Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to twenty one,
Speaker 1: episode one of Joys Like Guys, a production of I
Speaker 1: Heart Radio. Now. This is a podcast where we take
Speaker 1: a deep dive into America's share consciousness. And it is Monday,
Speaker 1: January two, which of course means that it's National Peanut
Speaker 1: Butter Day. I had to do it to him. Ummi, yummy, yummy, yumma.
Speaker 1: Not enough for some people. Some people put butter and
Speaker 1: peanut butter on their toes. But I've been told it's
Speaker 1: it's decade. I'm telling you, do you want to feel
Speaker 1: like peanut Like peanut butter toast is like a luxury,
Speaker 1: and put put butter on the bread first, then put
Speaker 1: your peanut butter on your thing. Well, that is a
Speaker 1: great idea, and I am of course saying that, Miles,
Speaker 1: because it is National compliment Day as well. Thank you
Speaker 1: so much. I don't actually mean it, but I'm just
Speaker 1: giving you a compliment. I think that I love your
Speaker 1: tide I sweatshirt. Ha fuck you man. All right, Well,
Speaker 1: my name is Jack O'Brien, a k Mama's. Don't let
Speaker 1: your babies grow out there mustache, don't let them be
Speaker 1: pick up artists. That's ah, make them not look like
Speaker 1: creepy old fucked Okay, come a vaccine. Oh it's just
Speaker 1: not the same. It is ruined. Mike comes not worth anything.
Speaker 1: Okay tonight, We fear Ron. You will set your town
Speaker 1: on fightre He's a mean fighter, so it's his son.
Speaker 1: Those are three classic a ks and what we'll get
Speaker 1: to why I'm doing classic a k s. They're all
Speaker 1: from Christi Fucci. Man. My favorite, I think is the
Speaker 1: We Fear Ron, you know, coming with it after the
Speaker 1: long conversation about how Ronson must be the name of
Speaker 1: somebody who was Ron's son. Yeah, shout out to old
Speaker 1: tiny people naming their kids are wrong. And I'm thrilled
Speaker 1: to be joined as always by my co host, Mr
Speaker 1: Miles Miles Gray. A K, Bro, you do good. Once
Speaker 1: you vax that ass up, you'll be a fine motherfucker.
Speaker 1: Whien you vax that ass up? Call me to the
Speaker 1: party where you backs that ass up? Bro? Who is
Speaker 1: you playing with facts that ass up? Hey? K A,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm back to hunt. I am for real.
Speaker 1: Never I knew my balls were super sized. Now you
Speaker 1: left me another guy? A K A who get Taco
Speaker 1: Bell Tonight who getting Taco Bell tonight eight as much
Speaker 1: as well tonight giving my toilet hell tonight. Those are
Speaker 1: three from at Apple House, because you know when you
Speaker 1: try and search at Crispy Meme Donut, that's like that
Speaker 1: ship is suspended. The funk you're talking about. You can't
Speaker 1: text anymore at Wopple House is the handle miles. As
Speaker 1: those A K s might suggest, We're thrilled to be
Speaker 1: joined in our third seat by the author of all
Speaker 1: of them. That was sort of a medley of some
Speaker 1: of our favorite he contributed just the last year or so.
Speaker 1: He's been doing it for years. A True word Smith
Speaker 1: a great follow on Twitter. You can hear him hosting
Speaker 1: his podcast, Jorge's Center. Uh it is America's Stepdad Christy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm a Gucci mane. Look at you. I'm about to
Speaker 1: be uh be very annoying. Here here we go. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: blame it all on my tweet heats that I'm in
Speaker 1: the seat ruining your zack gas fair no way, no
Speaker 1: beyond the show. Sitting in the third Guessie chair. She
Speaker 1: seemed as surprise and look in my eyes when Anna
Speaker 1: d m Hey, I'm a Gucci man, she said, Hey,
Speaker 1: how would you maybe like to come through and talk
Speaker 1: about news of the day Now, I called in sick
Speaker 1: to my work place. I like to my boss said, um,
Speaker 1: contagious need off today. But I'll be o cage Now.
Speaker 1: I'm not known in most places, but on t D
Speaker 1: easy I'm real famous. Called Jose, I got friends and
Speaker 1: Jack and Miles Gragy, whoa look at you had it down.
Speaker 1: There we go, there we go, Thank you. I should
Speaker 1: have include of the voice of an angel Is, but
Speaker 1: I had to let him find out for themselves. Absolute
Speaker 1: legions we have on the show. Legions, christ you have
Speaker 1: been honestly, you say, one of one of the you know,
Speaker 1: many but a few, the fortunate few Day one listeners
Speaker 1: who would always write an A K S. When we
Speaker 1: started doing that dumb nonsense and it evolved. I mean
Speaker 1: like then we saw you for the first time in
Speaker 1: person at the DC Live show. And what was that
Speaker 1: February or the end of January twenty basically, yeah, it
Speaker 1: was right right before everything shut down, literally like a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, I think. And then I remember when
Speaker 1: I met you, I said, what's your real name? Bro?
Speaker 1: The first thing I have so many like I feel
Speaker 1: like a member of Woutang or a superhero because I
Speaker 1: have so many as myself or Satan exactly. Yes, oh,
Speaker 1: I have so many names. Yeah, man. I I heard
Speaker 1: an advertisement on the Dan Lebotard Show for the Daily
Speaker 1: Zeitgeist right before it dropped, and I had listened to
Speaker 1: the Cracked podcast with Jack as the host, and uh, Jack,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for lifting the restraining order that
Speaker 1: I got from my days on the Cracked forums. I
Speaker 1: really appreciate that and allowing me to be here. You know,
Speaker 1: you've you've shown a lot of growth. And also your
Speaker 1: lawyers they're just relentless, they really are. Ye or you're
Speaker 1: really good at pretending to be a lawyer on email? Yes,
Speaker 1: really capture the voice, right? So what should we call you? Christie? What?
Speaker 1: What would you like this? What would you like either
Speaker 1: Christie or will or Willie or a lot of people
Speaker 1: still call me Crispy from when I my original account
Speaker 1: that got suspended for saying the word redneck on Twitter,
Speaker 1: which sounds like I'm taking but I'm absolutely not. Don't don't,
Speaker 1: don't don't say the word redneck in the in a
Speaker 1: reply to a tweet about Nascar. I found out the
Speaker 1: hard way I funked around and found out NASCAR fans, damn,
Speaker 1: because you know, it's like, yeah, it's it's sometimes the
Speaker 1: terms in race. But then if they suspect you'd be
Speaker 1: some lip cock, then they're gonna be like, report this
Speaker 1: hate crime immediately. Don't don't drop that with with a
Speaker 1: cab in your Twitter profile, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll come for you exactly. Yeah. I mean, Christie, I'm
Speaker 1: a Gucci man. Is tough to top. It is a
Speaker 1: lot of syllables. Unfortunately, your real name, Willie is also
Speaker 1: a very cool name. So uh and I don't know
Speaker 1: many Willies. I've been looking to add a Willie in
Speaker 1: my life, so I think I might. I might go well,
Speaker 1: then I don't let me be the Willie that you
Speaker 1: add in your life. Chat. I like where this is going.
Speaker 1: I like where this is headed, but I feel like
Speaker 1: it's a dealer's choice. Right We can you know, ye
Speaker 1: any anything, just cycle through them all. Don't call me
Speaker 1: late for dinner, rights whatever you want. All right, Willie,
Speaker 1: We're going to get to know you a little bit
Speaker 1: better in a moment. First, we're gonna tell our listeners
Speaker 1: a couple of the things that we're talking about what.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about a couple of Trump and investigations.
Speaker 1: There's the financial investigation, which is yielding few surprises, continues
Speaker 1: to yield a few surprises. We're gonna talk about January
Speaker 1: six Committee investigation because they they released the docks to
Speaker 1: the January six Committee and Trump could no longer block
Speaker 1: them based on executive privilege, I guess, And they want
Speaker 1: to talk to Avanka h So we're gonna talk about that.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talking about how speaking of the thing that
Speaker 1: got Christi Yamagucci main band on Twitter. We're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about a new law in Florida that is trying to
Speaker 1: outlaw white people from getting their feelings hurt. We're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about Biden curing cancer, all of that plenty more.
Speaker 1: But first before we get to any of that, ship
Speaker 1: Willie Christi Yamagucci man. I think I'm just gonna keep
Speaker 1: calling you Christi Yamagucci mane uh. We do like to ask. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my mom and some of her friends who listen, they
Speaker 1: think that you are somehow Christy Yama Gucci because like
Speaker 1: they have a year for the Japanese last name. And
Speaker 1: then they're like, oh, man, do you have like a
Speaker 1: Yama song on the show? And I'm like, Mom, I
Speaker 1: listen to what I'm saying, and I had to remember
Speaker 1: over the holidays. I had to be like, it's a
Speaker 1: portmanteau of never mind, Yeah, it's Christi Yamaguchi. Well, let's
Speaker 1: not let's not ruin it justin. Can you edit that
Speaker 1: part out, like, let's let's not ruin the the My
Speaker 1: mom will still if she's listening, she'll be it's still
Speaker 1: fly over her head because she's like in the middle
Speaker 1: of like tending to her cacte or something. Yes, uh
Speaker 1: gold gold medalist figure skater, Christie, i'amagucci here. I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna Yeah, that's what you should call me from now on.
Speaker 1: What is something from your search history that is revealing
Speaker 1: about who you are? Sir? Okay? Uh so, ma'am sorry
Speaker 1: for miles of his mom. Yes, yes, thank you very much.
Speaker 1: How to scam n f T investors. There's lots of
Speaker 1: stories about scams, but not a step by step on
Speaker 1: how to do when yourself, which I feel like somebody
Speaker 1: needs to write that so you know, getting on that
Speaker 1: money making scheme. Yeah, come on, write something you think
Speaker 1: you could do. I don't know. I feel like I
Speaker 1: feel like, with enough like Twitter clout, you just hype
Speaker 1: basically JPEG's up and then take everybody's money and then
Speaker 1: make off overnight. And someone made an n f T
Speaker 1: of the pig shitting on its on its ball. They
Speaker 1: absolutely should though, that would be like a weird ship
Speaker 1: poster gold and it really should. It really should. Every
Speaker 1: other day there's a damn story coming across Twitter or
Speaker 1: read it or something about how somebody hyped up a
Speaker 1: bunch of a bunch of JPEG's and then basically all
Speaker 1: these investors are stoked about the words decentralized, and then
Speaker 1: when they get scammed, there like, we need more oversight
Speaker 1: on this ship, and it's like, okay, which one isn't
Speaker 1: exactly because those are in a direct you know, contradiction
Speaker 1: to one another. So um, Anyway, I just thought it
Speaker 1: would be cool if somebody would, you know, write like
Speaker 1: a wicky how on how to uh rip people off?
Speaker 1: You need like someone who I have someone in mind
Speaker 1: who I feel like who could help us make that
Speaker 1: look like who's you know in the tech world and
Speaker 1: inherently understands all this stuff moves. And I'm like please
Speaker 1: just be really cynical for me with a second. How
Speaker 1: tell me like what the process is. And I know
Speaker 1: you're not saying that's what you're into, but let's funk
Speaker 1: around exactly exactly, just just you know, just leave it
Speaker 1: out there on the internet, and whatever happens with it,
Speaker 1: happens with it. You know. Then. Uh the podcast Business
Speaker 1: News Network Platinum, which is I feel like I uh yeah,
Speaker 1: I know that's a mouthful, right. Apparently it's a real podcast.
Speaker 1: I got called up randomly yesterday and asked to be
Speaker 1: on a podcast, but not because I do podcasts or
Speaker 1: I'm on Twitter or anything, but because I'm a wedding efficient. Uh.
Speaker 1: And that's why I kind of chose this one, was
Speaker 1: because I I do weddings on the weekend, work in
Speaker 1: a body shop during the week, but I'm a wedding
Speaker 1: efficient to do about thirty forty weddings a year, and
Speaker 1: uh yeah, a nice little side business. You know. It's
Speaker 1: it's something that I get to dress nice and smell
Speaker 1: good on the weekends and you know, go schmooze with people.
Speaker 1: Uh it's a cool gig. And uh I got called
Speaker 1: by this apparently real podcast wanting to do like an interview, right,
Speaker 1: And I cannot figure out the exact angle on this thing,
Speaker 1: like what what there? Supposedly I talked to the lady
Speaker 1: that called me, and she said that they make ad
Speaker 1: you know, when you share your podcast on your platforms
Speaker 1: and stuff, they get the ad revenue for it. But
Speaker 1: that was like as much as she would admit to me.
Speaker 1: So I agreed to do it, which I'm totally not
Speaker 1: going to I just let them schedule me in everything
Speaker 1: and I'm just not gonna answer the phone when it happens,
Speaker 1: probably because I still feel like this is a scam somehow, Um,
Speaker 1: I'm not. I just can't figure out the uh, the
Speaker 1: angle on it. So if any of the Zeit gang
Speaker 1: out there listening know anything about the and I'll say
Speaker 1: it once again, Podcast Business News Network Platinum, which is
Speaker 1: like the most MLM sounding ship I have ever heard. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if they sound like they'd be able to tell you
Speaker 1: how to do a n f T scan, Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: actually okay, Maybe I do need to go Platinum. The
Speaker 1: detail that like pushes it over the edge for me,
Speaker 1: absolutely absolutely. Do you as a serial wedding efficient do
Speaker 1: you track like metric like how the marriages are going,
Speaker 1: Do you like keep stats on how like checking back
Speaker 1: in how many kids were working with here? Field goal percentages?
Speaker 1: What my slugging slugging my slugger of kids, like how
Speaker 1: productive the marriages are, and like how those kids are doing.
Speaker 1: I you know, I I should start I feel like
Speaker 1: that's something like a pro football focus. I should like
Speaker 1: start mowing like that has has all those like box scores,
Speaker 1: stats on it and stuff. You know, these people, I
Speaker 1: think they are scamming. I'm sorry. They're dropping like six
Speaker 1: episodes a day right right, like understand what their release schedule.
Speaker 1: And it's like interview with the guy who Weight Loss
Speaker 1: made Easy road Map and you're like, yeah, yeah, yesterday
Speaker 1: I listened to a bit of a podcast yesterday and
Speaker 1: they had the host of like and and nothing against
Speaker 1: raiky or or any of that stuff, like I'm out there,
Speaker 1: yeah right exactly. But she was talking about how she
Speaker 1: talks to animals sometimes and she talks to a red
Speaker 1: finch and found out what was ailing it. And she
Speaker 1: figured out what was wrong with this bird when the
Speaker 1: veterinarian couldn't and just go on there and light your
Speaker 1: ass off, you know that create the most surreal reality
Speaker 1: the wildest ship has anyone done that? Just a show
Speaker 1: that is like for gullible people, and it's just a
Speaker 1: series of like scams, like the place that gullible dip
Speaker 1: shits go to be scams Man's opportunity. Yeah, platinum investment opportunity,
Speaker 1: Platinum investments to the platinum in there. Yeah, we've got
Speaker 1: Popeye Jones on to talk about. What is uh something
Speaker 1: you think is overrated? Guys, I've been waiting to do
Speaker 1: this ship for five years, So forgive me. You're gonna
Speaker 1: have to just pick, pick pick whenever, whichever one you
Speaker 1: want to stop. Yes, exactly, food rules, college football, wedding traditions,
Speaker 1: Chick fil A having hair, cult of personalities around politicians
Speaker 1: and political commentators, Boomer musicians selling their entire catalogs, giant
Speaker 1: corporations paying your medical bills, movies that started the theater
Speaker 1: past six thirty because I can't stay awake. I like
Speaker 1: the all right, so I'll throw out the ones that
Speaker 1: jumped out to me. I'm curious to learn more about
Speaker 1: why boomer musicians selling their entire catalogs is overrated. I
Speaker 1: also agree that college football is overrated, so like, I
Speaker 1: kind of want to hear that, Miles, what what what
Speaker 1: jumped out of you? No hair obviously, I mean we've
Speaker 1: all heard heard that from Yeah, but I'd like to
Speaker 1: keep hearing it. I don't want to put that out there,
Speaker 1: you know what I I mean daily affirmation. Yeah, absolutely, we already.
Speaker 1: You're right that that goes without saying. But yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: curious about the boomer and the Yeah. With the hair thing,
Speaker 1: it's just the money you save on haircuts and shampoo
Speaker 1: and and all that stuff, and not having to think
Speaker 1: about what you're doing with your hair. You never used
Speaker 1: to put shampoo on your bald head. Uh, Like, if
Speaker 1: I like ran out of the bar of soap or
Speaker 1: something like that, I'll steal a dab of like overpriced
Speaker 1: shampoo from my wife's, you know, one of the the
Speaker 1: I feel like dozen bottles of shampoo and conditioner that's
Speaker 1: in our shower at any given moment. But but that's
Speaker 1: like you can't even bumble and bumble on your hair,
Speaker 1: skim Like I just needed something to cleanse myself exactly
Speaker 1: exactly for a while, I remember, I will put shampoo on,
Speaker 1: like what am I doing here? Yeah? You know, but
Speaker 1: it's just to remind myself. You know I can still
Speaker 1: keep that scalp clean. Absolutely, Absolutely, the boomer musicians. It's
Speaker 1: just been this trend lately, and of my favorite bands
Speaker 1: of all time, zz Top just recently did it as well,
Speaker 1: where they there these classic rock era bands and musicians
Speaker 1: are selling their entire catalogs to these investment firms essentially
Speaker 1: not even like other you know, media companies, but just
Speaker 1: like they're basically n f T s themselves, and then
Speaker 1: these companies get to divvy them up and license them
Speaker 1: for whatever they want. And there's just like I had
Speaker 1: this idea the other day where like it would it
Speaker 1: would have been super cool if one of these musicians.
Speaker 1: I feel like if if if one of these famous
Speaker 1: ones like Springsteen or Dylan or something, which this is
Speaker 1: high hopes for for one of these these guys to
Speaker 1: do this, but one of these catalogs of music could
Speaker 1: generate revenue for decades and decades and decades, you know,
Speaker 1: as long as they're protected by copyright or whatever. And
Speaker 1: I feel like if you set one of these things
Speaker 1: up in a trust or something to generate money, you could,
Speaker 1: you know, you could, you could do so much goodwill
Speaker 1: with your music, with your legacy all the you know,
Speaker 1: all the hope and you know positive ship that you
Speaker 1: were singing about in the sixties and seventies and stuff.
Speaker 1: You could actually do some goodwill with the money that
Speaker 1: your music makes. But instead they're just cashing out right
Speaker 1: here to they're already worth hundreds of millions of dollars,
Speaker 1: and now they're worth a couple of hundreds of millions
Speaker 1: of dollars more, Like what what the funk is the
Speaker 1: point of that? Anyway that we can get private equity
Speaker 1: like more involved exactly exactly and just the future of
Speaker 1: our culture, so that like anybody who wants to make
Speaker 1: a movie with a Bob Dylan song and it needs
Speaker 1: to go deal with fucking private equity bros. Like that's
Speaker 1: that's good for the culture. Yeah, it's fantastic. It's fantastic
Speaker 1: way to go. Yeah. The problem is that like all
Speaker 1: these celebrities have like what I think I've said this before,
Speaker 1: but when I'm driving around like l A and I'm like,
Speaker 1: what the fund do all these people do for a living?
Speaker 1: Like in the entertainment industry, I realize, you know, it's
Speaker 1: all people who like work in licensing and ship like that.
Speaker 1: Like there's just massive, massive, companies that just like make
Speaker 1: shiploads of money of just like being like, okay, will
Speaker 1: agree to let you use it, but you have to
Speaker 1: like talk to these seven other people to use this song.
Speaker 1: And then intermediary companies that are just their entire existence
Speaker 1: is just for granting someone permission. They don't they're not
Speaker 1: the owner of the music, they're not the person using
Speaker 1: the music. They're just the middle management company that that
Speaker 1: gets permission from someone. Yeah, that bullshit jobs genius, genius,
Speaker 1: But that's like, you know, that's how so many people
Speaker 1: like people moved like I can actually create a whole
Speaker 1: business by just inserting myself in this process and it's unneeded,
Speaker 1: but I'll convince the other person it is. Yeah. And
Speaker 1: then what is something you think is underrated? Faking it
Speaker 1: till you make it? Dating hot single moms, being dumb
Speaker 1: as hell on twitter zz talk, small trucks, a good
Speaker 1: pair of boots, a functioning pancreas, karaoke and losing weight
Speaker 1: to ride a horse. What's the go? You're faking it
Speaker 1: till you make it? I think that is a good Uh?
Speaker 1: I think so too. Um. And it's something as I've
Speaker 1: I've gotten older, I've realized every literally everybody is doing
Speaker 1: Nobody knows what they're doing at any given moment, particularly
Speaker 1: when you come into a new chapter of your life.
Speaker 1: You know, would I think I've I've heard people on
Speaker 1: here talk about this thing before. But like when you're
Speaker 1: little and you look to your parents, are adults in
Speaker 1: your life, you think that they are, you know, possessors
Speaker 1: of knowledge or answers, and and sometimes they are. But
Speaker 1: as as one now, as as a stepdad to three
Speaker 1: boys who have you know, helped raise for a dozen years. Now, man,
Speaker 1: we do not know what we're doing, and we are
Speaker 1: just figuring it out as we go along. And there's
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with that, you know what I mean, There's
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with that. It's it's literally how anybody does
Speaker 1: anything as far as I'm I'm concerned. Now, there's some
Speaker 1: things that you shouldn't fake, you know, like open heart
Speaker 1: surgery or flying a plane and ship like that, very
Speaker 1: important roles and in in our our lives from day
Speaker 1: to day. Don't fake driving a car until you make
Speaker 1: it either. That's a probably a bad one. My mom
Speaker 1: might grind out here just performing heart surgery in the
Speaker 1: back alley in eighteen wheeler A car with air brakes. Nope,
Speaker 1: let's make let's get this paper this morning fellas yeah,
Speaker 1: rise and grind. No, it's true. And also I think
Speaker 1: just in general, right, more than like fake, it's not
Speaker 1: really about being deceptive, because I think that's that there
Speaker 1: can be that sort of tinge of that phrase faking
Speaker 1: until you make it of more just like just be
Speaker 1: confident in what you're doing and continue to do it,
Speaker 1: because I think to that point, it's easy to look
Speaker 1: at certain jobs or like things you might aspire to do.
Speaker 1: Like I remember when I was lobbying and I really
Speaker 1: wanted to do comedy. I was like, I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: Like I just I what is it going to take
Speaker 1: to do it? And I just had to really back
Speaker 1: myself really just to be like I want to do
Speaker 1: this ship. I think I'm funny, Like fuck it, Like,
Speaker 1: let's just do this ship and I'm gonna walk around
Speaker 1: like I know what the funk I'm doing because to
Speaker 1: a certain exting we do. But it's it's about sort
Speaker 1: of also crossing into that next, like I guess, emotional
Speaker 1: phase where you're able to look at yourself and say, no,
Speaker 1: I believe in what I'm doing and Yeah, that's potentially
Speaker 1: I'm just emulating other people who seem successful. But it's
Speaker 1: just confidence, so exactly exactly, Yeah, just just uh, you know,
Speaker 1: don't be a dickhead about it obviously when when you
Speaker 1: have that confidence, but but be humble, but but be
Speaker 1: you know, confident that you're going to figure it out
Speaker 1: eventually you do. Yeah. I feel like there's a lot
Speaker 1: of people who are monsters in the entertainment industry or
Speaker 1: you know, six very successful people who are you know,
Speaker 1: really awful to people underneath them, And I think that's
Speaker 1: like built on their insecurity that like, oh no, like
Speaker 1: everybody's gonna find out that I'm like I'm a fraud,
Speaker 1: and it's like no, not nobody. It all just looks
Speaker 1: better like you're comparing your insights to other people's outside. Basically,
Speaker 1: I don't need to do that because at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, it's just just just back yourself. That's
Speaker 1: and that's really the hardest ship to do because a
Speaker 1: lot of the time I'm like, I don't have all
Speaker 1: this anecdotal data to suggest that I can do what
Speaker 1: I'm doing, and you won't. You won't have that data
Speaker 1: until you do it. So that's like kind of the
Speaker 1: rub there's like you gotta actually start gonna take that
Speaker 1: push to the next place. I remember even starting this podcast.
Speaker 1: I wasn't podcasting before this, and I was just like, funk, man,
Speaker 1: I don't know what am I dude, and I in
Speaker 1: my mind, I'm like, well, Jack knows what he's doing.
Speaker 1: So based off of that, and I had to step
Speaker 1: up acting like I've been podcasting for a minute, and I,
Speaker 1: you know, straight up, I was like, I'm using the
Speaker 1: confidence of just Jack being like, hey, I think this
Speaker 1: could be a good podcast for me to push aside
Speaker 1: any doubt. I had to be like, fuck it, I guess,
Speaker 1: I guess we can do this. Ship and the fact
Speaker 1: that I threw up right before we started recording it
Speaker 1: every day for the first two years, like I was like, no,
Speaker 1: this is just a stomach issue, and I would have
Speaker 1: my sympathetic gag reflects too, and Jack had to have
Speaker 1: his teeth replaced literally, like the on everything, it's it's
Speaker 1: very that's pretty good. Yeah, the same thing with with me,
Speaker 1: like when we started George Center and Hour after Hours
Speaker 1: that I'd never done a podcast either, and eventually you
Speaker 1: just you know, you pretend like you know what you're doing,
Speaker 1: and then people actually start giving you feedback and tell
Speaker 1: you they're listening, and it becomes a blaster or doing weddings.
Speaker 1: You know, a friend of mine asked me to do
Speaker 1: There's in like two thousand and six, and sure as hell,
Speaker 1: had never done a wedding before, and uh, they asked
Speaker 1: me because of my beard. Literally they were like, you
Speaker 1: you look official. That swear to God that that's that's
Speaker 1: why they were like, they were like, we like your
Speaker 1: beer in North Carolina. Yeah, exactly, you got the beer.
Speaker 1: I think like I looked official but also kind of
Speaker 1: like a wizard at the time. So they just they
Speaker 1: just asked me to perform their wedding. And then other
Speaker 1: uh friends that were there saw me do that one
Speaker 1: and then asked me to do theirs and so on
Speaker 1: and so forth, and now I got a little you know,
Speaker 1: side hustle going. So speaking of beer, because you do
Speaker 1: have leg a zz top beard, and I do you
Speaker 1: know what one of my favorite things about your a
Speaker 1: K is is your taste in music. You have just
Speaker 1: like a great elect Yeah, very eclectic, but it's always
Speaker 1: the hits that I've heard of, So I don't have
Speaker 1: to do too much research wise, zz Top underrated. Zz
Speaker 1: Top is underrated just because I feel like most people
Speaker 1: that aren't intimately familiar with their catalog don't realize all
Speaker 1: the songs that they're familiar with that are zz Top.
Speaker 1: They think it's like all these different classic rock bands.
Speaker 1: I've had many conversations with friends of mine who aren't
Speaker 1: into them as much as I am, and uh, I
Speaker 1: start naming songs and they're like, wait, zz Top does
Speaker 1: that one, Wait, they did this one, and and you
Speaker 1: just keep they have so so many hits, and they
Speaker 1: lasted over the decades. They evolve their sound. Uh you know,
Speaker 1: they started playing in the late sixties, early seventies. Then
Speaker 1: when the eighties came, you know with Eliminator and and
Speaker 1: they updated their sound with a scynth and stuff. And
Speaker 1: you know, some of the most classic early MTV videos
Speaker 1: just absurd, absurd videos that are fun to go back
Speaker 1: and watch. Um and Billy Gibbons is just uh like
Speaker 1: one of the greatest guitar players of all time, but
Speaker 1: I feel like he's not ever listed in that same
Speaker 1: tier that a lot of classic rock guitarists star and
Speaker 1: uh yeah, and and that's that's basically why and also
Speaker 1: like they my dad always had a super long beer
Speaker 1: growing up, so I associated them with my dad, like
Speaker 1: I think, you know, in that little kid brain logic,
Speaker 1: like well zz top are my dad's friends. Like they
Speaker 1: all looked you know, you know what I'm saying, like
Speaker 1: a damn bit of sense. But uh, that's that's that's
Speaker 1: that's what I told myself at like four years old. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was like having a look going into the eighties,
Speaker 1: like was you know, I guess lucky, Like I don't know,
Speaker 1: did did they always have the long beard's like very
Speaker 1: early on, very early on, they they were clean shaven,
Speaker 1: but basically early seventies they grew out the beards and
Speaker 1: of course, you know, Frank Beard, the drummer, is the
Speaker 1: only one that doesn't have one, and he has a
Speaker 1: has a classic mustache. But that that's the key to
Speaker 1: kind of their timelessness is that they've always looked like
Speaker 1: they were pushing seventy years old because of the dark sunglasses,
Speaker 1: the super long beards kind of their their dress and
Speaker 1: and aesthetic and so they you know, into the eighties,
Speaker 1: their look didn't change. The only thing that changed was
Speaker 1: like the guitars got like neon colored and they wore
Speaker 1: fur coats and ship and you know kind of kind
Speaker 1: of had like a scent scent wave vibe to him.
Speaker 1: And then and then all throughout all the decades they've
Speaker 1: literally it's been hard to tell how they've aged. And
Speaker 1: of course recently, uh Dusty Hill passed away the bass player,
Speaker 1: so uh r I p to him so that they
Speaker 1: they lost lost Dusty uh say, probably like six or
Speaker 1: seven months ago, and uh so, yeah, that's a that's ah,
Speaker 1: that's that's why I think that they are underrated. Everybody
Speaker 1: should go listen to just listen to the greatest hits,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And uh really, and they've
Speaker 1: got some silly as songs to there. They've they've always
Speaker 1: looked the way that they do. But they're singing about
Speaker 1: like they're singing about some perverted ship, you know, like
Speaker 1: like the song tube steak boogie or pearl necklace. What's
Speaker 1: that about? I don't get it? You know what you mean?
Speaker 1: Is it for off my conversation? So good good having
Speaker 1: the iconic look heading into the eighties with MTV, bad
Speaker 1: for the s e O and like listing of bands
Speaker 1: in your iPod era with the the very last possible
Speaker 1: name in any alphabetized archive. That's a good point. I've
Speaker 1: never never thought about that, actually, never thought about do
Speaker 1: you have Do you have a singular musician that you
Speaker 1: are like, that's my dad's friend, because I have like
Speaker 1: Billy Joel, I so associate with my dad for some reason.
Speaker 1: I'm just like, yeah, he's they're probably friends, They're probably
Speaker 1: hanging out somewhere. I thought my grandfather new Miles Davis, right,
Speaker 1: because I got this plaque when I was born from
Speaker 1: one of my grandfather's really good friends that was like
Speaker 1: this plaque from the album Miles Ahead, and it was
Speaker 1: like this sort of presentational Miles Davis album and it
Speaker 1: said like two you know Miles Young, Miles blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: And then I was as a kid, I was like, man,
Speaker 1: my grandpa got this from Miles Davis, his friend, and yeah,
Speaker 1: So that that was one in the back of my mind.
Speaker 1: I never quite articulate out loud, but whenever I looked,
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, he knows Miles. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: you do come from like really cool people who did
Speaker 1: hang out with great artists, so like, probably about the
Speaker 1: same for you. I had to create a fictional universe
Speaker 1: where my dad hung out with silly Joel. He was
Speaker 1: he listened to piano Man, And you're like, I wonder
Speaker 1: which one my dad is? Is he the real estate novelist? Right?
Speaker 1: I mean my my Iggy Pop almost killed my dad.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've told that story. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: they lived together for a second, Miles. How have you
Speaker 1: never told that before? Because I say too much on
Speaker 1: this show. You know, I got to have some stuff
Speaker 1: for that boy. Yeah, you know when this all goes
Speaker 1: off the rails, when this all blows up and you're
Speaker 1: doing the like v H one behind the podcast series
Speaker 1: that they will eventually do you have to you have
Speaker 1: to bring this all stories about my dad. Yeah, this childhood,
Speaker 1: those childhood stories. Right, we should have seen this coming.
Speaker 1: Iggy Pop almost killed his dad. All right, let's take
Speaker 1: a quick break. We'll be right back, and we're back.
Speaker 1: And last week there was a I guess was the
Speaker 1: Attorney General of New York filed a brief basically saying,
Speaker 1: you know, she's going to keep the investigation into Trump's
Speaker 1: finances going. She said that they're potentially fraudulent or misleading practices,
Speaker 1: which I feel like at the time, the MSM the
Speaker 1: mainstream media was like he's in trouble as usual. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I don't know like that. I would say that,
Speaker 1: like my energy for like digging into Trump's finances stories
Speaker 1: is just like spent. Like I don't I don't think
Speaker 1: we're gonna get him. I just said, I think al
Speaker 1: Capone with it though, I think they're trying to go
Speaker 1: al Capone with it, But like al Capone was a
Speaker 1: different era and Trump is too like woven in with
Speaker 1: the fabric of like all of the finances. Yeah, well
Speaker 1: just like not mainstream called mainstream, like you know, Robert
Speaker 1: baron New York Finance, Like the like the thing the
Speaker 1: stuff that is really objectional in the the report is
Speaker 1: all stuff that is pretty commonplace. Like you know, there's
Speaker 1: one thing that was like pretty blatant. They misstated the
Speaker 1: physical size of one of his properties, like just physically
Speaker 1: if you go in there with measuring to have measure it,
Speaker 1: it's like not it's like half the size. That genuinely
Speaker 1: be stupidity, right, there's there's no there's no way to know.
Speaker 1: They asked him to ballpark it, you know, who'd probably
Speaker 1: give us an honest assessment like how big is your
Speaker 1: home office now, what is it proportioned to the size
Speaker 1: of like the air you live. I'm like, I have
Speaker 1: a nine thousand square foot home office, right, So that's
Speaker 1: basically like stealing two million dollars essentially, But like a
Speaker 1: lot of the stuff is just you know, misrepresenting the
Speaker 1: value of the company. But that, like, as some articles
Speaker 1: are pointing out, that's also like seeing as highly subjective.
Speaker 1: It's hard to sort of nail somebody on that. And
Speaker 1: it also like feels like the like whack as parts
Speaker 1: of the Trump hate where it's like one type of
Speaker 1: rich like neo lib person blanching at like the uncouth
Speaker 1: rich person. Like I don't know, like Grant, I'm not
Speaker 1: like defending him in anyway. I'm just saying that, like
Speaker 1: this isn't going to change the way anyone thinks about him,
Speaker 1: like what we're going to find here, Like everybody assumes
Speaker 1: he's lying and that he thinks the lying is smart
Speaker 1: and assuming he gets away with it, he'll kind of
Speaker 1: be right. But like the fact that all the ship
Speaker 1: that like they're talking about is fairly commonplace means to
Speaker 1: me that like the world of private equity, Like and
Speaker 1: you know, just the wealthy people of the world won't
Speaker 1: let him go down for this because it is what
Speaker 1: they all like, what their wealth is all resting on
Speaker 1: as well. Ye or you know, you do that thing
Speaker 1: where you just shove somebody else out into the spotlight,
Speaker 1: be like you take his ass, right, you know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true. Maybe maybe that keep this going. That's what
Speaker 1: happened with Michael Cohen countless other people in Trump's orbit
Speaker 1: and Jack, You're right as far as the energy for
Speaker 1: for Trump's finances and ship, that peaked with Rachel Maddow
Speaker 1: saying that she had Trump's tax returns for me, you know,
Speaker 1: and then it was just like, oh this you mean
Speaker 1: the stuff that's already been publicly available for years. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was like, He's never He's never gonna get busted
Speaker 1: for this ship. He'll just tie them up in court,
Speaker 1: you know, with whatever money he has left. And uh,
Speaker 1: and just it's it's it's the only thing Trump really
Speaker 1: is good at the art of is escaping from any
Speaker 1: kind of culpability or getting in trouble for this ship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: especially in the world of finance. Yeah, you know, bankruptcy
Speaker 1: and all that ship. Yeah, it's it's it's a it's
Speaker 1: a tough one to see because I know there's like
Speaker 1: there's also the Manhattan d A also has a parallel
Speaker 1: investigation happening, So I mean it seems like for them,
Speaker 1: it's just like, yeah, I mean, we have all the
Speaker 1: evidence we need, Like we also have stuff that says, like,
Speaker 1: you know, potentially that there was like an art maarticulated
Speaker 1: intent to defraud. But yeah, I don't know. It's just
Speaker 1: like one of those things where even though the I
Speaker 1: think Letitia James like people cannot just pick and choose
Speaker 1: which laws they abide by him, It's like, I know
Speaker 1: they do, yeah, literally constantly. But that's why I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: let's I'll believe the one I see it. But yeah,
Speaker 1: now the January six Committee, on the other hand, like
Speaker 1: I'm still I'm still sitting down, you know, Michael Jackson
Speaker 1: eating popcorn gift on that one. I'm like, all right,
Speaker 1: let's see where this one goes. Uh, And Avonka's name
Speaker 1: is starting to come up. Yeah, and now she's not
Speaker 1: been subpoena, but she's been you know, invited to have
Speaker 1: a voluntary interview to discuss some things that'll happen voluntarily
Speaker 1: it's on her dad. Yeah, we can see that happening.
Speaker 1: But you know, when you look at how this like
Speaker 1: letter that came out from the committee is like worded,
Speaker 1: it's all they're saying is like, we know what the
Speaker 1: funk happened. I'll get in here and if you want
Speaker 1: it to your side of story, we can do that.
Speaker 1: But we already have enough testimony from other people as
Speaker 1: it relates to what happened. So one of the first things,
Speaker 1: you know, it sounds like they're like three to four
Speaker 1: big chunks in this letter that they were trying to
Speaker 1: really get at in terms of what information VANCA would
Speaker 1: have first, is that they're saying, quote, as January six approach,
Speaker 1: President Trump attempted on multiple occasions to persuade Vice President
Speaker 1: Pence to participate in his plane. You were in the
Speaker 1: Oval office and observed at least one side of that
Speaker 1: telephone conversation where people were you know, we're potentially he
Speaker 1: was talking to Mike Pence. So sort of like, so,
Speaker 1: what did you hear him say to Mike Pence? Because
Speaker 1: we have staff that have already told us what it's
Speaker 1: not other people that were in the room, Just do
Speaker 1: you want to come in and clarify that second essentially
Speaker 1: boils down to this whole thing of like we also
Speaker 1: heard that on the day you had multiple requests from
Speaker 1: people begging you to talk to your dad because it
Speaker 1: seemed like you're one of the few people who could
Speaker 1: talk him out of this like coup in progress, or
Speaker 1: at least try and give a statement saying like already,
Speaker 1: let's cool it down, folks. We kind of went that
Speaker 1: ship kind of got a little too hot, and she's
Speaker 1: you know, she was there saying, well, what do people
Speaker 1: ask you? Because we know what people asked you, but
Speaker 1: what are you going to say people ask you? And
Speaker 1: then finally talking about how during this coup that several
Speaker 1: people in the White House were you know, rebutting questions
Speaker 1: in terms of like when it came to was the
Speaker 1: president attempting to hold up the deployment deployment of the
Speaker 1: National Guard, was he actively trying to keep any kind
Speaker 1: of protection elements advancing on the Capitol, Like did he
Speaker 1: wanted to be as vulnerable and have that intent? So
Speaker 1: it's everything they're saying, like they have Kayleie Mcinaney, who
Speaker 1: has cooperated and who else Mark Meadows obviously gave up
Speaker 1: a ton of information before he's like, I'm not actually
Speaker 1: now testifying. I will take a subpoena or a contempt
Speaker 1: of Congress charge. Yeah, that man got his book promoted
Speaker 1: and that's that's all he was out for, I know,
Speaker 1: and then immediately had to be like, actually, my books lie,
Speaker 1: so but please buy it. This is why, like very
Speaker 1: early in his administration, everyone was like, like even Lauren
Speaker 1: Gram no not Laura Ingram, who who was Laura Ingram
Speaker 1: before Laura Ingram? The Fox News and Culture was like us, like,
Speaker 1: you can't have your kids in your administration, Like that's
Speaker 1: just not done. That's an absurd thing. Worst person you know,
Speaker 1: makes a good point, right, but if you're going to
Speaker 1: commit crimes that this this all goes back to like
Speaker 1: he was right about like he knew he was going
Speaker 1: to commit crimes. He knows, he knew, Like that's all
Speaker 1: he does on a regular basis. That's why you keep
Speaker 1: people in your family around you, because they also have
Speaker 1: a financial incentive for you not to like be completely fucked.
Speaker 1: So like that, I don't know that it's like that
Speaker 1: strategy paying off that they're like, well, let's see what
Speaker 1: Ivanka has to say. It's like she's not gonna say
Speaker 1: shit like that's why, that's why I only do crimes
Speaker 1: with my step kids around. Yeah, I mean they know,
Speaker 1: they know who buys the groceries and stuff. They were
Speaker 1: Freeway Rick Ross when he was at the height of
Speaker 1: his game. It was like I think all his like
Speaker 1: he was like, you'll come out here from I think
Speaker 1: he was. He had family in Texas that came out.
Speaker 1: People know like, you gotta you gotta be able to
Speaker 1: trust people if you're doing dirt exactly. And yeah, but
Speaker 1: I think things change though, when you got real, when
Speaker 1: you got real charges. And I think that's the thing
Speaker 1: we're all waiting for is because right now it doesn't
Speaker 1: look like anything is gonna inspire anyone to fight the
Speaker 1: orange hand that feeds. Yeah, Christie, by the way, what
Speaker 1: what age, dude, did your sons become like good getaway drivers?
Speaker 1: Because my five year old fucking is not good? Is
Speaker 1: he still is he still doing the little tykes flint
Speaker 1: stone car? Is he still trying to get away? And yeah,
Speaker 1: he can't reach the pedals. He sucks at steering. That's rough.
Speaker 1: Upgrade to the power wheels and then and then you'll
Speaker 1: you have a much better chance. Um, but yeah, I
Speaker 1: would say probably around like thirteen or so. Yeah, get
Speaker 1: them started on some F one simulation simulator or some
Speaker 1: Grand series. Well yeah, yeah, I mean that's not gonna
Speaker 1: what Grand Troops. Almost seven doesn't dropt to like March,
Speaker 1: so you know in the yeah, yeah, all right, let's
Speaker 1: take a quick break. We'll come back and talk about
Speaker 1: Florida and we're back. And you know, Florida always leads
Speaker 1: the way, maybe even more than Donald Trump since January six,
Speaker 1: but so late last year, our boy de Santis proposed
Speaker 1: a bill that would allow parents to sue schools if
Speaker 1: their kids are taught critical race theory. M hm, and
Speaker 1: they suspected it. Yeah, And now that logic is evolving
Speaker 1: into a new bill that it's essentially makes it illegal
Speaker 1: to white people feel bad about like reality like anything.
Speaker 1: That's what it is. The bill which just made it
Speaker 1: out of like an education committee says this quote. An individual,
Speaker 1: by virtue of his or her race or sex, does
Speaker 1: not bear responsibility for actions committed in the past by
Speaker 1: other members of the same race or sex. An individual
Speaker 1: should not be made to feel discomfort, guilt, anguish, or
Speaker 1: any other form of psychological distress on account of his
Speaker 1: or her race. Facts don't care about your feelings, I thought, though,
Speaker 1: nor like like there's nothing consistent. This is just amazing
Speaker 1: that like this is uh, you know, the darling of
Speaker 1: the right in conservative debate culture and and all that
Speaker 1: bullshit Ben Shapiro his whole slogan, his facts don't care
Speaker 1: about your feelings, and yet this is the epitome. This
Speaker 1: is the most like I I don't want to feel
Speaker 1: bad about anything bullshit that I have ever read. It's
Speaker 1: pretty incredible. I mean, I think most observers are right
Speaker 1: to point out that it's like this looks this bill
Speaker 1: looks like it's tailored exclusively for white people, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like this, who is this for? Because
Speaker 1: it's obviously you know, this is this isn't an actual problem,
Speaker 1: you know, or it's more just like the legal equivalent
Speaker 1: of like sticking your fingers in your ears and closing
Speaker 1: your eyes and screaming as a way to like avoid
Speaker 1: you know, having any kind of reckoning or self awareness
Speaker 1: around history. But yeah, I mean this is all just
Speaker 1: sort of part of the same effort to just nullify
Speaker 1: the concept of discrimination and the hopes that it will
Speaker 1: just create more racists without any kind of historical awareness. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like what does that future look like if they are
Speaker 1: like continue to be successful and it's a world where
Speaker 1: you're not allowed to bring up like that. It's like
Speaker 1: I'm trying to like put it in the context of
Speaker 1: like the future dystopias. It's just like not a future
Speaker 1: dystopia that anyone had really laid out, you know, Like
Speaker 1: what what is the Florida version of the The Watchmen
Speaker 1: like museum. It's like they actually take into account, like
Speaker 1: what would happened, Like what's that version? It seems like
Speaker 1: just in general, they want to set the table energetically
Speaker 1: to be like, hey man, everything's all good here, like
Speaker 1: nobody's oppressed here, okay, And like if you're bringing that up,
Speaker 1: like that's bullshit because nobody's oppressed here. So it just
Speaker 1: looks like modern America. Yeah, yeah, I just I you know,
Speaker 1: similar to the Texas abortion law and this one the
Speaker 1: part of it where it says that basically anybody can
Speaker 1: sue anybody for this and claim that they were breaking
Speaker 1: the law. It's just we're turning the public into a
Speaker 1: bunch of dogs, the bounty hunters. But about abortion and
Speaker 1: critical race theory, and ship, and like the ability to
Speaker 1: do this means that it's going to have people just
Speaker 1: accusing folks left and right, just you know, just because
Speaker 1: they don't like them. You know, you're pissed at your
Speaker 1: neighbor because they blew their leaves into your yard and
Speaker 1: then you claim that they were talking to your kid
Speaker 1: about Martin Luther King or the civil rights or some ship,
Speaker 1: and like it's just it's, uh, that's the future. Instead
Speaker 1: of having this like police state where there's like a
Speaker 1: one in their mind, like you know, some communist police
Speaker 1: department that is is coming to your home and and
Speaker 1: arresting you, it's just everybody is going to be able
Speaker 1: to point the finger and accuse each other and breaking
Speaker 1: laws like that seems to be the Republican dystopian future
Speaker 1: that was like or East Germany. Yeah, yeah, exactly, just
Speaker 1: everybody like we've and we've enabled everyone to go on
Speaker 1: to snitche mode. But yeah, it's and it's it's just
Speaker 1: very cynical. But this is again a cynical party doing
Speaker 1: whatever they can to kind of keep this going. So
Speaker 1: if there are any there's any sort of historical precedent
Speaker 1: that makes what they do now look bad, it's like,
Speaker 1: then we can't talk about that ship at all. But
Speaker 1: the one hope I have is that when you look
Speaker 1: at the like literal complexion of this country and like
Speaker 1: how these younger generations and the diversity of America begins
Speaker 1: to change more and more and more. I don't know
Speaker 1: how many kids of color you're going to be able
Speaker 1: to like get away from this idea that oppression isn't real,
Speaker 1: because on some level it's going to be lived and
Speaker 1: that is a whole other dimension to you can you
Speaker 1: can only teach people so much, but if the lived
Speaker 1: experience is one thing that does that does move people
Speaker 1: in a certain direction. But I think that's the most
Speaker 1: optimistic read at the moment. Yeah, alright, let's uh, let's
Speaker 1: shift focus over to the Biden administration. They're not nailing
Speaker 1: it with like the big core promises they made, such
Speaker 1: as securing voting rights and that stuff, climate change, climate change.
Speaker 1: You know, they're they're still just like throwing up their
Speaker 1: hands and like that, I mean, what fucking cinema. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so that that's not looking good. So we wanted to
Speaker 1: check in with one of his other campaign promises that
Speaker 1: I hadn't even really noticed at the time. But this
Speaker 1: is the quote from Biden during the campaign. I promise you,
Speaker 1: if I'm elected president, you're gonna see the single most
Speaker 1: important thing that changes America. We're gonna cure cancer. Whoa
Speaker 1: that is? That makes me so scared that they're cure
Speaker 1: for cancer exists. They're just trying to figure out when
Speaker 1: to deploy that ship. Yeah, seriously, Yeah, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like that almost seems like yo, I was
Speaker 1: talking to the home he's at Mark right, like an
Speaker 1: October campaign surprise or something. Yeah, exactly, they're gonna save
Speaker 1: it for the second term or something or mid terms
Speaker 1: or something. He's like, y'all if the house goes red,
Speaker 1: I mean, I got this cancer cure. Maybe not. I
Speaker 1: don't have to. I guess y'all weren't good this year,
Speaker 1: so you got has been body being kept on ice?
Speaker 1: That's like, yeah, right, that's a bold statement. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a it's kind of strong. He came, he came with it.
Speaker 1: I thought for sure, like, I know it's you know,
Speaker 1: it's in the italics and everything, So I assumed it
Speaker 1: was on the show document that it was a real quote.
Speaker 1: But that does not sound real at all. Yeah, We're
Speaker 1: gonna cure cancer. That sounds that sounds like a Simpsons
Speaker 1: quote or something of like a politician like running for
Speaker 1: all this that does not sound right, and all the
Speaker 1: rain will be root beer. You're like, yes, I love
Speaker 1: the scott And every pet you've ever known will will
Speaker 1: come back and greet you, you know from your childhood.
Speaker 1: Exactly who what other presidential Canada's first in necromancy. It
Speaker 1: wasn't just a one time you know, his riff gun misfiring.
Speaker 1: This was a thing that he repeated another time. He
Speaker 1: mentioned it another direct quote. I've worked so hard in
Speaker 1: my career that I promise you if I'm elected president,
Speaker 1: you're gonna see the single most important thing that changes
Speaker 1: in America. I've worked so hard in my career that
Speaker 1: it's it's like the central like the that neoliberal idea
Speaker 1: that like, well you just study hard, work hard, and
Speaker 1: like it pays off and you become a billionaire. And
Speaker 1: if you don't, then you should have worked a little
Speaker 1: bit harder. And that is just that ideal misfiring in
Speaker 1: his brain to be well, I've I've worked hard. I mean,
Speaker 1: look at me, I'm running for president, so I must
Speaker 1: have done something right, and therefore I'm gonna cure cancer.
Speaker 1: It's definitely got guy whose wife is threatening to leave
Speaker 1: him energy and like he babe, I swear to God,
Speaker 1: it's going to be different this time. Like you know,
Speaker 1: we're we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna buy that house
Speaker 1: that you've been wanting. You know, we'll we'll we'll spend
Speaker 1: more time together, and I'm gonna cure cancer. And it
Speaker 1: also has like the dude talking to Lenny in of
Speaker 1: Mice and Men energy, like right before he shoots him
Speaker 1: in the back and head. Yeah, yeah, it's all cancer guys.
Speaker 1: Just we're gonna cure cancer. George. Oh boy, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, buddy. Wait, So what is what is that
Speaker 1: even feasible? I mean, because what what's like the because
Speaker 1: I get their constant advancements, right, I always see different
Speaker 1: like obviously the oncology treatments and that that researches is
Speaker 1: rapidly progressing all the time. But like, is that even
Speaker 1: is that even close? Like is even swinging at something
Speaker 1: that can even be hit for a single it's close?
Speaker 1: For So, cancer is a catch all name for hundreds
Speaker 1: and maybe even thousands of types of diseases. We have
Speaker 1: cured some of them. Like that's that's the sort of
Speaker 1: ship that also America is really bad at is like
Speaker 1: stopping and being like, yo, they just cured like this
Speaker 1: type of cancer. They used to like the doctor would
Speaker 1: just tell you you have eighteen months, like now they
Speaker 1: cure it. Like that ship is wild. We don't really
Speaker 1: report that. But yeah, so it's not a single disease.
Speaker 1: There are massive advances happening all the time, and and
Speaker 1: like cancer treatment and even like cancer cures. By the way,
Speaker 1: I do want to just note that this idea that
Speaker 1: sounds so absurd to us that like we are assuming
Speaker 1: that it was like immediately buried by the his like
Speaker 1: administration staffer or his campaign staffers. Trump heard it and
Speaker 1: immediately said that he was going to cure cancer. Ra
Speaker 1: battle of false holy as it just he would cure cancer.
Speaker 1: If that's incredible. We will come up with the cures.
Speaker 1: Too many many problems, too many many diseases, including cancer
Speaker 1: and others, and we're getting closer all the time. Somebody
Speaker 1: taught that man about type one diabetes because I've had
Speaker 1: that sin since I was nine years old, and there's
Speaker 1: still no cure in sight. For that one. So, you know,
Speaker 1: because some taunt taunt Trump, you know, tell him, you
Speaker 1: know what your bitch ask can't does you read for
Speaker 1: the pharmaceutical companies problem. We could. It's just that insulin
Speaker 1: that that's that's quite the profit margin. Trump had proposed
Speaker 1: shrinking the National Cancer Institute's overall budget by almost nine
Speaker 1: million dollars. So that was what he had done to,
Speaker 1: you know, help, but you can't. If you can't diagnose cancer,
Speaker 1: then it it's not They're like, that's that's what he
Speaker 1: was trying to do. Yeah, it's all think come poorly
Speaker 1: in your old age exactly. Scientology. They got some interesting
Speaker 1: ideas about whether cancer is real or whether you're just
Speaker 1: scared but anyways, or you just need more E meter readings. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So Biden's idea was basically based on this thing where
Speaker 1: they would create a version of DARPA, like you know,
Speaker 1: the amazing like futuristic technology weapons Designer called ARPA. H
Speaker 1: that would be like the healthcare version of DARPA, where
Speaker 1: like you just have all of the smartest people using
Speaker 1: all the money and all the futuristic technology to like
Speaker 1: try out all these outside the box things on cancer cures.
Speaker 1: Instead of like fucking bombs that can like dig thirty
Speaker 1: miles underground. They're just gonna be like, Yo, this hypersonic
Speaker 1: missile cures cancer. Just this drone cures cancer. The it
Speaker 1: also happens to kill everything within a thirteen mile radius,
Speaker 1: but the cancer is gone technically, so yeah, it won't
Speaker 1: show up on X ray. So in the spring of one,
Speaker 1: Biden put together his proposal for ARPA H with a
Speaker 1: budget for the year two of six point five billion dollars.
Speaker 1: So he tried and it was unsuccessful. You're never gonna
Speaker 1: believe this. It was unsuccessful. It's been cut down multiple times.
Speaker 1: Now we're looking at a third of it. And also
Speaker 1: he proposed he changed the proposal from being a standalone agency,
Speaker 1: and the whole point is like it's standalone agency that
Speaker 1: like can think outside the box on all this ship
Speaker 1: like to being a wing of the National National Institute
Speaker 1: of Health, which is like very bureaucratic and is sort
Speaker 1: of the thing that you would propose this idea to
Speaker 1: like get around is like, well, so here's like what's
Speaker 1: interesting about this idea is we have this like thing
Speaker 1: of people who are just kind of like blue skying
Speaker 1: in and seeing like if they come up with something
Speaker 1: and everybody's like, well that, so that doesn't you don't
Speaker 1: really have anything. Then you're just like giving the National
Speaker 1: Institute of Health more money and they'll funk it up somehow.
Speaker 1: So I don't know. It's it seems like it is
Speaker 1: not shockingly a watered down version of a water down
Speaker 1: idea that is now being funded at one third of
Speaker 1: what the request was. There is still funding for it,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't seem like we're gonna get this like
Speaker 1: thunderbolt from the sky. Also, like you think about how
Speaker 1: much COVID has disrupted the hospital, Like I have family
Speaker 1: who had to get cancer treatment and during the pandemic,
Speaker 1: and it was not easy, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And to even think it's like you get the fucking
Speaker 1: hospitals running first before you start being like and then
Speaker 1: we're gonna cure cancer because so many people have had
Speaker 1: to delay all kinds of checkups and things like that,
Speaker 1: and the stress of living in a pandemic. You're fucking
Speaker 1: You're like, being on top of your health can go
Speaker 1: into the back real quick and next thing you know,
Speaker 1: you could have serious health issues. Just like there's so
Speaker 1: much ship compounding this that it's very, very frustrating. Yeah,
Speaker 1: almost the whole health care system is to be fixed,
Speaker 1: and not just like I'm gonna get a splashy headline
Speaker 1: by making the a team of cancer research. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean he so he and right twenty twenty one,
Speaker 1: he said he was gonna do everything we can to
Speaker 1: end cancer as we know it once we beat COVID.
Speaker 1: And like you said that the idea that there are
Speaker 1: two separate things is wrong and misguided, and the pandemic
Speaker 1: is massively affecting millions of Yeah, it's all it's all systemic,
Speaker 1: this whole, this whole thing. And I've been intimately familiar
Speaker 1: with our health care system. Like I said, I was
Speaker 1: diagnosed with diabetes when I was nine years old. I
Speaker 1: spent a week in the hospital, and so it's you know,
Speaker 1: I've had a lifetime and I've gone long periods of
Speaker 1: not having healthcare. I've literally had to shoplift my insulin before.
Speaker 1: That is a true story from Walmart. You know, when
Speaker 1: I was eight seen thing I kicked off of Medicare
Speaker 1: and and uh literally had to sweet talk to ladies
Speaker 1: into handing me insulin, you know, at the pharmacy, and
Speaker 1: then uh and and then you know, slipping it into
Speaker 1: my pocket before I walked out, and you know, not
Speaker 1: proud of it, but I don't give a ship because
Speaker 1: it's Walmart. Fuck him. But also like you shouldn't feel
Speaker 1: ashamed that you have to exist. Yeah exactly exactly, Like
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, I have to I have to do
Speaker 1: this to actually live. Yeah yeah, yeah, there's there's so
Speaker 1: like there's immediate things that need to be addressed first
Speaker 1: like that. Now the concept of ARPA, h it sounds
Speaker 1: cool as hell to me. I know, in practice, the
Speaker 1: people that are actually going to be making this thing
Speaker 1: function and the bureaucracy, like you said, Jack is is
Speaker 1: going to make it an impossible, impossible thing to accomplish.
Speaker 1: But I love the idea. It's like a futuristic like ah,
Speaker 1: Like it feels like the plot set up of like
Speaker 1: some some Michael Bay movie or something where we find
Speaker 1: out that the government funded this secret department that you know,
Speaker 1: basically solved all of the world's ailments and and uh
Speaker 1: and disease create an island full of clones. Yeah exactly,
Speaker 1: shout out to that movie. That movie doesn't get enough
Speaker 1: love the Island. Yeah, one of the great I like
Speaker 1: that one. Yeah, but uh yeah, it's it's just I
Speaker 1: don't You're absolutely right, it's gonna get funked up. And
Speaker 1: and do you blame anybody for being cynical anymore when
Speaker 1: like this something is as like as should be universally proposed,
Speaker 1: as like trying to secure diseases that everybody gets affected by,
Speaker 1: gets trimmed down from just a easily six point five
Speaker 1: billion what's our defense budget like eight hundred billion dollars
Speaker 1: six point five billion, and we can't even get like
Speaker 1: a third of that past for this this reason. Maybe
Speaker 1: that was their thing, is like maybe the thing it's
Speaker 1: for dark buff for like defense defense research. They're like yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: great man, let's good, good good, Like yes, the H
Speaker 1: actually stands for health fire, health fire missiles. It's ARPA.
Speaker 1: It's just a whole ARPA department just for health fire missiles.
Speaker 1: Oh we already had one. Oh it's for um helicopters. Hell, yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: we need more attack choppers. But yeah, I mean the
Speaker 1: look look at the amount of money and lives spent
Speaker 1: on a response to nine eleven and as opposed to
Speaker 1: the current pandemic, and like it's like it's we we
Speaker 1: care so much more about like violence than we do
Speaker 1: about like the humanity of of the people in our country.
Speaker 1: It's awful, I think. Yeah, And if this cynicism just
Speaker 1: comes with observing how you know, just more you know,
Speaker 1: speaking of just specific about the United States, you know,
Speaker 1: the reflection of how you feel the country treats you
Speaker 1: or how much you think the government cares about you,
Speaker 1: And it's very apparent that they don't give a fuck
Speaker 1: at all. So yeah, when you have when you have
Speaker 1: people who don't give a funk promising you things like
Speaker 1: hey man, we're gonna get you healthy, it's like okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah right. It's really frustrating too. Is that particularly about Biden?
Speaker 1: As I think Biden thinks he gives a ship. He
Speaker 1: just like doesn't. He thinks he's well, he's just yeah,
Speaker 1: he's just he's a fucking relic man. And he's like
Speaker 1: in that like liberal headspace where it's like, well, I
Speaker 1: said the good things, and that's putting hope out there.
Speaker 1: But like, come on, folks, it's hard out here. You've
Speaker 1: got to contend with all these lobbying groups like we
Speaker 1: do the best we can and then we just keep
Speaker 1: this thing going. And that I think that helps him
Speaker 1: sleep at night. That or his just severe old age, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that helps him sleep upright, and sitting at his desk
Speaker 1: for fifteen minute increments every five minutes. I would love
Speaker 1: to talk to him for like twenty minutes, just to see,
Speaker 1: like if I could funk with him, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, just like kind of get him saying so
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, I agree with that man, Keep going,
Speaker 1: keep going. He's like yeah, and all the all the
Speaker 1: black people, they'll do a black people test where they
Speaker 1: got a vote for me, and then they get their
Speaker 1: black horn, like yes, Joe, keep talking that ship man,
Speaker 1: and they're like, oh, please, please please get this guy
Speaker 1: away from him because he's entertaining all his worst thoughts. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you always hear stories about like but this guy in person,
Speaker 1: like the specifically the President's like, you know, Clinton is
Speaker 1: one thing on camera, but like you get him in person,
Speaker 1: he knows that everyone's name. He like will like hold
Speaker 1: a really a depth conversation with you while doing the
Speaker 1: New are Times crossword puzzle and sexually harassing a woman
Speaker 1: in the back row or something. But like, I I
Speaker 1: feel like our last two presidents are probably like if
Speaker 1: you got them in person, you'd be like, you know
Speaker 1: that that level of ego it creeps me out. Like
Speaker 1: I've been around politicians a few times, and that just
Speaker 1: or like just very successful businessman CEO types in general.
Speaker 1: I it makes my skin crawl to be in the
Speaker 1: same room with them quite often. And I don't I
Speaker 1: don't know that I could handle being in the same
Speaker 1: room with a sitting or former US president. It would
Speaker 1: it would be overwhelming, and I would say some ship
Speaker 1: that would get me in trouble. Probably You're like, are
Speaker 1: You're like, what's that war criminal? Hey man, come on now,
Speaker 1: it's not fair. I'm sorry. Sure the Hag would love
Speaker 1: to see you though. Anyway, Well, thanks for the poke.
Speaker 1: A Obama, I don't get it. Don't get a about
Speaker 1: your because I'm I'm in Obama's house in Hawaii. Yeah, definitely,
Speaker 1: that was the whole thing I envisioned. We're all here
Speaker 1: on looking at diamond Head, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Scene building was definitely a job. He's definitely serving you poke. Oh,
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Speaker 1: Such a pleasure having you. Yeah, where can people find you?
Speaker 1: Follow you? All that good stuff? Well, thank you so much.
Speaker 1: It's been an absolute pleasure. I called my mom and
Speaker 1: told her I was on t d ZY today and
Speaker 1: she said, what the funk is that? And then on
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Speaker 1: be here, you know, just a local kid that made good.
Speaker 1: Took me five years of tweeting at you to incessantly
Speaker 1: uh to be invited on here, but it was worth
Speaker 1: it tweeting great stuff at us. So don't don't think
Speaker 1: that everybody else. Don't think you can just tweet it
Speaker 1: us and get on this show. You have to be
Speaker 1: very talented. All the all the work that I didn't
Speaker 1: get done at my job, coming up with a ka's
Speaker 1: and and ship was absolutely worth it. So thank you again.
Speaker 1: Um Yeah. George Center is the podcast that we drop
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Speaker 1: are possible through Him. So all right is there? Uh
Speaker 1: I'm not laughing aty'all. I'm not laughing y'all better get
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Speaker 1: you are only child. That was that was intimidating. Miles
Speaker 1: where you can people find you? What's a tweet you've
Speaker 1: been enjoying? Man? You find me Twitter and Instagram at
Speaker 1: Miles of Gray. And also if you like ninety day
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Speaker 1: That's the show I do with Sophia Alexandra. Uh. First
Speaker 1: tweet I like is from did you do a tweets?
Speaker 1: You know? I didn't. I just realized I didn't because
Speaker 1: I was making sure. I felt like you know in
Speaker 1: middle school when you call it R and B and
Speaker 1: you want to shout out all your middle school friends.
Speaker 1: I feel like that's what I was just doing just then.
Speaker 1: But uh, uh so tweets I've been liking from Schwitz
Speaker 1: a y, what is the difference between a prime minister
Speaker 1: and the president of Prime Ministers are only divisible by
Speaker 1: one of themselves? Posting monkey, Uh, plant your four free
Speaker 1: COVID tests and six months you have five COVID tests.
Speaker 1: Sell them for two thousand dollars each. Boom, You're a
Speaker 1: millionaire and uh from Writhing Underscore South self checkout feels
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Speaker 1: please place item in the bagging area. Yeah. Those are
Speaker 1: just three tweets I've been fucking with lately. There it
Speaker 1: is miles where can people find you? What's the tweet
Speaker 1: you've been enjoying? As I said, miles of gray? You
Speaker 1: heard all that? Uh? Some tweets I like. First one
Speaker 1: is from Chrissy at crib c h R I b
Speaker 1: b z Z tweeted, I'll be like I'm entering my
Speaker 1: villain era and it's you just asserting boundaries, which is
Speaker 1: so true because we are conditioned to think that having
Speaker 1: boundaries is some kind of villainous activity. Uh. And another
Speaker 1: one I just left so so much. This one Myisha
Speaker 1: the Stallion at Myisha cho c h O you tweeted
Speaker 1: it's like a picture of a COVID test, you know,
Speaker 1: like where it has one line or two lines and
Speaker 1: it says just got my at home testing care from
Speaker 1: the US government. And the picture where it says like result,
Speaker 1: it just says go to work. It's funny because it's true, right,
Speaker 1: And the last one, Mr John Darby tweeted Fred Flintstone,
Speaker 1: I've got a problem with my car. A dietrist. Let's
Speaker 1: take a look. Let's see, uh serious one I enjoyed.
Speaker 1: Sister Helen Prejean tweeted, the death penalty is fundamentally a
Speaker 1: poor person's issue. I've never met a single person with
Speaker 1: money or resources on death row. Capital punishment means those
Speaker 1: without the capital get the punishment. That's just straight up facts.
Speaker 1: DJ Fuck tweeted love language. Uh, yeah, I do. It's
Speaker 1: very useful and I also, I don't think i'd ever
Speaker 1: seen this pinned tweet before, but from our very young Christie,
Speaker 1: I'm a Gucci man. Brom Stoker sounds like the coolest
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Speaker 1: song that we think you might enjoy Miles song do
Speaker 1: we think people might enjoy? Oh? Man, So there's this
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Speaker 1: so she's like a wonderful beat maker producer DJ from
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Speaker 1: the Flower Blooms, which is actually, if you remember the
Speaker 1: first episode, the red Light green Light episode, that the
Speaker 1: little robot isn't saying red light green light, it's saying
Speaker 1: that the Mugua flower has bloom. So that's so when
Speaker 1: you hear this episode, there's a sample of the that
Speaker 1: robot talking, but it's actually Toke Monster doing it because
Speaker 1: she's also Korean. So this it's kind of it's wild
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Speaker 1: The Flower Bloms? Yeah, what is that? What the game like?
Speaker 1: Is that how you play the game in Korea? I
Speaker 1: wonder is that like how what they say said a
Speaker 1: red light green light? I think because our version is
Speaker 1: called red Light glimp green light, but they're the words
Speaker 1: just aren't red green light because it's a nation of
Speaker 1: national flowers. From what I'm saying, I went in deep
Speaker 1: on this because people are like, it's not red light
Speaker 1: green light, and we're like, but that's the game that
Speaker 1: we just are parallel game. Yeah, no, it's just so
Speaker 1: much more poetic. We're like red light green light, you
Speaker 1: go somewhere, you're a car, and then they're like them
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