Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to twenty three,
Speaker 1: Episode three of DIR Days Like Gee, a production by
Speaker 1: Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take a
Speaker 1: deep dive into America's share consciousness. And it's Wednesday, February nine.
Speaker 1: My name is Jack O'Brien ak. His name is Joe Burrow.
Speaker 1: He is kind of the dork. He is so lass cold.
Speaker 1: He's got Pete Davidson eyes. That is courtesy of Salcolm
Speaker 1: fuck Hat. It is based on my theory that Joe
Speaker 1: Burrow and Pete Davidson have the same eyes. Not really
Speaker 1: a theory, observation opinion. Maybe it's a roast. That's a roast,
Speaker 1: a roast, they're both like, I have a theory that
Speaker 1: like this is the direction that people seem to want
Speaker 1: hot dudes to head is to kind of have those
Speaker 1: buggy Pete Davidson Joe Burrow eyes or in some cases anyway,
Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to be joined by that voice you just
Speaker 1: heard today's very special guest co host and award winning
Speaker 1: podcast host or writer, podcast producer, voice artist and even
Speaker 1: though it's not one of his written credits, one of
Speaker 1: my favorite singers also my word old Twin. Although he's
Speaker 1: getting better than I think he's better than me now,
Speaker 1: So not not so much twin aspirationally my twin uh
Speaker 1: and not again not one of his written credits, which
Speaker 1: I'm a little insulted by it is jackies Na Nassy
Speaker 1: beincause Jockey's and not sy because uh n his I
Speaker 1: his song the side guy, And I know Jack jess
Speaker 1: me oh as my good friend Joe Rogan likes to
Speaker 1: say what happening is hi, y'all? Yes, beautiful the N
Speaker 1: word for me and Joe Rogan, only baby, how we
Speaker 1: do it? You said he's allowed to say it? I
Speaker 1: did you know people that that part of the news
Speaker 1: cycle didn't didn't come. You know, they're trying to it's
Speaker 1: because it's Black History Month. They don't want me to
Speaker 1: be blamed for so I appreciate it. But I did
Speaker 1: give him the card. Let me shut up for you
Speaker 1: know the black people that listened to the dailies, like guys,
Speaker 1: yeah coming my door. Yeah, we were rolling up on
Speaker 1: Joe Rogan. We're gonna shoot, y'all, We're gonna we're gonna
Speaker 1: shoot with kindness with It's okay in Texas, right, that's allowed?
Speaker 1: Is there where he is he's in I think he.
Speaker 1: I think he fled to Texas after being like l
Speaker 1: a changed and he was talking about counts, some like
Speaker 1: living in a on a compound where the only people
Speaker 1: he saw were like the weird white supremis us that
Speaker 1: he invited to his podcast. Uh, he was like, what's
Speaker 1: going on in alle is different? Now? Anyways, Jackies, we
Speaker 1: are thrilled, fortunately blessed to be joined by the host
Speaker 1: of the wonderful new podcast like a virgin. They are
Speaker 1: striking an intellect and wit. According to Last Culture, Rista's
Speaker 1: a queer champion. According to The New York Fucking Times,
Speaker 1: please welcome the hilarious, the talented Friend Toronto. Thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you for having me. I will say, without any context,
Speaker 1: this is quite a roller coaster ride of an introduction
Speaker 1: to a podcast. I feel like I know everything about
Speaker 1: y'all and also nothing, So you know, I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. It only it's only when I'm here.
Speaker 1: I think this is only when the Edward has dropped
Speaker 1: on the daily side. Guys, Yeah, you know, I I
Speaker 1: have I I um. I feel like that speaks for itself.
Speaker 1: But the thing that I wanted to comment on was
Speaker 1: or rather ask is what celebrity's eyes do I have? Oh,
Speaker 1: let's see, let's see if you're if this is what
Speaker 1: you're going for, if you're trying to paint a picture
Speaker 1: for the viewer. I mean, look, I'm seeing, I'm seeing
Speaker 1: a little bit. I'm seeing a little Freddie Mercury eyes. Uh,
Speaker 1: little Freddie Mercury eyes or maybe some maybe some Bruno
Speaker 1: Mars eyes. Beautiful. I don't know if this is assaulted
Speaker 1: to you another compliments. Both are very flattering. Both are
Speaker 1: very I was gonna say my favorite stand up comedian,
Speaker 1: Shade d s Oh yeah, I mean I get Shade
Speaker 1: a lot, honestly, truly, like an insufferable Instagram narcissist, a
Speaker 1: Latin non binary podcaster, I am suing, Okay, like absolutely
Speaker 1: a plagiarization of my life and the podcast Hollywood Pipeline.
Speaker 1: What the fuck? Yeah, I get it. I was. I
Speaker 1: wasn't assaulted for you, and this is the first time
Speaker 1: we've ever met. Thank you. I'm I'm here to to
Speaker 1: hold sex in the city accountable to that please just
Speaker 1: for having me, That's why I'm here. The daily sit guys,
Speaker 1: the heroes we need and deserve everywhere. We do like
Speaker 1: the front though, just a lot of confute, like a
Speaker 1: lot of information out of context to just have our
Speaker 1: guests really off off balance and our listeners just you know,
Speaker 1: we it's like hazing. We like to, you know, make
Speaker 1: sure that our listeners feel only the one, only the
Speaker 1: true heads last through the first five minutes, Fran Are
Speaker 1: you watching and just like that, are we watching? Yes?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, religiously, I'm not just watching, but I'm
Speaker 1: it's like appointment television. And I listened to not one,
Speaker 1: but two podcasts about and just like that every single episode. So, um,
Speaker 1: I am. Do you enjoy it? You know? Everybody, I'm like,
Speaker 1: why are you watching it? But I guess that's why
Speaker 1: we watch? You four? Are you too? So you know,
Speaker 1: enjoy that's a that's a complicated word. It's I don't
Speaker 1: know if anybody would really be able to answer that
Speaker 1: question specifically. Um, however, I will say it's very fun
Speaker 1: to talk about, and I have been unable to think
Speaker 1: about literally anything else, So I mean that at least
Speaker 1: it has in its favor and the testament to the
Speaker 1: writing I can I can say, I'm I'm definitely on
Speaker 1: a ride. I guess but I will say we talked
Speaker 1: about it a lot on Like a Virgin, So I
Speaker 1: love it. I could, I could talk about it for hours,
Speaker 1: but I'll spare you all. Yeah, let's give the listeners
Speaker 1: kind of an idea of what Like a Virgin is
Speaker 1: like beyond being a and just like that fan cast,
Speaker 1: you know, what do you all talk about? Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's a it's a mix of things. But me and
Speaker 1: my co host Rose damn you we kind of like
Speaker 1: unpack pop culture from your um with a lens from today.
Speaker 1: So you know, we'll take a deep dive into something
Speaker 1: like Buffy with a guess that you know is writing
Speaker 1: the book on Buffy, and we'll talk about what it
Speaker 1: meant to you know, a kind of a group of
Speaker 1: people that see it as a cult classic, and then
Speaker 1: how we think about it today with like the joh
Speaker 1: Sweden of it all, or like the way that those
Speaker 1: actors were treated on said or you know, like deep
Speaker 1: diving into Harry Potter and then talking about J. K. Rowlings, transphobia,
Speaker 1: things like that, and so m our, our kind of
Speaker 1: goal is to just like take things that we are
Speaker 1: have long been in our cultural historical lexicon, and I
Speaker 1: guess like talk about them in a modern context, but
Speaker 1: also just we're very irreverent and trolley and funny and
Speaker 1: we like to make fun of things, and so it's
Speaker 1: a great show. People need to go check it out.
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. Oh yeah, all right, Well, Fran
Speaker 1: we're going to get to know you a little bit
Speaker 1: better in a moment. First, we like to tell our
Speaker 1: listeners a couple of the things we're talking about today.
Speaker 1: The Oscar nominees were announced yesterday morning, which means the
Speaker 1: Daily Zeitgeist will look back at the Oscar nominees from
Speaker 1: five years ago. I have a thing, I think that
Speaker 1: the Oscars should be given five years after the fact
Speaker 1: so we can get all the you know, over excitement
Speaker 1: the Oscar campaigns out of our system and like see
Speaker 1: what what movies lasted and an impact. So we're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about the nominees from the year seventeen, celebrating the
Speaker 1: movies of the year seen and also the winners. And
Speaker 1: it's it's kind of a weird one because it's one
Speaker 1: of the very few times where I think most people
Speaker 1: agree they got best picture right, is that it's the
Speaker 1: moon might La like they were so surprised that they
Speaker 1: got it right, that they gave it to La La
Speaker 1: Land for a couple of minutes. But yeah, so we'll
Speaker 1: talk about that. I'm gonna pitch a couple of new
Speaker 1: categories for the Oscars because they're always talking about like
Speaker 1: we need to make this more fun to watch, and
Speaker 1: they're only strategy seems to be nominating Marvel movies for
Speaker 1: Best Picture, Like that seems to be the only thing
Speaker 1: that anyone's really proposed in in the mainstream media. So
Speaker 1: I want to talk about like categories that might be fun. Uh,
Speaker 1: And then we will do a quick look at this
Speaker 1: year's noms. We're gonna talk about banned books, Mouse being
Speaker 1: banned and seeing its sales skyrocket. We are going to
Speaker 1: talk about the new horny Build a Bear. Hopefully we
Speaker 1: will get to that because it's just it's not as
Speaker 1: horny as it needs to be and we love them.
Speaker 1: We we are a sex positive podcast, especially when it
Speaker 1: comes to Build a Bears. Yeah, always been our policy.
Speaker 1: Before we get to any of that frame, we do
Speaker 1: like to ask our guest, what is something from your
Speaker 1: search history? Oh Um, I have been binging America's next
Speaker 1: top Model for the first time and the last thing
Speaker 1: I was on was j Emanuel's Wikipedia page. He's the
Speaker 1: makeup artist and creative director. He's kind of one of
Speaker 1: the three like hosts of the show. Do y'all watch
Speaker 1: him American America's Next Tip Model or have you watched
Speaker 1: it before? What I like? I did a reality show
Speaker 1: podcast last year and one episode was dedicated to America's
Speaker 1: Next Top Model, The Tyra Banks Screaming episode Tiffany be Quiet,
Speaker 1: Tiffany Um, Yeah, it's it's amazing. It's it's so funny
Speaker 1: to watch the show now because like, if it were
Speaker 1: made today would be shut down immediately. But like it
Speaker 1: really did invent an entire genre of reality TV. So
Speaker 1: I I have been just retroactively, I guess, deep diving
Speaker 1: into things like jay Manuel Love. Yeah, what are you
Speaker 1: learning about jam Manuel? Well? I had no idea that
Speaker 1: he was bi racial. First of all, I just thought
Speaker 1: he was you know, got that l a tan or
Speaker 1: something I thought. Or I thought maybe he was Mexican um,
Speaker 1: which is not. And so yeah, his parents survived apartheid
Speaker 1: and he was I guess adopted in the United States,
Speaker 1: so so much from his background that I didn't know about.
Speaker 1: But I was also learning that like he was tire
Speaker 1: makeup artist forever and that's how he got the big
Speaker 1: and he originally wasn't supposed to be a part of
Speaker 1: the show. He was just gonna do Tira's makeup and
Speaker 1: then he you know, inevitably got folded into the what
Speaker 1: it is today and it was such a natural part
Speaker 1: of reality TV, so I thought it was I love
Speaker 1: learning about it, even though the show was so so
Speaker 1: problematic now, I mean because when what was that, like
Speaker 1: like early two thousand's right, like three four somewhere around
Speaker 1: there started. It's why it's wild. We're gonna do a
Speaker 1: whole episode on it on like a virgin. But like
Speaker 1: the level of like absolutely unhinged things that they did
Speaker 1: these girls, psychological warfare honestly to these eighteen year old girls,
Speaker 1: and a lot of gas lighting needed to to to
Speaker 1: kind of like convince them that what they were doing
Speaker 1: was completely normal. So, like all of the problematic things
Speaker 1: about the modeling industry and like makes it into a
Speaker 1: just a game where that's how you win, and that's yeah.
Speaker 1: I watched one season because a friend of mine was
Speaker 1: a contestant and she did well, but she you know,
Speaker 1: bailed after it. She she got knocked out and never
Speaker 1: did any modeling or anything. She came a lawyer, but
Speaker 1: that's definitely. Uh, I don't know if becoming a lawyer
Speaker 1: is good for anyone, but she's happy. Yeah, exactly, probably
Speaker 1: a little bit more stable, but the yeah, it is.
Speaker 1: You know, they're just straight up talking about the things
Speaker 1: that people are like should the modeling industry be this way?
Speaker 1: And they and they just straight up like make it
Speaker 1: get make it into a game, right, Yeah, it's it's
Speaker 1: it's absolutely bizonkers um. But that's an x X excellent television.
Speaker 1: That's why we watched reality TV. We want we don't.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, look, if it wasn't no drama,
Speaker 1: that wasn't no if it wasn't any any ship that
Speaker 1: we will be like, I don't know about that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to watch it. We will watch American Idol absolutely,
Speaker 1: which even American Idol is kind of problematic in many
Speaker 1: ways as far as they treat like their talent, at
Speaker 1: least it used to be back in the day. So
Speaker 1: justice for Jennifer Hudson honest, yeah, yeah, just when we
Speaker 1: were going to talk about the Oscars later, Justice for
Speaker 1: Jennifer Hudson again. Yeah, Oh, should you get nominated for
Speaker 1: That's right? That's right? Damn? How dare they? Does American
Speaker 1: Idols still do the thing where they have the person
Speaker 1: on who's struggling with a mental health crisis and then
Speaker 1: the judges just like kind of smirked through it? Is
Speaker 1: that still had Probably I haven't watched American Idols in
Speaker 1: this Taylor Hicks shout, I'll tell you what, Hicks. Wait,
Speaker 1: I think too. I think that maybe that was just
Speaker 1: the last season period, and we actually don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we don't really have no way of verifying whether that
Speaker 1: was the last season. So I guess we'll just never history.
Speaker 1: We'll leave it there. We'll leave it there. Taylor Hicks
Speaker 1: the last American Idol Taylor Hicks win. He was that
Speaker 1: why you guys stopped watching as a protest of Taylor
Speaker 1: Hicks winning. I actually like Taylor Hicks. I mean, there
Speaker 1: were more talented if he want this eason who have
Speaker 1: had a career beyond Taylor Hicks had a career. But
Speaker 1: I like Taylor Higgs. Oh like really can't sing, but
Speaker 1: it's really entertaining. Old gray head Salton Peppers. I sucked
Speaker 1: with Taylor Hicks, but he was not the best one.
Speaker 1: He should have been eliminated like week eight, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm from Chicago and we used to watch that as
Speaker 1: a family and so oh my gosh, no way, okay.
Speaker 1: So like, really, the person who wins American Idol is
Speaker 1: usually the one with the most Midwestern appeal or like
Speaker 1: middle of the country of anyone that's not in New
Speaker 1: York or l A. Like, that's the person that wins
Speaker 1: American Idol. I feel like Taylor Hicks was the kind
Speaker 1: of most palatable star that could have come absolutely because
Speaker 1: he is. It like Sunday More what I got. Everybody
Speaker 1: my grandma was like, oh Sunday morning. Oh let me
Speaker 1: listen to this church man, you know, for him. What's
Speaker 1: something you think is overrated? I was noodling on that.
Speaker 1: I really couldn't think of anything this morning that was
Speaker 1: overrated except for um urinals. I just I think that
Speaker 1: urinals are an unfinished idea. I don't really know why
Speaker 1: we use that. I don't you when you go when
Speaker 1: you go to Piana urinal, it's splashes back on your pants, bro,
Speaker 1: Like it's it's totally gross and it only saves you
Speaker 1: a few seconds of time. But like I think that
Speaker 1: like efficiency culture and like how we've like been taught
Speaker 1: to like make the most out of like every second.
Speaker 1: It's like so asinine and it's so much more relaxing
Speaker 1: to just sit on the toilet and pit just just
Speaker 1: piss sitting down, you know what I mean. Yeah, now listen,
Speaker 1: I'm with you, friend on the on the p and
Speaker 1: sitting down. I am an advocate. If I'm at the crib,
Speaker 1: my ass cheeks hitting the toilet sheet as much as
Speaker 1: they possibly can. But if I'm in the public, general policy,
Speaker 1: that's just general politics. But if I'm in the public,
Speaker 1: everybody else pan on that toilet seat. I don't know
Speaker 1: if I'm trying to sit on every which look is
Speaker 1: the is the male privilege because we don't have to
Speaker 1: sit down on every toilet seat when we use the
Speaker 1: rest room. But I do agree with you, urinals are
Speaker 1: are unfinished ideas. They never they just like put it.
Speaker 1: They came up with the idem theory and then put
Speaker 1: it in every restroom around the world and never took
Speaker 1: another look at it. If you had never heard of
Speaker 1: it before, and someone said you're gonna piss on this
Speaker 1: hole in the wall right next to someone else, like
Speaker 1: I just would never, I would never want to do that.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean brown kid culture, and we're taught,
Speaker 1: like our mom's teach us to hover over the toilet seat.
Speaker 1: But like your ass is already dirty, just just true.
Speaker 1: Just you know, bring bring a little wipes everywhere you go.
Speaker 1: He'll be fine. I don't know. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you noticed him, but I'm known around East part says
Speaker 1: the cleanest asked in American pride. So much pride and
Speaker 1: no germs being all my cheeks. I also think I
Speaker 1: also think urinals. This is probably a stretch, but I
Speaker 1: also think the actual urinal too, is a product of
Speaker 1: just dues being toxic a little bit, like to say,
Speaker 1: because because you're from Chicago, I don't know if you've
Speaker 1: ever been to Wrigley Field or not, but but so
Speaker 1: you know, those bathrooms used used to be a big
Speaker 1: ass open bucket where everybody trough, right, which is what
Speaker 1: I think they used to be before they became you.
Speaker 1: And people were just like, I don't want I'm touching
Speaker 1: elbows with this person and people looking down at my junk,
Speaker 1: and so they tried to separate them instead. But I
Speaker 1: think the trough is even better because it's way down.
Speaker 1: It's basically like you're pissing on the ground. No splashback thing.
Speaker 1: We should go back to all trough troughs for everything,
Speaker 1: troughs for every bathroom experience. Right, yes, awesome, We're so
Speaker 1: good at ideas. I feel like the urinal cake industry
Speaker 1: is what's keeping urinals around. Urinal cake and those like
Speaker 1: plastic things that they have to put there too, like
Speaker 1: doesn't splash, guards doesn't remove the splash, but it's I
Speaker 1: guess it like cuts back on it. And it also
Speaker 1: you know, makes the piss smell like, you know, like
Speaker 1: a clean piss. Right, Yeah, it's always nice. Yeah. Wow,
Speaker 1: what a great overrated? That is one of one of
Speaker 1: an all time grade overrated. What is something that you
Speaker 1: think is underrated? Underrated? You know, I don't want to
Speaker 1: insult this cultural identity by calling it underrated, but I
Speaker 1: will say not enough people are watching Abbott Elementary. Have
Speaker 1: y'all heard of this show? Just one of my favorite
Speaker 1: first of all, Yes, black black sitcoms are back in
Speaker 1: its beautiful Elementary is truly one of my favorite new
Speaker 1: shows that I've seen in the long best time. It's
Speaker 1: so good. Have you all talked about it on the
Speaker 1: show already. We haven't. Uh, it's amazing. I mean basically
Speaker 1: the gist is it's a Philadelphia like elementary school that
Speaker 1: is kind of parks and wrecked um slash the office
Speaker 1: style mockumentary and all these teachers are just basically trying
Speaker 1: to improve the education of these kids in very funny ways.
Speaker 1: And it kind of exposes and pokes found at how
Speaker 1: underfunded literally all schools are, and how they don't have
Speaker 1: the budget to do anything. And it's I mean, like
Speaker 1: to a comical degree that they have to like go
Speaker 1: to great lengths to try and get these kids, you know,
Speaker 1: new rugs or like a gifted program or things like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: what do you think about it? It? First of all
Speaker 1: its office like with with black folks centered in the middle,
Speaker 1: which is really cool to see. And I the thing
Speaker 1: I love about it is the writing is so specific
Speaker 1: and so funny. And everybody on that cast is eating everybody.
Speaker 1: Janelle James is fucking eating Tyler Christopher what he is
Speaker 1: or what's what's I always forget Tyler something Williams, especially
Speaker 1: that everybody loves Chris or hates Chris. Tyler, He's fucking
Speaker 1: eating like he's a genius. His dad pand look everybody
Speaker 1: on that show. If if multiple people don't win Emmy's
Speaker 1: on Avid Elementary, there's a flaw in the system. Because
Speaker 1: they're all so good as a cast and ensemble. And
Speaker 1: that's what I love most about it is the ensemble
Speaker 1: is very strong and missed his so well together that
Speaker 1: I think it's one of the best shows in the
Speaker 1: new you know, freshman class of TV. Tyler James william
Speaker 1: I have to call them man Tyler, Christopher Williams. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: this this show is incredible. It also has, even though
Speaker 1: there's no explicitly queer characters, that has a queer appeal
Speaker 1: because Chessie from The Parent Trap is in it. And
Speaker 1: Chessie was, you know, a lesbian awakening for so many
Speaker 1: baby gays back in the day, and she looks exactly
Speaker 1: the same and her and her character is so funny too.
Speaker 1: But yeah, just as you were saying, like every character
Speaker 1: is so rich, and it also digs up these archetypes
Speaker 1: from your past life that you never thought about, like
Speaker 1: the school nurse and like their deal and like how
Speaker 1: they're so over it, you know, like it was. It's
Speaker 1: it's such a. There's such funny archetypes in this school,
Speaker 1: you know, from the principle to the janitor, and I
Speaker 1: just like it's NonStop fun. Every joke is funny and just,
Speaker 1: and the casting is sublime. It's so good. Watch it.
Speaker 1: Watch it everybody. It definitely feels like it's getting a
Speaker 1: lot of love from is definitely on my list. I
Speaker 1: just haven't watched. I haven't taken the time to like
Speaker 1: put it into my DVR, but it definitely feels like
Speaker 1: it's getting the sort of love that like the prestige
Speaker 1: like HBO shows, Like the people who are usually talking
Speaker 1: about those shows are talking about this, which I mean,
Speaker 1: that's that's big for a for a network. I feel
Speaker 1: like networks not just this year, but like it's been
Speaker 1: it's been a while since they kind of hit one
Speaker 1: that everybody was like, Yes, that's why I said underrated,
Speaker 1: because I was like anything on network television, like people
Speaker 1: aren't watching that. It's it's super underrated, but a lot
Speaker 1: of people are starting. It's getting net word of mouth.
Speaker 1: And again, I just wanna, I wanna take your underrated
Speaker 1: just a little even further and say the black sitcom
Speaker 1: Grant Crew is great. Abbott Elementary is so good. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of really dope black lead sitcoms that are
Speaker 1: coming back to the forefront this freshman year and in
Speaker 1: their freshman year of seasons, and it's pretty dope to watch.
Speaker 1: It's really dope to see networks giving the black sitcom
Speaker 1: a chance again, because is very weird that in the
Speaker 1: nineties when I was a child, there was more black television,
Speaker 1: like and more than there than there was from like
Speaker 1: two thousand and two thousand twenty, and that's that was
Speaker 1: so weird to me. We went backwards in a very
Speaker 1: weird way. So it's really dope to not only have
Speaker 1: like a show that like was written by a black
Speaker 1: woman that succeeding, but it's on ABC and it's getting
Speaker 1: in play. So shout out, shout out to them, love love,
Speaker 1: thanks for that. Yeah, all right, let's take a quick
Speaker 1: break and we'll come back and talk about the Oscars.
Speaker 1: And we're back, and uh, the Oscar nominees are out
Speaker 1: and you know, well, well everybody is talking about who
Speaker 1: got in, who got out, who snubs and flubs and
Speaker 1: all all that ship from this year. I do like
Speaker 1: to look five years ago. This is an idea that
Speaker 1: I think I stole from Bill Simmons, the sports writer
Speaker 1: who got the idea basically for like the sports world,
Speaker 1: like when there's a Hall of Fame ballot, they don't
Speaker 1: just immediately like once a person retires, be like, well
Speaker 1: they go into the Hall of Fame because you know,
Speaker 1: you're too emotional and you just you don't have perspective yet.
Speaker 1: And like I feel like even if it's not the
Speaker 1: Academy Awards that ends up doing this, I do feel
Speaker 1: like a Hall of Fame four movies that like goes
Speaker 1: five or ten years in the future or in the
Speaker 1: past for for each year, it would be fun and
Speaker 1: you you wouldn't get your green books coming through. Yeah,
Speaker 1: k green Book one, right Book one like two years
Speaker 1: ago or three years ago, like green Book one after
Speaker 1: Moonlight right after it was such a r Even though
Speaker 1: I love me some rehearsal Adelie, I think he is
Speaker 1: one of the best in the industry. Right out green
Speaker 1: Book was whack whack. We should be you know what,
Speaker 1: not to jump the gun here, but I do think
Speaker 1: we should be able to take nominations away like after
Speaker 1: a few years after we look you know how they
Speaker 1: always be like Academy Award nominate. We should be able
Speaker 1: to take that damn tag away after a while and
Speaker 1: be like, you know what we thought about it. Actually,
Speaker 1: it wasn't an Academy Award nominated worthy. If you want
Speaker 1: to keep your Union card, you have to come to
Speaker 1: the ceremony where it's being taken from you and given
Speaker 1: to somebody else, or honestly or honestly, we should be
Speaker 1: able to give retroactive nominations to people, because, let me
Speaker 1: tell you, Jennifer hud Jennifer Hudson, j LO deserves one
Speaker 1: for Hustlers, Okay, like I think Tony Collette needs one
Speaker 1: for Hereditary. I think a decade from now we should
Speaker 1: give one to Gaga for House of Gucci. Honestly, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're still gonna be watching it. We're still going to
Speaker 1: be talking about it, like you asked, three hour movie,
Speaker 1: we're gonna watch just for Gaga and also and and
Speaker 1: and to be clear, today we understand she didn't get nominated.
Speaker 1: We understand like, yeah, she didn't get nominated today. But
Speaker 1: now once we live with this, exactly gonna be like,
Speaker 1: oh that she was dope exactly exactly, you got it
Speaker 1: cares about the accent? Who cares which they also said
Speaker 1: about ben the cumber Batch for they said, who cares
Speaker 1: about the accent? But they still give him and yeah,
Speaker 1: his aska, his accent was terrible, terrible. I always say
Speaker 1: he sounds like Hans Gruber and die Hard when he's
Speaker 1: trying to do an American accent, when he's like, oh
Speaker 1: oh my name is John right, It's like there are
Speaker 1: moments like it's a great performance. I'm not saying he
Speaker 1: shouldn't have been nominated. I'm just saying, if you're gonna
Speaker 1: get all picky about accents, yeah, funk out of here.
Speaker 1: And I watched that movie. I watched what was a
Speaker 1: House of Dot? I don't watch it looked bored as
Speaker 1: the eldest white people. Uh yeah, so you got to
Speaker 1: catch me to watch that. Yeah, I thought it was
Speaker 1: a very I think it would have been more successful
Speaker 1: as a short film. That's what I think. I think
Speaker 1: it was really really gorgeous and perfectly constructed, like it's
Speaker 1: it's masterful filmmaking. But I just think it should have
Speaker 1: been a short film. And I don't understand why. I
Speaker 1: mean the spoiler alert that Benedict commor Batch just like
Speaker 1: a closet a homosexual and like that didn't get folded
Speaker 1: into the story at all. Really, I mean kind of tip,
Speaker 1: but like, I don't know, I was I think there
Speaker 1: were some things about it that I've been love but
Speaker 1: I understand why. It's Oscar bait to the max. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's bait, there's Kristen Dunnest. Yeah, but it's the it's
Speaker 1: like dominating the awards, like they gave it to plements
Speaker 1: like Clemens. It's Plemons just being plements. Yeah, everything I
Speaker 1: see him, man, I I and everything, but most things
Speaker 1: I see him and I enjoy. He plays his role
Speaker 1: very well. Also, I think it's dope at a couple
Speaker 1: got nominated. They both got nominated for the first time.
Speaker 1: He's married or dating. I don't know if they're married
Speaker 1: or not to Kristen Kirsten Dunns. Yeah, yeah, I didn't
Speaker 1: know that either. Oh that's so sweet. Yeah, I thought
Speaker 1: that was pretty I thought that was dope. I thought
Speaker 1: that was pretty cool to see them both be excited
Speaker 1: about getting nominated for the first time. It's definitely a
Speaker 1: performance where you're not like, oh, they're definitely fucking like
Speaker 1: watching it does it does not scan that way at all,
Speaker 1: But that's it's that's a good, good performance. But anyways,
Speaker 1: I want to talk briefly for my selfish theory that
Speaker 1: we should be talking about movies five years ago. So
Speaker 1: this is this is the one where they got the
Speaker 1: best picture, right, Moonlight one. But I feel like there
Speaker 1: are lesser funk ups kind of all over the place,
Speaker 1: Like so Molly Shannon and other people, have you guys
Speaker 1: seen other people love that? And she's so good in it,
Speaker 1: funny and wasn't even nominated for Best Supporting Actress, which
Speaker 1: Viola Davis one four, but she was the best actress,
Speaker 1: Like she was straight up like all over that movie.
Speaker 1: She was definitely the lead in Fences, So like, yeah,
Speaker 1: put her in the lead actress category. Put and that's
Speaker 1: who wins Best Actress instead of yeah, oh she gained
Speaker 1: the system that year. She was like, you know what,
Speaker 1: but she could Best Actress, but I'm definitely going that's
Speaker 1: is that the Academy. Actually, she knew that they just
Speaker 1: needed to take out three of her lines and then
Speaker 1: she would qualify for supporting And she's like, could you
Speaker 1: please just added out three of my lines? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: So Chris Kelly, I thought I should have been nominated
Speaker 1: for other people who is the co creator and co
Speaker 1: writer the other two, which is one of the best,
Speaker 1: I say, underrated shows of the past couple of years.
Speaker 1: Agreed Pax saw Ridge is this is the year that
Speaker 1: had everybody was like, let's let's let Mel Gibson off
Speaker 1: the hook, give him a fucking Oscar nomination. It's very
Speaker 1: weird too, because like that was the I generally watched
Speaker 1: the Oscars with the reason I'm so like, I don't
Speaker 1: know much about this one was that's the one I
Speaker 1: didn't watch, and I was in a bar when the
Speaker 1: Best Picture nominee went down for this and like everybody
Speaker 1: like to then it was like la la land one
Speaker 1: and then everybody just went back to their drinks and
Speaker 1: then like two minutes later, like we were here in commotion,
Speaker 1: was like yo, but yeah, I don't I don't need
Speaker 1: Mel Gibson nominated for Best Director, which was like a
Speaker 1: surprise at the time. People weren't like this is the
Speaker 1: best directed movie. It's just you know, Mel Gibson blowing
Speaker 1: people up and making gross ship happen to human bodies loving.
Speaker 1: But Jeff Nichols, I feel like Jeff Nichols just in general,
Speaker 1: really good director who hasn't been nominated, so they I
Speaker 1: have I have a wild card for both five years
Speaker 1: ago and this year for Supporting act. The ray finds
Speaker 1: in Hail Caesar was just like like an unforgettable scene
Speaker 1: for me. Like that scene just like sticks in my head,
Speaker 1: just everything about his performance. He's only in it for
Speaker 1: like a couple of scenes, right, Like, But I don't
Speaker 1: know if that needs a separate category or if we
Speaker 1: just have like a best Scene, best cameo. That's the dot,
Speaker 1: that's the dope, because cameos are becoming especially you know
Speaker 1: with the Marvel movie for Real complex. Yeah, in the
Speaker 1: past fifteen years, cameos are it. There should be an
Speaker 1: aword for did the most with the least. I mean yeah,
Speaker 1: like I would, I would love that, Like I think
Speaker 1: this year's example is Bradley Cooper and Liquorice Pizza, Like
Speaker 1: is only on screen for like three minutes, but he
Speaker 1: is just so like, yeah, he just takes over the
Speaker 1: movie in a yeah, and he's playing Barbara Streisand's husband
Speaker 1: like a real Hollywood producer. Was like a monster and
Speaker 1: it's a real like it's just watching like a force
Speaker 1: of nature like passes through this movie. That's like somewhat unrelated,
Speaker 1: but you can't stop thinking about it even when he's
Speaker 1: not on screen. I kept waiting for him to come back.
Speaker 1: I'm never going to watch that movie, but I almost
Speaker 1: did because the trailer. The trailer convinced me that it
Speaker 1: was some sort of Barbara streisand like, you know, coming
Speaker 1: of age biopic. And I was because I didn't obviously
Speaker 1: didn't perform even a cursory google, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I would see that, and then you know, I googled
Speaker 1: and I was like, wait, this is about an adult
Speaker 1: woman who wants to fuck a teen, like wants to
Speaker 1: like date a teen, and the old premises that there
Speaker 1: is I just like, don't. I was like, I'm going
Speaker 1: to pass on that one, but cute name and I
Speaker 1: love love him. It'll be a cold Day in Hail
Speaker 1: before I watched Liquorice Pieces, Oh day, I'll watch Roots
Speaker 1: again before I watch the the I think Liquorice Pizza
Speaker 1: should like that. That's the one that made me think
Speaker 1: we should have a best trailer category because the trailer
Speaker 1: for that. First of all, I didn't realize until I
Speaker 1: listened to Life on Mars, Like in its entirety that
Speaker 1: basically Life on Mars is the plot of the movie
Speaker 1: for the most part, Like he just listened to Life
Speaker 1: on Mars and then wrote a movie, and it's it's
Speaker 1: just a great trailer that like that movie, nor most
Speaker 1: movies is able to live up to. But I think
Speaker 1: the best Trailer would be a fun category and you
Speaker 1: would get to watch it while you were watching the broadcast.
Speaker 1: I love that. I love best Trailer because they're they're
Speaker 1: they actually do need to bring a couple more categories
Speaker 1: because they there's always like three days of the Oscars.
Speaker 1: There's the two that we don't see when they give
Speaker 1: audio wars that they know don't nobody want to seek,
Speaker 1: and then like they have the actual they yeah, and
Speaker 1: then they have the actual ceremony. I would love a
Speaker 1: trailer category, But trailer has got to go back to
Speaker 1: what they was in the nineties. Voice over, you need
Speaker 1: the voice over, you need best performance by a voice yeah,
Speaker 1: if we if okay, so if we were to if
Speaker 1: we were to offer nominations for best Trailer, I would say,
Speaker 1: across the universe. Do you remember that Beatles movie? One
Speaker 1: long music video? Terrible movie, but like an amazing trailer.
Speaker 1: So like such an exciting conceit for a movie, even
Speaker 1: though it's like so average. But I also have to say,
Speaker 1: if we were to offer a did the Most with
Speaker 1: the Least, Drew Barrymore should have a nom for Scream
Speaker 1: because is one of the most phenomenal things she's ever
Speaker 1: done in her acting career period. I just saw the
Speaker 1: new Scream like a week last week or something, and
Speaker 1: the person I would with, I guess forgot because I thought,
Speaker 1: I don't want to spoil it. But I thought they
Speaker 1: were gonna do the same thing in the beginning of
Speaker 1: the movie. I guess that is a spoiler. Who gives
Speaker 1: a funk. If you ever seen screens the beginning, it's
Speaker 1: the beginning. I thought they were gonna do the same thing,
Speaker 1: and it was like, well, no, she's a star. And
Speaker 1: I was like, well, Drew bar when she got marked
Speaker 1: in the first five minutes of that movie, and that
Speaker 1: she was like revolutionary because especially in our age, we
Speaker 1: weren't used to that, like we were used to stars
Speaker 1: getting killed in the first we still aren't. Like when
Speaker 1: the other guys did it with the Rock and Sam Jackson,
Speaker 1: and it was so funny because you thought they were
Speaker 1: gonna be in the like it's such a really good
Speaker 1: trope that doesn't get used often, but the people who
Speaker 1: who it does get used with generally are fantastic. And
Speaker 1: those like three to five minutes there in the movie,
Speaker 1: did you think it was gonna do the same thing?
Speaker 1: Because it has the exact same title as the previous movie,
Speaker 1: It has the exact same title, and it started pretty
Speaker 1: much exactly the same it starts. It was great though.
Speaker 1: I did love the new Scream. I thought it was fun.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of work could be done in
Speaker 1: the Best Original Song category. From five years ago, La
Speaker 1: La Land had two songs nominated, Moanna had one, didn't
Speaker 1: even sniff the award, and You're Welcome, Like they gave
Speaker 1: up the opportunity, so you're I have a three year
Speaker 1: old and five year old, so like, I listened to
Speaker 1: a lot of moan a soundtrack, but You're Welcome is
Speaker 1: a fucking jam it really And they could have had
Speaker 1: they could have had the rock rapping at the Oscars,
Speaker 1: Like that's how you get people to watch the Oscars
Speaker 1: is like, I don't know. And then there's like some
Speaker 1: visual effects stuff like jungle Book one for that I
Speaker 1: feel like in retrospect with the live action Lion King
Speaker 1: under our belt, we recognize that maybe that's not the
Speaker 1: path for movies to head down as much. But I
Speaker 1: don't know. And then I think, like a new category
Speaker 1: that would be fun is like in camera especially effect
Speaker 1: like if you if you got to if you just
Speaker 1: did like the best like practical special effect, and then
Speaker 1: they like showed you how it was done in the
Speaker 1: category like during the show, that would be fun. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I have to say, how is this, I mean, what
Speaker 1: we're talking about when you're talking about like soundtrack, how
Speaker 1: is this Beyonce's first Oscar? Not what I thought? She
Speaker 1: was halfway to an ego already, Like I'm so confused.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I also feel like, you know, en Conto
Speaker 1: like was one of my favorite movies, but the music
Speaker 1: was not good, And yeah, the music wasn't great. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but like if the yeah, if they were to nominate
Speaker 1: a song, it should have been we don't talk about Bruno,
Speaker 1: which is now like a TikTok sensation. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: I agree, there's there's a lot of you know, retractive
Speaker 1: work to be done. YEA. The music one is a
Speaker 1: tough one for me because I it's very weird, all right.
Speaker 1: So you know, if we go back in the five years,
Speaker 1: most categories should have I think most categories should have
Speaker 1: more nominees. It shouldn't be kept five because you know,
Speaker 1: obviously you're gonna get snubs, that's how it is and everything.
Speaker 1: But some of the snubs are just outlandish, like which
Speaker 1: is which is wild? So I think you should just
Speaker 1: have like seven to ten like they did for the
Speaker 1: Best Picture and when The Dark Knight didn't you know,
Speaker 1: get nominated, uh, and that's why they changed that category up.
Speaker 1: But for the actual songs, we should one hundred percent
Speaker 1: go back and take away like the Oscar nomination for
Speaker 1: some songs because like some of them, songs don't hit. Man,
Speaker 1: some of these songs don't hit no more. The songs
Speaker 1: don't hit, they don't, they don't matter. But some songs
Speaker 1: do hit, like the Bruno, Like that sho is gonna hit.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be popular in two years. You mean to
Speaker 1: tell me that's not an Oscar worthy? What else? We
Speaker 1: We ain't going to the movies to listen to songs.
Speaker 1: So if a song hits and it stays popular, that's
Speaker 1: why I score. That's there. You go and then my
Speaker 1: this is a controversial opinion that I don't even know
Speaker 1: if I believe him. But so if they want to
Speaker 1: like really get these like movies that everybody saw involved,
Speaker 1: what about a separate category. That's not best picture, it's
Speaker 1: just best movie. Like kind of having a separate sort
Speaker 1: of category. That's just like, all right, this isn't necessarily art,
Speaker 1: but it's like the most fun people had at the movies.
Speaker 1: So just looking at you had Finding Dory, Zootopia, The
Speaker 1: Force Awakens, Mowanna, Arrival, Captain America's Civil War, Deadpool, like,
Speaker 1: those are all pretty iconic movies, so I don't knocks
Speaker 1: that Arrival wasn't nominated. That's crazy. I love that the
Speaker 1: rest of them are children's movies that are you really
Speaker 1: are you have kids? We we get wet. I mean,
Speaker 1: I love that. The only thing is it would only
Speaker 1: be Marvel movies, and especially now they're making you know,
Speaker 1: they're making so many a year. Two would be like
Speaker 1: so many Marvel I mean, but I mean the Spider
Speaker 1: Man movie was my favorite movie of the year period,
Speaker 1: more than any of these nons. I tweeted this today actually,
Speaker 1: and I I generally don't like to have debates with
Speaker 1: Internet strangers about my opinions or theirs because I don't
Speaker 1: give a fuck. But but but I wrote that if
Speaker 1: Don't Look Up was nominated, the Spider Man No Way
Speaker 1: Home should have been nominated become that movie not only
Speaker 1: did it, and I liked Don't Look Up. I'm not
Speaker 1: shopping on the movie, but that's all. Spider Man No
Speaker 1: Way Home was a better movie almost in every way.
Speaker 1: The story was better, the actually was better. I had
Speaker 1: more fun in the movie was better. Like every way
Speaker 1: that movie was better. It was good. And let me
Speaker 1: tell you, don't look up that like tapid like net
Speaker 1: Flix algorithm generated like like that. The function of that
Speaker 1: movie was nothing but like performance on Netflix's streaming service,
Speaker 1: I was. It was so transparently like I don't know,
Speaker 1: I it took me. I'll just say this, it took
Speaker 1: me three sittings to finish that movie because I kept
Speaker 1: getting up and being like, I don't really know what
Speaker 1: I'm watching. I don't know what the appeal of this
Speaker 1: is outside of the fact that it's had so many stars.
Speaker 1: I thought Cape Blanchatt was awesome. I thought, actually, Jonah Hill,
Speaker 1: Jonah Hill was really fun. But the movie in general.
Speaker 1: I was just like, I totally agree with you. I
Speaker 1: was like, I don't understand why this is nominated. I mean,
Speaker 1: actually I do. It's because you know, the devil works hard,
Speaker 1: but Netflix is publicists work harder and and and they
Speaker 1: will get Emily and Paris all of the awards they
Speaker 1: can do that. To let me tell you, well, it
Speaker 1: sounds to me like you are both climate deniers. Climate
Speaker 1: change denier absolutely unless you thought it was the best
Speaker 1: movie of the year, just don't understand the message and
Speaker 1: you hate the environment. And man, I don't see no
Speaker 1: comments coming near the uh over about Can I say
Speaker 1: one more controversial thing about five years ago Oscars? First
Speaker 1: of all, let me preface it because again people on
Speaker 1: the internet are dumb and they don't recontext. Moonlight should
Speaker 1: have won, should have won, But it was only after
Speaker 1: that debacco where people started acting like La La Land
Speaker 1: wasn't a good movie. I had a good time watching
Speaker 1: La La Land, Like it was. Okay, I'm not saying
Speaker 1: it was like it was not the best picture first nominated,
Speaker 1: but I think after that was over high mind of
Speaker 1: social media kind of like dictated. Oh and now we
Speaker 1: also hate La La Land, like y'all. Motherfucker's was up
Speaker 1: here tap dancing in the streets and singing all the
Speaker 1: songs and ship before the Oscars came out with that movie,
Speaker 1: y'all liked it. It was Okay, I think I think
Speaker 1: they hate that La La Land got for that funk
Speaker 1: up after the fact. It's a little it's a little whack.
Speaker 1: It's a little whack in my opinion. It's honestly, it's
Speaker 1: just wrong time, wrong place for that. It was just
Speaker 1: it's a stunning movie, a stunning movie about a guy
Speaker 1: who you know, likes to man explain jazz to an
Speaker 1: aspiring actress, exactly as most movies are about that. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I felt like you know, it was it was.
Speaker 1: It was gorgeous. Um but yeah, a wrong time, wrong
Speaker 1: place and enter the culture wars of that year. Al Right,
Speaker 1: since you guys called me up for being kid movie focused,
Speaker 1: I won't go into my fifteen minute a bit about
Speaker 1: how cars to should have retroactively been getting. Let's let's
Speaker 1: take a quick break and we'll come back and talk
Speaker 1: about Build the Bears. And we're back, and we do
Speaker 1: have to get to some serious news, which jackis just
Speaker 1: saw one piece of evidence from the very serious news
Speaker 1: we're about to talk about. That is, of course, all
Speaker 1: the headlines about the new horny Build a Bear. I'll
Speaker 1: just give you some samples seen it. Build a Bear
Speaker 1: just launched an after dark series of horny teddy bears.
Speaker 1: Fatherly dot com, where I always go from my I
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know what takes yala exclamation point.
Speaker 1: Build a Bear launches a horny teddy bear line. Build
Speaker 1: a Bear launched a range of horny teddy bears, and
Speaker 1: we're confused, says Indie one. Uh. And then the New
Speaker 1: York posts raunchy new furry and quotes toys released just
Speaker 1: in time for Valentine's Day, So um, the ones I
Speaker 1: just looked at. The one thing that is actually horny
Speaker 1: about the entire thing is they did put out a
Speaker 1: fun image that is I think it was like a
Speaker 1: promotional image. It's a stuffed line in in a like
Speaker 1: silk robe, leaning on one world Yeah, very Tom Sellic,
Speaker 1: very Burt Reynolds, on a bear skin rug and just
Speaker 1: kind of definitely giving you the impression that this stuffed
Speaker 1: line wants to fuck you. Oh my god, I just
Speaker 1: rose over this rose over roses. Bear is killing me
Speaker 1: because she's just holding rose? Is that what the horny is? Yeah? Alcohol,
Speaker 1: and important detail is like they really they thought that
Speaker 1: these bears were so controversial that you have to go
Speaker 1: through like a parental like wall, like an eighteen plus
Speaker 1: like like sitewall that says you're about to enter the
Speaker 1: bear cave. There's adult content in here when you click through,
Speaker 1: and it's like a bear that's wearing a T shirt
Speaker 1: that says like wine mom or something like that, and
Speaker 1: it's like, what, like, I'm sorry. If these bears were
Speaker 1: actually horny, we would have heard about it on Tucker
Speaker 1: car Earls and the next thing. Okay, they did not
Speaker 1: go hard enough. If I'm going to buy a horny bear,
Speaker 1: I want, I want strap ons, I want I wonder
Speaker 1: with the flesh light, Yeah, I want Yeah, I want this,
Speaker 1: kiss pools, I want nipple clamps. Okay, ball stretchers, I want,
Speaker 1: I want niche sex toys on all of these bears. Okay,
Speaker 1: if the bear is horny, if like, let's just go
Speaker 1: ahead and say what we're saying. We gotta funck this
Speaker 1: bear and I can't fuck this bear. I can't fuck
Speaker 1: this bear saying this this is this is wild. I
Speaker 1: love this. I love this by the way, Like I said,
Speaker 1: this is the first time I saw the headline. I
Speaker 1: did not see the pictures. These pictures are very funny.
Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna be something risk a like
Speaker 1: nipple titties out or you know, showing whole or something.
Speaker 1: I didn't know what I didn't know. I guess that
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense because they still got the sadies to kiss.
Speaker 1: But what world it? I feel like in the nineties,
Speaker 1: if a brand would have did this, it would have
Speaker 1: been more horny. But we as a collective society are
Speaker 1: hornier than ever. Like I see so much sex on
Speaker 1: Twitter and read it and only fans that like we
Speaker 1: horny and ship it's more comfortable. And this is what
Speaker 1: you come out with. You could have did better than this.
Speaker 1: I should at least say some bear cleavage that the
Speaker 1: actual products are a teddy bear with sunglasses on and
Speaker 1: a dad T shirt that says I want to take
Speaker 1: you out, which is also not oh like like he's
Speaker 1: gonna like he's gonna kill me, Like there's a there's
Speaker 1: a whole exchangeable fiction about how ambiguous that phrase that
Speaker 1: you out daddy like they maybe they are like leaning
Speaker 1: into the threatening aspect of that phrase, and that's why
Speaker 1: it's being included included here. But then the other one
Speaker 1: is it's one o'clock somewhere and it's just a stuffed
Speaker 1: teddy bear? Is that a teddy bear? Is that an't even?
Speaker 1: This is just a testament of the fact that there
Speaker 1: is an untapped market for horny bears. Okay, And we
Speaker 1: want like teddy bears and full leather gear in like
Speaker 1: sex slings. Okay, um, And I feel like there's someone
Speaker 1: out there to do it. And if you want to
Speaker 1: hire me to consult, I will. I will gladly be
Speaker 1: a part of that project. So let me know friend
Speaker 1: as friend as volunteered themselves to bring us to the
Speaker 1: new frontier of horny animals. Baby, you know what, I'm
Speaker 1: here for it. I am here for it. Also, if
Speaker 1: I gave this too, if I gave this to a date,
Speaker 1: like if I gave one of these horny bears to
Speaker 1: a girl for Valentine's Day, we're like, hey, baby, right,
Speaker 1: I love you. You looking good. Here's what I think
Speaker 1: of you. You I They're gonna be dry the rest
Speaker 1: of the night. I'm not a kid. You ain't getting
Speaker 1: no ass at the even build up there. I'm thirty
Speaker 1: five years old, motherfucker. What you're giving me is the
Speaker 1: idea to maybe like make it a date night thing
Speaker 1: that people can go and do. But yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: these are available for online orders, so I guess not.
Speaker 1: I think it's for what's the what's the religion or
Speaker 1: the people that get a year to uh like go
Speaker 1: explore the world before they come a gap year, yes man,
Speaker 1: a gap year, yes man. No, it's like a religion
Speaker 1: or something. Oh yeah, wanted. Yeah, I think this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is to seize them in slowly, slowly. When they
Speaker 1: go sideways, they have a year of absolutely abhorrent, godless
Speaker 1: heathen behavior, and then they go back tom This is
Speaker 1: for them. This is to ease them into, you know,
Speaker 1: the rest of the year that they're gonna have god
Speaker 1: It Also, Bill a Bear had the same promotion last year,
Speaker 1: and it prompted similarly confused responses from people. So it's
Speaker 1: just it's just you know, clickbit it's mainstream media click
Speaker 1: bait essentially. Also, the A Team plus warning maybe just
Speaker 1: on all parts of their site because they don't want
Speaker 1: kids grabbing their parents credit cards and ordering like a
Speaker 1: dump truck full of custom made teddy Bears, So that
Speaker 1: also might just be a misunderstanding by the mainstream media too.
Speaker 1: You know, try and write some comedy, try and spice
Speaker 1: things up a little bit. Let's talk really briefly about Mouse,
Speaker 1: which is now a best seller thanks to a Tennessee
Speaker 1: School Counties band. So the pretext for banning the book
Speaker 1: was that it had nudity, technically illustrated animal nudity, and
Speaker 1: bad language, which included the words bitch and goddamn. It
Speaker 1: was the anchor text for an eighth grade mode Joel
Speaker 1: on the Holocaust and the like. You can actually look
Speaker 1: at the minutes of the school board meeting devoted to
Speaker 1: this topic and it's like worst thing you would expect.
Speaker 1: First of all, they get mad that the author had
Speaker 1: once done artwork for Playboy, so they're like, that goes
Speaker 1: on your permanent record. One board member called the book
Speaker 1: offensive and then admitted they had never read or even
Speaker 1: seen the book, but had read the reviews. They tried
Speaker 1: to see if they could just redact words from it,
Speaker 1: and then when they found that that was a free
Speaker 1: speech issue, they said, well, anyways, that wouldn't do. It's
Speaker 1: more offensive than that. I have not seen the book
Speaker 1: and read the book, I read the reviews, and then
Speaker 1: that was the only item on the school board meetings
Speaker 1: agenda was what to do about Mouse. So the book
Speaker 1: skyrocket at the top of Amazon charts, dominating online book sales.
Speaker 1: Top three literary graphic novels were three different versions of
Speaker 1: moles so that our writer Jam McNabb was pointing out
Speaker 1: that like, you know that this isn't new and I
Speaker 1: have like John Grisham, I guess A Time to Kill
Speaker 1: was once put on a banned book list, and like
Speaker 1: that skyrocketed the sales of that as well. But the
Speaker 1: problem is that it usually hinges on like how profile
Speaker 1: an author is at the time of the challenge. So
Speaker 1: there's just you know, warehouses of banned books that are
Speaker 1: written by people who don't have names that are people
Speaker 1: are familiar with when a book When a book is banned,
Speaker 1: are they saying is banned from schools? Is that what
Speaker 1: they're saying? Or and schools? And then maybe it's like
Speaker 1: restricted at libraries perhaps or school library library. Interesting, I
Speaker 1: mean band books. They need to learn that they're just
Speaker 1: putting these books in business. Let me tell you, like
Speaker 1: like that that one children's book that's like, you know,
Speaker 1: Kimberly has Two Mommies or whatever, as like one of
Speaker 1: the most sold children's books of all time because of
Speaker 1: like you know, culture wars, and like they're only putting
Speaker 1: these books in the map and Mouse is like, isn't
Speaker 1: it a Pulitzer Prize winning books? Like it's it's it's
Speaker 1: like I read. I remember reading both of those books
Speaker 1: and college and adoring them. But also I never learned
Speaker 1: as much about the Holocaust from my history as I
Speaker 1: did from those books specifically. And I think that it's
Speaker 1: just a testament of the fact that people don't know
Speaker 1: what the fun they're talking about. And also honestly like
Speaker 1: that they just are so hypocritical because the Bible, that
Speaker 1: book is whack okay, Like there's like just it just
Speaker 1: like endorses slavery and like people having sex with their dads,
Speaker 1: and like I just like I don't know, like like
Speaker 1: that's a crazy book. And there's there's a story in
Speaker 1: the Bible where like God deals all these people to
Speaker 1: like because of a few people fucked up in the town,
Speaker 1: God deals everybody, you gotta move out of your town.
Speaker 1: Like people who lived in the down their whole life.
Speaker 1: This was their home and they just gotta up and go.
Speaker 1: And God was like, and don't turn around and look back.
Speaker 1: I'm telling people like to not look back at the
Speaker 1: place they've known forever. And the one person who did,
Speaker 1: he turned her to a pillar or fucking salt. I remember.
Speaker 1: That is the most petty, violent, overreactive ship that I've
Speaker 1: ever read at my godtail, you know, don't look at
Speaker 1: your home you lived in for your entire life, or
Speaker 1: I'm going to turn you into be destroyed by God
Speaker 1: like wo right, just out of curiosity like you. It's
Speaker 1: funny too, because like I don't. I've never like I
Speaker 1: will happily admit that I am not an avid book reader,
Speaker 1: but so like keeping up with like the band book list,
Speaker 1: it's never something that really clicks on my radar. But
Speaker 1: it doesn't make sense to me because, for instance, which
Speaker 1: is the reason why it's like, are they banned in
Speaker 1: schools because like some books, like you ain't reading fifty
Speaker 1: shades of grade in eighth grade. So like I I
Speaker 1: get like not being able to read some books in school,
Speaker 1: depending on what the content is, but the fact that
Speaker 1: they're like restricted in certain areas of the library or
Speaker 1: bookstores and things like that. You mean to tell me that,
Speaker 1: like some of these like romance novels, these graphic novels,
Speaker 1: these violent things, I can just easily go up and
Speaker 1: down the library and get. But you're gonna ban a
Speaker 1: book about the Holocaust? Like that doesn't it doesn't make
Speaker 1: It doesn't compute in my brain because it's not about
Speaker 1: banning things because they are graphic. It's about banning things
Speaker 1: because you don't want people to know ship probably you know,
Speaker 1: for the most part, it's what it seems like. And
Speaker 1: like I haven't read this book, so I don't know
Speaker 1: the content of it like you all do. But I
Speaker 1: don't get banned book you we don't. Band movies were
Speaker 1: slap of rating on them, but that's about it. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, there's an amazing documentary about the rating system
Speaker 1: that and how the rating system was also invented by
Speaker 1: the same people that band bucks. It's like it's like
Speaker 1: conservative Christian moms that like decide, you know, whether a
Speaker 1: movie is you know, PG or PG thirteen. I think
Speaker 1: it's called this film is not yet right. That's yeah,
Speaker 1: it's strongly recommend one of the one of us, Yeah,
Speaker 1: one of the best documentaries. Yeah, but yeah, the and
Speaker 1: the specificity of the things they object to are it's
Speaker 1: like they object to showing women have feel pleasure, experienced pleasure.
Speaker 1: So like you can get away with a sex scene
Speaker 1: in which the woman is uncomfortable or it's is being assaulted,
Speaker 1: but you can't show the woman have an orgasm because
Speaker 1: that it makes the movie, right. I thought about that,
Speaker 1: I forget and yeah, yeah, because it's a bunch of
Speaker 1: old it's it's funny. I do I do know this.
Speaker 1: I didn't I've ever seen this documentary. But like the
Speaker 1: word funk, for instance, the difference between PG. Thirteen and
Speaker 1: radar ar. Your allow three Fox, but as long as
Speaker 1: they're not sexual, Like, what's the fucking difference exactly, Like,
Speaker 1: what's the difference between three Fox and four Fox? And
Speaker 1: what's the difference between if the funk is not sexual
Speaker 1: or not? It's still fun It's still like it doesn't
Speaker 1: it doesn't make any sense to me. It's so funny.
Speaker 1: It's for cocoa. The fourth the fourth Fux is what
Speaker 1: pushed you over the edge. It makes you stop believing
Speaker 1: in God. And the President of the United States, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean they're also talking about banning Judy Bloom books
Speaker 1: in Texas, and that was my first indication that Judy
Speaker 1: Bloom books were cool like that, and now I'm going
Speaker 1: to want my kids to read them. At the very least,
Speaker 1: I probably won't read them. I feel like that would
Speaker 1: I'd feel weird about that. But yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's like I remember, there is something powerful both about
Speaker 1: like the fact that books like you can get away
Speaker 1: with more than like three fox in a in a
Speaker 1: book without being banned, and like they don't have this
Speaker 1: rating system, and also like I don't know, they're like
Speaker 1: the feeling of getting to choose whatever you want to read,
Speaker 1: and like finding out that there is like authority that
Speaker 1: doesn't want you to read it is like one of
Speaker 1: the most powerful like I guess you could say like
Speaker 1: marketing tools. Like it's not marketing, like marketers don't use it.
Speaker 1: It's just like that that makes you want to read
Speaker 1: the hell out of some books. Literally, it's an amazing incentive.
Speaker 1: It's literally why I'm corrupted now. I'm I'm a godless
Speaker 1: even because you know, I tore through my local library
Speaker 1: after you know, reading all the band books I could
Speaker 1: get my hands on. I think that I'm almost glad
Speaker 1: that they're banning books because all it does it makes
Speaker 1: kids is making want with them more so. Oh so
Speaker 1: this one's cool too. Okay, well, Fran, uh, this has
Speaker 1: been such a pleasure having you on daily Zeitgeist. Where
Speaker 1: can people find you? Follow you here? You all that
Speaker 1: good stuff. The pleasure is all mine. You can find
Speaker 1: me on social media at France squish code, or you
Speaker 1: can just search my name Fran Toronto and I said
Speaker 1: pop up, um. But more importantly, listen to my new
Speaker 1: podcast Like a Virgin with Rose Damn you and I
Speaker 1: heart radio sister, and you can listen to anywhere you
Speaker 1: stream podcasts, even Joe Rogan Spotify, Yeah that Rogan. Is
Speaker 1: there a tweet or some of the work of social
Speaker 1: media you've been enjoying. My favorite tweet, uh as of late,
Speaker 1: was yeah, I'm into n f t s non non
Speaker 1: binary fem Talks, which is uh a little bit of
Speaker 1: a queer insider joke there, but all night exes really
Speaker 1: are n f t s if I thought about it,
Speaker 1: so um, I guess yeah, that's maybe my my tweet
Speaker 1: of the day. Always so wonderful having you as co hosted.
Speaker 1: Do you know it. Where can people find you and
Speaker 1: follow you on? What's a tweet you've been enjoying? Ah,
Speaker 1: you know you can always find me in the streets
Speaker 1: as per usual. Follow your boy. I'm I'm getting closer
Speaker 1: to that tin k that I've the elusive h K
Speaker 1: that I want. Uh, So you know, go ahead and
Speaker 1: follow your boy and and and do it for Black
Speaker 1: History Month, y'all. If you don't do it this month,
Speaker 1: just gone ahead and admit that you racist. Uh, just
Speaker 1: admit it. Stop playing stuff playing Uh at Jackie's kneel
Speaker 1: on everything, y'all know what it is. So you know,
Speaker 1: I am one of the adults who watches euphor Euphoria
Speaker 1: and yeah, we exist. I was thinking about this earlier, like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: adults in our age range watch like movies centered around
Speaker 1: teams because we get it. Like, I mean, Euphoria's fucking wild.
Speaker 1: But we we used to be teenagers and like we've
Speaker 1: gone past that phase. We we can understand that more
Speaker 1: than I can understand watching a movie about fifty year
Speaker 1: old white men. So I get, like I get being
Speaker 1: a teenager, Like it's not that unfathomable. Uh, this is
Speaker 1: more like it is. It isn't one tweet and like
Speaker 1: they're mostly visual, but it's just been a bunch of tweets.
Speaker 1: I thought based off the last episode of YO. This
Speaker 1: was rue in the last episode and the picture is
Speaker 1: like a torn up fucking town, buildings on fire, or
Speaker 1: like there's a bit the Grim Reaper mean where he
Speaker 1: goes from door to door and there's a blood trail
Speaker 1: out of east door. And the one tweet from Coralina
Speaker 1: Dean was like Room making her rounds around Euphoria Town
Speaker 1: on a mission to ruin everyone's weekend. You've seen this
Speaker 1: last episode, you know the section that we're talking about,
Speaker 1: as she was fucking that town up, and it was
Speaker 1: a joy and so uncomfortable to watch, and I loved it,
Speaker 1: like I loved it. So that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: That's the tweets. Jack, thank you for having me. I
Speaker 1: appreciate you. Appreciate you. You can find me on Twitter
Speaker 1: at Jack Underscore O'Brien. Couple tweets I've been enjoying. Miles
Speaker 1: at the Superior Pink tweeted this can't be the future,
Speaker 1: dipping docks was the ice cream of and Sarah at
Speaker 1: Sarah A. J. Cleary tweeted, I think this is a
Speaker 1: true story. John Waters just came into my cinema exclamation
Speaker 1: point to see Jackass exclamation point a film we aren't showing.
Speaker 1: And then Dan the Rocky Young tweeted big news. My
Speaker 1: bodega guy promoted me from boss to my brother, which
Speaker 1: is just a big moment in any New Yorker's life
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Speaker 1: where we post our episodes on Our foot notes were
Speaker 1: like off to the information that we talked about in
Speaker 1: today's episode, as well as a song that we think
Speaker 1: you might enjoy. And super producer justin Uh, do you
Speaker 1: have a song that you would like to send people
Speaker 1: to go check out? Well, yes I do, Jack. Since
Speaker 1: we have three people on this podcast with Chicago roots
Speaker 1: fran jackieson I, I figured I would shout out at
Speaker 1: Chicago artist Mick Jenkins referencing a Chicago bulls legend Scottie Pippen.
Speaker 1: Check out this track. It hads featuring and artists I
Speaker 1: put on last week's Serpent with feet. You know the
Speaker 1: whole song is metaphor about how you need a partner
Speaker 1: in life and you know you can't just shoot all
Speaker 1: the baskets by yourself. You gotta have support. Uh. And
Speaker 1: so this song has an incredible h instrumentalisten to it.
Speaker 1: This got these really floaty keys that are grounded by
Speaker 1: this countermelody that's played on this guitar that really really
Speaker 1: makes you relax and chill and ease into your night.
Speaker 1: So put this track on Scottie Pippen by Mick Jenkins
Speaker 1: and Serpent with Feet and you can find that in
Speaker 1: the footes Scotty Trip. If you're listening, You've been, You've
Speaker 1: a triplet? Say that that is actually a lyric in
Speaker 1: the song I've Been. Yeah, it's like I've been tripping.
Speaker 1: I was pipping, I was bullshitting. You gotta you guys,
Speaker 1: gotta check the ship. Yeah. By the way, I also
Speaker 1: have Chicago roots. When I lived in Kentucky, the eighth
Speaker 1: grade class trip was Chicago, where we got to go
Speaker 1: to the rock and roll McDonald's and medieval times. For
Speaker 1: some reason, that's only two things to do in Chicago.
Speaker 1: Now we have to bean, Now, we have to be
Speaker 1: we we have to be chain restaurant they took us
Speaker 1: to Anyway where many where many high school students with
Speaker 1: after prom sometimes yea all right. Well. The Daily Say
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