Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season two, twenty seven,
Speaker 1: Episode four of day Zgeist of production by Heart Radio.
Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we take a deep dive
Speaker 1: into America's shared consciousness. It is Thursday, March tenth two.
Speaker 1: My name is Jack O'Brien. A k eat ship from
Speaker 1: bananas b A n A n us that is courtesy
Speaker 1: of Christie am Gucci. Main reference to the little part
Speaker 1: of the banana a little like nub at the end
Speaker 1: that is gross. I always feel like I'm eating like
Speaker 1: a belly button or something. Anyways, the bananas well named
Speaker 1: by someone on Reddit whose name I don't remember but
Speaker 1: shout out to. Yeah. Well, I'm thrilled to be joined
Speaker 1: by today's special guest co host, a producer behind shows
Speaker 1: like Fake Doctors, Real Friends. Welcome to our show. You've
Speaker 1: heard her on Pop Culture, Happy Hour, read her at Vulture,
Speaker 1: The a V Club, Team, Boat Past, many more. She
Speaker 1: is the brilliant and talented Joel Money. Usually I like
Speaker 1: to give air horns when I come in, but today
Speaker 1: is day two without coffee, and apparently it's affecting me.
Speaker 1: I've been so moody all over Playlis. I got really
Speaker 1: mad because my playlist wouldn't work. It's a little embarrassing.
Speaker 1: Why can't I control my emotions when I don't have coffee?
Speaker 1: But it's not happening. So I just got in grace
Speaker 1: it on for health reasons, energy reasons. What do we
Speaker 1: what are we doing now? I was having horrible panic
Speaker 1: attacks and I didn't even really clock it until Justin
Speaker 1: pointed out the other day. He was like, maybe it's
Speaker 1: all the caffeine. And I was like, right, because like
Speaker 1: I medicated for all of my things now, like I've
Speaker 1: I've been good to go. And then I added espresso
Speaker 1: and it it messed up the calm of my spirit?
Speaker 1: Did I have to go off it? But I really
Speaker 1: really induce two It's how I woke up every morning.
Speaker 1: So I I've switched Tamacha like a month and a
Speaker 1: half ago because I live in l A and I've
Speaker 1: lived here for a way too long. And I felt
Speaker 1: like I had the flu for about a week. But
Speaker 1: one of it's good, it like keeps me a little
Speaker 1: bit more kind of leveled out, unless like spiky. But
Speaker 1: one of the benefits is that now coffee like even
Speaker 1: like shitty you know what, whatever coffee is available like
Speaker 1: is like cocaine. Once again, it's pretty cool. So I recommend,
Speaker 1: I recommend getting off coffee, except for like when you
Speaker 1: need just absurd boosts of you know, insane energy. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I have to figure something out because this ty tea
Speaker 1: is tasting like water. It's really not hitting. It's pretty good.
Speaker 1: We'll figure it out. I mean it's not good, but
Speaker 1: it's a it's a substitute worth testing. I need a
Speaker 1: roasted bean flavoring. Okay, I need full body flavor to
Speaker 1: smooth me into my morning. I'm gonna figure it out. Internet,
Speaker 1: you figured out for me and then out, I think, Joel.
Speaker 1: We are fortunate to be joined in our third seat
Speaker 1: by a hilarious comedian, one of our favorite guests on
Speaker 1: t d Z, Dave Girl wants touched for arm and said, hey,
Speaker 1: you're pretty funny. You can see her on stages everywhere
Speaker 1: from California to London, Berlin, Singapore. Go follow her on
Speaker 1: Twitter and then watch her set from Punchline SF last week.
Speaker 1: It is brilliant and such a blast and makes me
Speaker 1: excited to go see stand up comedy again. It is
Speaker 1: Lydia Papa. Here's your airhorns. Oh my god, I'm so
Speaker 1: excited talk Joel, I have a solution for you. Then, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I have a solution for you. There is a product
Speaker 1: that is I won't say the brand name because a
Speaker 1: brand whatever, right like I'll say, I'm not giving anybody
Speaker 1: any free advertisement. But there is a mix that is
Speaker 1: chi te flavored like espresso, and I think it has
Speaker 1: a little bit of espresso in it, but like pretty
Speaker 1: miniscule amounts, and it is so delicious. It's a little powder.
Speaker 1: It comes in a canister. It's made in San Francisco.
Speaker 1: You put it into water and you can put it
Speaker 1: into coconut milk, you can put it into regular milk,
Speaker 1: you can put it into whatever milk you want. Give
Speaker 1: it a little and then next thing you know, you
Speaker 1: have a delicious coffee tinged like low caffeine beverage. I
Speaker 1: got you, I got you every time I passed. Cassie
Speaker 1: saved my life a little. Thank you so much. Really,
Speaker 1: I am. I am full of lots of lots of
Speaker 1: little things. I don't know a lot about a lot,
Speaker 1: but I know a little about a lot. Does that
Speaker 1: make sense as it does? Yes? Exactly? Hell yeah up
Speaker 1: the butt Yeah is super caffeinated just like you. Know
Speaker 1: what I mean, But it doesn't smack you in the face. Yeah,
Speaker 1: different different properties, right, It's it's the real, the real
Speaker 1: kicker about coffee. And I love coffee, and I think
Speaker 1: coffee gets a bad name, but I do think the
Speaker 1: coffee needs to be used in moderation. Like I spent
Speaker 1: a long time drinking way too much of it, and
Speaker 1: now I've got it to literally like I have a
Speaker 1: cup of it in the morning and it's great and
Speaker 1: I'm fine the rest of the day. That's the only
Speaker 1: way you got to do it. If you're having that
Speaker 1: like one thirty iced coffee, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: If you are, that's that's the slippery slope, man. That's
Speaker 1: that's a young person's game. That's a young person's game.
Speaker 1: I remember the college down in three of these a day,
Speaker 1: just really embracing all the power my youth had to
Speaker 1: offer slightly above the ground at all time. And then
Speaker 1: around like six pm, your palms are sweating and you're
Speaker 1: just like, what's happening. That's that's vodka clock though, So
Speaker 1: we're fine. You just switch over vodka clock, Lydia, how
Speaker 1: are you doing? It was great on stage, I'm good,
Speaker 1: I'm yeah, it's been awesome. I'm actually like so thrilled
Speaker 1: that comedy clubs have people in them again. Uh, it's
Speaker 1: not something that was happening kind of regularly. You never
Speaker 1: knew what was happening when you're going into places. And
Speaker 1: now I feel like people are really out, Like they're out,
Speaker 1: they're sitting in the chairs, they're excited to take their
Speaker 1: masks off, they're laughing. You know, people aren't on the
Speaker 1: verge of, you know, freaking out. They're just having a
Speaker 1: genuine good time. And it makes my job so much
Speaker 1: more easy just to get up there and have a
Speaker 1: great time and and not feel bad about it, right,
Speaker 1: like not feel like I'm contributing to like putting people's
Speaker 1: lives at risk. I'm feeling much better about being a
Speaker 1: live performer. It's incredible. Yeah, that's interesting. There's like an
Speaker 1: inverted thing where the harder you kill as a comedian,
Speaker 1: the more droplets you're putting out into the air. Oh
Speaker 1: and I'm a I'm a spinner. I know it, like
Speaker 1: I see it coming out of my mouth that I'm mortified.
Speaker 1: Like that's why I bought my own mic. I take
Speaker 1: my own mic with me now. And yeah, and I
Speaker 1: love of a stage that's like Cobs in San Francisco
Speaker 1: where it's elevated and you're also like away, So the
Speaker 1: likelihood of my like spit droplets landing on someone are
Speaker 1: pretty it's not gonna happen. But then like a punchline,
Speaker 1: Oh for sure, I'm spitting on people, like there's fluid
Speaker 1: flying out of my mouth. So yeah, it's basically audience
Speaker 1: in the stage there. Yeah, but that's why it's such
Speaker 1: a great room though, you know, and they have like
Speaker 1: they have brought the you know, those tables aren't right
Speaker 1: up on the stage like they used to be, so
Speaker 1: I mean the venues are accommodating as well. But yeah, man,
Speaker 1: it is it's a trip to be that conscious of it,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and really in seed droplets
Speaker 1: and be like I'm killing someone maybe I love god Lydia.
Speaker 1: What are the audiences like are you finding because as
Speaker 1: a movie theater goer, I have found that people are
Speaker 1: much more generous with their joy. In other words, what
Speaker 1: we used to have to work for it to get
Speaker 1: an applause or you know, a big group laughter. I
Speaker 1: feel like everyone's just very primed for that and kind
Speaker 1: of jumping in maybe when it's not but still it's lovely.
Speaker 1: I mean, it kind of depends. I mean I think
Speaker 1: in general, you're right. I think people are excited to
Speaker 1: be out and be doing something and be doing it
Speaker 1: for fun and not like because it's like a necessary activity.
Speaker 1: But I will say that I think there is a
Speaker 1: contingent of audience members that have number one, forgotten how
Speaker 1: to act outside the house, right, Like they have just
Speaker 1: forgotten how to act, Like they forget that they're not
Speaker 1: at home, so their body language is weird, or their
Speaker 1: facial expressions are weird, or just some of their habits
Speaker 1: are odd, or they are just rude right where they're
Speaker 1: just like, oh, I'm gonna just turn and have a
Speaker 1: full last conversation with someone because that's what I would
Speaker 1: do at home watching Netflix. Or they are so excited
Speaker 1: to be out and talk to other people they want
Speaker 1: to literally like have a conversation with you where they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna speak out loud after every joke that you
Speaker 1: say and tell you how great it is, and then
Speaker 1: tell them it's great and then tell you why we
Speaker 1: think it. Also, this is this isn't a panel discussion,
Speaker 1: all right, I'm up here doing a thing and I
Speaker 1: need you to hush it up. But but they're having fun,
Speaker 1: right Like, they're not trying to heckle, They're just like
Speaker 1: want to be a part of what's happening. You know,
Speaker 1: relationships are one h I talked back to my podcasts.
Speaker 1: They hear, I mean, you don't they like it. I
Speaker 1: emailed them like long emails and they read them on
Speaker 1: air to me. Yeah. The other thing is is that
Speaker 1: I think, I mean, many of us during the quarantine,
Speaker 1: while we are at staying at home and entertaining ourselves
Speaker 1: also maybe drank a little. And then that became a lot,
Speaker 1: and I think people forgot how to be public drunk right,
Speaker 1: Like at home drunk is a very different drunk than
Speaker 1: I'm in public bar drunk right versus I'm in public
Speaker 1: at an event drunk. So some people are like just
Speaker 1: taking shots to the face and then forty minutes in
Speaker 1: their shiphoused and they're just like, yeah, like a lot
Speaker 1: of woods. Like it used to just be like, you know,
Speaker 1: bachelotte parties, and now it's just like everybody your grandma,
Speaker 1: your aunt, your uncle. Like I've seen three separate occasions
Speaker 1: I've seen women in their forties getting escorted out the
Speaker 1: club for being too Wow. I love it. Though that's
Speaker 1: a very woo energy can be. It can be overwhelming,
Speaker 1: but it's really nice. For like the first two minutes
Speaker 1: or whatever. You're like, all right, You're very excited. But
Speaker 1: then like after like six minutes, you're like, okay, lady,
Speaker 1: I know I'm funny, but I'm not this many woods.
Speaker 1: You gotta you, gotta, you gotta dial it back, you know,
Speaker 1: get you know who whoo who you know? And you're like,
Speaker 1: I get it, you're nine seven percent chardonnay at this point,
Speaker 1: but like I need you to just chill and shut
Speaker 1: the funk up, just just you know, just be public drunk.
Speaker 1: Be public drunk, have a good time. A lot of
Speaker 1: people like kicked up there drinking at home and now
Speaker 1: like they're back out and they're drinking more. And then
Speaker 1: I think there's also people who, like, you know, if
Speaker 1: you haven't dragged a long time, you just don't know
Speaker 1: how to act, oh absolutely, or just also just feeling
Speaker 1: fun being like I'm fully in public lit. Everyone else
Speaker 1: is lit. Like in all that energy starts like just
Speaker 1: getting you feeling even more excited, and then next thing
Speaker 1: you know you're like, oh, yeah, I can do whatever
Speaker 1: I want. It's dark in this room, no one can
Speaker 1: see me, right, But I'm glad they're there. I am
Speaker 1: glad people are there. I will say that. And I think,
Speaker 1: for the most part, honestly, like the shows I've been
Speaker 1: doing have been super fun, super super super fun, and
Speaker 1: it's it just feels like I don't know, Like, whenever
Speaker 1: I tour with Felipe Esparza, his audiences are hands down
Speaker 1: the best audiences in the world. Like, I will put
Speaker 1: money on it. There's no way you cannot have fun
Speaker 1: at his shows. His audience just come the perfect level
Speaker 1: of wasted and the perfect level of like just ready
Speaker 1: to have a good time. And I feel like every
Speaker 1: show I've been to has been like almost a Philip
Speaker 1: by audience. That's how excited people are to be out.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, man, this is great. Tides Attorney. Tides Attorney.
Speaker 1: All right, well, we are going to get to know
Speaker 1: you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're
Speaker 1: gonna tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking
Speaker 1: about on the show. Later on, we're talking about Biden
Speaker 1: really wants everybody back in the office, Lydia, you went
Speaker 1: back to your office the stage. But you know, there
Speaker 1: there's something about going to see live comedy that isn't
Speaker 1: replicable by you know, being at home on zoom, whereas
Speaker 1: many studies have shown that working from home employees are
Speaker 1: more productive or equally productive, and they prefer it. So
Speaker 1: there's there's like not really a logic that has been
Speaker 1: expressed other than like we gotta show we beat this
Speaker 1: dang COVID and get back out there to the office, folks.
Speaker 1: And I think he kind of gave the game away
Speaker 1: where he was like people can like return to their
Speaker 1: offices and like go fill fill up city squares or
Speaker 1: some ship like that, which is go, okay, so it's
Speaker 1: real estate, but we'll talk about that. There's an essay
Speaker 1: on blood knife dot com, which is a website I
Speaker 1: had never been to before, but well, say, what are
Speaker 1: your bookmarks? Like my guy, But it's from the writer
Speaker 1: Quel raquel as Benedict about the sexlessness of movies over
Speaker 1: the past twenty years and like just the not even
Speaker 1: just like there's not sex scenes, but like they don't
Speaker 1: feel horny, Like it feels like the sex has been
Speaker 1: removed from them. And you know there's some good examples.
Speaker 1: I think. I think Christopher Nolan is like the king
Speaker 1: of this complete he made Yeah, he made a movie
Speaker 1: that takes place in people's dreams where nobody there's not
Speaker 1: even like a horny image in there. It's just like
Speaker 1: a bunch of guys skiing around and like try shooting
Speaker 1: at other guys, like which is nary a boner inside?
Speaker 1: Nary a boner in sight? And nobody said ship. They
Speaker 1: were just like, yeah, I know that makes sense because
Speaker 1: he's good at making movies. So we're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: that all of that plenty more. But first, lady, we
Speaker 1: do like to ask our guests, what is something from
Speaker 1: your search history? Oh, search history? I took a look
Speaker 1: today and the first thing on there was fifteen best
Speaker 1: places for Champagne in Nashville. Yes, that's That's where I'm
Speaker 1: at in my level of evolving and getting back into
Speaker 1: the office, because my other office is fucking brunch and
Speaker 1: I miss it. I miss sitting in a restaurant with
Speaker 1: a fine white tablecloth. I miss having a actual glass,
Speaker 1: preferably a crystal glass that is filled with a real champagne.
Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about a sparkling wine. I'm not
Speaker 1: talking about a prosecco. I am talking about a champagne
Speaker 1: from France. Ladies and gentlemen, I am talking there's a
Speaker 1: different bubbles the US. Listen once you have, because at
Speaker 1: first I was like, how how different could it be? Really?
Speaker 1: What's what's truly happy? And then I went to France?
Speaker 1: Was that can? I was in turning? Someone handed me
Speaker 1: a glass of champagne. It took two schnockered first of all,
Speaker 1: which is off my ass. And then second, I've never
Speaker 1: giggled so much, and my baby could not have out
Speaker 1: giggled me that day. It is the most uplifting, jovial
Speaker 1: drink on the planet. I will say in defensive persecco
Speaker 1: though a Balini hits it's I'm not I'm not mad
Speaker 1: at that. But have you had peach puree and a
Speaker 1: French class of champagne topped with a little bit of shamboard?
Speaker 1: You're turning me? Yeah, exactly exactly. I mean, the two
Speaker 1: are not mutually exclusive, you know what I mean. It's
Speaker 1: just a matter of like where you're at in your life,
Speaker 1: where are you at on that any given sunday, You
Speaker 1: know what I mean? That would my any given Sunday
Speaker 1: would literally be about like an epic brunch would have
Speaker 1: zero to do with football. It would literally be like
Speaker 1: a presentation of breads, you know what I mean, and
Speaker 1: like salted meats and cheese is like also, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: man exactly, but yeah, this is brunched. By the way,
Speaker 1: a shirt already shirts and you're honestly, you're right. I
Speaker 1: need to trademark that is. Brunch is kind of perfect.
Speaker 1: What's the perfect brunch size? Lydia, how many people are
Speaker 1: we sitting down to brunch with no more than four statements? Okay,
Speaker 1: I really think that's where. I've done brunch with five,
Speaker 1: and I've done brunch with six. I prefer an even number.
Speaker 1: I think six works out fine too, but it has
Speaker 1: to be the right six people. The reason why I
Speaker 1: say four is because I like intimacy. I like being involved.
Speaker 1: I like all parties being involved in the conversation. I
Speaker 1: feel like when you have a group of four, you
Speaker 1: can sit perfectly at a four top. There's not an
Speaker 1: awkward wait. You are more likely to get a good
Speaker 1: reservation and be seated in one of the preferable places
Speaker 1: of the restaurant where you have a great server four
Speaker 1: people can evenly split a bottle of champagne or two
Speaker 1: or three without having extras. Four people can also split entrees,
Speaker 1: and you can split things in a much cleaner way,
Speaker 1: so you're actually maximizing your access to the brunch menu
Speaker 1: and able to enjoy more of it. The dyeah, I
Speaker 1: was brunching for enjoyment, but you're got brunching down to
Speaker 1: a science. Like I'm epic. I am convinced no more
Speaker 1: than I recently did an eight person brunch that I
Speaker 1: did half the conversation and the other half is on
Speaker 1: the other side. And it was lovely to see people's faces,
Speaker 1: but I didn't know what was going on in their lives.
Speaker 1: I didn't feel like I got caught up. And the
Speaker 1: food was amazing. But yeah, no, totally okay, four next brunch,
Speaker 1: we're trying for people. We'll see how it goes, because
Speaker 1: for me, the brunch isn't about I mean, yes, I
Speaker 1: enjoy the company, but like I am laser focused on
Speaker 1: enjoying brunch foods and enjoying that meal, like I really
Speaker 1: am about the meal, Like I came to eat and
Speaker 1: I came to drink. I have a whole bit about
Speaker 1: it where I say, like I have two and three
Speaker 1: hours and I'm trying to get sucked up like I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean fucked up on food and on drink. Like
Speaker 1: when I'm done, I'm done, Like I'm done. Like that,
Speaker 1: We're going back to the crib. We're taking debs and
Speaker 1: I'm getting in my cozy's and I'm gonna take a
Speaker 1: nap and I'll wake up and i will order dinner
Speaker 1: or something like that, or I'll have a like a
Speaker 1: soup or something, you know what I mean. I'll have
Speaker 1: something very light, but like when you eat a brunch
Speaker 1: like that, like that's that's the food you're taking in
Speaker 1: that day, and the rest of the day is just
Speaker 1: letting your body recover because there's so much butter and
Speaker 1: there's so much richness going on that like you don't
Speaker 1: really want to soll your body with anything besides like
Speaker 1: delicious butter, delicious champagne, gorgeous breads, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: just top of the line, top of the line. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I haven't found like my brunch spot yet in Nashville.
Speaker 1: So I've just been kind of looking because it's either
Speaker 1: they've got great food and a ship wine list, or
Speaker 1: they've got a great wine list and ship food and
Speaker 1: like I haven't found the middle, and like I love
Speaker 1: Southern cooking and I love Southern food, but like I
Speaker 1: really personally prefer a brunch that has a bistro, a
Speaker 1: French bistro leme. So, you know, I don't want a
Speaker 1: biscuit engravy necessarily, you know, unless you're doing something really
Speaker 1: fucking special to that biscuit and really fucking special to
Speaker 1: black grade. That's how I feel. I didn't come for grids.
Speaker 1: But the last time I went to Brenches, this black
Speaker 1: own dresstaurant in Brentwood that of course now I cannot
Speaker 1: remember the name of it, but they had an oxtail
Speaker 1: and grids. No one could talk to me. I was like, please,
Speaker 1: I have to eat this and focus on what it's
Speaker 1: coming like it's so good. Oh man, that sounds delih Yeah. See,
Speaker 1: I just I love creativity. I have to plan a
Speaker 1: brunch now, yeah, go ahead. Sorry, We're all like, no,
Speaker 1: what what else wanta talk Aboutlet's talk about food? How much?
Speaker 1: What something you think is overrated? For me? Honestly? Good segue.
Speaker 1: I think that TikTok recipes are these Instagram chefs like
Speaker 1: these like fifteen second, like, hey, how to make ten
Speaker 1: meals in one minute? Where you like get a get
Speaker 1: a sheet pan and then put dry noodles on it
Speaker 1: and then put cubes up cheese and then put a
Speaker 1: pile of meat and then put a pile of this
Speaker 1: and then put it in the oven and then it
Speaker 1: looks gross, but start all together and it's a dip
Speaker 1: like no, bro like I don't, I don't, that's not right.
Speaker 1: You gotta you gotta blow them noodles dog Like I
Speaker 1: just I'm over this, like TikTok cheffing. There's such a
Speaker 1: trend on it and it's so hilarious and everyone has
Speaker 1: like a little catchphrase. There's this dude from New York
Speaker 1: that literally just fries everything, and it's always like you
Speaker 1: gotta put paprika, you gotta put on your powder, you
Speaker 1: gotta put garlic powder, you gotta put your lowreathes, and
Speaker 1: then you know, you just dip it in the sauce,
Speaker 1: you know. And then he always ends up with and
Speaker 1: I got that bev. Don't play with me, you know,
Speaker 1: I got that bev. And then he shows you like
Speaker 1: a like a jar of like sucking ocean spray hair
Speaker 1: and berry juice. You're like, that's not an exclusive BEV
Speaker 1: my guy the day like who cares? All right, you
Speaker 1: made fried shrimp and you have some cranberry juice? Are
Speaker 1: you seven? What is happening? Less? I checked up with
Speaker 1: the social media like chefs some recipes where you like
Speaker 1: actually watch the video. Like we found out that the
Speaker 1: thing that everybody was passing around was like a fetish
Speaker 1: video those people who are like making lasagna on the countertop.
Speaker 1: Like that's like, that's just a weird fetish video that
Speaker 1: you know. Everybody was like I can't believe you know,
Speaker 1: these people are so bad at cooking. And I was like,
Speaker 1: now they're people are jerking off to this. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: and there's also like these weird trends that are coming
Speaker 1: over from that, like the food jerk off world. Like
Speaker 1: there's a whole genre of like very cute sort of
Speaker 1: like homely girl next door cooks on Instagram and tiktop
Speaker 1: and they all leaning over super close to the camera
Speaker 1: like in the worst kitchen position you could possibly do
Speaker 1: to chop vegetables. But it's about a very specific angle,
Speaker 1: like that chick who made the like salmon with the
Speaker 1: like seaweed and the rice and the microwave that people
Speaker 1: lost their fucking minds about. Like she does this same
Speaker 1: movement where it's like I'm gonna over lean and get
Speaker 1: really close to the camera and like a smr the
Speaker 1: way I'm cutting stuff, and I'm just like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: what is this is? Like you're you're making leftovers, bitch,
Speaker 1: Like why is this a whole of like what is
Speaker 1: hanging back? Julia Child's Okay, I want my six ft
Speaker 1: tall and crying when they eat bread. This is my ideal.
Speaker 1: I just I just want people to know how to
Speaker 1: actually cook. That's my whole thing. Is Like I learned
Speaker 1: how to cook from the women in my family and
Speaker 1: from my dad, and like I just feel like it's
Speaker 1: such like a sacred thing, right, Like it's so awesome
Speaker 1: to learn how to cook from your parents. And I
Speaker 1: think that you should cook for yourself and then that
Speaker 1: way you cook for your family, but be at your
Speaker 1: kids or your your loved ones or whatever. Like it's
Speaker 1: just it's such a human thing to prepare a meal.
Speaker 1: And I don't like seeing it sort of convenience sized,
Speaker 1: and I don't like seeing it fetishized, and I don't
Speaker 1: like seeing it just sort of like these girls are like, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't know how to cook, so like I'm in
Speaker 1: a microwave this and then show you this paper plate
Speaker 1: and be like, oh, she's a she's a wife. Now
Speaker 1: it's like no, it's you're gonna lose the entirety of
Speaker 1: your man with that weight. Like that's just learn how
Speaker 1: to cook. Just learn how to cook. What is something
Speaker 1: you think is underrated? Persistence? I think that people need
Speaker 1: to be more persistent. It's really difficult to achieve your goals, right,
Speaker 1: It's really difficult to achieve your dreams. And I think
Speaker 1: it's one thing to like dream up what you want
Speaker 1: to do, dream up what you want to see, dream
Speaker 1: up want you want to get, and it's another thing
Speaker 1: to actually follow through and start traveling down that path
Speaker 1: and getting to it. Right, Whether that's something as simple
Speaker 1: as like you know, me finding a Dolly Parton pinball
Speaker 1: machine that I've been looking for for ten years, or
Speaker 1: it's like I want to be an ice skater, right,
Speaker 1: like whatever it is. I just think that a lot
Speaker 1: of the time we just give up, right, Like you
Speaker 1: couldn't find it, You couldn't you know, you're not that
Speaker 1: great at skating, Like, oh, I guess I'm not going
Speaker 1: to be a skater, Like just keep trying, like keep going,
Speaker 1: because you will get what you want if you keep
Speaker 1: doing it, you know. And of course, like it's just
Speaker 1: in my head because I did. I got this fucking
Speaker 1: Dolly Parton pinball machine that I really have been looking
Speaker 1: for for ten years, and any other normal, sane person
Speaker 1: would have just given up, but like, no, my psychotic
Speaker 1: ass and persistent ass was like, no, no, no, I'm
Speaker 1: going to literally look online twice a month and try
Speaker 1: to find one that isn't good conditionally, like in one
Speaker 1: day I will find it. And I did, and now
Speaker 1: I have it and it's beautiful and I love it.
Speaker 1: But wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for persistence. You
Speaker 1: set an alarm like on this day every month, or
Speaker 1: it was just that much of a like goal for
Speaker 1: you that you just like, like, we're doing it regardless
Speaker 1: you were you were searching for the Dolly Parton pinball
Speaker 1: machine that much of a goal for me. And also
Speaker 1: I just like, like I have weekly searches that I
Speaker 1: do for random Dolly Parton stuff because like I said,
Speaker 1: I have a problem. So it's just like it's part
Speaker 1: of my search, you know what I mean. It's just like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm looking for things today. Like I kind of always
Speaker 1: had this list of little things of like, oh, I
Speaker 1: wonder if there's a new Dolly parton things here or there,
Speaker 1: and so I would always be like when I'm in
Speaker 1: that mindset, and some days I just wake up and
Speaker 1: I think about it, like when I this machine. That's
Speaker 1: how I got it. I woke up in the morning
Speaker 1: and I was like, I have to look for the
Speaker 1: pinball machine in a minute. And that's because I I
Speaker 1: lost one at auction two months ago and I was
Speaker 1: really upset about it and I just was like, I
Speaker 1: don't want to think about it. I don't want to
Speaker 1: think about it. And I thought it was like I'm
Speaker 1: never going to find one that was that good. And
Speaker 1: then I woke up like three weeks ago and was like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna look And I went on
Speaker 1: eBay and there it was. Yeah, the Dolly party ball
Speaker 1: machine is behind Lydia. We can see it and the
Speaker 1: shot it was on when the meeting the zoom started
Speaker 1: and it's a thing of beauty. It's well well worth it,
Speaker 1: and yeah, you had like people fix it up for
Speaker 1: you and ship. Well it was, it was all fixed up.
Speaker 1: I found I found it on eBay. Then yeah, I
Speaker 1: was on eBay and the machine was all done. It
Speaker 1: had been refurbished and had just been serviced and had
Speaker 1: just gone through like all these things. It had all
Speaker 1: original parts. That was really important to me because I
Speaker 1: found a bunch of them that like have been reboxed
Speaker 1: and they don't have the original cabinet or like they
Speaker 1: have different flippers so they have like a new backplate
Speaker 1: or something. And I really wanted like the nineteen seventy nine,
Speaker 1: like the original version, and I found it and it
Speaker 1: ended up being from this really cool shop in Florida
Speaker 1: that like that's what they do is they just restored
Speaker 1: in balls. They're just like super indopin ball. So I
Speaker 1: really lacked out. It was just like very serendipitous, and
Speaker 1: I offered the guy less than what he had it
Speaker 1: on for eBay and he took it. So I was like, hell, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the best. Yeah, yeah, that was a big deal.
Speaker 1: But yeah, but persistence, man, just like stick to it.
Speaker 1: And you've been on the you've been on the Dolly
Speaker 1: thing since well before the rest of the world figured
Speaker 1: it out. But yeah, I'd like I'd like to say
Speaker 1: that I helped contribute to spreading the good word. I'm
Speaker 1: kind of like the like the Johnny Apple seat of
Speaker 1: Dolly Parton. I feel like I've been talking about it
Speaker 1: for so long and it's so wonderful to see everybody
Speaker 1: catch up and be like, oh, ship, I get it.
Speaker 1: Like more people in the last four years have told
Speaker 1: me I understand why you like Dolly Parton so much,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, you mean you don't think I'm
Speaker 1: psychotic anymore? You get it now? Great? Very cool. She
Speaker 1: seems she's right about everything, down to asking Taco Bell
Speaker 1: to bring back the Meximle pizza like it's for real.
Speaker 1: When I saw that, I was like, Yo, is this
Speaker 1: angel really going to make this happen because I'm tired
Speaker 1: of making these at home? And I was like, I will.
Speaker 1: I don't even no man, I will get if she
Speaker 1: brings it back. I will get a tattoo of a
Speaker 1: Mexican pizza with Dolly Parton on top of said Mexican pizza.
Speaker 1: On my life. That would be the Mexican pizza tattoo
Speaker 1: would be pretty hot. Actually, that'd be that'd be sick.
Speaker 1: I'd like that. I mean, I might, I might, just
Speaker 1: didn't think about that as a yeah, all right, let's
Speaker 1: take a quick break and then we'll come back and
Speaker 1: talk about going back to the office. And we're back.
Speaker 1: And Joe Biden last week during the State of the
Speaker 1: Union said people working from home can feel safe and
Speaker 1: begin to return to their office, and now he's doubled
Speaker 1: down calling for an end to remote work. I think
Speaker 1: that was last week, but I don't know. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: kind of seeing this the sentiment prevent aid like that.
Speaker 1: There was a New York Times piece from yesterday that
Speaker 1: was this person being like, you know, they like the
Speaker 1: vaccine really helped, but none of this other stuff working
Speaker 1: from home and stuff didn't help. Uh. And in fact,
Speaker 1: it caused people to die in more vehicle crashes. And
Speaker 1: like linked off to an article, which would have led
Speaker 1: you to believe that he was linked off to a source,
Speaker 1: but he was linking off to his own article that
Speaker 1: blamed blamed the lockdown for more vehicle crashes. Uh. And
Speaker 1: the only thing in that article was a psych professor
Speaker 1: who was like, we're just angry or now that we're
Speaker 1: locked down, We've talked before about how the more likely
Speaker 1: explanation for the increase in serious car crashes while we
Speaker 1: were locked down is that our roads are horribly designed
Speaker 1: and only work if there's like stop and go traffic
Speaker 1: because cars can't get going fast enough to kill each other.
Speaker 1: But you know, like that that just like sort of
Speaker 1: slow bleed from on high down to like these New
Speaker 1: York Times pieces of just like time to go back
Speaker 1: to the office. We all want to go back to
Speaker 1: the office. It's proof that America want and it just
Speaker 1: really sticks out because all everything like my lived experience,
Speaker 1: and then when you go and actually do the research,
Speaker 1: it seems like people were happier and did better work
Speaker 1: from home, Like it doesn't It doesn't make sense to like,
Speaker 1: I still haven't heard a good reason, and they're wild
Speaker 1: if they think people are going back, like it's not
Speaker 1: going to happen. It's such a strange phenomenon that we're
Speaker 1: seeing people say like, oh, let's return to how things were.
Speaker 1: These were not great beforehand, think back, really try. We
Speaker 1: don't want to go back to the office for a
Speaker 1: ba jillion reasons, but I think predominantly because the work
Speaker 1: life balance for most people is in chaos, and at
Speaker 1: the very least, if you're home you can be with
Speaker 1: or people, you can like run out and pick up
Speaker 1: your kids real quick without a whole bunch of people
Speaker 1: looking over your shoulder like why is she leaving the
Speaker 1: office and what's happening? The number of calls to King
Speaker 1: people in their car trying to run an errand where
Speaker 1: before you have to like take time off work, not
Speaker 1: something a lot of people can do to like run
Speaker 1: to the bank during its open hours to I don't know,
Speaker 1: get alone, or whatever it is you need to do
Speaker 1: to survive. It's it's impossible to think of going back
Speaker 1: to life the way it was before the pandemic. And
Speaker 1: the most interesting thing I heard about, like why this
Speaker 1: push might be happening is because of gas and they're
Speaker 1: worried that people aren't driving enough, and they're like, you've
Speaker 1: gotta buy more oil right now, So back to the office,
Speaker 1: go get your morning commute on, which if true, disgusting, Yeah, disgusting.
Speaker 1: Our planet is dying. It's just it's like a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of compounded things, and the idea that we're just
Speaker 1: going to return to normal, we could not possibly even
Speaker 1: if we wanted to it's wild too, because I think
Speaker 1: I'm mean, I think I agree with you. I think
Speaker 1: it really is like a very bad, bad, bad way
Speaker 1: to be like, yeah, gas, like gas is expensive, we
Speaker 1: need to do this medea to keep supporting this industry.
Speaker 1: But I also think that there's a fear from a
Speaker 1: lot of corporate employers, in particular that there used to
Speaker 1: be pre pandemic sort of this culture and a lot
Speaker 1: of these companies a culture of fear, right like, if
Speaker 1: you are not physically seen doing work and being productive
Speaker 1: and producing, if you're not the first one in and
Speaker 1: the last one out, if you're not always available regardless
Speaker 1: of time, if you're not willing to burn that midnight oil,
Speaker 1: right there's someone else right behind you that's willing to
Speaker 1: do it. And a lot of places really depended upon
Speaker 1: that sort of culture of fear and that culture of
Speaker 1: missing out, and that culture of sort of visibility and
Speaker 1: transparency with you know, if I don't run into the
Speaker 1: boss and the elevator, then like this will never happen,
Speaker 1: you know. And that's what they did to keep people
Speaker 1: employed and also to make them work harder. And now
Speaker 1: that that whole culture has literally been killed, right because
Speaker 1: everyone's been leveled out. People have in their bosses and
Speaker 1: their freaking pajamas, you know what I mean, People are
Speaker 1: having these same struggles. It's really kind of flattened and
Speaker 1: leveled it out. Or you have people that have not
Speaker 1: shown anything and are still in offices even when they
Speaker 1: shouldn't have been because they're so there. There's this discord, right,
Speaker 1: or this you know disconnect now what people are like, Oh,
Speaker 1: my boss is an evil boss, my life has more meaning,
Speaker 1: I could probably be happy or not working. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think it's also about unemployment rates, right, and about
Speaker 1: keeping soldiers in line so that we can you know,
Speaker 1: buy houses, so that we can have extraneous money, so
Speaker 1: that we can also have to buy fashionable clothes because
Speaker 1: now we all wear soft fuzzies, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: And and we're not selling enough our money suits. Like
Speaker 1: it's just there's so many commerce things that are tied
Speaker 1: into this that like, it sickens me a little bit.
Speaker 1: It's silly. You're also seeing a workers revolution, like across
Speaker 1: the United States and across industries as well. It's happening
Speaker 1: in tech, it's happening in factories, Like there is a
Speaker 1: push for workers rights that's occurring in the same way
Speaker 1: that there was a push for black rights and defunding
Speaker 1: the police when we were getting money for free and
Speaker 1: at home and had time to think about these things.
Speaker 1: I think there's very much, probably not consciously, but a
Speaker 1: blowback from that of this is getting out of hand
Speaker 1: and we do not have control, and it's better if
Speaker 1: we go back to the way things were when we
Speaker 1: have that control. Yeah. I think it freed up so
Speaker 1: much time that people like have more time to just
Speaker 1: think about things. I think you guys are dead on.
Speaker 1: I also think there's a big push from America's underrated villain,
Speaker 1: which is really the real estate industry. Like you can
Speaker 1: you can see it in you can see it in
Speaker 1: Biden speech where he says it's time for America to
Speaker 1: get back to work and fill our great town downtowns
Speaker 1: again with people. So like, yeah, he he what he
Speaker 1: wants people to be back in offices and in these
Speaker 1: regions that have been abandoned, and you know the real
Speaker 1: estate is yeah, well you hear somebody works for x
Speaker 1: on and you're like, okay, that that person's fucked up.
Speaker 1: But like you hear people so many people were in
Speaker 1: real estate and It's like real estate is a really
Speaker 1: really industry, Like it's a super shady industry, and it's
Speaker 1: it's based on presentation and lies, it's based on negotiations,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's it's ever flexing. And
Speaker 1: it's wild to think about two because obviously this pandemic
Speaker 1: spurred a huge sort of housing issue, right, you know,
Speaker 1: people losing their homes, not being able to aford their homes.
Speaker 1: But then at the same time, a ton of people
Speaker 1: moving to areas so that they can buy homes and
Speaker 1: driving prices up, you know what I mean. I certainly
Speaker 1: am part of that problem myself. You know, I left
Speaker 1: California and came to Tennessee, where you know, it was
Speaker 1: much cheaper, but at the same time, the prices like
Speaker 1: have Quinn tupled since I've been here. It's ridiculous to
Speaker 1: kind of see that that's happening. It's like, oh, that's
Speaker 1: not enough. So now we have to do it on
Speaker 1: a corporate sector. It has to be impacting them, has
Speaker 1: to be yeah, for sure, And like if you don't
Speaker 1: have people in big, huge offices and people are are
Speaker 1: actually maybe there's companies that are like yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we don't need to be here. Let's fuck this building, like,
Speaker 1: let's all work from home. That's a huge money saver.
Speaker 1: I think it's probably a combination of all these things, right,
Speaker 1: But the one thing we know is that we're not
Speaker 1: getting the truth, Like what do they know about the
Speaker 1: looming there there's this article in Prospect that is just
Speaker 1: like what do they know about the looming collapse of
Speaker 1: central business districts? About the erosion of municipal tax basis?
Speaker 1: Like they there are probably a lot of considerations, many
Speaker 1: of them fucked up, but some of them like probably
Speaker 1: pretty straightforward that they just like aren't mentioning and instead
Speaker 1: they're just like we want to see the beautiful site
Speaker 1: of people in suits walking to subway and then eating
Speaker 1: their lunch at their computer. It's like that that sounds crazy,
Speaker 1: Like you know, like you can't just like say something
Speaker 1: that doesn't make sense to people and just like try
Speaker 1: and paper it over because you're a politician, Like with
Speaker 1: ship does not work anymore? Well, I mean, and that's
Speaker 1: where like we have a responsibility to ourselves, right, Let's
Speaker 1: which is why like you guys have this podcast right
Speaker 1: and we're talking about this ship. Like I think that
Speaker 1: you know, as Americans need to wake the funk up.
Speaker 1: Like our government lies to us, our city governments lie
Speaker 1: to us. Like everything is a means to an end.
Speaker 1: So it is on your responsibility to open your eyes,
Speaker 1: take a look and look for what they're not telling you,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and and figure that out
Speaker 1: and make your plan based on your feelings and what
Speaker 1: you know about that. I always tell people that, like,
Speaker 1: do not believe what your city politicians, your talent politicians,
Speaker 1: your country politicians are telling you. Just yeah, do some reading,
Speaker 1: figure it out. But I mean a lot of the
Speaker 1: a lot of offices are open and people can return.
Speaker 1: They just aren't returning they you know, a survey found
Speaker 1: in January of those working from home could be going
Speaker 1: into work, but they chose not to because it's a
Speaker 1: much better situation and we now have the technology to
Speaker 1: make it like basically loss free. It's a loss list,
Speaker 1: like transition from working next to someone to working from
Speaker 1: home on zoom and you the one thing you lose
Speaker 1: is like these interpersonal conflicts that suck the people like
Speaker 1: you know, like that you just have to be nice
Speaker 1: to each other, Like you can't be a cunt over
Speaker 1: fucking zoom. You know what I mean, Like you really
Speaker 1: got to be hard wired to contitude just to be
Speaker 1: like I'm going to show up to this meeting and
Speaker 1: just be a piece of ship, like and they're afforded,
Speaker 1: Like I'm I would love to get some HR reports
Speaker 1: out of this, and like how much have those interpersonal
Speaker 1: conflicts decreased? And you know what has that freed up
Speaker 1: HR to HR has so many more responsibilities outside of
Speaker 1: just resolving conflict. It would be interesting to see, you know,
Speaker 1: what are the benefits of saying and how much something
Speaker 1: I'm not really I've seen it on a personal level,
Speaker 1: like you know, yes, more time for family, Yes, more
Speaker 1: time for like sleep and self care and all of
Speaker 1: these other things. But from a corporate perspective, what more
Speaker 1: can like the corporations be doing now that they're not
Speaker 1: having to manage the people so directly? And I think
Speaker 1: that that can only be a positive for both sides
Speaker 1: of that conflict, like for both the corporations and the
Speaker 1: people who work for them. Yeah, for sure, HR is
Speaker 1: the real estate agents of Yeah. I don't also very
Speaker 1: hard job, you know, I feel I feel for anybody
Speaker 1: working in HR. I mean, what a time to be
Speaker 1: a middle manager right, this has just gotta be fucking
Speaker 1: the worst and the best where you're just like, man,
Speaker 1: go with God, I don't care like call me never.
Speaker 1: I'm just here. I'm here, I'm just here. Yeah. On
Speaker 1: the list of people who are out of practice being
Speaker 1: around other humans, you can add like bosses because they
Speaker 1: So there's this office in to Aronto with signs that
Speaker 1: like that are welcoming people back, that are like making
Speaker 1: people come back to the office. And they have these
Speaker 1: like signs that are I guess supposed to be funny,
Speaker 1: and they one is like a photograph of sweatpants and
Speaker 1: says miss your sweatpants yet. And then then there's one this,
Speaker 1: this one is the most confounding to me. Bet your
Speaker 1: dogs missing you And it's a picture of a said yeah, motherfucker,
Speaker 1: that is exactly true, exactly why I didn't want to
Speaker 1: come back. What that is? So if that really bothered
Speaker 1: me because it's so indicative of like we're taking joy
Speaker 1: and you being uncomfortable and you being away from there
Speaker 1: bringing you peace and calm. It's not the humanization. What
Speaker 1: could possibly be welcoming about going back to being forced
Speaker 1: back to an office when you know, when you know
Speaker 1: you could do your job from home. I don't understand, like,
Speaker 1: if we're all connect it, if more work is being
Speaker 1: done and I can take care of things at home
Speaker 1: and work on my relationships outside of the office without
Speaker 1: sacrificing any of the work I do, how could you
Speaker 1: possibly welcome you back to an office, Because basically it
Speaker 1: feels like going back to school when they're like you
Speaker 1: gotta be in this classroom, you got to raise your
Speaker 1: hand to go to the bathroom, all these ways we
Speaker 1: sort of used to control kids very early. It's like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to bring that further into my adult life.
Speaker 1: I feel like we're good, we know how to work,
Speaker 1: not turn things in, and if there's a problem that
Speaker 1: will also be made abundantly clear. There's no reason to
Speaker 1: go back to a brick and mortar. It's also the
Speaker 1: you know, the thing we've talked about. There's this essay
Speaker 1: that was turned into a book by David Graber and
Speaker 1: it's called Bullshit Jobs, and it's just a survey of
Speaker 1: all the jobs in America, and like the UK, it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: half of these don't need to exist, Like a lot
Speaker 1: of these are just like moving shit around, like pushing
Speaker 1: people around, and creating chaos. And the people who mostly
Speaker 1: don't need to exist a lot of the time are
Speaker 1: those middle managers and the people who are like in
Speaker 1: those meetings when they determined ship, like, we got to
Speaker 1: bring everybody back so we can, you know, make them
Speaker 1: cringe with our terrible senses of humor. Yes, yes, here
Speaker 1: we go. Okay. So once I was working for a
Speaker 1: delivery company. I might be in the ad, so I
Speaker 1: won't say their name. It was early in that company's existence,
Speaker 1: maybe three or four years, but they were doing well.
Speaker 1: They were about to go public. So of course what
Speaker 1: do they do. They hire a team to come in
Speaker 1: and ask how can we be more efficient? Suddenly my
Speaker 1: very cool job. Or people whould like chain smoke at
Speaker 1: their desks with vapes. We would watch I had Netflix
Speaker 1: on the whole time, you know, just pop on a
Speaker 1: phone call, pause whatever show I'm binging. I watched a
Speaker 1: lot of Disney's Robin Hood back in the day. Some
Speaker 1: girl would just play sims the whole time and look,
Speaker 1: it's Sal's like, how are these people getting anything done?
Speaker 1: But what was interesting to me our numbers did not
Speaker 1: go up afterwards. There was no change in performance, and
Speaker 1: we were just comfortable, and they really hated that. They
Speaker 1: were like, look at they're doing something that isn't a
Speaker 1: hundred percent where it's like I'm waiting for a call
Speaker 1: to come. I don't do anything but wait for my
Speaker 1: little screen to light up. And then I clicked the call,
Speaker 1: and then I helped them out, and then I go
Speaker 1: back to doing whatever. And I think there's this very
Speaker 1: like old school idea of and and to that old
Speaker 1: school's point, you used to work like working to six
Speaker 1: or seven was late, but oh my gosh, you say
Speaker 1: two extra hours at work. I think in nine to
Speaker 1: five they were saying like twice a week, I have
Speaker 1: to stay up until like seven, and I have to
Speaker 1: get my kids dinner. And all of a sudden, people
Speaker 1: don't have time to cook their children dinner. They're like
Speaker 1: pizza five dollars go each. I have more work to
Speaker 1: do once we get home. So it doesn't make sense
Speaker 1: to tell people like you must work around the clock
Speaker 1: and also no creature comforts. It's not tenable. And I
Speaker 1: obviously if they gets my workers are like, listen, I'll
Speaker 1: just stay at home. It's fine, not come back. You
Speaker 1: know what's not compatible with efficiency The death of the
Speaker 1: human soul. It feels, are not efficient workers when their
Speaker 1: soul is being ground out of their fucking bodies. One
Speaker 1: I agree with to you manage's why I think, like again,
Speaker 1: take some personal accountability, Like if you I just think
Speaker 1: it would be awesome and be like, sure, I'll come back,
Speaker 1: but then just roll in just as you've been at home,
Speaker 1: Like just come in your sweats, bring that dog, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like bring you a little plug
Speaker 1: in heat, or like get rid of that office chair,
Speaker 1: put the bean bag in there, get yourself a little
Speaker 1: i kea sofa, just go focus stanza, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, and just completely renovate your office into like
Speaker 1: a creature comfort layer and be like, I'm legit doing
Speaker 1: my work, but I'm not doing it unless I'm comfortable.
Speaker 1: Like that's just it just a vehement fight back on
Speaker 1: comfort level. That seems fair unless you got a job
Speaker 1: where you like, you know, I don't want my doctor
Speaker 1: to come in and sweats. That's a little concerning. Uh,
Speaker 1: my lawyer can be more comfort than a suit and tie.
Speaker 1: But you know, figure it somewhere scruws their sweats. Yeah.
Speaker 1: A little secret about doctors. They are the one profession
Speaker 1: that gets away with wearing sweats. Nonstock scrubs are the
Speaker 1: most comfortable fucking clothes they're designed to be. I'm sure
Speaker 1: there's another reason they get to wear that, but holy
Speaker 1: sh it, those are so comfortable. And yeah, they, like
Speaker 1: every other profession, is fucking stupid for not having designed
Speaker 1: a uniform that everybody just associates with that profession. Like
Speaker 1: if lawyers were as smart as they claim they are,
Speaker 1: they would be in like baggy onesies. That would be
Speaker 1: the would be I thought I thought you were gonna
Speaker 1: say they'd all be dressed in foghorn like hoorn costumes. Amazing,
Speaker 1: not comfortable, but hilarious. Yeah. I do like the idea
Speaker 1: of like needing to have a dedicated, like a dedicated
Speaker 1: uniform to your your job. I think that's just awesome.
Speaker 1: Like mechanics coveralls, you know what's going on, plumber pants
Speaker 1: that don't fit, you know what I mean, Like everybody
Speaker 1: everybody knows you do. You're like, oh, that guy's for
Speaker 1: sure plumber you know, construction heads. Yeah, man, let's get
Speaker 1: some Let's get some uniforms, right, you have to worry
Speaker 1: about what you doing. I like that podcast Industry Unite.
Speaker 1: Let's let's figure out what the podcast uniform is. It's
Speaker 1: just whatever free clothes you guys are advertising. If if
Speaker 1: it's only socks, then you just gotta make your whole
Speaker 1: off just bomba socks and like, yeah, that's gonna fast. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I like the idea of just branded hoodies
Speaker 1: and that's it. We need to know which podcast you're
Speaker 1: working on at all times. You work on a new
Speaker 1: one today, switch hoodies. Actually that's maybe you guys could
Speaker 1: kind of be like race cars. You know how race
Speaker 1: cars are just covered in logos that they're paid for.
Speaker 1: The car should be that, but a hoodie or like,
Speaker 1: and it's just that's it. That's what you wear. It's
Speaker 1: just all of the current logos people pay for ads
Speaker 1: your mind. I swear to God, yes, yes, I need
Speaker 1: a NASCAR style hoodie with all my shows on it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then you guy should also cruel. People already do
Speaker 1: that with their like email signatures, with like every logo
Speaker 1: and it starts to like look like you're in the navy,
Speaker 1: like with all the decorations. I feel like a sweatshirt
Speaker 1: that looked like that would be pretty dope. All right,
Speaker 1: let's take a break and we'll come back and talk
Speaker 1: about why the past twenty years of movies is not
Speaker 1: horny enough, and we're back and yeah. I actually I
Speaker 1: heard this article mentioned on John Gabriel's podcast Action Boys
Speaker 1: and immediately was like, all right, I'm gonna go read
Speaker 1: that article and then I want to talk to Joel
Speaker 1: Monique about this the next time the next time she
Speaker 1: is on. It's just a good, like sort of meta
Speaker 1: analysis of movies of the past twenty years. That's like,
Speaker 1: you know, like as recently as the eighties and nineties,
Speaker 1: like people were horny in movie, like movie cultures were horny,
Speaker 1: and now as like the human body has like the
Speaker 1: human body as it appears in movies has been like
Speaker 1: whittled down into this like thing that requires you know,
Speaker 1: engineering from like a full time chef and trainer and
Speaker 1: steroids steroid bartender. I don't know, like as the bodies
Speaker 1: have gotten more like traditionally like beautiful, the people have
Speaker 1: just gotten less horny, like people like the movie characters
Speaker 1: are just I don't know, like it really made sense
Speaker 1: to me in the article when the author was talking
Speaker 1: about Christopher Nola movies. I've always noticed as about Christopher
Speaker 1: Nolan movies, there's not a like like I said, of Top,
Speaker 1: there's not a drop of sex and any of the
Speaker 1: dreams of inception. But like it's not just like it's
Speaker 1: not just Christopher Nolan movies like we didn't. I didn't
Speaker 1: even I was not like that movie is fucking weird,
Speaker 1: Like that's a that's a movie about dreams, and like
Speaker 1: nobody it's like a world in which sex doesn't exist,
Speaker 1: and we just like, yeah, I don't know, and then
Speaker 1: I mean it's true, Like the the Dark Knight Rises
Speaker 1: sex scene between Christian Bale and Marianne Courtyard is like
Speaker 1: I think the low point of his movies and maybe
Speaker 1: all movies. It's just it does like so drab and
Speaker 1: unbelievable and just like plot mechanical, it sucks, but you
Speaker 1: know the The author also points out, like all the
Speaker 1: Marvel movies like pepper Pots and Tony Stark, but those
Speaker 1: people aren't fucking you can just look at that and
Speaker 1: be like those people, what are you talking about? Even
Speaker 1: Wonder Woman and Steve Trevor. The entire second movie is
Speaker 1: based on her wanting to take Does she take over
Speaker 1: a person in a coma's body or he takes over
Speaker 1: she takes over a person in a coma's body to
Speaker 1: bring this person back to life, and they have clearly
Speaker 1: like just it's like they've not heard of sex, let
Speaker 1: alone like wanted to have it with one another. There's
Speaker 1: no time for sex when you're saving the world, Jack
Speaker 1: Orties and that. Okay, So I have so many thoughts
Speaker 1: on a direct candent from what we were just talking about,
Speaker 1: the idea that movies are so focused on end of
Speaker 1: the world scenarios. I think that we've been scared out
Speaker 1: of sex. They're just like there's no time. Like Christopher
Speaker 1: Nolan isn't even interested in love. Even an inception which
Speaker 1: is supposed to be about a guy getting back to
Speaker 1: this woman that he lost, you know, it's falling deeper
Speaker 1: into his dreams to get to it's more a figment
Speaker 1: of his imagination than an actual person he's trying to
Speaker 1: get back to. All we ever see of her is
Speaker 1: like her with the kids. She's very beautiful, she's off
Speaker 1: in the distance. They don't even show her face. We
Speaker 1: don't know even about her. It it's really more of
Speaker 1: a representation of that's where he feels safe. It's about him.
Speaker 1: It's not even about getting to her so that he
Speaker 1: can love her right like the way that they may,
Speaker 1: or at least that's what I got from it. I
Speaker 1: was just like, so, this has nothing to do with her.
Speaker 1: This has everything to do with him needing to have
Speaker 1: the things that he thinks that he needs. Where he
Speaker 1: was the way he wanted to be. It could have
Speaker 1: been his favorite armchair. The Yeah, that would have been
Speaker 1: amazing if it was just his favorite arm chair. But
Speaker 1: he likes to sit in like that's what he's fantasizing
Speaker 1: about the whole time. Damn, my lazy boy. But in
Speaker 1: the Dark Knight trilogy, both the most evil and exciting
Speaker 1: but like evil character of the trilogy is the only
Speaker 1: character with any sexual energy, and he's Ledger's joker, Like
Speaker 1: he's the only character that you're like, Okay, this guy
Speaker 1: is like fucked up, but he clearly like has some
Speaker 1: sort of like sexual urges, whereas everybody else is completely
Speaker 1: removed from that. It's happening on such a large I
Speaker 1: think part of it is like a purification of our country,
Speaker 1: where we really like we we had a very large
Speaker 1: swift at least in my childhood, this idea of like
Speaker 1: protect the children. They can see like don't talk to
Speaker 1: them about sex. Okay, we're gonna go back to abstinence training,
Speaker 1: like we avoid it. And then because of that, then
Speaker 1: you had this movement of the m p a A,
Speaker 1: which rates movies being a lot more stringent on how
Speaker 1: they were going to rate, and the theater industry or
Speaker 1: the movie making industry followed that and said, okay, well,
Speaker 1: we'll just focus really hard on PG thirteen movies. You'll
Speaker 1: get your f bombs. A guy will definitely kill someone
Speaker 1: in a horrifying way, but they won't have sex and
Speaker 1: it will be fine. People will be okay with that.
Speaker 1: I mean, we used to be a proper country. You
Speaker 1: remember when we had like erotic thrillers. They're just everywhere,
Speaker 1: and they were so good and so like steamy and
Speaker 1: fun and mysterious, and someone died, but in the end,
Speaker 1: the hot person usually got away. And that's what really
Speaker 1: mad dude, and I sort of missed these days of like,
Speaker 1: give me a basic instinct, a fatal attraction, if you will,
Speaker 1: I'll even take like a crush. You know. I just
Speaker 1: feel like as we embrace more violence and and and
Speaker 1: more brotherhood and friendship, we just aren't really interested in
Speaker 1: romantic relationships unless they're devastating your lifetime. Super they have cancer,
Speaker 1: they can't remember each other, they their families don't want
Speaker 1: them to be together. There's an entire war between that's
Speaker 1: what we're giving and our love movies or they're silly
Speaker 1: beyond belief. We don't even have good romantic comedies anymore.
Speaker 1: Fight me. I just feel like there's we're not interested
Speaker 1: in in expressing love in our films anymore. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think it's really interesting time in general. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: something I think about a lot when we think about
Speaker 1: the quality of relationships that are presented, you know. And
Speaker 1: and I'm somebody that I don't really even like rom
Speaker 1: Kong movies because I feel like they're so ridiculous and
Speaker 1: they're so out of touch with what life is truly
Speaker 1: like when you're actually in a relationship. But it's weird
Speaker 1: because we live in this country where we are supposed
Speaker 1: to be exceedingly hot, right, and we see this reflected,
Speaker 1: you know, Jack, as you were saying, movies, right, people
Speaker 1: are these chiseled sort of beautiful you know, or you know,
Speaker 1: the ideas of what society wants to think is a
Speaker 1: beautiful body. Right. But then there's also the other side
Speaker 1: of that is that you either are beautiful and non
Speaker 1: sexual or you are sexual and not traditionally hot. I
Speaker 1: feel like those are the only two kind of like
Speaker 1: routes that we kind of want to see that And
Speaker 1: now that we're seeing people really talk a lot more
Speaker 1: about gender sort of being a construct, right, and we're
Speaker 1: moving towards recognizing and sort of accepting that there are
Speaker 1: people who are none non binary, who don't necessarily you know,
Speaker 1: sit in either gender, you know, or people who don't
Speaker 1: identify even sexually. Right, like this a sexuality kind of
Speaker 1: becomes a thing, and it's really weird because it makes
Speaker 1: me think, like, are we gonna see stuff continue down
Speaker 1: this road where people don't even want to touch the
Speaker 1: sex because it gets too close to gender and they're
Speaker 1: too worried about putting people off, you know, and not
Speaker 1: representing that. I mean, it's already sad that we don't
Speaker 1: see enough homosexual love stories, right, and then we do
Speaker 1: see them, it's usually like chittered and chattered about, and
Speaker 1: it's like this taboo thing that happens, you know, it's
Speaker 1: like a brokeback Mountain situation, like oh my god, you know,
Speaker 1: or it's like blue is the warmest color, Like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, there's lesbian sex in that one, and it
Speaker 1: becomes this like dirty thing. And I don't understand because America,
Speaker 1: it's like we want our teenagers to be hot, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like we're we're we have movies
Speaker 1: that are to be teenagers and we're casting thirty five
Speaker 1: year old women, you know what I mean. Where it's
Speaker 1: like that girl is thirty five and they're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: well that's so we can see her fucking not feel
Speaker 1: bad about it. And it's like, why do we need
Speaker 1: to see kids? Fuck? What is happening? Like we're we're
Speaker 1: all fucked up about sex in the United States. I
Speaker 1: think we have a really shitty relationship with our bodies
Speaker 1: and with who can have sex and who can't have
Speaker 1: sex instead of just accepting that, like there's jen under
Speaker 1: and then there's sex and they don't necessarily go together,
Speaker 1: and then you don't have to be hot in order
Speaker 1: that for it to be a thing, right, Like you
Speaker 1: don't have to be hot enough to fuck, Like I
Speaker 1: just I hate that concept of it, you know, or
Speaker 1: like you said, it has to be tragic Joel, right,
Speaker 1: where it's like, oh, this tragedy happened. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: like this is so sad, where it's like, all right,
Speaker 1: so we have to be talking about either a devastating
Speaker 1: relationship or we have to be talking about rape in
Speaker 1: order for us to be able to comfortable exploring a
Speaker 1: sex scene. Because that's the other thing that I hate
Speaker 1: is where it's like, we won't see sex unless it's
Speaker 1: a it's a rape, unless it's a violent crime that's happening,
Speaker 1: and you know, and then it's okay because it's contextual
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh so in order for to feed
Speaker 1: me sex, it needs to be violent. What are we doing?
Speaker 1: This film is not yet rated. A movie from two
Speaker 1: thousand six, a documentary about the m p A process
Speaker 1: and like their standards and what they give our ratings
Speaker 1: and n C seventeen ratings, what they will and won't
Speaker 1: allow to be showed on camera is like as close
Speaker 1: demandage reviewing as as possible for a listener to this podcast,
Speaker 1: like y'all need to watch it if you haven't. But
Speaker 1: they talk about the thing that the ratings board really
Speaker 1: objects to is women experiencing sexual pleasure. Oh yeah, it's
Speaker 1: not nudity, it's women like they are terrified of women
Speaker 1: experiencing sexual pleasure. A movie will show a rape scene
Speaker 1: and then that that will get an R. But if
Speaker 1: a woman is shown like having an orgasm, that is
Speaker 1: that will get you an n C seventeen. They'll always
Speaker 1: cut right before she hits climax, right like you could
Speaker 1: see her being penetrated and starting to enjoy, and then
Speaker 1: they'll be like, and that's the end. You can better
Speaker 1: get out of here. That women can actually orgasm, that
Speaker 1: would be a problem. She's a witch. We can't show it.
Speaker 1: But fascism. So the this essay, which is really good,
Speaker 1: I highly recommend people will link off to it. But
Speaker 1: it opens with a description of Starship Troopers the shower scene,
Speaker 1: which is, you know, all of these like sculpted soldiers
Speaker 1: showering together because they're part of this like military battalion.
Speaker 1: But the the whole undercurrent of that movie is fascism.
Speaker 1: And that's like a thing that's been remarked about repeatedly
Speaker 1: about fascist cultures and just the ideology of fascism is
Speaker 1: it's all about like beautiful, efficient bodies, but like completely
Speaker 1: removed from sex and like completely taken out of the
Speaker 1: context of sex. And so so that movie was like
Speaker 1: making a commentary back and it, you know, presage a
Speaker 1: lot of things, but I think that's one of them,
Speaker 1: that like just this idea that like bodies would be
Speaker 1: taken more in this direction of not not really like functional.
Speaker 1: They're not like we were trying to remove the function
Speaker 1: and just make them pleasing and pleasing to look at,
Speaker 1: but like we don't we we don't let them have
Speaker 1: the horny nous that that is like so deeply human.
Speaker 1: You know, they're there for your visual consumption, for the
Speaker 1: audience to ogle and be like, wow, isn't that a
Speaker 1: perfect body? But there's again no internal desires. Even when
Speaker 1: we had our first Marvel sex scene in The Eternals,
Speaker 1: which really kicked off a conversation about secklessness and heroic
Speaker 1: movies in the superhero Cape and calam movies. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you saw the movie, it is the most bland,
Speaker 1: non interesting sex. It is boring, and there's no The Eternals.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah. First of all, not a great movie.
Speaker 1: I feel like I've talked that to death of why
Speaker 1: I don't like it. Don't tell me about all your
Speaker 1: epic stories, just please show me. But the other idea
Speaker 1: of these two care if we're supposed to have this
Speaker 1: great romance across thousands of eons and like always coming
Speaker 1: back together. And when you see them together, you're like, girl,
Speaker 1: get out, he's abusive. The whole time, You're just like,
Speaker 1: this man is not quite right. He's a little obsessed
Speaker 1: with you in a very unhealthy way. You just seem
Speaker 1: like a sweet, innocent person. Please remove yourself. And then
Speaker 1: when they are together, there isn't that the actors are
Speaker 1: trying to perform longing. It's staged so that it's supposed
Speaker 1: to be there, but it never connects or leaps off
Speaker 1: the screen. And it's because it's it's a Disney film.
Speaker 1: Disney's never going to allow you to truly invest in
Speaker 1: what it means to be like in a committed sexual relationship.
Speaker 1: That's not You are parents serving other people, You are
Speaker 1: doomed lovers. You are not ever happy and really enjoying
Speaker 1: yourself when they had every reason to be. It's and
Speaker 1: it's weird to me that we're continuing to get that
Speaker 1: in spaces where the studio could go there. It makes
Speaker 1: sense to me that Disney is like, that's not really
Speaker 1: what we're interested in. We are very strictly a family space.
Speaker 1: But Warner Brothers, y'all, you've got so much space and
Speaker 1: time just to bring out the fucking you could do it.
Speaker 1: It's not going to be a problem. Your audience is
Speaker 1: going to stay here for it. But I want I
Speaker 1: do think that a lot of people are afraid of
Speaker 1: slipping into that our category because even when you have
Speaker 1: movies like Deadpool, which does have a lot of sex
Speaker 1: and actually for some pretty good fun sex scenes in there,
Speaker 1: it didn't do the same kind of numbers that I
Speaker 1: think a studio hopes to hit every time they release
Speaker 1: a superhero movie. Did well, They're going to keep releasing
Speaker 1: dead Pool movies. But that our rating, it does have
Speaker 1: a It makes a difference. I think they try to
Speaker 1: go PT. Thirteen on movie too, I remember correctly and
Speaker 1: the best. So this article is kind of written in
Speaker 1: the context of maybe the Batman will save us from
Speaker 1: this trend, and I don't hope there there's no like
Speaker 1: overt sex scene, but I have read people say like
Speaker 1: it's the characters are clearly horny and like there's a
Speaker 1: like undercurrent of sexuality, at least as compared to previous
Speaker 1: Batman Zee Kravitz is absolutely horny for Batman. Batman has
Speaker 1: never had sex ever. This this version of Batman not
Speaker 1: fucking Man's just sad too, Like I mean, Batman has
Speaker 1: never been like the horny character for me. Like he's
Speaker 1: just such a sad boy, you know what It's like.
Speaker 1: He just seems to the kind of guy you'd fun
Speaker 1: and then he'd cry after and he'd be like, God,
Speaker 1: now I have to stay, like I can't leave, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Michael Keaton Batman did fuck and
Speaker 1: that was the only one that was like maybe because
Speaker 1: he had nipples. I would pay good money and I'm
Speaker 1: talking good money to see fat Thor fu somebody, everybody
Speaker 1: all things like when they had fat Thor. That really
Speaker 1: did it for me. I was just like, what's up?
Speaker 1: I like that that little belly. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: really was definitely hot. I'm into it. The writer points
Speaker 1: out like in Greek myths, Thor is like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, talks everyone. And in the Thor movies, like
Speaker 1: the first one is basically a you know wrong. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's like a very strong like lead actress in Natalie Portman,
Speaker 1: and he just like looks at her like a fucking
Speaker 1: you know, dumb puppy and just like grins at her.
Speaker 1: And it's like movies are supposed to be our Greek myths,
Speaker 1: or at least in my opinion, like that's that's what
Speaker 1: reveals things about our inner lives and values and wishes
Speaker 1: and dreams. Is like the movies that we're into. But
Speaker 1: for some reason, like in the transition from like ancient
Speaker 1: Greece to today, we're like, get the sex out of there,
Speaker 1: We none of that. Bring back the fun hammer, ah
Speaker 1: you have. Anything I think might have happened in just
Speaker 1: the last decade is after like a little bit before
Speaker 1: Me Too, and for sure afterwards there's been this strange
Speaker 1: backlash of people being like, well, now just no sex.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you guys remember immediately after Me Too,
Speaker 1: there were a bunch of men who are like, well,
Speaker 1: maybe I just want to hire women because I don't
Speaker 1: want to deal with this, which is I mean, it
Speaker 1: literally floored me. But at the same time, I think
Speaker 1: we're seeing a lot of especially big movie production studios,
Speaker 1: taking a step away from having sex scenes, and the
Speaker 1: smaller productions that are continuing to you know, if they
Speaker 1: want to have sex scenes or if they have a
Speaker 1: rape scene, like they're bringing in counselors and and people
Speaker 1: who can sort of guide or set up a scene
Speaker 1: so that actors can feel safe and comfortable, which I
Speaker 1: think is a great thing, and I think we should
Speaker 1: continue to do moving forward, because the one disturbing thing
Speaker 1: about if you look at older films that have sex
Speaker 1: scenes is like sometimes so scenes were surprises to the actresses,
Speaker 1: which is a horrifying thought. A lot of times if
Speaker 1: there is an actress involved, she is the only woman
Speaker 1: on set that day, which is a horrifying thought. Like
Speaker 1: there's a lot of I think in our New World
Speaker 1: discussions about how do we do this in a way
Speaker 1: that makes performers makes the actually i'm gonna say feel safe,
Speaker 1: but where they're actually safe, where we're making sure that
Speaker 1: they don't leave us set with like mental and emotional scars,
Speaker 1: because that's we're just making art. You shouldn't leave with
Speaker 1: a mental and emotional scars. It's a tough thing to do.
Speaker 1: But in like adjacent to that, I think, you know,
Speaker 1: Barry Jenkins recently did an entire mini series about slavery
Speaker 1: and and he had to have a therapist on set
Speaker 1: the whole time because we have people like we're visiting
Speaker 1: these historic spaces, you know, it can be triggering and traumatizing,
Speaker 1: And I don't know. I just think it's like there's
Speaker 1: a lot of reasons for why Hollywood at this point
Speaker 1: is like, how are we going to do this, how
Speaker 1: we're gonna be judged, How do we sure the actors
Speaker 1: feel safe? How do we make sure that we don't
Speaker 1: get a rating that makes it impossible for our movie
Speaker 1: to do the kind of sales we needed to do.
Speaker 1: I do hope that we're seeing a surgeon. Indeed, films
Speaker 1: where these things are maybe not so taboo and smaller
Speaker 1: cast and crews tend to have better rapport overall. So
Speaker 1: I don't know. I do think what one last sort
Speaker 1: of possible explanation is that, like, it seems like a
Speaker 1: lot of the trend is happening at the same time
Speaker 1: as the explosion of internet porn, and I feel like
Speaker 1: maybe like it could be just that, like people are like, well,
Speaker 1: now we have a different place to go for that,
Speaker 1: but that's bad, because uh, internet porn is a horrible
Speaker 1: place to learn about sex. Not saying movies are great,
Speaker 1: but at least there's like a artistic vision that is
Speaker 1: trying to depict something that is realistic and like say
Speaker 1: something about it, usually as opposed to you know, a
Speaker 1: lot of porn is really misleading and violent and not
Speaker 1: not leading people down. Again, so you're saying that gaping
Speaker 1: and throbbing aren't realistic words for a loving sexual like
Speaker 1: the thing that that should haunts me. Whenever I see
Speaker 1: that word, I'm just like, like, I just want to
Speaker 1: like drop the keyboard. I'm like, I shouldn't been here.
Speaker 1: This is gross. I'm sorry. I'm like apologizing to like
Speaker 1: the ghosts of my ancestors and they're just like, what
Speaker 1: are you looking at. I'm like, I'm sorry, I didn't
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Oh god, you test the limits of your
Speaker 1: own ship there, man, whatever happened? And that I just
Speaker 1: want to see regular old actors who looked good and
Speaker 1: worked out in eight fucking boiled chicken breast for a month,
Speaker 1: fuck or pretend to fuck, put on stockings and rub
Speaker 1: against each other, you know exactly. The writer's like, well,
Speaker 1: hopefully this is going to change because they cast Robert
Speaker 1: Pattinson as Batman, and you know, he's a sexual being
Speaker 1: on film, and the evidence that he has sexual being
Speaker 1: on film is that he has masturbated in his last
Speaker 1: four films, which feels kind of appropriate for our modern
Speaker 1: world that that is, like, what what some sexual person?
Speaker 1: It's just masturbating to a to a mermaid icon carved
Speaker 1: out of whalebone, which, by the way, Joe, I did
Speaker 1: watch WAT and I loved it. Yeah, thank you so
Speaker 1: much for that recommendation. All right, well, Lydia, such a
Speaker 1: pleasure having you on TDZ as always? Where can people
Speaker 1: find you? Follow you all that good stuff? Sure, you
Speaker 1: can follow me on social media on Instagram and Twitter
Speaker 1: at hater Tuesday. You can go to my website Lydia
Speaker 1: popovitch dot com. Uh, those are those are good places
Speaker 1: to find me. Yeah, for sure. If you're in Tennessee,
Speaker 1: I will be at the Boat Hotel on St. Patrick's
Speaker 1: Day down in Nashville. It's just be a little fun,
Speaker 1: little comedy show. You can come by there, and then
Speaker 1: I'll be at the Punchline in San Francisco in June two. Yeah. Nice.
Speaker 1: What's a tweet you've been enjoying? Oh? I have one,
Speaker 1: I have one hold on let me pull it up.
Speaker 1: So it's not a funny tweet, it's it's not a joke. Tweet.
Speaker 1: It's just a sear tweet. So this week was International
Speaker 1: Women's Day was on Tuesday, right, uh, And I am
Speaker 1: a big proponent of supporting other women in general. I
Speaker 1: think it's very important and I love supporting women who
Speaker 1: are in technical fields. And because I'm still so excited
Speaker 1: about my Dolly parton pinball Machine, I wanted to give
Speaker 1: a shout out to at Lauren Coogliotta. It's l a
Speaker 1: u r e n c U g l i O
Speaker 1: t t A. She is a pinball technician based out
Speaker 1: of Jupiter, Florida, and she is one of the people
Speaker 1: that was on the team that helped put my machine together.
Speaker 1: But she has a really cool Twitter that she's just
Speaker 1: getting going and it's her basically walking you through like
Speaker 1: how she repairs vintage machines and she puts all these
Speaker 1: little cool videos and I just think it's super cool
Speaker 1: that she is following her dreams and she is persisting
Speaker 1: and she is learning how to be a pinball technician.
Speaker 1: So follow her. Check it out if you're into pinball,
Speaker 1: and uh, yeah, support women in technical fields. Let's go Lauren,
Speaker 1: Let's do it. Awesome. Joel, where can people find you?
Speaker 1: What is the tweet you've been enjoying. Yeah, you can
Speaker 1: find me all over the internet at Jeel Monique. That's
Speaker 1: j O E L E E m O n i
Speaker 1: Q you eat today. In response to Bob Chapick, when
Speaker 1: you CEO of Disney's decisions to fun, they don't say
Speaker 1: gay Bill in Florida, Josh Beams at Beams Underscore, Josh
Speaker 1: tweeted a threat of LGBTQ creatives who have brought massive
Speaker 1: success to the Disney Company as a giant fuck you
Speaker 1: to this douche bag. I am so frustrated at the
Speaker 1: idea of a company that has taken millions of gay dollars,
Speaker 1: who has a bunch of queer workers who are incredible
Speaker 1: human beings who like work really, really tirelessly to bring
Speaker 1: these stories to life and and manage parks and any
Speaker 1: job Disney has, whatever job Disney has on their fire force, whatever.
Speaker 1: But now they're hard work and the dollars sheeple have
Speaker 1: spent could be going to shaming queer children, which we
Speaker 1: know leads to death. So fuck you, Bob, and um
Speaker 1: go check out Beams Underscore Josh's list of fantastic queer
Speaker 1: creators and on a lighter note create along word four
Speaker 1: hours ago the amazing podcaster she does. You must remember
Speaker 1: this pod. You can find her at Remember this pod
Speaker 1: just announced it in three weeks. The new season is
Speaker 1: going to be about erotic eighties movies, so time you
Speaker 1: can get your whole life with amazing it does even
Speaker 1: like the article, even just like points out and Poulter Guist,
Speaker 1: like the there's a scene where the parents like get
Speaker 1: ready to fuck, like the mom's smoke and weed, the
Speaker 1: dad's a little drunk, and you can tell, oh, these
Speaker 1: are like real human beings who have sex with each other.
Speaker 1: Like that's that's how that's a recognizable human sex went
Speaker 1: to TV. I'm guessing Poulter guyst won't be the movie
Speaker 1: that is covered in a series of erotic these movies,
Speaker 1: but like I mean, it's just like even down to
Speaker 1: like complete movies. We don't think of the xerotic like
Speaker 1: in the Analyst bit. Also, I'm pronouncing erotic erotic. That's
Speaker 1: how that's how little eroticism there is in other movies.
Speaker 1: I forgot how to pronounce it. I look forward to
Speaker 1: hearing her takes on Porky's one through three. Alright, uh
Speaker 1: tweet I've been enjoying. Joe Rumrill tweeted at a job
Speaker 1: interview to be a lifeguard. Really trying to nail it. Sorry,
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Speaker 1: song that we think you might enjoy. And uh, you
Speaker 1: know what, Miles isn't around. Sometimes we like to ask
Speaker 1: super producer Justin what song he thinks our listeners should
Speaker 1: go listen to? Justin? Do you have do you have
Speaker 1: a recommendation? Sort? Yeah, Today I want y'all to check
Speaker 1: out a song called Galaxy Surfing by a group of
Speaker 1: young musicians, very talented. Uh, I think it's just a duo.
Speaker 1: They're called jaddu Heart. I'm not sure if I'm pronouncing
Speaker 1: that correctly. It's j A d U h E A
Speaker 1: r T. This song is very, very relaxing. It really.
Speaker 1: I mean, the title tells you everything you need to
Speaker 1: know about it. If you want to feel like you're
Speaker 1: drifting away amongst the stars, just looking at beautiful visions
Speaker 1: and you want to just melt away for a little bit,
Speaker 1: you can check out this track Galaxy Surfing by Jaddy
Speaker 1: Heart and it will be in the footmos. Is that
Speaker 1: where you're describing dying right there? Sure? Visions of stars
Speaker 1: and it's the human soul dying. It's it's the corporation
Speaker 1: just killing your soul. But it's a it's a good death.
Speaker 1: It's a happy day, a warrior's death, the happy death
Speaker 1: of having your soul escape your body because of one
Speaker 1: too many trust falls. All right, Well, The Daily is
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