Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season two, O seven,
Speaker 1: Episode two of Dirtily Like Guys start production of My
Speaker 1: Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take a
Speaker 1: deep dive into America's shared consciousness. And it's Tuesday, October
Speaker 1: ninety one. My name is Jack O'Brien. A k so Hi, Hi,
Speaker 1: it's Jack O'Brien. Some guy bent some metal with my cagles,
Speaker 1: but my prostate was dry, and then good old boys
Speaker 1: were soaking choose left and right, singing Morning, it's the
Speaker 1: Daily's like Geist Morning. It's the Daily's Like That is
Speaker 1: courtesy of Lex and Lusey, and I'm thrilled to be
Speaker 1: joined as always by my co host, Mr Miles Gray.
Speaker 1: Do you be Weed? At the start of I Love
Speaker 1: I Watch you disappear and smoke ever really thing ninja
Speaker 1: enough phoe Oh. Shout out to Hannah on the discord
Speaker 1: for that. Just believe Megan Fox, machine Gun Kelly Inspired
Speaker 1: a k A shout out MFC Ericsson. Also we asked
Speaker 1: in MFC Ericson provided the photoshop job that we all deserved.
Speaker 1: Jack and I in the red carpet and I saw
Speaker 1: some other people getting on the photoshop, So shout out
Speaker 1: the listeners who got the assignment. Now, I definitely pay
Speaker 1: attention to the show while we're recording it, but could
Speaker 1: you refresh my memory? What that? What? What the request
Speaker 1: was there? So okay, you know, so you saw and
Speaker 1: you saw the picture. Yeah, yeah, I saw the Okay,
Speaker 1: my wife, My wife's a good look. I was like,
Speaker 1: what's going on with you, Miles, But no, we were
Speaker 1: talking about the Megan Fox thing, and we're just talking
Speaker 1: about how cliche their photos were, like her aiming the
Speaker 1: gun at his cross and stuff and like and I'm
Speaker 1: just like, yo, somebody photo shop us as a terrible
Speaker 1: making Fox mg K couple. And then I was turned
Speaker 1: into Steve Harvey, right, so you're Steve Harvey. I was
Speaker 1: I okay, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was my confusion
Speaker 1: with the with the technina at my nether region. Yeah. Well, Miles,
Speaker 1: we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat
Speaker 1: by one of the funniest and smartest writers and people
Speaker 1: I've ever worked with. He is the author of the
Speaker 1: book How to Fight Presidents. Is currently a writer for
Speaker 1: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver, is in development on
Speaker 1: a fishing show with Eli Manning and co hosts The
Speaker 1: podcast Quick Question with Soren and Daniel. Please welcome the hilarious,
Speaker 1: the talented, the brilliant Daniel O'Brien Obey, thank you, thank
Speaker 1: you so much. There's nothing I could do but underwhelmed
Speaker 1: after after such a gracious set up. No relation, by
Speaker 1: the way, good good to see you. Tell me about
Speaker 1: this fishing show. I've noticed a lot of Eli Manning
Speaker 1: content from you. Uh, you seem real thirsty for a
Speaker 1: project with Eli. Well, what's your relation to Eli Manning?
Speaker 1: I am. I'm a huge New York Football Giants fan.
Speaker 1: I think there's something inherently very funny about Eli. He's
Speaker 1: just like an earnest, big goofball who shouldn't have two
Speaker 1: Super Bowl wings, but he does and there's nothing we
Speaker 1: can do about it. And I just love this, this
Speaker 1: charming dufus oath. And I've been following him on Twitter
Speaker 1: and like I, I don't like to be very loud
Speaker 1: about what I want professionally on Twitter and like ask
Speaker 1: for opportunities because it seems gauch to me. But I
Speaker 1: suspend that rule just for Eli Manning because I want
Speaker 1: to do something with him and I and I surely
Speaker 1: he's not even aware of my existence, and if he
Speaker 1: was ever tipped off to it, he would think I'm
Speaker 1: making fun of him in some way When I I
Speaker 1: sent him pitch that, I'm like, like, I want to
Speaker 1: do a show with you in a bunch of puppets
Speaker 1: and they try to teach you Spanish. And I'm sure
Speaker 1: because people think he's making fun of you, Eli, I'm not.
Speaker 1: I want to do a puppet show with you, or
Speaker 1: I want to do a show about hot wings. I
Speaker 1: know he got this deal with Frank's Red Hot sauce,
Speaker 1: and I know you like fishing and I love fishing.
Speaker 1: Let's do a phishing show with it without puppets. I
Speaker 1: don't care. I just I think if if I could
Speaker 1: just sit in a room with Eli Manning, well we
Speaker 1: can whip up something for Peacock or FX on Hulu
Speaker 1: or I guess I probably should suggest HBO Max something.
Speaker 1: We can do something together, Eli, please. I mean, if
Speaker 1: you think deeply right, I think the way to get
Speaker 1: the Red Hots thing is I'm sadly you would have
Speaker 1: to quit your Emmy award winning job and work for
Speaker 1: an ad agency that has the Frank's Red Hot account,
Speaker 1: and then you pitch the like the special content and
Speaker 1: then you know, through his deal, they're gonna be like,
Speaker 1: that's great, We're gonna go to Eli with it. I
Speaker 1: feel like that's the quickest route there. But I don't
Speaker 1: think you should quit your job, so maybe you will
Speaker 1: just bombard him on Twitter until he responds. Yeah. It
Speaker 1: was difficult enough to convince my parents what I was
Speaker 1: doing mattered when I was working for a comedy website.
Speaker 1: If I now have to quit my television job, I
Speaker 1: was like, I worked for the Hot Sauce Company. Now
Speaker 1: it's a long con. It's gonna pay off. This is
Speaker 1: gonna work out for us. But you just have to
Speaker 1: trust me and tell the neighbors that I'm on hyads
Speaker 1: for work while I work for the Hot Sauce Company.
Speaker 1: I believe, I believe that you can make this happen
Speaker 1: no matter what. I just think it's it's in the
Speaker 1: cards for you. Thank you really really means a lot
Speaker 1: to me, And I only say that because I have
Speaker 1: to believe that. In order for me and Prince Harry
Speaker 1: to hang out like I desperately want to happen. So
Speaker 1: if that can happen, then yours definitely is happening. So
Speaker 1: onward with the Eli show. Hell yeah, absolutely, I would
Speaker 1: pay very good money to watch Eli Manning learned Spanish
Speaker 1: puppet to ur not because you know the sub breddit.
Speaker 1: Eli five explained like I'm five, e l I five.
Speaker 1: Eli explain like I'm Eli Joe. You funk with that? Okay, Wow,
Speaker 1: that's now? Is that Eli explaining the most complex things out?
Speaker 1: Five year old bro? So every week we watched Eli
Speaker 1: learned about all kinds of like quantum physics and things. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's Eli asking since here questions of five year olds,
Speaker 1: and they help him, They teach him and the savant
Speaker 1: type five year olds like genius five year olds, and
Speaker 1: Eli the frustrated with Eli man how do I do
Speaker 1: lowercase bees versus lowercase ts? And they're like, use your hand,
Speaker 1: make it look like a bed and it's left to right.
Speaker 1: That's what it looks like. That's what looks like. Eli. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I'm here to talk to you about the large
Speaker 1: Hadron collider. What's that? Yeah? Have you watched any of
Speaker 1: the Monday night football kind of telecasts or simulcasts I
Speaker 1: guess where he and Peyton kind of chop it up.
Speaker 1: I have not, because Peyton is not part of my
Speaker 1: my football sitcom narrative. I think because Peyton is like
Speaker 1: on purpose funny in a way that Eli is not,
Speaker 1: and I don't want that to to infect my goals.
Speaker 1: I love that man, is it good? Do you watch it?
Speaker 1: I don't watch it, but I've heard, like the things
Speaker 1: that I've heard make them both sound very smart about football,
Speaker 1: which also kind of interferes with the my preferred narrative
Speaker 1: around Eli. But yeah, well this is go for his agent, man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll do next. We'll go after his agent, Tom Condon,
Speaker 1: pitch him director. I was gonna say, we're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about like the news stories we could cover today, but
Speaker 1: I think we should just like strategize about this elish
Speaker 1: of all time. Yeah, because you know some people at
Speaker 1: ce A. You know straight, we are going to get
Speaker 1: to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
Speaker 1: a few of the stories we're talking about dumb spies.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about two dumb spies that just got caught.
Speaker 1: There is a long tradition of dumb spies that I
Speaker 1: would like to just take a quick look at. But
Speaker 1: spies in general are not what you see in movies,
Speaker 1: unless you're talking about like the movie spy with Melissa McCarthy.
Speaker 1: Like that that is more in line with like the
Speaker 1: the spy comedy seem to be more in line with
Speaker 1: like what actual how actual spies operate, or at least
Speaker 1: the ones we know about because they're bad and get
Speaker 1: caught drops in a peanut butter sandwich. Yeah, there's this
Speaker 1: John Lakar story I always talked about, like, you know,
Speaker 1: the great spy novelist who he wrote this like nonfiction
Speaker 1: article for The New Yorker about his time in m
Speaker 1: I five or whatever the am I is, that's the
Speaker 1: CIA for British people, and he talks about like this
Speaker 1: like hyper super secret mission he was on with this
Speaker 1: guy who's like doing dead drops, but like the guy
Speaker 1: was actually like doing dead drops with himself and had
Speaker 1: just like completely long Austin and was like just creating
Speaker 1: this whole thing, this whole like air of mystery because
Speaker 1: he was paranoid and also bored. And this was like
Speaker 1: at the height of the culd for in Berlin. Wow,
Speaker 1: So we'll talk about that. We'll talk about the dependency ratio.
Speaker 1: China's economy missed its mark this past quarter, and the
Speaker 1: New York Times is not talking about the dependency ratio,
Speaker 1: So I would like to bring that up. We're gonna
Speaker 1: ask the question what the fund is Jesus Ween, because
Speaker 1: that's coming up everyone's favorite holiday, Jesus. No, there was
Speaker 1: I saw it like last week where someone just took
Speaker 1: a picture of the back of a bus and it
Speaker 1: said jesus ween dot com And I was like what
Speaker 1: and I'm glad, Well, now I don't find out what
Speaker 1: jesus ween is so excited to learn. The full sign
Speaker 1: is should jesus ween replace Halloween Jesus dot com? This
Speaker 1: is a great check it out there. We will talk
Speaker 1: about the time travel lawyers who are populating social media
Speaker 1: there all over the place. They're so hot right now.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about that all that plenty more. But first, Daniel,
Speaker 1: we do like to ask our guess, what is something
Speaker 1: from your search history? Yes, most recently I searched how
Speaker 1: soon can I start packing before a move? And this
Speaker 1: this tells you a few major things about me. One
Speaker 1: most obviously, he tells you that I'm I'm moving in
Speaker 1: the future. It is at the time of recording, it's
Speaker 1: October eighteen. I'm not moving until December thirty one. It's
Speaker 1: it's very far out there, and so this also tells
Speaker 1: you I'm not planning on anything resembling like an in
Speaker 1: home social life for the next several months. I've written
Speaker 1: on my future like it's gonna be just boxes and
Speaker 1: nowhere to sit for a while. And most telling Lee,
Speaker 1: I think it's it reminds everyone that I'm even in
Speaker 1: my mid thirties, I'm still very focused on, like what
Speaker 1: is the normal way to go about doing things? I
Speaker 1: want to make sure even if I don't follow it,
Speaker 1: I want to be aware of what it is. So
Speaker 1: that's like Google is is my non judgmental friend, where
Speaker 1: I could just go, like, what's a normal way for
Speaker 1: a human to move? And then it tells me like, okay, good,
Speaker 1: it's good to know it's a Google suggests, by the way,
Speaker 1: two to three weeks before the move, which is not
Speaker 1: what I'm I'm insufficient Google now, Yeah, I'm getting Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm getting severe. Doesn't sleep the night before a flighty
Speaker 1: vibes from you, like just kind of pack some repacks.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's smart. It's better than the alternative, which I
Speaker 1: have engaged in many times, which is just kind of
Speaker 1: throwing everything into a garbage rack. Yeah. Yeah, and then
Speaker 1: throwing that in the back of the U haul. Yeah,
Speaker 1: those first moves in or at right after colleges, when
Speaker 1: you're like just packing up the construction bags, you're like boxes. No, man,
Speaker 1: I'll put all these books and pans in a garbage
Speaker 1: bag and throw them into trunk. Yeah, and the amount
Speaker 1: of things when I left l A for New York.
Speaker 1: It was a very quick move, and there are so
Speaker 1: many things that I'm like that I'll just go without
Speaker 1: a calendar and I throw it out, like things that
Speaker 1: I would sooner get rid of than like bother finding
Speaker 1: a new box for it. And then as soon as
Speaker 1: I am in my new place and I'm boiling water
Speaker 1: ship out of calendar. Yeah. Did you try the thing
Speaker 1: where you just like break the cap or the lid
Speaker 1: of the thing very slightly and then dump still dump
Speaker 1: path the pasta out that's the head. Yeah, cracking the lid,
Speaker 1: but it's completely insufficient. Team creeps out and burns the
Speaker 1: part of your hand and then you let go and
Speaker 1: it's on the sink, and like god, just the fucking failure. Fortunately,
Speaker 1: there are sweatshirts for that. And just today is we
Speaker 1: forgot to mention up top national Seafood BIS Day, just
Speaker 1: to let everybody, Oh, and that's what we're celebrating today.
Speaker 1: Is that October eighteenth or we're recording it then, but
Speaker 1: it's look a little peek behind the curtain. Sorry. As
Speaker 1: we celebrate this, it will be National Seafood BISC Day. Uh.
Speaker 1: And you did mention it was October? Is that? Is
Speaker 1: that a do you do you celebrate? Are you an
Speaker 1: observer of October? I don't really care for Halloween. It's
Speaker 1: not like a big holiday for me. But anytime someone
Speaker 1: says October very academically correcting them to October, it's very
Speaker 1: fun to me. I really enjoy that October. Wait is
Speaker 1: there something? Is that a real thing or that's just
Speaker 1: a colloquialism for just because it's spooky October we call
Speaker 1: it October or is there like an actual phenomenon of
Speaker 1: missing out? Not that I know. I think it's one
Speaker 1: of those things that was like October at not Not
Speaker 1: Scary Farm whatever, which they really funked up with the
Speaker 1: naming of that, because it just sounds like it's any
Speaker 1: other day at not s Very Farm, which is not scary, Yes,
Speaker 1: but it's a it sounds scary. Uh. What is something
Speaker 1: you think is over it, Daniel finishing books not just
Speaker 1: like brother. I there was a tweet going around a
Speaker 1: week or so ago about how it's rude to the
Speaker 1: author if you don't finish book. Did you guys cover
Speaker 1: this on the show? Already know just someone I don't
Speaker 1: know what their background is, but they're like the way
Speaker 1: that almost all discourse on Twitter is where it starts
Speaker 1: in the middle of a conversation you didn't know you
Speaker 1: were having, and they're already mad at you, so it's
Speaker 1: all caps. It's mad. It's disrespectful to the author to
Speaker 1: stop that book before you're done like that, the author
Speaker 1: doesn't care. And and like and I, as someone who
Speaker 1: used to finish every book that I started, like, had
Speaker 1: had personal rules about it, like once you're you're in it,
Speaker 1: you're in it. I've I've since abandoned that, and I'm
Speaker 1: much happier. I don't think there's any honor as a
Speaker 1: reader in finishing a book if you're not enjoying it.
Speaker 1: And as someone who's written books, I don't care. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you finish it. And also like I this,
Speaker 1: how if I presidents I wrote that book so you
Speaker 1: can read it what's taken a ship, and then you
Speaker 1: put it down and move on with your life in
Speaker 1: one sitting. Yes, Um, yeah, it's really life is too
Speaker 1: short to to like, Yeah, I find myself doing that
Speaker 1: with history books. Like when I buy like any kind
Speaker 1: of historical book, I usually like it's usually something I
Speaker 1: have some partial knowledge around, and then I'll get to
Speaker 1: the part I know mostly about and then I'm like,
Speaker 1: all right, I got the good part out of this, right,
Speaker 1: Like you're still waiting to figure out how World War
Speaker 1: two ends, right, yeah, yeah, but shut the funk up, dude.
Speaker 1: I was like, I bought this book on like William
Speaker 1: to comes to Sherman because I'm like really interested in
Speaker 1: him as a general and things like that and just
Speaker 1: kind of his whole outlook on the world and the
Speaker 1: Civil War and things like that. But I knew a
Speaker 1: lot of this stuff, like of the main battles, but
Speaker 1: there's a lot of information about him before that I
Speaker 1: wasn't really up on. And so like once I got
Speaker 1: through like the first half of the book and we
Speaker 1: were got kind of getting heavily into like the civil world,
Speaker 1: like all right, yeah, I need here, I got this
Speaker 1: that that name needs to come back. By the way,
Speaker 1: what do you think from the real world? Do you
Speaker 1: remember that guy? His name was Tech Comes, His name
Speaker 1: was to Come. I think he was named after Tecmesa.
Speaker 1: His name was the whole name was to Comes. I
Speaker 1: just won weed with him. What is something you think
Speaker 1: is underrated? Daniel routines, I'm a convert to a routine lifestyle.
Speaker 1: There's a trope in like heist movies that I used
Speaker 1: to think was made up, like like Ocean's leven and
Speaker 1: they would say Benedict leaves his office every day at
Speaker 1: eleven o five to get a coffee, which he sipped
Speaker 1: for three minutes, and then he walks across the street
Speaker 1: to this place for four minutes. Like, man, that's really
Speaker 1: fucking convenient for your heist that you're robbing from an
Speaker 1: alien And no one actually behaves that way. But sometime
Speaker 1: during the pandemic, that switched flipped in my brain and
Speaker 1: I'm such a routine person now and I just love it.
Speaker 1: It's very like my my life is not regimented to
Speaker 1: the minute or anything like that. But like I have
Speaker 1: a morning routine, I have a nighttime routine, I have
Speaker 1: a post work routine. I have a midday routine, and
Speaker 1: I love all of them. I love that kind of
Speaker 1: structure and like alarms go off on my phone when
Speaker 1: it's time for me to get up and walk my
Speaker 1: dog and when it's time for me to like do
Speaker 1: a little stretch, and alarm my phone goes into do
Speaker 1: not disturb mode at the same time every night, and
Speaker 1: that means I'm not allowed to look at my phone
Speaker 1: anymore because it's locked me out of it, and that
Speaker 1: starts my bedtime routine and I just love it. That sounds.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're you're adding yourself as someone who's incredibly
Speaker 1: easy to hoist at this point, but he cannot. He
Speaker 1: doesn't talk to nobody after a certain point, so right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's when. Yeah, I'm both scattered and probably less fulfilled
Speaker 1: and happy than you are. But nobody's getting one over
Speaker 1: on me because I'm I'm a fucking loose cannon out
Speaker 1: here in my daily routine. Man, Sometimes they'll just funk
Speaker 1: off in the middle of a recording and I gotta
Speaker 1: keep and then I guess it's like what, And I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. He's he can never get got because it's
Speaker 1: part of his genius. Yeah, the morning routine. Part. I'm
Speaker 1: the closest I've done or began to implement any rule
Speaker 1: is to like try and get to like that first
Speaker 1: forty minutes without looking at my phone in the morning,
Speaker 1: just to not set off like the hyper brain activity
Speaker 1: shit so early, because like I used to be able
Speaker 1: to like wake up and scroll twit or y'all, like
Speaker 1: just go straight into that. And you know, doing that
Speaker 1: has helped a lot actually, just to kind of maintain
Speaker 1: some semblance of humanity. Yeah, I've definitely wanted to. I've
Speaker 1: I've definitely seen the value in a routine, but it's
Speaker 1: I think it's it must be tougher, tougher if you
Speaker 1: have children. Yeah, the children blow up your routine. I
Speaker 1: have no excuse and I have no routines. So yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, well let's take a quick break. We'll come
Speaker 1: back and we'll talk about dumb spies and we're back
Speaker 1: and wait, so did America win World War Two? I'm
Speaker 1: gonna you know it, man. Yeah, actually we're gonna maybe
Speaker 1: talk about that, man, But first let's know. But I'm
Speaker 1: also have Japanese. Yeah, actually, don't tell me what happened. Yeah, boys, see,
Speaker 1: that's why I don't I didn't want any spoilers. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: so let's let's we'll talk about that in a moment. First,
Speaker 1: some of the remnants of of that, which is our
Speaker 1: dumb spy culture that is still lingering and took in
Speaker 1: one Jonathan and Diana Tobe, he's at two. Did I
Speaker 1: mispronounce it? No? I don't know. It's it's it's it's
Speaker 1: t o e b B. So like that's a that's
Speaker 1: like a loaded name. I could see me a Tobe
Speaker 1: Toby Tobe b with a with a double. I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's rarely how we pronounced two bes in a row,
Speaker 1: but anything possible. Funny. I think that's a funny bit
Speaker 1: a consonants that are doubled up being honest. Nothing alright? So, uh,
Speaker 1: he's a forty two year old Navy nuclear engineer. She's
Speaker 1: a forty five year old teacher. What's the Avril Levian song?
Speaker 1: Could anything be more? Something? Any more obvious? Any more obdeous? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So there we go. They look very normal. They look
Speaker 1: like what I would expect those descriptions to like create
Speaker 1: in my mind of the random generator of for you,
Speaker 1: two year old nuclear and nuclear engineer and forty five
Speaker 1: year old teacher from Annapolis would look like, but they
Speaker 1: got caught up in a spy thriller of their own making.
Speaker 1: Yeah wow, I think people heard that, like two Americans
Speaker 1: were caught trying to sell secrets to a foreign government,
Speaker 1: and that was as much as I knew until I
Speaker 1: read the article. And it's so much more sad than that,
Speaker 1: and like these people were like living in a fucking
Speaker 1: fantasy world. So they got arrested by the FBI because
Speaker 1: again they were selling nuclear technology to or attempting to
Speaker 1: to a foreign government. And their trial begins this week
Speaker 1: and they could potentially be facing life sentences for this.
Speaker 1: And the whole thing is their operation is like kind
Speaker 1: of confusing for a number of reasons, Like they didn't
Speaker 1: ask for a lot of money initially, like a hundred
Speaker 1: grand or something in crypto, and their motives aren't really known,
Speaker 1: and but they were like spectacularly amateur about the whole thing.
Speaker 1: Like the man Jonathan Toby or Toba Bay was clearly
Speaker 1: like had a penchant for tradecraft, like was really into
Speaker 1: this stuff. So first, this guy sent a letter to
Speaker 1: a foreign government and it's unnamed in the criminal complaint.
Speaker 1: It's just says it's they're referred to as country one.
Speaker 1: But most people are presuming it's an ally because we'll
Speaker 1: you'll you'll hear later on why it's probably an ally
Speaker 1: of the United States and possibly France, which will also
Speaker 1: get into because of this man's imagination. Um So, first
Speaker 1: he sent a letter to foreign government one saying like, hey,
Speaker 1: here's some like nuclear sub propulsion technology made like like
Speaker 1: some information on our propulsion systems. Make a little down
Speaker 1: payment and I will keep the real information flowing just
Speaker 1: so you know that I'm real with this stuff. Then
Speaker 1: this is where they sucked up, is he just sent
Speaker 1: this letter to presumably some foreign intelligence person that government
Speaker 1: just went to the FBI a few months later and
Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, one of your people is trying to
Speaker 1: sell us nuclear sub secrets, so I don't know if
Speaker 1: you want to take over this. They did, uh, special
Speaker 1: agent immediately began posing as the person they thought they
Speaker 1: were interacting with. And that's probably another reason why they
Speaker 1: presume it's an ally, because most people, like I don't
Speaker 1: think Russia would be like, hey, this they're trying to
Speaker 1: sell me some Russian sub secrets. They would probably be like,
Speaker 1: thank you for these subsecrets, let's keep this going or
Speaker 1: any any other adversarial nation. And then so this FBI
Speaker 1: agent begins posing, as you know, this person on the
Speaker 1: other side, and this is what this they described sort
Speaker 1: of what this The next few months worth, the next
Speaker 1: few months were like a chronicle of encrypted letters, dead
Speaker 1: drop locations, and cryptocurrency transfers, all rather expertly instigated by Toby,
Speaker 1: a self proclaimed amateur in this realm, would suggests that
Speaker 1: he picked up the lingo and tools of tradecraft from
Speaker 1: the world of cinema and publishing. In this late article,
Speaker 1: they go in to say that in the complaint that
Speaker 1: some of Toby's letters reprinted at embarrassing length in the
Speaker 1: complaint seemed to lift entire quotes from The Courier, the
Speaker 1: underrated movie about the old ag Pankovsky case. So he
Speaker 1: was just being like, here's that I'm talking like a
Speaker 1: spy to this actual spy of another nation. And yeah,
Speaker 1: they dropped off more than eleven thousand pages of like
Speaker 1: this confidential data and like one of the thumb drives
Speaker 1: in a peanut butter sandwich, and they got a hundred
Speaker 1: thousand in crypto in exchange. And I guess there was
Speaker 1: going to be more, but people like, that's kind of
Speaker 1: a low bar considering you're now looking at life in prison.
Speaker 1: So his payment was more getting to like use the
Speaker 1: lingo and put thumb drives and peanut butter sandwiches, which
Speaker 1: I would assume fucking ruined it. Like yeah, I don't know,
Speaker 1: probably Saran wrapped the jump drive, you know, and then
Speaker 1: you put then you smeared and piamon jack. That's why
Speaker 1: they pay you the delete. But a lot of people
Speaker 1: were saying, like, another reason they thought it was an
Speaker 1: ally because this guy told me was like I need
Speaker 1: you to prove to me that like you're on the up, Like, well,
Speaker 1: I will be in d C with my wife at
Speaker 1: your embassy or they said, at a building that you own,
Speaker 1: presumably an embassy or consulate, like give a signal so
Speaker 1: I know that like you are, like the government knows,
Speaker 1: and like you're trying to communicate with me. Apparently this
Speaker 1: guy got that signal when he went to see whatever
Speaker 1: it was. And this is the part where it gets
Speaker 1: really just kind of sad. This is just one of
Speaker 1: the letters that he wrote to this guy. Okay, says
Speaker 1: thank you for so again. This is their the transmission
Speaker 1: of information that's begun. Money has been exchanged, and like
Speaker 1: they see like more coming down the road. This is
Speaker 1: from Jonathan quote, thank you for your partnership as well,
Speaker 1: my friend. One day, when it is safe, perhaps two
Speaker 1: old friends will have a chance to stumble into each
Speaker 1: other at a cafe, share a bottle of wine, and
Speaker 1: laugh over stories of their shared exploits. A fine thought,
Speaker 1: but but I agree that our mutual need for security
Speaker 1: may make that impossible. Whether we meet up or no,
Speaker 1: I will always remember your bravery and serving your country
Speaker 1: and your commitment to helping me. Oh my god, what
Speaker 1: what a bummer? Yeah, Like you're just there and you're
Speaker 1: like hello, yeah, quick hat tip. There's Yeah. That is
Speaker 1: the one thing we know about this guy as he's
Speaker 1: seen dark Knight rises and doesn't realize he's pulling from
Speaker 1: that in that in that part probably or doesn't although
Speaker 1: that was needing it will realize that. Yeah. I love
Speaker 1: the FBI's decision to humiliate this person, because they could have,
Speaker 1: like at the get go. As soon as France was like,
Speaker 1: hey America, someone sent a letter that said, dear France,
Speaker 1: here's your we think you should we think you should go.
Speaker 1: Get him, Like the FBI could have just said, hey,
Speaker 1: we know this, stop it, but they're like no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: Let's see where he goes with this. And I love
Speaker 1: that petty decision. He's texting me, he's texting me come
Speaker 1: over come dude, Hey, get him to send a picture
Speaker 1: of himself doing some spice stuff. Show me you're dead
Speaker 1: drop op seck please. Okay, I've got this. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's the thing is they're charged with violating the Atomic
Speaker 1: Energy Act. Is like sort of what they're what these
Speaker 1: charges are stemming from. And it's not you've violated the
Speaker 1: second according language of the law when you've even attempted
Speaker 1: or conspired to transmit information. So I get yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: sure they just want to be like, Okay, how deep
Speaker 1: is this going? But I think maybe they're like, is
Speaker 1: this person for real? Because it's not a lot of money.
Speaker 1: This person is so naive and this is still going.
Speaker 1: But he just texting me ay a whole lot yeah
Speaker 1: to spy. He made a custom shirt that says Spy
Speaker 1: Bros for Life in one of my address so he
Speaker 1: could send me one. But the thing is that they
Speaker 1: the other reason why I think it's France some people
Speaker 1: are like, is it because like that cafe bottle of
Speaker 1: wine was like meant to evoke like some French like
Speaker 1: street cafe or something, but also because it has to
Speaker 1: do with nuclear submarines. It's possibly because if you remember
Speaker 1: last month, my Kron lost his ship over the US
Speaker 1: doing a deal with Australia for nuclear sub technology, and
Speaker 1: if it is France, they were like, bro, we could
Speaker 1: have got that shift for nothing and not said anything,
Speaker 1: and we told you guys, and then you fucking snaked
Speaker 1: us and then to another nuclear sub deal. What the
Speaker 1: fun was that? Which I have a feeling may have
Speaker 1: given like why that response was like that, But again
Speaker 1: it's all just very sloppy and Toboby's motives is it?
Speaker 1: Is it just corurrency at this point or like does
Speaker 1: he have ana against America as well? It's really hard
Speaker 1: to know at this point, it really is. It's it's
Speaker 1: very difficult to know. But I think that's like another
Speaker 1: question people are asking is like what is what could
Speaker 1: the damage actually be the US? Like they have two
Speaker 1: young kids and so like they go to jail for
Speaker 1: like life, like this is all kinds of bad, not
Speaker 1: to say, like think of the children, but like it's like,
Speaker 1: what what is this? Like what is I mean, it's
Speaker 1: not going to be that, Like are they going to
Speaker 1: go to the letter of the law like that and
Speaker 1: put these people away for life? Not? I don't know, Like, right,
Speaker 1: are we allowed to have like a sliding scale application
Speaker 1: of the law where it's like we know what, we
Speaker 1: know what they did, but they're too dumb to do it.
Speaker 1: They're like clearly harmless, I don't think. But then that's
Speaker 1: not a great precedent to set that. Yeah, we're already
Speaker 1: applying that to the insurrectionists now, and like, well they
Speaker 1: were so dumb honestly, Like there was no way they're
Speaker 1: gonna get away with it. So how's a little bit
Speaker 1: of probation for you? Yeah. Yeah. Back in our days
Speaker 1: at Cracked, we covered a bunch of like just inept
Speaker 1: spies to the point that it seemed like this was
Speaker 1: the rule rather than the exception. There's a guy at
Speaker 1: aldrich Ames who like kept getting in trouble with the
Speaker 1: CIA for getting drunk and fighting cops at bars, and
Speaker 1: then like he just decided to turn into a trader
Speaker 1: in and his tradecraft was he would drive up to
Speaker 1: the Soviet embassy with a box full of documents and
Speaker 1: just like bring them in and then walk out with
Speaker 1: a bag of money, and like it took them like
Speaker 1: eight years to catch him, and there's just so many
Speaker 1: of these. So he was he said he was a
Speaker 1: CIA agent or what was this guy's position, Yeah, he
Speaker 1: was a CIA. He was constantly getting in trouble for uh. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was frequently reprimanded for sleeping on the job at
Speaker 1: the CIA, which is a gig he almost didn't get
Speaker 1: because he kept fighting police officers. And then like I
Speaker 1: think I think actually slept with a This might be
Speaker 1: a different one, but what one of the ones from
Speaker 1: this was also constantly getting drunk and getting him into
Speaker 1: fights and was like sleeping with multiple secret agents from
Speaker 1: foreign countries. It's just constantly people fucking up, and then
Speaker 1: the CIA being like five years in being like I
Speaker 1: think we got the mall the guys carrying a bag
Speaker 1: of rubles and driving around like taking a fucking helicopter
Speaker 1: to the office. Oh, I don't know, it's it's it's
Speaker 1: hard to know really, like what these people thought they
Speaker 1: were going to get away with or how they thought
Speaker 1: it was going to make their lives better. Like the
Speaker 1: prosecutors seem to think like they just wanted like a
Speaker 1: nest egg to kind of just like guarantee like their
Speaker 1: next like financial phase of their life. Right Like, fuck, man,
Speaker 1: if if you like you gotta look, if you're gonna
Speaker 1: come to crimes like that, you gotta know what the
Speaker 1: fun your life is worth. It can't be no hundred
Speaker 1: k and doge coin like would be for the offensive
Speaker 1: if we're gonna go to prison for l Come on now,
Speaker 1: all right, let's let's talk really briefly about the dependency ratio,
Speaker 1: just because I think it continues to be one of
Speaker 1: the most underrated kind of forces or explanations in kind
Speaker 1: of macro economics in the modern world. There's a story
Speaker 1: in the New York Times about how China's economy has
Speaker 1: continued to slow, and it like focuses on steel mills
Speaker 1: facing power cuts and computer chip shortages and you know,
Speaker 1: troubled property companies. There's like a big real estate kind
Speaker 1: of meltdown happening in China, but it doesn't mention anywhere
Speaker 1: this thing that I always I come back to, like
Speaker 1: this is on par with the British cold gas study
Speaker 1: and Tom Hanks peeing in every movie is like a
Speaker 1: thing I I just bring up at every opportunity that
Speaker 1: I get. But yeah, and Havana syndrome as well. But
Speaker 1: it's basically like you put working age people on one
Speaker 1: side of a scale, you put people who are too
Speaker 1: young or too old to work on the other side.
Speaker 1: And the more that the working age people outweigh the
Speaker 1: other people, the dependence which is called what it's called
Speaker 1: the dependency ratio, the stronger the economy like tends to
Speaker 1: perform over over a long period of time. And if
Speaker 1: you like this basically explains the twentieth century, like the
Speaker 1: US is like unprecedented baby boom was working its way
Speaker 1: through working age. During Win America's like economy really took off,
Speaker 1: and now that they're all hitting retirement age, it's starting
Speaker 1: to slow down. And China like is a really interesting
Speaker 1: example of this because they did the one child experiment,
Speaker 1: Like their one child policy was basically a way to
Speaker 1: kind of force a really favorable dependency ratio by sort
Speaker 1: of artificially shrinking the number of dependents. And so they
Speaker 1: had this huge population of people who are going through
Speaker 1: working age and then much smaller dependence and can be
Speaker 1: seen as fueling their massive e can coomic growth. But
Speaker 1: now that big like chunk of working age people is
Speaker 1: hitting retirement. So it's like, as I'm trying to explain it,
Speaker 1: I'm starting to see why it's not raised that much
Speaker 1: because it's kind of boring. But I think it's also
Speaker 1: like it takes some of the agency and like heroism
Speaker 1: and like the sort of like deserving out of America's
Speaker 1: economic success, and particularly the economic success of the Baby Boomers.
Speaker 1: Like the idea that they're just like a lucky demographic
Speaker 1: cohort is probably like something that baby boomers are allergic to,
Speaker 1: and they're you know, still even though the medium population
Speaker 1: of America's thirty eight I think if you like look
Speaker 1: at the median population of powerful people in the country,
Speaker 1: it's probably squarely in the heart of like the baby
Speaker 1: Boomer set. And I just feel like that generation's entire
Speaker 1: worldview wants to believe that they are special and better
Speaker 1: than everyone then earned their financial success broadly, yeah, just
Speaker 1: broadly speaking, because we know we don't. I love when
Speaker 1: the boomers again comed into like I'm not like the
Speaker 1: other boomers are, like, I mean a terrible show, right,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean, and then I also think like
Speaker 1: just the one child policy is a very like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, is one of the strangest or like most
Speaker 1: kind of inexplicable policies. If you just totally take the
Speaker 1: dependency ratio out of the equation, it's just and and
Speaker 1: I feel like we never really think about like why
Speaker 1: they did that or how it relates to their financial success.
Speaker 1: It just means that. So what one detail that kind
Speaker 1: of jumped out at me other than like I think
Speaker 1: it like there's a relationship between like America's like white
Speaker 1: supremacy and their ability to just be like China doing
Speaker 1: the one child policy. That's weird. They're weird, just like
Speaker 1: not thinking about it any further. It also relates to
Speaker 1: immigration policy because US, like one of the main forces
Speaker 1: that is keeping the US median age like and dependency
Speaker 1: ratio in a good place is the you know, massive
Speaker 1: immigration or you know the urge for immigration that the
Speaker 1: GOP like wants to wants to fight against. And it
Speaker 1: just seems coincidental or not coincidental that the people who
Speaker 1: are like the most like baby boomer as the pop party,
Speaker 1: the GOP wants to like fight against immigration, and they're
Speaker 1: also the ones who would like most want to ignore
Speaker 1: the financial realities of like the dependency ratio being the
Speaker 1: reason that they have their success. But that's kind of
Speaker 1: one of the reasons that people think that the dependency
Speaker 1: ratio is going to hit China harder than the US
Speaker 1: is by like the US is population is supposed to
Speaker 1: you know, grow by quite a bit because of the
Speaker 1: dependency ratio, and China is supposed to shrink because of
Speaker 1: people are more likely to leave the country than want
Speaker 1: to come there. So that's that story. M hmm. And
Speaker 1: that's all I have to say about that. And one
Speaker 1: child policy base level, we agree is a bad idea, yes, okay, alright, yes, yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: because where you're like and there's one one child policy
Speaker 1: and then there was a long pause and then you
Speaker 1: landed on so strange. It's like, yeah, it's strange. Keep
Speaker 1: going though, Yeah, very quirky. Yeah they were, but I
Speaker 1: don't want to say authoritarian, right, uh, just just four
Speaker 1: things like what were they Yeah, yeah, they were really
Speaker 1: looking at that though. Huh give it up. No, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's I think it's funny too, because there's for all,
Speaker 1: gradation is such one of these issues in the country
Speaker 1: where there's there's it's like it's it's looked at is
Speaker 1: like it's it's the end of the country. But no
Speaker 1: one acknowledges that so many of the great things about
Speaker 1: about this place is that it's because of people coming
Speaker 1: here from different places, whether that's just the opportunity it
Speaker 1: provides or you know, cuisine. I think a lot of people,
Speaker 1: I think for a lot of people are like man
Speaker 1: fulk immigrants. Realized a lot of the food you're eating
Speaker 1: that you even think as American is because of this
Speaker 1: melting pot that the United States became. And then also
Speaker 1: on top of it, the everyone I think that's the
Speaker 1: other part they don't talk about is the financial aspect
Speaker 1: for people who are so focused on like the economy
Speaker 1: of it all, like if you were just actually playing
Speaker 1: with facts and figures, like no, okay, yeah this we
Speaker 1: can handle more people being here. But it's also this
Speaker 1: fear of a brown or not so alabashed or white
Speaker 1: America that fears a lot of it drives a lot
Speaker 1: of the fear around it. Yeah, absolutely, Yeah. And just
Speaker 1: in relation to World War two, like I think miles
Speaker 1: cover your ears. Yeah, that spoiler alert. The fact that
Speaker 1: the US had this massive population boom and generation, you know,
Speaker 1: the baby boom that drove their financial success. Well, and
Speaker 1: we were just like and we took credit for winning
Speaker 1: World War Two while Russia, who actually like you know,
Speaker 1: all of their working age people like died in World
Speaker 1: War Two while actually doing a lot of the you know,
Speaker 1: horrible work that was required to win. That is also
Speaker 1: a pretty big, you know reason that the US ended
Speaker 1: up winning the Cold War, or at least like outlasting
Speaker 1: the USS are. But again not not the sort of
Speaker 1: thing that people in the US want to acknowledge, especially
Speaker 1: in the mainstream media. Miles, you can start listening. I guess,
Speaker 1: all right, what happened. I'm just why see that movie
Speaker 1: Enemy at the Gates with Jude Law. I hope it
Speaker 1: doesn't spoil anything. I feel like it was only like recently,
Speaker 1: like in the last couple of years, or like someone
Speaker 1: on TV was like, no, we only won the war
Speaker 1: because of Russia, you know that, right, and people like
Speaker 1: exactly like if it was it was as if people
Speaker 1: like it was anathema that everyone's like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: what does this person say that is a historian that
Speaker 1: is acknowledging what happened on the Eastern Front? Okay, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's it's still built. It's part of
Speaker 1: our idea that yeah, we dropped bomb, people gave up,
Speaker 1: we beat Hitler good night. Yeah h Yeah. It's crazy
Speaker 1: that all those boomers helped Russia win the war. Russia
Speaker 1: never would have done it if the Boomers hadn't just
Speaker 1: told them, go ahead and do it, please, right, hit
Speaker 1: after hit from that generation. All right, let's take a
Speaker 1: quick break and we'll be right back to talk about
Speaker 1: Jesus Ween. And we're back. And so a photo of
Speaker 1: a bus advertisement in Toronto was circulating on Twitter a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, promoting the website Jesus we and
Speaker 1: dot com. That's the only time I'm gonna attempt that joke,
Speaker 1: because I can't. I can't think of what has two
Speaker 1: letters unless it's directly in front. But yeah, like we said,
Speaker 1: of top said, should Jesus Ween replace Halloween? So a
Speaker 1: group of Christian kind of extremists, by some measures, are
Speaker 1: trying to co opt Halloween by turning it into Jesus Ween,
Speaker 1: advertising about it on city buses. They've been doing this
Speaker 1: for the past ten years. It began with a pastor
Speaker 1: in Canada who had the brilliant idea that Christians should
Speaker 1: hand out bibles instead of candy on Halloween, you know,
Speaker 1: because what better way to indoctrinate the youth then by
Speaker 1: stoking the rage every child feels when they get anything
Speaker 1: besides candy on Halloween, like colonizer Christmas, like handing up
Speaker 1: bibles to people who don't want them. What is that?
Speaker 1: We had a house every year that would give out stamps,
Speaker 1: and we had a house every year that would give
Speaker 1: out a roll of pennies. And I tell you, the
Speaker 1: level of fury that eight year olds would get after
Speaker 1: being handed money was very intense, Like I don't care
Speaker 1: that this is currency. I'm here for candy. That's what
Speaker 1: the days about. So if these guys turned around and
Speaker 1: gave you a book, that's that's You're gonna have a
Speaker 1: ride on your hands. Yeah. Like glow sticks even felt
Speaker 1: like a like a funk you you guys got glow sticks.
Speaker 1: I remember one time someone gave out glow sticks instead
Speaker 1: of candy. That is definitely for the younger demographic because
Speaker 1: kids are minds are fucking melted by glow sticks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then you, like you, you keep them in the
Speaker 1: freezer because I remember, like an adult was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I keep them in the freezer. They last longer. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, do they they don't some stupid weird logic.
Speaker 1: An adult presented to me as a child also, good
Speaker 1: for the glow sticks. I don't think my interest in
Speaker 1: glowsticks is gonna last very long. I feel like it
Speaker 1: begins and ends with look at this thing glowing. All right,
Speaker 1: there you go on to another thing from the lights off,
Speaker 1: from the lightsop. Look look, look, look, look it's trailing.
Speaker 1: So one of the Jesus Win websites has a promotional
Speaker 1: image which features a grown woman proudly holding a Bible
Speaker 1: and a small child who is not in a costume,
Speaker 1: being handed the earth by a smile couple. And they're
Speaker 1: a white void of nothingness, and so apparently this is
Speaker 1: appropriate because on Jesus when you're not supposed to wear
Speaker 1: a costume but rather just a plain white top to
Speaker 1: symbolize righteousness and the love of God to all mankind,
Speaker 1: which is just kind of objectively less fun than dressing
Speaker 1: like Batman, and less unless you think of, like, you know,
Speaker 1: Christ's love also has a lot of superpowers too, if
Speaker 1: you think about it in a lot of ways. The
Speaker 1: original Superman. Yeah, exactly, here we go down, let's start
Speaker 1: our youth church. I mean, I am trying to split
Speaker 1: the difference this year and dressing my kids up as
Speaker 1: a zombie. But the zombie is very clearly the risen
Speaker 1: Christ armed. But the Jesus Wing website covers well what
Speaker 1: one thing they say on there on their website is
Speaker 1: that every Christians expected to wear a white tops symbolized righteousness.
Speaker 1: Like we just mentioned, the money normally used to buy
Speaker 1: costumes can be given to ministries that print Christian books
Speaker 1: to help the unsaved. So it's part of that whole
Speaker 1: like saved and then you're good and can do it
Speaker 1: whatever the funk you want, or unsaved and you burn
Speaker 1: in the eternal pits of hell. But then they go
Speaker 1: on to say or give such funds to Jesus Ween
Speaker 1: or food banks to help the poor is thrown and
Speaker 1: is the third option behind giving it to Jesus Ween. Yikes,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. So what are they going to do with
Speaker 1: the money, Just keep keep keep preaching the gospel of
Speaker 1: a terrible like holiday, no one on it. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think you just gotta drive that money right back into
Speaker 1: more bus ads. Said's more photoshop work of a couple
Speaker 1: handed smashed together stock images. Are these the same people
Speaker 1: that do like the religious scary haunted houses? Like it
Speaker 1: feels like, isn't that Like it feels like a natural
Speaker 1: offshoot of those people who have like those like Christian
Speaker 1: haunted houses. I think it's probably like driven by the
Speaker 1: same sort of forces, but it doesn't appear to be
Speaker 1: quite related. But yeah, just Christianity coming up against the
Speaker 1: coolest holiday of all and just like trying to figure
Speaker 1: out a way to work work their way into it.
Speaker 1: I get it as a Christian, I understand Halloween is
Speaker 1: when Jesus Christ slew Dracula, and a lot of people
Speaker 1: forget that, and it's it's it's a bummer to see
Speaker 1: how commercialized it's gotten and how hardly anyone talks about
Speaker 1: thank you, fatal fight on top of Mount Sinai. But
Speaker 1: you know, it's the hollidaysn't belong to you anymore. You
Speaker 1: just have to you have to deal that. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: is very frustrating. It was actually called Mount Cyanide, but
Speaker 1: it was spooky for the original authors of the Bible.
Speaker 1: There you go. The website also covers what you're supposed
Speaker 1: to do when like you give a kid a Bible
Speaker 1: and they try to fight you. Apparently you're supposed to
Speaker 1: yell Jesus loves you at the children without getting in
Speaker 1: to quote any argument of some sort. I mean, how
Speaker 1: do you even play that out? What is this lady
Speaker 1: of fucking Bible Jesus and there or there or in
Speaker 1: their mind they go, can you say that again? Jesus
Speaker 1: loves me? Pathetic? Actually like myself. That's that's definitely the
Speaker 1: version that they have in mind. Like I I maybe
Speaker 1: that's what they could put their Jesus Wen budget into,
Speaker 1: is like some dramatic short films showing like the various
Speaker 1: ways to like some training films for getting at Bibles
Speaker 1: on Jesus Ween. Yeah, I like that they're anticipating, like,
Speaker 1: so what should I do if the inevitable thing happened? Right? Right?
Speaker 1: It's like the equivalent of like what oh Tobebe was
Speaker 1: reading for his spy books, Just like, clearly you don't
Speaker 1: follow this advice, but when you are caught by the FBI,
Speaker 1: this is what you're gonna say, Like yikes. So it
Speaker 1: doesn't seem like Jesus Ween really caught on the started
Speaker 1: ten years ago, ten years ago cats. Yeah, it's been
Speaker 1: going on. They've called it the most uh, I think,
Speaker 1: the most effective Christian outreach day, but that is certainly
Speaker 1: a self reported statistic that is based on absolutely no metrics.
Speaker 1: But there's there's some advertisements for Jesus Wien parties this
Speaker 1: year and they show kids wearing generic stock photos Halloween costumes.
Speaker 1: So in particular, a young man wearing a m superhero costume,
Speaker 1: just completely generic thing that your parents would try to
Speaker 1: give you, like if you if you have to be
Speaker 1: a superhero, and they wanted to disappoint you as much
Speaker 1: as possible. The M is for Moses. The thought on
Speaker 1: the end looks vaguely like the candy they cut it together.
Speaker 1: First they got him a costume that was the yellow
Speaker 1: m M. And then he's like, I want to be
Speaker 1: a superhero, and they're like, ship, You're put these bangles
Speaker 1: on it made of blue painters tape, your costume. You're
Speaker 1: gonna look great. And this ad for this Jesus Ween
Speaker 1: party that has the young young Moses superhero boy, and
Speaker 1: I like in the corner says a lot of games,
Speaker 1: free gifts, candles, come on, but oh I know what
Speaker 1: it is. I mean it probably should be. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think it's candles. I mean because it's Jesus ween man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and there's no like seemed to be anti Yeah damn.
Speaker 1: All right, well they got me there free food, gifts
Speaker 1: and candy. So then these kids, kids in particular, also
Speaker 1: needs an f a Q for like what happens when
Speaker 1: the kids asked me what my costume is? Say, Jesus
Speaker 1: loves you? All right, Okay, I didn't. I tried that.
Speaker 1: Now they're beating me and laughing at me. Right, should
Speaker 1: just louder Jesus when your body ascends to heaven, that
Speaker 1: you will be seated at his right hand and they
Speaker 1: will be cast to the demonic hell escape that is Satan. Okay, Okay, Mom,
Speaker 1: I tried that. They're unmoved. Wait, mom, I'm dead, Mom, Mom, Mom.
Speaker 1: The the ad in question. I don't want to make
Speaker 1: this whole story about this ad, but it is truly
Speaker 1: something to behold. It says celebrate life in Ransom note funds,
Speaker 1: which is interesting gives it like kind of an unnerving
Speaker 1: and then it also the website states that this holiday
Speaker 1: exists because Christian days of hiding are over. They're going
Speaker 1: to take a stand for Jesus, which is one of
Speaker 1: my favorite trends in Christianity to pretend like they are
Speaker 1: a persecutive minority. Yeah, no one's ever heard of it.
Speaker 1: No one ever on earth has ever heard of that
Speaker 1: plus sign that has coming to their mindscapes for many,
Speaker 1: many a century. Yeah, but that's also part of like
Speaker 1: the thing, you know, like you gotta give. It's like
Speaker 1: the same thing with evangelical conservatives too. It's like the
Speaker 1: same very much like you know, silent majority type thing
Speaker 1: of like you gotta get out there, let him know
Speaker 1: we're here and we're not backing down. And also loves them,
Speaker 1: but you know, you know, Jesus lets you out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when when rushing the Capitol Building d C, just telling
Speaker 1: Jesus loves you and they will direct you straight to
Speaker 1: the Senate Chamber. Yeah. Reminds me of bless your Heart,
Speaker 1: which is the Southern person way of saying like, wow,
Speaker 1: you're fucked. You are alright. Let's talk about the time
Speaker 1: travelers that have been discovered on social media, because there
Speaker 1: there's a young man named Javier who is here from
Speaker 1: the year I don't I don't know. If they say okay,
Speaker 1: by then humanity will have gone extinct. And the proof
Speaker 1: for this that has gotten like millions and millions of
Speaker 1: views on TikTok is a video of an empty playground.
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, I brought this back from the future.
Speaker 1: You all like, there's like playgrounds are literally empty. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the power is still on though the WiFi works. The
Speaker 1: powers on playgrounds are empty. I mean, this is this
Speaker 1: is the hell on earth that we're experiencing. In seven
Speaker 1: very okay little bars. You could never find an empty
Speaker 1: playground one. We don't there there are too many kids, yeah, everywhere.
Speaker 1: Even before that, everyone was outside everywhere all the time,
Speaker 1: constantly playing on has to be real, Yeah, I that
Speaker 1: one of my biggest frustrations, because I talked about my routines,
Speaker 1: is finding my afternoon playground time completely crowded, overwhelmed with
Speaker 1: damn kids playground time. Dad's like, hey man, can my
Speaker 1: kid have some time on the swing, And I'm like,
Speaker 1: I've been here since am finders keepers. Yeah, there's all
Speaker 1: sorts of This has been a long trend on social
Speaker 1: media since way back in the nineties. There was a
Speaker 1: guy named John Something who came through John T Tour
Speaker 1: who claimed that he was from the year four was
Speaker 1: back to grab a seventies IBM computer. And the reason
Speaker 1: he needed it is because in the year four they
Speaker 1: were still dealing with the fallout following the Y two
Speaker 1: K disaster. I mean, you can trust any guy who
Speaker 1: like they Their first appearance claiming to be a time
Speaker 1: travel is on Art Bell's Coast to Coast. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: the of course you're a time traveler. If you're not,
Speaker 1: something's wrong because Art Bell only finds the just the
Speaker 1: most fantastic people, like the people who go to the
Speaker 1: you know, Reptilian underworld and fought their leader and won
Speaker 1: and came back to tell Art Bell that. He's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I beat him, and I gotta go back down there.
Speaker 1: And he's like, huh, okay, go on, sounds good so far. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then there was a YouTube trend in which young
Speaker 1: white guys basically confessed that their time travelers from the future.
Speaker 1: Usually their faces are alert, voices distorted, and one of
Speaker 1: the most popular was a British guy named Michael Phillips,
Speaker 1: who claimed that he knew tetor who, by the way,
Speaker 1: according to this guy, did nine eleven and I just
Speaker 1: want to read uh wait he Phillips just says that
Speaker 1: Tetour did nine eleven. Yes, and I just want to
Speaker 1: read from a quote from him, it was decided that
Speaker 1: America needed a single unifying event to bring the country
Speaker 1: together and to revert a civil war I think maybe
Speaker 1: maybe prevent and that event was nine eleven. So that's
Speaker 1: what happened there, like a true historical person from So
Speaker 1: that's what happened there. In reference to nine alize my
Speaker 1: favorite on the internet cause anyone was wondering what happened there? Yeah,
Speaker 1: like it sounds like a like like a drunk dude
Speaker 1: lying at a bar about it and like, oh what
Speaker 1: about nine eleven? He's like, yeah, well we just needed
Speaker 1: as symbol, you need to find the event to unite
Speaker 1: country and or revert to civil war. So that's what
Speaker 1: happened there there. Taste close down that one. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: what else you want to know about? Yeah? I love this.
Speaker 1: I want this version of time travelers to be true.
Speaker 1: I want time travelers to all be dirt bags and
Speaker 1: to come back in time and be like I know
Speaker 1: that guy he did nine eleven, that guy. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: feels like a Rick and Morty like yeah, like a
Speaker 1: like story something like this, not trying time travelers they're
Speaker 1: like hate each other. They're not trying to prevent anything
Speaker 1: or share knowledge. They're like, he stop listening to that guy.
Speaker 1: He did fucking Katrina? Right? Oh you wish you know,
Speaker 1: we're not gonna tell you an you look, let's. Their
Speaker 1: stories usually fall apart any time, as as indicated by
Speaker 1: the still dealing with the fall up from why the
Speaker 1: Y two kid Disaster? Their their stories usually fall apart
Speaker 1: the second they try to make a prediction of any sort.
Speaker 1: Can dude, can we just play? I just want to
Speaker 1: play the Michael Phillips his thing, his like famous viral
Speaker 1: video where he he reveals the World War three details?
Speaker 1: Are you talking about time traveler from SEI reveals World
Speaker 1: War Three? Of course? Boy, Michael Phillips, Dude, million views,
Speaker 1: Just again, listen to this and tell me if I
Speaker 1: feel like, at a very specific point, you know that
Speaker 1: this doesn't make sense because he's like, first of all,
Speaker 1: he's like acting like it's a TV movie, but just
Speaker 1: how serious he is about everything in his background and
Speaker 1: understanding that how he became a time traveler. Okay, And
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go into this with an open mind and
Speaker 1: an open heart, ready to believe him. Okay, good, that's all.
Speaker 1: We want to be weird, and I also want to believe.
Speaker 1: There you go by John and then offer Christians. Yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: we um carry out a number of issues being in country.
Speaker 1: So I'm not allowed to name because sunny officials. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is I have a big problem with a time
Speaker 1: traveler who who won't violate his n d A from
Speaker 1: the future. I tell you where we were operated, but
Speaker 1: I can't because I've signed the Official Secrecy Act. But
Speaker 1: I've also traveled. But I'm also gonna explain how I
Speaker 1: time traveled, which wasn't an NDA I had to sign.
Speaker 1: They said, there are massive fucking loopholes in this NA.
Speaker 1: You let just tell you everything except this one detail.
Speaker 1: It's weird. They got me there, and I don't. I don't.
Speaker 1: They will sue you. I don't want to go to
Speaker 1: court unless you know a barrister that's gonna represent me.
Speaker 1: You've seen Judge Dredd. You know how future courts are.
Speaker 1: But I'm just like, I just love that this whole
Speaker 1: thing is you have all this info, but an nd
Speaker 1: A thwarted you is just so funny. And then that's
Speaker 1: in the first twenty seconds, and I had to stop
Speaker 1: I was like fantastic. So it turns out most of
Speaker 1: these videos come from a single channel called This is
Speaker 1: the Web. Sleuths have figured this out by just clicking
Speaker 1: on the channel that uploaded these. It's called apex TV,
Speaker 1: and one of their biggest time travel success stories was
Speaker 1: a guy named Noah who claimed he was from the
Speaker 1: year twenty thirty and he had proof like a what
Speaker 1: what he claimed was a history book page from the
Speaker 1: year that is clearly just a printer like something that
Speaker 1: he printed out. It doesn't even look like a book
Speaker 1: from a page. It looks like a you know, eight
Speaker 1: and a half by eleven. It was ripped in half. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was ripped in half and then didn't even like
Speaker 1: burn the edges or anything. But he just crumpled it
Speaker 1: up and then uncrumpled up. Yeah. But that, as we
Speaker 1: now know, that is how our history books look these days,
Speaker 1: and the entries just two years. Yeah, yeah, that's how
Speaker 1: also how history books work now and it includes uh
Speaker 1: so it's like bullet pointed and the encyclopedias or maybe
Speaker 1: is it double space. I can't tell because they have
Speaker 1: like fucking quadruple space. I didn't read the book. I
Speaker 1: need to get to a certain page count, and I
Speaker 1: don't care if they ding me on the font size
Speaker 1: or spacing when I turn it in type in right.
Speaker 1: It's impressively kind of shabby, and it includes from the
Speaker 1: year things we all remember, such as our you know,
Speaker 1: discovery and friendship with aliens and robotic eyes. We all
Speaker 1: got robot eyes. Now, it's just offensive to people who like, look,
Speaker 1: I I love a quirky story, like, but like make
Speaker 1: it fucking good, you know, like like, oh, that's dope,
Speaker 1: Like look at that. That's like they really fake that
Speaker 1: encyclopedia page. The fact that this guy is holding it up.
Speaker 1: It's like his idea of an encyclopedia is a fucking
Speaker 1: yearbook where it's a hyphenated two year thing, like like
Speaker 1: it's an NFL season, like and this is what happened
Speaker 1: in this one, And then you just have these bullet
Speaker 1: points that says, in the future, aliens are also found.
Speaker 1: This is from the thing he is. They crashed all
Speaker 1: over the world and we uncover them and we become
Speaker 1: peaceful with aliens, like okay, very academic. April, the first
Speaker 1: commercial robotic I was released, allowing blind people to see
Speaker 1: oh no names, so details and COVID's not in there either.
Speaker 1: He also kind of made a mistake with the tensing there,
Speaker 1: since the t he wrote that in the future tense
Speaker 1: in the future aliens are found, uncovered them and become
Speaker 1: teaceful with aliens. Come on, come on, come on, man,
Speaker 1: what is this? Well, you're breaking my balls here, I'm
Speaker 1: a time traveler man. But then so somebody did even
Speaker 1: deeper internet sleuthing than just clicking on the channel name
Speaker 1: and found out who this dude was and you know,
Speaker 1: explained that he was just a teenager. And that video
Speaker 1: where they revealed like who the person is and all
Speaker 1: that ship it has five thousand views. And so then
Speaker 1: he started doing videos where he like kind of admitted
Speaker 1: to it. And then apex TV put out there like
Speaker 1: competing narrative where they're like, not like as a fraud.
Speaker 1: We got this other guy who we had faked the story,
Speaker 1: but he was fooling us. So but apparently apex TV
Speaker 1: not the most up and up YouTube channel. They started
Speaker 1: They got him to start doing the videos for them
Speaker 1: when he was fourteen by giving him twenty dollars and
Speaker 1: asking him to make the video by himself, which is
Speaker 1: you know, exactly what they look like. Hey, but you
Speaker 1: know what is consistent with time travel? Though they tried
Speaker 1: to get him and his family to sign an NDA
Speaker 1: when they did it. That's how you know it's time travels.
Speaker 1: There's always nd as with time travel. Yeah, I like that,
Speaker 1: he explains in one of the videos. The reason he
Speaker 1: looks so young is because he takes futuristic anti aging pills,
Speaker 1: which I'm pretty sure I tried when I was fifteen
Speaker 1: trying to buy beer. I was like, man, I know,
Speaker 1: I know, I get it, but I'm all right, I do.
Speaker 1: I I love the fantasy of like people in the
Speaker 1: future still describing things. You want, these futuristics, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: put them in my future wallet. Thank you. I love that,
Speaker 1: I'm sure on my futuristic smartphone, that's what I wish.
Speaker 1: I was still blown away by all the technology that
Speaker 1: was invented fifteen years ago. It's the way that you
Speaker 1: and I walk around and we're like, man, it sucks
Speaker 1: wearing these old timey clothes. I'm here in the past.
Speaker 1: Such such a bimder that's what we call bummer in
Speaker 1: the future. It's all kinds of new ways I'm talking
Speaker 1: out there. But yeah, I love my futuristic Apple iPhone
Speaker 1: a Levin Pro Max from the Actually it was actually
Speaker 1: the best phone, so we just kept using it. That's
Speaker 1: sort of the thing. So I wouldn't buy one after
Speaker 1: this is what I was saying. But these stories have
Speaker 1: been like picked up on the Daily Mail and other faces,
Speaker 1: you know, one when you're out there looking for news
Speaker 1: on the Sun or the mirror. M yeah, the Mail though,
Speaker 1: I love yeah, and the Sun. I mean that's where
Speaker 1: we got our our great coverage of the lady who
Speaker 1: married the pirate ghost that she was married to and
Speaker 1: then had a divorce. So yeah. And nudity, just what
Speaker 1: one of the things that will never not surprise me
Speaker 1: when you're in another country in the newspapers have just
Speaker 1: topless women on the cover for for for what, for
Speaker 1: the part of the story or no, no, no, just
Speaker 1: because it sells papers. It's pretty pretty amazing. It's just
Speaker 1: the headline. It's like, hey, pretty nice right, a nice
Speaker 1: tras this paper has got it all. Daniel as always
Speaker 1: such a pleasure having you, man, Where can people find you?
Speaker 1: Follow you? Here? You all that good stuff? You can
Speaker 1: find me on Twitter at dalb Underscore I n C.
Speaker 1: You can listen to the World's Worst podcast that I
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Speaker 1: has a really it's it's such a bummer to end
Speaker 1: on us and see your note, but like, be safebout
Speaker 1: this Jesus ween. Yeah, be really careful, look out for
Speaker 1: your brothers and sisters. Yes, and you know, we we
Speaker 1: need to acknowledge the danger that is October, like people.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's too much for people. So just yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: and I have to admit of my ignorance of Jesus. Mean,
Speaker 1: I thought, is the thing you try and look at
Speaker 1: when you look under like a big giant crucifix in
Speaker 1: a Catholic church and you're trying to see up the
Speaker 1: cloth white cloth, differ, totally different thing. We called it
Speaker 1: something else in my high school. Yeah, and Daniel, is
Speaker 1: there a tweet or some of the work of social
Speaker 1: media you've been enjoying, Yeah, there's a tweet. It's the
Speaker 1: dumbest thing in the world. It's um. Someone on Twitter
Speaker 1: with the name miss at black ginger O asked why
Speaker 1: was official Cisco singing so damn hard about a thong?
Speaker 1: Question mark? Question mark, question mark, and he quote tweeted it.
Speaker 1: Cisco quote tweeted it and responded because I wanted to
Speaker 1: see it. I just love it, That's all he was asking. Yeah,
Speaker 1: simple request, Miles, Where can people find you? What is
Speaker 1: the tweet you've been enjoying? You can find me Twitter
Speaker 1: and Instagram at Miles of Gray. Also the other show
Speaker 1: for twenty day Fiance, what's Sophia Alexander? We would talk
Speaker 1: ninety day Fiance. Let's see a tweet I like, I
Speaker 1: wish I had a witty one, but it was just
Speaker 1: this video I saw that blew my mind. That Dan
Speaker 1: to me. D H t O O m E Y
Speaker 1: tweeted this video of the balloon World Cup and I
Speaker 1: don't know if you've seen this. Hold I'm gonna share
Speaker 1: my screen really quick. It's mind blowing. It's literally that
Speaker 1: game where you try and just keep an inflated balloon up.
Speaker 1: But they have all this furniture in like a room
Speaker 1: with glass walls, and these two competitors just like keep
Speaker 1: batting it up and trying to get the other person
Speaker 1: to like let it hit the floor before they can
Speaker 1: keep it up in the air. This is as game.
Speaker 1: This is fucking and I was just like, this is amazing,
Speaker 1: and I'm just I love just seeing ship, like you know,
Speaker 1: it's the same thing like floor's lava, but a game show.
Speaker 1: Now we're doing the fucking keep the balloon up, but
Speaker 1: with like the highest stakes possible and there's a fucking
Speaker 1: World Cup. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They can't touch the ground.
Speaker 1: You can't just make it down like you gotta at
Speaker 1: least keep it in play upward. Oh he just dug
Speaker 1: it out. This guy's digging an he's coming. He's got
Speaker 1: what's gonna play with this one? I would have gone
Speaker 1: the other way, maybe the other direction look out. So
Speaker 1: I know that was just very difficult to hear someone
Speaker 1: just describe a video to you on a podcast, but
Speaker 1: just go to one of our at twitters because it
Speaker 1: I'm like, god, why I might get in shape to
Speaker 1: try and play this, because I'll fucking land on the
Speaker 1: line for something like this. You can find me on
Speaker 1: Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien. Some tweets I've been enjoying.
Speaker 1: Colin Crawford tweeted, if I die while being eaten by
Speaker 1: a shark, I hope I have the presence of mind
Speaker 1: to remember it'd be funny to yell this sucks. One
Speaker 1: of the last funny people on Twitter, so consistently good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Nick at tsar Zick. Nick tweeted Liam Neeson and taking
Speaker 1: Boys just circling back about my daughter. Uh, both winners
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Speaker 1: feels like a retro version, like it's Yeah, I don't
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