Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to nineteen, episode
Speaker 1: five of Jury at Least Like Guys production of I
Speaker 1: Heart Radio. Now This, Well, this is a podcast where
Speaker 1: we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. It's Friday,
Speaker 1: January four two, which of course means that it is
Speaker 1: National Hot Pastrami Day. Get that Colpus drama out of here.
Speaker 1: Only the Hottest rams and ratification Day at a Treaty
Speaker 1: of Paris and the Revolutionary War, you know, the beginning
Speaker 1: of this fucked up experiment that wor Man. I didn't
Speaker 1: even know that was a thing. It's like just said
Speaker 1: that it's such a like small part of like US
Speaker 1: history because everyone just like, man, that's the only date
Speaker 1: in the revolution. But I get it. This is when
Speaker 1: they said no more, no more shooting at each other. Well,
Speaker 1: my name is Jack O'Brien, a K. Jack skipped Dr
Speaker 1: Jay's Last Game to watch Jaws two on TV. O'Brien
Speaker 1: that's courtesy of Paul Garaventa. Thanks for bringing that back, Paul.
Speaker 1: I actually did I did uh do a little research
Speaker 1: because I think I had said that it was the
Speaker 1: last time my grandfather played Dr j It was actually
Speaker 1: Dr J's last home game in Philadelphia. It was I
Speaker 1: just read Dr J gets thirty and final Philly home game.
Speaker 1: The last quote of this article, this was a very
Speaker 1: different night, seventy six Ers coach Matt Guka says, a salute,
Speaker 1: a send off, and then Doc reaching his milestone. You'll
Speaker 1: probably never see another night like this in NBA history.
Speaker 1: So so that is what I skipped to watch a
Speaker 1: TV edit of Jaws to a movie that I could
Speaker 1: rent on VHS anytime. But you know, I mean, I
Speaker 1: was who I was, right, But I feel like, yeah,
Speaker 1: life is full of those moments. You're like, was I
Speaker 1: thinking like if I had the chance to choose between
Speaker 1: those two things, and I would have done it completely
Speaker 1: the other way, but you had your priority straight back. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And also I'm not sure I would have switched it
Speaker 1: if I had to do over again. Okay, hell yeah,
Speaker 1: you know I was real and Sharks. Anyways, I am
Speaker 1: thrilled to be joined as always by my co host
Speaker 1: Mr Miles Grog drank BE, drank P, my friend drank
Speaker 1: P drank P again. I won't get on me, Cronna, No, no,
Speaker 1: I won't get on me. Cron to Rando Dixon ard
Speaker 1: on the Discord for that Nirvana inspired a k a
Speaker 1: uh yeah obviously vaccine police tone out here, drink your
Speaker 1: pet man safe. The Discord is bringing it. Yeah, some
Speaker 1: fire exhaustible. I gotta just chip away at this thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I don't look at the Discord just it's a
Speaker 1: time thing. I just feel like I would spend so
Speaker 1: much of my time in there, so my twitter ak
Speaker 1: heads out here just roasting me instead of giving me
Speaker 1: that just just being like, hey, remember that time you
Speaker 1: were extremely suspect as a six year old. Why don't
Speaker 1: we why don't we bring that up? Anyway, Miles. We're
Speaker 1: throwed to be joining our third by one of our
Speaker 1: favorite guests on t d Z, a poet and podcaster
Speaker 1: who you can hear on the American Hysteria podcast exploring
Speaker 1: the fantastical thinking, irrational fears of Americans throughout the years,
Speaker 1: through the lens of moral panics, urban legends, conspiracy theories.
Speaker 1: Please welcome the brilliant and talented Chelsea Weber Smith. Thanks
Speaker 1: for having me, and I would have chosen Jaws too.
Speaker 1: I think that was an act of love. Jaws Too too,
Speaker 1: write you recognize that it's not the original Jaws, which
Speaker 1: was at that time, I thought a superior Joss just
Speaker 1: because the shark was bigger, I think, And there were
Speaker 1: like some at one point the shark blows up a
Speaker 1: water skiing boat somehow. So those were the things that
Speaker 1: I was into. Yeah, out of here. Yeah, I picked
Speaker 1: basketball over romance once. Uh the Valentine's Day dance in
Speaker 1: high school, my friend and I we just ghosted our
Speaker 1: dates because Vince Carter was going to be in the
Speaker 1: slam dunk contest. That was the right choice. I don't gay.
Speaker 1: That is my like flash bowl memory like for like
Speaker 1: my friends, and I'm always curious, like where were you
Speaker 1: don contest when Vince Carter did that reverse windmill three
Speaker 1: sixty everything. Apologies you know for talking to Homiean and
Speaker 1: I going to the dimpo. It was we knew it
Speaker 1: was gonna be a whole event, so and it was
Speaker 1: so well. Shout out to Melissa, my cousin, Melissa, coolest
Speaker 1: person in who stayed home and babysat me while I
Speaker 1: watched just two. Uh, Chelsea, what's new? What's good? How
Speaker 1: how have you been? You know? Yesterday I was just
Speaker 1: working in my office and I hear what I think
Speaker 1: was like a bird fight, and I'm very interested in
Speaker 1: the neighborhood birds right now because I have anything else
Speaker 1: to do, So grab my binocular as I went outside,
Speaker 1: and it was actually two tiny kittens. So now taking
Speaker 1: care of two tiny kittens that are like fucking four
Speaker 1: weeks old right now. And that was gonna say that
Speaker 1: the whole day since then, Yeah, I was gonna say that.
Speaker 1: Bird fight is the British term for when dudes are
Speaker 1: like catfight. In America, they say, what's a bird How
Speaker 1: did it? What's a bird fight? Soundically like that, You're
Speaker 1: like bird fight? And right, well, for example, like some
Speaker 1: sort of predatory bird, and the crows you got like
Speaker 1: like it was like a very high pitched sound that
Speaker 1: almost sounds like a woodpecker like that, like and then
Speaker 1: but it was the tiniest, loudest screams of these two
Speaker 1: perfect tiny kittens. So you know, what do you do?
Speaker 1: I mean, I would say foster. I think, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: like the you know, I'm like the grumpy old husband
Speaker 1: that's like, well, we can't have these, you know writings,
Speaker 1: and then later they'll be my baby's right to you.
Speaker 1: I've seen those videos on TikTok before where it's like
Speaker 1: the Grandpa, I didn't want a dog, and then it's
Speaker 1: like exactly every day on the reclainer, Yeah, exactly. We
Speaker 1: gotta sit an example here, otherwise all these kittens are
Speaker 1: just gonna be coming to our backyard getting into fights. End.
Speaker 1: Every once in a while, there will just speaking of
Speaker 1: bird fights and the crow example, you'll just see like
Speaker 1: a crow just bombing through the backyard with something horrifying
Speaker 1: and and it's beak and like a whole squadron of
Speaker 1: birds following it. That's I feel like that's pretty regular
Speaker 1: these days. Yeah. Well, you know, over and I saw
Speaker 1: his crow was eating like chicken bones, and as I
Speaker 1: walked by, he picked up one of the chicken bones
Speaker 1: and laid it across the other in like a perfect X. Yeah.
Speaker 1: That's how they lead, right, that's not that thing. I know,
Speaker 1: super smart use tools, Like there's there's a species of
Speaker 1: crow that they're like can use tools. Crows as to
Speaker 1: the highway, Yeah, those tools, they're like these dumb masses
Speaker 1: always drive over this part, so we're going to drop
Speaker 1: the nuts. Let them one of my cars. In Japan,
Speaker 1: she used to feed these crows out of window all
Speaker 1: the time. And at first they'd always be loud or whatever,
Speaker 1: and then she's like, you know, like let me just
Speaker 1: give them someone like scraps when I'm cleaning up, and
Speaker 1: like they would come and eat. And one day she
Speaker 1: was like frying something and like left her oil on
Speaker 1: and it's spilled over and it started like and she
Speaker 1: fell asleep in the other room and like she had
Speaker 1: like an oil fire in her kitchen starting up. The
Speaker 1: crows flew into her house and started calling, like trying
Speaker 1: to wake her up, and like when she got up,
Speaker 1: she prevented her whole house from burning down because these
Speaker 1: crows came through with the fucking warning. That's that should
Speaker 1: have been the first story you The first thing you
Speaker 1: ever said to me was the story you just told
Speaker 1: me five years into our friendship. Yeah, sorry, I like
Speaker 1: to look, I can't, I can't give up all the
Speaker 1: gems off you know away. Yeah, these crows are la.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get to know you a little bit better
Speaker 1: in a moment. First, we're gonna tell our listeners a
Speaker 1: couple of things we're talking about. We're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: how you know, something with voting rights, something the Democrats
Speaker 1: are serious this time and uh, you know that's something
Speaker 1: not enough votes. Yeah, I don't know. We'll talk about
Speaker 1: mc McConnell verse Trump. Whoever wins we lose, We're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about. So Prince Andrew got dropped by the royal family,
Speaker 1: kind of lost all the ceremonial ships, and I'm just
Speaker 1: making a pitch to the world right now, somebody needs
Speaker 1: to get close to him and be like, hey, you
Speaker 1: gotta tell your story. Let's start doing a documentary Andrew,
Speaker 1: because yeah, jin stuff, but I think it would be
Speaker 1: a one of the great historical documents. Just watching this
Speaker 1: person who has never encountered reality before. It's like it's
Speaker 1: like if Christopher Guests did to make Maid Gray Gardens
Speaker 1: or something exactly in there now, we might not even
Speaker 1: talk about that. That was basically my pitch right there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Christopher Guests, go go man. I also just want to
Speaker 1: talk about there's new Havannah syndrome cases. I just want
Speaker 1: to check back in see Chelsea if you have any
Speaker 1: updated thinking on Havana syndrome and just talk about where
Speaker 1: I continue to be with that story. All of that
Speaker 1: plenty more, But first Chelsea, we do like to ask
Speaker 1: our guests, what is something from your search history. Alright,
Speaker 1: what we got so well, mine is Westboro Baptist Church,
Speaker 1: Bill O'Reilly and Coulter would be the one that came
Speaker 1: up because our next episode is on the Westboro Baptist Church.
Speaker 1: So just been like fucking just steeped in it, you know,
Speaker 1: because we're trying to understand not just throw things like well,
Speaker 1: God's actually loving, but be like, alright, where how did
Speaker 1: you guys get here? What's you're thinking? What is your
Speaker 1: philosophy that allows you to do this? Because everybody's philosophy
Speaker 1: allows them to feel like they're doing something right, So
Speaker 1: we're just trying to understand their whole thing, and then
Speaker 1: also kind of tie that to outrage and outrage culture
Speaker 1: and how this is like one of those rare moments
Speaker 1: where the Westboro Baptist Church united us in our outrage
Speaker 1: both the laft and the right by protesting funerals of
Speaker 1: AIDS victims and soldiers at the same time and kind
Speaker 1: of fusing them together. So we're like exploring all that,
Speaker 1: and then I kind of came across something interesting, and
Speaker 1: that was this conversation between and culture and Bill O'Reilly
Speaker 1: back in like when the Westbrook maybe you guys, remember
Speaker 1: the Westboro Baptist Church was going through all this litigation
Speaker 1: because they protested this particular troops funeral, and then they
Speaker 1: were sued by the family and it became this like huge, huge,
Speaker 1: huge news story that year, and everybody was kind of
Speaker 1: paying attention to it, and uh, eventually the family, So yeah,
Speaker 1: the family sued them. It was overturned like one. It
Speaker 1: was overturned, went to the Supreme Court, and then the
Speaker 1: Supreme Court upheld their right protest outside of these funerals, right,
Speaker 1: and everybody was super mad. And then the argument was
Speaker 1: free speech. So I was watching and Coulter and Bill
Speaker 1: O'Reilly be very very very outraged at this offensive stuff
Speaker 1: and be calling for the Westboro Baptist Church to be
Speaker 1: silenced and that they had caused enough. What is it's
Speaker 1: an outturt of outrage is the law, and it's intentional
Speaker 1: infliction of emotional abuse. So the conversation was, are the
Speaker 1: Westboro Baptist Church causing enough emotional abuse to no longer
Speaker 1: be protected? And so I just find I found it
Speaker 1: very interesting considering what I imagine are their opinions on
Speaker 1: other types of emotional abuse. Right, So it's just kind
Speaker 1: of funny, and and there was like this great moment
Speaker 1: at the end, you know, because and cultures such as
Speaker 1: you know, she's doesn't she's so awful, but also she's
Speaker 1: got like that ability to be so snyde that it's
Speaker 1: kind of funny. And at the end and she's being
Speaker 1: snider Bill O'Riley. It's this hard thing where I'm like
Speaker 1: pulled back and forth between who I hate. But then
Speaker 1: she gives him after she explains why Bill O'Reilly, she
Speaker 1: finds him to be correct that they shouldn't have been
Speaker 1: able to continue what they were doing. And then she
Speaker 1: says at the end, like the law totally supports your position, Bill,
Speaker 1: and then he starts talking like well, thank you, thank you,
Speaker 1: and then she just goes shockingly enough and she gives
Speaker 1: this like shitty little smile, and it's just so this
Speaker 1: video is just like so interesting. So yeah, that that's
Speaker 1: my We're just like steeped in this weird Calvinist thing
Speaker 1: and it's not exactly a cult. It's just such a
Speaker 1: crazy story. Like watching all of them on Howard Stern right,
Speaker 1: like they weren't just this church. They were pop cultural
Speaker 1: supervillain icons for a second, like they were so much
Speaker 1: more than we remember. I think when did that road
Speaker 1: documentary come out? I would say, what, yeah, okay, right,
Speaker 1: right right, because that's when like that was sort of
Speaker 1: my first glimpse into it, watching them sort of speak
Speaker 1: talk their ship and you're like, well, yeah, and be
Speaker 1: like a being like a like watching them be a
Speaker 1: family is so odd too, because they are and they're
Speaker 1: all like, it's just not it's not this like very
Speaker 1: like you would almost think of it as like a
Speaker 1: what like a very puritanical, but they're like allowed to
Speaker 1: listen to music and where whatever they want within reason,
Speaker 1: and like they're allowed to do all these things that
Speaker 1: you wouldn't expect, and it's like oddly normal, like to
Speaker 1: go to public school and then during lunch they leave
Speaker 1: public school where they actually do have people that are
Speaker 1: there like friends, and then they just stand outside the
Speaker 1: school with you know, science like all these awful signs
Speaker 1: and then they go like all right, mom, I got
Speaker 1: to go back to class. It's exactly that, yeah, And
Speaker 1: so it's just this bizarre like really trying to get
Speaker 1: past just like the outrage of it and and get like,
Speaker 1: I mean that's what our show does, and just like
Speaker 1: dig through the the minutia of all of it, and
Speaker 1: it's been really really interesting. And how you know, they
Speaker 1: were used by people like Jerry Fallwell to be like, well,
Speaker 1: they're the real bad people, while Jerry Fallwell is actually
Speaker 1: causing them, but not saying it in a mean way, right,
Speaker 1: but doing the same means and ends. They figured out
Speaker 1: like how to you know, control a big portion of
Speaker 1: the discourse with just a handful of people who like
Speaker 1: some well placed lawsuits, Like they were the original ship
Speaker 1: posters just they're you know, completely devoid of any kind
Speaker 1: of coherent ideological content. They were just doing shipped to
Speaker 1: anger the mainstream media and get get coverage. Basically they
Speaker 1: were good at it. I mean we we also took
Speaker 1: the baitman. You know, it's wild. So yeah, strange thing,
Speaker 1: you know, to let seventy people be so powerful to
Speaker 1: wild you know, yeah, I mean yeah, right now we're
Speaker 1: letting know like be very powerful in the Senate. So yeah. Um.
Speaker 1: I kind of struggled with this one, but I feel
Speaker 1: like going and doing stuff is mine because I've found
Speaker 1: that I'm much more of a like through this whole
Speaker 1: pandemic thing, I found that I'm much more of a
Speaker 1: loner than I thought. And that's why I'm talking about
Speaker 1: bird drama in the neighborhood. You know, like that's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's like I just go on these Like
Speaker 1: there was that tweet in the beginning of the pandemic
Speaker 1: that was like nobody could do anything. So it was like,
Speaker 1: I guess I'll just go on another shitty little walk
Speaker 1: and just like, yeah, that just never ended for me.
Speaker 1: And you know, I know the local Uh there's two
Speaker 1: eagles that hang out and on our football field and
Speaker 1: they kill sewels on the football field. It's very American.
Speaker 1: And I'm like walking by and the yeah, and their
Speaker 1: names and I looked it up and their names are
Speaker 1: j and Bay. That's when they were named by whomever
Speaker 1: names like local bird, like the local bird whatever society.
Speaker 1: So they like track these eagles. So like I knew
Speaker 1: that the eagle went and had like special eagle surgery
Speaker 1: and the eagle was fine. And yeah, their names are
Speaker 1: Jay and Bay. And uh, you know, we got a
Speaker 1: squirrel that we give some nuts to. It's snowed recently.
Speaker 1: We made sure we took care of the hummingbirds. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I was never like an animal person that
Speaker 1: much before and now I just like simple, yeah, well
Speaker 1: so animals don't have political takes, so it makes it
Speaker 1: a lot easier sakes. It's really night well well yeah,
Speaker 1: not always. It's pretty uh, it's pretty glaring the metaphor.
Speaker 1: So they the eagles got like interventional surgery to protect
Speaker 1: and improve their health, and then they used that to
Speaker 1: murder a seagull. I mean, I guess you know there's
Speaker 1: a but what did anybody try and do emergency surgery
Speaker 1: on the seagulls or we're just yeah, got it, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're the right. Yeah. Science has officially recently uh designated
Speaker 1: to find designated uh seagulls as jabroniboni species, yeah, species
Speaker 1: of or actually is not a bird. Yeah yeah, it's
Speaker 1: I always see those takes about like a lot of
Speaker 1: people being like, you know, the weirdest thing about pandemic
Speaker 1: or the thing that I've learned to do is to
Speaker 1: say no to things I don't want to do anymore.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, yeah, like that's been man, the amount of
Speaker 1: like socially like social pressure that'd be like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: guess I gotta go do this thing. I guess I
Speaker 1: gotta go meet up here now I'm like purely like now,
Speaker 1: you know, like for me, just for like my own
Speaker 1: you know, sanctity and in safety and sanity, I will
Speaker 1: I just need to be chilled by myself for a
Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, and I think we have more empathy
Speaker 1: for people canceling now on us. Yeah, like you don't
Speaker 1: know worries, no worries, no worries. Yeah, but that's beautiful
Speaker 1: because that was a very stressful thing in life, the
Speaker 1: codependent thing of needing to do whatever you said you do.
Speaker 1: And now everybody has finally admitted how much we like
Speaker 1: to be able to cancel. Now I'm gonna look after
Speaker 1: myself and my needs. Yeah, I'm not gonna I'm also
Speaker 1: not gonna lie to you and say I want to
Speaker 1: be here. I'm gonna be honest when I want to
Speaker 1: be there. Yeah, I will continue to be lying, but
Speaker 1: yeah I have definitely, uh, I will stay lying in effect,
Speaker 1: maybe pick it up a little bit, but definitely. The
Speaker 1: whole thing about avoiding situations where yeah, like I was
Speaker 1: talking to my therapist about like, I think my social
Speaker 1: anxiety is getting better, and then I was like, wait, no,
Speaker 1: I just haven't been in situations with people who make
Speaker 1: me feel social anxiety for a couple of months. Anyways,
Speaker 1: what is something you think is underrated? This one's for miles,
Speaker 1: and that is getting back into tech deck. Tech deck
Speaker 1: is severely underrated and then kind of disappeared except for
Speaker 1: like weird pockets of YouTube. So I've been like trying
Speaker 1: to brush up get this sick deck. My room is
Speaker 1: too dark and me in like a terrifying room for them.
Speaker 1: But uh, yeah, I don't know. That's I don't have
Speaker 1: a lot to say about it. It's except that it's, uh,
Speaker 1: if you're a fidgety type, it's a really nice way
Speaker 1: to and you know, I love doing little things where
Speaker 1: I can slowly improve and it's just simple, you know,
Speaker 1: And it's like I can slowly learn new things and
Speaker 1: it's not you know. So that's another thing I do
Speaker 1: because I don't hang out with other people. Reverting to
Speaker 1: many finger skateboards. Yes, sorry, sorry, I always found confusing
Speaker 1: because my brain just immediately like turns that into some
Speaker 1: form of technology that I don't know about. But no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: we're going back in time here. Do you ever get it?
Speaker 1: Eat your ever? Much of the tech tech check? No
Speaker 1: No I got I was too heavy into pugs straight
Speaker 1: through to you. Yeah, one time I landed like a
Speaker 1: real solid trick on a tech deck. Luckily a camera
Speaker 1: was rolling and all. Never like I only have one thing,
Speaker 1: like only one piece of footie from my skate tape.
Speaker 1: But it's sick, dude, it's a knowledge. Yeah, I can
Speaker 1: find It's on my Instagram and I think I said
Speaker 1: it to a funk with me. You know, I got
Speaker 1: it by James Ross. Now that was the first thing
Speaker 1: that he told me about when I when I met him,
Speaker 1: was that tech deck. What you're like, dude, anlie kick
Speaker 1: flip on a tech what? I feel like it's coming back, man,
Speaker 1: because it's like we got this early two thousand's playing
Speaker 1: coming back of all kinds of ship and I don't know,
Speaker 1: I think it can happen. Yeah, we'll see, we'll see
Speaker 1: jackasses coming back. Now is the time exactly exactly alright,
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break. We'll be right back and
Speaker 1: we're back and where it will be linking off to
Speaker 1: this Instagram Miles Sallie kick flip with us quadruple kick flip.
Speaker 1: I don't even know, like people can check the rotations.
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's ridiculous. The editing is amazing. It's
Speaker 1: interesting to see Miles as like a you know, young
Speaker 1: social media influencer doing that's when I worked for YouTube.
Speaker 1: Yeah you got the the YouTube energy is strong and
Speaker 1: oh yeah, and the office too was so YouTube down
Speaker 1: there and Marina del right babeat that ran del right one. No,
Speaker 1: so we is like an official daily show with YouTube,
Speaker 1: but our office was like across the street from the
Speaker 1: space right down there. Oh okay, I gotta gotta gotta
Speaker 1: all right, well, let's let's start talking some news. The
Speaker 1: something with voting rights, like Biden's piste buns gonna do
Speaker 1: something about those voting rights. There's even been mentioned of
Speaker 1: the of filibuster reform to pass some voting rights stuff.
Speaker 1: But what what's the latest? The same thing. Right in,
Speaker 1: the Democrats are just watching another agenda item go before
Speaker 1: their eyes. Um, and this time it was, you know,
Speaker 1: it's about voting rights. They're like, all right, fuck the
Speaker 1: build back there, ship. Okay, let's try something else. Maybe
Speaker 1: people can get behind voting rights. Maybe we can get
Speaker 1: a one or two Republicans. No. So, on Thursday, the
Speaker 1: House passed their voting rights package, which is like you know,
Speaker 1: more early vote days all all mainly and everything making
Speaker 1: election day a holiday, same day voter registration and that stuff,
Speaker 1: like also the John Lewis Act, which is sort of
Speaker 1: about making sure that d o J had time to review, uh,
Speaker 1: like certain proposals to like maps and things like that
Speaker 1: from states before they were implemented. So you know, but
Speaker 1: this is followed the pattern of every single thing we've
Speaker 1: seen with this current Senate, which is it'll pass the
Speaker 1: House and then it goes to the Senate where fucking
Speaker 1: Gandolf is up in there because it shall not pass.
Speaker 1: That's just the vibes in there. And there's no movement
Speaker 1: on filibuster reform either. We've Joe Mansion and Kirsen Cinema,
Speaker 1: they've made it clear they don't want to reform ship,
Speaker 1: not even to like help their party maintain power. Okay,
Speaker 1: so you know there are there are headlines like you're saying,
Speaker 1: like Biden will huddle with the Senate Dems or Biden
Speaker 1: to make case for voting rights. But I'm really failing
Speaker 1: to see how this passes the Senate. It's not like
Speaker 1: any of the Republicans are going to join in on
Speaker 1: this or into the concept of fairness, but the way
Speaker 1: the I guess, like the way they're hoping to do
Speaker 1: something as I've heard it describe. Think Elizabeth Warrener was like,
Speaker 1: it's like flying a plane and then building a landing
Speaker 1: gear midflight, hoping you can land it by the time
Speaker 1: you it's time to land it. And I think that
Speaker 1: what they're gonna do is bring it there hoping to
Speaker 1: start a debate within the Senate. Have you know, have
Speaker 1: Joe Manson and Kirsen cinema here just how much Republicans
Speaker 1: are against making it easier for people to vote, and
Speaker 1: then hope that then they'll come back around and be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I like, like, let's let's reform the rules because I've
Speaker 1: seen enough now. It's very a lot of like Senate mechanics,
Speaker 1: but essentially it's what we're looking at is somewhat of
Speaker 1: a Hill Mary pass or a Hill Satan pass. Right.
Speaker 1: It's like doing what Elizabeth Warren said, if you had
Speaker 1: done that like three previous times and every single time
Speaker 1: it crashed into the same spot in the mountain, and
Speaker 1: you were like, well, how about this idea, It's like
Speaker 1: you just described the thing that you have done over
Speaker 1: and over again that has failed every single time. It's
Speaker 1: more like Laura Lee in Yellow Jackets taking a second spoilers. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it. I'm just saying that's anyway, We've
Speaker 1: got a lot of Plaine energy flying around the zait
Speaker 1: guys at the moment, and it all seems to be
Speaker 1: very similar. Mhm yeah. I mean all these things dound great.
Speaker 1: This seems like they should be transparently good, fair things
Speaker 1: that the mainstream media would be able to like get
Speaker 1: people behind. I don't even know how you like argue
Speaker 1: against giving people a day off to vote. Well, some
Speaker 1: some people say like, well, you know, like in you
Speaker 1: in my state, we have we have more early voting
Speaker 1: days than even like blue states. So I don't this
Speaker 1: is all just a bunch of panics stuff and it's
Speaker 1: not about fairness. It's about power. And on a certain level, yeah,
Speaker 1: it is because I think the Democrats He's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: if everyone votes like and they're not being like fucked
Speaker 1: over at the poll, are prevented. Chances are we we
Speaker 1: look decent in a lot of elections. But yeah, this
Speaker 1: is this is just the gridlock that we're experiencing as
Speaker 1: we watch you know, leadership completely not fit for the
Speaker 1: task of just you know, maintaining voting rights and sort
Speaker 1: of the fruits of the labor of conspiracy theories. I
Speaker 1: would say, where you can kind of put all of
Speaker 1: this under like lack of election integrity, right, you can
Speaker 1: spread the same panic about the It's just like they
Speaker 1: just laid this really fucking scary groundwork for this kind
Speaker 1: of stuff, and I think it works on so many levels.
Speaker 1: Then being like oh oh right, because everybody thought the right,
Speaker 1: you can just kind of like put anything under an
Speaker 1: umbrella of fraud, right yeah, voter fraud, voter fraud. All right, Well,
Speaker 1: let's talk about Mr McConnell. Veris Donald Trump, because that
Speaker 1: I mean, they're not see an eyed I on stuff
Speaker 1: such as voter fraud. Mr McConnell is allowed that we
Speaker 1: had an election in where the votes were counted, and
Speaker 1: and that is I guess like probably the core kind
Speaker 1: of difference between or where the kind of riffs started
Speaker 1: between the two of them, Right, yeah, I mean it's
Speaker 1: just in general, right, like Mitch McConnell has had his
Speaker 1: grip on Senate Republicans for a while and it's something
Speaker 1: that gives his whole life meaning like you know, Trump
Speaker 1: had an agenda, but Mitch McConnell also had his like
Speaker 1: you know, conservative fantasy agenda to getting all those judges confirmed.
Speaker 1: He did a lot of work like with his view
Speaker 1: of like this is how I want to fund the
Speaker 1: country up, and I'm yeah, sure it'll help Trump on
Speaker 1: some level, but this is what I Mitch McConnell I'm
Speaker 1: looking at doing. And you know, I think with McConnell
Speaker 1: being on the hill for a long time, he didn't like,
Speaker 1: you know, when Trump would bark orders at him, he
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, maybe, like it was never always like yes, sir,
Speaker 1: Like there was never this like fealty, you know that
Speaker 1: never sense that it would be like he would. They
Speaker 1: would fall in line on certain things, other times they
Speaker 1: would be at odds. And I think that's where you'd
Speaker 1: see some conflict because I think you know, now as
Speaker 1: you look at what's happening as it relates to Trump
Speaker 1: is clearly frothing at the mouth for another stab at
Speaker 1: this thing that you know, as the momentum begins to
Speaker 1: build for Trump, we're seeing like his little attack dogs
Speaker 1: come out and try and you know, destabilized sort of
Speaker 1: what's happening because again, this is a cult, right, So
Speaker 1: Lindsey Graham has come out to just begin questioning, you know, where,
Speaker 1: where's miss McConnell's deal, Like, where who's he? Who's he for? Really?
Speaker 1: And can we support this guy? If he doesn't support Trump,
Speaker 1: I'll just let you hear it. You know, his his
Speaker 1: moment on Hannity of Senator McConnell, Um, people know how
Speaker 1: I feel. How do you feel about it? Yeah? Well,
Speaker 1: elections about the future. If you want to be a
Speaker 1: Republican leader, uh in the House or the Senate, you
Speaker 1: have to have a working relationship with President Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: He's the most consequential Republican since Ronald Reagan. It's his
Speaker 1: nomination if he wants it, and I think he'll get
Speaker 1: re elected in I like Senator McConnell. He were well
Speaker 1: with the President Trump to get a bunch of judges,
Speaker 1: including three three Supreme Court justices on the bench that
Speaker 1: got the tax cuts pass working together. But here's the question.
Speaker 1: Can Center McConnell effectively work with the leader of the
Speaker 1: Republican Party, Donald Trump. I'm not gonna vote for anybody
Speaker 1: that can't have a working relationship with President Trump to
Speaker 1: be a team to come up with an American First
Speaker 1: agenda to show the difference. All right, thank you, Lindvy,
Speaker 1: We've heard enough. So essentially what he's saying is he's
Speaker 1: he's trying to say, Mitch, your position as Senate leader
Speaker 1: minority leader is at stake. That's that's the risk here.
Speaker 1: If you don't throat the Trump boot, I don't know
Speaker 1: if I can vote. You don't know where the votes
Speaker 1: are going to come from, you know, to keep you
Speaker 1: as a leader. Um, and when is that vote happening?
Speaker 1: That would happen after the mid terms? Got it? Like yeah,
Speaker 1: So that's why they're you know, depending on where certain
Speaker 1: election results fall, you'll have the votes on leadership again
Speaker 1: and they'll take that into the next session. So I
Speaker 1: think that's this whole thing is a sort of it's
Speaker 1: all this you know, posturing about again. It's because Mitch
Speaker 1: McConnell on certain parts he will he will you know,
Speaker 1: maintain his own sense of reality that will run counter
Speaker 1: the Maga version. And I think that's what we see
Speaker 1: is like the purge happened when you speak out of
Speaker 1: turn or you acknowledge the results of the election. Who
Speaker 1: would be the new speaker? Right? Lindsey Graham I mean
Speaker 1: think about you know, you're not gonna go out there
Speaker 1: and be like, I don't know, because who's gonna I mean,
Speaker 1: he's been maybe Ted Cruz, which should be so hilarious
Speaker 1: to me. But all of the people who are like
Speaker 1: very loyal to Donald Trump, there's I mean, yeah, it
Speaker 1: could be any one of them, but it seems like
Speaker 1: Lindsey Graham may have an eye on that position. But
Speaker 1: I think at the end of the day, it'll be
Speaker 1: interesting to see what happens. Because Senate Republicans mostly follow
Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell more than they do Trump. They're not as
Speaker 1: like outwardly mag as their counterparts in the House. So
Speaker 1: that's why, like there's this little bit of a power
Speaker 1: struggle or you know, whatever it's ended up being. But
Speaker 1: I do believe everything he said. I think Trump's gonna
Speaker 1: get elected. I think he's the most consequential Republicans since
Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan. I think that probably, like anybody who tries
Speaker 1: to stand his way at this point. You know, even
Speaker 1: the McConnell was somewhat successful at like providing some friction before.
Speaker 1: I think anybody who tries to stand in his way
Speaker 1: at this point is going to get sucking swept away.
Speaker 1: You never know, maybe we get like a Space Cowboys
Speaker 1: thing where it's like the old old dudes for one
Speaker 1: last one. They're like, let's let's go against him, and
Speaker 1: maybe we get smashed out, but let's try it because
Speaker 1: we also have egos too. We also got to figure
Speaker 1: out who who Trump's vice president is going to be,
Speaker 1: because or vice presidential Canada. I guess I shouldn't fully
Speaker 1: award him the win. He's definitely he's gonna have the nomination,
Speaker 1: but like you know, he's gonna be running against Mike Pence.
Speaker 1: There was a really funny Wall Street Journal article yesterday
Speaker 1: that was like, it's Pence's nomination to lose. But you'll
Speaker 1: notice if you read that article that the person who's
Speaker 1: making that claim doing it anonymously. Nobody's no, nobody's willing
Speaker 1: to say that ship with their chest. And it was
Speaker 1: also like sourced to a friend of Pence. So yeah, well,
Speaker 1: and his former staffers. They've been probably some of the
Speaker 1: more cooperative people from the administration for the January six commission.
Speaker 1: So I don't know if because that's his only path
Speaker 1: as if Trump is like in prison basically for that's
Speaker 1: the only, And that's what I'm saying, like, because I
Speaker 1: don't I don't think every single Republican is just like
Speaker 1: given up on their own their own you know, visions
Speaker 1: and fantasies of being powerful, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of people like man fucking Trump
Speaker 1: for real, like, oh, fucking this guy's I could do
Speaker 1: way better than him. And I'm curious and you I
Speaker 1: and imagine that you won't see some version of that now.
Speaker 1: Whether they or not they're successful, I mean, that's a
Speaker 1: completely different question. But I don't I won't discount people's
Speaker 1: pursuit of power to not end up bringing them into
Speaker 1: conflict with Trump, even if they're Republicans. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: Uh And really briefly, we have an update to the
Speaker 1: story we had talked about yesterday that Prince Andrew's cases.
Speaker 1: He will face trial in Manhattan for sexually assaulting a child.
Speaker 1: So after that, the Royal family stripped him of all
Speaker 1: his I don't know, military titles, I guess, and royal charities.
Speaker 1: Stinging rebuke by the British Royal family, according to the
Speaker 1: New York Times, but the Palace said that Andrew will
Speaker 1: continue will continue not to undertake any public duties and
Speaker 1: is defending this case as a private citizen. So they
Speaker 1: are he's He's basically they're like have Adam, which is
Speaker 1: pretty wild. But you know what, like this is, like
Speaker 1: I said yesterday, this is a like this person might
Speaker 1: as well be you know who who's the is it
Speaker 1: Finneas Gauge, the guy who like got the bar through
Speaker 1: part of his brain and like scientists, Yeah, they loved
Speaker 1: studying changed completely, didn't he, Like, yeah, he changed, his
Speaker 1: personality changed because a bar went through a certain part
Speaker 1: of his brain and they were able to like understand
Speaker 1: things about how the brain operates. I think Prince Andrew's
Speaker 1: like a societal cultural version of that in that like
Speaker 1: he might as well be a like lab experiment who
Speaker 1: was like raised in a world of people who have
Speaker 1: never told him the truth or told him like to
Speaker 1: shut the funk up. He's never like experienced reality in
Speaker 1: his entire life, and now they're going to be these
Speaker 1: like sunbeams breaking into this world that he's existed in.
Speaker 1: Somebody needs to get this ship on camera. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: were talking about how it should be like a Jink
Speaker 1: style interview show just to watch sort of crumbling happen
Speaker 1: and my family, my granny and you can tell. But
Speaker 1: because I said granny and my mom both born in England.
Speaker 1: My granny's like in her late eighties, so she's like
Speaker 1: all for the Queen. It's like loves the royal family.
Speaker 1: So it's just been interesting to like watch her have
Speaker 1: to react to because it's like, you know, what you
Speaker 1: say is yeah, yeah, you know, and she's mad at
Speaker 1: Harry and Megan, you know, and she's it's just like
Speaker 1: of course, you know, and and it's it's very it's
Speaker 1: just very interesting to come from a family like when
Speaker 1: I was growing up in Diana died, I had not
Speaker 1: heard much like Diana wasn't a positive person to us,
Speaker 1: you know, because she was talking to it on Charles.
Speaker 1: So it's just this insane drama that is so fucking
Speaker 1: bizarre and team wins her all the way. Huh, well,
Speaker 1: my mom's not. My mom was raised here and knows
Speaker 1: it's all pretty ridiculous. But you know, we all she's
Speaker 1: the matriarch, so we don't talk too much ship but
Speaker 1: she uh yeah, no, she's just very very loyal. There's
Speaker 1: like a strange loyalty that is like beyond our politics.
Speaker 1: Because it's not so charged. It's just this like this
Speaker 1: very steadfast loyalty that older people have to the crown,
Speaker 1: and it's just it's just like it's not religious, it's
Speaker 1: just like discomforting. It's a very expensive vibe. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: but yeah, we gotta get some cameras in there. And
Speaker 1: just finally, like so they turned on him. Somebody needs
Speaker 1: to going and be like I can't believe you need
Speaker 1: to tell your side of the story because nobody else
Speaker 1: is going to if you don't. And I mean, like
Speaker 1: they're so perfect, and then just like pause, like they're
Speaker 1: so perfect, Like think about what's gonna happen to you
Speaker 1: now that you no longer have their protection, Like what
Speaker 1: would happen if they didn't have that protection? Andy, I
Speaker 1: can call you Andy? Right. Look, man, we all have
Speaker 1: friction with our moms. You know. I'll say you starry
Speaker 1: about my mom. Man. I remember one time she threw
Speaker 1: my PlayStation out the window because I was playing too
Speaker 1: much Final Fantasy seven and not focusing on my studies.
Speaker 1: Broke play what I'm sorry? Uh, I was playing with
Speaker 1: the Bones of Child Slaves of Africa. But chest set yes, yes, ah, yes,
Speaker 1: a PS PlayStation but like being like, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: what does your I mean, does your mom ever get
Speaker 1: under your skin? He's like, oh, You're like I can
Speaker 1: also see Elizabeth doing like the you know, Jessica Walter
Speaker 1: from Arrested Development being like I don't care for Andrew much. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I mean the stories you hear of I think
Speaker 1: this would be true of like Prince Charles as well,
Speaker 1: if he like just got left out of the family,
Speaker 1: if like one day suddenly they were just like and
Speaker 1: you're no longer the Prince was up? How's it going?
Speaker 1: How are you feeling about that? Like the stories about
Speaker 1: him that you hear that, like the off the record
Speaker 1: stories are truly incredible about Prince Charles, like thinking just
Speaker 1: that he's like one of the smartest people on the
Speaker 1: planet and like everyone's like and he like can't like
Speaker 1: really put two sentences together in a very coherent way,
Speaker 1: but like he is very confident in everything about himself
Speaker 1: and his worldview. So yeah, I just like I think
Speaker 1: it would be important to history, to the humanities, to
Speaker 1: how we understand you know, privilege and celebrity and all
Speaker 1: that ship if we could just get in there, especially
Speaker 1: like even if it's completely disconnected from the reality as
Speaker 1: we see it, like just to purely here this person
Speaker 1: articulate their perspective, worldview and philosophically how they've been moving
Speaker 1: through life. You know, yeah, exactly another point, and then
Speaker 1: leave a hot mic on him. I just watched the
Speaker 1: Janks again. Just leave a hot mic on him, and hey, man,
Speaker 1: were all these neces. You know. He's one of those
Speaker 1: people that stands in a room where there's when there's
Speaker 1: nobody there and just kind of like shuts down and
Speaker 1: stares forward and like the clock hands spin behind im
Speaker 1: and he just doesn't do anything until somebody comes in
Speaker 1: and he just reanimates a lot of footage of that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we saw what he thought was a good excuse, and
Speaker 1: it was the type of excuse that like my kids
Speaker 1: come up with on the spot when I'm like, when
Speaker 1: I come in and they've broken something like it couldn't
Speaker 1: have been me because I don't have arms, and then
Speaker 1: they hold their arms behind their back or some ship
Speaker 1: like That's that was basically couldn't be me because I
Speaker 1: can't sweat, right, provided doesn't that or the Falkland Wars
Speaker 1: Great Soldier, the Great Soldier. All right, let's take a
Speaker 1: quick break, we'll be right back, and we're back and
Speaker 1: the you know, just steady drumbeat Havannah syndrome story, Havana
Speaker 1: syndrome cases in Paris and Geneva. Secretary of Stepe Lincoln
Speaker 1: is like, we just can't figure this dang thing out.
Speaker 1: I started war. Huh, what do you guys think? Huh?
Speaker 1: Anybody just just no flow to weather balloon and see what,
Speaker 1: see what people think? Didn't go for that one either. Still,
Speaker 1: best explanation I've heard read is in that New York
Speaker 1: Times magazine article that basically just like laid it out.
Speaker 1: They were like, here are the people with expertise on
Speaker 1: these sorts of situations. They all think it's a functional disorder.
Speaker 1: Here's what a functional disorder is. They wouldn't know that
Speaker 1: they are experiencing a functional disorder. They would assume that
Speaker 1: it is like just kind of laid it out in
Speaker 1: a very straightforward way. But yeah, I think it's very
Speaker 1: you know, this reminds me a lot of COVID at
Speaker 1: this point, in the sense that like the people with
Speaker 1: medical and you know, scientific expertise on the subject matter
Speaker 1: told us what it was like that article that New
Speaker 1: York Times magazine articles from twenty nineteen, and like early
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, people told us what it was, they told
Speaker 1: us how to address it, how to fight it, but
Speaker 1: like that's been rejected as too boring, and so people
Speaker 1: are just sticking with it. Yeah, I mean it's I
Speaker 1: think exactly like uh, COVID, we're looking at the situations
Speaker 1: where to solve it. It means going against all your
Speaker 1: capitalist urges, right, you know, Like to solve COVID means
Speaker 1: like you gotta fucking start giving money out to people.
Speaker 1: You gotta start giving relief to find a way to
Speaker 1: get a hold of this thing, rather than being like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, make people work. If they have COVID,
Speaker 1: they can come in after like two days, I don't
Speaker 1: give a ship Like let's just keep We'll just burn
Speaker 1: this whole thing out. And just like with this, it
Speaker 1: seems more of a yeah, like we're trying to sort
Speaker 1: of orient this story as justification for like aggression towards
Speaker 1: some other countries, and like la, I mean they've been
Speaker 1: Havana syndrome syndrom ng the ship out of us, And
Speaker 1: it doesn't seem that people aren't as interested in like
Speaker 1: violent conflict anymore. I think more people are like, how
Speaker 1: about like fucking equity something like an equitable situation here? Ah, man,
Speaker 1: I don't know a ton about this, like what's going
Speaker 1: on with this because there are certain stories that because
Speaker 1: of the job that I do, I just I'm like,
Speaker 1: I can't handle that right now because it's too much
Speaker 1: of what I do. So yeah, I'm like scrolling through
Speaker 1: some of this stuff. But yeah, I'm kind of like
Speaker 1: not knowing enough about what's going on with this. I
Speaker 1: feel like I'm doing a bad job of of my
Speaker 1: own job here. But syndrome is, Yeah, I do know
Speaker 1: what fan of syndrome is. I'm not sure what's happening
Speaker 1: like currently right at this moment. Sure, So, I mean
Speaker 1: I think it's all part of the same thing, which,
Speaker 1: like a functional disorder is basically a stressful event or
Speaker 1: you know, illness or even injury leads to a certain
Speaker 1: pathway getting locked in neurologically into the brain and it
Speaker 1: takes on sort of a life of its own that's
Speaker 1: more of a neurological disorder than it is. It's not
Speaker 1: being caused by anything physical essentially, And so the reason
Speaker 1: that most people who are familiar with functional disorders think that,
Speaker 1: and it has a lot to do, like the current
Speaker 1: understanding of functional disorders has a lot to do with
Speaker 1: like the mass hysterias throughout history, and like the things
Speaker 1: where people would where an illness would spread even though
Speaker 1: there was no physical cause you know, right right right
Speaker 1: ye powerful, and it's like it is. So that's why
Speaker 1: so many things work like medically work is because if
Speaker 1: you know that when you have a placebo, it's like
Speaker 1: it just it is a real thing. And that's obviously
Speaker 1: what is when you're having like a mass hysteria, you're
Speaker 1: just I don't know. I mean, we don't know what
Speaker 1: the cause of it is. But even in Seattle, there's
Speaker 1: this crazy story that is so ridiculous, and it's that
Speaker 1: people started noticing chips on their windshield like rock chips,
Speaker 1: and then so many people started noticing it that it
Speaker 1: became this question of like, what is happening to our windshields?
Speaker 1: And so many people were finding these chips out of
Speaker 1: their window, and and it just turned out that it
Speaker 1: was just that people were now looking harder at their
Speaker 1: windshields and so they were seeing these things. And I
Speaker 1: think that that's like a crude example, but it's like
Speaker 1: the way we can just manifest symptoms, it's not at
Speaker 1: all abnormal. I mean we do it. We all did
Speaker 1: it in middle you know, elementary school, middle school. There's
Speaker 1: just like these these things that spread. Like there's like
Speaker 1: the story of the kids who couldn't stop dancing, right,
Speaker 1: and one of them is dancing, and that's like throughout time,
Speaker 1: like throughout history is yeah, just like this inability to
Speaker 1: stop dancing, and it's just really it's really really really weird. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I I highly Seeah, I think you would really enjoy
Speaker 1: this New York magazine. I'm going I'm going to die. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It goes into the history, like the history of this
Speaker 1: and how like it was very popular in the you know,
Speaker 1: nineteenth century. But then yeah, I think then it was
Speaker 1: called hysteria and it was tied up into all sorts
Speaker 1: of like you know, sexual politics, and and then Freudian
Speaker 1: theory came through and like kind of but now it's
Speaker 1: it really seems like it's they do kind of understand
Speaker 1: it a little bit better now and it's not that
Speaker 1: much of a mystery, and they know how to cure
Speaker 1: it if the person is just willing to address it
Speaker 1: as a functional disorder and that it has like a
Speaker 1: neurological basis. But the thing, like the reason that I
Speaker 1: think this is kind of pretty obviously or not obviously,
Speaker 1: but my assumption is that this is the explanation, is
Speaker 1: that these neurologists are saying, these people like even if
Speaker 1: so it starts with different things. Sometimes people hear a
Speaker 1: weird sound. Sometimes people just like suddenly feel very dizzy.
Speaker 1: You know, it's always a different sort of mysterious physical
Speaker 1: attack that the government is trying to blame on like
Speaker 1: a foreign spy agency. But they're saying, even if that happened,
Speaker 1: or even if like they got hit with a like
Speaker 1: bag of bricks in the head, like those that a
Speaker 1: physical injury to the brain heals after a certain amount
Speaker 1: of time, and like these like functional disorders tend to
Speaker 1: linger and sometimes get worse and like get because as
Speaker 1: they are like you know, addiction and you know, other
Speaker 1: sort of neurological disorders there they have to do with
Speaker 1: like pathways getting locked in in the brain. And so,
Speaker 1: you know, I think that's probably pretty controversial because there
Speaker 1: are a lot of people who suffer from chronic pain
Speaker 1: and chronic you know diseases that are probably told that
Speaker 1: they're not They're suffering isn't real, And like, I have
Speaker 1: absolutely no insight or knowledge about any of those disorders.
Speaker 1: I just think this one in particular, they have like
Speaker 1: looked at it from every angle and the causes, like
Speaker 1: the idea of it being a physical attack doesn't make sense,
Speaker 1: like scientifically, they can't explain it. And then there is
Speaker 1: this very good neurological explanation. So it sounds like in
Speaker 1: a really weird way, do you guys know anything about
Speaker 1: like the deal Off Pass story, like the stranded Russian
Speaker 1: hikers in the fifties, Because there's like one theory that
Speaker 1: I think is really interesting, but then it's been you know,
Speaker 1: just disputed and whatever. But it's about infrasound. And it's
Speaker 1: like that certain like vortexes that can form in like
Speaker 1: mountains can actually cause this particular you know, this particular
Speaker 1: sound that you don't perceive, and it can cause like
Speaker 1: panic attacks, and it can cause all kinds of physical
Speaker 1: somatic symptoms and can actually make you kind of go
Speaker 1: a little bit nuts, and it just like probably isn't that.
Speaker 1: But there's just so many things we don't understand too
Speaker 1: about the ways we're affected by things and it's just, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's really strange. But I've always found that or I've
Speaker 1: read theories that like a lot of hauntings throughout history
Speaker 1: are caused by infrasound and like the way that it
Speaker 1: affects our perception and like if you pass through a
Speaker 1: beam of like this infrasound, which isn't something usually that
Speaker 1: you can hear, but it's something that like affects how
Speaker 1: like everything seems to you essentially. And yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 1: to your point, Like, I mean, the news media like
Speaker 1: that this and COVID have both like just made me
Speaker 1: feel really like, I don't know, like the news media
Speaker 1: is not served by orderly communication of a clear explanation.
Speaker 1: In the case of the Havana syndrome, I think there's
Speaker 1: probably a steady pulse of energy coming from the military
Speaker 1: industrial complex like to kind of keep this in the
Speaker 1: back of the news cycle. But I also think that
Speaker 1: the media is just so served by continuing to put
Speaker 1: out versions of the story that aren't true even when
Speaker 1: there is a pretty obvious explanation to just and you know,
Speaker 1: COVID is probably the best example of that that we have.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's a bummer, But I think. But one
Speaker 1: thing that I think, because a slight positive, is that
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, as I think we kind
Speaker 1: of suspect it seems to be really aggressively being pushed
Speaker 1: by like the American like the Department of Defense or
Speaker 1: Secretary of State of being like this is like a
Speaker 1: whole is like an international conflict that's happening, and it's
Speaker 1: not quite getting that sort of traction starting like well,
Speaker 1: we need to figure this out, who's responsible, we need
Speaker 1: to we know, we need sanctions or things like that.
Speaker 1: It's not quite getting there, and maybe it will, but
Speaker 1: at the moment it doesn't seem compelling enough because I
Speaker 1: think most people like, what yeah, yeah, I don't think
Speaker 1: I don't think this story. I don't think we're through
Speaker 1: with the story unfortunately, like yeah, I means right, because
Speaker 1: it's still there, still getting updates, and yeah, they'll eventually,
Speaker 1: I think push will come to shove and we'll have
Speaker 1: to see a real I guess debate around it or
Speaker 1: just what the Pentagon says is happening and what has
Speaker 1: to be done. Yeah, so I don't know, we'll see. Well,
Speaker 1: Chelsea as always such a pleasure having on the daily
Speaker 1: so much. I appreciate. It's always great. Where can people
Speaker 1: find you and follow you? Well? Podcast is American Hysteria.
Speaker 1: You can get it probably anywhere you listen to podcasts.
Speaker 1: And then I am at Chelsea Weber Smith on Instagram,
Speaker 1: and then the show is at Mayor Hysteria on Twitter
Speaker 1: and at American Hysteria podcast on Instagram. There you go.
Speaker 1: And is there a tweet or some of the work
Speaker 1: of social media you've been enjoying the Instagram video of
Speaker 1: him nailing that? Yeah, that was um okay, So I'm
Speaker 1: bringing it back to around to the beginning here, and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead and use an culture's tweet. Um.
Speaker 1: And it's a it's an article about Trump and de
Speaker 1: Santis and it says mean girl attacks someone prettier and
Speaker 1: I enjoyed that. It's just a picture of Trump's like
Speaker 1: smug as stupid ass face, you know, like smiling like
Speaker 1: a in that Muppet way he does. And yeah, it
Speaker 1: just it was just it was fun for me, even
Speaker 1: though I hate Anculter too. Is what she got a
Speaker 1: singer in there, you know, I don't know. That's why
Speaker 1: I found this tweet is because it was like I
Speaker 1: found this video from during her like peak relevance, and
Speaker 1: then I was like, what the what's she up to?
Speaker 1: And she's just talking ship as usual. Yeah, it does
Speaker 1: like it did seem like at a certain point she
Speaker 1: was like all right, well, like I can't go along
Speaker 1: with this, Like this guy is clearly a dangerous idiot.
Speaker 1: She was one of the few people who just kept
Speaker 1: who stuck to that and just was like, all right,
Speaker 1: I guess I'm gonna disappear from public. Then I'm giving
Speaker 1: her a huge helping of the benefit of the doubt
Speaker 1: that he has in no way. Yeah, we're being real nice.
Speaker 1: I should not have read her tweet, but I did.
Speaker 1: Miles where can people find you? What is the tweet
Speaker 1: you've been enjoying? Uh? I got two tweets. The first
Speaker 1: is from Anthony olivera at me a Koopa tweeted, at
Speaker 1: least the beanie Baby was something, you know, I feel that,
Speaker 1: you know, in the era of people paying so much
Speaker 1: money for you know, these n f t s, it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, at least it was something you know you
Speaker 1: could look at shout out to tie anyway. Um, and
Speaker 1: another one, this is just great great, I love a
Speaker 1: bit of video editing. This is from Manny at Many.
Speaker 1: Fidel Uh said, this is from an interview from the
Speaker 1: Today Show that Kamala Harris did with Craig Melvin where
Speaker 1: he's asking about like the COVID strategy and many tweets.
Speaker 1: This answer from Kamala on whether we should change COVID
Speaker 1: strategy sounds like me in the tenth grade trying to
Speaker 1: bullshit my way through a class presentation. And but here's
Speaker 1: the thing. It's juxtaposed later on where he's Manny's saying,
Speaker 1: I knew it sounded familiar. So let me just play
Speaker 1: this cut. It's gonna be a side by side with
Speaker 1: her answer of like don't you think we should change course?
Speaker 1: In her fumbling alongside what this is evoking for the tweeter,
Speaker 1: it is time for us to do what we have
Speaker 1: been doing in that time is every day, if it
Speaker 1: is to be said, so would be so it is?
Speaker 1: Oh man, if it is to be said, so it is,
Speaker 1: so it is, and yeah what it is to be doing,
Speaker 1: We are as such every day adjusting the course. That
Speaker 1: is wild art imitating life or life imitating art. We
Speaker 1: don't know. It always feels like her videos like slowed
Speaker 1: down a little bit, or maybe that's just lately, I
Speaker 1: don't know. Her video seemed slower to me because you
Speaker 1: said been all that lean Jack, Wait now you seem
Speaker 1: slower too. Yeah, everything's chopped and screwed. Now. Uh, let's see.
Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien
Speaker 1: and a tweet I've been enjoying on the subject of
Speaker 1: the Royals pixel lated Boat tweeted. The way Wikipedia describes
Speaker 1: your children if you're the queen is disgusting and it's
Speaker 1: just a thing that says issue. They call they call
Speaker 1: their kids issues, which is great, I feel like. And
Speaker 1: then this issued from her do you ever think about that?
Speaker 1: You ever seen them? I feel like Prince William should
Speaker 1: cut his hair. That's my last important thing to say.
Speaker 1: Plaset on the side, buzzt on the side. Its better.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen him one, but yeah, well I agree
Speaker 1: with that, trying to grow it out. See if I'm wrong. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then uh, tweet I've been enjoying is from a
Speaker 1: nasty woman at law tweeted. The feeling affording an email
Speaker 1: you have been accused of not sending is probably the
Speaker 1: same as winning a duel. It's nothing is more satisfying
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Speaker 1: we think you might enjoy and Miles, what song do
Speaker 1: we think people might enjoy today? Oh? This is gonna
Speaker 1: be a track from bay Yuka b A I U
Speaker 1: c A and it's called mangail m A g U
Speaker 1: E I r oh. And it's like kind of like
Speaker 1: a dancy tune, but it's got to like some interesting
Speaker 1: like chant sample like over it and I kind of
Speaker 1: funk with it. It sort of starts off, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I just I just like the vocal
Speaker 1: sample on it along with the bat And if you
Speaker 1: like you know, uh, South American vibes, you'll dick this
Speaker 1: track to. So this is Monoca. Al Right, Well, that
Speaker 1: is gonna do it for this Friday. We're going to
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