Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to thirty three,
Speaker 1: Episode one of Dirt Atli's Like Guys Stay production of
Speaker 1: I Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take
Speaker 1: a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. It's Monday, April
Speaker 1: eighteen two, which of course means it is National Amateur
Speaker 1: Radio Day NORD for those who NORD, National Animal Crackers Day,
Speaker 1: knacked nacked, you know, just like I like to just
Speaker 1: give it a forward. How do you feel about animal crackers? Oh?
Speaker 1: I loved him as a kid, but I was I
Speaker 1: would think I was like an animal cracker snob if
Speaker 1: it didn't come in the fucking box that had like
Speaker 1: the menagerie, like the traveling Circus cage printed on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was like, this is both of these are not
Speaker 1: animal crackers, even though they were like the simplest shit.
Speaker 1: So when you bring that up, I do have a
Speaker 1: very specific like sense memory, like scoffing at the thing
Speaker 1: that didn't have the animal print on the last What
Speaker 1: is the flavor? Is it just vanilla? Feel like? Because
Speaker 1: my kids have gone through animal cracker phases. We bought
Speaker 1: a like a barrel of them essentially, and they were
Speaker 1: suspiciously held up extremely well for like the year and
Speaker 1: a half that it took us to get through those.
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I mean they're they've been around since
Speaker 1: who knows how long. I feel like it's that old
Speaker 1: nineteenth century snack everybody loved. But yeah, I feel like
Speaker 1: it's all vaguely vanilla. Do they bite the limbs off?
Speaker 1: They don't. They just think I'm cruel. Do you tear
Speaker 1: the that fucker limb from limb? Okay, and that's how
Speaker 1: you eat and then the head goes lest. I feel
Speaker 1: like I'm looking at some modern day ones. They're they're
Speaker 1: not necessarily like, they don't bake them with individual legs
Speaker 1: on some of them. So the kids are losing out
Speaker 1: these days. Yeah, No, it's a it's a more of
Speaker 1: a precision operation these days. So the question that I
Speaker 1: had just tying into Friday's episode is whether there's a
Speaker 1: him and component to the animal crackers, because I was
Speaker 1: I was picking that up when I was eating through
Speaker 1: the barrelful. My kids have like two animal crackers. I
Speaker 1: like my weight and animal crackers over the course of
Speaker 1: the year. But I was picking up a lemon and
Speaker 1: that There does seem to be some speculation at least
Speaker 1: online people saying agreed on lemon flavoring in conjunction with
Speaker 1: vanilla as a big part of what makes that animal
Speaker 1: cracker flavor. So yeah, that's that. May there may be
Speaker 1: there's like a tartness, like a just a whisper of
Speaker 1: some tartness that brings balance to the menagerie. Anyways, I'm
Speaker 1: a lemony snicket either their lemony. I like lemon flavor.
Speaker 1: Nick it out here so lemony, okay, But anyways, my
Speaker 1: name is Jack O'Brien a KB. It's gonna take five,
Speaker 1: a whole lot of yellow. Five is gonna take some
Speaker 1: yellow as five to do it, to do it, to
Speaker 1: do it, to do it, to do it, to do
Speaker 1: it right. The do in there spelled dw I got
Speaker 1: my mind wet off? Do I got my mind wet off, dude.
Speaker 1: That is just a you know, courtesy of James Ray
Speaker 1: song I didn't realize it was originally by James Ray,
Speaker 1: later covered by the late great George Harrison, and of
Speaker 1: course a reference to my first day on the job
Speaker 1: when I slammed a can of do and super producer
Speaker 1: on a was like, oh, I didn't know you like
Speaker 1: to get wet and I was like, well, what's wet?
Speaker 1: She was like butt naked, Baha blasted code red, major
Speaker 1: melon mountain dew. Anyways, Helmsley, I'm thrilled to be joined
Speaker 1: as always by my co host Mr Miles Grab Babies
Speaker 1: like guict in the morning host Sorry Jackoby A. Miles
Speaker 1: faced the world of news and hot takes with their
Speaker 1: doing cold boot Coffee in the afternoon What's Trending and
Speaker 1: the guest host never ending. They may be second rate podcast,
Speaker 1: but at least they post them offense. Do do do do? Anyway?
Speaker 1: Shout out to see w g v oh collab with
Speaker 1: the Fighter of the Night out on Discord for that
Speaker 1: wonderful Tom's Diner inspired a k appropriate cover of that
Speaker 1: song You sound that remix. It's let's bring our guests
Speaker 1: because we got to talk about all this with them.
Speaker 1: We're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by
Speaker 1: a very talented writer, podcast host, TV writer, producer, comedian
Speaker 1: essay Is. She co created, produced, co host the brilliant
Speaker 1: podcast Private Parts on Known. Her writing has been published
Speaker 1: in a few small outlets, such as The Washington Post,
Speaker 1: Tom's Bustle, Hello Giggles. She's written for Amazon's Emmy winning
Speaker 1: animated series Danger and Eggs. Please welcome the hilarious and
Speaker 1: talented Courtney Costa. Okay, I did not prepare a song
Speaker 1: that is fun. Have you heard that TikTok cover of
Speaker 1: Tom's Dinner where the dude comes in and makes it
Speaker 1: all about himself? Oh my, hold on, I'm gonna like,
Speaker 1: I feel like any millennial if they haven't heard it,
Speaker 1: has to hear it just to see how far we've
Speaker 1: come astray. I do feel like our two choices of
Speaker 1: a KS could have been on the radio, like back
Speaker 1: to back and in the late eighties. I was surprised
Speaker 1: you guys don't have to pay licensing fees. Yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: it's well, it's so a tonal that no like modern
Speaker 1: algorithmic copyright sweeping software could ever pick it up. Can't
Speaker 1: tell our intention just based on we end up getting
Speaker 1: money in They're like, actually, it sounds like Susanne Vega
Speaker 1: was covering you. But here this is this this band
Speaker 1: and in May Canter right and Giant Rooks version of this.
Speaker 1: We can cut this out justin just so she can
Speaker 1: hear it. Oh my goodness, what do you think of
Speaker 1: that um material? Yeah? Yeah, that's I think that's all
Speaker 1: we can say is wow, listened to it. I think
Speaker 1: we're cutting out the actual song. But yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like most people know just look in case
Speaker 1: people act because we actually played it. But yes, that
Speaker 1: guy's that guy's voice. You know he's bellowing when he
Speaker 1: comes in with that mine. I don't know something to
Speaker 1: think about that. Yeah, yeah, Well, Courtney, we're going to
Speaker 1: get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
Speaker 1: we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of things we're
Speaker 1: talking about today. We're gonna just check in with the
Speaker 1: record of police in in the United States around the country.
Speaker 1: How are they doing? What are they up to? Not good?
Speaker 1: Not good? Turns out, we're gonna talk about NASA. So
Speaker 1: there was a story that was going around, I guess
Speaker 1: last week or a couple of weeks ago, saying there's
Speaker 1: a trope in sci fi where it's like, once aliens
Speaker 1: find out where we are, it's you know, it's yeah,
Speaker 1: count countdown to the opening scenes of independent stuff. So
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about that people. A lot of people
Speaker 1: are you putting Stephen Hawking's name on the idea that like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're fucked if if they hear from us, we're already fucked,
Speaker 1: is the yeah, And like, honestly, maybe the aliens might
Speaker 1: give us a cleaner way out right. You know they
Speaker 1: were like, yo, we could vaporize this ship in a
Speaker 1: blink of an eye and just make it real easy
Speaker 1: for you, or I mean you could watch it burned down.
Speaker 1: I don't know, you think it'll be up here. We'll
Speaker 1: talk about all of that plenty more. But first, Courtney,
Speaker 1: we do like task our guest, what is something from
Speaker 1: your search history that's revealing about who you are? I
Speaker 1: have been googling so much shit about my thyroid it's
Speaker 1: not even funny, just NonStop hashimotos. Is this cancer? YadA
Speaker 1: yada's um? I feel like that reveals that I am
Speaker 1: a hypochondriac and turns out I do have that real illness,
Speaker 1: though what is the what's the real illness has motives?
Speaker 1: Hashimotos is like precursor I guess I don't fully understand
Speaker 1: to hyperthyroidism and has its own kind of set of
Speaker 1: symptoms and it's autoimmune, so it's like very misunderstood and
Speaker 1: it's just sending me down a total rabbit hole. But hey,
Speaker 1: if anybody in the Zeke Gang has successfully sort of
Speaker 1: naturally cured their hashi motos. I would love to hear
Speaker 1: from you. Is that what what is potentially? How do
Speaker 1: you treat it? Like? Is it so murky that there's
Speaker 1: like a bunch of conflicting ideas or research on it,
Speaker 1: or it's just kind of very it's just not researched enough. Well,
Speaker 1: there's like the endochronologists take, and then there's kind of
Speaker 1: like the natural path take, and there's not there's this
Speaker 1: like the root cause is undetermined, like they don't know
Speaker 1: exactly what it is. And also a ton of women
Speaker 1: get gaslighted while they're trying to seek treatment for this.
Speaker 1: They're like and be included. For two years they've been like, no,
Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong. I had to order my own test
Speaker 1: and be like, I think there is. One of our
Speaker 1: other guests are Norwalks, also had thyroid issues, and you
Speaker 1: know she she had said She's like it just felt
Speaker 1: like I didn't was out of it for two years
Speaker 1: before someone actually was like, hold on, let's let's figure
Speaker 1: this out, because the same thing was being said and
Speaker 1: more like, no, it just sounds like you're just tripping. Also,
Speaker 1: they just look at me and they're like, you're healthy,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I swear to God, it's not. Can
Speaker 1: you dig a little deeper? Right? The sensation within my
Speaker 1: body is not what is showing up on whatever checklist. Here.
Speaker 1: This ship is leaking. I can feel it. So let's
Speaker 1: talk about that. Well. I hope, man, I hope you
Speaker 1: were able to get some answers and and some relief. Yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you, pretty cool man for the US Motives is
Speaker 1: a cool name. Yeah, what is something you take? Is overrated?
Speaker 1: Cotchella never been but seen enough Instagram post to know
Speaker 1: that that's all I need. Like, I'm ready for this
Speaker 1: weekend to be over. Is there? Is it just one
Speaker 1: weekend this year? They're two weekends? No, I think there
Speaker 1: are two. But yeah, I feel like this week has
Speaker 1: been intense with the posting. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: guys have seen the same thing. I saw something that
Speaker 1: said the prices took an absolute dump when they swapped
Speaker 1: Kanye out. And now I'm like, this is usually how
Speaker 1: I used to go to Coachella. Was it would like
Speaker 1: it starts on a Friday. I would basically be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: let's just drive down to India and just check Craigslist
Speaker 1: because there's gonna be some sad person on the way there.
Speaker 1: He was like, please just take this for something. But yeah,
Speaker 1: and you can watch it on YouTube. Now, why this Kanye,
Speaker 1: What's what's going on? Not much, don't worry, is just
Speaker 1: some stuff went down here. He's just generally not well,
Speaker 1: it's the gist of that one. But yeah, because now
Speaker 1: it's the weekend and Swedish house Mafia because there's no
Speaker 1: Travis Scott and there's no Kanye m So yeah, but
Speaker 1: you can still appropriate a headdress and wear that, which
Speaker 1: I feel like it's kind of the main point of
Speaker 1: the festival. Yeah. Dana Donnelly, who was on the week before,
Speaker 1: she tweeted something She's like, why don't need to go
Speaker 1: to coach hello, when I can just do shrooms at
Speaker 1: urban outfitures. Somebody was like, stopped, my wife has a
Speaker 1: hat that I think is cool. And somebody in like
Speaker 1: sweats and sunglasses but like nice sweats and sunglasses stopped
Speaker 1: her on the street and was like, oh yeah, you
Speaker 1: you're ready for a coach hella. Huh. She was like,
Speaker 1: all right, I guess I have to throw this fucking
Speaker 1: hat out. She stabbed the person to death with the hat.
Speaker 1: Wait what is it? Because it let me guess it's
Speaker 1: like a wide it's like a brimmed hat yet but
Speaker 1: it's yeah whatever, I know the vibes. I don't think
Speaker 1: that's necessary. That feels like a real shady swing to
Speaker 1: just be like, oh somebody. I think they were hitting
Speaker 1: owners so like it wasn't. I don't think they were
Speaker 1: like somebody looks ready for coach right there, right now.
Speaker 1: She came back like upset. It was like they think
Speaker 1: they think this hat is from Coachella. They think it's
Speaker 1: a coach. Those are like chugue millennial problems, I think
Speaker 1: with the real problem would be if she was like happy,
Speaker 1: she was like yeah, that's right right, I'm ready. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: She's like I'm gonna go pick some daisies to make
Speaker 1: a sick flower. Harry Styles is there. I would be
Speaker 1: remiss if I didn't mention that Harry Styles was one
Speaker 1: of the headliners. I've only been once. It was the
Speaker 1: year that Outcasts was like having their first show back together.
Speaker 1: I went the first weekend because I was like, I
Speaker 1: want to be there for the first outcome. I think
Speaker 1: it was earlier and I don't know. It seems like
Speaker 1: a long time ago. Maybe it was. I was there, Jack,
Speaker 1: but they hadn't figured out the sound equipment yet. Coach
Speaker 1: HELLI fuck them basically, and it sounded really bad and
Speaker 1: that was not great. The second weekend apparently it was great.
Speaker 1: But I think the artists have to pay for like
Speaker 1: their own whole sound set up and like stage situation.
Speaker 1: I heard like it can almost bankrupt you. I think
Speaker 1: if it's more than the one that they're providing, like
Speaker 1: then it's like, okay, well then bring in your own infrastructure.
Speaker 1: They're like, isn't that part of well we're paying? So yeah.
Speaker 1: Just check it out on YouTube, folks. If you missed
Speaker 1: it this weekend, it'll be on next weekend, and you know,
Speaker 1: get your feeling of Doja Cat and the Gang. Ja
Speaker 1: Cat and the Gang my favorite, the right behind Garfield
Speaker 1: and Heathcliff and the Gang. Do Jaquet and the Gang
Speaker 1: one of my favorite cartoons from my childhood. What is
Speaker 1: something you think is underrated? Cordney Cora? Sorry not sorry,
Speaker 1: but I love, Yes, I love I check it almost
Speaker 1: every day. They send me emails and I'm like, this
Speaker 1: is irresistible. It's just people asking like wild hypothetical ship.
Speaker 1: There's no illusion of fact checking, right, Oh totally yeah,
Speaker 1: Like am I gregnant? Is like, you know all off
Speaker 1: Cora type stuff? What's like the what's the wildest ships
Speaker 1: you've seen on Cora that you're like, this is why
Speaker 1: I'll come back for this. Oh I did screamshot something
Speaker 1: for you guys. You know, it'll just be like people
Speaker 1: being like do I have cancer? And um. But a
Speaker 1: little known fact about Abraham Lincoln. Not only was Abraham
Speaker 1: Lincoln the tallest president at six four, but he was
Speaker 1: the president with the largest hands. And then there's legit
Speaker 1: a picture of this. No, I like that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Wait where did they have? Was he doing
Speaker 1: like a Javan curse at the draft? Like holding a
Speaker 1: ruler in between his pinkie? And I think somebody I
Speaker 1: just took up snapped a picture while they were catching
Speaker 1: and catching the hands they I don't know who they
Speaker 1: got him because this is a laying them out. That's
Speaker 1: a mold. Okay, it's a mold. But and I don't
Speaker 1: know if those are real hands. That's the whole thing.
Speaker 1: Who cares? There used to be some like real morbid
Speaker 1: ship where they would and I think they did with
Speaker 1: him like tour with the body of a dead famous person.
Speaker 1: Oh god, yeah, Oh so that was like the Tupac
Speaker 1: Coachella set before it was the Tupac Coachelli. Yeah, exactly. Wow.
Speaker 1: Just going off the top three here, what's what's the
Speaker 1: top three? Because I've never been to Cora, like as
Speaker 1: a destination site. It's always been accidental, search engine optimized,
Speaker 1: like what if I have a question, then Cora pops up?
Speaker 1: But top three? What do shooting ranges do with all
Speaker 1: the brass and the bullets left behind by patrons? That
Speaker 1: was that is from somebody answering I own an indoor
Speaker 1: range shoot, so like that's somebody being like, here's an
Speaker 1: interesting question about me. Let me talk to a little bit.
Speaker 1: Kenna d n a test created diet plan for you.
Speaker 1: So that's interesting to find out because I know that's
Speaker 1: a claim been made. And then the big one. How
Speaker 1: cold was the water that Leo DiCaprio, nicknamed Asais, was
Speaker 1: in during the filming of his final scene in Titanic.
Speaker 1: I'm in a Titanic phase where I'm reading up on
Speaker 1: the disaster and the film. The real water the night
Speaker 1: the Titanic sunk was twenty eight degrees and then they're like,
Speaker 1: was Leo really about it? Was? It was right? Right? Right? No,
Speaker 1: it wasn't. It was not hot. No, they shot that
Speaker 1: in Mexico. Yeah, but the water was fucking fifty degrees
Speaker 1: they were when they shot it. Yeah, when they shot it,
Speaker 1: they wore wet suits under their costumes to keep them
Speaker 1: wor good for him. That's this is a core of fact.
Speaker 1: This is a core e fact. Yeah. So yeah, no,
Speaker 1: this is a great top top three. I found something
Speaker 1: that would occupy me and that I'll probably bring up
Speaker 1: in a conversation in the next Wait, what do they
Speaker 1: what do they do with all the spent casings at
Speaker 1: a shooting range. I don't know. It looks like they
Speaker 1: like get ground up. Let me see, backstop is shredded
Speaker 1: rubber over steel. The debris other than letter rubber is
Speaker 1: disposed of as hazardous material. Here's a picture of one
Speaker 1: of our early mining efforts showing about ten tons of lead.
Speaker 1: So I guess they're like digging the bullets out of
Speaker 1: the like, right. But but the casings where the person
Speaker 1: is firing the gun that that are ejected after shooting
Speaker 1: occasionally steal the brass and the collection bucket left behind
Speaker 1: by other shooters. Oh, I thought they had like a
Speaker 1: second life, Like you know those brass brats that keep
Speaker 1: the scripts together in Hollywood. That's where those shell casings going. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that would be interesting that someone's like, I'm five eight
Speaker 1: pounds and eight six eight hundred calories daily for a
Speaker 1: few months. Now, what happens if I continue doing this? No,
Speaker 1: so it gets weird on there, it gets super weird. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a whole spectrum. Man, It's the Internet. You can
Speaker 1: find right after a nice bright spot can be darkness
Speaker 1: the way it is. I like the brand loyalty. I
Speaker 1: like that you get like the emails from the site
Speaker 1: and you're like you have a automated email relationship that
Speaker 1: when you see the email, you're like as opposed to
Speaker 1: like these motherfucker's right, You're like, yeah, it's always something interesting.
Speaker 1: And I don't know how I wound up on the list,
Speaker 1: Like I think I just clicked on too many things
Speaker 1: on Cora and they were like, we're going to start
Speaker 1: sending her the emails. They were like, Yo, Courtney is
Speaker 1: no love. That's that's cool though, all right, should we
Speaker 1: take a break. Let's take a break and we'll be
Speaker 1: right back to talk about why the police are the
Speaker 1: fucking worst. And we're back. And the second we cut
Speaker 1: to break, Miles was like, I'm looking at this Coachell lineup,
Speaker 1: and I think I went back to Miles who used
Speaker 1: to just pull up trying to get a cheap ticket.
Speaker 1: And if if I get for a discount, if I
Speaker 1: could see some of these artists, I'm not mad. Actually,
Speaker 1: like I want to see, Like, I want to see
Speaker 1: Denzel Curry, right, Denzel Curry's there. I want to see bad, bad,
Speaker 1: not good. I want to see fucking Flume. Fuck it
Speaker 1: if Fat Boys slam Hop Molly in the Saharitan, when
Speaker 1: when the drop hits on Flume, dude, bro, if he
Speaker 1: plays the Tennis court Lord remix, it's over City Girl
Speaker 1: Core Day. I'm like, the thing is, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: pay full price for this. But if in my mind
Speaker 1: the situation is I see a thing on Craig's like,
Speaker 1: please help me, I'll give you tickets. I feel like
Speaker 1: they should sponsor you guys as influencers. Yeah, people who
Speaker 1: like yeah, who talk ship up until the last second. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess it's pretty cool. I can hear all funked up.
Speaker 1: Our marketing policy is all about nagging. We like to
Speaker 1: talk shit about your product and then come on, O
Speaker 1: Jamie x X is there. Yeah, there's some good millennious
Speaker 1: Japanese breakfast. Okay. I'm like, okay, you know, Joji, my
Speaker 1: little half Japanese king, can't gizzard in the Lizard Wizard
Speaker 1: shout out Australian psych rock. Okay, anyway, too late, don't
Speaker 1: have time. Yeah, I mean next weekend. You know, maybe
Speaker 1: I can say goods this weekend on streaming and then yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll see come back if it. If it's bad and
Speaker 1: tickets are depressed, I may fuck it. I may just
Speaker 1: for the good of the show take my zoom recorder
Speaker 1: to Coachella and just bring back some kind of audio
Speaker 1: package of me at Coachella. That would be amazing. It's
Speaker 1: confused as ship. The people demand it. Yeah, alright, weft
Speaker 1: the crop fund it. We'll see. I got a few
Speaker 1: days to figure it out, all right. So we just
Speaker 1: wanted to check in on a couple of stories around
Speaker 1: the police. Obviously, there is another horrifying instance of police
Speaker 1: murdering an unarmed black man. Patrick Loyola and Graham Rapids
Speaker 1: at this time on camera, so there might actually be
Speaker 1: some justice. But in case, you saw the press conference
Speaker 1: with the mayor giving the concerned body language and the
Speaker 1: looking away and like, you know, just the general response
Speaker 1: to the ship seems to be one bad apple, just
Speaker 1: a tragic, one off situation. Graham Rabids police have been
Speaker 1: pulling guns on innocent people for the past five years,
Speaker 1: like to the point that there have been like many
Speaker 1: complaints in officers searching for a middle aged woman one
Speaker 1: first having and said handcuffed and a eleven year old
Speaker 1: girl at gunpoint while she was just leaving a house.
Speaker 1: Those officers were not disciplined. Months before that, Graham Rapids
Speaker 1: officers held five innocent teenagers at gunpoint, local outlets reported,
Speaker 1: and officer was suspended for two days after shooting a
Speaker 1: protester in the face with a gas canister. So the
Speaker 1: first of all, it probably doesn't need to be said
Speaker 1: the eleven year old child who was automatically treated like
Speaker 1: a suspect was a person of color. The shooting of
Speaker 1: the protester in the face, I want to come back
Speaker 1: to in a second, but yeah, it's yeah, that's that's
Speaker 1: that's the latest hook into being like, oh, the police
Speaker 1: are murderous, you know, fucking monsters, and the this death
Speaker 1: especially is disturbing in the manner which had happened. It's
Speaker 1: even this just description spooks me because this officer was
Speaker 1: on top of him and then shot him in the
Speaker 1: head and with the victim face down. Yeah yeah, and
Speaker 1: but yet or we're still like dragging our feet to
Speaker 1: just be like, oh god, let's let's investigate what happened.
Speaker 1: What was the cops justification. I mean, he pulled him
Speaker 1: over because of registration being out of date. How does
Speaker 1: it go from that to shooting someone in the back
Speaker 1: of the head because he was trying to arrest him,
Speaker 1: I guess, and he was resisting and when he I
Speaker 1: believe he also was like on top of this guy
Speaker 1: who was face down and he was struggling to like
Speaker 1: he was like trying to just get out of this position.
Speaker 1: That's maybe probably having trouble breathing or something. The gun
Speaker 1: comes out and then this guy's just shot in his head. Um,
Speaker 1: and this is you know, it's like wild too, because
Speaker 1: there were so many other stories in the last week
Speaker 1: that deserved everyone's attention, and then it's like half of
Speaker 1: it was like still Will Smith and Chris Rock talk,
Speaker 1: yeah and whatever. But yeah, so that's that get that
Speaker 1: takes us to this moment today. Right, So then we
Speaker 1: have just a their aspect of the police that I
Speaker 1: think is undercovered, and that is just how fucking bad
Speaker 1: they are at their jobs, like that, what they're funded
Speaker 1: beyond anything that has happened in the history of human
Speaker 1: civilization when it comes to a police force. And let's
Speaker 1: just run through the events of the subway shooter arrest.
Speaker 1: I think this tweet sums it up if I understand correctly.
Speaker 1: The subway shooter dropped his weapon, car, keys, and a
Speaker 1: credit card at the scene of the crime, called in
Speaker 1: his location to an m YPD tipline, chilled at a
Speaker 1: McDonald's until he got tired of waiting for them to
Speaker 1: show up, and was apprehended by a guy named Zach
Speaker 1: That that seems to be how it went down. There's
Speaker 1: you know, details of that that are backed up by
Speaker 1: the New York Times. And yeah, I mean Alec Karri
Speaker 1: Kitzanis had a good threat on this where yeah, I'll
Speaker 1: just read directly from it, but he was, like, you know,
Speaker 1: much of the debate about cops rightly focuses on their
Speaker 1: millions of physical and sexual assaults, thousands of murders, rampant
Speaker 1: over time, sickly fraud, bribery, perjury, high rates of domestic abuse,
Speaker 1: links to WHIDSU premises, and filtration of left wing movements, etcetera.
Speaker 1: But they're also historically incompetent. That that's an important detail.
Speaker 1: Even with greater and greater budgets and technology, unaccountable US
Speaker 1: police bureaucracies are getting worse and worse at what they
Speaker 1: say is their core function. And there's this graph about
Speaker 1: like homicide clearance rates from and it's just down, down, down,
Speaker 1: down down. They're just getting worse and worse as it
Speaker 1: becomes clear and clear to them, like no, you're the
Speaker 1: thing that you're actually paid for is to just enforce
Speaker 1: you know, property crimes and basically do the bidding of
Speaker 1: the ownership class and like clear clearing homicide that happens
Speaker 1: between you know, people who are poor, you know, they
Speaker 1: they that's not what they're there for, basically, No, No,
Speaker 1: that's that's something called justice. We're sorry, we're we're security
Speaker 1: cards for private property that like that graph of the
Speaker 1: comic side clearance rates. Now, I'm sure, right, in the sixties,
Speaker 1: there was probably like just like we've seen now, there's
Speaker 1: cops just like I don't know, fuck it, just say
Speaker 1: that fucking guy did it, so we can close the case.
Speaker 1: But there's something odd though. Two is I believe between
Speaker 1: ninet technology also got better too, presumably to make it
Speaker 1: easier for people to solve crimes like properly. Yet it's
Speaker 1: still going down and whether that's a function of the
Speaker 1: volume of chrome whatever, but I don't think that's really
Speaker 1: the case, because what we're looking at is we have
Speaker 1: near historic lows for for most crime. But even despite that,
Speaker 1: you know, eleven basically eleven billion dollar budgets and the
Speaker 1: n Y p D and the l A p D respectively,
Speaker 1: like they're each hauling in that kind of money, and
Speaker 1: we still get like this kind of argument from these
Speaker 1: people that's like, well, they're defunding the police, yeah, are
Speaker 1: they're not. As a woman, the thing that I love
Speaker 1: to see is that most of the major US police
Speaker 1: departments made explicit choices not to test a hundred thousand
Speaker 1: rape kits so that hundreds of thousands of rape kits
Speaker 1: so that they could do homeless arrests and drug possession,
Speaker 1: drug possession. Yeah, that's from that Alex karrit Santa's thread,
Speaker 1: and yeah it's I mean I think that ties directly
Speaker 1: back into that homicide rate and the you know what
Speaker 1: what Miles was talking about with like the we have
Speaker 1: the we have the technology now to like use DNA
Speaker 1: evidence to stop sexual assault and or at least like
Speaker 1: stop more of it than has historically ever been possible.
Speaker 1: Instead of doing that, it's drug possession and homeless arrests
Speaker 1: the Anti Terrorism Task Force for them YPD. While the
Speaker 1: shooter was trying to turn himself in by calling the
Speaker 1: tip line that they had set up, the NYPD Terrorism
Speaker 1: Task Force was rating a homeless encampment and arresting unhoused people.
Speaker 1: I think what's even more damning, right, or not even
Speaker 1: more damning, But what adds to it is that along
Speaker 1: with the technology that's gone up, it got it's so
Speaker 1: good that regular citizens can have an idea of who
Speaker 1: a suspect is and then just do the work for
Speaker 1: the police for them, Like you're saying, they're so busy
Speaker 1: doing this other ship of just brutalizing the unhoused. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: a guy who is doing like a consultation for security
Speaker 1: camera installation. Hey that hey, yo, that's the guy. You know,
Speaker 1: that's the guy. And he was telling people you'll get
Speaker 1: the funk away. And it's wild to see that press
Speaker 1: conference where this regular guy had intervened to save or
Speaker 1: not save people, but I apprehend him. He was warning
Speaker 1: other people stay clear of this guy. This he's gonna
Speaker 1: do something bad. This is the person from the subway
Speaker 1: fucking tries top him, flags down a cop and does
Speaker 1: the work for it because he was just a generally
Speaker 1: aware of person in New York and that that was
Speaker 1: the law enforcement that day. That the people who needed
Speaker 1: medical care in the fucking subway stations were mostly being
Speaker 1: tended to buy transit workers and other So there there
Speaker 1: was an NYPD officer during the shooting who told another
Speaker 1: bystanderd a call nine one one, this is happening right
Speaker 1: after they made a push to like put more police
Speaker 1: in the subway system and like just generally, like broadly
Speaker 1: the way the story has gone like there after, and
Speaker 1: you know, the protests following the George Floyd video, the
Speaker 1: there was a conversation about police abolition and that got
Speaker 1: co opted by like people like Mattie Glaciers. Basically a
Speaker 1: lot of the New York Times editorial staff Washington Post
Speaker 1: editorial staff who came through and basically said, like, more
Speaker 1: police equals lower crime. This is a fact. So like, I,
Speaker 1: as much as your ideas are like nice sounding, we're
Speaker 1: over here with the adults, and we're telling you that
Speaker 1: more police equals lower crime. And so show me some studies.
Speaker 1: Can you show me the studies that and it's it's there.
Speaker 1: There are studies that say that they're usually provided by
Speaker 1: the police and like funded by the police, and there
Speaker 1: are more studies, and in fact, the academic consensus is
Speaker 1: the opposite, that like investing in police creates a short
Speaker 1: term like either h flatline or slight drop in crime,
Speaker 1: but then eventually, over time it goes up because it
Speaker 1: is fucking poisonous for a community to have the authority
Speaker 1: figures walking around with guns threatening everyone. That's poisonous, and
Speaker 1: then separating families as like one of their primary recourses.
Speaker 1: And also like ignoring the root causes of crime. That's
Speaker 1: like the I think the most fucked up part of
Speaker 1: when you have a you know, supposed paper of record
Speaker 1: trying to examine something as complex as crime and only say, well,
Speaker 1: according to my friend the fucking cops. This is what's
Speaker 1: going on the end. Not let's look at crime. Crime. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, people are talking about crime. Let's look at
Speaker 1: the statistics. Here are the statistics on crime. Here what
Speaker 1: the police is saying causing crime? Here, what's sociologists, psychologist, psychiatrists,
Speaker 1: people who understand human nature. What they attribute to factors
Speaker 1: that contribute to somebody going extra legal outside the bounds
Speaker 1: of the law. Here's what other countries. Here's what statistics
Speaker 1: from other countries where they have gone from. Not what
Speaker 1: we have because again or what we have is unprecedented
Speaker 1: in the history of human civilization. But from having a
Speaker 1: front line of armed police force to disarming the police
Speaker 1: and seeing crime go away down and everything like respond
Speaker 1: very positively. Like a couple of that with fucking studies
Speaker 1: on U b I or people getting supplemental incomes and
Speaker 1: the stress that alleviates for them psychologically, the things that
Speaker 1: they're able to do, the things they don't have to
Speaker 1: do anymore because they were able to find some source
Speaker 1: of money to be able to just provide the minimums
Speaker 1: of food and then talk to me about human behavior
Speaker 1: because they're just that's like, I mean, God, I wish
Speaker 1: more like more people were fucking outraged to be like
Speaker 1: the fucking even the people who want to say the
Speaker 1: new new places like the New York Times or Washington Post,
Speaker 1: they're like fucking Fox News. What Fox News is for conservatives,
Speaker 1: that's what they do for the concept of law enforcement.
Speaker 1: They're never going to tell you something real about what's
Speaker 1: happening there, because the whole point of that fucking place
Speaker 1: is to maintain this narrative of police are being good
Speaker 1: and it's just a couple of bad apples, rather than
Speaker 1: zooming the funk out and being like, this is a
Speaker 1: bad fucking treat. Cut, cut it the funk down, and
Speaker 1: let's find some other solutions. Because there's plenty of fucking
Speaker 1: research that says ship that works in the City of
Speaker 1: New York is spending three billion dollars short of what
Speaker 1: most NGO say it would take to stop global hunger
Speaker 1: for a year, right the Like, that's what we're looking
Speaker 1: at in terms of the kind of what the effects
Speaker 1: that money has, rather than like fucking more a p
Speaker 1: c S for the fucking cops, Like what did you
Speaker 1: guys ever hear about that? I think it was freaking omics.
Speaker 1: But basically like I think it was related to abortion
Speaker 1: and like when women could have abortions, and like, I
Speaker 1: don't know after Roe v. Wade, like the murder rate dropped,
Speaker 1: it was geificantly. I think I think that's pretty controversial,
Speaker 1: like the there the science of it, the conclusion. Yeah,
Speaker 1: their conclusions on that are a little controversial in terms
Speaker 1: of because yeah, I know that that fucking blew my
Speaker 1: mind when I read it too. But I don't know
Speaker 1: exactly what the controversy is because I think like partially
Speaker 1: people are like it kind of implies eugenics type thing,
Speaker 1: and also people are like that that was also a
Speaker 1: time when crime across the board was like going way down. Okay,
Speaker 1: fair enough, but as you know, someone who's you know,
Speaker 1: like an unwanted child is an enormous amount of stress.
Speaker 1: And I think when we're talking about like root causes
Speaker 1: and not having enough money and poverty and all those
Speaker 1: things contributing, it's like yeah, for sure, yeah, yeah. And
Speaker 1: you look at even just now, because Democrats and Congress
Speaker 1: couldn't even get their ship together to extend the child
Speaker 1: tax credit, there's are now millions of children are now
Speaker 1: with the snap of a finger or with the lack
Speaker 1: of fucking energy or vigor from from politicians. Are millions
Speaker 1: of kids are now in poverty again because that little
Speaker 1: bit of money is all it takes to like when
Speaker 1: someone's on a knife edge to either be in poverty
Speaker 1: or just out of it being able to eke out
Speaker 1: somewhat normal life. But I I also just can't believe
Speaker 1: the lack of coverage for the way that the police
Speaker 1: have responded to the idea of defunding the police, which
Speaker 1: again means like funding the police lesson investing, you know,
Speaker 1: community solutions. That the police have openly responded to our
Speaker 1: outrage over their murdering of innocent people by being more brutal,
Speaker 1: failing to respond when crimes are in progress, Like that's
Speaker 1: something that I know was happening, because I like no
Speaker 1: people to whom that has happened, Like over the course
Speaker 1: of the like two years now, that that continues to
Speaker 1: be a refrain for the police, like yes, sorry, we
Speaker 1: were defunded, and when actually actuality, They've continued to be
Speaker 1: funded at levels like unprecedented in the history of human civilization.
Speaker 1: There's been no restraint added to their tactics. They've continued
Speaker 1: to murder unarmed men and women of color with impunity,
Speaker 1: and their attitude seems to be that they're at war
Speaker 1: with the people who they're policing now more than ever
Speaker 1: because the people who they're policing dared criticize them, Like,
Speaker 1: how is that not a story that is constantly being covered,
Speaker 1: like it's an unbelievable fucking threat to Yeah, it's while
Speaker 1: when you have throughout all this, right, we also have
Speaker 1: stories like man, flight attendants are dealing with the rowdiest
Speaker 1: motherfucker's on planes than ever before, and what did they do?
Speaker 1: Some airlines said, Okay, this is the situation. We have
Speaker 1: people who have to deal with the public. The flight
Speaker 1: attendants have to deal with the passengers. We found out
Speaker 1: from the from the flight attendants who have to deal
Speaker 1: with this that their lives are difficult and more chaotic
Speaker 1: because they're dealing with rowdy people. How do we turn
Speaker 1: down the rowdiness from the passengers? The fucking airlines had
Speaker 1: the wherewithal to say, maybe we serve less alcohol because
Speaker 1: that seems to be getting people turned up. There seems
Speaker 1: to be some stimulant. There seems to be some additive
Speaker 1: factor to the equation that is increasing the chaos that
Speaker 1: our flight attendants are experiencing when they take to the skies.
Speaker 1: If I feel like you could, you could extend that
Speaker 1: to how police work, right, they say, damn, people are
Speaker 1: fucking turned up out there is the is the solution?
Speaker 1: More flight attendants? No, they said, less harm the flight
Speaker 1: attendant with bigger RoboCop flight attendant. Right, And in this version, right,
Speaker 1: someone would say, what's making people act this way? It's
Speaker 1: they experienced severe lack Yeah, so because of that, that's
Speaker 1: that's putting people into mental states or or situations of
Speaker 1: having to survive what You're seeing them do things that
Speaker 1: you call illegal. So maybe to do that, you turn
Speaker 1: down the fucking heat that even gets somebody to the
Speaker 1: point where they considered a steal or whatever. Like we're
Speaker 1: talking like like the kinds of low level crime that
Speaker 1: the New York Times and ship want to act like.
Speaker 1: That's why the fucking whole world is going down? But
Speaker 1: why not address that because that seems to be the
Speaker 1: key here. But again, like any disingenuous attempt at solving
Speaker 1: a problem, it's just gonna say, well, let's just do
Speaker 1: the thing that benefits us the most. Yeah, we need
Speaker 1: to be paid more. Actually, that's the problem. We're not
Speaker 1: paid more to fucking kill people. And if I if
Speaker 1: they gave a funk, they would actually be coming about
Speaker 1: real solutions how to address what causes crime rather than
Speaker 1: be like, we need more community based police overtime. Let's
Speaker 1: get that overtime, sweet sweet overtime. But the bystanders like
Speaker 1: coming through and helping one another, Like, well, that sounds
Speaker 1: like a weird like a weird thing to just be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you guys are on your own type thing. This At
Speaker 1: the first of all, it does appear that way even
Speaker 1: while we're funding them. YPD like to be the sixth
Speaker 1: highest funded military in the world or whatever it is.
Speaker 1: But there's also like the first of all, like anyone
Speaker 1: who wants to call it a good cop, that's like,
Speaker 1: that's great. Like if there's a if there's a good
Speaker 1: a good person who is like smart and resourceful and
Speaker 1: working as a police officer, I want them doing a
Speaker 1: different job like that is helping the community, like or
Speaker 1: just as an unarmed like person who is trying to
Speaker 1: help people out, like like I'm sure they would be
Speaker 1: good at fucking helping solve things if they If there
Speaker 1: is such a good thing, are we supposed to get
Speaker 1: more unarmed like peacekeepers. Yeah, I feel like there's no
Speaker 1: follow through on those stories, like you don't see that.
Speaker 1: And then but the thing is there, right, there's no
Speaker 1: follow through on the stories because it does happen and
Speaker 1: the results are yeah, sh it worked, right, Well, that's
Speaker 1: not that that that doesn't lead because it doesn't lead, right,
Speaker 1: And I think that's where like we have to I
Speaker 1: really ask ourselves, so the kinds of stories we engage with,
Speaker 1: like what's actually reflecting our reality and how much are
Speaker 1: we getting absolutely absolutely headfucked by disingenuous actors who are
Speaker 1: a inco hoots with the people who like cover up
Speaker 1: the physical manifestations of the failures of capitalism the police, okay,
Speaker 1: and they go to their friends who have the fucking
Speaker 1: ears and eyes of most people in the country that
Speaker 1: the media, and just keep reinforcing this thing, which is
Speaker 1: it's not inequality, it's not the fucking police, it's not this,
Speaker 1: it's not the real fucking thing, and just keep us
Speaker 1: in this fun house where we look at these fucked
Speaker 1: up versions of our realities. But so many people are
Speaker 1: unable to arrive at the conclusion because they're just served
Speaker 1: this distorted ship over and over, and I get a
Speaker 1: repetition becomes reality. There's so many people who think everything
Speaker 1: is so fucked up everywhere, and it's like on an
Speaker 1: emotional level, yeah, and I'm not gonna argue with that.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of suffering out there. But like with
Speaker 1: when these very opportunistic stories come out which are trying
Speaker 1: to like keep progress from occurring or to take back
Speaker 1: the gains of like progressive like lawmakers who are trying
Speaker 1: to say, like we're incarcerating too many people. That's just
Speaker 1: when I don't know, we're just we just get an
Speaker 1: increasingly fucked up, untenable situation. And my desires for us
Speaker 1: to really be able to more people, to be able
Speaker 1: to really look at this and kind of think of,
Speaker 1: like what where our part is in this whole equation.
Speaker 1: And we've talked before about that. Eugene Oregon. I think
Speaker 1: it was like community police force, those like basically they're
Speaker 1: two help people who are having started out with like
Speaker 1: trying to help people who are having bad drug experiences.
Speaker 1: But then it became like we're just here too. You know,
Speaker 1: if you need somebody and you don't want that somebody
Speaker 1: to come in with a gun pointed at you then
Speaker 1: like that's what we're here for. And like the profiles
Speaker 1: read of them, the stuff that they're doing is just
Speaker 1: things that one can do if they're just patient and
Speaker 1: willing to listen and like learn what is happening in
Speaker 1: the situation, which it sounds like is what is working
Speaker 1: in this subway short or thing. It's like, okay, well,
Speaker 1: I'm you know, I may have some CPR training and
Speaker 1: there's a person who's bleeding right there, so I'm going
Speaker 1: to put that training into effect, or you know, Zach
Speaker 1: coming through and just being like that's the person from
Speaker 1: all those news bulletins. I'm going to bring attention to
Speaker 1: the fact that that's who that is. Yeah, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: I mean, you look, there's there and there's so many
Speaker 1: studies like about what what armed police versus unarmed police do,
Speaker 1: like in general, not like broadly over what's better for crime,
Speaker 1: but like there's so many things about saying that these
Speaker 1: interventions you're talking about how effective they are that and
Speaker 1: also on the other side that militarized police forces do
Speaker 1: not enhance public safety or reduce crime at all. The
Speaker 1: only thing militarized police forces do is funk up their
Speaker 1: reputation in the public and that's all it is. No,
Speaker 1: they can't even point to the fact. It's like, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: when we send these people out look like fucking Seal
Speaker 1: Team six to go bust a fucking meth dealer or
Speaker 1: something that that's not that that's bringing crime down. It isn't. Yeah.
Speaker 1: There there's this other story Jam hit us with about
Speaker 1: the police real quick that I got I gotta touch
Speaker 1: on because it's right. They keep doing things where when
Speaker 1: they see themselves where somebody taking a video of them,
Speaker 1: rather than being like, well, that's their right, you know,
Speaker 1: we we work for them, instead of doing that, they
Speaker 1: start playing copyrighted music as loud as they can because
Speaker 1: somebody told them that that will get that will make
Speaker 1: it so the video can't be posted on social media.
Speaker 1: So uninherently like trying to it's like them wiping their
Speaker 1: prints like it's a it's a thing a guilty person does,
Speaker 1: like trying to like funk with the evidence of their wrongdoing,
Speaker 1: like right off the bat, which just uninherently creepy and
Speaker 1: like menacing thing to do. There's an example from a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks back where I was trying to access
Speaker 1: bodycam footage at a Beverly Hills police station and filming
Speaker 1: the encounter on Instagram, and the copy was dealing with
Speaker 1: whipped out his phone and started playing Sublime, the notorious
Speaker 1: pro police band Sublime. And then that same police department
Speaker 1: previously did something similar within My Life the Beatles song
Speaker 1: the like really heartfelt Beatles songs Hious. And then there
Speaker 1: was one that went viral last June where a cops
Speaker 1: started playing Taylor Swift, which completely backfired. The clip promptly
Speaker 1: went viral, was uploaded YouTube, where it is still available
Speaker 1: now and has been viewed millions of times. There's also
Speaker 1: like a week ago, cops pulled up to a residential
Speaker 1: street in Santa Anna at eleven o'clock at night while
Speaker 1: investigating a stolen vehicle and started absolutely blasting a playlist
Speaker 1: of Disney songs, and the officer on the scene admitted
Speaker 1: it was to create copyright infringement. When one of the
Speaker 1: people whose children he woke up was a city councilman
Speaker 1: who he recognized and was like apparently intimidated by, and
Speaker 1: so I was like, I'm sorry, okay, and the guy
Speaker 1: like made him apologize to all the families, like yeah,
Speaker 1: it was wild. When that guy came out, he's like,
Speaker 1: do you know who I am? The city council person,
Speaker 1: you know whatever, dead whatever like to do. This is
Speaker 1: gonna get copy blocked anyway, narrator. In fact, it did
Speaker 1: not get copyright blocked. So this is like the other
Speaker 1: thing that I just want to point out about. This
Speaker 1: is the competence the most powerful individual actors in our society,
Speaker 1: like individual citizens with the right to use deadly force
Speaker 1: without consequence, are being run with the integrity and tactical
Speaker 1: understanding of truth of like an elderly relative who believes
Speaker 1: like email forwards like that. Right, this whole strategy is
Speaker 1: based on nothing. It does not work, has never worked.
Speaker 1: YouTube claims you're allowed to use whatever music you want
Speaker 1: in the background of something, like if it's just incidental
Speaker 1: like this. So like guy, and here's a clip of
Speaker 1: your friend at a bar, and you're like, hey, put
Speaker 1: it on YouTube, But it's not actually like loaded into
Speaker 1: part of like the audio track. The sweepers don't pick
Speaker 1: it up in that way. And if they do, the
Speaker 1: other part is they'll just put a pre roll ad
Speaker 1: in front of it, because then they'll say, Okay, this
Speaker 1: is actually a Beastie Boys track. We'll just put an
Speaker 1: ad in front of it so then the Beastie Boys
Speaker 1: can monetize it. But you can continue, well, we'll make
Speaker 1: your police brutality video wildly available, widely available. We just
Speaker 1: need to monetize it, which is also fucking bizarre land already.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's like assholes in the I watched the
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift video, which I hadn't seen before, but oh
Speaker 1: my god, to just like start that in the middle
Speaker 1: right like it's you know, it's like he's no, he
Speaker 1: knows what he's doing. He's kind of acknowledging it in
Speaker 1: the moment, and the person's calling him on it. It's
Speaker 1: just like, dude, what are you doing? How do you
Speaker 1: think this is going to turn out well for you?
Speaker 1: It's the same thing as like if a cop like
Speaker 1: was caught doing something and they started taking off their
Speaker 1: uniform in front of you while you have them on
Speaker 1: camera and putting on like a costume and be like,
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about. You're like you
Speaker 1: are trying to You're trying to obscure the facts right
Speaker 1: now by doing this. No, I'm just playing uh sublime, man,
Speaker 1: I mean where were you at ninety two? I mean,
Speaker 1: I was beating the funk out of Rodney King. And
Speaker 1: that's the whole other stories, that's what the cops would
Speaker 1: be saying. Think about the fact that so that Taylor
Speaker 1: Swift video was from over a year ago. I think
Speaker 1: it hasn't been taken down, only became popular because of
Speaker 1: how stupid it was. And they're still using this tactic.
Speaker 1: Like think about the level of you know, investigate, investigative
Speaker 1: rigor that they're putting into this, which is like their
Speaker 1: way being like ha ha, no one can catch us.
Speaker 1: And then like think about how fucking bad they must
Speaker 1: be at their jobs. They just go around and bully
Speaker 1: poor people. That's all they fucking do. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: this is like the same ship, Like how long have
Speaker 1: we known that broken windows policing doesn't work? Apparently, you know,
Speaker 1: we never knew that because exactly right, it doesn't matter
Speaker 1: what the facts say, it's just about these habits that
Speaker 1: they have, and because on the other side of it,
Speaker 1: they don't actually experience any form of regulating or fallout
Speaker 1: from their actions, Like they're just in like the worst
Speaker 1: form of being like yes manned into like the worst
Speaker 1: dumb fucking way of behaving, because all they have is
Speaker 1: positive reinforcement for every dumb fucking idea they have, and
Speaker 1: you're left with, Yeah, incompetent people who rarely have to
Speaker 1: answer for their incompetence, only furthering their incompetence. And the
Speaker 1: way it's written about in The New York Times is
Speaker 1: that broken windows policing is a tactic used by the
Speaker 1: NYPD in an attempt to bring down crime of all sorts.
Speaker 1: So they take them at their word of what the
Speaker 1: intent is of this thing, and not no like follow
Speaker 1: up or second sentence fragment where they're like, but it
Speaker 1: obviously doesn't work and is effect functionally just a way
Speaker 1: for them to control poor and communities of color. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the New York Times is the fucking cops. They're really
Speaker 1: fucking bad at their jobs, Like worse than I could
Speaker 1: have possibly imagined. I mean, how do you fucking write
Speaker 1: any art? How are you going to do anything like
Speaker 1: balanced in terms of journalism and only take like like
Speaker 1: not being discerning in the kind of cherry picked evidence
Speaker 1: or studies are pointed to to like prove your point
Speaker 1: and in no way try to attempt to explain an
Speaker 1: issue like as best as your you know abilities can
Speaker 1: as a journal because you have the abilities, Like I know,
Speaker 1: I've read good articles in the New York countants like
Speaker 1: you guys can You guys are good writers, and that
Speaker 1: you have you employ a lot of really smart journalists.
Speaker 1: But I don't know what the fun is going on
Speaker 1: over there. Right, Let's take a quick break and we'll
Speaker 1: come back and talk about why none of it matters
Speaker 1: because aliens are gonna come destroy us anyways, And we're back,
Speaker 1: and there were several headlines I guess this was last
Speaker 1: week a couple of weeks back, about how scientists are
Speaker 1: sending messages containing Earth's location to aliens, despite past warnings
Speaker 1: not to do so from Stephen Hawking. He was like,
Speaker 1: I'm out of here, but you motherfucker's need to know,
Speaker 1: Like I'm leaving you with this instruction, don't do this.
Speaker 1: I don't know if those were as exact words. This
Speaker 1: is another thing, by the way, that is consert hack
Speaker 1: joke here. This this is another thing that is jm our.
Speaker 1: Our writer put was like, is this a viral marketing
Speaker 1: campaign for an upcoming out freeboot? Yo? I think like
Speaker 1: this is again a plot point from the three body Problem, which,
Speaker 1: like I keep talking about it, it's this trilogy of
Speaker 1: Chinese sci fi novels, and like the main conceit, it
Speaker 1: has a Netflix series coming from Benny Off and Weiss,
Speaker 1: the guys who did a decent job with Game of
Speaker 1: Thrones and then they really fucked it up at the end.
Speaker 1: But it's a it's a really fun trilogy. But the
Speaker 1: central conceit is that the universe is a dark forest
Speaker 1: and full of like these ancient or full of these
Speaker 1: aliens of realizations that are hiding from one another, and
Speaker 1: the second you reveal where you are, you're gonna get got.
Speaker 1: I'm like, so you just have to shut the funk
Speaker 1: up and hide out, and one alien civilization like in
Speaker 1: that trilogy figures out where we are, and like that's
Speaker 1: basically the plot. But so I I understand the concern,
Speaker 1: right his Stephen Hawkings, and and like Stephen Hawkings, who
Speaker 1: like this isn't his area of expertise necessarily, but you know,
Speaker 1: he was like based on humans, like any any other
Speaker 1: advanced civilization. If we take our you know, way of
Speaker 1: being as a as a given or an indication of
Speaker 1: how other civilizations would be, where we'd be fucked, like
Speaker 1: they would come and destroy us and just like you know,
Speaker 1: drink up all our resources, like straight up. And that's true,
Speaker 1: but the panic around it too, like the headlines are
Speaker 1: so ridiculous, Like the newsweek one, scientists make message to
Speaker 1: send Earth's location to aliens, ignoring Stephen Hawkings warning. I
Speaker 1: remember seeing the headline. I was like, oh ship, and
Speaker 1: I just kept scrolling because I was like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: whatever funk it? And then another one from Daily Mail,
Speaker 1: scientists will send a radio message into space revealing Earth's
Speaker 1: exact location to all caps aliens, despite Stephen Hawkings warning
Speaker 1: they may want to destroy us. The Daily Mail is
Speaker 1: like the u k Is and most Stage six, Yeah exactly. Um.
Speaker 1: I just have to say I have recently done some
Speaker 1: ayahuasca ceremonies and I feel like the Earth, not the Earth,
Speaker 1: the universe has more of a benevolent force than we
Speaker 1: give a credit for. That sans sans Aahuasca agree based
Speaker 1: on the fact that they seem to be here already,
Speaker 1: like we have so much fucking you know, eyewitness now
Speaker 1: video evidence that there is something here that can do
Speaker 1: things that defy the laws of physics. As far as
Speaker 1: we know, and you know, any anything that is that
Speaker 1: much more advanced than us, like could have killed us
Speaker 1: all by now like easily. They have not. And I
Speaker 1: also think this is why the military doesn't want us
Speaker 1: to know, because the military wants us to think that
Speaker 1: everyone is like the military, including like the advanced to
Speaker 1: alien civilizations, that it's that Stephen Hawking's right, and that
Speaker 1: everything thinks on this plane of like go, conquer, destroy, repeat.
Speaker 1: You think the government knows about the aliens? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think that, well, I think they know something. I think,
Speaker 1: you know, we're we're finding out that they have all
Speaker 1: those evidence and it's a mystery they've been trying to solve.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they know more than they're letting on.
Speaker 1: They seem their pub extance which doesn't really kind of
Speaker 1: cohere with their overall like the images that they try
Speaker 1: to project, but their public stance has been like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we've fucking have no idea, you guys, it's so weird,
Speaker 1: Like look at the ship that we have on tape.
Speaker 1: Any ideas? Yeah, yeah, like literally, do what do you
Speaker 1: guys think? Which seems very very strange. I could see
Speaker 1: that being part of a plan to like get funding
Speaker 1: for like more and more advanced weapons, but it doesn't
Speaker 1: like it really seems like they have tried to keep
Speaker 1: it quiet for a long time. They've like known there's
Speaker 1: there was there have been like alien encounters with people,
Speaker 1: and they will threaten to like ruin the life of
Speaker 1: a scientist who witnessed this if they say anything. And
Speaker 1: I think the reason that they're so secretive about it
Speaker 1: is because they don't want people being like, wait, so,
Speaker 1: like the whole military thing and like the killer be
Speaker 1: killed thing seems seems like that might be like the
Speaker 1: thing of the past and like we're the more we advance,
Speaker 1: the less we need assholes like you and so like,
Speaker 1: because a lot of the alien sightings tend to happen
Speaker 1: around our military, which again, if they if they wanted
Speaker 1: to funk up our military, they could have done it
Speaker 1: by now what, But they are fucking with the nukes, right,
Speaker 1: did I read that correctly? They have like there's been
Speaker 1: a lot of activity around nuclear silos, like nuclear weapons plants,
Speaker 1: and I think my my thesis is like they just
Speaker 1: want to make sure that we're not going to do
Speaker 1: anything stupid basically because that otherwise like again, like I
Speaker 1: don't if they're able to do like faster than light
Speaker 1: speed travel to Earth. Like they they're not gonna be like,
Speaker 1: whoa look at these souls. Wow, I think they're they're
Speaker 1: being like, Okay, these motherfuckers don't know what they're doing,
Speaker 1: but they figured that ship out. Okay, man, here, you
Speaker 1: got the remote in case they try to launch. You
Speaker 1: gotta keep these guys alive. It's like the best reality
Speaker 1: TV show ever. That's what I've been saying. We're there,
Speaker 1: sloppy neighbors. They're like, Bro, they're fucking up over there.
Speaker 1: You should go check this ship out right now. It's
Speaker 1: a mess. Yeah, they're rooting for us like that I
Speaker 1: root for like a young up and coming NBA player.
Speaker 1: I'm like, they got a shot. They got a shot,
Speaker 1: like they they make a lot of mistakes, but they
Speaker 1: got a shot, like they just But the end game
Speaker 1: is for them to pit us against another plant, like
Speaker 1: another planet eventually. All right, bro, who you got. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm taking my Earthlings against your Martials and we've been
Speaker 1: waiting too long. Let's put them in a box. Let's
Speaker 1: see where this ship goes. And we're like, what happened? Yo?
Speaker 1: I thought it was about peace they're like, no, you
Speaker 1: are playthings. Apparently, this debate of like we can't let
Speaker 1: them know like where has been on on for a
Speaker 1: long time. There. This is a new version of the
Speaker 1: r A Sebo message, which was sent into space in
Speaker 1: nine four from the Air Cebo Observatory in Puerto Rico, which,
Speaker 1: if you're not familiar with that, that is the giant
Speaker 1: dish seen in Golden NYE. So you've probably played a
Speaker 1: video game on that if you're old, like or if
Speaker 1: you remember the movie Golden Yeah, I mean there you go,
Speaker 1: but not in shambles. Yeah, now it's falling apart, which
Speaker 1: also looks really cool. But people, you know, they sent
Speaker 1: a message out into space, people were like, what the
Speaker 1: fuck you're gonna kill us. At the time, they were
Speaker 1: worried that any creatures out there might be malevolent or hungry,
Speaker 1: Like they're like, they're just like bears out in the universe, hungry,
Speaker 1: Like if they can get here, you think their thing
Speaker 1: is like, oh man, I just need I'm gonna eat there,
Speaker 1: eat them the man I just pulled up in a
Speaker 1: hydrogen ion fucking propulsion machine, goldfish. I love how we
Speaker 1: sent them like the most it's like looks like hieroglyphics
Speaker 1: or whatever. The thing that we sent them. They're like,
Speaker 1: oh no, these guys need help. The message was a
Speaker 1: representation of the fundamental chemicals of life, the formula for
Speaker 1: d n A. They were like, here's what we've got
Speaker 1: so far in the seventies. You know, maybe this is useful.
Speaker 1: And then yeah, like you're saying a diagram that looks
Speaker 1: like hieroglyphics rendered through a Atari Yeah, it's wild. I
Speaker 1: like it. Yeah, I mean, sure, come on, aliens, we
Speaker 1: could use something new, you know. Oh yeah, it's getting
Speaker 1: dry down here. It's just such an embarrassing representation for us,
Speaker 1: the message that we said. It's like so primitive, right,
Speaker 1: They're like, look at these eight bit other fucker's this
Speaker 1: is the message they're sending. But I guess, you know,
Speaker 1: we can send something with better clarity. Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know how they landed on this. I this
Speaker 1: looks like a scene from an Atari game that like it.
Speaker 1: It isn't even at the point yet where like you
Speaker 1: can even tell what they're trying to depict. Like I
Speaker 1: think there's a lake and maybe a diving board, and
Speaker 1: then that's the double helix of DNA. What yeah, dude,
Speaker 1: I mean. And then above that M with the skateboard
Speaker 1: on top of it at the bottom that the things
Speaker 1: above between the human and the the skateboard M or
Speaker 1: bow and arrow. The bow that looks like it's on
Speaker 1: top of the M at the bottom, that's the solar system. Also,
Speaker 1: the human just looks the human looks like ship ship
Speaker 1: like with the pixels don't even connect. Yeah, I would
Speaker 1: have no idea. The people got tiny heads block you
Speaker 1: to or so's two little dots that make up one
Speaker 1: arm and then a bumpy left arm and then block feet.
Speaker 1: It looks like I'm ready like people. People can go
Speaker 1: look up the r C boat message. I just want
Speaker 1: to let the aliens know, if you're listening, we look
Speaker 1: much better than that dusty ass eight bit rendition of
Speaker 1: our planet. And okay, so come on down, help us
Speaker 1: fight fascism and clean up the environment, and you know,
Speaker 1: I'll praise to the aliens. You know, just hit hit
Speaker 1: me up. I'm not gonna say ship. I'm not like,
Speaker 1: I'm just curious. I'm good for it. I can keep
Speaker 1: a secret. Nobody's gonna listen to me our podcast the
Speaker 1: second rate. I just want to know what is your timeline? Like,
Speaker 1: what what are you waiting for? Like? Are you you're
Speaker 1: just like good better? Jack's like, I love this ship.
Speaker 1: Just tell me the plot man, Just tell me just
Speaker 1: what because I can consult. Maybe because I'm very like
Speaker 1: dumb in a way that is like helpful. I think,
Speaker 1: like that's that's kind of useful. You let me get
Speaker 1: in that writer's room. Man's let's just sucking you know,
Speaker 1: let's just outline some different plot lines. I mean, what's
Speaker 1: like the plan? Right, You're like it's clear what the
Speaker 1: A story find is? Okay, what's the B story? That's
Speaker 1: the beaten plot ship? Well, anyways, hit me up, Courtney. Problem. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I know that he made me sound so so dumb.
Speaker 1: I loved it. I see all the three body plan
Speaker 1: what no were good? Yeah? Courtney as always such a
Speaker 1: pleasure having you on dailies. Where can people find you?
Speaker 1: Follow you all that good stuff? I am at Courtney
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Speaker 1: all kinds of ship over there. And is there a
Speaker 1: tweet or some of the work of social media you've
Speaker 1: been enjoying. Oh yeah, so this is David Gross. He's
Speaker 1: at David Gross TV. And I just laughed really hard
Speaker 1: when I saw this tweet. Quote look at that person
Speaker 1: who has been awful to me personally on that giant
Speaker 1: billboard unquote and it's it signed like everyone in l A.
Speaker 1: Eventually that I thought was so real. Yeah, that is
Speaker 1: That is a very l A moment. Billboards still a
Speaker 1: primary form of communication out here. Harassment and and harassment.
Speaker 1: Miles Where can people find you? What is a tweet
Speaker 1: you've been enjoying? You can find me on Twitter and
Speaker 1: Instagram at Miles of Gray. Also the other podcast, Matt
Speaker 1: boost these Jack Got Mad boost thes NBA podcast had
Speaker 1: Roy Wood Jr. On recently. We might have dropped that
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Speaker 1: but should should be dropping an episode in the TDZ
Speaker 1: feed soon. But also, all you need to do is
Speaker 1: search Miles and Jack got mad boost Ease, And I
Speaker 1: think there's only like three podcasts with that name you
Speaker 1: should be able to find just you can even search
Speaker 1: mad boost Ease. That's how lit the SEO is right now, okay,
Speaker 1: and it will appear for you. I mean, they trust me.
Speaker 1: The streak of amazing guests will continue. Some tweets I like,
Speaker 1: first one is from m Nate Shamalan sold me, tweeted
Speaker 1: Elon Musk said he would fix Twitter, okay, but he
Speaker 1: also said he made an unsmashable window and then smashed
Speaker 1: it immediately. Let me we all remember that cyber truck demo, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, where's that cyber where Tuck? Remember that?
Speaker 1: I'm like that you do that too. One of three
Speaker 1: people who think those look cool, like I want to
Speaker 1: see those one three people bro, plenty of people were
Speaker 1: working with the cyber truck. Um, yeah, oh yeah, people
Speaker 1: can't afford it. What's the cyber truck? It's that. Then
Speaker 1: he released like or showed people like two years ago,
Speaker 1: and it looks like it was like rendered in probably
Speaker 1: like sixty four bit graphics. I would say it looks
Speaker 1: like the car that the guy from the Arecibo illustration
Speaker 1: would be to a drive offen exactly and just a
Speaker 1: blocky truck like the hieroglyphics that we sent, Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 1: If there was another if if they also had to
Speaker 1: represent a car, that's what the cyper. Also another tweet
Speaker 1: I like is from at krotschen Er tweeted, do you
Speaker 1: think they were giggling inside the Trojan damn mind mouth?
Speaker 1: We look. We love a good we love a good
Speaker 1: history reference. I just love I love that if like,
Speaker 1: how do you know just like the gate, Yeah, you're like, wow,
Speaker 1: look at this, it's a gift for us. We should
Speaker 1: bring this inside the walls. I definitely would have been giggling.
Speaker 1: I would have gotten everybody killed. Just like covering your mouth,
Speaker 1: and I like to there's a guy in the Trojan
Speaker 1: horse named Jack Jack. Yeah, that was a good one. Uh,
Speaker 1: Newpot trailer comes out Monday was a tweet I enjoyed
Speaker 1: from Jamie Loft as help, which is that's an event
Speaker 1: that's like a you know, truly it's a new Nolan
Speaker 1: film drop and that's a new Uh. Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 1: What's she getting weird about this time? Do you guys
Speaker 1: know you're gonna have to wait till Monday to find out?
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's really it's really today today, So yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I meant. It's Monday. I knew that. Let's
Speaker 1: see another tweet I've been enjoying. Aidan tweeted at the
Speaker 1: water fountain just past airport security frantically refilling my aquarium
Speaker 1: and I mean that's just sad. Uh. And then Luke
Speaker 1: Mons tweeted a picture of one of those uh baby
Speaker 1: bell cheese is like the wax things and said, shout
Speaker 1: out to these little guys. No better snack than cheese
Speaker 1: inside a candle. There's so much wax on those, I know, Okay.
Speaker 1: And then finally I did want to get your opinions
Speaker 1: on this. I don't think I said. You can find
Speaker 1: me on Twitter at Jack under Squirrel, Brian, somebody tweeted.
Speaker 1: Spooney Bard tweeted. When I was a kid, I thought
Speaker 1: the long vampire fangs were hollow and they had holes
Speaker 1: in the end that they drank blood through like straws.
Speaker 1: M hmm. I thought that too. Did anybody else think that? Now?
Speaker 1: Why did? Why do they have the little puncture ones?
Speaker 1: So it just gets it down, that's crazy. I don't
Speaker 1: know why you wouldn't want to say their fangs are
Speaker 1: the Capri sun straw, which is that you don't have,
Speaker 1: you don't need the straw inside the teeth, which doesn't
Speaker 1: make any sense. But that's what I thought was happening.
Speaker 1: I know I was the same way. You know what
Speaker 1: it could have been too. It probably coincides when that
Speaker 1: I found out that spier snakes fangs are hollow, so
Speaker 1: the venom can exactly. So I think I associated fangs
Speaker 1: with being straws or some kind of tubular vessel. Yeah, anyway,
Speaker 1: But I'm not saying I'm smart. That's just we're too
Speaker 1: dumb fucking guys. No, it's definitely not the same conclusion.
Speaker 1: The same time, I'm with you. Maybe that's our entire
Speaker 1: worldviews were built on a shaky foundation of a very
Speaker 1: dumb assumption and now we like all the same tweets.
Speaker 1: There's one another, so who knows. You can find us
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Speaker 1: we talked about in today's episode, as well as a
Speaker 1: song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song
Speaker 1: do you think people might enjoy? Okay, so this is
Speaker 1: a track I just saw the the Deny Villeneuve Dune
Speaker 1: recently wild and and so I was just listening to
Speaker 1: this old let's go out on some Dave Matthews to
Speaker 1: be specific, David Matthews, who is a jazz musician who
Speaker 1: made this like jazz funk album in the seventies called Dune,
Speaker 1: And it was this this like funky jazz dude being like,
Speaker 1: what if I made an album based on the book Dune?
Speaker 1: And some of the tracks are fucking really good. And
Speaker 1: in fact, this one we're going to go out on,
Speaker 1: which is called Part two Sandworms shout out shy alud
Speaker 1: is like like constantly being sampled in the hip hop
Speaker 1: from like Large Professor to like Pete Rock. There's a
Speaker 1: meThe Man and Redman track, so if you hear this,
Speaker 1: you might recognize this as a sample that's used in
Speaker 1: hip hop, but also this album. I was like looking
Speaker 1: at the personnel on it. It's pretty fucking stacked. Like Dave,
Speaker 1: Like like Dave Samborne, who was a pretty famous jazz
Speaker 1: or sacks player in the nine eighties and nineties. He's
Speaker 1: on it. Steve Dad, one of my favorite drummers, is
Speaker 1: playing on this too. It's like they got good jazz
Speaker 1: people on this, but playing a Dune themed album. So
Speaker 1: check this one out. Part two Sandworms by David Matthews.
Speaker 1: I thought I was picturing you watching Dune and then
Speaker 1: being like man, and when you think about it, we're
Speaker 1: all just like ants marching like the Hopefully the song
Speaker 1: is better than the movie that Mike, Okay, hey it
Speaker 1: might be. Look if the bars that load, you're definitely
Speaker 1: gonna focus Sandworms. I wasn't it's easy about the movie,
Speaker 1: but I think I'm gonna enjoy it more once it's
Speaker 1: actually a complete movie. I didn't I don't know, I
Speaker 1: don't know shit about Doom and not fu with it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think I was like, this is a lot of sand.
Speaker 1: That's pretty much all that's got going for it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I kind of a thing for sand, so I might
Speaker 1: be biased. Also, jazz might have wanted to consider fake
Speaker 1: names like those jazz musicians that you were. I'm sure
Speaker 1: our legendary and amazing artists like David Sandbord, Steve, Steve Ahead.
Speaker 1: That's a that's a programmer's name. Man, that's not Steve
Speaker 1: gad Is. I'm nasty, I know what you mean. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's back when you know, people got by on
Speaker 1: just regular names. I heard of Axl Rose. I did
Speaker 1: not hear of Steve gad you know, because I was
Speaker 1: seven and I was like, that name is fucking cool.
Speaker 1: In the late eighties, he did to change his name
Speaker 1: to kind of keep up with the times, and he
Speaker 1: became Big Gaddy King. All right, Well, The Daily Zay
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