Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two thirty five,
Speaker 1: Episode one of Dirday. Like, yeah, it's a production of
Speaker 1: I Heart Radio. I have a good feeling about season
Speaker 1: two thirty five. Oh yeah, I think this is gonna
Speaker 1: be a good one. Two thirty four Summer calling it
Speaker 1: the best, the best yet. But we need to see
Speaker 1: what we have in store for you in season two
Speaker 1: thirty five. Um, we didn't lose momentum at the end
Speaker 1: of last week, even though we may have sounded dead
Speaker 1: and the later trends episodes, we were in the lab
Speaker 1: and we're back, all right, And you are sub tweeting
Speaker 1: me with that because I was. I was definitely listless yourself.
Speaker 1: You're like, this is the time of the week one
Speaker 1: I can't bring myself to give a shit about And yeah,
Speaker 1: the trends are fucking just bummers, And hey, the trends
Speaker 1: is different. This this is a podcast where we take
Speaker 1: a deep dive into America's consciousness. It is Monday, May second, Um,
Speaker 1: so happy May to everyone. Of course, we can't, we can't,
Speaker 1: we can we can't just gloss over what that day
Speaker 1: is exactly. Uh huh oh it's World Tuna Day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, shout out sandwich lovers, may Tuna be
Speaker 1: with you. Oh, yes, to be with you, I think
Speaker 1: is where they got the idea for this being Tuna Day.
Speaker 1: If I have my um my prequels correct. Anyways, my
Speaker 1: name's Jack O'Brien, A K. Potatoes O'Brien, and I'm thrilled
Speaker 1: to be joined as always by my co host Mr
Speaker 1: Miles grab Bad Massive with Jacob uh Bad Massive. It's easy.
Speaker 1: That was me trying to be Eric Carrman um or
Speaker 1: also just Eric but also Eric Carman, the singer. I
Speaker 1: was doing a bit of a mash up there, but
Speaker 1: that is from Fraggle Rock Stan account at charm Offs
Speaker 1: and s I V sorry they tell you to sing
Speaker 1: it like Eric Cartman. No, but the artist is Eric Carman,
Speaker 1: and I was like, let me do Eric Carman as
Speaker 1: Eric Cartman. So I just took some I just just yeah,
Speaker 1: you're that's poetic license, is what that is. Um. We
Speaker 1: were informed Eric Carmen is uh g q P, which
Speaker 1: I didn't. I had to figure out what that mat
Speaker 1: but I think that just means they're a Republican who
Speaker 1: has q leaning. UM. So good to know that's that's
Speaker 1: Eric Carman. That's the same person who sings uh hungry
Speaker 1: eyes right that we talked about last week. Yeah, a
Speaker 1: couple of hits. I might have been a bit dismissive.
Speaker 1: Um all by myself laps. Anyways, um miles, we are
Speaker 1: thrilled to be joined by the resident Fellow at Atlantic
Speaker 1: Council's Digital Forensics Forensic Research Lab. Get ready for whole
Speaker 1: to mania. Brother, it's the brilliant and talented Jared har
Speaker 1: what's up. Welcome, Hey, thanks for having me. Hey man,
Speaker 1: you know he did for having me. As he ripped
Speaker 1: his shirt open, his yellow tank top open, um ripped
Speaker 1: new man. I feel okay. So if people have been
Speaker 1: listening for a minute, Jared has been on in the
Speaker 1: early episodes, and we talked a lot about his work
Speaker 1: when he was at right Wing Watch, bringing us the
Speaker 1: tastiest bits of nonsense from that side of the spectrum.
Speaker 1: But uh, you know, you're you're, you're you're evolving a
Speaker 1: but you're doing some other things behind the scenes now,
Speaker 1: doing more researchers. Yeah, yeah, I'm doing more research now.
Speaker 1: It's uh a little bit quieter on the like public
Speaker 1: facing front, but you know, still trying to you know,
Speaker 1: push back against this stuff, but you know, right on
Speaker 1: the loads, I guess you're not. You're not going to
Speaker 1: see pack as much these days and getting screamed at,
Speaker 1: uh well not since COVID because I don't want to
Speaker 1: get like spittle in my face, right right, right, seriously,
Speaker 1: I will be back there. Um, I kind of can't
Speaker 1: help myself, but go to this stuff, right, I have
Speaker 1: that like sick twistic what's it called mac mechanistic? Is
Speaker 1: that the word machistic? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I've got I've
Speaker 1: got that part of my brain that I need to
Speaker 1: punish every once in a while. There you go, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's, it's it's really I'm always intrigued by, you know,
Speaker 1: the people like you or um like Amanda Moore who
Speaker 1: we've had on, like people who are just naturally aravitating
Speaker 1: towards you, Like I'm so curious by this. Uh yet
Speaker 1: your it doesn't make you extremely bummed out enough that
Speaker 1: you'll never do it again, so thank you. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I've got the stomach for it, and I'm
Speaker 1: I'm curious about it because I dislike it so much. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, as long as I can process it, I'd
Speaker 1: rather do that. So other people don't have to bother,
Speaker 1: you know, I'll give you the spark notes and just
Speaker 1: let me deal with these fear does and do you
Speaker 1: stay like do you are you at a point now
Speaker 1: where you get them enough that you're like not surprised,
Speaker 1: or because I'm always amazed. I think I have enough
Speaker 1: distance that I'm always amazed when like, you know, when
Speaker 1: they start injecting their p into them or you know,
Speaker 1: to decide that the real cause of COVID is uh
Speaker 1: snake venom in the in the water supply, Like it
Speaker 1: does seem like a constantly invent to font of insane bullshit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess I surprised is probably the wrong word. I'm
Speaker 1: not necessarily surprised by it, but I am always just
Speaker 1: kind of amazed. It's like watching a TV show that's
Speaker 1: been on for like four seasons too long, and there's
Speaker 1: just all these like plot twists that come up and
Speaker 1: you're like, no fucking way, are you kidding? And you're
Speaker 1: like that completely makes the last three seasons moot based
Speaker 1: off this plot twist. Yeah, Or it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: you turn into one of the annoying guys that watches
Speaker 1: The Simpsons and it's like wow, you know, the latest
Speaker 1: episode didn't line up with season three episode seven, where
Speaker 1: Homer actually said, right, right, yeah, it's it's I kind
Speaker 1: of like almost you're watching it devolved, like it's like
Speaker 1: Benjamin Button, Like it's the arguments are getting less intelligent.
Speaker 1: So in that sense, like you should, we can't be
Speaker 1: surprising the direction. It's because like with every step it's
Speaker 1: just more like transparently bigoted or whatever until the point
Speaker 1: like it's I think the end point would just be
Speaker 1: screaming like shouting fuck you at the top of your lungs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's going to be electing literal seals into Congress who
Speaker 1: just get bark all the time, right right, just to like, yeah,
Speaker 1: just to pone the lips, like slap their flippers together
Speaker 1: and call people pedophiles. You're so triggered, dude, You're so triggered.
Speaker 1: You're like, what do I have to watch Benjamin Button?
Speaker 1: Because I think that's maybe the second Benjamin Button reference
Speaker 1: you've made that doesn't really make sense to me. Do
Speaker 1: I have to watch? I'm just saying that it's just
Speaker 1: getting younger, right, okay, like just moving in opposite right,
Speaker 1: I'm is that how it happens and like Brad Pitt
Speaker 1: gets younger and turns into a baby, and like cognitively
Speaker 1: he gets like younger and dumber too. Or is he
Speaker 1: like a baby that's like he? Could I have he
Speaker 1: would he was old? Didn't he start off as an
Speaker 1: old baby? He starts out as a person that's been
Speaker 1: so longest? Yeah, didn't. I didn't mean to evoke Benjamin's
Speaker 1: good name to funk up the whole lore of the things.
Speaker 1: I just mean, ship's moving a weird like old as
Speaker 1: young and young as old. It's the opposite of the
Speaker 1: Raptors becoming smarter in Jurassic Park. Got it? Oh? Shoot,
Speaker 1: I thought you were about to talk about the Toronto Raptors,
Speaker 1: which I have learned not to do because their fans
Speaker 1: are very serious. Um. Yeah, as opposed to the right
Speaker 1: wing people. Uh um no, I love love the Raptors.
Speaker 1: Great season to the Raptors and great season. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: hats off to them. Yeah, no, truly, they have some
Speaker 1: amazing young talent. All right, well, Jared, we're going to
Speaker 1: get to know you a little bit better the moment. First,
Speaker 1: we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of the things
Speaker 1: we're talking about today. I'm not going to say that
Speaker 1: we uh, you know, shaped the dock around our guest.
Speaker 1: But there there are just some things that I'm always like,
Speaker 1: I wonder what Jared would would think about this, UM
Speaker 1: so for instance, Madison Cawthorne's career path of late I'm
Speaker 1: curious to hear your take on UM. It seems to
Speaker 1: be the best confirmation we have that the uh like
Speaker 1: eyes wide shut style sex parties that are happening in
Speaker 1: Congress are are real and uh and they don't want
Speaker 1: you to know about them. UH. So we'll talk about that.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about Satan back in a big way, talk
Speaker 1: about things happening uh in in cycles. Satan so hot
Speaker 1: once again. Satan is getting so hot again. Love shout
Speaker 1: out to our dark lord. You know your I want
Speaker 1: to talk about general, the general state of consequences for
Speaker 1: the extreme right UM. And well that that I will
Speaker 1: of course cause us to UH ask the question, what's
Speaker 1: what's Roger Stone up to? UM? And he's he's up
Speaker 1: in Canada. Well, we'll talk about what he's up to uh,
Speaker 1: and then we'll ask the question do osk our winners
Speaker 1: really live longer than Oscar losers and people who have
Speaker 1: never um, you know been won the award. It turns
Speaker 1: out yes, and I have some theories as to why
Speaker 1: all that. Plenty more, But first year we do like
Speaker 1: to ask our guests, what is something from your search history? Uh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I had to go through and make sure I
Speaker 1: didn't find anything too embarrassing. Um, but it's been a
Speaker 1: while since I've been on TDZ, has some life changes,
Speaker 1: got engaged all that stuff, so recent search history. What
Speaker 1: is the difference between chinos and trousers? Uh? You know,
Speaker 1: I'm shopping for stuff to where uh, to my wedding
Speaker 1: to you know, rehearsal, dinner, all that stuff, and I
Speaker 1: for the most part a T shirt and jeans kind
Speaker 1: of guy, so so that I don't just like vomit
Speaker 1: all over myself when I walk into the joseph A
Speaker 1: bank or whatever. Trying to make sure that I know
Speaker 1: what this is. Turns out the difference is fabric. Oh,
Speaker 1: it was like like Khaki's right, it is like what
Speaker 1: it like It could be considered a chino. Yeah, Chino
Speaker 1: is like cotton, and I get trousers or like wool
Speaker 1: or linen or something. So trousers are like suit pants essentially, right,
Speaker 1: just decoupled from the suit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I do research for a living, so it wasn't just
Speaker 1: like you didn't stop it. What's the difference between chinos
Speaker 1: and trousers that I mean? After a while, I was
Speaker 1: looking at like thread counts on Italian wool. What does
Speaker 1: that mean? And uh, yeah, you gotta know depending on you,
Speaker 1: like what's the weather going to be? Do you need
Speaker 1: something that you got to consider that you don't want
Speaker 1: to sweat through? You need some of the more breathable
Speaker 1: that doesn't matter? Then yeah, maybe you want some wool. Um.
Speaker 1: I went through this from my own wedding, and I
Speaker 1: sweat a lot. So I picked a linen suit because
Speaker 1: I wanted it to be as breezy as possible. And
Speaker 1: and I you know what, the pictures you can barely
Speaker 1: tell that I was sweating to everything. Yeah, you look great,
Speaker 1: you look cool and comfortable. Um, where are you leaning, Jared?
Speaker 1: What do you lean in towards trousies? Genos? Uh? You know,
Speaker 1: I I think I'm leaning towards trousers. I don't know, Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: all right. It was fucking guy. I didn't know it
Speaker 1: was a crime to look nice and just leaving your
Speaker 1: boys behind, man, a real choice. You're letting them know
Speaker 1: into I'm gonna have to lock my Twitter account after this.
Speaker 1: What where are you getting married? Somewhere warm? Getting married
Speaker 1: here in Chicago. It's gonna be out to our wedding,
Speaker 1: so just pray it doesn't rain, I guess, but yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah it should be nice man. I'm really looking forward
Speaker 1: to it. Good. Yeah, wedding. When is it? Because I
Speaker 1: think our invitations got lost? But yeah, we want to
Speaker 1: make sure we're there. They're in the mail there in
Speaker 1: miles is did I'm I'm there? I mean yes, I
Speaker 1: did my own research already to find out where it is,
Speaker 1: and you know, but I'll be there, don't worry. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was gonna. I was gonna ask you for your
Speaker 1: help with the vows too. I didn't have enough you know,
Speaker 1: yelling and nick names in there. Yeah. Oh yeah, well
Speaker 1: we cant help it. It's helpful to just like add
Speaker 1: a random German accent uh and scream like just at
Speaker 1: at random um at your discretion. Keeps people on their toes,
Speaker 1: helps ensure your audience stays uh reasonably sized. Uh exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 1: What what's something you think is overrated? Overrated. Uh, people
Speaker 1: thinking that COVID's over. That ship is still very out there.
Speaker 1: I got it earlier this month, and I'm better now
Speaker 1: i was, you know, I'm all vaxed up and all
Speaker 1: that stuff. So it wasn't as bad as it could
Speaker 1: have been. But it's just wild to me to see
Speaker 1: like a lot of mainstream media and like the government
Speaker 1: even kind of acting like it's no biggie or like
Speaker 1: we're getting back to normal and stuff, as if people
Speaker 1: aren't still getting sick from this and like still going
Speaker 1: to the hospital for this. It's certainly not as bad
Speaker 1: as it was at the onset, right, but uh, yeah, overrated.
Speaker 1: I would say, just like, don't let your guard down
Speaker 1: on that yet. Yeah, No, seriously, it really is. It's
Speaker 1: it's it's there. The funked up part is like all
Speaker 1: the messaging you'd see and like the media would make
Speaker 1: you think, oh where is it. We're good, We're good,
Speaker 1: but like every like almost every other week, I still
Speaker 1: know people still getting sick, and uh, it's yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's tough. It's tough, not fun. Man. That was like
Speaker 1: one of the nastier viruses I can remember getting any
Speaker 1: time recent. Yeah. Yeah, her Majesty got sick with it
Speaker 1: too and was just was pretty It was not in
Speaker 1: a good way, but you know, made it on the
Speaker 1: other side. But it's also like too to that point
Speaker 1: when the government was like, yeah, like we're moving into
Speaker 1: this like endemic phase, It's like, do you think we
Speaker 1: forgot You said, y'all had no money for pandemic response?
Speaker 1: Like where where do I where is? Where do I
Speaker 1: find the comfort in that? While you're saying that, because
Speaker 1: two weeks ago Joe Byron was like, please Congress a
Speaker 1: couple of books or thirty three billion right now for weapons? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about and you know, I know a lot
Speaker 1: of policy agenda gets said on this show, So I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna throw it out there. She's another one of
Speaker 1: those what was checks right now? Yeah, talk about low
Speaker 1: hanging fruit going into a mid term like ships, like
Speaker 1: they're doing everything to piss people off there, like abortion.
Speaker 1: I don't know, we're not gonna really do anything to
Speaker 1: help you all with that. Student loans will tease it,
Speaker 1: and yeah, unemployment stuff. At this point, all the all
Speaker 1: the talk is like about how like sturdy the economy
Speaker 1: is again, and you're like, wow, we're I think we're
Speaker 1: back in almost Yeah. Man, my bank accounts not that much.
Speaker 1: Like it's not it's not huge or anything. I hear
Speaker 1: about this economy stuff, and I'm like, oh, well, that's
Speaker 1: probably really nice for like whoever that benefits. Like how
Speaker 1: does one participate in that economy that you're speaking of?
Speaker 1: May I have some economy, sir? Two economies please? I
Speaker 1: hear it's doing great. I would like some of that
Speaker 1: one rebound please, sir. H what is something you think
Speaker 1: is underrated? Uh so, I think I've talked about it with,
Speaker 1: you know, back in the day on other episodes. But
Speaker 1: I am a photography chunkie. I got into journalism through photography,
Speaker 1: and uh, one thing I'm always at vocate of is
Speaker 1: you know, in this day and age, we're always taking
Speaker 1: like a gazillion photos because we've got cameras in our
Speaker 1: pockets and these phone cameras are like pretty damn good
Speaker 1: these days. Right, But I'm a huge advocate of like
Speaker 1: printing some of those pictures out, you know, give them
Speaker 1: as gifts, playing them on your wall, because photos are
Speaker 1: the kind of thing that we like appreciate more as
Speaker 1: time goes on. Right, They remind you of fun times
Speaker 1: you had people you love that sort of thing, So
Speaker 1: print it out, make it physical, make it real. You know.
Speaker 1: I like, I know, my iCloud backup or whatever, probably
Speaker 1: a thousands of photos in there. And if there's something
Speaker 1: that's like really special, print it out and and enjoy
Speaker 1: it that way and you'll thank yourself later, just like
Speaker 1: an adopt matrix printer. What are we talking here? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I yeah, yeah, I'm thinking, you know, I
Speaker 1: someone needs to develop a plug in that turns your
Speaker 1: pictures into those old like fax machine art. You know,
Speaker 1: we're at signs and dashes and backslashes and yeah, you
Speaker 1: hold it across the room and you're like, oh, look
Speaker 1: it's a Selene Dion. That's cool, dude. But do you
Speaker 1: like go to a just like a photo lab, like
Speaker 1: a photo development place? Where where where do you get
Speaker 1: your pictures developed? Think there's not a lot of like
Speaker 1: in person places. Um, there's some around Chicago. I'll go
Speaker 1: get stuff printed there just because I you know, I
Speaker 1: hope that those places don't go out of business forever.
Speaker 1: But even a lot of the online places, I mean,
Speaker 1: the quality is pretty good. Uh Okay, printing photos isn't
Speaker 1: like rocket science. Right, So it's speak for yourself. My
Speaker 1: fun fuck it up. Every time I'm trying to try
Speaker 1: my best just doesn't work out. No, But that I
Speaker 1: really agree about the physical picture thing because I think
Speaker 1: it is something we we lose because it's so easy
Speaker 1: to take so many photos now, Like when we were
Speaker 1: growing up, it's like you had a disposable camera and
Speaker 1: like those are your frames that you have to play with,
Speaker 1: and once once you had it, it was like, I'm
Speaker 1: getting this developed immediately because pictures aren't a thing that
Speaker 1: we can take all the time. And I just think
Speaker 1: of how many pictures like I remember from my childhood
Speaker 1: because they were printed out, that they were framed, that
Speaker 1: they were in the house, that they were at my house,
Speaker 1: my grandparents house, And I think of, like, how I'm
Speaker 1: you sort of lose that dimension of memory by not
Speaker 1: printing stuff out as much, because like almost all of
Speaker 1: my memories of pictures that I can think of sort
Speaker 1: of end when I'm eleven years old, and then everything
Speaker 1: else I'm like, oh yeah, that's a memory. That's a memory.
Speaker 1: That's a memory, but it doesn't feel like the same
Speaker 1: way where you walk through your house and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, there's my picture of my grandparents. There's that
Speaker 1: picture of me and my birthday. There's a picture of
Speaker 1: my mom when she was younger. Like that's we kind
Speaker 1: of I don't know if I feel like yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it sounds cheesy, but like you gotta you
Speaker 1: gotta make some space in your life for the kind
Speaker 1: of sentimental stuff, right. Yeah. It was like one of
Speaker 1: the main products that was advertised on TV for like
Speaker 1: my childhood was like Kodak film like capture a moment
Speaker 1: and you know, and then with our phones, we just
Speaker 1: kind of we're like, well, that's the thing that we
Speaker 1: don't have to do anymore. And I think it's been
Speaker 1: completely uh undervalued, underrated if you will, um will. Also
Speaker 1: we have the ability to be like I don't like
Speaker 1: that picture. I'm going to change it, you know, Like
Speaker 1: there's there's just there's our relationship to photography as just
Speaker 1: evolved in so many ways, like just even in the
Speaker 1: last ten years. But yeah, print them out. What's the
Speaker 1: picture you remember from your house? Jack? What's it? Because
Speaker 1: I know everybody can recall a picture that was framed
Speaker 1: that they can just see it in their mind's eye
Speaker 1: from their childhood being in their house. I'm looking at
Speaker 1: a picture of air eldest son's first birthday, which is
Speaker 1: a big deal in Korean culture. Um, I am in
Speaker 1: a big like ceremonial thing. So's my wife and he
Speaker 1: is getting a big handful of cake for the first time.
Speaker 1: Um and uh all I can think about I look
Speaker 1: like shit. Um, I really wish I looked better in
Speaker 1: this picture. Um, I guess whatever, but uh yeah, I
Speaker 1: just wish I had done a better smile. I always
Speaker 1: think of a picture that my mom took or my
Speaker 1: dad picture my dad took with mc hammer, what that
Speaker 1: we had on our refrigerator, and you could have you
Speaker 1: could have gone first, so I would have known not
Speaker 1: to even bring I'm just saying, like I'm just saying
Speaker 1: these things I can I can think of so many
Speaker 1: things that were printed out because they were printed out.
Speaker 1: It truly is like this difference in our ability to
Speaker 1: remember things. And I think that's a really good point, Jared.
Speaker 1: You know, look, if you're a printing company, Hollarado US,
Speaker 1: so we could have said your name right there, but
Speaker 1: instead we're gonna say go to CVS. Yeah. Also, a
Speaker 1: nice little photography hack that I just learned. Uh get
Speaker 1: your own paparazza to follow you around. Apparently that's something
Speaker 1: that Kardashians do. Each of them had their own hired,
Speaker 1: dedicated paparazzo. Um, so you know, also a fun thing
Speaker 1: you could do for yourself. I would actually that should
Speaker 1: be the funnest project to follow tail you Jack and
Speaker 1: take picture you like so not trying to be glamorous,
Speaker 1: like you got your Fannie pack on you like just
Speaker 1: like going to Trader Joe's. But like those pictures of
Speaker 1: you coming emerging from your car with like sunglasses on,
Speaker 1: You're talking about about a big day here, Miles, I'm
Speaker 1: going Trader Joe's. Come on, man, it's like you squinting
Speaker 1: into the sun. And then the headline is like O'Brian
Speaker 1: furious the latest allegations. Yeah yeah, O'Brian leaves Trader Joe's
Speaker 1: furious when everything but the bagel flavored chips unavailable. Um
Speaker 1: but that's cool. What what about you job? What's what's
Speaker 1: a pictures picture you got in your mind's eye printed
Speaker 1: one you can recall? I probably old pictures of my mom. Uh.
Speaker 1: I think it's just like wild to me. It's like
Speaker 1: staring straight into a time machine. Right right, and and
Speaker 1: being like, damn, my mom wasn't always old hut right.
Speaker 1: I was like, Mom, I'm just like mom listening to
Speaker 1: or my mom was like I was your age in
Speaker 1: this picture, I'm like my age. It's also wild, like
Speaker 1: what a photographer can do, like the difference between pictures
Speaker 1: taken by um a normy like me and then um
Speaker 1: like the picture that really pops into my mind talking
Speaker 1: about like from my growing up. The day I was born,
Speaker 1: my dad was like home with my older sister who
Speaker 1: was like two at the time, wasn't even two at
Speaker 1: the time, and she was so pissed, and they happened
Speaker 1: to be hanging out with this like I think you
Speaker 1: want a pulitzer, uh, this photographer who was a good
Speaker 1: friend of my dad, And like they're the best pictures
Speaker 1: like that have ever like come across our family, Like
Speaker 1: there so and they're like these black and white pictures
Speaker 1: of my dad trying to cheer my sister up about
Speaker 1: my impending existence. Yeah, man, shout out, shout out the
Speaker 1: photographers out there. The memories. I'm like, I'm actually trying
Speaker 1: to think of how many Like now, if I have memories,
Speaker 1: I'm like, let me go back on my Instagram feed
Speaker 1: or some ship. Yeah, which is so weird. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: put that ship. Make fucking little photo books. Fuck it,
Speaker 1: that's what I need to be doing, like with all
Speaker 1: my just nonsensical volumes of all the photos I've taken them,
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, man, pull up march close to home.
Speaker 1: Because I've had the plan that I was going to
Speaker 1: do a photo book for each year of my kids
Speaker 1: and my eldest six birthdays coming up, and I was,
Speaker 1: I have not done it yet, So there you go.
Speaker 1: You got time, still time because you know, there could
Speaker 1: be good pictures that we don't want to lose lose
Speaker 1: out on those these last two days. So um, but
Speaker 1: absolutely not. Well look man, I mean they can't be
Speaker 1: there for his birthday, all right, because it's not my
Speaker 1: lack of planning. It's see what I did as a kid.
Speaker 1: Give him one coupon for this gift that's about to
Speaker 1: arrive in three I owe you. Yeah, most of my
Speaker 1: kids belongs to are io U s. I've just you know,
Speaker 1: give them. Um. All right, let's take a quick break
Speaker 1: and we'll come back and talk. Madison Cawthorne and we're back,
Speaker 1: And was it about a month ago that Madison Cawthorne
Speaker 1: like mentioned that the thing about how you know you
Speaker 1: get to you get to d C and all your
Speaker 1: favorite politicians from growing up like invite you to sex
Speaker 1: parties where people are doing key bumps and you really
Speaker 1: have the wool pulled out from over your eye, like yeah,
Speaker 1: it's pretty pretty wild and like saying confirming what I
Speaker 1: think a lot of people suspect about the wealthy and
Speaker 1: the powerful. Um. And then there was a a photo
Speaker 1: let's just tell this picture this story and pictures. There's
Speaker 1: a photo of him like going into a meeting with
Speaker 1: Republican leadership and emerging like after having done what appears
Speaker 1: to be some pretty serious crying. Um. And then just
Speaker 1: a bunch of these photos from his past of him
Speaker 1: like you know, I don't know, like just homophobic like
Speaker 1: things that you're homophobic bully would use to like taunt you. Basically,
Speaker 1: he's got his hand on a guy's crotch. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: he wore lady clothing on a cruise ship doing some
Speaker 1: fucking activity. It is like what the fuck? Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I mean so this clearly like we can use logic
Speaker 1: and you know what, just the way things are moving
Speaker 1: around this story to all agree that like what he
Speaker 1: originally said is absolutely true. There the Republican leadership is
Speaker 1: absolutely having um wild presumably uh cooked up sex parties
Speaker 1: and they don't want people to know to the and
Speaker 1: then and now they're making impact. It's hard to know, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, like Jared, I'm gonna ask you why you
Speaker 1: think that's all happening? But he has had so many
Speaker 1: things happened. Just he brought a loaded gun on a
Speaker 1: fucking he's trying to get on a plane with a
Speaker 1: loaded gun, and that happens. They were like the first
Speaker 1: time insider insider possible insider trading where Tom till is
Speaker 1: a federal Republican is also like oh this is bad now.
Speaker 1: Now that feels like the sort of thing that you
Speaker 1: just get away with as a Republican unless they don't
Speaker 1: want you to, unless you break the Omerta about coke
Speaker 1: at Orgies. Yeah, Dared, I mean like, I mean, how
Speaker 1: do you see because clearly there's there's a lot of backlash,
Speaker 1: but what what how do you like, what's the motive here?
Speaker 1: Do you think? I mean it strikes me as retaliation.
Speaker 1: It's either some Republican I don't know, donor one of
Speaker 1: the politicians, leadership activist something someone got very mad at
Speaker 1: Madison Cawthorne or it's like the most brilliant, like democratic
Speaker 1: uh operative rat fucking campaign I've seen in a long time. Um,
Speaker 1: and generally my takeaway is, uh that Madison Cawthorne is
Speaker 1: being publish you know, punished for being a himbo and
Speaker 1: for making Republicans sound cooler than they have, like saying
Speaker 1: saying a niceria thing about Republicans than anybody said in decades, right,
Speaker 1: cooked up sex parties. That sounds wild, dude, Like, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: It's just there's some counter some interesting reason that they're
Speaker 1: such hateful, homophobic, racist monsters, and it's that, uh, they're
Speaker 1: truly monsters behind closed doors who just doing drugs and
Speaker 1: like hate themselves. They're like in the mirror being like
Speaker 1: you fucking pig. Uh. And then that's that's what fuels
Speaker 1: fuels all their just horrifying policy. Yeah. But I mean
Speaker 1: as as much as I've enjoyed as much as anyone, right,
Speaker 1: like looking at the photos and you know, making jokes
Speaker 1: or whatever, you know, Mass and Cawthorne queer legend. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Mass and Cawthorne looking great. Um, it's it's it's also
Speaker 1: really gross because like that's whoever is retaliating against him.
Speaker 1: That's the direction it went, Like the insider trading thing.
Speaker 1: It seems to be like the most serious thing that
Speaker 1: has has kind of been pushed back against your gun
Speaker 1: twice on a plane, like like there's some serious stuff
Speaker 1: and like I had my mind made up about medicine.
Speaker 1: Cawthorne as soon as that, I think it was like
Speaker 1: a Jezebel piece dropped about his trip to the Eagles Nest,
Speaker 1: which is like Hitler's hideout and being like, damn, this
Speaker 1: is sick. I was like, okay, cool, I know who
Speaker 1: this guy is. Um, but that that's the direction it
Speaker 1: went where it's like ah ha ha, look at this
Speaker 1: this guy, this pretty boy or what I just it's
Speaker 1: so gross. Yeah, it's like it's right, it's like who
Speaker 1: is this meant? Because I part of me can see
Speaker 1: that the dynamics of it that he's he's in a
Speaker 1: primary race and if clearly the Republicans would prefer someone
Speaker 1: else there, that is like that their line of attack
Speaker 1: is do we just appeal to the basis homophobia and
Speaker 1: like bring all this stuff out to be like, hey,
Speaker 1: what do you guys sing of this guy? Because I'm
Speaker 1: not sure for anyone who's not a Republican, you look
Speaker 1: at Madison Cawthorne and you're already your mind has been
Speaker 1: made up, you know, like it's you're like, no, no no, no,
Speaker 1: this this person doesn't need to be in Congress, but
Speaker 1: all of this added ship You're like, nah, it's it
Speaker 1: feels like maneuvering maybe like on the right, just because
Speaker 1: that's their perspective, is that like, oh, maybe he's you know,
Speaker 1: like we can't trust him because he dresses in women's
Speaker 1: clothes or something, even though that was clearly him on
Speaker 1: a cruise. Like, there's really not much to any of it,
Speaker 1: and you're to the homophobic attacks, it's like nothing but
Speaker 1: like that seems to be the angle that they have
Speaker 1: chosen too to attack from, and probably is the most
Speaker 1: effective in his home uh state, in his home district,
Speaker 1: right Yeah, And it's um, it's kind of like this
Speaker 1: is what like Republican smear campaigns used to look like
Speaker 1: all the time, where it's like instead of being like, oh,
Speaker 1: this person is corrupt or this person doesn't have good credentials,
Speaker 1: they'd be like this person is gay, and that like
Speaker 1: that was enough to trigger a reaction from the base
Speaker 1: that was strong enough that they could run with it. Um.
Speaker 1: And it's like it's it's almost like like obviously that
Speaker 1: stuff didn't ever like really go away. It just sort
Speaker 1: of like obtuscated itself. But to see it back so
Speaker 1: just kind of like raw in its raw form like this,
Speaker 1: it's a little bit like staring into a time machine.
Speaker 1: Granted the time machine doesn't go very far back, um,
Speaker 1: but still it's um. Yeah, I don't know. I I
Speaker 1: think it can be really tempting to think that like
Speaker 1: America has moved on past that kind of thing, but
Speaker 1: I think it's a pretty good proof that we're not
Speaker 1: there yet. Yeah. Yeah, the nineties and odds did a
Speaker 1: lot for us to be like, no, I think we're
Speaker 1: I think we're past that, right, And then no, with
Speaker 1: the how how aggressive all of the homophobia and like racism, transphobia,
Speaker 1: et cetera. Is, now you're like, on, no, man, people
Speaker 1: are just like it's just it's unfashionable to talk about
Speaker 1: this then and now it feels it's just the air
Speaker 1: of just saying just taking the ask fully off. Now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and and this might just be like nasty primary politics
Speaker 1: in his state, right, this could be unrelated to his
Speaker 1: cocaine and sex parties comments. We don't. I guess we
Speaker 1: don't really know, and we won't know until we figure
Speaker 1: out where this is coming from exactly. Yeah, but lack
Speaker 1: of fundraising momentum. But I know, at least in my mind,
Speaker 1: you know, I heard his comment of Oh, they're having
Speaker 1: sex parties and doing key bumps, and I was like,
Speaker 1: m that sounds kind of true. And then the photo
Speaker 1: came out and I was like, yeah, that's that's definitely true.
Speaker 1: And then the second photo came out and I was like,
Speaker 1: they all do it, don't they? H It's everyone? Um yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: telling me these sex parties are bipartisan. The the amount
Speaker 1: of and the strength and like kind of consistency of
Speaker 1: the attack is the thing that makes me think, well,
Speaker 1: what what separates him from every other politician who's pissed
Speaker 1: people off? And it's that he got specific about the
Speaker 1: thing we all we all suspected was going on. Um,
Speaker 1: so yeah, I don't know. That's why I did want
Speaker 1: to kind of He does seem to be one extreme
Speaker 1: right wing character who is seeing consequences for his actions,
Speaker 1: and I think it's because he broke the rule of
Speaker 1: talking about the sex parties. But I wanted to just
Speaker 1: sort of take stock and get your thoughts on just
Speaker 1: the general state of sequences for the extreme right, because
Speaker 1: you know, on the one hand, uh, we have Trump
Speaker 1: and Marge Green facing serious inquiry into what they did
Speaker 1: in the lead up to January six. Uh. You know,
Speaker 1: Roger Stone is doing the equivalent of swabbing decks in
Speaker 1: Alaska or whatever that threat was from top Gun. Alex
Speaker 1: Jones is getting sued for everything he owns um And
Speaker 1: at the same time, it feels like and yet, like
Speaker 1: does any of this really change anything, like to you know,
Speaker 1: with Trump still is probably going to get elected, like
Speaker 1: uh if if he's allowed to have his Twitter back
Speaker 1: and like Elon Musk uh gets to buy Twitter, and
Speaker 1: that would make it very likely that Trump got elected.
Speaker 1: And the online extremism is spreading into uh in really
Speaker 1: scary ways. So I'm just like curious, like, is there
Speaker 1: real consequence? Are we seeing them face real consequences? Yes?
Speaker 1: So generally, um, you know, for talking like legal consequences
Speaker 1: or something that is always a really slow process, Like
Speaker 1: Alex Jones, for example, it looks like a lot of
Speaker 1: these lawsuits against him for defamation from the parents of
Speaker 1: Sandy Hook victims and some other folks. It seems like
Speaker 1: a lot of them are starting to get towards the end,
Speaker 1: uh you know, having some judgments against him. I know,
Speaker 1: at least in one case, the only question is how
Speaker 1: much money he owes. Uh so it and those cases
Speaker 1: took forever. The legal process is slow. He did everything
Speaker 1: to drag his feet through it, um so. I mean,
Speaker 1: he'll have some financial consequences for it. But it's I
Speaker 1: think sometimes we can like hyper focus on the individual
Speaker 1: a bit too much and kind of miss the bigger picture,
Speaker 1: which is that whether it is Trump, whether it is
Speaker 1: Marjorie Taylor Green, Alex Jones, they're all part of this
Speaker 1: kind of broader social movement of sorts that's happening in
Speaker 1: the US that is just this like weird, uh you know, exclusionary,
Speaker 1: sinister type of thing. But because it does have the
Speaker 1: diet the like makeup of a social movement, it ends
Speaker 1: up being kind of fluid. So if Trump is out
Speaker 1: of the spotlight, someone else rushes into it. If Alex
Speaker 1: Jones gets kicked off social media. Here's ten more mini
Speaker 1: Alex Jones is to you know, fill the feats um.
Speaker 1: And also I think, you know, once you hit a
Speaker 1: certain point of elite in society, it's like it's almost
Speaker 1: like laws don't apply anymore, you know. And and that's
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's, if anything, like people facing the
Speaker 1: harshest consequences are the people that like smashed through the
Speaker 1: doors of the capital, just like the average Joe's that
Speaker 1: don't have money to hire big gun lawyers and stuff.
Speaker 1: Like some of those folks are going to jail. And
Speaker 1: I mean, probably rightfully so. But it's like that these
Speaker 1: days seems to be the most like evident type of
Speaker 1: consequence being faced by anybody. It's like the the roots
Speaker 1: that got sucked into this bullshit and acted on it,
Speaker 1: Like they're the ones who are paying, you know, a
Speaker 1: more immediate price for this than anybody who filled their
Speaker 1: brain with that bullshit to begin with. The laws applying
Speaker 1: to these wealthy people feels like a more and more
Speaker 1: like a fairy tale that The New York Times tells
Speaker 1: its readers about, like well, Mueller is gonna get Trump
Speaker 1: or like, you know, now Elon Musk is gonna lose
Speaker 1: too much money on his Tesla stock and you know
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, now the Tesla stocks up, But like
Speaker 1: it's it feels like we are in denial. And because
Speaker 1: there are there is no functional way to actually rein
Speaker 1: in this world where the hyper rich can get away
Speaker 1: with just doing immense damage to to our society, then
Speaker 1: like that we have to resort to wishful thinking. What's
Speaker 1: a useful charade? Though? Two? To keep people from then
Speaker 1: saying because if if the news said it started reporting
Speaker 1: because you know, the laws don't apply to rich people, right,
Speaker 1: that's what they report. The next thing is like, okay,
Speaker 1: so what do we need to do, So do we
Speaker 1: need to go outside of the legal system to get
Speaker 1: our justice? You know, like that's like the thinking that
Speaker 1: you have to do, like, well, if the justice system
Speaker 1: doesn't work, then what is going to And I think
Speaker 1: by kind of like gesturing to it, being like, well,
Speaker 1: this is happening and on the horizon, it sort of
Speaker 1: keeps that anger down for people who are trying to
Speaker 1: see justice but are constantly looking at a system that
Speaker 1: doesn't offer it to the people that are actually deserving
Speaker 1: of it. And like to the point about even January
Speaker 1: six like our we because I think we inherently, no,
Speaker 1: we can't get the Trumps and the Eastman's of the
Speaker 1: world that it's better to see fucking twenty proud boys
Speaker 1: locked up, better to see fucking ten oathkeepers locked up,
Speaker 1: because that is I think we're even for people who
Speaker 1: are focused on this and like where we're the consequences,
Speaker 1: we're even doing this ship too. It's like, well, at
Speaker 1: least these fucking people who barely had anything to do
Speaker 1: with it. Somebody's going to jail because the real, the
Speaker 1: real justice is just completely unavailable. Yeah. Yeah, And I'm
Speaker 1: not shedding any tears for any Proud Boys behind bars
Speaker 1: or anything that no, no, no, that's a group right,
Speaker 1: but but yeah, well yeah, I get what you're saying, though.
Speaker 1: It's it's uh wow, I mean it's the same fucking thing, right,
Speaker 1: It's like the people at the top don't have to
Speaker 1: play by the rules that everybody else, you know, catching
Speaker 1: ship for now right, Yeah. Um Rogers stud just is
Speaker 1: uh you know, he is consulting. I think has been
Speaker 1: hired full time maybe by a like fringe um party
Speaker 1: called the Ontario Party, which has never won anything. Last
Speaker 1: the leader, I think just scored two point four percent
Speaker 1: of the boat in the last election that he did. Um,
Speaker 1: so he's basically just like doing birth He's like a
Speaker 1: singer who's doing birthday parties at this point, just like yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll take I'll take your money. Sure, Um, but it
Speaker 1: is kind of there. There's something nice about it being
Speaker 1: up up in Canada, and I think he was initially like, well,
Speaker 1: the trucker convoy is a thing, so let me let
Speaker 1: me get involved there. But um yeah, And I think
Speaker 1: with Roger Stone that's like sometimes I mean, of course
Speaker 1: there's like ways to get politically active, and that's usually
Speaker 1: what I tell people, which is like they're more of
Speaker 1: us than there are of them, and there's no reason
Speaker 1: these people should like have the influence they do, so
Speaker 1: we just need to go on and elbow them out
Speaker 1: and tell them that they they suck or whatever. But uh,
Speaker 1: you know, for the for the person that's just like
Speaker 1: kind of watching this play out on the stage, I
Speaker 1: think like the Roger Stone situation is like a really
Speaker 1: great outcome, which is just that he's like a laughing
Speaker 1: stock even more than he was before and now he's
Speaker 1: um yeah, I guess going up to Canada, right, out
Speaker 1: of some ship to do here, I guess, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: But I mean he's laughing stocked his way all the
Speaker 1: way to being like one of the most influential like
Speaker 1: figures in the last forty years of politics. Just I
Speaker 1: think before repeatedly a laughing stock. But he's like, it's
Speaker 1: useful to he didn't get he wasn't in the full
Speaker 1: public consciousness until a couple of years ago. And now
Speaker 1: when I think when people look at it, it's yeah,
Speaker 1: things are I guess changing. For him to get into dance,
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's the dance moves. Have you ever
Speaker 1: seen him dance? Oh? Yeah, I mean now now we're talking,
Speaker 1: so before we start recording, I was talking about Miles.
Speaker 1: I can't believe you haven't seen Ben Shapiro try to swim.
Speaker 1: But now I'm discovering that I have Roger Stone try
Speaker 1: to dance. It sounds like we're both we both need
Speaker 1: to take this break, this upcoming break, to watch those
Speaker 1: videos and we'll be right back with ever you want
Speaker 1: to watch him dancing a wild Thing by Tone Loke
Speaker 1: desperately and we're back. Uh and uh, you know we're
Speaker 1: not gonna We're not gonna spend the rest of the
Speaker 1: show talking about the two videos we just watched. H
Speaker 1: Roger Stone very dick forward way of dancing. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: is entering the dance floor dick first thrust crump in Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then Ben Shapiro. It's um, you know his the
Speaker 1: top part of his body looks like it has seen
Speaker 1: somebody swim before, right, But that's the thing, He's only
Speaker 1: seen swimming from the surface. Yeah, But the bottom half
Speaker 1: of his body is just going like full Fred flint
Speaker 1: Stone like, yeah, it's fighting the upper half of his
Speaker 1: body the whole time. Anyway, it looks like one of
Speaker 1: those like broken like those toys used to buy that
Speaker 1: could like you could put in a pool and swims,
Speaker 1: but like the legs stopped working. That's kind of like
Speaker 1: how he looks swimming away. Anyways, Let's talk Satan, Yes, baby,
Speaker 1: Satan come home daddy. Um. Yes, I mean again an
Speaker 1: ever present in American panic culture. So it's really not
Speaker 1: surprising when again my dark Lord's name is invoked to
Speaker 1: create a frenzy. Um. But as we look at how
Speaker 1: the far right, you know, it's not just fully embracing,
Speaker 1: you know, like it's all about evangelical Christian extremism, Satan
Speaker 1: is now you know, it's just an even more a
Speaker 1: potent way to rally people because now you can introduce
Speaker 1: it not just to get Christian people involved, but now
Speaker 1: because Republican politics is basically Christianity. You say this is Satan,
Speaker 1: and I were like, what the funk? We're ready? Um. So,
Speaker 1: first I want to touch on major ly Tainted Green,
Speaker 1: who she kicked off a war with Catholics last week
Speaker 1: because of her comments around their beliefs okay of helping
Speaker 1: the less fortunate. So she she's on she went on
Speaker 1: this like fringe Catholic like website to do an interview,
Speaker 1: this like taped interview, which is like so extreme, Like
Speaker 1: I think like the Archdiocese of like Detroit was like,
Speaker 1: please don't use the word Catholic to even describe like
Speaker 1: what you're doing. This is like so absurd. Um. But
Speaker 1: this is a quote that you said when she's talking
Speaker 1: about what's happening with the Catholic Church says, what it
Speaker 1: is is it's Satan's controlling the church. What they're doing
Speaker 1: by saying, oh, we have to love these people and
Speaker 1: take care of these migrants and love another and we're
Speaker 1: doing it, and we're doing is loving one another. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're supposed to love one another, but their definition of
Speaker 1: what love one another means destroying our laws, it means
Speaker 1: completely perverting what our constitution says, it means taking unreal
Speaker 1: advantage of the American taxpayer, and it means pushing a
Speaker 1: globalist policy on the American people. So that's what she's saying.
Speaker 1: Um again, Catholics being controlled by Satan since they are
Speaker 1: following the teachings of their savior. But I think really
Speaker 1: an attempt to try to completely divorce Christians from any
Speaker 1: morality that they have in order, as she's even saying,
Speaker 1: to replace Bible with Constitution, but have that same level
Speaker 1: of dedication to it because if because essentially the problem
Speaker 1: she's framing is, yes, you're good, if you're being you're
Speaker 1: a good you're a good Christian by following the lessons
Speaker 1: of Christ and helping those less fortunate than you, until
Speaker 1: it butts up against what our agenda is as Republicans.
Speaker 1: And that's sort of like what this whole the whole
Speaker 1: point of talking like this is to now say that
Speaker 1: those who are, oh, look at you fucking people really
Speaker 1: follow when Jesus's teaching a knocked that ship off because
Speaker 1: that means you have empathy, and we can't have that
Speaker 1: ship if we're gonna go fucking pedal to the metal
Speaker 1: into fascism. Right. I want to hear the version of
Speaker 1: this argument, but like with corporate welfare, it would never
Speaker 1: come out of her mouth. Right. But it's it's it's
Speaker 1: always about you know, you can't help little people in society,
Speaker 1: but we definitely you know, you need to follow follow
Speaker 1: God in the real way and uh, you know, get
Speaker 1: some tax cuts or some bullshit. You know, the christ
Speaker 1: Institution is what we're gonna probably call the constitution. I'm
Speaker 1: not joking. Who knows, that's like probably what do we
Speaker 1: like a couple of months away from seeing that buzzword
Speaker 1: come out? It's yeah, And like this clever use of
Speaker 1: satan is trying to frame of following being christ Like
Speaker 1: is actually more kin to being satanic um. And I
Speaker 1: think that's a very interesting way that they're trying to like,
Speaker 1: you know, because everything because people talk. I know, people
Speaker 1: who are Christian who are worth the ship, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Who are who are actually empathetic people
Speaker 1: who are in service to their communities, like and they
Speaker 1: would never They're they're not hateful people at all. They're
Speaker 1: religious and they they they take that ship seriously. But
Speaker 1: I think that's a big problem too when you see,
Speaker 1: especially with like Christian Catholic right that by her saying this,
Speaker 1: it showed all of the fractures that are happening. Like
Speaker 1: first of all, then you have conservative Catholics who have
Speaker 1: more of a disposition to acknowledge like the persecution Catholics
Speaker 1: have face to be like, you know, what the funk
Speaker 1: is this? Like this is like what are we doing here?
Speaker 1: We're on the same peep, We're on the same page
Speaker 1: on most shit, but like, don't start swinging the focus
Speaker 1: over here because of whatever talking point you're trying to
Speaker 1: make um and then which led her to basically say, well,
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna I was a Catholic, but all the
Speaker 1: pedophiles and you know, granted that is a very real
Speaker 1: debate and an actual an issue that is the Catholic
Speaker 1: Church is having to have a reckoning with maybe not
Speaker 1: to the extent that most people would like it to,
Speaker 1: but she's able to use these just these real life
Speaker 1: things very disingenuously to keep starting the pot and now
Speaker 1: like it's caused all this in fighting. So well done,
Speaker 1: major Yeah. And then Roger Stone, what was he up to? So, Jared,
Speaker 1: you gotta tell me about have you heard of Elijah Streams?
Speaker 1: This like streaming channel that Roger Stone went on, Elijah Streams. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so this is I I caught it on Right Wing Watch. Um.
Speaker 1: But Roger Stone, right, so he's he's he's back again
Speaker 1: with some satanic panic shit. But this man goes on
Speaker 1: some streaming channel called Elijah Streams. Uh, and he wanted
Speaker 1: to talk about his latest discovery in the world of
Speaker 1: Jesus science, because Roger Stone is a noted theological physicist. Uh.
Speaker 1: He has come with evidence of a literal Satanic portal
Speaker 1: that is opened above the White House. And he has
Speaker 1: a fucking receipts. Yea, there you can say it. It's
Speaker 1: very very clear. It doesn't move day night. It's harder
Speaker 1: to see during the day, but you you see it.
Speaker 1: It doesn't move because it's a photo. And I'm absolutely
Speaker 1: convinced about the inherent there. It is again about the
Speaker 1: inherent evil of what's going on in the White House.
Speaker 1: What's going on, And I think it's imperative that people
Speaker 1: know about this that people have good faith that Christians
Speaker 1: know about this, and we begin a national essentially a
Speaker 1: prayer assault to close the portal. We were born for
Speaker 1: this moment. Okay, I just want to point out that
Speaker 1: was very fantasy. That was a very serious conversation between
Speaker 1: very serious people. And notably there's one like just like
Speaker 1: nerd host guy, there's Roger Stone, and then down here
Speaker 1: it looks like if ned Stark was trying to cosplay
Speaker 1: as Chris Angel MindFreak is like the third panelist on
Speaker 1: this great conversations. But I think, like you said, Jack,
Speaker 1: you're not a photographer, and you said that a lens. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I also like this idea that there's a satanic portal
Speaker 1: above the White House and the person to break that
Speaker 1: news is Roger Stone, as if like nobody bothered to
Speaker 1: look up and just go, oh, ship, what's that? Did
Speaker 1: you hear that thing? You see that like glowing orb
Speaker 1: right up there? Yeah, it's just coming out of most
Speaker 1: visible uh, the most visible building in America? Yeah? Have
Speaker 1: you noticed? It's like there's the sound of like children
Speaker 1: screaming coming out of that is that you? Did you
Speaker 1: notice that big gigantic fireball that opened up against one
Speaker 1: of the most protected pieces of airspace on the planet.
Speaker 1: Did you guys is there day and night? Um, I'm
Speaker 1: glad we watched Elijah streams and now we know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like the one thing about it again as his dreams.
Speaker 1: This is but even for Roger Stone man, this guy
Speaker 1: went from you know, he's got his Nixon backchat and
Speaker 1: now he's telling people that, you know, the picture I
Speaker 1: took of the White House with like the camera that
Speaker 1: I cleaned right after eating a personal pan pizza from
Speaker 1: fucking Pizza Hut with my greasy hands. Uh, that is
Speaker 1: my evidence of Satan coming. It's this reminds me at
Speaker 1: Roger Stone like briefly went on the Q and On
Speaker 1: circuit and he would go on Q and on podcast
Speaker 1: and all the Q and On people would be like, so,
Speaker 1: h Roger Stone, you're your friends with Trump? You think
Speaker 1: ques real? And he just go, well, jeez, I sure
Speaker 1: hope it is. And then they'd be like fuck yeah, baby,
Speaker 1: and then just like, don't eat a bunch of money
Speaker 1: to his legal bills. Feels like that he just has
Speaker 1: to go somewhere and says he agrees with them, and
Speaker 1: then the little donation floodgates open. He's like, welcome, welcome
Speaker 1: to Elijah Streams. Roger Stone. Do you think there's a
Speaker 1: satanic poor above d c Oh yeah, I actually have
Speaker 1: a picture of it, right, yeah, yeah, here it is here.
Speaker 1: See there's that. I agree. I I'm facing massive legal bills. Hey, Roger,
Speaker 1: can you zoom in on that? No? No, no, no,
Speaker 1: it's actually impossible. Say it makes it impossible for those
Speaker 1: zoom in on that right afterward, And this is part
Speaker 1: of it's part of the Roger Stone agrees with you
Speaker 1: for five thousand dollars tour. And if you want to
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Speaker 1: The religious extremism is one way that I think we
Speaker 1: haven't yet seen social media fully go as dark as
Speaker 1: it will go. Like I think, um, we're only starting
Speaker 1: to see that we've seen in other countries where they're like,
Speaker 1: you know, mass killings along religious lines. Um, but you know,
Speaker 1: you see it in some places and it's like coursing
Speaker 1: throughout all of this right wing madness. But I do
Speaker 1: feel like things like this make me realize we might
Speaker 1: have just scratched the surface. Of how bad this could get. Um, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're and it's they're they're finding a way. They said, Okay,
Speaker 1: what's another group of people have energy and believe in
Speaker 1: nonsense that we can get really really energized. And not
Speaker 1: to say that if you're religiously a nonsense, but like
Speaker 1: that these people have. They're willing to hear a lot
Speaker 1: of weird stuff from evangelical preachers, like whether that's you know,
Speaker 1: prosperity doctrine or some other nonsense like that, and then
Speaker 1: meld that with your everything you're feeling about America becoming
Speaker 1: more brown, is youll that your rights are actually beginning
Speaker 1: to dwindle away. And the only way we can do
Speaker 1: that is us, is the good Christians of America, you know,
Speaker 1: defend this and charging it with all this language of
Speaker 1: like constantly framing it as like you verse Satan, even
Speaker 1: in these terrible versions where it's like the most obvious
Speaker 1: just it's clearly bullshit, But they don't care because it
Speaker 1: allows the conversation to center around what is happening in
Speaker 1: d C is satanic? What is happening with whatever Joe
Speaker 1: Biden or someone who's a Democrat wants is satanic and
Speaker 1: it's really about reinforcing that association constantly, and on top
Speaker 1: of that, like Marjorie Taylor Green and others doing it.
Speaker 1: If you are you believe you're acting in a christ
Speaker 1: like manner, but it's running counter to what the aims
Speaker 1: of the party is, then it is in fact satanic. Yes,
Speaker 1: well it's it's the same thing. It's why Republicans are
Speaker 1: calling everybody pedophiles. Now it's you. It's I mean, it's
Speaker 1: an old school like fascist propaganda tack to you make
Speaker 1: your enemy un human, demonic, the most fucked up thing
Speaker 1: you can make them, and then suddenly a whole lot
Speaker 1: of things are on the table to defeat them. You
Speaker 1: know that might not otherwise be if you acknowledge that
Speaker 1: they're human beings. Yeah, um, all right, well, Jared, it's
Speaker 1: been such a pleasure having you on Daily's. I guess
Speaker 1: once again, where can people find you? Follow you all
Speaker 1: that good stuff. You can follow me on Twitter at
Speaker 1: Jared L. Holt, check out d f R lab is
Speaker 1: what it's called. Uh, We've got a lot of great
Speaker 1: work for my colleagues and stuff. I feel like, at
Speaker 1: least in the US. The Russia's invasion of Ukraine has
Speaker 1: kind of like fallen out with a new cycle, but
Speaker 1: there's still like all kinds of like misinformation and bullshit.
Speaker 1: And a lot of my colleagues are are putting out
Speaker 1: some great stuff, So check out d f R Lab
Speaker 1: so that you don't accidentally fall for that stuff. Cool. Um,
Speaker 1: And is there a tweet or some of the work
Speaker 1: of social media you've been enjoying. Yeah, I've been really
Speaker 1: fascinated by this Ryan Zinka Zinky tweet. I like right
Speaker 1: Zink Ryan Zinky, former Secretary of the Interior. His bio
Speaker 1: says this picture he posted, Oh what would this be
Speaker 1: like earlier this week? Uh? Where he's The caption is
Speaker 1: a hundred and forty dollars to fill the truck today
Speaker 1: in pulsing vote and then there's an elephant emoji, so
Speaker 1: vote Republican. But if you look at the picture, he
Speaker 1: has filled his truck with almost thirty one gallons of
Speaker 1: the Supreme plus grade X on gas, which just like uh.
Speaker 1: In one of my buddies remarked, like, do you drive
Speaker 1: a gold plated yacht to work, like, like, you know,
Speaker 1: wearing you know, you know, dress clothes and every I
Speaker 1: don't know, I mean, I just I'm feeling the pain
Speaker 1: at the pump as much as anybody else. Every time
Speaker 1: I feel up my gas tank, I just sort of
Speaker 1: exhale really deeply and have sort of a guttural moan
Speaker 1: these days. But but I'm not really feeling so bad
Speaker 1: for this guy, I gotta say. But it's just not
Speaker 1: There's all kinds of posts like this, like Republicans posing
Speaker 1: next to the gas pump is like, I don't know
Speaker 1: what it is about my brain, but I just think
Speaker 1: it's so funny. I feel like it wasn't I feel
Speaker 1: when Zinki was there wasn't one of his controversies that
Speaker 1: he was like using a ton of money to design
Speaker 1: his office. Yeah? Yeah, feel like that was where they're like, bro,
Speaker 1: you spent like two hundred thousand dollars on a table
Speaker 1: when you were in office, Like, yeah, it didn't he
Speaker 1: see Is he the guy that spent like a ship
Speaker 1: ton of money on a soundproof booth? Yeah he did that.
Speaker 1: He uh loved the mattresses from Trump Hotel and the
Speaker 1: pillows know that's Prue it, that's thought pruit Oh really
Speaker 1: yeah he's bad. And Scott Pruett is back. He's running
Speaker 1: in hoping we don't fucking we forgot the summer of
Speaker 1: scott When he's like, I have dry cleaning secret service.
Speaker 1: Put on the fucking sirens zinky was wow, Man, I
Speaker 1: don't I don't remember any of these motherfucker's from um yeah,
Speaker 1: the Trump administration. It's it's I mean, they were all
Speaker 1: fucking drifting. So it's just you know, choose your pick.
Speaker 1: Was it the guy who loved the fucking like what
Speaker 1: was it, uh, like the chocolates from some fucking place
Speaker 1: that he demanded people get. Or the guy who wasted
Speaker 1: money on a desk for his office who knows they're
Speaker 1: all the same? Um and birds of a feather. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is also a good picture because he's, uh, he's
Speaker 1: rocking the He's he's taking the approach to like being
Speaker 1: one with the people by trading in his chinos and
Speaker 1: trousers for really like um like blue jeans with a
Speaker 1: big belt buckle. But his shirts still tucked in like
Speaker 1: a business a business shirt tucked in. But hey, I
Speaker 1: grew up in the South. This is like this is
Speaker 1: formal where Yeah, but but I feel like this this
Speaker 1: is photo these are his photo op jans. Yeah, definitely definitely,
Speaker 1: where can people find you what the tweet You've been
Speaker 1: enjoying unnecessary travel? That's right, he was taking jets and
Speaker 1: helicopter rides and I'm just yeah, moving around, I'm tapping
Speaker 1: into teens like guys mode or I'm like, what were
Speaker 1: all the outrageous of this person? You can find me
Speaker 1: at Miles of Gray on Twitter and Instagram. You know
Speaker 1: about fiance, but do you know about Mad Boosties the
Speaker 1: Basketball Pack podcast that Jack and I do. If you
Speaker 1: don't come check it out because we're celebrating the NBA.
Speaker 1: And yes, I hear. I see your tweets. People like
Speaker 1: when you're talking about talking about the Mavericks, that's all.
Speaker 1: We're talking about everything, Okay, just when we have one
Speaker 1: show a week to do it in. But guess what
Speaker 1: we're talking about all that? Um, let's see some tweets
Speaker 1: that I like. First, one is from Stephanie Cook at
Speaker 1: Hello Cookie tweeted, shout out to the woman last night
Speaker 1: who asked me what I did and when I told
Speaker 1: her I wrote graphic novels for children, looked appalled and
Speaker 1: asked what kind of market there was for writing erotica
Speaker 1: for kids? Uh. Then another one at Chris Striss tweeted,
Speaker 1: my bitterly divorced grandparents who do not speak to each
Speaker 1: other are now sharing the same nursing home and don't
Speaker 1: know it yet. It's giving high jinks, it's giving sitcom,
Speaker 1: it's giving farce, it's giving laugh track. Um, and then
Speaker 1: one last one at helped me Skeletor tweeted the quote
Speaker 1: billionaires could end poverty. The response my brother in Christ,
Speaker 1: what do you think causes poverty? There you go. Let's
Speaker 1: see some tweets I've been enjoying ing um Adam serious
Speaker 1: brow tweeting tweeted a guy comes at me with a chainsaw,
Speaker 1: but I hold up a block of ice and rotate
Speaker 1: it until he's carved a cool sculpture. And another tweet
Speaker 1: I've been enjoying uh Zarena car tweeted, I used to
Speaker 1: draw the funk out of that sun in the corner
Speaker 1: of the paper when I was a kid. Um, just
Speaker 1: you have to draw so little of it. It's really
Speaker 1: it's true circle. Um. You can find me on Twitter
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