Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to thirty five,
Speaker 1: Episode five of JO Days. Like guys, it's the finale,
Speaker 1: a production of I Heart Radio and a podcast where
Speaker 1: you take a deep dive into America's share consciousness. It
Speaker 1: is Friday, May six, two, which means it's National Nurse's Day,
Speaker 1: all right. Also, don't forget Mother's Day coming up to Yeah,
Speaker 1: if that is coming up two days. Yeah. If you
Speaker 1: are entire sense of a za guys comes from this show.
Speaker 1: Do not miss out just because we don't publish on Sunday. Yeah.
Speaker 1: If there are things are happening on the get the
Speaker 1: plans in motion, it's not too late. I do, I do. Okay,
Speaker 1: we're gonna do a picnic at the Lacmath and then
Speaker 1: we're gonna go inside the Lacmath and steal a fine
Speaker 1: work of art. Yeah. I'm just invited my mom over
Speaker 1: because she want to see my dog, and then we're
Speaker 1: gonna go out to eat. But she was like, I
Speaker 1: want to see the dog, and I was like, sure,
Speaker 1: I miss your dog. Let's come buy come through. That's
Speaker 1: probably the type of parent I'll be. I want to
Speaker 1: admit to my kids I missed them. I'll admit that
Speaker 1: I missed their their pet. Oh yeah, no, I mean
Speaker 1: my mom she misses me, but she I think she
Speaker 1: very firmly also misses this dog like I don't even
Speaker 1: know if that's covered. She's like, I want to see
Speaker 1: your dog. So well, your mom is a is a
Speaker 1: pet person, as we've covered. Yeah, did you see what
Speaker 1: I posted like we did. That's the whole family of
Speaker 1: poms coming in the house eating, and my mom was
Speaker 1: just chilling recording it. Like m She said again, I
Speaker 1: wish I could keep them as pets, but she said,
Speaker 1: their true nature is to be wild, so I do
Speaker 1: not want to limit their freedom. I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: based mom, you know, go off very similar to her
Speaker 1: parenting philosophy with you. You know, she like this, this
Speaker 1: young man's true nature is to be wild. Told um, well,
Speaker 1: my name is Jack O'Brien. A ka. If you could
Speaker 1: only see the day Lee's I geist, maybe you would
Speaker 1: understand why I talked this way and sounds so tired
Speaker 1: and drank a ton of dow. If you could only
Speaker 1: see the way that Miles can be when he says
Speaker 1: when he says t d easy when out w That
Speaker 1: is courtesy of Bohemian Rhapsody, who I had to reach
Speaker 1: out to in the d M s and be like, hey, what,
Speaker 1: what's what song is that? But once I heard it,
Speaker 1: I I remember the hell out of that song. It's
Speaker 1: if you can only see you hear me. And then
Speaker 1: there's that one part where he's like, shame, no my
Speaker 1: cheam o. Man. Know when Tonic Tonic their classic album
Speaker 1: Lemon Parade, that sounds like a website, you know that
Speaker 1: sounds like that sounds like they were like, oh you
Speaker 1: you thought a Lemon party was bad, Well you check
Speaker 1: out this ship. Yeah. So Andrew at Bohemian Rahapsody also
Speaker 1: let me know, just because I've I've talked about the
Speaker 1: fact that both the fact that at Bohemian Rapsody is
Speaker 1: a great rap city is a great user name. He
Speaker 1: let me know that he thought, up until last year,
Speaker 1: that's what the song was called. He thought it was
Speaker 1: called Bohemian City. Oh hell yeah, okay, I wish Yeah.
Speaker 1: It makes me love it even more so. Shout out
Speaker 1: to you, and I'm thrilled to be joined as always
Speaker 1: by my co host, Mr Miles Gray. It's just Miles Gray. Headeo.
Speaker 1: Noh wish I could it came with something a little
Speaker 1: bit wittier, but I was I was just blown away
Speaker 1: by that tonic a K. I really liked that song
Speaker 1: when it came out, I remember, but I was one
Speaker 1: of those songs. Never knew the name, never knew the artist,
Speaker 1: but I just knew and yeah, yeah, like it's the
Speaker 1: heartfelt yarling. Yeah, it really really does it. So you
Speaker 1: kind of you kind of that kind of sucked me
Speaker 1: up to be so it was also a love song
Speaker 1: to you that if people could only see the way
Speaker 1: that you can be when you say t D easy
Speaker 1: that it like just breaks my heart somewhere. I kind
Speaker 1: of liked it. It add an emotional arc that added
Speaker 1: new dimensions to our relationship. So and we need that
Speaker 1: to keep things fresh. That's right, Well, Miles, we are
Speaker 1: thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a writer, director, comedian,
Speaker 1: podcaster father who's written comedy, horror comics, and parenting books
Speaker 1: and who host the podcast What Are You Watching with
Speaker 1: Chris Mancini, which is an appropriate title because he is
Speaker 1: Chris Mancini. Hey, great to be here, guys, thanks for
Speaker 1: having me. Than I was thinking of that song and
Speaker 1: a gotta DaVita was like the first one that everyone
Speaker 1: got the name wrong, right right, yeah, Mike, and then
Speaker 1: realize what it doesn't matter, nobody cares enough to correct it.
Speaker 1: So that's just what we're gonna call it from now
Speaker 1: on because it's in the garden of eva Eden that
Speaker 1: it just came out and go, yeah, and I got one.
Speaker 1: Yeah that that also was another one I also thought
Speaker 1: was and I got a DaVita for a long time. Yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: I think I think if you look at the lyrics,
Speaker 1: that's how they have it listed. I might I might
Speaker 1: be wrong the one so like in other news of
Speaker 1: looking up the lyrics to be like this must mean
Speaker 1: something and I just had it wrong or like jumbled
Speaker 1: it into something that part where he's aren't saying oh bosh,
Speaker 1: you won't, it's saying you love but you don't, you
Speaker 1: give your love but you won't wish. That doesn't really
Speaker 1: make sense either, man, Like, if you're gonna put something
Speaker 1: that's like mumbled over, it should have it should repay
Speaker 1: people when they go try and figure out what the
Speaker 1: funk you were saying. Sometimes people just go for the
Speaker 1: rhyme yeah exactly, and won't and don't. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: that's rhyme Smith and Chris, what what's good? Where are
Speaker 1: you coming to us from. I'm coming from Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: and I don't know if for some reason I live
Speaker 1: in a neighborhood that there's always a tree being cut down,
Speaker 1: so you might hear a little bit of buzz sawing periodically. Yeah,
Speaker 1: shout out the arborists. Yeah, I was getting those checks.
Speaker 1: Shout out nurses. I do. I feel like I pushed
Speaker 1: past nurses a little bit, But nurses are truly the
Speaker 1: best and do some of the most thankless difficult work
Speaker 1: in the American work. For that, come on, at the pandemic,
Speaker 1: it's over. They're not heroes, my best. That's not let's
Speaker 1: not let's not sure for a National Nurses Day. They
Speaker 1: just went the day off, right. How about listen when
Speaker 1: we were begging people to stay safe in the pandemic
Speaker 1: so we didn't have to see untold horror in the
Speaker 1: yers for months on end. But yeah, shout out all
Speaker 1: the nurses. Shout all the nurses in my life. You
Speaker 1: know who you are. And arborists, who are the trees?
Speaker 1: I guess in many ways, I didn't realize how important
Speaker 1: tree maintenance was, so I moved somewhere windy, and like
Speaker 1: a dude was like, hey, man, you should really trim
Speaker 1: your tree. Like the wind is it's gonna be like
Speaker 1: it's gonna just suck your ship up. The city came
Speaker 1: by said it was a year and a half waiting
Speaker 1: list to get a tree trimmed, you know, so like
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna need to hire a private contractor
Speaker 1: to do it exactly, Like I don't know if I wait.
Speaker 1: L A has like super tall palm trees that like
Speaker 1: almost seemed like I I don't know. It's weird how
Speaker 1: tawsome of the palm trees are. But then like a
Speaker 1: chik of them will just fall off in the wind.
Speaker 1: We have tall trees and high winds. It's great. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what's because we have like there's a you know, all
Speaker 1: of our palm trees, a lot of them are dying
Speaker 1: because of like a fungus. Oh yeah yeah yeah that's why.
Speaker 1: I like, you see a lot they're just lopped off,
Speaker 1: like lopped off at the top and stuff like these
Speaker 1: like sick dying palm trees. Damn man, Yeah that's the
Speaker 1: whole thing. Shout out to Arborus night gang. This is
Speaker 1: this is your palm tree. Palm tree fungus is a hoax.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's what I did hear. That's a hoax.
Speaker 1: Is drink your own palm tree oil. Palm oil. You'll
Speaker 1: be good, all right, Chris, We're gonna get to know
Speaker 1: you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're
Speaker 1: gonna tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about.
Speaker 1: Alec Carrick and sanis added again letting us know about
Speaker 1: a public inquiry happening up in San Francisco that looks
Speaker 1: into how the media division of the San Francisco p
Speaker 1: D shape's public opinion, like just how that process works.
Speaker 1: It usually happens behind closed doors. So we'll talk about that.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about what humanitarian aid means, because that's where
Speaker 1: a lot of the US money, a lot of US
Speaker 1: taxpayer money is going to humanitarian aid. And we will
Speaker 1: define well, yeah, we'll try and define that. We will
Speaker 1: look at a study on that should make you encouraged
Speaker 1: about about the process of building community, talking to strangers,
Speaker 1: all that plenty more. But first, Chris, we do like
Speaker 1: to ask our guest, what is something from your search history.
Speaker 1: Here's a latest item from my search history where was
Speaker 1: the Enterprise during the Dominion War. M hm m hmm.
Speaker 1: I don't know what those words mean, but please tell
Speaker 1: me a big Star Trek fan. I don't know why
Speaker 1: I didn't get to this until later when they had
Speaker 1: Star Trek Deep Space nine. There was a big war,
Speaker 1: but the Enterprise was never mentioned from next generation, so
Speaker 1: I don't know. And uh, and you know what, I
Speaker 1: will say, this didn't get a didn't get a satisfying
Speaker 1: answer from the internet, so I was a little disappointed
Speaker 1: in all the nerds out there. Really the tonic lyrics
Speaker 1: of Star Trek Lord, So wait, is it in in
Speaker 1: the in the chronology of Star Trek DS nine and
Speaker 1: TN are happening at the same time where that like
Speaker 1: you're like, why didn't why didn't Pacard pull up? Like
Speaker 1: that's exactly exactly and what and the and the answer
Speaker 1: is like are just sort of like like the text
Speaker 1: equivalent of like shrugging super vague. It's like, you know
Speaker 1: where the Justice League is when something big happens, Like
Speaker 1: they're on assignment somewhere else. You know. It's r R. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not buying it. They would this is this is
Speaker 1: the a story. They would be here, right they're like, look,
Speaker 1: if you look back at that time, nobody was going
Speaker 1: to take the deal. We wanted to bring them back
Speaker 1: on the show, so like, I don't know where they were. Yeah,
Speaker 1: their agents were a bunch of pricks. Yeah, their agents
Speaker 1: were in a time loop somewhere, right, you know, and
Speaker 1: yet probably preferable when a fictional universe chooses to ignore
Speaker 1: like actual history, well I guess not actual, but like
Speaker 1: chooses to ignore those questions rather than like what the
Speaker 1: Eternals did where they were, Like, let's make it part
Speaker 1: of their story that they were there for the atomic
Speaker 1: bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, like, and then don't actually
Speaker 1: like deal with it in a way that's satisfactory. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a front row ticket? What's that? They had a front
Speaker 1: row seat for that? Yeah. Yeah, And they were just
Speaker 1: like duh man, all right, should we get out of here? Yeah?
Speaker 1: We were told not to interfere until now, until our
Speaker 1: moving and then well now right right? What is something
Speaker 1: you think is overrated? I am a big HBO fan
Speaker 1: on like a lot of the shows on there. I
Speaker 1: thought White Lotus was overrated on that show. That was
Speaker 1: the show about kind of like this resort, but it
Speaker 1: was all about like a lot of like white privileged stuff,
Speaker 1: and but it was one of those things where I
Speaker 1: get it. I don't think I need a whole season
Speaker 1: for this, and then random shock images of like a
Speaker 1: guy's junk then that would also come up. I think
Speaker 1: that's like HBO's thing to kind of de stigmatize male nudity,
Speaker 1: which I'm kind of against. I think we should still
Speaker 1: stigmatize male nudity so revolting, but are revolting genitals out
Speaker 1: of you? Just But yeah, it was because that was
Speaker 1: one of those things where the Internet a lot of
Speaker 1: my friends said, oh, you gotta love this show. It's great.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, yeah, I like satire or like humor,
Speaker 1: I like edgy stuff. And I was like, yeah, it
Speaker 1: just didn't didn't resonate for me, didn't connect mm hmm. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I I I really enjoyed it. I liked it. At
Speaker 1: the ending sort of left me wanting a little bit more.
Speaker 1: But the journey there, I had a at a very
Speaker 1: at a fun time. Yeah really think. Yeah, Jennifer Coolidge,
Speaker 1: did it? Did it like pick up? Like? Because I
Speaker 1: watched the first couple of episodes and I felt like
Speaker 1: it wasn't going anywhere like that, it doesn't pick up
Speaker 1: like half what episode did you stop watching? Probably about three?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean it's it. It starts picking up pace,
Speaker 1: like to the point where I remember every week, like
Speaker 1: everyone working on the show, we're like, okay, so what
Speaker 1: the fun? But I get you know, like it you know,
Speaker 1: not everything isn't for everybody. So if it didn't catch,
Speaker 1: you didn't catch the same way. I was like, there's
Speaker 1: a ton of shows that everyone's like, you gotta watch
Speaker 1: the show. Like I couldn't get past the first four
Speaker 1: episodes just for me personally, I mean, where was the
Speaker 1: enterprise during White Lotus? I mean that's what I kind
Speaker 1: of went I too, right, I also want to know
Speaker 1: the story. But behind some Natasha Rothwell is played one
Speaker 1: of the better characters on White Lotus, like a masseuse
Speaker 1: who is dealing with the bullshit of a very privileged
Speaker 1: Jennifer Coolidge and is yeah, she's just a great arcter.
Speaker 1: And then in Sonic Too, she gets married at what
Speaker 1: I think is the same resort as White Lotus, And
Speaker 1: I'm just wondering, like, did did the makers of Sonic
Speaker 1: Too like Sea White Lotus and they were like Okay,
Speaker 1: like that's we gotta do that, because it really is
Speaker 1: a very strange decision on their part to have visually
Speaker 1: to see Natasha Rothwell in that location. Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: like they just did they have a deal, like where
Speaker 1: are is it the same production company? And they had
Speaker 1: a deal with like you know, two for ones because
Speaker 1: it's uh yeah, like when you're watching the movie, you're like,
Speaker 1: why why is so much of this movie Sonic to
Speaker 1: a wedding? They're setting up the White Lotus Sonic Cinematic Universe. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: when that new season A White Lotus is coming out,
Speaker 1: so maybe we can expect to see Robotanic Now I'm
Speaker 1: getting on board. Now yeah, now I'm going to give
Speaker 1: it a chance. You had to be patient, man, you
Speaker 1: had to be patient. What Sonics roll in all of this?
Speaker 1: Where does tails come in? And like is Sonic like
Speaker 1: in it? Like is the next one? Sonics just like
Speaker 1: plays like a like a boomer or like gen X
Speaker 1: type character. He's like out of touch and like, oh,
Speaker 1: like what's going on? Learned a lesson from Knuckles? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: exact knuckles. Knuckles is uh not Knuckles is around in
Speaker 1: Sonic too, and I don't know I don't think they
Speaker 1: did Knuckles justice with this depiction. I'll just leave it there.
Speaker 1: I don't want to get too controversial, That's what. That's
Speaker 1: all I'm gonna say. What did they at least keep
Speaker 1: him as in a kidnap? Yeah, I think they did
Speaker 1: as best I could tell. We showed up late, but
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure Jack, you weren't watching Sonic that head.
Speaker 1: That was a lot of weird stuff. And yeah, the
Speaker 1: sex scene on the wedding night was just, I don't know,
Speaker 1: unexpectedly graphic. What something you think is underrated? Two things actually,
Speaker 1: one of it was the Expanse. I really love that show.
Speaker 1: And that was a show that I kind of got
Speaker 1: to a little later, like a hard science fiction. It
Speaker 1: was on the Sci Fi Channel, then Amazon picked it up,
Speaker 1: and it was kind of like a good way to
Speaker 1: kind of like look at, like, well, where can science
Speaker 1: fiction go from now? Like we have Star Trek, we
Speaker 1: have all these other shows. But I what I liked
Speaker 1: about it is it kind of showed like what would
Speaker 1: near future spaceships really look like, and how would they work?
Speaker 1: And would they have gravity? And why would the sound
Speaker 1: designer have to put in the sound of every single
Speaker 1: boot clacking because it was magnetic onto every ship. So
Speaker 1: I thought it was it was a good show. So
Speaker 1: did you guys see the expanse? But this is a
Speaker 1: take we hear a lot so many people like it
Speaker 1: was it's like the most slept on sci fi show.
Speaker 1: That's like the best show that I've ever seen. Is
Speaker 1: something I've heard pretty for sure. Yeah, it's really well
Speaker 1: thought out. And one of the problems with it is
Speaker 1: like you could tell it was like Sci Fi Channel budget,
Speaker 1: so the effects not everything is up to par with
Speaker 1: you know, recent shows. But you could kind of overlook
Speaker 1: those flaws because the storytelling is uh and just the
Speaker 1: world building is really good. The enemy spaceships are actually
Speaker 1: like PI tens on strength, like Plan nine stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and the other thing I think is really underrated is science.
Speaker 1: I think I think people should be more into it.
Speaker 1: It's really helpful. It should get a lot more credit
Speaker 1: just science in general. Where do you see where do
Speaker 1: you see people not people undervaluing it too much everywhere.
Speaker 1: So for the most part, everything from you know, obviously
Speaker 1: medical science and things about infectious diseases, but also like
Speaker 1: I really feel like there's a lot more technology and
Speaker 1: development we can be doing everything from like entered too,
Speaker 1: you know, more efficient travel to all of these things.
Speaker 1: And I think that there's a lot less credit that's
Speaker 1: being given to like and these innovations that should should
Speaker 1: be happening a lot quicker that should be being subsidized
Speaker 1: to make everyone's journey a little bit easier. Mm hmmah.
Speaker 1: I have a six year old and a four year
Speaker 1: old Chris and the like there. I've like been reintroduced
Speaker 1: to how cool science is, just like through the things
Speaker 1: that they're interested in, like seeing them encounter like see
Speaker 1: life for the first time and a man like what
Speaker 1: Amanda shrimp can do, and uh, you know, just watching
Speaker 1: like underwater documentaries that was also like I was obsessed
Speaker 1: with Jaws because it was a shark that eight people
Speaker 1: and I was a weird kid, but like like that,
Speaker 1: you know, sharks were one of the first things I
Speaker 1: was obsessed with. I think a lot of people like
Speaker 1: hit the world just amazed and like super interested in
Speaker 1: science and then we like have a ground out of us,
Speaker 1: I guess, but just the on rush of like other
Speaker 1: more practical things or even like yeah, like you're saying
Speaker 1: your kids like like big trucks and like machinery and
Speaker 1: trucks stuff. Yeah, and you're like, dad, how is it
Speaker 1: able to lift that? You're like, I can't explain noumatic
Speaker 1: pistons and I don't know, man, it's a machine. But
Speaker 1: I get that, like, yeah, are as kids that we
Speaker 1: want we have so many questions and like yeah, when
Speaker 1: it brushes up against you know, like science. As a kid,
Speaker 1: I remember going like this science museum for kids and
Speaker 1: that was like my favorite place to go because it
Speaker 1: was like a physical space where I saw like cause
Speaker 1: and effect or began to understood how things like worked.
Speaker 1: You have that curiosity as a kid, and you know,
Speaker 1: I think as adults, if we could recapture some of that,
Speaker 1: especially in the you know, scientific fields, and even just
Speaker 1: to support those those endeavors. It's you know, the the
Speaker 1: scientists of today or the teachers of tomorrow and these
Speaker 1: kids coming up that are curious, you know, they could
Speaker 1: you know, make these innovations and make things better, but
Speaker 1: you know it has to be encouraged. I feel like,
Speaker 1: you know, science has gotten demonized lately with like well no,
Speaker 1: that's that's junk, and just listen to us, not not
Speaker 1: the scientists, Like m that's a bad road to go down, right.
Speaker 1: It's it's well too, because I think so many of
Speaker 1: like as you become an adult, we're just less wowed
Speaker 1: by the things that technology or science and research has
Speaker 1: afforded us. And we're like, oh, yeah cool, Like now
Speaker 1: my phone knows where I'm at right, and like, yeah cool,
Speaker 1: Now my camera is like even smaller than this pinhole,
Speaker 1: and you're like, yeah, Without like NASA investment, we don't
Speaker 1: get half of those things. So that's like a little
Speaker 1: bit of consumer trickle down from you know, investing in science.
Speaker 1: I mean even like military spending. It's it's you don't
Speaker 1: even realize that like some of the stuff, like literally
Speaker 1: like stereo came from like you know, military development. Like
Speaker 1: like there's a lot of innovations that trickled down from
Speaker 1: the most least expected places, but then we use them
Speaker 1: as consumers. Imagine what we could accomplish if like all
Speaker 1: those billions of billions of dollars we're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: the budget that like is allocated to military spending, but
Speaker 1: imagine if like instead of like just happening to glance
Speaker 1: against like stereo by accident like that, we were just like, hey,
Speaker 1: what if we spend all this money and tried to
Speaker 1: like make cool ship instead of just like the most
Speaker 1: efficient way to kill a city full of people. Notice,
Speaker 1: we came up with stereo because we wanted to be
Speaker 1: able to hear the explosions around town, right, Yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess we could maybe have a different mission, which
Speaker 1: would be like, how do we you know, how do
Speaker 1: we really conserve water in the most efficient way and
Speaker 1: be able to desalinate it, de salonize it and maybe
Speaker 1: get it other places? I don't know, Or we can Hey,
Speaker 1: this drone I made can blow up a fucking warship. Though. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're we're headed towards either Warhammer for d K or
Speaker 1: Horizon zero don one of those. We're we're going in
Speaker 1: that direction, Jack, I know the big gamer. You knew
Speaker 1: exactly where we were at with that one. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: just I'm keeping my mouth shut because I disagree. I
Speaker 1: think we're headed to a different specific video game reference
Speaker 1: that I'm not gonna make right now because I don't
Speaker 1: start the whole thing. And you wanted to, Yeah, you
Speaker 1: don't want to. You want to help hold back your
Speaker 1: alloy hot takes exactly exactly, But yeah, great underrated totally agree. Also,
Speaker 1: like the desalination plants on aircraft carriers are like crazy.
Speaker 1: It's it's funny that that's well, I just read about
Speaker 1: that because my kids are obsessed with, like, you know,
Speaker 1: aircraft carriers and ship It's like they produce like cities
Speaker 1: worth of water out of seawater just out there every day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I gotta keep those floating. Yeah, but I don't
Speaker 1: know if the real news around the Navy is like
Speaker 1: there there's real problems happening on a lot of these
Speaker 1: ships at the moment. Checking in with your defense news
Speaker 1: at the moment. Yeah, alright, let's take a quick break.
Speaker 1: We'll be right and we're back. And another thread from
Speaker 1: Alec Carrick at SANTIS that I found instructive and providing
Speaker 1: information that I think is criminally like under reported. So
Speaker 1: there's an inquiry happening in San Francisco into how the
Speaker 1: media divisions of these police forces operate. They found out
Speaker 1: the director of this propaganda unit costs two and eighty
Speaker 1: nine thousand dollars of taxpayer dollars a year. That's what
Speaker 1: they're making. That's what they's for one person. That's right.
Speaker 1: They have a full time videographer who costs taxpayers a
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty thousand dollars, and cops have been using
Speaker 1: videographers to try to combat like the bad press that
Speaker 1: comes from people just holding up cameras and showing what
Speaker 1: they actually do in to their communities. Like they they're like, well,
Speaker 1: what if instead of those videos, you were watching this video?
Speaker 1: For instance, Alec linked off to this l A. Sheriff's
Speaker 1: Department video that I don't know, Miles, did you were
Speaker 1: you able to watch this shot? Watching together? Let's let's
Speaker 1: let's experience this. Uh, there's no words, so we'll just
Speaker 1: kind of describe what's happening. There's no words. But also, uh,
Speaker 1: I think Chris will really enjoy this as someone who
Speaker 1: likes sci fi. Yeah, and presumably the l A. Sheriff's
Speaker 1: Department you got, you must love that. It says a
Speaker 1: short time ago and a hanger not so far away. Okay,
Speaker 1: we see a police fucking chopper and into frame and
Speaker 1: police helicopter and then uh like cross wipe Lucas style
Speaker 1: to the helicopter taking off, wishing everyone a happy star
Speaker 1: 's Day and may the Fourth be with you, May
Speaker 1: the Fourth be with you unless County triffs unless you're
Speaker 1: loitering on a Caruso owned shopping property, in which case
Speaker 1: we will bludgend you until you leave. Now, is this
Speaker 1: separate from what you guys like from like helmet cams
Speaker 1: and body cams? Yeah, like no, yeah, Like they have
Speaker 1: a they have like a position where it's like, where's
Speaker 1: our video guy to like shoot our videos because like yes, yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a It is a propaganda wing. That's like effectively
Speaker 1: what it is. And they spend a lot of money
Speaker 1: like both reaching out to the media. I I don't
Speaker 1: know what that creating videos like that where I'm not
Speaker 1: sure what the implication was. I know bb A like
Speaker 1: shot electricity at various things and sometimes like fixed them
Speaker 1: maybe in the sequels, But how it relates to the
Speaker 1: police and their choppers that use way too much fuel? Yeah, anyways,
Speaker 1: the this is the like sheriff's apartment that's riddled with
Speaker 1: the history of you know, white supremacist gangs, extra judicial murder.
Speaker 1: I didn't know all the details of the um, Like
Speaker 1: I knew that they had leaked the photos of Kobe
Speaker 1: and his daughter's dead bodies and then that Vanessa Bryant
Speaker 1: was suing them I did not know that they had
Speaker 1: subpoenaed her like therapy records and got them released to
Speaker 1: the court, which is like fucking terrifying just for anyone
Speaker 1: in therapy. The idea that the police can be like, well,
Speaker 1: we need to show evidence that you were fucked up,
Speaker 1: so we're gonna like do this to discredit you. Like
Speaker 1: that's like mad Men. That's that that's like some ship
Speaker 1: from mad Men, because they're like patient doctor confidentiality, like
Speaker 1: nah na not wanna sell a sheriff's department and yeah,
Speaker 1: so in that video. But by creative, by having this division,
Speaker 1: they are able to pump out videos where they're the
Speaker 1: good guys. I thought the most important revelation is that
Speaker 1: this unit and San Francisco and presumably many other units
Speaker 1: like San Francisco, is not the most well funded propaganda operation.
Speaker 1: They're just the one that got taken to a community
Speaker 1: hearing where this stuff was revealed. But they have what
Speaker 1: when like the police murder someone, a sergeant has ordered
Speaker 1: all members of the media relations team their propaganda unit
Speaker 1: should closely monitor social media for post video, etcetera related
Speaker 1: to the killing, and so like there going to go
Speaker 1: after people who post videos try and get videos taken down.
Speaker 1: And also just you know they have they're fighting it.
Speaker 1: Like at the very beginning of any sort of public outcry,
Speaker 1: you have a covert propaganda unit that is out there
Speaker 1: trying to sway public opinion or get people to ignore ship.
Speaker 1: But not to be clear, BB it won't be in
Speaker 1: every video that like, that's that's why you gotta follow
Speaker 1: the Sheriff's Twitter account, fan you might get more BB
Speaker 1: eight clips. They got eighty likes on that one, So
Speaker 1: I mean that video, I mean, granted it's not the
Speaker 1: San Francisco p D, so clearly their budgets must be
Speaker 1: lower for their videographer, but like that had big. My
Speaker 1: uncle just got an iPhone. They got that one droid
Speaker 1: with the legs at the bottom, and then that's it.
Speaker 1: That's yeah exactly. And like because when you show me
Speaker 1: that video, I'm like, wait, I have the app that
Speaker 1: makes those video clips. Like it's called like movie Action
Speaker 1: Movie Cam or something, and it just Overlaysy's like just
Speaker 1: you know, ridiculous little graphics things over whatever video you shoot.
Speaker 1: But the fact that then, like the Sheriff's Department is like,
Speaker 1: then that's how we're gonna curry favor and create common
Speaker 1: ground with the people we oppressed. So when you post
Speaker 1: footage or an opinion about the police murdering someone in
Speaker 1: your community, you are taking on a propaganda that is
Speaker 1: well funded and that has shown that they will go
Speaker 1: after the therapy records of right the grieving widow of
Speaker 1: a national hero and local god like that and got
Speaker 1: away with it. So don't it's it's never. It's never.
Speaker 1: The issue is what happened that's bad? We need to
Speaker 1: sort that out. It's always who the funk told you that?
Speaker 1: How did you hear that? How do you how do
Speaker 1: you find to approach to issues? Same thing with Villanueva,
Speaker 1: and like, you know, John Oliver even touched on it
Speaker 1: on his show last week with of just how this
Speaker 1: guy there was a clip of this person who is
Speaker 1: being detained was getting knelt on, and he like Villaneueva.
Speaker 1: His response was, well, I think there's a conspiracy. How
Speaker 1: did that thing get leaked? I had never and also
Speaker 1: I had never seen oh yeah, yeah. He was like,
Speaker 1: you put up a poster board of like a couple
Speaker 1: of people, including like an l a Times reporter who
Speaker 1: he was like, He's like, and this is like this
Speaker 1: could be the network of deception that allowed this clip
Speaker 1: of what happened to emerge. That's the Yeah, so it's
Speaker 1: always the who the funk told you that? Whenever that
Speaker 1: and then he didn't come out and say that there
Speaker 1: were not going to be any charges filed against that reporter, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: but like still because again you're like this this doesn't
Speaker 1: look good. Yeah, times they have an entire barrel full
Speaker 1: of lawyers just ready and waiting to go. So that's
Speaker 1: there's certain places you don't want to mess with, right,
Speaker 1: And also like they can't mess up their relationship that
Speaker 1: times and the L a p D usually playing nice
Speaker 1: together like carry water for them. Like I feel like
Speaker 1: at some point I was like, Okay, I can't burn
Speaker 1: the spot because yeah, we need you guys to say
Speaker 1: that people were attacked when they were protesting being over
Speaker 1: relationships dress testing, right, right, all right, let's talk humanitarian
Speaker 1: aid to Ukraine, which you know, we we came up
Speaker 1: recently because we were mentioning how Biden gave his statement
Speaker 1: about how how teed off he was about the row
Speaker 1: being overturned while walking into a Lockheed Martin factory to
Speaker 1: check out the aiding Ukraine. But but yeah, let's talk
Speaker 1: about it. I mean, well, yes, his way into Lockheed,
Speaker 1: a Lockheed facility where it's like literal javelin anti tank
Speaker 1: communitions are being made. That are you know that are
Speaker 1: being used in Ukraine. Is that you gotta vote. And
Speaker 1: also the reminder that when I say that, I mean
Speaker 1: American people should only be engaged one day of the
Speaker 1: year and then don't look at what we're doing until
Speaker 1: election day and then we'll dress some stuff up and
Speaker 1: then that will motivate you and then please unplug. So
Speaker 1: as he goes in there, you know, we got that
Speaker 1: whole thing about you know, you gotta vote, and just
Speaker 1: the absurdity of it was I it really struck me
Speaker 1: of him walking into this Lockheed facility while you know,
Speaker 1: America is in the middle of such a crisis of
Speaker 1: curtailing rights or just you know, legalizing all kinds all
Speaker 1: forms of discrimination. So you know, a lot of the
Speaker 1: news has swirled around like the amount of aid the
Speaker 1: US is sending the Ukraine and whether or not the
Speaker 1: US is like seizing on this to fight like a
Speaker 1: full blown proxy war with Russia, which most people like.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of that's a lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of weapons going that way. And the way the Pentagons
Speaker 1: talking is like and Russia could be you know, you know,
Speaker 1: taken down forever as a result of this war. Um,
Speaker 1: so we're seeing a lot, a lot, a lot of
Speaker 1: of defensive weapons going that way. And I understand it's
Speaker 1: vitally important that Ukrainians are able to protect themselves from
Speaker 1: a Russian invasion, and most people are of that belief
Speaker 1: on this around Fox News or on some other ship.
Speaker 1: Where things get a little weird is when you look
Speaker 1: at the amounts of money being spent. Because Biden just me,
Speaker 1: I just want to put it in perspective. I'm not
Speaker 1: here to say like you shouldn't, like you can't be
Speaker 1: helping these people, but just to understand how money moves around,
Speaker 1: in the amounts in which they're moving, in the amounts
Speaker 1: of which we've see very little for things that actually help,
Speaker 1: you know, the people that live here. He made a
Speaker 1: request for thirty three billion dollars. The US has already
Speaker 1: sent fourteen billion, which is exponentially more than they sent
Speaker 1: since the annexation of Crime and Crime. So if Congress okay,
Speaker 1: is this thirty three billion, the total will come to
Speaker 1: forty seven billion, and it would Ukraine within like within
Speaker 1: just a couple months, would become one of the largest
Speaker 1: recipients of aid since nineteen forty six, second only to Israel, Iraq, Egypt,
Speaker 1: and Afghanistan. Like they're like they're gonna they'll jump to
Speaker 1: the charts real quick, think together, is it all mixed together?
Speaker 1: Like this is a this concludes humanitarian military weapons kind
Speaker 1: of broken up. I mean, if you actually look at
Speaker 1: the bills like as they're you know, being proposed, you
Speaker 1: can tell how they're being broken down. And that first
Speaker 1: fourteen billion only about like they think less than four
Speaker 1: billion was actually for weapons. Most of it was for
Speaker 1: like food and other things to help people get resettled
Speaker 1: in any like refugee assistance that's needed. In this thirty
Speaker 1: three billion twenty billion is going to weapons now. And
Speaker 1: this is all happening. When we talk about this all
Speaker 1: the time. You see child poverty, homelessness, restrictions on body autonomy,
Speaker 1: there's all the terrible levels. But very quickly we're saying like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we need we need twenty billion for the military industrial complex.
Speaker 1: And I just want to underline underline this relationship that
Speaker 1: we have with military spending because due to the invasion
Speaker 1: of Ukraine, defense companies have been like pissing themselves silly
Speaker 1: with glee over the amounts of money that's being spent.
Speaker 1: The head of RAI Theon was putting like this whole
Speaker 1: situation like this on like a call, right. So, initially,
Speaker 1: while first quarter defense earnings actually declined due to basically
Speaker 1: cause weapons makers are like, we're not dealing with Russia anymore.
Speaker 1: They're like, fuck, that was a huge client. They said
Speaker 1: those profits are going to rebound thanks to Biden's massive investment.
Speaker 1: On an earnings call last week, Raytheon CEO Greg Hayes
Speaker 1: said defense spending, which was already set to increase before
Speaker 1: the Russian invasion, is on a better trajectory. Quote better
Speaker 1: than we what we had expected. And this is how
Speaker 1: it's talked on an earnings call, right, Oh, it's better
Speaker 1: than we expected, folks. These things that just destroy human life.
Speaker 1: It's the money is coming through though. And there's another
Speaker 1: article from Yahoo that talks about military spending and the
Speaker 1: way it sounds, you would think it was written by
Speaker 1: an algorithm that knows nothing of human suffering and has
Speaker 1: just like an always on boner for defense spending goes
Speaker 1: like this. As one of the global superpowers, the US
Speaker 1: often gets involved in wars around the rest of the world. Today,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that's just the wildest first sentence. Towards the
Speaker 1: end of last year, the US government approved one of
Speaker 1: the largest defense spending bills in history, had a value
Speaker 1: of seven seventy seven point seven billion dollars. This gives
Speaker 1: a direct advantage to the contractors who land more work
Speaker 1: as part of these massive defense spending bills. With its
Speaker 1: presence in every U S state, lockeed Martin will undoubtedly
Speaker 1: land a lot of government contracts as per usual. The
Speaker 1: share price of the company has searched eighteen percent since
Speaker 1: the Russian invasion of Ukraine, as this conflict is likely
Speaker 1: to result in many governments boosting their defense bills. Defense
Speaker 1: equipment manufactured by Lockheed is already seen increasing demand as
Speaker 1: the US and its allies are purchasing this equipment to
Speaker 1: send a Ukraine. For the next fiscal year, the Biden
Speaker 1: administration has proposed an eight billion dollar defense budget, which
Speaker 1: is even higher than the amount allocated for this year.
Speaker 1: Probably got COVID aid too, like before all this happened,
Speaker 1: so probably got picked twice. This is like soon the
Speaker 1: wild part, right is throughout all this, we're also seeing
Speaker 1: that defense companies they're actually spending less on lobbying this
Speaker 1: year because they know the fear of the war spilling
Speaker 1: over in other parts of Europe. They don't need the
Speaker 1: lobby like they really you can just tell by the
Speaker 1: lobbying money that's spent. It's a comp it's so fucking different,
Speaker 1: like mill millions less than this time last year, right,
Speaker 1: because there's there's the encounters going, well, do we need
Speaker 1: to spend it here? Probably not? And when when when
Speaker 1: you look at how that let money like that the
Speaker 1: influence works, right, they've spent right over two and a
Speaker 1: half billion dollars since like you know, two thousand basically,
Speaker 1: or I would say roughly probably around like we'll call
Speaker 1: it nine eleven because that's really when ship took off.
Speaker 1: And when you look at what comes back, that two
Speaker 1: point six billion ended up in fourteen trillion or like
Speaker 1: that from there, like half of that, like for the
Speaker 1: fourteen trillion that was allocated the d D during that time,
Speaker 1: about half of that went to those defense contractors. So
Speaker 1: their return on investment, like for Lockheed in the day
Speaker 1: five thousand, eight hundred eight dollars they got from D
Speaker 1: O D contracts. That's like their return was for every
Speaker 1: dollar spent they got fifty eight hundred dollars in contracts back. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's pretty good. That's like crypto returns. So yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: that's some can total ship if I've ever seen it.
Speaker 1: But that's this is how you know, they see the conflicts.
Speaker 1: They said, this is who we need to spend with.
Speaker 1: We know who to talk to, and we can continue
Speaker 1: to spend this money. And this is all while we're
Speaker 1: looking at things like people's fucking health insurance not being
Speaker 1: you know, we have no we have no stable public
Speaker 1: health insurance. We have nothing to offer people in terms
Speaker 1: of childcare or anything. But just let that sit of
Speaker 1: how easily we can always just lop off billions of
Speaker 1: dollars for defense spending and people have to literally pull
Speaker 1: up to the capital, like hooked up to medical machines
Speaker 1: to try and show politicians that these are human beings
Speaker 1: that could benefit from, you know, more progressive policy. And
Speaker 1: lobbying has become different to like if it used to
Speaker 1: be like, you know, one company had a lobbyist, they
Speaker 1: would go and try to lobby the you know, the
Speaker 1: congressman of the senators or you know, just the government
Speaker 1: in general. Now there's like lobbying companies that just kind
Speaker 1: of have an umbrella like I represent these defense contractors
Speaker 1: and whatever. So basically the lobbying is kind of pulled
Speaker 1: together for the industries as a whole, so it becomes
Speaker 1: even less personal. I guess you would say, because it's all, well,
Speaker 1: money needs to flow into this industry, we're not We're
Speaker 1: less concerned with which company anymore. Yeah, And I think
Speaker 1: at that point the politicians know which companies because you
Speaker 1: know that because that's like you know, like the trades
Speaker 1: go around. It's like, oh, which firm has that contract? Okay,
Speaker 1: Now I know when I get a knock on my
Speaker 1: door from that that means bowing or whoever. And it's
Speaker 1: just dorks like everything else that we spend what we
Speaker 1: put the rest of our money towards, like as a
Speaker 1: as a country, as a people, like it's it's just
Speaker 1: a like print money button for the US economy that
Speaker 1: they realize the public doesn't really blame them for or
Speaker 1: judge if they if they decide to like put make
Speaker 1: the defense budget, like they're still testing like to be like,
Speaker 1: how high can we fucking make this thing before somebody
Speaker 1: push us back? Like at this point the numbers just
Speaker 1: seem imaginary to people, and everyone wants to feel safe.
Speaker 1: And you get to call it a defense budget um
Speaker 1: and defense wins championships, as you know. So we just
Speaker 1: put put it in the tease, put it in the trillions, baby,
Speaker 1: and it's I mean, like, for example, right to bring
Speaker 1: the almost six million families that live in poverty in
Speaker 1: the United States, like to like the kind of injection
Speaker 1: of income they would need cost around forty six billion
Speaker 1: dollars in a year to lift those families out of poverty.
Speaker 1: And also like the hundred like maybe two hundred thousand
Speaker 1: or so children that aren't with their families, that spending
Speaker 1: would lift those people out of poverty. Like if you
Speaker 1: began to even invest on that level, if you just
Speaker 1: did a raw thing of like just give these people
Speaker 1: cash and they'll be out of poverty. That price tags
Speaker 1: around forties seven million, forty seven bill in dollars, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, Elon Musk if he would have paid the
Speaker 1: um U n the the food bank, like that would
Speaker 1: have actually helped to get a lot of people fed
Speaker 1: because they said here's how we're going to spend your
Speaker 1: five or six billion or whatever, and then okay, great,
Speaker 1: and then he never he never gave them money. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's you know, so I think the other issue
Speaker 1: is if you're not really engaged and you just get
Speaker 1: your news from like the local news or CNN or whatever,
Speaker 1: no one's got them. What are they gonna say Military
Speaker 1: industrial complex on that channel? Yeah, because you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, those are like it's like fucking it's like Voldemort, Like,
Speaker 1: don't fucking bring it up, Like that's not what we
Speaker 1: do here, and that's like too real. Just be like wow,
Speaker 1: with increased budgets and I get that, Like it feels
Speaker 1: good to know that there are people in need that
Speaker 1: need assistance and we're providing that. And I think that's
Speaker 1: the cover they used to then be like Okay, now
Speaker 1: let's fucking let's hook up Raytheon, let's hook up block
Speaker 1: need and and we get it too, because those companies
Speaker 1: the same. You know, we talked a bit about revolving doors.
Speaker 1: You end up leaving Raytheon, you might get in the
Speaker 1: Pentagon and insert yourself there into a better decision making position,
Speaker 1: bring more contracts, to Raytheon You leave the Pentagon, your
Speaker 1: back up Larrython, Like, it's just it's that absurdity, and
Speaker 1: whenever it's talked about, I feel like you see it
Speaker 1: like in a very quick segment like on like a
Speaker 1: more fringe host show on a news network, and then
Speaker 1: it's just kind of like glossed over rather than like
Speaker 1: putting in front of people the absurdity of how we
Speaker 1: have completely de emphasized helping people. It's good, Like it's
Speaker 1: it's very clear, like it couldn't be more uh, in
Speaker 1: your face than when you look at things like I
Speaker 1: think it even goes beyond that sometimes where we've de
Speaker 1: emphasized the people like you know, they're like less worthy
Speaker 1: of help, and that's that's really tragic when you look
Speaker 1: at like, well, you know these people, a lot of
Speaker 1: people need help, but yeah, but there's other things, we
Speaker 1: have other priorities, and like, well, no, there's still people
Speaker 1: they need help. And I think that's you know, even worse, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's also they they break it down into little
Speaker 1: chunks in terms of the numbers, and you know, the
Speaker 1: Green New Deal they total up to that's nine trillion
Speaker 1: over the course of a hundred years and like don't
Speaker 1: give any of the cost savings that would happen by
Speaker 1: not destroying the planet Earth. But on this they're like,
Speaker 1: all right, so what all we're asking for is thirty
Speaker 1: three billion in age this month, like it's goes to
Speaker 1: kids and stuff and help out, and then another thirty
Speaker 1: I don't I mean, honestly, I don't know how much
Speaker 1: Raytheon is overcharging for some of this ship man, but
Speaker 1: uh oh yeah, we'll get them the javelins. There aren't
Speaker 1: enough people in the world, like we we we have
Speaker 1: talked about this before in regards to like how immorally wealthy,
Speaker 1: like a billionaire to be Like the fact that you know,
Speaker 1: a billion seconds is like hundreds of years, well a
Speaker 1: million or yeah whatever whatever is. Billion is a huge number.
Speaker 1: And when you're talking about like these numbers, like that
Speaker 1: ship just like goes missing, Like billions of dollars just
Speaker 1: go missing. Like people can fucking steal billions of dollars easily,
Speaker 1: Like it doesn't. You could build wind farms all over
Speaker 1: the planet that, yeah, over to create a renewable energy. Yeah. Actually,
Speaker 1: like somebody, somebody who works on the Pentagon should just
Speaker 1: be like miss misallocating funds to wind farms to the
Speaker 1: construction of wind farms, Like that might be the only
Speaker 1: way we can do it. We could create a missile
Speaker 1: that when it lands it um converts into a wind
Speaker 1: turn by. I could shoot them at the countries and
Speaker 1: then harvest the energy. Right, they're like forced renewable. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: carpet bomb you with solar panels. Yeah, yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: because there was that tweet that what kind of went
Speaker 1: viral when Ellen was you know, was buying Twitter where
Speaker 1: they're giving you a perspective of how much money forty
Speaker 1: four billion was, and there is that tweet that was
Speaker 1: basically saying like, if you made a two hundred thousand
Speaker 1: dollars every single day since you know, whatever date we
Speaker 1: say Columbus came to the New World in four two,
Speaker 1: if you spent if you made two hundred thousand dollars
Speaker 1: every day since that day, you still wouldn't have forty
Speaker 1: four billion dollars. You'd have thirty nine. Right. Think about that.
Speaker 1: You could be a fucking baller vamp baller as vampire
Speaker 1: making two hundred racks a day. And then you're like,
Speaker 1: fuck man, I'm still since grind and I can't even
Speaker 1: match these fucking people. Yeah, well maybe maybe that's what
Speaker 1: Elon Musk is. I mean, is there any there might
Speaker 1: be some pictures of him from the nineteen thirties that
Speaker 1: haven't come out yet. Yeah maybe who who knows? But yeah,
Speaker 1: it it really is. It's just these are staggering amounts
Speaker 1: of money, and uh god, I feel like, you know,
Speaker 1: a responsible like newspaper would always put a note to
Speaker 1: like what, however billion dollars are being spent on like
Speaker 1: killing machines or police nonsense? How that how that translates
Speaker 1: to good for the regular person. I mean, there's plenty
Speaker 1: of sites where you can aggregate and find this information,
Speaker 1: but like, it's like, I feel like that's the only
Speaker 1: way you could slowly erode at that where someone could say,
Speaker 1: look at thirty three billion and be like, not thirty
Speaker 1: three billion, like gets all the water pipes working here,
Speaker 1: that changes our our energy mix, that does this, it
Speaker 1: does that. But that's what it is. And I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm still kind of thinking about a T shirt that
Speaker 1: says Vampire Baller on it, So I think that would
Speaker 1: be kind of cool if you guys may yeah, thank
Speaker 1: you right in the cut. But also just very very
Speaker 1: sour though that he still still doesn't even have like,
Speaker 1: you know, proper billionaire. He didn't quite make it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's like, I tried to do it ethically, man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I could only buy my space. Right. By the way,
Speaker 1: four billion seconds is one three hundred and sixty four years.
Speaker 1: So that's frightening. If you start, start your time or
Speaker 1: now and you'll get there. Thank god, they're banning math books.
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear about any of this. So yeah,
Speaker 1: how long they calculators? Yeah, all right, let's take a
Speaker 1: quick break and we'll be right back. And we're back.
Speaker 1: And we have been talking about in recent days the
Speaker 1: need for a community, the fact that we are bad
Speaker 1: at it in modern America, the fact that there's a
Speaker 1: loneliness epidemic caused by you know, various things, but at
Speaker 1: least partially social media and just being isolated from one another,
Speaker 1: and the pandemic obviously didn't help. And for me personally,
Speaker 1: when I'm away from people, that is when I am
Speaker 1: most in fear of being around people. Like so if
Speaker 1: I'm if I haven't seen somebody in a year, I'm like,
Speaker 1: do I really want to see this person again? And
Speaker 1: like those are the people I love, Like those people
Speaker 1: are like my best friends and ship and I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh man, it's gonna be so awkward. We're gonna run
Speaker 1: out of things to say to each other. What am
Speaker 1: I supposed to say? Like hey Dad? And it's like
Speaker 1: what you're dead man? Like let's it? But yeah, like
Speaker 1: that's so. I think you know that there is at
Speaker 1: least personally for me. And I feel like other people
Speaker 1: might feel this way, like some aversion a version and
Speaker 1: like a hardening and sort of a a momentum that
Speaker 1: like loneliness and isolating can kind of pick up momentum
Speaker 1: a little bit. And there's a new study that strikes
Speaker 1: me as like true and it yeah, I think I
Speaker 1: like this. Well, I think what' just like we're saying right, like,
Speaker 1: it's clear that one of the more potent forces for
Speaker 1: good is when people work together collectively and look out
Speaker 1: for each other. Uh that then that in times like this,
Speaker 1: it's even more important right to to look at somebody
Speaker 1: in your community and get to know them, to to
Speaker 1: to try and like again, build the community. And like
Speaker 1: you're saying, I'm the same way. The idea of speaking
Speaker 1: to a stranger in my mind is like, like, who's
Speaker 1: this fucking person. They're gonna be a piece of ship.
Speaker 1: I don't know, they probably don't like anything. I fucking like.
Speaker 1: I don't want to just say some ship to be friendly.
Speaker 1: Fuck that, like suddenly just become this curmudgeon because I
Speaker 1: have this sort of anticipation of how I think this
Speaker 1: interaction with a person I have never met, because somehow,
Speaker 1: in this version, I'm a fortune teller. I know exactly
Speaker 1: what the outcome is. And in this study that came out,
Speaker 1: they were really testing this of like what is the
Speaker 1: effect of having a conversation with a stranger is it?
Speaker 1: Is it so bad? Or is it actually enriching? And
Speaker 1: the study found that people, you know, as they wrote
Speaker 1: down what their expectations were and then what they actually
Speaker 1: recorded results were after speaking, people were incorrectly believed that
Speaker 1: their quote conversations would become more and more dull and
Speaker 1: awkward over time. Instead, conversations lasting up to half an
Speaker 1: hour resulted in either stable or increasing levels of enjoyment.
Speaker 1: So that's that's a nice thing to hear, you know.
Speaker 1: I gotta say, when when you sent that article over,
Speaker 1: my first reaction was, oh, thank god, I'm not the
Speaker 1: only one that feels this way, right, Oh, like that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the idea to speak to a strangers like you know,
Speaker 1: and I've been a comic and towards the country, you know,
Speaker 1: over years and years and met all sorts of you know,
Speaker 1: different people, and and this article is a hundred percent true.
Speaker 1: Like it was always much better than in my head
Speaker 1: I was anticipating, like you know, when you meet strangers
Speaker 1: and people. And it's a really encouraging article because hey,
Speaker 1: like I said, and like I thought, I was the
Speaker 1: only one that didn't look forward to every single interaction
Speaker 1: with other human beings and right, and also that it's
Speaker 1: always better than you think. Yeah, And so they brought
Speaker 1: in over a thousand people to conduct this research. Right,
Speaker 1: they would they would put together people in pairs. They'd meet,
Speaker 1: chat for a few minutes, then they'd break, they would
Speaker 1: leave record their assessment of the conversation. Then they would
Speaker 1: record how much enjoyment they were getting from the discussion,
Speaker 1: and and also asked to predict their future levels of
Speaker 1: enjoyment or you know, satisfaction from speaking to the stranger.
Speaker 1: And then they'd go back to the person and kind
Speaker 1: of do this over and over and over time. Again
Speaker 1: like that, like the results are saying, people were not
Speaker 1: running out of things to talk about, and they found
Speaker 1: the experiment very pleasant. And in one of the they
Speaker 1: did five different experiments. In one of the experiments right,
Speaker 1: participants had the option to either cut a conversation short
Speaker 1: or they would be required to speak for an extra
Speaker 1: twenty five minutes. And the group that had the option two,
Speaker 1: or the group that was asked to speak longer they
Speaker 1: were they reported much higher levels of enjoyment than the
Speaker 1: group that was able to cut the conversation off when
Speaker 1: they when they felt comfortable. I think they were only children,
Speaker 1: uh and and I think again, you know, we really
Speaker 1: underestimate the fact that just that how curious we are,
Speaker 1: even back to talking about science and being a kid
Speaker 1: and observing children like we are curious creatures or social animals.
Speaker 1: And a lot of the enjoyment for people merely came
Speaker 1: from just finding out more about the other person that
Speaker 1: they were just inquisitive that they're like, oh, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: The thing that really motivated people was this sort of
Speaker 1: idea that they wanted to actually just learn more about
Speaker 1: this person they had just met. And yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that's a really interesting thing. That we really lose. Is that,
Speaker 1: like how powerful conversation actually is. It's I think because
Speaker 1: of social media and how especially in the last few years,
Speaker 1: so many people are even more and more you know, disconnected,
Speaker 1: and the emotions are running high and and and going
Speaker 1: to very pessimistic places. That just mere really connecting with
Speaker 1: a person and saying like hey, like hey, I'm this person. No,
Speaker 1: you do this, it helps tremendously because it dispels all
Speaker 1: of these illusions and like you said, fortune telling that
Speaker 1: we have about another person, you know, the best way
Speaker 1: to eliminate that is to actually be around that person. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm embarrassed by how much of a revelation it was
Speaker 1: to me when I, like, when I stopped drinking, I
Speaker 1: was like, how will I ever like talk to people
Speaker 1: ever again? And my wife, who is brilliant and also
Speaker 1: great I I assumed naturally social person, She's like, no,
Speaker 1: you just asked them about themselves. And I was like, oh, right,
Speaker 1: and they're dumb, so they're gonna like talking about themselves.
Speaker 1: But no, it's actually that people are interesting and so
Speaker 1: when I asking them about themselves, you learn new interesting
Speaker 1: things about them, and then you like build on that,
Speaker 1: like a human conversation I believe is what what they're
Speaker 1: calling um but like, yeah I was, and sometimes they're dumb,
Speaker 1: but yeah, and then you can always just be like
Speaker 1: uh huh, and then you start you open up your
Speaker 1: bank of you know, I'm going to remember this for
Speaker 1: comedy purposes, right, You're like, where my next conversation? Yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah we are. It's so helpful and like you're saying,
Speaker 1: like in so many levels it helps a two demistify
Speaker 1: or make people less obscure to us, or we might
Speaker 1: be projecting all kinds of ship of who we think
Speaker 1: somebody is based on merely just looking at them. Right,
Speaker 1: to connect to a human being that that is truly
Speaker 1: going to begin to erode. Things like you're not just
Speaker 1: seeing somebody who's walking their dog and you see every
Speaker 1: now and then that person now becomes this person with
Speaker 1: a name who you know actually is from this part
Speaker 1: of the country or another country, and you have this
Speaker 1: in common. And now when you see them, you have
Speaker 1: an you you have a connection to them, not to
Speaker 1: say that you're best friends, but when you walk by
Speaker 1: that person again, you said, well, let's say, what's a
Speaker 1: person that I met last week? You don't have to
Speaker 1: be best friends, but that already you're already you're already
Speaker 1: beginning to see who is in your community and connecting
Speaker 1: with them. And I just think in general, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's good to remind ourselves that just in general, things
Speaker 1: are never as fucked up as we think they're going
Speaker 1: to be. As it relates to like our social anxiety,
Speaker 1: where we're like, damn, man, this is gonna be fucking
Speaker 1: weird when I talk to this person or I gotta
Speaker 1: go to this thing, And it's never as bad as
Speaker 1: we have we we make it out to be in
Speaker 1: our minds for sure. Well, Chris uh, it's been truly
Speaker 1: a pleasure having you on the Daily Zeitgeist. Where can
Speaker 1: people find you? Follow you all that good stuff? Well,
Speaker 1: it's been great. Thanks a lot for having me on.
Speaker 1: The best place to go is to my my new company.
Speaker 1: It's a Whitecat Entertainment dot com. I just created at
Speaker 1: a storytelling company, you know, right when the pandemic was hitting,
Speaker 1: which is a great time to start a new company,
Speaker 1: by the way, So yeah, that's right here. Um, so
Speaker 1: you can find like the podcast what are you Watching?
Speaker 1: And I haven't one that kind of can help people
Speaker 1: with anxiety if any of the news is getting too much.
Speaker 1: It's called The Quiet Journeys and Professor Atwood and then
Speaker 1: there's graphic novels and um all sorts of stuff there
Speaker 1: on the website. But you can get everything and subscribe
Speaker 1: to the podcast. They're all free at Whitecat Entertainment dot com.
Speaker 1: And is there a tweet or some of the work
Speaker 1: of social media you've been enjoying? There was, and I've
Speaker 1: seen it a couple of times, and it was right
Speaker 1: after the Roe v. Wade thing got leaked. There was
Speaker 1: an image of a handmade's tale and but her emails
Speaker 1: that was underneath and it was but then it wasn't
Speaker 1: just one. There was like I think ten different variations
Speaker 1: of it. So it like went like everywhere really fast,
Speaker 1: and everyone was creating them, so it was it was
Speaker 1: a kind of a fun thing. Yeah, just ship posting
Speaker 1: through the chaos. That's right, Miles. Where can people find
Speaker 1: you as tweet you've been enjoying, Oh, let's see. You
Speaker 1: can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray.
Speaker 1: You can also check out the other pod for twenty
Speaker 1: Day Fiance and also if you like basketball, come by
Speaker 1: check out Miles and Jack got mad, Boostie's talking NBA constantly. Um,
Speaker 1: let's see, man, there's a lot of good tweets. I
Speaker 1: have to choose one to okay, um um, okay this one.
Speaker 1: I got a couple at Very Important because it's Friday.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna endorsee myself at fried at Very Important, tweeted
Speaker 1: Zoom psychiatrists, so the medication? Are you still feeling okay
Speaker 1: on your current dose? Me in other tab typing she
Speaker 1: so yawned on my Stevens into Twitter. But what yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: um Ayanna Murray I a n a at Ayanna Murray tweeted,
Speaker 1: watched everything everywhere all at once, and the whole cinema
Speaker 1: was laughing at the rock scene. Yeah really funny, I thought,
Speaker 1: as I quietly sobbed that one right through. Yeah, I was.
Speaker 1: I was like laughing and crying. Yeah, yeah yeah. And
Speaker 1: then Jordan's Seals uh tweeted at Judy Squirrels, trying to
Speaker 1: get myself out of bed by repeating, come on, Barbie,
Speaker 1: let's go party in increasingly strange voices. Uh tweets I've
Speaker 1: been enjoying. I'm I'm on Twitter at Jack Undersquirrel O'Brien
Speaker 1: where you can find me enjoying tweets like these. At
Speaker 1: the fruit Freak tweeted if Bowser kidnapped my wife, I
Speaker 1: would not be saying wow, no matter how fun the
Speaker 1: jump was. Um. Then Rosen tweeted, yeah, I like a
Speaker 1: tent four giving the cash here a twenty for one
Speaker 1: ticket to more bious, And then Abdullah Elementary School tweeted,
Speaker 1: every worker deserves an indoor basketball court steps away from
Speaker 1: their desk, like the NBA on t NT team, and
Speaker 1: I just think that's true. You can find us on
Speaker 1: Twitter at Daily Zygeist. We're at the Daily Zygeist on Instagram,
Speaker 1: we have Facebook fan page and a website, Daily zeitgeist
Speaker 1: dot com, where we post our episode done our foot notes.
Speaker 1: We link off to the information that we talked about
Speaker 1: in today's episode, as well as the song that we
Speaker 1: think you might enjoy. Miles, what song do we think
Speaker 1: people might do good? I just stumbled upon a new
Speaker 1: artist named Curtis Wells Uh describes as a producer, arranger,
Speaker 1: songwriter and singer Trinidadian Diaspora, United States, transient, Berlin inhabitant
Speaker 1: and man like this this track. It's called a song
Speaker 1: about the Sun, and it's if the vibe of it
Speaker 1: is like if Kevin Parker from Tam and Paulo was black,
Speaker 1: is like it feels like black Tam Apollo. That's how
Speaker 1: That's just kind of my first instinct sonically of how
Speaker 1: I hear it. Not to take anything away from either people,
Speaker 1: but if you do like that sort of like psyche
Speaker 1: rock style of Tame Apollo that has like good strong
Speaker 1: backbeat to it, this is that and like good falsetto vocals.
Speaker 1: So this is Curtis Wells with a song about the sun.
Speaker 1: All right, we'll go check that out. The Daily zeit
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