Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to ten, Episode
Speaker 1: three Up. Guys to production by Heart Radio. This is
Speaker 1: a podcast where we take a deep dive into and
Speaker 1: you're never gonna believe this America's share consciousness. It's Wednesday, November.
Speaker 1: That is of course National Vanilla Cupcake Day, which means yes,
Speaker 1: I was getting there. It is National Penella cupcake dad,
Speaker 1: and nationally Forget Me Not Day. Okay. What does it
Speaker 1: forget me Not again? Is that that's a specific clown.
Speaker 1: This is no This was for like the Soldiers for
Speaker 1: November ten reminds Americans of the sacrifices returning soldiers have
Speaker 1: made bodies with. But it's also a flower symbolizing remembrance. Okay.
Speaker 1: And also the song that Men in Black is based
Speaker 1: off of melodically back you know forget Yeah. Anyway, I
Speaker 1: do not that it feels like a mismatch of like
Speaker 1: Forget Me Not feels like it should be like big
Speaker 1: band porn music, like sung by people with pompadours or something. Well,
Speaker 1: my name is Jack O'Brien. Dad had nineties shoes. There's
Speaker 1: not enough chance for me or for you loud kids.
Speaker 1: I'm too high. I wish we had named tags. Who
Speaker 1: is that guy? I? Yeah, I never know what to
Speaker 1: do with my hands. Has anyone heard about the cold
Speaker 1: gas study that courtesy of lex Movie? Just about my
Speaker 1: experience at kid's birthday parties which I hit. I actually
Speaker 1: hit a good one this past weekend, just by myself,
Speaker 1: no kids, you know, just checking them out. And I'm
Speaker 1: thrilled to be joined as always by my co host
Speaker 1: Mr Miles Gray in honor of the historic event at
Speaker 1: CPI here comes. She's a good girl, Reside clows her plastics,
Speaker 1: she calm posts and bikes the work each day. But
Speaker 1: Libby is out number every delegation in Glasgow by two
Speaker 1: dozen or more. And then green Green washing, Great green,
Speaker 1: great washing. Okay, shout out to Marky Markarelius for that one,
Speaker 1: because yes, we'll get into that. There seemed to be
Speaker 1: a lot more people repping the fossil fuel industry than
Speaker 1: actual global leaders at CP twenty six. I blame that
Speaker 1: girl for not starting to ride ride her bike to
Speaker 1: work sooner. I think that's what's gonna kill us all. Damn.
Speaker 1: You really went for it and got the with that.
Speaker 1: It was a risk. You know, sometimes you feet where
Speaker 1: you start what you're in I'm like fun, can I
Speaker 1: make it? And sometimes being every time for me? But
Speaker 1: by the way, mine was supposed to be a sharp
Speaker 1: dressed man. I don't know if that was clear. Okay, Okay, well, Miles,
Speaker 1: we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat
Speaker 1: by one of the very faces on Mountains eight more
Speaker 1: been way too damn long. He's a hilarious and brilliant writer,
Speaker 1: podcast host, and producer. He created the blog You As
Speaker 1: This Racist, and created and co host the podcast of
Speaker 1: the same name with the great Tony Newsom. He's a
Speaker 1: TV writer, but perhaps most influentially, he introduced us to
Speaker 1: the phrase gish gallop, which I have shoehorned into every
Speaker 1: conversation I've had since. Please welcome the brilliant, the hilarious
Speaker 1: Andrew t prophecied it is the return of the mud Tibere. Okay,
Speaker 1: I actually thought of one that was slightly topical two
Speaker 1: weeks off. But I saw doing y'all. Yeah, I saw
Speaker 1: the ship out of doing good. A few shut off
Speaker 1: your brain. I feel like, Okay, as long as you
Speaker 1: don't think about any of the subtext, it's pretty good.
Speaker 1: I have seen since the world open back up, I've
Speaker 1: seen three movies, like first there was a stutter step,
Speaker 1: Open back Up, and I saw F nine and I
Speaker 1: really liked that, the most recent stutter step, probably since
Speaker 1: the hospitalization rates are shooting back up. I saw Dune
Speaker 1: and I saw the French Dispatch in theaters and did
Speaker 1: the same We did the same thing. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: we should start going to movies together instead of me
Speaker 1: going by myself and creating people out. I did not
Speaker 1: like either of those, the second ones or the French Dispatch.
Speaker 1: I don't know if we're doing movie club, but Dispatch
Speaker 1: a little bit. I I will say I talked about
Speaker 1: it a little bit audios as Race is coming out
Speaker 1: to borrow. But it is wild that Wes Anderson decided
Speaker 1: that in our year, the Lord was the time for
Speaker 1: the Wes Anderson take on prison protests and cop It
Speaker 1: is like in a vacuum, if this movie had been
Speaker 1: made ten years ago, it's whatever, But right this second
Speaker 1: it is the most tone deaf thing. It's not even
Speaker 1: like bad exactly. I mean it's kind of, but it's
Speaker 1: the criticism. It was just like, how the fund did
Speaker 1: you live through the last two years and think I
Speaker 1: know what I want to go and the answer is
Speaker 1: he did not. He did not live through the last
Speaker 1: two years. He lives in a dollhouse, a life size
Speaker 1: I'm assuming. Yeah, his movies are always adorable. It's just
Speaker 1: very strange when they're on the subject of like things
Speaker 1: that happen. It's more about this my story. ARC think
Speaker 1: my he has changed remained the same since you know
Speaker 1: Rocket and I have come to realize I'm a different person. Yeah. Still,
Speaker 1: I went into it with hope because I did really
Speaker 1: like the Grand Budapest Hotel, but this one didn't really
Speaker 1: do it for me. Yeah, Man, Grand Budapest Hotel was
Speaker 1: the source of my tweet with my highest hopes and
Speaker 1: the less least payoff, which was naming the porn parody
Speaker 1: the Grand Booty Stressed Hotel. I really I remember tweeting
Speaker 1: it and being like, I guess I'm famous now, You're like,
Speaker 1: watch me get a fucking agent off the strength of this.
Speaker 1: Truly truly believed that, in my heart of hearts what
Speaker 1: I taped it out. I'm not already like programming the
Speaker 1: number at U T A to show up on your
Speaker 1: phone as and just like it'll be it'll be easier
Speaker 1: to just pop up, you know, what Costco was considered
Speaker 1: a failed writer in his time. But then you know,
Speaker 1: the people are going to rediscover that tweet in the
Speaker 1: Library of Congress, and yeah, you're gonna go down and
Speaker 1: the animals or anals in the Grand Booty stressed Hotel
Speaker 1: of History. All right, Andrew, we're going to get to
Speaker 1: know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
Speaker 1: a couple of the things we're talking about, talking about
Speaker 1: the twenty six not even like the best cop, Like
Speaker 1: cops are are not good, but this one, this one's
Speaker 1: really not not even a good, not even good for
Speaker 1: a cop. They're really funked up. We're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: Howard Schultz. We're gonna talk about Portugal and just like
Speaker 1: what it's like to work and live in a country
Speaker 1: where capital is not the only thing that has power.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about the new conspiracy influencer market because
Speaker 1: Demi Lvato has entered the game. Oh that plenty more.
Speaker 1: But first, Andrew, we do like to ask our guest,
Speaker 1: what is something from your search history? Something from my
Speaker 1: search history was hotel room workout. I I like started
Speaker 1: doing a little flying around because I have some some
Speaker 1: time between gigs, and yeah, I went to Dallas for
Speaker 1: like kind of no reason. My friend was just down
Speaker 1: there and I was like, when we know why you
Speaker 1: were there? Man. It actually literally was like like like
Speaker 1: as it was happening, and I was like, oh, ship,
Speaker 1: Like why did I take this? Well, it did explain
Speaker 1: a little bit why tickets were straight up seventy dollars
Speaker 1: to get to Dallas. Nobody wanted to go a handful
Speaker 1: of Yeah, but yeah, as and as a result, I've
Speaker 1: searched hotel room workout because I had never done. It
Speaker 1: makes sense that there's a you know, proliferation of like
Speaker 1: YouTube workouts in the last year and a half. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I started doing that ship. It is wildly embarrassing to do,
Speaker 1: but I think it worked. I feel like I was like,
Speaker 1: oh right, I'm sore and stuff. Yeah, felt sore just
Speaker 1: from you know, and it's it's the kind of ship
Speaker 1: where it's like if you if your hotel room comes
Speaker 1: with a chair, you could do that this type of
Speaker 1: trip and it's all the Yeah, it's all this ship
Speaker 1: underneath the table. Yeah, all right, I guess I guess
Speaker 1: this is how I have to live now. But but
Speaker 1: I've kept up with it. I think I like a
Speaker 1: little YouTube person yelling at me. Yeah, yeah, yeah exactly.
Speaker 1: I got the I remember, like back when I thought
Speaker 1: I would get ripped or something like that. I a
Speaker 1: friend of mine who was like really in the martial
Speaker 1: arts like gave me like this, like Nave like this
Speaker 1: Navy Seal had created a book that was just all
Speaker 1: about not needing weights and it was essentially like what
Speaker 1: you're describing, where it's like it's anywhere, just use your
Speaker 1: fucking make your body as strong as possible. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I got you know, it was fun for a while.
Speaker 1: But then part of me, like I did not know
Speaker 1: about proper weight distribution, almost pulled a fucking dining table
Speaker 1: like onto my throat and I was like yeah, like
Speaker 1: like it's that like you know, the world is your
Speaker 1: gym if you look at it right, and it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, but that's terrifying already the gym is can
Speaker 1: be a gym you want it to be, Like that's fine.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that that's the sort of you know person,
Speaker 1: I am apparently late to the game. I guess nowhere.
Speaker 1: Now I have my my new My next job starts
Speaker 1: uh after Thanksgiving, which is a weird time to start
Speaker 1: a TV writer's room, but they know what they're doing
Speaker 1: for two seconds and then you go for your break again.
Speaker 1: I'm told. I'm told some some show runners like that
Speaker 1: because you can kind of like get to know everyone
Speaker 1: and then noodle on whatever one came up with in
Speaker 1: two weeks and then new year with that. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know how this works. That's that that ship
Speaker 1: is significantly above my head. But yeah, if it's like
Speaker 1: the Vaulter scene in a succession, whereas like nood ale
Speaker 1: and give me your forty eight best ideas by tomorrow,
Speaker 1: be careful because that didn't end well for the Vaulter employees.
Speaker 1: I'm keeping I'm keeping a word doc right now because
Speaker 1: I I do. I'm like, I think every time you
Speaker 1: started new like writing job, it's like it feels wild
Speaker 1: and a little bit like they're never going to use this.
Speaker 1: But sometimes it's it's like a safety blanket to just
Speaker 1: come in with like fifty half baked ideas. Is that something?
Speaker 1: The is that something? Doc? Yeah? This is this? This cool?
Speaker 1: What do you think that? Like? I don't know. That's
Speaker 1: I don't know. I will just say sneak preview. This
Speaker 1: will make more sense once I can talk about what
Speaker 1: it is, but I've my ideas. Doc has the band
Speaker 1: You Be Forty as part of it and multiple bullet points,
Speaker 1: So I mean, as well as any idea, what was
Speaker 1: the thing with You Be Forty? Like getting in a
Speaker 1: fight with someone? Didn't somebody try to fight You Be Forty?
Speaker 1: Is that anyway? I see? Now this is gonna make
Speaker 1: my Google search even better? Who brought you before? Havana
Speaker 1: started a bar bar fight after You Be Forty concert?
Speaker 1: But I think it involved him wanting to fight the
Speaker 1: singer of You Be Forty. Maybe maybe that's just my
Speaker 1: weird slash thick that I have going on upstairs. That
Speaker 1: is straight off white excellence right there, right, Brett Kavanaugh
Speaker 1: versus the White was fighting Ali Campbell of You Be Forty.
Speaker 1: But it was just some other dude, I think. So
Speaker 1: Kavanaugh instigated the altercation by throwing ice at another man
Speaker 1: for quote some unknown reason. Oh, this is the one
Speaker 1: with Chris Dudley. I remember he was with Chris Dudley.
Speaker 1: Says states that Kavanaugh and his friends, which included future
Speaker 1: NBA player Chris Dudley, we're trying to determine whether the
Speaker 1: man was You Be forty singer Ali Campbell. H huh
Speaker 1: fuck Chris Dudley. I totally forgot about him. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: the guy who shocked dunked on and then he threw
Speaker 1: the ball at shack. Yeah yeah, what what the fuck?
Speaker 1: Kind of this is truly like the simulation really just
Speaker 1: ran out of pieces that day, right, Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: just random generating, like okay, red red Wine. Kavana said
Speaker 1: he liked beer like forty five times in the national media,
Speaker 1: so we're just gonna go with that. I don't know. Wow,
Speaker 1: truly amazing. What parts of the world did you see
Speaker 1: on your travels other than Dallas, if any just just
Speaker 1: Dallas in Atlanta? Yeah, my my sister's down in Atlanta.
Speaker 1: I I on a whim went down there and then
Speaker 1: on another whim got my booster shot. Like basically the
Speaker 1: second the c d C was like it's cool and
Speaker 1: um it was a thing where like my my physician
Speaker 1: in l A had been like, you know it's gonna
Speaker 1: be like you should like really, the supplies are going
Speaker 1: to be limited, and da da da, And I got
Speaker 1: to Atlanta and I like walked into a CVS and
Speaker 1: they were like, you want a booster shot? And I
Speaker 1: was like, yes, I was actually gonna buy this toothpaste
Speaker 1: in from out of town. All right, well if you want.
Speaker 1: When we got yeah, truly it was like I got
Speaker 1: like booster shot and like chicken tenders in like a
Speaker 1: ten minute span, and I was like, God, this is
Speaker 1: this is the most guy with nothing to do in Atlanta. Ship.
Speaker 1: I'm taking my boy to get his shot this morning,
Speaker 1: actually this Wednesday morning, pretty saying stuff amazing. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: kid one, the kid one. It's just one of those
Speaker 1: retractable needles that they put up. What is uh, what's
Speaker 1: something you think is overrated? Being paranoid about buying fake shit?
Speaker 1: Like I think it's partially because specifically the Chinese people
Speaker 1: I hang out with have started to come into a
Speaker 1: little money, so their asses are all buying rolexes and
Speaker 1: ship and I'm not there, and I I suspect I'm
Speaker 1: even if I could kind of afford it, would not
Speaker 1: be that type of person. So what I did do,
Speaker 1: I'm wearing it right now, really happy with it. I
Speaker 1: got a reissue that is possibly fake from Ali Baba
Speaker 1: of like the Communist Military Chinese Watch, and it is
Speaker 1: like like it was like a hundred eighty dollars. It
Speaker 1: arrived in like the most like literally like it arrived
Speaker 1: in a plastic box that then looked like it was
Speaker 1: just like raft in basically paper towels, and then like
Speaker 1: like a child had like used like clear plastic tape,
Speaker 1: like it looks like I guess it looks It looked
Speaker 1: most like a sort of like if I had to
Speaker 1: design an I e ed and I had ten minutes
Speaker 1: to do it. So I was like, ship, what what
Speaker 1: what do I have around? Like bomb maker? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 1: It was like so yeah, but you know, it arrived
Speaker 1: and then I was like, man, I don't did did
Speaker 1: I buy this from Ali Baba? Did I get ripped off?
Speaker 1: And I was like, who gives a fuck? I'm down.
Speaker 1: I am now not that ali Baba is less evil
Speaker 1: than like Amazon, but it's sort of like differently evil.
Speaker 1: That's another marketplace. I was gonna say, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: I look at replica watches when eighties sounds like a
Speaker 1: lot off there? Did you look d H game? Did
Speaker 1: you check out? Was? So it might be real? Is
Speaker 1: the thing? Because they're telling you you're buying like a
Speaker 1: like a the genuine article rather than yeah, so so
Speaker 1: the thing is that the nnuine article. This is for
Speaker 1: anyone that gives a fun This is a Seagull nineteen
Speaker 1: sixty three chronometer. And even the genuine article is arguably
Speaker 1: a fake because it's like the factory. Yeah, so the
Speaker 1: factory in Tangent in the sixties fifties like either stole
Speaker 1: the design or licensed it from It's like a Swiss
Speaker 1: design that they kind of stole. I'm not really clear
Speaker 1: on all the details. Anyway, It's like bootlegs on top
Speaker 1: of bootlegs. I am embracing the Chinese nous of it.
Speaker 1: Good about it in general, I think, you know, with
Speaker 1: like replica of fashion, like you know, knockoffs becoming like
Speaker 1: a whole other level like versus like when we were kids,
Speaker 1: and it's like what's on Canal Street or like the
Speaker 1: alley like ship now is like people are getting away
Speaker 1: with selling it on stock X, which is supposed to
Speaker 1: be thousands of dollars shoes that are replicas that are
Speaker 1: made abroad, and like, I just like how it up,
Speaker 1: like the outrage that it inspires in people who insist
Speaker 1: on paying like thousands of dollars for something where you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's fake, dude, Like I'm like, you don't, Like you're
Speaker 1: a kid and your whole value system is based on
Speaker 1: buying a thousand dollar pair of shoes, like I hope
Speaker 1: your brain melts down when you see about these for
Speaker 1: a hundred. Well, and it is like, what is the utility?
Speaker 1: It is the same thing with like the su n
Speaker 1: f T s right, Like what is the actual utility
Speaker 1: of ownership of a thing with only aesthetic value? Like
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't need a watch to tell the time.
Speaker 1: In fact, I did. I did like the most actually
Speaker 1: pathological thing in the movie Theater the other day, which
Speaker 1: is I used my phone to illuminate my watch hands
Speaker 1: so I could check is straight up broken. I gotta
Speaker 1: see how much longer is left in this movie? Which
Speaker 1: movie it was? It was French Dispatch. I'm just I
Speaker 1: can't the ship. Yeah anyway, embrace embrace the fakes, y'all. Yeah,
Speaker 1: It's an idea that like should have, like found it's time.
Speaker 1: It makes total sense, But I just feel like it's
Speaker 1: too like the idea of just reps replacing like becoming
Speaker 1: the thing that matters, Like I just can't it's too
Speaker 1: like well damaging to the foundational like ethos of our
Speaker 1: country that I feel like they're gonna find a way
Speaker 1: to like end that. Yeah, well that's why I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's also like ripping off the communist design. I'm like,
Speaker 1: all right, the other thing with the other I will say,
Speaker 1: the other option with this watch that this company Seagull sells,
Speaker 1: they were selling a like watch. I think my Chinese
Speaker 1: is not good enough. It would have taken me forever
Speaker 1: to actually read all the Chinese. But it appeared to
Speaker 1: be commemorating the partitioning of Korea. It was like it
Speaker 1: was like the parallel celebration anti US watch. Hell yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like that's dope. And it was like that's like
Speaker 1: probably a bridge too far for me to buy, but right,
Speaker 1: very god tense. Yeah, anything that would outrage rich people,
Speaker 1: I think it's great. You know. Yeah, this one was.
Speaker 1: I was like, I think my South Korean friends would
Speaker 1: be like that's kind of fun up, Okay, no, but
Speaker 1: I mean I think of even like because you look
Speaker 1: at Gucci and stuff, their designs are starting to mimic
Speaker 1: what a knockoff would be. Like a lot of their
Speaker 1: hoodies now, like with the sort of crude screenprint design
Speaker 1: and like throwback aesthetic, like they're sort of echoing the
Speaker 1: pirated material. Wasn't that the story of the Big Polo? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think so. And but it's also funny to see
Speaker 1: people like who are like man like get so heated
Speaker 1: about someone who paid seventy dollars for the thing that
Speaker 1: looks exactly like their thousand dollar thing. Yeah, and I'm
Speaker 1: because they need the exclusivity. Yeah, And I'm like, that's
Speaker 1: an mindset baby challenge that Ship more be like I
Speaker 1: don't give a funk. Yeah, I mean, I mean horrifically
Speaker 1: fake versacci. It doesn't mean anything, right. What is something
Speaker 1: you think is under it underrated? I did this yesterday
Speaker 1: for breakfast, eating a per simmon at like an apple,
Speaker 1: just standing at my sink. I was I was gonna
Speaker 1: eat a persimmon and the firm kind, not the not
Speaker 1: the one that needs to be tomato kind. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I was. It was like I was like, I tore
Speaker 1: the stem off, and I was like, Ship, this is
Speaker 1: a little riper than I thought. But I was like,
Speaker 1: I already tore the stem off. I just took a bite, like,
Speaker 1: you know, sort of laterally into it, and it was
Speaker 1: really good. I love morenot me up, per Simmon. I mean,
Speaker 1: you guys get invested. Like we said with a Sharne
Speaker 1: coming on saying, this is the time for per Simmons.
Speaker 1: I feel like and now you're saying, I like see
Speaker 1: there's a momentum golong with pers per Simmon season. They're
Speaker 1: they're mad, they're mad cheap at a little Tokyo marketplace. Done.
Speaker 1: So is it like a fool you, per Simmon or
Speaker 1: what kind of Yeah, that's the Is that the firmer one? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think so, you know, I'm I'm Persimmon ignorant. So yeah,
Speaker 1: the fool you, Yeah, yeah, they're they're the ones that
Speaker 1: they're the ones that you don't have to worry about.
Speaker 1: The other one has a very small ripeness window. And
Speaker 1: outside of that ripeness window, it's actually like kind of gross.
Speaker 1: It's like very a stringent, like if you like, it's
Speaker 1: just like kind of like, I guess it's base pret
Speaker 1: too much base. It's literally got too much base, much base.
Speaker 1: It's always been by problem. But the fool you, the
Speaker 1: food you is sort of like good even if it's
Speaker 1: under ripe, it'll just sort of taste like you know,
Speaker 1: like an under ripe apple, like a little green taste
Speaker 1: but not like you know, disgusting. Yeah, that's yeah. And
Speaker 1: when they're ripe, they're they're the best food. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I just I just eight that ship standing at the
Speaker 1: sink with a cup of coffee and a persimmon like
Speaker 1: a spring up lunatic, like a big towel in your collar,
Speaker 1: your shirt kind of. I think I was wearing a
Speaker 1: bathrobe a ball of the tomato the other kind. And
Speaker 1: when you just like mentioned this, I was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I've like been letting them ripe in in a closet.
Speaker 1: I should I should go check on those. And then
Speaker 1: you're like, yeah, they're they have like a one minute
Speaker 1: in the window. Yeah, but it's it's so good in
Speaker 1: the window. It is like it truly is just like
Speaker 1: putting grew on a tree, like it's so insane, so
Speaker 1: good good persimmon. Man, I'm gonna go to the farmer's
Speaker 1: market and be like, yo, cut me the best one, right,
Speaker 1: fucking yeah. I need to know because half the time,
Speaker 1: like I pull them off of friends trees and stuff,
Speaker 1: and they're like, nook, they're they're good off there, But
Speaker 1: I don't know which one to pick. Yeah, yeah, it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: let them let them the firm ones, let them get
Speaker 1: like a little like soft like a like a maybe
Speaker 1: like overripe avocado like consistency, like you can like that.
Speaker 1: You can't push all the way through it, but you can.
Speaker 1: You know, it has a significant give. Yeah, but man,
Speaker 1: I love a love a fucking persumment. Yeah, it's pursumm
Speaker 1: in season, is it. It's probably probably just out of it,
Speaker 1: but just generally culturally, it's per Simmons season. Oh and
Speaker 1: you can get the dried per Simmons, which is I
Speaker 1: think Japanese. Maybe it's a Korean thing, but those are
Speaker 1: those are good all the time. It's and during the
Speaker 1: summer dried for Simmons and like a little whiskey after
Speaker 1: dinner was like a perfect combination. As all right, let's
Speaker 1: take a quick break and we'll come back and talk
Speaker 1: about the COP twenty six. And we're back, and let's
Speaker 1: check in with some headlines on you know, the COP
Speaker 1: twenty six. The all the most powerful countries in the
Speaker 1: world coming together to solve climate change. What we got,
Speaker 1: I mean must be dominating headlines, right, yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: let's see NBC has one It says his country is sinking.
Speaker 1: So he's rolling up his ants to make the point
Speaker 1: at CPI, that's very cutting, illuminating, gives me a complete
Speaker 1: understanding of the progress that's being made climate of climate change,
Speaker 1: combating climate change, right by Wes Anderson. Four guy rolls
Speaker 1: up pants because Earth death. That's not very revealing. And
Speaker 1: then I went on CNN. I did a command f
Speaker 1: find to just see if cp S come up. Nothing
Speaker 1: on the front page. ABC. Nothing on the front page.
Speaker 1: Pretty disturbing considering that this is, you know, a lot
Speaker 1: of people saying the most important conference of this year
Speaker 1: and the near future to begin to tackle climate change,
Speaker 1: and you and this is on top of like reports
Speaker 1: that came out yesterday morning from the Climate Action Tracker,
Speaker 1: which is like a watchdog organization, that said, based on
Speaker 1: like everything they're seeing, the global greenhouse gas emissions in
Speaker 1: twenty will still be roughly twice as high as what's
Speaker 1: necessary to limit warming to one point five degrees. Mhm uh,
Speaker 1: it's looking like it's more on track be two point four.
Speaker 1: And the other thing is that they say, quote the
Speaker 1: net zero goals of forty countries account of global emission cuts,
Speaker 1: but the group found only six percent of those emissions
Speaker 1: were backed up by concrete plans. Right, So a lot
Speaker 1: of fucking talk. And here's the other thing that I
Speaker 1: think is really interesting. It's only on more like progressive
Speaker 1: news sites are like activists sort of you know web
Speaker 1: places where sort of like the substantive information is being held.
Speaker 1: Where this glaring statistic came up, which was born out
Speaker 1: of this group called Global Witness, which did just some
Speaker 1: research at C six that said, here's the thing. Quote,
Speaker 1: if the fossil fuel Lobby were a country delegation at
Speaker 1: cop it would be the largest, with five hundred three delegates,
Speaker 1: two dozen more than the largest country delegation. Okay, that's right,
Speaker 1: so there are more. It's like the corporation. They have
Speaker 1: more people representing the fossil fuel industry than the buying
Speaker 1: delegations of the eight worst affected countries by climate change. Sure,
Speaker 1: this is the this is the dynamic currently at this thing.
Speaker 1: But we're talking about this guy is rolling up his
Speaker 1: pant legs. Yeah, I mean isn't that good though? I
Speaker 1: mean think about it, like BP now does all those
Speaker 1: clean energy ads so like they're probably right, I don't know,
Speaker 1: they're probably being influenced by this so you tell me
Speaker 1: who wins. I'm just saying there's a there was a
Speaker 1: global witness was also saying that if you go inside
Speaker 1: right to some of like the convention halls where you
Speaker 1: know there's presentations done on quote unquote energy transition, you know,
Speaker 1: like getting away from the dirty ship and onto the
Speaker 1: good ship, you know that that's the same companies like
Speaker 1: Shell or you know, like the national gas companies of
Speaker 1: different countries out there just being like, you know, for example,
Speaker 1: one thing will be like, yes, we're touting hydrogen as
Speaker 1: a new clean fuel source, and then if you look
Speaker 1: at the fine prints, like we will use fossil field
Speaker 1: fossil fuel generated electricity in the production of this hydrogen,
Speaker 1: and you're like, so, what the fuck is this because
Speaker 1: you're just saying, well, we've still got to use it
Speaker 1: to make good stuff. I guess the little tiny argument,
Speaker 1: which is not what they want, is like if everyone
Speaker 1: would have had like hydrogen cars or whatever, it would
Speaker 1: be easier to change like that electricity to whatever nuclear
Speaker 1: fusion at some point in the future. It's like it
Speaker 1: gives us at least the mechanics to get off of
Speaker 1: fossil fuels. Even though as I say that the fact
Speaker 1: that Shell paid for it means that's not the plan. Yeah.
Speaker 1: At the same time, BP now does standford beyond petroleum,
Speaker 1: So I don't know if you guys knew that, Oh
Speaker 1: that's the vegan petroleum that's like soybeans. It is literally
Speaker 1: probably made out of soybean inside everything is I think
Speaker 1: that's just so frustrating, right, It's like, truly, there's there
Speaker 1: has to be a reckoning and you know, a real
Speaker 1: acknowledgement of like class struggle and mobility as it relates
Speaker 1: to all of this. But instead you have like the
Speaker 1: richest assholes circle jerking so they can hopefully in their minds,
Speaker 1: just die peacefully while we're all left to deal with
Speaker 1: like the real funked up parts. Yeah, and like it
Speaker 1: just feels so you know, like empty. I will say
Speaker 1: the poll quote about the fossil fuel lobby, let's see
Speaker 1: more than the combined delegations of the eight worst affected countries.
Speaker 1: There is probably something to be said for like the
Speaker 1: worst eight worst affected countries. I would that money are
Speaker 1: the eight poorest countries in the world or near near that,
Speaker 1: And and there is probably a thing where it's like, yes,
Speaker 1: those people need to be there to advocate for themselves,
Speaker 1: but like they're you know, their their stance is sort
Speaker 1: of clear, and they're fighting, like what what are they
Speaker 1: gonna do at this conference, Like hey, stop doing this
Speaker 1: to us and Americo will say no, which is happening now,
Speaker 1: like as by that NBC article where you know this,
Speaker 1: I think somewhere in Polynesia, this representative is like, you know,
Speaker 1: trying to be like this is where the water's at,
Speaker 1: you know, by rolling up and then yeah, it's true,
Speaker 1: there's indigenous activists. There's so many activists there as well,
Speaker 1: screaming at the top of their lungs and they're like
Speaker 1: this whole thing is absurd, like when you walk into it,
Speaker 1: like these people, this is not has nothing to do
Speaker 1: with like our sincere reckoning with what you know, what
Speaker 1: our energy mixes and our carbon emissions are. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then the class of it is like by the time,
Speaker 1: even like middle class American voters feel some of this
Speaker 1: in a reasonable sense, like the rest year, it's beyond
Speaker 1: too late, beyond too late. Yeah, it's it's an apocalypse,
Speaker 1: but it's vegan. It's great. I also feel like the
Speaker 1: way this is adding a lot of brains is that
Speaker 1: you know, people are probably like aware that not enough
Speaker 1: is being done, but then like Greta Thumberg is being
Speaker 1: like turned into I don't know. I was listening to
Speaker 1: like a not serious podcast that just is sort of
Speaker 1: people riffing, and like they were talking about Greta Thunberg
Speaker 1: is like this, like the world is ending, we must
Speaker 1: all like sort of doom and gloom type ship. And
Speaker 1: I just feel like people are I don't know that
Speaker 1: that's like the face of climate change is now just
Speaker 1: gonna be like negative, like yeah, it's a bunch. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's Cassandra. It literally is just like she could just
Speaker 1: predict the future as much as she wants, but no one,
Speaker 1: you know, no one will believe it. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I think despite her like very clear eyed, like this
Speaker 1: is horseship assessment of what's happening. I think the other
Speaker 1: side of that is that there are a lot of
Speaker 1: people now that like dumerism is becoming of an attractive
Speaker 1: proposition to certain groups to just insist that ship's fucked,
Speaker 1: it's too late, don't even fucking bother and let's just
Speaker 1: accept it. And that's just like good, yeah, absolutely not
Speaker 1: like things can be done. And I think it's an
Speaker 1: absurd notion to just say, let's just lean into the
Speaker 1: dumerism aspect of it. But it's hard to stay optimistic
Speaker 1: when you see the people that are supposed to be
Speaker 1: making the decisions be like, yeah, and we'll give you
Speaker 1: a little bit of money to come back climate change.
Speaker 1: And also that's a debt generating loan. Right Yeah. The dumerism,
Speaker 1: I would suspect is like fueled by the Koke Brothers.
Speaker 1: But I feel like even they have to understand that
Speaker 1: are funded by them. But I feel like even they
Speaker 1: have to understand that that only goes so far before
Speaker 1: people just start eating the Koke Brothers, right likely. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but then it's like arguing about whether to eat the
Speaker 1: Koke Brothers is what you know, defends them, defends their
Speaker 1: power for another couple of years, and then yeah, let's
Speaker 1: check in with somebody who's a little bit more down
Speaker 1: to earth, and that is your boy, our boy, Howard Schultz. Yeah,
Speaker 1: who is you know, He's not like specifically mentioning the
Speaker 1: fact that like some of his stores are thinking about unionizing,
Speaker 1: a bunch of his employees are thinking about unionizing. He's
Speaker 1: just like throwing out stories that he knows. Just Hey,
Speaker 1: you guys about to vote putting this out there, I
Speaker 1: don't know, you guys about to vote on you can unionizeing? Okay, alright, alright,
Speaker 1: Well I just want to say hey, I'm hey, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm Howard, just a guy, concerned shareholder. In fact, I'm
Speaker 1: the largest shareholder of Starbucks stock. I used to be
Speaker 1: the CEO, UM, but I just wanted to come talk
Speaker 1: to you about you know, you got this important vote
Speaker 1: coming up, and I just kind of want to extol
Speaker 1: the virtues of Starbucks as a company. So he went
Speaker 1: to go lobby these workers in a Buffalo where three
Speaker 1: stores are going to vote on unionizing, which could have
Speaker 1: vast implications not just across Starbucks, but in like the
Speaker 1: quick service industry because they have such a large share
Speaker 1: of workers. And this man had the hopes of Chippotle
Speaker 1: on his shoulders as he went up in front of
Speaker 1: these people. How are you gotta na this one, bro,
Speaker 1: We're gonna don't make money. So they've been first of all,
Speaker 1: Starbucks be doing all kinds of union busting ship up
Speaker 1: until this point, you know, like having mandatory anti union meetings,
Speaker 1: anti union emails, they temporary closed to unionizing stores under
Speaker 1: the guise of like, no, we it's a training way
Speaker 1: to do a training day, That's what it was. And
Speaker 1: then Denzel Washington made them smoke BCP on accident and
Speaker 1: then made a fire them because they passed. They popped
Speaker 1: on their drug test. You know, they gave pay raises
Speaker 1: to sort of be like, here's maybe more bread and
Speaker 1: a circus or two will keep them at bay. None
Speaker 1: of that has really been working. So he went on
Speaker 1: to speak and he said all this stuff about like
Speaker 1: just being like, oh, we did we got you know,
Speaker 1: stock options for you guys. We're doing healthcare before other people.
Speaker 1: And you know, I'll be fair, their benefits are pretty
Speaker 1: good as compared to other, you know, comparable jobs, but
Speaker 1: let's be real in terms of like your humanity not
Speaker 1: doing enough. And so everyone was just sort of like
Speaker 1: they're kind of like, yeah, we get it. It's so great.
Speaker 1: What's what's your point here? Until the end of his
Speaker 1: forty five minute discussion, he evokes the Holocaust and he
Speaker 1: as he says before, he's like, I'm Jewish. I went
Speaker 1: to speak to a rabbi when I was in Israel
Speaker 1: and he told me this story and it just really
Speaker 1: resonated with me, and he begins telling this room full
Speaker 1: of Starbucks employees about the altruism that was happening during
Speaker 1: the Holocaust. So let me play this for you. Men
Speaker 1: was separated from women, and women was separated from children,
Speaker 1: and one person for every six was given a blanket,
Speaker 1: one blanket for every six people. And the person who
Speaker 1: got the blanket had to decide what to do with
Speaker 1: this blanket that I have for myself. And not everyone,
Speaker 1: but most people. Most people shared their blanket with five
Speaker 1: other people. And the Rabbi says, to me, take your
Speaker 1: blanket and go share it with five other people. And
Speaker 1: so much of that story is threaded into what we
Speaker 1: have tried to do at Starbucks. Share. Oh that is amazing.
Speaker 1: Like I had read that this happened, but I hadn't
Speaker 1: heard it until just now. It's the idea of sharing
Speaker 1: is so profound, is so like mind bending, like that
Speaker 1: even just what I'm saying, maybe they need insurance, You're right,
Speaker 1: what the fuck he's like? And then they didn't keep
Speaker 1: it for themselves and let everybody else freeze their death.
Speaker 1: Wait a second, hold on, take me back a little bit.
Speaker 1: Let's row one a second, because you said that only
Speaker 1: one person for every six guy, So what the funk
Speaker 1: would they? What are you talking about? Man? They're probably
Speaker 1: not as warm as they could be. But I did, Rabbi.
Speaker 1: I did share it with as the CEO. I shared
Speaker 1: it with the CEO, the s VP of global strategy,
Speaker 1: the CFO that you know, the the c suite people
Speaker 1: like and we split the profits. It was a great
Speaker 1: blanket we shared. But in this instance, the idea that
Speaker 1: I'm sorry man, like this metaphor that the multinational corporation
Speaker 1: is in the is that they're in the trend car.
Speaker 1: There's another workers like and saying like we gotta work together. Man.
Speaker 1: It's like if anything in this you would be the
Speaker 1: Nazis because they were they were in control of blanket distribution,
Speaker 1: and you are here giving people one fucking blanket, like
Speaker 1: like a really considered the power dynamics here well, also
Speaker 1: like that. The weird thing about the metaphor is it
Speaker 1: doesn't work because it's like it falls apart in the
Speaker 1: most people and then it falls apart what he says,
Speaker 1: but not everybody. And it's like, hey, guess what if
Speaker 1: they were in a union, maybe even if like everybody
Speaker 1: would have had to share their blankets, and it would
Speaker 1: have been the right thing to do, and it would
Speaker 1: have elevated all of us. But like it actually is,
Speaker 1: like I don't know that all those like needless people
Speaker 1: freezing to death is exactly what the Union does. This
Speaker 1: is who you want in charge of your life is
Speaker 1: somebody who like this is also a story apparently he's
Speaker 1: told at like shareholder meetings, somebody who has one anecdote
Speaker 1: that has just like fucking stabbed into their brain. Like
Speaker 1: what the funk, man, I'm you guys have my mind
Speaker 1: is fucking blown here. So what they one person gave
Speaker 1: it to the other people. It's just like it doesn't
Speaker 1: even make fucking sense. But like he thinks there's one
Speaker 1: historical instance of selflessness and sharing that he keeps fucking
Speaker 1: bringing up. And this is the person you want in
Speaker 1: charge of, like your tiny mitigating factor is. I did
Speaker 1: think this was a more classic anti union parable, and
Speaker 1: I for a moment truly thought the punchline was going
Speaker 1: to be and everyone who shared, all six people died,
Speaker 1: but everybody kept the blacket for themselves at least wanted
Speaker 1: six or five. Yea happen at your stores. I don't
Speaker 1: know we're looking, they're kind of underperforming, so we may
Speaker 1: shut him down. I don't know, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't like it's it's really something else, especially when you
Speaker 1: have this man who became a billionaire off the backs
Speaker 1: of the people he's talking to in that room, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, and just being like, hey man,
Speaker 1: I'm just look, I know I've been extracting all of
Speaker 1: my wealth from your labor. I'm just asking for like
Speaker 1: a momentary pause in the smoke and just maybe this
Speaker 1: story will will just persuade you. I will say. Obviously,
Speaker 1: you know, listeners can't see the video, but maybe they
Speaker 1: can find it. Maybe it's link in the show. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know how it's on Starbucks official channel.
Speaker 1: It is, truly though. Actually it's been a while since
Speaker 1: I've seen like a Radisson hotel room configured quite the
Speaker 1: way it was, because it was basically like hotel chairs,
Speaker 1: but it was in the round. So he's like, a yeah,
Speaker 1: just what a what an unnerving way to to your
Speaker 1: fourced anti union speech. Very unpleasant office to say, it
Speaker 1: did not go. I mean, I don't know, a lot
Speaker 1: of people were just left confused. But the voting is
Speaker 1: supposed to begin this week, actually today, but Starbucks has
Speaker 1: been trying to delay that vote from happening. But you
Speaker 1: know what, hats off to use Starbucks, fucking get your ship,
Speaker 1: hands off to your assets. Yeah, let's just check in
Speaker 1: real quick with what it's like in other countries where
Speaker 1: a capital doesn't have all the power and people like
Speaker 1: Howard Schultz is not like the person in charge of
Speaker 1: making all the decisions, and like pro labor laws actually stick.
Speaker 1: Portugal has made it so a lot of businesses are
Speaker 1: committing to remote work being part of our new reality
Speaker 1: and our new reality. They're giving more flexible options to
Speaker 1: their employees, and you know, people are asking for their
Speaker 1: to be like some boundaries that they can like put
Speaker 1: up between their home life and their work life, because
Speaker 1: that is something that will happen when you work from home.
Speaker 1: Is that like suddenly you're just working around the clock.
Speaker 1: And so Portugal had a kind of unique take on this. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're helping, you know, according to their Socialist party government
Speaker 1: have released their new legislation that's been voted through and
Speaker 1: these rules again meant to help these people who are
Speaker 1: working remotely. Because also I think they're also interested in
Speaker 1: creating a country like a culture too that would attract
Speaker 1: more people who do remote work as well. So under
Speaker 1: these new rules this is am employers could be penalized
Speaker 1: for contacting employees after work and will be forced to
Speaker 1: pay for increased expenses as a result of working from home,
Speaker 1: like gas and electricity bills. And further, these rules will
Speaker 1: be implemented to aid employees at home, such as banning
Speaker 1: employers from monitoring their workers at home and ensuring workers
Speaker 1: must meet with their boss every two months to stave
Speaker 1: off isolation. And you're like, not everything passed. There was
Speaker 1: a they were trying to get something called the Right
Speaker 1: to Disconnect past, which would have been given workers ability
Speaker 1: to switch off work devices, but that I guess was
Speaker 1: that didn't get the votes get needed. But these are
Speaker 1: very like common sense things like where I think companies
Speaker 1: now as a person you have to create those boundaries
Speaker 1: or you're like, I don't look at if that email
Speaker 1: comes in after five, it might as well come in
Speaker 1: at nine am tomorrow. But it's it's difficult because especially
Speaker 1: with Americans, have this like fucked up idea of working
Speaker 1: from home and what it means to what labor toiling
Speaker 1: shoulders shouldn't look like that. It's easy to get like
Speaker 1: a fucking email at eight and be like, fuck, I
Speaker 1: work from home, so I better fucking start doing this
Speaker 1: now when it might not be necessary. So I don't know, like,
Speaker 1: in a way, I feel like this is something that
Speaker 1: could happen in the US because it seems like very
Speaker 1: common sense. But we also we live in a country
Speaker 1: where there's a moneyed group to fucking be against anything.
Speaker 1: So I can only imagine like the managers United fucking
Speaker 1: like pack starting like paying for ads. It would be like,
Speaker 1: are you like workers are fucking around? You know what?
Speaker 1: I mean to try and want something like this, but
Speaker 1: I don't know refreshing to hear at least it's also
Speaker 1: just like it's a line in the sand, but the
Speaker 1: reality of ship like this is like these rules will
Speaker 1: be bent, like and you know it's this is more
Speaker 1: of like a beginning of a negotiating position, because what's
Speaker 1: going to happen is like positively, I know technic clue
Speaker 1: what I'm supposed to do this, but could you get
Speaker 1: these files ready? And the thing is that's like most people,
Speaker 1: like at least Americans would be like okay, fine, and
Speaker 1: this just hopefully would give sort of recourse to big
Speaker 1: abuses or at least change that the power dynamic and
Speaker 1: change the whole culture. It seems like like you said
Speaker 1: a common sense thing, but I thought you were about
Speaker 1: to give this point when you said when I've hated
Speaker 1: a job, because let me tell you when I've hated
Speaker 1: a job. These boundaries are so fucking defined. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: let me tell you. I'm not answering this email at
Speaker 1: six like me, like because it's outside of work hours,
Speaker 1: excuse me, but I guess it's it is true, Like
Speaker 1: that's that is the sort of like thing that like, yeah,
Speaker 1: when I when I had a day job that I hated,
Speaker 1: it was like and I did feel unable to do
Speaker 1: ship like this, and I absolutely would have just been like,
Speaker 1: all right, I'll get to it. Get to it at
Speaker 1: nine am, right when when I clock in fools. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you can see companies being like, actually, our working hours
Speaker 1: are now twelve noon to eight pm. Yeah, you feel
Speaker 1: like those are the small ways that but that's at
Speaker 1: least defined that then it's like then you can all right,
Speaker 1: if we're agreeing to this, then I'll get to your
Speaker 1: ship at twelve right, right, All right, let's take a
Speaker 1: quick break and we'll be right back to talk conspiracy
Speaker 1: influencers and we're back. So, uh, Demilovado is now a
Speaker 1: conspiracy influencer, which I feel like it's going to be
Speaker 1: a more and more popular move. Like as of right now,
Speaker 1: we've seen a lot of celebrities who get criticized by
Speaker 1: people on the left just turn in a like reactionary
Speaker 1: way to the right and the conspiracy world. But I
Speaker 1: do feel like more and more that this is just
Speaker 1: going to be sort of a mainstream thing for celebrities
Speaker 1: to do. It looks like it's a check right. So Demilovado,
Speaker 1: who has eighteen are hundred eighteen million fucking followers on Instagram,
Speaker 1: posted to their Instagram thrilled to be and at we
Speaker 1: are Gaya Ambassador. So this is this platform called Gaya
Speaker 1: quote Understanding the world around us, parenthetical, the gnomes and
Speaker 1: the unknown is so exciting to me. And you know,
Speaker 1: Demi is promoting promoting a site that is my most
Speaker 1: people's observations, just a hub for conspiracy theory videos like
Speaker 1: where many are meant to look like these earnest documentaries
Speaker 1: that are like blowing the lid on ship and you
Speaker 1: kind of see like the business aspects of this. Uh.
Speaker 1: This is from a report in The Daily Beast. Quote
Speaker 1: on a Lovado themed Gaia page for their fans, the
Speaker 1: singer supporters can view a free episode of a Guya
Speaker 1: show about Quote an ancient space program before signing up
Speaker 1: for an eleven nine monthly Guia membership. Lovado's quote handpicked
Speaker 1: favorite shows, according to the website, include a series positing
Speaker 1: that Atlantis was real and that humanity is living in
Speaker 1: the aftermath of a battle between giants and lizard like
Speaker 1: Reptilian's okay um and that's sort of like the where
Speaker 1: you land if you go, you navigate off of their post.
Speaker 1: So it's clear that there's a money making endeavor for sure.
Speaker 1: But like this ship on this platform is not like
Speaker 1: all just like you know, art Bell, hardy heart horror
Speaker 1: kind of you know, like out there stuff, Like there's
Speaker 1: some truly wild shit on there. Like this is again
Speaker 1: from their assessment of on Daily Beast Quote guyas videos
Speaker 1: are slickly produced to look like genuine documentaries, documentaries with
Speaker 1: some prominent figures in the anti vaccine movement. The site
Speaker 1: also has been called Quote a hub for Q and On,
Speaker 1: Guya's own corporate culture is a wash in conspiracy theories,
Speaker 1: employees discussed Q and On and info wars, according to
Speaker 1: a report from Business Insider, Confusingly, employees were told that
Speaker 1: materials promoting a documentary about a benevolent alien species called
Speaker 1: the quote Blue Avians required approval from the Blue Avians,
Speaker 1: as if they were real. Look, Guya denies that allegation
Speaker 1: miles because there's documentation. I don't know, it seems like
Speaker 1: probably just based on what we've learned about celebrities, there's
Speaker 1: probably more of them that are susceptible than are currently
Speaker 1: kind of openly susceptible to this sort of thinking. And
Speaker 1: the only thing that's sort of preventing it is I
Speaker 1: don't know, like advisors or something. And I just feel
Speaker 1: like more and more as there it becomes here that
Speaker 1: there's money to be made here, that this is going
Speaker 1: to be a thing. Yeah, I mean, it feels like
Speaker 1: the the normal backstop against this kind of ship is
Speaker 1: that this stuff has no like predictive value, Like like
Speaker 1: believing in this stuff doesn't further your like understanding of
Speaker 1: the world. It doesn't tell you what's going to happen.
Speaker 1: Next in any sort of remote way, and it doesn't work,
Speaker 1: like the same with the anti vax stuff. It's right,
Speaker 1: so you can say iver mect in whatever or like
Speaker 1: your immune systems just is good. But the reality is
Speaker 1: it's like fucking you know, Republicans are just dying and
Speaker 1: anti VAXs people are just dying at higher rates than
Speaker 1: than people are vaccinated, and like you can't talk your
Speaker 1: way out of that. So it is it just feels
Speaker 1: like normally reality just kicks in eventually, right, Like it's
Speaker 1: just not helpful. It doesn't give you anything to think
Speaker 1: the world is flat you know, you're just gonna die
Speaker 1: in a rocket crash at the extreme or like you know,
Speaker 1: it's just it doesn't work or do anything. So I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't It's like usually the hard nosed Republican of it,
Speaker 1: right is like okay, okay, but you're not a hippie lunatic.
Speaker 1: We have to like, you know, these these warplanes still
Speaker 1: need to fly, and the physics of blue avians doesn't
Speaker 1: get us there. I don't know, just normally, like the
Speaker 1: money people step in, I guess that's what I'm saying. No,
Speaker 1: it's just that you don't know enough about blue Avian technology.
Speaker 1: But sure, yeah, but it's like like, let's go, let's
Speaker 1: fucking head to head, my my, like a college science
Speaker 1: versus blue Avian theories. Let's go. I think it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, when you look at it, you the one
Speaker 1: thing that it is the danger to me is that
Speaker 1: by doing this, it normalizes conspiracy conspiratorial content at the
Speaker 1: very least. It's not being like, oh, ship, you're looking
Speaker 1: at that ship now. It's like, well, Demilovado is like
Speaker 1: feeling this stuff, and I don't know, I might check
Speaker 1: it out because I funk with Demi. But that's where
Speaker 1: I see, you know, from there, I believe there's definitely
Speaker 1: going to be a percentage of people who will get
Speaker 1: fully pulled in now and may begin you know, it
Speaker 1: starts off with some ship about an ancient space program
Speaker 1: and then turns into full blown like anti Semitic, anti
Speaker 1: black whatever, fascist nonsense. And I think that's where like,
Speaker 1: that's the grim part of this is thinking like, oh,
Speaker 1: you can bankroll, like you can normalize this sort of
Speaker 1: you know, problematic perception of the world by getting more
Speaker 1: seemingly just mainstream celebrities cut him a check, and then
Speaker 1: they say Hey, man, I'm sucking with guya. Come check
Speaker 1: it out. There's some really cool stuff in there and
Speaker 1: cut to you know, who knows what. But I guess
Speaker 1: I guess what I mean is like that's always been there.
Speaker 1: I don't know, oh I I you know, it's like
Speaker 1: you've all there's always been sort of like crystals becomes
Speaker 1: protocols of the Elders of Zio. Like it's just like
Speaker 1: it's just like that pipeline has always been there. And
Speaker 1: I guess the Internet amplifies it and quickens it. But
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know, like right, I guess like
Speaker 1: if it were me right, and I'm like nineteen and
Speaker 1: fucking you know, method man is like, yo, check out
Speaker 1: this nine eleven video. I'm all that ship. I'm all
Speaker 1: over that ship, you know, like where I'm like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, man, I funk with him heavy and if
Speaker 1: he's saying like in his personal life is something industry,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. I want to I want to know.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking it's interesting and I think that's where, you know,
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are susceptible to that.
Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot of ship. I thought celebrities
Speaker 1: were like doing right, and I was like, that's pretty cool,
Speaker 1: and I like or just like an adulthood that you like,
Speaker 1: you know something. And it's like, so I'm saying, like,
Speaker 1: from that hundred to eighteen million, what's that sliver of
Speaker 1: people who you can be now converted? I think that's
Speaker 1: where yeah, yeah, And it just feels like there's also
Speaker 1: a doubling down thing happening now where in the past,
Speaker 1: if method Man released that statement, people might you know,
Speaker 1: criticize Method Man, and the method Man would come out
Speaker 1: with a statement because his publicist asked him to. And
Speaker 1: now it feels like, I don't know that, like the
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers thing, the Kyrie Irving thing, like there's just
Speaker 1: sort of a you know, a willingness to just be
Speaker 1: like no, fuck funk everything, and you know, the the
Speaker 1: whole motive for pushing back on this sort of thing
Speaker 1: in the past had been the profit motive, right like that, like, well,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna get any roles anymore or whatever. But
Speaker 1: now if there's a concede, like a valid form of
Speaker 1: getting rich off of this sort of ship, like, then
Speaker 1: why you know not I'm not suggesting that Kyrie Irving's
Speaker 1: agent is telling him to continue to hold out, but
Speaker 1: like you know, Demilovado's manager might be looking at this
Speaker 1: and being like, Okay, well still there's money. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: mean that that is actually sort of the like upsetting thing.
Speaker 1: I I I noticed it when the Atlanta Baseball team
Speaker 1: like doubled down on being racist, because like previously, it
Speaker 1: seemed at least like clear that corporate America's calculus was
Speaker 1: that like the racist, bigoted, reality denying portion was not
Speaker 1: the profitable portion, And now it does seem there's like
Speaker 1: a corporate like no corporation does it out of the
Speaker 1: goodness of the heart. They're just trying to make money.
Speaker 1: So like you know, as like disingenuous as like diversity
Speaker 1: initiatives and things like that are what they at least
Speaker 1: are is a canary in the coal mine that like
Speaker 1: at the back of the like business analysis that is
Speaker 1: supposedly all these people care about. They know at their
Speaker 1: heart that like America is moving in one direction or
Speaker 1: the world is moving in one direction. And now now
Speaker 1: that you're seeing like major billion you know, multimillion if
Speaker 1: not billion dollar organizations toe that line a little bit.
Speaker 1: Like again the MLB and and the Atlanta just being like, yeah,
Speaker 1: come on, come on in Trump, let's let's do the
Speaker 1: tom Hawk chop and ship like that. It's like, that's
Speaker 1: not troubling because of the on its face racism. It
Speaker 1: is troubling that like a billionaire decided like this is
Speaker 1: where I'm putting my chips, right, you know, that's like
Speaker 1: regardless of personal belief So it's like at every level, right,
Speaker 1: Like they're the people there's a group of wealthy donors
Speaker 1: who are funding like the CRT, you know, like Outrage Ship,
Speaker 1: and there's so many things that are now being bankrolled.
Speaker 1: I just these wealthy people who are just doing doing
Speaker 1: it very stealthily, yeah, and like dragging us closer to it.
Speaker 1: But they would always do it stealthily based on their
Speaker 1: personal beliefs. But it's the doing it publicly part that
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, that's now troubling. Like that means like
Speaker 1: you got I I just assume every billionaire has repellent beliefs,
Speaker 1: But among those repellent beliefs are a knowledge that the
Speaker 1: rest of the world exists at like has their own
Speaker 1: beliefs and you have to manipulate them. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but I feel like the the idea of like woke
Speaker 1: values had has become like they do the you know,
Speaker 1: pure gesture, not like actually anything substitutive, like thing addressing
Speaker 1: racism or misogyny. But it's by removing an episode of
Speaker 1: a show that has like black concenter or something, and
Speaker 1: then that has become associated with, well, that's what woke
Speaker 1: culture is. That's what criticizing you know, the tomahawk chop
Speaker 1: as racist is. And I feel like there is a
Speaker 1: mainstream cultural like backlash now where like woke has become
Speaker 1: like associated with like, oh, the stupid thing that was
Speaker 1: that was a big deal and and now is like
Speaker 1: people are agreeing was like bad woke worrying about stuff
Speaker 1: that's not even like a big deal actually really. And
Speaker 1: also again it's just a thought killing cliche because now
Speaker 1: James Carville can rather than you know, address like the
Speaker 1: actual failings of the Democratic Party and you know, neoliberal platform,
Speaker 1: like this whole ideology, it's just saying it's just the
Speaker 1: woke stuff killed everything, and that word is enough you'll
Speaker 1: go yeah, yea, rather than getting your fucking hands dirty
Speaker 1: and saying, you know, they're working people, poor people who
Speaker 1: are not getting anything delivered. That was promised to them,
Speaker 1: and why the fuck, Like, yeah, they're supposed to just
Speaker 1: feel good about that. No, but it's easier to just
Speaker 1: say throw out woke. Have CNN posit that question to
Speaker 1: other senators and just completely shift the argument to say like, oh,
Speaker 1: is being humane? Like is that woke? But rather than
Speaker 1: you know, underlining that, it's just easier to just go
Speaker 1: down this debate. Yeah, but it's like the the embrace
Speaker 1: of like the pure opposite of that, like the actual
Speaker 1: like let's have Trump do the tomahawk chop, let's bring
Speaker 1: him in. That's that's the thing. That's like even you know,
Speaker 1: like every every fucking you know corporation embraces right wing values.
Speaker 1: They it's always as far right as they think they
Speaker 1: can get away with. And the fact that what they
Speaker 1: think they can get away with has visibly shifted, I think,
Speaker 1: is you're like that that means the fundamentals of America
Speaker 1: are different than yeah, yeah, because what the most defense
Speaker 1: the League had was like, well, we didn't invite him.
Speaker 1: He like, I know, he said we invited him, but
Speaker 1: he asked to go, and then we gave them tickets.
Speaker 1: And it's still like the real thing would have just
Speaker 1: said fuck off, dude. Yeah, it's like, hey, this is
Speaker 1: just not a good time for the audience. We're trying
Speaker 1: to cultivate like Mr President blah blah blah whatever, or
Speaker 1: don't put TV like cameras on him. All tons of
Speaker 1: ship they could do, right, because we seem to be
Speaker 1: like from a cultural perspective, we seem to be just
Speaker 1: cycling back through the same sort of values and periods
Speaker 1: and events over and over again. I'm starting to wonder
Speaker 1: if we're like headed for the anti woke like eighties
Speaker 1: nineteen eighties again, where it's like fucking you know, Reagan
Speaker 1: culturally like was the thing and like conservatism was the thing,
Speaker 1: and that was like reaction to you know, economic slowdown
Speaker 1: and like the seventies and people. I think hopefully culture
Speaker 1: is at least fractured enough, and like people, media is
Speaker 1: not you know, good and bad way not such a
Speaker 1: stranglehold such that, like you know, because the reality is
Speaker 1: like in the eighties though that was the quote unquote
Speaker 1: culture people were speaking up against. It just didn't have Twitter,
Speaker 1: and like, you know, whole fully that remains the bulwark
Speaker 1: against that ship. I guess maybe not as you see,
Speaker 1: you know, as we and other things, like the mainstream
Speaker 1: media still has a like center right to hard right
Speaker 1: editorial remit but you know, hopefully it's like at least
Speaker 1: you can say other ship like for now right, yeah,
Speaker 1: when there's again when they take all the books out
Speaker 1: of libraries and leave it with men are from Mars,
Speaker 1: women are from Venus, the Bible, and a little gems.
Speaker 1: That's the most. That's pretty that's too subversive, my dude.
Speaker 1: Hopefully that the yeah Larson is a visionary mile They
Speaker 1: won't know. No, I'm just saying this sneaks in because
Speaker 1: it's a comic and they completely don't understand the commentary
Speaker 1: and they're like, yeah, that's one. Other dudes were rocking
Speaker 1: Big Johnson. I was rocking Farside T shirts. Okay, That's
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Speaker 1: D Ampersand for me, that is truly my proudest moment. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that is so dumb brilliant. Is there a tweet or
Speaker 1: some of the work of social media you've been enjoying. Yes,
Speaker 1: there are two things. One we talked about Dune. I
Speaker 1: was looking for the source for this meme and I
Speaker 1: couldn't find its. Apologies in advance, but it's a fake
Speaker 1: subtitled still from Dune when they're on the little prison
Speaker 1: planet and it opens on sarda car throat singing and
Speaker 1: then the second panel of the meme is it goes
Speaker 1: back to all the soldiers and it just says the
Speaker 1: ship slaps. Like having seen that me and before I
Speaker 1: went into the theater, I laughed out loud that like,
Speaker 1: this is so dumb, and I think that honestly motivated
Speaker 1: me to see that movie. I was like, I just
Speaker 1: want to see the throat singing and see the see
Speaker 1: the soldiers groofing out to the throat singing. Miles where
Speaker 1: can people find you? What is the tweet you've been enjoying?
Speaker 1: Find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray
Speaker 1: and also the other pod for twenty Day Fiance with
Speaker 1: Sophia Alexandra, where you know, we're just just talking that ship,
Speaker 1: that ninety days ship. Some tweets that I like, let
Speaker 1: me get this one in uh couple actually uh. This
Speaker 1: is from James Austin Johnson at Shrimp j J quote.
Speaker 1: This is just a quote says TV does not get
Speaker 1: better than this, and then he says, eight year old
Speaker 1: me watching wind Benstein's money understanding throw percent of what
Speaker 1: is being said. I was just like, yep, I loved it.
Speaker 1: I was I think of that. I was punching way
Speaker 1: above in that era too, and this next one is
Speaker 1: from what past guest at your underscore telling parents of
Speaker 1: a crying baby handle that motherfucker, I will, and then
Speaker 1: gently rocking that motherfucker to sleep. That's great, let's see
Speaker 1: Max wu at Max Upo tweeted starting to believe the
Speaker 1: other sperms were smarter than I and lost on purpose.
Speaker 1: Andrewnetto tweeted Clark can't go into the eye doctor and
Speaker 1: receiving twenty seven different bills because every time he tried
Speaker 1: on a new pair they thought he was someone else.
Speaker 1: And then Maggie Winters tweeted, where's your precious son now? Beatles?
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