Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to twenty eight,
Speaker 1: episode five of Dirt Daily. Like guys, yah, it's a
Speaker 1: production of by Heart Radio. This is a podcast where
Speaker 1: we take a deep dive into American's share consciousness. And
Speaker 1: it is Friday, March eight teens. National Irish people are
Speaker 1: probably hungover right now. Yeah, it's actual National Sloppy Joe
Speaker 1: Day and National Awkward Moments Day. So yeah, celebrate that.
Speaker 1: I think you could do that eating the Sloppy Joe
Speaker 1: a date. Are you all enough that when you hear
Speaker 1: sloppy Joe it immediately goes to that sketch? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: come on, I'm sucking nineties brains. Yeah all right? Well
Speaker 1: hap oh question, did you ever did you grow up
Speaker 1: eating sloppy Jones? Was that everything that your family? Yeah? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: because I remember again, immigrant household, black dad, who was
Speaker 1: you know, probably like at work or something, asking my
Speaker 1: mom for Sloppy Jo. She was like, what is like,
Speaker 1: I remember being a kid and like asking her for it,
Speaker 1: as if she was supposed to know what the funk
Speaker 1: I was talking about. I'm like, y'all want sloppy Joe.
Speaker 1: She's like, I don't the funk that is I don't
Speaker 1: know what the words are came out of your face. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I had to go to school as my white friends.
Speaker 1: I said, Okay, how do you do it? And they said,
Speaker 1: I don't know. My mom gets the packet at the
Speaker 1: grocery store. So then I said, we gotta get the
Speaker 1: packet at the grocery store. And the second my mom
Speaker 1: just sort of saw. She's like, I I can't do this.
Speaker 1: I can't do this. I can't do this for you
Speaker 1: to always just shocked by how sweet it is whenever
Speaker 1: I have it. Yeah, Yeah, it's like it's like sugar meat. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there you go, perfect, perfect new name for it. I
Speaker 1: get your sugar meat. Sugar that's gotta be an American,
Speaker 1: a holy American creation, right, like that didn't come with
Speaker 1: anybody from another land. I feel like sloppy Joe ak
Speaker 1: sugar meat. What the name is already fucked up? Dude,
Speaker 1: it's like sloppy Joe. Yeah, you know what, I bet
Speaker 1: it comes from like wars that like one of the
Speaker 1: World Wars, because that's where the coffee coffee got. The
Speaker 1: name Joe was because Americans drink coffee and British people
Speaker 1: drink tea, and so they would call coffee Joe because
Speaker 1: so I bet sloppy Joe was just something to do
Speaker 1: with the fact that Americans are disgusting. American soldiers were
Speaker 1: just a fucking wreck. It's from us though, coming out
Speaker 1: of mid twentie century cookbooks. Well, my name is Jack O'Brien,
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Speaker 1: to potatoes O'Brien. Anyways, I'm thrilled. You'll be joined as
Speaker 1: always by my co host, Mr Miles Miles Gray a
Speaker 1: k A face down, ass up. That's the way we
Speaker 1: like to munch our apples. We eat them from the bottom.
Speaker 1: I just came up with that because we've been talking
Speaker 1: about eating apples from the bottom our guests. I will,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, we'll explain it to you, guests. I
Speaker 1: see you giving me faces in the zoom. But someone
Speaker 1: was talking about eating apples from the bottom. I still
Speaker 1: cannot wrap my head around it. It's still just so
Speaker 1: fantastic and odd to me. But one last thing before
Speaker 1: we move on, I just want to say, looking up
Speaker 1: sloppy Joe. One name they used to call it was
Speaker 1: toasted deviled hamburgers. Toasted deviled hamburgers. That actually makes a
Speaker 1: lot of sense tonight. A deviled hamburger, Yeah, because like
Speaker 1: deviled eggs, are you just like whip that ship up
Speaker 1: and make it a little sweeter, okay, and softer? So
Speaker 1: deviled hamburger. Yes, it's just softer, chopped up sweetmeats. There
Speaker 1: we go, there it is. We're still like, we've spent
Speaker 1: a lot of time talking about this idea that you
Speaker 1: eat the apple from the bottom up. They said it
Speaker 1: as though like the normal way to eat the apples
Speaker 1: from the top down, Like just like what it's like
Speaker 1: a lathe, you know, like just you you go from
Speaker 1: the outside and then you you hollow it take it
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Speaker 1: like already so disgusted is Toasted Devil's podcast podcast. I'm
Speaker 1: on the Wikipedia page for Sloppy Joe and yeah that
Speaker 1: in Ohio there was an ad for in good Things
Speaker 1: to Eat, says Sloppy Joe's tense. I don't know what
Speaker 1: that is. Originated in Cuba. Oh yeah, I was like
Speaker 1: tens cs of meat? Is that very little bit just
Speaker 1: it says originated in Cuba. But I feel like in
Speaker 1: the forties they were just like maybe trying to blame
Speaker 1: Cuba for all of their horrors, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 1: well it was fancy back then, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Back then that was like this place You're like, oh
Speaker 1: in Cuba, yeahl yeah, it must be. Yeah. I think,
Speaker 1: like I think growing up I also immigrant parents. I
Speaker 1: think I had Sloppy Joe's at like school lunch, Like
Speaker 1: I got to have school lunch. But I don't I
Speaker 1: remember even back then being like I know this is
Speaker 1: not as good as my mom's. No way. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think it was more like the assimilation factor that was
Speaker 1: like gave me coming. Yeah, I'm acting like the white kids,
Speaker 1: but then like the sweetest fun. Even on the Wikipedia
Speaker 1: page they called them loose and eat sandwiches. I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not going to have something that's like found in
Speaker 1: the pocket of a giant, you know, doesn't it some
Speaker 1: loose meat in my pocket? And then the apple, poor thing,
Speaker 1: that's just that just sounds heat heatonistic, like I don't
Speaker 1: know why you're eating an acid an apple's ass, but
Speaker 1: like wrong, what is that? What is it's just weird?
Speaker 1: I know. I think it's just because the idea, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's the same like fruit flesh that you're eating, but
Speaker 1: the idea of attacking it from that a giving it
Speaker 1: a rim job, no thank you. But also utility of
Speaker 1: it isn't good because you can balance the apple on
Speaker 1: the bottom of it on like a table, like as
Speaker 1: you're eating. And that's why I think that's why you
Speaker 1: eat from the side, is because it's easier to hold
Speaker 1: and like balance and then to put it on its
Speaker 1: head because down to nothing. But I just think it
Speaker 1: doesn't balance. It's nicely from the top. Like nobody except
Speaker 1: for a few crunchy people who like like to brag
Speaker 1: about how many, how much of the Appalachian Trail they hiked.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's it's not a normal Listen. If
Speaker 1: you want to like sixty nine a banana or whatever,
Speaker 1: go for it, Like I'm not. That's another thing we've
Speaker 1: been talking about. I do like sixty nine banana, but
Speaker 1: that's not Yeah, the Unholy Podcast over here, what's new
Speaker 1: with you? Oh my god? Okay, I don't know if
Speaker 1: I'm I think I'm allowed to say this now. But
Speaker 1: I started dating this guy and it went it's been
Speaker 1: going amazing, and I'm like, we get along so well.
Speaker 1: I've been single for five and a half years. Like
Speaker 1: no one's admitted to dating me. Guys, he's getting deported
Speaker 1: back to New Zealand. Got what. Yeah, we found out
Speaker 1: like two weeks ago, and it was like we we
Speaker 1: met in January and like we just have been getting
Speaker 1: on great. And then we found out, like two weeks ago,
Speaker 1: he found out that through some incident that he wasn't
Speaker 1: aware of, he's like overstated his vista and he has
Speaker 1: to go back to like even try to renew it.
Speaker 1: So isn't that But isn't that a me? Because I'm
Speaker 1: the main character of this story. Forget about him. This
Speaker 1: is happening to you gotta you gotta potential mate, and
Speaker 1: everything was going well until our novis. I do have
Speaker 1: a joke about how like it's a very hot accent
Speaker 1: until he starts, until you have to like keep a
Speaker 1: straight face while he's asking for head. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Dude? Everybody, Okay, what are your producers saying?
Speaker 1: This is romcom? That's first of all, everybody's reaction is like,
Speaker 1: you need to watch that Anton Yelsen film or whatever
Speaker 1: where this happens to them. And then everybody's first reaction
Speaker 1: is to marry him. And I'm like, do you know
Speaker 1: value me? I met this man two months. My girlfriends
Speaker 1: are like, marry him, and I'm like, that's a rom com.
Speaker 1: Is like all of his friends. I was going to
Speaker 1: say that, and I'm like, nah, she has your ship
Speaker 1: together way too much for that to happen, even for
Speaker 1: me to posited as a joke. And he's like me,
Speaker 1: so he also has a ship together, So we're not
Speaker 1: about He's like, nor, give me some heat and I'll
Speaker 1: be out. Just touch touch my deek and I'll be gone.
Speaker 1: He's gonna hate this very supportive. All right, but yeah,
Speaker 1: isn't that crazy crazy? Sorry, But so he's not like
Speaker 1: catastrophically overstaying his visa or they're like you don't even
Speaker 1: think about applying. They're like, yo, you gotta you gotta come. No,
Speaker 1: he's not. At the I'm learning so much about immigration
Speaker 1: law right now. It's so insane. He's not like over
Speaker 1: six months or six months is a mandatory like one
Speaker 1: year ban I think. And so he's like it's only
Speaker 1: been like a couple of months and he's like leaving
Speaker 1: and there's COVID and like other you know, he just
Speaker 1: found out. So like he's going to try and be
Speaker 1: like I just didn't know, please like let me back in.
Speaker 1: But it's very like, I don't know. It's very arbitrary. Also,
Speaker 1: it makes you think about like the levels I mean
Speaker 1: obviously we think about this anyways, but like the levels
Speaker 1: of immigration, Like it's probably more likely he'll come back
Speaker 1: in because he's not like white, but he's from New Zealand,
Speaker 1: which is not like Mexico according to like the like
Speaker 1: US politics, you know what I mean, Like people from
Speaker 1: Mexico are much more like unlikely to get in just
Speaker 1: because of how like the types of racism that go
Speaker 1: on here, and I'm just looking at the periodic table
Speaker 1: of American racism and yeah, you're right. Yeah, yeah. So
Speaker 1: it's like it's really fucked up that you, like, like
Speaker 1: when you're applying and stuff, you have to think in
Speaker 1: that context of like the likelihood of you getting back
Speaker 1: in and if you're from a place like Mexico or
Speaker 1: like South America or Central America, it's like way less
Speaker 1: likely for you, which is insane. Borders are stupid, And
Speaker 1: that's what we've learned here on the side guys today. Yeah,
Speaker 1: gonna look real stupid when there's a climate migration. Yeah,
Speaker 1: are you gonna go visit New Zealand? Have you have
Speaker 1: you thought about that? Yeah? I'm not. I don't think
Speaker 1: we're going. I don't. It's hard for us to like
Speaker 1: continue without like a timeline because like we don't know
Speaker 1: when he's coming back. But I do think I'm at
Speaker 1: least going to, like, even if there's nothing else going on,
Speaker 1: I'm at least gonna. I wanted to visit. I'm a
Speaker 1: Lord of the Rings fan, Okay, Like I wanted to
Speaker 1: visit since like middle school, And I'm not going to
Speaker 1: not visit because he's that you know what I mean? Like, right,
Speaker 1: I can't like overthink it. I'm gonna be in the
Speaker 1: in the shire touching this man's deck and it's gonna
Speaker 1: be great. Maya's literally did a collar pool, right Who
Speaker 1: what means they shire in deep the same time? Mate,
Speaker 1: I'm a hobbit hall, I can't help it. Alright, al
Speaker 1: of you, we're gonna get to know you a little
Speaker 1: bit better in a moment first waking, if it's possible,
Speaker 1: We're gonna get to know you a little bit better first.
Speaker 1: A couple of things we're talking about. We're talking about
Speaker 1: the US already being like, so the pandemic that was wild,
Speaker 1: Let's uh, let's move on from that. No more funding
Speaker 1: according to Congress. Both sides are just like, yeah, we
Speaker 1: don't don't need any help anymore, right, So we'll talk
Speaker 1: about that. We'll talk about workers cozy in up to
Speaker 1: the metaverse. Possibly, we'll talk about Uncle Vanya's, which is
Speaker 1: the new straight, straight rip off. It's like McDowell's from
Speaker 1: Coming to America. It's a rip off of McDonald's. That
Speaker 1: Russia is opening up because people are mad that McDonald's
Speaker 1: shut down McDonald's like kind of took it, took his
Speaker 1: business elsewhere, and Russians are not happy. But I don't know,
Speaker 1: this is kind of this kind of fun like if
Speaker 1: so they they're just seizing everything in Russia, They're gonna
Speaker 1: leg open their own McDonald's and like that, that would
Speaker 1: be wild if there was just a kind of black
Speaker 1: market version of all American products and Russia, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's it's just this weird conversation between like capitalism and
Speaker 1: like the Soviet Union and just watching it like you're like, ah,
Speaker 1: we got you with our McDonald's Likes. Yeah, when India
Speaker 1: made like thumbs Up, which is like coke, but their
Speaker 1: version of it, it's like, yeah, it's but it's spelled
Speaker 1: it's spelled wrong. There's no be in it, and it's
Speaker 1: like okay like that, and I'm like I love it.
Speaker 1: I prefer it to coke, and so I always nice
Speaker 1: it's a little bit different. I think I like it better, honestly. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like pretty similar. And it's it had to do
Speaker 1: with Coca Cola leaving India and like the seventies or
Speaker 1: something like that, and then they like I think they
Speaker 1: came back and there was like weird, weird issues. But
Speaker 1: there's like, I'm sure there are like so many cases
Speaker 1: where capitalism has like like and the like withdrawal of
Speaker 1: it from different countries has led to these weird like
Speaker 1: the hand the little thumbs uphand we don't need it.
Speaker 1: We got this up. Yeah, And then we're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about the fact that The Batman is now the highest
Speaker 1: grossing serial killer movie ever. It's gonna it's gonna pass
Speaker 1: Sounds of the Lambs even inflation adjusted over the weekend.
Speaker 1: And so I just want to I want to talk
Speaker 1: about the fact that genres are now just like different
Speaker 1: kind of coats that various superhero movies try on one
Speaker 1: at a time, and that's how people find out about them.
Speaker 1: And I want to talk about if that's a good thing,
Speaker 1: and also which genre they need to try on next,
Speaker 1: all of the plenty more. But first we like to
Speaker 1: ask our guests, Paula V. What is something from your
Speaker 1: search history? Okay, speaking of the COVID resons, I saw this.
Speaker 1: This isn't fun. I'm not a fun person. Get used
Speaker 1: to me. I saw last yesterday or like the last
Speaker 1: couple of days that code has been spiking in like
Speaker 1: Europe Asia again, and so then I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: going to need more masks, and so I went to
Speaker 1: look at different masks and then I was like, I've
Speaker 1: heard some masks aren't actually like approved. So then I
Speaker 1: went to like the c d c S list of
Speaker 1: Neosh or niosh ratings of masks and like the different brands,
Speaker 1: and I was like cross referencing them, seeing where they
Speaker 1: were being sold, and I'm like, this one's not approved
Speaker 1: and this one is, and why can't I find it
Speaker 1: in black? Like I was like going through like their
Speaker 1: their technical like list, looking at them. Then by the
Speaker 1: end you're like, fuck it, I'll just get the one
Speaker 1: that's not registered because it's got the color I like.
Speaker 1: I ended up. I did end up doing the one
Speaker 1: that was like registered but looks like Ship. I'm like
Speaker 1: this one. They always they know what they're doing. They
Speaker 1: put the brand on the front of the mask and
Speaker 1: they look like ship. Like it looks like you're supposed
Speaker 1: to work on a construction site with them, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, rather than like be at comedy shows mask.
Speaker 1: But I'm like whatever, I'll look like Ship, but be safe.
Speaker 1: I don't care. That's it. Yeah, why not My favorite
Speaker 1: mask that it is still I think still approved is
Speaker 1: the Air Queen, which I don't think you're allowed to
Speaker 1: say that, correct, Air Queen. Let's a slur against the
Speaker 1: queer community. Yeah, it's like a pillow princess. But the
Speaker 1: Air Queen, Yeah, getting me in trouble a lot. But
Speaker 1: it's a good mask, Yeah it is. There is so
Speaker 1: much to go through like that. The fact is the
Speaker 1: factory registered to make this type of mask? And if not,
Speaker 1: is it have is it registered in general to make
Speaker 1: these kinds of mass but this mac specific kind of
Speaker 1: masks hasn't been approved by the FDA, but it is
Speaker 1: ending like an emergency fucking whatever it is. I almost
Speaker 1: did my head in trying to buy masks like last month.
Speaker 1: It was it's like a specific kind of evil for
Speaker 1: people to make like fake fake masks and fake hand
Speaker 1: sanitizer during a pandemic. I'm like that, that capitalism mindset.
Speaker 1: It's like a specific sociopath to do that, You know
Speaker 1: what I mean? What's something you think is overrated? Okay,
Speaker 1: I think this is overrated, but I do it and
Speaker 1: I participate in it and I enjoy it. So Skincare,
Speaker 1: it's like we don't know what's working. We know some
Speaker 1: things are working, and I will buy so many things
Speaker 1: and put it on my face because it feels good,
Speaker 1: Like the hydrating ship feels good. But let's not pretend
Speaker 1: this isn't you know, us trying to have a physical
Speaker 1: means of dealing with our depression, do you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Like we right, so many of us are
Speaker 1: just buying all these products that maybe make us break
Speaker 1: out more because all of our skins skin is different.
Speaker 1: But like I'm still loading that ship onto my face.
Speaker 1: I'm still like, like I got droppers and stuff, and
Speaker 1: I'm just like, yeah, I have to put this one
Speaker 1: on first and this one on after because I read
Speaker 1: one time it's wild. I like, I definitely it feels good,
Speaker 1: but I'm like, this isn't Like I don't know how
Speaker 1: much this is doing to like clear the blemishes or whatever.
Speaker 1: But I'm like participating in for hyper pigmentation using faded.
Speaker 1: I do use I use topicals faded, and I also
Speaker 1: have like a treat in thing. Okay, but as I
Speaker 1: say this, I'm not going to guarantee that it works
Speaker 1: for anybody listening. I know this, Okay, this is somebody
Speaker 1: somebody had like a tweet that was like, uh, fun,
Speaker 1: I wish I knew it was, but they had a
Speaker 1: tweet that was like, uh, skincare is like similar to
Speaker 1: like diet culture, where like everybody's like recommending based on
Speaker 1: how you look, all the products to buy, and it's
Speaker 1: not necessarily guaranteed to make anybody like feel like actually
Speaker 1: have better skin or whatever. It's just like we're trying
Speaker 1: all these different things, you know. Yeah, uh, I'm still
Speaker 1: gonna buy that ship. Yeah. I feel like it kind
Speaker 1: of exploded during the pandemic a little bit, like people
Speaker 1: were staring at themselves and in the mirror. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: remember when face masks, like once it started getting into
Speaker 1: like the gold one, like all of the like there
Speaker 1: were I thought face masks were like sleeping masks until
Speaker 1: a certain point and then and then it became like
Speaker 1: the synonymous with skincare, and I was like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is crazy, right right, Yeah, those those face masks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what is something you think is underrated? Tubs? Okay, hear
Speaker 1: me out. When I was moving, I had tubs of
Speaker 1: stuff and I have Miami Vice. Oh what, I don't know,
Speaker 1: crocket in tubs an old people's totally clearly what I meant.
Speaker 1: I meant both versions of tubs save yourself falla VI,
Speaker 1: let us die by ourselves live. I just gave. I
Speaker 1: just like gave into admitting that I'm fighting aging and
Speaker 1: you guys are like crom people think the water World
Speaker 1: a universal actually used to be the Miami Vice stunt
Speaker 1: show before these youngsters though they listen, why are you
Speaker 1: guys talking normally? Um? Exactly how they sound off? Podcast
Speaker 1: back my regular voice slipping all right. I just I
Speaker 1: like tubs. I like tubs of things. As I was
Speaker 1: moving to my new place, I was just like, let
Speaker 1: me just load it in my tub. Now I have
Speaker 1: like a tub of my like workout equipment back there
Speaker 1: I'm showing you, and like a tub of my like
Speaker 1: plant care stuff. I fucking love tubs, man, They're like
Speaker 1: easy plastic. They're like, don't break. You can put whatever
Speaker 1: you want on a tub. Yeah I can. I'm so old.
Speaker 1: I love tubs. Hey, you're not old enough to get
Speaker 1: that crocket in tubs, So you're on the tubs spectrum.
Speaker 1: I love. Yeah, You're like I like moving tubs and
Speaker 1: we're on the side being like I miss Miami Vice.
Speaker 1: I remember show with that name in it. The man
Speaker 1: in the white blazer. Yeah, what what's the container store?
Speaker 1: Are you? Are? You? Do you like to go into
Speaker 1: a container store? I'm sure I would. I love die
Speaker 1: so I love like the little containers and so like
Speaker 1: I think that they have like a lot of cute ship.
Speaker 1: I bought a cute ask broom. It was adorable. But
Speaker 1: like I but I'm not I'm not a I'm not
Speaker 1: a great embarrel or like what is it. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: not a like a like a big big tub person
Speaker 1: because I don't have as much space for it. So
Speaker 1: I feel like I just I've just been using tubs
Speaker 1: that like have come into my my my possession from
Speaker 1: like old roommates and stuff. I haven't had a real
Speaker 1: chance to go like ham On at Lows or some
Speaker 1: ship they'll they'll be running their sales. I'll pick up
Speaker 1: some tubs. It's easy because like I'm I kind of
Speaker 1: hoard some stuff, like like some documents and ship because
Speaker 1: like addited years ago and it's like you gotta keep
Speaker 1: all this ship and you never know some like okay okay,
Speaker 1: and so it's nice to have like tubs that you know,
Speaker 1: I like, this ship is not gonna fucking fall apart
Speaker 1: because it's cardboard. I can use it. My children can
Speaker 1: use these tubs, and their children will use and I
Speaker 1: have like, I have tubs of like Indian clothes and
Speaker 1: accessory and I'm like, it's the Indian wedding seats and
Speaker 1: gotta bust out my tub. Like I have tubs of
Speaker 1: like I like to say, like sentimental things like cards
Speaker 1: and stuff from friends. And so I got my like
Speaker 1: sentimental tub, you know. Yeah, yeah, pretty soon, you know,
Speaker 1: you just accumulate tubs and tubs and tubs, and pretty
Speaker 1: soon you're, you know, living space looks like one of
Speaker 1: those container ships, which that's that's where we're at. You know,
Speaker 1: my wife and I have been married for almost fourteen years,
Speaker 1: and it's just been a process of steady tub accumulation. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And we got some that are not the color they
Speaker 1: were when we purchased them. Yeah, and they I don't
Speaker 1: even really know or want to know what's in them,
Speaker 1: and like they're there's just not there's no conceivable future
Speaker 1: in my mind where I like, I'm like, all right,
Speaker 1: time to dig into these tubs. Yeah, I think they're
Speaker 1: just going to be there until I guess my kids
Speaker 1: go through your children, and whereas my children will use
Speaker 1: the tubs, they're going to be your children's burden. I
Speaker 1: think about that. I thought about that when moving, because
Speaker 1: I moved out of a place that I had to
Speaker 1: take everything out. It was being passed from roommate to roommate,
Speaker 1: but now the like landlord's family is moving in or something,
Speaker 1: and so we had to clear out decades of ship
Speaker 1: that wasn't even mine. And I was like, and so
Speaker 1: when I moved into this place and I was like
Speaker 1: buying a small trash can for the kitchen, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be staring at this trash can for maybe decades,
Speaker 1: so it was gonna be So there was like so
Speaker 1: much more pressure to buy something that like was like
Speaker 1: cute but like reasonable, you know what I mean. I
Speaker 1: was like the stuff that we like surround ourselves with sometimes,
Speaker 1: like we have clothes from like fifteen years ago, but
Speaker 1: we also have like items in our house that are
Speaker 1: like we're gonna have them forever, you know. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: it's like such a mixed purchase is so much more difficult.
Speaker 1: I'm like, who am I going to even be in
Speaker 1: twenty years? Garbage can do I want? Yeah, you just
Speaker 1: open it up. What once Like we've all died off
Speaker 1: and there's like a museum of culture like in Station eleven.
Speaker 1: You can make a good My kids will make a
Speaker 1: good living selling off our. You know, tubs full of
Speaker 1: first generation iPod chargers, and I have not. I have
Speaker 1: three tubs of electronics. I still have to go through
Speaker 1: all the wires. Yeah, just thirty pin Apple cable kids. Now,
Speaker 1: this one, this is a four to six prong FireWire converter.
Speaker 1: Why do we save the Apple phone boxes? I know
Speaker 1: I'm doing it and I should cost so much money. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's boxes a phone like I do the same ship
Speaker 1: I have my fucking I bought a laptop like a
Speaker 1: couple of months ago. I still have the box. Like, man,
Speaker 1: why are we doing it? Yeah? Because the boxes they
Speaker 1: come in are like nicer than the ones that I'll
Speaker 1: probably be buried in. Like they're looking nice. You can
Speaker 1: slide out your coffin like a match box like an
Speaker 1: Apple phone, like jacking, and it comes to the free
Speaker 1: sticker too. Put me in that wall. We got a
Speaker 1: charge jack up. Yeah, all right, let's take a quick
Speaker 1: break and we'll be right back. And we're back, and
Speaker 1: so I guess Congress basically is over over the pandemic. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's so they passed out one and
Speaker 1: a half trillion dollars spending bill bill this week, and
Speaker 1: the thing that was notably missing was it was the
Speaker 1: proposed like fifteen billion dollars in COVID funds, you know,
Speaker 1: to fucking fight the pandemic. The White House they were
Speaker 1: like even publicly being like, we really want to congers
Speaker 1: to know how bad we need this money, which because
Speaker 1: they were really talking to Republicans in the Senate who
Speaker 1: were like, m corn Us, I don't think we need
Speaker 1: to spend money, but again, this funding is desperately needed
Speaker 1: as part of our pandemic response, which has already been
Speaker 1: so fucking inadequate that it looks like a fucking prank
Speaker 1: on people. My friends and I were like, why the
Speaker 1: funck have we none of it? Like, we don't none
Speaker 1: of us got masks from the government, is it insane?
Speaker 1: Like we haven't even we like got like like four
Speaker 1: tests if we like we're living alone, right, and then
Speaker 1: we got zero masks or anything this whole time, which
Speaker 1: is insane. Right, And on top of it, there's like oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: they need like stimulus or checks to stay afloat. Then
Speaker 1: you get taxed on like what, don't worry about it.
Speaker 1: Don't worry about don't worry about it. Don't worry about it.
Speaker 1: To give you an idea of how like desperately needed,
Speaker 1: like these funds are so in this article from Ed
Speaker 1: Young in the Atlantics, just talking about like what the
Speaker 1: timeline and is basically for this money because if it
Speaker 1: runs like the effects of this money not being in
Speaker 1: the funding bill will be felt pretty much immediately, he says.
Speaker 1: Next week, the government will have to cut shipments of
Speaker 1: monoclonal antibody treatments by a third in April, it will
Speaker 1: no longer be able to reimburse healthcare providers for testing, vaccinating,
Speaker 1: or treating millions of uninsured Americans who are disproportionately likely
Speaker 1: to be unvaccinated and infected come June, and won't be
Speaker 1: able to support domestic testing manufacturers. It can't buy extra
Speaker 1: doses of anti viral pills, are infection preventing treatments that
Speaker 1: immuno compromise people are banking on. And we're also gonna
Speaker 1: have to scale back efforts to improve vaccination rates in
Speaker 1: other countries. That's just because they fucking because Republicans put
Speaker 1: up a fucking fight in the Senate and Democrats are like,
Speaker 1: that's too much, al right, fuck it, Like, well, let's
Speaker 1: figure right now. Democrats and you know, i'd imagine maybe
Speaker 1: two Republicans are trying to figure out how to get
Speaker 1: this money to come through. But at the moment, the
Speaker 1: Republican strategy was just sort of saying, well, what about
Speaker 1: all that money that the states have for pandemic response,
Speaker 1: why don't we dip into those funds? And they're like, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: those were intentionally set aside for their own preparedness and
Speaker 1: response efforts. So you remember at the beginning of the
Speaker 1: pandemic when like people were like, oh, the states can
Speaker 1: provide ventilators, and then like Jared Kushner was like hoarding
Speaker 1: the federal ventilators or whatever, like he was trying to
Speaker 1: like it feels like that again. It's like what like, like,
Speaker 1: how is this different? You know, if we're expected to
Speaker 1: like win elections in how are we how are we
Speaker 1: going to do that if we're not like providing a
Speaker 1: response that's adequate, Like like the changes isn't that significant? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I think it's given them out to chase
Speaker 1: cloud like at least we're not there where like the
Speaker 1: you know, president's families. It's like, we gotta we gotta
Speaker 1: get a warehouse full of those so that we can
Speaker 1: like get some favors back and like get invited to
Speaker 1: some cool parties this weekend. But I mean, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: and also, you know, this is just a cycle of
Speaker 1: young points out in this article of like pandemic like
Speaker 1: panic and neglect that would do this with all every
Speaker 1: single thing in the West and especially in this country.
Speaker 1: It's like there'll be a lot of money in the
Speaker 1: beginning and then all too quickly it's forgotten. You're neglected
Speaker 1: and just waiting for the problem to become worse because
Speaker 1: we just figured that initial amount of investment and attention
Speaker 1: was gonna do it. And like again, most people were
Speaker 1: saying we needed to fucking beef up all of this ship.
Speaker 1: And this is against the backdrop now where COVID, like
Speaker 1: we're multiple municipalities and states are dropping their mandates, whether
Speaker 1: it be for masks or vaccines, but their whole thing
Speaker 1: where they're like, don't worry, we're gonna drop the mandates.
Speaker 1: But the sick part is we're gonna have better treatment,
Speaker 1: better testing to be able to get into this phase
Speaker 1: of the fucking pandemic. But all that money was supposed
Speaker 1: to be fucking funded by Congress. That's supposed to be
Speaker 1: approved by Congress, so it's not even that doesn't even
Speaker 1: feed into this like new era of like you know,
Speaker 1: mask freedom that we're experiencing, Like all this ship that
Speaker 1: was supposed to support that is not there at the moment,
Speaker 1: So all it's gonna take is another serious variant and
Speaker 1: like we'll be just thrown into absolute chaos because we're
Speaker 1: like we're not even doing like the proper like monitoring
Speaker 1: of cases and and like and variants that are emerging
Speaker 1: because all of the funding is slowly being dialed back.
Speaker 1: That cycle of like everyone pays attention to the same
Speaker 1: blockbuster like news story. Basically it's like one story at
Speaker 1: a time and everybody like it starts. This was like
Speaker 1: shark attacks, right, it was like shark attacks that summer.
Speaker 1: But like, is it getting worse or does it just
Speaker 1: seem that way? Like it does feel like we are
Speaker 1: getting like the fact that we just went through a
Speaker 1: pandemic where one of the major stories like kind of
Speaker 1: coursing throughout the whole thing was like how underprepared we
Speaker 1: were and how we would have been even more if
Speaker 1: like George W. Bush hadn't like seen a TV episode
Speaker 1: that like talked about the possibility of a pandemic or
Speaker 1: something like that. You know, preparedness was awful, and like
Speaker 1: we're right back to being like, yeah, but you know,
Speaker 1: ukraine is really what what's hot right now, So we're
Speaker 1: not going to like pay much at tension. We're not
Speaker 1: gonna that's not are not really what's getting the butts
Speaker 1: and the seats getting the votes. I think like individually,
Speaker 1: like we've noticed how like people can have all the
Speaker 1: information and still make like horrific choices, and so it's
Speaker 1: like it's not necessarily like even preparedness or understanding. It's
Speaker 1: like it's just like getting people willing to like to
Speaker 1: take the right steps. Like I I definitely feel like individually,
Speaker 1: like at the beginning of the pandemic, I was like,
Speaker 1: please don't do your comedy show, and they were like, oh,
Speaker 1: Like I was like providing them with like CDC stats
Speaker 1: and stuff, and my friends were just like, you're like
Speaker 1: really smart to like men comedian friends were like because
Speaker 1: I worked in infectous diseases, so I was like explaining
Speaker 1: the ship to them and they were like, you're really smart,
Speaker 1: but we're still going to do the show. There was
Speaker 1: like no convincing people who just wanted to do what
Speaker 1: they wanted to do and like systemically politically, like as
Speaker 1: like a group Congress and whoever, like they're doing the
Speaker 1: same ship like that. You can't make people do stuff,
Speaker 1: even if they have the information. Yeah, And I think
Speaker 1: the part that makes it worse is that it's really
Speaker 1: the toll that it's taken isn't like you know, buildings
Speaker 1: being blown up, ship and cities being fucking destroyed. It's
Speaker 1: it's it's the damage is not very like out there.
Speaker 1: It's like you have to look for it because it's
Speaker 1: people dying in hospitals and people just grieving. And you
Speaker 1: deal with like a group of people like politicians who
Speaker 1: are already you know, like we already know that this
Speaker 1: pandemic affects people like according to class that people at
Speaker 1: the top, they're experiencing the pandemic in such a different
Speaker 1: way that it's you know, it's informing their idea of
Speaker 1: what the pandemic even is and that's where we see
Speaker 1: it when we don't see the kind of urgency to
Speaker 1: be like there's no fucking way we can just like
Speaker 1: take our foot off the gas with this, with the
Speaker 1: pandemic response. But there's also leaders there who truly will
Speaker 1: and they believe, they're like, I don't know, it's bad,
Speaker 1: like eight months ago from what I from what I
Speaker 1: saw in it gotally so maybe it's time to move on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I do, Like I'd be interested if anybody has any
Speaker 1: articles or like, like you know, thoughts, any listeners. Hit
Speaker 1: me up. But I'm just curious like about like whether
Speaker 1: the monoculture and like the our ability to process like
Speaker 1: only one story at a time is getting worse because
Speaker 1: it does feel like we just like skipped from tragedy
Speaker 1: or tragedy. Yeah, yeah, all right, well now now let's
Speaker 1: get into the solution, folks. I'm talking, of course about
Speaker 1: the metavers Get pumped, Get pumped. So you know, I
Speaker 1: I have been skeptical from the start. I just like
Speaker 1: couldn't imagine a world where suddenly people were interested in
Speaker 1: using like a two thousand and eight version of virtual reality,
Speaker 1: like but this, you know, there's just the will there.
Speaker 1: There's like the intention from rich people and therefore it's
Speaker 1: not going away to make this a thing, and like
Speaker 1: you're starting to see it everywhere. People, you know, at
Speaker 1: companies that we work with are like talking about the
Speaker 1: metaverse and like how this is like a thing everybody's
Speaker 1: going to be trying out and ship and it's just
Speaker 1: like your events in the metaverse. Man, that's like this
Speaker 1: like reminds me of like how they kept trying to
Speaker 1: push Google Glass on us and we were just like, no,
Speaker 1: I want it reminds me of that, but but it's
Speaker 1: like yeah, we were. We were like, you know, get
Speaker 1: the funk out of here with Google Glass and they
Speaker 1: were like, Okay, We're sorry. I know they're ugly, and
Speaker 1: with this one, we're like, are you like even stupider
Speaker 1: than Google Glass? And they just like kind of looked
Speaker 1: at us, and we're just like so the metaverse though, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I'm having some hope because like
Speaker 1: like with Crypto and like n f t S, like
Speaker 1: n f t S values are dropping like a crazy
Speaker 1: amount or whatever, so I'm like maybe maybe this won't hold,
Speaker 1: you know, like maybe the it'll hold for like an
Speaker 1: annoying amount of time and then maybe it'll go away. Well,
Speaker 1: I feel like n f T s the model is
Speaker 1: like if you're assuming the way things work in the
Speaker 1: US at least is that like rich people get rich
Speaker 1: or which seems to and like have all the powers
Speaker 1: are everything I've learned my whole life, and n f
Speaker 1: T is the rich like they're designed to be like
Speaker 1: scams where rich people get people to invest and then
Speaker 1: the bottom falls out. So like I feel like that's
Speaker 1: operate as it was intended to, Like they just didn't
Speaker 1: tell anyone that that was the intention both metaverse, like
Speaker 1: you know, one of the five richest people in in
Speaker 1: the world, I think has his entire fortune like tied
Speaker 1: up on the in this and like probably a lot
Speaker 1: of his very rich friends. And now like we're seeing
Speaker 1: this is the first time I've seen an argument where
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh yeah, maybe people will be using the
Speaker 1: metaverse like a year from now, what what what a
Speaker 1: boring thing to invest? Like some dumb like v R ship,
Speaker 1: Like why not make animals talk? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like I think of something more creative. Actually, you could
Speaker 1: like take a you could you could have a animal
Speaker 1: abbey in the metaverse, and so your friends could actually
Speaker 1: have a conversation with you where you appear to be
Speaker 1: an animal. So you do that voice too well, you asked,
Speaker 1: talking animals. I give you the metaverse, but but I
Speaker 1: give you the whatever like we call it again. I
Speaker 1: want you to do that to your wife. This is
Speaker 1: going to result in divorce for sure. But every time
Speaker 1: every time you're like, you're like, I give you clean dishes,
Speaker 1: you ask why didn't I do the dishes I give you?
Speaker 1: Put there it is. But yeah, there's this like new
Speaker 1: pole with the metaverse. You know, evangelists, they're all pointing
Speaker 1: to that. There's like this work trends pole that's showing
Speaker 1: that people who are talking about using metaverse technology or
Speaker 1: emerging technology technologies at work, that group is beginning to grow.
Speaker 1: So there was fift these respondents of employees are open
Speaker 1: to using digital immersive spaces in the metaverse for meetings
Speaker 1: or team activities in the next year. Forty seven are
Speaker 1: open to representing themselves as an avatar and meetings. Then
Speaker 1: they say like gen z and millennials are and forty
Speaker 1: percent respectively, that can actually see that their work could
Speaker 1: somehow like do some kind of work within using the
Speaker 1: metaverse whatever that is, then gen X, it's only thirty
Speaker 1: seven percent boomers, it's but more than Like when I
Speaker 1: look at what that where that openness comes from, I
Speaker 1: don't think it's that necessarily gen Z and Millenniar's like, dude,
Speaker 1: I want to use the metaverse. So like, dude, if
Speaker 1: I don't have to go in a fucking office, yeah,
Speaker 1: fucking metaverse if that's the binary, Like, let's suit up
Speaker 1: right fucking now, because I don't want to go to
Speaker 1: an office. Yeah. And I think when you look at
Speaker 1: like how this all works, had a lot of the
Speaker 1: push of the go back to the office like energy
Speaker 1: that we're seeing through government in the media. A lot
Speaker 1: of it has to do with the fact that commercial
Speaker 1: real estate took a huge ship in the pandemic, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, like decimated the demand for office
Speaker 1: space as many companies they were able to move to
Speaker 1: remote work and that shift absolutely smashed the pockets of
Speaker 1: developers and people who own massive tracks of like commercial
Speaker 1: buildings and things like that. But it also helped the
Speaker 1: residential real estate market. So getting ass is back into
Speaker 1: the offices is a huge like it's like that's all
Speaker 1: part of like a strategy to help recover the commercial
Speaker 1: like office sector. And that's where I kind of like
Speaker 1: this metaverse idea because it's almost like you're seeing this
Speaker 1: tension between this you know, traditional tangible like world that
Speaker 1: real estate deals with, and then these people who backed
Speaker 1: the metaverse are almost advocating for another version of like
Speaker 1: using space that isn't tied to the physical world and saying,
Speaker 1: maybe that's where you do it. Why would anybody want
Speaker 1: to do this over zoom? That's what that's my thing is, like,
Speaker 1: that's the hard We'll see Jack come on them. That's
Speaker 1: that's what they didn't ask a follow up question where
Speaker 1: they're like okay, now zoom or this other ship that's
Speaker 1: like question too, and the person who asked it just
Speaker 1: like got pulled off stage. That's like what I'm curious about.
Speaker 1: I guess the reason that I brought up like n
Speaker 1: F T S and like crypto specifically like more Crypto,
Speaker 1: is that I feel like crypto is a thing where
Speaker 1: it creates the problems it's attempting to solve, where it
Speaker 1: doesn't really solve any like new problems. And I feel
Speaker 1: that way about the metaverse. I'm like, the more I'm
Speaker 1: all about, like automation and technology and innovation, Like I
Speaker 1: think that's like really important, but I think that there
Speaker 1: are certain technologies that just like create more problems than
Speaker 1: anything that they're trying to solve, right, And I think
Speaker 1: like like with like digital currency and going into crypto
Speaker 1: and then things like this, it's like how the like
Speaker 1: how the funk is like like different generations and different
Speaker 1: people from people from different like socioeconomic backgrounds. How are
Speaker 1: they supposed to like accept this this technology that seems
Speaker 1: to be like more difficult and unnecessary than like zoom,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like it just seems like
Speaker 1: they're trying to complicate the office situation or like like
Speaker 1: just like interacting with people in general, and they're they're
Speaker 1: making it more inaccessible. You know. Yeah, there's two and
Speaker 1: they're painting it as more accessible. Like they're like you
Speaker 1: don't have to come in, but you have to build
Speaker 1: an avatar where you don't have a VR headset. Fuck no,
Speaker 1: I have a I have a felt like self facing
Speaker 1: camera on a laptop. So if I have to update
Speaker 1: my headset before meeting, they got me lookings dumb in
Speaker 1: here with the fucking egg avatar in this meeting, someone
Speaker 1: did an update, But yeah, it is, it is. It
Speaker 1: does seem like right now we have we've very much
Speaker 1: found a way to be able to connect get things done,
Speaker 1: you know, with just using video that we can now
Speaker 1: see each other's facial expressions. That that can that can
Speaker 1: help already take away some of the need for office space.
Speaker 1: But yeah, this idea that well, no, now we got
Speaker 1: to take to the metaverse. I just I don't understand,
Speaker 1: Like maybe I just don't understand the metaverse enough and
Speaker 1: Jack and that voice can explain it to me, But like,
Speaker 1: what what is what is it offering? Like, what is
Speaker 1: it offering that Zoom like can't practically solve for an
Speaker 1: office situation? Probably you asked for talking animals. I think
Speaker 1: you mentioned the when I'm here on Zoom with you,
Speaker 1: I don't look like a talking animal. But what were
Speaker 1: we to enter the metaverse? I could see like a
Speaker 1: sick concert and I could be a talking animal. That's
Speaker 1: all I got. I'm changing up my filters right now.
Speaker 1: I'm a talking at it right now. Yeah, what now,
Speaker 1: what talking animals do you now? I think Mark Zuckerberg
Speaker 1: probably likes it because he can't see people rolling their
Speaker 1: eyes at him, like in the metaverse, whereas if it
Speaker 1: gets good enough, you better be able to right. The
Speaker 1: only way I could see it is if like it's
Speaker 1: so it's like I'm talking like the matrix type ship
Speaker 1: for me to be like, uh I see, that's how
Speaker 1: we use it, like the shark mouth. Was that a
Speaker 1: fin on your head? Yeah? I said, like a full
Speaker 1: shark face coming out of just my mouth, Like the
Speaker 1: nose and the eyes are also like this one, okay
Speaker 1: on this it might be it might be a head
Speaker 1: on the shark on the shark filter, you look like
Speaker 1: being at a children's Christmas or a children's birthday party.
Speaker 1: The shark. I was born in the born in the darkness,
Speaker 1: like look at my fun look at my fun mask.
Speaker 1: I was born as a baby shock by mama Shock.
Speaker 1: Do do do do do do? Okay, Olivia has been
Speaker 1: showing off the fact that zoom can totally do animal
Speaker 1: faces and okay, don't tell people because my metaverse stock
Speaker 1: just to get dump. I had a feeling that this
Speaker 1: kind of came out of nowhere, Like you the article
Speaker 1: that you're linking off too is just a guess the blogger,
Speaker 1: did you show funny to me? Because the byline is
Speaker 1: Miles Gray. No, it's Giles Giles right, typo. This is
Speaker 1: so funny to me because like we're onto the metaverse
Speaker 1: and somewhere people at Skype or like we'll make a comeback,
Speaker 1: right yeah, oh yeah. There's brains just churning forty hours
Speaker 1: a week trying to come up with like so much
Speaker 1: of of America right now is people spending tons and
Speaker 1: tons of human capital on terrible fucking ideas that are
Speaker 1: never gonna get off the ground. I guess that's always
Speaker 1: been like capitalism, but that's definitely happening at Skype. And
Speaker 1: I still use Skype every once in a while. So
Speaker 1: wait for what, like is it for like fun to
Speaker 1: have a conversation with a older their relative. There's there's
Speaker 1: also like certain like tutoring organizations and stuff that require
Speaker 1: sky Like some places do require Skype. We're like other
Speaker 1: weird web based video conferencing apps, which is strange. See
Speaker 1: there they still got a little bit of foothold. All right,
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and we'll come back and
Speaker 1: talk about other stuff. And we're back. And I know
Speaker 1: you're back too because of that killer tease when I
Speaker 1: said that's right, other stuff, Uncle, Vanya's is trending. This
Speaker 1: the trending episode. Whatever, man, I got a lot of tables.
Speaker 1: Uncle Vanya's is the new knockoff McDonald's in Russia, which
Speaker 1: I I kind of love this for the world, a
Speaker 1: world where there's just like a a shadow bizarrow capitalism
Speaker 1: universe that's happening in a different country and they're just
Speaker 1: like the funk, you're gonna give us more sanctions? What
Speaker 1: haunted doll creature? Does their version of the Grimace look like? Like?
Speaker 1: What what is their Nald McDonald look like? I'm like,
Speaker 1: what if they what if they just look like normal
Speaker 1: people version. It's just like it's like it's a really
Speaker 1: pleasant looking young lady. Just like there's her name's Grimace.
Speaker 1: That's it. There's no nothing really strange about her other
Speaker 1: than that. But yeah, in Russia, right, like so since
Speaker 1: a lot of Western companies have been like ceasing or
Speaker 1: halting business there, McDonald's being one of those, you know,
Speaker 1: we've seen there's been clips of like Russian people scrambling
Speaker 1: to get like in one last order before like the
Speaker 1: McDonald's closed. There's one guy who chained himself to the
Speaker 1: doors of a McDonald's like saying like to like it's
Speaker 1: not fair to cut someone's like Hamburger access off and
Speaker 1: it's like unjust. And you know, clearly McDonald's has a
Speaker 1: hold on people no matter where you go. It's just
Speaker 1: it is fucking what it is. And when the red
Speaker 1: Tron's open thirty two years ago, people were losing it.
Speaker 1: And you can just tell that like McDonald's has just
Speaker 1: always had this place, especially for countries that have not
Speaker 1: been completely smashed by capitalism, or there was a little
Speaker 1: push pool between the two that people like always like
Speaker 1: at McDonald's as like sort of this like lifestyle thing
Speaker 1: or this place that you want to go to. And
Speaker 1: the Russian Parliament like seems to understand that this is
Speaker 1: a need for the people to have some sense of normalcy,
Speaker 1: which is why they decided to do something about it. They've,
Speaker 1: you know, in Moscow, have decided to have like they
Speaker 1: would fund to the tune of like millions of dollars
Speaker 1: I believe, but whatever the equivalent is in rubles, like
Speaker 1: of a new Russian fast food chain called Uncle Vanya's,
Speaker 1: which is just a crudely converted McDonald's. M Like their
Speaker 1: logo is just a crudely converted McDonald's logo to look
Speaker 1: like cyrillic or b which is really a V sound
Speaker 1: in Russian. So that's their way to get around this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they just tip that shipped over on its side and
Speaker 1: put a little lying on the bottom. It looks like, yeah,
Speaker 1: if you if you did the least amount of work
Speaker 1: possible to convert the McDonald's to m into a bee,
Speaker 1: you know, right, think their ice cream machines also not
Speaker 1: gonna work. There's actually work everything where we went wrong.
Speaker 1: We're righting the wrongs. But actually, like I will say,
Speaker 1: based on what we know about the McDonald's ice cream
Speaker 1: machine story, they would be more likely to work because
Speaker 1: they would be allowed to use the company that figured
Speaker 1: out how to fix it now sing McDonald's for like
Speaker 1: five billion dollars because McDonald's like shut them down because
Speaker 1: I don't know a nine hundred million jack oh my back.
Speaker 1: You know, they're not greedy. But the you know, the
Speaker 1: Russian government has been discussing like seizing foreign assets within
Speaker 1: the country ever since their invasion began, and they you know,
Speaker 1: there was also like they're also potentially having a law
Speaker 1: like that would sanction this to make it just pretty
Speaker 1: easy to just say, oh, yeah, you know that old McDonald's.
Speaker 1: I just lasted the old logo off and put my
Speaker 1: own up there and it's called what, you know, whatever
Speaker 1: the funk I want to call it. The their trademark
Speaker 1: office in Russia has already gotten like all kinds of
Speaker 1: applications for other businesses that use like some form of
Speaker 1: the McDonald's logo or the name. And because they're like, man,
Speaker 1: we don't recognize these trademarks is being valid? They're being granted.
Speaker 1: Now what happens? Who knows? Because you know, obviously the
Speaker 1: good capitalists of the West have threatened more sanctions if
Speaker 1: you start seizing the businesses. But like you said, I
Speaker 1: think their biggest problems aren't gonna be you know, an
Speaker 1: administrative like where are you going to source all that
Speaker 1: natural quote unquote beef and pink who that you need
Speaker 1: for chicken nuggets? That's where I think consumers will probably
Speaker 1: notice the different m and like the actual product. Yeah,
Speaker 1: are you saying the rip off product is not going
Speaker 1: to have the same quality as the actual product? Is
Speaker 1: that what you're saying? I have a feeling or it's
Speaker 1: like better and people like bo it's actually healthier for
Speaker 1: you yeah, I could go out a way. This reminds
Speaker 1: me of the history of Fanta. If if you ever
Speaker 1: have an opportunity to read the history of Fanta, which
Speaker 1: I'm I'm saying it like this to make it sound
Speaker 1: like I read a book, it's actually just the Wikipedia
Speaker 1: page of Fanta. But basically, Fanta was a product that
Speaker 1: the Coca Cola company within Germany that got like cut
Speaker 1: off during World War Two for being Nazis, And you know,
Speaker 1: they were like, well, we don't need your bullshit Coca
Speaker 1: Cola because we have this Fanta And it was this
Speaker 1: like fruit flavored soda that like the idea was the
Speaker 1: same idea as today. But because Nazi Germany was kind
Speaker 1: of strapped with all the uh, all the stuff they
Speaker 1: had going on there that there was going on there
Speaker 1: was like just Holocaust well among many other horrifying things
Speaker 1: that they had going on the but we got a
Speaker 1: lot going on in here in the third right, man,
Speaker 1: why don't you give us a break? The product was
Speaker 1: just horrible. I think they like said, there's like glass
Speaker 1: in it, like the Yeah, there's like bad just bad
Speaker 1: chemicals in this ship. Bad vibes, bad vibes. And yet
Speaker 1: it's lasted to this day somehow, So think about that
Speaker 1: the next time. You don't want to, don't you? Maybe not?
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't want to, fanta I do. It's just
Speaker 1: interesting to see like how like consumer culture in facts
Speaker 1: and becomes even a thing that like this government is
Speaker 1: now being like fun man, people like people are in
Speaker 1: a pattern of consuming in a certain way, and like
Speaker 1: we kind of need, like we need that as part
Speaker 1: of the stability model, which we already see here in
Speaker 1: this country with you know, our bread and circuses show
Speaker 1: that continues without abating. But yeah, it's it's just kind
Speaker 1: of out to see this sort of evolution of McDonald's
Speaker 1: being a thing that was couldn't be in the Soviet
Speaker 1: Union then shows up. It's a huge thing when it leaves.
Speaker 1: Now it's like it's just you know, or or like
Speaker 1: the fact that that guy like like hied himself or
Speaker 1: like Locksel changed himself to McDonald's, Like that's that's a
Speaker 1: wild like that that's like a right that they're fighting for,
Speaker 1: you know, not like a right, but like you know,
Speaker 1: something that they're fighting for. That's like wild to conceive
Speaker 1: of right because I imagine if you were I mean,
Speaker 1: I I know there are people who eat fast food
Speaker 1: every single day, and some people eat the same thing
Speaker 1: at the same fast food restaurant every day. It's not
Speaker 1: the healthiest ship. But like, that would I can imagine
Speaker 1: for that person. What would happen if you're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that place won't exist anymore here? Yeah, yeah, away, Look,
Speaker 1: there are a lot of reasons you might find yourself
Speaker 1: chained to a McDonald's. I'm not asking questions, No big deal,
Speaker 1: that's happened. A lot of what are the ice cream machines?
Speaker 1: Gotta work? Me screaming outside of Burger King? Now, So
Speaker 1: big news in the world of box office. Boffo b o.
Speaker 1: The Batman is now the highest grossing serial killer movie ever,
Speaker 1: or will be after this weekend. Wow, spoiler damn Batman's
Speaker 1: a serial killer. Yeah, I know, it's like the least
Speaker 1: a serial puncher, you know. Okay, wait, so when you
Speaker 1: say it's a serial like, who are you just saying
Speaker 1: you're making that distinction or there? No, No, that's that's
Speaker 1: the distinction made by box office expert Scott Mendelssohn. Okay,
Speaker 1: like as a writer, but yeah, I mean I I
Speaker 1: had kind of gathered that from everybody comparing the movie
Speaker 1: and The Riddler to like Zodiac and yeah, Ted Cruise is, yeah,
Speaker 1: exactly to Ted Cruz and the movie seven also based
Speaker 1: on the works of Ted Cruz seventh Birthday. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess the Riddler is sort of a inspired by
Speaker 1: the Killers from those those movies. He's got a little
Speaker 1: bit of a serial killer vibe and that like definitely
Speaker 1: seems like it seems to be the color palette they're
Speaker 1: working with and based on the trailers, so mental someone
Speaker 1: was just making the point that, like, you know, these
Speaker 1: like if you actually take into account that these superhero
Speaker 1: movies are sampling these genres, then like the highest grossing
Speaker 1: World War One movie ever is Wonder Woman. The highest
Speaker 1: grossing like gritty seventies adult drama is The Joker, the
Speaker 1: highest grossing conspiracy political thrillers Captain America, Winter Soldier, And
Speaker 1: the highest grossing high school movie is The First Spider Man,
Speaker 1: the first Tom Holland Spider Man. So they can't just
Speaker 1: like label these as superhero movies. Superhero movies need to
Speaker 1: be other movies now, because it's like there's so many
Speaker 1: of them. Well, I think there's also like those are
Speaker 1: also a good sampling of like some of the more
Speaker 1: successful superhero movies in the last five years. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I think I think that is like the new playbook
Speaker 1: is you you know, just go and take all of
Speaker 1: the moves from like this entire genre of movies that
Speaker 1: like existed and you know, made a bunch of really
Speaker 1: good movies. You just like pull the highlights from that
Speaker 1: put it in your movie, and it's not it's not
Speaker 1: a thing. You know. Film film reviewers might be like, ah,
Speaker 1: that like a lot of you know, moves borrowed from
Speaker 1: seven and Zodiac, but like the majority of the audience
Speaker 1: is going to be like, whoa, that is the most
Speaker 1: original thing I've ever seen in my life because it's
Speaker 1: a PG thirteen movie pulling moves from like R rated
Speaker 1: movies that came out fifteen years ago. Did you know
Speaker 1: they're doing a new suicide squad that's very Eat Pray Love?
Speaker 1: Did you guys know? They're just all like trying to
Speaker 1: find themselves in Italy and christ Barcelona, But some of
Speaker 1: the suicide characters the second the second Tom Holland Spider
Speaker 1: Man is the highest Praying Pray Love inspired film. I
Speaker 1: believe that does take place in Europe. Ye sampling the sites.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like I'm not here to say like
Speaker 1: this is a problem, like our cultures fun, it's inevitable. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's kind of the natural evolution. Like superheroes are definitely
Speaker 1: like our national like Greek myths, you know whatever, Like
Speaker 1: it's represents a bunch of stuff about America and like
Speaker 1: how Americans one of you themselves, and like, I feel
Speaker 1: like that will be a lasting legacy from the period
Speaker 1: of time that we're all living through. Is like and
Speaker 1: these people were really into these fucking people who had
Speaker 1: capes on for some reason and right like weird masks,
Speaker 1: and one was called Superman. I told New Zealand guy
Speaker 1: about how I loved like Batman and superhero stuff, and
Speaker 1: he was like, yeah, that's very American. And I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa,
Speaker 1: why does that feel like an insult? Yeah? And it
Speaker 1: was that always feels like an insult. It's like it's
Speaker 1: the same like, yeah, any any family from outside the
Speaker 1: use like that's so American, Like okay, maybe, okay out Wow.
Speaker 1: It's like when white people get called white and they
Speaker 1: get really upset about it. They're like, whoa, why is
Speaker 1: he using the slur? Against me. Don't call me American,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, you're right, x men is my Yeah.
Speaker 1: I like the guy with the metal fingernails. He's my favorite.
Speaker 1: Hate the military industrial complex, but love the proper hand
Speaker 1: that upholds it. I can't help it, but at least
Speaker 1: I know it's propaganda. So that's what it was really
Speaker 1: not working on me. Take my money, give my McDonald's
Speaker 1: and thumbs up. But yeah, there is like this, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's no there's I don't know how you can have
Speaker 1: a problem with it. Like all art just iterates on itself,
Speaker 1: Like there's no artist who says I was not inspired
Speaker 1: by anything else. I grew up in a vacuum, devoid
Speaker 1: of anything that would have informed my taste, and I
Speaker 1: just started making things. I mean, there are some people who,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe remote places, who do that, but every
Speaker 1: single person is always, you know, everything is being informed
Speaker 1: by a previous thing. That's a very Batman take. Is
Speaker 1: like I grew up in a vacuum, devoid of anything, right,
Speaker 1: I just started creating. I was actually raised in the darkness.
Speaker 1: It actually just like this sculpture. They're like, that's that
Speaker 1: looks like the statue of David, but just with a
Speaker 1: huge dick this time huge downstairs. I because I'm like
Speaker 1: a fan of movies more something like TV. Like I
Speaker 1: think what's happening is like the stuff that's like more
Speaker 1: straightforward like genre stuff is getting is being turned into
Speaker 1: like series on like streaming, and then movies have to
Speaker 1: be these like big plays at like massive audiences. And
Speaker 1: so I do think it's not great that like the
Speaker 1: sex and the consequences of the violence are removed from
Speaker 1: all of these genre exercises. Like I like a World
Speaker 1: War One movie with fucking you know, like just people know.
Speaker 1: I'm just I was like, but yeah, I just feel
Speaker 1: like a lot of the humanity gets shaved off when
Speaker 1: you turn it into a massive blockbuster. So it's like
Speaker 1: you're marrying these two different subjects, but one of very
Speaker 1: much happened and the other one is like our fantasy
Speaker 1: of what could have been or something. Yeah that could
Speaker 1: like like wash over what what happened in history? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know they're they're still great ship being made
Speaker 1: everywhere and in other countries, and yeah, like Uncle Vanya's
Speaker 1: we know that there's great ship. Yeah, I mean where's
Speaker 1: that Like, where's that movie with wasn't women. Michael Keaton
Speaker 1: is playing like the head of McDonald's. Oh, he's played Batman,
Speaker 1: Beetle Juice and the head of McDonald's. What can't this
Speaker 1: man do? I love drama? Pick good Man? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think who knows? Probably? Yeah, I know it seems like
Speaker 1: a good enough guy. Paul, it's been such a pleasure
Speaker 1: as always having you. Where can people find you and
Speaker 1: follow you? I'm at Paul Vigan, Allen p A L
Speaker 1: L A B I g U n Alien everywhere. Uh.
Speaker 1: I'm most active on like Twitter and Instagram, but I'm
Speaker 1: also on like TikTok and I was on Clubhouse. I
Speaker 1: don't know if I'm still there, but I'm like, am I? Uh?
Speaker 1: Clubhouse still going? There was definitely like a community that
Speaker 1: was but I don't know. I don't know how popular
Speaker 1: it is right now, but it's there's still people on there.
Speaker 1: I still have like my Clubhouse friends, you know, they're
Speaker 1: hanging out and maybe with this next wave we'll all reunite.
Speaker 1: But yeah, do you find me everywhere there? I'm also
Speaker 1: I co host co produced a funnel Lingus and that's
Speaker 1: gonna be back Able tent at Hotel Cafe at eight pm.
Speaker 1: It's super fun. It's all female and non binary comics,
Speaker 1: and it's a dope show every time. It's amazing. Is
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Speaker 1: Thomas and Dylan Adler. I love them so much. They're
Speaker 1: such sweethearts, and they're also like they make the funniest
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Speaker 1: like him and like it was I think he did
Speaker 1: one about like the capital the interaction, but it's like
Speaker 1: it's about like the un for the guy in charge
Speaker 1: of uniforms or whatever. So he does like all these
Speaker 1: really funny videos. And then Dylan Adler, which is at
Speaker 1: Dylan A d L E R six that's his his Twitter.
Speaker 1: He doesn't He's been doing a lot of funny videos.
Speaker 1: He does. Lynn Manuel Miranda impressions And he just had
Speaker 1: one video of like a quick change backstage. It got
Speaker 1: like over three hundred thousand likes, like not even views likes,
Speaker 1: and it was like him taking like way too long
Speaker 1: to get ready, and it's just like he's just so
Speaker 1: fucking funny. But it's he's incredible. He's so funny, and
Speaker 1: I everybody should go follow those two people. Nice. Yeah, Miles,
Speaker 1: where can people find you? What is the tweet You've
Speaker 1: been enjoying just seeing the video? Yeah, it's like people
Speaker 1: taking way too long. It's like a minute a quick
Speaker 1: change like and then people were like people underneath all
Speaker 1: these like music theater, people were like, is this a joke?
Speaker 1: And it's yeah, it looks so real. Yeah, he's putting
Speaker 1: on seven sweaters and someone gave him go and someone's
Speaker 1: doing makeup on like the back of his neck, like
Speaker 1: just stupid, great physical comedy. Um, you can find me
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Speaker 1: I saw that one to day I was like losing
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