Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to seventeen, Episode
Speaker 1: two of The Daily Guice, the production of I Heart Radio. Uh.
Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we take it deep to
Speaker 1: dive into America's share consciousness. And it is Tuesday, December one,
Speaker 1: which is the Winter Solstice. That's This is actually the
Speaker 1: second time we've done the intro. I couldn't come up
Speaker 1: with a national or international day because Myles wasn't here,
Speaker 1: But that's a that's a big one. I feel like
Speaker 1: even years ago we'd be doing something for that holiday.
Speaker 1: But anyways, Happy Winter Solstice to everyone. My name is
Speaker 1: Jack O'Brien. A k a umm am a'ma a'm a
Speaker 1: Cromberry and your proteins grow, your proteins grow, and then Emma, hey, yeah,
Speaker 1: let's just end it there. Shout out to Chaunty Yonders.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if I can have
Speaker 1: fun doing a'm a crown a k is anymore. It's
Speaker 1: you're not ready for round three, Chack. You know what
Speaker 1: we're doing. We're like in third grade of the pandemic.
Speaker 1: We know what we're doing. We know what supplies we need.
Speaker 1: I've already got my pod is pre approved. Ready to go.
Speaker 1: It's like habit for me. Now I know exactly how
Speaker 1: to shrink my life. I know where the abundance is
Speaker 1: going to be. I'm gonna do nature again. That's what
Speaker 1: happens every time we go back in. I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: I love trees. Got out. I appreciate that. H Third
Speaker 1: Lockdown pep Talk from today's special guest co host, We're thrilled, blessed,
Speaker 1: fortunate to be joined by a producer. Here and my
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Speaker 1: the longest night of the year Vampires. I'm really excited
Speaker 1: for us. I love nighttime. I get much more done
Speaker 1: when people don't expect anything from me. Don't look at me,
Speaker 1: and I'll be productive is my Yeah, we're here, we're
Speaker 1: doing it. I'm sorry to the seasonal depressed people. It's
Speaker 1: hard time for you guys. It's I feel like I
Speaker 1: have like podcast season old depression, where just like this year,
Speaker 1: this time of year, every year, I'm like limping through
Speaker 1: the finish line, thank you for depression, and like long
Speaker 1: stretch to vacation where you're like it's coming, a break
Speaker 1: is coming, nast extra episodes for the year and stuff,
Speaker 1: and it's just you know, all the people come out
Speaker 1: of the woodwork. It's just oh my god, and just
Speaker 1: a flat panic just like we got. Anyways, Happy Winter Solstice,
Speaker 1: the longest night of the year. Like this is the
Speaker 1: the holiday of indoor people. I like to think of
Speaker 1: it as like this is when we just like bring
Speaker 1: a tree indoors, we watch movies indoors, we just hang
Speaker 1: out with loved ones indoors. Fewer loved ones than usual
Speaker 1: maybe this year, but anyways, Joel, we are thrilled to
Speaker 1: be joined in our third seat by a very talented
Speaker 1: and hilarious writer, stand up comedian podcast hosted The Bechdel Cast,
Speaker 1: which takes down the patriarchy one movie at a time.
Speaker 1: She also happen to have a Masters Degraham film No
Speaker 1: Big Deal uh, and also the most anagrammable name in
Speaker 1: the English language. So depending on whether you've been given
Speaker 1: her name in an assortment of scrabble tiles, you might
Speaker 1: know her as nine Tip Dracula or a Latin dancer
Speaker 1: U t I, but in our hearts she will always
Speaker 1: be Caitlin Duranta. Wow. What an intro. What a setup
Speaker 1: for me to share a new wow and anagram of
Speaker 1: my name, except I don't have a new one. You know,
Speaker 1: the work has been done, you like, we've been given
Speaker 1: the greatest antagrams of all time. So thank you for
Speaker 1: your name, no, no need. You are officially, you know,
Speaker 1: the most anagrammable. Thanks. So the legacy has is, it's
Speaker 1: been set, it's it's been established. Yeah, and now I
Speaker 1: could just coast absolutely and calem. What is your favorite?
Speaker 1: Just to kind of what's your favorite antagram of your name?
Speaker 1: I really like Lauren D Titanic. Yeah. Uh, speaking of
Speaker 1: I did buy the Lego Titanic. I say, did you
Speaker 1: build it? I built it and it was it was great.
Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna take me like months and
Speaker 1: months and I would just be like working tirelessly at it.
Speaker 1: But it turns out, when you're not a child anymore
Speaker 1: and you're an adult who knows how to read instructions,
Speaker 1: the le Lego tells you exactly what to do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like build a thing. So I just followed the instructions
Speaker 1: and very I would say I invested a solid like
Speaker 1: fifteen hours into building it. Gosh, I built it without
Speaker 1: a hitch. But when I was a kid and was
Speaker 1: trying to build legos or lego whatever, that is right,
Speaker 1: very much a thing and they don't like it. They
Speaker 1: don't like it. They're like the plural of lego is lego, Like,
Speaker 1: please never use an s. Lots of angry messages about
Speaker 1: that in the past, So sorry, So is there another
Speaker 1: word in that's common in the English language that is
Speaker 1: ang Oh no, yeah, I got I got fish and
Speaker 1: my uh deer and stuff. But like that ends, and
Speaker 1: oh I feel like that that no such thing as
Speaker 1: that goes. But again, it's a brand name that I
Speaker 1: will damn well put an s at the end of
Speaker 1: if I please, Uh, I would understand if it was
Speaker 1: like a thing, but I just don't know legs. Oh
Speaker 1: maybe maybe it's not an US thing. Maybe it is
Speaker 1: because Lego is not from They're not an American company,
Speaker 1: right Swedish. Yeah, I'm probably like just a spousing like
Speaker 1: this is like me, my my own version of being,
Speaker 1: Like I call him Freedom Fries, Denmark Denmark, Right, right, Denmark.
Speaker 1: Sorry anyways, Yeah, I too have found Caitlin that I
Speaker 1: reached appropriate age for like, you know, building somewhat like
Speaker 1: complex legos at as like by by the directions provided
Speaker 1: by Lego, like in my late thirties early forties, like
Speaker 1: once my kids started having them, and prior to that
Speaker 1: I was it was just buying a Lego set for
Speaker 1: me was just a way to contribute to a bunch
Speaker 1: of small things on the ground in my bedroom when
Speaker 1: I was younger. So same, Yeah, you can build a
Speaker 1: typewriter with out of Lego. That is crazy. It was
Speaker 1: working so cool. I don't know if it were. It
Speaker 1: looks like it should be able to work. It's so
Speaker 1: I don't drop in the yet. I'm sorry, I totally
Speaker 1: side rail, but like, oh my god, looks so cool.
Speaker 1: Man Tom Hanks is somewhere just fully aroused, rightly get
Speaker 1: the mouth. I also, I also want to say, as
Speaker 1: somebody who has come to this point in my life
Speaker 1: with kids who have no respect for the work that
Speaker 1: I'm trying to do with the Lego that I bought
Speaker 1: for them, I want to say that the perspective of
Speaker 1: Will Ferrell's character and the Lego movie is underrated, like
Speaker 1: make the drama from the dad's perspective. Kids just leading
Speaker 1: their legos every they of this town that I've built.
Speaker 1: This is my happy place, like eighty hours a week.
Speaker 1: He's so mad when he comes home and the Legos
Speaker 1: are in the wrong place. You get it, Joe up,
Speaker 1: Just I don't have children. Number one unsupportable. Wait, that
Speaker 1: doesn't look like it's made out of Lego at all.
Speaker 1: I know that's the thing about Lego. Should we get it?
Speaker 1: I'll buy it. Fine, should we get it? Let's do it?
Speaker 1: Wow a mere two. Yeah. So let's say I got
Speaker 1: this and then was building it painstakingly and my kids
Speaker 1: come through and want to play with it. Come on,
Speaker 1: horrible the worst? Anyways, I I did. You also took
Speaker 1: like a time lapse video of the building of the
Speaker 1: Titanic and posted it on Instagram. I think I saw.
Speaker 1: Actually I did a few of those. Yes, yeah, those.
Speaker 1: That was very impressive, and the world thanks you for
Speaker 1: for putting in that work so we can see how
Speaker 1: it all comes together. An incredible engineer. As it turns out,
Speaker 1: I killed it all by myself, and now I have
Speaker 1: nowhere to put it because it's huge, it's over, it's
Speaker 1: like four and a half feet long. I don't know
Speaker 1: where to keep it. I have nowhere in my apartment,
Speaker 1: too special shelf. I truly I do before this, but
Speaker 1: it's there, and it's it's staying there. It's I'm not
Speaker 1: going to take it apart. Yeah? Is it seaworthy? Is
Speaker 1: it something that you could just like take to take
Speaker 1: to sea and baby sail it? Unless there are any
Speaker 1: lego icebergs around? Right? Yeah, it might be all right,
Speaker 1: might make it, might make it all right, Caitlin. We're
Speaker 1: going to get to know you a little bit better
Speaker 1: in a moment. First we can tell our listeners a
Speaker 1: couple of the things we're talking about. We're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about a macron just where where we're at. There's a
Speaker 1: weird weekend last weekend, and it seems like people are
Speaker 1: not just me getting exhaust did with a K song
Speaker 1: parodies about diseases killing a lot of people, but also
Speaker 1: people like people who make decisions are getting tired of
Speaker 1: like following doctor's orders. Just just want to take a
Speaker 1: quick snapshot of where we're at, because I both think
Speaker 1: it's very unhealthy and scary and also like I get
Speaker 1: it I feel like I understand where people are feeling
Speaker 1: exhausted by the whole thing. In some cases, some people
Speaker 1: I find very infuriating, like a Sienna and anchor who
Speaker 1: was like, so what, like, we're not closing back down basically,
Speaker 1: which was easy for him out. Uh, We're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about Amazon's charity, which you know, everything bays Us Touches
Speaker 1: is like, all right, this this probably has good intentions,
Speaker 1: but you're going to be shocked by what you learned
Speaker 1: in this story. We're gonna talk about the hottest new
Speaker 1: gift trend. Anti five g merch writer J M McNabb
Speaker 1: contributed a story just kind of tracking that trend. All
Speaker 1: of that plenty more, But first we do like to
Speaker 1: ask our guest Caitlin, what is something from your search history?
Speaker 1: I searched movies set in San Francisco because if all
Speaker 1: goes according to plan, Jamie Loftus and I are doing
Speaker 1: a live show in San Francisco in January, except you know,
Speaker 1: things might be canceled, which you know, as much as
Speaker 1: I would love to do live shows again, it's probably
Speaker 1: not the best time for that. So depending on how
Speaker 1: things pan out with COVID variants, we may or may
Speaker 1: not be doing a show, but if we are. It's
Speaker 1: in San Francisco for SF sketch Fest January nine, and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, we should cover a movie based
Speaker 1: in the city that were performing at. So I had
Speaker 1: to do a little quick goog to see what movies
Speaker 1: would be appropriate. And here's what I Here were my
Speaker 1: top three picks of ones we haven't already done, because
Speaker 1: we've done a few. For example, Princess Diaries, it takes
Speaker 1: myself class San Francisco, Mrs Doubtfire famously takes place there.
Speaker 1: That is one that you have done. Or yes, we've
Speaker 1: also done the Wedding Planner movie that famously takes place
Speaker 1: in San Francisco. What we haven't done is Zodiac have
Speaker 1: not done the movie Jobs nor the movie Steve Jobs.
Speaker 1: I think those are Those are two different movies that
Speaker 1: I'm One has Ashton Kutcher and one has Michael Fastbender superior.
Speaker 1: Yeah right. And then of course George of the Jungle
Speaker 1: takes place in San Ftancisco, according to the Google search
Speaker 1: that I did in the listical that I found, and
Speaker 1: that would be my top pick Georgia George of the Jungle.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I was thinking because you're, you know, a
Speaker 1: film scholar who has master's. I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: Vertigo came to mind. But then I was like, no,
Speaker 1: she's gonna go George of the Jungle. I bet she
Speaker 1: she has a little bit of a deeper knowledge than
Speaker 1: I do. So yeah, I'm a scholar. I am. I
Speaker 1: have this impressive advanced degree. Yes, yes, Georgia the Jungle.
Speaker 1: It is Georgia the Jungle is such a great nostalgic feel.
Speaker 1: But did you say Zodiac or Vertigo is here? Both? Both?
Speaker 1: I believe both. Well, Okay, then listen Barbi. For me,
Speaker 1: I only have bachelories in films, so you know, it's
Speaker 1: it's not as impressive, But I really I would love
Speaker 1: to hear the conspiracy theories I hear. There's like so
Speaker 1: many wild stories from the film set of Zodiac that
Speaker 1: are fun to explore. I feel like and that talent
Speaker 1: like all of the hopefully your fans would be really intigious,
Speaker 1: the murder mystery, weird film actor miss of all of it.
Speaker 1: But then there's George Jungle and you get to look
Speaker 1: at a body in its prime like Brendan Fraser who
Speaker 1: treasure National Icon, et cetera, like a good human and
Speaker 1: a great body. It's a win. Yeah, yeah, I can't
Speaker 1: can't be beat, can't argue with that. So the Jungle
Speaker 1: in question and Georgia the Jungle, which I have not
Speaker 1: seen even what Jack, if you never see George of
Speaker 1: the Jungle, Wow, your children will love it. It's so funny.
Speaker 1: I need anything as I'm at a point where they
Speaker 1: only want to watch cars too. Oh not not just cars,
Speaker 1: cars to the worst of the cars. Did you not
Speaker 1: show them Paddington too? And why are they thinking to
Speaker 1: watch that over and over again every day? Like it?
Speaker 1: And it makes it like demoralizing when they have a
Speaker 1: temper tantrum because like I'm putting up with this ship
Speaker 1: from somebody wants to watch Cars too when we get home,
Speaker 1: Like it's just a real kicking the gut. I'm sorry. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but the Cars franchise has always been very popular with
Speaker 1: the you know, I think kids under under six, but
Speaker 1: if they're boys under like seven, that's it. Like there's
Speaker 1: no greater franchise for them than Car. I use a
Speaker 1: babysit a kid. But when there were only two Cars
Speaker 1: movies and it was just every like once a week,
Speaker 1: every single week, it was Cars the entire time we
Speaker 1: were together. That's all he wanted to watch. It was
Speaker 1: truly if I was like, listen, Aladdin is so good.
Speaker 1: It got nominated for stuff. Okay, people really like it's
Speaker 1: got a banging soundtrack, nothing, nothing. I have to go
Speaker 1: through the whole so like the way it's set up
Speaker 1: on Disney Plus is that like you go to the
Speaker 1: Pixar section and then you go through all the movies
Speaker 1: that they're expecting you to be looking for based on
Speaker 1: like popularity, quality and cars to like. It sometimes changes order,
Speaker 1: I think, just based on like searching and you know
Speaker 1: how Pixars feeling about themselves on that day. Cars Too
Speaker 1: has never not been the very last bottom. Like I
Speaker 1: have to go through every single one of the Pixar movies.
Speaker 1: They like Wally, but it's like, yeah, but Wally's like vegetables.
Speaker 1: Let's let's do some cars to which has machine guns
Speaker 1: in it for some reason. It's like, come on, anyways,
Speaker 1: they're not allowed to watch Cars Too anymore. But it's
Speaker 1: it's not good. It's not a good time right now. Yea, planes,
Speaker 1: we've never watched planes. I'm not going to do it.
Speaker 1: Tom to myself, don't do it. To yourself, because it's
Speaker 1: somehow worse than cars tooses. I mean, they gave they
Speaker 1: gave up on that ship, like after the second one,
Speaker 1: I think, which is amazing. Caitlin, what is something you
Speaker 1: think is overrated? Okay, so I'm glad you had said
Speaker 1: something of a movie staring well Ferrell that is underrated,
Speaker 1: because we brought up the Lego movie. Something that I
Speaker 1: think is overrated is the movie Elf. There I said it.
Speaker 1: I know I'm the only person I believe who has
Speaker 1: this take, but I absolutely hate the movie Elf back
Speaker 1: right now, Okay, we let's let's get into it. What
Speaker 1: is it? What? What is there? What specifically is overrated
Speaker 1: about it? What are people too hyped about around it? Okay?
Speaker 1: I don't I just find the Elf character and I
Speaker 1: know you have to suspend your disbelief for things, but
Speaker 1: it's more like, oh gosh, he I just find his
Speaker 1: like the overwhelming what's the word enthusiasm, Yeah, enthusiasm and
Speaker 1: just like joy and just whatevery all of that just irritating.
Speaker 1: He's too naive And some people might be like, well, Caitlin,
Speaker 1: isn't the character of Paddington the exact same way? And
Speaker 1: thank you also heading to the Bear and Elf as
Speaker 1: an adult man. So I just can't get behind I
Speaker 1: just and then on top of that, I just don't
Speaker 1: think it's funny or good and I but to be fair,
Speaker 1: I'm also a big grinch when it comes to Christmas content. Mh.
Speaker 1: So we had our Christmas party kind of Christmas lunch,
Speaker 1: we'll call it. It was fun though. We we saw
Speaker 1: each other in person, and we we had Miles pick
Speaker 1: for a holiday movie, which was complicated by the fact
Speaker 1: that Miles didn't come. Miles couldn't make it, and so
Speaker 1: I think he gave us Like the worst one was
Speaker 1: Christmas Rush about a radio DJ who's I don't know,
Speaker 1: nobody was really paying attention, and uh, you can with
Speaker 1: the greatest Christmas movie I've ever seen. Movies in black
Speaker 1: and white. It's a problem. It was so dour. I
Speaker 1: was like, this is not bringing I'm from the Midwest.
Speaker 1: I feel like Elf is a physical manifestation of Midwestern
Speaker 1: Christmas spirit. It's like, oh, that's so knowing again, like
Speaker 1: I can't even like cookies, how and where did they
Speaker 1: come from? And it's just, oh, my god, family, there's
Speaker 1: just so much love in the room. It's beautiful and
Speaker 1: it's like an unabashed just like you could just be
Speaker 1: at your most jovial and and frivolous. I love the
Speaker 1: Christmas frivolous. I really love that people are just like,
Speaker 1: what effort that we are together? That is the maximum
Speaker 1: amount of effort that needs to be put in. Didn't
Speaker 1: bring gift, doesn't matter, that's selfish, can't be looking for gifts,
Speaker 1: just like I love ELF. I love this movie so much.
Speaker 1: It's so corny and cheesy and just like silly. It's
Speaker 1: the best. Caitlin, what are we doing? I have a heart.
Speaker 1: I have a lump of coal where my heart should be.
Speaker 1: Also to shout out winter Souls, just again, that's the
Speaker 1: holiday that I saw the right and have celebrated since
Speaker 1: I was a teenager. Not to be a huge edge
Speaker 1: lord over here, but when I was a teen my
Speaker 1: I was raised as an atheist more or less and um,
Speaker 1: but we still like observed Christmas traditions and my not
Speaker 1: a Christian holiday. But at one point my mom was like,
Speaker 1: you know what, fuck it, We're not even celebrating Christmas anymore.
Speaker 1: We're going to celebrate Winter Solstice. And I love it. Yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: especially because most Christmas traditions in the sense of like
Speaker 1: putting up a tree and having a feast and exchanging
Speaker 1: gifts is a very that is just appropriated from the
Speaker 1: pagan celebrations of Winter Solstice. Again, not to be all
Speaker 1: edge lord about things, but my mom was like, you
Speaker 1: know what, We're going to celebrate four days earlier. We're
Speaker 1: gonna have a cool we're gonna have a nice time
Speaker 1: and fun Christmas. And I was like, great, sounds good
Speaker 1: to me. So I've been celebrating Winter Solstice ever since.
Speaker 1: They also used to do like a changing of like
Speaker 1: where where people would like laborers would get to be
Speaker 1: the boss for a day and would like get treated
Speaker 1: like that was like many different holidays throughout history. But
Speaker 1: the leftover version of that is like rich people pretend
Speaker 1: to be generous around around Christmas. That's like what we've got.
Speaker 1: Is this foreshadowing the Amazon charity story? Yeah, yeah, for sure. Alright,
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and then we'll come back
Speaker 1: and hear what you think is underrated And we're back,
Speaker 1: and Caitlin, you've already just shipped into our holiday hearts.
Speaker 1: Or if you're overrated, take that elf is overrated. But
Speaker 1: why don't you Why don't you tell us what what
Speaker 1: you think is underrated? Well, to continue talking about movies,
Speaker 1: I think a under an underrated movie also set at
Speaker 1: Christmas time is the movie Tangerine. It is set on
Speaker 1: Christmas Day. It's a fun romp and I really enjoy
Speaker 1: to check it out. If you haven't seen Tangerine, definitely
Speaker 1: watched Andreine. It's the classic. All right, let's talk about
Speaker 1: just where where we're at in the in the pandemic.
Speaker 1: There was SNL this weekend. Last weekend was weird. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like it's impossible to have another
Speaker 1: like and that's when I knew it was real moment
Speaker 1: anymore like we did with Tom Hanks in the NBA
Speaker 1: the first time around. But this was definitely like a
Speaker 1: weird moment because they didn't cancel it in time to
Speaker 1: not have a show. So it's just like the four
Speaker 1: most famous people came out and we're like hey, and
Speaker 1: then like laughing at each other's jokes in the background,
Speaker 1: but like there wasn't even enough crew to like laugh
Speaker 1: at people's jokes. And Tom Hanks was one of the
Speaker 1: ones there to remind us of that first one. Tom
Speaker 1: Hanks was like one of the first celebrities to get COVID.
Speaker 1: What are you doing here, sir? Go home? You're a
Speaker 1: national treasure. The hell is happening? Was one of the
Speaker 1: first to get it, or like one of the only
Speaker 1: ones who's like admitted he got it. I feel like
Speaker 1: happening to the public. He was one of the first
Speaker 1: ones where we were like, oh, no, we could lose
Speaker 1: Tom Hanks and that would be terrible, right, we haven't
Speaker 1: protected him at all costs. I don't understand what's happening. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately we didn't have to take it all in this
Speaker 1: weekend because the NBA seems to be pretending it's not
Speaker 1: real at this point. They're like, uh, yeah, we'll let
Speaker 1: Kyrie back in because we need extra bodies because everybody
Speaker 1: else has caught in COVID, has caught COVID cotton. Sorry.
Speaker 1: The NBA is like the perfect example of us learning
Speaker 1: our lesson and then being like, but we don't care.
Speaker 1: We could get the bubble and it was so perfect.
Speaker 1: It was so like full proof, like we got our games.
Speaker 1: They were good. They figured out how to like digitally
Speaker 1: bring in an audience. Advertisement didn't go anywhere. It was strong,
Speaker 1: and we finished the season. What happened was players missed
Speaker 1: to their families. Very that's fine, you're humans, you would
Speaker 1: be I get it. But for the NBA as it,
Speaker 1: they may be like, well, it's the only fine. For
Speaker 1: us to just be jumping across dates and across country
Speaker 1: lines when we have a full proof method that works
Speaker 1: that we know how to do, is bananas to me.
Speaker 1: I don't understand it. Yeah, for people who aren't like
Speaker 1: big NBA fans, Kyrie Irving was one of the only holdouts,
Speaker 1: the only people who was like, I would rather not
Speaker 1: play in the NBA as one of the greatest like
Speaker 1: shot makers in the history of the game. Him like
Speaker 1: just like pure like watching him play basketball, it's pure joy.
Speaker 1: He was like, I'd rather not do that. I'd rather
Speaker 1: just not get the vaccine. And oh, he's an anti
Speaker 1: factor and that's why. Yes, yeah, yeah, but like not
Speaker 1: he's like, no, I don't subscribe. It's very He's he's
Speaker 1: hard to categorize because he's not like, yeah, I subscribed
Speaker 1: to Q or anything. It's more he's one of those
Speaker 1: personal liberties people, Yeah, my body exactly, and just respect
Speaker 1: my opinion. So anyways, the Brooklyn Nets were like Okay,
Speaker 1: well you can't play them this season, and everyone was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: they did the right thing, and then over the pain
Speaker 1: in the past week as things have started getting really
Speaker 1: bad again, the nets were like, you know, we can't
Speaker 1: make money. Yeah, the cash needs to continue to flow in,
Speaker 1: so bring him back. So they brought they brought him back,
Speaker 1: and he promptly and you're never gonna believe this test
Speaker 1: of positive for COVID, and so the price so As
Speaker 1: did like their best, like one of the three best
Speaker 1: players in the league who plays for them, Kevin Durant,
Speaker 1: But the whole NBA is going down. Kevin dur has
Speaker 1: another one who's like not a spring chicken, what is happening?
Speaker 1: But but, but the the entire the Bulls had to
Speaker 1: take like a full week down because too many of
Speaker 1: their players had COVID for them to continue, they couldn't play.
Speaker 1: There are not no players eligible to play and we're
Speaker 1: still just like Broadways had to close down some shows.
Speaker 1: They were like, it's too many sick people. I just
Speaker 1: don't know how much longer we can be Like, no,
Speaker 1: it's fine, it's yeah, Like the the award for just
Speaker 1: uh the most head up their own ass response was
Speaker 1: the NFL. You're again, you'd be surprised to hear this.
Speaker 1: The NFL like delayed a game by like two days.
Speaker 1: Like remember when we left the office, and we're like,
Speaker 1: all right, so we'll all get on I don't know,
Speaker 1: like an email, I guess, I don't know how else
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk to each other from home. We all
Speaker 1: email each other on Friday and decide if we're gonna
Speaker 1: come back next week, and then like cut to two
Speaker 1: years later at the holiday party, and we're like walking
Speaker 1: in and seeing like our desks exactly like we left
Speaker 1: them that time. That's what the NFL is still doing.
Speaker 1: They're like, yeah, we're gonna just like push bump this
Speaker 1: back to Monday, by which point things should have cooled down.
Speaker 1: So anyways, but it's NFL. Yeah, the raspberries that we
Speaker 1: left in the fridge, they'll be fine because we'll be
Speaker 1: back two days later and no big deal. Yeah, So anyways,
Speaker 1: I am seeing this like in other sort of more
Speaker 1: official places, you know, there are big d democrats who
Speaker 1: are now like rejecting the protective steps and like laws
Speaker 1: being passed restrict behavior and protect public health. It just
Speaker 1: feels like there's a general mainstreaming of the uh like
Speaker 1: fuck the government and these precautions response to everyone's general
Speaker 1: exhaustion with like the back and forth of the virus,
Speaker 1: which is again the back and forth is like something
Speaker 1: they were you know, they used that poetic metaphor that
Speaker 1: they really fell in love with, like the hammer and
Speaker 1: the dance. People really liked that. But that was the idea,
Speaker 1: is that like you're gonna have to like shut things
Speaker 1: down and then slowly like come out and then shut
Speaker 1: things down again when things get bad. But people are
Speaker 1: getting mad at the idea that we have to close
Speaker 1: down again. Brian's delter Ak the Bald Guy on CNN.
Speaker 1: It was basically like why should we shut down if
Speaker 1: the average vaccinated person isn't going to get that sick.
Speaker 1: He was interviewing a health expert from the Atlantic and
Speaker 1: she was like, oh, well, you know not everyone's vaccinated,
Speaker 1: and he like interrupted, was like, yeah, well they screwed up.
Speaker 1: He's a pretty radical thing to say, nap, Yeah, more
Speaker 1: people will die, so what is their fault? Is a
Speaker 1: very childish like way to play with lives. It's a
Speaker 1: lot of those people are gonna be doctors, and doctors
Speaker 1: who are like already, like you know, it's just like
Speaker 1: such a really like completely narrow and like hasn't experienced
Speaker 1: this up close in any way like perspective where his
Speaker 1: vision of people who are vaccinated and responsible are him
Speaker 1: and like his friends who work at the New York
Speaker 1: Times and like other like media outlets in New York,
Speaker 1: and then like the people who aren't vaccinated. He's like
Speaker 1: picturing you know, Facebook groups, but it's like no, this
Speaker 1: it's not neat, like it doesn't cut down easily like that.
Speaker 1: And she, uh, the health expert was like, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: but they're kids who are unvaccinated. There are all the
Speaker 1: He was like, oh, I meant adults. I was only
Speaker 1: talking about adults. It's like, oh, but like does the
Speaker 1: are you gonna tell the virus that like that's all
Speaker 1: you meant because that's like kind of not how it
Speaker 1: work is my problem. It's also you know again me know, compromised,
Speaker 1: Like it's just so many very innocent people who are
Speaker 1: just trying to get through life. And it's also like
Speaker 1: if if we are able to go back into quarantine,
Speaker 1: we can stop the spread faster, like the the idea
Speaker 1: that like oh well, the like it's then it's still happening, though,
Speaker 1: it's still something we all have to deal with. It
Speaker 1: makes so much more sense to be like, what if
Speaker 1: we just again three months, three months, pay the people
Speaker 1: who can't afford to work and just and then we
Speaker 1: could better assess and deal with the problem afterwards. And
Speaker 1: it's so strange for us as a country to just
Speaker 1: have to like voluntarily, I'm starting to see people like
Speaker 1: I had I think four friends in the last like
Speaker 1: two or three days were like, oh, I have COVID,
Speaker 1: you know, thank goodness, I'm vascinated or whatever. But I'm
Speaker 1: definitely like I've canceled off your like party plans and
Speaker 1: no longer going out, back to pods, back to you know,
Speaker 1: just what we understand to be as safe as possible.
Speaker 1: And I just think it makes sense to sort of
Speaker 1: lean into that theory as opposed to I want to
Speaker 1: go back to the way things used to be. I
Speaker 1: have no desire to go back to the way things
Speaker 1: used to be. And we have to wrap our heads
Speaker 1: around the fact that, like things have to change going forward,
Speaker 1: we can't go backwards, Like wouldn't it be easier this
Speaker 1: time around that we like we got accustomed to lockdown
Speaker 1: and like we and sure it wasn't ideal, like no
Speaker 1: one wants to live this way, but what's the alternative?
Speaker 1: Maybe dying like that doesn't sound great either, But yeah,
Speaker 1: if it's fascinating to me. People's reluctance to just like
Speaker 1: play it safe and play it smart for a shorter
Speaker 1: amount of time versus just elongating this whole like again
Speaker 1: like the going back, like, oh, things are slightly better,
Speaker 1: so we can open up, but putting up made things
Speaker 1: worse again, so now we have to lock back down.
Speaker 1: And it's like we wouldn't have to like Teeter Totter
Speaker 1: in this way if we just like could commit to
Speaker 1: the I'm such a homebody already, and so you know,
Speaker 1: in the interest of like extending grace to everyone, I
Speaker 1: completely understand some people are like this is untenable. If
Speaker 1: I have to be inside my own dwelling for another
Speaker 1: like week, I will just explode from this being inside nous.
Speaker 1: Like some people are just really want to be out
Speaker 1: in the world, and that's like they're happy state is
Speaker 1: just being out, whether that's you know, in nature and
Speaker 1: city or wherever. So I have some grace for being
Speaker 1: like I'm done with this. I want it to be over,
Speaker 1: and especially if you're a person who's done quote unquote
Speaker 1: everything in the right way, then it's like, how I
Speaker 1: can't do anything more than what I've done to like
Speaker 1: get back out there. But I also think, like, we're
Speaker 1: all going through it together, and if you can, if
Speaker 1: you're one of those people, if you can just be like,
Speaker 1: if we just try as many of us to do
Speaker 1: it the right way together, then hopefully things will end.
Speaker 1: See in her, I know it's frustrating seeing people like
Speaker 1: just not care and not have to suffer consequences. It's
Speaker 1: a small group of people, but they're out there and
Speaker 1: that's frustrating. But you know, we're all we're all going
Speaker 1: through it together conceivably, so we just just push a
Speaker 1: little bit harder. Yeah. The thing I'm I've run out
Speaker 1: of patients with is, uh, these dang doctors telling me
Speaker 1: to wear masks. No, the people the people who are
Speaker 1: like anti mask at this point, and like like that
Speaker 1: really seems to be the thing that we've gotten the
Speaker 1: most casual with is like people just like I don't know,
Speaker 1: they show up to a thing with a mask and
Speaker 1: then like take it off and it's just like what
Speaker 1: you're not that doesn't that's not how it works. That's
Speaker 1: that's not the thing. The masks. You're supposed to keep
Speaker 1: the masks on. Yeah, just do it. Yeah, all right, Well,
Speaker 1: let's talk about the man who is going to save
Speaker 1: us from all of this. That is Jeff, Jeff, you bezos.
Speaker 1: You might have seeing these, I know I have like
Speaker 1: the it's like Amazon Smile, which allows people to donate
Speaker 1: to charity without the added hassle of donating to charity
Speaker 1: like this is a scam and and scams are usually illegal. No, no, okay,
Speaker 1: I know this is Amazon doing something out of the
Speaker 1: goodness of their warm corporate heart. So they will donate
Speaker 1: point five percent of the purchase price of something that
Speaker 1: you buy to a charity of your choice. And almost
Speaker 1: a million charitable organizations have partnered with Amazon Smile, which
Speaker 1: you may recognizes way too many charitable organizations to vet.
Speaker 1: So as of was reported that Amazon Smile had raised
Speaker 1: more than two fifteen million dollars for charity since it began,
Speaker 1: which it died like it it seems low, Like that
Speaker 1: sounds great for like a community ex sale, but anything
Speaker 1: involving Amazon. That is a third of what Amazon makes
Speaker 1: every day. That is. That is what they've pulled together
Speaker 1: since seven freaking years. And they're also making headlines this
Speaker 1: week or in the past couple of weeks for reportedly
Speaker 1: donating to anti vax or groups. So and remember that
Speaker 1: the consumer doesn't like donate anything Amazon Like. The money
Speaker 1: just goes into a fund that Amazon then chooses like
Speaker 1: who it goes to. And they were like, ah, we
Speaker 1: got it, antivax or groups? What that is? Okay? Sorry,
Speaker 1: just to compare what that two million is, that's like
Speaker 1: a Marvel movie and a half. Yeah that in seven years? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I Amazon, we have to We have talked about a
Speaker 1: lot of things. Sweetie. I don't understand where is the money?
Speaker 1: This is people need to just go Jeffy, like, where's
Speaker 1: this money? What are you doing with it? Because it's
Speaker 1: not going to your workers, it's not going to improve
Speaker 1: your factories. You have whole factories without an air conditioning unit.
Speaker 1: You sell those on your site. What's the problem, Jeff.
Speaker 1: We gotta square up with Jeff. We gotta start calling
Speaker 1: him out. He has to be uncomfortable wherever he goes.
Speaker 1: Just like, excuse me, sir, it's not cool. It's not
Speaker 1: cool for you to buy up a block of real
Speaker 1: estate and make a mega mansion in a community. It's weird.
Speaker 1: It's not a mansion. Community is just a regular city
Speaker 1: block in Boston. You shouldn't be here. You have Yes,
Speaker 1: he took two mansions and made it one super mansion. Um,
Speaker 1: because he's Jeff, he'll be in the house probably two
Speaker 1: weeks out of the year. What is going on? I
Speaker 1: hate Jeff Bezos like a passion. What are you doing?
Speaker 1: So you might have seen these like little it's like
Speaker 1: three pictures side by side. It looks like it's, you know,
Speaker 1: more articles you may enjoy, like underneath the New York
Speaker 1: Times article reading it's actually like a ad for Amazon Smile.
Speaker 1: The pictures usually make it look like Amazon Smile is
Speaker 1: helping kids animals and kids holding animals as far as
Speaker 1: I can tell, like that's it's like a cute puppy
Speaker 1: kids in a classroom and then a child holding a
Speaker 1: baby goat. But they, yeah, just garbage organizations on their
Speaker 1: capital storming white supremacist group the Oath Keepers. You get
Speaker 1: some money. More than forty organizations listed on the Amazon
Speaker 1: small platform publicly opposed lgbt Q rights and equality, including
Speaker 1: the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association, which is run by his
Speaker 1: son who's called Islam evil and claimed that Satan is
Speaker 1: the architect of same sex marriage. So there, you know,
Speaker 1: and then on top of all this, like people have
Speaker 1: done the search and found that when people, you know,
Speaker 1: see check off the box like Okay, I am gonna
Speaker 1: make this Amazon purchase through Amazon Smile, like there is
Speaker 1: something gets lit up in their brain and it makes
Speaker 1: them feel good, which sure, like everybody needs to feel
Speaker 1: good about something right now, but like it's first of all,
Speaker 1: going to these horror, horrifying organizations, and it's so little
Speaker 1: is going to these horrifying organizations. It's not you funding it,
Speaker 1: it's Amazon funding it, so they get the right off.
Speaker 1: And also it's making people less likely to give to
Speaker 1: other organizations, like other charitable organizations. They're like, I donated
Speaker 1: point five percent of my forty Amazon purchase, so I've
Speaker 1: done my due diligence this holiday season to be charitable. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like yeah, but it does, like that's is how
Speaker 1: the human brain works, and they're taking advantage of it.
Speaker 1: By the way, they also came out that in one
Speaker 1: of the nonprofits participating in Amazon Smile was a project Veritas,
Speaker 1: just like do you not care? What do I wonder
Speaker 1: what the criteria? Like, how do you become a part
Speaker 1: of Amazon smile? Is it one of those things where
Speaker 1: it's like you could just register here, become apart in
Speaker 1: like we'll donate five percent people's purchases or is it curated?
Speaker 1: It seems like it should be curated, right, It's well
Speaker 1: someone again, because we know how our corporations work. We
Speaker 1: know that it's so much easier for them to just
Speaker 1: be like just put it on a list and go
Speaker 1: as someone to actually sit here and verify this stuff.
Speaker 1: That's time and money we are not willing to spend.
Speaker 1: We have it, We're not going to do it, So
Speaker 1: it doesn't It wouldn't surprise me if that was the case.
Speaker 1: But yet someone absolutely should be verifying way because then
Speaker 1: you could literally be anyone. This is so wild to me.
Speaker 1: I don't I've never used Amazon SMALLab. I don't think
Speaker 1: because they it's always when I'm like, why are you
Speaker 1: going through third party when you could directly donate you know, folks?
Speaker 1: Or what it works is that you, you, as the consumer,
Speaker 1: allocate which charity your point five of your purchase value
Speaker 1: goes toward, which I guess is a little bit better
Speaker 1: than like you having no say over it. But if
Speaker 1: every charity imaginable has access to receive funds from this Amazon,
Speaker 1: then it also defeats the purpose. Yeah, and not only
Speaker 1: like people are pointing out that it like makes our
Speaker 1: brain chemicals light up and make us think we've done something.
Speaker 1: Let's not let Amazon think they're doing a good thing
Speaker 1: by doing this. Ship, like, don't don't participating in this
Speaker 1: and let Amazon feel like we're really and this is
Speaker 1: why our logo is a smile, because we helped by
Speaker 1: indiscriminately just like spraying money at anyone who claims that
Speaker 1: they're fucking nonprofit, like not even a full day's worth
Speaker 1: of money. Yeah, no, no, no, no, no no. They
Speaker 1: this is them like using the rounding error that happens
Speaker 1: when they let people go to the bathroom, Like they're like,
Speaker 1: you lose this much money every time someone peas, and
Speaker 1: they're like, all right, well we'll give that much money
Speaker 1: away to charity. So yeah, So again I'm gonna say Amazon,
Speaker 1: not that not not great company. Mhm doesn't know what
Speaker 1: a tornado warning is, so company pretty ship. Yeah, alright,
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and uh, we'll come back
Speaker 1: and talk about some great holiday gift ideas. And we're back.
Speaker 1: And you know, before we started recording, Caitlin Joel, you
Speaker 1: guys were both like, what I I can use some
Speaker 1: gift ideas, specifically gifts that have an anti five G
Speaker 1: message to them. Uh. Yeah. So the anti five G
Speaker 1: movement has been going on, like even before the pandemic,
Speaker 1: but it was you know, mostly boring people didn't really
Speaker 1: have to care that much. But it started really ramping up.
Speaker 1: In one, conspiracy theorists you know, lashed onto the idea
Speaker 1: that five G caused COVID, which it's it seems weird
Speaker 1: that that they were like, oh yeah, that one, Like
Speaker 1: they just they were just looking for waiting around and
Speaker 1: then matched the two their conspiracy theory of choice to
Speaker 1: the biggest bad thing happening at a given moment. People
Speaker 1: are like, oh, damn, that does make sense, uh, instead
Speaker 1: of wow, that seems weirdly opportunistic and like it doesn't
Speaker 1: make any sense since the things that you were warning
Speaker 1: us would happen when you were concerned about it in
Speaker 1: the first place, where not a viral pandemic. As far
Speaker 1: as I can tell. But so one thing that I
Speaker 1: have to warn you guys about, since it does seem
Speaker 1: like I can't stop you guys from going out and
Speaker 1: buying Anti five G merchandise for people you're buying holiday
Speaker 1: winter Solstice gifts for, is that there's been this boom
Speaker 1: and Anti five G merchandise that and some of them
Speaker 1: themselves are emitting low levels of radiation the products. There's
Speaker 1: radiation in the Anti five G. So when you're protecting
Speaker 1: yourself from imaginary race, you're actually slowly killing yourself with
Speaker 1: a buffottled because they they're serious about protecting you from
Speaker 1: those rays and the only way to protect you from
Speaker 1: those raises with other rays. Unfortunately, those rays aren't real,
Speaker 1: but the other rays are. So you're actually, you know, dude,
Speaker 1: looking at some of these products. It's a wild So
Speaker 1: one is a like a baby wrap bump things, so
Speaker 1: it's like a wrap that goes around a pregnant woman's stomach.
Speaker 1: We've got an umbrella. Yeah, you're just carrying around an
Speaker 1: umbrella all the time. Very goth of you. Um here's
Speaker 1: my real problem. Listen. They used to like die things
Speaker 1: green with arsenic right, creating a beautiful green color spectacular dresses, watches,
Speaker 1: you name it, you could get it in this green.
Speaker 1: I respect people who were vat which literally would like
Speaker 1: dissolve your skin and give you like horrible sores and stuff,
Speaker 1: because at least the product you're getting most beautiful. And
Speaker 1: why am I looking? These are all you would not
Speaker 1: want to wear or hold or be associated with literally
Speaker 1: any of these products. The Quantum pendant, I've got to admit,
Speaker 1: is pretty handsome. That's no no. When you're getting better,
Speaker 1: go get a witcher like necklace Deckie Wolf, Oh my goodness,
Speaker 1: but don't five g on me with it. Don't tread
Speaker 1: on me flags like honestly. Yeah. So there's also the
Speaker 1: one the products that don't emit radiation, so they have
Speaker 1: that going for him. But there's one featuring a it
Speaker 1: says five G tower versus horsepower, and it has a
Speaker 1: car like using a chain I guess to pull down
Speaker 1: a cell cell phone tower, which was the thing that
Speaker 1: was happening while back, and it is a good way
Speaker 1: to get put in jail. And people who buy this
Speaker 1: are the same folks that have like the Calvin and
Speaker 1: Hobbs peeing on whatever car emoji they've been like, that's
Speaker 1: not fair to the people who have the Calvin Hobbs
Speaker 1: peeing on. I think it's sweeping relation people. What is
Speaker 1: going on? Oh man, oh man, I imagine I just
Speaker 1: want more of these people who have woken up from
Speaker 1: this kind of crazy stuff, who believed in the five
Speaker 1: G or we're part of Q and on, like the
Speaker 1: stories of people being like and then I woke up
Speaker 1: and was like, oh, it's I crazy for six months?
Speaker 1: How did this happen? In the unrattling of it? It's
Speaker 1: the Internet is a wild thing that's still so much
Speaker 1: in its infancy, and clearly we're learning the power it
Speaker 1: can quickly like take ahold of an entire community of
Speaker 1: people and they can believe essentially whatever, like no fact
Speaker 1: checking or backing up, or worse, the places they go
Speaker 1: to get their facts are not accredited, and you kind
Speaker 1: of get consumed in a wormhole of that stuff. It is.
Speaker 1: I how can you think that five G which almost
Speaker 1: everyone is around everyone like you have a phone? I
Speaker 1: And how are we doing, Joel? How are we doing?
Speaker 1: We're all all around it? How how's everyone feeling? You know?
Speaker 1: Thank you? I like I've been pretty aware of like
Speaker 1: the stuff that was in that whatever that documentary was
Speaker 1: about how bad social networks are for us, and the
Speaker 1: Netflix one yeah designed it, who were like I'd never
Speaker 1: let my kids use it. I'm like, yeah, I think
Speaker 1: there's also you know, so there's like that is the
Speaker 1: mechanical way of how it's getting like the bad information
Speaker 1: to us. I just also think that like broadly, there's
Speaker 1: like bad ship happening in the background that like is
Speaker 1: worse and like more damaging to our like underlying mental
Speaker 1: health than we had realized. And and like suddenly we're
Speaker 1: seeing you know, some of the some of these products. Sorry,
Speaker 1: like you mentioned it's like a a umbrella or a
Speaker 1: hat that like blocks out the bad five G beams
Speaker 1: and like it's a popular purchase, a tinfoil hat. Like
Speaker 1: that's where we're seeing. We're seeing the popularization of tin
Speaker 1: foil hats, and like this is you know that we
Speaker 1: are seeing what what it is to be in a
Speaker 1: world that is like you know, governed by a system
Speaker 1: and like fully like kind of swallowed by you know,
Speaker 1: this capitalist sort of paradigm that is very bad for
Speaker 1: our mental health, Like where we've like had all of
Speaker 1: their human relationships now mediated by corporations, trying to extract
Speaker 1: value from us, like you know, whether it's like romantic
Speaker 1: or familial, or you know, just any sort of context
Speaker 1: that used to be humanizing and allow us to have
Speaker 1: a break from thinking of everything as like a zero
Speaker 1: sum game of like winner take all, like has been
Speaker 1: kind of invaded by this. It's like a spread of cancer,
Speaker 1: and I just I don't know, I think we're going
Speaker 1: to keep seeing this even even like after they make
Speaker 1: like specific like changes so that to try and like
Speaker 1: curb misinformation or disinformation. Like I still think that we're
Speaker 1: in a bad place, just as people like we're at
Speaker 1: a month mentally and spiritually unhealthy places like a as
Speaker 1: a civilization that hopefully we can come back from. But
Speaker 1: this is so like one thing that I used to
Speaker 1: say a lot that I wanted to kind of officially revises.
Speaker 1: I would like when talking about history and like all
Speaker 1: the horrifying ship that happened in history, I would say that,
Speaker 1: like history is like a nightmare that we're all waking
Speaker 1: up from. And I think that's true and very specific cases.
Speaker 1: But I also think that it assumes that this is
Speaker 1: like some of the ship that we were told growing
Speaker 1: up that like this is the best time to be alive.
Speaker 1: And this is the best, you know, and I don't
Speaker 1: know that this is the healthiest Like that that is
Speaker 1: true based on the very specific like value set, like
Speaker 1: materialist value set that we like we're judging it by
Speaker 1: the values that currently governed the world. So yeah, of course,
Speaker 1: like we have more stuff than we used to, but
Speaker 1: there's just a injustice to the world and a in
Speaker 1: humanity to how we're treated and how we even think
Speaker 1: of ourselves that I think is really unhealthy and like
Speaker 1: makes it a pretty difficult time to be alive. That's
Speaker 1: bleak out there. I think the best era in history
Speaker 1: was pre cars to era, right right before our cars
Speaker 1: to it. We're really innocent. Then here's a different It's
Speaker 1: a simpler time, more connected as a society. We all
Speaker 1: got along. Yeah, well that was before Mader could really
Speaker 1: realize like what he could do, like as you know,
Speaker 1: with his charms, with his wiles. It's so true. Anyways, Well, guys,
Speaker 1: it's always so great to talk to you both. Caitlin.
Speaker 1: Where can people find you and follow you? You can
Speaker 1: find me and follow me on Instagram and Twitter, you know,
Speaker 1: the social media platforms that were the best that I
Speaker 1: advertise every day on my that really help with all
Speaker 1: of our collective mental health health. You can follow health
Speaker 1: and the more follow ours I get, the happier I'll be,
Speaker 1: so follow me there at Caitlin Durante. You can also
Speaker 1: check out my podcast that I co host with Jamie Loftus,
Speaker 1: where we might be having a live show in January
Speaker 1: in San Francisco, but also probably not. Who can say,
Speaker 1: but that is available to listen to safely from the
Speaker 1: comfort of your own home. And it's called The Bechtel
Speaker 1: Cast and we analyze movies through an intersectional feminist lens.
Speaker 1: And new episodes of that drop every Thursday and you
Speaker 1: can follow us on Instagram and Twitter at Bechtel Cast
Speaker 1: for more information. Is there a tweet or some of
Speaker 1: the work of social media you've been enjoying, so everyone
Speaker 1: should follow at Jay the Chow or j the Cho
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what the pronunciation is, but this person
Speaker 1: photoshop Paddington into a frame from a movie or TV
Speaker 1: show every single day, So check that out at j
Speaker 1: A Y the c h O you for some amazing
Speaker 1: Paddington's content. Yeah, alright, I I'm following them right now.
Speaker 1: And where can people find you will follow you yallow me.
Speaker 1: I'm Joel Mony can can find me all over the internet.
Speaker 1: At uelmo Ni gets j O E l e E
Speaker 1: m O n I q u E. I've been enjoying
Speaker 1: a couple of tweets. The first one is from at
Speaker 1: Wonder Underscore Phoenix. It is simply a screenshot from Weier
Speaker 1: season two, which I am obsessed with. And it's what
Speaker 1: you're saying. I've lived through a whole dark ages and
Speaker 1: three supposed end of days and someone was like me
Speaker 1: during this pandemic and I identify, yes, absolutely, it's never ending.
Speaker 1: And then the other one, Sony tweeted out a picture
Speaker 1: Spider Man from their newly released Spider Man movie. It's
Speaker 1: a hey, you've got Peter Parker for secret Standard. What
Speaker 1: are you getting him? And someone said, who the fund
Speaker 1: is Peter Parker? And have you seen the movie? You know?
Speaker 1: And if you haven't, go see the fucking movie. It's
Speaker 1: so good? Is it really good? Now? It's so if
Speaker 1: you if you like Spider Man, it's good. All right.
Speaker 1: Let me just say, at this late point in the show,
Speaker 1: what a bad podcast host I am? I have the
Speaker 1: Marvel Defender and one of the biggest uh into the
Speaker 1: Spider Verse fans out there on this podcast the literally
Speaker 1: the day after the New Spider Man movie, which breaking, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and just broke like all fucking box office records. Let's
Speaker 1: give you some I can give you stats before. Let's
Speaker 1: do just five minutes from you guys and talk stats
Speaker 1: on the on yesterday's trending episode. But so you guys
Speaker 1: both liked it, Yes, so good. Three million dollars domestic.
Speaker 1: It's the third biggest ever December release ever, biggest December
Speaker 1: release ever. Global did eight seven million, three biggest worldwide
Speaker 1: opening ever. Without releasing in China, it would be the
Speaker 1: box office totals for shuan Chi, Black Widow, Eternals, Venom.
Speaker 1: It's opening weekend. M Yeah, it's no big deal. It
Speaker 1: is a banger of Oh my god. I don't want
Speaker 1: to give any spoilers because it's still early, but from like,
Speaker 1: if you're a comics person, one of the cool things
Speaker 1: about comics is sometimes you'll get like a guest artist
Speaker 1: to jump in and if you've seen Dr Strange, you
Speaker 1: know that's like a very specific visual language and it's
Speaker 1: married into the Spider Man franchise so beautifully. Tom Holland
Speaker 1: is kicking ass and I really enjoyed it. Sindaa's honestly
Speaker 1: the only movie started her generation. It's just her out
Speaker 1: here running laps around everybody else, being like, how is
Speaker 1: her range so wide? And she can do all of it.
Speaker 1: It's incredible. And she's just playing like a regular high
Speaker 1: school kid here, but she's doing it. You've seen her
Speaker 1: playing like a married woman in like a domestically violent relationship.
Speaker 1: You've seen her play like a kid with drug addiction
Speaker 1: issues who's really struggling to like find herself. And then
Speaker 1: she comes in here and she just she aces all
Speaker 1: of it and it's so good in this cast. I
Speaker 1: love it. What do you think, Caitlin? I also liked it.
Speaker 1: I thought the way again not no spoilers here, but
Speaker 1: the way that they handles Spider Man stopping stopped, no
Speaker 1: spoilers here. The way that the heroes approach dealing with
Speaker 1: the villains is a very fast It's like, very fascinating.
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed that. The And and if I can
Speaker 1: channel Jamie Loftus for a second, Alfred Molina is in
Speaker 1: the movie, and that's not a spoiler trailer trailer um
Speaker 1: and you'll you'll you'll laugh, you'll cry, you'll feel your feelings.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of fun. Grown men let out audible sobs.
Speaker 1: The first time I saw this, like and appropriately so
Speaker 1: it was so so good. And then Willem Dafoe. If
Speaker 1: you guys have seen the original Spider Man, you know
Speaker 1: that he played the Green Goblin and it was really
Speaker 1: good and kind of scary, and it's will Im freaking
Speaker 1: to foe. He's talented, but he's pushed that character so
Speaker 1: far in this movie. It's really an opportunity for redemption
Speaker 1: for a ton of people to be like, you know,
Speaker 1: I could do better, and they him, and they did better.
Speaker 1: They did so good. I just I've seen this movie
Speaker 1: twice now I'm honestly looking forward to seeing it a
Speaker 1: third time. It's worth it in three D if you're
Speaker 1: the kind of person who can handle and like three D.
Speaker 1: It's very subtly done, which I think it is hard
Speaker 1: for that kind of restraint in the movie where someone's
Speaker 1: literally swimming through buildings, you want to go all out,
Speaker 1: but it's so subtle and beautiful and amazing. I just
Speaker 1: thought in regular IMAX that was great. If you're going
Speaker 1: to brave, going to a movie, you know, double mask up,
Speaker 1: maybe trying not to eat or drink during if you can,
Speaker 1: and then just really take in the big picture of
Speaker 1: everything because it's chef gets beautiful. But also Disney Plus
Speaker 1: is bringing these things to streaming so fast. Maybe not
Speaker 1: this one because it earns so much and they'll probably
Speaker 1: expect you to continue to earn. But don't feel bad
Speaker 1: about waiting either. It'll be on streaming soon enough. So good,
Speaker 1: so good, alright, so thumbs one thumb, one thumb down right,
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, alright on that subject. A tweet I've
Speaker 1: been enjoying us from Ben Joseph at Jen Bosef tweeted
Speaker 1: the box office numbers at Movie Numbers and it said
Speaker 1: Friday estimates Spider Man No Way Home one point five million,
Speaker 1: in conto one point six five million, Nightmare Alley one
Speaker 1: point one nine million, said great news for Disney, but
Speaker 1: tough night for Disney and Disney because Disney owns everything
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