Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to thirty damn,
Speaker 1: Episode five of The Daily Zeitgeist, a production of My
Speaker 1: Heart Radio. It's the podcast where we take a deep
Speaker 1: fucking dies into America's shared consciousness. It's Friday, April first.
Speaker 1: What you all know is National by a Person of
Speaker 1: Color Ferrari Day, And if you're a person of color
Speaker 1: or part of any press group, you can go to
Speaker 1: a Ferrari dealership. They have to give you a car
Speaker 1: or that may have been in April Fools thing. I
Speaker 1: don't know, but I believe it and I want to
Speaker 1: believe that that's where country is headed. It's also April
Speaker 1: Fool's Day. Obviously, I don't know what kind of shenanigans
Speaker 1: have cropped up yet, but we'll be talking about something
Speaker 1: that actually isn't an April Fools joke. But before that,
Speaker 1: let me introduce myself. My name is Miles Gray a
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Speaker 1: that yogurt, losting on that yogurt, These and testines yogurt,
Speaker 1: my digestion yogurt, this body yogurt, my rock yogurt asadferless asaddfless. Okay,
Speaker 1: shout out to Josiah Josiah on the discord because yes,
Speaker 1: my dad had me drinking so much asidoples as a
Speaker 1: kid to help my digestion, you know. And me and
Speaker 1: Bary Sunday Thurston, we were commiserating over that sharity experience.
Speaker 1: And I am really to introduce my co host with
Speaker 1: the mo host, the brilliant and talented, hilarious the brother
Speaker 1: from Chicago. Please welcome. Jock keis new here. It is
Speaker 1: the site case slightly transphoned, just a bit of a
Speaker 1: break from the norm, just a little slap to break
Speaker 1: with a face beat of all the hardcore jokes that
Speaker 1: has gotten to be a little bit out of control.
Speaker 1: It's cool to laugh, but what about when your wife
Speaker 1: don't want to get you know as give me yourself
Speaker 1: a little mix and if it ain't Jack Kieths, please
Speaker 1: try to fix it. What up? Niggays? Are we happy?
Speaker 1: The week is over? The Will Smith jokes are done.
Speaker 1: It's over. That's it, that's it, just just a week
Speaker 1: of them. Oh hello, everybody, that was time, slappy, slappy,
Speaker 1: slappy time. Just put my wrist back and on wine face. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: Will Smith is smart. He would make, he would he
Speaker 1: would make. You know Will Smith got a writer's room
Speaker 1: for his U Instagram. Oh yeah, my man should like
Speaker 1: just be like man fun I did it. My boy
Speaker 1: does a lot of the production on those video, especially
Speaker 1: like the super sort of editing heavy ones. I'm gonna hit,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna put. I'm gonna say your name, Mike,
Speaker 1: but Mike, come on hanging come on the low hanging fruit.
Speaker 1: All right, that's always been a week, been a week today.
Speaker 1: We have a fantastic guests. See sometimes you get these
Speaker 1: guests in where they actually they're doing ship. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean? This person is, you know, written for
Speaker 1: The Guardian. I heard of that. Maybe you're seeing some
Speaker 1: of their fantastic documentary work on a J plus. I
Speaker 1: know I have, and I know I just educated myself
Speaker 1: just by watching two videos, and I feel like I
Speaker 1: don't have to go to college. Uh. Not only is
Speaker 1: this person a fantastic journalist, documentarian, filmmaker, producer, editor, I
Speaker 1: mean they wear all the hats. It's also a three
Speaker 1: time Beard Foundation nominees. For somebody like me who loves food.
Speaker 1: I can't that doesn't I can't think of something that
Speaker 1: excites me more than to speak to somebody with a
Speaker 1: Beard Foundation nomination, also Emmy nominations, also Webby Awards. Please
Speaker 1: welcome to the for the first time, Arrol Joy. That
Speaker 1: was very kind of I don't know what the digital
Speaker 1: version of blushing is. How are you are? I'm good,
Speaker 1: lovely to beer with you two? Okay, tell me about Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna jump into it because I saw you
Speaker 1: your your Twitter bio when it said three time Beard
Speaker 1: Foundation nominee. What okay, what's going on? Tell me? Because
Speaker 1: I know you you do you love food that intersect
Speaker 1: with a lot of the work you do at a
Speaker 1: j plus. But can you just tell me a little
Speaker 1: bit about your very good beard. You got a good
Speaker 1: fizzle job, nice good beer. He's not going to find dining.
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, that would be a beard five days.
Speaker 1: I think I've got to shave it. I'm very much
Speaker 1: into the clean shaven things. So this will go away
Speaker 1: and they'll come back next week. Six daytes Foundation nomination
Speaker 1: exactly double on time. No, So yeah, So I mean
Speaker 1: where should I start with that? We had never really
Speaker 1: submitted to the James Beard Media found James Beard Foundation
Speaker 1: Media Awards and I think we launched our show about
Speaker 1: four years ago. It's called Eat This with Yarra. It
Speaker 1: was originally called In Real Life, and we rebranded very
Speaker 1: quickly because the food focus just start to become so
Speaker 1: much more apparent in terms of our interests, in terms
Speaker 1: of direction things were going. And we made an episode
Speaker 1: about basically, why don't we have Native American restaurants on
Speaker 1: every street corner in the United States. It's the original
Speaker 1: food of the land that we today called America or
Speaker 1: the United States and what have you, And yet there
Speaker 1: there aren't that many Native American branded at least restaurants.
Speaker 1: You know, there obviously are indigenous ingredients and all the
Speaker 1: foods you know from Mexican cuisine and so on and
Speaker 1: so forth. But yeah, so we basically were like, what's
Speaker 1: the deal with this? And we looked into it. We
Speaker 1: we interviewed various indigenous chefs uh in the Southwest specifically,
Speaker 1: and then went up to Colorado and through that story
Speaker 1: by featuring kind of these chefs within the indigenous community,
Speaker 1: we then kind of shifted gears to be like, all right,
Speaker 1: so now you've seen what you know, Native American cuisine
Speaker 1: can look like in the year eighteen, which is when
Speaker 1: we release this. But why don't we have Let's go
Speaker 1: back to the original question, why don't we have them
Speaker 1: in every street corner? And then you know, frankly, we
Speaker 1: shift gears and go straight into I mean, it comes
Speaker 1: down to a couple of things, but genocide and you know,
Speaker 1: wiping off these the native peoples of this land, you know,
Speaker 1: through colonization as more and more European colonists came to
Speaker 1: this place. That was the reason. So the documentary shifts gears.
Speaker 1: It's very fun and lighthearted, showing off amazing and magazine
Speaker 1: shifts to that history and even parts of the history
Speaker 1: that aren't really talked about in our textbooks. Like we
Speaker 1: all heard about the Trail of Tears, right, that's something
Speaker 1: that comes up in the you know, middle school or whenever,
Speaker 1: elementary school. But there's also another there's so many versions
Speaker 1: of that that have happened that we don't hear about,
Speaker 1: such as the long Walk, which the Navajo community experienced, right,
Speaker 1: and this is just replicated across the country, you know,
Speaker 1: folks being dispossessed of their land. So yeah, that's kind
Speaker 1: of that we put it out there. It was the
Speaker 1: longest thing I've ever made was like twenty minutes, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean my colleagues, uh and uh, then we like
Speaker 1: submitted to the James Beard Foundation. We're like, well, this
Speaker 1: is about food history and all these things, and you
Speaker 1: know we were very pleasantly surprised too when that nomination.
Speaker 1: Then you know, we went on and on and that
Speaker 1: kind of became the theme of the show, Food and
Speaker 1: Social Justice, food and science, food and environment. And you
Speaker 1: do it really well. I mean, because like you're saying,
Speaker 1: you there's so many things we're like, well, why is it? Well,
Speaker 1: what's what's why? Why isn't this thing happening? And it's
Speaker 1: almost like and the answer is the sordid history of
Speaker 1: the United States, like every time. Uh. And we'll talk
Speaker 1: about actually a year latest video a little bit later on,
Speaker 1: because I think that's a really really interesting like there
Speaker 1: are just things I was even sort of thinking just
Speaker 1: from my own personal history as it relates to the
Speaker 1: latest video you put out, as it relates to foraging
Speaker 1: and no trespassing signs. So we'll talk about that. But yeah,
Speaker 1: let's tell some of the people. That's actually, let's tell
Speaker 1: all the people what we're gonna be talking about before
Speaker 1: we get to know you a little bit better. First,
Speaker 1: we just have to talk a little bit now, a
Speaker 1: lot maybe a lot of it about Madison Cathorn. We
Speaker 1: we kept touching on the sort of development of this
Speaker 1: story throughout the week, like he was saying he was
Speaker 1: going he got invited to cocaine, sex orgies and ship
Speaker 1: and all the Republicans are like, okay, who say, come
Speaker 1: out with the names or this is all nonsense. That
Speaker 1: story has been evolving to the point where now he
Speaker 1: he may lose his congressional seat via primary challenge. We'll
Speaker 1: get into that. We'll talk about Biden is, you know,
Speaker 1: transitioning away from immigrant detention facilities to now more just
Speaker 1: surveillance devices that are almost essentially like light torture devices.
Speaker 1: So we'll look at that. I guess policy shift if
Speaker 1: I don't know what they're calling it. But yeah, we'll
Speaker 1: take a look at that. We'll talk again, like I said,
Speaker 1: y'are your latest documentary about no trespassing, We'll talk about
Speaker 1: the origins of no trespassing signs spoiler alert. I think
Speaker 1: you already know what we're gonna say, because fucking racism. Uh,
Speaker 1: And then we'll talk you know, I feel like this week,
Speaker 1: we've seen a few tech things that we just bring up.
Speaker 1: We're like, what the fund is going on with all
Speaker 1: this technological ship. I don't understand well, Dyson the vacuum
Speaker 1: people have now made headphones that are also an air purifier,
Speaker 1: and um, it's it doesn't look like it's any does
Speaker 1: any type of good. So we'll talk about that. But first, Yarra,
Speaker 1: let us know something from your search history that reveals
Speaker 1: a little bit about who you are. So I believe
Speaker 1: your producer kind of prepped me for this, so I
Speaker 1: actually had to look through it and it's so funny.
Speaker 1: But we discover about ourselves when we do this. I
Speaker 1: got a couple of things for you guys. I'm going
Speaker 1: to run through a few of them. Okay, So weirdly,
Speaker 1: there's a classic Joanne the Scammer video from Welcome to
Speaker 1: My Caucasian Home, which which for whatever reason, came up
Speaker 1: at a conversation with friends over dinner and she's like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm one of my friends, like, I've never heard of that,
Speaker 1: and so I pulled up the video and just rewatched
Speaker 1: it for my own viewing pleasure. That was a lot
Speaker 1: of fun. Basically, she hides out in a in a
Speaker 1: white woman's home, pretends like the home is hers, and
Speaker 1: then the white woman re enters and anyways, it's just
Speaker 1: a funny who does who does this again? What color
Speaker 1: is this person? Joe the Scammer, Miller, He's like he's
Speaker 1: he's he's I think he's like bi racial. He's black. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think so. You've never seen him. He he's like
Speaker 1: the light skin, duty has like green eyes, and he
Speaker 1: would wear this like blond wig and he's like, come
Speaker 1: with me. He's like, this place is all Caucasian. It'll
Speaker 1: like go into stores and ship and with people and
Speaker 1: just act like this white woman. Wow. I honestly, you know,
Speaker 1: I feel like Joe and the Scammer is kind of
Speaker 1: the origin. Like without Joe and the Scammer, we don't
Speaker 1: get scam Goddess with Lazy because Joe and the Scammer
Speaker 1: was kind of putting scammer terminology like into the zeitgeist
Speaker 1: or just like the way this character was, I feel
Speaker 1: like kind of brought up our love for this, this
Speaker 1: this idea of scamming. So yeah, I love that he
Speaker 1: was saying in white people's houses and uh, it's so funny.
Speaker 1: He's oh he is actually he is Puerto Rican and black. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: so he so he he's brown enough to for this
Speaker 1: to have an element of danger. Well yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: it's not like full blown. It's not like like Jackass pranks,
Speaker 1: being like I'm gonna go into this way was home.
Speaker 1: It's just the vibe is always about as if you know,
Speaker 1: it's a comedic bit. Yeah, but it's super super funny.
Speaker 1: It's so funny. Yeah, he just goes in. He's like,
Speaker 1: look at these Malaysian tiles that I have. So funny.
Speaker 1: Let me open my fridge. Oh, there's this pelle pell
Speaker 1: peller green. It's kind of like, I don't know, going
Speaker 1: through Yoka match. I feel like the there was I
Speaker 1: think there was a cameo in a Tyler Perry movie
Speaker 1: and that was like the heights of it that it
Speaker 1: reached for that character. But come on now, bro, I'm black.
Speaker 1: Oh watch Skylot Perry movies. I mean when I said family,
Speaker 1: you know like I can't. Did you ever see a
Speaker 1: Tyler Perry movie in the theater? Hell no? The one
Speaker 1: I saw was what the fun was that maybe the
Speaker 1: second or third one. I went with my grandparents because
Speaker 1: they were like they were being like, we went to
Speaker 1: the Tyler Perry play. I've been to Tyler Perry play before.
Speaker 1: I've been to Perry play, and then my grandparents. I'm joking, everybody, Praise,
Speaker 1: praise be the King Perry. All right, the k what
Speaker 1: else you got in here? So let's see. I came
Speaker 1: across there was a Reddit thread of about Russians who
Speaker 1: were eating expired military rations, and they were like comparing
Speaker 1: this to the Ukrainian military rations, which were much better,
Speaker 1: much fresher, more nutritious, and more delicious, and the rest.
Speaker 1: Like a YouTuber or one I had like a Ukrainian
Speaker 1: ration and I was like, oh my god, there's apricot
Speaker 1: in here. Look at this delicious stew, and then the
Speaker 1: Russian ones who just meanwhile expired and very tasty. Let's
Speaker 1: see you go through dining chair. I only I'm trying
Speaker 1: to find some dining chair, you know, tiny chairs for
Speaker 1: a table. I just got Facebook marketplace. What makes a
Speaker 1: good dining chair, you know? I'm I'm looking for one
Speaker 1: that's like eighteen inches high. Because I sat at the table.
Speaker 1: The tables a little bit higher, so that's kind of
Speaker 1: the thing I don't want to be reaching up for
Speaker 1: the table. Yeah, that's kind of my main metric. Yeah,
Speaker 1: do you need backs? There's back support important armrests. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: back support would be good. Yeah, back support is the
Speaker 1: only thing I'm I need armrests, Like, I don't mind
Speaker 1: the ones I'm looking at don't have armrests. So that's
Speaker 1: kind of a more mundane one. Then. Also, the Airbus
Speaker 1: A three eight apparently is now partly they just ran
Speaker 1: a test. Uh they can now fly with this airplane
Speaker 1: with cooking oil partly not entirely, but they used to
Speaker 1: cooking oil. Yeah, it's crazy, and that's kind of the future,
Speaker 1: right sustainability. Right, so they're working to make it a
Speaker 1: hundred percent cooking oil and think that will happen in
Speaker 1: the next ten years, like you know, like like the
Speaker 1: ship like we were talking about like in the early
Speaker 1: like this, this van's powered by fry like French fry
Speaker 1: oil basically like that basically the same kind of like
Speaker 1: waits a similar thing. Yeah, that was a fascinating yet,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I'm gonna have to if they start doing this,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to start asking before I fly, So
Speaker 1: what gas offline with I would? Uh, you know, can
Speaker 1: I get planes real quick? Are you saying you don't
Speaker 1: touch the fry oil plane? I don't trust Now I'm
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna need a few years of flight before
Speaker 1: I trust to fry. It works, man, it works, and
Speaker 1: it smells great. Actually that's how they're gonna give people
Speaker 1: and like, come on that we cook some chicken in
Speaker 1: this earlier you know, you won't even get on this,
Speaker 1: like thinking about that, like the seven thirty seven Max
Speaker 1: eight and the flights that you know, you know, the
Speaker 1: mishaps that happened with that's kind of thinking how they
Speaker 1: started to list it next to the information when you
Speaker 1: were laying just like you know, it's like it's not
Speaker 1: the one that had the funked up sensor that was
Speaker 1: making the law nose like it's it's it's the better one.
Speaker 1: That's interesting too, because like part of me, you know,
Speaker 1: as we see the price of oil and gas go up,
Speaker 1: that we're like you're seeing so many different takes of
Speaker 1: people being like, see, this is why the funk we
Speaker 1: need electric cars and hybrids and ship because not only
Speaker 1: is it doesn't mean we're cutting down on emissions, but
Speaker 1: it means greater national security or less you know, resource
Speaker 1: based conflict, and I like that. I guess maybe just
Speaker 1: kind of the pure need of capitalism. They're like, fund man,
Speaker 1: this Jeff fuel is fucking too much, Like is there
Speaker 1: some ship we can cut this? Yeah, so if we
Speaker 1: get there, fuck it, so be it. But I'm just
Speaker 1: thinking like people going to the grocery store and being like,
Speaker 1: I guess that just airplane fuel. Slashing oil, hold on
Speaker 1: and put like a sticker on it. It's a doubles
Speaker 1: as airplane fuel. Yeah, they're like, Okay, Mossola, see you
Speaker 1: out here. You start seeing that on the side of
Speaker 1: a Formula one racing car, It's like Mozzola, like, it's
Speaker 1: like all these cooking oils are now the fuel sponsor. Honestly,
Speaker 1: it sounds more like a fuel company than it does
Speaker 1: like a cooking oil. That's true, Mozzola, I would believe
Speaker 1: yea Hey, easy transition for y'all, you know, just to
Speaker 1: go to petrol products. Um, what's something you think is overrated? Okay,
Speaker 1: so this had to think about overrated. There's a couple
Speaker 1: of things. I don't know if I'm gonna get hate here.
Speaker 1: I think shake shack is overrated, okay, An, I mean
Speaker 1: this is I'm just saying, go ahead and say it
Speaker 1: because people people a lot of couple times, come onn't
Speaker 1: knows the hot take man in and out sucks and
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I mean fine, I eat it, but
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I've lost the energy to defend it
Speaker 1: with tell me specific because shake Shack for us in
Speaker 1: l A. I was like, oh ship, yeah Shack, and
Speaker 1: I was working with it. I remember that first week.
Speaker 1: I had it like three times the first week. And
Speaker 1: then it's like when I'm around, sure, I'll get it,
Speaker 1: but what is what's the perspective from you because you
Speaker 1: live in New York? Right? Yeah? Yeah, I live in
Speaker 1: New York. I'm from California. I do prefer in and
Speaker 1: out when that question comes up. I like their fries.
Speaker 1: I don't care if they're not as crispy or whatever anyways,
Speaker 1: but shake Shack, I just feel like they're burgers are
Speaker 1: kind of dry and like giving all the fuss about them.
Speaker 1: It's oh my god, there's a shake Shack opening up,
Speaker 1: and you know it's it doesn't really Yeah, the burgers
Speaker 1: just kind of dry. It's not juicy. I'm much preferring
Speaker 1: and out. It's like it's more moist, it's more tender.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they cook it a little bit
Speaker 1: like less or pats. So that's kind of the thing
Speaker 1: because I normally find shake Shack burgers to be greasy,
Speaker 1: not so much not like moist as in a nice
Speaker 1: moistburger on the inside, because it isn't like the what
Speaker 1: what's the ship that goes the bun? I couldn't think
Speaker 1: of the word bun, the bun that goes, Yeah, it'd
Speaker 1: be I'd be feeling it. But so that's what I
Speaker 1: get from shake Shack. So it's interesting that you find
Speaker 1: them to be a little more dry maybe maybe New York. Uh.
Speaker 1: I see the greasiness, and I think the dryness also
Speaker 1: comes from like they purposely smash it and that gets
Speaker 1: that like browning of the meat, which creates a lot
Speaker 1: of flavor, but all you a lot of juice, I think, Yeah,
Speaker 1: exactly exactly. So yeah, two different things. Juice and Greece
Speaker 1: are not the same, you know, no, exactly. And that's
Speaker 1: the problem we have in this country is that we
Speaker 1: are mistaking juice for grease. Yeah, you know, that's what
Speaker 1: I keep saying. Although I will say from shake Shack,
Speaker 1: I like shake shack is okay, but I will say
Speaker 1: the uh like, I don't love it. It's okay, It's
Speaker 1: just it's whatever. It's a burger. It's expensive. I can
Speaker 1: go get a double double for like four dollars cheaper.
Speaker 1: But but I do love them. I do love the cheese,
Speaker 1: crinkle cut fries. Those hit the animal style, though, are
Speaker 1: better than animals. I'm like, oh, I don't like you know,
Speaker 1: I don't like animals style. People don't like in and
Speaker 1: out fries yard, I'm with you. I get that. I
Speaker 1: purposefully order them soft. I asked for light fries. I said,
Speaker 1: let me get light fries. They're like, oh shit, you really,
Speaker 1: you really got nobody in your corner. But what's the
Speaker 1: best burger in New York? Would you say? Oh, okay,
Speaker 1: funny you should ask. I'm not. I don't know. This
Speaker 1: is so funny that because just a few months ago
Speaker 1: I went for the first time. There's a place called
Speaker 1: Seventh Street Burger. It's in the East Village. It is
Speaker 1: the most simple thing. It's just meat, diced onions. I
Speaker 1: think there's a pickle, a slice of cheese. I don't
Speaker 1: think they put anything else in their buns are perfectly
Speaker 1: soft and supple, and they are tender. They have the
Speaker 1: browning going on the shake Jack has without the loss
Speaker 1: of juice and tender. It's just like Holy Ship. It's
Speaker 1: so simple. It's a bunch of like college kids there
Speaker 1: late night, you know, folks. It's not like a sit
Speaker 1: down place. You grab your burger, you go. It's cheap,
Speaker 1: it's affordable, it's delicious, and it's been written. I think
Speaker 1: one of the Bella Bella headed headed one of them
Speaker 1: went to it and then it got, you know, some
Speaker 1: notoriety after that. So amazing place, cheap, delicious, highly recommend. Okay,
Speaker 1: what is something that you think is underrated? Okay, so
Speaker 1: I had a couple more overrated ones, but for the
Speaker 1: underrated one, let me see if I can get a
Speaker 1: good controversial one in here. I'm gonna stick to the
Speaker 1: topic of food, I think. Okay, so maybe this requires
Speaker 1: a little bit of breathface. So I'm gonna say that
Speaker 1: Fusion food is underrated. And the reason I'm saying that
Speaker 1: it's because in a lot of like I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm going to get a ton of hate for this,
Speaker 1: but I feel like a lot of cooks that I know,
Speaker 1: chefs that I know. I hate the word fusion. I
Speaker 1: was just at a place with a buddy of mine
Speaker 1: a few weeks ago, and then one of the restaurant
Speaker 1: owner came out to talk to us, and then they're like, oh, no,
Speaker 1: I hate that word. Don't call it fusion. Don't It's disgusting.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, you know, okay, fine, you don't want
Speaker 1: to use the infusion, Let's call it creative mixing, amalgamation,
Speaker 1: I don't know, creative cooking, whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 1: When two cuisines come together. When you put me so
Speaker 1: paste in your French beef organ yon, but that tastes amazing,
Speaker 1: So that's Japanese French. Who who cares? And you don't
Speaker 1: want to call fusion. You call it whatever, your libertiza,
Speaker 1: biracial food. Yeah, I like that. Yeah, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: think of fusion foods that I that I like. Because
Speaker 1: I don't know Miles you, I mean, you both from California,
Speaker 1: both from California, and I'm even thinking about going back
Speaker 1: to Chicago. I feel like the word fusion or the
Speaker 1: tag fusion doesn't get thrown on as many restaurants that
Speaker 1: are fusion type restaurants like you get a lot of
Speaker 1: Asian fusion restaurants, you know, but yeah, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: think of something that I can readily remember. A yeah,
Speaker 1: like you know, Korean tacos are thing, okay, okay, all
Speaker 1: roy everything really cholis doing Yeah, I love it. All
Speaker 1: that's great, I mean, and there's what's just so many
Speaker 1: I mean in general, it's all food isn't bound to
Speaker 1: become fusion anyway, right because you can't. You can't fucking
Speaker 1: silo these cuisines. Looks like you can't silo music. Like
Speaker 1: all music. Now you look at every artist, some artists
Speaker 1: is doing some version of unless you're doing like folkloric
Speaker 1: fucking music, you're already inherently going to be dabbling with
Speaker 1: other styles and ship like that, and it's only to
Speaker 1: our benefits. So like I get that the because the
Speaker 1: tag feels very like nineties eighties, like this is wolo,
Speaker 1: This like French fusion at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: Like you look even look at someone like the cool
Speaker 1: uh like black restaurants that are in l A. They're
Speaker 1: they're they're they're sort of doing a upscale version of
Speaker 1: soul food with like elevated techniques are cooking and that's
Speaker 1: already fusion, but we're still calling it soul food. But
Speaker 1: we're just saying it's new soul whatever. And you know,
Speaker 1: look around everybody, we see it all around us, everything
Speaker 1: using so many things. Yeah, it's crazy. I mean, like
Speaker 1: that a thing about like even if you look at
Speaker 1: like you know where ingredients travel and come from. Uh,
Speaker 1: even if I can, like, you know, refer back to
Speaker 1: our native American cuisine, doc, like I learned from that
Speaker 1: as well as through the book, you know, guns, germs
Speaker 1: and steel like that. A lot of the ingredients we
Speaker 1: might see an Italian food other places, chili's, tomatoes, chilies, potatoes, beans, corn, squash,
Speaker 1: all these things originate in the America's uh North and
Speaker 1: South America, right, And so now it travels to Italy,
Speaker 1: the tomato and they start using it. No one bats
Speaker 1: and I right, it's like, oh yeah, marian arisace Italian, spaghetti,
Speaker 1: meatballs Italian. But that is a fusion food and the
Speaker 1: noodles are from China, so like that's not even really
Speaker 1: like what so that fusion is okay because a couple
Speaker 1: hundred years have past, but the other fusions are not okay, right, right,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Peanut butter and jelli is a fusion.
Speaker 1: We're peanut butter from that's America, right right? Would you
Speaker 1: put ranch on pizzas? You know what I mean? Wal
Speaker 1: Green sushi? Yeah, I mean that aination. Yeah, that's that's
Speaker 1: a different type of fusion. Probably my Japanese side will
Speaker 1: not allow me to view such a such a terrible,
Speaker 1: terrible transgression of our culture. But you know, everything's fusion, baby,
Speaker 1: you know, we gotta let it cook because you know,
Speaker 1: shout out to people like our good friend Jamie Loftus
Speaker 1: who would love nothing more than some gas station sushi.
Speaker 1: So take their own. All right, let's take a quick
Speaker 1: break and then we'll be right back to talk some news.
Speaker 1: And we're back, and let's check in with Madison Coforn,
Speaker 1: the Republican from North Carolina. Mr. Young Fashion Handsome has
Speaker 1: been one of the more visible bo Republicans recently, you know,
Speaker 1: especially as he's you know, he's he stays with the
Speaker 1: bigoted takes, and then more recently, you know, he came
Speaker 1: in with the very odd pro putin take, being like
Speaker 1: man a lot of mirs a lisk, he's a thunk man.
Speaker 1: What the fund is that guy thinking and people like,
Speaker 1: what the funk? Where are you getting your where? Who
Speaker 1: are you? And he's to the point where sometimes other
Speaker 1: Republicans like, yo, young man, you need to slow down,
Speaker 1: which is very rare you hear that from other Republicans. Well,
Speaker 1: his love of a good story and having the spotlight
Speaker 1: on him maybe causing his you know, his status as
Speaker 1: a congress person. It might be putting that at risk.
Speaker 1: Because at the end of last week we talked about this,
Speaker 1: Cawthorne went on some podcast decked out in some Christian
Speaker 1: Soldier brand apparel that he's like fucking caping for looking
Speaker 1: real cool, And when he was asked if working in
Speaker 1: Congress is anything like House of Cards, he gave a
Speaker 1: real wild answer that, you know, a lot of people
Speaker 1: began reporting on and everything else is go Aside from that,
Speaker 1: I mean the sexual perversion that goes on in Washington.
Speaker 1: I mean being kind of a young guy in Washington
Speaker 1: with the average as is probably six year seventy. And
Speaker 1: I look at all these people, a lot of them
Speaker 1: that I you know, I've looked up tooth in my life.
Speaker 1: I always paid attention to politics, guys that you know.
Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden you get invited to like, well, hey,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have kind of a sexual get together at
Speaker 1: one of our homes. You should come. They're like what what?
Speaker 1: What did you just ask me to come to? And
Speaker 1: then you realize you're asking you to come to an
Speaker 1: orgy or the fact that you know, there's some of
Speaker 1: the people that are leading on the movement to try
Speaker 1: and remove you know, addiction in our country, and then
Speaker 1: you watch them doing, you know, keep up a cocaine
Speaker 1: right in front of you. Okay, so when you saw that,
Speaker 1: When I saw the headlines, I said, what is wrong
Speaker 1: with this man? Then I see the video and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's lying. He's just lying, Like you know, this is
Speaker 1: not real. He's the whole thing is like, yeah, next
Speaker 1: you know, you're gonna just saying like come to the
Speaker 1: sexual get together at my house? Who's having an origin
Speaker 1: and calling it a sexual get together? But again that's
Speaker 1: you know, everybody's in their own life. So he went
Speaker 1: on to say this chest out this naturally caused a
Speaker 1: lot of confusion within the party and in the news
Speaker 1: proople like what, well, many others, I'd say, naturally, just
Speaker 1: look at the legal troubles of people like Matt Gates,
Speaker 1: and they're like, oh, okay, Like I see the potential
Speaker 1: for this because it's not like we've never heard of
Speaker 1: sex or drug scandals in Congress at all. But the
Speaker 1: Republicans meanwhile, we're fucking livid because his comments seemed to
Speaker 1: imply that he is talking about his fellow Republicans. He's like, people,
Speaker 1: I look up to man, and then they're you, don't
Speaker 1: you think a Democrat is going to be like, hey
Speaker 1: Man Madison on, don't you come through to our funk
Speaker 1: party later. That's again, that's even harder to believe than
Speaker 1: any of this ship. So they're like, who are you
Speaker 1: talking about? Who are you trying to say? In the
Speaker 1: party is having the these like orgies and doing key
Speaker 1: bumps and ship and it caused all these fucking problems that,
Speaker 1: as we talked about in a previous Trending episode, minority
Speaker 1: leader Kevin McCarthy basically snatched him by the neck and said, Yo,
Speaker 1: what the are you talking about? Like this is terrible.
Speaker 1: You're you're clearly showing that you are probably not ready
Speaker 1: to even be in Congress because of the way you're behaving.
Speaker 1: And this is like the really funny part right, McCarthy.
Speaker 1: So a reporter was talking to Kevin McCarthy and they said, hey,
Speaker 1: did he ever tell you about like who he saw?
Speaker 1: And McCarthy says, when when asked if like he could
Speaker 1: name people, car Thor un quote, thinks he saw maybe
Speaker 1: a staffer in a parking garage, maybe a hundred yards away,
Speaker 1: and that he doesn't know what it was. That is
Speaker 1: everything he was hinging his story on was that he
Speaker 1: saw somebody from a hundred yards away in a parking garage.
Speaker 1: We just talked about off Mike going to a concert.
Speaker 1: I've seen Beyonce from a hundred yards away. I could
Speaker 1: barely tell it was her except for the warming glow
Speaker 1: that was emanating from her body. But other than that,
Speaker 1: I it's so different. How who has that kind of
Speaker 1: eagle eide vision. You know, the funny thing about this is,
Speaker 1: I don't know why Republicans are funny man. I don't
Speaker 1: necessarily know why he would lie about this, but outside
Speaker 1: of him just being stupid because he's young and he
Speaker 1: feels like, oh, this is what young people lie about, right,
Speaker 1: Lione has just come second nature to him. But you know,
Speaker 1: the funny thing is a lot of sex and drugs
Speaker 1: go on in Congress, even with these Republicans, but they'd
Speaker 1: probably just be like, yo, but shut the funk up.
Speaker 1: And if you don't say something, don't lie about don't
Speaker 1: lie Like there's a lot of truth you can say,
Speaker 1: like don't don't tell a lie about it. Evan Hurst
Speaker 1: at one cat kind of pointed out an interesting thing, right,
Speaker 1: because he's like a self styled evangelical, and you know
Speaker 1: in these circles, right, you can you can give your testimony,
Speaker 1: right you talk about how you were saved, like at church,
Speaker 1: you talk to other people at church and you give
Speaker 1: your testament about this is this is how bad my
Speaker 1: life was till I was saved by Christ. Or you
Speaker 1: talk about how you're able to resist things and only
Speaker 1: through the power and the strength of salvation was I
Speaker 1: able to say no to these you know, satanic temptations.
Speaker 1: And he was sort of speculating, He's like this also
Speaker 1: sounds like this. He's going around other people in the
Speaker 1: evangelical world and kind of trying to like pump up
Speaker 1: his ship. He's like, man, look at the ship I'm around,
Speaker 1: and I'm still resisting because the strength I derived from Christ.
Speaker 1: Uh So there is there there are elements of that
Speaker 1: to it as well. But this is the thing that
Speaker 1: really bugs me. Right, So Kevin McCarthy, he's trying to
Speaker 1: get on his high horse and he's saying things like, well,
Speaker 1: this is unacceptable. There's no evidence to this. He changes
Speaker 1: what he tells and that's not becoming of a congressman.
Speaker 1: He did not tell the truth. That's unacceptable. Now what
Speaker 1: is that. This is the thing that really blowed in
Speaker 1: my mind is they are getting more bent out of
Speaker 1: shape for his like freshman year liar act than all
Speaker 1: of the racist murderer type ship that other people in
Speaker 1: the party are saying. And it's just wild to see
Speaker 1: all this energy be like, I can't believe he's lying
Speaker 1: about this stuff. Lying is not who we are as
Speaker 1: Republicans in continent. Mm hmm. Well, you know that's because
Speaker 1: the racist ship they want their base two. You know
Speaker 1: know that, hey, under the undertones of this is here beginning,
Speaker 1: Your dick is something they don't want their base to
Speaker 1: know about. They want their base to think that dick
Speaker 1: stay dry. You know that's what they want because they
Speaker 1: want everybody everyone's chased, right, and everybody still fits into
Speaker 1: this idea of the yeah, this evangelical, pure person. But
Speaker 1: I don't know it just it's the other thing about
Speaker 1: it is just so transparently feels like when you look
Speaker 1: at that clip that he does also he does feel
Speaker 1: like some dude that's lying, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I feel like we've all experienced people like this in
Speaker 1: our lives or they're like, yo, what was it like?
Speaker 1: What was it like over there? Let me tell you? Okay,
Speaker 1: and then you're like, man, you're lying. This is true.
Speaker 1: That's that had big liar energy. I don't know, what
Speaker 1: do you think this energetic? Do you think this was cool?
Speaker 1: What do you think would would would this make Republicans
Speaker 1: more cool to you? If they was having drug and
Speaker 1: orgy party? I mean, I think the Jackies point. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think there's an image that Republicans want to project
Speaker 1: to their base, and exactly like you said, like this,
Speaker 1: this image is very much like there's no drugs, we
Speaker 1: don't have sex, we are you know, maybe perhaps you
Speaker 1: saw Trump even holding up the Bible right right outside,
Speaker 1: and I don't think I don't think that that family
Speaker 1: is particularly pious, So so there's very much it's very
Speaker 1: much an image game. So when you see a lot
Speaker 1: of Republicans, they think Marjorie Taylor Green, Kevin McCarthy, they're
Speaker 1: all condemning. Oh my god, I can't believe he said this.
Speaker 1: Let's disown him. I think, you know, on the one hand, right,
Speaker 1: did he lie to you? Not like whatever whatever he saw,
Speaker 1: whether it was a hundred yards away, whether or not.
Speaker 1: The bigger thing I think this reveals to me is
Speaker 1: is you see the reaction from the rest of the party,
Speaker 1: and that to me is like, oh god, we we
Speaker 1: cannot be our our our image, the image that we
Speaker 1: are selling to people is being besmirched. Good God, let's
Speaker 1: let's eliminate this bruise from our beautiful Yeah, this perfect
Speaker 1: visits that we have that we show to the world
Speaker 1: when you're like, y'all are so transparently hateful, but your
Speaker 1: problem is y'all fuck and do blow? Okay? Uh. And
Speaker 1: also the key bump thing, a lot of people speculating,
Speaker 1: You're like, how are you going to use words like
Speaker 1: key bump? Yeah, and that's a very specific order, Madison.
Speaker 1: What where did you learn that? Because it was to
Speaker 1: the point where even I saw that. I think it
Speaker 1: was the Webster or Merrion Webster's dictionary. Twitter account was like,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of talk of key bumps, so please
Speaker 1: allow us to further illuminate. This was a couple of
Speaker 1: days ago. Yeah, I did a whole thread on sniff
Speaker 1: and cop off the fucking key. Okay, So anyway, that's
Speaker 1: where that lies. And now at this point, you know,
Speaker 1: you have other people in the party and like prominent
Speaker 1: North Carolina politicians who are now coming out to support
Speaker 1: his primary challenger to basically see like, now that's wrap.
Speaker 1: So you know, I guess he flew too close to
Speaker 1: the sun, Young Madison. Okay. I also want to just
Speaker 1: kind of put some attention on the Biden administration for
Speaker 1: a second. I know that I think as of Thursday,
Speaker 1: there's talk about right now with the Biden administration to
Speaker 1: shift in the policy on Title forty two, which is
Speaker 1: essentially saying that was the thing that the government was saying,
Speaker 1: like lad, because of COVID, you know, we can't really
Speaker 1: let people in even if you're seeking asylum. And then
Speaker 1: once the immigration laws begin to change, like okay, but
Speaker 1: if you're from Ukraine, that's all good. All you other
Speaker 1: brown people, I mean, you have to sit tight, and
Speaker 1: many people like this makes no sense, Like the title
Speaker 1: forty two doesn't even make sense at this point if
Speaker 1: you're making exceptions for what you're saying, like that Ukrainians
Speaker 1: are less likely to have what what is the logic here?
Speaker 1: So while all that's going on, there's also been some
Speaker 1: other things as it relates to immigration that have been
Speaker 1: bubbling in the back. And you know, there have been
Speaker 1: headlines saying, you know, Biden to stop holding undocumented families
Speaker 1: and detention centers or US to close or scale back
Speaker 1: doubled immigration detention centers. But in this budget proposal, right,
Speaker 1: he's actually taking back like twenty five per cent of
Speaker 1: the bed capacity at immigration detention facilities and just ending
Speaker 1: like a contract with a problematic operator of a detention facility.
Speaker 1: And you're just kind of like, oh, okay, so he's
Speaker 1: just like better than Trump, like because he's asking for less.
Speaker 1: What is the actual policy? And so if there's a replacement, right,
Speaker 1: and his replacement is electronic monitoring, which either means regular
Speaker 1: check ins via an app or an actual monitor like
Speaker 1: an ankle monitor that has to be worn. And right
Speaker 1: now there are more than two thousand people equipped with
Speaker 1: a monitoring device, which is more than double the number
Speaker 1: from last year, and you look at like who's running this.
Speaker 1: It's the same stinky cast of characters. B I Incorporated,
Speaker 1: who's a subsidiary of Geo Group, which is like a
Speaker 1: gigantic private prison company. This is kind of like their
Speaker 1: new thing, and they just got like another two billion
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago to keep running this program.
Speaker 1: And when you just sort of like look at how
Speaker 1: this all starts, right, b I Incorporated. They quite literally
Speaker 1: started as a cattle monitoring business, okay, that their technology
Speaker 1: was to track non human life forms, and that's this
Speaker 1: is the evolution that we're seeing now is to now say,
Speaker 1: you know what, let's put it on people where the
Speaker 1: statistics say people do come, they do check in when
Speaker 1: they need to to stay up to date with their
Speaker 1: immigration status. But let's add this like level of you know,
Speaker 1: fucking police saying so people feel safe even though it's
Speaker 1: absolutely not necessary. And you look at like what these
Speaker 1: what the actual experience is like, it's just really really
Speaker 1: fucking terrible. So, you know, again, not to just make
Speaker 1: someone feel like, hey, you gotta put this tag on
Speaker 1: you because you're illegal. Most of the people who have
Speaker 1: these monitors have to wear it for at least a year,
Speaker 1: and some have worn them from seven to ten years.
Speaker 1: And just to look at kind of the things that
Speaker 1: what happens the experience of wearing an ankle monitory, They
Speaker 1: like overheat. They've given people electric shocks which deprived them
Speaker 1: of sleep. The app that if you're lucky enough to
Speaker 1: use the app is super glitchy, and people miss check
Speaker 1: ins and things like that, and case managers have been told,
Speaker 1: you know, someone says, hey, I missed the check in
Speaker 1: and I actually really need to I need help leaving
Speaker 1: a situation I'm in because I'm in an abusive relationship,
Speaker 1: and like someone who is one of these case workers
Speaker 1: asked the management to be like, hey, is there a
Speaker 1: way that we can help this person. They were allegedly
Speaker 1: told you're supposed to be hard on these people, like don't, don't,
Speaker 1: don't suddenly have empathy and story, sorry, I saw, I saw,
Speaker 1: I saw a story today. And that's what this reminds
Speaker 1: me of is somebody who was on house arrest right now.
Speaker 1: I got a call at am for a check in
Speaker 1: and if like he wouldn't have picked up, he said,
Speaker 1: he would have technically missed his check in and could
Speaker 1: have you know, got in trouble and violation. That's a
Speaker 1: violation right to am he's sleeping, that's so fucking that's
Speaker 1: that's sleep time. And it just makes me think they
Speaker 1: do this type of ship and it feels like they
Speaker 1: do this in hopes of how can we make this
Speaker 1: as inconvenient and as uncomfortable as possible. So if you know,
Speaker 1: people get violations, it is much easier just to be like, hey,
Speaker 1: you violated, you gotta go, or you violate it like
Speaker 1: punishment punishment as opposed to working with people deck you
Speaker 1: want to stack the deck against these people. That against
Speaker 1: people is terrible. You do you look at even the
Speaker 1: experience of the people who have to have be you know, surveilled,
Speaker 1: of surveilled people like immigrants that like, according to this poll,
Speaker 1: had mental health issues, trouble sleeping, migraines, and depression and
Speaker 1: twelve had you know, ideation around self harm because of
Speaker 1: just the humanizing experience of being monitored and having to
Speaker 1: wear this ankle monitor. And also you know, it hampers
Speaker 1: their ability to even work. You know, employers are reluctant
Speaker 1: to hire someone who have like a beeping ankle monitor
Speaker 1: like other people. If you're like in a workplace and
Speaker 1: people are like sort of have an innate just being like, yo,
Speaker 1: it's immigration going to come through because you've got this
Speaker 1: ankle monitor on, like I don't want you work in here,
Speaker 1: or like just treating people hostile because of it. It's
Speaker 1: just become a really huge problem. And it's not just here.
Speaker 1: It's happening in Canada. That's also in the UK uh
Speaker 1: And it's just something really, you know it. We see
Speaker 1: a lot of like articles that are like oh wow,
Speaker 1: like look at this humane shift, but like, deep down,
Speaker 1: we're just looking at other ways that are making someone's
Speaker 1: you know, already terrible experience trying to escape the living
Speaker 1: situation of their one country even worse by just trying
Speaker 1: to find some peace when you seek asylum. So keep
Speaker 1: your eyes peeled for that. Let's let's take a quick
Speaker 1: break and we'll come right back to talk about foraging
Speaker 1: and trespassing signs. And we're back. And before I threw
Speaker 1: the break, I mean I complete Yard had the best
Speaker 1: transition out of that human monitoring piece into his latest
Speaker 1: piece on a J Plus about foraging like urban foraging
Speaker 1: and no trespassing signs. And I'll allow you to do
Speaker 1: still is that pivots still valid. Yeah, we can pivot.
Speaker 1: I mean it's gonna pivot a little bit into the documentary.
Speaker 1: But miles to the point that you just brought up, right,
Speaker 1: it's like they're making it so easy to quote unquote
Speaker 1: violate the rules with these ankle bracelets. Right. It reminds
Speaker 1: me basically the history that that's presented in our documentary too.
Speaker 1: After the Civil War, after the end of enslavement. Uh,
Speaker 1: there was a moment in time aside from the trustpassing stuff,
Speaker 1: which I'll get to, but there were a series of
Speaker 1: laws passed in the South called black codes and bay
Speaker 1: basically one of these, one of the many codes was
Speaker 1: like there's a number of things that required of newly
Speaker 1: free black Americans to do. For example, it's really really
Speaker 1: fucked up, like you have to call your employer master
Speaker 1: for example. Or beyond that, there's some really like just bizarre,
Speaker 1: Like there's one that's like switching jobs legal, right, and
Speaker 1: not having a job for whatever period of time. Let's
Speaker 1: say you're searching for a new job you just left
Speaker 1: your previous one. Not having a job also illegal, and
Speaker 1: they would call you a vagrant quote unquote, So you're
Speaker 1: just kind of walking out on your own, grabbing some
Speaker 1: groceries as you're applying to your next job. That's a crime.
Speaker 1: So they made it so easy for black Americans to
Speaker 1: be charged with crimes. So that's what they would do.
Speaker 1: The police would come arrest them or get them a
Speaker 1: fine essentially, and the fines were so insanely high that
Speaker 1: no ordinary person, literally no ordinary person at that time
Speaker 1: could pay them. So what would end up happening is
Speaker 1: that black Americans were essentially having to work in a
Speaker 1: forced labor situation again, just like the period of enslavement,
Speaker 1: to pay off the fine. So this was a way
Speaker 1: for kind of white Southerners at the time to continue
Speaker 1: as many of the circumstances of slavery without actual quote
Speaker 1: unquote a word called slavery. Right, right, we'll just make
Speaker 1: it impossible to exist as a free person and then
Speaker 1: we can we can create some laws to find you
Speaker 1: in violation of your newly experienced freedom. Yeah, this documentary
Speaker 1: is really it's it was really dope. So in it
Speaker 1: you are talking with uh Black Forge or from TikTok
Speaker 1: and sort of like again, all your pieces start off
Speaker 1: with food, right, and like how how much food abounds.
Speaker 1: You know, in our urban environments are wooded areas that
Speaker 1: are edible if you just know what they are and
Speaker 1: how to prepare them, forage them, etcetera. And then then
Speaker 1: you there's like the moment in the documentary it's like, well,
Speaker 1: you know there it is hard to get to certain places,
Speaker 1: like you can only really forage in these like public
Speaker 1: spaces because of these things we see all around us
Speaker 1: no trespassing signs. And for me, I'm wise like, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: private property. People don't want you on their fucking property.
Speaker 1: And then you start then you begin to really explain
Speaker 1: sort of the evolution of the no trespassing sign, you know,
Speaker 1: like in using foraging as a jumping off point, but
Speaker 1: like I walk us through just a little bit of
Speaker 1: like how we went from the newly found freedom for
Speaker 1: people who are who are coming from the Britain to
Speaker 1: the American colony and how that sort of evolved into
Speaker 1: these like no trespassing laws we've seen now totally to
Speaker 1: the history is just insane and fascinating. And you know,
Speaker 1: so I mean to start off with basically people who
Speaker 1: came to the original settlers, you know, colonists who came
Speaker 1: to colonize this land, you know, America, the United States,
Speaker 1: what have you. A lot of them were basically charged
Speaker 1: with crimes in the UK, are in Great Britain, i
Speaker 1: should say, And so one of those crimes was poaching
Speaker 1: or hunting illegally on someone else's private property or what
Speaker 1: have you. So these people were then deported right quote
Speaker 1: unquote criminals to this new land for this crime. And
Speaker 1: so because they had been penalized for basically trespassing quote
Speaker 1: unquote and hunting on people's lands, these colonists were like, hell, no,
Speaker 1: we are not having any trustpass laws in this fantasy
Speaker 1: new land that is ours l O L. It's not theirs,
Speaker 1: but whatever, so they're here. They're like, no trustpassing. You
Speaker 1: can freely walk anywhere, gather berries, mushrooms, you know, shoot
Speaker 1: a rabbit, shoot a deer, eat it, hunted fish wherever
Speaker 1: you want. This is this is the new land that
Speaker 1: we have. Of course, again they didn't include black and
Speaker 1: indigenous people in that definition. It was mainly for white
Speaker 1: kind of European columnists. But anyways, that's the law, that's
Speaker 1: that's kind of what they set out to do. But
Speaker 1: this all of a sudden changes, right and and and
Speaker 1: before before I should get to the change, I should
Speaker 1: also say that that foraging for wild foods and so
Speaker 1: forth everyone today, so so a lot of black Americans
Speaker 1: at that time, during the period of enslavement. You know,
Speaker 1: the food that the white landowners were handing out was
Speaker 1: not sufficient, it was not great. So they would fill
Speaker 1: out their diets with you know, hunting that they would
Speaker 1: do on the side. They would maybe have a little
Speaker 1: a little plot of land where they can grow a
Speaker 1: little something and then forging while you know, fruits, berries,
Speaker 1: what have you, to fill out those diets. Anyways, Now, basically,
Speaker 1: when the Civil War happens, and after the Civil War
Speaker 1: eighteen sixty five, slavery is abolished, then what ends up
Speaker 1: happening is and that the researcher kind of describes this
Speaker 1: how he noticed it when he was looking through land
Speaker 1: and legal documents. He's like, the United States, you know,
Speaker 1: the country is destroyed, right, just went through a civil war, right,
Speaker 1: and instead of passing like a ton a ship ton
Speaker 1: of laws about reconstruction, which they did eventually do, but
Speaker 1: instead of doing that up first, like oh my god,
Speaker 1: let's fund this reconstructive building, reconstruct that building, they started
Speaker 1: passing laws about trust passing, which he was like, I
Speaker 1: kept noticing this again and again and again. I'm like,
Speaker 1: why the hell After the country has been ravaged everyone,
Speaker 1: you know, hospital people are dead, there's people who are
Speaker 1: missing limbs and they're walking on whatever. Instead of passing
Speaker 1: laws to help those people and build the country, you
Speaker 1: are passing laws about trustpassing. Why could this be? And
Speaker 1: he traces it out. I mean, this is like a
Speaker 1: ten year research project that this dude to spend time
Speaker 1: on and basically was like, there is no other reason
Speaker 1: besides what he calls racialized labor control. Basically, newly freed
Speaker 1: black Americans now in the economy now living, you know,
Speaker 1: trying to live free lives, and the former kind of
Speaker 1: white landowners who held plantations and whatever in the South
Speaker 1: were like, no, we want to continue as many of
Speaker 1: the conditions of slavery as possible, and so passing trespassing
Speaker 1: laws was one way to do that. How did it
Speaker 1: do that? It was basically by limiting Black Americans from
Speaker 1: forging and filling out their diets and supplementing their diets
Speaker 1: with other foods that they would find. So they basically
Speaker 1: wanted to I mean, this is very graphic. But they
Speaker 1: wanted to starve newly freed black Americans back into confinement,
Speaker 1: back into working for the plantation. In other words, come
Speaker 1: and work for me. That's your only option. You cannot
Speaker 1: find food for yourself. And so they got these laws
Speaker 1: passed initially, and and that it kind of explains the
Speaker 1: spread of no truspassing laws. Obviously today they exist for
Speaker 1: a completely different reasons. Somebody has a no truspassing law,
Speaker 1: you know whatever, It doesn't mean that they're racist or whatever.
Speaker 1: But the spread of them in this country, the rapid
Speaker 1: rapid spread, has a lot to do with racism, you know,
Speaker 1: against because the energy prior to that was like yeah,
Speaker 1: fucking man, yeah, eat that, I don't know, yeah exactly,
Speaker 1: shot that hunt that up over my fence and grab berries.
Speaker 1: I don't care. Right, It's like what and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden is suddenly changed when all of a sudden
Speaker 1: it's like Black Americans doing it. So it's you know,
Speaker 1: it comes back so many of the histories, whether it's
Speaker 1: the hit, we can go into so many things with this.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's very interesting because you know, like Myles
Speaker 1: said earlier, you know, you it's very funny how this
Speaker 1: ship is ingrained in us because I would just think, oh,
Speaker 1: no trustpassing, Oh yeah, sure, you know it's private property.
Speaker 1: I don't want to eat in my berries. I don't
Speaker 1: trust to you. Blah blah blah ah, these type of
Speaker 1: things that we've just been tall and you know, put
Speaker 1: into our system, put into our system, in our mental capacities.
Speaker 1: But you know it's crazy to hear. Oh yeah, before that,
Speaker 1: people was like, oh you some berries, Yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: it's there for, Come get them. And then when black
Speaker 1: people was like, oh, we're yeah almost the berries. Hold
Speaker 1: on on that. Niggas hold one, man, I don't know
Speaker 1: where you've been at. I don't know. I don't know you.
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're gonna do if you come
Speaker 1: on my property, you know. And it's just and how
Speaker 1: that mindset is like gotten passed down and yeah, or
Speaker 1: even just the idea right like I was raised to
Speaker 1: never go on somebody else's property. I was just that
Speaker 1: was just something inherently I was told from my dad,
Speaker 1: my grand just like yo, don't you don't don't just
Speaker 1: walk up on that person's lawn or some ship. You
Speaker 1: don't know what the fox want. There's there's an inherent
Speaker 1: there's just like subconscious idea that there are spaces you
Speaker 1: can't access, right, and you think about how much of
Speaker 1: that is directly tied back to people who have been
Speaker 1: newly freed saying I need, I'm trying to find a
Speaker 1: way to survive and have access to these certain things.
Speaker 1: But then suddenly you have these laws that are criminalizing
Speaker 1: your existence in your way of living. And just how
Speaker 1: that sort of idea too, Like it's funny, like I
Speaker 1: remember being like as kids, you know, some of my
Speaker 1: white friends were like, oh, let's go run up on
Speaker 1: this doing ding dong ditch sh it, and I was saying,
Speaker 1: I don't know about that ship. I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: run up on somebody's sucking like, you know, for a
Speaker 1: myriad of reasons, but that there's always this sort of
Speaker 1: consistent emphasis on the idea that there are spaces that
Speaker 1: are limited for some people and other people do have access,
Speaker 1: and it's just it's just wild house. So much of
Speaker 1: it you're like truly like, fuck, of course we're there's
Speaker 1: a straight line from that to slavery or like you know,
Speaker 1: when people discover like tipping is a relic of slavery
Speaker 1: as well. Really, I was just bring that up to
Speaker 1: tipping is the same as I mean, it's a long
Speaker 1: and straight we don't have to go into it, but
Speaker 1: similar that you know, you know, white Americans very opposed
Speaker 1: to tipping because it represented class, and they're like, we
Speaker 1: don't like Great Britain. Everything is about class and you're
Speaker 1: lesser and you're more, and you're greater and I'm lesser.
Speaker 1: We don't want that. This is America, democracy, freedom, everyone's
Speaker 1: the same. But then we bling bring in the issue
Speaker 1: of rays. Then you know, how do people start feeling well,
Speaker 1: they don't feel comfortable tipping other white Americans because it
Speaker 1: would indicate lower status, you tipping whom were lower than you.
Speaker 1: But then all of a sudden when it comes to
Speaker 1: black Americans, Oh, all of a sudden, everyone's okay with tipping.
Speaker 1: And then the culture fully changes in Now the United
Speaker 1: States does tipping, and and and the UK does not
Speaker 1: do tipping. It's right, god like history, Yeah, it's it's yeah.
Speaker 1: And so I mean all that to say is, yeah,
Speaker 1: the work that you do in these documentaries are really
Speaker 1: eye opening because there there's always a way to have
Speaker 1: this intersection of like our history and the things that
Speaker 1: we're doing now and like, you know, just finding that
Speaker 1: awareness through just a bit of research, which I think
Speaker 1: is there's a real great thing. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: That's a documentary question just in general, because I always
Speaker 1: find documentaries fascinating from a research standpoint, because you know,
Speaker 1: like we all are very used to going down rabbit hole,
Speaker 1: so to say, if you find one thing out, you
Speaker 1: you read a little bit about it, and then you
Speaker 1: just start going down rabbit holes of information and things
Speaker 1: like that as a researcher and as you know, quicker,
Speaker 1: as long as you want to talk about it, what
Speaker 1: is that process of finding the topic, researching it, putting
Speaker 1: it together? Like what is the what is the you know,
Speaker 1: the process of a documentary of this sort? I think
Speaker 1: I think maybe I guess the part I want to
Speaker 1: concentrate on is like the ideation part of it, like
Speaker 1: how do we get these ideas and how do we
Speaker 1: connect them to food and whatever? And honestly, I think
Speaker 1: the best works that we've we've my team is done,
Speaker 1: and or the works that were most proud of, I
Speaker 1: should say, like it really just comes from daily life inspiration.
Speaker 1: Like if we go back to the native American cuisine
Speaker 1: piece though. You know, we opened this episode with like
Speaker 1: I was, I was traveling, went on a road trip
Speaker 1: with some friends to the Southwest. We went to New Mexico,
Speaker 1: we went to Arizona, and you know, we went to
Speaker 1: the Navajo Nation and we went to the reservation, went
Speaker 1: on a tour through what's called Antelope Canyon. It's a
Speaker 1: beautiful canyon. It's been featured on National Geographic. Its gorgeous
Speaker 1: in years. I think centuries of rain has caused this
Speaker 1: incredible smooth rock, amazing shapes. And obviously there's Navajo guides
Speaker 1: that you know, it's it's on their land, the organized
Speaker 1: the whole things. So we want to go see it.
Speaker 1: And then afterwards we're like, well we want to have
Speaker 1: you know, what is Navajo cuisine, right, And you know,
Speaker 1: we asked our guide and she was, you know, she
Speaker 1: was telling us, Oh, we don't really have any restaurants
Speaker 1: around here for us. You know, there was a Burger King,
Speaker 1: it was a McDonald's, there was a Wendy's, there was
Speaker 1: a Denny's. There weren't even that many supermarkets or any
Speaker 1: honestly that had fresh food. It was a food desert.
Speaker 1: The part of it that we were in and so
Speaker 1: I started asking, like, this is so screwed up that,
Speaker 1: you know, again the same concept we brought up, the
Speaker 1: indigenous people of this land, and there's there's not a
Speaker 1: single restaurant that that is here, and so we kind
Speaker 1: of started looking into it. We got back home and
Speaker 1: kind of finished that the trip, you know, me and
Speaker 1: my co producer at the time, just thinking like what's
Speaker 1: what's the reason for this? And so we look deeper
Speaker 1: and deeper and there's Reddit threads and people and then
Speaker 1: we come across an author, and then we come across
Speaker 1: another author, you know, a group of folks who own
Speaker 1: like a quick service Chippotele esque Native American restaurant in Colorado,
Speaker 1: and we start to connect the dots and just the
Speaker 1: in that sort of natural curiosity that comes from a
Speaker 1: real life, lived experience leads to this, you know, documentary,
Speaker 1: and it's kind of like at a certain point you
Speaker 1: need to kind of cross your fingers, closed your eyes
Speaker 1: and jumped into it because they're like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: is there something here? We're calling people, were talking to people,
Speaker 1: reading books, reading articles. There's not really too many articles
Speaker 1: that are written about this. Why are their notative, and
Speaker 1: there was a National geographic piece, and like I think
Speaker 1: one other thing that was a little tiny piece. So
Speaker 1: we were kind of, you know, in these uncharted waters,
Speaker 1: sort of trying to figure out where is the academic
Speaker 1: paper or who is the leading resource on this, and
Speaker 1: you know, we kind of spoke to a lot of
Speaker 1: indigenous chefs and kind of piece together what they were
Speaker 1: saying with with some of the history, and that's that.
Speaker 1: So it's very much lived experience. Again, Like another piece
Speaker 1: I think we're very proud of is about a I
Speaker 1: mean just kind of put it blankly, a phallic shaped
Speaker 1: clam and basically, yeah, the gooey duck exactly. And so
Speaker 1: that came up from an office conversation we were going
Speaker 1: to go to Seattle for another piece. One of our
Speaker 1: colleagues is from Seattle, is like, well, if you're doing
Speaker 1: if you're down there, why don't you do a quick
Speaker 1: piece about you know, this clam. And we're like, well,
Speaker 1: there's a really much history or science element to this piece,
Speaker 1: you know, but sure, maybe we'll do like a two
Speaker 1: minute video and just kind of call it a day.
Speaker 1: And then one of my producers, you know, she uncovered,
Speaker 1: like what woul did you know that this clam is
Speaker 1: being sold at very exorbitant prices in China. We're like, okay, interesting,
Speaker 1: but okay still, and then she's like, well, you know
Speaker 1: who's selling this clam to China and whose lives and
Speaker 1: has transformed are the indigenous communities of the Pacific Northwest.
Speaker 1: And we're like what. So we started looking into this,
Speaker 1: and this the sale of this clam, which again is
Speaker 1: an Indigenous American thing and has been consumed by you know,
Speaker 1: Native American tribes for for years, is being sold to
Speaker 1: China at very high rates, and that money has allowed
Speaker 1: them in their communities to provide for social services, a scholarships,
Speaker 1: medical services, services that they could they didn't have before
Speaker 1: on the reservation. So you know, that was like whoa,
Speaker 1: this is such an uplifting story and now they're claiming
Speaker 1: ownership of it because Washington State. So I could just
Speaker 1: go on and on about this, but there's a rule
Speaker 1: along Washington State where like of caught fish belongs to
Speaker 1: Native American communities. So if you are a non native
Speaker 1: person and you're fishing, you can only fish so much
Speaker 1: before they cut you off and say no for the
Speaker 1: sake of you know, it's like a reparations kind of thing.
Speaker 1: The rest of it belongs to them because for years
Speaker 1: it has been stolen from them. So it's that was
Speaker 1: like such an inspiring story, and we wanted to talk
Speaker 1: about that, so long story, short, real life experiences, ideas,
Speaker 1: some googling, some Reddit threads, rabbit holes, but that, honestly,
Speaker 1: to me, is the is the best way, right just
Speaker 1: to naturally let your curiosity take it, take it where
Speaker 1: it needs to cool. It's about having that the desire
Speaker 1: and the energy to just keep following it till you
Speaker 1: actually arrive at something and and then sure enough every
Speaker 1: time you do. So yeah, really amazing work. Thank you
Speaker 1: you guys, that's very kind of you. I mean even today,
Speaker 1: if I could just pop in the ankle bracelet thing,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start googling that today because that that not
Speaker 1: only makes me very upset, but like, is there what's
Speaker 1: the story behind that? I mean, yeah, that our carsial
Speaker 1: technologies are there's a pipeline from fucking agriculture cattle monitoring
Speaker 1: to now human Yeah, and what's that relationship? Who are
Speaker 1: the people there and who when where did they get
Speaker 1: this idea? Well, Yara, thank you so much for joining
Speaker 1: us from the daily side guys today, very very very
Speaker 1: awesome time. And I really encourage everybody to check out
Speaker 1: his work on a J plus on their YouTube channel
Speaker 1: two because it's there as well. But where can people
Speaker 1: find you and follow you? And what's a tweet that
Speaker 1: you like? Oh? Okay, so um we yes on J plus,
Speaker 1: I'm one. I'm also personally on Instagram on Twitter. Um,
Speaker 1: there's the kind of the two main platforms them on
Speaker 1: trying to get on TikTok. But yeah, it's basically first
Speaker 1: letter of my first names, then my whole last name
Speaker 1: at yelm jewey and a tweet that I like, got
Speaker 1: a few Okay, So actually I'm just kind of keeping
Speaker 1: in theme. I don't think guys were about that ceo
Speaker 1: that took a huge pay cut at his company to
Speaker 1: give everyone at his company a minimum of like seventy thousand. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the long haired kind of yeah, yeah, yesh. So he
Speaker 1: just tweeted out, which is because is a story that's
Speaker 1: been circulating. But basically, eight hundred fifty million dollars of
Speaker 1: New York States annual budget is going to fund the
Speaker 1: Buffalo bill Stadium. After New York State announced an eight
Speaker 1: hundred million dollar cut to Child and Family Services. So
Speaker 1: he tweeted that out and that was just such a
Speaker 1: you know, infuriating thing that happened, where you know, the
Speaker 1: state is funding this thing. And then the City University
Speaker 1: of New York also tweeted out how basically that eight
Speaker 1: hundred million dollars uh hundred fifty million that's being spent
Speaker 1: for the stadium could have been used to actually make
Speaker 1: the City University of New York free for everyone. And
Speaker 1: so those tweets that are circulating about sort of the
Speaker 1: screwed up nature of that probably my favorite tweet of
Speaker 1: the week. And also to get back I know, we
Speaker 1: finished on the Will Smith thing, but there's a great
Speaker 1: re enactment of Will Smith slapping Chris Rock but created
Speaker 1: within the Sims you know, the yeah it's too Sims characters,
Speaker 1: and I just thought the outfits are the same. It's
Speaker 1: like Oscar stage. I thought that was are they talking
Speaker 1: Sims language though they're like it's like, yeah, there's no
Speaker 1: audio on it if I remember, But that is the
Speaker 1: other thing. And yes, uh, if anyone you know would
Speaker 1: love we'd love to hear folks opinions in the comments
Speaker 1: on our new documentary on trespassing laws in the US.
Speaker 1: It's on YouTube, Instagram, all the all the platforms. Awesome
Speaker 1: the case. How about you? Where can they find you?
Speaker 1: Follow you? What's a tweet that you're liking? Ah? You
Speaker 1: know what it is? Everybody, you can find me in
Speaker 1: these streets. Uh. Speaking of which, if you are in Dallas,
Speaker 1: Texas this weekend, this is this is an evergreen But
Speaker 1: if you are in Dallas, Texas this weekend, I'm there.
Speaker 1: We are We're there for WrestleMania. So if you are there,
Speaker 1: hit me up. Let's uh listen, list enjoy WrestleMania weekend together.
Speaker 1: Everybody else. I'll be coming to a city near you sometime.
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe. Uh, what's a tweet? I'm looking
Speaker 1: for one? You know, Twitter has been funny over the
Speaker 1: past twenty four hours. It's just been annoying for the
Speaker 1: most part. But this one comes from at mevy Bear
Speaker 1: and it is you know when you know you have
Speaker 1: two things and then a handshaking between and it is
Speaker 1: Zoe Kravics and Jeremy Lynn Prime lasting a good month, Uh,
Speaker 1: which is very funny to me. I love that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's it. I don't know that's it. Yeah, get off,
Speaker 1: stay off Twitter for the weekend. Everybody, Uh, enjoy the
Speaker 1: sun and be happy, you know, enjoy enjoy this beautiful
Speaker 1: April weather that we're about to get. Uh one last time,
Speaker 1: since I don't know when I'll be coming back on
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be busting out the suit. You know, gonna
Speaker 1: be looking at snazzy, So come on out, everybody. Wait,
Speaker 1: are you gonna You're gonna have a nice uh Steve
Speaker 1: Harvey suit on? You know I'm not gonna. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna be wearing the old deacon pimp suit. Uh. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have regular ass shoulders. You know I'm gonna.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a suit on though, I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 1: gonna i always do this show. I've been done this
Speaker 1: show in three years, so you know it would be
Speaker 1: very fun. But I whenever I used to do it,
Speaker 1: it would always bust out the suit. So to suit
Speaker 1: just come. I even buy a new suit for this ship.
Speaker 1: Oh ship. You know who knows? I know Paul gonna
Speaker 1: be wearing the suit, so I gotta be wearing a suit.
Speaker 1: I can't help my own show and not let Paul
Speaker 1: out dress me. Yeah. Well yeah, I mean you're you're
Speaker 1: an excellent host, so I think you'll you'll you'll be
Speaker 1: you'll be just fine. Good, It'll be good. I'm looking
Speaker 1: forward to it. So come on. Now, let's see some
Speaker 1: tweets that I like. Really, just this one from uh
Speaker 1: actually no One is from at no context Brits and
Speaker 1: I'm sorry that this is a picture, but I just
Speaker 1: find it so funny because it's just one of those
Speaker 1: things where it says no One and then the next
Speaker 1: one says the British Museum, and it's these two dudes,
Speaker 1: like you know how people go to the Leaning Tower
Speaker 1: Rapizza and try and like lean on it and ship.
Speaker 1: These dudes frame the Leaning Tower of Pizza as if
Speaker 1: they were stealing it and putting it in their backpack.
Speaker 1: So anybody who has been to that that that British
Speaker 1: History Museum, there's a lot of stones and shipped up
Speaker 1: in there, So that one really resonated with me. They
Speaker 1: really made it look like they're like, you'll get this
Speaker 1: fucking leading tower in this one back back. Um. And
Speaker 1: then Sean Clements Clements at Sean clemenstuated imagining two guys
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