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Speaker 1: Weekly Zeitgeist. Uh. These are some of our favorite segments
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Speaker 1: the Weekly Zeitgeist. We are thrilled to be joined in
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Speaker 1: funniest podcasters doing it anywhere. You've seen her on HBO's
Speaker 1: Two Do Queens and heard her on her podcast Dork
Speaker 1: Forrest and The Jackie and Lori Show. Please welcome the brilliant,
Speaker 1: the talented Jackie Kasha. Yeah, well up, and I will
Speaker 1: not be breaking in a song by by loss their loss.
Speaker 1: Some say love now just a straight down the middle,
Speaker 1: straight just doing something out of That's it to us?
Speaker 1: From what what part of the cursed landscape God's green Earth?
Speaker 1: It is? Uh, we're talking Hollywood, Hollywood, Florida, where, weirdly enough,
Speaker 1: it looks like carrion birds are floating in the sky.
Speaker 1: I wish you, I wonder if you can see him.
Speaker 1: But it's not good. It's not good. And then there's uh,
Speaker 1: but there's a lot of music themed art. I'm surrounded
Speaker 1: and I don't know anything about me, Like I know,
Speaker 1: I listen to music. I'm not a monster, but I
Speaker 1: don't like I'm not. I haven't watched that documentary. There's
Speaker 1: a giant picture downstairs that I just tweeted. I said,
Speaker 1: I think it's a heavy metal. I know he's hugely famous.
Speaker 1: He's wearing a bandana as a hat. I don't know
Speaker 1: who he is, and everybody feel free to guess. And
Speaker 1: then in two hours, when I'm done with the zeit geist,
Speaker 1: I will post a picture and you all go, how
Speaker 1: can you not know? That? Hat? My favorite, my favorite
Speaker 1: type of genre of music them dart is things that
Speaker 1: are shaped as like musical instruments. Right, And you were
Speaker 1: sharing before recorded that you are, in fact in a
Speaker 1: hotel shape like a guitar. Yeah. And you know those
Speaker 1: uh you know when when they line up like cattle
Speaker 1: to check into a hotel, the posts are all guitars.
Speaker 1: Everything is a guitar. Yeah, like for like that kind
Speaker 1: of thing. But it's isn't that like way more? Yeah?
Speaker 1: It's so this whole thing is a footprint. It's the
Speaker 1: devil's thumb. It is sticking out of the everglades or
Speaker 1: where the hell I am like like like a giant
Speaker 1: footprint this thing when when the aliens come to be like,
Speaker 1: oh they didn't like this planet at all, Like oh
Speaker 1: so were they were trying to kill it? This is
Speaker 1: giant knife into the art. The art my room is
Speaker 1: something and it does. I'd show it to you, but
Speaker 1: of course it's a hotel artis so it's of course
Speaker 1: nailed to the wall. But it's guitar picks stuff. Yes,
Speaker 1: very cool. Nothing is more metal, nothing is more rock
Speaker 1: and roll than things shaped like guitar hotel massmade hotel art.
Speaker 1: It's like macaroni art, but with guitar. Yes, that's exactly
Speaker 1: what we're talking about. I think my lamp is a drum.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's like just gotta be so weird. You're like, like,
Speaker 1: the is it my lamps a drum? The toilet's a
Speaker 1: drum stool, Like look at one of those symbol hats
Speaker 1: instead of a fridge or whatever. Yeah, that that would
Speaker 1: be what they served the burger in is like the
Speaker 1: oh yeah, there's a simple the high hat and there's
Speaker 1: a burger on side. Star. If they aren't doing that,
Speaker 1: they're actually leaving money on the table, that's right. And
Speaker 1: I'm guessing the elevator is just rife with rock clothes. Right,
Speaker 1: there's something going on. I don't know what's happening, except
Speaker 1: for no one with masks. That's what we know. A
Speaker 1: lot of people, a lot of things not happening here
Speaker 1: in Florida. My favorite philosopher, Eric Clapton has always said,
Speaker 1: you don't need that, you don't need that fucking mask.
Speaker 1: Don't don't let the government tell you what to do.
Speaker 1: I had a moment at l a X yesterday. I
Speaker 1: tweeted about it, but it was I was in an
Speaker 1: elevator going up to the Delta skyl Club. I traveled
Speaker 1: a lot, you guys. I'm in the Deulta Sky Club.
Speaker 1: It's very glamorous anyway. It's a tiny elevator, me, two
Speaker 1: other middle aged women and an older man. Demographic just
Speaker 1: you know. The man's middle Eastern might be uh Arabic
Speaker 1: or Armenian or something. I'm Armenian, so I can almost tell.
Speaker 1: And then there's an Asian woman and another middle aged
Speaker 1: white lady, and we're all going up this elevator. We're
Speaker 1: packed like sir deans, and but we're all wearing masks.
Speaker 1: And I make the joke that I make now in
Speaker 1: a packed elevator, which is we're packed in here like
Speaker 1: it's I'm not saying it's super funny, but sometimes it'll
Speaker 1: get a laugh. And I'm a desperate, desperate comedian, so
Speaker 1: I get a laugh. And then the guy says, this
Speaker 1: is all ridiculous, you know, this is it's just a plot.
Speaker 1: This just yeah, giant silence buzzkiller on on the inside
Speaker 1: this tiny, tiny elevator. And we were all shocked, and
Speaker 1: so I just said back, you didn't want to stay
Speaker 1: living And then the doors open and he walks out
Speaker 1: and he goes. I get to say that, you know,
Speaker 1: it's freedom of speech, and I get to and I
Speaker 1: said me too, Man, look what we just did. You
Speaker 1: said something, I said something, the whole thing. And then
Speaker 1: I lived in hope that he wasn't going to the
Speaker 1: sky Club and Criss Croft. We like to ask our guests,
Speaker 1: what is something from your search history, well besides the
Speaker 1: abandoned mind exploration, which is like my main I mean, honestly,
Speaker 1: it's like become a problem. Yeah, you've been on that
Speaker 1: pretty consistently. Yeah, and I've never been in a mind,
Speaker 1: but I mean, why would you ever go into a mine.
Speaker 1: They're so dangerous and people are doing it on YouTube
Speaker 1: before you. They're loaded with false floors. It's all talking
Speaker 1: about would you go to an abandoned mind if we
Speaker 1: took you to one? Fuck? Yes, I would, And I
Speaker 1: would go in underprepared. I go on cell phone light,
Speaker 1: I go on my cell phone light. Left on your
Speaker 1: cell phone? You got flip flops on, dude, you might
Speaker 1: were covered. Oh my god. I would totally go, you know,
Speaker 1: but I won't go because you have to like, you know,
Speaker 1: trust to like go do it. I mean, I'm not
Speaker 1: really if someone took me there and like it would
Speaker 1: be one of those things where I'd have to like
Speaker 1: join a tour, you know, Za gang. If you know
Speaker 1: any abandoned minds that are safe, please hit us up.
Speaker 1: We'd love to make are happened for Chris Crofton. I
Speaker 1: just want to talk about the stuff, you know, like gobbing.
Speaker 1: Gobbing is when they store the rocks in the wall,
Speaker 1: and like what the big hollow part where they already
Speaker 1: pulled all the ore out is called a stop. And
Speaker 1: I may have all these meanings. I know everything winds
Speaker 1: is and drifts and I mean I know every word
Speaker 1: and the people in the videos. That's all they do too.
Speaker 1: I mean they think they're hot shit and you're like,
Speaker 1: that's just a word for where they got the ore. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're not fucking miners. What they love fucking saying like
Speaker 1: like beating each other to saying that's cobbing. That's cobbing. Right.
Speaker 1: You may think you're a hot shot, abandoned mine, explore
Speaker 1: YouTube star, but you ain't ship in my book. Okay,
Speaker 1: but seriously, as I'm concerned, that's black face and then
Speaker 1: you put you smudge your face with cold it looks
Speaker 1: like a coal miner and trying to act like you
Speaker 1: know about the mind. Wait, so what do they do
Speaker 1: with the rocks that they got while hollowing out the
Speaker 1: part that they stick the rocks in. I'm very confused
Speaker 1: by the they take the rocks that they've taken out
Speaker 1: of the stop, which is the part where they pulled
Speaker 1: the oar out of which you know, people enjoy saying
Speaker 1: that because they say stop. That's one of the threats
Speaker 1: these are also yeah, they yeah, wind they talk about
Speaker 1: false floors, false floors. They talk about a lot um
Speaker 1: that's just like a hazard. They're like, that's a false floor, right, there,
Speaker 1: and are those specifically designed that way, like by just
Speaker 1: mischievous miners with murder on their minds, like Donkey Kong
Speaker 1: or something. No, I don't think so it was because
Speaker 1: these lines were done before. These are like mostly like
Speaker 1: turn to the century. They didn't know about Donkey Kong.
Speaker 1: But they probably did something. They probably rolled barrels at
Speaker 1: each other and had to jump over. I mean it
Speaker 1: was boring. He's all he did was smoke. Prince Albert.
Speaker 1: I mean that's all there is in there is like
Speaker 1: Prince Albert cans and anyway, Uh, they they they take
Speaker 1: the rocks out of the stop and then they put
Speaker 1: them behind Sometimes they put them behind some timbers, like
Speaker 1: the wall. Like they basically so it's just like closer,
Speaker 1: a closer place to put the rocks. Ya. Basically they're
Speaker 1: just like trying to like figure out how to not
Speaker 1: take it to the surface, so they like to put
Speaker 1: it behind wall. But they they put up behind septembers.
Speaker 1: That's called gobbing. And then if they put it in
Speaker 1: the like in a tunnel they already went down, then
Speaker 1: they call that back filling. And they like to speculate
Speaker 1: whether it's a collapse or backfill they're always like is
Speaker 1: that a collapse or is that backfill? And if you
Speaker 1: have like a mini argument, you know. And by the way,
Speaker 1: this is not your search history. This is just welcome
Speaker 1: for first time listeners to a first drop the episode. Uh,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm all right, I'll get all right back
Speaker 1: to the subject at hand, even though the subject at
Speaker 1: hand for me is always abandoned mind explorations. And I
Speaker 1: guess I would say since I have this podcast called colbrew,
Speaker 1: got me like that if you can listen to on
Speaker 1: all the platforms catching I've been looking for videos you
Speaker 1: know there or or stories that I when I was younger,
Speaker 1: I read this story about this guy who ordered food
Speaker 1: from a UFO and I've always been looking for that story.
Speaker 1: It's like a guy, it's a chicken farmer from who
Speaker 1: said he saw a craft that had men with turtlenecks
Speaker 1: with Italian accents in it, and he and he and
Speaker 1: they offered him food and he said yes, and and
Speaker 1: then he he actually has one of the pancakes, like
Speaker 1: he kept one of them. Again, he's toocome to a
Speaker 1: lab and they said that like they just tested it quick. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they tested it in like nineteen sixty one, so I
Speaker 1: doubt they probably just like put their tongue on it,
Speaker 1: you know, and they were like they said it was
Speaker 1: mostly made of grease, which I also don't even think
Speaker 1: it's a scientific term. Right, So this is a nonfiction story. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is supposed to be a nonfiction story. And I
Speaker 1: just like on the last podcast we talked about this,
Speaker 1: but it's something I've been looking for because I couldn't
Speaker 1: find it. I think when I was younger, I bought
Speaker 1: this Reader's Digest I think it's called Strange Mysteries Book.
Speaker 1: It's like a hard hardcover book. Like anybody who grew
Speaker 1: up in the eighties or seventies, late eighties, i'd say,
Speaker 1: knows when they did those like time life series like
Speaker 1: like the World of Strange Monsters get a volume every
Speaker 1: like one month to get Bigfoot, next month, to get Yetti.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's old Golden age and um, you know,
Speaker 1: they chopped up the book into like twenty volumes, but
Speaker 1: this was like before Reader's Digest figured that out. So
Speaker 1: they put out one hardcover book with all the strange
Speaker 1: mysteries of the whole world, and it's really pretty exhaustive.
Speaker 1: It's like and his and one of the stories was
Speaker 1: this guy who ordered food from a UFO, and I
Speaker 1: just thought, I just I just it blew me away
Speaker 1: because I mean if this, first of all, if you
Speaker 1: saw UFO, would you be hungry anymore, even if you
Speaker 1: were hungry before. I mean, maybe the UFO picked him
Speaker 1: out as somebody they were just like that guy went
Speaker 1: based on error. Amazing futuristic technology. That guy could use
Speaker 1: a fucking pancake. So many great parts about the story.
Speaker 1: And he's from Kansas. So he said Italian accents, which
Speaker 1: what does that mean? That's what he calls an alien accent.
Speaker 1: He sounded like my Ter Facinelli. He's like, there was
Speaker 1: a UFO with Italians in it, you know, It's like
Speaker 1: he just means Aliens. Yeah, people, Italians and sheds and
Speaker 1: they were green, you know, typical Italians. And then I
Speaker 1: just think the idea that somehow you have the precess
Speaker 1: of mind during UFO citing to agree to eat some food.
Speaker 1: He also said he got them some water, and he
Speaker 1: said they were wearing turtlenecks. And I just liked the
Speaker 1: idea of like, what did this drunk chicken farmer actually right, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he wandered into like back in the area
Speaker 1: of a bowling alley where they set the pins and
Speaker 1: eat like a thing of yeah, and he met some
Speaker 1: like yeah, he met a couple of Italians who were
Speaker 1: like wearing turtlenecks. And then he just like he gave
Speaker 1: him some French fries and told him to go home. Uh,
Speaker 1: and he kept one of his pocket and took it
Speaker 1: to a lab. There you go. It was a frittata.
Speaker 1: They're like, I'll have some of that pancake. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: He's like it was like food truck. It was like
Speaker 1: something like that. It was like, yeah, italians wearing turtle. Next.
Speaker 1: I like if it were Aliens though, Who're like, yo,
Speaker 1: check this guy. Let's see if we can get him
Speaker 1: to eat our shipcake. Just like yes, idiot, want a problem, No,
Speaker 1: it's boring. Some pancakes call it a pancaked. He ate
Speaker 1: it later, idiot. That was mostly grease, the lowest steaks
Speaker 1: alien and I just love it. I just I've always
Speaker 1: wanted to know what that guy really saw because if
Speaker 1: you're a chicken farmer in nine, you are drunk, and
Speaker 1: is there is that has that myth like extended? Like
Speaker 1: is does he have extended fans like it has that.
Speaker 1: Can we find someone now who's like I spoke to him.
Speaker 1: I would like to have a podcast where I would
Speaker 1: like to have a podcast on my heart radio where
Speaker 1: I could do that very thing with it. And I've
Speaker 1: pitched it to you guys over and over before. You
Speaker 1: just said on the Hunt for Italians and I was like,
Speaker 1: what is this ch enophobia? I never said that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was something about payback for COLUMBI want to call
Speaker 1: the podcast Italians and turtlenext. But wait, there's more to wait,
Speaker 1: there's more. It's aliens serving pancakes. No, what do you mean?
Speaker 1: This is no money? What are you talking about? You
Speaker 1: can't monetize no more out of your mind. Give me
Speaker 1: one episode, give me the president. He'll understand, He'll he'll
Speaker 1: get it. Yeah, Joe Budden, I'll get it. What is
Speaker 1: something you think is overrated? So overrated? I was saying,
Speaker 1: I think raccoons because I was having this debate with
Speaker 1: some folks, was it yesterday or the day before, and
Speaker 1: they were trying to tell me that raccoons are cute
Speaker 1: and they're just rodents, right, the rodents with like little hands,
Speaker 1: and they're terrifying. So I think I think raccoons are overrated.
Speaker 1: It's a very new England appropriate topic. Perhaps, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Do you guys have raccoons? You must have raccoons? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I see always cruising at night, you know, like there's
Speaker 1: one in my like near my neighborhood who walks with
Speaker 1: so much confidence it's fucking scary, just like so slow
Speaker 1: likes are like almost hitting. It's always on the same
Speaker 1: street like around like later at night, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: here's that fucking punk ass raccoons raccoon whatever, the opposite
Speaker 1: of rocket raccoon, like slow slow boat raccoon. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean like I feel whenever I see videos of
Speaker 1: like people who have like two hundred pet raccoons just
Speaker 1: chill with them. Part of me is like I would
Speaker 1: like to be able to enter their world and maybe
Speaker 1: soften my stance rather than thing that tries to fight
Speaker 1: my cats. I don't I don't need I'm good. Do
Speaker 1: you have some that are working with you right now? Like,
Speaker 1: are not currently well? What's the root of this thing?
Speaker 1: What I realized also that I was I was having
Speaker 1: trouble distinguishing for some reason during this particular argument about
Speaker 1: rodents between raccoons and skunks, but I think I think
Speaker 1: I hate both equally. I'm pretty sure there's there's a
Speaker 1: skunk that kind of roams around our street. We live
Speaker 1: on the coast in Boston's near the airport on the beach. Yes,
Speaker 1: there are beaches in Massachusetts. Um, they're probably not as
Speaker 1: nice as yours. But then at night there's like raccoons
Speaker 1: like sound like little banshees basically, And the first, the
Speaker 1: first couple of times, like, I didn't know that that
Speaker 1: was a raccoon. I literally thought it was like a
Speaker 1: dying baby or I don't know it was. It was horrible.
Speaker 1: Well I drew you out. Yeah. Yeah. Also, bald raccoons
Speaker 1: are pretty scary looking. They're like little I don't know
Speaker 1: if you've seen any of these pictures, like a raccoon
Speaker 1: that has this parasite that robs it of it's hairless racks,
Speaker 1: mushroom cut. It looks like a hairless raccoon. Yeah, well
Speaker 1: it kind of looks like, uh yeah, it's skin is
Speaker 1: like helefantine and god, it's just a scared like its
Speaker 1: face is really like mean looking without the fuzzy wuzzy's
Speaker 1: kind of hiding it back there. I'm not sleeping tonight. Yeah,
Speaker 1: check it out, everybody go Baldo bald raccoon. I just
Speaker 1: like the bald slander, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: why we gotta go after the hair, right? What I mean,
Speaker 1: like we can't all help it. You know, I used
Speaker 1: to have a mushroom cut clearly right now you can
Speaker 1: see too. But all right, so you know, you know,
Speaker 1: genetics robbed me, and now some animal to be compared
Speaker 1: to a raccoon. That's what I was getting at. I'm
Speaker 1: glad you guys. That's why. Hey, guys checking, I just
Speaker 1: found a bald raccoon. I'm gonna send it the chat
Speaker 1: we pick it. I'm like, this is my Twitter avatar.
Speaker 1: What is this? I'm not trying to make a terrible job. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean they are pretty like they can be tough
Speaker 1: to because they have the opposable thumb. They can be
Speaker 1: tough to and they're so fucking smart. Apparently they're like
Speaker 1: their capacity for problem solving memory like lasts for years.
Speaker 1: So like the second they figure out how to like
Speaker 1: open some ship or navigate some kind of obstacle, that
Speaker 1: ship isn't a hard drive, and it's like now, anytime
Speaker 1: they get in that the same situation, it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: so I think that's probably why they're such a you know,
Speaker 1: nuisance to a lot of people is because of their
Speaker 1: their hands and their their memories night dreaming of this
Speaker 1: deviously intelligent bald raccoon tonight, thank you very much. In
Speaker 1: the lab, what is something you think is underrated? Okay, everything, bagel, seasoning, everything,
Speaker 1: Trader Joe's right now. I love it, dude. I put
Speaker 1: it on so much stuff. I mean, I'll make you know,
Speaker 1: I'll make my girlfriend like avocado toast and I started
Speaker 1: throwing that on there her mind. She was like, what
Speaker 1: the hell is this? And I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: this is the person dating the jew You get so
Speaker 1: many things I'll open your eyes to culturally, you know.
Speaker 1: She's like, what, what, how how about some more of
Speaker 1: that white fish Sally? Yeah, I love that, dude. I
Speaker 1: shot the opening and one of my specials at Barney
Speaker 1: Green Grass. I don't. I don't mess around. I did.
Speaker 1: I didn't get in the opening at Barney legendary New
Speaker 1: York Jewish type deli food with great great spot Upper
Speaker 1: West Side. Yeah, I was just I walked by there.
Speaker 1: It was too crowded, So I went to Sa Bagel
Speaker 1: and then get to a trip at Russ and Daughters.
Speaker 1: You know you're gonna do that, But I've got a
Speaker 1: trader Joel's, right, did you are you getting to that
Speaker 1: trader Joe's because I feel like that's where I started
Speaker 1: to see a lot more everything bagel type of ship.
Speaker 1: But they have everything bagel potato chips that I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: let me, let me funk around really quick, and it
Speaker 1: was It wasn't bad. I'm not gonna lie. It was
Speaker 1: a little too salty for my taste, but having that
Speaker 1: flavor on the chip was a bit of an experience.
Speaker 1: They're getting a little reckless with the chip flavors. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I see dill pickle and I'm like, I've got to
Speaker 1: be hammered to get dill pickle potato chips, you know, Like,
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's fine, but like even like pepper and cheeney,
Speaker 1: I'm like, what are we doing here, guys, Like, let's
Speaker 1: just have some chips. Let's just cremon, onion, barbecue, salt
Speaker 1: and vinegar. We're doing the classics and classics for It's
Speaker 1: like when you go to a bar and they have
Speaker 1: these crazy cocktails and you're like, you're getting the cocktail.
Speaker 1: You're gonna get a classic cocktail, Let's be real, right,
Speaker 1: unless it's like something where it's like, oh, we use
Speaker 1: passion fruit foam on the out, so I'm like, I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: it's twenty three bucks. So if you're gonna make like,
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna get some like cocktail, I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: like a Manhattan and a growny. I'm just getting something classic.
Speaker 1: Unless they're like something you know you gotta have this right.
Speaker 1: It kills me. At some of these comedy clubs, I'm like,
Speaker 1: can I get in a groaning? They're like, oh, we
Speaker 1: don't have the ingredients. I'm like, well, I see, you
Speaker 1: know how to make a yellow gummy bear over here,
Speaker 1: you can't make it a groaning, right right? Classics, the
Speaker 1: yellow gummy Bear, the Manhattan, you know, all the first
Speaker 1: in all of the bartending arts. Yeah, alright, Sam, let's
Speaker 1: take a quick break. We'll be right back to talk
Speaker 1: about some news, and we're back. And the hottest new
Speaker 1: souvenir from the year is the mouse Mover, which is
Speaker 1: how you trick your boss into thinking you're still at
Speaker 1: your desk because that is important to them apparently. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that's uh, we've seen it. The this like
Speaker 1: obsession has gone from you know, well like bosses now
Speaker 1: in the work from home era seem to be more
Speaker 1: focused on things like if you're present rather than if
Speaker 1: you're productive, because we've seen all this stuff, Like every
Speaker 1: single study that's come out of like the lockdowns and
Speaker 1: things have shown for people who have been able to
Speaker 1: work from home, you know, despite the stresses that it
Speaker 1: caused from if you're going from just a brutally productivity
Speaker 1: centric analysis, productivity has gone up and output has increased.
Speaker 1: Yet there's still this like just fucking evil like insistence
Speaker 1: on being like, well, what's going on you do when
Speaker 1: you're sleeping at at noon for twenty minutes even though
Speaker 1: you're also teaching kids like algebra in the other rooms
Speaker 1: caused so much stress. And I think that's why we've
Speaker 1: seen the rise of what men you call boss wear,
Speaker 1: which are just different programs that are intended to track
Speaker 1: worker activity. And it's just gone up more and more
Speaker 1: and more, and you see it in things like you
Speaker 1: know a lot of people have found that they'll use
Speaker 1: you know, apps like teams or Slack and on some
Speaker 1: instances based on if you have like a computer owned
Speaker 1: by a company, they can put software in there that
Speaker 1: says like, oh, if your mouse isn't moving for like
Speaker 1: a minute, then it's gonna set your status to away
Speaker 1: and give you a little electrical charge. And the thing
Speaker 1: that they implanted in your neck, right, yeah, exactly to
Speaker 1: the countdown. It's like, yeah, it's like the fucking computer
Speaker 1: and loss that you have to punch the numbers in.
Speaker 1: But yeah, and then so this is like obviously led
Speaker 1: to you know, bosses sending like humiliating emails or phone
Speaker 1: calls or they're just questioning someone's like they're like, what
Speaker 1: are you doing? It doesn't even seem like you're doing anything.
Speaker 1: Do you even need a job? That kind of stuff,
Speaker 1: And yeah, we're finding out that now workers are having
Speaker 1: to find a way to push back against this nonsense
Speaker 1: in the form of like you're saying, a mouse mover
Speaker 1: a simple device, a simple device that pretends that moves
Speaker 1: your mouse. As you try to eat lunch, You're like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go get another cup of coffee, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go have a cigarette. I'm to you know, whatever you're
Speaker 1: going to do. Oh what a budget of assholes, So
Speaker 1: they have to we have to create these things because
Speaker 1: product like you said productivity, sup. Yeah, that's not a
Speaker 1: that's that hasn't been an issue. And I think like
Speaker 1: you're saying, even which is odd enough, because if you're
Speaker 1: in an office, many people will just smoke cigarettes to
Speaker 1: give themselves a reason to take a break, and you
Speaker 1: don't see people being like where what are you smoking cigarettes?
Speaker 1: It's just accepted because then there's like the idea, it's like, well,
Speaker 1: you came to the factory today, so that at least
Speaker 1: I know if you're not if you're here, then you
Speaker 1: can't be helping your family do something navigate us incredibly
Speaker 1: stressful time. Yeah, and it's you know that that's sort
Speaker 1: of same. I think that same perspective hasn't been adopted.
Speaker 1: But these devices, like they run the fucking gamut, which
Speaker 1: is amazing because in the beginning, there was a company
Speaker 1: that started in February, like a mouse mover company, and
Speaker 1: they just did it because they're like, we know people
Speaker 1: use it for like if you're if you're looking at
Speaker 1: many different screens for like data analysis or things like that.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you just want something like that. So the computer
Speaker 1: doesn't like it might not have the function to know
Speaker 1: that you don't want it to go to sleep or something,
Speaker 1: so you use a mouse mover for that. But then
Speaker 1: this company just saw just exponential uptick in sales since
Speaker 1: like April when they realize, oh my god, I'm being
Speaker 1: watched in my own home and the only way to
Speaker 1: combat this is if my mouse is moving. So they
Speaker 1: have like mechanical ones that you just rest your mouths
Speaker 1: on and it just kind of goes like left or
Speaker 1: right to just kind of keep it moving. They have
Speaker 1: other like USB devices you can plug in that will
Speaker 1: just tell your computer that there's like a mouse being moved,
Speaker 1: so it will don't matter what. You can just do
Speaker 1: whatever you need to, but the observing eyes that be
Speaker 1: won't know. And some they're also just YouTube videos too.
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that have like these moving graphics, and
Speaker 1: you have like if you have an optical mouse, it
Speaker 1: will actually like create like it'll create movement in the
Speaker 1: cursor again, so you can just run a video and
Speaker 1: people are going to think your work, but that you're
Speaker 1: doing something, and what you're really doing is playing Lord's
Speaker 1: Water Deep on Steam. But I also need to move
Speaker 1: my master that, but wow, what why I've never understood.
Speaker 1: I mean, granted I do stand up, so there's not
Speaker 1: a lot of oversight, right, And but I never understood,
Speaker 1: you know when I when I had day jobs, why
Speaker 1: there was so many ship bags? Right? Like? Why what
Speaker 1: do you care? Am I doing the job? Is? Like
Speaker 1: I remember I used this stuff envelopes for some gig.
Speaker 1: I worked at a nonprofit and this this my boss
Speaker 1: told me how to stuff envelopes and addressing the bolts
Speaker 1: for this mailing. And she explained it took fifteen sixteen
Speaker 1: minutes to explain it, and then she said, you do
Speaker 1: you understand? And I said, mostly, I'm gonna probably have
Speaker 1: to ask you two more times as I do this
Speaker 1: how to do it again? And she was like what
Speaker 1: And I said, yeah, I don't care. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't get a lot of my self esteem whether I
Speaker 1: whether I got this right the first time. I just
Speaker 1: want to do it how you want it done, because
Speaker 1: I don't like I would be really good as like
Speaker 1: a prep cook, because I don't care how I cut
Speaker 1: the vegetables, but the chef does. And most people go
Speaker 1: to work, they don't want to take it home with them.
Speaker 1: And we're not all inventors, right, So yeah, I'll do
Speaker 1: what however you want. But then when it's done, don't
Speaker 1: stare at me. I'm gonna do it and then get
Speaker 1: the hell out of my way. Yeah, there's we've talked before,
Speaker 1: the Theory of Bullshit Jobs essay and then book written
Speaker 1: by David Graber that argues that like half of the
Speaker 1: jobs of societal work is like pointless and like just
Speaker 1: there to give people give like bosses, people to boss around.
Speaker 1: And I feel like this is a huge check mark
Speaker 1: and the like evidence for that because productivity, like you said,
Speaker 1: is up. So that's not what they're That's not what
Speaker 1: they're wearing out. They're worrying about whether you are being
Speaker 1: like whether the quality of your life is being diminished
Speaker 1: by they're like talking about power and control. It's not
Speaker 1: anything about productivity and effectiveness. Yeah, or for people that
Speaker 1: precontextualize what it means to work to right, because if
Speaker 1: you're like, wait, well I'm working, but I'm also doing
Speaker 1: this other stuff, why don't I do more of that?
Speaker 1: You can't be feeling that comfortable Because this whole financial
Speaker 1: system is based on the threat of homelessness and starvation
Speaker 1: to coerce you and to keep working, so I don't
Speaker 1: start loosening your definitions of what it means to survive.
Speaker 1: We can't have that, so you better have that. Fucking
Speaker 1: mouse moving is I don't know, very low stakes, but
Speaker 1: it's it's one of these things that's been across the
Speaker 1: board just been denounced, you know. The Electronic Frontier Foundation
Speaker 1: calls BOSS where, you know, invasive, unnecessary, unethical. The Center
Speaker 1: for Democracy and Technology called it i as being quote
Speaker 1: actively detriment told to employees health and demanding that like
Speaker 1: OSHA actually updates its policies so that like on worker
Speaker 1: safety to also include like at home workers just for
Speaker 1: like this kind of weird you know patrol, like productivity
Speaker 1: patrol that's like unnecessary, right right, because it's not like
Speaker 1: we're not all accepting that, you know, like, there's a
Speaker 1: TV in this room this side been I don't know
Speaker 1: who else is watching, but I've sort of accepted that
Speaker 1: I'm probably never alone, and uh, and there's cameras in
Speaker 1: this casino, in this hotel, and but there's absolutely no
Speaker 1: reason for me that for anyone to check in and go, hey,
Speaker 1: by the way, I am watching you. I'm just like
Speaker 1: the whe level hum of me being watched at all
Speaker 1: times is already there. You don't need to poke. Please
Speaker 1: don't prod that open would opticon Israel? Who? All right,
Speaker 1: let's talk about Kamala hair. Politico has a Yes, this
Speaker 1: is like a hit piece or something. They got her
Speaker 1: ass done. Politico doing the fucking lord's work of meaningless
Speaker 1: nonsense journalism. I just want to read this headline of
Speaker 1: this article that's that came out earlier this week. It said,
Speaker 1: Kamala Harris is bluetooth phobic. Um, what what does that
Speaker 1: even mean? Like she discriminates against bluetooth users? She has
Speaker 1: somebody with a bluetooth right, does she have like an
Speaker 1: exclusive Beats by dre deal that doesn't allow her to
Speaker 1: use non wired headphones? Like? What is happening exactly? And
Speaker 1: this is what they say quote. While a growing number
Speaker 1: of consumers are going wireless, the vice president is sticking
Speaker 1: with the classics. She has long felt that bluetooth headphones
Speaker 1: are security risk. As a result, Harris insists on using
Speaker 1: wired headphones. Three former campaign aids told what swing playbook?
Speaker 1: Okay not? I mean like, wow, well let's go on,
Speaker 1: let me let me They go, okay, that okay, political thinking,
Speaker 1: All right, that wasn't enough for you allow us to
Speaker 1: maybe expand on this. Former aids say that the vice
Speaker 1: president has long been careful about security and technology, with
Speaker 1: some describing it as prudent and others suggesting it is
Speaker 1: a bit paranoid. It's a recurring theme, and they talked
Speaker 1: about how when she was oh this is another one,
Speaker 1: and another former AID when she was attorney general in California,
Speaker 1: said that when a person arrived for a meeting, staff
Speaker 1: were instructed not to allow them to wait in Harris's
Speaker 1: office alone. What the fun is? She's the new Richard Nixon. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not the biggest Kamala Harris fan, as most listeners
Speaker 1: of this show, no, but like, what the funk is
Speaker 1: this exactly? What is the point? I'm really curious what
Speaker 1: the fucking quote unquote journalists who did this? What what
Speaker 1: was this piece? Adding? What did we need to know
Speaker 1: about this? Because they made they like did a collage
Speaker 1: of all these photos of her wearing like wired Apple headphones,
Speaker 1: and they're like look at her, dude, like's she got
Speaker 1: these like wired headphones on? And I think part of
Speaker 1: it is probably some anti black woman bias and they're
Speaker 1: just finding some ship to just be like, fucking man,
Speaker 1: she doesn't she hates bluetooth. I guess that's something we
Speaker 1: can say to try and make her look different from
Speaker 1: the mainstream. But I'm not even, like, I don't even
Speaker 1: This is just so weird because if that's who gives
Speaker 1: a ship about what her like her priorities are around
Speaker 1: like ops sack like operational security. If she if she
Speaker 1: thinks bluetooth she's not comfortable with, Like, who gives a fuck?
Speaker 1: Like I just helped me? Somebody also understanding. Yeah, they're
Speaker 1: they're using quotes from like former aids and like staffers,
Speaker 1: like just ask like a security expert, is this like
Speaker 1: over over the type? They don't because it is. You can, yeah,
Speaker 1: you can, like, yeah, has anyone met like an older
Speaker 1: person or like even an older person of color? Yeah? People,
Speaker 1: you know, I have aunts and uncles who have thoughts
Speaker 1: around opts, their own operations and security that I don't like.
Speaker 1: I don't like that in my car. I can't use
Speaker 1: that physical key on that because you don't know what's
Speaker 1: going to happen. Like I this seems very normal to me,
Speaker 1: But again, this is just like part of I don't
Speaker 1: know clickbait failure over at Politico. I feel like after
Speaker 1: a former Secretary Terry of States private email server was
Speaker 1: hacked at a basement, maybe we should be a little
Speaker 1: bit more paranoid than not, Like maybe maybe it's okay
Speaker 1: to use headphones, it's fine. Also, it's like this, this
Speaker 1: feels like it's either stupid or it's like weirdly nefarious
Speaker 1: because it gets to paint her because everyone knows that
Speaker 1: this is stupid. So it's also like, oh, we're attacking
Speaker 1: her unfairly for no reason. And if we're attacking her
Speaker 1: unfairly for this, then maybe real things that she is
Speaker 1: being fairly attacked for we're also attacking her unfairly for
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it gives her weird
Speaker 1: cover for like, oh, everyone's just being you know, sexist
Speaker 1: and racist. We're seeing and they did it for the
Speaker 1: bluetooth stuff that they're also doing it for you know, X,
Speaker 1: Y and Z or like immigration and stuff whatever exactly.
Speaker 1: So it's like it's there's, it's yeah, there's it's it's
Speaker 1: lose lose all around. It's like it's almost like clickbait
Speaker 1: journalism is destroying everything. Yeah, well meanwhile, like we're looking
Speaker 1: at you know, just the most some of them, like
Speaker 1: you know not some like the most aggressive moves towards
Speaker 1: voter suppression we've seen in our lived memory. And meanwhile,
Speaker 1: we're devoting inches and coverage to like this bluetooth thing
Speaker 1: because I mean, this is something we've talked about or
Speaker 1: just mentioned touched on too. Is just that this is
Speaker 1: just all like the media is huge hand in allowing
Speaker 1: all of this ship to just crumble by the wayside,
Speaker 1: because that has an inability to actually say, like, hey man,
Speaker 1: the country is really fucked up right now, and like
Speaker 1: ship's gonna get fucking terrible if we don't get ahold
Speaker 1: of like just just the most basic voting rights to
Speaker 1: start off with. But instead we're talking about sucking you know,
Speaker 1: why didn't you have air pods? Yeah? And I think
Speaker 1: people like see this and it tunes and it's frustrating
Speaker 1: because it tunes people out from like paying attention to
Speaker 1: the news more and more because you're like, I'm not
Speaker 1: even seeing anything real and this is what it is.
Speaker 1: It's like I saw there's this morning that I mean,
Speaker 1: it's unreally did this specifically, but I saw this morning
Speaker 1: that it was like a fightsor CEO was like, I
Speaker 1: think we're going to need the fourth shot even faster
Speaker 1: than the third one. And I was like, can we
Speaker 1: just like not talk to these people? Could you just
Speaker 1: shut the Like I just I hate the news and
Speaker 1: it's so frustrating because it also gives like people that
Speaker 1: say all news is fake news like even more and
Speaker 1: more amos. I'm just like, yeah, I also I get
Speaker 1: where you're coming from with half of this ship, because
Speaker 1: this is this is a bullshit story. Get out of way.
Speaker 1: All news is fucking coward news. No one wants to
Speaker 1: fucking say the thing past don't go like rather than
Speaker 1: saying like, I don't know this fucking pharma griffter says
Speaker 1: we should give them more money. Yeah, like that's that's
Speaker 1: just treat that quote like that. Yeah, exactly. Have a
Speaker 1: more holistic, you know, reporting around saying things like this
Speaker 1: is how much uh Viser and Maderna have made, this
Speaker 1: is how much Viser stands to make from their therapeutics
Speaker 1: that they're developing. There's so many other things that you
Speaker 1: can be, like telling people real things while also giving
Speaker 1: them an actual accounting of what the stakes are, what
Speaker 1: the dynamics are around the story because all they do
Speaker 1: is just give you this ship in a vacuum, no context,
Speaker 1: and if you're not paying attention, you're gonna think nothing's wrong,
Speaker 1: nothing's you know, gonna ry at all. Yeah, the worst
Speaker 1: thing is that Kamala doesn't use headphones. That are you know,
Speaker 1: bluetooth that are the worst thing. Yeah, the worst thing
Speaker 1: is there are people dying for their first shot of
Speaker 1: a vaccine. But we've we've entrusted this with just greedy,
Speaker 1: fucking goblins and just only focusing like in America, maybe
Speaker 1: you should get that third or four. Like I think
Speaker 1: there's I truly think there's a direct line between like
Speaker 1: ship like this and the vaccine, and like vaccine hasitency
Speaker 1: because like the mainstream media is fully bought into like
Speaker 1: the whole like corporate neoliberal like ideal that is killing people,
Speaker 1: that like is making people, like making us the loneliest
Speaker 1: we've ever been. Like it that has completely taken over
Speaker 1: how we communicate with one another and like turned it
Speaker 1: into you know, the most basic part of being a
Speaker 1: human being is like interacting with other human beings, and
Speaker 1: we've turned that into like a algorithmically like monitored and
Speaker 1: monetized and like manipulated thing, like so that people are
Speaker 1: going to react negatively to that, and the mainstream media
Speaker 1: just has a complete like inability to cope with that.
Speaker 1: And there is already a reactionary kind of option on
Speaker 1: the right. And so that's why like things are moving
Speaker 1: so fucking out of control in that direction, and like
Speaker 1: the left hasn't really figured out it's alternative strategy, right, Well,
Speaker 1: I mean I think that's why you need more independent
Speaker 1: media and also just like for people to demand that
Speaker 1: these people actually say something that is counter to what
Speaker 1: their corporate benefactors dictate to them. Like it's that you
Speaker 1: can't it's like because you you already know, Like we
Speaker 1: already know that if on MSNBC they said, we need
Speaker 1: to actually be breaking down how much money is being
Speaker 1: made and like also put people in the front of
Speaker 1: their mind because the most important thing about getting through
Speaker 1: this pandemic globally is to have as many people inoculated
Speaker 1: as possible. But if we're not hammering home that that's
Speaker 1: a problem and that there's also there's corporate greed national
Speaker 1: there's like this weird nationalist stick fucking greed that's happening
Speaker 1: with who's being shared with what if that's not being
Speaker 1: talked about there's no context, And yeah, it's just why
Speaker 1: why fucking pay attention because it's just gonna sound like
Speaker 1: a bunch of you know, chaos constantly. Yeah, yeah, but
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think that at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, like I think you'd hope that more and
Speaker 1: more people rather than being like, man, the fucking news
Speaker 1: is fake. It's not that it's fake, it's that it's
Speaker 1: being presented to you by people who don't even live
Speaker 1: on the same fucking planet as you. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like we're getting the weather on Mars and
Speaker 1: being told that that's the that's the temperature on Earth.
Speaker 1: But no, these people live in a completely different reality,
Speaker 1: completely divorced from the existential threats that most working people
Speaker 1: or marginalized people face. So to expect them to actually
Speaker 1: come with a real, you know, proper accounting of what's happening,
Speaker 1: I think it's an impossible task at this point. And
Speaker 1: that's you know, we just see that over and over. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's like that's that's also how you see like
Speaker 1: a story like this come out. Because I can guarantee
Speaker 1: you this to reh happened because like a bunch of
Speaker 1: people were like that drinks after the office in DC,
Speaker 1: a few reporters and they were like, you know, I've
Speaker 1: heard about Kamala. She doesn't do this headphone thing. And
Speaker 1: then because they're all boring and stupid, they all talk
Speaker 1: about it because they got nothing real in their lives,
Speaker 1: and that that's how it becomes a story. They're like, oh,
Speaker 1: you don't google it. Okay, remember when she says we
Speaker 1: did it, Joe wired headphones. Okay, when she did this
Speaker 1: thing wired headphones, You're like, oh, ship, he's right, yeah,
Speaker 1: fucking always wired headphones. Yeah. You could feel the wine
Speaker 1: glass in their hand as they're like, oh, interesting, little discovered.
Speaker 1: Did you guys read the Jeremy Strong profile in the
Speaker 1: New Yorker that everybody was like, this guy is absurd. No,
Speaker 1: I haven't read it yet. It's so he is like
Speaker 1: a lot, but it gave me this like very strong
Speaker 1: feeling that this one also gives me that it's like
Speaker 1: journalism as cool kids making fun of like a dork,
Speaker 1: Like where like the writer of the New Yorker profile
Speaker 1: like first discloses your Jeremy Strong that plays Kendall Royal yeah, sorry, sorry,
Speaker 1: that should be disclosed, not expecting everyone to be like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, Jeremy Strong. Yeah. So kind of like the
Speaker 1: pieces like he takes himself very seriously as an actor,
Speaker 1: doesn't realize the show Succession is a comedy, is like
Speaker 1: what you mean, like in the sense that Checkov's a
Speaker 1: comedy and they're like, no, in the sense that is
Speaker 1: like funny, but it's just like a lot of like
Speaker 1: quotes from the people who work with him that are
Speaker 1: like this guy is real, real annoying. But it's also
Speaker 1: like written by somebody who went to Yale with him,
Speaker 1: so like it's like probably someone who's just like this
Speaker 1: guy fucking he's lame. Let's write it's just I don't
Speaker 1: think for me, another guy went to Yale, Right, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to hate, but you know the piece,
Speaker 1: it's like I don't give a funk about this, Like
Speaker 1: what I don't know. It's entertaining, like how seriously he
Speaker 1: takes himself, But I also feel like I don't know
Speaker 1: this idea of like the media as just the cool
Speaker 1: kids making fun of and the cool kids in the
Speaker 1: sense of they're not actually cool, but like they're the
Speaker 1: popular kids making fun of sucking people who are dorks
Speaker 1: just feels again like could we possibly make the mainstream
Speaker 1: media more hate hate herbal? I think they've every time
Speaker 1: I think that they've like cracked the ceiling, I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh no, there's a whole another floor. I didn't even
Speaker 1: realize it. Very darling ahold of my wine glass. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And it's just to like Phil Pages and ship, because
Speaker 1: it's also like we love Daniel day Lewis for that
Speaker 1: ship the exact same thing. You're like, oh, d d
Speaker 1: l like became Abraham Lincoln. Cool, but he's like a poser.
Speaker 1: He wants to be Daniel day Lewis, Like that's legitimately.
Speaker 1: He like idolized Daniel day Lewis and like follows him
Speaker 1: around and like apprentices under him. But it's just like
Speaker 1: Jeremy Strong does that's in there. Yeah, Yeah, he's like
Speaker 1: from the time he was like in high school, he's
Speaker 1: been obsessed with Daniel day Lewis and Dustin Hoffman and
Speaker 1: like all the you know, if anything, it just sounds
Speaker 1: like this article just says, bro, no better person could
Speaker 1: play Kendall Roy than Jeremy Strong. That's right, And that
Speaker 1: is the argument they're like right, like more than anything,
Speaker 1: this man is living it good or bad. So yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the whole damn point. And how dare somebody actually,
Speaker 1: like really work hard and not put everything they have
Speaker 1: into their dream? You know what? A loser and that
Speaker 1: just succeeded it. Yeah, I just couldn't be that. Like
Speaker 1: this is like one yell guy making fun of another
Speaker 1: yell guy. It's like how that I wouldn't like this
Speaker 1: writer either if I probably showed up with the same
Speaker 1: cable net sweater to a party one time and held
Speaker 1: it against him forever because he looked better in it.
Speaker 1: I should have I should have been doing push ups
Speaker 1: this week exactly. If Crewe hadn't been canceled Wednesday, my
Speaker 1: arms will be looking great. Yeah, Dowey, all right, let's
Speaker 1: take a quick break. We'll be right back, and we're back,
Speaker 1: and you know, as part of what what we've been
Speaker 1: talking about since the show started, but you know, just
Speaker 1: in the previous act of you know, all of us
Speaker 1: being in a state of like kind of forced cognitive
Speaker 1: dissonance where we're like, but that's not the truth, But
Speaker 1: we live in a world that doesn't acknowledge the truth,
Speaker 1: and like exists on the foundation of a lie. So
Speaker 1: one of the kind of embarrassing for from the outside,
Speaker 1: probably to anybody who's like kind of viewing the subjectively
Speaker 1: in the future. One of the embarrassing trends that will
Speaker 1: show up in history books from this period is regression,
Speaker 1: like how much we need to regress to our childhood
Speaker 1: to get through day to day life. And there's a
Speaker 1: new kind of high water mark in that with this,
Speaker 1: with this Fisher Price working baby phone. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: every every person knows what we're talking about. Just picture
Speaker 1: the iconic nineteen Fisher Price chatter phone. It's a phone
Speaker 1: with the rotary wheel and then literal like car wheels
Speaker 1: on the side, has like a smiling face on it,
Speaker 1: and it's all very colorful. They've made a Bluetooth enabled
Speaker 1: accessory out of this, and the promotional photos are just
Speaker 1: so funny to me and haunting because a lot of
Speaker 1: the pictures are full blown adults in their thirties and
Speaker 1: forties like using this toy phone and they're like, ha ha,
Speaker 1: I'm talking to mom on toy phone, and I get Look,
Speaker 1: nostalgia is huge, but there's just something about this that
Speaker 1: just really, I don't know, like it just to see
Speaker 1: people seem like they're being saved by using this instead
Speaker 1: of their phone. I think speaks volumes. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, part I would be lying if I said
Speaker 1: that's it's kind of funny to me, that would be
Speaker 1: stupid to have. And I think that's kind of, you know,
Speaker 1: sort of what the what the mission is right now
Speaker 1: With Fisher Price, they found a new niche for themselves
Speaker 1: to be like, come on, babies, bring it back to one,
Speaker 1: bring it back like like re selling the products to
Speaker 1: the adults now that they used as kids as repurposed
Speaker 1: as like hell, yeah, this is the future. They're going
Speaker 1: to sell an actual car that you can drive on
Speaker 1: the highway. But it's shaped like that Fisher Price car,
Speaker 1: like with the yellow roof, and you know people will
Speaker 1: drive it even though you will die immediately and regularly
Speaker 1: cameras have to put up with that ship right right, Hello,
Speaker 1: I'm driving a iron a car. How are you for?
Speaker 1: Like many many little takes kitchens, they're like I prefer
Speaker 1: to actually cook in here. It's a lot simpler. We
Speaker 1: have an open floor plan and we have a Fisher
Speaker 1: Price kitchen. We have a kitchen has done, we had
Speaker 1: it done by a you know, like a developer or
Speaker 1: whatever kitchen people are called. And we had it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the whole thing is like your kids. It's like that's
Speaker 1: an easy bake oven, but it's really like, you know,
Speaker 1: very expensive of it. Yeah, really like Viking. That's a
Speaker 1: Viking range. It's a Viking. But it's like we got
Speaker 1: the stuff on the outside. It looks like which means
Speaker 1: like we're fun people. Also, I noticed and do you
Speaker 1: guys have a regular toilet in there? I just saw
Speaker 1: the that's it and what okay, So when I'm done
Speaker 1: with it, do you empty? Oh? Yeah, yeah, you're empty it.
Speaker 1: We have we have people. We have people empty. Yeah.
Speaker 1: We make them dress up like little Fisher Price work people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: yellow helmet. Where the funk am I? But it seems like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this trend is going to continue. But there's something this
Speaker 1: just felt like really truly, I don't know, like we're
Speaker 1: I I feel like this is like we're only going
Speaker 1: to see things ramp up from here, because it does
Speaker 1: seem like a huge thing like people love, especially with
Speaker 1: the pandemic too, and like trying to just resort to
Speaker 1: whatever quite literally makes you the most comfortable, and people
Speaker 1: be like yeah, I'm just gonna wear like sick gas
Speaker 1: pajamas or like this, like influx I've seen of like
Speaker 1: just like leisure robes for people to wear. Everything's just
Speaker 1: about comfort at this point. So if you need to
Speaker 1: be a baby on your phone hard enough. I do
Speaker 1: have a lawnmower that has a colorful ball popcorn popper
Speaker 1: on the tope that I do my chores with. But
Speaker 1: but that's actually that's just cool, like okay, like that
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with me. Addressing in defense of
Speaker 1: these people. The capitalistic model of endless growth means these
Speaker 1: people are like listen, Fisher Price is done. We've done
Speaker 1: it all. There's nothing else we can do. But they
Speaker 1: still have to have meetings and stuff. So someone, what
Speaker 1: about those what about those customers from forty years ago
Speaker 1: that we're buying stuff I don't know selling to him? Now?
Speaker 1: Make it relevant to them now they're not babies anymore.
Speaker 1: Has gotten as good as it can get, but not
Speaker 1: if it shoots up little plastic pebbles when you roll
Speaker 1: it around down to it it cuts the lawn. Right,
Speaker 1: But you guys don't want to hear that, right, because well,
Speaker 1: you've gone crazy across brand with Fisher Price were deer. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: oh my god, dad watch and then suddenly like more
Speaker 1: people are using those than like traditional you know John
Speaker 1: Deere writing mowers like I don't know, just something about it,
Speaker 1: man lots simpler. Yeah, can you steaks cut their fucking
Speaker 1: lawn with those? Like you know those old push mowarers
Speaker 1: that like there's just a rotating blade. Oh yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: always wondering how committed like rockabilly people are. I have
Speaker 1: seen people cutting their lawn with the Simpsons lawnmower like
Speaker 1: that from you know, the one that's just like you
Speaker 1: push and it has it's like wheels with like aids connecting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm talking about. Yeah, I've I've seen I've
Speaker 1: seen more and more of that, and they never look
Speaker 1: like they're having a great time with that thing. You
Speaker 1: were talking about time traveling? Were you talking about that
Speaker 1: on the show? Where were you talking about that before
Speaker 1: the show? On the show? On the show, Wednesday is
Speaker 1: a time traveling day? What does that mean? Pretend to
Speaker 1: be it? I think it's just a nod to like
Speaker 1: all the science fiction shows and films that have time
Speaker 1: travel in it. So it's like a day for people
Speaker 1: like that. It's okay. So I'd be like, use that lawnmower. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like using however you want to interpret it. Man, if
Speaker 1: you want to get out there and buy a shitty
Speaker 1: push lawnmower, a manuel lawnmower, then fucking do it. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: and put on and we're like a roll up some
Speaker 1: cigarettes in your sleeve and get up the door going
Speaker 1: and pretend it's nineteen imaginary year. Put on that little
Speaker 1: skull cap with a propeller on top. I like when
Speaker 1: they mix up the times, you know, like they were like,
Speaker 1: you know, they look like a prospect Or slash Danny
Speaker 1: Zuko slash. Yeah, you know what I mean, Like you're
Speaker 1: wearing a Prospector. You're mixing up your genres. Those pants
Speaker 1: are from the eighteen nineties, from nineteen fifty six. We
Speaker 1: actually call these pants denym's. That's what the French people
Speaker 1: called them. Then yeah, yeah, that's taking me straight to
Speaker 1: people finding denim and old mines. That's the dream, you know.
Speaker 1: They're they're looking at that. They like to find the cigarettes,
Speaker 1: like the Prince Albert and they'll sometimes find a minor
Speaker 1: cigarette from nineteen forty that's half smoked and there no they'
Speaker 1: just pick it up and go imagine who smoked this,
Speaker 1: which is like shit. You know, most of the Band
Speaker 1: of Mine exploration is just imagining. I mean, that's what
Speaker 1: it's all about. It's like, imagine who use this pick?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's a pick from God. The last
Speaker 1: person who used this at a crazy mustache. By the way,
Speaker 1: it's not all Wednesdays are pretend to be a time
Speaker 1: traveler day. This is December eight, pretend to be a
Speaker 1: time traveler. Yeah, we acknowledge all the international days now
Speaker 1: at the top of our show. There's just another one
Speaker 1: of these trends that I don't know if this one
Speaker 1: will even make the I mean, I guess celebrity obsession
Speaker 1: will make the history books of like just embarrassing ship
Speaker 1: from late stage capitalism when everybody had to distract themselves
Speaker 1: from what was happening. There's a new Justin Bieber branded
Speaker 1: Tim Horton's donnut in Collabo and people Canada are really
Speaker 1: into it. There's promotional material with Bieber at Tim Horton's HQ.
Speaker 1: This is this is a new trend that I noticed
Speaker 1: in a couple of places. He is on a conference
Speaker 1: room table, sitting in the middle of the table, like
Speaker 1: he doesn't know how to how to do it, Like
Speaker 1: he doesn't know how tables and chairs work because he's
Speaker 1: a rebel dude. That was like that reminded me of
Speaker 1: the machine Gun Kellie thing where they're like, anybody who
Speaker 1: thinks it's not lit to work at Spotify, check this out.
Speaker 1: And he's like doing air guitar down the middle of
Speaker 1: the from table. Do you remember the Office of the
Speaker 1: British Office when David does like like motivational corporate speaking
Speaker 1: and he's like, all right, let's take a photo really quick,
Speaker 1: and he hops on the table and does like a
Speaker 1: Burt Reynolds pose and they're like just standing his high
Speaker 1: He's like British Office rules, Yeah, ex extras rules too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And yeah, so people are they're they're also doing the
Speaker 1: Duncan thing with the merch and it's selling out and
Speaker 1: then being resold for lots of money. And you know,
Speaker 1: McDonald's is launching Mariah Carry's Christmas Menu, which they have
Speaker 1: imaginedly dubbed the Mariah Menu but literation, Yeah, what the
Speaker 1: hell is on that? This is just like her favorites
Speaker 1: and it's like stuff that's been there, like that's everyone's favorites,
Speaker 1: like the Big Mac. Have you heard about this one?
Speaker 1: The Big Mac? The Bigger who? The Big what? Now?
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, hey, are they calling it the like the
Speaker 1: Big Mariah or something? For the holidays? So they've designed
Speaker 1: it like it's a advent calendar with a different McDonald's
Speaker 1: item every day. I can't even tell what some of
Speaker 1: them are. But you know you got the soft baked
Speaker 1: chocolate chip cookie, the apple pie. There's nothing novel about
Speaker 1: it's just like, okay, you put your menu in calendar
Speaker 1: for him and then co opted Mariah Carry's name, which,
Speaker 1: for me personally, I refuse to believe Mariah Gary would
Speaker 1: ever eat McDonald's. No fucking way, I don't eat McDonald's.
Speaker 1: If I don't eat McDonald's, he's never even been near McDonald's.
Speaker 1: That's that's just my that's just how I feel. I
Speaker 1: don't see how these two worlds combine, but I guess
Speaker 1: from marketing purposes, that's yeah. What's what's another one? Like?
Speaker 1: What would be another nonbelievable cross branding? You know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Like anyone who's been on Friends, I feel like,
Speaker 1: let me fucking McDonald's or Jennifer Papa John's menu exactly
Speaker 1: right here, you probably like killed the delivery person and
Speaker 1: hit the body like one day, Like that's that's your
Speaker 1: closest interaction with Papa John's. The Rachel is now a
Speaker 1: pizza whatever I'm eating knots Hi. I'm Jennifer Anderson, and
Speaker 1: when I go to Wiener Schnitzel, you know I'm getting
Speaker 1: chili cheese. Do refuses to eat it on camera of course,
Speaker 1: or even even be in the same room as it, right,
Speaker 1: or she's like they're doing anything where like she is
Speaker 1: bringing it towards her mouth, and then they do an
Speaker 1: insert where it's a close up of like clearly a
Speaker 1: dude's mouth who was like to be right right right,
Speaker 1: but like putting like a nice manicure on the hand.
Speaker 1: We're like, yeah, come on now, we all know. That's
Speaker 1: why I'm curious to see if this resonates, because I
Speaker 1: think with Bieber, like you appeal to younger kids. Younger kids. Sure,
Speaker 1: they're they're still eating junk food, have less money, but
Speaker 1: like made by Dunkin doughnuts exactly, or you know, drifted
Speaker 1: or fast fashion. But I just don't Mariah look carry
Speaker 1: for Dollar General. Yeah, whenever I'm a dollar general. What
Speaker 1: is dollar general? I feel like it's a lamb observation
Speaker 1: to be like celebrities are our modern day like Greek gods.
Speaker 1: But they're like that's something I've always just like kind
Speaker 1: of thought was true. And there's this article at this
Speaker 1: New York article about somebody who like basically documents dreams
Speaker 1: and has been documenting dreams like during the pandemic to
Speaker 1: see what they're if they're like shared things and all
Speaker 1: this stuff you would expect is pretty much they're like
Speaker 1: like what you would expect a pandemic dream to be like.
Speaker 1: But they said that, like it's known among dreams, like
Speaker 1: people who pay attention to and analyzed dreams, that like,
Speaker 1: celebrities are officially like filling the purpose that gods did
Speaker 1: in ancient Greece, like the because they were keeping track
Speaker 1: of their dreams back then. And it's just like all
Speaker 1: the same dreams, but just swapping celebrities instead of like zeus.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's you know that Maria Bamford bit about
Speaker 1: Jennifer Anderston being the like the monkey that knows where
Speaker 1: the most bananas are, Like, would people follow celebrities because
Speaker 1: they have access to the most bananas basically, like that's
Speaker 1: the same thing where it's like back to like I
Speaker 1: somehow ended up like you know, I'm on YouTube, book
Speaker 1: and for ship, and I'll like run into something like
Speaker 1: you know what what Nietzsche said? You know, like some
Speaker 1: four minute video or is like do you want to
Speaker 1: know what Nietzsche is? You can say it at a
Speaker 1: dinner party, which I had never even been to a
Speaker 1: dinner party, but okay, whole different lifestyle. And I love
Speaker 1: that guy's YouTube videos. He's the best. That's so that's
Speaker 1: so sad that that's so sad that he passed away.
Speaker 1: He was one of my favorite e d M d js.
Speaker 1: E uh well, actually it's too many ease they would
Speaker 1: have less vowels. The Nietzi anyway, just needs you the
Speaker 1: whole God is dead thing, like how you know that
Speaker 1: period when he was talking about it was it seems
Speaker 1: like a long time ago, but you know it's not
Speaker 1: a long time agoes like two hundred years ago, which
Speaker 1: you know, big pictures, no time. So just the idea
Speaker 1: that without his point being, God is dead and then
Speaker 1: the culture is gonna go bananas because you know he's
Speaker 1: like he was talking about the secular secularization that was
Speaker 1: going on then, and and that was like nothing compared
Speaker 1: to now, you know, so it's like people really need
Speaker 1: to have something to do or to believe in. I mean,
Speaker 1: otherwise you just mill around. And that's what we're in
Speaker 1: right now in America. It is just this point where
Speaker 1: people are like don't believe in the government, They don't
Speaker 1: really believe in fucking anything right now, and it's a
Speaker 1: dangerous period. And that's where these fascists come in and say,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what to believe in. We just need
Speaker 1: someone to yell at everybody to get people in line.
Speaker 1: You know, I'll be your new God. I mean that's
Speaker 1: what Trump filled. I feel like that, like that was
Speaker 1: the thing that that revelation that like psychologically that's where
Speaker 1: celebrities are. They are like the modern day God's Like
Speaker 1: that made me less like surprised, but like more certain
Speaker 1: that that is like celebrities role at the center of
Speaker 1: our culture is probably headed for a fall, and like
Speaker 1: it starts, it starts making sense of the like why
Speaker 1: the president at like from sixteen twenty was like live
Speaker 1: tweeting the Oscars and just like shipping on everybody because
Speaker 1: you know, like he's positioning himself as the anti like,
Speaker 1: you know, Hollywood celebrity. I don't know if it's on
Speaker 1: purpose or because they don't like him, but it works
Speaker 1: the same, you know. Yeah, yeah, he sees them as
Speaker 1: his his only competition, right, well, yeah, yeah, that's a
Speaker 1: that's a I just remember that. The one I remember
Speaker 1: one of my first like interactions with Nietzsche was in
Speaker 1: my like Lutheran elementary school, like on a field trip.
Speaker 1: One of the teachers wore a shirt that had a quote.
Speaker 1: It's on the front it said God is Dead, and
Speaker 1: then it says it's subscribed to Nietzchi and then on
Speaker 1: the back it says Nietzsche is dead, God Holy Ship.
Speaker 1: And remember asking my dad, I was like, what is that?
Speaker 1: He said, who had that? That sounds like critical race
Speaker 1: theory to me? He's like that dude, He's like, have
Speaker 1: you seen how much he starts playing that acoustic guitar.
Speaker 1: He's not getting it in what did you just say?
Speaker 1: Did you just say he's not getting it in no
Speaker 1: very crude description? Is that what you said? Though? Yes,
Speaker 1: it is okay, because I don't know if that's that's
Speaker 1: that's that's so sad. The new. Does that what it
Speaker 1: means not getting not getting laid? Yeah, just you know,
Speaker 1: getting you know what I'm saying, you're getting whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you're getting it in as a definitely different connotations.
Speaker 1: I got it so Okay, So because I was over
Speaker 1: at my friends Thanksgiving and they're they have kids, and
Speaker 1: they were talking about now, kids say that if you're
Speaker 1: no one ever admits there dating anybody. They just say
Speaker 1: they're talking to them. Did you know that? Yeah, like cold,
Speaker 1: they just say we've been talking for three months and
Speaker 1: that means fucking yeah, Like that's what kids say, and
Speaker 1: and and and it was girls talking to me like
Speaker 1: young you know, teenage girls just complaining like my friends daughters.
Speaker 1: And they were like, yeah, like these guys are just
Speaker 1: using it as a they won't they just stay talking.
Speaker 1: They want to stay talking because it gives them an
Speaker 1: out basically, you know, it's just like that I wasn't
Speaker 1: you're just talking Yeah, like, well yeah, we're not. They were.
Speaker 1: It's like they're like, it's basically an idea men came
Speaker 1: up with, so they just couldn't wouldn't have to commit
Speaker 1: to having a girlfriend. Yeah, so you even in high
Speaker 1: school now people are trying to be players. I mean,
Speaker 1: I remember when I was growing up. You got school,
Speaker 1: you think Jesus, and you asked that woman to marry you,
Speaker 1: and she went to college and forgot about you. I
Speaker 1: feel like every generation has their own like euphemism that,
Speaker 1: but talking is like really, that's like very impersonal when
Speaker 1: you're Yeah, because I feel like that, even because I
Speaker 1: feel like when I was in college sort of really
Speaker 1: began like the earnest push to like completely obscure what
Speaker 1: kind of relationship you were in. You'd be like, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: we just no, we just kind of seeing each other,
Speaker 1: like that's your fucking girlfriend, right, and you're like, na, no, no,
Speaker 1: we're just seeing each other. She's pregnant and we are
Speaker 1: codependent in a very unhealthy way. It's like okay, But
Speaker 1: I think that was just me to convince myself I
Speaker 1: wasn't about to be my parents. I was amazed, like yeah, like,
Speaker 1: do you Marcy take what's his name to talk to
Speaker 1: for all eternity? I mean, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just just I was surprised by that. I didn't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, of course it makes sense. I mean, as
Speaker 1: supposed to our model didn't work either, which was fall
Speaker 1: in love with your high school girlfriend and say you're
Speaker 1: gonna get married and stayed together forever until it's also
Speaker 1: which is also a complete madness. And then you call
Speaker 1: her at college. Yeah, and some guy answers the phone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what's what the greatest song of all time? And
Speaker 1: she says it's just your friend and then a friend
Speaker 1: and then you call. But then you call a bunch
Speaker 1: of times. He keeps answering the phone, and then you
Speaker 1: start to sweat, and that you is me. I prefer
Speaker 1: just making whoopie. That's that's the term that I've prefer.
Speaker 1: Oh you you know another another field trip thing we
Speaker 1: got in trouble for my boy Nick. He wore a
Speaker 1: hat from making Georgia that was spelled like M A
Speaker 1: C O and like making Georgia, and he said making whoopee.
Speaker 1: And I remember, you know, the fucking Lutherans tripped the
Speaker 1: fuck out at the Mark Taper Theater when we went
Speaker 1: to go see Huckleberry Finn or some ship anyway I had.
Speaker 1: You were raised Lutheran, Miles no, no, no, I was
Speaker 1: just like the cheapest school that my parents could afford.
Speaker 1: H North Alicia at the time, or just that sounds
Speaker 1: like hardcore Lutheran I think er, Oh no, no, it
Speaker 1: was like I definitely I learned the ways of the church,
Speaker 1: but like in a very like outside way. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm not to invest in this, but interesting, interesting to see.
Speaker 1: Miles still wears a hair shirt underneath his outer T
Speaker 1: shirts for our recordings, just he doesn't feel comfortable or
Speaker 1: creative or like hair shirts on podcasts anymore. About time
Speaker 1: we changed that starts. Yeah, all right, that's gonna do
Speaker 1: it for this week's weekly Zeite. Guys, please like and
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Speaker 1: hope you're having a great weekend and I will talk
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