Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to twenty eight,
Speaker 1: episode two of Turn Day Yeah, a production by Heart Radio.
Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we take a deep dive
Speaker 1: into America's share consciousness Somewhere once a week, I forget
Speaker 1: to open my closet doors and it gets real. Echo
Speaker 1: we in here, So you're here in the echo. E
Speaker 1: open right now? Apologies for that. It's Tuesday, March fift.
Speaker 1: Are we doing this anymore? Is it? Yeah? It's a
Speaker 1: weird day today. Every everything you think is wrong day?
Speaker 1: What I don't know. That sounds like a day thought
Speaker 1: up by a dumb person who thinks they're a smart person.
Speaker 1: I mean it maybe. Also, it feels like it's meant
Speaker 1: to counter the other two worthwhile holidays, which is World
Speaker 1: Social Work Day and National Equal Pay Day. Right, but
Speaker 1: then you have everything you think it's wrong. Okay, so
Speaker 1: they're just saying, protest everything you think. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's it's says. It's the way this
Speaker 1: holiday works is a day where decision making should be
Speaker 1: avoided as your thoughts are, according to the founder of
Speaker 1: this holiday wrong. It's also a data created for some
Speaker 1: people to realize that they are not always right. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure that that point is going to be I
Speaker 1: think that's the point's gonna get lost on most people.
Speaker 1: But I have no no idea what that might be
Speaker 1: like to not always be right? How can you refrain
Speaker 1: from making a decision every day? Just sit back, just
Speaker 1: back of the cut, just like literally suspended animation. Don't
Speaker 1: drink or eat or anything because that would involve decision making.
Speaker 1: Like to live my life like a pre coug just
Speaker 1: in a milky white substances where people, if they need me,
Speaker 1: they'll come to me exactly, tell me, ask me what's happening,
Speaker 1: what crimes will be committed in the future. Well, maybe
Speaker 1: it is a good day to not make a lot
Speaker 1: of decisions. We are coming off of daylight savings time.
Speaker 1: I am, you know, but I'm not. I'm not in
Speaker 1: great shape from it. My kids. I had to like
Speaker 1: drag my kids out of bed. It was like learning
Speaker 1: what it's like to have teenagers. Are they like I
Speaker 1: feel like my friends are like young kids always like
Speaker 1: do their affected by the sun man, because the fall
Speaker 1: back sucks them up, because like it's gonna be fucking
Speaker 1: brighter earlier sun dials. You know, it's right, but yeah,
Speaker 1: they they are definitely not on any sort of any
Speaker 1: sort of official standard time out there on whatever time
Speaker 1: they damn well please, and it's killing, but it's better
Speaker 1: than when you spring fall back and they're up at
Speaker 1: like five thirty an the more right. Anyways, my name
Speaker 1: is Jack O'Brien. A K chucked my white Russian freedom
Speaker 1: and burned some caral marks Danny protestation, Danna succeeding, don't
Speaker 1: give me. I'm drunk on my freedom, Danny. And I
Speaker 1: mean that is a a K. Courtesy of Tray Gang
Speaker 1: hold On, hold On, Carl Marx is German. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that just meant to be like the American like like
Speaker 1: perceptions like Karl Mark's communism Russian throw it away. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like that's some nuance in the lyrics. Okay they and
Speaker 1: and in fact, courtesy of just t d Z, a
Speaker 1: K is freaking They asked risked that and said I know,
Speaker 1: which I was like, it didn't even occur to me.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, no, that's that's communists, that's Russia.
Speaker 1: That's Russia, man, those Russia dogs. Anyways, I'm thrilled to
Speaker 1: be joined as always by my co host Mr Miles
Speaker 1: grad around the world. People hockey and f TS. Who
Speaker 1: knows how long Dave scam do you? Everywhere I go
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Speaker 1: to Johnny Davis for that sugar Rabe, n f T collab,
Speaker 1: knockout chorus, whatever you want to call it. But yeah,
Speaker 1: Johnny Davis, I see easy. Thank you. Yeah. Well, generally
Speaker 1: we think it's good for the energy the show to
Speaker 1: make fools of ourselves up top singing parry and parody songs.
Speaker 1: It's especially embarrassing when we're joined by a true genius
Speaker 1: like we are today. Uh in our third see one
Speaker 1: of the greatest stand up comics and comedy writers to
Speaker 1: ever do it. Uh. He wrote for The Simpsons during
Speaker 1: some of the best seasons of that show. You can
Speaker 1: hear him on his very funny podcast, The Dana Gould
Speaker 1: Hour see him live all over the world. Please welcome
Speaker 1: the hilarious and talented Dana Dana, Thank you very much.
Speaker 1: This I always like to get my daylight savings off
Speaker 1: of them guesting on a podcast. That's how we right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel you about getting you're it does throw your
Speaker 1: kids off. I have. I have three teenagers, so yeah,
Speaker 1: so I'm always seconds away from murder. It rotates. But
Speaker 1: one of them is always on death tour. Yeah, oh
Speaker 1: my god, man, is it like one of those things
Speaker 1: too where he said like because there because like you know,
Speaker 1: as a teenager, I basically was like a mummy and
Speaker 1: a tomb, like sleeping for most of my days. So
Speaker 1: does that does this like exacerbate that trend? Yeah? One
Speaker 1: of them is still asleep because they didn't have school
Speaker 1: today for a school bureaucratic thing. But yeah, and I
Speaker 1: always have to like go back to, like remember how
Speaker 1: I was as a teenager, because there is I in
Speaker 1: my life. I meet people that I knew before I
Speaker 1: was thirty, and I just issue a blanket apology. I'm
Speaker 1: sorry if you knew me before I was thirty, I
Speaker 1: was wrong and you were right, and I'm sorry about everything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just it's just just it's just a nuts just
Speaker 1: sketch at thirty. Let's just restart this thing, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, I know you can kind of tell. Some
Speaker 1: of the past illustrations are on the edge of sketch.
Speaker 1: It's not perfect, but it's mostly cleared. Ghost a ghost
Speaker 1: of old behaviors. Yea, yeah, yeah. My mine are four
Speaker 1: and five, and so usually my problem is that they
Speaker 1: spring out of bed and like start jumping on on
Speaker 1: me that like, you know, way too early. But now
Speaker 1: I got, I got a preview of literally dragging their
Speaker 1: body to the car. I get both because we have
Speaker 1: three dogs and four cats and three kids, and so
Speaker 1: like I get, I get the cats wake me up. Literally,
Speaker 1: the cats literally get on my body. And how many
Speaker 1: you know, how much evolution until you can open a can?
Speaker 1: You know, you're just a failure, You're a biological failure.
Speaker 1: And uh and then yeah and then I have. So
Speaker 1: it's just a it's every day as hell bliss. So exactly.
Speaker 1: That's cool, man. How's uh what what I see that
Speaker 1: you're out on the road occasionally, what's a I've been
Speaker 1: on the road. I've been right now. I'm I've been
Speaker 1: home because I'm writing a film and I'm working on
Speaker 1: a TV series that I don't know if I can
Speaker 1: announce it yet. It's just I'm just a writer on
Speaker 1: it um. I don't know what the deal is with it,
Speaker 1: but it's being made and uh. And then I'm plugging
Speaker 1: my little show on YouTube, hanging with dr Z. So
Speaker 1: the shows I'm doing are I'm doing in town. I
Speaker 1: perform at the Improv a lot and at a thing
Speaker 1: called Supernova whichever you live like, and then probably later
Speaker 1: in the summer, when things lightning up, I go back
Speaker 1: on the road. Sometimes they go out by myself, and
Speaker 1: sometimes they go out with Bob Cat Goldthwaite and we
Speaker 1: do uh. We like to think of ourselves as comedies
Speaker 1: version of Seals and Croft, you know, just out there hilarious,
Speaker 1: hilarious as a summer breeze. How are how are the
Speaker 1: rooms like? Is it? Is it? Have you noticed a
Speaker 1: post pandemic difference? Is everything? I think people are really
Speaker 1: I think people are really happy to be out. That's
Speaker 1: what That's what I find more. And there's there's two
Speaker 1: things that I've noticed since the pandemic. One, people are
Speaker 1: very happy to be out to a lot of people
Speaker 1: that are that are that are like comedy fans. During
Speaker 1: the pandemic, they lived on Twitter. And then you go
Speaker 1: into a club and you quickly realize that Twitter is
Speaker 1: not the world, and that you actually can say something
Speaker 1: without enraging a certain segment of the population, and that
Speaker 1: people are actually, uh, there're a lot looser than you think.
Speaker 1: You know. Twitter is literally like knock knocked, what about
Speaker 1: the homeless? You brick? You know? And uh, and the
Speaker 1: world is not like that, which just I was just
Speaker 1: refreshing and I and I'm really not bemoaning heightened sensitivities.
Speaker 1: Like I accept that. I understand it. It's called human evolution,
Speaker 1: it's society progressing. I do understand that, and I welcome it.
Speaker 1: And as a writer, I I welcome the challenge and
Speaker 1: as a and as a middle aged white guy, I
Speaker 1: also know that no one cares what I think. And
Speaker 1: that's fine. Two thousand years was a great run I
Speaker 1: get across. Yeah problem, just think that we're gonna go.
Speaker 1: But but in terms of like the rogan aspect of
Speaker 1: the yeah, did you think they we're gonna go quietly?
Speaker 1: After two thousand years? You think they're gonna But it
Speaker 1: is nice that people's sphincters are a little loose, that
Speaker 1: you can actually talk about that you can laugh about things, right,
Speaker 1: And yeah, but I'm really not piss sing and moaning.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and also that Knock Knock Joe kills though
Speaker 1: too does. All right, we're gonna get to know you
Speaker 1: a little bit better in a moment. First, we're gonna
Speaker 1: tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about.
Speaker 1: There was an internal Kremlin memo that was leaked that
Speaker 1: basically encourages media outlets, Russian state media outlets, to play more,
Speaker 1: play more Carlson, give us Tucker, give us Tucker more Tucker,
Speaker 1: nothing but the Tucker, because he gets it gets So
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about that. We're gonna talk about a
Speaker 1: new Q and on conspiracy. We're gonna talk about Dolly
Speaker 1: Parton bowing out of a Rock and Roll Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame nomination. We're gonna talk about the Shamrock Shake. I
Speaker 1: think we've all been counting the days until this bad
Speaker 1: boy was available once again. Anyways, well we'll talk about
Speaker 1: that plenty moore. First day. Now, we do like task
Speaker 1: our guests, what is something from your search history? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I was okay, So my youngest daughter's twelve, she's the
Speaker 1: thirteen in a couple of weeks, so I lump her
Speaker 1: in with teenagers and we went to see the Batman
Speaker 1: with Robert Pattison, which she wanted to go see because
Speaker 1: she's a fan of Twilight and wanted to, you know,
Speaker 1: because of she likes two things. She likes the Marvel Universe, uh,
Speaker 1: Marvel Cinematic Universe and Twilight. So I thought, well, this
Speaker 1: is a combination, and and she had a fine time
Speaker 1: and the Batman people, I was too dark. It was fine.
Speaker 1: We enjoyed it. But then she was watching No Way
Speaker 1: Home or the first Tom Holland Spider Man movie which
Speaker 1: has Michael Keaton as the villain. He plays, uh, the
Speaker 1: hawk Man whatever it was, so I believe yeah, or
Speaker 1: I don't know who it was. I think I should
Speaker 1: have just done straight crossover from the Birdman movie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the character. But that was my Google search Mike Keaton
Speaker 1: as Batman because I was like, honey, he was the
Speaker 1: first Batman. Think that he's done other stuff, He's the first,
Speaker 1: and it's really like, yep, okay, you know, and I
Speaker 1: found out that he's he's playing Batman again, which I
Speaker 1: didn't know. He is Batman in the Flash Universe. It's
Speaker 1: nice to know just an aged Batman. Yeah, but it's
Speaker 1: also interesting in that how little she cared right right, yeah, yeah, okay, good,
Speaker 1: but I was very excited when you said, like how
Speaker 1: sort of districted your daughter was. When you pointed that out,
Speaker 1: I fully flashed back to this time. My dad tried
Speaker 1: to get me to watch The Andromeda Strain and I
Speaker 1: was like, by the same guy who wrote Jurassic Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, he's like, oh you like Jurassic part He's like,
Speaker 1: oh you like Spaceship or like I'm like wait what
Speaker 1: like check out the Andromeda Strain And I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: this ship as dry as Marcus Minor. And he was
Speaker 1: so fun I remember him being like, you don't you
Speaker 1: don't think this is cool, and I'm like, not at all,
Speaker 1: not at all, it isn't It's funny because Robert Wise
Speaker 1: is a brilliant director, but he did make two of
Speaker 1: the most boring science fiction movies ever committed to film,
Speaker 1: The Andromedas Train as Star Trek the Motion Picture, which
Speaker 1: are both like watching paint dry. Um. Yeah, yeah, that
Speaker 1: was My dad used to want me to go hunting,
Speaker 1: like I just don't have that in me, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think that. Yeah, but it is so My
Speaker 1: My oldest kid goes to Berkeley when she's just started
Speaker 1: this year, and we were going up there and I
Speaker 1: was like, you're gonna have the greatest time. I used
Speaker 1: to live up there. I used to live in San Francisco.
Speaker 1: I'll show you my old apartment. And she who looked
Speaker 1: at me, She went, yes, I'm really interested in your past.
Speaker 1: They don't care like, oh, man, amiba check there when
Speaker 1: I was around. Yeah. Yeah, if your kids think you're cool,
Speaker 1: you've made a mistake. Yeah. I'm trying to think, like
Speaker 1: who is the coolest person who has kids that like
Speaker 1: that would be a struggle where the kid has to
Speaker 1: be like Farrell but he's so cool. Yeah, Like there's
Speaker 1: Farrell's kids like nah, fuck you dad, Yeah, just just
Speaker 1: on principle man thirteen. So I'm curious and I see him.
Speaker 1: He's starting to come out with his dad more like
Speaker 1: at events and you're like, oh, look at this so
Speaker 1: cool motherfucker right here. And I'm curious if he is
Speaker 1: like laughing or it's like it's like forcing Farrell into
Speaker 1: weird decisions because his kid, who he thinks it's cool,
Speaker 1: It's like this ain't cool, dad, And he's like, okay,
Speaker 1: what about a like a fucking pink pith helmet, I
Speaker 1: can wear that out like yeah, I mean it doesn't
Speaker 1: like people that are and then people that are sobond
Speaker 1: reproach like I'm sure Snoop Dog has kids, But does
Speaker 1: his kid, like you know, play the banjo or something
Speaker 1: like that kind of right? Right, I mean the the
Speaker 1: big places coming up to Lebron's kid is like, you know,
Speaker 1: Lebron has sent the message he wants to play with
Speaker 1: his son in the NBA, Like does Lebron's kid wanna
Speaker 1: play with his dad? Like is that what he wants
Speaker 1: to do? Or is he gonna show like Ken Griff
Speaker 1: Junior did to his dad like early on, like stealing
Speaker 1: like flat like flyballs away from him. Right, Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's grim. It's grim. You know what your kid to do?
Speaker 1: Like I often like the name Frank Sinatra Jr. Yeah,
Speaker 1: is child abuse? Child abuse? Just just name him less
Speaker 1: than that's his name. You know, it's just so awful,
Speaker 1: it's so awful. What is something you think is overrated? Well,
Speaker 1: we were just like I think Twitter is super overrated.
Speaker 1: And I only say that because I know people that
Speaker 1: live on it, you know, and they just every day,
Speaker 1: oh my god. And there's different something you know different
Speaker 1: Twitter Twitter worlds. There's you know, film Twitter and stand
Speaker 1: up Twitter and rage Twitter and whatever and uh and
Speaker 1: and most and I'm on Twitter. You know, I'm on Twitter.
Speaker 1: I you know, but but I know that it's just
Speaker 1: it's an app in the way that you know, Twitter
Speaker 1: as is. Twitter isn't human interaction in the way that
Speaker 1: tender is human relationships. It's like it's just a tiny aspect.
Speaker 1: Most people don't know what it is. And not only
Speaker 1: do they not have it, they there they know it's
Speaker 1: a thing, right, but they don't even know what it is.
Speaker 1: So it's great to get your news or whatever, but
Speaker 1: it's it's nothing to get too wrapped up in. It's
Speaker 1: nowhere to it's nowhere to, no place to live your life.
Speaker 1: No I'm not supposingly not to the point if it's
Speaker 1: like you know, causes people stress and like they start
Speaker 1: like you know, losing their inner piece because of a
Speaker 1: fucking bird logo on their phone. Like you got just
Speaker 1: engage a little bit, because like you're just you're just
Speaker 1: putting all of your focus into your phone and you're
Speaker 1: it does begin to blur the lines. You're like, this
Speaker 1: is like, well this is my life, this is what
Speaker 1: I'm this is what's happening. But then you go outside
Speaker 1: and you like talk to like anybody the supermarket and
Speaker 1: you're like, yeah, yeah, everybody's no not everybody hates each
Speaker 1: other just on site. Well, you would never go to
Speaker 1: say Yankee Stadium, uh sold out game and just walk
Speaker 1: up and down every aisle. What do you think? What
Speaker 1: do you think? What do you do? You like this shirt?
Speaker 1: You know, it's like know you're kind of get contrary opinions.
Speaker 1: That human nature. You know. It's like, you know, you
Speaker 1: can just post I like French toast and just come
Speaker 1: back twenty minutes later. Fuck French toast, Yes, your highness, Okay,
Speaker 1: the breakfast of the American olagark, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: and then three months later your uncle's on Facebook another
Speaker 1: patriot for freedom toast, you know misspelled. I don't, I
Speaker 1: don't really Twitter is fine, but you have to really
Speaker 1: check yourself that when push comes to I don't really
Speaker 1: care what that many other people think. And that's like
Speaker 1: you're always gonna get contrary opinions to anything, just because
Speaker 1: it's just human nature. Yeah, you know what something you
Speaker 1: think is underrated, Here's what I think is underrated. Because
Speaker 1: I spend a lot of time driving around ah my
Speaker 1: daughter who's twelve, I know a lot more about a
Speaker 1: generation of music that I have no business knowing about.
Speaker 1: And there's a song by ash A s A s
Speaker 1: h E Called The Moral of the Story that's as
Speaker 1: good as any song I've heard. It's it's great and
Speaker 1: it's much The her lyrics are much better than Olivia
Speaker 1: Rodrigo writes really good lyrics for for that kind of music.
Speaker 1: We all love Ta Ta, we all love Taylor, but
Speaker 1: I personally want Taylor Swift to take acid or l
Speaker 1: s D and just kind of just break out of
Speaker 1: writing about boys and and the way the Beatles and
Speaker 1: the way the Beatles did that every song was about
Speaker 1: a girl and then they took acid and started writing
Speaker 1: about walrus is. I think that's healthy. Um, I'd like
Speaker 1: to see Taylor uh take some heavy, heavy psychedelics. I
Speaker 1: think they'd be good for. But no, this this song,
Speaker 1: it's called the Moral of the Story and it's it's
Speaker 1: the lyrics are great, and I'm like, why isn't this uh,
Speaker 1: this should It's a great song. It's it's just it's
Speaker 1: occasionally you just hear a new a performer, and uh,
Speaker 1: one of the lyrics that I really love is uh
Speaker 1: some uh you think you are in love, but you're
Speaker 1: really just in pain. It's it's it's really like they
Speaker 1: really know what they're Yeah, she really knows what she's doing.
Speaker 1: It's great. It's a great song. Alright, it's a great song.
Speaker 1: I was moving out of my music comfort zone of
Speaker 1: stuff I listened to in college. Right, and then you
Speaker 1: can only available on specific stations. You know, Ash's politics
Speaker 1: are very problematic, right, I'm sure she is. I just
Speaker 1: wanted to make sure she's a member of the Wisconsin militia.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm just leading her Bio says she grew up
Speaker 1: listening only to Christian radio, and she thanks her grandfather
Speaker 1: for introducing her to music from Bob Dylan, the Beatles,
Speaker 1: and Jefferson Airplane. Cool Grandpa, you know, yeah, was like
Speaker 1: Christian crap. I like songs that aren't about traditional girl
Speaker 1: boy emotions like I like songs that aren't about just
Speaker 1: like my I Love you or I Hate you that
Speaker 1: that are about other My favorite Beatles song to because
Speaker 1: you mentioned the Beatles, My favorite Beatles song is paperback
Speaker 1: Writer because it's about a guy that wants to be
Speaker 1: that wants to write crappy novels for a living, Like,
Speaker 1: what a great idea for a song, you know? Uh?
Speaker 1: Yeah that the same album as tex Man or Well
Speaker 1: it was a single from that period, yeah, Revolver, Yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah it was. Yeah, it was a great song. Where
Speaker 1: like the Pixie song Temple of the Brine, which is
Speaker 1: about Saltaire, which is a decaying pavilion in Utah. You know,
Speaker 1: I like songs that are just about weird stuff that
Speaker 1: is aren't necessarily about I like you, I hate you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the song VBS by Lucy Dakas or Dacas. I don't
Speaker 1: don't know how you approuns that, but that your a
Speaker 1: description of this song reminds me of that. That would
Speaker 1: be worth checking out. But yeah, but it's also interesting
Speaker 1: too because you're saying this is but isn't this about
Speaker 1: like a relationship, So it doesn't it kind of fall
Speaker 1: into the traditional like sort of you know, it does.
Speaker 1: But what I like about it is that's not to
Speaker 1: the person. It's a they're stepping back and she she said,
Speaker 1: the second qual of the second quatrain of the song
Speaker 1: is talking with my lawyer. She said, where'd you find
Speaker 1: this guy, I said, young people fall in love with
Speaker 1: the wrong people sometimes, like where'd you get up? Where'd
Speaker 1: you come up with a lawyer? What a great christ?
Speaker 1: That's yeah, who is this person? Count? Next? They said,
Speaker 1: I need to move my funds and be liquid. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: some some mistakes get made. That's all right, that's okay,
Speaker 1: It's it's just really uh, it's really uh. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: think you're you think you are in love when you're
Speaker 1: really just in pain. That's that's a great line. Alright,
Speaker 1: So the song came at the right time for you.
Speaker 1: Huh No, I think that's the other thing is not
Speaker 1: long out of that. Just enjoy it. Sometimes you're in
Speaker 1: the parade. Sometimes you watch the parade. Much better to
Speaker 1: watch the parade and be like, yeah, I used to
Speaker 1: be in that parade. Yeah, I used to be in
Speaker 1: that parade. Oh. I was saying the other day, you
Speaker 1: know what I wish if I had a wish, I
Speaker 1: wish I could have back all of the time I
Speaker 1: spent wondering what people who weren't thinking about me, we're
Speaker 1: thinking about me? Yeah, oh no, even to see a
Speaker 1: calculation of that if there are somehow some technology and
Speaker 1: like you really want to see it on paper what
Speaker 1: you did. Yeah, years so far like three years, oh
Speaker 1: yeah years years, years and they're not even You're not
Speaker 1: anywhere on their desktop. They think about me once, no,
Speaker 1: not on Yeah, it's got to be like one to
Speaker 1: one hundred, right, the amount of time we think people
Speaker 1: think they're thinking about we think people are thinking about us,
Speaker 1: versus the actual amount of time. It's got to be
Speaker 1: one to Yes, Yeah, that's a good I think that's
Speaker 1: a pretty pretty unless this one time. I'm right, because
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that after you know that mistake I
Speaker 1: made it from, they've got to be thinking about me now.
Speaker 1: There's no puzzle it over it making diagrams of what
Speaker 1: you should have said. Yeah, just so yeah, like, oh man, years,
Speaker 1: I could have saved years if you could just like
Speaker 1: unplugging like an old of those old phone switchboards you'd
Speaker 1: see in movies like Pull It On. Yeah yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: still a crushed view five three one s seven Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: no it would be I would have saved so much time, years,
Speaker 1: years of my life. Yeah, well that fixed the internet
Speaker 1: if you had to like righte to like a call
Speaker 1: center and tell them what you wanted to post and
Speaker 1: like where you wanted to post it on one website,
Speaker 1: you would that would help a lot, yeh, create a
Speaker 1: ton of jobs. And then the operator, the Twitter operator
Speaker 1: be like, are you sure you want to with this?
Speaker 1: Well one, it just seems aggressive. Yeah, yeah, you're all right,
Speaker 1: never mind, yeah you're at I'm gonna go. But you know,
Speaker 1: it's so funny who you say fix the Internet because
Speaker 1: it is such It is such a funny thing, like
Speaker 1: what is the we have all of you know, it's
Speaker 1: like we have all this amazing technology and things always
Speaker 1: go south, Like what what's the constant us? Right? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're horrible. We need something to protect us from ourselves.
Speaker 1: We have something that could teach everybody how to find
Speaker 1: sustainable water, but instead we got cake farts. No, look
Speaker 1: at this, it's insane. People fart on cage. You gotta
Speaker 1: see it. I mean that truly can't be beat. Though,
Speaker 1: you know, the term the anti cake part movement is
Speaker 1: really pulled up and no, but it is. It's like, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: we we suck. That's the problem. We have not we
Speaker 1: have not mastered our our lack of self awareness or
Speaker 1: knowing chimpanzee with a flamethrower, what could go wrong? I
Speaker 1: don't know, give it a sicker flame thrower. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: You can always can always count on you. That's the
Speaker 1: best thing about human behavior. There's no bottom, right just
Speaker 1: when we think we've hit it, Yep, there's no boat floor.
Speaker 1: There's no bottom. All right, Let's take a quick break
Speaker 1: and we'll come back and talk about an illustration of
Speaker 1: that Tucker Carlson, And we're back, and Tucker is certainly
Speaker 1: the kremlin favorite new spokesperson. He's uh yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: you've got literally like the like the committee to like
Speaker 1: for telecommunication messaging, some official department at the Kremlin sending
Speaker 1: this out to like all the state media outlets because
Speaker 1: independent media has basically been shuttered because you will go
Speaker 1: to jail. And they said in this mental quote in
Speaker 1: the translation, it is essential to use as much as
Speaker 1: possible fragments of broadcasts of the popular Fox News host
Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson, who sharply criticizes the actions of the United
Speaker 1: States and NATO, their negative role in unleashing the conflict
Speaker 1: in Ukraine, the and the defiant Lee, provocative behavior from
Speaker 1: the leadership of the Western countries and NATO towards the
Speaker 1: Russian Federation and towards President Putin personally, and it's a
Speaker 1: twelve page document going on about how we need more
Speaker 1: Tucker and it goes on to say that his position is,
Speaker 1: quote Russia is only protecting its interests and security, that
Speaker 1: that is the talking point that Tucker Carlson communicates to
Speaker 1: millions of viewer every day. And like clockwork, like observers
Speaker 1: of like Russian state media were like, oh, yeah, just
Speaker 1: so you know, this little clip played the other day
Speaker 1: on TV and yes, so, I mean, I don't speak Russian,
Speaker 1: but you will hear Tucker Carlson very briefly before his
Speaker 1: whole segment is translated, just so they're they're going pretty
Speaker 1: hard with the Tucker Carlson clips again because it makes
Speaker 1: it seem like there's someone in the United States that's
Speaker 1: also been like, yeah, we're like, we totally get it,
Speaker 1: but while also you have someone spreading all this misinformation
Speaker 1: to their viewers. And like you know, he's been saying
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff that aligns with many of like
Speaker 1: Crumlin Kreumlin talking points as it relates to this invasion,
Speaker 1: and he's been openly hostile to like the other journalists
Speaker 1: at Fox that dared to debunk anything. Last week, we're
Speaker 1: talking about Jennifer Griffin, who was making waves by just
Speaker 1: eloquently just destroying any misinformation that a guest was saying
Speaker 1: on Fox, and this led Carlson to imply that she
Speaker 1: is somehow a Pentagon plant. And I'm just want to
Speaker 1: play this clip too, because it's really interesting the way
Speaker 1: like that he's trying to, I guess, shape the perception
Speaker 1: of this journalist. So let's just take a quick listen
Speaker 1: at his attack on her. Well, in our case, we
Speaker 1: always start with retired Colonel Doug McGregor. Unlike so many
Speaker 1: of the TV generals you see all day long, McGregor
Speaker 1: is not angling for a board seat at Raytheon. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's a very progressive perspective on like how this group
Speaker 1: of person's talking points are. And again, this guy McGregor
Speaker 1: was on a while back just saying all kinds of
Speaker 1: nonsense that Jennifer Griffin had to come immediately come on
Speaker 1: in debunk. So that's why Tucker is sort of taking
Speaker 1: his side. I mean, like, and we're gonna start with
Speaker 1: the guy who spews disinformation, unlike so many of the
Speaker 1: so called reporters you see on television, he is not
Speaker 1: acting secretly as a flak for Lloyd Austin at the Pentagon. No,
Speaker 1: Doug McGregor is an honest man. So it's just a
Speaker 1: very it's a very strange like pent like he's a
Speaker 1: Pentagon plant. I don't like that. Sounds like something here,
Speaker 1: like leftists. That's the fascinating thing. And it's it's the
Speaker 1: somebody described it as the horseshoe where it goes two ways.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm old enough to remember the nineteen I
Speaker 1: don't remember the fifties, but from the fifties up through
Speaker 1: the nineties, the Republican Party was based on fierce, staunch,
Speaker 1: aggressive anti communism and a specifically anti Soviet communism. And
Speaker 1: they're they're constant attack on Democrats was that they were
Speaker 1: soft on communism, they were soft on Russian and now
Speaker 1: that has been subverted. Were people on the far right
Speaker 1: are enamored of this, although it's at the Soviet Union anymore,
Speaker 1: but they were enamored of this, you know, police state,
Speaker 1: what Reagan called the Evil Empire. Like they're anti United
Speaker 1: States and pro Russia. I mean to say that they're
Speaker 1: a Pentagon plant. I mean, it's it's just an anti
Speaker 1: American says, but but it but it uh and but
Speaker 1: it it goes to is the primary ethos that Fox
Speaker 1: and this is really stems from Murdoch's son who now
Speaker 1: runs that. I can't think of his name. L Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just like it's just anti X, the anti X
Speaker 1: because they need to. They appeal to people's sense of
Speaker 1: outrage and victimization and so whatever the mainstream media is
Speaker 1: for there against which positions them and we're right there
Speaker 1: wrong where the victims are the aggressors in this case,
Speaker 1: he is perfectly positioned to be anti everything America stands for.
Speaker 1: But then like pointing out like there's like there's a
Speaker 1: Pentagon to Military industrial complex revolving door. Folks like I
Speaker 1: didn't think I would. You just found out about this one.
Speaker 1: And that's where they pick up the people that are
Speaker 1: so far on the left, they've come around to the
Speaker 1: right right, which you know, because they're just it's it's
Speaker 1: really it's just like it's it's hard to grow up
Speaker 1: being a mom and dad are complicated. Sometimes you make
Speaker 1: right decisions too, you know, they can't always be wrong,
Speaker 1: that's mathematically impossible. Yeah, that was something that it took
Speaker 1: me a long time to learn that, Like, it's not
Speaker 1: that my dad is the only person who's wrong about
Speaker 1: everything and everybody else. It's like, come on, man, and
Speaker 1: I have I have, you know, people that I know that.
Speaker 1: It's just like now it's now Ukraine's full of Nazis.
Speaker 1: You know, they love Nazis. When they attack the capitol
Speaker 1: in January six, those Nazis were great. But now we
Speaker 1: don't like Nazis. But they're different from those Nazis. You know,
Speaker 1: it's whatever is against mom and dad. They're they're definitely
Speaker 1: like a lot of people who agree that the US
Speaker 1: should not be taking should not have like asked Ukraine
Speaker 1: to or like offered Ukraine to join NATO back and
Speaker 1: like eight years ago or something, and like the people
Speaker 1: saying that like kind of kicked off the conflict. But
Speaker 1: anything where an entire segment of your show is being
Speaker 1: played on Russian state television suggests that you are probably
Speaker 1: not giving as nuanced to take as like you you
Speaker 1: might want to. When the government that you are supporting
Speaker 1: is like bombing civilians constantly, like on a rate you'd
Speaker 1: think you would want to like add a slice of
Speaker 1: that texture in there. Any anytime you're talking about this
Speaker 1: story famous military aggressors NATO, right, and I'm thinking, like,
Speaker 1: how how how far off are they from going like
Speaker 1: you know, to doing all this like equivocating to me, like,
Speaker 1: and the US does this all the time. So what's
Speaker 1: the problem with putin? You know what I mean? You're like,
Speaker 1: whoa Like, if we're talking war crimes everything US president
Speaker 1: has been a war criminal during times of armed conflict.
Speaker 1: And there's actually you know, they were even threatening to
Speaker 1: you don't sucking invade the hay if they're there any
Speaker 1: kind of war crime charges brought against the US. And
Speaker 1: it's like, so are we really that different? And it's
Speaker 1: like I feel like there's there's like some bizarro ship
Speaker 1: just on the brink of bringing this kind of thinking
Speaker 1: in because it was just very strange to see those things. Well,
Speaker 1: it's the second part. It's like, you know America does
Speaker 1: this too, So what's wrong with it? Well, it's wrong,
Speaker 1: it's wrong when we do it. Well that's not wrong too,
Speaker 1: then it's wrong, yeah, but we do it Okay, so
Speaker 1: then full stop, it's wrong. We shouldn't be doing that, right,
Speaker 1: I don't know, But Tucker, he's gotta be careful because
Speaker 1: he's gonna end up talking like about why he understands
Speaker 1: why so many people want socialism on his show again
Speaker 1: like he did like two summers ago, and I was like, wait, huh,
Speaker 1: what what he's like? But you know, the well, the
Speaker 1: good thing about this is, you know, if if he
Speaker 1: was thinking of running for president, he has now staked
Speaker 1: out a position that of the country opposes. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and those will hail Bop or Jim, like people will
Speaker 1: kill themselves for you. There's a lot of sheep out there,
Speaker 1: but there's not enough, right he was the socialism thing
Speaker 1: was wild because it was like like five minutes straight
Speaker 1: where I was like, yeah, that that's right too, That's
Speaker 1: that's right. But he was describing it when you look
Speaker 1: at the broader context. He was describing it as like
Speaker 1: this is a big like opportunity for the right to
Speaker 1: take advantage of, like how many disenfranchised people there are
Speaker 1: in this country as opposed to be as a human
Speaker 1: who has empathy for other human beings and I don't.
Speaker 1: It's very strange for someone who like I've always been
Speaker 1: a you know, a pretty liberal thinker and then voted
Speaker 1: democratic and you know, to be we were the ones
Speaker 1: that were accused of being soft on Russia by the
Speaker 1: Republican The Republicans, we love Russia. The problems we liked,
Speaker 1: you know when they were, when they were reforms going on.
Speaker 1: We were for that. No, we wanted to get the
Speaker 1: old KGB guy in there, the strong man. That's what
Speaker 1: we want. Yeah, and you know what you couldn't do
Speaker 1: in Russia your show right right, you know his uh
Speaker 1: And recently he's now also been you know, repeating the
Speaker 1: same claims we hear about there's like the US is
Speaker 1: running bio labs in Ukraine where they're working on chemical weapons.
Speaker 1: And you're like, hold on, because this also follows like
Speaker 1: the very Russian art of projection or most leaders do,
Speaker 1: where it's like this came on the heels of like
Speaker 1: intelligence analysts, thing like they're distributing like biochemical like chemical
Speaker 1: weapons suits to their soldiers. We potentially think that they're
Speaker 1: this may be part of the strategy. And then you
Speaker 1: hear the things like there's actually biolabs, there's bio labs
Speaker 1: in Ukraine that the US is working on and again
Speaker 1: Jennifer Garner had to go on later on handity to
Speaker 1: basically explain, like these are from the Soviet era, and
Speaker 1: the U S has been like involved in trying to
Speaker 1: make sure that nothing gets out of these labs, if
Speaker 1: there is anything there, and to just offline them and
Speaker 1: it's like this isn't a working fucking like bio lab
Speaker 1: or whatever. And to just say that they're they're completely
Speaker 1: strips away all this other context. But that's been a
Speaker 1: huge thing that even Tucker Carlson is saying in Tulsi
Speaker 1: Gabbard now, so uh, yeah, they're you know, and yeah,
Speaker 1: and again, I mean, all these people get a lot
Speaker 1: of money and rubles to have these opinions. You know,
Speaker 1: they get paid a lot of money by RT to
Speaker 1: to have these opinions. And and the other thing is,
Speaker 1: again it's the same reason they're against vaccines. It's because
Speaker 1: the government, right, this is the right, and it's like nothing,
Speaker 1: you know, you you love America so much, you know
Speaker 1: that anything it's government says is wrong and that it's evil,
Speaker 1: right unless it's Donald Trump. And and for example, my
Speaker 1: oldest brother, who's a big trumpe Republican, he didn't want
Speaker 1: to get uh he's not vaccinated. And it's fearce like
Speaker 1: we we both have different fears. And my fear is
Speaker 1: that I'm going to get COVID, and his fear is
Speaker 1: that the government, the same people in charge of the
Speaker 1: post Office and the d m V, is also behind
Speaker 1: a seamless global conspiracy. It's like, have you tried to
Speaker 1: buy stamps? Yeah, Like at this point, I go to
Speaker 1: a website to do it. It's like, you can't. Like
Speaker 1: if I stood in line to get my vaccine and
Speaker 1: at the end of the vaccine line they gave me
Speaker 1: a tennis ball and one shoe, I would think, yeah,
Speaker 1: the government is behind this whole thing. Yeah, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's just but you can't You also can't argue with
Speaker 1: it because it's a beautiful self. The minute you prove
Speaker 1: them wrong, they use that. Of course, that's why they
Speaker 1: did that on you know, It's just you can't pull
Speaker 1: people out of their own assholes. We talked last week
Speaker 1: about how there's a lot of like that that is
Speaker 1: coming directly from Russian disinformation, the like labs in in Ukraine,
Speaker 1: they the weapons labs in Ukraine, and like that's why
Speaker 1: they're being targeted and Fauci somehow involved. I think the
Speaker 1: labs in Ukraine and so it seems like they're all
Speaker 1: drinking from to make it about them, right, Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: there is this like this strange synergy with conspiracy theorists
Speaker 1: Q and on, like Russian and disinformation like you're talking about,
Speaker 1: because like, yeah, the the idea from Q and on
Speaker 1: is like we actually know Donald Trump's working with Putin,
Speaker 1: like you're saying, to go against Dr Fauci's bio Labs
Speaker 1: was how it was sort of spun the last couple
Speaker 1: of weeks. There's a new fu being conspiracy now that's
Speaker 1: even fucking just all over the place. Yeah, there's a
Speaker 1: new just what it should be. But this new one
Speaker 1: is totally dude, this one completely right now overlaps with
Speaker 1: the bio lab ship, but it's really fucking bad. So
Speaker 1: this guy, this disinformation expert on Twitter, Marco and Jones,
Speaker 1: he said, you know, he regularly looks at like telegram
Speaker 1: channels or que people are talking to each other, and
Speaker 1: this new one has been starting to gain traction. And
Speaker 1: it all has to do with how Trump says China. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's that's exactly. I'm not joking. It's all about how
Speaker 1: we only says China or China, and just the way
Speaker 1: he says that people like that's an interesting affect. So
Speaker 1: this whole thing is like the theory posits, what if
Speaker 1: he was trying to send us a secret message? Was
Speaker 1: the way he was saying China all these years, and
Speaker 1: it goes to say that, you know, he would say
Speaker 1: like the China virus or the China created COVID. What
Speaker 1: if he wasn't actually talking about China but a place
Speaker 1: in Ukraine called China. And you're like, wait, hold on
Speaker 1: what So these people pulled up these like Google maps
Speaker 1: links with these terribly like translated names. There's a place
Speaker 1: called Troyes China and Shipple China c h y n A.
Speaker 1: And these people have basically said, look, China's right on
Speaker 1: the end of this there's there. We also see that
Speaker 1: this is near a bio lab. So this is what's
Speaker 1: actually fucking happening. So the Democrats actually made the virus
Speaker 1: and this is what this is what's all at stake now.
Speaker 1: And I just want to point out that a lot
Speaker 1: of people who are actually you know, like native speakers,
Speaker 1: are like, this is not even how you'd pronounce it, like,
Speaker 1: shut up, shut the fun. The theory beneath that is
Speaker 1: the guy from the Access Hollywood tapes, was afraid to
Speaker 1: say something, to put it in language because he didn't
Speaker 1: want to come out and say it. Yeah, but there
Speaker 1: are a lot of people that, you know, people like
Speaker 1: a night. There are a lot of fascists and waiting
Speaker 1: they like they like it until they live under it. Right,
Speaker 1: It's like they think they think Joe Biden is a fascist,
Speaker 1: but they really want a real fascist exactly. But it's
Speaker 1: just again it's like my dad can't my parents can't
Speaker 1: be right there, my parents right And yeah, and this
Speaker 1: is also done in this really interesting thing where because
Speaker 1: now the China he was talking about is in Ukraine,
Speaker 1: all these q and honors have now been like, oh,
Speaker 1: that absolves China of any wrongdoing. And even though we
Speaker 1: were going so hard on the anti Chinese stuff as
Speaker 1: part of the like conspiracy theories, because of this one
Speaker 1: it like up ends the table. And now President she
Speaker 1: is part of a fucking triumvirate along with Putin and
Speaker 1: Trump where they're fighting the deep state. Yeah, so like
Speaker 1: it's so much to get to like to make the
Speaker 1: deep state, which is the deep state used to be Aliens,
Speaker 1: used to be you know, the devil. It's just the
Speaker 1: nice it's it's you know, it's that's what they talk about,
Speaker 1: like the oligarchy, the you know, we're gonna fight the
Speaker 1: oligarchy because there's no concrete thing there to fight. You
Speaker 1: can always be against it, you can always are you,
Speaker 1: and you can have people goosen your Patreon for your
Speaker 1: podcast until you're old and great. Exactly. It's pretty incredible.
Speaker 1: They managed to like consolidate every major authoritarian figure, basically
Speaker 1: the three most powerful authoritarian figures they got one. I
Speaker 1: did a thing on my podcast a couple of months
Speaker 1: ago where I just listed every Q and on prediction
Speaker 1: and there's like and none of them happened, like didntap,
Speaker 1: didn't happen, didn't happen, didn't happen, And still yeah, but
Speaker 1: that proves it's right, right, right exactly. They can't the
Speaker 1: numbers up. You're like, okay, they can't. But there are
Speaker 1: a lot of people that are crazy, and there are
Speaker 1: a lot of people that are just running adrift. You know,
Speaker 1: we all know people that are are just running a
Speaker 1: great and uh financially profitable grift, playing on people's anger
Speaker 1: and paranoia, and you know, it's it's uh, it's sad,
Speaker 1: but it's not the only thing is, it's it's not
Speaker 1: new rights away, It's always been there. Let's take a break,
Speaker 1: we'll come back and talk about Dolly Parton, and we're
Speaker 1: back and if anything can pull us out of this
Speaker 1: depressing spiral of news that we've caught ourselves in on
Speaker 1: this Tuesday. Uh, let's talk to Dolly Parton. She's out
Speaker 1: here doing the right thing again in in a different way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: explain this. So I saw just this thing that says
Speaker 1: she's not she's bowing out of being nomine or she
Speaker 1: she wants to come out of contention for being inducted
Speaker 1: into the Hall of Fame because she doesn't want to
Speaker 1: split votes. She doesn't want to Yeah. Basically, so the
Speaker 1: class that they were nominating included back Devo, Kate Bush, Eminem,
Speaker 1: Rage against the Machine, Carly Simon, and others, and she
Speaker 1: pulled out because she didn't want and herself to take
Speaker 1: away any votes, which probably she would have been like
Speaker 1: a unanimous runaway because she's so popular right now. And
Speaker 1: her explanation was, you know, I do hope the Rock
Speaker 1: and Roll Hall of Fame will understand and we'll be
Speaker 1: willing to consider me again if I'm ever worthy. This
Speaker 1: has however, inspired me to put out a hopefully great
Speaker 1: rock and roll album at some point in the future,
Speaker 1: which I've always wanted to do. So basically, just like
Speaker 1: I don't make rock music, and I don't feel like
Speaker 1: I should get nominated ahead of all these other people
Speaker 1: who do actually make rock music, like Eminem, right, like Eminem.
Speaker 1: So it's interesting. JM. A writer Jam McNabb, put together
Speaker 1: kind of a history of the Rock and Roll Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame, and it is, you know, very American. So
Speaker 1: it started as a marketing grift basically, I know, just
Speaker 1: like Woodstock, though I mean wood Stock also was dreamed
Speaker 1: up by people on Park Avenue. But yeah, basically it
Speaker 1: started as a guy I wanted to put together a
Speaker 1: TV special featuring rock grads from the fifties and sixties,
Speaker 1: and an admin suggested changing the name to the Rock
Speaker 1: and Roll Hall of Fame. Along with the name change,
Speaker 1: they planned a modest museum so that said name would
Speaker 1: make sense. That's that's it, and then like there rose
Speaker 1: that show like basically never happened, but people, you know,
Speaker 1: the the TV producer got squeezed out of the organization.
Speaker 1: They started making their own specials once his five year
Speaker 1: deal expired at the end of the eighties, and that's
Speaker 1: where we get this idea of a rock and roll
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. But yeah, I mean, like I on
Speaker 1: the one hand, like I think Doty Parton should be
Speaker 1: in the rock and Roll Hall of Fame. It's great,
Speaker 1: like another chance to celebrate her in her music. But yeah,
Speaker 1: whatever she wants, right, yeah, literally, whatever she want, and
Speaker 1: that's how she does. That's how she lives her life too,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. She's just like, I'll do
Speaker 1: whatever the funk I want and who knows, Like you know,
Speaker 1: supposedly covered in tattoos. Yeah right, that's one of one
Speaker 1: of my favorite conspiracy theories. Roll up the sleeves, show
Speaker 1: the guns. Yeah. So, I mean the way they do
Speaker 1: the nomination process is kind of confused and half asked.
Speaker 1: To begin with. You've got just basically forty anonymous music
Speaker 1: journalists who put together the nominating list, and then that
Speaker 1: list is voted on by a larger pool working in
Speaker 1: the industry. Again, I think they're mostly like anonymous, so
Speaker 1: you have to just look at the results to get
Speaker 1: a sense of their taste or any biases that might
Speaker 1: d in place, such as Eminem getting on the list
Speaker 1: of nominees ahead of most great rappers. And it's just
Speaker 1: like the Academy Awards. I mean it's rare. The best
Speaker 1: picture is the best picture, right right. Yeah, And it's
Speaker 1: like the if the Academy Awards started in the eighties
Speaker 1: and I was like, all right, let's get all these
Speaker 1: knock out all these movies for the from the past
Speaker 1: hundred years all at the same time, and then you
Speaker 1: let a bunch of old white guys vote on it.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you would end up with a pretty skewed,
Speaker 1: pretty skewed results. Exactly. Well, it's it's weird. Had like
Speaker 1: they're also like, you know, like Miles Davis will be
Speaker 1: an inductee. But then there's like this big blind spot
Speaker 1: for like big black other black artists, even though and
Speaker 1: maybe in our mind they're using like, well they're not
Speaker 1: really raw, but it's like, well, hold on exactly, they
Speaker 1: only get your talented people. So what what's the logic
Speaker 1: of this nomination process to begin with? Yeah, people say
Speaker 1: they specifically have a blind spot for post disco, r
Speaker 1: and b X and black female artists. Shot Day has
Speaker 1: never been nominated. Even Shaka Khan was like nominated several
Speaker 1: times but then removed. Did these people ever fuck in
Speaker 1: the late age? And you don't have that on your
Speaker 1: fucking list? Like, do you fucking know anything about music?
Speaker 1: How is tone loke not in there? Right? It's like
Speaker 1: a wild thing, man, Yeah, but it does just seem
Speaker 1: like they check the c ratings of various celebrities and
Speaker 1: are like, all right, Dolly, pardon's hot right now, let's
Speaker 1: throw in there, right. Yeah, It's just it's like people
Speaker 1: who say the jfk assassination was when America lost its innocence, right,
Speaker 1: They did nothing else before that, nothing before that, and
Speaker 1: it wasn't innocent. Yeah, fucking around with atomic bombs, right, okay,
Speaker 1: slavery maybe sleep it's a mistake. And Jackie got shot
Speaker 1: only at the best intentions. Oh you know that was
Speaker 1: all set up? But I fout you right, Yeah, is
Speaker 1: gonna be back any day? The people to be the villain, right, doctor,
Speaker 1: Like yeah, I don't know, you know, even like even
Speaker 1: in the memes they make, it's so hard to make
Speaker 1: him look evil, you know how Like Hillary Clinton, they'll
Speaker 1: find like something like her mid sneeze or something that
Speaker 1: ship Like all the photos are like he just looks
Speaker 1: like a stock photo of nice old doctor guy. Like
Speaker 1: even with a red filter, it's I don't know, they're
Speaker 1: visually not really catching. There's a clip I don't know
Speaker 1: if you saw the documentary about Mr Rogers. I think
Speaker 1: it's called Won't You Beat My Neighbor? I think it's
Speaker 1: a beautiful, beautiful, I mean the whole, the whole premise
Speaker 1: of the dock if you haven't seen it is he
Speaker 1: was really Mr Rogers. He was It was a beautiful
Speaker 1: human being who worked really hard and had a family
Speaker 1: and none of his kids are meth heads. They all
Speaker 1: love him and they miss him, and his wife is lovely.
Speaker 1: And he was a minister and he worked really hard.
Speaker 1: He had adversity and he struggled through it, and he
Speaker 1: was famous all of his life. And he never raped anybody.
Speaker 1: And we don't know how that happened. We're studying it.
Speaker 1: But there was a thing like Fox News that they
Speaker 1: were they were complete. They were attacking Mr Rogers because
Speaker 1: he said that every kid is special, and so like
Speaker 1: that's the problem with society. This guy thinks every kid
Speaker 1: is special and they're not. No, he just means that
Speaker 1: they're kids deserve love. That's all he says. Love, you know,
Speaker 1: and it's it's when you have a problem whom in
Speaker 1: your brain where everything provokes anger, and that your your
Speaker 1: knee jerk response to everything is anger, that you will
Speaker 1: find yourself defying logic to justify your emotion, like attacking
Speaker 1: somebody like Anthony or or Mr. Rogers. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean I think there's a lot of toxic masculinity like
Speaker 1: that shaped you know me, Like growing up, I came
Speaker 1: out of the process of like being a teenager feeling
Speaker 1: like the only acceptable emotion was anger, and that like
Speaker 1: sadness and you know, guilt and any vulnerable emotion had
Speaker 1: to like go into the black box and come out
Speaker 1: as anger, and like it takes. Yeah, there's a great
Speaker 1: quote to that end, a great quote that I have
Speaker 1: on my desktop by Joe Strummer of The Clash. Punk
Speaker 1: rock means exemplary manners to your fellow human beings. Fuck
Speaker 1: being an asshole, which is what some of you pricks
Speaker 1: thought it was. Like, Yeah, well, speaking of punk rock,
Speaker 1: we do have to talk about the Shamrock Shake because
Speaker 1: sat Patrick's day is coming up, and there's nothing more
Speaker 1: punk rock than one of my very best friends, my
Speaker 1: rider died Ken Daily was in a Shamrock Shake commercial
Speaker 1: as a child actor in Like and if you if
Speaker 1: you YouTube Shamrock Shake commercial, ours are you will see
Speaker 1: hilarious young Ken Daily and the Shamrock He was also
Speaker 1: in the movie The Karate Kid. He was Ralph Maccio's
Speaker 1: buddy and the Karate Kid. Wait, which one the one
Speaker 1: who ditches him at the beach when he gets kicked? Uh?
Speaker 1: Well he but he's the one that's there at the fight.
Speaker 1: At the end, it's like, you did it, you did it,
Speaker 1: you did Yeah, he says, buddy, and uh and uh
Speaker 1: and the Karate Kid and yeah, he's got a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff. Karate Kid is second on my list of movies.
Speaker 1: I watched, you know, a hundred times before I was
Speaker 1: seven years old. So, yeah, do you watch Do you
Speaker 1: watch Cobra Kai? I watched up through season three and yeah,
Speaker 1: I have my shark jumping meter started going, what have
Speaker 1: I haven't seen season four yet? What goes? What I
Speaker 1: haven't I didn't watch it? Please don't tell me they
Speaker 1: all become spies or something gets very cute and on,
Speaker 1: yeah it is it is, uh it. But one thing
Speaker 1: about the show which I love is that as somebody
Speaker 1: who lives there where the show takes place. Now, you know,
Speaker 1: it's like, not everyone's in a dojo. Like I drive
Speaker 1: around all day and I'll really meet anyone who's in
Speaker 1: a dojo. I you know what I was. I was
Speaker 1: in Griffith Park this weekend hiking with my wife and
Speaker 1: there was like many large art classes doing like demonstrations,
Speaker 1: and then we were like driving home from that and
Speaker 1: there was a dojo that was like bursting at the
Speaker 1: door with like people. I was like, it's all happening,
Speaker 1: It's all happening. This is what I always dreamed living
Speaker 1: in southern California would be like the karate craze of
Speaker 1: twenty two. So they only get released around this time
Speaker 1: of year in limited quantities. There's a highly devoted fandom.
Speaker 1: You know, Jam wrote this taste like Scope a little bit.
Speaker 1: They taste like Scope tainted vanilla milkshake. But you know,
Speaker 1: Jam called it an eerily green drink. But you know
Speaker 1: it's anyone who's familiar with Macha, it's not. There's nothing
Speaker 1: eerie about that in the building. Does it get its
Speaker 1: green coloring from anything as wholesome as like machetil. It's
Speaker 1: probably not, we must say definitely not. But as an
Speaker 1: Irish person, I don't think of ice cream when I
Speaker 1: you know, what's a drink? The Irish like ice cream?
Speaker 1: Nice foamy mouthwashy ice cream mouthwash. Yeah, it's a it's
Speaker 1: the only dessert mouthwash we have. Yeah, and helps cover
Speaker 1: any odors on your breath when you head home. Hey
Speaker 1: come on, now, he in the that in the mic
Speaker 1: rib right. I mean they know what they're they're doing.
Speaker 1: They've been doing the shamrock chake for yeah, longer than
Speaker 1: I thought. I thought it just like popped up in
Speaker 1: the nineties, but this is long. No, no, no though. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: There is a shamrock shake finder app you can use
Speaker 1: to make sure shake. And there's even a founding controversy
Speaker 1: of like who invented it. There was somebody in Connecticut
Speaker 1: claimed to have invented in sixty six and seventy. There
Speaker 1: was a promotion around it to like use money for
Speaker 1: children's medical treatment, and McDonald's like disputed that claim that
Speaker 1: it was invented by one of their franchisees in sixty
Speaker 1: six and now just like quietly changed it to be
Speaker 1: the fact after like defaming this franchise for years. But
Speaker 1: there's also Uncle Oh Grimacy, Uncle Oh Grimmace. He's basically
Speaker 1: a green Grimace who started uh popping up in McDonald's
Speaker 1: ads in the mid seventies, made of like a a
Speaker 1: green fur that looks very similar to oscar. He seemed
Speaker 1: to somehow be made of shamrock shake material yet also
Speaker 1: drank it. Just sort of like the human equivalent of
Speaker 1: a guy that walked around eating his own hand, right.
Speaker 1: But yeah, and then in McDonald's tweeted an image celebrating
Speaker 1: this Irish tweet with the image of a guy turning
Speaker 1: ache with like five straws into you know, the traditional
Speaker 1: in Irish instrument bagpipe, said against the traditional Irish landscape
Speaker 1: of Stonehenge. Dude, just take a dump right on the
Speaker 1: flag for the putting a ton of thought. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: a great traditional Irish tiki hut right. Oh they can't
Speaker 1: they can't win. Anyways, I haven't had one since I
Speaker 1: was a kid. But well, it's sort of like, do
Speaker 1: you guys drink boba at all? That's the new thing.
Speaker 1: It's like, here's the delicious drink. Now, let's pour some
Speaker 1: ship in it that makes it hard to drink. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you choke on it's funny in the beginning, Like when
Speaker 1: I was in high school, I loved it with Boba.
Speaker 1: Now I'll go and I'm like, no, Boba, hold the boat. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it gets stuck in the straw. Then you started drinking
Speaker 1: your your head starts to right, did you? But glot Grimacy, though,
Speaker 1: was also controversial because there's this like Jay was pointing
Speaker 1: out that an event in seventy eight a guy and
Speaker 1: an Uncle o. Grimacy costume, Like this is a rumor
Speaker 1: like on Mike or whatever just said that quote the
Speaker 1: only good British soldier is a dead British soldier. Well
Speaker 1: then that meant something in Yeah, so that's the rumor
Speaker 1: as to why Uncle o'grimacy disappeared. Shamrock shake the official
Speaker 1: drink of the Troubles. I mean, they're they were like
Speaker 1: trying to intimate too, that he was like connected to
Speaker 1: the i RA, like, oh he was shin fame, man,
Speaker 1: you better watch out, Like what the fu? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean even the Philly Voice said Uncle Ogrimacy was let
Speaker 1: go shortly after because of his controversial ties to the IRA.
Speaker 1: I don't know if Philly Voice is to be entirely
Speaker 1: taking a face value here, but it's fell fastastic. Yeah right, Well,
Speaker 1: Dana as always such a pleasure having you where can't
Speaker 1: we're can people find you and follow you? Well, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm Dana Gould on all platforms. I have a little
Speaker 1: podcast called The Dana Gould Hour, which is just me
Speaker 1: hacking around. But the thing that I would like to
Speaker 1: draw people to is on YouTube Cube. I have a
Speaker 1: show called Hanging with Doctor Z, which is a It's
Speaker 1: basically what if Dr zais from Planet of the Apes
Speaker 1: had a talk show in the seventies, you know that old,
Speaker 1: that old idea. It was during the pandemic and Rob Cohen,
Speaker 1: who's a writing partner of mine, and an old friend,
Speaker 1: we were sitting around board out our skulls because it
Speaker 1: was pandemic, and we thought, what could we do that
Speaker 1: was really really expensive that would also put us at
Speaker 1: risk of being sued by Disney, And I came up
Speaker 1: with this idea. It's called Hanging with Dr Z. And
Speaker 1: you just go on YouTube hanging with Dr period Z
Speaker 1: or doctors however it'll get you there. Uh yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a it's a it's a really it's the mixture of
Speaker 1: between two ferns and Planet of the Apes. That America
Speaker 1: has been I've been wanting uh and uh and uh. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're in our second We're in our second season right now,
Speaker 1: and it's people really like it. Oh, it is exactly
Speaker 1: if you're looking at it, it's it is exactly what
Speaker 1: they have. Are you playing one of Are you playing
Speaker 1: dr Z? Yeah, that's me and uh, it's sort of Uh,
Speaker 1: it's I can tell you the story behind it, but uh,
Speaker 1: you don't really need it. It's just it's it's ten
Speaker 1: minutes an episode, and I can only describe them as
Speaker 1: beautifully stupid. I love it all right. And is there
Speaker 1: a tweet or some other work of social media that
Speaker 1: you've been enjoying? Yeah, well, to one Emo Phillips, who
Speaker 1: was one of the best followers on Twitter had it,
Speaker 1: had a tweet the other day that just should be
Speaker 1: put into bronze, which is, uh, no one on Twitter
Speaker 1: should be complaining about losing an hour like he was.
Speaker 1: He is always. Emo Phillips and Blaine Capatch are the
Speaker 1: two people on Twitter that just like I read their
Speaker 1: Twitter fees and I just want to quit. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: did you ever see the one? Did you ever see
Speaker 1: the one with it was? It was a guy and
Speaker 1: he would like he would fall over on his desk
Speaker 1: and then he turned into ice and then he was
Speaker 1: just like this amazing kind of still like you fall over,
Speaker 1: and but it would when he hit the ground, it
Speaker 1: was like a bunch of bananas or he fell over
Speaker 1: his desk, it was like a bunch of ice cubes,
Speaker 1: like this beautiful thing and he Emo tweated. Even even
Speaker 1: if this turns out to be some kind of special effect,
Speaker 1: it's really amazing. Emo and Blaine are just brutal, brutally great.
Speaker 1: Miles Where can people find you? What is the tweet
Speaker 1: you've been enjoying? You can find me on Twitter and
Speaker 1: Instagram at Miles of Gray. Also the other show for
Speaker 1: twenty day Fiance with Sophie Alexander. We talked ninety day Fiance.
Speaker 1: Some tweets that I like. First one is from a
Speaker 1: at Abolished Wages tweeted Mike kink is informing test loaners
Speaker 1: that of the electricity used to charge their cars comes
Speaker 1: from fossil fuels. And Mary at neco Page tweeted happy
Speaker 1: my car clock is right again day to all who celebrate,
Speaker 1: Shout out to my daylight savings, non clock changers. Let's
Speaker 1: see I was off Twitter all weekend, so I'm I'm looking.
Speaker 1: I'm looking. Yeah. No, that's there's nothing good this weekend.
Speaker 1: Good to know. Yeah, I might have quoted this one. No.
Speaker 1: Garfen Gold tweeted a picture of Batman screaming and he said,
Speaker 1: the doctor is a woman that's destroys me. Oh, speaking
Speaker 1: of speaking of Batman, people need to go and watch
Speaker 1: the Adam West Batman because when I I know, when
Speaker 1: I was a kid. I don't know how many people
Speaker 1: are even familiar with it that are under forty, but
Speaker 1: the TV show Batman was was put on and reruns
Speaker 1: in the afternoons, and people thought it was a kid show.
Speaker 1: But it's actually much closer to Police Squad than it
Speaker 1: is to a kid show. I mean, it's if police
Speaker 1: Squad starts here, and if airplane and police squads start here,
Speaker 1: Batman comes right up to here. Yeah, it's so brutally
Speaker 1: funny to watch it as an adult knowing that it's
Speaker 1: just great. You're talking about it lasts last week last
Speaker 1: week like one of the most recent episodes. Because I
Speaker 1: was obsessed with superheroes as like a four year old.
Speaker 1: My four year old is currently obsessed with superhero so
Speaker 1: I was like, we're watching Superman, and like he was
Speaker 1: really into that, and I was like, the next thing,
Speaker 1: Like the my main superhero diet up to, like at
Speaker 1: this point in my life was the Adam West Batman, right,
Speaker 1: So yeah, my mom would just put me in front
Speaker 1: of that when I was before I was school age
Speaker 1: and sure, but it's actually if you can watch it
Speaker 1: is as an adult. You didn't as a kid. You
Speaker 1: don't realize how funny funny it. Yeah, we had Adam,
Speaker 1: I know, we were out of time. We we had
Speaker 1: Adam on The Simpsons and he was voicing Batman because
Speaker 1: it was an episode it was an old episode of
Speaker 1: Batman that Krusty the Clown was on and Crusty Decline
Speaker 1: had him tied up and we had done all of
Speaker 1: his dialogue and then we just said to him it
Speaker 1: was the greatest guy in the world, by the way,
Speaker 1: Uh so wonderful. And we said to him, now we
Speaker 1: just need some wild like grunts and grounds like you're
Speaker 1: you know, you're tied up and you're struggling in vain.
Speaker 1: And he went struggling in vain. We didn't tell him
Speaker 1: to do that either. That was all handed you are, sir, yeah,
Speaker 1: he was, and he was lovely. He was lovely, great, amazing.
Speaker 1: But the thing I'm bracing myself where Jack is you
Speaker 1: show your kids Adam West Batman, We're like, oh, that
Speaker 1: ship's so good, and then they're like, what the fuck
Speaker 1: is this? Batman got that droopy chest. I learned from
Speaker 1: the nineteen seventy eight Super Superman that they will endure
Speaker 1: a lot of boring ship till they get to the
Speaker 1: superhero part. To watch a live action human play a
Speaker 1: superhero is a big deal because like the costume is
Speaker 1: enough to keep him at bay for a little. The trailer, sorry,
Speaker 1: the credits for the opening credits for nineteen seventy eight
Speaker 1: Superman are you know, conservatively about sixteen minutes long of
Speaker 1: just names like zooming through space. And they were like,
Speaker 1: this is taking so long, but we didn't fast forward it.
Speaker 1: And then it opens on Krypton with like Marlon Brando
Speaker 1: walking around talking about you know, climate change and like
Speaker 1: you know, sentencing somebody to a scary phantom zone. They
Speaker 1: sat through it all, so I think we might be
Speaker 1: we might just coast off of costumes and uh, you know, whenever,
Speaker 1: whenever I hear that music, Pampampa Papa bamp bap bapa,
Speaker 1: because that was the theme to Superman too. That was
Speaker 1: an usher at the movie theater when we played that movie.
Speaker 1: And every time I hear that music now, I think
Speaker 1: I gotta go open the doors. Yea, it's overall true.
Speaker 1: Stop playing asteroids. Also, I thought I appreciated how confusing
Speaker 1: the part is where Superman turns turns back time by
Speaker 1: flying backwards around the globe to reverse the spin of
Speaker 1: the earth and and the other way to like get
Speaker 1: it going again, to like turn back time. And then
Speaker 1: I had to explain it to a five year old. Well,
Speaker 1: the the thing you have to understand is, you know,
Speaker 1: pull out the old turntable. There's no movie, there's no story. Yeah,
Speaker 1: exactly right, Like we have to we have to suspend
Speaker 1: our disbelief over this ship point. This is what what
Speaker 1: happens when Superman cries, he changes the rotation of the Earth.
Speaker 1: All right. Well, you can find me on Twitter at
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