Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome with a brand new edition
Speaker 1: of brand new season that season two thirty two, episode
Speaker 1: one of the dailies that guys the production by Heart Radio.
Speaker 1: This is This is This is. This is a podcast
Speaker 1: where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness.
Speaker 1: It's Monday, April eleventh. You know what is It's four eleven?
Speaker 1: What's the four one one? I don't even know if
Speaker 1: that's an actual holiday, but remember four one one old people. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's actually National Teach Children to Save Day? Also World
Speaker 1: Parkinson's Day, but teach Children to Save Day. That kind
Speaker 1: of resonated with me as somebody who grew up completely
Speaker 1: financially illiterate, Okay, and it was I need to start
Speaker 1: getting my ship together to my late twenties. And even
Speaker 1: then I was like, man, I don't know if I
Speaker 1: released that my ship together. Turns out you kind of do.
Speaker 1: My name is Miles Gray, a k A. There's a
Speaker 1: place soft ocean but love Ard, where we'd watch Grand
Speaker 1: Prix and smoke blunts. Large cover ring trends on the dailies,
Speaker 1: I give in hot takes about the all right, shout
Speaker 1: out to the Fighter of the night man on the discord. Yes,
Speaker 1: the Long Beach Grand Prix just happened, and for people
Speaker 1: in l A, that's like the first like like I
Speaker 1: think it's like one of those events where your parents
Speaker 1: would get free tickets do their work and then they're like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I got these free tickets to see
Speaker 1: some car race and Long Beach and you go and
Speaker 1: like you have the worst view and then you're like
Speaker 1: totally off motor sports after that. But it's a significant
Speaker 1: time of year every year. But enough about me, allow
Speaker 1: me to reintroduce my guest host, the guest co host
Speaker 1: with the mo host straight from Chicago, Illinois. This is
Speaker 1: a very talented producer, podcaster, comedian host. I mean he's
Speaker 1: got he's got already selling out shows with his comedian
Speaker 1: family feud show that's live at the Allegian Theater. Check
Speaker 1: in for details because it will be ongoing. It will
Speaker 1: be iconic every single time. Please welcome to the stage.
Speaker 1: Jackie's now now want you all to turns al radios down.
Speaker 1: I know you used to me coming on the show
Speaker 1: and singing little dude ditty. I know you're used to
Speaker 1: me coming on the show and masadynya ear hose with
Speaker 1: some with some beautiful lyrics and tunes. But you know what,
Speaker 1: we didn't have a Black History Month this year. We
Speaker 1: got a new black woman justice White people, I want
Speaker 1: you to sing for me. I'm gonna be silent for
Speaker 1: fifteen seconds, and i want you to freestyle a song
Speaker 1: for me. All right. I want you to sing to me,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna feel it. I'm gonna feel it. I
Speaker 1: want you to set my week off right because I'm
Speaker 1: in motherfucking Mexico right now. That's right. We didn't record
Speaker 1: this on Monday morning, that's right, international, So go ahead,
Speaker 1: fifteen seconds this for you, everybody, moment of silence for
Speaker 1: the white people to sing for us, the people of
Speaker 1: color in the in the world today. Go ahead, go here, y'all.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, oh, damn, oh beautiful. Oh and as usual
Speaker 1: as we started every show. Yes, what up, niggas, How
Speaker 1: are we doing today? How are we doing? Uh? The
Speaker 1: white people saying for us today? Y'all go ahead and
Speaker 1: thank them, thank them inful, wonderful day. Yes, hello, Miles,
Speaker 1: how are you what? I'm good? How are you living
Speaker 1: your your international and international player, internationally known, locally respected, Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: feeling I'm I'm good. You know, I'm trying to get
Speaker 1: a little tan. You know what I'm saying, because you're
Speaker 1: gonna be too black. You'll never be too brown. Uh
Speaker 1: in this cabbo son Uh. And it's feeling great. It's
Speaker 1: feeling right. I feel fantastic, and we'll come back to
Speaker 1: America brand new. Man. Sound quality is fantastic for you
Speaker 1: being outdoors right now. I gotta ad yeah, man, it's well.
Speaker 1: You're sitting in the sun and the beach. Wow. Let
Speaker 1: me tell you something, man, I don't tell people that's
Speaker 1: too often, but I got you know you you remember
Speaker 1: that show Captain Planet. Yes, all the five Elements, the rings.
Speaker 1: I got all those rings, and all I do with
Speaker 1: them is make everything shut the funk up around You're like,
Speaker 1: which here, water be quiet, heart be still, be still,
Speaker 1: my heart fire come. So that's why, that's why it
Speaker 1: sounds so good. Man. You know, I'm using myself good
Speaker 1: podcast quality. I love to see you winning, love to
Speaker 1: see black people winning enjoying the sun. But let's introduce
Speaker 1: our guest today, one of my favorite people to speak with.
Speaker 1: You may know his work from Slate, where he works
Speaker 1: as a journalist. He's also an amazing photo journalist, podcast host, producer,
Speaker 1: and just a wonderful representative of what greatness can come
Speaker 1: out of the garden state of New Jersey. Please welcome
Speaker 1: our guest today. Amen, it's my ow. There is so much.
Speaker 1: The white people were so good. I was not expecting
Speaker 1: all that. Our capella it was amazing. Yeah, fantastic with
Speaker 1: the harmonizing. It's wild too. What a day because this Monday,
Speaker 1: April eleven, there's also a National Barbershop Quartet Day, so
Speaker 1: they really dusting off those books. I'm not joking. That's
Speaker 1: it was. It's all. It was all meant to be.
Speaker 1: So thank you creating the space for that, for us
Speaker 1: to be just serenaded like that. Amy, what's good man?
Speaker 1: You know, I know you've got you're you're dealing with
Speaker 1: parent life, and like many people in the pandemic, it's
Speaker 1: kind of grinding you down a little bit. So I
Speaker 1: want to complain, but I just love this kid so
Speaker 1: freaking much that it just feels good to be tired
Speaker 1: all the time and feed him stuff. You know. So
Speaker 1: he's got like two little teeth. It's like a little
Speaker 1: bunny rabbits sticking out the bottom. Okay, and so I'm
Speaker 1: just feeding him what I'm eating, and it's it just
Speaker 1: feels good, Like I'm actually really happy to be a
Speaker 1: dad now. But I've got like a book that I'm
Speaker 1: working on, I've got a podcast that I'm working on.
Speaker 1: I've just got so many, so many pans on the
Speaker 1: fire right now, so many, so many things blistering up
Speaker 1: and feeling good. So you know, I mean, I'm sure
Speaker 1: they didn't find him. Your fatherhood just kind to like
Speaker 1: awaken a new level of motivation for you, Like when
Speaker 1: you're I'm sure like on your way to being a
Speaker 1: parently like wow, man, like I'm really I'm about to
Speaker 1: have a child. I gotta like I'm going to hold
Speaker 1: my kid down. But are you now, Like, even as
Speaker 1: you're there physically in the flesh, what has that done
Speaker 1: to your brain? You know, I didn't expect this to happen,
Speaker 1: But I feel like I have much more appreciation for downtime.
Speaker 1: Like before I would just kind of pull out the
Speaker 1: phone mindlessly scroll doom scroll. Sometimes I'll just like play
Speaker 1: FIFA for hours because I have nothing else to do.
Speaker 1: Now I'm like, oh my god, this kid's gonna be
Speaker 1: napping for an hour. And in that hour, I can
Speaker 1: get so much done, and it just there's a lot
Speaker 1: of little small winds throughout the day that keeps you motivated.
Speaker 1: So it's this thing has been a blessing man. He's been.
Speaker 1: He's honestly been the best thing that happened for my
Speaker 1: career too, because I've been milking him like crazy for
Speaker 1: content right right, this book and this podcast I'm working
Speaker 1: on our both about parenthood. Turns out nobody has written
Speaker 1: a book about being a Most American dad. So I'm
Speaker 1: trying to I'm trying to market. I'm trying to show
Speaker 1: up at the airport Kiosk right exactly, just on your way.
Speaker 1: They're like, hey, brother, let me talk to you before
Speaker 1: you get on this flight with your kids. Have you
Speaker 1: have you heard the good word yet from brother? Am? Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: I'll be out there. I'll hop that ship on the
Speaker 1: corner being like, get up on this alright, Well, amen,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get to know you a little bit better.
Speaker 1: But let's let's tell some people, not some people, all
Speaker 1: the people that are listening right now, what we're gonna
Speaker 1: touch on. Uh Joe Biden, the administration, they maybe did
Speaker 1: a good thing for labor, Maybe who's who knows. We'll
Speaker 1: have to see how this all shakes out. Disney has
Speaker 1: I think energetically now just replaced like mask mandates, I guess.
Speaker 1: So we'll talk about, you know, how the right is
Speaker 1: now being like, yeah, let's just put all our energy
Speaker 1: into this thing now, because that's certainly what it feels like.
Speaker 1: Then we'll talk about Devin noonas just sounding like a kid,
Speaker 1: that kid from high school that like would tell the
Speaker 1: dumbest lies to your face and you're like, bro, you're
Speaker 1: lying right now and you're still saying this to my face.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about his defensive truth social and how much
Speaker 1: of a disaster that's been. And then we're gonna have
Speaker 1: to come for a Coca Cola because they're there. They're
Speaker 1: wonging out with these like flavors that I have no
Speaker 1: idea what they mean anymore. So we will discuss what
Speaker 1: those are and what's even the point anymore of any
Speaker 1: of this. But first, amen with something from your search
Speaker 1: history that's revealing about who you are. Okay, So, so
Speaker 1: something in my search history I was looking up for
Speaker 1: how to discipline a ten month oh, because discipline is
Speaker 1: such a big thing for me. Man I don't know
Speaker 1: about you guys, but I just grew up with the
Speaker 1: wrong kind of discipline and I'm not trying to repeat
Speaker 1: that and pass that down. So I've been looking everywhere
Speaker 1: for any kind of example of something that works because
Speaker 1: banks growing up, Yeah, yeah, yeah, my parents would open
Speaker 1: the kitchen drawer and be like, pick you, choose what
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hit you with, and it's like that kind
Speaker 1: of thing, choose you. I didn't always deserve it, but
Speaker 1: you know, that's just I think everybody from our generation
Speaker 1: I had something like that. Yeah, I don't want to
Speaker 1: do that at all. I don't want to do it
Speaker 1: at all because I was so afraid to talk to
Speaker 1: my parents by any Yeah, that's the wild thing. You
Speaker 1: don't realize how it manifest too, because as I think of,
Speaker 1: you know, like I'm you know, I just got married
Speaker 1: and thinking about you know, having a family and what
Speaker 1: that looks like, or even just thinking about my own childhood,
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, man, the kids gotta respect you like
Speaker 1: I did. And I like, like how I was made
Speaker 1: to respect my parents when I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: that also came with a bunch of other bullshit that
Speaker 1: I'm having to like deep program myself with because of
Speaker 1: the like a little bit of that little bit of
Speaker 1: fear that you live like with as a kid, that
Speaker 1: can manifest in a lot of other ways. So but
Speaker 1: what that kind of swings in the other direction too,
Speaker 1: because there's a whole cottage industry of But I think
Speaker 1: it's just to be like fake advice. You know, it's
Speaker 1: like trying to pull the kid aside and explain to
Speaker 1: them and reason with them. I don't know how many
Speaker 1: kids you guys have interacted with, but little kids don't
Speaker 1: have logic. No, no, I'm not gonna explain something like that.
Speaker 1: But you know, to that point, I have some friends
Speaker 1: who are like that with their kids. And the first
Speaker 1: time I was like, white people, what the big freas
Speaker 1: them with their kids? And was my first instinct, right,
Speaker 1: And then I was like then checking my own ship,
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I was screamed at with like the
Speaker 1: four of a thousand sons and like, yeah, that definitely
Speaker 1: put me in one lane. But that kind of made
Speaker 1: things rocky a bit. But I was surprised they were
Speaker 1: actually pulling this ship off. They're like, hey, look at me,
Speaker 1: like breathe it out. They're like you see you can't
Speaker 1: do that, and they're like, oh, okay, okay, but like
Speaker 1: in a way that obviously they're not like fully being
Speaker 1: like you know, contrite or whatever, but in a way
Speaker 1: that I've never thought, Like when I was putting myself
Speaker 1: in that kid's she was, I was like, there's nowhere
Speaker 1: I would hurt any of this ship. Yeah. Yeah, you'd
Speaker 1: almost wait for them to finish talking just so you
Speaker 1: can go back to whatever you were right, right, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you almost need to have a little bit of fear
Speaker 1: in your heart. But I don't want them to be
Speaker 1: afraid of getting hit. I'm looking for something else. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well you can. You can just do with my grandma
Speaker 1: did and and make them believe in the devil and
Speaker 1: that they'll go to hell if they do bad ship
Speaker 1: that psychological trust, psychological trauma, you know, do that. You
Speaker 1: can do that if you like. It don't work either,
Speaker 1: but it does help that on Muslim and God gets
Speaker 1: really specific about what that what's yeah, like this hell
Speaker 1: exist in Islam? Yeah, and God just has like a
Speaker 1: field day and look at it on about like you know,
Speaker 1: if you're a girl, you're gonna get hung by your
Speaker 1: nipples and brain will be boiled, and that's like the
Speaker 1: least punishment you'll get, right, It's like really creative. Do
Speaker 1: Muslims have like a fear of hell like Catholics do,
Speaker 1: like that Catholic guilt that that creeps in with like
Speaker 1: the idea, you know, like it, why not how is hell?
Speaker 1: Because to kill people? The Muslim version of damnation is
Speaker 1: it's like temporary. Right, There's like a hadith that said
Speaker 1: that one day hell will be empty because it's almost
Speaker 1: like a prison term. Once you do your term, you're
Speaker 1: going to be taking it out. Yeah, that's progressive and
Speaker 1: I'll get right, yeah, you know if if the nipple
Speaker 1: hanging is temporary or the blood boiling, I'll get it back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you I mean. And there's like in his Slam,
Speaker 1: there's so many stories about redemption, and we talked about
Speaker 1: God is like the most merciful thing that you can't
Speaker 1: even comprehend how merciful God is. And so there's like
Speaker 1: stories where like this person was terrible their whole life,
Speaker 1: they murdered a bunch of people, and then right before
Speaker 1: they died, they saw this dog in the desert that
Speaker 1: was thirsty, so they took off their boot, they dipped
Speaker 1: in a well and fed the dog and boom they
Speaker 1: went to heaven. So there's like weird, it's not so.
Speaker 1: I think there's little bit more nuance in a slam
Speaker 1: where it's like you could it's you just have to
Speaker 1: do more good than bad like that, right, right, right,
Speaker 1: it's got a net out to being positive or just
Speaker 1: a bunch of bad ship. But do one good thing
Speaker 1: a day, and just in case that's your day, that's
Speaker 1: the case, that's your day, you go, always ended on
Speaker 1: the high note, always ended on, Always end the day
Speaker 1: on the high note. Everybody is there an age where
Speaker 1: like a ten month old even has like the cognitive
Speaker 1: ability for anything to work, or at that point was
Speaker 1: the article being like, bro, come on, it's ten months old. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's pretty much what the article say was like wait,
Speaker 1: wait a couple of uh you know. One thing that
Speaker 1: I wanted to stop doing though, is just like swatting
Speaker 1: at people's faces. And he's like really, he knows he's
Speaker 1: not supposed to do it because every reaction he gets
Speaker 1: is a negative reaction. But he'll just like let you
Speaker 1: pick him up. He'll get you like close, you're like
Speaker 1: going for a nozzle, and who's just like Wow, he'll
Speaker 1: just like swing his arm and like catch you, you know,
Speaker 1: and I wanted to stop doing that. I don't want
Speaker 1: to bro I mean he's like, yo, whoa, whoa, you're
Speaker 1: trying to get up in man, I was born with
Speaker 1: six ft the distance, babe, get out of here, like
Speaker 1: he was born an error social distance, stop my favor.
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have showed him that clip of Will Smith.
Speaker 1: That's what I shouldn't be done. That's stuff. Even what's
Speaker 1: something you think is overrated? Oh this is gonna be
Speaker 1: a little weird, but but Legos. Here's here's why I
Speaker 1: think Legos is overrated. Man. You buy something for like
Speaker 1: sixty dollars and it comes with like eighty pieces, right,
Speaker 1: Like there's so many there's so many pieces that you
Speaker 1: need to just be creative and just have fun and
Speaker 1: build your own stuff. But I've been looking into like
Speaker 1: toy back to the baby ship, looking into toys that
Speaker 1: I can like help my baby like develop some cognitive
Speaker 1: connections between his body and his mind. And so I
Speaker 1: got like these big blocks and he's just he's not
Speaker 1: there yet. So and they're freaking expense. They're too expensive
Speaker 1: for me to be Like you know I'm gonna put
Speaker 1: them away you could play with something else, so like
Speaker 1: it's been there over. I also think like Lego Lego
Speaker 1: as an adult, you know when I see Legos, like
Speaker 1: I thought about buying the Lego said like a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago and building it was like a the
Speaker 1: Serious Tower or some parts of the Chicago Skyline. I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, that'll be dope. I didn't buy it,
Speaker 1: but I feel like they are bad and advertising their
Speaker 1: kids as well, because we know I never had a
Speaker 1: concept of building what was on the box. When I
Speaker 1: had Legos as a as a shorty, it was just
Speaker 1: you know this this piece going you just I would
Speaker 1: be build guns and right. I wasn't building what they
Speaker 1: were saying to building. But did you inherit a bunch
Speaker 1: of lets? I inherited a bunch of Legos from like
Speaker 1: a family friend who got older. So like one day
Speaker 1: a fucking like suitcase just came to my house so
Speaker 1: many Lego pieces. But there I didn't have the amat
Speaker 1: I was building, just bad looking like ship that sucked
Speaker 1: because I was just three. Legos are underrated Legos you
Speaker 1: have to buy or overrated. That's what free Legos free
Speaker 1: legos like a pit. Oh yeah, like give me a
Speaker 1: and I will fucking I'll battle anybody, like which you
Speaker 1: want to do? Space instructions, no box, but the second
Speaker 1: you buy something that has some kind of instruction. And
Speaker 1: then I was looking into this stuff for like adults,
Speaker 1: wall shopping for my kid too, and you know, they
Speaker 1: had something like the Colosseum, like the Roman Colosseum, and
Speaker 1: I looked at the reviews and it's like, this is
Speaker 1: the biggest set ever, this is amazing. But then it's
Speaker 1: like the same like one page instructions a thousand times,
Speaker 1: like the round about, Like you're just trying to numb
Speaker 1: people in a way. Man. That's kind of how I
Speaker 1: felt about it. Well, I think it's I think legos
Speaker 1: are that thing right where like it works for kids
Speaker 1: like the like I see even my nieces and nephews
Speaker 1: they play with, like the stuff that's like from I
Speaker 1: P that they funk with like on TV and ship
Speaker 1: like did Star Wars. Legos stuff for other things that
Speaker 1: are like you know shows they know and those are
Speaker 1: like little kids, and but for adults, I think adults
Speaker 1: see these things is like these collectors items that you
Speaker 1: just build out of legos and you leave there. And
Speaker 1: for me as a kid, I remember like having a
Speaker 1: set like where I built like a land Speed or
Speaker 1: some ship from Star Wars, and then part of me
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I don't, like, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: leave this ship on my shelf, like I need to
Speaker 1: play with ships. So then you inevitably start breaking it down,
Speaker 1: and then you don't and you completely ignore how you
Speaker 1: made it again, and now you left with a bunch
Speaker 1: of land Speed or shaped pieces. So I think adults
Speaker 1: and kids also interact differently. I don't know, but I
Speaker 1: think legos and are probably more for adults because we
Speaker 1: can do ship with them, and for kids, like Plato
Speaker 1: in the mix, what do you do? What do what adults?
Speaker 1: The adult play? Do you do with? Like Plato? Hey, man,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna needs you to stay on my business, okay,
Speaker 1: all right? Yeah, all good, all good? Hey do you
Speaker 1: do you? I know i'd be saying, but there are
Speaker 1: some things we gotta leave secrets, all right, Yeah it's
Speaker 1: my bad. Plato sounds sous. Yeah, yeah, it's a fun time,
Speaker 1: you know what. I'm gonna just play dumb instead, how
Speaker 1: about that? Uh? But yeah, I think again, let us
Speaker 1: know about Legos, like, Yang, how do you feel about it?
Speaker 1: Dial in callers, listeners, because I think we're at that
Speaker 1: point now where you see Legos kids on stock X,
Speaker 1: like there's a there's a resell market for the stuff
Speaker 1: that meant to like appeal to our sense of nostalgia.
Speaker 1: Like I remember I tried to buy the home Alone house,
Speaker 1: the Lego Home Alone house to build like over like
Speaker 1: new like Christmas break, because I was like, fucking I
Speaker 1: want to I want to make some I go ship again.
Speaker 1: That ship sold out so quick and then it's like
Speaker 1: expensive on stock X. There's like a new back to
Speaker 1: the Future set, like a DeLorean. That ship is so
Speaker 1: fucking like ten x priced up on stock acts too expensive.
Speaker 1: It should be handed down. Always don't never buy Lego,
Speaker 1: pass it down. Yeah, exactly, exactly, good point. I'm surprised
Speaker 1: you're not like community centers or they're like do bring
Speaker 1: your Legos in, because like they're essential to are like
Speaker 1: spatial reasoning skills and like you know, nurturing our little
Speaker 1: engineering hearts as children. Mm. Yeah, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know, am. And what is something that's underrated? Oh? Okay,
Speaker 1: so this is something that's at the top of my
Speaker 1: mind because I just filed the piece to my editor
Speaker 1: about it this week. Yo, Miles, this piece is like
Speaker 1: words long man. This this piece is like ten pages.
Speaker 1: It's all about the book banning influencers a face book,
Speaker 1: and there's like these moms who are very aggressive about
Speaker 1: getting other moms radicalized and involved about these books that
Speaker 1: are about LGBT, about race, about things that you know,
Speaker 1: progressives have been really trying hard to get the country
Speaker 1: comfortable about talking about. But they're trying to get these
Speaker 1: books not just thrown out of schools but in the
Speaker 1: public libraries. They're trying to limit access to all this stuff.
Speaker 1: And so I tried and I tracked down some of
Speaker 1: these pages where these moms are. What they're doing is
Speaker 1: the reviewing books on their own and making lists and
Speaker 1: Excel documents and pds and sharing them around saying, hey,
Speaker 1: check your school for this book. And they're not like,
Speaker 1: they're not like that bad there their books about just
Speaker 1: like their their memoirs written by black writers, their memoirs
Speaker 1: written by LGBT writers, and they're trying to say that
Speaker 1: this stuff is profane, Like imagine how how you have
Speaker 1: to feel in your insides about feeling about somebody else's
Speaker 1: lived experience being profane. It's it's a lot, it's heavy,
Speaker 1: but they're really successful man there. So I focused it
Speaker 1: on the library in Jonesboro, Arkansas, where there have been
Speaker 1: just you know, we we've been seeing with the school
Speaker 1: board meetings exactly the same thing with the crazy Torrians
Speaker 1: of parents being very aggressive and angry with the library
Speaker 1: board specifically because they had an LGBT display that for
Speaker 1: Pride Month. That happened like a year ago, and so
Speaker 1: it's the Overton window for what is acceptable not acceptable
Speaker 1: feels like it's shifted in the last year where now
Speaker 1: these parents are getting online and they're organizing, and it's
Speaker 1: it's actual grassroots. It's not an AstroTurf like what we've
Speaker 1: seen before that with the GOP. These actual concerned moms
Speaker 1: have been radicalized and other radicalizing other moms, and it's
Speaker 1: it's not going away anytime soon. So I think that's
Speaker 1: something that is underrated and we should be maybe strategizing
Speaker 1: a little bit more, talking to these people more, trying
Speaker 1: to understand it more right, because I think a lot
Speaker 1: of people don't realize too. I mean, just you think
Speaker 1: of the during the Civil rights movement, like the role
Speaker 1: of mothers to keep civil rights from progressing, and like
Speaker 1: the new language that mothers were able to create in
Speaker 1: the backlash of the Civil rights movement. Succeeding was to
Speaker 1: begin to emphasize a lot of these issues through the
Speaker 1: lens of motherhood or parenting as a way to draw
Speaker 1: back a lot of these gains that have been made.
Speaker 1: And yeah, like when you hear when like like you're
Speaker 1: saying now to just say, oh wow, this story of
Speaker 1: you growing up poor and black, that's this is this
Speaker 1: is gonna damage a child. But again, I think it's
Speaker 1: so transparent at this point that we see that anything
Speaker 1: that would potentially give expand someone's worldview that wouldn't make
Speaker 1: them completely very susceptible to misinformation. I mean, that's that's
Speaker 1: threatening information. It seems like, you know, what's what's wild
Speaker 1: about it is that these parents are encountering these books
Speaker 1: in the libraries, right, they're encountering them on Facebook. And
Speaker 1: so when they encounter them on Facebook, they're seeing just
Speaker 1: the one page where the author might describe being violated
Speaker 1: by their uncle, you know, right, right, And so if
Speaker 1: the author is writing about that, they're gonna say, look
Speaker 1: at what their trying to force fee to our kids,
Speaker 1: kind of like what they're talking about the Disney trying
Speaker 1: to group kids, right, They're using that same language. And
Speaker 1: so when they send out these lists of hundreds of
Speaker 1: books and then these parents will just blindly not read them,
Speaker 1: not find them. They're just gonna call their libraries and
Speaker 1: asked that they do have this book. Well this book
Speaker 1: has X y Z in it, And so they're gonna
Speaker 1: they're gonna flip out, and they're radicalizing other parents and
Speaker 1: getting other parents involved. And I spent some time on
Speaker 1: one of these Facebook pages, and Miles, I gotta tell you, man,
Speaker 1: there is like as a parent too, I can kind
Speaker 1: of see what's upsetting about all this stuff, right, because
Speaker 1: when you just take these one pages from however many
Speaker 1: books and put them all together, it does somehow look
Speaker 1: like the libraries trying to enforce some kind of sexual
Speaker 1: agenda or racial agenda. But these are just one or
Speaker 1: there may be like a hundred books, but like they
Speaker 1: might be like one of ten thousand that they have
Speaker 1: access to. And even then, what are the chances that
Speaker 1: they're eight year old and then one year old are
Speaker 1: gonna go into contract the love or something. Right, they're
Speaker 1: looking for books on dinosaurs and trucks, right, that's the
Speaker 1: kind of things. So they're saying, don't, don't enforce us,
Speaker 1: don't don't try to act like sex educators when you're
Speaker 1: just supposed to be talking the books, talking the library
Speaker 1: of books. And and to a degree, I kind of
Speaker 1: you can see the logic there. It's not if if
Speaker 1: that were true, like if all of that books were
Speaker 1: just these like terrible scenes really like over and over
Speaker 1: and over again, rather than like one tiny speck of
Speaker 1: information in a much larger you know, written work, right,
Speaker 1: because it's very manipulative to you know, it's manipulative as Facebook. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's very you know, you know, like I know
Speaker 1: I would never do this because I'm not a fucking
Speaker 1: terrible person actively, but I know that I could currently
Speaker 1: we don't know what you do with play though, so
Speaker 1: we were you know, again, we're gonna keep that, We're
Speaker 1: gonna keep that on the d L. But uh but
Speaker 1: you know, I I know that I could take a
Speaker 1: page and put an on Facebook because I know there
Speaker 1: are people on there who wouldn't do the necessary extended research, right,
Speaker 1: And so when you take people who operate on bad faith,
Speaker 1: like that they know what they're doing, they're just trying
Speaker 1: to fit an agenda. And I and I don't know
Speaker 1: the reason why, you know, but I mean I do
Speaker 1: know the reason why, but it is and it's a
Speaker 1: disappointing reason why. And it's it's very surprising that it works,
Speaker 1: you know, because when we were younger and the Internet
Speaker 1: was supposed to be this great wealth of information and then,
Speaker 1: like I said, people with bad faith will use it
Speaker 1: for misinformation, to basically just push their agenda towards people
Speaker 1: who don't quite get the internet, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: or people who do who just like to see what
Speaker 1: they like, you know. Oh yeah, this fits into my fear,
Speaker 1: you know, to the box of you know, if anything
Speaker 1: is presented in the persuasive enough way and it appeals
Speaker 1: to your emotions in some level, like yeah, you're gonna
Speaker 1: be more open to remember being like in college being
Speaker 1: some contrarian stoner and watching loose change and we're like, yo, bro,
Speaker 1: I've just seen the matrix of nine eleven found like
Speaker 1: you're ready and that's the kind of ship and it's
Speaker 1: like and and at that time, it fit because I
Speaker 1: had a very specific way of thinking. This was reinforcing
Speaker 1: that it helped me feel like I was actually like,
Speaker 1: I see, I'm I'm actually seeing the matrix y'all while
Speaker 1: y'all are just doing your thing. And yeah, and we
Speaker 1: see that extended and reiterated in different ways. And now
Speaker 1: we're at this point to where Facebook does have this
Speaker 1: thing where now it has the feeling of like concerned parents,
Speaker 1: because on on some level it is, but it's you know,
Speaker 1: the aims are insidious. Obviously, because we're just back at
Speaker 1: with Bernie. If I could say that one of the
Speaker 1: reasons why I'm so excited about this piece is that,
Speaker 1: you know, as a journalist, especially in this in this
Speaker 1: crazy cog, a giant machine that every journalist is a
Speaker 1: part of, it's so rare to encounter a story like this.
Speaker 1: You feel like you can actually get some truth outright
Speaker 1: that's also already being talked about in some degree in
Speaker 1: the ether that you know it's going to get clicked,
Speaker 1: and you know it's gonna it's it's it's kind of
Speaker 1: tapping into a larger conversation that people are already having
Speaker 1: about critical race theory and LGBT rights. You know, and
Speaker 1: this is one of the worst parts that I think
Speaker 1: is it's part of the parcel when you do become
Speaker 1: a journalist, is that we gauge success now by however
Speaker 1: many clicks your piece gets, and it's impossible that that
Speaker 1: doesn't influence the kind of stories that you eventually become
Speaker 1: interested in. So I'm so excited about this piece because
Speaker 1: this feels like an opportunity to actually go and do
Speaker 1: some real investigative work that is already tapping into something
Speaker 1: that people are are concerned about. So this is one
Speaker 1: of those rare moments for me where I was I
Speaker 1: got to I got to go all in, I got
Speaker 1: to spend like a month on this piece. I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: it's ten pages long, and just it's one of those
Speaker 1: reaffirming moments for me as a journalist where it's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is why I became a journalist. When when can
Speaker 1: we have When are we gonna get blessed with the writing? Oh?
Speaker 1: I mean it's so long, so maybe the two weeks,
Speaker 1: all right, we'll come back. I'm not worried about getting
Speaker 1: scooped because no, no, not, We're saying come back when
Speaker 1: when it drops, come back. And then let's let's just sucking.
Speaker 1: Let's just lay it all out when you're when it
Speaker 1: drops that way, everybody can you can get the knowledge.
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break and we'll be
Speaker 1: right back. And we're back. So Joe Biden's administration, Uh,
Speaker 1: they seem to be doing something slightly good. The National
Speaker 1: Labor Relations Board there in this process of like looking
Speaker 1: at what is known as captive audience meetings. As it
Speaker 1: relates to it's a union busting tactic essentially, the captive
Speaker 1: audience meaning or meeting, and it's one of the union
Speaker 1: busters most coveted tools because you know, when workers even
Speaker 1: start talking about backing themselves and unionizing, the process of
Speaker 1: like shutting that down starts basically immediately the second management
Speaker 1: catches like wind of something like this happening. So already,
Speaker 1: you know, workplaces will do things like prevent people from
Speaker 1: leafletting or using company property to have like a meeting
Speaker 1: to discuss unionizing. It has to be done all of
Speaker 1: like you know, off of the company's infrastructure, essentially because
Speaker 1: they don't want people. They want to take every organizing
Speaker 1: tool away from people. But the captive audience meeting is
Speaker 1: where a lot of people end up getting really shook.
Speaker 1: And this is the thing that I think has been
Speaker 1: talked about. I mean, we always referenced it because we've
Speaker 1: talked about the historic unionization that happened in New York
Speaker 1: at that Amazon warehouse, and also we talked about Howard
Speaker 1: Schultz last week, the Starbucks CEO who's basically begging more
Speaker 1: Starbucks as he calls them partners to maybe not think
Speaker 1: about unionizing. But these meetings are usually mandatory where some
Speaker 1: fucking corporate goon comes through and filling people's heads with
Speaker 1: bullshit like unions are like, I can't believe it that
Speaker 1: this union you want to join. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you guys heard about it. They're like so fucked up
Speaker 1: and corrupt. Like it's a bad look first of all,
Speaker 1: to like even align yourself with these people. Also, do
Speaker 1: you know what they do. They're gonna steal all your
Speaker 1: money in the form of union dudes that they tell
Speaker 1: you is actually gonna help you, when what it really
Speaker 1: does is they take that money and they buy yachts
Speaker 1: and stuff. That's what they do. That's how it works.
Speaker 1: And it's like, no, that's actually the people. We're trying
Speaker 1: to protect ourselves from the gut art checks but okay,
Speaker 1: and it's and those are the kinds of that's like
Speaker 1: the energy in these kinds of meetings if you speak
Speaker 1: up and ask questions, Like there's plenty of anecdotes from
Speaker 1: people who have been in these meetings at any company
Speaker 1: where if you start asking sort of pointed questions, let's
Speaker 1: just start shutting you down. But like, okay, this is
Speaker 1: my meeting, Like you need to stop talking, okay, and
Speaker 1: you guys need to listen to what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: the bottom line here is that these are such transparently coercive,
Speaker 1: you know, maneuvers to stop people from unionizing, like you know,
Speaker 1: the idea that you're gonna hold someone's job over their
Speaker 1: heads so you can hear about the errors of unionization
Speaker 1: and like how it will absolutely negatively affect your life.
Speaker 1: It's basically the hostage situation to prevent you from actually
Speaker 1: advocating for yourself. So the pro Act was passed in
Speaker 1: the fall by the House, and that was actually addressing
Speaker 1: things like these captive audience meetings. But because it only
Speaker 1: passed the House means it has to go through the Senate,
Speaker 1: so we don't really know when that will be fully
Speaker 1: become a law, and we do we know what we
Speaker 1: can officially do away with it, and then yeah, right,
Speaker 1: So in the meantime, the National Labor Relations Board is
Speaker 1: basically saying, like, I think maybe we need to change
Speaker 1: our stance on this, because for the longest time, it's
Speaker 1: sort of been accepted that these are legal, that it's
Speaker 1: okay for companies to do this. But the head of
Speaker 1: the n l r B is now saying, you know,
Speaker 1: like this is kind of some fun shit, so maybe
Speaker 1: we need to actually amend what our official stances on this.
Speaker 1: And this is where it kind of becomes a double
Speaker 1: edged sword. Some organizers say, if the like National Labor
Speaker 1: Relations Board says captive audience meetings are completely out of
Speaker 1: the question, that it's it's a slippery slope in the
Speaker 1: sense that one, if you do away with making the
Speaker 1: meetings mandatory, it offers a way for management to begin
Speaker 1: to identify people who might be pro union based on
Speaker 1: their attendance at these meetings, and that would allow allow
Speaker 1: for them to deploy some like asymmetric like harassment campaign
Speaker 1: to try and chase them out of the company or
Speaker 1: or find some dumb reason to fire them and then
Speaker 1: on the other side, though, by having them kind of
Speaker 1: mandatory allows people to actually have to be there and
Speaker 1: like turn up. Basically, there was an interview from in
Speaker 1: These Times that they were talking to the organizers at
Speaker 1: the New York Amazon facility and they basically said, because
Speaker 1: it was mandatory, that gave us a moment to get
Speaker 1: really loud and draw attention to the fact that we
Speaker 1: needed a union, and that had a lot of people
Speaker 1: who were on the fence be like organically asking questions,
Speaker 1: being like why did you have them leave right now?
Speaker 1: Shouldn't we also hear like why it's good because we're
Speaker 1: only hearing that it's add But every time they try
Speaker 1: and bring something up, you guys are trying to kick
Speaker 1: them out. So we'll see where it goes. But I
Speaker 1: will say nothing, Um, there's nothing that will get me
Speaker 1: fired up to do work. Then you're forcing me to
Speaker 1: come to work, you know, like, because if you don't,
Speaker 1: then I'm just left to my own devices. Then I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna hill at the crib and do whatever. But
Speaker 1: and I mean this in like an activism way, but
Speaker 1: if you're forcing me to come to a meeting and
Speaker 1: you're forcing me to be here, I don't do the
Speaker 1: whole time, it's thinking like I shouldn't be doing this ship.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make sure. I'm gonna make sure I don't
Speaker 1: have to do this ship right. Well, you know the
Speaker 1: hard part is most people they go to these meetings
Speaker 1: and they hear like, yo, man, this could suck the
Speaker 1: company up, this, this could create your job, this might
Speaker 1: threaten your job, and they start putting that in your
Speaker 1: head and now suddenly you don't give a funk about
Speaker 1: humane work schedules or pay or benefits because now you've
Speaker 1: you've had this existential threat like just put right in
Speaker 1: front of you and yeah, that's that will absolutely affect
Speaker 1: how you vote when it comes to membership. But meanwhile,
Speaker 1: the Chamber of Commerce simps are in full force out
Speaker 1: here saying ship like, well, if companies can't intimidate their workers,
Speaker 1: it will quote silence job creators. The consequences will be disastrous.
Speaker 1: Uh huh, I don't see why they need to not
Speaker 1: be silenced, Like what you gotta talk for? You've just
Speaker 1: given jobs. We know what you're there for. You ain't
Speaker 1: gonna say, but these people, you don't understand that that
Speaker 1: they what they're asking for could absolutely decimate the company financials.
Speaker 1: It's like they want to steal from us or something.
Speaker 1: The CEO of Starbucks, I don't know, did you guys
Speaker 1: see this video? The CEO of Starbucks. Oh yeah, and
Speaker 1: maybe like a few days ago, well, they were. He
Speaker 1: had a meeting about you know, why unions are bad
Speaker 1: and uh, he compared it to assault. He said, they're
Speaker 1: being assaulted. American corporations are being assaulted by people's unionization efforts.
Speaker 1: And again, we'll say this all the time if it
Speaker 1: relates to oligarchs and people and workers wanting equity or
Speaker 1: oppressed people wanting equity trying to combat inequality. Again, equality
Speaker 1: always looks like an existential threat to the people that
Speaker 1: have more than they need. That's just like, that's how
Speaker 1: you tell on yourself. Because if someone's asking for equality
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh fuck, that means you got too much.
Speaker 1: That means you've got a little too much dip on
Speaker 1: your chip. And if equality is a threat to your
Speaker 1: bottom line, maybe you should change the way you operate
Speaker 1: your business. Well, this is just the country I'm in aiming,
Speaker 1: you know, Like, I'm just I'm just this is what
Speaker 1: I'm If I could change the rules I would. I would,
Speaker 1: you know, I would, but you can't paying them different.
Speaker 1: You're a good guy. You're a good guy. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna do that though, But I won't do that. It's
Speaker 1: it's pretty wild to me though too. You know there's
Speaker 1: just something so that don't understand I now, look, I'll
Speaker 1: say this. I mean you should. It's tax season right now.
Speaker 1: You know we're in an entertainment you know, world and ship.
Speaker 1: The more successful you get, you know, the more you
Speaker 1: having to pay taxes. I'll be hot. I'll be salty
Speaker 1: as help paying my taxes too. I don't like you.
Speaker 1: I get it. I get that. But I'll tell you
Speaker 1: what I'm not hot doing paying like people to do
Speaker 1: work like I enjoy, Like if I asked some like
Speaker 1: I have. I went into this year like no more
Speaker 1: free ship. If I ask you to do something, even
Speaker 1: if you're a homie, I'll give you fifty like I
Speaker 1: don't care, no more free ship. I want you to
Speaker 1: make a poster, and even if you've made it for
Speaker 1: me for free in the past, if I can afford
Speaker 1: to give you money right now, I'm gonna give you
Speaker 1: some money for your work, for your time, for your dedication,
Speaker 1: for every for your skill set. Right. I don't get
Speaker 1: how making sure the people who help you be successful
Speaker 1: our paid is a bad thing. Like it just doesn't
Speaker 1: compute in my brain. And and I'll tell you why. Man,
Speaker 1: that's because you're not balling enough to be a public
Speaker 1: we traded company. Maybe that's what it is, you know,
Speaker 1: Maybe that's what it is. And must you not have
Speaker 1: that shareholder value? Ship hand transition to once that transition
Speaker 1: to you know, the accompanies of Jackie's and maybe, like
Speaker 1: I I know what I was talking. I know all
Speaker 1: that ship I was talking on the day. It was like,
Speaker 1: but you're on hand to make this minimum ways real
Speaker 1: jack jack he's went fucking corporate on No, like he
Speaker 1: became a corporation. I'm not even like he He's like
Speaker 1: he wants to be referred to as like this third
Speaker 1: party entity. It's very weird. I'm a businessman. Yeah, let
Speaker 1: me handle my business. Damn speaking of business, Disney, their
Speaker 1: business might be on shaky ground now they're not. Let
Speaker 1: me tell you something that Yes, that ship is what
Speaker 1: I live around the corner from from the Disney headward.
Speaker 1: So when I so like literally I can look out,
Speaker 1: I can look on my window kind of you know,
Speaker 1: peek my head around a couple of trees, and I
Speaker 1: was seeing all these motherfucker's It was on my front
Speaker 1: step basically, right. So also I'm telling people where I live,
Speaker 1: and maybe I shouldn't do that, but like, but which gate?
Speaker 1: Which gate? The one off Buena Vista or the other one.
Speaker 1: Now we're gonna keep that a secret with the play.
Speaker 1: Though we don't keep that a secrets with the play,
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. But right now, right the Conservatives there,
Speaker 1: they got they got a lot of energy, but nowhere
Speaker 1: to put it because they all of their outraged circuits.
Speaker 1: They're trying to fire him on every piston, but they
Speaker 1: just can't find something to stick. Ever since mask mandates
Speaker 1: and just general safe practices dealing with the pandemic have
Speaker 1: dwindled across the country, the right, they've lost a lot
Speaker 1: of their culture war like steam and the trucker convoy
Speaker 1: that we saw on the Beltway, we talked about that
Speaker 1: that was a literal piss soaked disaster. So and like
Speaker 1: you couldn't have been a more just like pathetic l
Speaker 1: to take like in public like that. But that's they
Speaker 1: don't respond to public losses like that, so all of
Speaker 1: the GOP is like activist wing, they needed something to
Speaker 1: scream and lie about. So while Disney Company stepped right up,
Speaker 1: because ever since they did the bare minimum and say
Speaker 1: they are against homophobia, the right has pretty much immediately
Speaker 1: took the the like anti mask energy that they had
Speaker 1: and pivoted into Disney is grooming children. They're grooming kids,
Speaker 1: grooming them for what. Oh, they're grooming them. They're grooming them.
Speaker 1: They're grooming. That's what I know. And that's the word
Speaker 1: I that's the word I keep seeing my Facebook posts,
Speaker 1: and so I would just say that, which I'm sure,
Speaker 1: like we've seen in like in America in general, buzzwords
Speaker 1: pop up and nobody knows what the funk they mean,
Speaker 1: but they know they're against it. So we are now.
Speaker 1: I think we have now, like we've definitely shifted into
Speaker 1: the start ship in physical space phase of their latest
Speaker 1: outrage campaign, which means misspelled signs and Lula Lula role
Speaker 1: leggings this far as the eye can see, and like
Speaker 1: what we're talking about is out front at the Disney
Speaker 1: h Q and Bourbank, California on like at the end
Speaker 1: of the towards the end of the week, there's a
Speaker 1: huge crowd out there with a bunch of the alt
Speaker 1: right typical people. You see, you had q brained anti
Speaker 1: mandate ladies, you have gropers, you have sucking people from
Speaker 1: like white supremacists, like fighting gangs, and ship they were
Speaker 1: all they were all in together again. But people had
Speaker 1: signs like Disney, stop mousing around with our kids. Boycott
Speaker 1: Disney and their attack on our kids. It's a satanic agenda.
Speaker 1: People had like again usual, let's go Brandon for good
Speaker 1: measure and stop the perversion of our children. It was wild, man.
Speaker 1: I mean, there was about four or five people with
Speaker 1: bullhorns or whatever you call air horns or whatever speaking
Speaker 1: into them and just the ship. They were saying like,
Speaker 1: we're all to you, Disney, you will never pull the
Speaker 1: wool over eyes again, and blah blah blah blah blah
Speaker 1: you're doing. And I'm just listening to this ship and
Speaker 1: I'm just like, this is the same company that you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I grew up in the nineties, man, you know,
Speaker 1: eighties baby nineties kids, so you know I grew up
Speaker 1: with Aladdin wanting the genie to fake a girl to
Speaker 1: fall in love with him, or you know, fourteen year
Speaker 1: old mermaid wanted to fall in love with the dude?
Speaker 1: Was she can't even speak to or like this is
Speaker 1: the ship that we grew up with, like talk about grooming,
Speaker 1: like we've been this. Let's not I'm not saying as grooming,
Speaker 1: but like this ship I was okay with. Hey, have
Speaker 1: you guys seen that the Tennessee Brett whose who's straight
Speaker 1: up being accused right now of being a groomer. Have
Speaker 1: you guys heard about this guy John that the RNC
Speaker 1: aid he's a he's representative? Oh was he okay? God?
Speaker 1: Because there's an x RNC aid who's actually like, I mean,
Speaker 1: so many people are actually about to do like stand
Speaker 1: trial for this ship on the right. I mean there's
Speaker 1: also Matt Gates, who was celebrity Congress representatives. So I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just the hypocrisy is off the charts because if
Speaker 1: you were actually concerned with real grooming, here are actual cases,
Speaker 1: Here are some names. Here are people who are many
Speaker 1: bee standing trial right, who are in your party, who
Speaker 1: are in your party? Like, what are you doing? Like,
Speaker 1: prove it to us, prove it to us that you
Speaker 1: are so concerned with grooming by holding the people in
Speaker 1: your own party accountable if you can do that right.
Speaker 1: And they've skipped a very important step in conservative outrage,
Speaker 1: which is like, when you're trying to get your movement going,
Speaker 1: you have to have victims to hang this all on,
Speaker 1: to be like, look, and this is the person funked up.
Speaker 1: If it's socialism, they're like, look at the people of Venezuela,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, do you see what's happening there. Ignore
Speaker 1: the sanctions that the US has put on there to
Speaker 1: make it like that. Just look at that, and we
Speaker 1: call it that social it's so bad or the fucking
Speaker 1: thought killing cliche that I know you've had to deal
Speaker 1: with because I've seen it in your work and people
Speaker 1: being like sharia law? What about sharia law? They're like
Speaker 1: what and what do you know about that? Oh? Oh boy,
Speaker 1: but you need And then you can point to people
Speaker 1: who are like and these are the victims of this thing.
Speaker 1: I'm not seeing them parade out a bunch of kids
Speaker 1: who are like, yo, man, uh supersize me? Or what
Speaker 1: the or what the supersize people? What's that? What? Dude?
Speaker 1: I'm so bad with? Uh? Fucking that that the toy
Speaker 1: story or fucking cars like funked up my whole life
Speaker 1: and set me down like this dark path of like victimization.
Speaker 1: They don't they don't have that, So it's just really
Speaker 1: seems like they're having trouble connecting dots. But again, I
Speaker 1: think the most powerful thing about it all is all
Speaker 1: of these whether it's the transphobia or racism or homophobia
Speaker 1: or whatever what have you, it's all rooted in these
Speaker 1: people need to feel that they have an active role
Speaker 1: in taking someone's power away. It doesn't matter what it
Speaker 1: is or that they are, they're actually right or they
Speaker 1: have a reason too. It's just to sort of like
Speaker 1: reignite this feeling that they have that they that they
Speaker 1: aren't losing out on, like societal progress. You know something
Speaker 1: that you said earlier I thought plugs right into this,
Speaker 1: something about how people need something to latch their anxieties onto.
Speaker 1: And so if you're feeling a certain type of if
Speaker 1: you're uncomfortable with your situation for any one reason, you're
Speaker 1: gonna need an outlet. And you know which, what's really
Speaker 1: scary about this is that it has nothing to do
Speaker 1: with the actual facts. It's like expressing the emotion. And
Speaker 1: if you see people who are expressing the emotion that
Speaker 1: you you crave that you also want to unleash. It's
Speaker 1: it's really addictive to get into caught into that cycle
Speaker 1: and see things in the same way. And the reason
Speaker 1: why I say it's addictive is because it's really easy
Speaker 1: to go from one issue to the next. Because if
Speaker 1: you spend any time that any of these message boards,
Speaker 1: very rarely are they ever just talking about the one issue.
Speaker 1: They're gonna link critical race theory to what's happening in
Speaker 1: Florida with the don't say Gay bill. They're gonna link
Speaker 1: what's happening with like key Mouse with whatever they're they're
Speaker 1: concerned about in Ukraine. Even so, they're gonna they're gonna
Speaker 1: just try and frame everything is this existential battle against
Speaker 1: the global elite. Whatever that means. Please any of them.
Speaker 1: Just name someone who's in the global eleat besides like
Speaker 1: George Sorrows, who have been trained to say, but there
Speaker 1: is the I mean that they need to do. They
Speaker 1: need to unleash their feelings. And it doesn't really matter
Speaker 1: whether or not it's true. They just are latching onto
Speaker 1: these people who are presenting themselves as fighting this big fight.
Speaker 1: They're on this crusade because they're not falling for the tricks,
Speaker 1: and it just so happens that the GOP is leaning
Speaker 1: into that and they're making that they're I want to
Speaker 1: call it their death throw because I don't know how
Speaker 1: they're going to survive when this next generation of kids
Speaker 1: grows up and after seeing Donald Trump, how are they
Speaker 1: ever going to vote for the people who are who
Speaker 1: will say the January six wasn't insurrection, but I'll vote
Speaker 1: for him again because I like his policy right, it's
Speaker 1: also just and it is It tickles me so much.
Speaker 1: How then skinned they are are? You know, because when
Speaker 1: they don't say gay bill was before it passed and
Speaker 1: Disney wasn't saying anything, you know, they're like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know they were, and they were on you know,
Speaker 1: kind of on their side, and then one little opposition
Speaker 1: and now it's like, oh, Disney grooming kids. There's like,
Speaker 1: you can't take one little opposition for them. It's I
Speaker 1: think it's further proof that they are more and more
Speaker 1: outside of the main stream. When you have more and
Speaker 1: more companies come out in opposition and for something as
Speaker 1: broad as Disney to do it, that's a gut check
Speaker 1: for some of these homophobes or they're like, am I
Speaker 1: is that true? And they're like, no, it's because they
Speaker 1: groom in the kids, and that's what that's that sling shot,
Speaker 1: and I give that is more for those of us
Speaker 1: would more than half a brain. We you also know
Speaker 1: a week before it that Disney one saying shit, right,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's fake, you know?
Speaker 1: Is all? Well, I think that's there's something to like
Speaker 1: aim at what you're saying, though, right, is like that
Speaker 1: their look they need to express themselves and it's it's
Speaker 1: like that. The thing that all of these people have
Speaker 1: in common is that they have a completely like they
Speaker 1: have no emotional vocabulary. It's completely stunted, and they have
Speaker 1: no way of expressing emotions except it's like very specific
Speaker 1: like ways that aren't necessarily connected to what they're actually feeling.
Speaker 1: So it allows for this like very unhealthy way of
Speaker 1: expressing yourself while not really getting to the part that
Speaker 1: would give you some relief, so you stay locked in
Speaker 1: this like pattern. We're able to do that, and I think,
Speaker 1: I mean that's just right wing activists or not. And
Speaker 1: it's a part of the human experience that if you're
Speaker 1: trapped in that you're only going to I think, further exacerbate,
Speaker 1: you know, your your lack of comprehension of what's happening
Speaker 1: around you and be more susceptible to stuff. So totally, totally,
Speaker 1: I mean some of the rhetoric gon Ukraine has been
Speaker 1: I think really keen understanding some of this stuff because
Speaker 1: on the one hand, there are people who are pro
Speaker 1: Putin because they see Putin as this macho Trump asked
Speaker 1: like Christian Knight, who is trying to to take on
Speaker 1: the Western elites, which are like the same enemies of
Speaker 1: the far right, and so they see Putin is on
Speaker 1: their same side. But at the same time, there are
Speaker 1: also people on the far right who see who and
Speaker 1: is the enemy because he's hiring Chechens and people from
Speaker 1: the Middle East to come and fight Ukraine, and so
Speaker 1: they're calling that they're blaming Putin for for making Ukraine
Speaker 1: into a quote unquote white graveyard. So there, and so
Speaker 1: it almost doesn't need to make sense, So they don't
Speaker 1: even necessarily need to align themselves with the same trail
Speaker 1: of logic. They're just gonna express themselves in the same way.
Speaker 1: They're just looking to latch onto any of these world
Speaker 1: events and wrap it into their big conspiracy right. Exhausting, exhausting,
Speaker 1: trying to cover your sad trails. Um, all right, let's
Speaker 1: take a quick break. We'll be right back and we'll
Speaker 1: talk about some I guess pathetic stuff and we're back.
Speaker 1: Just gotta check in with Devin Noonas because that guy.
Speaker 1: Um So truth Social is a fucking nightmare. If you
Speaker 1: are invested in its success at all, if you're invested
Speaker 1: in its fiery, explosive descent into hell like I am,
Speaker 1: then this is great news has been a wonderful story
Speaker 1: to watch this last week. We talked last week about
Speaker 1: how the numbers have gone to absolute shit. Nobody is downloading,
Speaker 1: barely anyone using it. The word is that Trump is
Speaker 1: pissed about like this public l So it makes sense
Speaker 1: that at the end of last week Devon Nounas, who's
Speaker 1: like the head of like Trump's digital brand or digital company,
Speaker 1: went out to spin like the terrible headlines and he
Speaker 1: went on Fox um Maria Bardaromo Show, and she she
Speaker 1: sort of like at him up to sort of like
Speaker 1: compare truth to Twitter by saying, like, hey, so, like
Speaker 1: what's your what's your take on truth? Competition Twitter, you know,
Speaker 1: getting in bed with Elon Musk and y'all, this is
Speaker 1: just this is some I just like when you got
Speaker 1: to soothe yourself with some lies. So let's listen in
Speaker 1: on Devin Newness. Is your reaction to Elon Musk taking
Speaker 1: a nine percent steak in one of your competitors, certainly Twitter? Well,
Speaker 1: you know, I think it's very interesting because you know,
Speaker 1: the goal that President Trump has and what I have
Speaker 1: in our team here at True Social is to open
Speaker 1: the Internet back up so that the American people can
Speaker 1: get their voice back. So it's clear that Twitter is
Speaker 1: kind of a ghost town. Uh, they desperately need Elon
Speaker 1: Musk to be there. So you know, it's probably something
Speaker 1: that Elon wants to do. I think he probably believes
Speaker 1: in free speech like we do. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: you know, there's not very much activity over at Twitter
Speaker 1: right now, especially when you compare it to sites like ours,
Speaker 1: where we're just in are beginning stages. As we continue
Speaker 1: to test and bring people on. Day by day, our
Speaker 1: interactions are already beating Twitter, and so Ellen is gonna
Speaker 1: have a lot of work to do there. Okay, Devon,
Speaker 1: enough enough porsh it out of your mouth. As we
Speaker 1: watch that on Twitter, my man said they need a
Speaker 1: they need a place writing as we watched the clip
Speaker 1: off Twitter, that people need a place to get their
Speaker 1: voice back there. Think there is in nine hundred thousand
Speaker 1: fucking ways for you to just say you're dumb ship already.
Speaker 1: But the ghost township a graveyard family. Okay, So we
Speaker 1: talked about this even last week. Twitter has nearly two
Speaker 1: hundred twenty million active users. Okay, like that means they're
Speaker 1: using the ship on all on your little site, five
Speaker 1: thousand active users. Funk out of here, Devon, it was
Speaker 1: pain fills? Are some of our interactions are eating Twitter?
Speaker 1: What does that mean? And like that people are laughing
Speaker 1: at you more than they laugh at Twitter. Right, what
Speaker 1: do you mean some of our interactions when they get
Speaker 1: on Twitter are beating interactions that originated on Twitter? Is
Speaker 1: what they say? Okay, you I don't think you're a
Speaker 1: digital native then what? Okay? So I just I just
Speaker 1: want to say there's the flatlining numbers. Apparently isn't the
Speaker 1: end of it. Because the two people that were like
Speaker 1: essential to the actual tech part, because that's always been
Speaker 1: the thing with all these like conservative like tech startup things,
Speaker 1: like they just get some dude who worked in I
Speaker 1: T who are like kind of build an app, and
Speaker 1: then it would fall apart because people don't have like
Speaker 1: the real functional know how. They had two people who
Speaker 1: like had some what of a pedigree when it came
Speaker 1: to tech, like certainly higher than the other attempts that
Speaker 1: like trying to usurp Twitter or whatever. Those two people
Speaker 1: they just fucking resigned publicly. They're like, yo, we're sucking
Speaker 1: off this ship, like they don't even want to have
Speaker 1: anything to do with it. And those guys were maga
Speaker 1: brained too, So I don't know where else they're gonna
Speaker 1: find tech savvy people who are, as you know, committed
Speaker 1: to the white nationalism. I mean, I'm sure they're out there,
Speaker 1: but in this sense, it looks like they had the
Speaker 1: cream of the crop and it didn't work out. Also,
Speaker 1: fun fact I learned from meeting this Reuter's article about
Speaker 1: this the whole Trump media empire thing. It was pitched
Speaker 1: to Trump by two former Apprentice contestants right after the insurrection.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's amazing. Yeah, this is Trump yet is Trump son,
Speaker 1: but he hasn't barely used it. He says he'll use
Speaker 1: it when it's a hit. Yeah, because he knows what
Speaker 1: he's like. I'm not using this shit. You know, he's
Speaker 1: scrolling the throwing his burner Twitter right now. Right. It's
Speaker 1: like when Lonzo Ball had to wear his own sneakers,
Speaker 1: you know what, when he's like, man, I wish these
Speaker 1: ships were Nike, but my dad made me start a
Speaker 1: fucking brand. So I guess I gotta wear these Triple
Speaker 1: Bees on the court. And he won't even and Trump
Speaker 1: won't even wear his Triple Big Baller brand sneakers onto
Speaker 1: the social media court. Come on, Donald, So I just
Speaker 1: love that it was two people who knew him from
Speaker 1: The Apprentice who were like, Yo, we could scam this
Speaker 1: motherfucker right now that he's like he's taking ls on
Speaker 1: social media, let's pitch him on a social media platform.
Speaker 1: Kevin Newsome is just like eating Trump steaks right now,
Speaker 1: just like using all the Trump water, the Trump champagne
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. I'm sure you got. I'm sure
Speaker 1: you got paid in steaks, oh yeah, and drinking drinking
Speaker 1: out of maga plastic straws. Remember when that was the
Speaker 1: thing for a little bit women. Was it the maga
Speaker 1: where it smelled it's spelled maga out. You know how
Speaker 1: strology used to like, yeah, it's forever to get that
Speaker 1: sipted printed on the little tools. Speaking of drinks and
Speaker 1: things you sip out of straws, Coca Cola, I just
Speaker 1: want to touch on this really quick. They've I don't know,
Speaker 1: like Coca cola is its own thing. We know what
Speaker 1: cola tastes like. That's like it's been its own fucking thing. Great,
Speaker 1: but they have been introducing more of these, like limited addition,
Speaker 1: fucking flame verse that I just do not understand anymore.
Speaker 1: It's one thing when they're like, yo, man, you want
Speaker 1: to do so much caffeine that like you could fucking
Speaker 1: do a long haul truck and trip and like fucking
Speaker 1: barely bad n eye. Then great sipped on this, but
Speaker 1: now they have shipped like last month they released Starlight Flavor,
Speaker 1: which is quote supposed to recreate the taste and feel
Speaker 1: of space. Now I'm not a astronomer, um, but I
Speaker 1: feel like I can't quite conceptualize what the taste of
Speaker 1: a the vacuum of space is. No, I'm just one
Speaker 1: of y'all can think of something. I mean, if you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, you know when I've I've done
Speaker 1: drugs and it's all you know, like I'll bet you
Speaker 1: this taste like space. Uh but but never, but never
Speaker 1: that never has that thought like gained any traction to
Speaker 1: a sober mind. It reminds me of one of my
Speaker 1: favorite memes of all time. And this is like when
Speaker 1: memes first started to take off so years ago, and
Speaker 1: it was about like a perfume or like one of
Speaker 1: those like Bath and body Works lotions or something like that,
Speaker 1: and the scent was like cosmic sunray or something, and
Speaker 1: the meme was how to funk you know what cosmic
Speaker 1: sun ray smell like? And that's all the starlight smells like,
Speaker 1: I mean, or taste like. And this is like so
Speaker 1: a few people they've actually tried it, and based on
Speaker 1: like what people have said, like like their own reviews
Speaker 1: or read it, some have said it tastes bringing the
Speaker 1: baby and bringing in the baby the baby minutes many minutes. Hey,
Speaker 1: welcome to Daily Sight. Guys. What's your kids name? Was? Like, guys,
Speaker 1: his first media apparents, what should how should be addressing
Speaker 1: your son? Uh? Your highness? Okay, your highness, welcome to
Speaker 1: Ali's Like guys, Wow, he's looking. He's like, damn, my
Speaker 1: dad's doing a podcast. He's washed. Uh, look he loves
Speaker 1: you though looking at it. He was looking at We
Speaker 1: spent a lot of time together. We look at spen
Speaker 1: a lot of time. Sorry for those listening to a podcast.
Speaker 1: Amon names child is in the frame now and he's
Speaker 1: a he's an angel. But they said that apparently Starlight
Speaker 1: taste like either minty minty cotton candy sprinkled with vanilla.
Speaker 1: Someone said it had an aftertaste of cereal milk. Another
Speaker 1: person said it tastes like flour, so a variety of flavors.
Speaker 1: Nobody give it a color. It kind of sounds like
Speaker 1: it tastes like blue, right exactly, like it tastes like
Speaker 1: black with like shiny dots in it, like stars in space. No. Uh,
Speaker 1: then they've just announced a new one called Coke zero
Speaker 1: sugar Bite. But b y t e like a reference
Speaker 1: to I guess pixels resolution whatever. But this drink quote
Speaker 1: makes the intangible taste of the pixel tangible. M hmm.
Speaker 1: Come with the funk on this was Apparently they're like,
Speaker 1: I don't know who this is trying to appeel to.
Speaker 1: It must be the gaming Like metaverse set of people
Speaker 1: who are like me're like, damn, my drink out of taste,
Speaker 1: like what I'm looking at through my headset. But yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: Oh damn, I've been waiting for this pixel taste shouts
Speaker 1: a Coca Cola for knowing who I was. But these
Speaker 1: are all coming from this like Coca Cola Creations division,
Speaker 1: which so like what they did is like they killed
Speaker 1: things like tab and some of their other like less
Speaker 1: popular drinks, and they're now just putting a lot of
Speaker 1: new energy into these like limited flavors that have quote
Speaker 1: intriguing marketing campaigns, so like these are for people trying
Speaker 1: to be like so this one's clearly for gamers, star Light,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I guess for the space curious, but
Speaker 1: they all kind of just have this like really out
Speaker 1: of touch feeling that like happens like at the tail
Speaker 1: end of a generation that dominates like ad agencies and
Speaker 1: marketing philosophy or like the baby Boomers and Jenna m
Speaker 1: of like bro, I don't know how to fucking talk
Speaker 1: to like millennials or gen Z. I thought making a
Speaker 1: fucking coke flavor that tastes like a Fortnite gun. I
Speaker 1: was gonna do something and it didn't. I mean, it
Speaker 1: seems like the I mean, I want this job. It
Speaker 1: feels like an improv scene. You know, I've been in
Speaker 1: many I've been in many of I've been in many
Speaker 1: of pitched me something improv scenes and they always turn
Speaker 1: out insane. Uh, and that's what it feels like these
Speaker 1: and now those feel real. Um yeah, they just hey,
Speaker 1: I mean, good luck to y'all, Coca Cola. I mean
Speaker 1: not really. I mean, you guys are sucking all the
Speaker 1: drinking water out of the earth. But rock on with
Speaker 1: the new flavors. I wonder what the next one would be.
Speaker 1: If they're gonna go woke with a flavor like you
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I don't even want to say this, bro,
Speaker 1: you know, like ship like that or like black Excellence flavor,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like that's the kind of
Speaker 1: ship that they would do. And we're like, fuh huh.
Speaker 1: The fragments of the fragments of Dr King's dreams right
Speaker 1: exactly taste the King taste King. It tastes like it
Speaker 1: tastes like a dream deferred. You're like talking about the
Speaker 1: new elitis when we have why the cage Bird sings
Speaker 1: oh can sing. Oh yeah, anyway Underground Railroad the official
Speaker 1: beverage of the Underground. You know they're flagrant. It's so
Speaker 1: we laugh now, and then we're gonna be We're gonna
Speaker 1: get together like fucking eight months and be like they
Speaker 1: really fucking they really did that ship. God, they're like
Speaker 1: Harriet Bubbman because Harrie Bubbles up. Yeah, you know her
Speaker 1: nickname was Bubbles because she was a pervescent like this
Speaker 1: drink folks ship he may man, Thanks again so much
Speaker 1: for stopping by. Man, I really appreciate you. Take that time.
Speaker 1: Pieces up, I'll come back. I'm serious. No, no, like,
Speaker 1: I want you here because I mean we you're I'm
Speaker 1: always reading your work and it's fantastic. So the least
Speaker 1: we can do is is to have you to actually
Speaker 1: talk about it. Especially piece or working on is super important.
Speaker 1: Where can people find you and follow you and hear
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Speaker 1: lately fatherhood. Yeah, I love amazing. And is there any
Speaker 1: work of social media that you like? I mean, I
Speaker 1: know you're not using the Twitter, but is there anything
Speaker 1: you've seen maybe a TikTok of meme or something when
Speaker 1: when we play in this last week, I literally took
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Speaker 1: weird episode already, Mr Plato, Jack keith Man, thank you
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Speaker 1: and follow you? What's a tweet that you like? Well,
Speaker 1: you can find me in the streets and at Jackie's
Speaker 1: Neil on everything. Yeah. Yeah. June three, new season of
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Speaker 1: episodes on that other stuff coming down the pipeline, So
Speaker 1: be on the lookout your boy is out here making
Speaker 1: these moves. So you guys know the tweet the twitter
Speaker 1: like little meme or whatever that's going on right now
Speaker 1: where it's like we're canceling each other over. And you
Speaker 1: may not know this because you haven't been on social media,
Speaker 1: but Miles, you you, I'm sure you know this well.
Speaker 1: The tweet I like today is we're canceling each other
Speaker 1: over our titties today posted picting your most cancetable titty
Speaker 1: selfies and it's just a thousand pictures of titties. And
Speaker 1: that's what I like today. That's my tweet. Threads a
Speaker 1: beautiful thread everybody. Some tweets, some tweets I like. First
Speaker 1: one is from little Nozacks that Little Nozacks tweeted really
Speaker 1: enjoyed the Sonic Too movie. Not a fan of Sonic
Speaker 1: Colin knuckles the hard art, but it is what it is,
Speaker 1: very funny. Uh. And then at sus whoever suz whoever
Speaker 1: tweeted wood floor should not be gray, And I feel
Speaker 1: that that's like in decor thing you see so much
Speaker 1: in like these are like like renovated houses where people
Speaker 1: get ray looking wood floors. I'm like, what is that?
Speaker 1: That's a dead tree that was burned and then resurrected.
Speaker 1: I don't need no, no, no, it's this this straight
Speaker 1: dist respect to the trees. Only only easy win for
Speaker 1: Biden right there, just bann that. Yeah, I know right, Hey,
Speaker 1: you don't even have to forgive student debt. Bro, Look
Speaker 1: you can, you can, you can fall go back on
Speaker 1: all your other problems. Is just band Gray Wood Floors.
Speaker 1: Do what you said you're gonna do. You can have
Speaker 1: the country band Wood Gray Floors. Although you know what though,
Speaker 1: it would really fracture the country because that whole like
Speaker 1: chip in Joanna gains set of people who love like
Speaker 1: the renovation shows. That's like they're that's like their d
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Speaker 1: I gotta start the week off because my old ass
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Speaker 1: When I saw a new track Push It T featuring
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Speaker 1: just something about it's just weird to hear them all
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Speaker 1: know what, I'd be lying if I didn't bring a
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