Speaker 1: Welcome back again. We are talking about, well, what else
Speaker 1: are we talking about? The NBA playoff? The n B
Speaker 1: A oh sorry, I was supposed to say playoffs, not
Speaker 1: the NBA. We'll be talking about obviously, that and very
Speaker 1: very fun conversation with our guest. Writer, producer, ESPN personality
Speaker 1: Justin Tensley is in the building. I'm Miles Gray, I'm
Speaker 1: Jack O'Brien, and this is Miles and Jack got I
Speaker 1: love it, I love it, I love it. All right,
Speaker 1: we've got to welcome our guests. One of the foremost
Speaker 1: and sought after voices. Look, whether it beyond sports, hip
Speaker 1: hop or things directly pertaining to the culture, We've got journalist,
Speaker 1: producer and ESPN personality Justin Tensley, Justin Welcome, Welcome, Welcome.
Speaker 1: What's going on, fellas man, It is a true pleasure
Speaker 1: to be here. I don't know where this conversation is
Speaker 1: gonna lead to, but I'm I'm We're talking to NBA,
Speaker 1: we're talking the playoffs. I mean, it's only great time.
Speaker 1: I mean it. We'll have to talk about your work too,
Speaker 1: obviously you did, uh the fantastic thirty for thirty King
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Speaker 1: who know you know the importance of Nipsey Hustle. Uh,
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Speaker 1: also we'll have to talk about you're writing a little book.
Speaker 1: You got a little book coming out called Little Book
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Speaker 1: named the Notorious b I G. Biggie Smalls. I'm not sure. No,
Speaker 1: I've not heard of him. Is that the same as
Speaker 1: that young man Christopher Wallace? I've heard about that? Yes,
Speaker 1: that is right. Okay, Now I didn't know he was
Speaker 1: called that. Who knew? Right? Who knew? I mean, look,
Speaker 1: let's let's just get right into it. I mean we'll
Speaker 1: we'll get to all that stuff obviously in due time.
Speaker 1: But I think the thing that is at the top
Speaker 1: of our minds the NBA playoffs are in full swing. Now.
Speaker 1: How was everybody feeling after that first weekend? How you feeling?
Speaker 1: Oh man, I'm excited speaking of that. A thing that
Speaker 1: we've talked about on our other shows that guys just
Speaker 1: like randomly came across my desk was how young Big
Speaker 1: he was, like just throughout everything he did, he was
Speaker 1: like so shockingly young, like It's like, what how he
Speaker 1: was twenty one when he released Ready to Die, Like yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and yeah he was. He was gone by the time
Speaker 1: he So that ties into what I think has been
Speaker 1: the most exciting thing about the first weekend, which is
Speaker 1: the young players, particularly Anthony Edwards. Uh yo. Like we
Speaker 1: we've talked about Anthony Edwards here and there, but like
Speaker 1: I mean, we devoted the first episode of this show
Speaker 1: to Jah and Anthony Edwards came through and his playoff
Speaker 1: debut put up put up a cool thirty six third
Speaker 1: most ever for a player twenty year under in a
Speaker 1: playoff game, third most ever for a player of any
Speaker 1: age in a playoff debut. And I don't know, it's
Speaker 1: watching this happen like it kind of feels like you're
Speaker 1: watching someone's game come together in real time, like in
Speaker 1: front of our eyes. Like I don't know if it
Speaker 1: just feels like that because I haven't watched every game
Speaker 1: this season, but like I remember when he came into
Speaker 1: the league, everyone was like, well, he's shooting, Like he's
Speaker 1: not a good shooter. Like that's that's the first thing
Speaker 1: you have to understand about this man. Let's check back,
Speaker 1: Let's check back in like a season and a half
Speaker 1: um obviously, you know, like athleticism and strength are are
Speaker 1: like unparalleled, and then confidence is just unfakeable and incredible.
Speaker 1: And his playing game and his playoff debut. I don't
Speaker 1: know this is like an old head thing, but it
Speaker 1: reminded me of the Lebron Sston series where he was
Speaker 1: all of a sudden unstoppable, like he'd been good, but
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it was like, wait, is the
Speaker 1: is somebody like is that a college player playing against
Speaker 1: a j V high school team? Like, all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: it just looked like he could do whatever he wanted
Speaker 1: if he chose to. Every time down the court, He's like,
Speaker 1: I will take whatever shot I want to with ease.
Speaker 1: It is showed a one point lead two minutes into
Speaker 1: the third sending away Towns headwards step back mid range
Speaker 1: is money. The confidence just stripping off of Anthony Edwards
Speaker 1: with seven. Here here's the thing, and for one, John
Speaker 1: Morant is deserving of all the praise and adulation in
Speaker 1: the world. Like and I went down to Memphis earlier
Speaker 1: this year to kind of really report on not necessarily
Speaker 1: the ex exces and ohs of like Jozz dominance, but
Speaker 1: like when you look at the history of the Grizzlies
Speaker 1: like franchise, they've never had a superstar quality player like
Speaker 1: a job Moran. And when I mean superstar quality, I
Speaker 1: mean even things like Off the Court. Of course, you
Speaker 1: know Zach Randolph will always be the heart and soul
Speaker 1: of that franchise for for for a lot and deserving reasons.
Speaker 1: But Jaw is different, and you get what I'm saying
Speaker 1: when I say he's so, he's well deserving of having
Speaker 1: his own episode. Like I love the fact that he
Speaker 1: posted like that clip from the Last Dance Jordan with
Speaker 1: the baseball bad It's just one game. I love it.
Speaker 1: I didn't. I love that, And I think only bring
Speaker 1: up the fact that we devoted the first episode to Jah,
Speaker 1: not not to be like and then like Anthony's better
Speaker 1: more to be like. We we struggle to not make
Speaker 1: every episode about Jah. Uh. That is my struggle. He's
Speaker 1: so cool and so like the things he does, like
Speaker 1: even in Game one, which they dropped, it was awesome.
Speaker 1: It was so funny. Lot. Look, I'm to ask him
Speaker 1: for too much. I want both to seven matchups this year,
Speaker 1: to go seven games like whoever wins, like I mean
Speaker 1: it is what it is. I'll be fine, but I
Speaker 1: need both of those to go seven. We exactly, we
Speaker 1: all win, now, Jack, to what you were saying about
Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards, I mean, there's there's no I'll say this
Speaker 1: if you find a reason to dislike Anthony Edwards. The
Speaker 1: issue with you Anthony, right, that guy, that guy is
Speaker 1: everything we want from Like obviously you mentioned the fact
Speaker 1: that he came into the league and people were saying, like, oh,
Speaker 1: he needs to improve the shooting, and then he suddenly
Speaker 1: becomes a terrific three point shooting Like he's he's setting
Speaker 1: records for for people, you know, you know players his
Speaker 1: age in terms of like making threes and his offensive game,
Speaker 1: Like I think it's at some point in his rookie
Speaker 1: year he got known for like dunking on people because
Speaker 1: he would put you he will put you on the
Speaker 1: poster quick, fast and easy. But like his game is
Speaker 1: so polished offensively that you know, in a way that
Speaker 1: in a way that like Vince Carter, he would dunk
Speaker 1: on people all the time, but his offensive game was
Speaker 1: extremely well polished. And you know, but the thing about
Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards that even sets him apart from Vince Carter
Speaker 1: it's like this guy is extreme. You know, he gives
Speaker 1: you a lot in terms of like media interactions, so like,
Speaker 1: you know, I will say that like he's like a
Speaker 1: six seven version of shock in a lot of ways.
Speaker 1: Like you know, he's gonna dominate on the court, but
Speaker 1: like he's gonna give you a sound bite like he
Speaker 1: had to. He had the quote of the weekend, Like
Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, it was the kids that talked the
Speaker 1: most trash at the Memphis game. And I love it,
Speaker 1: you know, like I love this guy's game. I love
Speaker 1: everything about it and the fact that, like he's twenty,
Speaker 1: we could potentially have thirteen and fifteen more years of
Speaker 1: this right, you know, like it's it's ridiculous, man. So
Speaker 1: like shout out to Anthony Edwards. I love that guy.
Speaker 1: I think he's going to be a star, a superstar
Speaker 1: for a long time. And if I had to pick
Speaker 1: one player, that that one player, one storyline, or whatever
Speaker 1: terminology you want to use. From the first weekend, it's
Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards. Man, Like that guy's must see TV. He
Speaker 1: specialized early in his uh, like you were talking about
Speaker 1: when he became numb for dunking on people. First of all,
Speaker 1: he had a dunk where he jumped over somebody's head
Speaker 1: and dunked on them, and unfortunately they called an offensive
Speaker 1: foul because the defender like reached up and touched his
Speaker 1: leg and then like fell back. But he also specialized
Speaker 1: on dunkey people with his arm at like a ninety
Speaker 1: degree and like just straight out in front of him
Speaker 1: because he was that high over the rim and like
Speaker 1: that that made me realize, Oh, that's the thing you
Speaker 1: have to unlearn when you're like that athletic is like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's very dangerous what you're doing right there. You're too
Speaker 1: high above the basket. Like you need to just go
Speaker 1: as high as you need to dunk, and I need to,
Speaker 1: But what about us high as I can? Well, then
Speaker 1: you will jump out of the building. Then when you're twenty,
Speaker 1: you can still love live on the edge and reckless.
Speaker 1: Like I don't even him doing that. When he's I
Speaker 1: can't believe him. He'll still be young. He'll be a
Speaker 1: ten eleven year vet at that point. But uh no,
Speaker 1: that that that guy is phenomenal man, and he is
Speaker 1: exactly what that franchise needs. And I look, I don't
Speaker 1: know what's gonna happen in this series. But they've proven
Speaker 1: and he's proven that, like no stage is like too
Speaker 1: big for him. I'm not saying he's gonna come up,
Speaker 1: you know, on the right side every time, because that
Speaker 1: just never happens to anybody. But like even his coach,
Speaker 1: you know, Finish, he's he's even said that, like he's
Speaker 1: he's proven, he's he's improved dramatically on the defensive end
Speaker 1: from year one to year two. So like, this is
Speaker 1: a guy for as as entertaining as he may be
Speaker 1: in like a postgame press con for a situation like this,
Speaker 1: dude is a dog. He's a dog's after it and
Speaker 1: any basketball fan and I know y'all are like you
Speaker 1: love dogs. Yeah, Well his mentality is it's so elite,
Speaker 1: you know. And that's what's so And like what you're saying, Jack,
Speaker 1: I think you're saying you can't fake that confidence, right,
Speaker 1: And you can tell in the game that he plays
Speaker 1: and the words that he speaks. And I think to
Speaker 1: your point to what makes this series so great is
Speaker 1: like you have on one side and saying I'm ready
Speaker 1: for this, I'm energized by the challenge. In fact, I
Speaker 1: this is all I ever really wanted, Like you can
Speaker 1: tell that's that's where he's coming from. And then the
Speaker 1: other end you have Jaw also saying, yeah, that was
Speaker 1: a good game, but I honestly felt that we lost
Speaker 1: that for ourselves. And so you're putting up these two
Speaker 1: mentalities together and like it's only going to deliver some
Speaker 1: of the best competition that you know that we've seen it.
Speaker 1: And we're recording this right before Game two tips off,
Speaker 1: so you guys know more about what happened in this
Speaker 1: series than us. But there's one thing that is not
Speaker 1: going to change, and that's how excited I am about
Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards. One more thing I do want to say
Speaker 1: about Anthony Edwards, and I think you all said it earlier,
Speaker 1: just like leading up to like this discussion. He wants
Speaker 1: this moment, Like if you if you go back to
Speaker 1: the one year he was at Georgia u g A,
Speaker 1: they weren't good, so he didn't really get a chance
Speaker 1: to play in like big time, prime time games and
Speaker 1: his first year in Minnesota, you know, they didn't make
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Where some people might be like, all right,
Speaker 1: well I'm a little nervous going into this game, and
Speaker 1: it's naturally feel nerves. You could tell he's not only
Speaker 1: he's not only embracing the moment, he's bear hugging. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know it's it's beautiful to see that, like the
Speaker 1: times when they fall behind or gets close, like that's
Speaker 1: when you're gonna see some ridiculous highlight from him. And
Speaker 1: also like right at tip when everybody's damped up, he's
Speaker 1: just the most stamped up. He's just like the one
Speaker 1: who's like, all, I don't gonna score the first seven
Speaker 1: points here, hold this real quick to be young and
Speaker 1: spry again what I do? So we we're going to
Speaker 1: get some of his postgame greatness a little later on.
Speaker 1: Just from the past couple of years. I do want
Speaker 1: to workshop with you guys in just mainlining highlights of him.
Speaker 1: Over the course of the past couple of seasons, I
Speaker 1: have realized that, um, the I think it's the Minnesota
Speaker 1: broadcasting team, but like nobody has quite figured out what
Speaker 1: to say after he does something incredible. They have tried
Speaker 1: answer deadly, answer deadly, uh, and once even tried ants
Speaker 1: bury they're dead, which is like a cool fact. Like
Speaker 1: you ever see aunts like going out like Harry and
Speaker 1: a fallen soldier, and you know, sometimes there will be
Speaker 1: a whole line of them. I don't know, like, can
Speaker 1: we workshop something for that? It doesn't need to be
Speaker 1: right now, but like you know something right because is
Speaker 1: an ant too small too fully encapsulate? Know that your no.
Speaker 1: I feel I feel like either because I feel like
Speaker 1: ants are just hard, too small to encapsulate, and a
Speaker 1: name too insufficient to fully embody all of the colleges
Speaker 1: that he contains. Just dunked it. Like that's too wordy.
Speaker 1: Ants can lift three hundred times their weight, but like
Speaker 1: that's again to word So if it's on the Discovery Channel,
Speaker 1: that would be amazing. Um, you know who we need
Speaker 1: to consult on this is the Charlotte Hornets broadcasting that
Speaker 1: because they go in every time. So I'm trying to like,
Speaker 1: what could you what could you do for Anthony? So
Speaker 1: this is what I'm not a broadcast something like there
Speaker 1: are more than ten thousand known species of van around
Speaker 1: the world, but the deadly ist just right here in Minnesota.
Speaker 1: Like that's also wordy. I feel like Jack, we always
Speaker 1: talk about how you get mixed up with his name
Speaker 1: for the actor Anthony Edwards from e Er, So maybe
Speaker 1: we my brand will not hold it. I I like
Speaker 1: when we were talking about him on Zeke Guys the
Speaker 1: other day and I was like like I couldn't. I
Speaker 1: couldn't do it because Anthony Edwards. And also I think
Speaker 1: there's like something with like John Edwards like that, like
Speaker 1: just his name needs to be cooler or something. I
Speaker 1: don't know, like we need to brand him so like
Speaker 1: somehow Dr Mark Greene sent this person to the e
Speaker 1: er tom Dr Mark green the character's name, I don't know.
Speaker 1: And maybe that's too washed of a reference to people,
Speaker 1: like I get that one. My mother would appreciate that reference,
Speaker 1: you know, because she was the biggest R fan. But
Speaker 1: Natsy got me thinking about, oh, my goodness, is that
Speaker 1: George Clooney on the bench because Anthony Edwards has pulled
Speaker 1: up as his co star. You're like the early seasons
Speaker 1: of the are not many people know that George Clooney
Speaker 1: actually started on her. Like, now we're getting too wordy.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Do we have to move on from
Speaker 1: aunt Man as the like ant Man is a solid
Speaker 1: heist movie, like its deals it and then dunks it
Speaker 1: like yeah, especially to ask Anthony Edwards, Yeah, I know
Speaker 1: exactly what were you talking about? He just needs he
Speaker 1: might even just like top of the Martin to you
Speaker 1: because he loves the Irish accent. So maybe that's what
Speaker 1: it is. The anttagonist is that that's not good, right,
Speaker 1: Antie easy Buggets, task force what we'll come up with something,
Speaker 1: We'll come he's deserving. Yeah, um, what any anything else
Speaker 1: you guys want to call up from the first weekend
Speaker 1: of the playoffs. I mean, obviously Boston Brooklyn was all
Speaker 1: time classic. Yeah, I mean from I mean a small moment.
Speaker 1: I just you know, I like, I like a good block. Um.
Speaker 1: And I would be lying if I said it didn't
Speaker 1: to see Rudy Gobert against Josh Green, that that that
Speaker 1: didn't warm my heart just a little bit. That would
Speaker 1: be a lie, because I just I just love I
Speaker 1: love the clip. It's everything about basketball. You have the
Speaker 1: confidence of Josh Green being like, okay, watch me spin
Speaker 1: off of you. Here we go, and then Rudy Gobert
Speaker 1: being like, you don't think I'm work on my footwork
Speaker 1: constantly in the gym too for this exact situation exactly.
Speaker 1: So let's we'll just we'll play this one quick, because
Speaker 1: I think it's a it's it's I don't know I
Speaker 1: think it warms everybody. Sorry, it was unfortunately to be
Speaker 1: a playmaker always shot makes no shots like oh yeah,
Speaker 1: that's everyone. I mean, look, I know Rudy Gobert man
Speaker 1: like he he hears it a lot from a posting
Speaker 1: fans and sometimes the posting players. Man. But that was
Speaker 1: an incredible play right there, Like that was an incredible play,
Speaker 1: Like there's no other way around that. That was an
Speaker 1: impressive the recovery and then just also like there was
Speaker 1: something about Green's confidence where he really felt He's like
Speaker 1: I'm out of the wood. Yeah I got And I
Speaker 1: think that's what I also love about a great play
Speaker 1: like that where you're just like, I will denar this moment.
Speaker 1: It reminds me of like those moments when Lebron is
Speaker 1: doing a chase down and you know before the person
Speaker 1: with the ball knows that they're about to get blocked
Speaker 1: because he's like you can see him counting his steps
Speaker 1: and like doing the thing that it's like, okay, in
Speaker 1: one point five steps, that's mine and Gilbert, and with
Speaker 1: Gilbert they're like that's you know, that was a trap.
Speaker 1: That was a trap that he said. He was like,
Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna go over here, you won't see
Speaker 1: me and then I'm going to uh snatch the Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like that meme where the guys like call an
Speaker 1: ambulance and then the person is like trying to rob
Speaker 1: them and then they pull out their own life. It's like,
Speaker 1: but not for me. That is one of the all
Speaker 1: time great Internet right there. It's wild because like what,
Speaker 1: there's seven billion people on the plane, yea, what is that?
Speaker 1: Like point o two percent of people could ever make
Speaker 1: that play because one, you gotta be tall enough until
Speaker 1: you gotta be athletical. Now there's only a handful of
Speaker 1: people on the planet right now they can make that play.
Speaker 1: So it was it was impressive. Man. You know, it
Speaker 1: was good to see Crusoe back defending like that his
Speaker 1: D on Middleton, even though Milwaukee one game won his
Speaker 1: d like that. That's just somebody who loves to defend.
Speaker 1: This podcast for casual NBA fans is all about defense.
Speaker 1: Part of the game. It is. It is like when
Speaker 1: you're truly watching, like Alex Cruso or Matistabel for the
Speaker 1: Sixers play defense like that. Those are two people who
Speaker 1: I highly recommend when you're watching when they're in the game,
Speaker 1: just follow them around on defense. Just watch stay watching
Speaker 1: them on defense. They love it and they like it's
Speaker 1: kind of ingenious, like the ways they find to disrupt
Speaker 1: whatever the opposing teams doing. I tell you something else
Speaker 1: that I really enjoyed from uh this first weekend playoffs.
Speaker 1: Chris Paul, Willie Green doing a great job down in
Speaker 1: New Orleans. And I know he and Chris Paul are
Speaker 1: friends that used to be former teammates and they're really close.
Speaker 1: And I thought Chris Paul's comments after the game where
Speaker 1: they were basically sending people under the screen on Chris Paul,
Speaker 1: basically daring him to shoot, you know, and it's just like,
Speaker 1: do you really want to dare Chris Paul to shoot? Like?
Speaker 1: Chris Paul has been one of the best shooters in
Speaker 1: the NBA for pre Obama era, you know, he was
Speaker 1: knocking down buckets then. So it's I don't expect that
Speaker 1: series to be too long, but I do expect New
Speaker 1: Orleans to keep it competitive. But Chris Paul at thirty
Speaker 1: six man incredible to watch in the shocking after the
Speaker 1: season seventeen games, Now we defends the freeze the hats,
Speaker 1: the hats sure three four three, Yeah, he plays with
Speaker 1: like the true efficiency of someone who is you know,
Speaker 1: like just seeing the matrix. Now he's like I can
Speaker 1: just you know, I just love anybody like whether it's
Speaker 1: your kisch or other players are just super efficient with
Speaker 1: their body movement. Just like, let me orient myself one
Speaker 1: way and that's enough to give me some space, thank you.
Speaker 1: I don't need to be I'm gonna be gassing myself
Speaker 1: out here. Super producer Jabari asked the question that I
Speaker 1: was actually had this same conversation very recently, like is
Speaker 1: this the best version of CP three? Like is the
Speaker 1: best he's ever been, even though you know his athleticism
Speaker 1: was supposed to have fallen off like three years ago.
Speaker 1: He's on that plant based diet that seems to extend
Speaker 1: people's careers by a number of years. But like he's
Speaker 1: only getting better at like the thing that he's best at,
Speaker 1: which is like knowing exactly how to defeat you, like
Speaker 1: with just like where he puts his body and where
Speaker 1: he puts the ball. I think it's a fair question,
Speaker 1: at man, And you know what I'll say it, I
Speaker 1: think so yeah, I think so man, because obviously one
Speaker 1: you just mentioned how he takes care of his body
Speaker 1: and that he's spoken at length about how that's changed
Speaker 1: his career. And I don't I don't think you can
Speaker 1: short change that. Like, obviously, taking care of your body
Speaker 1: is I mean one even for non athletes, that's huge.
Speaker 1: Definitely for athletes it's huge. So uh and then you
Speaker 1: couple that with the fact that like he's playing with
Speaker 1: the best wing player that he's ever played within his
Speaker 1: career and Devin Booker, and uh you I mean, look,
Speaker 1: DeAndre Ayton, We've seen how his career in his game
Speaker 1: has flourished alongside alongside Chris paul I injuries notwithstanding cause
Speaker 1: CP three has for the most part battled that throughout
Speaker 1: his career. But I think this is the best version
Speaker 1: of him because he's always going to be a psychopath competitor.
Speaker 1: We're always going to see that, So I mean, and
Speaker 1: and again, his game is not really predicated on being
Speaker 1: the most athletic point guard in the league. You know,
Speaker 1: my as you mentioned it in terms of like efficiency,
Speaker 1: bro like that that dude sees the game. Yeah, unlike
Speaker 1: nine point nine of people who have ever played the
Speaker 1: game of basketball. And literally the only thing he's missing
Speaker 1: from his career is basically being the first to sixteen
Speaker 1: wins in the playoff. Right there, it is all right,
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and we'll come back and
Speaker 1: talk about the dopest things we've ever seen on a
Speaker 1: basketball court. And we're back and so justin this is
Speaker 1: the point in the show where we like to ask
Speaker 1: our guests a little bit about their relationship to basketball
Speaker 1: and specifically, like what is the dopest thing you've ever
Speaker 1: seen done on a basketball court, NBA or otherwise that
Speaker 1: that's a really good question I can I can kick
Speaker 1: us off with just like the thing that is occurring,
Speaker 1: So Jordan's pool coming through right now and being like
Speaker 1: a third splash triplet, like is it might not be
Speaker 1: like any individual play is the dopest thing I've ever seen,
Speaker 1: or like one of the dopest things I've ever seen,
Speaker 1: But his development and like that franchise is development, like
Speaker 1: raises some questions for me that are like really interesting,
Speaker 1: like because I I feel like he's just learning like
Speaker 1: that they have or you know, they're superstars have figured
Speaker 1: out like how to create themselves, create new players in
Speaker 1: their mold. Like he looks like he is just like
Speaker 1: right on the trajectory of Steph and Clay like that
Speaker 1: might be a bit much, but I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: It's just it's one of those undefinable like qualities that
Speaker 1: doesn't get picked up when people, like a lot of
Speaker 1: a lot of the conversation around basketball in the off season,
Speaker 1: like that gets a little tiresome to me. Is like
Speaker 1: when people act like they know what each player is
Speaker 1: worth and like, well, you can't win with that team.
Speaker 1: You have to like move this guy over here, you
Speaker 1: need like three blue chips, and it's like, well, you
Speaker 1: don't know, or like Steph could just like teach Jordan
Speaker 1: Pool like every one of his workouts and suddenly Jordan's
Speaker 1: Pool is like thirty points a game and the playoffs
Speaker 1: and just like it's I don't know, it's just really
Speaker 1: cool to see that team developed into the Splash Triplets,
Speaker 1: not at the thirty two Rivers speed the South Park.
Speaker 1: You know. It was I was watching uh game to uh,
Speaker 1: you know, Golden State in Denver and they were kind
Speaker 1: of having a similar conversation about this, So I'm glad
Speaker 1: that you brought it up, Jack, And it's just like
Speaker 1: when people talk about player development in basketball, all too
Speaker 1: often it's about what is the coaching staff gonna do
Speaker 1: for this player? When in reality, yes, the coaching staff
Speaker 1: is important, but like, who are these young players veterans?
Speaker 1: Who's teaching them the game? In a sense? And with
Speaker 1: Steph and Clay and Draymond, you say whatever you want
Speaker 1: to about the Warriors, They've always been open and willing
Speaker 1: to be like, Yo, let's let's get this person in
Speaker 1: here and lets you know, this is how we do things.
Speaker 1: How does that mesh with how you've done things? And
Speaker 1: what can we do to bring the best out of
Speaker 1: you as a player. I mean, look, Andrew Wiggins just
Speaker 1: made the All Star team, you know, and so like
Speaker 1: we could say whatever we want to. If you're Jordan Pool,
Speaker 1: you gotta think you're in the best possible situation. Like
Speaker 1: I'm playing alongside arguably the two best shooters of all
Speaker 1: time and a guy who just doesn't mind being a
Speaker 1: hound on the defensive side of the ball but can
Speaker 1: initiate the offense. And Draymond Green, you know like that
Speaker 1: that like you're always going to be open because they
Speaker 1: can't double you, because if they double you, then Stephford
Speaker 1: Clay is gonna be left wide overright, And we've already know,
Speaker 1: you can cancel Christmas when that happens. So I agree
Speaker 1: man Jordan's pool. A lot of people either don't know forget.
Speaker 1: I believe it since March one. He just led the
Speaker 1: NBA in three points, you know, like that, and and
Speaker 1: this is a three point heavy league that we're talking about,
Speaker 1: We're saying earlier off Mike Jack is like watching game
Speaker 1: too even and knowing that what the Warriors scored seventy
Speaker 1: points in nineteen minutes and then like and within that
Speaker 1: situation is like, oh, here's six Man of the Year
Speaker 1: Steph Curry coming off the bench, like to add insult
Speaker 1: to injury. And it does feel like I play a
Speaker 1: lot of video sports video games for anybody who plays,
Speaker 1: like Career Mode, it's like that part in Career Mode
Speaker 1: where like the star players have to age out and
Speaker 1: they retire, but then you get the region players that
Speaker 1: come up that like replaced the retired ones. It's almost
Speaker 1: as if they just brought a like a region onto
Speaker 1: the Golden State Warriors without any of the the players retiring.
Speaker 1: You're like, wait, but that's so this is just gen z.
Speaker 1: Steph Curry, now, who who said video games can't be realized? Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm like, I'm like that Leonardo DiCaprio, mean
Speaker 1: pointing at him, like that's a region from a video game.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's it's it's I think that really is
Speaker 1: something to watch, because, yeah, that environment says a lot
Speaker 1: about the skills that you learn and the energy that
Speaker 1: you're around, especially to to have players of that stature
Speaker 1: who are willing to give you the space to say, like,
Speaker 1: you know what, like you should you should feel yourself
Speaker 1: too and play with the kind of confidence that we do.
Speaker 1: And everybody is winning. We don't have to talk about
Speaker 1: this year's playoffs. We can go back to Jordan's Shack Penny,
Speaker 1: who who are your guys? Man? I mean, I think
Speaker 1: you watch basketball in the nineties. You you were automatically
Speaker 1: indoctrinated into the school of Jordan's, you know, and like
Speaker 1: it'd be impossible too, And I have a ton of
Speaker 1: memories about a ton of different players. But you know,
Speaker 1: I was actually talking to Jabari about this even before
Speaker 1: like you started recording. I guess the most sentimental memory
Speaker 1: that I have in terms of basketball is watching Game
Speaker 1: six of the finals with my uncle and so my uncle,
Speaker 1: just for like full transparency, and I don't mind talking
Speaker 1: about this at all, honestly, it's a great memory for me.
Speaker 1: But obviously Game six at the ninety eight finals was
Speaker 1: what June. And you know, my uncle he passed from
Speaker 1: poland cancer in January. That's the last basketball game he
Speaker 1: and I ever got to watch together. And he was
Speaker 1: the guy that like put me onto like all sports basketball, football, men's, women's,
Speaker 1: like it doesn't matter, like if it involved competition. He
Speaker 1: just loved to watch it. And like he put me
Speaker 1: onto so much game so much. But you know, Jordan
Speaker 1: was always like one of our favorite people to watch
Speaker 1: because you know, we we were people with a heartbeat
Speaker 1: then watching Michael Jordan played basketball, and I think we
Speaker 1: both knew it time they're like, all right, well, this
Speaker 1: is probably it, you know, like that we weren't saying
Speaker 1: the last Dance at that point where we were like,
Speaker 1: this is probably it. And you know, my uncle at
Speaker 1: that point in time, he was he was sick. He
Speaker 1: wasn't obviously as sick as he would become, but for
Speaker 1: that moment in time, watching that game, for however long
Speaker 1: it was, I think that we both forgot that he
Speaker 1: was sick, you know what I mean. And we were.
Speaker 1: We were just watching Jordan's and you know, like Jordans
Speaker 1: literally carrying that team on his back in Game six
Speaker 1: in Utah. So like whenever I see highlights from that game, like,
Speaker 1: it doesn't bring back like sad memories, for it brings
Speaker 1: back great memory. And you know, to see Michael Jordan,
Speaker 1: however old he was at that point, I think he
Speaker 1: was like thirty five at that point. You know, go
Speaker 1: fifteen and thirty five and drop forty five and like
Speaker 1: game six and you're just literally watching the dude like no,
Speaker 1: y'all are going across this finish line with me. And
Speaker 1: I'll never forget like seeing that look of like just
Speaker 1: sheer shot, enjoy and amazement and you know, w tf
Speaker 1: is going on? Right? Like how is this guy doing
Speaker 1: this again? And I like my uncle was charing, so
Speaker 1: if he's cheering, I'm cheering. And it was it was
Speaker 1: just a great memory. So like for me, that's probably
Speaker 1: the most sentimental memory I have with with the game.
Speaker 1: That's I mean, I think speaks to why you know
Speaker 1: sport and basketball specifically. It draws you in, right because
Speaker 1: that moment that shot um Brian Russell. For me, I
Speaker 1: remember when I saw that this was like in this
Speaker 1: era where I felt that athletes were superhuman, right when
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, he has the ball, he scores because
Speaker 1: he is a god and that's how this works and
Speaker 1: we are immortals. But I can almost have this expectation
Speaker 1: as I watched that this like supernatural performance will happen
Speaker 1: before my eyes. And it's those games like that that
Speaker 1: you know, make good on that promise of like what
Speaker 1: the potential is of sport, and you can really say,
Speaker 1: you can sit there and say, why's this gonna be
Speaker 1: the last shot? It would be poetic if he hits
Speaker 1: this and then that's that, and he does and you
Speaker 1: just sit with that and you cannot believe it. And
Speaker 1: it's like all your own hopes and dreams are put
Speaker 1: into that moment because you live vicariously through the athletes
Speaker 1: that we can't help that. And yeah, there is that
Speaker 1: back quality where like, yeah, for you and your uncle,
Speaker 1: everything melts away except just to just to sit and
Speaker 1: bear witness to like the the absolute out of body
Speaker 1: experience it is to watch these like top tier athletes
Speaker 1: just you know, make it look like it's magic all
Speaker 1: the time. Dude, I'll never forget sitting in his studio
Speaker 1: apartment and Washington, d C. Like right off Constitution that
Speaker 1: I never forget he had it. I used to think
Speaker 1: the studio apartment was like the top floor of the Ritz,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like it was it was
Speaker 1: the coolest place in where if he lived there, I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, man, this is cool, like and I
Speaker 1: thought it was huge. Keep it man, that that apartment
Speaker 1: couldn't have been no more than like five square feet.
Speaker 1: But I'll never forget that look on his face when
Speaker 1: Jordan hit the shot. All he did was just like
Speaker 1: smirk and just like you know, laugh like this dude
Speaker 1: really did it again, Like he really did that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So it's you know, if I ever meet Michael Jordan's
Speaker 1: after I wake up from passing out, um, I'll tell
Speaker 1: I'll be sure to tell him that story. There are
Speaker 1: two moments where it felt like for a prolonged series,
Speaker 1: one player was like, actually, I'm going to take over
Speaker 1: as the screenwriter of reality. Um. And it was Jordan's
Speaker 1: in that series and Lebron in the Cleveland Championship series
Speaker 1: where it was just like this feels like all right there,
Speaker 1: like now this story would be too good, Like I'm
Speaker 1: taking over and absolutely no one can stop me. I
Speaker 1: know Karl Malone thinks he knows what's gonna happen here.
Speaker 1: I'm still gonna steal the ball from him and then
Speaker 1: come down to hit that shot you mentioned. Obviously Lebron
Speaker 1: in that finals. Obviously Game seven is remember because of
Speaker 1: the block and the shot, and but like game five was, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was incredible what they both went forty one down
Speaker 1: three one on the road. Yeah, like that that seen finals,
Speaker 1: It was crazy. But like for Lebron, and I think
Speaker 1: one of y'all mentioned it earlier, was Lebron versus the
Speaker 1: Pistons and oh seven, Yeah, I call it the first
Speaker 1: forty eight. Yeah, I never which is crazy because we're
Speaker 1: coming up on the fifteen year anniversary of that game.
Speaker 1: Like the fact that that game was fifteen years ago,
Speaker 1: and I'll never forget speaking to Dan Yelle Marshall, who
Speaker 1: was of course on the Calves at that point, and
Speaker 1: that the Shauncey Billips, who obviously was on the Pistons,
Speaker 1: and I wanted to talk to them about what was
Speaker 1: it like playing in that game? And I also spoke
Speaker 1: to a fan who was at the game. Chauncey would
Speaker 1: say like, dude, we made it an intention to like
Speaker 1: one get the ball out of Lebron's hands, but to
Speaker 1: like beat him up, like we wanted him to know,
Speaker 1: like there's not gonna be any easy buckets here. It
Speaker 1: was like it was something about that game five and
Speaker 1: like we did pretty much control the game up until
Speaker 1: that point, and Shaun she was like, it's like the
Speaker 1: light just came right, but for us, the light went
Speaker 1: off and it was just like, yeah, there was nothing
Speaker 1: we could do. It was like yo, Sun, she was like,
Speaker 1: I got I got Lebron. I got Lebron. Then Rashid
Speaker 1: would be like, no, I got Lebron. Then RiPP would
Speaker 1: be like, no, I got Lebron. Then take Shawn would
Speaker 1: be like, no, I got Lebron. The next thing, you know,
Speaker 1: there's got straight and it's like what do we do
Speaker 1: against this guy? And Danielle Marshall on the other and
Speaker 1: it's saying like just play defense. You just play defense.
Speaker 1: Clear everybody else kill her play defense? Man. So like that,
Speaker 1: which is I think that's when Lebron really became quote
Speaker 1: unquote the king and a lot of people because he
Speaker 1: was still a phenom at that point. But so yeah,
Speaker 1: that's another great basketball memory of man too. As a
Speaker 1: second over time, that's Jays Yes what oh seven? This
Speaker 1: is uncle, this is George Nesk forty eight points from
Speaker 1: Lebron James forty eight points. We'll say it again, the
Speaker 1: last twenty five for the Cavaliers, twenty nine of the
Speaker 1: last thirty one of the great performances of all time
Speaker 1: in playoff history, offered by Lebron James. I'm also class
Speaker 1: of oh three when Lebron left high school, and I
Speaker 1: remember at the time always being like, all right, well,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm in college, but Lebron, Like there
Speaker 1: was this subconscious thing of always comparing myself to Lebron
Speaker 1: James because I'm like, well, this person is also graduating
Speaker 1: at the same time. Let's see where our lives end up.
Speaker 1: And I remember May thirty first, two thousand seven, when
Speaker 1: his game is happening. I'm graduating college, and then I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, I know about history, and then like and
Speaker 1: this guy is absolute phenomen and I'm like, okay, and
Speaker 1: then I think that it's oddly enough, that was the
Speaker 1: beginning of for whatever reason, I began to let go
Speaker 1: of this very toxic comparison of like wherever I was
Speaker 1: that compared to Lebron. Yeah, but you got a degree
Speaker 1: Lebron about that. When I beat you, I'll ask you.
Speaker 1: You know who Cardinal Risha Leui is as it relates
Speaker 1: to Louis for the Sun King. You might know him
Speaker 1: as all right, let's take a quick break. We'll be
Speaker 1: right back, and we're back. NBA players are very funny,
Speaker 1: you know what. One of my favorite things for the
Speaker 1: playoffs was Terris Maxie. You know, I'm a Sixers fan,
Speaker 1: so I was maybe paying a little ext route tension. Uh,
Speaker 1: but he seems to be having so much fun out there.
Speaker 1: I feel like he is part of this bumper cry
Speaker 1: of point guards who grew up watching Steph and are
Speaker 1: just like yo, like he can hit from anywhere now
Speaker 1: all of a sudden. And but it's also just like
Speaker 1: pure love of the game and pure joy. And there's
Speaker 1: like a thing like we don't think of people just
Speaker 1: like joking around and having fun when they're trash talking.
Speaker 1: But like Fred VanVleet, uh like pushed him and thought
Speaker 1: that he flopped and they were talking about it, and
Speaker 1: uh here we just have that conversation. It's like right
Speaker 1: after the foul was called, Yeah, he felt like maybe
Speaker 1: it was maybe he was play acting a bit, so
Speaker 1: it pushes him gets the call did you try to
Speaker 1: fall down? And I swear to God, I swear to God,
Speaker 1: I'm weak. It's like that you gotta go in the
Speaker 1: weight room. I'm weak, man, that that dude Yismaxie, Like
Speaker 1: it's so fun watching him play, like just for the fact,
Speaker 1: like Jack, like you said, like you can tell he
Speaker 1: just loves playing basketball. And obviously if you know his story,
Speaker 1: it's a wild story. But like it's hard to root
Speaker 1: against that guy. Like it, we're talking about Anthony Edwards earlier,
Speaker 1: Like he has that same type of quality where it's
Speaker 1: like if you dislike him, something is wrong with you
Speaker 1: because this dude he plays hard. So like it, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love him too because he's a personality. But he's like, look,
Speaker 1: I'm weak. I gotta get songly my second year in
Speaker 1: the league. Man, what you want me to do? Um?
Speaker 1: And then just because we did spend some time with
Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards this game in the beginning of the episode,
Speaker 1: he's actually made it into the daily zeitgeist, where you know,
Speaker 1: our listeners aren't huge basketball fans, but we had to
Speaker 1: talk about uh, when he was being questioned by an
Speaker 1: Irish dude. Oh yeah, let's play that one. And I
Speaker 1: think again, these are those moments that add to the
Speaker 1: loveability or just kind of like wow this there's something
Speaker 1: so sincere and genuine about him, just from this very
Speaker 1: very simple interaction with the journalist. If you get a
Speaker 1: win tonight, that are re confidence going into those next
Speaker 1: four games against teams in the similar spots. Besides you
Speaker 1: in the table, where are you from, Jim Ireland? I
Speaker 1: like your accents, tough. I want to learn how to
Speaker 1: talk like that. But actual question again, I was too
Speaker 1: much listening to your accent. Yeah, come on, man, like
Speaker 1: you can. You can see it in his face to
Speaker 1: the second he's speaking, he's like is accessing his brain
Speaker 1: being like what am I hearing? Like it's like you
Speaker 1: were hearing like a song for the first time. Straight.
Speaker 1: He's straight out of Atlanta. You know that that comes
Speaker 1: with a certain accident as well. Right, so I venture
Speaker 1: to say he hadn't heard too many Irish accents and
Speaker 1: growing up in Atlanta, And but you could tell like
Speaker 1: he wasn't trying to be a jerky or anything about that,
Speaker 1: Like he was just genuinely intrigued. And again, man, it's
Speaker 1: just y'all. Y'all said this word a couple of times already,
Speaker 1: the likability of that guy, like you just want to root,
Speaker 1: like I want to see this guy happy because when
Speaker 1: he's happy, he makes me happy, you know so, And
Speaker 1: also just the the honesty to be like, all right,
Speaker 1: ask your question again, because I was distracted by your
Speaker 1: accent is something that I don't And that's the sort
Speaker 1: of honesty that only comes from like just point nine
Speaker 1: percent likability, where it's like you can just say whatever
Speaker 1: you want. People are like, oh, man, I love you,
Speaker 1: but also being like I like your accent and I
Speaker 1: want to learn to talk like that, like the highest compliment,
Speaker 1: but the highest compliment. And I also like treating an
Speaker 1: Irish accent like a foreign language, like I'm going to
Speaker 1: get the Rosetta stone on that accident and started talking
Speaker 1: like that. If he just dropped an Irish accent on
Speaker 1: us next season, like that would be incredible. Like he
Speaker 1: comes back next season, like what was the off season?
Speaker 1: Like he's like, I was just in the gym man
Speaker 1: watching Angela's ashes on because I'm trying to get that
Speaker 1: Irish section locked in. It would be incredible to see
Speaker 1: him and that reporter have a conversation in an Irish action. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Just I hope wherever that guy is, Jim, I hope
Speaker 1: he comes back and ask him a question. We're gonna
Speaker 1: find it follow up. That's my that's my new favorite
Speaker 1: buddy cop movie. Yeah right. I love that Interpol has
Speaker 1: a new case. They have to team up this Irish
Speaker 1: detective with Anthony Edwards. I'm like, let's go. I'm there
Speaker 1: opening night. Yeah. Also, Jim's accent is cool, Like not
Speaker 1: all Irish accents sound like that. That's like a great
Speaker 1: Irish accent, and like that combination of words. He sounded
Speaker 1: really cool saying it and just having the you know,
Speaker 1: poetic soul to stop and be like, hey, you sound
Speaker 1: a really cool thing that. Yeah, those words sound cool
Speaker 1: in your voice is wonderful. I'm really into the Irish brogue,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm kind of switch up my whole swag.
Speaker 1: But also speaking to like his honesty. Right, we were
Speaker 1: talking about his postgame comments too, and you can just
Speaker 1: tell from the way he speaks he's not trying to
Speaker 1: trick himself into believing what he's saying. You can tell
Speaker 1: like there's just this sincerity that comes across where you
Speaker 1: can say, oh, this person is this confident and truly
Speaker 1: believes in himself and also again just giving us another
Speaker 1: moment of being confident while also lovable and speaking like
Speaker 1: my grandpa. Know, a lot was made about their pace,
Speaker 1: their physicality. What do you think you were able to
Speaker 1: show here about your style of play and ability to
Speaker 1: control the game that we're the ones? Jack? Yeah that's it, Jack,
Speaker 1: old school player for real saying Jack, all right, love it?
Speaker 1: I mean wow, yeah, they just you can't. I don't
Speaker 1: know how you how you get upset about that? You know? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's beautiful. The problems with you not him again
Speaker 1: that let that be the rule from this right right here.
Speaker 1: The problems with you not open your arms and accept
Speaker 1: the blessing that is, we are watching somebody where if
Speaker 1: this is we're not even close to seeing what the
Speaker 1: ceiling is for this person. So if this is the
Speaker 1: first floor, like where in the lobby? Yeah yeah, this
Speaker 1: is the lobby? Big fact? All right? Justin truly a
Speaker 1: pleasure having you on the on the show Man. Where uh,
Speaker 1: first of all, where can people find you? And also
Speaker 1: like I'm I'm very excited. I am. If I sound distracted,
Speaker 1: it's because I'm furiously pre ordering your book. It was
Speaker 1: all a dream, Diggie and the world that made him
Speaker 1: out made tenth. But yeah, tell us about the book
Speaker 1: and tell us where we can find you on social media. Well,
Speaker 1: I'll get the social media out the way first. It's
Speaker 1: actually really easy. It's my name, Justin tenseley On. I'm
Speaker 1: most active on Twitter and Instagram. I'm on Facebook, uh
Speaker 1: for the professionals out there, I do have a LinkedIn profile.
Speaker 1: I have not yet mastered how to use TikTok. I
Speaker 1: gotta I gotta get my little cousin to teach me
Speaker 1: how to Just that's what I do. I'm you know,
Speaker 1: yeah that that that's all I do. I got the app,
Speaker 1: but I don't post any But in terms of the book,
Speaker 1: you know, as you said, it comes out May tenth.
Speaker 1: Beyond excited for it, man, I'm doing a lot of
Speaker 1: traveling uh the next couple of weeks, just in promotion
Speaker 1: for it. Uh and just in relation to what we've
Speaker 1: been talking about here, which is just all things in NBA. UH.
Speaker 1: When you when you pick up the book, when you
Speaker 1: read it, you will see that there is like an
Speaker 1: NBA influence on the book. I didn't necessarily get a
Speaker 1: chance to interview Alan Iverson for this, but he's over
Speaker 1: the course of his life in his career, he's spoken
Speaker 1: about Biggie Smalls and about their relationship because they were
Speaker 1: actually very cool and uh, Biggie. In the book, there's
Speaker 1: a scene. I won't give away the entire scene because
Speaker 1: obviously I want you to order the book, but there's
Speaker 1: a scene where Biggie gets up he goes to a
Speaker 1: Clippers sixers game and late February ninety seven, because Biggie
Speaker 1: also knew the late Malik Silly who was playing for
Speaker 1: the Clippers at that point in time, and he was
Speaker 1: obviously close with Ai And there's a really great scene
Speaker 1: that I think is painted in that it just shows
Speaker 1: like the humanity of who, like Biggie Smalls was, Christopher
Speaker 1: Wallace was. And you know, I spoke to Shock, who
Speaker 1: was supposed to be at the party at the Peterson
Speaker 1: Automotive Museum where you know that was the final moments
Speaker 1: of Biggie's life, but actually overslept because he and Shock
Speaker 1: were very cool. They recorded the song together and on
Speaker 1: Biggie's debut album, Ready to Die. He name drops Shot,
Speaker 1: who was I believe maybe in his second year in
Speaker 1: the league at that point with the Orlando Magic, so
Speaker 1: they had a tight relationship for a while. And Grant Hill,
Speaker 1: he's actually in the book because he was he was
Speaker 1: he was actually at the party that night at the
Speaker 1: Peterson Automotive Museum, so he he saw Biggie for a
Speaker 1: couple of moments at that party. So in terms of
Speaker 1: NBA connections, uh, those are definitely in there. But I
Speaker 1: do hope this book for a lot of people who
Speaker 1: may know obviously know who Biggie Smalls is, I do
Speaker 1: hope this paints him in a more humanistic light, just
Speaker 1: shows that, like his life was more than just you know,
Speaker 1: big hit records, beef with Tupac, and then had a
Speaker 1: very infamous death. Yes, all of that is part of
Speaker 1: the story, but it's not the entire story. It's just
Speaker 1: it's honestly, chap was of a very long story of
Speaker 1: a guy who it was only twenty four years old
Speaker 1: when you passed. I mean, he was, It's unbelievable. So Biggie,
Speaker 1: it was all a dream. Uh, it was all a dream.
Speaker 1: Bigge in the world that made him out on May tenth.
Speaker 1: Please pre order. Pre orders are actually very important for
Speaker 1: for for books. Uh so, yeah, I hope you read it.
Speaker 1: I hope you enjoy it, and you hit me up
Speaker 1: on Twitter or Instagram or TikTok. I may see it
Speaker 1: on there, I may not, but the definitely Twitter and Instagram.
Speaker 1: Let me know what you think. And also too, I'll
Speaker 1: use this this shameless plug if you go wherever you
Speaker 1: get your podcasts, you can listen to the King of Crenshaw.
Speaker 1: That's another project that I did with the Deep NBA
Speaker 1: Connection that talks about Nipsey House's brotherhood with uh several
Speaker 1: players within the NBA and how that influenced them not
Speaker 1: not just on the court, but more so off the court,
Speaker 1: and why that friendship will forever remain important to them.
Speaker 1: So amazing. And you're working on something with Dwayne Wade too.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, So Dwyane Wade came up with a photographic
Speaker 1: memoir It's called Dwayne and I got a chance to
Speaker 1: work with him personally on that, which is one of
Speaker 1: the great highlights of my career. Um, Dwyane Way, who
Speaker 1: just happens to be uh Tyrese Maxie's favorite player, growing
Speaker 1: up and you can kind of see in the dis
Speaker 1: the intensity of their games. Yes, so I got a
Speaker 1: chance to basically work with him and got you know,
Speaker 1: tell his life story and that that was that was incredible.
Speaker 1: So like it's it's a it's a great, great coffee
Speaker 1: table material, U d wad shout out to d Waight,
Speaker 1: an incredible guy. Love working with him, and uh, I
Speaker 1: consider a friend now. It's amazing. All right, got some
Speaker 1: good friends, man, trying to Yeah, miles, where can people
Speaker 1: find you? Oh find me at Miles of Gray, wherever
Speaker 1: there's at Symbols, You'll find me there. You can find
Speaker 1: me on Twitter at Jack underscorel Brian, you can find
Speaker 1: us on the dailies like guys y finding this some
Speaker 1: other way and yeah, that's gonna do it. Um, that's
Speaker 1: been another episode of the