Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to fifteen, episode
Speaker 1: five of The Daily Like Guys production of by Heart Radio.
Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we take a deep dive
Speaker 1: into America's share consciousness. Than it is Friday, December seventeen,
Speaker 1: twenty one, which means that you know it is national
Speaker 1: My Brother's Day, National Right Brothers Day? Yeah, well, I
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Speaker 1: ugly Christmas Sweater Day, that makes more sense, and National
Speaker 1: Maple Scissor Day as well. Oh they specified scissor. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: back Dick, though it is a reference to me saying
Speaker 1: this is where I don't even remember what we talked
Speaker 1: about on the show, but I'm pretty sure I suggested
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Speaker 1: images not talking about my there it is, Well, Miles
Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to be joined as always by you. It's
Speaker 1: Miles Gray a k A. You know, as I'm known
Speaker 1: in Japan. So I just wanted to give you know,
Speaker 1: six Jack was handing all with his legal name. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna hit you with my international name, so shout out
Speaker 1: to Japan and you up with like two names basically
Speaker 1: your Japanese I mean, you know, because Japanese, like the
Speaker 1: alphabet is all syllable, so there's no way a Japanese
Speaker 1: person is gonna say Miles. So we we have to
Speaker 1: use the alphabet that we have. So it breaks down
Speaker 1: to my utu or my uses like people. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't do the ten thing on it. I go
Speaker 1: for Sue, not Sup. But that's a personal decision. So
Speaker 1: I was using to call like my was sort of
Speaker 1: like my grandparents. Auntie's uncle's kind of saying that kind
Speaker 1: of thing. Our boys have Korean names that were selected
Speaker 1: by their Korean school, so but I think we're gonna
Speaker 1: stick with them. Is that is there is there a
Speaker 1: process like wouldn't wouldn't like your you're your family like us,
Speaker 1: like you're dead, But it wasn't there like a person
Speaker 1: who decides the name. Yeah, we just didn't bother until
Speaker 1: they started Korean school and then they were like, all right,
Speaker 1: well we'll we'll pick them for you. Okay, what are
Speaker 1: their names? And they're very very cute. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: my kids names on Wow podcast. You want saying my
Speaker 1: kids Korean names on the Yeah, they're cute though, Suti
Speaker 1: and Tuna. Okay, Okay, Well, my we are thrilled, fortunate,
Speaker 1: and blessed to be joined in our third seat by
Speaker 1: one of the smartest people I know. She's a producer
Speaker 1: here in my Heart l a podcast studio, helping to
Speaker 1: create shows like Fake Doctor's Real Friends. She's a fabulous
Speaker 1: writer who you can read a Vulture, the A B
Speaker 1: Club Team, vot Paste, The Advocate, many more. She is
Speaker 1: the brilliant, the talented Joe Almony. I'm back in the
Speaker 1: house still, the Marvel Defender is so excited to be
Speaker 1: here today. How are you guys doing great? You have
Speaker 1: a new microphone and it is it is covering your
Speaker 1: eyes as though you are you had you had it
Speaker 1: over one eye and you look like like fury. At
Speaker 1: one point it was covering both eyes and you looked like,
Speaker 1: you know, a witness on a special that is like
Speaker 1: trying to cover up their identity. But they're they're just
Speaker 1: like doing a real half past job. You know, it's
Speaker 1: hard when your brother edits the show because if you
Speaker 1: don't record right, you're gonna hear about it, hear about it.
Speaker 1: So I'm trying to get the mic right. You know,
Speaker 1: now that I got the professional mic, Like I've been
Speaker 1: podcasting for eight years or something, I just got a
Speaker 1: real mike. This is crazy. I'm gonna try to hold
Speaker 1: it here so I can make eye contact. No, don't
Speaker 1: do whatever I thought it was. It was fun. It
Speaker 1: was fun. Yeah, well, we were thrilled to have you back.
Speaker 1: How are you doing? How have you been since the
Speaker 1: last you checked in? Was that gay Friday? One day?
Speaker 1: Was that? You know? For business folks, it's que for
Speaker 1: so everyone needs everything right this minute. Don't not later,
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Speaker 1: Do not do that other work, because their work is
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Speaker 1: The actions are helping. Can you record this had three
Speaker 1: days ago? I can't. I'm not a time traveler unsofinitely
Speaker 1: damn it. Someone said you might be as a as
Speaker 1: a minor podcast Celebrita if I can, if I call
Speaker 1: myself that. Also, other networks are now bringing me up
Speaker 1: and being like, so our regulars are not available, will
Speaker 1: you come slide in and help us? And I'm like,
Speaker 1: this is what I've been asking for all year. It
Speaker 1: would be weird if I said no. But I just
Speaker 1: don't sleep now. I went to bed it like eleven.
Speaker 1: I was up at three. It's fine, listen, We're gonna
Speaker 1: get all of it done and it's gonna be great.
Speaker 1: And you know, I got the things I asked for,
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna just rebel in that manifestation. I get
Speaker 1: your work, Get your work. Yes, yes, all right, Joel.
Speaker 1: We are going to get to know you a little
Speaker 1: bit better in a moment. First, we're gonna tell our
Speaker 1: listeners a few of the things we're talking about. We're
Speaker 1: gonna check in with a macron because it seems like
Speaker 1: it's been spreading fast relief for one day. Uh and
Speaker 1: this this damn pandemic. What I do once again, what
Speaker 1: would you do? Miles? So we'll just talk about, you know,
Speaker 1: the latest on that. It's kind of a lot of
Speaker 1: the same. But we're gonna talk about the new West
Speaker 1: Side story getting raves but did not bring in Bafo
Speaker 1: b Oh. So we're gonna ask why is that? Because
Speaker 1: the right they have some answers for us, they have
Speaker 1: some guesses, And we are gonna talk about the conspiracy
Speaker 1: behind David Bowie's forgotten video game A Macron the Nomad
Speaker 1: Soul that came out a lot of people forgot. We
Speaker 1: did not, and we like the truth yea, to the
Speaker 1: to the future, all that plenty more. But first, Joel,
Speaker 1: we like to ask our guests, what is something from
Speaker 1: your search history? Tell far plump feel words don't mean
Speaker 1: anything to you, Miles, and Miles is aware height Beef
Speaker 1: and through Miles only become a hype beast because he
Speaker 1: taught Justin about stuff and now I'm learning about the stuff. Okay, Sorry,
Speaker 1: who's gonna defend? First of all, just sorry, Justin very
Speaker 1: much is his own hype beast. Yeah, like the seven
Speaker 1: Days off Light after Virgil passed and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: keep it up, super producer justin. I just buy us.
Speaker 1: Uh Saint Virgil pins that I'm really excited about. It's
Speaker 1: like the Saint Hood with like Louis Baton symbols. It's
Speaker 1: really cute. Any who tell fire plump? Okay, So if
Speaker 1: y'all don't know, tell Far is really cool. Uh comes
Speaker 1: from a guy named how Far. He's like beer, an American.
Speaker 1: He designs handbags. He calls them like shopping bags. They
Speaker 1: sort of look like plastic bags almost. They like just
Speaker 1: your classic handbag too. Loop handles, one big shoulder handle,
Speaker 1: big t e sim bowl in the center. They're simple,
Speaker 1: but they're classy. They come in every color. But the
Speaker 1: cool thing about them if they're like listen, we can't
Speaker 1: be bothered with weight listing, and we don't feel like
Speaker 1: our bags should cost eighty thousand dollars. That's ridiculous, So
Speaker 1: we will always sell our bags for the same price.
Speaker 1: It is first come first, so don't call us beforehand.
Speaker 1: We're not sitting it aside. There's no raffles or drawings.
Speaker 1: You just come here, you purchase, and you leave. I
Speaker 1: love the system. I think it's really beautiful. All my
Speaker 1: besties have one, and I was feeling left out, and
Speaker 1: it's Christmas and I deserve nice things. I bought one
Speaker 1: and clumb I can't. It's gonna be here tomorrow. I'm
Speaker 1: so excited. I have already planned the outfits. It's I
Speaker 1: got the cute, little tiny one. It's like enough for
Speaker 1: maybe a journal and a telephone. That's all I need.
Speaker 1: I can't be carry around big bags. I have a
Speaker 1: bad back. I'm just excited. I've done. I have all
Speaker 1: the shoes now, I've picked up my Instagram designer like
Speaker 1: wardrobe throughout the last year. Now I have to tell
Speaker 1: fur bad. Whenever the world decides it's safe to go out. Girls, ready,
Speaker 1: you're doing like outfit grids. It yes in your mind,
Speaker 1: you know, like that's how you getting organized with your drip.
Speaker 1: You're like, okay, let me look at this real quick,
Speaker 1: planning when and where I can wear things. You know,
Speaker 1: like we're going out on Saturday to see the New
Speaker 1: Spider Man. I'm already organizing the outfit in my mind.
Speaker 1: Any time you leave the house, now it's time for
Speaker 1: the drip. I know that because I went to brunch
Speaker 1: a couple of days ago and literally everyone was dressed
Speaker 1: to the nines for no other reason than we were
Speaker 1: outside and that's this. This was something I was sort
Speaker 1: of suspecting in the like when we were first early
Speaker 1: in the lockdown and everyone had transitioned to just give
Speaker 1: up are as a fashion choice. And now I was like,
Speaker 1: but like the return of the drip is going because
Speaker 1: I remember the first time I went out, I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm wearing every single thing once. I don't care if
Speaker 1: this doesn't even look like coolherent fit. I have to.
Speaker 1: I have to get it out here. But it's nice
Speaker 1: to see people really making Denny's feel like the fucking
Speaker 1: met Gala. Sometimes we were at Posting Beam. It's a
Speaker 1: black ounder us dry. If you're in the l area
Speaker 1: by bald Hills, Yeah, so good. Hash A's next level insane,
Speaker 1: so good. That place have to be what are Ita
Speaker 1: Burger back in the early nineties, which I think he's
Speaker 1: got that vibe. I think it has like a cameo
Speaker 1: and boys in anyway that that that that piece of
Speaker 1: property right there in that shopping center right there on
Speaker 1: Stalker and Crenshaw has had many generations. How are they
Speaker 1: keeping it so that it doesn't like get into the
Speaker 1: resale world or it or it is in the resale
Speaker 1: or okay, gotta go. You can get tell Fars on
Speaker 1: stock x and like you know, the media and after
Speaker 1: that it's out of their hands. They're mostly just concerned
Speaker 1: about like when we sell it, it's like well, and
Speaker 1: the thing is they come out with anyone every two weeks,
Speaker 1: So if you miss the color you like, I feel
Speaker 1: you shouldn't be that stressed like I have, although I
Speaker 1: have been eyeing the mint one because it's meant that
Speaker 1: do you have a Do you have one? No? But
Speaker 1: you know, I like to keep my ear to the
Speaker 1: street when it comes to hype pieces and like what
Speaker 1: the what the youth them are into into? And to
Speaker 1: tell Far, I just feel like a I hear it
Speaker 1: just by osmosis from the chatter around me. But then
Speaker 1: like on Twitter, I feel like so many like people
Speaker 1: have like these like tortured posts of like uh do
Speaker 1: I pay my bills or do I get this this
Speaker 1: small tell Far and Cerulean because that color way is babe.
Speaker 1: And then you're like causing some people some make making
Speaker 1: some hard decisions. So Joel, you did mention the New
Speaker 1: Spider Man, which is pulling strands from many different you know,
Speaker 1: Marvel multiverses. I'm just gonna say it. You don't have
Speaker 1: to confirm or den't. I I wouldn't be surprised if
Speaker 1: the Marvel Defender made a made a cameo. But but
Speaker 1: I'm I don't know my pop up, my might listen,
Speaker 1: I've already seen Spider Man. I'm not saying I can't
Speaker 1: say anything I can't do. But you know, if you
Speaker 1: may be doing battle with hitters, like let's do it,
Speaker 1: let's do it, what is something you think is overrated?
Speaker 1: I'm totally it all out there now, Old Gaze. I've
Speaker 1: had this conversation with you before, and I understand that
Speaker 1: at a time where nobody was effing with y'all, here
Speaker 1: came Madonna to be like, no, voguing is the ship,
Speaker 1: and then she sort of stole it and then past it.
Speaker 1: So I never met him, did not teach me to vogue.
Speaker 1: I was just in the streets being a wild club girl.
Speaker 1: I think at some point I get wanting b BL
Speaker 1: the whole body lift situation. I get it. We live
Speaker 1: in a society that really demands body perfection, particularly if
Speaker 1: you're going to constantly be on camera. I just really
Speaker 1: value women, and no let me rephrase that I value
Speaker 1: people who can live at every age, at every age,
Speaker 1: comfortably in their skin. I think that there's a lot
Speaker 1: of value in that. I don't want to tell you
Speaker 1: what to do and what not to do with your body,
Speaker 1: But Madonna's new butt scares me. I think it's a
Speaker 1: really unhealthy standard for a lot of people to try
Speaker 1: to keep up with. I think the music has not
Speaker 1: been hot since, you know, early two thousand. I'm just
Speaker 1: ready to be like Madonna was in her time, and
Speaker 1: she did that thing as she really angered some people
Speaker 1: who probably needed to be angered, and that was good
Speaker 1: and okay, and it's fine now, can we I just
Speaker 1: want to move on for the Madonna conversation of it all. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I counted myself in that number of seeing
Speaker 1: those boudoir photos, like, well, but the heaps here and why?
Speaker 1: And the butt should match the thighs. Everyone, if you're
Speaker 1: gonna get one, like, just please match it. Like, just
Speaker 1: ask your person whoever is doing it, to be like,
Speaker 1: can you make sure these are proportional? Because otherwise you
Speaker 1: constantly look like you have a diaper but under your skin.
Speaker 1: And isn't that upsetting to you? It upsets me Yeah, well, look,
Speaker 1: there's that they're still figured. They're still working the kinks
Speaker 1: out on that to proceed, I guess, to make it
Speaker 1: seem quite figured out. The blending of the two, like
Speaker 1: when people that that hard makeup line below their chin.
Speaker 1: It's not like the new facelift where they go in
Speaker 1: through your cheek and lift it up so you don't
Speaker 1: look like you've been stapled back, But it sounds like
Speaker 1: it hurts a lot because they like they cut in
Speaker 1: through your cheek, remove some of the fat, and then
Speaker 1: lift up in there so all the weird pool stretchy
Speaker 1: parts are hidden in your mouth. What oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: I'm fascinated and disturbed by plastic surgery. I love that
Speaker 1: it's an option for people. I think you should be
Speaker 1: able to look and feel like however makes you feel best.
Speaker 1: But I'm also deeply disturbed by the lengths we go
Speaker 1: to to try that we have to feel comfortable, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like the fact that you like
Speaker 1: you had to go under and get sliced up. It
Speaker 1: says a lot about our standards beauty. Yeah, absolutely, that
Speaker 1: they're unattainable to the point that merely existing isn't enough
Speaker 1: because it's just specific look that like, yeah, it takes
Speaker 1: medical intervention to arrive there. And like the other part,
Speaker 1: like you're saying, like it's if only we can normalize
Speaker 1: you know, self care, self love. Beauty isn't this thing
Speaker 1: that is measured by how many fucking likes or followers
Speaker 1: you have? Well, or I'm a kind of person who
Speaker 1: finds such beauty and like the in a different face,
Speaker 1: like all these girls the like Instagram face, like your
Speaker 1: face just looks like everyone else's, right, and like all
Speaker 1: the girls like trying to thin out their nose with makeup,
Speaker 1: like I get listen, trans women taught us how to
Speaker 1: contour and it was great. We thank you. As somebody
Speaker 1: who's frequently trying to improve their contour, thank you. I
Speaker 1: really appreciate it. But I am, like again, just weirdly
Speaker 1: disturbed by the amount of people that are like what
Speaker 1: I need is a pencil, thing knows and like big
Speaker 1: noses is where it's at. I don't know where y'all
Speaker 1: have been, but like distinct features like please give them
Speaker 1: to me. I just don't want us all trying to
Speaker 1: look the same. I think then then it becomes not
Speaker 1: beautiful anymore. It's you've made your face a product. Don't
Speaker 1: do it. Don't do a hoax like your face is gorgeous.
Speaker 1: I promise you someone is looking at that face being like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, amazing. Well, yeah, we're the we're our
Speaker 1: own worst critics and the and the when we look
Speaker 1: in the mirror. And I think that's the insidious part
Speaker 1: that it's difficult for many people to get over. We
Speaker 1: don't know what we look like in the mirror. Like
Speaker 1: we we know what we look like to ourselves, but
Speaker 1: we don't know what we look like to an objective person.
Speaker 1: We are worse at judging that than other people are. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we can't judge our voices on our voices objectively. Everyone
Speaker 1: thinks their voice sucks. Everyone thinks their faces fucking sucks.
Speaker 1: Like just like, come on, now, we have to we
Speaker 1: have to realize that there's just that little bit inside
Speaker 1: of us that is kind of giving you bullshit and
Speaker 1: not the truth all the time. I will say one
Speaker 1: bonus here is for people who are you know, do
Speaker 1: find themselves wearing diapers underneath their clothes, You can now
Speaker 1: be like, hey, I just got a butt lift, right right?
Speaker 1: I got that excellent? Yes, like so and that's not
Speaker 1: something I know about from personal experience, Grandpa looking dummy thing,
Speaker 1: But what is something you think is underrated? So like
Speaker 1: I know along the West coast, but I specifically went
Speaker 1: to the one in l a Is the thing called
Speaker 1: Unique Markets. My friend took me there last weekend. Miles
Speaker 1: have you been. Oh my gosh. It's if it's a
Speaker 1: thing that requires me to leave my home, two chances
Speaker 1: are lower. You do have to go outside. That is
Speaker 1: the downside. But imagine if you will, like an Etsy,
Speaker 1: but in person, it's it's like an open air market
Speaker 1: where they hold um shwork sport. Yeah yeah, so in
Speaker 1: that same area. But it's like all of these independent
Speaker 1: sellers around Christmas. I have a son like that. Casey
Speaker 1: is obsessed with only buying direct for Christmas, so all
Speaker 1: of her holiday gifts come from like unique Already small businesses,
Speaker 1: that's her whole bag. You and I really like hopping
Speaker 1: on that train because you know, small businesses, they're going
Speaker 1: to need more money around the holidays at the end
Speaker 1: of the year. They got your taxes next year. It's
Speaker 1: a whole deal. Plus it's nice when you can get
Speaker 1: someone a gift that year. For sure, no one else
Speaker 1: got them. That's my favorite. Where did you find this?
Speaker 1: Let me tell you? And it's just around you be shopping.
Speaker 1: Uh so it's like six thirty to sixty of them.
Speaker 1: If you do be. It's twelve dollars to enter thirty
Speaker 1: six for v I P. We died v I P
Speaker 1: because we're fancy. Now you get wine tickets so you
Speaker 1: can drink a little day, walk breezily around, and then
Speaker 1: you just shop. I bought so much good stuff at
Speaker 1: what we're like, very reasonable price. I got a gold
Speaker 1: ring for thirty dollars. It is beautiful. It is not
Speaker 1: turning my finger green, and it looks like a Cuban
Speaker 1: chain link. I don't want to take it off ever.
Speaker 1: I bought a new net, like several new necklaces. I
Speaker 1: spent too much money, but it just made me cook.
Speaker 1: I got justin t shirts from like it was just
Speaker 1: it's so nice to just like directly interact with somebody
Speaker 1: who's so excited to sell a product that they worked
Speaker 1: really hard on and then you're giving them money. And
Speaker 1: there's so many black owned businesses there. If you happen
Speaker 1: to be on any major city along the West coast,
Speaker 1: I know they just had one Importland, and I think
Speaker 1: they're doing one in San Francisco coming up. You should
Speaker 1: check them out because you'll feel good after going. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like it's something I've seen like in other
Speaker 1: cities too, though, Like I just look at people's posts
Speaker 1: that like I know, live in other cities and like
Speaker 1: it looks like they're like out of mall. But it's
Speaker 1: a bunch of like independent vendors who are like selling
Speaker 1: their wares. But yeah, like I feel like this is
Speaker 1: a very very welcome eventjewelry, ceramics, candles. One woman was there.
Speaker 1: All of her proceeds go to like helping like dig
Speaker 1: clean water wells in Africa. You will find something that
Speaker 1: you love. My friend ball of her Christmas gifts. I
Speaker 1: was selfish and about gifts for myself. Mostly they can
Speaker 1: do whatever, and it's just it's cute and fun shop hopeful.
Speaker 1: If you guys are still trying to get your Christmas gifts,
Speaker 1: it feels better m And so it's like a curated
Speaker 1: like I guess not flea market, but like it's the
Speaker 1: individual like he asks, right, like yeah, yeah, yeah, everyone
Speaker 1: sets up their little stalls. It's been to any kind
Speaker 1: of comic convention and done an artist alley. It's very similar.
Speaker 1: It's like everyone's got there like two little card tables
Speaker 1: and their wears are out, and I guess who could
Speaker 1: try to bargain. I did not. It's not in my blood.
Speaker 1: I just don't come from a family that knows how
Speaker 1: to do that. I'm always impressed with my people being
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna walk away. I'm like, but you really
Speaker 1: want though, like buying I know that's the whole thing.
Speaker 1: You gotta pretend like you don't want to go back.
Speaker 1: They're gonna be like, oh, we could do down, it's impressive.
Speaker 1: I just like, here's my money, Like thank you. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I used to be like that until I sold cars
Speaker 1: and I understood that, like what's what like the elasticity
Speaker 1: of a deal actually is because I'm like, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: overpaid for this. That's fine. If they would like laugh
Speaker 1: at you when you walked away, and then I'm like,
Speaker 1: now I have a I have a more dialed in
Speaker 1: idea of like what things are worth or what I'm
Speaker 1: willing to pay. But like in a situation like that,
Speaker 1: if someone's actually selling you know, they're like handmade products,
Speaker 1: and they said it at that price. The most I'll
Speaker 1: do it is like, hey, is there like a cut?
Speaker 1: If I get like three? And that's that's like the
Speaker 1: most I'll bargain these, like in a in a context
Speaker 1: like this, if I'm traveling and I'm in some tourist
Speaker 1: trap type situation and I know that, like sometimes I'm
Speaker 1: willing to pay, like what is the value? But typically
Speaker 1: what I try to do is I like to bundle.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean to say, let me get five,
Speaker 1: but let me get it cut on that, mhm. Let
Speaker 1: me get some points on the back end of the exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I'm not going to be offended that you asked
Speaker 1: Miles if you knew about this and not me, I
Speaker 1: get it. I get it. You probably assumed I did, right,
Speaker 1: You're like, Jack, have you heard because you probably saw
Speaker 1: me there? Right? Is that why you didn't ask me?
Speaker 1: Because you saw you know, and it was just cute.
Speaker 1: I don't want to disturb you, so I kept it
Speaker 1: plashing that you had your bags slacks, thanks true check slacks.
Speaker 1: I like slacks. Oh boy, yeah, I go to I
Speaker 1: go to a state sales. I find some real cool
Speaker 1: slacks and I just recent I put my own tag
Speaker 1: inside though alright, let's take a quick break. We'll be
Speaker 1: right back, and we're back, and uh, I guess the
Speaker 1: global pandemics back, you know, according to most of America. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you know, there are some things that are new
Speaker 1: about this train. The one thing we know is that
Speaker 1: it's reading fast. Right. Their speculation that this might be
Speaker 1: like the right is really pushing the like this is
Speaker 1: the last gasp of the pandemic, because as we discussed,
Speaker 1: it's like more transmissible but less severe, and so that
Speaker 1: just assumes that this is going to follow the same
Speaker 1: path as all pandemics, which absolutely has not done to
Speaker 1: this point. M And that's that's based on science. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's based on like one possible direction things could go.
Speaker 1: And they're just like tripling down as they did at
Speaker 1: the beginning of the pandemic, when libertarians were like, this
Speaker 1: is not a big deal. It's big government trying to
Speaker 1: scare you. And I think they still are. I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess there's no version of libertarianism that works with
Speaker 1: global pandemic. Right, It's just like I guess you'll die. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but in a vacuum, you know, a very convenient vacuum.
Speaker 1: And even if we see this rapid spread, which is
Speaker 1: the one thing we do know is happening with less severity,
Speaker 1: it's still a lot of people getting sick at the
Speaker 1: same time, taxing hospitals, lots of deaths, it's all the
Speaker 1: all the bed ships that's happened with previous waves. And yeah,
Speaker 1: that the vaccine seems less effective at protecting against it,
Speaker 1: at least for like kind of contracting it. But it
Speaker 1: still seems like the cutting down the severity that's still
Speaker 1: holding because that was always the intent of the vaccine
Speaker 1: was to prevent serious severe illness. Yeah, less effective than
Speaker 1: previous strands. Still it's not like useless for sure. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean like on some level, like you hear epidemiologists
Speaker 1: talk about it's like man like, when they saw the
Speaker 1: mutations of the spike proteins, they were like, this is concerning.
Speaker 1: But then they've you know, slightly dialed back that, like
Speaker 1: it was completely monstrous. But the idea that this isn't
Speaker 1: anything to worry about, or that it's because they believe
Speaker 1: or because of the data so farmacic just it could
Speaker 1: be milder that that's a reason to just like carry
Speaker 1: on is completely backwards. And I think we're also seeing
Speaker 1: this like huge I think conflict between what again, what
Speaker 1: Joe Biden was saying would be his how he would
Speaker 1: lead the country using science through a pandemic and what
Speaker 1: we're seeing now. And like, I feel a lot of
Speaker 1: people are like, we're not quite following what we need
Speaker 1: to be doing suddenly, and we're becoming more relaxed about
Speaker 1: things when really we should be again possibly reconsidering some
Speaker 1: holiday plans or some indoor gatherings because many, like especially
Speaker 1: experts of you know, rang a light alarm to say
Speaker 1: is definitely worth something to think about. Like I get
Speaker 1: that people are vaccinated, but to think that this isn't
Speaker 1: like we're in the same situation you know, that we
Speaker 1: were in, like the you know, early fall or late
Speaker 1: summer is uh is not is not going to do well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it seems strange to me that the only thing we
Speaker 1: seem is like they're like, oh, we'll go back to
Speaker 1: wearing your maths indoors for sure, like definitely do that
Speaker 1: and maybe outside too, if you're gonna sort of be
Speaker 1: around people. I just it's like confusing and exactly, I
Speaker 1: think we're all just very very tired, and it would
Speaker 1: behoove us as a nation to be like, what if
Speaker 1: they really did try to just take a knee for
Speaker 1: a minute, but if we really did just say, you
Speaker 1: know what, like to at least two months go indoors,
Speaker 1: like let's really legitimately have some time to your boosters
Speaker 1: will bring back the checks to help people who need
Speaker 1: it through and like let's see if we can really
Speaker 1: like bring this thing down. I just the but you
Speaker 1: just sold her on and be like, oh more people
Speaker 1: are dying. It happens. Is it's still hard for me
Speaker 1: to like wrap my head around even if somebody who
Speaker 1: again wants to go out and like has gone out,
Speaker 1: it's still that's weird. Yeah, that's the thing that like
Speaker 1: to your point, right of it sounds like we're not
Speaker 1: much better off than we were when the first delta
Speaker 1: wave hit, when we were first having lockdowns, that we're
Speaker 1: looking at really bad outcomes like the with especially when
Speaker 1: you look at how much the hospitals are overwhelmed and
Speaker 1: how much that has affected care in every other dimension,
Speaker 1: because hospitals are becoming places where you know, people are
Speaker 1: even quitting because the job has become so difficult to
Speaker 1: deal with on a daily basis. You'd hope that we
Speaker 1: could have another breath to say, Okay, so it's still
Speaker 1: a pandemic. We still have people who, because of their
Speaker 1: workplace or their living situation, are massively more susceptible to
Speaker 1: falling ill. We act, we need to begin to remedy that,
Speaker 1: we need to begin to think of what our contingency
Speaker 1: planning is. But the I mean, we saw the momentum
Speaker 1: for enhanced unemployment benefits just slowly putter out. But along
Speaker 1: with that, we never got to a point where like, Okay,
Speaker 1: the pandemic is over well. And I don't know if you,
Speaker 1: like either of you have like immuno compromised friends, but
Speaker 1: like they can't do anything, like it's it's devastating. Like
Speaker 1: the most we can do is like I quarantined for
Speaker 1: two weeks, and I can come visit you, you know,
Speaker 1: for a day because I'm sure I don't have It'll
Speaker 1: come directly to you and expose some time with you.
Speaker 1: Because like they can't go grocery shopping, they can't, like
Speaker 1: we're afraid to even participate in outdoor activities because they
Speaker 1: cannot fight off this disease. Like it's just it's just
Speaker 1: very intense rous too. Again, just leave behind an entire
Speaker 1: group of people and shrug and just be like, well,
Speaker 1: you'll figure it out. Yeah. The just the point about,
Speaker 1: you know, the our ability to just move on from
Speaker 1: the deaths and you know, just ignore the fact that
Speaker 1: hospitals are a text and quitting and like it does
Speaker 1: kind of drive drive home again the ways that this
Speaker 1: pandemic has i think highlighted aspects of late capitalism that
Speaker 1: just no longer work or at least have turned so
Speaker 1: monstrous and toxic that like the results are pretty pretty
Speaker 1: fucking stark and kind of hard to ignore at this point,
Speaker 1: which you know, the but all of that is examples
Speaker 1: of our society and our systems ability to remove humans
Speaker 1: from their context and just view them as the deaths
Speaker 1: of statistics. The we view nurses who are quitting and
Speaker 1: drows and doctors who are quitting and drows as like
Speaker 1: a labor force that needs like replenishing, and it's like
Speaker 1: written about as such, and it's like, you know, these
Speaker 1: are people in your community like that, but we've just
Speaker 1: the whole system, Like it used to be that this
Speaker 1: was just work and like commerce, and now it's like
Speaker 1: all culture is like kind of ruled by this. All
Speaker 1: communication is now ruled by these massive corporations who are
Speaker 1: just removing us from context and treating us as values
Speaker 1: in a algorithm instead of human beings. And I think
Speaker 1: it's more and more like both, like the society is
Speaker 1: heading in a direction where like we're better and better
Speaker 1: at removing people from context, but like the results are
Speaker 1: getting so bad that I think it's harder and harder
Speaker 1: for people to ignore it, right, Yeah, I mean you
Speaker 1: know that there's a write up today, I think in
Speaker 1: Box that was saying, like, how can people be expected
Speaker 1: to work through the apocalypse? But we're like in an
Speaker 1: omni crisis, you know whatever, You should pick a subject
Speaker 1: and it's fucked up essentially as unless you're like very
Speaker 1: narrowly looking at like, hey, at least you got that
Speaker 1: plumb tell far, you know. And I think those are
Speaker 1: the ways people find some semblance of a way to
Speaker 1: feel fucking good or treat ourselves to something that isn't
Speaker 1: merely looking straight into the void and not wanting our
Speaker 1: heart to collapse in on itself. But I think it's
Speaker 1: also again, I think with omicron, a lot of epidemiologists
Speaker 1: to your point, are saying it will again reveal the
Speaker 1: cracks in our system and our society where you're going
Speaker 1: to see, like with boosters, certain areas based on socioeconomic
Speaker 1: numbers aren't going to have better access to boosters. But
Speaker 1: it's but also access for you know, communities with less resources.
Speaker 1: That's going to be a problem, and that's gonna an
Speaker 1: omicron is going to affect those communities. To to still
Speaker 1: think that you might be fine because you got to
Speaker 1: this point in the pandemic by doing this, That and
Speaker 1: the other isn't gonna hold up necessarily because yes, this
Speaker 1: is a very different variant, and yeah, I it is.
Speaker 1: It is one of these things where you'd hope that
Speaker 1: more people. It seems like most people who run a
Speaker 1: corporation or company, they're playing like they run their ship,
Speaker 1: like they're playing sim City, you know, like it's so zoomed,
Speaker 1: the it's so zoomed the funk out that you're like that, Okay,
Speaker 1: we need another fire department there, click click click click
Speaker 1: click build it. I don't know, it just happens. I
Speaker 1: don't I don't have the context to zoom in to
Speaker 1: actually see what's happening on the street level, where it's
Speaker 1: a completely different game and a completely different world. Well,
Speaker 1: in the same way that we can't comprehend how much
Speaker 1: money they actually have. I truly think that they cannot
Speaker 1: comprehend out like people who live paycheck to paycheck actually live,
Speaker 1: and what that existence is like, even if they at
Speaker 1: one point experienced that, they're just so far again, as
Speaker 1: you said, like removed from the reality of it. You know,
Speaker 1: with bell Hook's dying, a lot of her work has
Speaker 1: been circulating over the past couple of days, and she
Speaker 1: had this belief that like fantasy as a as a genre,
Speaker 1: as a form of escape, and she tied this also
Speaker 1: to like just are purchasing of things, you know, is
Speaker 1: actively destroying us as a society, And it made me
Speaker 1: feel a little bit bad about my telefire purchase. But
Speaker 1: she had this idea that, like, you know, by grounding
Speaker 1: yourself in reality, it's the only way to bring about
Speaker 1: radical change, right, And I've been thinking about that a
Speaker 1: lot for the past couple of days, because we are
Speaker 1: in a moment that requires radical change, radical being fast
Speaker 1: and the exact opposite of what we've been doing, particularly
Speaker 1: when it comes to you know, not just how we
Speaker 1: treat this pandemic and not just how we're going to
Speaker 1: ratify what copitalism has done to us as a people,
Speaker 1: but also on like a global like um omni crisis, Yes,
Speaker 1: back to the omni crisis, And I just I wonder
Speaker 1: if we have the ability specifically as Americans to divorce
Speaker 1: ourselves from that fantasy. As a person who's obsessed with
Speaker 1: fantasy both as a genre and as a form of
Speaker 1: a scape, by myself trying to escape from reality a lot,
Speaker 1: whether it's through purchases, whether it's through my love of
Speaker 1: Marvel and other television series, whether it's you know, even
Speaker 1: through my work. You know, as much as I I
Speaker 1: want to turn over capitalist system, I'm also obsessed with
Speaker 1: my work. Has spent a lot, a lot, a lot
Speaker 1: of hours on my work. And I just don't know
Speaker 1: if we're prepared, and I don't know how fast we
Speaker 1: can get prepared to actually make a difference to face
Speaker 1: our reality, right, because on some level, right we need
Speaker 1: the radical like you think about the radical change we
Speaker 1: need at a governmental level, right just to even dial
Speaker 1: back the idea that corporations can buy and sell Congress
Speaker 1: people like that, that would require drastic change and change
Speaker 1: that the people who are going to be affected by it.
Speaker 1: It directly affects them. I don't have much faith that
Speaker 1: they're going to be able to implement something that completely
Speaker 1: changes the power dynamic in which like how elections are one.
Speaker 1: So then you're like, m hmm, Okay, that's kind of difficult,
Speaker 1: and I you'd hate that. Like the real grim nature
Speaker 1: of how unforgiving and how brutal and barbaric like this
Speaker 1: system is like has to touch you before you might
Speaker 1: begin to have a change of heart about something, because
Speaker 1: there are many people who are very invested in a
Speaker 1: system that aren't able to see that it's directly contributing
Speaker 1: to their lack of resources. And I gues think from
Speaker 1: the system is so hard. It's going to take actual
Speaker 1: like you have to You're going to have to sacrifice
Speaker 1: and truly truly invest in that sacrifice in order to
Speaker 1: divest from this system. And that's really hard asking people
Speaker 1: to willingly take less, you know, asking people to will
Speaker 1: only give up the status that they value in I
Speaker 1: just I just don't know if we're going to get there.
Speaker 1: I think a lot about the idea of like on
Speaker 1: demand manufacturing, which is something I've only recently kind of learned,
Speaker 1: is the new like model of capitalism is the new
Speaker 1: way that people make things is that you have to
Speaker 1: react quickly and start manufacturing like based on demand, but
Speaker 1: you never have like a stockpile that's sitting in the
Speaker 1: warehouse because it's like it cuts margins a little bit.
Speaker 1: And this was adopted as like the more profitable way
Speaker 1: to do things. And you know, we've been in a
Speaker 1: global pandemic now for almost two years and the way
Speaker 1: that the economy has reacted is to just stick with
Speaker 1: that and still like not have the stockpile necessary for
Speaker 1: like massive spikes. They basically just like baked the death
Speaker 1: into the system and just been like all right, well,
Speaker 1: I guess we're willing to live with that, rather than
Speaker 1: you know, building the stockpiles that are needed adding a
Speaker 1: bunch of nurses and doctors to the system to get
Speaker 1: ready for the next pandemic or be ready when this
Speaker 1: pandemic spikes spikes up again, like we've had the time
Speaker 1: to do that. But like there's just the inertia of
Speaker 1: like the this current system and like even like new
Speaker 1: kind of versions of this system just get locked in
Speaker 1: and like it's like you can't fucking break out of it.
Speaker 1: It's it's really like the You know, some people talk
Speaker 1: about capitalism being the like sort of artificial intelligence that
Speaker 1: we we're afraid of in our sci fi movies, But
Speaker 1: it's just it's already everywhere, it's already impossible to defeat,
Speaker 1: and it's actually but it's like a system that can't
Speaker 1: be controlled and anticipates any attempt to contain it. And
Speaker 1: that that just that example specifically like makes me makes
Speaker 1: me realize, like how how hard this is to to defeat.
Speaker 1: Where we have a type of manufacturing that is like
Speaker 1: marginally more profitable and we can't get people to stop
Speaker 1: doing it even though we're in the middle of a
Speaker 1: pandemic and it killed a bunch of people, and and
Speaker 1: I think they just to sum that all up, and
Speaker 1: you think about, like, okay, well who has the ability
Speaker 1: to do it. It's elected officials, unfortunately, I guess in
Speaker 1: a legislative sense. I mean, if we were more organized,
Speaker 1: then who knows, there's really no limit to what people
Speaker 1: could do collectively. But and currently the way things are
Speaker 1: in we have to look at our the leaders in
Speaker 1: d C who already are articulating that they cannot fucking
Speaker 1: evolve at all, Like Nancy Pelosi was asked, very directly,
Speaker 1: should fucking members of Congress and their spouse is be
Speaker 1: allowed to hold and trade fucking stock while in office?
Speaker 1: And she said, this is a free this quote, this
Speaker 1: is a free market, and people, we are a free
Speaker 1: market economy. They should be able to participate in that.
Speaker 1: That's already you know, like that's already just like something
Speaker 1: that seems like low hanging fruit. Hey, can you not
Speaker 1: fucking trade stocks when you're in office and you maybe
Speaker 1: have your ear to the street in a way that
Speaker 1: other people might not and be able to profit off
Speaker 1: of your position. The answer is, ah, come on, now, come,
Speaker 1: we still have a generation stuck on equality and not equity,
Speaker 1: and has that bridge this gap which I feel like
Speaker 1: we've been talking about for at least the past fifteen years,
Speaker 1: very openly, as sinctly and clearly so that school children
Speaker 1: can understand it that there's a difference between everybody gets
Speaker 1: to do something and this is a society that allows
Speaker 1: everyone to live in a fair and consistent manner. Yeah, frustrating, nancy, frustrating,
Speaker 1: not great, not great, great, find a new angle. All right,
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and we'll come back and
Speaker 1: talk about some pop culture ship and we're back, and
Speaker 1: so we do. We do like to keep an eye
Speaker 1: on the box office, you know, to see what people
Speaker 1: are watching and what they aren't watching. And this past weekend,
Speaker 1: people were surprised by how few people rushed out to
Speaker 1: the theaters to see Steven Spielberg's West Side Story, like
Speaker 1: just great reviews, great word of mouth, and it got
Speaker 1: it pulled in ten million in North America ticket sales,
Speaker 1: which is you know, it cost over a hundred billions,
Speaker 1: so they were definitely hoping for more than that, you know,
Speaker 1: just from abroad like kind of entertainment reporting, since they
Speaker 1: are comparing it to previous like Spielberg movies, which tend
Speaker 1: to be like sci fi and not like he's never
Speaker 1: done a musical before, and musicals tend to have really
Speaker 1: long legs because people like to go see them or
Speaker 1: they here start hearing the song. And that movie, The
Speaker 1: Greatest Showman starring Hugh Grant was like started out somewhat
Speaker 1: disappointing at the box office, and I think it ended
Speaker 1: up making like three hundred something million, even more than
Speaker 1: that four hundred thirty seven million and worldwide ticket sales
Speaker 1: by the end, and it was a terrible movie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it was bad, so maybe maybe there's hope for
Speaker 1: this West Side Story movie. But of course, right wing
Speaker 1: outlets like right bart were quick to lay the blame
Speaker 1: solely on Steven Spielberg's raging wokeness because go on, well,
Speaker 1: you know the guys, uh, you know, indeed people are
Speaker 1: literal monsters. Uh, that guy is supposedly just too woke.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I think they're pointing to the casting of actual,
Speaker 1: like people who are Puerto Rican to play Puerto Ricans
Speaker 1: except for Maria, right, except for Maria, which I know, Like,
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people were feeling some type
Speaker 1: of way about that where they're like, almost did it
Speaker 1: almost so close? So close? I mean, she has Colombian Americans,
Speaker 1: so I guess you know, it's not like having like
Speaker 1: a white person in brown face or right. But I mean,
Speaker 1: I think that was another thing where a lot of
Speaker 1: people were like, you there for all the other points
Speaker 1: that like they were hitting. I think other people were like,
Speaker 1: if you know, if if we're gonna actually have like
Speaker 1: advisors on making everything authentic as possible, like why not
Speaker 1: you know, honor the character's origin and why not replace
Speaker 1: Ansel L. Gore with Tig Nataro like we already did
Speaker 1: with Christliah and that one actually movie absolutely Tony, oh
Speaker 1: my goodness, yeah, just so dry. And the musical it
Speaker 1: would you like, Charls completely upended what we even thought
Speaker 1: of musical. Also, ansel Il Gordon is like already inadvertently
Speaker 1: dead pan and dry. So sorry, go ahead, yeah, nope not,
Speaker 1: You're not incorrect there what they have found a better
Speaker 1: way to say that. They did not say it's eloquently
Speaker 1: when Shoan Chi came out. But diversity doesn't sell. This
Speaker 1: is what they're trying to say. And they've been seeing
Speaker 1: it for a while and they I think they really
Speaker 1: revel in the idea that if a movie has a
Speaker 1: cast that is not predominantly Caucasian, that they're like, see,
Speaker 1: no one wants your diverse bullshit. What we want it's
Speaker 1: more white people, which is beyond ridiculous. I think there's
Speaker 1: a number of reasons West Side Story isn't doing as
Speaker 1: well as they hope straight out the gate. One. I
Speaker 1: think the advertising for it has been that of a
Speaker 1: traditional musical, which is the wrong way to go in
Speaker 1: a YouTube generation. The theater kids have never stopped loving
Speaker 1: theater ever, period, they will come see these movies. Grandmas
Speaker 1: and moms are gonna come see this movie. But a
Speaker 1: lot of things have changed over the course of the
Speaker 1: pandemic one. As quickly as we were getting DVDs pre Pandemic,
Speaker 1: we are getting streaming services so much faster. If this
Speaker 1: is the movie you're gonna want to watch over Christmas
Speaker 1: with your family if you can, you're not gonna be
Speaker 1: able to watch this one at home, but you'll be
Speaker 1: able to watch it in a few weeks after this,
Speaker 1: and so like, why not just wait? It's fine too.
Speaker 1: The way it was advertised was very like, here are
Speaker 1: these big scenes, and it's like flashy, as if we
Speaker 1: like just got CinemaScope or technicolor. These are not the
Speaker 1: things that impress so much anymore. What you needed to
Speaker 1: do was release a couple of key scenes, right. Everyone
Speaker 1: says that um Maria not Maria h is the lead
Speaker 1: Maria's bestie cousin, maybe if I remember the movie correctly.
Speaker 1: But woman that plays her character, original character is supposed
Speaker 1: to be like the standout, like the thing she is
Speaker 1: incredible she was in Hamilton's She's Queer. Y'all should have
Speaker 1: leaned with her scene and been like, look at these
Speaker 1: below out stars. The girl play Maria has the loveliest voice.
Speaker 1: I haven't heard a full song yet, I've heard little
Speaker 1: clips of not the most musically impressive, Like as far
Speaker 1: as vocal performance goes, it's it's the classic. On the
Speaker 1: balcony scene, we don't have any of the fight scenes
Speaker 1: which are supposed to be so good like all they
Speaker 1: showed us. They advertise it like it's a superhero movie,
Speaker 1: which is the thing. I think there is a problem
Speaker 1: across our freaking landscape of cinema right now. Not everything
Speaker 1: is a superhero movie, and we have to have to
Speaker 1: have to stop. They make money, but they make money,
Speaker 1: and no nobody else has been able to replicate this
Speaker 1: process that Marvel has of like here's an entire cinematic universe,
Speaker 1: and we've had twenty six thousand tries in the past
Speaker 1: five years of people trying to do this, and these
Speaker 1: like no spoiler release, get over a spoiler is not
Speaker 1: that big of a deal because the spoiler is not
Speaker 1: giving you the entire experience of sitting through a movie.
Speaker 1: And because they didn't do any of those things, I
Speaker 1: think a lot of people are just like, oh, I'll
Speaker 1: see it shortly, I'll see it later. We are also
Speaker 1: in another way of the pandemic. This is not a
Speaker 1: Marvel movie in which you have to see things or
Speaker 1: it will be spoiled. You know the story very very well.
Speaker 1: There's just like a be jillionar reasons why this didn't sell.
Speaker 1: But to blame it on anything other than it's a
Speaker 1: crazy freaking time and we have to wait, I think
Speaker 1: is shortsighted. A lot of people like, oh, the musical
Speaker 1: is dead. No one wants to see musical. I know
Speaker 1: that when Wicked comes out, it is going to cause
Speaker 1: such a frenzy, such a stir in the box office,
Speaker 1: because it's just that type of musical. It's a pop
Speaker 1: musical which tends to lend itself better to film in
Speaker 1: the first place. Right, I think they I think they
Speaker 1: messed up by not having enough air force ones and
Speaker 1: timberlands in the trailers more with or maybe it's just
Speaker 1: what the right is saying, which they're blaming at all,
Speaker 1: was subtitles or lack of subtitles. Yeah, that's why that's
Speaker 1: the thing that is being called out, getting use subtitles
Speaker 1: when Spanish that's spoken. M That's why I got entering
Speaker 1: it on like the American non Spanish speaking person's perspective,
Speaker 1: they have ruined it. But that's the the big failure there.
Speaker 1: Oh look what they're okay, so everybody speaks Spanish year now, okay,
Speaker 1: and that's the problem with Steven Spielberg, who's so damn woke. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that just feels like a like the easiest attack
Speaker 1: from the right these days is like, oh, yeah, like
Speaker 1: they're not doing well because they're against transphobia, right, huh
Speaker 1: what Yeah, that's that's the I guess that's the dynamic
Speaker 1: they're so desperate to establish. Is that considering other perspectives
Speaker 1: is the you know, the recipe to go straight down
Speaker 1: the tube. Another just point that people are making about
Speaker 1: the box office, like actual people, not people in the
Speaker 1: are saying that the reason it didn't do well in
Speaker 1: the box office is clearly aimed at old people because
Speaker 1: it's a remake of a fifty year old musical. That
Speaker 1: definitely feels like when my dad told me that West
Speaker 1: Side Story was his favorite movie as a kid, I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I was so surprised. I was so surprised.
Speaker 1: But it's not like a movie that, like, you know,
Speaker 1: everybody like knows the snapping and stuff like that, but
Speaker 1: it's not a movie that I feel like people I
Speaker 1: don't know talk that much about anymore. Like that had
Speaker 1: a cultural like a huge cultural legacy, and I mean
Speaker 1: it has a cultural legacy, but I guess it's I
Speaker 1: would say it's the third favorite movie culture icon Ira
Speaker 1: his favorite movie of all time. I really feel like
Speaker 1: it has like a lasting It's it's really everyone loves
Speaker 1: the story of Romeo and Juliette Jack, but I think
Speaker 1: I've never heard of them. Romeo and Juliet. They sound
Speaker 1: like a lovely couple. But I guess I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: like it's not this thing that everyone was like, oh ship,
Speaker 1: they're making West Side Story like other than like people
Speaker 1: who are older, like that felt like a bigger or
Speaker 1: of the palate and interest in musicals and things like that.
Speaker 1: I mean, I I acknowledge how like gigantic West Side
Speaker 1: Stories because I felt like in the eighties and nineties,
Speaker 1: like in my school music classes, like that's all the
Speaker 1: teacher would talk about, and then West Side Story You're like, okay,
Speaker 1: like I'm trying to learn the trumpet, but that was
Speaker 1: your teacher and all you keep talking about Yeah, right, right,
Speaker 1: So all I'm saying is the pandemic. During the pandemic,
Speaker 1: older audiences understandably haven't gone to movies, and so that
Speaker 1: is like the very easy and obvious reason that this
Speaker 1: didn't do that great. And it's not the thing that
Speaker 1: Breitbart is going to tell you about, right and even
Speaker 1: like to Joel's one, like, I'll watch it when it's
Speaker 1: streaming because that the you know, the barrier to entry
Speaker 1: is much lower, and it's just merely like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: like I actually kind of want to see this because
Speaker 1: I'm really I'm really curious, Like visually it looks really
Speaker 1: really cool. And that's the thing more than because I'm
Speaker 1: not really a fan of musicals, but I'm like, no, no,
Speaker 1: I like, I like how this looks. I like I
Speaker 1: like the vibe I'm getting from the screen. So I
Speaker 1: think the first musical, oh my gosh, like just from
Speaker 1: as a cinophile, like you, like, I have to know
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Speaker 1: Acron the nomad soul I'm Kron. You're saying, how, how
Speaker 1: the fun did they know the future? And you know,
Speaker 1: the truth is that it's because they're the Illuminati is real,
Speaker 1: or because it's an actual letter in the Greek alphabet.
Speaker 1: Forget about that part. Go back to the part where
Speaker 1: they predicted the future. Yeah, so I gotta low past
Speaker 1: that detail that blows apart this conspiracy theory. So they
Speaker 1: thought up of the world an go on. Yes, they
Speaker 1: came up with the word and then and then also
Speaker 1: the virus actually told scientists what its name was. Scientists
Speaker 1: didn't give the virus that name, So that's what's so amazing.
Speaker 1: It's like, how did they predict it? The because the
Speaker 1: virus was like, Hey, what's up, I'm I'm acron mom. Yes,
Speaker 1: like that game. Hint, hint. But so the thing that
Speaker 1: was notable about the game at the time is that
Speaker 1: David Bowie not only did the music, he's in it
Speaker 1: kind of it's like a blue fact simile of his
Speaker 1: face surrounded by what looks like a bunch of post
Speaker 1: it notes, right, Like, it's just very poorly rendered. It
Speaker 1: looks like Jack He's punched into the internet man, right, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it looks like it looks like somebody was like Jack,
Speaker 1: me into the game and U this is the result.
Speaker 1: He plays a character called Bos and the players try
Speaker 1: to save their own soul while hunting down a serial killer.
Speaker 1: And it features demons, government conspiracies, and ancient religious orders.
Speaker 1: So I mean, did Q and on write this game
Speaker 1: or did this game? Right? Thank you? But people have
Speaker 1: latched onto the fact that this game was released by
Speaker 1: Bill Gates himself. He was the head of Microsoft. Well,
Speaker 1: a company that was a subsidiary of Microsoft developed the game. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: it's come on, no, I don't like that detail personally
Speaker 1: designed this ship called Amicron because he's letting people know
Speaker 1: his plans in advance through a video game that you
Speaker 1: just have to stare out long enough for the details
Speaker 1: to come up. Yeah, well I just gotta let him know.
Speaker 1: You know, it's a little, a little trick he's playing
Speaker 1: on us. You know, he's like, he's like one of
Speaker 1: the villains in a Sherlock Holmes thing. Where are there
Speaker 1: like within the game. I mean, there's always gonna be
Speaker 1: stuff that conspiracy theorist point is like it's nailed on man. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: part how could you deny this? Yeah? Kind of even
Speaker 1: that sort of I mean that's so tangentially. People have
Speaker 1: pointed out that David Bowie also predicted the future because
Speaker 1: on his Ziggy Stardust album cover he stay ending under
Speaker 1: a sign that says k West on the cover okay,
Speaker 1: which is obviously a reference to Kanye West, which he
Speaker 1: like brought with him from the future to create and
Speaker 1: change the face of music. Yeah, that's that's the best
Speaker 1: that I got. There's also a theory that Bowie faked
Speaker 1: his own death because you know, when he died. Sky
Speaker 1: Sky News in the UK interviewed the music music industry
Speaker 1: executive who looks exactly like David Bowie. Yeah, in a way,
Speaker 1: it's almost like a joke. Yeah, it's like if David
Speaker 1: Bowie tried to address as like a dude who had
Speaker 1: no David Bowie swag at all. He even mentions that
Speaker 1: the news of Bowie's death makes it feel like a
Speaker 1: part of himself died too, which is just like all right,
Speaker 1: and they're like, yeah, come on, y'all. I mean I
Speaker 1: do like though that with the Ziggie Stardust thing is
Speaker 1: that there's like that track five years on it and
Speaker 1: they're being like, almost five years to the day after
Speaker 1: Ziggy Stardust was released, Kanye Omari West was born. I mean,
Speaker 1: now I do have Now I do have this bumps. Actually,
Speaker 1: all right, that actually did it for me. But anyways, yeah,
Speaker 1: David Bowie, Bill gets clearly teamed up to give us
Speaker 1: just this strain of the coronavirus. Weird that they just
Speaker 1: focused on this strain to tease. But anyways, Joel, you
Speaker 1: seem stunned by by all the truth I'm dropping on
Speaker 1: you here. I don't know if you guys know, I'm
Speaker 1: a huge um fan of Bowie's last album, Black Star
Speaker 1: Yea and so I was trying to see if I
Speaker 1: could deepen the conspiracy because there's a lot of like
Speaker 1: hidden messages about his death, particularly in the song Lazarous
Speaker 1: Girl Loves Me has some very interesting themes that could
Speaker 1: potentially you know, it's a lot about sort of hi
Speaker 1: ing and all of a sudden, I couldn't do it.
Speaker 1: I could, my brain is not as fast it's these
Speaker 1: conspiracy folks. But I think that if you want to
Speaker 1: deepen the conspiracy and you're interested in this, she just
Speaker 1: definitely check out Black Star and just try to go
Speaker 1: deeper on this. Bowie was leaving us messages everywhere. I
Speaker 1: believe in the video game. I believe in Black Star.
Speaker 1: I hope that Bowie is not part of them. Maybe
Speaker 1: I think he was trying to warn us about it.
Speaker 1: It was like, Yo, it's coming. It's gonna be the
Speaker 1: one you really got to pay attention to, Like this
Speaker 1: eighth version, fourth third, I don't know how many versions
Speaker 1: in of Corona we're in, but whatever it is, he
Speaker 1: was like, this is when you really need to be
Speaker 1: paying attention. Well, Joel as always such a pleasure having you.
Speaker 1: Where can people find you and follow you? Yeah? Let
Speaker 1: me can follow me? All over the internet at dual Monique.
Speaker 1: That's j O E L L E m O n
Speaker 1: I q u E. I forgot to grab a tweet.
Speaker 1: Damn it, hold on, oh I got it okay. Paramount
Speaker 1: Pictures tweeted out book, Tatum and Radcliffe introduced the official
Speaker 1: trailer for The Lost City. If you guys like Romancing
Speaker 1: the Stone, it's back, but Sandra Bullock and Channing Tatum
Speaker 1: and Dana Radcliffe in it. Danna Radcliffe plays a bad guy,
Speaker 1: Book is the writer, and Tatum is a romance cover
Speaker 1: star Alla Faggio who wants to save Sandra Bullock because
Speaker 1: he's in love with her. My favorite part about this
Speaker 1: tweet is Brad Pitt also makes a very important cameo
Speaker 1: in this trailer, and he is not mentioned in this
Speaker 1: tweet at all. If you haven't seen Romancing the Stone,
Speaker 1: please go get your whole life. It is so so
Speaker 1: it's deeply funny, like aside funny, and this trailer I
Speaker 1: literally cannot wait for March twenty five. It feels like
Speaker 1: an older like classic. You guys know, I'm really into
Speaker 1: nineties and eighties films. Not to be that person, but
Speaker 1: I am. And it has those vibes. It's like weird
Speaker 1: and cheesy and goofy but funny and also has a
Speaker 1: huge freaking budget. I can't wait. Velocity looks Look, It's
Speaker 1: gonna be so good. It's also about Velocity of d
Speaker 1: is the name of her book, which is funny if
Speaker 1: you like Selocity of Dick. It's a romance novel. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be great. It's gonna be so good. Miles, where
Speaker 1: can people find you? What is the tweet you've been enjoying?
Speaker 1: Find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray
Speaker 1: and also the other podport twenty day Fiance with Alexandra
Speaker 1: talking ninety day. Um. Some tweets that I like, Uh,
Speaker 1: this is this one from at Jesse Case tweeting it
Speaker 1: would be hilarious if alcohol had gotten stronger since the sixties,
Speaker 1: like we did. Your dad tries to sip of cores
Speaker 1: light and passes out. It's like, since it's always the
Speaker 1: refrain whenever I've like burned up with older people, it's
Speaker 1: like like whoa, whoa, whoa, this isn't like back then. Um,
Speaker 1: and yeah, could you imagine if somehow our tolerance for
Speaker 1: now actually know that'd be a hellscape If you had
Speaker 1: a sip of a Coors light and then passed up.
Speaker 1: But anyway, I mean if it if it actually made
Speaker 1: them pass out instead of being insanely drunk, that would
Speaker 1: actually be not the worst thing in the world. Alright,
Speaker 1: that was actually mine. But I will also uh yeah,
Speaker 1: Michael Benjamin MF. Benji tweet me, it's cold, worst person
Speaker 1: you've ever met? You think this is cold? I'm from
Speaker 1: and the hin parentheses by this point, I've turned off
Speaker 1: from Chicago B And it is not that cold. I
Speaker 1: would be that worst person. I don't care. Are have
Speaker 1: you not been cold at all this since this? Uh? Okay?
Speaker 1: Because I bet it's relative right, because I bet part
Speaker 1: of you, your your body gets used to this Californian this,
Speaker 1: and you forget your miles. I was trying to make
Speaker 1: a point, but there was frost on the roofs yesterday.
Speaker 1: I had to turn the heater on. My father disowned me.
Speaker 1: I'm not allowed back in the city of Chicago. Now.
Speaker 1: It's over for me. But also I am like, I'm
Speaker 1: mentally aware that it's not that cold, but physically my
Speaker 1: body refuses to accept that that. I did have to
Speaker 1: put a blanket on there. You go okay appreciation. All right, Well,
Speaker 1: you can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien.
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Speaker 1: we put our episodes and our footnotes where we link
Speaker 1: off to the information that we talked about in today's episode,
Speaker 1: as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles,
Speaker 1: What's song do we think people might enjoy? It? Just
Speaker 1: some good old fashioned instrumental music from the Jabs, James
Speaker 1: Brown's backing band. Uh. Shock full of fantastic musicians in
Speaker 1: their own right. I mean, you know Maceo Parker heard
Speaker 1: a Maco party, heard of Maco in the Max anyway,
Speaker 1: but yes, very talented band. But this track is called
Speaker 1: Theme from King Heroin and it's just a great track
Speaker 1: of just again with the with the weather and the
Speaker 1: indoor nature of our current season. This this is something
Speaker 1: nice to have in the background, has got sold to.
Speaker 1: It's got a little bit of funk to it. It's
Speaker 1: just just a great track. So Theme from King Harold. Alright,
Speaker 1: we'll go listen to that. The Daily Zey Gay is
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