Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, am welcome to Season to fifteen, episode
Speaker 1: three of of My Heart Radio. This is a podcast
Speaker 1: where we take a deep dive into American's chair consciousness. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's Monday. No, I'm gonna go ahead and say it's Wednesday.
Speaker 1: That's what you know, what? Fuck it, let's call let's
Speaker 1: go with that. It is, I believe, which is of
Speaker 1: course National cupcake Day and that National cat hurt her Day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: is cat hurting a thing? I thought that was just
Speaker 1: like a thing people said about a difficult job. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that hurts pretty much? What it? I think it's just
Speaker 1: a general It's more of a concept, right, someone who's
Speaker 1: having to be in charge of disorganized things like dare
Speaker 1: mentioning dog washer made of honor to a bridezilla a
Speaker 1: basketball player for Bobby Night. How fucking old is this list?
Speaker 1: Oh my god? Also, why why does that being like
Speaker 1: that's yeah, poorly written description of different things that could
Speaker 1: be hurting cats, because yeah, Bobby, Bobby Knight is like authority, Harry,
Speaker 1: that would be like hurting cats out if you're being
Speaker 1: if you're playing for Bobby Knight, you're not in charge
Speaker 1: of a fucking thing, right, except for your choke response, right,
Speaker 1: he comes at you all right. Well, hey, my name
Speaker 1: is Jack O'Brien a K John O'Brien because that's my
Speaker 1: my real name. It's the only real a K I've
Speaker 1: ever done on this show. That is something I'm also
Speaker 1: in as. But yeah, can you do your social and
Speaker 1: data birth Yeah? Yeah cool? Okay, anyways, I'm throwed to
Speaker 1: be joined as always buy my co host Mr Miles
Speaker 1: smoking grass deep in my seat? Wait is this time
Speaker 1: to go? Ain't no sound up? All the street? Still
Speaker 1: got time to flow? Are you ready? Yeah? Are you
Speaker 1: ready for this? Smoking this pope leap out of the airwaves?
Speaker 1: The intro hits sounded. Another podcast with Jack and another
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Speaker 1: shout out to Hannah salt Is handoramic View. I see
Speaker 1: you on the disc. Thank you for that love and
Speaker 1: love another one bites the dust, you know, just we'll
Speaker 1: get in time and get your Freddy on. I feel
Speaker 1: like I'm watching Jordan's come back, you know, in the
Speaker 1: with the four or five on the back, or dropping
Speaker 1: the four or five, putting on the two three and
Speaker 1: just dropping heat. Great to see Hannah salts us back
Speaker 1: back at it again. There, Well, Miles, we are thrilled, fortunate,
Speaker 1: blessed to be joined in our third seat by a
Speaker 1: very funny and talented podcaster, author TV personality. She's the
Speaker 1: author of the book Tropical Attire, Encouraged and Other Phrases
Speaker 1: That Scare Me. She hosts the podcasts Alison Rosen Is
Speaker 1: Your Best is Your New Best Friend, and Childish, which
Speaker 1: is a podcast for parents and people with parents that
Speaker 1: she co hosts with Greg fitz Simmons, and the new
Speaker 1: podcast Upworthy Weekly. Please welcome, be hilarious, the brilliant Allison Rosa.
Speaker 1: It's so nice to be here, delighted to talk about
Speaker 1: what's going on. But for a second, can we just
Speaker 1: talk about this Cat Hurder National International Annual Day. I
Speaker 1: was thinking, this is the kind of I mean, it's
Speaker 1: a made up holiday. But if you're going to celebrate
Speaker 1: this holiday, you have to do it privately because you
Speaker 1: can't let the people around you know that you feel
Speaker 1: that your job is hurting cats, right, you can't let them.
Speaker 1: You can't let the people who work for you know that.
Speaker 1: Although I feel like the people who are like it's
Speaker 1: like hurting cats love to tell people that managing them
Speaker 1: is like hurting cats. Yeah right, So I guess if
Speaker 1: you're kind of a toxic per person and you manage
Speaker 1: a bunch of employees and you have power over them,
Speaker 1: then you can claim to be herding cats and you're
Speaker 1: just a bit of a jerk. But if your job
Speaker 1: is like personal assistant to someone who has more power
Speaker 1: than you, I don't know why I'm I'm I guess
Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with power today and cats, then you can't
Speaker 1: say it. It's it's a it's a problematic holiday all around. Yeah,
Speaker 1: get out of here cat. I mean, if you really
Speaker 1: want to know what happened, we can all pin this
Speaker 1: on Thomas and Ruth Roy from wellcat dot com. They're
Speaker 1: the fucking people who gave us this holiday, so the
Speaker 1: cat Herder Day, Yeah, I mean, they may be the
Speaker 1: only people who actually have to I haven't spent a
Speaker 1: lot of time at wellcat dot com. Is that what
Speaker 1: it's called? Maybe they have like a lot of cat
Speaker 1: photo shoots which have to be difficult, have to be
Speaker 1: a little bit like are they tread like not a
Speaker 1: hell cat but a welldcat? Or is it a bunch
Speaker 1: of like cats stuck in wells oh, like the baby chat.
Speaker 1: You're talking about my cank just like from a well yeah,
Speaker 1: when you said what whoever and whoever Roy, I was
Speaker 1: thinking it made me think of succession and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I thought that's what Logan Roy found,
Speaker 1: uh fortune was built on. Was it was a cat website.
Speaker 1: That's right, Yeah, first stone in his media empire, right
Speaker 1: was wellcat dot com before the thing Wellcat way star,
Speaker 1: like the this fucking website right for welcat. These people
Speaker 1: they essentially in the business of creating holidays. The first
Speaker 1: line is meet the folks at wellcot dot com. They're
Speaker 1: Ruth and Tom Roy and they are the creators of
Speaker 1: more than seventy copyrighted holidays quote unquote as published on
Speaker 1: their site. Wow, So that's what they These people just
Speaker 1: get off on holidays, I guess, and then copyrighting them.
Speaker 1: So they're possessive. Do they mention some of the other
Speaker 1: ones Bathtub party Day, Barbie and Barney backlash Day. I
Speaker 1: feel like they are cat public Enemy number one and
Speaker 1: two because they're making people stick their cats in a bathtub, right, No,
Speaker 1: dim old Chad Day. So they're they're like, really, they
Speaker 1: just are sitting in wait for a news story that
Speaker 1: they can like kind of jump on and turn into
Speaker 1: snowplow mailbox hockey day. That doesn't have to do with cats.
Speaker 1: It's winter time and time for snowplow drivers everywhere to
Speaker 1: see how many rural mailboxes they can knock over twenty
Speaker 1: extra points for boosting one into the next township. Okay,
Speaker 1: these people need to be stopped. I don't I don't
Speaker 1: like that Thomas roy is, according to his like the
Speaker 1: home pitch Thomas actor. So I don't know, I've never
Speaker 1: seen him in anything, but you know what, what's I'm
Speaker 1: not on the website right now? What kind of look
Speaker 1: does he have? Like Hallmark movie? Yeah, maybe like a
Speaker 1: dad from a Hallmark movie. But the website has the
Speaker 1: look of something that hasn't been touched since did MIDI
Speaker 1: music load when you it tried to and then just
Speaker 1: like blocked, gave up and died. All right, Alison, we're
Speaker 1: gonna get to know there's another one in here. Yell
Speaker 1: fudge at the cobras in North America. Day y'all fudge
Speaker 1: at them. And these people are criminal. Look, this list
Speaker 1: is so aggressively doesn't make sense of this stuff. One
Speaker 1: is about grunt old workers day. Yeah, so it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know for ers who they are very much putting
Speaker 1: their best face on. Tell him, hey, thanks for that.
Speaker 1: I'm glad we didn't union on. Yeah, right exactly, shout
Speaker 1: out to our grunt old workers. I'm fine with what
Speaker 1: you're saying. I need to live, Thank you, and may
Speaker 1: I have just incrementally less. Could I have a water break? No, okay,
Speaker 1: I'll just get it when I go to the bathroom.
Speaker 1: Oh no, but I should. I should have put an
Speaker 1: IVY in myself and walk that. You're right, all right, Allison,
Speaker 1: We're going to get to know you a little bit
Speaker 1: better in a moment. First, a couple of things we're
Speaker 1: talking about. We're gonna talk about Mark Meadows texts and
Speaker 1: just generally where we're at with his involvement in the
Speaker 1: January six committee, what we've learned from him. We're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about oz So sometimes known as doctor Oz. We're
Speaker 1: going to talk about that Sex in the City reboot
Speaker 1: and it's impact on Peloton. The Peloton commercial came back
Speaker 1: and you know, told him what was what in a
Speaker 1: way that was not very effective. It looked more like
Speaker 1: Mr Bick was in purgatory and was pointing that out.
Speaker 1: It looks very much like they're in some sort of
Speaker 1: creepy afterlife. So we'll talk about that plenty more. But first, Alison,
Speaker 1: we do like to ask our guests what is something
Speaker 1: from your search history. I searched what fish can live
Speaker 1: in a bowl because I have two little kids and
Speaker 1: they've started on YouTube watching hamster mazes, so someone will
Speaker 1: have like a pet hamster instead of a maze for it,
Speaker 1: and then it'll just be like hours of the hamster
Speaker 1: going around the maze. And Elliott, my almost five year old,
Speaker 1: announced that he wanted a pet. Can we get a pet?
Speaker 1: And I said, how about the dog that we have,
Speaker 1: but that's not going to work for him, and he
Speaker 1: wanted hamster, and I said what about a fish? And
Speaker 1: then surprisingly he got very excited about the idea fish,
Speaker 1: and I thought, that's easy, that's something we can handle.
Speaker 1: He's already named the fish. It's gonna be rexy. And
Speaker 1: then I mentioned to my husband that I promised Elliott
Speaker 1: we would get him a fish next year. And Daniel,
Speaker 1: my husband, said, okay, but you know that means like
Speaker 1: a whole little aquarium system with heater and filtration and
Speaker 1: the whole nine yards. And I was like, no, I
Speaker 1: was just thinking a fish bowl. I was thinking and
Speaker 1: some tapwater, exactly water, fish, some flake food sometimes. So
Speaker 1: I searched what fish can live in a bowl? And
Speaker 1: lo and behold, it turns out my husband is And
Speaker 1: I don't know if he I think he was just
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know how he knew this. But
Speaker 1: as a culture, we've moved away from fish in bowls.
Speaker 1: Now they feel like that is somewhat inhumane, that all
Speaker 1: fish need even just a few gallon tank. And in
Speaker 1: a way, I said, this is like the fish version
Speaker 1: of me being like, did you know that people let
Speaker 1: their dogs inside now? Even overnight? Right? So I am, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not that. Yeah, they let him inside. They even
Speaker 1: let them on their beds sometimes. No. Yeah, so that's
Speaker 1: you don't let your dog inside, Alison. No, I do,
Speaker 1: could be equival, but don't you don't You never meet
Speaker 1: people like that, You're like, you let your dog inside? Like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm saying that, Like I feel like back in the
Speaker 1: day people would have No. My dog, my dog not
Speaker 1: only lives inside, she sleeps like on top of my
Speaker 1: husband's head and has never been comfortable for even the
Speaker 1: second of her life, and I wouldn't have it. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't have it any other way. I'm a third wheel.
Speaker 1: When she and my husband are around, they have a
Speaker 1: special bond. But I remember when I was a kid,
Speaker 1: people would have dogs that just had a doghouse outside
Speaker 1: and pretty much just lived out there. Yeah, I feel
Speaker 1: like it's changed. I have neighbors that have that to Yeah,
Speaker 1: but they have like a like they have like a
Speaker 1: weird tool shed is their doghouse, so like they have
Speaker 1: an interior. But I'm like, that's still in my mind,
Speaker 1: like they're gonna get cold, yeah, and be sad. Why
Speaker 1: would you not want your dog to to be getting
Speaker 1: its fur and it's sliva all up in you? But
Speaker 1: really why I can't. I mean, I guess they have
Speaker 1: dogs that, you know, dogs at jobs, guard dogs and whatnot,
Speaker 1: But still I can't imagine that dog not being a
Speaker 1: part of your family. So I guess we're getting a
Speaker 1: fish tank now. I don't know, Yeah, I mean, is
Speaker 1: it is it that much more expensive to get like
Speaker 1: a couple gallon fish tank and like the little easy
Speaker 1: filter pump, But no, it's not in fact having the
Speaker 1: filtration I guess means that we don't have to clean
Speaker 1: it out, so it actually could be less maintenance. It's
Speaker 1: more just the space and the It's not the financial investment,
Speaker 1: it's just the whole. I don't know. I thought of
Speaker 1: a fish in a bowl as a very easy, low
Speaker 1: maintenance starter pet, and this just suddenly feels like a
Speaker 1: bigger project. But you know, maybe I'll become a fish hobbyist.
Speaker 1: It's my new thing. Maybe I'll breed rare tropical fish.
Speaker 1: Watch out. I know, I know. Next thing, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be buying a snail and a little treasure chest.
Speaker 1: You're gonna want the You're gonna want the antique the
Speaker 1: guy in the diving bell who is near the treasure
Speaker 1: chest that opens about every three seconds with their bubbles. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're gonna need about four of those classics. How many fish? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you gonna need about seven of those? You know, about
Speaker 1: fourteen fake grass blades and real ones to real plants.
Speaker 1: I mean, you got a quarium rocks? Well, I have
Speaker 1: rocks like, no, no no, no, you got a quarium rocks.
Speaker 1: I we have like some pavements, don't no, no, I'm not.
Speaker 1: You're gonna need these man, you're gonna kill your fish
Speaker 1: with it. Have you guys ever had fish and bowls
Speaker 1: and did it work out for him? Oh? Yeah? I mean,
Speaker 1: but this was this is the late eighties and early
Speaker 1: nineties where the we didn't hear tell of humane ways
Speaker 1: to have your fish, like having kids with fighting fish
Speaker 1: like beta fish. Those are always in like their own
Speaker 1: jars because they'll fight each other and that's just kind
Speaker 1: of how they got down. But that's what I was thinking.
Speaker 1: We could just get one of those. But those especially
Speaker 1: now they recommend a small aquarium for yeah, the social
Speaker 1: justice warrior craft, all the woke mobs coming from my fish. Okay, wow,
Speaker 1: the fish told you that's what they need. Well you
Speaker 1: can tell by the stress, okay, alright, yeah, okay you
Speaker 1: speak fish. Yeah, we definitely like did it the old
Speaker 1: school way where we just like put multiple fish in
Speaker 1: a tank together that I think they're probably entire books
Speaker 1: written about like what fish don't go together, and we're
Speaker 1: just like, no, these guys, you know, they're they look
Speaker 1: similar enough, And one fish just kept killing all the
Speaker 1: other fish, which for me, as a big fan of
Speaker 1: jaws and predatory fish aquatic animals, I was really into
Speaker 1: and that fish became my favorite pet that I've ever had.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it was probably not humane. It sounds definitely
Speaker 1: not humane. So you weren't sad at all about all
Speaker 1: the fish that we're getting killed squid games? Probably not? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I was. I was a weird kid.
Speaker 1: I wanted to get eaten by a shark, so like that,
Speaker 1: that's right about that? Yeah? What is something you think
Speaker 1: is overrated? The Mariah Carey Christmas song all I Want
Speaker 1: for Christmas? As you, I do not like it it.
Speaker 1: This came up on my new podcast Upwearthly Weekly. There
Speaker 1: was a story about a bar I believe it was
Speaker 1: in Texas that on their jukebox said you can't play
Speaker 1: this song until after Thanksgiving and then only one time
Speaker 1: per night. And my co host said he doesn't like
Speaker 1: any Christmas music, but he does like that song, and
Speaker 1: I was like, you're entirely wrong, talked about him. I
Speaker 1: like all chriss no, I like most I like good
Speaker 1: Christmas music, but I don't like that song. And after
Speaker 1: this aired, I just really got so much ship on
Speaker 1: Twitter from people, even a being of Kevin and Bean
Speaker 1: was like, Allison, I love you, but I'm sorry, you're wrong.
Speaker 1: It's a great song. So many people I know, people
Speaker 1: I respect and love, have let me know they love
Speaker 1: that song. So the other day I put it on
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I'm gonna see, and this is what
Speaker 1: a big person I am. I'm gonna see if I
Speaker 1: was wrong. Listen to it turns out just like I
Speaker 1: keep trying to eat cucumber and watermelon, and I know
Speaker 1: they're related, I don't. I I don't particularly like either
Speaker 1: of them, and I keep trying. I tried this song.
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I don't need to hear it again.
Speaker 1: I still don't like it. So I just feel this song.
Speaker 1: I'm surprised at how popular it is and I feel
Speaker 1: it's overrated. Yeah, it's a It's like it's one of
Speaker 1: those songs. I hear it once in the right context
Speaker 1: and I'm like, all right, but reaction it's kind of alright,
Speaker 1: like you're kind of like, hey, I'm gonna best buy.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll buy this blank be chest tape. That's what
Speaker 1: Jack said when his fish got killed. Alright, alright, alright,
Speaker 1: another two are floating today. More food, I mean my fish, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: more food yeah. But yeah, like I'm I love, I like,
Speaker 1: so that's the thing. I like all Christmas music, so
Speaker 1: I don't hate that one. But I can only listen
Speaker 1: to that so many times before I have to go
Speaker 1: back to the old you know, like ear valium hits
Speaker 1: of Christmas music. It is. It has reached a level
Speaker 1: of cultural just dominance that it's I think it's got
Speaker 1: to be by far the most played Christmas song, right
Speaker 1: like a point by multiples, Like it just seems like
Speaker 1: because it's the only one that like, nobody's going to
Speaker 1: ever play a cover of that, and yeah, it's just
Speaker 1: so omnipresent. My kids really like it. So I'm in
Speaker 1: kind of a weird position, all right, I actually also
Speaker 1: like it, but prising I'm sorry, prizing how many how
Speaker 1: many people otherwise as motherfucker's are out here. Hey, it's
Speaker 1: good for me for one, all right, then I go
Speaker 1: on with my day. But yeah, I'd be lying if
Speaker 1: I said it didn't give me a little and you go,
Speaker 1: he he he. All right, when you hear it at
Speaker 1: best Buy at the beginning of the season, like if
Speaker 1: it's um an indication that it's Christmas season, I can
Speaker 1: accept it. But when it when we're in the thick
Speaker 1: of it. I don't want to hear it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like not liking that song is probably as
Speaker 1: close as you can get to the experience of being
Speaker 1: the Grinch, Like you know how the Grinch like exactly
Speaker 1: the right size. I know. I'm not saying that you
Speaker 1: are like a grinch in any respect other than that
Speaker 1: you do have those charges of stealing people's Christmas trees
Speaker 1: for the past I guess three years around. I had
Speaker 1: to fix the light, right, But the just you know,
Speaker 1: the way that he can't stand Christmas and like all
Speaker 1: the Christmas like that is basically the most omnipresent thing
Speaker 1: that you could that I could imagine somebody objecting to.
Speaker 1: That's just like like everywhere. I don't know how you
Speaker 1: could avoid that around the Christmas holidays. You can't. You're right,
Speaker 1: it's situational grinchiness. But I look at it like I
Speaker 1: love Christmas time and everything Christmas Eve so much that
Speaker 1: I can't like that song. I have a question. I
Speaker 1: think this is the reason why I think I only
Speaker 1: like it at the maybe the kick off to the
Speaker 1: holidays or like in a dynamic situation. It's because the
Speaker 1: song itself is very fast it's like that tempo, that
Speaker 1: tempo is too much. That tempo is just too much
Speaker 1: for me. I need to bring that ship back because
Speaker 1: I think in my mind the year is ending, so
Speaker 1: it's slowing down, and maybe just my overconsumption of food
Speaker 1: is contribute to that lethargy. But I need the music
Speaker 1: to so kind of be an energetic match for what
Speaker 1: I need, right to take it down or not. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just a little bit, just a little bit, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that's for me. That one of the reasons
Speaker 1: why I like I tend to like some of the
Speaker 1: more classics that are more like brooding and just sort
Speaker 1: of same and yeah, yeah evokes a fire. You'll log
Speaker 1: there's a playlist that we listened to called Christmas Crooners
Speaker 1: and it's all the classics, and I enjoy that quite
Speaker 1: a bit. Yeah, the people who I think we talk
Speaker 1: about it on our Holiday Year and Christmas Song episode,
Speaker 1: but like the people who sound like they eventually died
Speaker 1: of throat cancer, Like, yeah, classics. What is something you
Speaker 1: think is underrated? Well? I may be biased, but I
Speaker 1: feel my new podcast that I mentioned Upworthy Weekly is
Speaker 1: underrated or just underknown about as of yet. We're very
Speaker 1: new so you know the site upworthy, huge social media presence.
Speaker 1: This is their very first podcast. It's a lighthearted current
Speaker 1: events news podcast would come out on Saturday's weekly and
Speaker 1: it we started last month and I'm just having so
Speaker 1: much fun with it and I'm so excited about it.
Speaker 1: And I've been podcasting for a very long time, and
Speaker 1: I'm sure you guys feel this way too, like the
Speaker 1: podcasting landscape has changed, and I guess I'm just and
Speaker 1: I'm revealing way too much, but I'm surprised. I think
Speaker 1: I expected it would explode a little in a good way,
Speaker 1: a little more, and I'm just discovering what I've heard
Speaker 1: other people say all the time of like it's hard
Speaker 1: to launch a podcast now because there are so many podcasts.
Speaker 1: So I think the challenge is just getting the word
Speaker 1: out about it, because I think people would like it
Speaker 1: if they knew about it, but I think they don't
Speaker 1: know about it yet, and I know some of that's
Speaker 1: just that's standard with a new podcast, but anyway, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, discovery is the hard bit for sure for
Speaker 1: new shows. But yeah, right, I think I was spoiled
Speaker 1: in the past because I haven't I just had established
Speaker 1: shows already right, right, right, And so with this it's
Speaker 1: like upworthy, right right, You're delivering the things that you
Speaker 1: probably wouldn't hear on this podcast. Right. It's not hard news.
Speaker 1: It's more sociological and lighthearted, and you know, I think
Speaker 1: their tagline is like the best of humanity delivered. However,
Speaker 1: we did do a story about a dog's perfect last day.
Speaker 1: This dog who loved to play in the snow, and
Speaker 1: like the Utah Parks from Recreation, put together this snow
Speaker 1: pile for the dog. But I was like, this is
Speaker 1: both heartwarming and also incredibly sad. This is the dog's
Speaker 1: last day, so it's heartwarming. But we kind of joke
Speaker 1: about that stuff too, so yeah, yeah, yeah, you know
Speaker 1: we did. Um, there was a study that came out
Speaker 1: that said that men in relationships tend to let go
Speaker 1: of their social connections and become kind of lonely. It
Speaker 1: was inspired by there was a catch on SNL. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you guys are watching this season. Um,
Speaker 1: I only saw this afterwards, but where Pete Davidson is
Speaker 1: in it and his girlfriend takes him to a man
Speaker 1: park which is like a dog park so that he
Speaker 1: can make friends. But then we talked about how like
Speaker 1: there's actually sort of a real world, you know, there's
Speaker 1: evidence that that does happen. So we talked about like
Speaker 1: how you know, our men in relationship lonely, etcetera, but
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. Are we lonely dogs that need
Speaker 1: to be taken to? Yeah? And also are ever present
Speaker 1: Christmas music disagreement? Right? Yeah, but it's yeah, so I
Speaker 1: would love if people would go check it out. It
Speaker 1: comes out on Saturdays. It's it's a fun listen and
Speaker 1: and yet also topical and newsy in a lighthearted way. Yeah.
Speaker 1: My wife has found that if she if you just
Speaker 1: let me out and let me run a little bit
Speaker 1: and just like burn off a little bit of that energy,
Speaker 1: I'm much less depressed at the end of the day
Speaker 1: when I have to hang out with her friends husband's.
Speaker 1: But it's also funny too, where it's like when there
Speaker 1: are situations were like is gonna be there? And then
Speaker 1: remember remember Rick, he likes he likes sports, but don't
Speaker 1: like NFL. He only likes the NFL. Okay, Well, then
Speaker 1: there's that other guy like Dave. He's like he's in
Speaker 1: the video games and games on PC and I don't
Speaker 1: know what he's talking about how to time, I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: or other times like Miles meat Ban he likes Arsenal too,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, there are those moments for sure, for sure,
Speaker 1: that's funny. All right, let's take a quick break and
Speaker 1: we'll be right back. And we're back and Mark Meadows,
Speaker 1: what can we say? He's trying to like play both sides.
Speaker 1: I think I think basically he's trying to dumbased way
Speaker 1: though not do anything like m hm with his like
Speaker 1: face on camera that Trump will see and get mad at.
Speaker 1: So like he'll he'll like give the the Democrats and
Speaker 1: the committee like what they're looking for if it's like
Speaker 1: document dropped, But he doesn't want to like actually go
Speaker 1: up there and say the things because then he knows
Speaker 1: Daddy will be mad. That's the thing that's odd, right,
Speaker 1: because first they said he was cooperating. We're like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's cooperating. But then he's like then they're like, no,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to fucking you know, write them up
Speaker 1: on contempt charges for you know, completely starting to stone
Speaker 1: while by using this excuse that everything is covered under
Speaker 1: executive privilege, even though he spoke about it on TV
Speaker 1: he's written a book. They're like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 1: Like this doesn't even track at all. And the other
Speaker 1: thing was he also admitted that he was using personal
Speaker 1: accounts and like Signal and like his Gmail and like
Speaker 1: self personal cell phones to conduct official business. Yet that
Speaker 1: seemed to be the line where he was like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not cooperating anymore, because the handel did
Speaker 1: peanut Verizon for phone records, and then suddenly that seemed
Speaker 1: to be the sort of the final straw for him,
Speaker 1: which makes people believe, like, well, what the funk is
Speaker 1: in those messages or communications, because based on even what
Speaker 1: you gave the January six communee, that ship is some
Speaker 1: pretty you know, holy sh it. I mean, we we suspected,
Speaker 1: but this is like, these are some interesting receipts that
Speaker 1: you've given up. I was shocked. So I saw a
Speaker 1: headline that talked about the damning tweets from Donald Trump Junior,
Speaker 1: Laura Ingram, and Hannity, and I was thinking that these
Speaker 1: were gonna be I assumed that it was going to
Speaker 1: be something like being like, you know, you go to
Speaker 1: burn down the capital or whatever, and shockingly, those three turds,
Speaker 1: we're trying trying to get Mark Meadows to get Trump
Speaker 1: to like reel it in. Yeah that when when you
Speaker 1: find yourself agreeing with those three, like, wow, the bar
Speaker 1: has really been set low, right, And this is the thing,
Speaker 1: you know that those texts, like you're mentioning it reveals
Speaker 1: a like panicked right wing media apparatus that new ship
Speaker 1: had gone completely off the rails. But you know, but
Speaker 1: on the same time, they had other things to say
Speaker 1: after those texts apparently fell on deaf ears. So you know,
Speaker 1: Liz Cheney read allowed these texts during you know, the
Speaker 1: hearing where they're officially decided to formally charge Meadows with contempt.
Speaker 1: And I'll just read it because hearing this all read
Speaker 1: out is really it gives you a whole other sort
Speaker 1: of feel for it rather than merely reading the text.
Speaker 1: So this is Liz Cheney reading texts between that were
Speaker 1: either sent to Mark Meadows or Yeah. So this is
Speaker 1: Liz Cheney reading texts that were sent to Mark Meadows
Speaker 1: on the day of January six from some of Fox's
Speaker 1: brightest star quote, Mark, the president needs to tell people
Speaker 1: in the capital to go home. This is hurting all
Speaker 1: of us. He is destroying his legacy. Laura Ingram wrote,
Speaker 1: please get him on TV, destroying everything you have accomplished.
Speaker 1: Brian Kilmeade texted, quote, can he make a statement? Ask
Speaker 1: people to leave the Capital? Sean Hannity urged. As the
Speaker 1: violence continued, One of the president's sons texted, Mr. Meadows quote,
Speaker 1: He's got to condemn this ship asap. The Capitol Police
Speaker 1: tweet is not enough. Donald Trump Junior texted, shocking, So oh,
Speaker 1: I'll go on there. She does talk about what Meadows did.
Speaker 1: Respond to the Meadows response, Sorry, I cut her off shore,
Speaker 1: but this is Meadows then saying, you know, responding responded quote,
Speaker 1: I'm pushing it hard. I agree. Still President Trump did
Speaker 1: not immediately act, so yeah, I'm pushing it hard. Guys. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm maybe I really don't care what's happening,
Speaker 1: But thanks for that. He just did a tap back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's doing that. Just yeah, the emphasis one, just the exclamation,
Speaker 1: what does that mean? No, no fucking stop. This is
Speaker 1: all bad. And so again, predictably, this clip where they're
Speaker 1: you know, bringing him up on charges was not aired
Speaker 1: at all on Fox or O A, N or Max.
Speaker 1: Because this is this clearly outlines how things were being
Speaker 1: viewed from anyone but Trump, especially when you talk about
Speaker 1: how people like Laura Ingram, Sean Hannity and kill me
Speaker 1: to many others on Fox. Clearly they saw this happening there,
Speaker 1: texting this is all bad. But then later that night
Speaker 1: they're all starting to say, like, I'm hearing things about Antifa,
Speaker 1: you know, possibly happening when they knew it was clear
Speaker 1: as day what was happening. That the supporters of the president,
Speaker 1: it completely like it has gone to the place where
Speaker 1: Trump was hoping for but this was already it had
Speaker 1: become too much. Yet they still, with their loyalty to
Speaker 1: this fucked up party, we're saying, okay, well, we'll do
Speaker 1: what we need to do to start putting some spin
Speaker 1: on this, even though to us we clearly saw what
Speaker 1: was going on. But what I wonder, because I couldn't
Speaker 1: have a lower opinion of all those people. So do
Speaker 1: you think they were trying to do damage control even
Speaker 1: though in their heart of hearts they agree with it,
Speaker 1: or yeah, okay, yeah, I think it's because they have
Speaker 1: since realized that. I think the lesson on their end
Speaker 1: is probably we were wrong to tell him to reel
Speaker 1: it in like because he has successfully like it just
Speaker 1: hasn't really stuck. He's probably going to get reelected in four.
Speaker 1: I feel like they are, you know, they were working
Speaker 1: with like still in the mind frame of like a
Speaker 1: mainstream media world where this sort of thing is would
Speaker 1: destroy his legacy. But it just like nobody nobody gives
Speaker 1: a ship, or at least the people who support him
Speaker 1: don't really give enough of a ship. It seems like
Speaker 1: it does prove like undoubtedly that they know that they
Speaker 1: like know the truth right, like, which I mean, I
Speaker 1: guess we always knew that, but it's just kind of
Speaker 1: striking to have it in their words that like, hey,
Speaker 1: this is these are our people. They listened to the
Speaker 1: president tell the president to tell them to call them off,
Speaker 1: because it's not that they're like, hey, Mark Meadows, please
Speaker 1: call up Commander Antifa and tell them to this has
Speaker 1: all gone too far, Like that's clear what they believe
Speaker 1: the chain of command is in order to reverse what's happening,
Speaker 1: was that Donald Trump needed to address them. Yeah, do
Speaker 1: you really think he's going to get reelected in I mean,
Speaker 1: they're and their rat fucking many election boards and things.
Speaker 1: So even if he numerically loses there will be chaos
Speaker 1: that who knows where that goes. Yeah, and I think
Speaker 1: it's there's there. The set up moves are just all
Speaker 1: there for his return. And I think we still haven't
Speaker 1: seen the party try and jettison him from what you know,
Speaker 1: what the whatever the actual GOP is. So we've seen
Speaker 1: the opposite, right, We've seen them make moves to like
Speaker 1: get rid of people who are critical of him, have
Speaker 1: them retire, or you know, they just get the message
Speaker 1: and retire on their own. Yeah, it's just the I
Speaker 1: think they're probably in the process of realizing, Okay, this
Speaker 1: is like these are new rules we're playing by and
Speaker 1: like getting coming around to the fact that they're part
Speaker 1: of a fascists like organization now and that's how things operate,
Speaker 1: like the you don't tell the leader of facial organization
Speaker 1: to like to tell people to stop. Yeah, And I
Speaker 1: think I think it's like kind of like, you know,
Speaker 1: we're starting, but we're seeing divisions, right like people like
Speaker 1: Dan Crenshaw, whether he thinks people like Lauren Bobert or
Speaker 1: Marjorie Taylor Green are getting too much attention. Clearly there
Speaker 1: is like a style. There are stylistic differences in these
Speaker 1: diet fascists who are like, don't go like two out
Speaker 1: in the open with it, like let that ship simmer
Speaker 1: so we can kind of keep things somewhat stable and
Speaker 1: then you know, when the time comes, we can do it.
Speaker 1: But like, leading with this stuff is just such bad optics,
Speaker 1: like that there's there is a better way. That's that's
Speaker 1: clearly there are some conservatives that believe that. But I
Speaker 1: think at this point, when you see things like David
Speaker 1: Perdue running against Brian Kemp in Georgia, with Trump backing
Speaker 1: Perdue and Brian Kemp, who at the you know, used
Speaker 1: to be a sort of maga darling, that what is like,
Speaker 1: how is that in fighting going to play out as well?
Speaker 1: And because there are people like him or Rhonda Santis
Speaker 1: who you know, like in succession, they have their eye
Speaker 1: on eventually that top spot. But at what point do
Speaker 1: you you know, realize we need to fucking move him
Speaker 1: aside or else I'm never going to get there. And
Speaker 1: I don't know how that's gonna play, you know, because
Speaker 1: everyone has their own desires. But I mean, right now,
Speaker 1: it seems like very light in fighting. But I'm curious
Speaker 1: to see how that evolves. While everyone has their own
Speaker 1: idea of just how you know, how quickly they need
Speaker 1: to accelerate to fascism, I guess. And the Kemp thing
Speaker 1: is baking in the message that like, okay, Kemp didn't
Speaker 1: help him overturn the results of the election, and therefore
Speaker 1: this is his punishment, and essentially it becomes the official
Speaker 1: punishment of the of the Republican Party because like that,
Speaker 1: that's he has much less funding and energy behind him
Speaker 1: now because he didn't help. It's also horrifying. My husband,
Speaker 1: the one who was right about the fish bowl fish
Speaker 1: tank situation, is very into politics and very dismal about
Speaker 1: what's happening in this country and also just about like
Speaker 1: what world are we leaving our kids and climate change
Speaker 1: and bubba, you know all the stuff. And I kind
Speaker 1: of have to like tune it out because it's too
Speaker 1: anxiety provoking for me. So to hear what you guys
Speaker 1: are saying is making me realize, like this is just
Speaker 1: as gloomy as it's actually more certain about the gloomy outlook.
Speaker 1: Or maybe he just hasn't been beating the like Trump
Speaker 1: thing in my face because he knows it will freak
Speaker 1: me out. But this is all just very dismal and
Speaker 1: we need to do something, is where I'm going with this.
Speaker 1: We need to take down well Cat and then we
Speaker 1: need to prevent this from happening on our list, and
Speaker 1: then we're Thomas Roy, We're coming for you. It just
Speaker 1: feels like the thing that makes me most pessimistic. And
Speaker 1: I will say I am on the I'm definitely on
Speaker 1: the more pessimistic side in terms of whether Trump will
Speaker 1: get reelected. I've heard a lot of people who think
Speaker 1: it's kind of a long shot, but that there doesn't
Speaker 1: seem to be the energy from the Republican or the
Speaker 1: Democratic Party to like challenge this, to like do the
Speaker 1: things that would be necessary to like step outside of
Speaker 1: the status quo. And I don't understand it. I don't
Speaker 1: understand no. And and like, you know, you just point
Speaker 1: to the fact that like they're from the White House
Speaker 1: and be like, yeah, man, you're gonna have to handle
Speaker 1: that student those student loans, man, that student loan debt.
Speaker 1: You better start thinking about how you can pay that back.
Speaker 1: And it's like, mother fuck, are you what excuse you?
Speaker 1: And it's you're almost being like, oh, so they're trying
Speaker 1: to just throw it. They're trying to throw it away,
Speaker 1: or they've gone to this thing where they're like Twitter
Speaker 1: is not real, or like people online aren't real and
Speaker 1: not realizing you know that the general tone of like
Speaker 1: what how Americans feel right now is just like lack
Speaker 1: and that needs to be addressed. And there isn't there
Speaker 1: aren't many We're talking about the child tax credit possibly lapsing.
Speaker 1: It's only like they're not doing really the like the
Speaker 1: just the bare minimum right for people are like, hey,
Speaker 1: this isn't too bad. It's like everything's been like, wait,
Speaker 1: they're really gonna fuck us over on that the equally,
Speaker 1: like the equation that worked for them in twenty was
Speaker 1: like a combination of Biden being the safe bet that
Speaker 1: like people thought was electable against you know, a very
Speaker 1: erratic last four years. But then he was also like
Speaker 1: claiming that he was going to do these like things
Speaker 1: that would help people's lives, and like, I feel like
Speaker 1: they were just they're just paying attention to the tap
Speaker 1: people were wrong that like anyone wanted someone progressive, like
Speaker 1: look at look at what happened to the primary and
Speaker 1: ignoring the fact that there you know, doing a bait
Speaker 1: and switch with like the progressive policies that they ran
Speaker 1: on and like the the idea that Biden was going
Speaker 1: to be the most pro union president of all time,
Speaker 1: and and then he like comes out and like won't
Speaker 1: even support the John Deere union when they like when
Speaker 1: it actually matters, like the I think they have told
Speaker 1: themselves because like the conventional wisdom had always been you
Speaker 1: go with like the guy who's going to be able
Speaker 1: to triangulate and get the conservatives and get the more progressives,
Speaker 1: and they're they're just going back to like, yeah, and
Speaker 1: that's what's gonna win the day again. But I think
Speaker 1: they're missing the fact that a lot of the energy
Speaker 1: came from him claiming that he was going to do
Speaker 1: the progressive things, and now that that lie has been exposed,
Speaker 1: it's just gonna be very hard for them to get
Speaker 1: the energy back. And meanwhile, Trump is going to be
Speaker 1: coming in running from the outside and you know, making
Speaker 1: a lot of wild claims that you know, he has
Speaker 1: the benefit of not being at all hemmed in by
Speaker 1: the laws of reality. And I also think too that
Speaker 1: they misread a lot of pulling where I've seen a
Speaker 1: lot of analysis of like based on who and who
Speaker 1: have like for people who vote for Democrats only the
Speaker 1: sliver of people call themselves progressives or leftists or you know,
Speaker 1: the socialists, and then you have the middle who are
Speaker 1: just more you know, regular democrats or whatever. And I
Speaker 1: think they're ascribing this need for aid and like transformational
Speaker 1: you know, social safety nets to only be the desire
Speaker 1: of this like left wing part of the Democrat voters
Speaker 1: and mistaking the fact that a plurality of Americans actually
Speaker 1: need help and would benefit from it. But relying on
Speaker 1: their ability to articulate who like their own political idea
Speaker 1: is a completely different challenge. I think really just asking people,
Speaker 1: could you use more money? Could you use this thing?
Speaker 1: And because that polling shows how like that's what's interesting
Speaker 1: is that polling shows overwhelming support for these policies, regardless
Speaker 1: of who's identifying as what, because at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, people are able to recognize help when it's
Speaker 1: there or something that would make their lives easier. But
Speaker 1: then getting caught and triangulating like well, I think we're
Speaker 1: only gonna lose like the like more radical progressives if
Speaker 1: we you know, hunt on student loan debt. But those
Speaker 1: people aren't the only people have student loan debt and
Speaker 1: that's I think another weird lesson that they're either not
Speaker 1: learning or have some really demonic calculus that they're trying
Speaker 1: to use for the mid terms. And I just don't
Speaker 1: see how I need of it helps. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and we'll come back and
Speaker 1: talk about less serious ship and we're back and memit
Speaker 1: Oz as we talked about, he's running for senate in
Speaker 1: Pennsylvania because his in laws live there, and I guess
Speaker 1: it's pretty crowded field, and so he it's a challenge,
Speaker 1: but he he feels he's up to it. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: he but he's pissed because the Philadelphia anquer has started
Speaker 1: referring to him as Mr oz m M and he's like,
Speaker 1: put some respect on my name, put some respect on
Speaker 1: my fucking title. And yeah, he came out swinging. I
Speaker 1: don't know why with this like walk and talk video.
Speaker 1: That's like, again, I don't know why he thought this
Speaker 1: needed production value because again, just to somebody who's directed videos,
Speaker 1: you should have your subject begin walking before you roll
Speaker 1: the camera. So it's not that awkward and I'm walking movement,
Speaker 1: But anyway, that's fine. That's yeah, that's a free tip
Speaker 1: from me. But here's him complaining about how he's been
Speaker 1: OMG canceled. Last week, the Philadelphia Inquire had me on
Speaker 1: their front page as Dr Oz. This morning they just
Speaker 1: announced no more doctor. They've been to a practicing position
Speaker 1: taking care of patients. I've done thousands of heart surgeries.
Speaker 1: They don't want to call me doctor anymore. I won't
Speaker 1: be canceled. Oh my god. Hell yeah. That video fucking
Speaker 1: rules man so dumb, Like like I love I love
Speaker 1: the little tilt shift depth of field. It felt very cinematic,
Speaker 1: but again just from you know, just a quick direction
Speaker 1: note you could have you could have trimmed the top
Speaker 1: down right, because doing it like that, it's like, and
Speaker 1: he's in a parking lot. I feel like he's going
Speaker 1: to tell me about the deals on cars they have.
Speaker 1: Crazy crazy oz Is, come on down right. He like
Speaker 1: throws the newspaper out of frame. Someone hands in him
Speaker 1: an umbrella from off camera. He picks its, like because
Speaker 1: it's raining deals and like the water comes down. But
Speaker 1: that's not the only thing. It's like that Dollar Shave
Speaker 1: club commercials. So you know, he he released this video.
Speaker 1: He's complaining about being canceled. But the thing is the
Speaker 1: Philadelphia inquired. They made a conscious decision not to be like,
Speaker 1: let's funk with doctor Oz, that they didn't want to
Speaker 1: use like these titles when reporting on candidates, Like they
Speaker 1: just don't want to have these honorifics to, you know,
Speaker 1: just to kind of a level playing field so people
Speaker 1: might not be swayed by this title. So they said, quote,
Speaker 1: do not use doctor on first reference for anyone with
Speaker 1: the title, whether they are a medical doctor or have
Speaker 1: a doctorate in a non medical field, to avoid complaints
Speaker 1: of unequal treatment from individuals who worked hard to achieve
Speaker 1: doctorates in non medical fields, because sometimes they'll only give
Speaker 1: doctor to like an m d. And it's in like,
Speaker 1: you know what, we don't need it. All they're saying
Speaker 1: is we don't want to just have it seem like,
Speaker 1: you know, there's any kind of our thumbs are on
Speaker 1: the scale in any possible way. They said. The only
Speaker 1: exceptions that they have are for obituaries and Dr Martin
Speaker 1: Luther King Jr. So shout out be Acquired inquired for that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, I think it's just clear that
Speaker 1: you know Oz, doctor Oz is like this TV character,
Speaker 1: and this whole campaign is about It's about brand awareness.
Speaker 1: He knows that he's not going to win because he
Speaker 1: has any kind of mind for legislation. He's there because
Speaker 1: in the culture Wars he's emerged as a willing, you know,
Speaker 1: embracer of bullshit pseudoscience to normalize it on TV. And
Speaker 1: so for him not being able to, like the thing
Speaker 1: with Donald Trump is Donald Trump was his brand name.
Speaker 1: You know, mement Oz is not Dr Oz's brand name.
Speaker 1: Doctor Oz is his fucking brand. So I think that's
Speaker 1: why he's just out here being like, I don't what
Speaker 1: they're canceling me, because that's my brand. It's Dr Oz Eraser.
Speaker 1: They're erasing him, if I understand correctly, it's their style guide.
Speaker 1: So it's not just for political candidates. It's like across
Speaker 1: the board. And I used to work in magazines that
Speaker 1: had style guides and things, and so it is an
Speaker 1: interesting debate because generally, you you always defer to the
Speaker 1: style guide, except you know, communication to the readers is
Speaker 1: more it is more important than the letter and the
Speaker 1: law of the style guide. So in a situation like this,
Speaker 1: and I'm not going to come out on his side
Speaker 1: because that would make me bark, But in a situation
Speaker 1: like this, where people do know him. I'm like, you're saying,
Speaker 1: this is brand as dr Oz. Do you make an exception?
Speaker 1: I don't think so, because in this context, right, you're
Speaker 1: trying to treat people as political candidates who are like
Speaker 1: people running for office, and you want to give people
Speaker 1: like you want to say, oh, this is Connor Lamb
Speaker 1: who is running, who's also running, Here's Jon Fetterman who's
Speaker 1: also running, and there you'll typically give a description momo
Speaker 1: Oz who is practicing blah blah blah blah blah. Like
Speaker 1: you know, if you're writing it up, you're not going
Speaker 1: to avoid mentioning, you know, what qualifications they may have
Speaker 1: or what they do for work as it relates to
Speaker 1: their candidacy. And if it was like little Kim running,
Speaker 1: they're not going to be referring to her in the
Speaker 1: paper as little Kim. No, they're going to call her.
Speaker 1: They're going to call her queen be put the HECKX
Speaker 1: on the whole family dressed in all black, like the
Speaker 1: women as her first and all about the Benjamin's goes.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think this is one of those moments
Speaker 1: where again it's the brand awareness and it's funny to
Speaker 1: be because there is another medical doctor running in this
Speaker 1: same race, Dr val Arcouche, And you know she said,
Speaker 1: I have no problem with this. That's fine. I'm really
Speaker 1: here to talk about these ideas I have. Is potentially
Speaker 1: a senator and not to say, like, because I'm a doctor,
Speaker 1: vote for me. And you know she's also not out
Speaker 1: here saying things because she's an actual obstetric anesthesiologists, like
Speaker 1: your vagina is a self cleaning oven. So you know,
Speaker 1: Dr val Arcus might have a little more sense than
Speaker 1: Dr Oz here. Yeah, this is also like so basically
Speaker 1: it's not that they created this rule. After doctor Oz
Speaker 1: like became a candidate. They wrote an article in which
Speaker 1: the front page headline and photo caption and first sentence
Speaker 1: I'll referred to doctor Oz as doctor Oz. And then
Speaker 1: they came out more like, actually, we realized that does
Speaker 1: not fit with our style guide, and like they were
Speaker 1: basically doing reacting to the reality you were talking about, Miles,
Speaker 1: that this is a brand doctor Oz, and like so
Speaker 1: that is how he exists in most people's brains as
Speaker 1: doctor Os. But like that is doesn't stick to it
Speaker 1: doesn't fit within the rules of their of their styles,
Speaker 1: so they didn't make a change which is what I
Speaker 1: assumed at first. It's just there was a mistake to
Speaker 1: run it as doctor first time. But the idea that
Speaker 1: we want to elect that TV personality into office as
Speaker 1: opposed to we want to lack this person of substance
Speaker 1: who happens to have a show the former terrifies me.
Speaker 1: It's what we've already done and it didn't go well,
Speaker 1: and apparently we're doing it again. We'll see. All right, Well,
Speaker 1: let's talk about Mr Big, not Dr Big, but it
Speaker 1: is officially his name, Mr Big. So this is going
Speaker 1: to be technically a spoiler for the Sex and the
Speaker 1: City reboot and just like that. So if you haven't
Speaker 1: seen that and for some reason are her like really
Speaker 1: holding out hope to be caught off guard by the
Speaker 1: twists and turns um and there is a big twist
Speaker 1: in the in the first episode, then maybe stop listening here. Okay,
Speaker 1: So in the first episode, we opened with Carry being
Speaker 1: married to Mr Big played by Chris Nof, and then
Speaker 1: at the end of the first episode, Big guys of
Speaker 1: a heart attack after exercising on his peloton bike. He's
Speaker 1: discovered by Carrie, who, despite the fact that he's clearly
Speaker 1: still alive, when she finds him, doesn't call an ambulance
Speaker 1: or anything for several minutes until her voiceover reveals that
Speaker 1: he died. It's a very strange, prolonged scene, like kind
Speaker 1: of on the level of that, Like it reminded me
Speaker 1: of the Lonely Island sketch with the where they keep
Speaker 1: shooting people in the music. Yeah that what you say thing,
Speaker 1: because it's just like, wait, so he's like he's still alive,
Speaker 1: but he's holding his arm. Criminal charges should be brought
Speaker 1: against Carrie on the bathroom floor, right, he's like in
Speaker 1: the bathroom shower, but like he's still like sees her
Speaker 1: focus on her. Maybe he but like he looks a
Speaker 1: little vacant, but definitely the move is to immediately call
Speaker 1: nine one one, as you're trying to, but instead she
Speaker 1: like jumps into the shower and then like starts hugging him,
Speaker 1: and I mean, you know, people react when experiencing grief
Speaker 1: and shock in different ways. But and then I think
Speaker 1: at one point she starts like trying to perform mounce
Speaker 1: in mouth on him, which seems weird because he's still
Speaker 1: But anyways, I don't know where they're like kissing, but
Speaker 1: it was like a weird like. I do not recall
Speaker 1: her doing any sort of resuscitation. It was just a
Speaker 1: real like and then you see her special shoes that
Speaker 1: she had worn that day, which she apparently wore when
Speaker 1: they got married. They get all wet. But it just
Speaker 1: seemed like a like, Oh, I'm just gonna hold you
Speaker 1: and it's inevitable that you're going to die, when in
Speaker 1: real life, probably in real life, there's there was probably
Speaker 1: time to do something right, right, Yeah, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a terrible reaction as someone's having a medical emergency,
Speaker 1: and yes, console somebody about my first thing is like,
Speaker 1: I don't know what the funk to do? Yeah, she
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, what what the fund is happening?
Speaker 1: Oh my god? You know she was just a heart attack.
Speaker 1: Hold on, I can also hold someone and be on
Speaker 1: the phone. Okay, Garry fuck It's yeah, it's probably just
Speaker 1: that writing, which I would say the this reboot thus
Speaker 1: far suffers from a great deal of Yeah, but they
Speaker 1: um yeah, so Peloton the news story. This became a
Speaker 1: news story because there hasn't been in recent memory a
Speaker 1: example of product placement that so directly kills one of
Speaker 1: the characters, like through its use as advertised. Basically, like
Speaker 1: the the idea that you're like democratizing like spin classes
Speaker 1: and like putting it in fifty something guys homes so
Speaker 1: they can like do the workout in the in the
Speaker 1: privacy of their own home. Like that is basically the
Speaker 1: pitch of Peloton, right, And that is also the exact
Speaker 1: thing that kills this guy, is that like he probably
Speaker 1: shouldn't be exercising as hard as he was. He probably
Speaker 1: shouldn't be exercising without somebody present. Well. It's also super
Speaker 1: weird though, because in the show and in the culture
Speaker 1: around the show, it is understood that this peloton ride
Speaker 1: is what did him in I guess, however, I feel
Speaker 1: like that doesn't have to be the truth, because someone
Speaker 1: who has a bad heart, like maybe he it was
Speaker 1: gonna go at that time no matter what he did.
Speaker 1: So I'm it's weird that in the show that's what
Speaker 1: they have seemed to the conclusion they seem to have
Speaker 1: reached because the second episode, someone's like, that fucking bike,
Speaker 1: it's it's Steve, and he says that fucking bike. That's right,
Speaker 1: all right, Miranda, But I just I don't think it's
Speaker 1: clear that that is what did it. I don't think so, right,
Speaker 1: But isn't that like why Peloton like had to act
Speaker 1: as if there's a whole forensic analysis or they're like whoa, whoa, whoa,
Speaker 1: what the fun right? Trying to put on the bike.
Speaker 1: They're like, he could have died fucking carry, you know,
Speaker 1: and you're gonna put this on the peloton, right. Look
Speaker 1: at his lifestyle and he smokes and he eats steaks,
Speaker 1: and uh maybe he has a history of it in
Speaker 1: his fictional family. Yeah, so they're just a writer. Jam
Speaker 1: looked up some other examples of like bad product placement
Speaker 1: that backfired on these massive corporations, so we don't really
Speaker 1: need to feel bad for them. But Coke wasn't thrilled
Speaker 1: that there. They had a commercial that appeared in Natural
Speaker 1: Born Killers, which is this very like postmodern cutting back
Speaker 1: and forth between different types of media, and Coke had
Speaker 1: one of their commercials intercut with footage of headless, bloody
Speaker 1: bodies and Natural Born Killers, which is decidedly against the
Speaker 1: Coke brand manifesto. As far as I yeah, yeah, right exactly.
Speaker 1: There can be blood, yeah, but the heads have to
Speaker 1: be attached. Reebok invested one point five million dollars in
Speaker 1: Jerry McGuire only to have one the one reference to
Speaker 1: Reebok in the movie be people Good and Junior shouting
Speaker 1: fuck Reebok. I think this one comes the closest, maybe
Speaker 1: too being like the Peloton one, being like the Peloton one,
Speaker 1: because like they got it in the movie and then
Speaker 1: they made fun of the one thing that is like
Speaker 1: the bad part of Reebok that it's like the lesser
Speaker 1: of the shoe brands. It's not who you would want
Speaker 1: to be sponsored by. You would want to be sponsored
Speaker 1: by Nike and so, and that is I think the
Speaker 1: context in which Cuba getting jewry shots fuck Rebot, so
Speaker 1: like that seems like it's close to what what we're
Speaker 1: talking about. Mad Men also always like routinely used real companies.
Speaker 1: But then there was the Jaguar incident when they get
Speaker 1: the Jaguar account. It's run by a really creepy piece
Speaker 1: of ship who would only give Don Draper his business
Speaker 1: that the company forced one of the characters to have
Speaker 1: sex with him, and then like as it that one
Speaker 1: also feels like like the Peloton thing struck me as like, okay,
Speaker 1: maybe the head writer of the Sex and the City
Speaker 1: reboot like has a personal beef with Peloton, like had
Speaker 1: a bad experience with Peloton and has a vendetta. The
Speaker 1: Jaguar mad Men example is also feels like that because
Speaker 1: not only is like the head of jag Jaguar a
Speaker 1: piece of ship, but then like the guy who brings
Speaker 1: in the business ends up kill himself, and he tries
Speaker 1: to do it by like putting a hose from the
Speaker 1: tailpipe of the Jaguar into his front driver's side window,
Speaker 1: but the car like fails, so that's the only thing
Speaker 1: that stops him from doing that, compounding the embarrassment. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: But anyways, Peloton in addition to having one of their
Speaker 1: medical advisors issue a note like talking about how big
Speaker 1: is a you know, unhealthy piece of ship and it
Speaker 1: wasn't there. It's not our bike. He fucking he's an
Speaker 1: unhealthy fat guy. Then also they partnered with Ryan Reynolds
Speaker 1: for some reason. He's not in the ad, but I
Speaker 1: think the Peloton wife ad that he counters. So they
Speaker 1: partnered with him to whip up a tongue in cheek
Speaker 1: commercial featuring Chrisnth and Jess King, the Peloton instructor from
Speaker 1: the show, and they they're basically like in a on
Speaker 1: a couch together and like saying, oh, let's go for
Speaker 1: a ride soon on the peloton, and like it's supposed
Speaker 1: to be like, uh, they're actually having fun. It ends
Speaker 1: up feeling like they're in like a creepy like purgatory
Speaker 1: afterlife and in which you have to like ride a
Speaker 1: peloton your entire within moments avoid going to hell. I like,
Speaker 1: you know Anna in the chat right now saying she
Speaker 1: suspects that there's this was a setup, that they knew
Speaker 1: what they were doing the whole time, that they were
Speaker 1: maybe in cahoots. That's a little difficult given how in
Speaker 1: the toilet like peloton is at the moment they're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that that will be cool, and then it'll it'll maybe
Speaker 1: mess up with the brain identity a little bit more.
Speaker 1: It is interesting not to be too cynical about it,
Speaker 1: but before I even heard actual reviews of the reboot
Speaker 1: when it aired, I saw all like I knew someone's
Speaker 1: to die because of a peloton. I didn't think it
Speaker 1: was going to be big. For some reason, I assumed
Speaker 1: it was the peloton teacher. I was confused, But I
Speaker 1: was seeing all these articles about the relationship you know
Speaker 1: about that shocking Peloton death, so clearly there was some
Speaker 1: kind of pr campaign, Like I don't think that that
Speaker 1: was right. So I think what happened for sure, they
Speaker 1: knew about it before we did, right, Peloton knew about
Speaker 1: it before we did. They got probably either had a
Speaker 1: screened for them or leaked out. And you know they
Speaker 1: have like corporations have intelligence agencies working for them, just
Speaker 1: the same as governments. So I'm sure they were all
Speaker 1: over it. I doubt that they encouraged them to, uh,
Speaker 1: like do this because a brands are like not that smart.
Speaker 1: They're not that kind of smart, right, they always like
Speaker 1: play shit safe. But also they have been killing people
Speaker 1: like recently and it's been a huge like hit to
Speaker 1: their share prices. Pelotons. Pelotons have been killing. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: that had a treadmill that killed a child, and there
Speaker 1: was a like call to issue a recall on their treadmills,
Speaker 1: and they you know pumped the brakes on that they
Speaker 1: wanted to examine whether that was the right thing to
Speaker 1: do based on how not profitable it was. You know
Speaker 1: what happened, But with the child, no, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I I think it involved like them getting stuck underneath
Speaker 1: or something. It's really horrifying. Treadmills in general are fucking dangerous.
Speaker 1: Exercise is terrible, you guys. Yeah, but exactly it's the devil,
Speaker 1: right ye, satanic panic. So I would say, don't hate
Speaker 1: Peloton for like killing a fictional character, hate them for
Speaker 1: fighting a recall for a product they knew led to
Speaker 1: the death of a child. And also their stock is
Speaker 1: like so a lot of people were reporting that the
Speaker 1: stock was down based on this storyline. The stock has
Speaker 1: been down like overall like across the you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't know that because I had heard that it
Speaker 1: went down in relation to this show. So I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: that actually not that I have, you know, not that
Speaker 1: my heart bleeds for Pelton, but like that does suck
Speaker 1: for them if this caused that. But no, this didn't
Speaker 1: cause that. It's that and they just they they over
Speaker 1: forecasted what they thought, you know, how many more sign
Speaker 1: ups they'd have in one without realizing like what reopening
Speaker 1: would do for people's exercise habits. Yeah, but I'm just
Speaker 1: surprised they didn't really put the knife in and carries
Speaker 1: like getting really specific to like slam Pelotons, Like, oh,
Speaker 1: my god, big, why did you take a power zones
Speaker 1: class with Alex Toussaint? You know it's too hard for
Speaker 1: you and like looking directing the camera those but who
Speaker 1: knows it was a real Peloton instructor who played the
Speaker 1: instructor in the show though they changed they changed the name,
Speaker 1: but did get the actual instructor to Allegra, Everyone's favorite
Speaker 1: anti histamine. They're saying, hey, what happened when you shot
Speaker 1: with the Sex and City? What what went down to anything?
Speaker 1: How is it with Peloton? Yeah, like that's another example
Speaker 1: of like how they probably like figured out, Oh yeah, nothing, nothing,
Speaker 1: It was really fun. Yeah, definitely didn't kill anyone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the guy died. I'm sorry, Mr Peloton. But I mean,
Speaker 1: I like this goes directly towards like what is a
Speaker 1: risk with Peloton, which is like, you know, you see
Speaker 1: him doing the workout and he's being like coach slash,
Speaker 1: like you know, yelled at by an instructor who's you know,
Speaker 1: hundreds of miles away from him, and but like is
Speaker 1: telling him to like you know, really step it up.
Speaker 1: And it's like he's a six year old guy, and
Speaker 1: like who probably thinks she's attractor? I mean they make
Speaker 1: jokes about how he thinks she's attractive throughout the show,
Speaker 1: so it's like, I don't know, it feels like that's
Speaker 1: not a great like set up for people not to
Speaker 1: die of heart attacks. Like That's what I'm curious about,
Speaker 1: is like how many people are dying? Could levy that
Speaker 1: against any exercise video service? You know, like if you're
Speaker 1: doing P ninety x or and you know, like stuff
Speaker 1: like that in the past, Like at a certain point,
Speaker 1: you have to know yourself and if you she sees me, Miles,
Speaker 1: she sees me she likes me to play Devil's advocate
Speaker 1: with P ninety X. Are you know what is typo?
Speaker 1: Is that what it was called? That? Um, you know
Speaker 1: that you're watching something taped, whereas with peloton there is
Speaker 1: the illusion that they that it is two ways and
Speaker 1: that it's unique, you know, the direction is like unique
Speaker 1: to you. And this is his thousand thriad and he's
Speaker 1: excited that he's going to get a shout out from
Speaker 1: the instructor who he has a crush on. So they're
Speaker 1: really just like kind of on the on it. But
Speaker 1: I'm like, in my mind, like that doesn't seem logical,
Speaker 1: you know, like to be like, no, man, these pelots
Speaker 1: they'll fucking kill you because they try and get you
Speaker 1: to do more than you can. That's you know you
Speaker 1: have a Peloton. Why is that relevant? Good question because
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna love Alex Tucson Power Zones class. I've
Speaker 1: noticed people who do peloton immediately become converts to it
Speaker 1: and are like it's actually pretty great, Like I kind
Speaker 1: of love it, and so I'm just curious. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: not going to do an ad for them right now
Speaker 1: based on what we've been talking about, but there's they're
Speaker 1: definitely parts of it where I'm surprised for me as
Speaker 1: such little motivation to exercise that something got my stinking
Speaker 1: asked to do something more than like for a week straight. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is what they say. This is what they say.
Speaker 1: That's what they say. That's how they get you. Next thing.
Speaker 1: You know, you're gonna be talking about my death on
Speaker 1: this thing. So you do have one comment. If I
Speaker 1: were to have one, I hope Peloton would understand what
Speaker 1: the value is of my brain ambassadors, particularly tumultuous time
Speaker 1: at the moment your chill for the bike. If you
Speaker 1: did have one, how many times would you find yourself
Speaker 1: using it like on a on a weekly basis, how
Speaker 1: frequently times a week? What? Four times a week, four day?
Speaker 1: If I did yeah, if if I did it? Which
Speaker 1: if I did it? By O. J. Simpson, it's about
Speaker 1: me owning a peloton. Yeah. Well, Allison, it's been such
Speaker 1: a pleasure having you as always. Where can people find
Speaker 1: you and follow you? Please? Uh follow me on social
Speaker 1: media at Allison Rosen. It's just one L A L
Speaker 1: I S O N R O SCN on Twitter and Instagram. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And is there a tweet or some of the work
Speaker 1: of social media you've been enjoying. Yes. So there is
Speaker 1: this woman she calls herself c J the Car Girl.
Speaker 1: I discovered her on TikTok. I'm pretty fairly new to TikTok.
Speaker 1: I was a whole about for a long time and
Speaker 1: now I'm like, wow, it really is as creative and
Speaker 1: addictive as everyone says. But anyway, Um, she's from Arkansas.
Speaker 1: She has this I could just listen to her talk
Speaker 1: all day because she has this great Arkansas accent. She
Speaker 1: used to work for car companies or car people who
Speaker 1: have sold cars or something. So she offers all these
Speaker 1: tips on ways that you don't get screwed when you're
Speaker 1: going to buy a car. So like the video that
Speaker 1: I first watched of hers was five questions never to
Speaker 1: answer on the car lot, like when you go and
Speaker 1: you're looking at a car, and if they say, oh,
Speaker 1: are you looking to pay cash or finance, which I
Speaker 1: always just answer, You're supposed to never answer that because
Speaker 1: the reason they're asking is to figure out like are
Speaker 1: they going to screw you on this part of the
Speaker 1: deal or on that? And there's like four others, there's
Speaker 1: five ones. She has corky, she's got a coregy peppy.
Speaker 1: I'm just super into her. So anyway, her name is
Speaker 1: CJ the car Girl, but on TikTok her her handle
Speaker 1: is smell like Bad Decisions, So smell underscore like underscore,
Speaker 1: bad Underscore decisions. Awesome. I reckon end her work miles
Speaker 1: Where can people find you? What the tweet you've been enjoying?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna find me on Twitter and Instagram at miles
Speaker 1: of Gray. And also the other pod four twenty Day
Speaker 1: Fiance was Sophia Alexandra talking about ninety day. First tweet
Speaker 1: I like is from at clap If you like me
Speaker 1: tweeted put the bed Bathroom Beyond coupon team in charge
Speaker 1: of distributing COVID tests. Yeah, so I'd have a fifteen
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Speaker 1: from DA so funny, this is from you underscore treated
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Speaker 1: of mine's dog is sick. Imagine working with Daniel day
Speaker 1: Lewis and Jeremy Strong on the set of Lincoln and
Speaker 1: you pull out your phone and they're like, oh what
Speaker 1: demon read probably accurate? Actually I don't even that was
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Speaker 1: the information that we talked about in today's episode, as
Speaker 1: well as a song that we think you might enjoy miles.
Speaker 1: What song do we think people might enjoy. It's rainy
Speaker 1: here in l A. It's gloomy, it's slow pace, some
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Speaker 1: you know this is the chopped and screwed version of
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Speaker 1: this is from Calm Trus we know producer who makes
Speaker 1: you know some really I like. I like the electronic
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Speaker 1: slowed down and like got a great synth sound and
Speaker 1: just overall I liked I like the sort of the
Speaker 1: energy of the of the tracks that he makes. And
Speaker 1: this track is called I Dream for You by Calm
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