Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season two thirty four,
Speaker 1: Episode two of a production of I Heart Radio. This
Speaker 1: is a podcast where we take a deep dive into
Speaker 1: America's share consciousness. It's Tuesday, April, which of course means
Speaker 1: that is National Pretzel Day, making thirsty, making me thirsty. Indeed, pretzels,
Speaker 1: I do. I love pretzels. I like a pretzel crisp.
Speaker 1: I like a pretzel, small pretzel. I'm not as big
Speaker 1: on the big fat Doughey h Street Street pretzels of
Speaker 1: some some like molten cheese. Yeah, I think I I
Speaker 1: ate too many of them without a nut cheese or
Speaker 1: anything except mustard. And but yeah, I'm just I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not real Philly. I've never claimed to be real Philly,
Speaker 1: you know. Okay, well, you know it's funny that I
Speaker 1: wouldn't get off my back, all right, man, I'm not
Speaker 1: real Philmy holy sh it, dude, that's I remember, just
Speaker 1: like the first time I would have them, you know,
Speaker 1: like it's like eighties snacks. Snacks stand always had to
Speaker 1: have that like rotating fucking glass thing with like dried
Speaker 1: up pretzels on them, with like salt chunks the size
Speaker 1: of fucking like tennis balls on them, but all those
Speaker 1: are always so like dry and not fresh that for
Speaker 1: the longest time, I'm like, man, if that's what a
Speaker 1: fucking pretzels bucked that? Until I had like a proper one,
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I like this. I like pretezel
Speaker 1: and I don't want to shout out the company that
Speaker 1: probably lobbied to make this a national national pretzel day,
Speaker 1: but Anti Ann's I think I still think anti Ans
Speaker 1: is behind it. Probably I mean massive corporation, Yeah, big wetzel. Um,
Speaker 1: What's I do? I do love a loving anti Ans.
Speaker 1: So I'm sure a lot of people don't think I'm real,
Speaker 1: real pretzel gang. But don't worry. I'm fine with that.
Speaker 1: Don't worry. I'm not gonna pull your card anyways. My
Speaker 1: name's Jack O'Brien. A K. Earth Day was the worst day.
Speaker 1: Now I hit bamboo when I'm thirstday as courtesy a
Speaker 1: Walter Chestnut talking about those soggy as paper straws um, wow, clever, clever,
Speaker 1: well done, Walter Chestnut, and I'm thrilled to be joined
Speaker 1: as always buy my co host Mr Miles grab Oh weh.
Speaker 1: I smell just like Little Caesar's oh, drop my pizza
Speaker 1: on the floor. I don't care about that ship anyway.
Speaker 1: I'm too high for that. All right. Shout out to
Speaker 1: Grand Rapidity and Willie on the Discord who attached this
Speaker 1: uh wonderful a k a. With the Weezer Blue album.
Speaker 1: But they're dressed up like they work at Little Caesar's,
Speaker 1: and Little Caesar's mascot is in it, and it says
Speaker 1: Caesar's wee ser um. I appreciate that. I appreciate the
Speaker 1: art direction. Come with a case. Yeah, it was a
Speaker 1: lot of textures. You know, it's more than just words.
Speaker 1: It's it's a feeling, it's a it's a multiverse if
Speaker 1: you will. Was that a reference to an event from
Speaker 1: your life? Dropped dropping the pizza? And still you don't know?
Speaker 1: I think maybe this meme inspired it. They know I
Speaker 1: love Little Caesar's, you know, I like PM Local. You
Speaker 1: know I'm done with my crazy bread all the time.
Speaker 1: So I don't know, you know, I'm I'm not mad.
Speaker 1: And also I love Boddy, I love the Buddy Holly Treck,
Speaker 1: I love that track, the guitar solo. It's really just
Speaker 1: that one, like going that ship. Okay, wow, um, I
Speaker 1: mean it is a good It is a good part
Speaker 1: just you. I don't usually get that energy from you
Speaker 1: over a track that like is you know, mainstream Jack.
Speaker 1: If you could have seen me in oh seven Guitar
Speaker 1: Hero came out, I'm playing my name is Jonas on
Speaker 1: X Hurt, I'm like, I have tears in my eyes
Speaker 1: and You're like, dude, this guy's sucking up bad right now.
Speaker 1: Uh Well, Miles Weird thrilled to be joined in our
Speaker 1: third seat by one of our favorite all time t
Speaker 1: DZ guests, a very funny stand up comedian, writer, podcaster, producer.
Speaker 1: Her stand up album opingon Cave debut at number one
Speaker 1: on iTunes, and the podcast Lady to Lady is just
Speaker 1: one of the best out there. She's performed everywhere from
Speaker 1: a basement in Kentucky to the stages of the Kennedy Center.
Speaker 1: Please welcome the talented and hilarious Brandy Posey. Oh hey, guys.
Speaker 1: I've been quietly sitting here just like they're talking about pretzels.
Speaker 1: They're talking about so many things I have opinions about,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna be a good guests. And then I
Speaker 1: just yelled wetzel and I broke. I broke my professionality.
Speaker 1: I was like, no one's saying, wet cell I'm here
Speaker 1: for the people at home that our wetzel heads, and
Speaker 1: I just wanted to get it in there, are you,
Speaker 1: big wet wetzell? I love, I love, I love all
Speaker 1: soft pretzels. So so I went to I actually went
Speaker 1: to college in Philly and from Maryland. Originally went to
Speaker 1: college in Philly, and I went to film school, and
Speaker 1: I catered all of my films, all my film sets.
Speaker 1: But because I couldn't sleep the night before shooting anything,
Speaker 1: so at four in the morning every day, I would
Speaker 1: go to like one of the soft pretzel factories and
Speaker 1: get a giant box of soft pretzels for like five
Speaker 1: dollars and just like a big thing of mustard and
Speaker 1: think that was the only food on my sets and
Speaker 1: cote but that it was not fresh, fresh case of pretzels,
Speaker 1: fresh case of pretzels, because you could go straight to
Speaker 1: the factory, like right when they were making them. It
Speaker 1: was the old, weird factories in Philly that just smelled
Speaker 1: like soft pretzels. Like a little old man, like the
Speaker 1: one old man that made the pretzels would just like
Speaker 1: open this door if you knocked at the right time,
Speaker 1: and you just bring you a big, old like cardboard
Speaker 1: box of pretzels. The most Philly I've ever felt in
Speaker 1: my life. And yeah, do you do you feel like
Speaker 1: they are superior to other soft pretzels? Like my dad,
Speaker 1: who's from Philly, grew up in Philly, will like, if
Speaker 1: we're near anywhere near Philly, he wants to he wants
Speaker 1: to stop through and pick up an inordinate number of
Speaker 1: soft pretzels. I think if you're getting them right when
Speaker 1: they are fresh, then they're they're unbeatable. But you know,
Speaker 1: they also because they don't have a lot of preservatives
Speaker 1: in them and stuff like, they do get funky pretty
Speaker 1: quickly the rest of the day. So you know, if
Speaker 1: you can get them like hot off the presses, it's
Speaker 1: a great pretzel. Otherwise an Antian's or a wetzel because
Speaker 1: they just like dunk that ship in butter and whatever.
Speaker 1: It's fine. Yeah, that's what I'm here for. Butter. Most
Speaker 1: bread of any kind dunked in butter, I'm pretty good with.
Speaker 1: I like, like an olive garden breadstick. Yeah, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: all perfect local. We're all we're all well come, we
Speaker 1: will come from the same tree. I didn't realize Philadelphia
Speaker 1: the average Philadelphi in consumes about twelve times as many
Speaker 1: pretzels as a national average. Damn that that tracks that.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're likely what happens if four all right,
Speaker 1: hit the hit the fucking fresh spot real quick? Have
Speaker 1: that my set food? Yeah? It makes sense. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean Philly is like, doesn't mess around. You got
Speaker 1: you got great pizza, you got great cheese steaks, You've
Speaker 1: got pretzels, there, you got rosies. That's just there's what
Speaker 1: do you think? Okay, so Philadelphia they probably more pretzels.
Speaker 1: What do you think New Yorkers need more pizza? Average?
Speaker 1: Probably pizza, although I thought more halal. I've had more
Speaker 1: halal than than pizza, and New York I think more
Speaker 1: street meat than is both uh you know, common in
Speaker 1: America and also advisable by the National uh yeah Street
Speaker 1: Meat Association. Yeah yeah, and then they're like oh no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no yeah, and then street tacos out here probably right, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that feels like something just in general, because
Speaker 1: our tacos are so good, like passively, you can just
Speaker 1: it's it's not an offensive meal. All right, Brandy, we're
Speaker 1: going to get to know you a bit better in
Speaker 1: a moment. First, Uh, we're gonna tell our listeners a
Speaker 1: couple of the things we're talking about today, such as
Speaker 1: we're just gonna do a little mega heat check grab
Speaker 1: bag check in with um all the all the popular characters. Um,
Speaker 1: we are gonna take a look at the CNN plus
Speaker 1: uh clusterfuck like that, you know just fell apart so fast,
Speaker 1: like it fell apart like an unsheathed Philadelphia pretzel. That's
Speaker 1: you know, just went bad within days. Uh. So we'll
Speaker 1: talk about that. We'll talk about, um, the multiverse, why
Speaker 1: are why are people? Have you guys heard about this thing?
Speaker 1: Have you seen this? The numbers one version of myself
Speaker 1: has heard about it. Yeah, there you go. Um all
Speaker 1: the other multiverses or have seen it and are over it.
Speaker 1: We're behind the curve, I think. Um. And then we're
Speaker 1: gonna talk about uh Broadway, Broadway, all of that plenty moore.
Speaker 1: But first, Brandy, we do like to ask Eric guest,
Speaker 1: what is something from your search history? Um? So, the
Speaker 1: new the newest season of of Forged in Fire has
Speaker 1: dropped episodes on Hulu, and there's a new host, uh
Speaker 1: controversially new host the first time in seven eight seasons,
Speaker 1: second host of all time on the show. His name
Speaker 1: is Grady Powell, and I needed to know who the
Speaker 1: hell less man was because I loved the old host
Speaker 1: because he was a horrible host to the point he
Speaker 1: had zero charisma, to the point that he was extremely
Speaker 1: charismatic by the end because he just like was so
Speaker 1: bad at it and this new guy has too much
Speaker 1: confidence to fall into that category. UM So I just
Speaker 1: needed to know who the hell this guy was. Turns
Speaker 1: out he's a former Green Beret, so I am scared
Speaker 1: of him, but uh, talk that ship. Let let him know.
Speaker 1: You got zero catchphrases yelling at people like we're still
Speaker 1: in the army, you're unforged in fire. Oh gosh, yeah,
Speaker 1: former green beret. Yeah, it's a lot. It's a lot
Speaker 1: all the other because all the other like the judges
Speaker 1: are very fun and like sweep, but he just comes
Speaker 1: in with this like drill instructor attitude and I'm just
Speaker 1: like not here for it, and I'm gonna give him
Speaker 1: a season to see what happens. But like it's that
Speaker 1: that is my favorite show on TV. Um So it's
Speaker 1: very hard for me to like have changes happen to
Speaker 1: my favorite thing. So whatever, I just went down a
Speaker 1: wormhole on him just to be like, all right, who
Speaker 1: the hell is this guy? Why are you the host?
Speaker 1: Why didn't I get this job? Forged in Fireheads? If
Speaker 1: you're listening, petition me to be the next host when
Speaker 1: Grady is ultimately fired for war crimes exactly. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: how was that tour in Iraq you did as a
Speaker 1: Green Beret? I don't recall that part though, right, So
Speaker 1: the previous host is who I'm more interested in. What
Speaker 1: was their name? What was their back where they just
Speaker 1: like a real sword head and like, well no, will
Speaker 1: Willis also had some sort of I think he was
Speaker 1: a pair of rescue guy. Um so yeah, like they
Speaker 1: always have like somebody that's like former military hosting it.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I remember, Yeah, this guy was perfectly non
Speaker 1: memorable for a show that was really about making fucking swords. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a perfect just a perfect weird little avatar. And then
Speaker 1: he always had bad hair and it was just really
Speaker 1: beautiful just to see him just not know how to
Speaker 1: like riff with the judges, and it was very endearing
Speaker 1: because he was just uncharismatic. And this guy, he's also uncharismatic,
Speaker 1: but he's like yelling at you the whole time, and
Speaker 1: I'm just not I'm not here for that. Because Foraged
Speaker 1: and Fire, you think is going to be like a
Speaker 1: toxic bro show, but it's actually breaking down those barriers
Speaker 1: because that show was all about like guys that like
Speaker 1: make knives separately coming together and meeting more people and
Speaker 1: forging friendships and knives at the same time. And no
Speaker 1: one's ever in shid Is Forged and Fire Friendship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's what the Forge was forging the whole time. Um,
Speaker 1: And it's just very sweet to see people that could
Speaker 1: be school shooters just finding a craft they're really into
Speaker 1: instead the potential of a career on QVC later on,
Speaker 1: yeah exactly. I mean they I'm looking on a media
Speaker 1: outlet that wants to tell me the real reason will
Speaker 1: Willis isn't on this season. But it wasn't just they
Speaker 1: were like, yo, man, your hair is too weird, like
Speaker 1: your your vibes are all all funked up. I think
Speaker 1: during Quarantine his wife had a baby and he wants
Speaker 1: to go be a dad and whatever. They live in
Speaker 1: like Arrowheads Mozels have have fun, but I do miss him,
Speaker 1: and I do think a lot of people want him
Speaker 1: to come back, So we'll see. We'll see how much
Speaker 1: they pay attention to the fans. I like his he's
Speaker 1: his hairstyles like one where it's like he doesn't pay
Speaker 1: attention to the fact that his hair is growing. And
Speaker 1: then every now and then, what is going on with this?
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta a red carpet, avoult the hack
Speaker 1: and then he shows up looking like that. You're like wow,
Speaker 1: which is so funny because he literally has hair and
Speaker 1: makeup every day. But they just I'm like, you have
Speaker 1: a perfect You're the host of a TV show. Somebody
Speaker 1: powders your face that nobody says that anything about this air.
Speaker 1: What's happening in the trailer? Is it like trying to
Speaker 1: get like a six year old ready for church or
Speaker 1: they're like you gotta do your hand Like no, I'm
Speaker 1: like smearing it back like fuck whatever. Goal like that.
Speaker 1: Then I'll say Will Willis is just like a name
Speaker 1: that sounds like made up completely like Will Willis Yeah,
Speaker 1: because the Will only has one L is that create yes, yeah, yeah, Jack?
Speaker 1: Can you handle it? I don't think I can, but
Speaker 1: my man one now, but two in the in the
Speaker 1: last name. So that's it. He doesn't want you to
Speaker 1: get confused because he's not trying to freak us out. Now,
Speaker 1: have four L in your two names. That comes too much.
Speaker 1: I mean his parents had knew what was going on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it does, like because it only has the one L
Speaker 1: in the first name. It does seem like he just
Speaker 1: like messed up writing his last name and then try
Speaker 1: it again because yeah, he like couldn't get the momentum
Speaker 1: going um or or Will Willis is the real war
Speaker 1: crimer between him and Grady Pale, and they're like, what's
Speaker 1: your name, fella, will will Yes, indeed, I would like
Speaker 1: to audition for this job. I definitely strongly prefer Will
Speaker 1: Willis over Grady pal using the infallible technique of just
Speaker 1: Google image searching them and looking at the first like
Speaker 1: ten pictures that come up. Uh yeah, Grady pal just
Speaker 1: looks he's got like a real Captain America vibe, and
Speaker 1: that shows already like pretty rob rob will Willis feels
Speaker 1: like he got out of the army or whatever the
Speaker 1: hell you get out of for pair of rescue and
Speaker 1: he just like got like grow out his hair with
Speaker 1: the leg our Arrowhead smokes like a little bit of
Speaker 1: wheats sometimes just a little bit, like he feels like
Speaker 1: he just gets into it a little bit. He like
Speaker 1: has friends that have been to Burning Man. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and like Grady pals, like the kind of person where
Speaker 1: like women in Middle America can't believe that a guy
Speaker 1: that hands him is like a fascist or racist. Yes,
Speaker 1: you know like him. No, he's so handsome, Like no, no, no,
Speaker 1: that's that's like that's going to be the next wave
Speaker 1: of faces you're gonna see to try and make this
Speaker 1: thing look normal. Yeah, exactly. What is what something you
Speaker 1: think is overrated? Um? When you go to a convenience
Speaker 1: store and you look where just the recy cups used
Speaker 1: to be, Recy's has taken over, and I think all
Speaker 1: of the Recy's B sides they're all overrated. Just the
Speaker 1: O G Recy's cup, every new version that's got nuts,
Speaker 1: You're putting pretzels in the cup, You're putting potato chips
Speaker 1: in the cup. You got all these different versions. I
Speaker 1: mean they're good, some of them are very good, but
Speaker 1: the quality in the O G Cup has gone down.
Speaker 1: And I just wish that recy has had more confidence
Speaker 1: in itself, Like I wish the Rece's had the confidence
Speaker 1: of a Peppermin patty that's just not changed in a
Speaker 1: hundred years. But they keep throwing all this different stuff out,
Speaker 1: Like there's like there's a Recey's version of a Kit Cat,
Speaker 1: there's a Recy's version of like a Snickers, and they're
Speaker 1: never as good as the other ones. But I just
Speaker 1: wish like they kept the quality up of the O
Speaker 1: G Cup. So York Peppermin Patty famously tried the York
Speaker 1: Peppermint Patty with two with toothbrush particles in there, and
Speaker 1: it did not go over very well. Yeah, um, that
Speaker 1: was like thing, You're right, Miles, that was not a thing.
Speaker 1: In my mind. I believed it because it felt like
Speaker 1: some ship from the early nineties that we would have
Speaker 1: been like, I don't know. And it cleans your teeth too.
Speaker 1: I think they trend draw attention away from the fact
Speaker 1: that they mimic the you know, feel, the tactile, the
Speaker 1: and the taste of toothpaste. I still love your Peperit
Speaker 1: package there, you know, you're right though, there there's Reese's.
Speaker 1: Is they're doing too much. It's too much. It's it's
Speaker 1: kind of freaking me out. It's this is what this
Speaker 1: is what CNN did was CNN plus they kept like
Speaker 1: it wasn't enough that paintup butter cups you wanted to
Speaker 1: fucking make. I just put in the link. You can
Speaker 1: look like if you're buying some ship off the website.
Speaker 1: The just takes five Reese's Marshmallow top big cup. Yeah
Speaker 1: this suck. Yeah, I like the Chip one. I really
Speaker 1: like the Chip one. But I like it because we're adding,
Speaker 1: we're adding to right exactly. Uh, and this isn't even branded,
Speaker 1: but like we're even like we're adding to the original
Speaker 1: with that. But then when you got these one, like,
Speaker 1: why do I need to eat a thin one for
Speaker 1: what I've had the white chocolate ones because they take
Speaker 1: up approximately half of the ones in the Easter egg
Speaker 1: bag that I have, and I've never I've never been
Speaker 1: glad like they're they're good, They're better than most other candies.
Speaker 1: They're not as good as the regular chocolate one, and
Speaker 1: I'm never tired of the regular chocolate one to a
Speaker 1: degree where I'm like, give me something, uh that's not
Speaker 1: as good. They formed me to the point where I
Speaker 1: even look at the organic ones with disdain. I'm like
Speaker 1: who the fuck invited you? Yeah, I'm okay with the
Speaker 1: seasonal shapes because it is. That's fine, everybody's going to
Speaker 1: do that. Yeah, I totally get that. I like, I
Speaker 1: actually think that the like the chocolate peanut butter ratio
Speaker 1: is better on the seasonal shapes. Yeah, but yeah, I do.
Speaker 1: I think that. I think the rec's Easter egg is
Speaker 1: a perfect candy. Um, I think it's good. I like
Speaker 1: how thin the chocolate is on it. The peanut butter
Speaker 1: feels fresher because I make them only once a year. Um.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's like all these other things. I'm like,
Speaker 1: how about you focus on being the best peanut butter
Speaker 1: cup or seasonal shape that you can be. I don't
Speaker 1: need you to. I don't need all these other weird
Speaker 1: like take fives and all sorts of different bars that
Speaker 1: make no sense. This whole section that's just orange of
Speaker 1: the store. I'm against it. Yeah, it just feels like
Speaker 1: somebody is like it feels like Mr. Reese has died
Speaker 1: and he had like fifty horrible children. Each child, Yeah exactly,
Speaker 1: and they're all worse, They're all worse than the original.
Speaker 1: Because I'm trying to find, like you who referenced the
Speaker 1: New York Peppermint Patty, but I didn't. Yeah, because they're
Speaker 1: they're owned by her, She's as well, and I wonder
Speaker 1: if they if her She's is, like, that's the nasty
Speaker 1: step kid. Reese's is the one who graduated honors. So
Speaker 1: we're going to take you to take your other classes,
Speaker 1: fast break class, kick cat class. Meanwhile, you have a
Speaker 1: really great child right there who's consistently just doing it,
Speaker 1: and we're not giving any shine to York. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: York was never the problem child, and it's just been
Speaker 1: steadily just on a roll this entire time. And guess what,
Speaker 1: York is going to turn out okay or doesn't need
Speaker 1: the family. York gets to stop coming home eventually, the
Speaker 1: firstborn with all this attention and all the trying different
Speaker 1: things and not letting Rees's just be Reese's exactly. I'm
Speaker 1: now in my head about whether I'm pronouncing matter and
Speaker 1: like yeah, and like that one scene where York comes
Speaker 1: home for Christmas but grudgingly, and there's still all this
Speaker 1: attention being paid to Resis and like Yorks just outside
Speaker 1: spoken to cigarette Reesis, like, man, it's real tough in there.
Speaker 1: And then York's Like, do you ever just wish like
Speaker 1: Mom and DA would just let you be you? And
Speaker 1: he's like every day, dude, every day. And that's who
Speaker 1: Reesus became. I blame et, you know, that's where that's
Speaker 1: where things became. I think they've they just soared to
Speaker 1: New Yeah, yeah, they're The Reese's page does not have
Speaker 1: a single pieces on it, a single piece. There is
Speaker 1: no evidence of Reese's pieces. I don't know if this
Speaker 1: is because no, yeah, the filter that we have on
Speaker 1: the on the search them I was just sent through
Speaker 1: the chat is just Reese's candy and I'm not seeing
Speaker 1: a single pieces. Um, so what the fuck? Even if
Speaker 1: you load more, I will just say if you put
Speaker 1: anything in New York, it would be gross like that that.
Speaker 1: I don't mind that they're trying things out, like just
Speaker 1: just get over like, figure out which one works and
Speaker 1: get over it quickly. York. If you put York, I
Speaker 1: think what I was trying to get at before. If
Speaker 1: you put York with like pretzel bit or no no, no no,
Speaker 1: no no, right, like you guys like it's like the
Speaker 1: thing that comes out of your mouth after you brush
Speaker 1: your teeth, if you've eaten eating pretzels or yeah, right, Um,
Speaker 1: what is something that you think is underrated? I think
Speaker 1: postcards are underrated. I think that uh, you love them
Speaker 1: whenever you get one, but you don't. We don't send
Speaker 1: them enough. And I think that it's it's a cheaper stamp.
Speaker 1: You don't have to get two in depth on a postcard,
Speaker 1: but they make everybody's day. And I think that more
Speaker 1: people should be postcarding. Yeah, I think that's a great call. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's an easy cheap way to be like, hey, thinking
Speaker 1: via yum. And it's also like, it's just it's just
Speaker 1: a nice it's just a nice thing to do. It connects,
Speaker 1: it connects, and I think to your point, like, it's
Speaker 1: probably maybe one of the most efficient ways of communicating
Speaker 1: in terms of what the like cost is to you
Speaker 1: to send the postcard. But then also the heightened effect
Speaker 1: of someone receiving something that is handwritten is like whenever
Speaker 1: I get something handwritten, I'm like, oh my god, I know,
Speaker 1: it's very touching. It's very very touching, and something I've
Speaker 1: been doing because I have I live I live in
Speaker 1: l A now, my family is in Maryland. I have
Speaker 1: a niece that's like two and a half and every
Speaker 1: time I travel anywhere now, I send her a postcard
Speaker 1: and she has like a box of postcards for me.
Speaker 1: That's like someday eventually, because it's like, I don't know
Speaker 1: when I'm fifty is one she'll give a ship maybe,
Speaker 1: But am I still gonna be doing cool ship when
Speaker 1: I'm fifty? I hope so, but like it's going to
Speaker 1: be different cool ship sometimes. See like little kids who
Speaker 1: are really into you know, they're cool aunt or uncle.
Speaker 1: So that's keep doing that. That's so, that's so awesome.
Speaker 1: I do not do that. I am not a good uncle,
Speaker 1: but impressed, thank you. Trying my best. It was so funny.
Speaker 1: I started, and she was she was born like six
Speaker 1: months before the pandemic started, and I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: traveling all over place sending his stuff. And then here's
Speaker 1: another one. Here's one from the kitchen from Los Felisa
Speaker 1: went to g MLA's pretty cool sandwich place. Alright, what else?
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. And then she'll look back and she'll be like,
Speaker 1: these are my postcards from my aunt Brandy, who led
Speaker 1: the Home Depot twelve was skeleton revolt against General Posey. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, oh yeah, baby, I'm here. We should uh,
Speaker 1: we need to say. It's one of the most deficion
Speaker 1: ways of communicating until now. We have not seen what
Speaker 1: elam Musk is going to do with Twitter yet now
Speaker 1: that he owns it, So um, you know, stay tuned
Speaker 1: on that one. We'll see if he can beat the postcard.
Speaker 1: But holy sh it, that's depressing. And also you were
Speaker 1: talking before we started recording about skeleton Easter. Um, I like,
Speaker 1: like an idiot, I didn't know what that was. Can
Speaker 1: you can you explain what? Okay? Of course? So, um,
Speaker 1: I'm the proud owner of twelve ft skeleton. It took
Speaker 1: me two years to get at home Depot twelveth Skeleton
Speaker 1: Home Depot, but I did buy a twelht skeleton from them,
Speaker 1: and I regret it zero days of my life for
Speaker 1: the rest of my life. Um, I love it. It
Speaker 1: is still up right now in my backyard. Um. Because
Speaker 1: I'm also part of the twelfoot Skeleton Facebook group and
Speaker 1: everybody that's in it, we're We've been go to each
Speaker 1: other on to keep them up year round and keep
Speaker 1: dressing them up for different holidays. So yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: my skeleton uh is currently Um it has a I
Speaker 1: went to the so also my um media art medium
Speaker 1: for dressing the skeleton are Dollar store table cloths. Uh,
Speaker 1: that's that's what I work in UM so currently, my
Speaker 1: skeleton also had so I went to the dollar Store
Speaker 1: last month and UM they had like a chair cover
Speaker 1: that was a bunny rabbit and I took it and
Speaker 1: I cut it off and it's a perfect size for
Speaker 1: his head and then I put fake blood around it.
Speaker 1: So my skeleton is wearing a rabbit head on his
Speaker 1: head with a tiny Easter basket in his hand, and
Speaker 1: it's very fun. UM. But we've all there's lots of
Speaker 1: lots of people have that decorated and dressed up their
Speaker 1: skeletons for Easter and it's really been pissing off the
Speaker 1: neighbors in the h o ways around the country and
Speaker 1: it's really beautiful to see, like Karen's being radicalized for
Speaker 1: good UM And it's one of the few places online
Speaker 1: that actually gives me hope about the future because people
Speaker 1: are learning to have empathy for people on the other
Speaker 1: side of the country from each other that might have
Speaker 1: a lot of differences, but they do both have twelve
Speaker 1: foot skeletons and at the end of the day, aren't
Speaker 1: we all just skeletons in the first place? Serious? Yeah,
Speaker 1: all the physical manifestations of our inner experience. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: just love that the twelve foot skeleton became popular during
Speaker 1: COVID because just like it's it's literally just like a
Speaker 1: large looming figure of death above us. You know, it's
Speaker 1: just fun to look at every day. And he winks
Speaker 1: that just sometimes, like in the in the Black Death
Speaker 1: wasn't like all the art was like skeletons and like
Speaker 1: grim reapers and ship like that, and people are wearing
Speaker 1: those weird plague masks. Yeah, and now we got twelve
Speaker 1: foot skeletons because that's all we can. Yeah, yep, yep,
Speaker 1: they're great. I love better than what they had. By
Speaker 1: the way, I should know it's cool because those skeletons,
Speaker 1: you'll know, we're not twelve feet tall, whereas yours is
Speaker 1: twelve feet tall. So he's twelve feet. He can also
Speaker 1: put his hands in the air, so he's more like
Speaker 1: sixteen feet at that point, because it's very long arms.
Speaker 1: And early when I first got my skeleton, he came
Speaker 1: with two left arms by accident. And then on the
Speaker 1: twelfth Skeleton Facebook group, I found a man that live
Speaker 1: an old man that lived in Minnesota who had two
Speaker 1: right hands. His skeleton came with two right hands. We
Speaker 1: connected and we swapped and it just it just brought
Speaker 1: us both together. It was very speed. Maybe there is hope.
Speaker 1: I think it's possible. Was there any part of you
Speaker 1: that was tempted to have your skeleton depicting the Risen Christ? Like?
Speaker 1: Was that too too spicy? I thought about it, but
Speaker 1: I I did. But yeah, my like a my my
Speaker 1: part manager would not have been down but down, And
Speaker 1: I'm thankful she hasn't. She loves the skeleton. She's named
Speaker 1: the skeleton Joe Lene. And I was like, all right, um,
Speaker 1: so I'm trying not to, like, I don't want her
Speaker 1: to like have a problem with it. I think she
Speaker 1: keeps being like, Okay, maybe it'll come down now, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, it's just stall. No, he's up to
Speaker 1: stay baby, right, all right, let's take a quick break
Speaker 1: and we'll come back and do a quick mega heat
Speaker 1: check and we're back. Um, and yeah, it's you know,
Speaker 1: we're the meg has been in the news for various reasons.
Speaker 1: We got the Marjorie Taylor Green uh trial, we got
Speaker 1: some fundraising, uh figures as well as we enter the
Speaker 1: mid terms. Uh so, Miles, just a real quick heat
Speaker 1: check our man, our political uh you know or expert,
Speaker 1: what what's going on with the sure? Well this is
Speaker 1: these are the things I saw while scrolling on my
Speaker 1: phone on the toilet this week, Um, which is where
Speaker 1: you should see all of your MAGA news. I think,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, no, no no, no, I mean, if you're
Speaker 1: not defecating while consuming that news, you it's a it's
Speaker 1: a net negative for your body every wee. Um. But yeah,
Speaker 1: so we we got a lot going on. Marjorie Taylor Green,
Speaker 1: I think we touched on it on Friday's Trending episode.
Speaker 1: She was having She was an administrative hearing to determine
Speaker 1: whether or not she's able to run for office under
Speaker 1: the thing we've talked about even for Madison Cawthorne a
Speaker 1: few other people, part of the fourteenth Amendment, you know,
Speaker 1: saying if you're hey, if you funk around and participate
Speaker 1: in insurrection, you're you're going to be barred from holding office. Um.
Speaker 1: The whole time she was at this hearing was just
Speaker 1: very interesting to see her normally be like so aggressive
Speaker 1: and have this like chest out persona of like, I'm
Speaker 1: fucking nasty man, watch me do these pull ups, motherfucker.
Speaker 1: And then in a hearing suddenly you're like the like affected,
Speaker 1: like sort of sickly mob boss, like I don't recall,
Speaker 1: I don't recall. Ever, I don't recall my name is
Speaker 1: Marjorie Taylor Green was like almost the level of uh
Speaker 1: ignorance she was trying to plead, and you know, it
Speaker 1: was it was very funny to watch this performance go down,
Speaker 1: except for at times when like she was asked a
Speaker 1: direct question, started being coy and then realized, oh wait,
Speaker 1: maybe I forgot that everything I've said and done in
Speaker 1: the last like five years has been recorded. Maybe I
Speaker 1: shouldn't lie right now. Um So, I just want to
Speaker 1: play this clip to where she's being real coy about,
Speaker 1: you know, because again what they're trying to say is,
Speaker 1: you know, she had a hand in getting this crowd
Speaker 1: riled up to participate in the in the insurrection, whether
Speaker 1: that's like from the day the election happened or in between.
Speaker 1: This has always been the thing. She's always been using
Speaker 1: this very aggressive rhetoric. And one of the things they're
Speaker 1: pointing out is, I mean, you called Speaker Pelosi a
Speaker 1: trade her. Well, I mean it depends on right. Yeah. Um,
Speaker 1: in the screen, you've had your disagreements with Speaker Pelosi,
Speaker 1: isn't that right? I'm not sure what you mean. You've
Speaker 1: had political disagreements with her. You don't agree with some
Speaker 1: of the things she's done in her career, right, politically speaking,
Speaker 1: that would be correct, right, You don't agree with a
Speaker 1: lot of things she's done, right, politically speaking, that would
Speaker 1: be correct. In fact, you think that Speaker Pelosi is
Speaker 1: a traitor to the country, right, you're I'm not answering
Speaker 1: that question. It's speculation. You've said that, having you miscreen
Speaker 1: that she's a traitor to the country. No, I haven't
Speaker 1: said that. Put up pens Exhibit five. Please, oh no, wait,
Speaker 1: hold on now I believe suck it. Wow? Do I
Speaker 1: think Speaker Pelosi the fucking trader? Right? Okay? Yes? I
Speaker 1: said because she was okay with people who were seeking
Speaker 1: asylum entering the country, that that was true. So that
Speaker 1: was like the energy of this whole hearing. It's very
Speaker 1: interesting again to see somebody who is so like you know, uh,
Speaker 1: I guess it really underscores how performative all the ship
Speaker 1: is when you're when you're like one of these like
Speaker 1: rabid maga folks, like we're in public, you're doing all this.
Speaker 1: You get into hearing you're saying like, oh, I don't
Speaker 1: know politically, it sounds so much like the Alex Jones depositions.
Speaker 1: It's just like the big bloviating character on the stand
Speaker 1: where you can't we're like, they will have follow up
Speaker 1: questions and like you are being stopped and you aren't
Speaker 1: in charge. It's like, oh, look how quickly the bravado
Speaker 1: all goes away because you can't just like lie and
Speaker 1: move on and in like a one way conversation where
Speaker 1: everything you say is not challenging and just taking a
Speaker 1: face value. And then you're like, yeah, it's trader going on.
Speaker 1: They slowly like and here we go. Um, and yeah,
Speaker 1: there's something just very relieving about that because it reminds you, Oh,
Speaker 1: the thing that is like so frustrating and demoralizing about
Speaker 1: watching these people in public, you or Alex's Jones, you're mtgs,
Speaker 1: is what they're doing is illegal and and they're acting
Speaker 1: like it's not and then everyone else around them is like,
Speaker 1: it's not illegal, you're you're Nazi, and uh, just like
Speaker 1: seeing them in a court of law being like, oh damn,
Speaker 1: my bad. You you you asked a question and I
Speaker 1: lied to it. So that's where that I mean, I
Speaker 1: think because the sound of that l starting up of
Speaker 1: going can you please pull up plaintiffs Exhibit five? Hold on,
Speaker 1: hold on now, hold on, we don't got to do,
Speaker 1: we don't do we don't have to do all that now.
Speaker 1: And it's to show that just believe me, believe me.
Speaker 1: And like the thing that you always suspect about her
Speaker 1: is that like she's play acting as like she's a
Speaker 1: child pretending to be a politician in some ways, like
Speaker 1: that's the vibes you get, and like here it feels
Speaker 1: like she is a child pretending to be in a
Speaker 1: courtroom scene that she's like seen on you know, soap
Speaker 1: opera or something. And then uh so she does that
Speaker 1: that's speculative and diminutive and I do not allow further.
Speaker 1: I never said that, my bad. She's like, hold on,
Speaker 1: let me put and ship like in reality reality, okay,
Speaker 1: can we cut commercial? Please? Can we please cut commercial? Please?
Speaker 1: I don't know what to happen? A line line line
Speaker 1: um to stop the steal? Huh So in a couple
Speaker 1: that too, Like that's been sort of all of the
Speaker 1: energy for a lot of the big MAGA stars like
Speaker 1: Matt Gates, Marjorie Taylor Green, Lauren Bobert, Madison Cawthorne. They
Speaker 1: were raising so much money at the like towards the
Speaker 1: beginning of Biden's administration, off the heels of January six,
Speaker 1: because they were really they weaponized or monetized that grievance
Speaker 1: to the point where they were pulling in millions of dollars.
Speaker 1: A year later, it's a very different situation, Like Marjorie
Speaker 1: Taylor Green is operating at a three thousand dollar loss.
Speaker 1: A lot of people look at Madison cawthorne spending they're like,
Speaker 1: this doesn't make sense. Same with Lauren Bobert, although she's
Speaker 1: somewhat consistent, but even then they're like, hold on, you
Speaker 1: paid like four hundred grand to this like media firm,
Speaker 1: and like, but your social media posts look like you
Speaker 1: just are taking selfies, Like what what's going on here?
Speaker 1: There's a lot of question marks over them. And on
Speaker 1: top of it, you know, people like um Bobert and
Speaker 1: calw Thorne they're facing primary, they're getting primary too, and
Speaker 1: like they're they're looking at real messy primary challenges. So
Speaker 1: it's odd to see that just like the rhetoric of
Speaker 1: stop this deal isn't it's just that part definitely is fizzling.
Speaker 1: And I underlined that point with the next part because
Speaker 1: in Georgia where Brian Kemp Governor, Brian Kemp is getting
Speaker 1: primary like, you know, he's facing a primary challenge from
Speaker 1: David Perdue, who was that terrible senator who lost to
Speaker 1: John ass Off Um at the the UM right now,
Speaker 1: so Perdue is being backed by Trump like he has
Speaker 1: the full force of MAGA behind him. There's some there's
Speaker 1: some polls that show him twenty four points behind Brian Kemp,
Speaker 1: and it's probably yeah, which is I mean, it's then
Speaker 1: you're like, god, it feels so good that he's They're like,
Speaker 1: I guess Brian, the George, the Georgia voters, they're not
Speaker 1: necessarily as concerned with what Brian Kemp hasn't done because
Speaker 1: that's all produced. I'm like, you didn't help Trump still
Speaker 1: looks you didn't do this. They're like, yeah, but he
Speaker 1: has a pretty steady fair of homophobic and racist bills
Speaker 1: that are more than enough for our palates. Um, And
Speaker 1: you're starting to see that even when you have someone
Speaker 1: who's fully endorsed, like you got the Trump endorsement. He
Speaker 1: went up to their they had a debate on over
Speaker 1: the weekend, and the first thing out of fucking David's
Speaker 1: like David Perdue's mouth was, uh, the election was so
Speaker 1: in From Donald Trump's debate, Brian Camp said, I will
Speaker 1: never He's like, He's like, I will be your governor
Speaker 1: and I will never let Stacy Abrahams be governor or
Speaker 1: president on my watch. And people were like, yeah, there
Speaker 1: you gosogyny. You kept talking about the old hits we
Speaker 1: don't even care about anymore. Exactly. Yeah. I mean it's
Speaker 1: because because the thing, the election is the thing that
Speaker 1: like is most important to Trump, because you know, part
Speaker 1: of him like doesn't give a funk about all the
Speaker 1: things that he rode to power on, like the you know,
Speaker 1: racism and populism as much as he just as he
Speaker 1: cares about them in so far as they serve him.
Speaker 1: And so I just feel like he's not going to
Speaker 1: be able to um internalize the message of like this
Speaker 1: whole movement needs to get back to basics or you're
Speaker 1: gonna lose, because he's already been there and like the
Speaker 1: only thing left for him is for him to feel
Speaker 1: like he got there because of how like cute and
Speaker 1: funny he is and not the stuff that people actually
Speaker 1: cared about. Is my hope? Is that like that that's
Speaker 1: a lesson he can't learn. Yeah, I mean he's like
Speaker 1: not ideological whatsoever. Like he has zero actual policies that
Speaker 1: he cares about. It's just about whatever he says to
Speaker 1: get him to get himself there. And I don't know
Speaker 1: if that will. You know, it seems to be a
Speaker 1: losing point, which is nice, and I think and every
Speaker 1: there's always like when we talk about it too, it's
Speaker 1: like is he losing his grip on the party? Like
Speaker 1: what's his influence over the party? Honest? It just seems
Speaker 1: like his own obsession with revenge and his ego has
Speaker 1: just completely destroyed his own ability to message. Like it's
Speaker 1: it's like new, it's like self neutralizing because he's so
Speaker 1: hung up on this thing and he's trying to tell
Speaker 1: his people who are like his followers, like Okay, yes, sir,
Speaker 1: I will go out with the same grievances you have,
Speaker 1: and people like what like, no, I don't, it's not
Speaker 1: really that just doesn't hit the same way. And I
Speaker 1: think the other part of it too is because he's
Speaker 1: out of office. It's that these people that are like
Speaker 1: Brian Kemp, like Rhonda Santis, like Greg Abbott, they're the
Speaker 1: ones out there putting fucking bills on paper and causing
Speaker 1: the real harm. And I think there's like that level
Speaker 1: that like lack of like you know, potency that also
Speaker 1: like works on voters as they look at Trump, it's like, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's like we love him, but these are people making
Speaker 1: it fucking real, fucked up for people out there right now.
Speaker 1: And I think that also has like it's subtly working
Speaker 1: on voters to to see him as less of a
Speaker 1: leader just by virtue of him not being in office. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: and he like it's like he did have, like he
Speaker 1: had a strangle hold on the news cycle when he
Speaker 1: was still president, and not having that place to come
Speaker 1: from every day with something new, it's like he doesn't
Speaker 1: his his blips every once in a while. Now he
Speaker 1: doesn't have that same power position, and I can't imagine
Speaker 1: his ego would allow him to acknowledge the reality of that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so he's still operating from top. Yeah, no, man, you're not,
Speaker 1: because we've seen just from like the the Kevin McCarthy tapes,
Speaker 1: the text messages, they don't, you know, Republicans don't like him,
Speaker 1: but also no, they don't can't publicly dislike him. So
Speaker 1: I'm curious, really what's going to happen when candidacy candidacy
Speaker 1: stuff becomes more real, how the party begins to move
Speaker 1: or just see what the response is, whether or not
Speaker 1: people are sort of like, yeah, you know, thanks so
Speaker 1: much for making it okay to just be out just
Speaker 1: openly hateful and a big it, like, that's really what
Speaker 1: you did for us. And now we've got some other
Speaker 1: people who are kind of maintaining that same energy but
Speaker 1: seem like better candidates for us. I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's going to take that turn or they just all
Speaker 1: fall online and they're like yes, whatever, yeah, sure, just
Speaker 1: go ahead, I'll drop out. Well, I mean, I think
Speaker 1: it's also like they benefited from having such a buffoon
Speaker 1: in the figurehead place because they could do so much
Speaker 1: that nobody was looking at it because everyone was just
Speaker 1: looking at him because he just wanted all the oxygen
Speaker 1: the room. So it depends if they still think that
Speaker 1: is a good strategy or not. I mean hopefully who knows,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't. It really like comes down to whether
Speaker 1: he thinks it's a good strategy because like nobody can
Speaker 1: tell him anything. I think that's an underrated detail, is that,
Speaker 1: like at least when when in his first rise to power,
Speaker 1: he had like Bannon and people who would like give
Speaker 1: him honest feedback I guess you know, uh that he
Speaker 1: was bouncing off of. And now it just seems like
Speaker 1: he is completely out on his own on an island,
Speaker 1: just only hearing what he wants to hear, like well,
Speaker 1: and it's he splintered a lot of his people with
Speaker 1: like coming out eventually being like people should get vaccinated
Speaker 1: and stuff too. Because so it's like you've like called
Speaker 1: people like, okay, you you have this like big chunk
Speaker 1: of people that are like angry they think that that
Speaker 1: was stolen from you. They're like not vaccinated, and he's
Speaker 1: like he's chipping them off in different ways by like
Speaker 1: going back on certain things, like he isn't he isn't
Speaker 1: driving the the opinions of everybody anymore the way that
Speaker 1: he was, because like for so long it was just
Speaker 1: like oh, this new guy on the town. But now
Speaker 1: he's had to like he's had to divide, you know.
Speaker 1: And I think especially when we saw like the booze
Speaker 1: that he got for talking about vaccines at rallies, that
Speaker 1: sort of began the normal normalization of yeah, he can
Speaker 1: be wrong, and I can also agree with this other
Speaker 1: person that's a Republican who's doing it better in this aspect,
Speaker 1: and so it's not like they're against him, but now
Speaker 1: it's just dilutes his power more when it's like moments
Speaker 1: like that come up exactly. All right, let's take another
Speaker 1: quick break and we'll come back and talk about the
Speaker 1: multiverse and we're back. And um, as as we've discussed before,
Speaker 1: I love tracking like the national shared consciousness through what
Speaker 1: movies we all choose to watch and like commit to
Speaker 1: memory and um you know, a lot of that has
Speaker 1: to do with like when I was working at Cracked
Speaker 1: and we're publishing a lot of new articles and like
Speaker 1: myth debunking, I found that a lot of the myths
Speaker 1: were based on just things that showed up in movies.
Speaker 1: Like people's version of like what happens in outer space
Speaker 1: was based on what they had seen in movies in
Speaker 1: outer space. So like I think like movies really you know,
Speaker 1: cement into our brain in ways that are probably slightly underrated. Um.
Speaker 1: And there's been like two movies that have been kind
Speaker 1: of amos anomalously successful in the past couple of years.
Speaker 1: One not very unexpected, The Spider Man Multiverse one, um
Speaker 1: where they got bring back all the old Spider's men
Speaker 1: and all of the old villains. Uh. And then another
Speaker 1: one everything everywhere all at once, which like is still
Speaker 1: getting like doing bigger and bigger numbers every weekend, and
Speaker 1: like nobody, I can't imagine anybody saw it coming. It's
Speaker 1: like an indie film from the makers of Swiss Army
Speaker 1: knife Man, uh m Man, Swiss Army Man, which is
Speaker 1: you know, the only thing I heard about that movie
Speaker 1: when it came out is that I think the kid
Speaker 1: who plays Harry Potter like farts his dead body across
Speaker 1: the ocean at one surfboard. So yeah. But I think
Speaker 1: the things that those two movies have in common is
Speaker 1: they're both like about the multiverse, um, like from a
Speaker 1: subject of the plot is the multiverse. And it's also
Speaker 1: like defines the structure of the movie. UM. And I
Speaker 1: don't know, I like it obviously, Like this is not
Speaker 1: a new concept that has never been explored before, but
Speaker 1: it is. You know, there was a previous Spider Man
Speaker 1: movie into the Spider Verse that was more successful than
Speaker 1: people expected it to be, but it wasn't like the
Speaker 1: most successful movie like uh in movie theaters of the
Speaker 1: year or anything like that. Um. And you know that
Speaker 1: that we've been covered in like TV and movies and
Speaker 1: mainly comic books. Comic books were using multi multiverse plots
Speaker 1: for a long time, but now it like feels like
Speaker 1: it's like boiled up to a complete national obsession. Um,
Speaker 1: which I think, like from a narrative perspective makes sense
Speaker 1: because it allows you to do like fun stuff and
Speaker 1: also kind of easy stuff that like every every plot
Speaker 1: thread like doesn't need to cohere. Um. But the concept,
Speaker 1: the concept is like complicated. It's you know, when you
Speaker 1: try and explain it coherently in words, uh, it's usually
Speaker 1: a mess. So I don't know, do you think I
Speaker 1: mean when when you think about it is what what
Speaker 1: do you think is drawing people to the idea? Is
Speaker 1: It's just that it's it's our own sense of powerlessness
Speaker 1: that the idea that even though I'm experiencing this reality,
Speaker 1: I know that these other ones are possible, and that's
Speaker 1: what I'm I can soothe my wounds by having that
Speaker 1: sort of imagination or what I think that's true. I
Speaker 1: think people are like, well, I'm not going to retire,
Speaker 1: but somewhere, somewhere, some version of me is going to
Speaker 1: get to retire, and that just because like there is
Speaker 1: such a powerlessness and feeling like, you know, change happening
Speaker 1: in in this in this universe. I think that is
Speaker 1: like a way to uh way to dissociate eight and
Speaker 1: feel powerful about it. Maybe the day the filmmakers behind
Speaker 1: Everything Everywhere all at once had like a pretty interesting
Speaker 1: uh analysis where they're saying, i'll just read a direct quote.
Speaker 1: When I think about an infinite number of universes, I
Speaker 1: just think about meaning and narrative breaking down. But there's
Speaker 1: something about the multiverse that's relatable these days when everybody
Speaker 1: is living out a multiple living out multiple lives on
Speaker 1: the Internet depending on which user name and platform you're on,
Speaker 1: and you're also stumbling into other people's bubbles and subcultures.
Speaker 1: So there's something about it that feels not that high concept.
Speaker 1: Um yeah, no, I mean I think that is That's why, like,
Speaker 1: even for a movie like that, despite it being a
Speaker 1: heady concept of like to grapple with the quantum physics
Speaker 1: of what a multi verses and the infinite amount of
Speaker 1: outcomes that are possible and things like that, it's just
Speaker 1: very it's just very simply. I think it just taps in,
Speaker 1: I think to this idea of like we all have
Speaker 1: of looking at our lives and asking what if and
Speaker 1: like just using that as like sort of like our
Speaker 1: foundational understanding of like a multi you know, like what
Speaker 1: if what if my life changed at this point? Like
Speaker 1: what how does how does it fork off there? What
Speaker 1: happens if I did this at that point? How would
Speaker 1: it fork off there? And I think that's like a
Speaker 1: really it's a very elegant way of getting into that,
Speaker 1: that the that the film does. But I don't I
Speaker 1: don't know, like yeah, part of me, I think the
Speaker 1: reason I'm interested is because for as a kid, so
Speaker 1: often I would really think of like what if that
Speaker 1: happened instead of this and this and then this or
Speaker 1: like the first time I saw time travel film or
Speaker 1: there were consequences that even gave me like that imagination
Speaker 1: like holy sh it, like your life is your life
Speaker 1: is like thousands of fucking moves where one thing could
Speaker 1: fucking deviate from you know what you think you have now?
Speaker 1: Oh for sure. I remember being a kid and being
Speaker 1: in fifth grade just being like what if every A
Speaker 1: I got was actually an F and everyone thought I
Speaker 1: was stupid? What would I do then? Remember? Or like
Speaker 1: if every decision was the opposite? Was like what if
Speaker 1: my parents hated me and didn't love right? Like how
Speaker 1: do you survive if that is? You know, it just
Speaker 1: was like weird the survival ship I would put myself through. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I had like a not not really like a near
Speaker 1: death experience, but like I my friend who's very drunk,
Speaker 1: like pulled me back from being in front of a
Speaker 1: speeding bus, like at the last second, I went by
Speaker 1: my nose and like I've like i I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm probably dead in like cent of the Universe that
Speaker 1: um and so yeah, I've always since I heard like
Speaker 1: the quantum machine gun, like quantum suicide and all all
Speaker 1: that quantum immortality, like all those thought experiments, I've been
Speaker 1: very interested in it um. But that like takes an
Speaker 1: entire show to like explain all that ship um. And
Speaker 1: you know that's so like that I guess that's what
Speaker 1: I'm like wondering. Is like our there's also like really
Speaker 1: interesting physics at the at the core of it. Like
Speaker 1: one of the most biggest mysteries in modern science is
Speaker 1: how like when they look at an electron at like
Speaker 1: the quantum level, it can be spinning in two directions
Speaker 1: at the same time, and like that from that comes
Speaker 1: like all the like Schroedeger's cat and like all those
Speaker 1: different ideas where like it can be both alive and
Speaker 1: dead at the same time, and like everything exists in
Speaker 1: a cloud of probability um, and like that stuff is
Speaker 1: all like some of the most interesting ideas like and
Speaker 1: thinking happening in the world in my opinion. And it's
Speaker 1: interesting that like even though you can't like really use
Speaker 1: words to explain that to people in a coherent way,
Speaker 1: like our movies have just like kind of leapt to
Speaker 1: that and been like, yeah, I don't worry about it,
Speaker 1: but like this this kind of feels like how things
Speaker 1: actually work right, And there's like a part to their
Speaker 1: minds where we're just like, yeah, it does, like it's
Speaker 1: just really resonating. M hmmm. I just I think I
Speaker 1: the other part of the multiverse idea, right is it?
Speaker 1: I don't know. Man like it it can kind of
Speaker 1: help you feel like make more sense of the chaos
Speaker 1: of of life as it is, you know, Like and
Speaker 1: I think that's a really it's another part of it
Speaker 1: off like you know, right, if things can be bad
Speaker 1: or good or whatever, then they can be it's antithesis
Speaker 1: in another place. But I don't know if that helps
Speaker 1: people like give more meaning to their life or less meaning,
Speaker 1: like because it becomes like fantastic or whatever to sort
Speaker 1: of like really sort of sit with that and like
Speaker 1: be like, oh, I wonder if you know what my
Speaker 1: life would be like like this or this is a
Speaker 1: better way to sort of look at things. But um,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, it just seems like that, like
Speaker 1: you're saying, like it it taps into something where many
Speaker 1: people feel a certain like it's like a feeling that
Speaker 1: a person has but can't quite articulate it or articulate
Speaker 1: it in many different ways, but kind of comes back
Speaker 1: to this central thing. Yeah, And I think it's also
Speaker 1: a way to kind of just be like, you know,
Speaker 1: this version of me didn't do acts, but maybe somewhere
Speaker 1: else I did do that thing, and we are so
Speaker 1: defined by like, you know, our productivity or whatever. It's
Speaker 1: like some some version of Brandy Posey did do stand
Speaker 1: up on Code or O'Brien, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And that means that I get to use that credit
Speaker 1: to god, damn it. Tell here's my multiverse credits. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: very successful over there. And I'm sure you would we
Speaker 1: probably would have met, because at that point, I probably
Speaker 1: you probably would have just been for name casting me
Speaker 1: by name casting me for this stuff. But yeah, best
Speaker 1: picture in ye ye, yep, exactly right. Well, you guys
Speaker 1: see a movie like Everything Everywhere Else Wants or The
Speaker 1: Spider Man No Way Home? Is that the multiverse one?
Speaker 1: The most recent one? I don't know. I felt released
Speaker 1: from all things Marvel after the last Avengers movie and
Speaker 1: I haven't been back since, which was also a multiverse movie.
Speaker 1: It was yeah, yeah, that was the time travel of it. Yeah. Um, like,
Speaker 1: do you when you see that, is there anything inside
Speaker 1: you that's like that probably is how things are? Or
Speaker 1: do you feel like I'm watching a plot contrivance like
Speaker 1: that just makes it easier too. I think it's like
Speaker 1: it kind of falls into like a category for me
Speaker 1: that is very like, um, it's like I never I
Speaker 1: never want to say like, oh this is what I
Speaker 1: know to be happening or whatever, but it's very much
Speaker 1: like oh cool, like I get what people are spiritual.
Speaker 1: Like multiverse stuff kind of falls into that too, where
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, if this concept like brings you comfort
Speaker 1: or empowers you in this moment, cool um. But like,
Speaker 1: don't be concrete on things one way or the another.
Speaker 1: But it's like it's kind of like a prop towards you,
Speaker 1: like feeling like a whole person kind of I think
Speaker 1: I think I would I have to look at a
Speaker 1: multiverse thing and not use that as a way to
Speaker 1: like soothe my pain around a regret, right, And that's
Speaker 1: one way you can look at it like oh my god,
Speaker 1: because you see like you could have been the version
Speaker 1: where you know, Keihoi Kwan was like the dreamy guy,
Speaker 1: you know, like was doing his thing even though he
Speaker 1: wanted to be with her or whatever that is, rather
Speaker 1: than I can look at that and be a little
Speaker 1: more philosophical and try and look at it to say
Speaker 1: that your life actually has infinite potential. You know, if
Speaker 1: all of these things are possible in a multiverse theory,
Speaker 1: like then you you do. Have you there there, you
Speaker 1: can't count out the ways in which your life can
Speaker 1: play out to your benefit or even be aware to
Speaker 1: the ways that you know things might not go the
Speaker 1: right way. So I think that's kind of how I
Speaker 1: would I would take that in Sometimes, like a multiverse
Speaker 1: thing can be used as like a total D S
Speaker 1: X Machina type thing in a script like okay, because
Speaker 1: there's a fucking multiverse. Great, um. But I think some
Speaker 1: of these other films do it in a better way
Speaker 1: that I think kind of help us, you know, see
Speaker 1: our our lives in a little more of like a
Speaker 1: poetic way, if anything. I mean, I will never forget
Speaker 1: the first time I saw It's not not multiverse s necessarily,
Speaker 1: but the first time I saw Men in Black and
Speaker 1: like the end where they like pull back and like
Speaker 1: our galaxy is just one marble on like a fucking
Speaker 1: marble game, but this giant thing is playing. I mean,
Speaker 1: I was like in eighth grade or something, and I
Speaker 1: was like, whoa, I felt that, and like ever since, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just like one of those like oh, like any
Speaker 1: of this stuff. I think anything that I think makes
Speaker 1: you realize how tiny your position in the universe is
Speaker 1: is ultimately a good thing because if you can embrace that,
Speaker 1: it can take away the pressure that like society puts
Speaker 1: on us. And I think it's just nice to just
Speaker 1: feel a little bit more like, oh okay, and everything
Speaker 1: is swirling chaos around me. Cool. Yeah, I'm I'm a
Speaker 1: fucking plaything for a three fingered alien and some playground
Speaker 1: far and far away. Exactly kind of nice. Stephanie Shoe,
Speaker 1: who is incredible and everything everywhere all wants uh, had
Speaker 1: a like pretty good summary of like its relation to
Speaker 1: the spiritual modern spiritual condition. She said, even though we're
Speaker 1: in a semi nihilist time, I think there is a
Speaker 1: resurgence of spirituality, which I think is definitely true, And
Speaker 1: then saying just feeling like what is this whole life thing?
Speaker 1: Why did I choose that path? Oh my gosh, I
Speaker 1: was just thinking of this person and they called me
Speaker 1: five minutes later. It feels like we're operating sometimes on
Speaker 1: a frequency outside of our physical plane. It's also very
Speaker 1: confusing time. So a multiverse story is a way of
Speaker 1: tapping into this question of why is this reality the
Speaker 1: way it is? Is it the only reality? And does
Speaker 1: it work? So? Yeah, I don't know imagination ultimately, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's something different, something better. And then our
Speaker 1: writer Jam McNabb wanted me to acknowledge The Sliders was
Speaker 1: a TV show Sliders, Yeah, two thousand, um, but that
Speaker 1: was a show about like teenagers who for some reason,
Speaker 1: like hot teenagers were the people who could access different
Speaker 1: parts of the multiverse, like slide in between alternate realities,
Speaker 1: and um, they are possibly doing a reboot, so um
Speaker 1: make sure mentioned well. Star Trek Discovery the New The
Speaker 1: New Star Trek also has like a lot of multiverse
Speaker 1: um stuff, especially in the first season. That's very cool.
Speaker 1: It's in the site, it's in the Daily Zite. Guys, guys,
Speaker 1: this is all we should be talking to it. Like
Speaker 1: a couple of years later you were on top of it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I do wonder also if this is just like you
Speaker 1: mentioned Back to the Future, which I hadn't really even
Speaker 1: associated with being a multiverse thing, but like that idea
Speaker 1: is very clearly represented in that movie in a very
Speaker 1: crude way, where like suddenly your hand disappears from a
Speaker 1: photograph that is just there with like one person instead
Speaker 1: of two, Like what was that one person doing in
Speaker 1: that picture? Uh? Wow, that's a weird picture of me,
Speaker 1: just like just with my arm hovering in the air
Speaker 1: like it's around someone exactly. But I wonder if this
Speaker 1: has been the gestation period for that idea, and like
Speaker 1: now people are just like, oh yeah, because I think
Speaker 1: we all we all talked about even thinking of this
Speaker 1: as children, right right, Like, like I said, even I
Speaker 1: didn't realize what I was saying. I was a referencing
Speaker 1: back to the future. When I saw the like consequences
Speaker 1: of time travel is when I began to even conceptualize
Speaker 1: as a kid, holy sh it, like one thing can
Speaker 1: fucking change everything down the road, good or bad. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, well this is the whole like kind of
Speaker 1: plot basically of like Rick and Morty to right Sanche, Yeah,
Speaker 1: just like discovers a way to travel between different universes
Speaker 1: and fox them all up and burps burps a lots
Speaker 1: and every universe. I want to mentioned TV shows exploring it.
Speaker 1: I was specifically referencing like Dan Harmon Community Ship and
Speaker 1: also Rick and Morty and but yeah, Sliders, I don't
Speaker 1: I do not want to engage in Sliders erasure because yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a show I happened, and you know what,
Speaker 1: I'd like to do. I'd like to slide into different
Speaker 1: dimensions and try sliders in different dimensions. How are we
Speaker 1: improving the burger, the tiny burger in other dimensions? The
Speaker 1: most high concept show. It's you're going to other dimensions
Speaker 1: that you're sliding to other dimensions to try sliders. Yeah, listen,
Speaker 1: listen Food Network. I am pitching this right now, and
Speaker 1: the Daily's like, guys, I want to slide for sliders
Speaker 1: and other places. A camera crew co host Jonathan Gold
Speaker 1: and Anthony Bourdain. Exactly, sick show. You're gonna love this ship.
Speaker 1: Bring this show back, is what you. You You just say,
Speaker 1: Bring this show back, like, I'm sorry, did it ever exist?
Speaker 1: Oh it did it existed? The weirdest meeting effort a
Speaker 1: hot dog fingers Sometimes it's just a hamburger. Exactly totally
Speaker 1: TV shows. Thank you well, Brandy, Such a pleasure having you.
Speaker 1: Where can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff? Sure?
Speaker 1: I'm on Twitter and Instagram at brand Dazzle, and i
Speaker 1: am uh begrudgingly on TikTok at brand Dazzle is here
Speaker 1: because somebody else has my user name on there? Um
Speaker 1: all I ever post are me changing my Twelfhoth skeleton
Speaker 1: costumes on TikTok and they do also posted on my
Speaker 1: Instagram to um and then uh, yeah, I've got if
Speaker 1: you use bands in town, you can follow me on
Speaker 1: their Brandy Posey for tour dates that eventually we'll start
Speaker 1: back up this year. My podcast, Lady the Lady is
Speaker 1: every Wednesday, but we also do a monthly Zoom show
Speaker 1: on the first Sunday of every month that's very fun
Speaker 1: and we have like cool guests and we get like
Speaker 1: weird variety acts, like we have like a like a
Speaker 1: balloon making clown that's gonna make us a bunch of
Speaker 1: weird ship this month. So we just do a lot
Speaker 1: of weird stuff over there. Um. And then I also
Speaker 1: produced uh an album uh called Burn This Pandemic that's
Speaker 1: coming out later this year and it's raising money for
Speaker 1: Celia where it's a twenty comedians uh doing like three
Speaker 1: minute pandemic sets of just like burning their pandemic material
Speaker 1: just like all in one place basically, and um, that'll
Speaker 1: come out later this summer, So follow me on all
Speaker 1: the places. And that's got people like um, like Jamie
Speaker 1: Loftus is on that, like Chris Gethard Chris is Strata
Speaker 1: like a lot of people, Matt Leeb like a lot
Speaker 1: of people have been on the show. It's a great
Speaker 1: it's a really great lineup. It was a super fun
Speaker 1: night to record UM and all the profits from it
Speaker 1: are going for a good cause. So follow me on
Speaker 1: all the things to find out when that drops. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and is there a tweet or some of the work
Speaker 1: of social media you've been enjoying. Uh? Yeah, I have
Speaker 1: two things on Instagram. There is an account called Zillo Tastrophes,
Speaker 1: and it's a woman that just finds like the craziest
Speaker 1: houses in the market and then just walks you through them.
Speaker 1: And it's just fun to know that I'll never own
Speaker 1: a real house, but to see people that have squandered
Speaker 1: the opportunity of having one's nice um. And then also
Speaker 1: today is the Steve Donzinger just got released from his
Speaker 1: like days of house arrest if you guys don't know
Speaker 1: his time or not. Uh, And today he like he
Speaker 1: has posted a picture on his Twitter of like him
Speaker 1: holding up his release paperwork and he's like he's a
Speaker 1: free man for the first time in years, and that
Speaker 1: like hit a special spot seeing that this morning too,
Speaker 1: So he's the lawyer who got put in house arrest
Speaker 1: for and then actual jail I think for for prosecuting
Speaker 1: Chevron proven that they were guilty. Truly a wild story.
Speaker 1: Oh what if you were guilty? How they Yeah, his
Speaker 1: story is like terrifying to see it. But it's just
Speaker 1: like I'm very happy for him to finally be out
Speaker 1: and he's having like a big block party tonight, and
Speaker 1: it's just very like, you know, happy for him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: h Miles, where can people find you? What's a tweet
Speaker 1: you've been enjoying? Oh? Find me on Twitter and Instagram
Speaker 1: at Miles of Gray, also at the basketball podcast Mad Boost.
Speaker 1: He's check that out with Jack and I and also
Speaker 1: for fiance with Sophia Alexandra. Um. Let's see some tweets
Speaker 1: that I some tweets that I like. Let's see let
Speaker 1: me find Okay, Yes, this is from Steve Manicelli at
Speaker 1: Steven Steve or Steve van Zedi on Twitter tweeted, Remember, folks,
Speaker 1: if elon Musk buys Twitter, it will be up to
Speaker 1: us to make sure the value of this platform plummets
Speaker 1: too unprecedented and potentially bankruptcy inducing lows. So yeah, look,
Speaker 1: if it comes to that, we're gonna have to get
Speaker 1: organized on Twitter and just burn it down. Um. And
Speaker 1: then Brodie Reid tweeted, uh Arajan a place Tuesday, get
Speaker 1: your booty on the block tonight, make mind day. Um,
Speaker 1: just like swapping in Arajan for that way. That's great man.
Speaker 1: The business world is so horny about this. Elon Musk
Speaker 1: truly stunning. He's done it. It's like fucking nineties six
Speaker 1: Jordan's Finals for these losers, right right. Anyways, we will
Speaker 1: have talked about that on yesterday's trending UM tweet I've
Speaker 1: been enjoying. Jason Mott tweeted, remember it took four unsuccessful
Speaker 1: mambos before we got Mambo number five. Be patient with yourself. Um.
Speaker 1: And then uh I also endroid Sarah J tweeting, there's
Speaker 1: honestly plenty of worms. You don't even need to get
Speaker 1: up early for them. UM. I like the multiverse where
Speaker 1: Mambo number one hit number one. Mambo number one was
Speaker 1: huge actually for me personally, but that was like I was,
Speaker 1: I was real into the deep cuts at that point
Speaker 1: in my life. Um, can you imagine? But like in
Speaker 1: that version to the lyrics are all screwed up. Because
Speaker 1: like it's not just he's not even like one one
Speaker 1: one one one, everybody get down for Mambo number one
Speaker 1: and you're like, there's a little five, Like a lot
Speaker 1: of the rhymes are all funked up in this um.
Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O Brian.
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Speaker 1: information that we talked about in today's episode, as well
Speaker 1: as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles,
Speaker 1: what song do we think people might as it? This
Speaker 1: is a track off the new Push the T album
Speaker 1: It's Almost Dry, came out Friday, but the first track
Speaker 1: is a time machine because it's a Farrell beat with
Speaker 1: Push It T. And I feel like it's just it's
Speaker 1: two thousand four or whatever, like last time when Neck
Speaker 1: and Risk came out, I was like, it's it's it's
Speaker 1: good for the old millennial rap fans. Uh, And yes,
Speaker 1: the first track on the album is pretty good, and yeah,
Speaker 1: the rest albums not bad too. So this is Brambleton,
Speaker 1: if I push it t all right, well, The Daily
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