Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two thirty four,
Speaker 1: Episode one of Jodlishy Guys Say, production of I Heart Radio.
Speaker 1: This is the podcast where we take a deep dive
Speaker 1: into America's shared consciousness. Is Monday, April two, which I
Speaker 1: don't I don't even know what day it is today?
Speaker 1: What is April April is actually National Telephone Day? Hey,
Speaker 1: we love the telephone, donty, folks, I love the telephone.
Speaker 1: Do that sounded like Magarelli? Yeah, they're great. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: love it. And also East meets West Day. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure if that's uh what exactly that meets up more,
Speaker 1: but I think it has somebody's bold too cool. Um Okay,
Speaker 1: I can't hear the phrase eat East meets West like
Speaker 1: a racist. Movies have ruined it for me to the
Speaker 1: point that like I just hear the gong immediately after
Speaker 1: that exactly my uh, what's that? The key House of
Speaker 1: August Moon that one, or like Marlon Brando's The japan Ship, Yeah,
Speaker 1: which is like oddly enough because my mom is Japanese.
Speaker 1: She's like, I love him in that movie movie. I'm like, mom,
Speaker 1: racist shit, I know, just so sexy, and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: everybody fucked up. Well, my name is Jack O'Brien, a K.
Speaker 1: Jack O'Brien and Miles of Gray record podcasts every day,
Speaker 1: ten a week. Then they're brains, aren't um. On the
Speaker 1: weekends they sleep for fun. That's his courtesy of Christie.
Speaker 1: I'm gucci man. Shout out to him for appreciating the
Speaker 1: the work, the degree to which doing the show turns
Speaker 1: my brain into scrambled eggs. But y'all can y'all can
Speaker 1: hear that daily. But you've got two days to reform
Speaker 1: the eggs. Let's scramble them. Mom like just going to
Speaker 1: a hyperbaric chamber. Okay, my closet, just put all my
Speaker 1: dirty clothes over. Man, don't come out anyways. I'm thrilled
Speaker 1: to be joined as always buy My co host Mr
Speaker 1: Miles Grass said, take town with the nerve Batman, unless
Speaker 1: you like it, you wow. I started watching it at home.
Speaker 1: I didn't know it was three hours, so I had
Speaker 1: to positive the middle of it and feel like I'm
Speaker 1: gonna come back to inter mish. Gotta do a little
Speaker 1: inner mish. Yeah, I've been doing that a lot. When
Speaker 1: I watched Done at home, I had to take a second.
Speaker 1: I was like, hold, I need to eat something, Like course,
Speaker 1: I cooked dinner and then I finished done, having a
Speaker 1: day in between Batman feelings. But so far, pretty pretty,
Speaker 1: pretty noir. But I get the criticism so far, people
Speaker 1: like it was noir, but he could have been darker,
Speaker 1: and I can see that just first half yet, no
Speaker 1: your I have not watched yet. I did finally watch
Speaker 1: Everything Everywhere all at once in a packed house at
Speaker 1: eight thirty on a Thursday. I guess. So yeah, that
Speaker 1: movie and Hurt you. I really enjoyed it. I'm so
Speaker 1: glad I saw. I wish I had seen it sooner.
Speaker 1: I literally heard people like walking out of the theater,
Speaker 1: like like it was one of those ads for a
Speaker 1: Broadway musical where they like have the people being like
Speaker 1: that was great, the greatest movie I've ever seen. Like
Speaker 1: I literally heard a girl go that. I think that's
Speaker 1: my favorite movie ever of all time, Like just walking out.
Speaker 1: I was like, dude, Okay, that's what my mom she
Speaker 1: actually she did on Earth This picture of me and
Speaker 1: Jonathan k. Kwan. Wow, he is so fucking good in
Speaker 1: that movie. Really, but I again, that was what what
Speaker 1: a movie? Anyway? Yeah, well, Miles, we're thrilled to be
Speaker 1: joined in our third seat by a brilliant stand up comedian, writer,
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Speaker 1: It is Jackie Collegi. What's a hello? Hello, I'm so
Speaker 1: excited to be here with the two of you. Were excited.
Speaker 1: I saw your face light up when you mentioned everything everywhere.
Speaker 1: I loved that movie. I saw it last weekend and
Speaker 1: it was so good and I think it's okay. Well,
Speaker 1: first off, it was like my first movie in a
Speaker 1: long ass time, like being in a theater with people
Speaker 1: like there are people like chewing popcorn loudly behind me,
Speaker 1: and I was like, is this safe? Yeah? No, I
Speaker 1: I was. I went in being like, all right, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be worth the COVID and I wasn't. I wasn't wrong,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah it was. And I thought, man, I
Speaker 1: wasn't wrong because I got COVID and I got COVID.
Speaker 1: Everyone hey hey. But it's also like a great experience
Speaker 1: to see a movie like that in a crowd. I'm
Speaker 1: glad I didn't save it for streaming. Oh no, you
Speaker 1: had to see that in the theater for sure. Like
Speaker 1: there were moments. I mean, I loved it. It was amazing.
Speaker 1: I cried, I laughed. I like, I was, like I was.
Speaker 1: I forgot that that movies can invoke these emotions in you,
Speaker 1: because like, I think the last movie I saw in
Speaker 1: theater was like, I don't know something Marvel, and so
Speaker 1: I was just excited to see it and I love,
Speaker 1: like I've already decided that Wyman, I'm dressing up as
Speaker 1: him for Halloween. I can't I can't wait for the
Speaker 1: Fannie Pack. I'm going to go search the internet to
Speaker 1: find that exact little key chain. But yeah, I just
Speaker 1: I just loved it and I want to see it again.
Speaker 1: I actually think I might go back to the theater
Speaker 1: to watch it again, just to see more details and
Speaker 1: just uh yeah, such a fun movie. I'm glad Fanny
Speaker 1: Pack really made me feel seen. Yeah. Oh yeah, add dad,
Speaker 1: you see it's cool guys immediately there. Yeah, but but yeah,
Speaker 1: I think the magic of it is like I found
Speaker 1: myself getting overcome with emotion at things that aren't traditionally,
Speaker 1: Like on screen, You're like you got emotional when in
Speaker 1: the Racku Cooney part, and I'm like yeah, And I'm
Speaker 1: not with spoil ship because it's, like I said, you
Speaker 1: could never really describe this film out loud, and that
Speaker 1: ruined it for me because it's doing so many things
Speaker 1: at once. But I really like that one part where
Speaker 1: he was chasing out for Racon. Oh no, absolutely, Jeth.
Speaker 1: Where are you coming to us from. I'm I'm here
Speaker 1: from Oakland, California. What's up? Shout out to the shout
Speaker 1: out to the Bay Area. Um, I'm an East Bay girl,
Speaker 1: So I'm from Hayward but live in Oakland, and it's
Speaker 1: great out here. We finally have decent weather. We've been
Speaker 1: having rain lately. But I'm just excited that, like people
Speaker 1: are getting out and doing stuff and we're out here
Speaker 1: doing it just like Hairy season Cat. Just like, wait,
Speaker 1: I don't know what that means. I mean I do,
Speaker 1: but we gotta might not know what that means. So
Speaker 1: why don't you explain it to them? Jack, We're gonna
Speaker 1: we're gonna slam your car. Make sure that ship a scraper. Okay,
Speaker 1: Now we're hitting the Bay and taking A slideshow is
Speaker 1: when people like do donuts and stuff in the intersection.
Speaker 1: Must I must correct it as a side show, side show, yes,
Speaker 1: side not Yeah? Yeah, yeah, bad bad bad good God.
Speaker 1: I'm messing up my internet brain where I'm looking at
Speaker 1: pictures like start slide show and everything's a slideshow. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I gotta get it in, gotta gotta see it. An
Speaker 1: intersection shut down for a few minutes while somebody and
Speaker 1: a challenger is just sending smoke in there. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: they do it on the freeway we had there was
Speaker 1: a side show on the eight eight and it's hilarious
Speaker 1: because you can see you see the donuts, you see them,
Speaker 1: you know, so you know, anything is fair game. Intersections, freeways, bridges,
Speaker 1: you know, absolutely as long as you can hit it,
Speaker 1: you know, and you can you know, get the rotation
Speaker 1: and the tires, you're good to go. So yes, that's
Speaker 1: big culture. Though for sure, a side show is like, yeah,
Speaker 1: everybody wants to see it. They record them now they
Speaker 1: get caught up now because they tag themselves in it.
Speaker 1: It's so silly. I'm just like before you just witnessed
Speaker 1: it and be like y'all the sideshow and now it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: I got tagged with the cops got back at me,
Speaker 1: and it's like, what do you expect? I'm sorry that
Speaker 1: was your license plate, homie, Like black it out. At
Speaker 1: least you know we'll be taking video. There's etiquette, there's
Speaker 1: ways to carry oneself. So I didn't know that was
Speaker 1: a regional thing. That's like I've seen lots of videos
Speaker 1: of that happening, and like is that are are there
Speaker 1: like regional super dangerous things to do with your car
Speaker 1: like that? Oaklynn kind of owns that one. And then
Speaker 1: like another part of the world dirt bikes and ship
Speaker 1: right right, and the ghost riding? Was it that? I
Speaker 1: feel like that was there? It goes right in the
Speaker 1: just you could possibly do, right, I feel like, I mean,
Speaker 1: you don't tell me when to go. Gave people a
Speaker 1: decent imagination for you know, doors open, main yes, like
Speaker 1: many other you know, dangerous things you can do in
Speaker 1: a car, but fun all of it. There's instructions. Every
Speaker 1: song is a manual, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: you gotta listed it for how to accomplish it. You
Speaker 1: want to get up to some stuff, there's there's there's
Speaker 1: a whole map right there. So yeah, but I don't
Speaker 1: go no, no, no, I was I didn't know about
Speaker 1: Philly and dirt bikes. This is new to me. What
Speaker 1: is what? But you know, it's like there's a lot
Speaker 1: of laws there were there are a lot of black
Speaker 1: people who like to, you know, get pop wheelies on
Speaker 1: their dirt bikes and things like that. You see a
Speaker 1: lot of laws coming in like there's no wheelies or
Speaker 1: dirt bikes or whatever. And you know, every I feel
Speaker 1: like every every there is always going to be some
Speaker 1: regional thing where people are expressing themselves with motor vehicles.
Speaker 1: I just feel like that's just that's just how the
Speaker 1: American way is, whether that's you know, you see people
Speaker 1: rolling coal or fucking you know, hidden endos on a
Speaker 1: dirt bike. There's just America and engines and showing out
Speaker 1: is just the way of the country. I believe America America.
Speaker 1: All right, Jackie, we're gonna get to know you a
Speaker 1: little bit better in a moment. First, we're gonna tell
Speaker 1: our listeners a few of the things we're talking about.
Speaker 1: Some bad news for Kevin McCarthy and his mega cred.
Speaker 1: We're gonna listen to tape of him saying the president
Speaker 1: needs to the former president Donald Trump, needs to needs
Speaker 1: to get taken out of office. We are going to
Speaker 1: talk about a CDC doctor has issued a list of
Speaker 1: suggestions for how not to catch COVID on a flight
Speaker 1: where masks are now optional. So we're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: some of those pointers. We're gonna talk about Florida wanting
Speaker 1: to repeal Disney World's self governance and just no, no
Speaker 1: good side in that one. But we're gonna talk the
Speaker 1: history of their self governance, all that, plenty more. But
Speaker 1: before we do any of it, Jackie, we do like
Speaker 1: to ask Eric Guest, what is something from your search history?
Speaker 1: She's usually it's really embarrassing. Um, Honestly, my search history
Speaker 1: is how to spell certain words. It's literally like it's
Speaker 1: literally just needing to clarify. There's certain words that just
Speaker 1: tripped me up. And it's silly because it's things like
Speaker 1: it's a switch between the eye and the e or something.
Speaker 1: So my search history is just riddled with like how
Speaker 1: do you spell weird? Like stupid? Like I know how
Speaker 1: to spell it, but I just want to double check
Speaker 1: if I'm sending off this email to two and fifty people,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like there's just there's stress
Speaker 1: involved with some of the emails that I send out
Speaker 1: because I'm like promoting shows or I'm doing stuff for
Speaker 1: my day job, and I just want to clarify. So
Speaker 1: most of my search history is just Miriam Webster's fucking
Speaker 1: dictionary and like finding my way to that page to
Speaker 1: figure out how to spell it or even how to
Speaker 1: pronounce certain words. It turns out I'm public school educated.
Speaker 1: A number of words in my vocabulary have been mispronounced,
Speaker 1: and uh, that's embarrassing. Yeah pronouncing Okay, alright, alright that
Speaker 1: people checked me on in my oversea Yeah. Mr slide
Speaker 1: show up here, yeah, Mr slides. I was like, we
Speaker 1: gotta sit down and watch a slide show. Okay, before
Speaker 1: when I was saying old that I was doing old
Speaker 1: But anyway, that's all pre pre show stuff. Go on
Speaker 1: pre show stuff. Um, okay. So there was a hot second,
Speaker 1: maybe a number of years in my life when I
Speaker 1: pronounced gratuity, uh, gratituity, and it's terrible or not exactly
Speaker 1: they had to have been, I don't know. I was
Speaker 1: at dinner. We were right, we were at dinner. I
Speaker 1: was splitting the bill and I said, oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: wish we put down for gratituity, and my friends said,
Speaker 1: what the fun And to this day, to this day,
Speaker 1: they're like, what's up gratituity And I'm like, I g yeah,
Speaker 1: it gives you a little extra dance to do with
Speaker 1: your tongue in the middle. There gratituity, there's flair, there's
Speaker 1: flair thanking. You feel like you get a little bit
Speaker 1: of a show plus the tip, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So you did your research. You did your research in
Speaker 1: advance from I mean, I'm from southern California, so enough
Speaker 1: enough gets down to us from you know, he needs
Speaker 1: to research his enemy, you know. For this is so funny.
Speaker 1: It's true. Myles said, only love for the Bay, whereas
Speaker 1: Bay folks are raised to hate the southern California, especially
Speaker 1: l a area that's true historical. Look the hatch hetchy thing.
Speaker 1: Let's move past that, okay, please, you guys took the
Speaker 1: raiders for a minute. It was just, you know, there's
Speaker 1: just like a lot of stuff. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: there's a lot of beef, but it's apparently one side
Speaker 1: and it's just Bay folks that are like, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: but even then, like whenever I'm in the Bay, I
Speaker 1: get so much love. I'm like, it's always it's it's
Speaker 1: you know, it's like we're cousins, you know, and once
Speaker 1: the once a little ribbing is over, then we've we've
Speaker 1: we've come back together as being California people, exactly as
Speaker 1: you're not wearing a giant's head vice versa. Yeah you
Speaker 1: don't want Yeah, certain sports teams you just you don't
Speaker 1: want to. Yeah, I don't do it. It's not a
Speaker 1: good idea. And even out here there's certain sports teams
Speaker 1: you can't wear a certain you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's a it's a thing. People are very in love
Speaker 1: with their teams. Yeah, between like gangs or actual sports fans.
Speaker 1: Like you're like, I can't wear this astros how You're like, no,
Speaker 1: you cannot, you know, sir, not with that h No,
Speaker 1: not in this part. Yeah. So you've got to be
Speaker 1: thoughtful about how you carry yourself. How are you guys
Speaker 1: pronouncing uh the word B I O P I C
Speaker 1: these days? Because I have noticed I thought I thought
Speaker 1: we had I thought this was settled pronunciation, and I've
Speaker 1: noticed that it's actually more common to say it biopic.
Speaker 1: That's what I hear I hear biopic when I yeh biopic,
Speaker 1: which is what I said, like when I first pronounced
Speaker 1: it out loud, and then I was told like, come
Speaker 1: on man, it's it's about by it's a bio and
Speaker 1: a pick like it's biopic. And now more and more
Speaker 1: I'm hearing biopic, and I feel like this is trending
Speaker 1: in a direction of the Internet just being like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is just how we say it. Shut the funk up.
Speaker 1: Oh so we're like we're watching Gift turn to Jeff
Speaker 1: like that where someone annunciation wars. I think Jeff was
Speaker 1: the original intention of the guy who made it, and
Speaker 1: everyone was like, no, no, thank you, it's Gift. I
Speaker 1: I switched in and out of whatever. I feel like
Speaker 1: Jeff and Gift are just gonna stay. No one's going
Speaker 1: to agree on what it should be. It will be
Speaker 1: a generational thing. Someone's gonna go back in my day,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But I say I say biopic.
Speaker 1: I think biopics sounds silly. Bio I say, I don't know,
Speaker 1: biopics sounds weird. But I think there's more of an
Speaker 1: argument to say biopic because you wouldn't say you don't
Speaker 1: say biography biography. Wow, that's a great argument. And I
Speaker 1: feel like biopics sounds like it's a dental procedure to me,
Speaker 1: like biopic, yeah, yeah, like my medical quality, Yeah, something
Speaker 1: like that. Oh yeah. I think if I read myopic
Speaker 1: the word I would, I would pronounce it miopic. I
Speaker 1: don't know. There's certain words that I've pronounced weird. Um.
Speaker 1: At first time you said how do you say this?
Speaker 1: I thought you were saying by poc Like that's what
Speaker 1: I thought too, and I was like, it's actually, yeah, hey,
Speaker 1: so here's a quick question for you. Yeah he's saying
Speaker 1: this right now, Yes, exactly. And that's another thing to
Speaker 1: people say by poc to pronounce that. But I've heard
Speaker 1: people do, how do you pronounce it? I've said b
Speaker 1: I p OC like I've spelled it out, Okay, So
Speaker 1: I've heard it say it's like BIPOC business owners, BIPOC artists.
Speaker 1: I think it's at that point we get what, we
Speaker 1: know what we're saying. So I'm not gonna split hairs
Speaker 1: being like, is that that Tupac was experimenting with his
Speaker 1: love Like, I don't know what that is, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like it's every there's there are
Speaker 1: certain things too, like just in the pandemic, we haven't
Speaker 1: been around people to say these words out loud, like
Speaker 1: we read them a lot in the last couple of years,
Speaker 1: and then so now we're I feel like we're coming back.
Speaker 1: Then Okay, how are you saying this? How are we saying?
Speaker 1: Check in with you? Can I check in with everyone? Yeah? Yeah, exactly?
Speaker 1: What something do you think is overrated? Clubs? I think
Speaker 1: clubs are way overrated. And I don't know if that's
Speaker 1: my age speaking, but I went to a club this
Speaker 1: past weekend and it was annoying to me. I was
Speaker 1: so excited for this party. It was this awesome party
Speaker 1: in downtown Oakland, and like you know what it was.
Speaker 1: Everything was an up cell. So if you wanted to
Speaker 1: sit down, well you gotta you gotta buy, you gotta
Speaker 1: buy that section. Okay, well what about these tables? Oh
Speaker 1: that's for if you upgrade to like the hookah experience,
Speaker 1: you can get that. It was just like so monetized,
Speaker 1: and I was like, damn, like you really and then yeah,
Speaker 1: unless you had a section, there was no like dedicated
Speaker 1: dance for and I was like, you know what, all
Speaker 1: of this overrated? I could have been drinking at home,
Speaker 1: dancing my happy gass off at home. You know, a
Speaker 1: full bunch of furniture to sit on, no problem, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, places to like to sit down
Speaker 1: for a second after you've been dancing the whole night.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I was, and they were like, there
Speaker 1: were those bottle girls coming out with yes suck, and
Speaker 1: I was like, this is such this is such a scam.
Speaker 1: Like that's all it was. Like. I just I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's like I'm looking at it with new
Speaker 1: eyes or whatever, but I'm just like, scam, you know, like,
Speaker 1: there's no reason why this bottle of Don Julio needs
Speaker 1: to be three reason I can go across the street
Speaker 1: right now, somebody's gonna hook me up for maybe even
Speaker 1: then he's already marked it up, so you don't tell me.
Speaker 1: Everyone here, So I gotta say, sparklers not that expensive.
Speaker 1: More should be done, Like more restaurants should just be
Speaker 1: sticking sparklers and in their drinks. That it adds a
Speaker 1: lot of fun and we don't need to pay three fifty.
Speaker 1: Oh here comes the sizzling faheda pladders. Like that feels
Speaker 1: good because that ship's already like the Sparkler was. If
Speaker 1: you got the fiz platter with like a mark with
Speaker 1: that ship in it. Oh yeah, you're like, yeah, right now,
Speaker 1: the visual it is the visual equivalent of the sizzling
Speaker 1: feeda platter. And I feel like it's only been it
Speaker 1: hasn't like this, the potential has barely been touched. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's exactly because you're saying, like, I get that one.
Speaker 1: Like you said, with age, it does change. When I
Speaker 1: was twenty one, I would have been like, damn, I
Speaker 1: want to sit up over there that Oh that's just popping.
Speaker 1: Now that I have like bills and ship and like
Speaker 1: thinking about my future, I'm like, how the fuck I
Speaker 1: spend ten times what this thing caused to sit down
Speaker 1: on a dusty fucking pleather couch. No, that would rather
Speaker 1: be on a cruise, right, don't drag my old black
Speaker 1: man and her black man. I love a cruise. I
Speaker 1: know they're terrible, and I haven't been on on since
Speaker 1: seen but I'd be lying if I said I had
Speaker 1: something didn't come over me on a cruise ship. But
Speaker 1: all that to say, when it comes to clubs, yes,
Speaker 1: it is super fucking overrated, and I recently I went
Speaker 1: to a house party. That ship is still number fucking one.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Everybody says going to pulling up to
Speaker 1: a house or you hear the music blowing out through
Speaker 1: the front door and you open it and you get
Speaker 1: hit with smoke and bad breath and everything, and like
Speaker 1: spilled beer. You're like, yes, m here. And I was
Speaker 1: there with a bunch of people, like they're mid thirties
Speaker 1: and up, and we were like, this is this ship,
Speaker 1: this is free. There's no cover. Oh yeah, they're like
Speaker 1: three alcohol because other people brought it, and we're just
Speaker 1: bringing it all together and saying, hey, look we're coming
Speaker 1: together to celebrate that. That's I think that's actually a
Speaker 1: better feeling. That feels more like communal. Yeah, see someone's
Speaker 1: house that there's something fun about that too. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't drink anymore. I don't know if you could
Speaker 1: tell them, but I'm like, you get to see their
Speaker 1: family pictures. It's wonerful break sinc basin you bought yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah exactly, Yeah, interior decorating and inspiration. That's what I'm
Speaker 1: there for. I love a house party. You get to
Speaker 1: like meet the people, their friends, you get to have
Speaker 1: crazy long conversations with people about astrology and fucking I
Speaker 1: don't know your dreams and your hopes and ship like.
Speaker 1: And then of course you can get fucked up. You
Speaker 1: can smoke, you could do whatever you want. You can
Speaker 1: you cannot, you can be sober if you want, little
Speaker 1: with a guitar, you know what I mean. There's just
Speaker 1: so many things you could do. I I'm with you,
Speaker 1: Miles on that one. I would I would have rather
Speaker 1: been doing that. Nothing worse than being sober at a
Speaker 1: fucking club. That's fucking torture, Like, how could you stand
Speaker 1: to be in there? Because you have to be fucked
Speaker 1: up to think any of that ship's cool. I've alreably
Speaker 1: done that once. In the six years since I stopped drinking,
Speaker 1: Not not a single trip to a club could not
Speaker 1: interest me less somehow, Look, if there's something with my heart,
Speaker 1: we end up having to be in Vegas or something,
Speaker 1: We're gonna go in with a mike, you and me,
Speaker 1: stone cold sober and just observe people the whole time.
Speaker 1: To look at this, it would be hilarious. The ship
Speaker 1: people do the ship people do you know it's it's
Speaker 1: it's It would be so funny to watch it with
Speaker 1: sober eyes. Yeah, it can be embarrassing. Man, Oh awful,
Speaker 1: what what something you think is underrated? Okay, so I
Speaker 1: was going to say sleep, but that's so whack because
Speaker 1: it's like I'm not here being like club sucking sleep
Speaker 1: is the best. I can't be doing that. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: I think the things that I find under rated is this.
Speaker 1: I love TV, you guys, I'm obsessed with TV, and
Speaker 1: like I one of my favorite shows is this show
Speaker 1: called Resident Alien, and the fact that not everyone is
Speaker 1: talking about it makes me sad. And it's just a
Speaker 1: good show, and it's it's like, literally, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: Alan Tutick. Are you guys familiar with him Alan Tick? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean he's like a great character actor. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: a fucking beast. He's an amazing character actor. And this
Speaker 1: is this this role was meant for him. He literally
Speaker 1: is playing like an alien inside of a humans body,
Speaker 1: and he plays such the weirdest character and it's just
Speaker 1: a delight every time he comes on screen and processes
Speaker 1: the world around him. And it's anyway, it's a great show.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, this is totally like people are not
Speaker 1: talking enough about how cool this fucking show is and
Speaker 1: it's silly and it's feel good and I don't know
Speaker 1: if that's like the the two years of pandemic we've
Speaker 1: been going through, it's what I've needed. But yeah, there's
Speaker 1: some beautiful moments in the show, and yeah, no one
Speaker 1: is talking about it, and I'm like, please, please, somebody
Speaker 1: watch it so I can talk with you about it.
Speaker 1: I'm just reading the premise. So he's so an alien
Speaker 1: sent to White about humanity kills and takes on the
Speaker 1: identity of a vacationing pathology physician and then is asked
Speaker 1: to do an autopsy on the town's doctor who's died
Speaker 1: of unknown circumstances, and then like becomes like murder. She
Speaker 1: wrote alien murder, she wrote kinda, kinda yeah, and it's yea.
Speaker 1: There's also like a native storyline on top of it.
Speaker 1: So they're in this place called Patients, Colorado, that's where
Speaker 1: the scene is set, and then they're nearing a community,
Speaker 1: a native community. So it's really cool because they have
Speaker 1: native writers and Native actors on the show, and it's
Speaker 1: just exciting to like see Native representation, but not in
Speaker 1: a shitty Yellowstone Western type of cowboy movie. It's just
Speaker 1: like a cool show where it's like, oh, they're just
Speaker 1: native and that's that, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: it's just itself sadly is revolutionary. So it's it's just
Speaker 1: a breath of fresh air. And it's a really sweet story.
Speaker 1: And like I said, Alan Tude, he does hallucinogens in
Speaker 1: one of the episodes, Chef's Kiss, so fucking funny. He's
Speaker 1: not like a tiny alien piloting a body. He's just
Speaker 1: like alien who has taken on a human form. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: He has special DNA stuff that allows him to just
Speaker 1: take on the form quickly. So yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: That's that's the that's that's how they explain it in anyway.
Speaker 1: But it's a great show and I would love more
Speaker 1: people to watch it. And so that's totally underrated. You
Speaker 1: guys gotta watch it. It's funny. That sounds great. Underrated? Uh,
Speaker 1: like character to play it seems like is alien inhabiting
Speaker 1: human body like visiting Afrio in Men and Black is
Speaker 1: I think, in retrospect, one of the great performances of
Speaker 1: their time. Truly Sugar so good like he killed. I
Speaker 1: love those types of I love watching those kind of characters.
Speaker 1: They're so funny to me. But yeah, he killed it
Speaker 1: at that at that movie, and to this day, my
Speaker 1: family still quotes those sugar well that all that ship,
Speaker 1: Like there's so many quotes from his character in there,
Speaker 1: the yeah, amazing love it. Yeah. And then that's also
Speaker 1: like sort of the premise of every tilta Swinton character
Speaker 1: is that she is an alien like kind of inhabiting
Speaker 1: a human body or just like dropped dropped in here.
Speaker 1: So there's a whole whole career based on in his
Speaker 1: hanging off your Bones. She was also great whoever that was? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Who was like who was like the you know, pre
Speaker 1: eminent like redheaded actress performer who was like doing so
Speaker 1: many character parts. I know, I forget it and I'm
Speaker 1: so bad, but yeah, I just I can't have captain
Speaker 1: and keep talking about Vincent den Afria though, because his
Speaker 1: physical comedy too. There's like that one scene where he's
Speaker 1: like walking down He's like killing one moment guy and
Speaker 1: keep going. She kills me to this day, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is one of some of the best physical comedy
Speaker 1: and he's just walking down the street. Yeah beautiful, Yes,
Speaker 1: all right, let's take a quick break and we'll come
Speaker 1: back and talk about Kevin McCarthy. Yea, and we're back.
Speaker 1: And so Kevin, you you connected a dot for me, Miles,
Speaker 1: because like the trumple administration was such a blur that
Speaker 1: I had not associated Kevin McCarthy of late with Kevin McCarthy,
Speaker 1: the guy who delivered Trump red and pink starburst, because
Speaker 1: he heard those were his favorite in the early days.
Speaker 1: That's just like, yeah, so that's like a good arc
Speaker 1: that I didn't I didn't realize his comedic character head
Speaker 1: on this episode of the Office. So there we've seen
Speaker 1: the bromance right like you're saying. It started off. He
Speaker 1: comes to power, Kevin McCarthy's trying to get next to him,
Speaker 1: nuzzle up. He says, here's your candies. We go from
Speaker 1: there to Trump calling him Mike Kevin okay, like some
Speaker 1: kind of pillow or something. And they were just a
Speaker 1: matchmate in hell from the beginning. And McCarthy has regularly
Speaker 1: used his position as like speaker and minority leader to
Speaker 1: defend Trump, to fucking normalize all the bullshit. But it
Speaker 1: seemed like January six for a few Republicans. Right right
Speaker 1: after January six, you saw a few Republicans speak like
Speaker 1: they were like earthbound, like sentient beings who were like
Speaker 1: that was bad and we could never like McCarthy was
Speaker 1: talking spicy about it, and we saw that per second
Speaker 1: like oh maybe, but then we're like, now, these people
Speaker 1: are cowards. So back then, you know, we heard even
Speaker 1: reports of Kevin McCarthy was saying reportedly saying things like,
Speaker 1: you know, he's Trump should resign, or he's gonna he's
Speaker 1: gonna try and get Trump to resign, or like these
Speaker 1: other people in the caucus need to shut up with
Speaker 1: like their big live stuff. So the New York Times
Speaker 1: last week they published a story about how McCarthy was
Speaker 1: fucking talking slash working with Liz Cheney, who is like
Speaker 1: public Enemy number one in the Republican Party because she's
Speaker 1: like Trump is an abomination and we absolutely have to
Speaker 1: purge him from politics. Like that's just there's no there's
Speaker 1: nothing to do here. So they were saying that they
Speaker 1: have this reporting that him and Liz Chaney were talking
Speaker 1: very seriously on how to like to get figure out
Speaker 1: an off ramp for Trump and the party at large,
Speaker 1: and the article alleged that McCarthy was describing Trump's actions
Speaker 1: as atrocious and that he was trying to figure out
Speaker 1: how to use the twenty fifth Amendment to stop him.
Speaker 1: His office though, then comes out and forcefully denies it
Speaker 1: all like this is fake news. It's a total fabrication.
Speaker 1: We don't even know why they would even say something
Speaker 1: like that. Kevin McCarthy loves Donald Trump and even got
Speaker 1: him starburst. Can we move on? But what sad is
Speaker 1: it's like they didn't even read the fucking New York
Speaker 1: Times article where, you know, because what they're doing is
Speaker 1: they're quoting authors of an upcoming book about the j
Speaker 1: about January six. Were in the article. This says this
Speaker 1: according to taped conversations that the New York Times reviewed. Well,
Speaker 1: this wasn't sucking They weren't sucking around and being like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean we we know this happened. This is on
Speaker 1: fucking wax. So even though they said that denial came out,
Speaker 1: even though the article said they had it on wax.
Speaker 1: Then that fucking night the authors of this book go on,
Speaker 1: Rachel Maddow, drop the fucking tape. So here for your
Speaker 1: listening displeasure, here's someone almost doing the right thing as
Speaker 1: it relates to our fragile system. Live you on the phone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm here. Thanks. When when we were talking about the
Speaker 1: twenty five and moment resolution, Um, yeah, and you asked
Speaker 1: if if you know what happens if they get thereafter
Speaker 1: he's gone, is there any chance are you hearing that
Speaker 1: he might design? Is there any reason to think that
Speaker 1: might happen. I've had some huge discussions. My gut choled me. No. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm seriously thank you for having that conversation with him
Speaker 1: to I have to talk to him in a couple
Speaker 1: of days. Um, from what I know of him, I mean,
Speaker 1: you guys don't know him too. Do you think you'd
Speaker 1: ever back away? But what what I think I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do is I'm going to call him. This is what
Speaker 1: I think. Um, no one will pass the house. I
Speaker 1: think there's a chance of pass the same and even
Speaker 1: when he's gone. Um, and I think there's a lot
Speaker 1: of different amolications for that. Now. I haven't had a
Speaker 1: discussion with the them that if the get designed with it,
Speaker 1: that happened. Now, this is one personal feel I have. UM,
Speaker 1: I do not want to get in any conversation about
Speaker 1: Penn's party again. I mean, the only discussion I would
Speaker 1: have with him is that I think this will pass,
Speaker 1: and it would be my recommendation. You should be okay, wow,
Speaker 1: that's you know, you hear that they were scheming. They
Speaker 1: were like, Yo, how the fun are we gonna get this?
Speaker 1: Like so clearly they were talking about the twenty fifth
Speaker 1: Amendment and how to evoke that to try and oust him.
Speaker 1: But it's it's clear and and there was a moment
Speaker 1: where they were seriously trying to figure out what the
Speaker 1: options are. Now, this could get pretty ugly for McCarthy
Speaker 1: because as of this recording, we still haven't heard what
Speaker 1: Trump's responses, but I can't imagine it would be anything
Speaker 1: positive considering how he takes how he responds any perceived betrayal.
Speaker 1: He still thinks everybody's gonna just drop out of the
Speaker 1: race and nobody's gonna run against him if he decides
Speaker 1: to run, Like that's that's what he's like, Well, I
Speaker 1: give them. I gave them everything. They wouldn't be shipped
Speaker 1: without me, right, And they're like, do you know who
Speaker 1: you're talking to? Other greedy motherfucker's who don't give a
Speaker 1: funk about anything. You think you will give them something
Speaker 1: and they're gonna be like, you know what I'm gonna
Speaker 1: honor that because I'm an honorable fucking person. So it's
Speaker 1: clear right that there is a group of Republicans that
Speaker 1: see Trump as a threat. Whether that's to democracy or
Speaker 1: their own pursuit of power, that's a whole other issue.
Speaker 1: But to hear the double speak like of these calls
Speaker 1: where they're legitimately being like, how do we solve this?
Speaker 1: Do you think he'll resign? That this is this is
Speaker 1: not good, shows like, at the very least, the amount
Speaker 1: of fear that they operate in and are probably wanting
Speaker 1: to free themselves up. And there's only a few people
Speaker 1: who are willing to say I'm off this and then
Speaker 1: actually say no, I'm gonna stand out here and say
Speaker 1: I don't like this. They've been all just you know,
Speaker 1: destroyed politically, But we should see. The thing that I'm
Speaker 1: also pissed about is that world, this is another fucking
Speaker 1: book that's dropping revelations that would have been so much
Speaker 1: more effective in real fucking time, rather than be like,
Speaker 1: wait did I write a book about this? And oh wait,
Speaker 1: a fucking year in a half, almost right in between,
Speaker 1: right of the point that it could least impact him,
Speaker 1: because we're far away from the presidential election that he's
Speaker 1: probably the favorite to win and we're far away from
Speaker 1: the actual events. Good job. Imagine that tape coming out
Speaker 1: when they're when the impeachment trial is happening, and you
Speaker 1: have these Republicans being like, I don't think anything's wrong.
Speaker 1: They're like, oh, really, you're on a call with Liz Chane.
Speaker 1: He's talking about how do we do this right? That
Speaker 1: would have made it so hot for they would have
Speaker 1: only put the party into more disarray and they would
Speaker 1: have probably had, I don't know, figure out who was
Speaker 1: gonna win. But they backed off and we're here. I
Speaker 1: will say it didn't like it. It did feel a
Speaker 1: little bit like he was just saying like the tactical
Speaker 1: ship and there wasn't like a lot of judgment. They're like,
Speaker 1: I could see him getting getting out of this just
Speaker 1: by like scraping through him and being like like, granted,
Speaker 1: Trump is not going to be happy to hear that
Speaker 1: he was ever recommending that he resigned, But it feels
Speaker 1: less bad than I was hoping it would feel like
Speaker 1: for for McCarthy and Trump, this is the thing that
Speaker 1: the people get. These fucking authors are like, this is
Speaker 1: only the beginning. Of this stuff we have on tape, okay,
Speaker 1: and so they also there there's allusions to the fact
Speaker 1: that he was potentially trying to make sure that like
Speaker 1: people like Lauren Bobert, we're gonna get like just completely
Speaker 1: erased from Twitter for the stuff they were saying. He
Speaker 1: seems to have been saying that pretty forcefully on tape.
Speaker 1: But Carthy was, Yeah, I think at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, it is hard to know what really this
Speaker 1: would do. This far removed the real damage would have
Speaker 1: been done in real time when you have Trump who's
Speaker 1: already like on the way out, and then having to
Speaker 1: further like think of like, oh everyone's against me? What
Speaker 1: that may have catalyzed. But either way, it's clear that
Speaker 1: all of the all of the Republicans live in the
Speaker 1: fear of Trump, you know, SoundBite that would essentially just
Speaker 1: alter the path of their political career. And these these
Speaker 1: authors are New York Times reporters, are just who who
Speaker 1: do who do they work for? I just want to
Speaker 1: know who did subtract five democracy points from? But yeahs
Speaker 1: are Alex Alex Burns and Jonathan Martin, So yeah, I
Speaker 1: believe they are. You know, they're from the New York Times. Cool,
Speaker 1: good job, good job fellas sitting on that one. Ye
Speaker 1: nailed it. Yeah, but again this is just like you said,
Speaker 1: Trump thinks everyone is gonna make way, But when you
Speaker 1: look at all these things out there, there's a lot
Speaker 1: more open or ship leaking about people trying to figure
Speaker 1: out how to just get rid of this dude so
Speaker 1: they can have their own career. Now, Like, that's definitely no.
Speaker 1: But even the people who are the most magad out
Speaker 1: there are plenty who are like, Man, get this old
Speaker 1: motherfucker out the way so I can start running this ship.
Speaker 1: That's still very much happening. But how that's going to
Speaker 1: play out, I mean, we're still months away from seeing
Speaker 1: how those pieces end up moving. All right, Let's check
Speaker 1: in real quick with the c d C. You know,
Speaker 1: they got overruled by a single judge in Florida and
Speaker 1: that was apparently that was it. That's all she wrote
Speaker 1: for mass on planes and so what one of the
Speaker 1: CDC doctors did an interview with the l A Times
Speaker 1: where they just like gave some wreck mendations on like
Speaker 1: so let's say, all right, crazy hypothetical, but let's say
Speaker 1: you have to travel and you want to protect yourself
Speaker 1: against the most contagious variant of COVID to date that
Speaker 1: is still deadly to the immunocompromise and elderly. Like first
Speaker 1: some reason you're weird or some ship right, then there
Speaker 1: are some things you can do. So the CDC doctor says,
Speaker 1: you can get another booster if it's been four months
Speaker 1: since your last shot, which it's been four months since
Speaker 1: my last shot, and I didn't even realize I was eligible.
Speaker 1: So that's on my on my to do list. There's
Speaker 1: apparently something called EVW shelled, which I had never heard of,
Speaker 1: but it's a form of passive defense that can help
Speaker 1: protect you. Once again, I don't think that it's like
Speaker 1: a medication, a prescription medication, and that's something that they're
Speaker 1: this doctor was identifying as being helpful for your helpful
Speaker 1: to take if you're about to go on like somewhere
Speaker 1: where we might get exposed. So it's in somewhat limited supply.
Speaker 1: You gotta know someone, uh, somebody with health insurance, so
Speaker 1: you consult your doctor on that. One where a well
Speaker 1: fitting mask, which I think we all knew except for
Speaker 1: like of the population apparently all right, but these were
Speaker 1: these were the two interesting ones because I feel like
Speaker 1: they relate to Like, my main question is, Okay, if
Speaker 1: masks don't work, why the fuck am I not sick
Speaker 1: after every flight since I started wearing masks and was
Speaker 1: sick like you know, of the time after I traveled
Speaker 1: when I wasn't wearing masks, like in the pre pandemic times.
Speaker 1: So this doctor says, beware of layovers and transitions. The
Speaker 1: in flight air filter system is actually really good when
Speaker 1: you're cruising over ten thousand feet. The place we get
Speaker 1: sick is boarding, deplaning and in the airport because you're
Speaker 1: just around a shipload of people almost exclusively in doors,
Speaker 1: and that air is stagner. So that's just like that's
Speaker 1: when you want to be like really on your ship
Speaker 1: because you don't want to be yet in a crowd
Speaker 1: of people just being like yeah, very good to share
Speaker 1: the air and then drink with a straw because you can,
Speaker 1: you know, not take your mask off. If you do that.
Speaker 1: Get a window seat because it keeps you away from
Speaker 1: other people unless you're Mike Tyson and they just had
Speaker 1: to you know, passle you, and then sit towards the
Speaker 1: front and eat in the airport and not on the plane.
Speaker 1: And eat at a empty gate. So those are those
Speaker 1: are the little pointers I found that I found that helpful, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I'm already a window seat person. I didn't
Speaker 1: know about like the front of the plane being better.
Speaker 1: I didn't know about that part. Quicker, Yeah that's it,
Speaker 1: get off quicker, get on later if you can't dress, Yeah, sure,
Speaker 1: damn four months and and the booster now because no
Speaker 1: barely anybody's getting vaccinated. Like, hey man, if you need
Speaker 1: one good comp please please, please please, and have you shelled?
Speaker 1: See see thank you doctor for letting people they see.
Speaker 1: These are like pointers that the rich people get. Right
Speaker 1: if you shelled thing? That just sucked me up. I said, what,
Speaker 1: there's a fucking thing that you the doctor can give
Speaker 1: you know. There's also that medication that like reduces your
Speaker 1: chance like once you have it, the reduced your chance
Speaker 1: of like getting like seriously ill by like and we
Speaker 1: were like, oh, well that it's good. Then I'm like,
Speaker 1: I haven't heard much about it since then. I think
Speaker 1: that's a difficult to get to. Yeah, yeah, just like yo,
Speaker 1: like a lot of ship is difficult, you know, building
Speaker 1: an army from scratch. At the beginning of World War
Speaker 1: two was difficult, but they did that ship, and you know,
Speaker 1: let's let's give this a shot. We have the ability
Speaker 1: to cut people's chances of dying and going to the hospital.
Speaker 1: But I guess we need to treat. We need to
Speaker 1: trick the military industrial complex exactly, thinking that COVID is
Speaker 1: untapped land that has on it and then they will
Speaker 1: get their ship together and figure out like, oh we
Speaker 1: fucking COVID up then, But yeah, curious. Yeah, have you
Speaker 1: traveled recently, Jackie? I have not. My last trip was
Speaker 1: September of last year. I flew to New York City,
Speaker 1: wore the mask. I think I even had ninety five
Speaker 1: for a period of on the plane. It was kind
Speaker 1: of hard, but yeah, I was. I was very lucky.
Speaker 1: I went. I did a bunch of comedy shows, I like,
Speaker 1: did a lot of indoor activities, and I was totally
Speaker 1: COVID free. The fall was still kind of cool right there,
Speaker 1: right before Thanksgiving, where you could have done anything and anything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was looking the you know, the hands and the
Speaker 1: poll the poul you let people hold onto in the
Speaker 1: in the subway. I was like, I'm building my immunity.
Speaker 1: They taste so good. What are you going to do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: especially the ones that have like the gum stuck to
Speaker 1: them because you get a little spearment in there. Yes,
Speaker 1: exactly is the mood at comedy shows, Like, have you
Speaker 1: noticed any difference, like there are things changing or people
Speaker 1: figuring out how to act in public again, or I
Speaker 1: mean I think it's kind of like back out in
Speaker 1: the bay now things are kind of quote unquote back
Speaker 1: to normal. I'll be honest. I do a lot. I
Speaker 1: focus on a lot of outdoor shows. I do a
Speaker 1: lot of outdoor shows just to like lower the risk.
Speaker 1: And I'm actually like producing outdoor shows exclusively so you know,
Speaker 1: just to keep it. But like, folks are still gathering
Speaker 1: in clubs. You know, the clubs are booked. We've got
Speaker 1: lots of comics touring coming into the area, so it's
Speaker 1: kind of back to normal. There was a time when
Speaker 1: the shows I was producing, we would switch out microphone,
Speaker 1: so everybody got a disinfected microphone. Did make things kind
Speaker 1: of awkward because you literally have to like plug in
Speaker 1: the microphone before you get back, you know, before you
Speaker 1: get into your set. And then they were doing this
Speaker 1: is socially what we're called microphone condoms, and they would
Speaker 1: just like take this material and put it on top,
Speaker 1: and then everyone got their own. I don't know how
Speaker 1: effective they were, but I will say I like, I like,
Speaker 1: once the spyke happened with a maicron, like in what
Speaker 1: was it like December, I was like a lot of
Speaker 1: people were sick in the community, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I am not sharing a microphone with these fools, you know.
Speaker 1: So I dipped out of the shows for a good
Speaker 1: like four weeks just to like let things subside because
Speaker 1: it was kind of crazy. But yeah, it's back to
Speaker 1: normal now, i'd say. But like I said, I'm out
Speaker 1: here just being a little bit extracautious. I have a
Speaker 1: mino compromise family that I see regularly, so I'm focusing
Speaker 1: on the outdoor shows. But now I want to probably
Speaker 1: go back indoor again. So yeah, do you do you
Speaker 1: feel like the audience We've heard from comics saying like
Speaker 1: the audiences, you know, ready to laugh, some people saying
Speaker 1: they're they're like, you know, not ready to drink in
Speaker 1: public yet. What's your experience? But like the people who
Speaker 1: are going to comedy shows, I feel like I'm not
Speaker 1: saying they're risk takers, but I think they're like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm here for this, Like I need to laugh. It's
Speaker 1: been a minute, Like they're they're all for it. People
Speaker 1: are sitting next to each other, people are drinking and
Speaker 1: eating indoors. I think I think just because the Bayery
Speaker 1: was so staunch about it, we were one of the
Speaker 1: first ones in the country to do a shelter in place.
Speaker 1: It was early, like what was March six, I think
Speaker 1: was when they announced it. So I think like the
Speaker 1: people who want to go indoors are the ones who
Speaker 1: are just dying to go indoors, you know, They're just like,
Speaker 1: I want to be here entertain me. It's been a
Speaker 1: long time, yeah, but I think the audiences have changed
Speaker 1: a little bit. There's certain jokes that just I'm noticing.
Speaker 1: I'm like, is it me? Is it you? Like, there's
Speaker 1: just there's certain jokes that I used to tell pre
Speaker 1: pandemic that are just hitting slightly different. And maybe it
Speaker 1: has something to do with the shift in the American
Speaker 1: consciousness what happened and with the murder of George Floyd.
Speaker 1: Like there's a lot of jokes that like, I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 1: how is this spinning with people? How do they like it?
Speaker 1: You know, and there's just something changing. But I'm we're
Speaker 1: we're re emerging again out here, and I'm I mean
Speaker 1: people want to laugh, people want to get together, and
Speaker 1: people walking out right now. So we're giving them what
Speaker 1: they came for. And when I said, they're not ready
Speaker 1: to drink in public, and I mean like they're not
Speaker 1: prepared for behaving appropriately because they all just get ship
Speaker 1: hand like red wed and mean they don't want to okay,
Speaker 1: because I was like, they're yeah, they're yeah, they're demanding it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, let's take a quick break and we'll come
Speaker 1: back and talk about Disney And we're back. So is
Speaker 1: Disney World. It seems like a lot of people are
Speaker 1: going on there. I've heard from people who are back
Speaker 1: at Disney World. Disney did finally condemned Florida's so called
Speaker 1: Don't Say Gay bill after multiple protests some walkouts at
Speaker 1: the company, and that has prompted some truly deranged takes
Speaker 1: from the right, such as an hot ed on the
Speaker 1: Federalist urging people to boycott Disney World and instead visit Dollywood.
Speaker 1: That'll show them home of noted l g B t
Speaker 1: Q plus icon Dolly Parton, so got him got him folks.
Speaker 1: Ted Cruise claimed in his podcasts that I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't we don't need to tell you what Ted Cruise
Speaker 1: out on his podcast because there's probably on ven diagram
Speaker 1: overlap between our show and Ted Cruises. But he did
Speaker 1: claim that this will lead to Disney making content featuring
Speaker 1: Mickey and Pluto. Fucking he said, they're just going to
Speaker 1: be going at it. Jack use his conservative but like
Speaker 1: that he did. He did specify the characters making Pluto
Speaker 1: going at it, so like, alright, like that, I feel
Speaker 1: like that's something. I feel like that's something going on
Speaker 1: with you. Man. He keeps that whole quote is specific.
Speaker 1: Is he stepping in saying you know, in every episode
Speaker 1: now they're gonna have you know, Mike, Mickey and Pluto
Speaker 1: going at it? Like really, it's just like, come on, guys,
Speaker 1: these are kids, and you know you could always shift
Speaker 1: to Cinemax if you want that. What the fund do
Speaker 1: you think is on Cinemax? First of all, and second
Speaker 1: of all, someone needs someone needs to check his search
Speaker 1: history because about him. Yeah, an incident, right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he liked what was it he liked to tweet from
Speaker 1: like a yeah, he just like pornographic tweet or whatever attact,
Speaker 1: and they chose to use my incredibly powerful platform to
Speaker 1: like a tweet from a porn at Pluto is just
Speaker 1: funny to me because it's like, wasn't Goofy, wasn't Donald?
Speaker 1: You want Pluto early? Getting in early? It's the specificity. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's he's had that thought quietly before he set it
Speaker 1: out loud Ron de Sant. Just meanwhile, I was trying
Speaker 1: to repeal a law that gives Disney the right to
Speaker 1: self governance theme park, which a lot of outlets have
Speaker 1: been writing about. He's been threatened to do that for weeks.
Speaker 1: And the question like so, yeah, this is all fucked up,
Speaker 1: Like it's funked up that it took Disney as long
Speaker 1: as it did, and then that this backlash like it's
Speaker 1: just well, okay, we live in a hell world. But
Speaker 1: the fact that Disney governs itself in Florida is like
Speaker 1: such a such a strange detail. So our writer JM
Speaker 1: kind of went into the history of that and apparently
Speaker 1: Walt Disney, you know, just using his imagineering ability and
Speaker 1: just like his ability to have a vision and just
Speaker 1: like child use childlike wonder to bring it together in
Speaker 1: nine five, he hired multiple lawyers who were never aware
Speaker 1: that the shell companies they were working for all belonged
Speaker 1: to Disney, and they all started buying up land right
Speaker 1: around each other so he could get it at a
Speaker 1: good price, which like that's just shrewd, but it's just
Speaker 1: funny that, like we're like Walt Disney, the names synonymous
Speaker 1: with childlike wonder and imagination, and he's like out here,
Speaker 1: like all right, if this person finds out you're a
Speaker 1: lawyer who worked for Disney, I'm going to have to
Speaker 1: kill you. So just shut the funk up, get the
Speaker 1: deal done. So they they were buying it up for
Speaker 1: what they called at the time Read Creek Improvement District.
Speaker 1: Once they put it together became its own municipality. It
Speaker 1: has the same authority and responsibility as a county government. This. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Disney is responsible for sewage, roads, building permits. If they
Speaker 1: want a liquor license, they have to apply for one
Speaker 1: to themselves, and service like water and waste management are
Speaker 1: paid for through taxes that Disney pays to Ready Creek,
Speaker 1: who then give the money back to Disney because it's
Speaker 1: all Disney. Yeah, so this gives them just an unparalleled
Speaker 1: ability to shape the park environment without government oversight. So
Speaker 1: it's very very strange. This is insane the fact that
Speaker 1: they charge as much as they do, knowing all this
Speaker 1: ship like the prices that Disney should be like Costco,
Speaker 1: like this would make at least makes sense if if
Speaker 1: it was like and our hot dogs are two dollars,
Speaker 1: and you know you can buy a whole roadtistry chicken
Speaker 1: for three dollars like that, like us use the fact
Speaker 1: that you don't pay taxes to anyone, accept yourself to
Speaker 1: like do something for but instead they just now they're like,
Speaker 1: what if we have like, uh, planned housing, like low
Speaker 1: income housing for like people And you're like, no, you're
Speaker 1: just trying to save fucking money. You're not doing anything
Speaker 1: novel or altruistic. Shut the funk up. And I think
Speaker 1: that's the pattern here. But what's the thing is even
Speaker 1: this talk of like trying to dissolve that as a
Speaker 1: threat has the outcomes are going to be so fucked
Speaker 1: up for the people that live around there because all
Speaker 1: of that like financial responsibility then goes to the two
Speaker 1: counties that this that this improvement district is housed in,
Speaker 1: so people potentially will be looking at like over two
Speaker 1: thousand dollars more in in fucking like taxes they would
Speaker 1: have to pay to offset Disney leaving. So it's like
Speaker 1: there's every there's like nothing about this that works. Like
Speaker 1: so many people even in like in the area, like
Speaker 1: this won't help anything. In fact, we're going to have
Speaker 1: to pay for it because they have the revenue to
Speaker 1: cover their tax bill and their services. We can't now
Speaker 1: suddenly flip that bill. But this is crazy, Like the
Speaker 1: public sector, the amount like the responsibilities of different cities
Speaker 1: and count I work, My day job is in the
Speaker 1: public sector, and it's just like crazy to assume that
Speaker 1: there's like this corporation Disney that like has its own town.
Speaker 1: It's essentially a company town, you know, and they get
Speaker 1: to dictate all the costs. There's just like so much
Speaker 1: power in doing that. And in the public sector you
Speaker 1: have like requirements to ensure that public funds are using
Speaker 1: a certain way. Obviously not everybody does it as they should.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of corruption. But I can only imagine
Speaker 1: just knowing how hard it is when people are looking
Speaker 1: and paying attention what's going on. When you are your
Speaker 1: own municipal, you know what the municipality, what happens when
Speaker 1: you are like, I just it just it just screams.
Speaker 1: There's crazy stuff happening together the hood. About the puzzle
Speaker 1: public safety down there, Jack, Yeah, so the Red Creek
Speaker 1: Fire Department has been dealing with significant staff ortages since
Speaker 1: the pandemic, and apparently, you know, they haven't added emergency
Speaker 1: workers in the fire department since nine Recently, somebody died
Speaker 1: of a heart attack in Magic Kingdom because the fire
Speaker 1: department was putting out I don't know, like a fake
Speaker 1: fire somewhere, maybe a real fire, but they were they
Speaker 1: were otherwise occupied by I think they caught Mickey and
Speaker 1: Pluto fucking in the bushes and yeah, I had to
Speaker 1: hose him down. It was getting too hot in there.
Speaker 1: And just speaking about like the surrounding counties, Ready Creek
Speaker 1: swooped in and one fifty seven million dollars in government bonds,
Speaker 1: which nearby Orange County wanted to use to build affordable housing.
Speaker 1: Ready Creek used the money to upgrade Disney sewage system.
Speaker 1: Have you guys seen the Florida Project mm hm hm.
Speaker 1: I highly recommend that that's about a like motel where
Speaker 1: like impoverished Americans are basically living but it's right and
Speaker 1: store to Disney World, and it's just it's a it's
Speaker 1: an awesome movie. And also like kind of about this
Speaker 1: or takes place in the midst of this. It's really
Speaker 1: fucking crazy. But yeah, an expert believes that, like the
Speaker 1: whole thing is trying to take away their powers is
Speaker 1: basically politically impossible, and that makes sense. Most people have
Speaker 1: like who looked at the like how to dissolve this
Speaker 1: special tax district? It would apparently require a majority vote
Speaker 1: from residents and landowners in the district, considering how many
Speaker 1: employees worked there too. I don't know if they'd even
Speaker 1: have the space for that, especially if the people, the
Speaker 1: residents in that area, you know that the tax burden
Speaker 1: would suddenly fall on them if this is dissolved. So
Speaker 1: it's all a theater and I think that's why. Another
Speaker 1: thing that people point out is whow this has been happening?
Speaker 1: The Santis has been up to so much other ship
Speaker 1: that's really fucked up. You know, this new jerrymanderd map
Speaker 1: that essentially just vaporized these black congressional districts and robbed
Speaker 1: Black Floridians of representation because they just lumped them in
Speaker 1: with these new Republican districts and then recently like another
Speaker 1: anti trans bill. So it's like, because you know, like
Speaker 1: there's a lot of this stuff, there's always some there's
Speaker 1: so many things happening, and like you said, like you know,
Speaker 1: Steve Bannon's thing, flood the zone with ship, you can't
Speaker 1: keep tracking anything. They flooded the zone with ship. But
Speaker 1: these other things that are happening are black Floridians are
Speaker 1: losing their representatives in Congress, and you know, we're we're
Speaker 1: enacting more like transphobic violent bills like in the state
Speaker 1: as well. But I get it Disney. Disney just captures
Speaker 1: the culture more because like what the funk is this?
Speaker 1: But there's other real consequential ship happening too at the
Speaker 1: same time. Yeah, Florida is so interesting. I have to say,
Speaker 1: I've never been there before, but I'm not like ready
Speaker 1: to run over to Disney in Florida, Like I don't know,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm there's just so much happening there, but I
Speaker 1: do have to go experience it because I think, especially
Speaker 1: out here in California, people have a lot of thoughts
Speaker 1: about other places, but we really need to go there
Speaker 1: and see what it's about. But yeah, I mean, and
Speaker 1: it's there. The state leadership can be one thing, but
Speaker 1: the people they're completely different and totally unfortunately are The
Speaker 1: way a lot of Americans look at things is we
Speaker 1: just look at people based on their their leadership in
Speaker 1: the state and then determine whether or not we funk
Speaker 1: with them based off of that. Like, it's the same
Speaker 1: thing when a lot of fucking itty, just dumb liberals
Speaker 1: were like, oh, I'm so glad to see Texas completely
Speaker 1: freeze over. They deserve it because they're going to have it,
Speaker 1: and you're like, no, no, no, man, like, don't don't
Speaker 1: fucking don't lose track of the fact that, like, human
Speaker 1: beings are everywhere and we have to figure that out.
Speaker 1: But yeah, why go to a state where they're invested
Speaker 1: so much in like doing harm to people that are
Speaker 1: like me and you know, don't give a funk about
Speaker 1: other people's humanity. Yeah, that's not a great feeling, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: is there you hope on the Jerrymander mapp or he
Speaker 1: can just do that and call it call it a day.
Speaker 1: M I believe he can call it a day. I'm
Speaker 1: sure there's there's going to be litigation I'm not sure
Speaker 1: who's going to adjudicate that, but at first it seemed
Speaker 1: like it wasn't going to be able to pass. But
Speaker 1: I know the legislature's I'd have to fully look into it.
Speaker 1: But yeah, when you look at how much energy is
Speaker 1: invested in completely changing these maps to like ensure a
Speaker 1: state is just going to go one way every single election,
Speaker 1: then it's you know, they spend a lot of energy
Speaker 1: making sure it stays like that. Well, fortunately Florida judges
Speaker 1: really seemed to be on the up and up and
Speaker 1: killing it recently, so we we might have some respite there.
Speaker 1: Oh wait, now they're they're trying to kill us. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: Jackie has been a true pleasure having you on t
Speaker 1: d Z. Where can people find you? Follow you all
Speaker 1: that good stuff? Yeah, please follow me um at Jackie Comedy.
Speaker 1: I'm on Instagram, Twitter, all of the things, and yeah,
Speaker 1: I would I would love to share an event that
Speaker 1: I have coming up here in the Bay. So if
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Speaker 1: It's a native comedy show that I've been producing for
Speaker 1: a couple of years now, and we have a live
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Speaker 1: going to be super fun. It's an outdoor event, so
Speaker 1: folks are nervous about that. It'll be fun and you
Speaker 1: can get all the details on the Oakland Museum website
Speaker 1: at museum see a dot o RG. So, thank you
Speaker 1: so much for having me. This has been a pleasure.
Speaker 1: You guys are awesome coming back. Thank I got to
Speaker 1: have you back having you And is there a tweet
Speaker 1: or are some of the work of social media you've
Speaker 1: been enjoying? Yes? Where is it? Oh my god, this
Speaker 1: is so embarrassing. Um, I've just been following a lot
Speaker 1: of Killing Eve right now. I told you I love
Speaker 1: TV shows. Are you guys watching Killing Eve? I'm I
Speaker 1: still needed How many scenes are there in four? Now?
Speaker 1: This is the fourth and final? Yeah, so I've I
Speaker 1: just started three. Okay, well, Miles, they just dropped like
Speaker 1: the last episode, like a couple of weeks ago. I'm
Speaker 1: not going to ruin it for folks, but that's been
Speaker 1: Those are the tweets that I've been following incredibly closely
Speaker 1: because the fan base has a lot of thoughts about
Speaker 1: the ending, so if anyone's listening from killing you you
Speaker 1: you didn't give us what we deserve. God damn it.
Speaker 1: I have thoughts. I have lots of thoughts. So anyway,
Speaker 1: this is a tweet that I love about a moment
Speaker 1: that we could have shared on screen and we didn't.
Speaker 1: So anyway, I will I will share that with you all.
Speaker 1: Miles Where can people find you with a tweet you've
Speaker 1: been enjoying? Find me Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray.
Speaker 1: Also where else you find me for twenty day Fiance
Speaker 1: the you know, obviously we were talking ninety day Fiance
Speaker 1: check us out over there. And also Jack and I
Speaker 1: Basketball podcast Mad Boost these official NBA show, so come
Speaker 1: check that out where we talk. You know, I'm just
Speaker 1: just talking talk about our favorite favorite basketball games, our
Speaker 1: favorite basketball games, favorite basketball games, and yeah we're talking
Speaker 1: about the playoffs. Was yo? Any words? You know, miked up,
Speaker 1: literally every miked up to try and pull the good
Speaker 1: ones out, so even you know, so come by NBA
Speaker 1: players are very funny out of the time. The tweet
Speaker 1: I like is from Alex Dobrenco at do Bronx with
Speaker 1: a z tweeted therapist, what's your attachment style? Me, I
Speaker 1: don't know pdf. Oh my god, I've learned so much
Speaker 1: about you right now, Miles a boy that you you know,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, I'm you know, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: do with my own intimacy and attesting issues. And there
Speaker 1: I love it. All right, Let's see, I've been enjoying
Speaker 1: a tweet from soul Nate m Nate Shamalan tweeted a
Speaker 1: m MPM Stanford approaching Malone and post malone, respectively, and
Speaker 1: Zach You tweeted earth stay just feel sarcastic at this point,
Speaker 1: which kind of do? Oh? And then I this is
Speaker 1: a thing that I think it really sums up what's
Speaker 1: wrong with American capitalism, like one of twenty things, but
Speaker 1: like a very important point that doesn't get brought up
Speaker 1: that much. Yell in a War tweeted my only Netflix
Speaker 1: stock take is that maybe it isn't actually smart to
Speaker 1: base our entire financial system on the belief that everything
Speaker 1: needs to grow constantly forever to have any value. That
Speaker 1: is has been a constant thought I've had every time
Speaker 1: I've done something worthwhile. And then you you have the
Speaker 1: meeting with the business side and they're like, all right,
Speaker 1: so how do we grow this. How do we ten
Speaker 1: x this? What's the scalability here? It's just like, what
Speaker 1: the funk are you talking right now? As it is? Right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So how do we scale it up? What do we do? Uh?
Speaker 1: How do we put an s and a dollar sign
Speaker 1: at the end of that bad? Old man? I don't
Speaker 1: know if I passed down through generations of taking ship
Speaker 1: from other people? But do you hear that sucking? Stop?
Speaker 1: Do you hear that sucking? That's that's the hole in
Speaker 1: the middle of my uh where where a soul should go? Anyways,
Speaker 1: you can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien.
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Speaker 1: think people? Man, We're gonna do more ghost Culture okay,
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Speaker 1: do you like that ghost Culture track? Well, you thought
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Speaker 1: ghost Culture. No, not not like this. This is a
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Speaker 1: and this track is called Mouth and again very interesting
Speaker 1: electronic just track. I just like the way this song
Speaker 1: builds and has like really kind of haunted vocals on it,
Speaker 1: but it's just I don't know, like I've found myself
Speaker 1: like even it just like Ninth Head not do it
Speaker 1: so again this is by ghost Culture. Alright, well go
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