Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two, twenty two,
Speaker 1: episode one of DIR Daily I Get. It's a production
Speaker 1: of I Heart Radio, and it's a podcast where we
Speaker 1: take a deep dive into America's share consciousness. It is Tuesday,
Speaker 1: February one two. You know this is normally where we
Speaker 1: say what national day it is, but it's February. We
Speaker 1: made it. We made it to February two. I think
Speaker 1: that's good enough. I'll remember to lift those up going forward.
Speaker 1: But Miles is out today, and you know I'm slacking.
Speaker 1: I'm slipping anyways. My name is Jack O'Brien. A K.
Speaker 1: That's the power of clamps. That is courtesy of Ben
Speaker 1: Burris at Ben Burris because he heard that I needed
Speaker 1: an a k A. He also heard that I went
Speaker 1: and bought clamps at home Depot for a construction project
Speaker 1: and was inordinately proud of that fact. And uh, he
Speaker 1: worked it together, and I appreciate you, Ben Burris, and
Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to be joined by a very special guest
Speaker 1: co host a producer here and I hearts l a
Speaker 1: podcast studio helping to create shows like Fake Doctor's Real
Speaker 1: Friends and welcome to our show. Recently You've heard her
Speaker 1: on pop Culture Happy Hour, read her at Vulture, the
Speaker 1: Ava Club Team, Vogue, Paste, the Havocated, all the all
Speaker 1: the ones. She is the brilliant and talented Joel mon,
Speaker 1: what's I'm going to be the show's Oprah today. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna bring all the positive light and healing energy. It's
Speaker 1: Black History Month, bitches. Yeah, I can't believe I caught
Speaker 1: you slacking the first day of Black History Month, Jack,
Speaker 1: International Freedom Day, okay, celebrates freedom from slavery. It's an
Speaker 1: important one. Fuck me. Yeah that's appropriate though, that's yeah.
Speaker 1: You know, February. We made it through January. Really February
Speaker 1: mostly a celebration of jan You weary according to me?
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, no, thank you. That is absolutely what day
Speaker 1: it is? Joel? How are you doing on this uh
Speaker 1: wonderful Tuesday? Oh man? You know, um, I'm here. I
Speaker 1: made it. I discovered an older podcast, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: talking to the kids, you know, the new the new
Speaker 1: kids in podcasting. I was like, what are you guys
Speaker 1: listening to the We're listening to old stuff. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: maybe like really early podcasting. It's this podcast from seventeen.
Speaker 1: I'm like, stop it. What are we talking about old No,
Speaker 1: it's a few years old here like an innocent I
Speaker 1: guess it's not innocence because I was like in the
Speaker 1: but if you, if you listen, I think preen it
Speaker 1: is like listening to a historical documentary. Actually was like
Speaker 1: it's ancient, Like to go back and listen to the
Speaker 1: really cocky pod Save America's leading up to the election,
Speaker 1: where they're like, all you bed atterers out there, don't worry,
Speaker 1: Trump's gonna lose. How I'd like to kick off my February,
Speaker 1: my black history mom. I definitely watched old episodes of
Speaker 1: Key and Peel where it seems like a foregone conclusion
Speaker 1: that Hillary was gonna wane, and it made me sad.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, no, we were there, we were bad,
Speaker 1: We were all there. Well, Joel, We're thrilled to be
Speaker 1: joined in our third seat by a hilarious stand up
Speaker 1: comedian who you've seen on The Late Late Show with
Speaker 1: James Gordon, among other places. You can hear him on
Speaker 1: his podcast What's It Called and on stand up albums
Speaker 1: such as the Only Man Who Has Ever Had Sex
Speaker 1: and a remix of that album called the Only Album
Speaker 1: That Has Ever Been remix. Please welcome the brilliant and
Speaker 1: talented Dave Ross. Oh my god, Hello, what an intro.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Welcome to you. So I love the Sorry,
Speaker 1: my phone just fell out of my pocket. I'm trying
Speaker 1: this new thing where I don't have the case on
Speaker 1: the outside of my phone. I just have the like
Speaker 1: scream cover and it just makes your phone so slippery. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it just falls all over the place at the map.
Speaker 1: Not know you like to live so dangerously, Jack. I
Speaker 1: thought you were just conservative dad, but here you are
Speaker 1: just be like, you know, if my phone breaks, the breaks,
Speaker 1: that's just like a conservative dead politics. But damn, I
Speaker 1: mean I do. I do get very excited about door
Speaker 1: clamps and just see clamps, limps, ball sizes. You know
Speaker 1: a lot of people think that I won't go into it.
Speaker 1: We'll do that on a future episode. I don't want
Speaker 1: to burn all my good material up top man. It
Speaker 1: is interesting to find that you, as a podcast host
Speaker 1: don't have an anxiety disorder as big as mine, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, which is what drives me to
Speaker 1: keep my case on my iPhone all the time. What
Speaker 1: I have is a d D and a daily podcast
Speaker 1: where I like find out stuff like I found out
Speaker 1: last week there's a thing called the back tap where
Speaker 1: you can like tap the back of your phone if
Speaker 1: you don't have a case on it, and it like
Speaker 1: is like a fourth hidden button on your iPhone and
Speaker 1: you can program it to do things such as open Shazam.
Speaker 1: I'm told I haven't figured that one out. Yeah what, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I haven't. I have this figured out, but and I've
Speaker 1: only used it like once. This sounds like you're trying
Speaker 1: to get me to This is some sort of like
Speaker 1: lie to get me to break my phone, right, like
Speaker 1: the pool on top of the middle school where you
Speaker 1: like trying to go up there throw it at the ground,
Speaker 1: you get money. Money just comes out. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it just becomes gold. Try it. Yeah, I'm obsessed with
Speaker 1: the premise of your podcast. What's it called is where
Speaker 1: you guys rename stuff? Right? Yes? Yes, it's uh man,
Speaker 1: you know what like you know how it is you
Speaker 1: make something you don't want to like blow smoke. I
Speaker 1: don't want to like act like I'm so great or something.
Speaker 1: But I've made a lot of stuff and that podcast
Speaker 1: is the most fun I've ever had. Uh Yeah. We
Speaker 1: just picked something either in pop culture or something in
Speaker 1: the past pop culture and come up with new names
Speaker 1: from it, like really old stuff like ancient history, yeah,
Speaker 1: like Middle Ages stuff like from two years ago, and
Speaker 1: then like uh, thousands of years ago, like seventeen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's fun. Man, I host with Caleb signing. He's a
Speaker 1: lot of fun. Also, previous guest on this show what
Speaker 1: and you guys recently did Taco Bell? Yeah, that episode
Speaker 1: came out yesterday. This is February one. Yeah, I came
Speaker 1: out yesterday. Man. Yeah, and I don't remember what we
Speaker 1: renamed it. But it's about the journey, right, Yes, there
Speaker 1: really is. I don't really even know if we pick one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not like somebody could just go in and like
Speaker 1: do a like the answers, like just a least answers.
Speaker 1: Here's what they named it. Don't worry, you don't have
Speaker 1: to listen to the show. I feel like a time
Speaker 1: or two we have a definitive like this should be
Speaker 1: the name. Like we renamed Titanic boat all caps, and
Speaker 1: that made it and made us both laughs. So we
Speaker 1: were like, all right, we're done. This is a short episode. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but yeah, the rest are left up to interpretation for sure. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the movie boat boat, Yeah the movie, No, not the boat,
Speaker 1: though naming the boat boat might have made history a
Speaker 1: little more fun. Amazing, Boat died, Boat hit Ice and
Speaker 1: everyone died. If the news were like that, it'll be
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. Boat did Ice, just saying that
Speaker 1: if James Cameron wasn't so intent on naming everything something
Speaker 1: that begins with T, yeah or A, it's a or
Speaker 1: T or the or his only options but boat, he
Speaker 1: could have created a whole franchise, which apparently loves doing
Speaker 1: based on the Avatar franchise, because it's just an Avatar
Speaker 1: to coming, isn't there yeah here Supposedly nothing is more
Speaker 1: mind blowing to me than that. That seems like the
Speaker 1: grossest missing too reportation of why a movie made money
Speaker 1: in the history. And yet Dave, I'm excited for it. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. Disney invested the entire park into Avatar,
Speaker 1: so they're definitely going to keep those movies coming back.
Speaker 1: Is that true? Did I just not get it? Like
Speaker 1: I thought that we all were like, this is bad,
Speaker 1: But the fireflies being flying around your head were cool.
Speaker 1: So the trendy technology I do think was a major
Speaker 1: factor and why people like went and saw in the
Speaker 1: first place, but it definitely has its die hard fans
Speaker 1: and they are like desperate for this second movie. And
Speaker 1: it's also there's just Cameron stands, you know, so you'll
Speaker 1: probably like all Hollywood movies that are not that great, actually,
Speaker 1: it'll still make money in the park, will still look cool,
Speaker 1: and we'll probably get another dope flying right out of it.
Speaker 1: So you know, it's like the Capitals and we're just
Speaker 1: gonna enjoy the ride. Yeah, and you know, like special
Speaker 1: effects are great and great side like good looking sci
Speaker 1: fi is great. You know. Yeah, I'm sure I'll feel
Speaker 1: the same way about the first movie. I'll love the Park.
Speaker 1: I'll love watching it, and I'll just think the plot
Speaker 1: was dumb, but I'll probably have a good time. Yeah, yeah, literally,
Speaker 1: how I felt. The fact that the ride is supposedly
Speaker 1: so good is what mostly excites me because I haven't
Speaker 1: done that. But like I don't, I don't know. He
Speaker 1: just like doesn't doesn't miss that often. He generally like
Speaker 1: creates a good time at the at the movie theaters.
Speaker 1: So I'm assuming a lot based on you know, conservative
Speaker 1: dads are out here and we're we're like Jim Jim Cameron.
Speaker 1: He you know, if he believes in it, then we
Speaker 1: do too. What's the conservative dead promise? All right, Dave,
Speaker 1: we are going to get to know you a little
Speaker 1: bit better in a moment. First, we're gonna tell our
Speaker 1: listeners a couple of the things we're talking about. We're
Speaker 1: gonna talk about cubas COVID response, their work on their
Speaker 1: home homegrown vaccines, and you know how how it compares
Speaker 1: what we got going on up here. And of course
Speaker 1: we'll talk about the big news that Rihanna and Asap
Speaker 1: Rocky are expecting the best dressed baby in the history
Speaker 1: of the species. All of that plenty more. But first, Dave,
Speaker 1: we do like to ask our guests, what is something
Speaker 1: from your search history? Literally, my last Google search was
Speaker 1: Zelda Skyward Sword ghost Ship. It was just what I
Speaker 1: just searched. And it's because I don't know if you
Speaker 1: guys are into Zelda. I have always been, and then
Speaker 1: quarantine happened, and uh and then wow, it just became
Speaker 1: everything to me. Yeah. Absolutely, And so I've played all
Speaker 1: the way through Breath of the Wild and the sequel
Speaker 1: is taken its time coming out, and so I'm playing
Speaker 1: the remake or the like the HD reboot of Skyward Sword,
Speaker 1: the old we one, which I've already played, and I
Speaker 1: couldn't but I've already played like a bunch of the
Speaker 1: most modern Zelda ones, and I couldn't remember which part
Speaker 1: of this thing I was thinking of happened in which game,
Speaker 1: and so I was literally googling to remember which game
Speaker 1: I was playing this. So, in other words, is this
Speaker 1: the one with the ghost ship? It's the one with
Speaker 1: the sandship. The ghost ship is an windwaker? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: how stupid feel Yeah yeah yeah, I like ran full
Speaker 1: speed into a wall on purpose. So how many hours
Speaker 1: did you put into Breath of the Wild because that game, well,
Speaker 1: we don't need to make fun of me. No, no,
Speaker 1: you don't need to bully me on your podcast. No no, no, no. Happily,
Speaker 1: I I feel like it's upboards of five D. I
Speaker 1: really do. I feel like because I played it and
Speaker 1: I beat it, and I also played it leisurely. When
Speaker 1: I played it the first time, I explored the whole world,
Speaker 1: I got everything. I made sure I like beat Gannon
Speaker 1: when I had half of the stuff, and then I
Speaker 1: made sure to go through all the stuff and then
Speaker 1: beat it easily. And then I sat on it for
Speaker 1: a moment, and I went back to it and played
Speaker 1: I think it's called master mode. And I also played
Speaker 1: all the DLC both of those times, and so I
Speaker 1: didn't rebeat it. Once I was playing in master mode,
Speaker 1: I was like, I had definitely played my way through it,
Speaker 1: but I tried to get I tried to be with
Speaker 1: one of those guys that got all the I forget
Speaker 1: it's been like a year or two now since I
Speaker 1: did so, I don't remember. But what are the name
Speaker 1: the corux seeds? There are nine hundred of those in
Speaker 1: the game, and I was like, man, whatever, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get all of them. There are nine hundred and I
Speaker 1: got four hundred, and then, you know, I think the
Speaker 1: pandemic became our own like Twilight Zone Moon We're like, well,
Speaker 1: there's time now I can't like all nine hundred seats,
Speaker 1: Like I will get there. Man, I was gonna finish
Speaker 1: all the video games, and then certainly did not. I
Speaker 1: think it's impressive when any like I'm the kind of
Speaker 1: person here I'll finish a book, but I won't finish
Speaker 1: a video game. You know, I'll be like I tired now.
Speaker 1: I just going to YouTube and watching cut scenes to
Speaker 1: figure out the rest of the story and move on
Speaker 1: to my life. I think it's like really impressive, and
Speaker 1: you're like, I'm gonna really like give it to the developer.
Speaker 1: Isn't like use the entire product. It's impressive. Now, I'm
Speaker 1: no gamer, but as far as I understand, there are
Speaker 1: other video games. Have you tried those days? Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: I've played many video Again, we really don't need to
Speaker 1: bully me. I'm curious, like, is there a magic that
Speaker 1: like you just don't get when you're playing a non
Speaker 1: Zelda video game. I mean, it is like Breath of
Speaker 1: the Wild. I think is is the most joy I
Speaker 1: have playing a game, at least in a long while.
Speaker 1: And yeah, there are other games I love, but it is.
Speaker 1: And I I started playing Breath of the Wild pre COVID,
Speaker 1: so I felt this way before. But it was also
Speaker 1: great to play in Quarantine because I don't really know
Speaker 1: another game that is as as much of an escape,
Speaker 1: because it's like it's an immersive old that you just
Speaker 1: run around in, you know, like Red Dead Redemption is
Speaker 1: like this too. But a big difference between Breath of
Speaker 1: the Wild and Red Dead Redemption is Red Dead Redemption
Speaker 1: is like trying to be real people and Zelda you
Speaker 1: are just there is nothing about it that echoes our world,
Speaker 1: not even from long ago. And it's also like the
Speaker 1: world and like the concept of Breath of the Wild
Speaker 1: is that it's hundreds of years after all of the
Speaker 1: other Zelda games, after Gannon has killed everyone, and that's
Speaker 1: very sad, but it also means that you're in a
Speaker 1: world with nothing in it. And uh like literally we're
Speaker 1: talking like it's silent except you hear the wind and
Speaker 1: there's like grass blowing and I would literally just run
Speaker 1: around and being like, oh, yeah, this is nice outside
Speaker 1: nature outdoors. Yeah, how do video games update? Like in
Speaker 1: I think you mentioned that like one of the games
Speaker 1: you were playing was a high deaf like update. Yeah,
Speaker 1: is because that was a real issue for some movies,
Speaker 1: like when when you would watch them n h D
Speaker 1: and suddenly it looked like a community theater like thing
Speaker 1: because you could like see the makeup in great contrast
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. Like is there an added like
Speaker 1: sort of element of enjoyment for a video game that's
Speaker 1: updated and high tough? Oh man? Absolutely. And and also
Speaker 1: to that exact point, when they don't re skin an
Speaker 1: old game for HD and you played on switch, it
Speaker 1: is so noticeable. It is. It's interesting though, because like
Speaker 1: eight bit and sixteen bit games. So one of the
Speaker 1: things on the Switch you can do is like the
Speaker 1: Nintendo Online is a monthly or yearly service you sign
Speaker 1: up for, and one of the things you get with
Speaker 1: that is online you can play any s Superintendo and
Speaker 1: most recently in sixty four games. And I think because
Speaker 1: we're just expecting to like with two D, you're not
Speaker 1: expect anything. It's just eight bit and sixteen bait graphics.
Speaker 1: So playing the any ANSD Superintendent games, it's not really noticeable.
Speaker 1: I I love it. I like sixteen bit art and
Speaker 1: most people are like, this is cool, But in sixt
Speaker 1: or four games look like shit, they just they just
Speaker 1: do Am I am I allowed to curse? Am I
Speaker 1: not supposed to curse? Yeah? You get it? Okay? Oh
Speaker 1: hey yeah fu yeah night Joel. You made a face
Speaker 1: that made me think I had done something wrong? Is why.
Speaker 1: I yeah, I got out control of the facial expressions.
Speaker 1: They just happened. I don't know what they mean, because
Speaker 1: we're like, what what what happened? I'm like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: You tell me they're like your face doing. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know what is h What is something you
Speaker 1: think is overrated? Dave Man. I thought about this a lot,
Speaker 1: and you know what I think is I've been it's
Speaker 1: been bugging me lately. Target. I think Target is overrated. Target. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right, Strap yeah, back off. Target has existed for
Speaker 1: a long time, and I was one of those Target
Speaker 1: people that was like, oh yeah, Target for so long
Speaker 1: because it was like, fuck Walmart. Walmart is the great evil.
Speaker 1: They like put all these smaller businesses out of business,
Speaker 1: and they treat people like shit, and they just are
Speaker 1: like the epitome of what capitalism is doing to all
Speaker 1: of us, right, And Target is like a better than that.
Speaker 1: It's nicer in there, their products are better, blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: But like they recently, I think what pushed me over
Speaker 1: the edges. I've been to a lot of gross targets.
Speaker 1: They're not all nice anymore. The standard of cleanliness and organization,
Speaker 1: it just doesn't exist in targets anymore. And then the
Speaker 1: fact that I've been in some Jankee targets has reminded
Speaker 1: me that it's still a huge corporation that puts small
Speaker 1: businesses out of business by nature of them existing at all.
Speaker 1: And so I like, don't you know, I uh, there's
Speaker 1: a targ there are Like, there's also a Target every
Speaker 1: three block in Los Angeles. Yes, Target owns Los Angeles. Now, yeah,
Speaker 1: they really do. And then the one Onionce shopped at
Speaker 1: one and it was over. People were like, are we
Speaker 1: all going to Target? Proudly? Let's do it? Listen it was.
Speaker 1: It was a big moment for as a Beyonce stand.
Speaker 1: I'm like, Beionce is just by herself at a Target
Speaker 1: in West Hollywood. What is happening? I agree? Like Target
Speaker 1: has been accused or well accused. I don't know if
Speaker 1: they've actually prosecuts. I'll keep it at accused, but like
Speaker 1: of a lot of wage theft, and they do the
Speaker 1: same thing that a lot of box are too. It's
Speaker 1: just like, oh things were stolen, well, we are garnishing wages,
Speaker 1: like we are taking Moody out from the store. There
Speaker 1: will be less hours work because we gotta make up
Speaker 1: that money we lost when that thing was stolen, which
Speaker 1: is completely not the employees fault. They are not even
Speaker 1: legally allowed to stop theft from happening, as it's happening.
Speaker 1: You could easily get sued if you hurt someone feeding
Speaker 1: from a store, Like you can't stop them, So what
Speaker 1: are they supposed to do? Um? Literally, I didn't even
Speaker 1: know about this, so man, oh yeah, we're telling like,
Speaker 1: if things get stolen, let that person go. We have
Speaker 1: insurance you will be liable if you harm somebody as
Speaker 1: they're trying to flee the store. So it's it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: They have more money than God, and it's sort of insane.
Speaker 1: That being said, well, it's really hard to decolonize yourself
Speaker 1: from like major corporations. I'm trying to do it with Amazon.
Speaker 1: I just got off Audible. There's I think it's called
Speaker 1: last FM, which is like they do audio books, but
Speaker 1: the money goes to a local bookstore of your choosing.
Speaker 1: How cute is that? I love audio books, but I
Speaker 1: don't have to give my money to Amazon. Great Target,
Speaker 1: the good ones, because I'm with you, all of them
Speaker 1: are great. But well, the serotonin, it everything is there.
Speaker 1: It's all cute. I'm not supposed to be buying disposable
Speaker 1: things anymore, which is a lot of Target products. You're
Speaker 1: gonna use them for maybe three years. It's not good
Speaker 1: for the environment, but that basket is so cute and
Speaker 1: the what it does, like the the way that they
Speaker 1: organize stimuli in a Target is what it is, the
Speaker 1: red dots and the red cart and yeah, and I'm
Speaker 1: with you percent too. I'm like, you know, on the
Speaker 1: one hand, I'm trying to decrease the amount of spending
Speaker 1: I do from major, major, major corporations as much as possible.
Speaker 1: But it's also like you just can't like it. Yes,
Speaker 1: and you don't. We're not rich, so you do have
Speaker 1: to make concessions here and there for what like you
Speaker 1: save money on. It's tough. It's just tough. I was
Speaker 1: just trying to get a broom delivered because I'm I'm
Speaker 1: back in the pod. I'm trying to save my outside
Speaker 1: time for things that are really important to me. And
Speaker 1: I was like, all I want is a broom. I
Speaker 1: order from Target. You know, I love their Target delivery.
Speaker 1: It comes in four hours. That's super convenient. They would
Speaker 1: deliver with the broom. I was like, Okay, no problem.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I want to do I buy
Speaker 1: a broom from an independent seller. I don't know. It
Speaker 1: became such a thing in my four was getting dirty,
Speaker 1: and I'm just ordering from Amazon. I don't know what
Speaker 1: else to do. It's it shouldn't be this much anxiety
Speaker 1: spiraling over a broom, and we just need one. So
Speaker 1: we're just gonna order from Amazon and get it done.
Speaker 1: It's hard, but yes, probably you're writing targets overrated. But
Speaker 1: they have Starbucks in them sometimes and just shop and
Speaker 1: drink your coffee like a luxurious lady. It's great. You
Speaker 1: know what's the cool thing about Target two is I
Speaker 1: and I would imagine Walmart or any like major department
Speaker 1: store will do this for you too. I like going
Speaker 1: to the book section and the music and DVD section
Speaker 1: because if you just look at it, you know what's
Speaker 1: going on in the news. You're like, okay, because I'm
Speaker 1: like pretty as much as I try to be cultured,
Speaker 1: I'm definitely pretty sheltered, and both in my bubble and
Speaker 1: the fact that I'm thirty nine, you know, I like,
Speaker 1: I'm just not like plugged into the world in the
Speaker 1: way I used to be. And if you go to
Speaker 1: the book You're like, oh, these books that are off.
Speaker 1: They like have a book from Joe Biden and a
Speaker 1: book from Mike Penn. You're like, Okay, people still listen
Speaker 1: to either of these people for some reason, right yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, but not selling that great, not selling it
Speaker 1: full price, I mean I don't buy them. Yeah yeah. Alright,
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and we'll come back and
Speaker 1: talk about what you think is under it. And we're back,
Speaker 1: and I should just say here that this episode is
Speaker 1: brought to you by Target, So no, that's not true.
Speaker 1: What is something that you think is underrated? Dave, I
Speaker 1: think the most underrated thing would be Target. Man, I
Speaker 1: love Target. Yeah, you gotta go there more? Runner up
Speaker 1: Amazon dot com. Have you heard of this? They sell
Speaker 1: books online? No what? It's owned by this uh, this
Speaker 1: astronaut he has ever wanted to described right up top
Speaker 1: as astronaut? Yeah, billionaire astronaut Jeff Bezos. A little bit
Speaker 1: of a reader? No, um. I honestly, I was actually
Speaker 1: saying before the break, how I'm like definitely not totally
Speaker 1: plugged into what the general well zeitgeist is lately. This
Speaker 1: is underrated at least in my world. And it's that
Speaker 1: show Afterlife on Netflix. I just like, no one in
Speaker 1: my world is talking about it. Comedians tend to tweet
Speaker 1: that they like, really hate the eternals all day, every
Speaker 1: day or whatever, and no one has said anything positively
Speaker 1: or negatively about this. And my girlfriend was like, you
Speaker 1: should check the show out. And I tend to not
Speaker 1: really love Ricky Gervais, but it's in its third season
Speaker 1: on Netflix and I think it's made by Channel four
Speaker 1: or something. I think it's a BBC like a UK
Speaker 1: made show. And it's incredible. It's so funny. It's so dark,
Speaker 1: I mean literally, like the premise of the show is
Speaker 1: that Ricky Gervais's wife dies and then he decides that
Speaker 1: nothing matters and so he's gonna be mean to everybody
Speaker 1: for fun, and that if that goes wrong, his backup
Speaker 1: plan is killing himself. It's like the darkest comedy I've
Speaker 1: ever seen. And uh, just in time for a world
Speaker 1: that needs to pick me up. Well, I'll give you
Speaker 1: a window into how I feel. I guess is it
Speaker 1: on HBO or Netflix. It's on Netflix. It's called Afterlife.
Speaker 1: And uh, and also like I don't really you know,
Speaker 1: I guess I'm an atheist. I don't I I don't
Speaker 1: believe in God or whatever, but I'm also not like whatever,
Speaker 1: I don't have any it doesn't affect me, So I
Speaker 1: don't really think about that at all, and I don't care.
Speaker 1: So his whole atheism thing kind of annoys me. And
Speaker 1: how it's like, wait to rick anyone who's still loud
Speaker 1: about atheism in the public eye. AM kind of like,
Speaker 1: are we not all atheists? And I don't know what's
Speaker 1: going on? What's going on? But so that's why I
Speaker 1: didn't watch it. But then it's not really a bit.
Speaker 1: It's not I don't know, he doesn't get in your face.
Speaker 1: There's like one scene in one episode where he gets
Speaker 1: a little speechy about how there's no God, and that's annoying,
Speaker 1: but the rest of it's just very funny and dark
Speaker 1: as hell. It's great. Hell, yeah, that is truly underrated.
Speaker 1: I've not heard many people be into that. I do
Speaker 1: feel like he his wave kind of crested, and then
Speaker 1: like after the last time he hosted like the Golden Globes,
Speaker 1: everyone was like, Okay, we get it, Like the Hollywood
Speaker 1: form press doesn't care that you're an atheist, bro like,
Speaker 1: and whatever he made next, nobody was going to pay
Speaker 1: attention to. So that's cool. That's a great underrated that
Speaker 1: we will have to check out. All right, Well, speaking
Speaker 1: of underrated guys. Have you have you heard of this
Speaker 1: place Cuba? Have you seen this? So while the US
Speaker 1: was like marshaling resources at the start of the COVID
Speaker 1: pandemic and talking about what needed to go where, they
Speaker 1: kept trade embargoes in place that prevented Cuba from getting
Speaker 1: any sort of medical assistance, emergency helped from the US.
Speaker 1: And yet at this point, Cuba has a ninety percent
Speaker 1: vaccination rate, near top of the world, despite the fact
Speaker 1: that you know, in a lot of ways, like the
Speaker 1: embargo really works to like keep the grocery shelves there,
Speaker 1: and it's hard to keep the lights on in Cuba,
Speaker 1: And yet they have completely nailed their COVID response, building
Speaker 1: their own vaccines, getting them distributed, and now they are
Speaker 1: in the process of starting to distribute their home grown
Speaker 1: vaccines to the global South. They're planning on distributing like
Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of them. And yeah, I don't know,
Speaker 1: It's just it's a story that like is getting some
Speaker 1: pick up, but mostly like getting amplified on Twitter. And
Speaker 1: when you go and look at like the CNBC article, uh,
Speaker 1: like the mainstream media US media article about it, like
Speaker 1: they're experts, they have to like go to like University
Speaker 1: of Nova Scotia professor and like a Glasgow professor because
Speaker 1: like American professors aren't allowed to like even like pay
Speaker 1: attention to Cuba in a positive way. And I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's an incredible underdog story. It's and in many ways
Speaker 1: speaks to what is wrong with our current you know,
Speaker 1: melding of capitalism and you know, human rights and human
Speaker 1: life to to the point that it's a fucking mess
Speaker 1: here and you don't you don't really hear about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's hard to hear about it when you're entrenched in it.
Speaker 1: I think, like the idea that work isn't the key
Speaker 1: to happiness, you know, it's such a hard concept to grasp,
Speaker 1: I think, especially when we're looking at like happiness numbers,
Speaker 1: like Oh, our happiness has to come from our work,
Speaker 1: because work is where we get our money, and in
Speaker 1: our culture, it's how we're supposed to do find ourselves.
Speaker 1: I think, particularly if you live in l A. I
Speaker 1: rarely start a conversation with like without saying what is
Speaker 1: it that you do? Because that is how I define people.
Speaker 1: I think the US is going to have to have
Speaker 1: a reckoning at some point with that sort of ideology
Speaker 1: of like, you know, the idea of like, well, what
Speaker 1: life has worth? You know. I can't remember the senator
Speaker 1: who was like they were asking him about giving money
Speaker 1: to like parents who were low income, and they're like,
Speaker 1: I think before parents have children, money is something that
Speaker 1: you like. Of course, you, dick, we had a whole
Speaker 1: ask recession, like like not more than a decade ago.
Speaker 1: Things happen. Things happen, like we have to be able
Speaker 1: to give money and support people, and I think we don't.
Speaker 1: We're not interested it in Oh thanks, Justin. That was
Speaker 1: Wisconsin Senator Ron Johnson, the dick. I just feel like
Speaker 1: we we will continue to choose to ignore anyone who
Speaker 1: lives differently than us and only sort of focus on
Speaker 1: the problems they're having as opposed to address our capitalist
Speaker 1: system until it implodes, which you know every day, sooner
Speaker 1: rather than later, right, I mean, I think it's a
Speaker 1: combination of ignoring and also you know, making sure that
Speaker 1: they are like trying to damage them in as many
Speaker 1: ways as possible. Obviously like that, but like that's been
Speaker 1: the US m O for decades and decades, and it's
Speaker 1: I don't know that there's a really funny because all
Speaker 1: of this led me to like ask the question, oh,
Speaker 1: they do those happiness polls. I remember, like during the
Speaker 1: Obama administration Ancient History hearing like podcasts that were like,
Speaker 1: it's amazing, like America doesn't do well in these happiness
Speaker 1: polls where they like pull people and ask them about
Speaker 1: just like general like life satisfaction. And I was like,
Speaker 1: I wonder where Cuba comes in. Cuba is twelfth place
Speaker 1: in the world, the US is I think five, But
Speaker 1: the first like Google result when I was like Cuba
Speaker 1: the Happy Planet Index was from the Cato Institute, which
Speaker 1: is an institute I think run by the bad guy
Speaker 1: from the Hunger Games, but it's yeah, he's the guys like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you think we want to be like one of these
Speaker 1: cesspools he calls them, and it's like Costa Rica, Vietnam interesting.
Speaker 1: A lot of countries that by definition like that have
Speaker 1: been like kind of completely sealed off from the effects
Speaker 1: of global like Western capitalism, because the US has tried
Speaker 1: to fight them and seal them off so that they
Speaker 1: can't have all the good good stuff that we get
Speaker 1: to bring to other countries. Vietnam at number two, Cuba
Speaker 1: number twelve. So I remember listening to pods at that
Speaker 1: time being like, yeah, that is like an interesting like question.
Speaker 1: And now it just seems so like the past decade
Speaker 1: has just been a one piece of evidence after another
Speaker 1: of like, oh, okay, this is very obviously like not
Speaker 1: a good system for the mental, spiritual, and physical wellness
Speaker 1: of a population like that. We've both kind of weird,
Speaker 1: sort of ground zero four, but we're also like the
Speaker 1: number one exporter of awesome, the real nightmare. It's like,
Speaker 1: instead of trying to figure out how to make it better,
Speaker 1: we're like, no, they just need to be on our level,
Speaker 1: like no happiness for you, come join us here in capitalists.
Speaker 1: And it really has been sinking in more and more
Speaker 1: exponentially more quickly as well over the past ten years,
Speaker 1: right to the point where like when I see pieces
Speaker 1: of news like this, like with Cuba and their vaccine rollout,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't even know how to talk about
Speaker 1: it anymore because it feels I feel like I'm being
Speaker 1: a baby, or like I'm sounding like a baby, because
Speaker 1: you know, like it sounds sort of to be like, well,
Speaker 1: a capitalism miss bad, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 1: and I write and it's sunk in. We just keep
Speaker 1: having evidence of them. The people that don't agree with that,
Speaker 1: the people that uh like continue to buy into it,
Speaker 1: which I'm not judge judging anybody in America anymore, by
Speaker 1: the way, I think that everyone is to a certain
Speaker 1: degree manipulated by by someone in power in this country.
Speaker 1: And it's funny. Can I, oh, man, I'm gonna like
Speaker 1: talk about my own stand up now and I'm so sorry,
Speaker 1: but I uh coming back to stand up after quarantine,
Speaker 1: and I've started opening sets by saying my politics are
Speaker 1: different now, and it's true, and uh, my politics are
Speaker 1: different in the way that I've always been liberal and
Speaker 1: now I want every single politician on earth to die
Speaker 1: and uh or in America to die. And then I
Speaker 1: talked about how I want everyone to die and it's obviously, um,
Speaker 1: you know, being crazy and exaggerating, but you would not
Speaker 1: believe how unifying it is that people were like, yeah,
Speaker 1: no matter what kind of crowd I'm in front of,
Speaker 1: there like all of them, get them, yeah, Democrats, Republicans,
Speaker 1: take them down. And but even though that's true, when
Speaker 1: that we all sort of feel this weird like happiness.
Speaker 1: Is that an all time low disparity of wealth is
Speaker 1: like off the charts, heroin addiction is going crazy in
Speaker 1: this country, and all sorts of other indicators of pain.
Speaker 1: People are like, yeah, but it's not as you know,
Speaker 1: it's America. We're good and and uh, I don't know how.
Speaker 1: I guess what I'm saying is like, even though I
Speaker 1: know that this is true, I don't know how to
Speaker 1: talk about it. How do you make it sink in?
Speaker 1: How do you and why can't we all agree to
Speaker 1: try to uh make changes? You know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: I just know you're having this conversation where it's like
Speaker 1: the current situation is hurting us, and we all know
Speaker 1: it and will acknowledge it as it's sort of just
Speaker 1: like a reality of the world, but then no one
Speaker 1: does anything about it, and you're just sort of like
Speaker 1: made fun of if you're the type of person that's
Speaker 1: like money is killing everyone and everyone shut up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think what one of the kind of
Speaker 1: biggest obstacles to fixing our system is like how deeply
Speaker 1: entrenched it is to like all the supposedly like smart people,
Speaker 1: whether they be on TV or you know, writing for newspapers,
Speaker 1: like the people who the people who make TV think
Speaker 1: are smart, like went to these Ivy League institutions that
Speaker 1: are running like how multibillion dollar like what's that word endowments. Uh,
Speaker 1: they're multibillion dollar endowments and are like just churn out
Speaker 1: like soldiers in this same thing. And they're the ones
Speaker 1: who tell us like it's not it's not a serious
Speaker 1: worldview to criticize capitalism and that, Yeah, I think that's
Speaker 1: like there's just like a bunch of big chunks of
Speaker 1: like misinformation that I think we swallowed like generations ago,
Speaker 1: and that are continuously making it so that we just
Speaker 1: like don't like when the European settlers first came to
Speaker 1: the America's like and the people who lived in America already,
Speaker 1: the indigenous Americans were like, you know, you guys seem
Speaker 1: like incredibly unhappy. They had like very detailed defined philosophical
Speaker 1: deconstructions of like Western thought and Western philosophy and materialism.
Speaker 1: And also the biggest problem that they had was that
Speaker 1: Western people who like came to the Americas would what
Speaker 1: they called ghost savage, like they like they recognize anybody
Speaker 1: who encountered that way of life, like recognized it was
Speaker 1: a better way of life, and like they had to
Speaker 1: like put a bunch of laws and rules in place
Speaker 1: to keep people from defecting from the Western way of life,
Speaker 1: which makes sense of the fact that like America goes
Speaker 1: to war with anybody, like the whole like domino thing
Speaker 1: of the Western world needs to fight communism or you know,
Speaker 1: any non capitalistic ideology. They were right, they do need
Speaker 1: to do that, because anytime people are faced with capitalism
Speaker 1: versus that, they're like, fuck, funck this thing. This makes
Speaker 1: us very unhappy and it's dehumanizing. So what live in
Speaker 1: community with folks wild like actually taking a consideration, what's
Speaker 1: happening to your neighbor? Why would you do it? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's depressing to think about and also exhausting to
Speaker 1: think about. I think if there's any sort of like
Speaker 1: hope or silver lining to this, it's that we're seeing
Speaker 1: a lot of community efforts, a lot of grassroots efforts
Speaker 1: to be like, you know what, this is our space
Speaker 1: and we're just gonna go ahead and take control of
Speaker 1: that as best we can. I think we'll probably continue
Speaker 1: to see a lot of that as the government continues
Speaker 1: to refuse to help people. I would love to see
Speaker 1: a large action, and it's hard because a lot of
Speaker 1: polices that take these large actions are much smaller and
Speaker 1: therefore not at all easy but simpler to organize those
Speaker 1: sorts of things less people just unless you have to do.
Speaker 1: But in the same way that like Iceland was like,
Speaker 1: you know, we're all just gonna sit down to our
Speaker 1: banks get their ship together. We just refused to work
Speaker 1: figure it out, but we're not doing it. Absolutely, we
Speaker 1: love to see an American effort like that and just
Speaker 1: being like we are, particularly were soon loans are considered
Speaker 1: because it impacts so many people across party lines. I
Speaker 1: it just seems to me that we could all just
Speaker 1: be like, no, we're just not going to give you
Speaker 1: our money. Yeah, figure it out. But saying that, I
Speaker 1: feel like, to Dave's like point about like that feels
Speaker 1: child like. It feels like sitting down and not doing
Speaker 1: anything until the banks like figure their ship out. Like
Speaker 1: the immediate response would be like, come on, you gotta
Speaker 1: get to work like you're an adult like type ship. Listen.
Speaker 1: This is the same kind of thing they try to
Speaker 1: tell us all the time so that we don't form action. Right,
Speaker 1: It's like this idea of like you're just gonna sit
Speaker 1: in a place where you're not wanted black people. How
Speaker 1: is that gonna We're just gonna sit here until y'all
Speaker 1: be like, we're here, do something about a move us
Speaker 1: gay people. You're Smartting the streams have naked makes no sense.
Speaker 1: It scares people. You're gonna drive people in from your gut.
Speaker 1: You just have to get used to the fact that
Speaker 1: we're here and this is what we're doing. Now, you
Speaker 1: will adjust. I think that that's like where a lot
Speaker 1: of action comes from. It's uncomfortable and people don't like it,
Speaker 1: and you're not behaving yourself. Well fuck you, you're not listening.
Speaker 1: There's we are out of options, so here deal with it.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's really sure of being like, well, now
Speaker 1: we're going to enact the same kind of harms that
Speaker 1: have been done to us, which I don't think solves anything.
Speaker 1: This is the best option. Let's just say, well, we stopped,
Speaker 1: We're stopping here. This is our line. You have to
Speaker 1: adjust to that line. Yeah, I think I think that's
Speaker 1: that's right, and I think but it is really hard
Speaker 1: to fight the internal like the idea that that's unrealistic
Speaker 1: or unserious. Sure, yeah, that's a but that's I think
Speaker 1: that's an important point that you bring out, like that.
Speaker 1: I was for a long time went along with this ship,
Speaker 1: you know, like during the Obama administration, Princess just being like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, you gotta you gotta like make the corporations
Speaker 1: happy because they're the best way to like allocate all
Speaker 1: these goods and resources, and any other solution or idea
Speaker 1: is like unrealistic. And like when I first heard about
Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders, I was like, that's just unrealistic and he's
Speaker 1: gonna like fuck things up for the rest of us basically,
Speaker 1: but by getting Trump elected. I wonder too if part
Speaker 1: of it is like a cynicism that results from things
Speaker 1: like Bernie getting shut down, you know, yeah, because I'm
Speaker 1: talking about even inside of like if you're in a
Speaker 1: room full of leftists and you say something like I
Speaker 1: don't know, capitalism miskilling us all, you know, everyone's like,
Speaker 1: uh yeah, let's go a partner with these giant corporations.
Speaker 1: So when we give money to poor people always seems
Speaker 1: to be the responsive like oh yes, But also again
Speaker 1: to both of your points, what are we gonna do?
Speaker 1: I feel like it's it's the reason I fully believe
Speaker 1: that sometimes the best community action is just information and
Speaker 1: and and truly standing your ground. It takes a lot
Speaker 1: of effort, though, Uh. Community organizing is it's such a
Speaker 1: it's so hard. It's hard to get people to convince
Speaker 1: people that it can happen, that their participation will make
Speaker 1: a difference. It's a lot of effort to especially if
Speaker 1: the people you're trying to organize are either disn't frantise,
Speaker 1: meaning they don't have a lot of access to like
Speaker 1: basic needs, or if they are living in in some
Speaker 1: level of poverty, which most of the country isn't literally
Speaker 1: have to work in order to be there. Too, is
Speaker 1: how do you convince someone to be like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: I'm just not gonna do it. I've kids, say I
Speaker 1: don't have that option. Yeah that's man, Yeah that really
Speaker 1: is it? Right? The battle is like vincing people. Because
Speaker 1: I've been thinking a lot lately, how like there are
Speaker 1: these there are these realities of America and how America
Speaker 1: works that have been there in my entire life that
Speaker 1: I've just accepted, even if I didn't like them, even
Speaker 1: ever since I was a kid, I've been like, there's
Speaker 1: this is something wrong with this and this and this
Speaker 1: and this, Like I've never thought that death was okay.
Speaker 1: Like that's the most basic example, Like the fact that
Speaker 1: included within American foreign policy is bombing other countries. I've
Speaker 1: never really thought that was good. But I've just sort
Speaker 1: of like even as a child, I knew about it,
Speaker 1: and I would be like, well, that's part of it,
Speaker 1: that's like what happens in a global world, right. And
Speaker 1: then I don't know what happened in the past couple
Speaker 1: of years, but it like really all came crumbling down
Speaker 1: in my mind where I'm in. There was some specific
Speaker 1: moment I had where I saw it on the news,
Speaker 1: like somewhere was bombed, and I was like, wait, this
Speaker 1: isn't even okay at all, Like what we have the
Speaker 1: same way about prison abolition, which were well would you
Speaker 1: do with folks, Like, well, there's obviously a sect of
Speaker 1: the population that inherently does violence or has been, you know,
Speaker 1: visited violence upon them so much that that's their natural reaction.
Speaker 1: Some people have to be separated from like the main community,
Speaker 1: but they do not have to be housed and cells
Speaker 1: and treated like animals, and they do not have to
Speaker 1: be further brutalized by a system that we control, right,
Speaker 1: And so the idea of prison abolition isn't let everyone
Speaker 1: out and be free, but it's how do we actively
Speaker 1: help individuals like live in this world. But the counter
Speaker 1: argument of that type of actually productive reform is always, well,
Speaker 1: we get rid of all the prisons, and we're all
Speaker 1: gonna get killed. And it's like, we imprisoned so many people,
Speaker 1: so many people, We have too many prisons, and then
Speaker 1: like for profit prisons which are legitimately just reflections of slavery,
Speaker 1: which to me is so terrifying in the same way
Speaker 1: that like the whole Mars Corporation being like being inducted
Speaker 1: on child slavery here in America, Like it's horrifying to think, like,
Speaker 1: because I think when you think about things from the past,
Speaker 1: you're like, how do people I would never participate in
Speaker 1: a system of slavery, because I understand how it brutalizes people.
Speaker 1: But if you have eaten Eminem's in some way, you
Speaker 1: have participated in this act. It's horrifying to think about.
Speaker 1: But I also think that, like it's just it's such
Speaker 1: a process again to to remove yourself from these systems
Speaker 1: that are so much more powerful than you are, and
Speaker 1: that's akin. But I just think community efforts are it's
Speaker 1: it's the wave of the future. It's maybe always been here,
Speaker 1: but I'm hoping, especially that more young people and even
Speaker 1: old people are, Like I'm trying to give into my
Speaker 1: parents that like prison abolition just as a possibility, just
Speaker 1: like about what thinking that I had never thought of?
Speaker 1: How like a a really powerful side effect or direct
Speaker 1: effect I would I guess I would say of community
Speaker 1: organizing and local outreach is like the battle really is
Speaker 1: people learning and believing that their situation isn't just how
Speaker 1: it is. And that's like most of what's going on
Speaker 1: right whether we're like like I was saying about just
Speaker 1: being someone who exists passively signing off on a bombing,
Speaker 1: which is like crazy to think of a fourteen year
Speaker 1: old even do it, you know what I mean. But
Speaker 1: then like you know, we all exist in a world
Speaker 1: where there are so many people without housing, and as
Speaker 1: much as you can empathize, it just is how it
Speaker 1: is and you just sort of walk by it and
Speaker 1: managing that. But Dave, I think it's like you have
Speaker 1: to see the example, like it's Jammy Latus is like
Speaker 1: whole movement to try to eradicate homelessness in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: It's truly what like has inspired me to be like, well,
Speaker 1: where can I take action? And jammy lotus is big,
Speaker 1: Hilarie Smith, it doesn't inspired me in this way. Yeah, yeah, totally.
Speaker 1: I couldn't dread more. Yeah, and I get I guess
Speaker 1: what I'm driving at is I think like I just
Speaker 1: had never thought like as a result of that, and
Speaker 1: people like starting to agree that their situation could change
Speaker 1: is what will make people then start joining a movement
Speaker 1: toward saying fun capitalism. I'd never really well, thank you.
Speaker 1: We usually have another act, but I think we solved it.
Speaker 1: You guys want to go to target ourselves with some target.
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break and we'll come
Speaker 1: back and talk about Rihanna and we're back and let's
Speaker 1: get to the real meat and potatoes. Rihanna and Asap
Speaker 1: Rocky are expecting just that's that's big. I think, I think,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know. It's surprising. I didn't even
Speaker 1: know that we're together because I don't really pay attention
Speaker 1: in the celebrities. Oh my god, Jack, it's bad a thing. Okay,
Speaker 1: listen as the soul black woman on the podcast. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna just make some space here. First of all, this
Speaker 1: is like a very contentious relationship, right not between them.
Speaker 1: We don't really know what happens in their personal lives.
Speaker 1: They're very like together with it. But from an outside
Speaker 1: looking and Rihanna was the baddest bit right, like made
Speaker 1: billions of dollars. Not on her music career, mind blowing
Speaker 1: has released an album in seven years, The Navy, that's
Speaker 1: what her standbas is called, still demanding new music. She's
Speaker 1: a businesswoman now, and I really feel like they have
Speaker 1: to move on. It's fine she hasn't. And she's recreated
Speaker 1: Lingerie and the Runway Show like they're the things that
Speaker 1: have changed them and impacted in the way that we
Speaker 1: engaged with not just our clothing but like our makeup.
Speaker 1: And the fact that she was like one of these
Speaker 1: very early adapters to be like, no, we have shades
Speaker 1: for literally everyone, and they're gonna be real specific and
Speaker 1: it's gonna be real good for your skin. It's beautiful.
Speaker 1: She has dated billion years from across the globe. Like
Speaker 1: every man wants her, every woman wants to be her.
Speaker 1: Many women want to be with her like she is
Speaker 1: the icon, and then she gets with Asap Rocky. Okay,
Speaker 1: first of all, just a beautiful human like he's so
Speaker 1: like proportions of the face like immaculate, so nice to
Speaker 1: look at. But there is a feeling and I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna say I don't know where I stand. I don't
Speaker 1: know enough about a Rocky to know, but I do
Speaker 1: know enough about the discourse. You know that some people
Speaker 1: are like, this guy is a bum? Why are you
Speaker 1: with him? Rihanna, Like, you are the icon. And I
Speaker 1: think a lot of times when we are starting to
Speaker 1: engage with particularly when women start to engage with powerful women,
Speaker 1: they start to like see their own reflection in them. Right.
Speaker 1: It's why women were very mad when Beyonce stayed with
Speaker 1: jay Z. They're like, but he hurt you, and we don't.
Speaker 1: We don't do it. We're proud independent women. That's what
Speaker 1: the whole song was about. Why are you going back
Speaker 1: with your husband who cheated on you? If and if
Speaker 1: you are that attractive and that talented and still getting
Speaker 1: cheated on, what hope is there for the rest of us.
Speaker 1: We put a lot of things on these honestly, these
Speaker 1: other human beings that should should not be there but
Speaker 1: there's this like I thought that Brianna needs to be
Speaker 1: with someone like better or more evolved, or making more
Speaker 1: money or for whatever reason. I think this baby is
Speaker 1: going to be a very interesting one because celebrity babies
Speaker 1: mean a lot to the culture. Right here, we stand Northwest.
Speaker 1: If you don't know, that's Kanye and Kim's first child.
Speaker 1: She got a lot of attitude. She was sitting in
Speaker 1: the front row of a lot of New York fashion
Speaker 1: weeks very early in her life, crying and having a
Speaker 1: fit because that's not where babies are supposed to be.
Speaker 1: But we were like, look at this child girl, Like
Speaker 1: she's her authentic self. She doesn't care that there's a
Speaker 1: bunch of wealthy, rich individuals trying to change fashion. She
Speaker 1: was supposed to go home with her teddy bear. She's tired.
Speaker 1: We like blue Ivy because she wants looked down at
Speaker 1: a balcony from us when she was three and was
Speaker 1: like these peasants, Like she didn't say that, but her
Speaker 1: face was clearly like, I don't know what these people
Speaker 1: are doing on the street. It's gross down there. Why
Speaker 1: are they not all up in high rises like me?
Speaker 1: It's confused, saying Rihanna is like a woman of like
Speaker 1: the street, and by that I mean she's Obadian. She
Speaker 1: loves street culture. She likes like all of her like
Speaker 1: staff and Silence and stuff are like just very down
Speaker 1: to earth people. Again, this is the projection that they
Speaker 1: put out there. I don't really know what's happening behind
Speaker 1: the scenes. I imagine her child is also going to
Speaker 1: be embodying a lot of those aesthetics and those ideals.
Speaker 1: Will her little baby be playing basketball on the street
Speaker 1: with other kids, you know, are gonna be roller skating around?
Speaker 1: What new trends are we going to be following? You know?
Speaker 1: Beyonce taught us with her child, like listen, you're a
Speaker 1: little black baby should have their little natural hair, and like,
Speaker 1: don't worry about what other people say about it. It's
Speaker 1: too exhausting to deal with. I'm really excited to see
Speaker 1: what happens here. I'm excited for like rihanna paternity clothes. Honestly,
Speaker 1: the feature it's unlimited, Like what this baby. I don't
Speaker 1: want to compare it to Jesus because that's a lot
Speaker 1: about a child. But I just think a lot of
Speaker 1: new comings, a lot of new things we're about to
Speaker 1: pop up. It's gonna be exciting for all of us. Wow.
Speaker 1: I mean that's that's a lot to put on a baby,
Speaker 1: But you know, Brianna has been been up to it before.
Speaker 1: So what what's the the asap Rocky? Like, do people
Speaker 1: know who asap Rocky is? He's like very good rapper
Speaker 1: and sort of a fashion icon, but has had some
Speaker 1: very problematic takes. Is that are the problematic takes like
Speaker 1: where this guy's a bomb are coming from? Yeah? Mostly
Speaker 1: because he had like a lot of colorism issues, particularly
Speaker 1: when it comes to women saying some things about darks women.
Speaker 1: Let me see if I can find the direct quotes
Speaker 1: so that we are not paraphrasing. But yes, that was
Speaker 1: the main issue again, particularly for somebody who you know,
Speaker 1: Rihanna has done a lot to say like, hey, no
Speaker 1: matter what your shade, you're gorgeous. And she's not like
Speaker 1: a light skinned woman herself, she's light. The spectrum is
Speaker 1: hard and it's really hard to talk about a light
Speaker 1: skinned woman myself. I'm trying to be very like cautious
Speaker 1: and open about it, but I do think that a
Speaker 1: lot of black women are like, why are you with
Speaker 1: some buddy who would say things like, but for real,
Speaker 1: for me, I feel like with the red list stick things,
Speaker 1: it all depends on the pair of complexion. I'm just
Speaker 1: being for real. You have to be fair skin to
Speaker 1: get away with that, which is insane. A lot of
Speaker 1: dark skin black women have really rocked the red lipstick,
Speaker 1: and it's amazing what dark stan girls have that. You know,
Speaker 1: fair sking girls can't do purple lipstick. No, that looks
Speaker 1: stupid on all girls. So basically he's left his listeners
Speaker 1: with like, black skin women can't be beautiful or can't
Speaker 1: wear like any color? Like, what was the solution to this?
Speaker 1: Why would you say something like that? Was he I
Speaker 1: don't know what his date of mind was at the time,
Speaker 1: but it's mean to say these sorts of things and
Speaker 1: also factually incorrect. So yeah, I really think that's the
Speaker 1: issue for a lot of people. It's just like, we
Speaker 1: just wanted better for you. Queen who she she dated
Speaker 1: Leonardo DiCaprio at one point, which I felt really bad
Speaker 1: for her at that point for having Leo. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know, like he was like in his middle late forties,
Speaker 1: and I had heard that I go to jump in.
Speaker 1: I don't think she actually dated him. It was. I
Speaker 1: think he was trying to get her. It's lore, but
Speaker 1: she never actually dated LeAnn Art anything, a rumor perpetuated
Speaker 1: by Haunter Harris on her newsletter. In many places, she
Speaker 1: loves the idea of the Thought Project, but it is
Speaker 1: not also perpetuated by Jack. Yeah, kind of part of
Speaker 1: my core belief system that I try and put out
Speaker 1: there that you know, puffy, middle aged white guys are
Speaker 1: worthy of Rihanna. That's always been my sta. Becca also
Speaker 1: included this quote in the chat. In response to the
Speaker 1: quote I read earlier. He said, I did not sign
Speaker 1: up to be no political activists. This was in a
Speaker 1: future with time out. I want to talk about my
Speaker 1: motherfucking lean, my best friend dying, the girls that come
Speaker 1: in and out of my life, the GIGGI fashion that
Speaker 1: I wear. My new inspirations is drugs new inspiration and wow, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm with you, Jack. I know very little about like
Speaker 1: celebrity news, so this is all news to me. What
Speaker 1: an idiot he is. I'm just learning in real time
Speaker 1: that this dude like sucks full speed. But I but
Speaker 1: also I don't know, I I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: it's not really new that powerful people data moron. I
Speaker 1: just don't know if we're used to it being a
Speaker 1: woman and I'm cut into it, like hell yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: you're like you run a fashion line, you're a superstar,
Speaker 1: and you just want to like funk this hot guy.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, do it? Who cares? This funny? When I
Speaker 1: woke up this morning, my group chat was in a tailspin.
Speaker 1: My favorite comment was bad bitch down. Um. I don't
Speaker 1: think having a baby is gonna steal any of Rihanna's
Speaker 1: style or the piercing way she could just look into
Speaker 1: somebody and like destroy them. But I do think that
Speaker 1: for a lot of folks, like like, let's take a
Speaker 1: look at the photo shoot. Okay, I'm not a New
Speaker 1: York person, so I can't give context. I have a
Speaker 1: lot of New York friends. In a specific group chat,
Speaker 1: they were upset at like just where a where they
Speaker 1: assume Rocky took her to take these pictures. Beyonce had
Speaker 1: like their beach house in Florida, ocean like gauze covered
Speaker 1: like heart shaped, beautiful bouquets. Nikki did like a whole
Speaker 1: rainbow thing, which was very her aesthetic. No a getting
Speaker 1: Rihanna is like street fashion down to earth. It makes sense.
Speaker 1: But apparently they're on like a corner in New York
Speaker 1: where there's something called dinosaur Barbecue, but apparently is the pits.
Speaker 1: It's terrible. Apparently not like not like a fashion style
Speaker 1: e area, not a place where Rihanna has really left
Speaker 1: her mark. Some conversation happening about how they couldn't go
Speaker 1: to Brooklyn because that's where jay c is there trying
Speaker 1: to be different. Like literally, every everything that goes wrong
Speaker 1: this relationship will be Astop's fault. Doesn't matter who did it.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter because the creed of Adrianna. That's so funny.
Speaker 1: That's so funny to imagine this guy just being like, hey, Rihanna,
Speaker 1: you want to go to dinosaurs? Like I guess She's like,
Speaker 1: can we post made it? Nah? I want to be
Speaker 1: there with you? Oh my god. Oh man. His body
Speaker 1: language is also just in the photos, just looks like
Speaker 1: a high school guy with like a girlfriend for the
Speaker 1: first time, like this smart girl. Is it the sweater vest? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it might be that, but it's also just like yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know, yeah, I mean more will be revealed, right,
Speaker 1: This is what I feel fortunate you you are on
Speaker 1: this beat. Very clearly, so happy to help in this
Speaker 1: time of need to really break it down for the listeners.
Speaker 1: It's the point. It was a intended, planned photo shoot
Speaker 1: where she debuted her baby bump. Is kind of here's
Speaker 1: another same thing I wanted to bring up. She did
Speaker 1: not post this on any of her social media's. It's
Speaker 1: clearly a staged photograph to some degree, like this is
Speaker 1: not the hurry, like everyone's makeup is done, like there's
Speaker 1: several different poses in this one space, but it's not
Speaker 1: on any Afrianna's accounts. She did not post it. I
Speaker 1: tried to find before we started, like where this photo
Speaker 1: originally came from. I know Paparazzo did take a photo
Speaker 1: just of her belly. It is the middle of winter,
Speaker 1: it's out like it's just a lot is happening in
Speaker 1: these photos. And I don't know who broke the news.
Speaker 1: I'm sure they sold this drop to somebody exclusively for
Speaker 1: Bougo dollars, because why would you not. I have tried
Speaker 1: this look before and it doesn't work as well on
Speaker 1: me because it's a it's a part of it's a part. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I was lacking, is the belly chance. It's
Speaker 1: it's like a winter coat, like kind of ankle length
Speaker 1: winter coat with just the top button button and then
Speaker 1: the belly coming out underneath, and it looks great. Would
Speaker 1: not look great on me, you know what it says
Speaker 1: to me, Rihanna is going to remain Rihanna. She was like, no,
Speaker 1: it's just so y'all, don't get it twisted. I'm still Rihanna.
Speaker 1: Like belly out, no bro like low rise jeans. I
Speaker 1: do not care. And again, just wonderful for all of us.
Speaker 1: I look forward to the new ay Moms give birth
Speaker 1: after she decides to do it. However she decides to
Speaker 1: do it, if you do it in a pool, so
Speaker 1: many questions. Is she gonna have the baby here would
Speaker 1: be American? Or is she gonna go back to Barbados
Speaker 1: and have the baby there? Oh my gosh, Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1: It's overwhelming. It's a lot, but it is a lot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know that. I feel like, did didn't Barbados like
Speaker 1: give her a National Day? Yeah? Yeah, so to many
Speaker 1: a national honor love a running joke where Jamaica is
Speaker 1: trying to steal her, yeah, and she claims that she
Speaker 1: claims it so hard, like that's her Google description, and
Speaker 1: she's a Barbadian singer. I do feel like that would
Speaker 1: be a good place to grow up personally, Like if
Speaker 1: it does look beautiful and your mom is the unofficial
Speaker 1: queen of and he's not getting twisted Jack Rihanna's the
Speaker 1: unofficial queen of. Wherever she is, God's going to be
Speaker 1: taken care of. I'm thinking in my own broken way
Speaker 1: where I'm like always trying to find an edge. You know,
Speaker 1: these people seem to like me. Maybe I should go
Speaker 1: over there. Well, Dave, such a pleasure having you on
Speaker 1: t d Z today. Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 1: Where can people find you and follow you? I'm at
Speaker 1: Dave to the Ross on Everything, d A v E
Speaker 1: t O t h E r O S S and
Speaker 1: my websites David the Ross dot com and yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: on Instagram, Twitter, TikTok if you want more of me,
Speaker 1: to any of those places, and please, if you if
Speaker 1: you thought I was funny, listen to my podcast is
Speaker 1: the best. That's what what's it called? Is that? Right? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's called what's it called? And we don't we don't
Speaker 1: know what it's called. There you go, yeah, and is
Speaker 1: there a tweet or some of the work of social
Speaker 1: media you've been enjoying. Oh man, uh, I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm super late in the game. I feel like this
Speaker 1: came out so long ago. But just last night I
Speaker 1: saw the video of the cat that loves watching the Grinch.
Speaker 1: There's a cat that and we're not talking like every
Speaker 1: the Grinch comes on and the cat it's all hot
Speaker 1: and bothered. The video is of the cat standing outside
Speaker 1: of its owner's room mewing at it until the owner
Speaker 1: comes in, puts on the Grinch, and then the cat
Speaker 1: sits on the couch and watches the entirety of the Grinch.
Speaker 1: And this is like a regular occurrence in this not
Speaker 1: at all unlike parenting. Yeah, Joel, wonderful having you on
Speaker 1: as always. Where can people find you and follow you?
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me back. It was a blast. Y'all
Speaker 1: find me all over the internet. It's Joel Monique, It's
Speaker 1: j L E L E M O and I Q
Speaker 1: you eat. Danielle Wiseberg tweeted carb tomato cheese, It's the
Speaker 1: best thing our species has ever done. Pizza, perfect case
Speaker 1: of dias what salsa genius, grilled cheese with catchup or
Speaker 1: tomato soup. Joyful pasta with Marinara and palm beautiful hard
Speaker 1: tomato cheese. That's where it's at, And I couldn't agree more.
Speaker 1: A blessed combination. And then one more from Underscore Pem
Speaker 1: Underscore Pem. When I was a kid, all I ever
Speaker 1: wanted to be was adults enough to have errands. I
Speaker 1: thought it was so cool and cheek to have to
Speaker 1: run around the city doing things. And I gotta say
Speaker 1: it's lived up to the hype. Is there anything better
Speaker 1: than me? Like, I have six places to go, I
Speaker 1: have money to spend, and I'm ready. I don't think
Speaker 1: so it is, and I deal and in the pandemic
Speaker 1: where I'm really missing it, cannot wait to be a
Speaker 1: back out in these streets, almost exclusively because the feeling
Speaker 1: of finishing anything beats all other feelings, right, And to
Speaker 1: finish five things in a day, even if it's just,
Speaker 1: you know, buying milk and sending a letter, Holy moly,
Speaker 1: I will rest for six days afterwards. I accomplished, spiked
Speaker 1: the milk on the grounded on the letter. You can
Speaker 1: find me on Twitter, Jack Underscore Brian a couple of
Speaker 1: tweets I've been enjoying kind of in the same vein
Speaker 1: sam at Samuel Lanier tweeted, snowstorms are a great time
Speaker 1: for men to go on little missions. And I do
Speaker 1: miss that about snowstorms. We don't have weather out here.
Speaker 1: Oh and then meth Waffles tweeted they should serve cigarettes
Speaker 1: at McDonald's, which is just true. Let's I can't believe
Speaker 1: they haven't hit on that yet. Nice great after a
Speaker 1: double double, And I mean like at some point they're
Speaker 1: going to just steer into the spiral and just be like, no,
Speaker 1: fuck it, like you you don't come to us for
Speaker 1: health food and you can see the vision. Yeah, just
Speaker 1: like I'll have a number three with a gym beam.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zigeist.
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Speaker 1: or we post our episodes and our foot no, but
Speaker 1: we link off to the information that we talked about
Speaker 1: in today's episode, as well as a song that we
Speaker 1: thank you might enjoy and super producer just I'm coming
Speaker 1: in off the top ropes. Thank you so much for
Speaker 1: the intro. Jack. Everyone up there should go listen to
Speaker 1: Serpents with feet especially this track heart Storm, that he
Speaker 1: did with one of my favorite artists in London based
Speaker 1: a singer named Now in a oh beautiful, beautiful voice.
Speaker 1: The composition that Serpent with Feet uses on all of
Speaker 1: his songs just strikes me as very innovative. Uh, evokes
Speaker 1: a lot of imagery in my head. And this track
Speaker 1: is special. It's called heart Storm. We're both Now and
Speaker 1: Serpent with Feet just really their voices elevate the production
Speaker 1: of the track. The feeling that swells in your heart,
Speaker 1: that you get, that wave of love and euphoria that
Speaker 1: you get when you are really falling in deep with someone.
Speaker 1: It's it's like the heavens opening up and showering you
Speaker 1: with the beautiful summer rain. That's exactly what this track evokes.
Speaker 1: And everyone should check it out. That Serpent with Feet
Speaker 1: featuring Now heart Storm and you can check that out
Speaker 1: in the footnotes. All right, give you to describe things more.
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