Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to thirteen, episode
Speaker 1: two of Day at Least like a production of I
Speaker 1: Heart Radio. This is a podcast where you take a
Speaker 1: deep dive into America's shared consciousness. And it's Tuesday, November
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Speaker 1: to stay home because you're well days. That seems like
Speaker 1: it seems like I think I wouldn't make up as
Speaker 1: like a high schooler, like play Hockey Day, National Thermometer
Speaker 1: against the lamp, oh right right right yeah? Or I
Speaker 1: would do is I would take a little bit of
Speaker 1: tea because you know, like you have a little hot
Speaker 1: water in your mouth and then you just have to
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Speaker 1: name is Jack O'Brien, a k nothing compares. Nothing compares
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Speaker 1: thrilled to be joined as always by my co host,
Speaker 1: Mr Miles Gray. Miles Gray, Oh man, I wish uh
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Speaker 1: I was traveling, you know, I was in New York.
Speaker 1: It was cool to wear a jacket. So I think
Speaker 1: I'm still kind of riding that high of wearing winter clothing.
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Speaker 1: get to you well, Miles. We are thrilled to be
Speaker 1: joined in our herd seat once again by a brilliant,
Speaker 1: talented political strategist, storyteller and artists who has performed her
Speaker 1: poetry on stages everywhere including I don't know the White House.
Speaker 1: Please welcome Tez. I'll man, how's it going. Well? I'm
Speaker 1: still feeling that like post Thanksgiving with erg so oh yeah,
Speaker 1: like my body and I didn't even really eat a
Speaker 1: formal Thanksgiving. I went to a restaurant, but I had
Speaker 1: They had a Thanksgiving like meal that you could have
Speaker 1: got there, but I was like, I just want stuffing
Speaker 1: and gravy, So I just said, can I just get
Speaker 1: that as a side to my other meal? So I
Speaker 1: got that. We went to Lucy Lucile's the day after
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving because we didn't have corn bread, and then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, we're like, oh, we need we need
Speaker 1: to eat corn bread now, right, So it was just
Speaker 1: like a gluttonist and then they made cheesecake las night.
Speaker 1: So it's just been a gluttonis weekend where you didn't wait.
Speaker 1: So where do you right now? You with your family?
Speaker 1: I'm at my dad's house. He lives in the suburbs
Speaker 1: of Ontario. Cheesecake is really easy to make, but I've
Speaker 1: been trying to come up with my my twist on it.
Speaker 1: So that's been kind of fun. Right When you say
Speaker 1: on Teraro, you mean like Ontario, like California. Yeah, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: my crossing borders yet no shout out to Ontario Mills,
Speaker 1: Ontario Mills, Ontaria Airport. Yeah. I thought that you could
Speaker 1: only make cheesecake at the cheesecake factory. I thought they
Speaker 1: had like a trademark on that. I didn't know that
Speaker 1: was a homemake couple thing. Oh my gosh, if you
Speaker 1: look at your Philadelphia m bar, the cheesecake cream cheese
Speaker 1: there didn't keep in my pocket, keep on keep one
Speaker 1: on me as they say, yeah, how many blocks do
Speaker 1: you typically need for like one cheesecake I've never made.
Speaker 1: It's so funny. I love cheesecake, never even attempted to
Speaker 1: make it, never even watch someone make it. But I
Speaker 1: used one one for this go. But here's okay. So
Speaker 1: this is like my little background. Like there's just Bengali dessert.
Speaker 1: The families from Bangladesh. Bengalis are known for sweets. There's
Speaker 1: Bengali dessert called Rustumale, which has like a lot of
Speaker 1: cardamom and saffron. So I've been trying to like make
Speaker 1: rest my Life fusion desserts every Thanksgiving. So last year
Speaker 1: I made Arrestme Life trust liches and then that was amazing.
Speaker 1: So it's just like tress lasts with saffron and uh cardamum.
Speaker 1: And then this year I wanted to try to do
Speaker 1: a saffron cardamom cheesecake and it works, and I'm being
Speaker 1: impressed with myself I'm just gonna keep riding this fusion wave. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're not baking, I mean straight to the bank. What's
Speaker 1: how was the Fusion trust Liches? How was that? Oh?
Speaker 1: My god, it was so good. I'll send y'all the restipe.
Speaker 1: It was delicious. It's my favorite, my favorite. If you
Speaker 1: ever see me in the street and you want to
Speaker 1: give me something, put it in front of my face
Speaker 1: and I will smile. I think I want to try
Speaker 1: the flon next see if I can like figure figure
Speaker 1: that out. Yeah, or like a krembro a too. I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna keep talking about desserts. I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: talking like somebody who didn't eat enough Thanksgiving food on
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving and now we're the start of the holiday season.
Speaker 1: We're gonna be eating throughout. Yeah, I know what else
Speaker 1: are we going to do? Being led around by his
Speaker 1: nose with his feet like an inch off the ground,
Speaker 1: with some trislates like a cartoon away. Yeah, yeah, So
Speaker 1: are you you were back home? Is this where you
Speaker 1: grew up? Are you back in the Yeah? I grew
Speaker 1: up in the suburbs of l A. I went to
Speaker 1: Ontario High School. I went to l A Colleges in
Speaker 1: l A, but I would always come back on the weekends.
Speaker 1: It was kind of hard for the pandemic because I
Speaker 1: wasn't coming back to see my dad as off. My
Speaker 1: dad lives here now in this house, so I wouldn't
Speaker 1: come back during the pandemic. But this is this was
Speaker 1: like the first Thanksgiving where it felt kind of normal
Speaker 1: in two years. It was still kind of scary too,
Speaker 1: Like we hung out, but we were like hanging out
Speaker 1: outside with my cousins, right right, right, Yeah, there's still
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, there's still a level of edginess to
Speaker 1: it all, despite you know, vaccinations and you know infection
Speaker 1: rates going up and down. It's always at a constant
Speaker 1: hum in the background. How are your Thanksgivings? I know
Speaker 1: this is on Tuesday. I still got to keep talking
Speaker 1: about I mean I was fine again. New York, City
Speaker 1: of Dreams, the Green Apple. Everything in New York isn't
Speaker 1: always what it seems, right, Yeah, exactly, Okay, I just
Speaker 1: want to make sure that was still the dog Pound
Speaker 1: Gangster quick. But yeah, it's I had a great time.
Speaker 1: I was there for a wedding. Shoutouts to Jacquelin and Scott,
Speaker 1: congratulations on your wedding. That was also a very that
Speaker 1: was like a trip to to just like kind of
Speaker 1: do like some normal thing again. But other than that,
Speaker 1: great time, Great time. Yeah. I I we did Thanksgiving
Speaker 1: dinner outdoors al Fresco, and I was in terms of
Speaker 1: the turkey, so it took too long, and so by
Speaker 1: the time we were it was very cold out. But
Speaker 1: the turkey was very good. I both dry and wet.
Speaker 1: Brian did not in that order, which would have been
Speaker 1: a problem. Okay Jack O'Brien in over here, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was. It was like very last minute. I realized
Speaker 1: that we had ordered a bunch of sides and had
Speaker 1: not figured out what we're going to do for the
Speaker 1: main thing. Literally the night before I got like a
Speaker 1: nine pound turkey and was like, all right, what this
Speaker 1: will this will do? And what did what did you
Speaker 1: use for the brain? So we have some rosemary in
Speaker 1: the backyard. We have a lemon tree in the backyard.
Speaker 1: So I just did some rosemary and lemon and some
Speaker 1: fresh time and then just a shipload of salt and
Speaker 1: water and you know, boiled it up, let it cool.
Speaker 1: Was up until like one in the morning the night
Speaker 1: before doing it, because it was you know, I figured
Speaker 1: out I was doing it at like ten o'clock as closing,
Speaker 1: so very well, it's all about preparation bad at that
Speaker 1: so it was it was a bit of a mess
Speaker 1: and we didn't have a coacher assault so I used
Speaker 1: him La and salt so for a while, the turkey
Speaker 1: was like bright pink, which was kind of weird. People
Speaker 1: are like, okayoked, but then yeah, cooked down it was.
Speaker 1: It was good. It was yeah, and I'm I'm glad
Speaker 1: to hear that even though it's delayed, it came out.
Speaker 1: I'm more succulent than even you could have hoped. And
Speaker 1: I always that's my favorite line from Signed Folding the
Speaker 1: Ducked and shout out to Sharon, my mom. We we
Speaker 1: once again used her sweet Potato crunch recipe. It's one
Speaker 1: of those like old school seventies recipes. It's just like various,
Speaker 1: you know, grocery items mixed together, but it's fucking bomb
Speaker 1: hits every time, all right, And we have my in
Speaker 1: laws here and it was fun. We also had some
Speaker 1: Korean beef along with the turkey, so it's really good. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I love the Thanksgiving table that has like different We
Speaker 1: have very aniolso on Thanksgiving, so we have a turkey
Speaker 1: during the daytime, and then dinner was like the Japanese
Speaker 1: So we'll be like, do you like as a kid,
Speaker 1: be like should I make a turkey? And I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: I mean you could make like some other Japanese stuff. Again,
Speaker 1: I was like, just have the stuffing and the matched
Speaker 1: potatoes and we could confusion this ship up. However, we
Speaker 1: need to seriously all right, as we're going to get
Speaker 1: to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
Speaker 1: we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of the things
Speaker 1: we're talking about. We're gonna just check in with where
Speaker 1: we're at in the pandemic. We got the new variant,
Speaker 1: you know, all that good stuff. So we're gonna just
Speaker 1: how do we feel? What, how should we feel? What?
Speaker 1: What are we what's the signal and the noise all
Speaker 1: that ship. Matthew McConaughey says, no, I'm good about running
Speaker 1: for Texas governor. So we're gonna, you know, just congratulate
Speaker 1: him on that decision. It is, of course, a holiday season.
Speaker 1: The holiday season for many, Christmas is upon us. You know,
Speaker 1: we all did the Mariah Carey Thanksgiving evening change into
Speaker 1: a peppermint candy themed outfit at midnight. So we're gonna
Speaker 1: we're gonna ask the question, what are America's favorite Christmas
Speaker 1: candies by state? You know, it's it's every holiday. We
Speaker 1: have to look at a probably apocryphal chart claiming that
Speaker 1: every state has a has wildly differing candy preferences. This
Speaker 1: one's actually boring enough that it might be true. So
Speaker 1: well we'll talk about that all of that plenty more.
Speaker 1: But first we do like task our guest tas what
Speaker 1: is something from your search history? You know, I was
Speaker 1: cooking a lot this weekend star for my search history.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of recipes, a lot of googling of
Speaker 1: different types of fusion foods. I mean, I was trying
Speaker 1: to figure out what was I mean, I think besides
Speaker 1: you know, thingsgiving related searches. The other thing that I've
Speaker 1: been like really digging into. I'm really into Moorish architecture
Speaker 1: right now. So I definitely went into the the rabbit
Speaker 1: hole looking for different buildings in l A that were
Speaker 1: inspired by this Islamic Moorish if they call it Moorish Revival.
Speaker 1: And it happened, actually actually I happened because but when
Speaker 1: they used to have the World Fair out in Chicago.
Speaker 1: They used to bring have like an example, taj mahal
Speaker 1: Ish architecture thing and then people would come to the
Speaker 1: World World Fair and then say I want that house
Speaker 1: and then they would make it. So this was like
Speaker 1: don't I'm I'm really into this because I was working
Speaker 1: writing a script where my characters get really involved with
Speaker 1: Orientalists tropes that you see in Palm Springs and in
Speaker 1: the the desert out there. So then I jumped into it.
Speaker 1: I will say one of the if you I know
Speaker 1: you're both in l A. If you haven't been to
Speaker 1: the Glendale Library yet, the Glendale Library was actually a
Speaker 1: house that I feel like. His name is Brand, you know,
Speaker 1: the Brand family. They started Glendale and he had this
Speaker 1: Moorish architecture castle built out in the mountains of Glendale,
Speaker 1: and if you go now, it's just kind of like
Speaker 1: it looks like a library that's like inside a mosque.
Speaker 1: It's fascinating to just I don't know for me as
Speaker 1: a as a Muslim woman in l A. I didn't
Speaker 1: realize like we have this kind of connections to Islamic
Speaker 1: architecture around last night. So that is my rabbit hole
Speaker 1: that I've been digging into Oh yeah, because now I'm
Speaker 1: like I was first like googling like Moorish Revival architecture,
Speaker 1: but I'm like, now that I see the Glendale I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, the Glendale Library. Okay, to try and put
Speaker 1: it in our listeners mind, like what what are features
Speaker 1: of Moorish architecture. It's kind of like over the top
Speaker 1: because it's not really how architecture is an Indie or
Speaker 1: Iran hun or wherever these kinds of pieces are being
Speaker 1: inspired from. It's like the white imagination of the Orient,
Speaker 1: which is my fascination of it because it's kind of like,
Speaker 1: I think the way that I've been thinking about it
Speaker 1: is like growing up as a Muslim girl in southern California,
Speaker 1: the mosque we would go to where like in these
Speaker 1: strip malls because that was what our community could afford.
Speaker 1: Yet here you have like these luxurious homes with Moroccan detail, domes, arches,
Speaker 1: and that was just like their home. And I like
Speaker 1: seeing where that contradiction is that like gray space between
Speaker 1: the two. Yeah right, and yeah, that's like that's like
Speaker 1: sort of like you were saying, I didn't realize there
Speaker 1: was like that sort of like shin Wa Zurie, like Orientalism.
Speaker 1: Stuff happening in Palm Springs. I have to look closer,
Speaker 1: but yeah, it's always Oh my gosh, it's so deep.
Speaker 1: In Palm Springs. There's the City of Mecca, which used
Speaker 1: to be called something else, and they changed it to
Speaker 1: the City of Mecca because the US Department of Agriculture
Speaker 1: they brought in dates from the Middle East basically to grow.
Speaker 1: This was back in the turn of the century. So
Speaker 1: they were like trying to figure out how to make
Speaker 1: the desert of farming land. So they brought in these days.
Speaker 1: They started farming dates out in the desert. They renamed
Speaker 1: the city a city to Mecca. They renamed and you
Speaker 1: know this beach along the Salt and Sea, they called
Speaker 1: it Bombay Beach because they thought that would make it
Speaker 1: look like exotic Indio, right Indio County. Wow, it's like India,
Speaker 1: but it's masculine India High School. Their mascot is are
Speaker 1: the Rags or the or something like that. Coachella has
Speaker 1: the mascot of the Arabs. I don't know, they're just
Speaker 1: like this. I'm just really fascinated by all of that.
Speaker 1: Of the Western gays, m hm. They even have a
Speaker 1: Date Festival where they you know how they have like
Speaker 1: those pageants, They have a pageant where they the winner
Speaker 1: is called the Queen. Queen Shahrazade is the name of
Speaker 1: the pageant winner. And just I don't know, it's just wild.
Speaker 1: I'm just so fascinated by all of this, right that
Speaker 1: it's like entrenched and like people like have doesn't is
Speaker 1: this just all taken, just accepted, or does anyone kind
Speaker 1: of looking back in the history and be like, oh, right,
Speaker 1: I didn't even know. I just thought Queen Shahira Zade
Speaker 1: was just a thing you won and at the at
Speaker 1: the date festival. Mhm. They used to back in the
Speaker 1: day for the day festival, they used to dress up
Speaker 1: in orientalists attire. And if you go to the Date
Speaker 1: Festival still there's they have like Arabia play. I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's it is pretty. It's particularly wild to me because
Speaker 1: that region of southern California is deeply Islamophobic. There's been
Speaker 1: a lot of hate crimes out there yet, so so
Speaker 1: one hand it's like deeply Islamophobic. On the other hand,
Speaker 1: they're like exotifying and you know, horrifying the culture or
Speaker 1: their imagination of culture. Yeah. I could talk on and
Speaker 1: on about this. If anyone's interested, just tweet at me.
Speaker 1: Um like such a nerd about this kind of stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's super interesting. What is something you think is overrated?
Speaker 1: Pete Davidson, not Pete? What about him? What about him?
Speaker 1: Something could be specific? Now, you know, defending Kardashian. I
Speaker 1: think the relationship thing is overrated. I think that's fake.
Speaker 1: So I don't know, like it just seems it feels
Speaker 1: like a Netflix algorithm relationship, Like an algorithm was like,
Speaker 1: you know, what would turn the fucking internet up? Put
Speaker 1: Pete Davidson with Kim Kardashian. There's like just such an
Speaker 1: energy around it that I've just like become suspicious of
Speaker 1: what what's their whole thing is? But yeah, there is
Speaker 1: a there is a theory on Twitter that Chris Jennerman
Speaker 1: you actor this relationship to get eyes off of Travis Scott.
Speaker 1: But wait, but no, but they were together before Yeah
Speaker 1: the Astro World thing. She knew it was coming because
Speaker 1: she also planned that. Yeah, she also planned after wout disaster. Yeah,
Speaker 1: where's that Twitter threat? Yeah? I do wonder how much
Speaker 1: is you know, maybe maybe it's not like externally orchestrated.
Speaker 1: But if you are like very smart at like knowing
Speaker 1: the culture and like part of your life is like
Speaker 1: being sort of naturally like magnetically drawn to fame, Like
Speaker 1: does is there something in her or her mom's mind
Speaker 1: or Pete Davidson's mind where they're like, okay, this relationship
Speaker 1: will hit super hard. So like therefore I am drawn
Speaker 1: like sort of the internalizing of the algorithm as opposed
Speaker 1: to like the algorithm having to tell them what to
Speaker 1: do right, Whereas like normal people are like I'm lonely
Speaker 1: as fun, I like this person and they like me back.
Speaker 1: This is great where but when you're in the public eye,
Speaker 1: that's sort of like these third and fourth layers of
Speaker 1: analysis of like okay, now what does this do with
Speaker 1: my outward persona? Does this benefit me? Okay? Check box?
Speaker 1: That's a step up. Is it gonna get a lot
Speaker 1: of people talking and keep me relevant? Check box? And
Speaker 1: it's like almost the same thing as like are they caring?
Speaker 1: Do they listen? But yeah, I mean what do you
Speaker 1: think they talk about? Though? Like I just don't I
Speaker 1: can't imagine what A I guess they're not having conversation.
Speaker 1: I mean maybe he's really into like legal stuff like
Speaker 1: she is, and they have deep, deep debates over you know,
Speaker 1: the state of like our car sool system and things
Speaker 1: like that. Or maybe they just bone a lot and
Speaker 1: just say I love you and realize in a couple
Speaker 1: of months they actually have nothing in common. I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean they're always doing like I guess by this,
Speaker 1: I mean I've seen one picture of them on a
Speaker 1: roller coaster. So that's a good day to go on
Speaker 1: with someone who you're attracted to, but like don't have
Speaker 1: a ton to like talk about. You just talk about
Speaker 1: the roller coaster that you just went on. That was
Speaker 1: so fun. Yeah, that was fun, right dropped? Yeah, like
Speaker 1: I was. I was like, like on the way up,
Speaker 1: I was less scared, but that when I dropped, that
Speaker 1: was Oh my god, you too write that was that
Speaker 1: That was the part that scared me. And this is
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like we have so much in common,
Speaker 1: like this is crazy. Sometimes are comic because again, I
Speaker 1: would love to see a posed photo where she's like
Speaker 1: I'm reading Fucal's penju and he second, I've got thoughts too,
Speaker 1: like you know, but I don't know if what you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know that's that's a problem with even trying
Speaker 1: to dissect like these sort of celebrity relationships. But I
Speaker 1: do agree with you, like I'm definitely I'm done talking
Speaker 1: about it. M hm. Yeah. In that sense, that's where
Speaker 1: I feel like still, well, I mean, like when this
Speaker 1: was all in the news last week, apparently Kim had
Speaker 1: like chartered an airplane for the Afghany soccer team to
Speaker 1: go to the UK at this and it's like, but
Speaker 1: that wasn't in the news because like people just wanted
Speaker 1: to talk about Pete Davidson wearing skims for Jama pants.
Speaker 1: But what Kim did was really great, Like that was
Speaker 1: so wonderful that she charted that plane for them. So
Speaker 1: I wonder in that sense if it is real, because
Speaker 1: you're like, it's sucking up the things that Kim is
Speaker 1: trying to like, you know, magnify a little bit more
Speaker 1: about where her career is headed, where she's trying to
Speaker 1: be a little more philanthropic and like activist oriented, when meanwhile,
Speaker 1: it's just like, dude, look at fucking Hickey. He's got
Speaker 1: dude ship and that's all the news. But yeah, good
Speaker 1: point multitudes, right Exactly. It's like I will save these kids,
Speaker 1: and I will eat his neck like a vampire. What's
Speaker 1: something you think is underrated? You know what? I'm like
Speaker 1: not working right now, not working in the conventional sense
Speaker 1: like a lot of l A folks do, And I
Speaker 1: think that's underrated, like this whole Like I'm part of
Speaker 1: this great what were they calling it? The Great Resignation.
Speaker 1: I left my job in March and I've been spending
Speaker 1: the summer just working on a script in a memoir
Speaker 1: and writing and making art, and it's been amazing. I
Speaker 1: highly recommend if you can figure out a way to
Speaker 1: just take advantage of this pandemic in that way, to
Speaker 1: not do anything. It's I don't think we spend enough
Speaker 1: time letting ourselves get bored. As an artist, I feel
Speaker 1: like getting bored is so important for us to let
Speaker 1: our minds wander and work on art and writing or whatever,
Speaker 1: and we're just not giving ourselves the space to do that.
Speaker 1: So getting bored, being creative, taking naps, that is so
Speaker 1: underrated right now, and I'm here for it. I encourage
Speaker 1: everyone to to not have things to do. Ye mean
Speaker 1: to tell you this, Jack, but I'm not doing right now,
Speaker 1: so it might be it I was just reading an
Speaker 1: article things in the American Prospect about, you know, the
Speaker 1: Great Resignation, and sort of the thrust was like that
Speaker 1: there's been a lot of like a lot of explanations
Speaker 1: to say it's because of enhanced benefits, or it's because
Speaker 1: of this, or it's safety or whatever, and then it's like,
Speaker 1: so I decided to like talk to people that actually
Speaker 1: what happened, and it's all like, yo, man, I work
Speaker 1: for fucking pets Smart because I like pets and I
Speaker 1: wanted to be a groomer, and then they fucking had
Speaker 1: me working like seven days of fucking week and also
Speaker 1: like working with dogs who are like like who are
Speaker 1: prone to epileptic like seizures and things that could harm
Speaker 1: the dogs or like make ship sketchy. For me, I
Speaker 1: lost my whole fucking joy issh it. So I had
Speaker 1: to fucking stop because because at that sector, especially when
Speaker 1: you're being paid like lower wages, it just felt like
Speaker 1: I had no time or dignity or nothing. So I'm
Speaker 1: fucking off that and it's like, wow, it's like that.
Speaker 1: So it's like the dignity, it's like the overworking of
Speaker 1: this because a lot of these companies that you think
Speaker 1: of like pet Smart or pet Coke that are sort
Speaker 1: of like publicly owned or traded. It's all the very
Speaker 1: similar ethos of like man, pay these people nothing, get
Speaker 1: the fucking most out of them. It's like, you know,
Speaker 1: just like how Amazon and all, like, you know, it's
Speaker 1: the norm now, and people are really pushing back against that,
Speaker 1: and you know, realizing that life is too precious. And
Speaker 1: for this woman, she's like, I'm starting my own fucking
Speaker 1: grooming business because I don't need to work for them.
Speaker 1: I can do I like this, I'll do it for
Speaker 1: myself and I'll try that at least. So I was
Speaker 1: incredibly burnt out from working in the political movement and
Speaker 1: activism space, and I just, you know, like I'm really
Speaker 1: jealous of people that have access to unions. I, as
Speaker 1: an organizer, didn't have access to a union to fight
Speaker 1: for the things that I needed. Soever. It's just like,
Speaker 1: you know, what's screw it. I'm just gonna take a pause,
Speaker 1: focus on myself and figure out what i want to
Speaker 1: do next. Nice Ministry. I've been following the NAP Ministry
Speaker 1: on Twitter and Instagram. If you don't follow her, She's
Speaker 1: all about resting and I'm all about it, nap ministry
Speaker 1: and a ministry. Have you both not been following her?
Speaker 1: She's amazing. She's been preaching all about like the importance
Speaker 1: of napping. It feels silly, but like she talks about
Speaker 1: in a political perspective, I need to hear the well
Speaker 1: right right right of like how it's I've I've completely
Speaker 1: lost sight of like napping in any way. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: need to Okay, I'm following that now. I mean, to
Speaker 1: this point, I've mostly followed nas on napping. I never
Speaker 1: sleep because sleep is a cousin of death, right, so
Speaker 1: that's it's the unsustainable I've found that version of that
Speaker 1: approach to sleep philosophies. But yeah, I mean this, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm reading this David Grabor book, The Dawn of Everything,
Speaker 1: and it's like a history of a retelling of history
Speaker 1: of like prehistoric humans and also like encounters between you know,
Speaker 1: what's been come to what's come to be called Western
Speaker 1: culture and other cultures and like this version of humanity
Speaker 1: where humans are like deprived of their humanity and like
Speaker 1: and their context and like put into these like market
Speaker 1: systems that like force them to work kind of and
Speaker 1: do things that they don't want to do, Like all
Speaker 1: these things that are absolutely like ingrained into us at
Speaker 1: a very young age as like being just part of
Speaker 1: life are actually like very rare. Uh. And you know,
Speaker 1: when the natives in the America's like interacted with the French,
Speaker 1: they had like very like poetic, insightful, philosophical like critiques
Speaker 1: of American or of French values that like then got
Speaker 1: taken by a bunch of you know, European intellectuals and
Speaker 1: like that became the Enlightenment. But it's largely like they
Speaker 1: they the thing that they did not accept as like
Speaker 1: the idea of ownership of anything like that. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then if you don't have nothing like you could you
Speaker 1: could be like sucked over, Like that doesn't sound like
Speaker 1: freedom at all. And they're like okay, uh sure, and
Speaker 1: they walked away. They're like, funk, they were right, man,
Speaker 1: let's don't give them credit. Don't give them credit, say
Speaker 1: we thought this. Even the writers at the time would
Speaker 1: give them credit. And then like other Western intellectuals would
Speaker 1: be like, well, they just like said that they got
Speaker 1: those ideas from them, But it's actually like clearly them
Speaker 1: masking those ideas that they have themselves in the mouths
Speaker 1: of the quote savages and the other detail I've talked
Speaker 1: about before, but it was it's just like brought up
Speaker 1: again in this book that anytime you had Western cultures
Speaker 1: interacting with like what they called the savages, the Western like,
Speaker 1: there would be a huge, you know problem for Western
Speaker 1: societies of people fleeing Western cultures and going to live
Speaker 1: with the non Western like what was called going savage.
Speaker 1: But basically, like nobody wanted once they saw the two options.
Speaker 1: Nobody wanted to live in the you know, European culture.
Speaker 1: And the only reason that we ended up with the
Speaker 1: one we've got is because of germs. And that's it.
Speaker 1: It's not because of like some superiority or whatever the
Speaker 1: fuck white supremacists like to believe it was. It was
Speaker 1: really called going savage. Yeah, that's what they call it.
Speaker 1: Like there's this letter Ben Franklin wrote to a friend
Speaker 1: where he was like, we, like the main problem that
Speaker 1: we have in the America's is that it seems like
Speaker 1: nobody who interacts with like native culture or savage culture
Speaker 1: like wants to continue to live amongst us, like they
Speaker 1: it's just a it's a one way street, and we're losing.
Speaker 1: We're losing people constantly and there's no there's nothing happening
Speaker 1: the opposite way, like everybody's just like fuck this. Man,
Speaker 1: Like when they when they get a taste of our life,
Speaker 1: they don't want our Christianity, they don't want our weird
Speaker 1: fucking fiat currencies. What is this? What is the ship? Yeah,
Speaker 1: so love like the hater attitude towards it, like another
Speaker 1: one David with Savage too. We've got a problem, folks.
Speaker 1: We've got a big problem here. Yeah. Like even people
Speaker 1: who were like kidnapped in battle, you know, raised with
Speaker 1: with the tribe that kidnapped them and killed their family,
Speaker 1: they would come back to Western culture and like maybe
Speaker 1: last a year and then just like go back because
Speaker 1: I mean, because it's truly like to wake up. You know,
Speaker 1: in our society, we wake up and the first thing
Speaker 1: is like I have to start doing things to live
Speaker 1: or I will perish, whereas you know, and anything that
Speaker 1: was more communal, it's like, yep, I'm waking up, and
Speaker 1: I know that I'm going to contribute to this group thing,
Speaker 1: and by doing that, I know other people are acting
Speaker 1: in reciprocity that it makes the whole thing work. Because
Speaker 1: we're all kind of on the same page and not
Speaker 1: having to sweat all this other stuff and ship I
Speaker 1: can only imagine how, like, yeah, what what people in
Speaker 1: our current times if we gave people like another way
Speaker 1: or a new way to think about how society could
Speaker 1: function and be curious to see how, you know, how
Speaker 1: those things would move. Although pretty strong media apparatus to
Speaker 1: kind of keep those kinds of ideas out of here,
Speaker 1: do ye know? With all this reminds me of It
Speaker 1: reminds me of those white women that would go to
Speaker 1: India and then they would find like the ricksha driver
Speaker 1: and then get married to the rickshaw driver and then
Speaker 1: they would just move to India permanently. Like it kind
Speaker 1: of reminds me of the hippies, I guess, like the
Speaker 1: hippies from the white hippies from the seventies that would
Speaker 1: go to South Asia. What do you think the appeal
Speaker 1: was for for those women in terms of like what
Speaker 1: the mind means? Yeah, not being a part of Western society.
Speaker 1: I guess. I don't know. I've always like kind of
Speaker 1: been like why but right, Hey, there's a whole like
Speaker 1: ninety day Fiance, right, isn't that show like based on
Speaker 1: this kind of like concept yeah. I mean, there is
Speaker 1: a woman, Jenny, who is trying to marry her Indian husband,
Speaker 1: although he well at every turn find an excuse not
Speaker 1: to marry her. Let's spoiler alert, they do. All right,
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break, and we will come back
Speaker 1: and talk about the pandemic, but probably keep talking about
Speaker 1: these ideas in the context of that. And we're back
Speaker 1: and we are still in the pandemic. It turns out.
Speaker 1: I was feeling very comfortable having you know, the relatives around.
Speaker 1: I got my parents coming out for Christmas. I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, back to normal. But it feels like, you know,
Speaker 1: there's a new variant. Oh micron? Is that am I
Speaker 1: pronouncing that? I'm acron? Oh micron? Oh micron sounds like
Speaker 1: like the it was on the list of nimes that
Speaker 1: the writers of The Terminator of like Jim Cameron put
Speaker 1: together for sky Net. Like, but it's yeah, it's it's new.
Speaker 1: It's highly transmissible, I guess, but we don't really doesn't
Speaker 1: seem like we know that much other than that it's
Speaker 1: out there and spreading. No. I mean, I think the
Speaker 1: only thing that you can say is that there's a
Speaker 1: new variant that does have significant mutations that they're now saying, Okay,
Speaker 1: well we need to watch this because the mutations they're
Speaker 1: saying with that that means does that make it highly transmissible?
Speaker 1: Does that mean it's possible to even evade vaccines? And
Speaker 1: you know that our inoculations might not be enough to
Speaker 1: deal with this new variant. But it all sounds very bad,
Speaker 1: but again we're still very much trying to learn what's
Speaker 1: happening and like what do you think about it? There
Speaker 1: have been many variants of concern that spring up you watch.
Speaker 1: Maybe it is, maybe it isn't, but at the very
Speaker 1: least it's worth you know, obviously for the World Health
Speaker 1: Organization and anyone everyone who's invested from a scientific perspective,
Speaker 1: they're very much looking at this closely. But when you
Speaker 1: look at kind of like what the nations are doing,
Speaker 1: we're kind of making the same shitty mistakes, like over
Speaker 1: and over, these like knee jerk reaction of just saying like, well,
Speaker 1: because they South South Africa identified at first in their laboratory,
Speaker 1: we're just gonna ban everyone from South Africa and surrounding
Speaker 1: countries because that's because they found it. And it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: that's just because there they have the like labs to
Speaker 1: actually look at this stuff, because not to mention, it's
Speaker 1: also been found like in Hong Kong and parts of Europe.
Speaker 1: I think it seems like a natural reaction to try
Speaker 1: and make your country safer by saying like, Okay, well,
Speaker 1: now we gotta huddle up, man, we gotta make sure
Speaker 1: we're watching the exits, making sure we know what's coming
Speaker 1: in or etcetera. For safety. But if it's that serious,
Speaker 1: then like a lot of people are like, why aren't
Speaker 1: you testing inbound passengers from these places first, rather than
Speaker 1: just saying like, oh, it's a full on band, there's
Speaker 1: nothing else we can do. We just gotta stop that.
Speaker 1: If it's that serious, then you should actually be screening
Speaker 1: people who come in at all to understand, Okay, what's
Speaker 1: everyone's relative like risk factor. But again, it just sort
Speaker 1: of makes for good optics, not really good essentially, like
Speaker 1: a real safety it's not going to affect our safety
Speaker 1: because a lot of people pointed out that by the
Speaker 1: time a lot of these sort of travel restrictions go
Speaker 1: into place, it's already in the country. And the biggest
Speaker 1: thing that most people are pointing to is the fact
Speaker 1: that rather than just closing the fucking shop door, Why
Speaker 1: don't you make it fucking rain vaccines on every fucking country,
Speaker 1: because that's really our our way out of this, or
Speaker 1: one of our more potent ways out of this, is
Speaker 1: to make sure that we're we're able to provide vaccinations
Speaker 1: to the developing world rather than treating it like this
Speaker 1: like you know, Petrie dish for mutations. Yeah, it seems
Speaker 1: like if we just mobilized like it was World War Two,
Speaker 1: like we were talking about at the beginning of the pandemic,
Speaker 1: and we're just like, all right, this is every all
Speaker 1: hands on deck, We're all working to you know, do
Speaker 1: whatever we can to get vaccines out. That's that's the
Speaker 1: way to stop this thing. It would save millions and
Speaker 1: millions of lives. And there's just not the will to
Speaker 1: do that, it seems like. And again I think back
Speaker 1: to sort of this idea of how disconnected we are,
Speaker 1: our lack of even like sense of duty to like
Speaker 1: our fellow human beings. It's just sort of, you know,
Speaker 1: it's highlighted with this idea where it's the fucking earth
Speaker 1: is it's just one big fucking cell. And the idea
Speaker 1: that you think you're fucking borders is going to stop anything,
Speaker 1: or you know, the country you're born in is going
Speaker 1: to prevent things. I mean, to a certain extent that might,
Speaker 1: but you know that it runs completely counter to like
Speaker 1: how we're supposed to approach this, that if we're we
Speaker 1: have to mobilize as human beings, then we should be
Speaker 1: making the vaccine as widely available as possible in order
Speaker 1: to begin to protect the individual points of contact like
Speaker 1: that that allow for a virus to spread. But it
Speaker 1: isn't and we're still looking at just this very we're
Speaker 1: just watching greeds sort of dictate how we are prevent
Speaker 1: or even working within the pandemic. And that's why it's like,
Speaker 1: it's so it's such a hard thing to watch too
Speaker 1: because a lot of you know, the the viral virologists
Speaker 1: and epidemiologists are saying, you know, getting as many people
Speaker 1: vaccinated is key, because if you start having these pockets
Speaker 1: where no one's vaccinated, it's just it's a playground for
Speaker 1: mutations that will then render all the all the research
Speaker 1: that was done could be rendered moot because something has
Speaker 1: mutated past the point of like what we've been able
Speaker 1: to counteract with vaccines and things like that, and you know,
Speaker 1: on that tail end of that, while that's just like
Speaker 1: very disconcerting because you're like, oh, God, like is it
Speaker 1: are we going to fully go back? Because you're already
Speaker 1: seeing on conservative media they're like, hey man, and I
Speaker 1: think the Democrats, I think they're behind this, Okay, like
Speaker 1: they've I think they've got something in hand. Or I
Speaker 1: even read stuff from like anti vax people or people
Speaker 1: who are like stealth anti vactors who are like secretly vaccinated.
Speaker 1: They're like seeing stuff like this, you got a new
Speaker 1: variant and now there's gonna there's gotta be more vaccines.
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, what's going on here? And I'm like,
Speaker 1: that's not an argument, really, that's you're just saying the
Speaker 1: idea is inconvenient. But however, you're completely missing the point
Speaker 1: that you're in a situation outside of your control. This
Speaker 1: isn't that someone is saying like, all right, folks, it's
Speaker 1: time for virus season. Now which ones are we going
Speaker 1: to give the people? And then, uh, how can we
Speaker 1: then make the most money off it? Although that is
Speaker 1: a worldview that seems to be pretty popular at the moment,
Speaker 1: the micro chipping of people, the great vaccine. You tell
Speaker 1: me that the flu mutates every year and I need
Speaker 1: a different flu shot every year with Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: George Soros like, no, se I don't like this. I
Speaker 1: don't like this, So then what's your alternative, Sir. I'm
Speaker 1: just not gonna do it, and that's going to protect
Speaker 1: you from the virus, I'm hoping. So I'm hoping if
Speaker 1: I don't agree with the virus, that's enough to protect me.
Speaker 1: So yeah, And it's just it's it's a very again,
Speaker 1: very tenuous situation, and we're constantly reminded. I think we
Speaker 1: have these moments where it's easy to like exhale and
Speaker 1: be like, oh, man, like that's right. I'm I can
Speaker 1: kind of be around my elderly relatives or people with
Speaker 1: like that are immuno suppressed or whatever. I can just
Speaker 1: that it feels a little less risky, and then we're
Speaker 1: kind of right back into like worrying about things. But
Speaker 1: although I think the main thing that experts saying is like,
Speaker 1: please let us do the research. Don't start buying up everything,
Speaker 1: don't start panicking, but we do need to just you know,
Speaker 1: get a handle in the research. Yeah. Yeah, I do
Speaker 1: think that there's like this element of like what's what's real?
Speaker 1: Like we know that the government health officials are using
Speaker 1: the news to spread awareness about vaccines, so like, and
Speaker 1: you have to kind of take it with like a
Speaker 1: little grain of salt, like it's these conversations aren't for
Speaker 1: us people who are vaccinated. They're really trying to like
Speaker 1: scare people who are unvaccinated into getting vaccinated with facts
Speaker 1: and figures and just trying to figure out like how
Speaker 1: else to do it. So I just like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I mean, it feels really silly to say this way.
Speaker 1: I don't know what is real or like it's been
Speaker 1: such a hard two years of like the up and
Speaker 1: down of like the pin like the virus is awful,
Speaker 1: and then now all of a sudden, like we we're
Speaker 1: not wearing masks, and then we are wearing masks and
Speaker 1: we're traveling and not traveling, and like the whole up
Speaker 1: and down of the past two years has been Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's been hard to figure out like to make the
Speaker 1: proper risk assessments. Sure, yeah, yeah, And it does feel
Speaker 1: like and then you'll go to like you'll even go
Speaker 1: to like a town over and you're like, oh, nobody
Speaker 1: whoars masks here. Yeah, everybody's massed the funk up, And yeah,
Speaker 1: like I think there because they're because everything is so
Speaker 1: fractured if there's no way to have like consistent messaging.
Speaker 1: And then on top of it, yeah, like rightly. So
Speaker 1: it's like, well, the same news channel that's telling me
Speaker 1: that the labor shortage is causing inflation that I completely
Speaker 1: disagree with, is also telling me this other stuff. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, let me compartmentalize because I don't need
Speaker 1: your take because you're a Wall Street goon and you're
Speaker 1: talking about the economy. Bring the doctor on who's not
Speaker 1: a fucking liar. And then you're like, Okay, I like this,
Speaker 1: this feels good. I trust the science. And luckily there's
Speaker 1: like another recent survey that said, but faith in science
Speaker 1: has grown up very significantly over the last year. So
Speaker 1: I think we're just living in a one of those
Speaker 1: weird places where people like science overall. I think there's
Speaker 1: a lot of gratitude. And then to that point too,
Speaker 1: is you know, there are you therapeutic drugs for COVID
Speaker 1: That seemed very very promising because at this point we've
Speaker 1: all just been sort of like, man, if you get
Speaker 1: it and it's bad enough. There's only so much that
Speaker 1: you can do. But along with like the preventative medicines,
Speaker 1: like through vaccines, they're also now therapeutic drugs that are
Speaker 1: showing some pretty significant results for people, um like you know,
Speaker 1: like when they get a positive test. By taking it,
Speaker 1: it really can lessen the damage that the virus can do.
Speaker 1: So we got it's it's it's up and down, folks
Speaker 1: up and down. H I hope we can figure this
Speaker 1: out sooner than later. Yeah, yeah, can we get to
Speaker 1: that asap? World were just like kind of you know,
Speaker 1: just get rid of the one second I'm trying to
Speaker 1: figure out how to get the funk off this rock.
Speaker 1: Then I'll get back to you. I mean, I knew
Speaker 1: we were in trouble when we lost Russell Brand. Did
Speaker 1: you guys hear this? He's an antibax right now? Oh man,
Speaker 1: he's so cool, that guy. I mean, he doesn't give
Speaker 1: a funk about and anything. So it's like, what, alright,
Speaker 1: let's uh, let's take a quick break. We'll be right back,
Speaker 1: and we're back and we do you know, we were
Speaker 1: talking about how Matthew McConaughey was pulling better than either
Speaker 1: candidate in the Texas governor's race, and he had voiced,
Speaker 1: you know, interest in running for governor. It feels very
Speaker 1: much like, you know, if he was flirting with somebody,
Speaker 1: like just in a friendly way and they were like,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get married, like he loves me. Yeah. It's
Speaker 1: just like, you know, politics is like the star power
Speaker 1: here is off the charts. Let's he's into it. Let's
Speaker 1: get him in Let's get him in here. And he
Speaker 1: was just like, oh no, sorry, I was. I wasn't
Speaker 1: serious about that. It is basically where we're at. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he I think while many were like, oh wow, look
Speaker 1: at that. He's putting a smash on Greg Abbott, he
Speaker 1: definitely he had to announce, okay that he's as much
Speaker 1: as y'all wanted it, he might not be able to deliver.
Speaker 1: He just tweeted from his Twitter account an American flag
Speaker 1: emoji with this video clip, Hey everybody, mcca hey here, let'sen.
Speaker 1: Over the past two years, I've been working on the
Speaker 1: answer to the question of how I can be most
Speaker 1: useful in this life going forward, Useful to myself, used
Speaker 1: looked to my family, and to the most amount of people.
Speaker 1: One category of service I've been exploring his politics. I've
Speaker 1: been considering a run for the governor of Texas. I've
Speaker 1: been listening, I've been learning and measuring, been studying Texas
Speaker 1: politics and American politics. What have I learned a lot?
Speaker 1: That we have some problems we need to fix that
Speaker 1: are politics needs a new purpose. We have divibes that
Speaker 1: need healing. Okay, I mean with trust in our lives,
Speaker 1: shining a light on our ship, the cross party lines,
Speaker 1: the ones that build bridges instead of burn him, but
Speaker 1: our children, Margaret's asset. So hey, let's because good apparents
Speaker 1: as we can be Okay, all right? Anyway, so all
Speaker 1: that to say like that, that's a three minute long video.
Speaker 1: Does he eventually say, but I'm not going to run?
Speaker 1: What is all that to be? Like? But I'm off
Speaker 1: this look, And I think that's what we should I
Speaker 1: think we should have expected nothing less from Matthew McConaughey
Speaker 1: because he loves the monologue. He loves the monologue, which
Speaker 1: I'm also surprised. That's all you get to do when
Speaker 1: you're politician, right, that's what he thought he would only
Speaker 1: get to do, is is the governor though? You know? Right?
Speaker 1: And then the second, he's like, he's like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I feel like people should decide if they want the vaccine,
Speaker 1: but like, what the fun are you talking abou? All right? Um?
Speaker 1: Not just it's not just one way monologue like I thought.
Speaker 1: So yeah, all that to say is he was just saying,
Speaker 1: you know, he's a simple man and you want he
Speaker 1: considered the path of political leadership and it's humbling, but
Speaker 1: he's deciding to not take it at this moment um.
Speaker 1: So he's not going to be throwing his sweat soaked
Speaker 1: workout bandana into the ring. Do we think that his
Speaker 1: people that were behind him are going to go to
Speaker 1: bath Beato? Beato definitely had worse numbers against him, so
Speaker 1: that could suggest that there's like more room to grow
Speaker 1: with McConaughey leaving the race. But it also feels like,
Speaker 1: I mean, like, hey, look, he tried, man, he tried.
Speaker 1: Beto tried. I don't know if there's he's going to
Speaker 1: get some better strategic behind his campaign to try and make,
Speaker 1: you know, get a different result. But I mean it
Speaker 1: feels like I think you've we've we've rang that rag dry.
Speaker 1: Whatever you're gonna get out of Beto ork In terms
Speaker 1: of you know, his his ability to like win in Texas.
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people support him, but it
Speaker 1: just seems like there may maybe some newer ideas. I
Speaker 1: don't know, Yeah, I think generally that's just the problem
Speaker 1: with people running Democrats is like it's there's there aren't
Speaker 1: many exciting like you know, in terms of like spotlighted candidates,
Speaker 1: there's not a lot that you're like, oh, maybe that
Speaker 1: got to know, it seems to be coming from like
Speaker 1: the newer generation of younger politicians that have like something
Speaker 1: a little bit different to offer. Well, who who else
Speaker 1: is running? Right? This is the selection is gonna the
Speaker 1: primary is gonna be marched first next year. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean I think it's gonna be Beto or Abbott. And
Speaker 1: you know, as a podcast, we haven't decided who we're
Speaker 1: going to officially endorsed indoors there. Yeah, I mean it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, Beto obviously the less or of two evils,
Speaker 1: the far lesser of two evils. So hopefully people do
Speaker 1: kind of get in line behind him. I just don't
Speaker 1: know like how much enthusiasm there's going to be for
Speaker 1: him at this point. But I mean, I don't know
Speaker 1: if uh, let's see, I think is Jolie and cashtro my,
Speaker 1: how don't he might run? Okay? So I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: he used to be the mayor of San Antonio. I
Speaker 1: think he might have a He might who knows he
Speaker 1: could have a good shot. It's I think when you
Speaker 1: just look at sort of the politics there and like
Speaker 1: the way campaigns are going to be running, it's hard
Speaker 1: to really imagine, like rhetorically, what this thing is gonna
Speaker 1: look like and who's going to be best suited when
Speaker 1: you're like when you're debating someone who's like books make
Speaker 1: little white kids feel bad? Change my mind? And you
Speaker 1: know that's sort of where the limits are of the discourse. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, as important as that race says, we do
Speaker 1: have to move on to an even more important state
Speaker 1: based competition, and that is, of course America's favorite Christmas candy,
Speaker 1: brought to you by Candy Store dot Com. It is
Speaker 1: a you know, another one of those sound it's a
Speaker 1: bad map. Fuck these maps. There's something that I probably
Speaker 1: couldn't say if it was spawn con but candy store
Speaker 1: dot Com fuck them. Yeah, and here's our favorite candy.
Speaker 1: But you guys probably go to the page rather than
Speaker 1: and again, I sound like I'm just go to the
Speaker 1: page and when they ask for your information, just like,
Speaker 1: don't that you can trust them, Just surrender it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's uh, they did ask twenty three thousand people
Speaker 1: from across America what their favorite candy was and then
Speaker 1: you know, organize that data based on state cross reference,
Speaker 1: sit with manufacturer candy manufacturers to make sure sales back
Speaker 1: up the findings, and it's you know, it does feel
Speaker 1: like it's a little bit more like rather than the
Speaker 1: one the ones where every state has a different like
Speaker 1: candy that they like, which I feel like they it
Speaker 1: has been edited in order to make it as interesting
Speaker 1: as possible. Here, like it's the answers are pretty like
Speaker 1: appropriately boring. It's yeah, peppermint bark is like not is king?
Speaker 1: Peppermint bark is king? Yeah, I like that it is.
Speaker 1: It feels like things if you went to the store
Speaker 1: in the candy like Christmas candy section, it's like these
Speaker 1: seven things that you're used to seeing because like some
Speaker 1: of the other maps, like what's there's favorite thanks Giving
Speaker 1: side and there's like these wild esoterrotories like me and
Speaker 1: they like candy pigs hooves and you're like what the
Speaker 1: fund is that even real? This definitely feels like a
Speaker 1: CBS aisle or a while aile of candy, because like
Speaker 1: I think there's there's something that are missing, like why
Speaker 1: is fudging not on here? Like I feel like, you know,
Speaker 1: Holiday fied with peppermint bark, but that's not something you
Speaker 1: get it. The main ones you see are like Reese's cups, Sure,
Speaker 1: Reese's pieces like in the little or sorry, Rece's pecan
Speaker 1: uh in like a candy cane form like a plastic
Speaker 1: cone cane or cane. Then like the Holiday colored Hershey kisses.
Speaker 1: This all ship that's normal, and the candy canes like
Speaker 1: whatever that's like. When I was a kid, I used
Speaker 1: to like him because I was like a free sugar
Speaker 1: that you could find, like available at a store. But
Speaker 1: it always remains me too much a toothpaste. It was
Speaker 1: just like, what what this is like a toothpaste popsicle?
Speaker 1: Oh look they just hardened this toothpaste and put a
Speaker 1: little candy swirl around it. They got me. It's like toothpaste,
Speaker 1: except it rots your teeth instead of cleaning them. My
Speaker 1: theory is that they that peppermint bark has is they
Speaker 1: called it like the hard charging Peppermint Bark because it's
Speaker 1: like taking over a bunch of states that used to
Speaker 1: be Reese's Cup strongholds. And they're saying that like it's
Speaker 1: the biggest grower, and I'm I'm wondering if it's because
Speaker 1: they have all this equipment to make candy canes, but
Speaker 1: like most of the country has found out that there's
Speaker 1: other candy besides candy canes, Like they don't think that
Speaker 1: that's the only Christmas candy. So they're like, all right,
Speaker 1: what if we dropped it and then just like picked
Speaker 1: up the pieces and gluted onto like some low quality chocolate,
Speaker 1: Like that's how you got something. I like Peppermint Park.
Speaker 1: It's funny because I I haven't had the first time
Speaker 1: I had it was like seven years ago. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: I was pretty ignorant to the Peppermint Park game. It's
Speaker 1: a new kid. Yeah, but it's like, can we talked
Speaker 1: about the reindeer corn? That's honestly, yeah, that's the one
Speaker 1: weird one. It's so weird. It's like candy I've never
Speaker 1: heard of candy corn in Christmas colors? Yeah, which is
Speaker 1: what this is. The Deep South is having a is
Speaker 1: having a tough go here on this map, got Louisiana
Speaker 1: and Oklahoma are both candy cane strongholds, like one of
Speaker 1: the few. And then you've got reindeer corn number one
Speaker 1: in Alabama. Reindeer corn is candy corn with different food
Speaker 1: color and just a red green lie lie. I mean,
Speaker 1: although we're just looking at green and red m and
Speaker 1: m's and actually it's a completely different. So okay, fair played,
Speaker 1: fair played reindeer corn. I can't hate totally, but yeah,
Speaker 1: it looks not good. Also, Florida, what are you doing?
Speaker 1: I mean the holiday skittles Holiday mixed skittles, which what
Speaker 1: that is? Something I did not I was not aware existed.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like what is a holiday So? Is
Speaker 1: it like apples and like oranges and pairs, like the
Speaker 1: things that you get in like a fruit gift basket
Speaker 1: or something like? What what is a holiday skittles mix
Speaker 1: it is? I don't know. I think it could just
Speaker 1: be a different um colors. Okay, it's a Christmas flavored now, okay.
Speaker 1: So flavors include banana berry, gross Kiwi lime, no thank you, Mango, TAngelo, pineapple, passion, fruit, strawberry, star,
Speaker 1: fruit berry punch melonberry, raspberry, strawberry, and wild cherry. So
Speaker 1: there's a lot going on there. So it's like from
Speaker 1: the Blue pack, right, isn't that? Aren't those the blue
Speaker 1: Skittles flavors? From the Blue pouch? Okay, so you know
Speaker 1: what this is. I was that I was actually reading
Speaker 1: a Skittles mashups wild berry and tropical candy. So ignore
Speaker 1: everything I just said, but don't edit it out, please.
Speaker 1: It's important to me that everybody here how stupid I am. Okay.
Speaker 1: It also looks like has Haez has made the list?
Speaker 1: Oh where they Who's pets? Uh? Their second and third
Speaker 1: in Louisiana, New Mexico, New Jersey. I gotta say I
Speaker 1: was a big Pezz fan growing up. This is a
Speaker 1: great stocking stuffer. Yeah. Yeah. I like pez because it's
Speaker 1: like it was like a toy, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like it was the closest thing because you'd be like, oh, ship,
Speaker 1: look it's sucking Superman or fucking Gumby. Yeah. I think
Speaker 1: that I have a Gumby pest dispense. Anyway, all that
Speaker 1: to say, that's like these kinds of candies, though, I
Speaker 1: feel like chocolate should be king of the Holidays. But
Speaker 1: I'm very biased. Okay, so what are your favorite holiday candies?
Speaker 1: Many Reese's Cups, Reese's pecs, any any eminem Do they
Speaker 1: have to be in that like triangle like like the
Speaker 1: tree or do you like just generic circle? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: you need actually take the little and take the little
Speaker 1: mini cups and build a life size Christmas tree out
Speaker 1: of them and then just eat it as fast as
Speaker 1: I possibly can, bit by bit. I love like Peppermint Bark.
Speaker 1: I'll eat that ship all day because it reminds me
Speaker 1: like Andy's chocolate. Yeah, that's and I think as a
Speaker 1: kid that was like my favorite little kind of you know,
Speaker 1: rapper chocolate that you could get with like at someone's
Speaker 1: house or whatever, at a grandparents home. So yeah, Peppermint
Speaker 1: Bark involks that. I'm also I like thin mint, so
Speaker 1: like you know, mint chocolate chip ice cream. Whenever you're
Speaker 1: mashing mint and chocolate together, I'm I'm I'm, I'm here
Speaker 1: for it. You know who is fucking up is Andy's
Speaker 1: and whoever's in charge of their marketing, because Andy's should
Speaker 1: be here instead of Peppermint park or and he should
Speaker 1: have Peppermint Bark exactly should York peppermint patties be here.
Speaker 1: Yeah they're Yah York and Andy's they need to be like,
Speaker 1: you know, squat up and then pull up to Peppermint
Speaker 1: Bark's house and just spray the ship out that place,
Speaker 1: you know what, I mean, to let him know it's war.
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm Arkansas has a new winner and it
Speaker 1: is Starburst Mary Mix. Cherry Cheer and Strawberry blitz In
Speaker 1: are the two flavors. And it's all red and green.
Speaker 1: Just added a word to the regular flavor and the green.
Speaker 1: Come on, y'all, what are you doing here? I mean, look,
Speaker 1: it's all marketing, but Peppermint Bark number one. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: shout out to Peppermint Bark and and you know whatever.
Speaker 1: A candy executive was like dropped a can through a
Speaker 1: candy cane and fury at how bad sales had become
Speaker 1: and then like saw the shattered pieces and we're like, everybody,
Speaker 1: sit down. I got an idea. Sounds like it sounds
Speaker 1: like a plot to a Hallmark Christmas movie. Yeah right,
Speaker 1: I mean, Miles, how are you doing? By the way,
Speaker 1: I feel like I like I fall I'm falling down
Speaker 1: on the job asking you this late in our first
Speaker 1: post Thanksgiving episode, How are you feeling about the coming
Speaker 1: Hallmark Christmas movie season coming? It's been happening for the
Speaker 1: past month. I haven't really I haven't checked out the
Speaker 1: Hallmark stuff. I started off by trawling Netflix for the
Speaker 1: ones Netflix has made. I watched The Prince that Christmas
Speaker 1: Switched three with Vanessa Hudgens a little. It's just you
Speaker 1: know that one's getting away from him, you know. I
Speaker 1: hate to hate to say that one's gotten completely away
Speaker 1: from I don't know what the point is of it
Speaker 1: and how it relates to Christmas. I watched the other
Speaker 1: one with Jimmy oh Yang and Nina Dobrev kind of
Speaker 1: bailed on it, like I do if I'm not working
Speaker 1: with it. By the end of the second act, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't even need to see a third act. I'm
Speaker 1: off because I just like the vibes. And then I
Speaker 1: watched another one that was about Santa's daughter who avoid
Speaker 1: This one was well Santa's daughter. It's like treated like
Speaker 1: a Shakespearean thing, where like they have to like she's
Speaker 1: almost being betrothed to the Jack Frost family in order
Speaker 1: for Santa and Frost to like have a tight bond,
Speaker 1: but then there was also like talk of like teaming
Speaker 1: up with the tooth Fairy. It was a very bizarre thing.
Speaker 1: So her solution is just to go to college and
Speaker 1: trying to be a regular person. Got it, Got it,
Speaker 1: And that one was super all over the place. But overall, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm fully in it. Is there are there any
Speaker 1: good Hallmark ones tests coming out? Yeah? I just watched
Speaker 1: the first Indian full cast one last night. It's called
Speaker 1: what was called Baking Spirits Bright and it's about like
Speaker 1: this like South Indian woman who's making her mom, sorry
Speaker 1: her nannies plumb fruitcake and so they have this whole
Speaker 1: like fruitcake business. Um, I don't know, I'm I'm obviously
Speaker 1: for people that know, like I'm really into Hallmark movies
Speaker 1: for I don't know why. And it was it was
Speaker 1: cool to finally see representation homework. There's usually more representation
Speaker 1: in Lifetime Christmas movies than homework, but it's been cool
Speaker 1: that one was Okay. There's also like Boyfriends of Christmas
Speaker 1: Past with as an Asian American female protagonist and her
Speaker 1: love and triests are all multiple racist, so that was
Speaker 1: also cool. Yeah, that's like the one with the Jimmy
Speaker 1: Oh Yang one. I was like, okay, I'm like they
Speaker 1: got him and the one from What's uh never have
Speaker 1: I ever that guy who was like the Japanese guy.
Speaker 1: So I was like, okay, look at look at the
Speaker 1: That was the thing I've always been like, when are
Speaker 1: we going to see Asian people in these movies? When
Speaker 1: I feel like we're making it, like a turn has
Speaker 1: been made and maybe our scripts will finally get picked up,
Speaker 1: and that what I mean to ask you. You said
Speaker 1: you were working on a script. I didn't want to
Speaker 1: be like, is that the Holiday movie one? Or you know,
Speaker 1: my holiday script is done? I wrote the Mary mus
Speaker 1: some Christmas rom con rom com back in I just
Speaker 1: pandemic happened And I don't really know how to sell scripts,
Speaker 1: but hopefully can do something now. Um Marst Harvest Entertainment
Speaker 1: they take all the time, yeah there because they do
Speaker 1: all they do a ton in the christ movies. Are
Speaker 1: you working on a on a Christmas group? I was
Speaker 1: that we pitched it. We I pitched it to them,
Speaker 1: it didn't work out, didn't work out, they passed on it, boo.
Speaker 1: And then I kind of see, you know, I kind
Speaker 1: of see my idea popping up with other stuff. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that thing, but I will say that it's
Speaker 1: also very though. The creativity amongst the Christmas films is
Speaker 1: pretty limited. So there's a there's two colors that you're
Speaker 1: working with, red and green, and you're you're starburst can
Speaker 1: be green and red or red and green. There's a
Speaker 1: new one coming out on Comedy Central next week that
Speaker 1: features to Indian girls and it's kind of like I
Speaker 1: think how Pens in it too, So it's like a
Speaker 1: do wllly Christmas mashup. What is your favorite Christmas movie? Lifetime,
Speaker 1: Hallmark or otherwise otherwise it's Edwards is your hand? Mm
Speaker 1: hmm Edwards hand the prequel, the prequel where he's only
Speaker 1: got one hand and still pretty good. He doesn't have
Speaker 1: face scissor this other hand. Oh man, that was That
Speaker 1: is exactly what my dad would call it. He can't
Speaker 1: he can't get pluralizing anything. Brad Pitt is Brad Pitts
Speaker 1: and Edward scissor hands is Edward scissor hand for Edwards
Speaker 1: Edwards scissor. That would be if there were multiple if
Speaker 1: there was a multiplicity type situation and multiple Edwards scissor hand.
Speaker 1: What's your what's your outlier Christmas movie? Jacksie's die Hard.
Speaker 1: I mean that's such a whack answer. But die Hard
Speaker 1: was for you know, the portion of my life when
Speaker 1: I was thought I was too grown up to say
Speaker 1: Johns was my favorite movie. I said die Hard was
Speaker 1: my favorite movie. So I do really love die Hard.
Speaker 1: Also really love die Hard too, which is pretty absurd
Speaker 1: and over the top and also very Christmas eve. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I think I like that classics you're scrooged. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what's funny because the movie Love Hard with Jimmy oh Yang,
Speaker 1: it's called Love Hard because like kind of one of
Speaker 1: the sort of thrust of it is like they bond
Speaker 1: over their love for die Hard as a Christmas film,
Speaker 1: and it's meant to sort of be like this hot
Speaker 1: take that like she's like, no one believes me until
Speaker 1: you and the whole the whole conceited is kind of interesting.
Speaker 1: This dude, Jimmy O Yang, you know from Silicon Valley
Speaker 1: probably remember him. He basically was cat fishing Nina dough
Speaker 1: Brev with another dude's picture and she thought she was
Speaker 1: like with this like other guy and so, and they've
Speaker 1: like they kicked up. They hit it off over phone
Speaker 1: and text and ship like that, and then he's like, hey,
Speaker 1: why don't you come to He's like, or he didn't invite.
Speaker 1: He said, oh, I wish I could spend the holidays
Speaker 1: with you, and she took that as I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: surprise him until she pulls up and realized he's like,
Speaker 1: you are not the gentleman from the fucking photo, and
Speaker 1: that's where the hijinks and sue. But she's she's acting
Speaker 1: like this is the first she's ever heard of somebody
Speaker 1: claiming that die It is the holiday is a Christmas
Speaker 1: heavy Wait no, I mean like her thing is like
Speaker 1: she argues with people who don't believe that die Hard
Speaker 1: is a Christmas movie, and then they're like, it is
Speaker 1: a Christmas movie. It's the perfect Christmas movie, and you're like, okay,
Speaker 1: thank you, very specific my outlier pick for Christmas movie.
Speaker 1: I guess if it's an outlier, I don't know, bad Santa,
Speaker 1: it's still it's there's something about how fucked up he is,
Speaker 1: and it puts me in the holiday spirit and more
Speaker 1: traditionally love jingle all the way I've never seen Oh
Speaker 1: my god, Jack you gotta get a Turboman doll for
Speaker 1: your kid. You're gonna be a bad dad that one.
Speaker 1: And also Home Alone too, man, I like New York.
Speaker 1: I love New York in the winter's too heavy. Also,
Speaker 1: I think it's the idea of I think as a kid,
Speaker 1: I like the autonomy in the city as a child
Speaker 1: that Kevin experienced in Home Alone too, and be like,
Speaker 1: oh look at you like duping people with your talk
Speaker 1: boy and ship. Yeah, and I thought that was really cool.
Speaker 1: And uh, also the idea that you could just get
Speaker 1: room service and eat a bunch of ice cream. It
Speaker 1: just still resonates with my childish brain. And you said
Speaker 1: that it's your favorite cameo of all time? Is Donald Trump?
Speaker 1: Donald Trump showing up? And you said that's when you
Speaker 1: knew it was a star. He said, that's when I said.
Speaker 1: I remember as a kid, I said, this guy about
Speaker 1: to be the president. What's the matter? Store wouldn't accept
Speaker 1: your stolen credit card? Is a fun movie? Quote? Yeah,
Speaker 1: they only let Trump onto that movie because they wanted
Speaker 1: to film in the plaza, Like that was the stipulation. Yeah.
Speaker 1: He was like, deal, if if I'm if I can
Speaker 1: play Kevin? Uh what I mean, or just show up,
Speaker 1: you know whatever. If you don't like me for the role,
Speaker 1: it's fine, I'll just show up. Perfect idea. He passes me.
Speaker 1: We lock eyes. He realizes I'm him in the future.
Speaker 1: I realized that's me as a boy, and then we
Speaker 1: can go off on a whole other narrative where I'm
Speaker 1: the King of New York sticky bandits put him in
Speaker 1: jail forever. And there's a new Home Alone too with
Speaker 1: like a little kid. It's on Disney Plus, I haven't
Speaker 1: watched it yet. Yeah, And is it Anna Kendrick in
Speaker 1: it too? Yeah? Yeah, but that one, is it still
Speaker 1: in the tradition of the Home Alone? You know? I
Speaker 1: think so. I think. I'm not sure if they're trying
Speaker 1: to redo the first one or if it's like the
Speaker 1: third chapter Ellie Kemper h Ellie Kemper, Archie Yates, Hey,
Speaker 1: Ashley b past guests, Rob Delaney, Pete Holmes. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that one, I think that came out earlier this or
Speaker 1: last month. And yeah, they whoa Mikey Day I guess
Speaker 1: wrote this too, So they've got a lot of interesting
Speaker 1: comedy things going on there. But that one says a
Speaker 1: married couple tries to steal back a valuable loom from
Speaker 1: a troublesome kid and a very spirit of Christmas. The
Speaker 1: Wets are a married couple. Now, I mean, if that's
Speaker 1: not progress, I guess it's not. Anyways, has such a
Speaker 1: pleasure having you on the show as always, Where can
Speaker 1: people find you and follow you? I'm always down to
Speaker 1: talk about Christmas movies. I am at Tasi star on
Speaker 1: on the socials. I'm actually out in a book that
Speaker 1: just came out a couple of weeks ago. I have
Speaker 1: a story in this book called New Moons, Contemporary Writing
Speaker 1: by North American Muslims. So you can find me in
Speaker 1: a bookstore too. I got New Moons. Is there a
Speaker 1: tweet or some of the work of social media you've
Speaker 1: been enjoying? Alright, tweet I've been enjoying because we're still
Speaker 1: on residual Thanksgiving There from at Daniel Suliman. Fact of
Speaker 1: the Day. Pumpkin pie became a popular dish during Civil
Speaker 1: War era celebration of Thanksgiving because pumpkins were grown on
Speaker 1: small farms, not plantations, making the pie a symbol of
Speaker 1: abolitionists virtue thought. And then it continues. The thread continues
Speaker 1: with the history of abolitionist history of Thanksgiving. I thought
Speaker 1: that was really interesting, the persistence of turkey and pumpkin pie,
Speaker 1: even though they're both you know, fine, but it's inspired
Speaker 1: that the people continue to funk with punkin pie and turkey,
Speaker 1: all these generations at miles where can people find you
Speaker 1: and follow you on? What's a tweet you've been enjoying?
Speaker 1: Find me on Twitter and Instagram and miles of gray.
Speaker 1: Also the other show for twenty Day Fiance obviously feel
Speaker 1: like ninety day. Come listen to me yell about that. Uh.
Speaker 1: This one is from Lauren Huff at Lauren the Huff
Speaker 1: h o U g H. And again to your point
Speaker 1: Tazz about sort of this this hangover from the holidays,
Speaker 1: and again I think intersecting with just kind of having
Speaker 1: boundaries when you're working. This one says, none of y'all
Speaker 1: motherfucker's better be answering email on Sunday night, we are
Speaker 1: not ending the weekend early. Hold the line, which is true, like,
Speaker 1: come on, y'all, give yourselves fucking time. You can actually say, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not looking at this ship till much old, old old,
Speaker 1: I mean, whenever you can just really hold your boundaries
Speaker 1: because that's all we got right now. All right, let's
Speaker 1: see some tweets I've been enjoying Miami. They tweeted everyone
Speaker 1: who didn't post their Urban Dictionary names should get one
Speaker 1: hundred dollars. It's about, tweeted. Funny men attract hot women
Speaker 1: and funny women attract hate comments on Twitter, and then
Speaker 1: Whitmer Thomas tweeted, I just want to feel what the
Speaker 1: guys singer in the b F F T twos feels
Speaker 1: And I just put that guy's blood in my veins.
Speaker 1: I would, I mean mouth who who could be? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Fuck that man? If they could bottle up that red energy.
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Speaker 1: I just think of the like coco Pelli, but these
Speaker 1: guys like it sounds like they sampled maybe some like
Speaker 1: inking like like ruby and pam flute kind of band stuff,
Speaker 1: and like the chorus of like I follow me I
Speaker 1: on coco Pelli. It's it's kind of a weird list.
Speaker 1: It's just kind of a fun song. I mean, although
Speaker 1: I have not looked into the lyrics too much because
Speaker 1: they're not singing a whole lot, but this is Coco
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