Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to twenty eight,
Speaker 1: episode four of Dirt Daily. Side guys. It's a production
Speaker 1: of My Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we
Speaker 1: take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. And it is,
Speaker 1: of course Thursday in March seventeenth two, which means it
Speaker 1: is Miles, I don't know how to read what you've
Speaker 1: written down here Street something or rather day, I forget
Speaker 1: St St Something seen. It's only those Saints days, isn't
Speaker 1: it Mark seventeen, Oh ship, I should know this right, um,
Speaker 1: Saint Saint Gertrude, Saint Saint St Patty Cap Patty Cake
Speaker 1: also shout out to my nephew was born on St.
Speaker 1: Patrick's Day. St. That's it there, it is, Yeah, St
Speaker 1: my nephew was born on St. Patrick's days day. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't, I don't know. You just
Speaker 1: know it's happy he was born on St. Patrick's Day day. Anyways,
Speaker 1: my name is Jack O'Brien, a K. Jack Cousteau O'Brien
Speaker 1: with that get up. According to Mampers eighty four, I
Speaker 1: guess because I was wearing a orange beanie and the
Speaker 1: picture we posted yesterday. Yeah, I was also wearing a
Speaker 1: wet suit and had a harpoon gun, so it could
Speaker 1: have been that as well. No way to know, but
Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to be joined as always buy my co
Speaker 1: host Mr Miles Gray. Started from the bottom, kind of
Speaker 1: weird started from the bottom, made this whole nana disappears.
Speaker 1: Started from the bottom. Kind of weird started from the bottom,
Speaker 1: made the whole fruit from the rear. Okay, shout out
Speaker 1: to Christie. I'm a Gucci man at waffle house who
Speaker 1: was calling. People were giving us new fruit eating techniques,
Speaker 1: like feeling the banana from the bottom or what we
Speaker 1: think is the bottom, or eating an apple from the bottom.
Speaker 1: You still haven't tried it though. Sometimes people give me
Speaker 1: a strange idea and I'm like, maybe that one. The
Speaker 1: idea of eating banana from the bottom didn't even enter
Speaker 1: my brain. I was just like, what about the apple?
Speaker 1: The apple felt? It just felt. It was like that
Speaker 1: picture of the guy who pretended be Justin Bieber who
Speaker 1: couldn't eat the burrito, who just eating it. Like to
Speaker 1: see somebody eat an apple like that, I'm like, you're
Speaker 1: trying to get a rise out of me, right, does that? Sorry?
Speaker 1: Did I say that's what I meant. The apple thing
Speaker 1: didn't even enter my brain. Banana, I've I've eaten bananas
Speaker 1: all sorts of ways, including as a corn coup. By
Speaker 1: the way, shout out to whoever, whoever the person was
Speaker 1: who was like I look like Bieber, And I know
Speaker 1: that if I go out into public as Biber and
Speaker 1: eat a burrito as from the middle outward, it will
Speaker 1: break the internet that that person is a genius. And
Speaker 1: I hope that one day they used their powers for good.
Speaker 1: They got us, they got us. We devoted an entire
Speaker 1: episode of the show during the Trump and the illustration
Speaker 1: is we just couldn't couldn't figure it out. Our show
Speaker 1: has gotten better, I think, But anyways, Miles, we are
Speaker 1: thrilled to be joined by Podcasting Royalty, a writer, media critic,
Speaker 1: and the host of one of my favorite podcasts, You're
Speaker 1: Wrong About Her writing has appeared and The Believer on BuzzFeed,
Speaker 1: and she's just truly one of the best people in
Speaker 1: the world at interrogating the myths and narratives we used
Speaker 1: to define ourselves in the world around us, the stuff
Speaker 1: that we try to do on this show. She's the best.
Speaker 1: Please welcome to brilliant and talented Sarah Marshall. How much
Speaker 1: shouting is on this show. I'm learning so much about
Speaker 1: where to point my head when I'm shouting. There you go.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me. I'm so happy
Speaker 1: to be here. And I had no idea that there
Speaker 1: was a fake b or who couldn't eat a barrito.
Speaker 1: I feel like all I do is monitor the Internet,
Speaker 1: and I still miss all the good stuff. I'm so
Speaker 1: happy to get to learn to flash in the pan.
Speaker 1: Ya just went set dressed up is in biberesque clothing,
Speaker 1: sat on a park bench and started attacking a burrito
Speaker 1: from the middle, and the pazzi were on it. I
Speaker 1: want Werner hurt So to make a documentary about this event.
Speaker 1: It would it would be good. And I truly mean
Speaker 1: what I said, like the level of subtle kind of
Speaker 1: tapped intness to the zeitgeist and the fact that that
Speaker 1: would capture our imaginations. Hats off the way the confused
Speaker 1: Canadian eats the burrito in his eyes, I see only Tara.
Speaker 1: How are you doing, Sarah, What's what's new? What's new
Speaker 1: with you? I you'll the the optimism of spring sort
Speaker 1: of approaching, and I was just looking at the weather
Speaker 1: before we started talking and saw that we're now at
Speaker 1: you know, equal amounts of darkness and light, which is
Speaker 1: really exciting. I feel cautiously optimistic, but I guess that's
Speaker 1: my normal mood, which is probably a good way to
Speaker 1: go through life, because you like hope good things will happen,
Speaker 1: and then you find it believable when they do happen.
Speaker 1: But you don't, you know, expect to wake up to
Speaker 1: two things functioning or anything, right, cautious, All right, well,
Speaker 1: we are going to get to know you a little
Speaker 1: bit better in a moment. First, we're gonna tell our
Speaker 1: listeners a couple of things we're talking about. We're going
Speaker 1: to talk about some Kremlin talking points that are continuing
Speaker 1: to cause problems on Fox, and just you know, Fox
Speaker 1: is actually in this in this specific instance, representing kind
Speaker 1: of a major debate happening in the international relations communities,
Speaker 1: but deploying it in a very cynical way that deserves Fox,
Speaker 1: of course. So we'll talk about that. We'll talk about
Speaker 1: the fact that workers are maybe open to the metaverse,
Speaker 1: are being like kind of cornered two into being open
Speaker 1: to the metaverse. And yeah, well we'll talk about whether
Speaker 1: that's a good thing or not. I think anything we
Speaker 1: can do to just you know, continue to live into
Speaker 1: in the world that Mark Zuckerberg built for us, I
Speaker 1: think is a good thing. Right. I think we don't
Speaker 1: agree on that. Yeah, it seems like he's got a
Speaker 1: face of a benevolent deity, good head on his shoulders.
Speaker 1: I created my own Buddhist statues with his face on it.
Speaker 1: I changed all kind of like deity statues I had.
Speaker 1: I did a lot of work to make them look
Speaker 1: like Mark Zuckerberg, because he knows the way he does
Speaker 1: the way the path forward. And we're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: KFC going full demolition Man with a with a degu
Speaker 1: station menu, which is a tasting menu but in French
Speaker 1: in a French word that when I say it sounds
Speaker 1: close to disgusting. But I think the French probably have
Speaker 1: a much better handle on the pronunciation of that one.
Speaker 1: But anyways, KFC has a tasting menu. We'll we'll talk
Speaker 1: about it. Um surprisingly okay with it, all of that
Speaker 1: plenty more, But first, Sarah, we do like to ask
Speaker 1: our guests what is something from your search history? I
Speaker 1: feel like generating Google search history is all I do like,
Speaker 1: all I do is distract myself every five seconds, wondering
Speaker 1: about random things. Like this morning, I was like, I
Speaker 1: was lying in bed and I was like, what's Amy
Speaker 1: Joe Johnson doing? Now? You know the Pink Power Ranger
Speaker 1: and Felicity's friend from Felicity And I found out and
Speaker 1: it was really fun. What's j Johnson up to? She? Oh, so,
Speaker 1: I'm so happy. Actually lives in Canada and she is
Speaker 1: directing movies now. And according to her Wikipedia pig, she
Speaker 1: taught some kind of martial arts class in two thousand four.
Speaker 1: I have no idea what that's on her Wikipedia, but
Speaker 1: it is okay. The most recent funny thing from my history,
Speaker 1: I think is Ratzenburger Star Wars, because for some reason,
Speaker 1: I was reading, Oh, here's what happened. I was reading,
Speaker 1: all right, I'm going to tell you about a little
Speaker 1: journey I want. On this morning, I was like, apparently
Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with how old everyone is. So I was like,
Speaker 1: how old is Carla Lali Music? And then when I
Speaker 1: found out how old she was, I learned that her
Speaker 1: father in law was Lorenzo Music, the voice of Garfield,
Speaker 1: and that Garfield is now voiced by someone whose name
Speaker 1: I forget, but who's an incredibly prolific voice actor, and
Speaker 1: that he's the third highest grossing performer actor in movies.
Speaker 1: And I was like, who is the highest grossing actor
Speaker 1: in movies? And I forget who that is too, but
Speaker 1: one of the top end of John Ratzenberger, who played
Speaker 1: of Claven on Cheers. You're really getting insight into, like
Speaker 1: the steel trapped my brain and I was, so, I
Speaker 1: was like, why is John Ratzenburger. Yeah, well, he's in
Speaker 1: every Pixar movie, right, Yeah, which I didn't know, and
Speaker 1: so I found out that he was in or every
Speaker 1: Pixar movie until but yes, every Pixar movie for like
Speaker 1: twenty two years or whatever it was. So he's in
Speaker 1: the top ten. And then I read on his Wikipedia
Speaker 1: pig that he was in The Empire Strikes Back, and
Speaker 1: I was like, no, he was not. And then I
Speaker 1: liked it up and you can see a picture of
Speaker 1: John Ratzenburger on the base on the ice planet has
Speaker 1: and the Empire strikes Back, and I was just so
Speaker 1: thrilled to learn that. And that's my little That's what
Speaker 1: happens when you like given to your unnecessary impulses to
Speaker 1: look up random people for no reason when he should
Speaker 1: be getting up and starting your day, right, because I
Speaker 1: think the highest is still sam Jackson, isn't it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: That is that is correct according to the list that
Speaker 1: I'm looking at, which name's earned that feels meritocratic because
Speaker 1: like the second he did those Star Wars prequels, it
Speaker 1: took him to the next level and then he added
Speaker 1: the mcuth stuff. And I think, but I think the
Speaker 1: like other like Robert Downey's like really close to I
Speaker 1: think now it's rise of the m c U performers
Speaker 1: being on that list. Yeah, I'm I'm looking at it.
Speaker 1: We we got to read it down for the listeners
Speaker 1: so that they're got crashing their car googling this themselves.
Speaker 1: We got Samuel L. Jackson number one, with like five
Speaker 1: point six Bill, Robert Downey Jr. Five point four Bill
Speaker 1: Tom Hanks that that feels merrit to cratic, as Sarah
Speaker 1: put it. Scarlett Johansson feels you know, I mean, these
Speaker 1: are all people who like they pick movies, well, you know,
Speaker 1: they like with the possible exception of Robert Downey Jr.
Speaker 1: Who who might be like, you know, he had he
Speaker 1: had his hits and missus, but like Samuel Jackson and
Speaker 1: Tom Hanks and Scarlett Joe Hanson, like they just nail
Speaker 1: it time after time. Bradley Cooper is a surprise for
Speaker 1: me coming in at number five, and I think that's
Speaker 1: more impressive because he's not in a Star Wars or
Speaker 1: m c Yeah, that's what Like all these other ones,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh yeah, like something pops into my head,
Speaker 1: like Bradley Cooper and Tom Hanks and Samuel Jackson, even
Speaker 1: though I guess he got the boost from them, Okay,
Speaker 1: justin saying Bradley Cooper is he's Rocket Rack, He's the voice.
Speaker 1: That's why off. So so basically everybody has the m
Speaker 1: c U. I guess Tom Cruise and Harrison Ford, Tom
Speaker 1: Hanks and Tom Hanks are non m c U people
Speaker 1: on this list. But you know what, there's there's some
Speaker 1: Ratzenberger Erasher because nowhere to be seen on the on
Speaker 1: the list that I'm looking at Daddy for maybe voice
Speaker 1: and also non voice actors. Yeah, so it depends on
Speaker 1: which list. So Cooper, if Cooper is doing it without
Speaker 1: without Rocket Raccoon, because that is just a voice performance
Speaker 1: as far as I know, unless they fit him into
Speaker 1: like a really tiny raccoon. I mean, he's got he's
Speaker 1: got a little facial mo cap stuff going on. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: so they do do a moe cap for him. That's incredible.
Speaker 1: I love the idea of Bradley Cooper trying to emulate
Speaker 1: a little raccoon. That's like, what a performer. Yeah, all right, well, Sarah,
Speaker 1: what is something you think is overrated? I think that
Speaker 1: cash shows have coasted as a snack nut. I have
Speaker 1: come to conclude because I was eating a mixture of
Speaker 1: peanuts and cashews the other day and I found myself
Speaker 1: really favoring the peanuts, and that got me to thinking
Speaker 1: about the fact that cash shows are more expensive, more
Speaker 1: difficult to harvest. I think, like the labor involved in
Speaker 1: making cashews is a lot more intense. I don't think
Speaker 1: we were they grow them domestically, and so now I
Speaker 1: have a conspiracy theory that cashews aren't better than peanuts.
Speaker 1: They're just more difficult to obtain, right, Like we're like
Speaker 1: at the will of the old like nut prices of
Speaker 1: the nineteenth century, where they're like cash shows are like gold,
Speaker 1: and we're still like, I don't know, the taste isn't
Speaker 1: that great compared to a peanut, because like cashews have
Speaker 1: a flavor, but they don't have that peanut bite. I'm
Speaker 1: I'm cash you gang. I love I love cashows, despite
Speaker 1: the fact that they when you look at them and
Speaker 1: how they're grown, they do look like the poop of
Speaker 1: another fruit, just like little curly things that hang out
Speaker 1: at the bottom of what looks like a pepper, like
Speaker 1: a yellow bell pepper. And I still I still love
Speaker 1: them because they're soft. They're they're softer, so like they
Speaker 1: don't get that little easy on the teeth, easy on
Speaker 1: the teeth and easy on the like I don't get
Speaker 1: the little child like almonds. I feel like I'm eating
Speaker 1: little piece of wood and the wood pellets like get
Speaker 1: get my throat and then I'm having coughing fits like
Speaker 1: out of nowhere, Like forty five minutes later, I'm just like,
Speaker 1: all right, well, this conversation is ruined. I'll be over
Speaker 1: here coughing like you've poisoned me for for the next
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes instead of having a conversation. But but cashews
Speaker 1: don't don't really funk with me like that because they're
Speaker 1: just I don't know, I think they start very soft
Speaker 1: and even after they're roasted. They they're they're soft and
Speaker 1: easy to get down. I swallow? That is that not correct?
Speaker 1: Kind of winning me over? I should try doing that,
Speaker 1: But yeah, the softness of the nut, I hadn't thought
Speaker 1: of that. You're right, because like most nuts situations, you're like,
Speaker 1: I am working to obtain these calories and cashews just
Speaker 1: like want to get inside of you. That is a
Speaker 1: good quality. What is the flavor thing? Not a knock
Speaker 1: against it. It's pretty blame m hm. You know what
Speaker 1: I like the flavor. It's like salty and kind of
Speaker 1: creamy to me, right, No, I mean I get I
Speaker 1: I funk with all the textures if it's probably rich
Speaker 1: in oils, that's why it's very easy on the teeth.
Speaker 1: But I don't know, like the flavor of a cash
Speaker 1: you treat isn't as appealing to me as a flavor
Speaker 1: of like a peanut treat. Just going off of that alone,
Speaker 1: that's all I'm saying, and that's all I have to say.
Speaker 1: And there's no need to escalate this discreament any further.
Speaker 1: I mean, if we're going peanuts first, cash shoes like that.
Speaker 1: In terms of overrated underrated, like how many candy bars
Speaker 1: are there that have cash who is as an ingredient
Speaker 1: like zero, right, yeah, we have no basis for comparison.
Speaker 1: We're flying back. I don't know, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And maybe maybe that's where I'm being, you know, robbed
Speaker 1: as a consumer of not being able to have those
Speaker 1: cashew choices uh in my in my candy bars. But
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with these fucking peanut ones because I fucking
Speaker 1: love to fun out. Yeah no, I yeah, I'm happy
Speaker 1: with the place that peanuts as the predominant, Like peanut
Speaker 1: butter is one of my you know, probably takes up
Speaker 1: about thirty percent of the calories I can simple type.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, yeah, it's not good. Actually it's very
Speaker 1: very bad. I think I think I paused yesterday's recording
Speaker 1: of TDZ to take a big bite of peanut butter
Speaker 1: toast Miles. Miles called it out and was like, that's
Speaker 1: the worst possible thing you could be taking a massive
Speaker 1: bite of, like right as we're introducing mouth glue while
Speaker 1: you record your podcast and just intentionally wading into the
Speaker 1: waters of that erin Burr Michael Bay commercial commercial was incredible,
Speaker 1: Like I really love how many people absolutely remember it,
Speaker 1: like they like no trouble at all. You say Aaron
Speaker 1: Burr and they're like, oh yeah, still the best thing
Speaker 1: Michael Bay has ever directed. I didn't watch Hamilton's because
Speaker 1: of that commercial is complete. Yeah, I'm like really to learn, right,
Speaker 1: I was like I already learned the parable of the
Speaker 1: man in the body cast who was trying to was
Speaker 1: that kind of body I don't know, I don't think
Speaker 1: you know, Oh he's a an Aaron Burr museum. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a different guy. And we're like the fighting
Speaker 1: like muskets like in a box. Next there was some
Speaker 1: other like artifact. Next, Yeah, he had all the all
Speaker 1: the artifacts there. The the Body Cast is a different
Speaker 1: Got Milk commercial. Yeah, Sarah, what is something you think
Speaker 1: is underrated? This is such a beautiful segue because actually
Speaker 1: I wanted to plug chocolate milk and it's I'm happy
Speaker 1: that we have sort of wandered over to the milk
Speaker 1: campaigns of the nineties because when I was a kid,
Speaker 1: I actually owned a book of the Milk Ads where
Speaker 1: they had the celebrities with milk mustaches, which was a
Speaker 1: different campaign from the Got Milk ad, which is like,
Speaker 1: I can't I don't know. There's something very nineties about
Speaker 1: growing up with like two different and equally prominent milk campaigns.
Speaker 1: Maybe I should do a podcast about that. But so
Speaker 1: I'm not a milk booster by any means, but I
Speaker 1: think chocolate milk is like an incredibly decadent, delicious, perfect dessert, snack, whatever,
Speaker 1: And I think that a lot of adults are sleeping
Speaker 1: on it because we just remember we think of it
Speaker 1: as a food of childhood. Maybe and we haven't. We
Speaker 1: it's not integrated into our lives. But like, I think
Speaker 1: if you would never had chocolate milk in your life
Speaker 1: and you had some today, you would be like, what
Speaker 1: is this brand new, incredible product that I is going
Speaker 1: to be the new trend food. I think it's I
Speaker 1: think that we've been sleeping on chocolate milk as adults. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a shame, you know that we're too mature. Our
Speaker 1: palates have gone beyond the chocolate milk. And I just
Speaker 1: started drinking mochas in the morning. Like when I walk
Speaker 1: by this coffee shop, I'm like, you know what I want,
Speaker 1: hot chocolate with a little bit of coffee in it.
Speaker 1: And I'm not upset about that. That's what I need.
Speaker 1: And the chocolate toatally that oat milk has brought me
Speaker 1: back into drinking chocolate stuff again, because like, as if
Speaker 1: it's so funny you bring up like the like I'm
Speaker 1: like sort of self awareness around being an adult buying
Speaker 1: chocolate milk. But in my mind of like, there's a
Speaker 1: new oatly thing that's out there. It's oat milk and
Speaker 1: it's chocolate, so might as well try that in the world. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have babies milk. Um. What were the nineties chocolate
Speaker 1: milk campaigns? Like they were they just like they got
Speaker 1: milk campaigns, but just with a chocolate milk mustache. I mean,
Speaker 1: I want to say that they did at least one
Speaker 1: of those where they had somebody drinking milk with And
Speaker 1: I could be totally making that up because this is
Speaker 1: how memory works. It seems like something that would have happened.
Speaker 1: I feel like I could have seen that. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but I'm curious about what all that was about. You
Speaker 1: said you had a whole book of tradition, So I
Speaker 1: had a book of no just right, remember as they
Speaker 1: were like the normal campaigne and the other normal milk candle? Yes,
Speaker 1: did you know the human head whiz? That's what campaign
Speaker 1: do you remember the actual mustaches though from those ads
Speaker 1: it was not milk at all, and I was that
Speaker 1: always bugged me as a kid looking at those ads
Speaker 1: and like whatever they're drinking is so fucking thick because
Speaker 1: it looks like white out on their mouth, and I'm
Speaker 1: like this, there's just a I don't know that. It
Speaker 1: felt like, yeah, it's impossible for me to get behind.
Speaker 1: I mean it talked about that. I think they were like,
Speaker 1: it's part ice cream and maybe that it was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to say ice cream was involved, but I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: what a It's always funny to me when there's some
Speaker 1: kind of national campaign for just a food that doesn't
Speaker 1: have a brand behind it, Like I feel like we
Speaker 1: also got a lot of ads for eggs as a concept. Yeah, eggs,
Speaker 1: they're they're pretty good, right, all those remember when it
Speaker 1: was like beef, you know, like, oh my god, the
Speaker 1: other white meat, the other white Oh my god. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's very depressing to me, Like how how much I
Speaker 1: loved these commercials when I was like eleven And I
Speaker 1: remember a friend when we were like ten, we like
Speaker 1: found the phrase no, we're calling something the other white
Speaker 1: meat that we thought was very funny. And be just
Speaker 1: how yeah, this thing where like like I fondly remember
Speaker 1: all of these very sort of weird, high powered, you know,
Speaker 1: probably quite cynical ad campaigns from my childhood, and it's
Speaker 1: like that's the culture that you end up with. Kind
Speaker 1: of a bummer at the same time, Like I I've
Speaker 1: talked a lot about you know, big dairy being like
Speaker 1: the original power industry in America that like you know,
Speaker 1: caused a lot of it's caused a lot of people
Speaker 1: to die earlier, and then they probably should have. The
Speaker 1: only time that American obesity and heart disease deaths like
Speaker 1: dropped like to a normal global average was during World
Speaker 1: War Two when there were dairy rations, and then the
Speaker 1: second they stopped rationing the dairy it went popped back up.
Speaker 1: Same time, Like if we're comparing that too, you know,
Speaker 1: the foods that we are advertised today on a on
Speaker 1: a regular basis, and like the state of the human
Speaker 1: body today versus like the nineteen fifties, sixties, seventies, like
Speaker 1: it's it's probably okay by comparison, I would say, hmm,
Speaker 1: I was really thinking you were going to talk about
Speaker 1: raw milk deaths because my favorite fact about Nixon, which
Speaker 1: at this point is old enough in my brain that
Speaker 1: I'm sure I'm getting something a little wrong because that's
Speaker 1: how it goes. But is that I believe that when
Speaker 1: he was a child he had a sibling who died
Speaker 1: after consuming raw milk. That was, you know, was something
Speaker 1: wrong with it, as can happen, and that's and that
Speaker 1: like influenced his desire to regulate the milk industry and
Speaker 1: industries generally, which is like, you know, yeah, one of
Speaker 1: those moments where you're like, Nixon mostly a monster but
Speaker 1: had some some ideas. That was a weird campaign, the
Speaker 1: Nixon mostly a monster, but yeah, that had some weird
Speaker 1: ideas with nixing masks on and yeah, mixing. He's been
Speaker 1: through a personal trauma directly connected to the topic Nixon.
Speaker 1: It will get worse. There are chocolate milk ads. I
Speaker 1: forgot about these. They they've been out for a couple
Speaker 1: of years where it's like athletes saying that the yeah
Speaker 1: they refuel with chocolate milk. There's Al Morford the basketball
Speaker 1: players like I'm built with chocolate milk. There's one Carmelo
Speaker 1: Anthony's like when I gave ten percent in a game,
Speaker 1: I got to finish it with chocolate milk. Another one
Speaker 1: with Clay Thompson's official recovery drink of Kevin Love. It's interesting.
Speaker 1: It's like I've always thought that's a very specific tier
Speaker 1: of athletes, like they're sub gatrid, but like you know,
Speaker 1: they're like, like it's not Steph Curry, it's Clay Thompson. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not Lebron James, it's Al Horford James. It's Kevin Love.
Speaker 1: It's not Lebron James. It's not even Kyrie Irving. It's
Speaker 1: Ken Love. Ke being like, hey man, that's how I
Speaker 1: was built. But I get it, you know. Maybe it's
Speaker 1: it almost reminds me like that meme of like when
Speaker 1: you grow up with like athletes, it's like who just
Speaker 1: don't put anything into themselves, but are somehow like at
Speaker 1: their peak levels, you know what I mean. Like they're
Speaker 1: like I don't have a trainer, Like I don't eat right,
Speaker 1: I'm just kind of gifted. That's almost like what these
Speaker 1: ads make me feel like. It's like I don't know, dude,
Speaker 1: I drink chocolate milk. Yeah, an NBA, So I check
Speaker 1: it out. My body is sickly a miracle. Science should
Speaker 1: study it. But do you could try drinking chocolate milk.
Speaker 1: See how that works for you. Not as well as
Speaker 1: it works for me. You'll probably guess to get it
Speaker 1: now whatever. But I know, like I have a my
Speaker 1: brother in law is actually a really great like long
Speaker 1: distance runner, and he's been known to like slam a
Speaker 1: thing of chocolate milk after he does a long, a
Speaker 1: long training run. So I think there's something. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like it's good stuff in it. Hey, and this ad
Speaker 1: is Clay Thompson with the basketball. Is it's the ideal
Speaker 1: three pointer. Nutrients to refuel, natural protein to rebuild, backed
Speaker 1: by science. Yeah, there is that. There's nutrients and protein technically,
Speaker 1: but don't talk about the sugar, right, That's all good, No,
Speaker 1: it's irrelevant. Alright, let's take a quick break and we'll
Speaker 1: come back and talk about Fox News the Kremlin, the
Speaker 1: whole confusing slash not that confusing situation in Ukraine. And
Speaker 1: we're back, and so Fox News that they're having some
Speaker 1: disagreements about how who's to blame for the situation Ukraine.
Speaker 1: I think it's pretty pretty straightforward. I think I think
Speaker 1: I think we got a guy, we got a good candidate.
Speaker 1: We gotta suspect that there's a lot of nuance to
Speaker 1: if you choose to look at it for the right
Speaker 1: reasons in good faith, or you could here a couple
Speaker 1: of talking points and then weaponize them because Fox News
Speaker 1: um and I think for most people who don't watch
Speaker 1: Fox News or who aren't like, you know, the gracist brained,
Speaker 1: they will watch the show, and that you can kind
Speaker 1: of watch how the pundits sort of like everything. A
Speaker 1: lot of the punditry feels like a stream of consciousness freestyle,
Speaker 1: like where you just have to connect certain like phrases
Speaker 1: like losing our freedoms, woke agenda and Biden is destroying
Speaker 1: this republic, and then you've got like a take somehow
Speaker 1: like ready made for any show on Fox. But if
Speaker 1: you aren't careful repeating the hot takes you're here around
Speaker 1: the office, I think may cause you a bit of
Speaker 1: on air tension, specifically on Fox and Friends, because Brian
Speaker 1: kill Meade and Rachel Campbell's Duffy had a bit of
Speaker 1: a you know, a disagreement over just sort of their
Speaker 1: geopolitical takes as it relates to the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
Speaker 1: Brian kill meat if you forget on Fox and Friends,
Speaker 1: whose past hits include things like the burning of the
Speaker 1: Fox News Christmas Tree is an attack on Christian America,
Speaker 1: or we need to reopen New York City in May
Speaker 1: of He's not the brightest star on Fox, but this
Speaker 1: week he was given a nice chance to be the
Speaker 1: smart guy when Rachel Campbell's duffy you know, decided to
Speaker 1: give her take on what is happening in Ukraine and
Speaker 1: who's at fault here? So will not be part of NATO.
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what you can never give into
Speaker 1: what Russia wants other nations to do. You you decide
Speaker 1: they're going to deciety, going to NATO, going into the
Speaker 1: European Union, when they're there at European society that wants that, well,
Speaker 1: we have a we have a Monroe doctrine, and I
Speaker 1: think we would be very concerned about this kind of
Speaker 1: action in our hemisphere. I think he said keep it
Speaker 1: neutral and in the end, probably Ukraine is going to
Speaker 1: lose more land because of this. Again, the main problem here,
Speaker 1: as you see, and as we discussed, well no, actually
Speaker 1: the main problem is still China. And now we've created
Speaker 1: a bigger block China and Russia together. This is why
Speaker 1: our policymakers aren't thinking long term provoking this. This war
Speaker 1: has brought our two enemies culture together. Well, they had
Speaker 1: a red line and we had an agreement in November
Speaker 1: with the other countries. Rachel, it's not up to them
Speaker 1: to make away. This is this is the fate of
Speaker 1: the geography of Ukraine, and they could have remained a
Speaker 1: free country. We could have armed them, We could have
Speaker 1: actually understand. Russia got their way. They lost their stooge
Speaker 1: in an election minute, They lost their stuge in election
Speaker 1: and had nothing to do with us. They took Crimea
Speaker 1: and the two dom Bas regions. So he goes on
Speaker 1: to state facts about certain things that have occurred. But
Speaker 1: you know, Rachel Campos Duffy, who obviously isn't just a
Speaker 1: former cast member of the San Francisco Real World cast.
Speaker 1: That's why I did not realize she was a Rael
Speaker 1: talking heads Rachel Okay, the season with Puck San Francisco
Speaker 1: and Pedro Okay, iconic season on Real World, that's wonderful,
Speaker 1: ascended to these the seas and I feel like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that was like the first season when I feel
Speaker 1: like they really started getting real and stopped, you know,
Speaker 1: whatever the fucking timeline is. Yeah, but that is that
Speaker 1: is such an iconic season, that's wild. Okay, So this
Speaker 1: is this is actually the debate I'm seeing a lot
Speaker 1: of people have, Like so that somebody had brought to
Speaker 1: my attention the work of um this international relations professor
Speaker 1: John Meerscheimer, and he's in the he's in the realist camp,
Speaker 1: of which they just they were smart when naming themselves,
Speaker 1: I guess. But this is the version of international relations
Speaker 1: where like great powers will inevitably fight, you know, will
Speaker 1: inevitably test each other. And you know, back in two
Speaker 1: thousand eight, this dude was like, we are fucking up
Speaker 1: by pushing a NATO agenda like in Ukraine because that's
Speaker 1: going to piss off Russia, and we want Russia as
Speaker 1: an ally because China is the real threat. So that's
Speaker 1: I think the talking points that are coming where where
Speaker 1: her talking points are coming from? Like the the realist point,
Speaker 1: Like this is something I even like took a class
Speaker 1: on in college. And like the problem with the realist
Speaker 1: model of international relations is it's deterministic. It's like this
Speaker 1: is inevitably how people behave. So like the key brings
Speaker 1: up the Monroe doctrine a lot as well, and basically says,
Speaker 1: look how the United States reacted when there were right
Speaker 1: Russia missiles in Cuba. They almost the the US almost
Speaker 1: ended the world. And so by trying to invite Ukraine
Speaker 1: into NATO, that is like the equivalent of that, and therefore,
Speaker 1: like they should never do that because this is just
Speaker 1: how the world works. And that That's always been my
Speaker 1: issue with the realist point of view is that it
Speaker 1: treats things as like fixed and inevitable and like, this
Speaker 1: is just how the world works, and you can't criticize
Speaker 1: it because this is just you know, Putin is just
Speaker 1: doing what a great power politician does, and there's no
Speaker 1: like normative judgment on it. It's just like, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: just how it works, and we need to befriend Putin
Speaker 1: and so that we have a stronger, you know, stance
Speaker 1: when it becomes the US versus China. So my issue,
Speaker 1: like I have agreed with some of the things I've said,
Speaker 1: like that the U. S should have been better at
Speaker 1: diplomacy when it came to conversations around NATO and Ukraine
Speaker 1: and when it came to things like Obama calling Russia
Speaker 1: like a regional power or you know, whatever you call them,
Speaker 1: Like those weren't great diplomatic moves, but like, does that
Speaker 1: mean that it's the United States fault for Putin like
Speaker 1: bombing maternity wards funck No, like into like that's the
Speaker 1: problem that deterministic thinking gets you into, is that you're
Speaker 1: just like there's no right or wrong. It's just like
Speaker 1: this is just the way it is, folks. Sorry, I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure Rachel Campbell's read Damersheimer New Yorker interview, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and found something that worked because you know, you have
Speaker 1: to go on Fox and you gotta do something that
Speaker 1: will at least hit Biden, you know, and this does
Speaker 1: given like somewhat of an intellectual argument as to the
Speaker 1: missteps that occurred, you know, historically to bring you know,
Speaker 1: to bring the situation to this point. But I think
Speaker 1: that's where I was saying earlier, is like she's using
Speaker 1: this to just use it for the spin on Fox
Speaker 1: to be like yeah, and we got her Monroe doctrine,
Speaker 1: like right, yeah, the Monroe doctrine by her, and this
Speaker 1: standard is it's like meer Scheimer says, it's an inevitability.
Speaker 1: Like they obviously like celebrate it and think it's like
Speaker 1: a you know, a religion to be celebrated. I would
Speaker 1: hope most people think it's a problem to be solved. Well,
Speaker 1: what that's And And even in that interview in the
Speaker 1: New Yorker, right, the journalist I don't want to get
Speaker 1: their name, Isaac cotton Er is who's interviewing him, saying, well, like,
Speaker 1: you know, but the Monroe Doctrine in a way is
Speaker 1: sort of saying that the US determines what any sovereign
Speaker 1: nations foreign policy is. So isn't that problematic? It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: but we've been doing that forever. Yeah, but we shouldn't.
Speaker 1: That's the Yeah, that's always like, that's like that entire
Speaker 1: interview is like, well what about this? Like yeah, but
Speaker 1: that's just how it is. And it's like, but that's
Speaker 1: fucked up and bad, and so how do we get better?
Speaker 1: And I get I guess for him, the realist part
Speaker 1: is saying, how could you ever think for a moment
Speaker 1: that these entrenched superpowers are first second gonna like have
Speaker 1: redefined what a nation state is or whatever so everybody
Speaker 1: can get along? Yeah, why does this feel? Like excerpts
Speaker 1: from family Therapy? You just treat things like they're always
Speaker 1: going to be that way, Dad, I'm trying to change
Speaker 1: the paradigm. Not everything is black and white. Oh isn't
Speaker 1: it either is or it isn't right now? It is it?
Speaker 1: Like what better opportunity to criticize your own nations like
Speaker 1: way of doing things. Then when everybod he is getting
Speaker 1: to see what it looks like when a nation acts
Speaker 1: the way that your nation does, you know, like that
Speaker 1: it's not a time to like dig in and be like, well,
Speaker 1: see this is how it is, and we should have
Speaker 1: been nicer to them so that like they wouldn't bomb
Speaker 1: these maternity wards and like that. Yeah, it's a it's
Speaker 1: a I think really the realist camp is a good
Speaker 1: way of describing how things have operated for a long
Speaker 1: span of history. I don't think it's a good way
Speaker 1: of like operating and like thinking the world should operate.
Speaker 1: It's a right and analytical lens to look through, not
Speaker 1: a philosophy to move into the society to the future.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, because you could look and like you
Speaker 1: would be like Meerscheren be like, well we've been overthrowing government.
Speaker 1: That's bad, right, I don't know, but yeah, it is.
Speaker 1: It's it's just interesting to watch that tension spill over
Speaker 1: on Fox too, because I think the other thing that
Speaker 1: Meerscheimer was arguing against, it's like it's too convenient for
Speaker 1: the West, and Western media just say yes, it's all
Speaker 1: just Vladimir Putin Bran completely extracting themselves from the diplomatic
Speaker 1: missteps that may have like in his worldview being like
Speaker 1: you can't poke up breaking a monster with a stick
Speaker 1: and then expect nothing to happen. That's just how That's
Speaker 1: just not how any of this stuff works. But even
Speaker 1: then you're just seeing like this kind of these world
Speaker 1: views trying to reconcile with each other on Fox News
Speaker 1: of all places. M hmmm, sir as like one of
Speaker 1: the smartest people I listened to, Like do you I
Speaker 1: feel like a lot of the stuff you guys have
Speaker 1: covered on your show is like a little bit further
Speaker 1: in the you know, rear view than like an war
Speaker 1: that is happening on a day to day basis. But
Speaker 1: like I'm just curious to hear, like, how do you
Speaker 1: follow a story like what what's happening in you? Kram
Speaker 1: m M. I'm doing follow a story like that? Do
Speaker 1: you have the emotional bandwidth? Unfortunately, the way that I
Speaker 1: can say news in the last couple of years is
Speaker 1: mostly from my friends telling me what's happening, and then
Speaker 1: that's how I know what's happening, because that's all we
Speaker 1: ever talked about anymore. I feel like there was a
Speaker 1: time when you could I don't know. I'm sure there
Speaker 1: are people who still live like this. It's strange to contemplate,
Speaker 1: but when you would just sort of like talk with
Speaker 1: friends and like current events wouldn't come up even once
Speaker 1: during a single day, And now it feels like that's
Speaker 1: just all we talk about, and so I feel like
Speaker 1: my filter, it's like my burnout is being accommodated by
Speaker 1: the fact that people are constantly bringing me headlines to discuss.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean I think it's I guess like
Speaker 1: it's both. It makes it both more and less underwhelming
Speaker 1: to engage with you know that what we're talking about
Speaker 1: today and be like, well this is this feels like
Speaker 1: the debate that we have been having forever about you know,
Speaker 1: what is human nature and this idea of like, well,
Speaker 1: here's a way humans behave selfishly. It's what we're destined
Speaker 1: to do. And if you try to to live differently
Speaker 1: or to believe in something, some other reality than you're
Speaker 1: a sucker, And I do think that's I guess it's
Speaker 1: like I follow stories by breaking them down to the
Speaker 1: ingredients in that way, right you get No, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna I could launch into a whole thing about why
Speaker 1: my belief in UFOs makes me feel good about doubting
Speaker 1: the realist point of view, and I will not do that.
Speaker 1: Do you really want to hear that? Man? Does this
Speaker 1: like connect to the sort of the themes of Arrival,
Speaker 1: which is that an aliens might just sort of lovingly
Speaker 1: pity us. I think that might be it, Like yeah,
Speaker 1: basically so, I don't know, Like I feel like we've
Speaker 1: seen a lot of ship that makes it that suggests
Speaker 1: that there is something that is much more technologically advanced
Speaker 1: than us that is present around us and is not
Speaker 1: like the military is aware of it and they don't
Speaker 1: want us to know about it. I think because the
Speaker 1: way that that alien technology behaves is so contrary to this,
Speaker 1: Like this, this sort of realist perspective on the world
Speaker 1: is what the entire Pentagon, the entire US economy, because
Speaker 1: it's so propped up by the military industrial complex, like
Speaker 1: that it's all based on this idea that like you
Speaker 1: have to be ready because someone's gonna come funk with
Speaker 1: you if they get just the slightest edge. And then
Speaker 1: these like these technologies that are like so far and
Speaker 1: above and like beyond what we like even our theoretical
Speaker 1: understanding of physics, like are coming through and just being
Speaker 1: like we're just gonna like check out your nuclear weapons
Speaker 1: plans to make sure you guys can't kill yourselves like
Speaker 1: all at the same time, and then we're gonna dip.
Speaker 1: It's like no, they like obviously, it's not a thing
Speaker 1: that like the more or advanced you get, the more
Speaker 1: you're just gonna like funk everyone over. And I'm granted
Speaker 1: that seems to be like other than a handful of
Speaker 1: movies like Rival, like that is the model that we
Speaker 1: get from our movies about aliens, but like it, like
Speaker 1: I actually believe that is the reason that the military
Speaker 1: is so intent on covering up the like contact and
Speaker 1: like you know, all of these instances of like encounters
Speaker 1: with technology that's like beyond our understanding. Is that those
Speaker 1: technologies exist, like apparently exists and aren't being used to
Speaker 1: just like murder us all and like that kind of
Speaker 1: sucks up their whole model and sucks up the whole
Speaker 1: like realist model too. This is my kind of conspiracy theory,
Speaker 1: I gotta say. And yeah, I feel I mean this
Speaker 1: connects with one of my core beliefs, which is that
Speaker 1: like the myth of the brilliant serial killer, like the mastermind,
Speaker 1: you know, murderer whatever. This idea that like murdering people
Speaker 1: connects them how to intelligence, which I think is like
Speaker 1: an unstated idea that we have. I think is it
Speaker 1: makes no sense to me because it's like people who
Speaker 1: are well adjusted and like doing well and at their
Speaker 1: peak don't murder people like they just don't. Not to
Speaker 1: sound like l Woods, but I feel like we have
Speaker 1: this sort of hannibal electric paradigm of like what if
Speaker 1: there was someone who is smarter than everyone else and
Speaker 1: really had their ship together and like shows with a
Speaker 1: free will to be a serial killer? And it's like,
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't know. I don't think that sanity
Speaker 1: really aligns with the need to kill people over and over.
Speaker 1: That's my take. Have you guys done damer On your
Speaker 1: wrong about we did, but a long time ago that
Speaker 1: was one of the first ones. Yeah, that is a
Speaker 1: really good example of this, Yeah, because I feel like,
Speaker 1: you know, Dahmer happened after Sounds of the Lambs. It was,
Speaker 1: but it was like right at the same time, and
Speaker 1: like the zeitgeist was hungry for a like you know,
Speaker 1: part of the pundle, Like the zeitgeist was hungry for
Speaker 1: a cannibal, and they the serial killer was discovered who
Speaker 1: had body parts in his apartment, and the police like
Speaker 1: sort of got him to be like, yeah, I tried
Speaker 1: one like once, and they were like cannibal there, and
Speaker 1: thank you so much for knowing that, like he wasn't
Speaker 1: eating human flash as a main diet and that he
Speaker 1: had body parts just to have because like nobody knows that,
Speaker 1: and I realized it might seem like a fine distinction,
Speaker 1: but like it's weird, right, Like why would you need
Speaker 1: to grade inflate your headlines if you already have reality? Right?
Speaker 1: But he was he was like a blackout drunk who
Speaker 1: had like was just like bad at cleaning up after
Speaker 1: his murders and just like had the bodies all over
Speaker 1: the house because he was like a like exactly what
Speaker 1: you're talking about. He was a broken, destroyed human being
Speaker 1: who I think I really like wouldn't be surprised if
Speaker 1: the idea that he even tried to like tried one
Speaker 1: of the body parts was like kind of pressured into
Speaker 1: him by the police and he or just by his
Speaker 1: like realization that wow, people really respond when responded when
Speaker 1: I I said that, so, like I'm going to go
Speaker 1: with that right after someonce the lambs came out. But
Speaker 1: a really good question. I mean also and well, yeah,
Speaker 1: and speaking of people who have a detection, you know,
Speaker 1: it's like it's it. I don't think it's ever because
Speaker 1: of superior intelligence, And in Dahmer's case, it was because
Speaker 1: his victims were mainly people of color. He lived in
Speaker 1: a low income neighborhood and primarily a black neighborhood, and
Speaker 1: his neighbors complained about the fact that they seem to
Speaker 1: be living next to a serial killer. And he had
Speaker 1: victims escape and the police returned one of them to him,
Speaker 1: and you know, yeah, like you don't have you don't
Speaker 1: need a brilliant and like, causing harm isn't a sign
Speaker 1: of having your life together, and the ability to cause
Speaker 1: continued harm to the people around you also doesn't mean
Speaker 1: that you're smart. It means that the authorities don't care
Speaker 1: about the people you're hurting, right, Yeah, exactly. All right,
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and we'll come back and
Speaker 1: talk about Cassie. And we're back, and so are we
Speaker 1: fans in in this in this group of Demolition Man?
Speaker 1: What what? What are our thoughts on on the film
Speaker 1: Demolition Man? Oh? Very pro love it. I mean yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's a it's a work of art. It was
Speaker 1: made by a like an artist who right like he
Speaker 1: was a Marco Brambilla who who had not really made
Speaker 1: a movie. They were like, what if we gave this
Speaker 1: wild ass script to an artist and like saw what
Speaker 1: they did with it, and then they were like, I
Speaker 1: don't like making movies. This sucks and didn't really make
Speaker 1: anything else. He had such a vision that he was
Speaker 1: trying to apply and like the students like what He's like, dude,
Speaker 1: I'm an artist. What if this was in? And they're
Speaker 1: like no, And yeah, completely soured him on it. And
Speaker 1: now you'll probably see his work if you go to
Speaker 1: the Standard in New York. He does like amazing. I
Speaker 1: always talk about this guy's art because it's he's an
Speaker 1: amazing visual artist. If you're at the Standard in New York.
Speaker 1: The hotel has like a small miniaturized version of one
Speaker 1: of his art pieces. When you go up or down,
Speaker 1: there's like this like a collage of different film film
Speaker 1: like little he like like rotoscoping out little moments from
Speaker 1: film and shows either like the ascent into Heaven or
Speaker 1: the descent into Hell, depending on which direction you're going in.
Speaker 1: And the damn the elevator. I've been there and did
Speaker 1: not realize that was him, but that and if so,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, it makes so much sense. It
Speaker 1: does not given what I know of Demolition Man, because
Speaker 1: Demolisha Man does not have that sort of trippiness to it.
Speaker 1: But it is like a fully realized, like artistic vision
Speaker 1: of the future. And in that future, Taco Bell was
Speaker 1: a the only restaurant in existence and be consistent of
Speaker 1: fine dining featuring small portions of food with pretentious presentations.
Speaker 1: Taco Bell had won the what do they call it,
Speaker 1: like the franchise Wars. Franchise Wars. I'm a big fans, Like,
Speaker 1: is it implied that those were actual wars or just
Speaker 1: you know, like hostile take? I don't know, but don't
Speaker 1: we need a prequel? It would be better than that.
Speaker 1: Clone Wars thing like, yeah, let me see, like San Angels,
Speaker 1: like the ten years before John Spartan from Ratzenberger has
Speaker 1: to has to get in there, so the and it
Speaker 1: has to be full full Ratzenburger, not just a voice,
Speaker 1: so they he can take his place on the on
Speaker 1: the list of the most successful actors of all time.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so apparently KFC is going down a similar path,
Speaker 1: at least for the purposes of a marketing stunt that
Speaker 1: got us hook Line Singer. They fucking nailed this marketing
Speaker 1: stunt because we are talking about it and there's nothing
Speaker 1: anyone can do to keep us from talking about the
Speaker 1: fact that KFC is going prefix menu, a tasting menu,
Speaker 1: a dig a digu station menu featuring eleven courses, a
Speaker 1: wine pairing and yeah, baby, coust just over fifty dollars.
Speaker 1: So I don't know what kind of wing I mean,
Speaker 1: that's like five dollars. Of course I would do it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like that is a deal. That is so is
Speaker 1: the food KFC. Though the food is KFC. Let me
Speaker 1: let me take you through some of the courses. It's
Speaker 1: like the photographs that they have are what one is
Speaker 1: a single chicken wing being unveiled. Have you ever seen
Speaker 1: like those? Uh, when they do the deconstructive cooking and
Speaker 1: there's like a glass little like shell, yeah, glass dome
Speaker 1: on top of it with like foam or with steam
Speaker 1: in it, and then they like take it off and
Speaker 1: the steam like smoke. You have to get you the
Speaker 1: smoke flavor. They like hit it with smoke for a
Speaker 1: little bit, right, Yeah, so they got that but with
Speaker 1: a KFC chicken wing, a single KFC chicken wing and
Speaker 1: just like some fancy garnishes. So that I'm gonna just
Speaker 1: skip right to the one that really intrigues me because
Speaker 1: this this feels like a genuinely creative idea. There is
Speaker 1: a bun that comes with a gravy candle, and as
Speaker 1: this gravy candle melts, you can dip your bun into
Speaker 1: the melted gravy wax. Yes, I'm back. I'm so in
Speaker 1: love that love that so much like candles, a gravy candle.
Speaker 1: It's funny, is that I thought that. Do you remember
Speaker 1: the Mario Lopez movie that they did, like the twenty
Speaker 1: minute Lifetime plays No Hot Colonel Colonel? Oh yeah I
Speaker 1: did not. I was I was so against that. I
Speaker 1: was like, this is terrible. This is completely against what
Speaker 1: Lifetime is for. I hate this thing where Lifetime and
Speaker 1: KFC are trying to be in on the joke about
Speaker 1: how they're both like things that we consume when we
Speaker 1: feel bad about ourselves and that's what they're for. But like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I feel like such a simp for
Speaker 1: a gimmick. But like I think this sounds amazing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they've taken some big swings. But in the past,
Speaker 1: they had that log, like the Yule log that smelled
Speaker 1: like spices. They had like a weird video game. There's
Speaker 1: there was a lot. They tried a lot, but this one.
Speaker 1: I like, you said, Sarah, I can They said gravy candle,
Speaker 1: And that's all I need to hear. All Right, I
Speaker 1: don't know if we're allowed to say this, super Producer, Becca,
Speaker 1: Are we allowed to talk about the fact that we
Speaker 1: have brought in house one of the KFC marketing geniuses.
Speaker 1: So one of our newest producers, super Producer beccar Ramos.
Speaker 1: She came to us from the world of marketing and
Speaker 1: worked on the KFC marketing team, and she single handedly
Speaker 1: came up with Mario Lope every single idea every single
Speaker 1: one of those ideas. No, I'm just joking. I don't
Speaker 1: work over co workers. She conceived all that ship man
Speaker 1: Mario Lopez getting a lot of burn on the Daily's
Speaker 1: Like Yesterday's Guests. Sarah was co starred with Mario Lopez
Speaker 1: and Felice Navy Dad Lifetime Christmas movie. So we Voke,
Speaker 1: we have Voke Lopez his name on the regular heir?
Speaker 1: But is this is this fancy feast? Can we get that?
Speaker 1: And here? Would you go to a restaurant where is this?
Speaker 1: Is this something? Or this is for another country where
Speaker 1: people it's Australia and it's a limited you have to
Speaker 1: like you have to like know the president to get
Speaker 1: to get on the list, the wait list. I don't
Speaker 1: know if that's true, but that's how I imagine things
Speaker 1: work in Australia. Yeah, hey, Ozzie's a gang, please get
Speaker 1: on that way list. Let us know truly work. Do
Speaker 1: you work for Ozzy KFC? Can you hook us up?
Speaker 1: Let I really want to see this cravy candle. The
Speaker 1: gravy candle just needs to become a thing like candles
Speaker 1: that like melt into various things that you can dip
Speaker 1: bred in, like give that to me ten years ago. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's so romantic. Yeah yeah kind of. Honestly, I'm so
Speaker 1: into this idea, Like I would go to a concert
Speaker 1: where they just lit one on fire and we watch
Speaker 1: them melt. I'm like, yeah, let's bring your own bread. Yeah,
Speaker 1: get a little dip. Yeah, come on yea, because it
Speaker 1: kind of solves the main problem with fond which is
Speaker 1: the like bubbling pot that is like just sitting there
Speaker 1: like a bathtub that various people have likely food into this.
Speaker 1: Everything is freshly melted, so you you don't feel like
Speaker 1: you're you know that there might be a toenail in
Speaker 1: there or whatever. That's fine to protein um, calcium. But
Speaker 1: the there are actual edible candles because I searched and
Speaker 1: I was like, please tell me, I can just get
Speaker 1: this on my own, and they're just putting me onto
Speaker 1: something that exists right now. I think most edible candles
Speaker 1: are like chocolate for like a birthday cake, so it
Speaker 1: mounts chocolate pond. The cake man. We had trick candles
Speaker 1: by accident from my four year old birthday party, and
Speaker 1: like that is that has changed my my children's relationship
Speaker 1: to candles in its entirety. Every candle they light, They're like,
Speaker 1: it's a candles in the world, no trust. I remember
Speaker 1: like a kid at one time at a like I
Speaker 1: was seven, and someone had tricked candles and everyone was like,
Speaker 1: oh wow, And this one kid was like watch this.
Speaker 1: He just licked his fingers and like snubbed out the
Speaker 1: flame on the wick and he's like that's the only
Speaker 1: way to put him out. We're like, this isn't even
Speaker 1: your fucking birthday, bro, that's out signed smoked a cigarette. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the kid who could, who could put the cigarette out
Speaker 1: on his tongue in in middle school, that was that kids.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know where his parents were, but
Speaker 1: he uh, he wanted to beat me up pretty bad
Speaker 1: actually now that I think about it, but shout out
Speaker 1: to him. But yeah, there there's something about being like
Speaker 1: the first kid to smoke and being the kid who
Speaker 1: can put a cigarette out on your tongue that I
Speaker 1: feel like there might be some overlap there. So I
Speaker 1: feel like I'm a little less excited about the other offerings.
Speaker 1: Besides the gravy candle. There's like one of them, like
Speaker 1: I mentioned, single chicken wing, but just you know, it
Speaker 1: has a smoky little what's that movie where everybody's under
Speaker 1: the dome, under the glass dome under there's there's one
Speaker 1: that's just three pieces of popcorn chicken, but then they
Speaker 1: like pour something on top of it and like serve
Speaker 1: it with like some curled up spinach leaves. The one
Speaker 1: that I feel like I just don't know how to
Speaker 1: feel about is an edible stencil art of Colonel Sanders face,
Speaker 1: which you were supposed to lick lick the likeness of
Speaker 1: Colonel Sanders awful plate. Now, yeah, that's where I'm back,
Speaker 1: But I don't know, but like I want every fast
Speaker 1: food company to do this, Like if McDonald's did this,
Speaker 1: I would be all over it. And like, I don't
Speaker 1: you find it absurd that McDonald's even has ads at
Speaker 1: this point. It's like they're just a constant, aren't they
Speaker 1: recession proof? Like that it's because do people ever did
Speaker 1: not go to McDonald's. But I mean, but they've been
Speaker 1: doing increasingly desperate stuff lately, I think, and like, listen,
Speaker 1: this is a desperate thing that would really pander to
Speaker 1: me directly, and I'm still somewhat relevant from a marketing perspective,
Speaker 1: So do it, you guys? Yeah, the marketing is only
Speaker 1: to get young, young children. I think at this point
Speaker 1: everybody else they're like, yeah, you guys get it. Kids
Speaker 1: love tasting menus. They I mean, I think we've proven
Speaker 1: we're all just kids. We just were chocolate milk drinking,
Speaker 1: plate licking, gravy candle loving adultfully. I mean, that is
Speaker 1: like a billion dollar marketing idea. Though that like a week.
Speaker 1: It's like restaurant week and you know l a, but
Speaker 1: like a restaurant week for all chain restaurants, where like
Speaker 1: they all offer their own tasting menu of like culinary
Speaker 1: creations Taco Bell using the same five ingredients they used
Speaker 1: for everything else, but like they you know, just new creative.
Speaker 1: I feel like that would get people interested. Yeah you should.
Speaker 1: You should. Hey, I'm gonna give you the ultimate compliments, Sarah,
Speaker 1: you should work in marketing creative. That was what I
Speaker 1: wanted to do when I was a kid, I loved commercials.
Speaker 1: I wasn't allowed to watch non PBS, so commercials were
Speaker 1: like this beautiful forbidden fruit and that probably never left me. Oh,
Speaker 1: that's the same one. My kids. They're the only like
Speaker 1: TV they're allowed to watch is like sports when I'm
Speaker 1: watching it, and so they just they ignore the ship
Speaker 1: out of the sports, but when the commercials come on,
Speaker 1: they just come right up to the TV and sit
Speaker 1: there like they're getting to watch like the yes, TC
Speaker 1: my favorite commercial. But that like that's where I got
Speaker 1: my evidence that like that's what these commercials like, that's
Speaker 1: why McDonald's still advertises, because you know, we've haven't almost
Speaker 1: never eaten at McDonald's in their lives, and they're like,
Speaker 1: I want McDonald's fries, Like, how do you even know
Speaker 1: what the fun McDonald's fries? Oh my god? That is why.
Speaker 1: It's because new people are being created. It's the only
Speaker 1: people who need to see McDonald's adds people who are five.
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly there, yeah exactly. Inoculate them, get them to
Speaker 1: understand what yet them. Well, Sarah, truly a pleasure having
Speaker 1: you on the daily Zeykegeist. Where can people find you?
Speaker 1: Follow you here? You all that good stuff? Yeah? Oh,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for having me. I forgot to
Speaker 1: say when you were giving me that wonderful introduction. I
Speaker 1: think there is no podcast royalty. We are all podcast
Speaker 1: fellow workers. It's a beautiful thing. Um, So you can
Speaker 1: find me on You're wrong about which is on Twitter
Speaker 1: at you're wrong about I am tweeting a lot about
Speaker 1: Jello history right now. Um at remember Underscore. Sarah and
Speaker 1: I also have a feelings podcasts about movies called You
Speaker 1: Are Good, which has not talked about Demolition Man yet,
Speaker 1: and I feel like that's really an oversight. What what's
Speaker 1: your what's a good starter episode for people on Your Good? Oh,
Speaker 1: we just released one about Arrival actually with Ryan Ken,
Speaker 1: which I think is I don't I just really love
Speaker 1: that one. I think it's like, it's it's about a
Speaker 1: great movie, it's a great conversation, it's a wonderful guest
Speaker 1: and just like really gets into, you know, like kind
Speaker 1: of what we were talking about before, this idea of
Speaker 1: like what if there was this tremendous power out there
Speaker 1: in the universe that viewed us with compassion and like
Speaker 1: how would we even figure out what to do with
Speaker 1: that information? And Yeah, it feels like a movie that
Speaker 1: continues to grow more relevant. Yeah. And is there a
Speaker 1: tweet or some of the work of social media you've
Speaker 1: been enjoying? Yes, well, so many, but so this is
Speaker 1: a tweet by Aaron Summers. At Summers Aaron who had
Speaker 1: this is actually two tweets. So there was an original
Speaker 1: tweet this morning that says we didn't have five bucks
Speaker 1: to be the tooth fairy last night and reaching some
Speaker 1: new frontier of Parenting's not five dollars of my daughter's
Speaker 1: own money in quotes from her stack and put it
Speaker 1: under her pillow. And then the follow up tweet to
Speaker 1: that an hour later says people commenting on my tooth
Speaker 1: fairy tweet that five dollars is too much dot dot dot.
Speaker 1: Tooth compensation has been stagnant since the early nineteen nineties.
Speaker 1: We believe deeply in fair pay, which, like, I love
Speaker 1: that it's a tooth. It's like it's the first. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I think if adults lost teeth regularly, like
Speaker 1: not in bar fights, we might be more inclined to
Speaker 1: compensate children better because, like, it is a process. I
Speaker 1: respect this philosophy. Yeah. Yeah, Also, it was five dollars
Speaker 1: of her own money. Come on, she's breaking even. I
Speaker 1: feel like all the people who are like that's too much,
Speaker 1: we're like CEOs of like John Deere and fucking Homeboy. Yeah. There,
Speaker 1: it's their inner capitalist coming up. Can't you can't just
Speaker 1: raise the rates? I only got a dollar they're getting five. No,
Speaker 1: we're not canceling student debt. But also like, but also
Speaker 1: the move was pretty capitalist, and like I took the
Speaker 1: home motherfucker's money and gave it back to them, So
Speaker 1: those people shouldn't be too man. Miles, where can people
Speaker 1: find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying? Find me
Speaker 1: on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. And also
Speaker 1: you know, you know, you know when you know me
Speaker 1: on four twenty day fans. But you know Jack and
Speaker 1: I we we have a basketball podcast coming out. I
Speaker 1: think we can say I think we will say that
Speaker 1: out loud if you listen this far, and we'll tease
Speaker 1: that out a little bit more. And we recorded an
Speaker 1: episode and it's good. I think it's good, a lot
Speaker 1: of fun. It's for the casuals like us, you know,
Speaker 1: when doing xs and os, for having a good time.
Speaker 1: So check it out. You'll you'll you'll you'll hear a
Speaker 1: title soon, you'll see some art coming soon. But I
Speaker 1: just want to get this ike gearing out there, primed
Speaker 1: and ready. Yes, we are doing a basketball podcast that
Speaker 1: is not a joke, so hopefully you'll support us. There
Speaker 1: a tweet I like it from Lauren Latus at Lauren Laptus,
Speaker 1: tweeting instead of I was today years old when I learned.
Speaker 1: Try I just learned, or I'm very stupid, But did
Speaker 1: you know that's great? Alright, a tweet I've been enjoying.
Speaker 1: I love John Boyce, who is like a I think
Speaker 1: he's a sports writer. For like one of the blogs
Speaker 1: he makes like fun documentaries. He made one about mm
Speaker 1: A fighting in a time of loneliness with Felix from
Speaker 1: a chop out trap house. Anyways, he tweeted, most of
Speaker 1: his tweets are just him being like giving the most
Speaker 1: down in the middle mainstream sports opinion possible, but that
Speaker 1: this was actually a good point. He said. Collegton baseball
Speaker 1: cards in the nineties immunized at least some of us
Speaker 1: from n f T s. You spend five dollars at
Speaker 1: the card shop on a Chuck knob block on base
Speaker 1: leaders card, because that's what Beckett says, then try to
Speaker 1: trade it and realize, oh ship, no kid in the
Speaker 1: entire neighborhood wants this at all, exactly right. You can
Speaker 1: find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien. You can
Speaker 1: find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist We're at the
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Speaker 1: our episodes. On our footnotes, we link off to the
Speaker 1: information that we talked about in today's episode as well.
Speaker 1: It's a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles,
Speaker 1: what song do we think people should go check out? Man?
Speaker 1: I was just I found like an old playlist that
Speaker 1: like I had typed out like an email from when
Speaker 1: I was just getting out of college, and there were
Speaker 1: some artists on there that I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I haven't listening to ship in years. And there's this
Speaker 1: one l a band called Moving Units that was like
Speaker 1: kind of one of these they're they're kind of like
Speaker 1: a post punk band. And I was at the time
Speaker 1: in college not really listening to anything except hip hop.
Speaker 1: And then, like you know, a couple of Pitchfork articles later,
Speaker 1: I'm listening to Moving Units and there's this one track
Speaker 1: called Anyone that's just kind of got this good. I
Speaker 1: don't know, but I consider this gateway music if you
Speaker 1: only listen to hip hop and need to broaden your horizons.
Speaker 1: Check out Anyone by Moving Units, because yeah, this is
Speaker 1: a good track, so check it out. I don't know
Speaker 1: myld lonely unit. I listened to a G unit get
Speaker 1: out of here with that? Hey, I mean to be honest.
Speaker 1: G unit is in it if you just take out
Speaker 1: the M O V I N and then G unit
Speaker 1: so they get the moving out of here, moving time
Speaker 1: for G units. All right? Well, the Daily Zey guys
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