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Speaker 1: Weekly Zeitgeist. Uh. These are some of our favorite segments
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Speaker 1: the Weekly Zeitgeist. Please welcome the hilarious and talented Danny Polumbo.
Speaker 1: That's some fun with it. It's me Danny Polumbo a K.
Speaker 1: A Pecorino Marino, a K. Tony Rickett TONI here is
Speaker 1: I got pastises. I know those are great, man, Let
Speaker 1: them know. What do you this one for far Fall?
Speaker 1: Well we can name another one. Yeah, bow tie pasta?
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, right, anyway, listen new Man, that
Speaker 1: man just chilling, just doing all the call the credits
Speaker 1: that y'all mentioned. That's the first time somebody mentioned every
Speaker 1: single thing I've done before. That was it. I was like,
Speaker 1: I was impressed by all of them. I don't normally
Speaker 1: do the whole list, but those are all dope. Well
Speaker 1: I needed it because I don't have the one knockout.
Speaker 1: That's like you've seen him on Conan, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, All of those to come together to make
Speaker 1: a mighty fist Daniel I knockout blow, yeah, if you will,
Speaker 1: A check swing that gets called strike. Yeah. I just
Speaker 1: I feel for the Giants fans. It was like a
Speaker 1: magical season. They were the it came out of nowhere
Speaker 1: to have the best record in baseball. And then yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I was during the game. I was turning
Speaker 1: to my dad is in town, so it was fun
Speaker 1: watching watching baseball with the old man, and I just
Speaker 1: kept turning to him, being like, you believe we're getting
Speaker 1: the Dodgers are getting some calls here, and then they
Speaker 1: got the ultimate call that that put them on through
Speaker 1: to the next round and a check swing that wasn't
Speaker 1: a they called it. Yeah. I felt for everyone, even
Speaker 1: like when whether we were at bad or the Giants
Speaker 1: were at bat, You're like, fun, dude, every single throws
Speaker 1: like mattering right now and like a fucking like a
Speaker 1: strike three called. Just was just like felt like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, how are you going to come back from everything?
Speaker 1: The stakes? But that's what I love about this time
Speaker 1: of year in baseball, that the stakes are at their highest.
Speaker 1: Mostly I felt for forty Yeah you mean Corey Booker,
Speaker 1: what is something from your search history? Yes, most recently
Speaker 1: I searched how soon can I start packing before a move?
Speaker 1: And this this tells you a few major things about me. One,
Speaker 1: most obviously, he tells you that I'm I'm moving in
Speaker 1: the future. It is at the time of recording, it's
Speaker 1: October eighteen. I'm not moving until December thirty one. It's
Speaker 1: it's very far out there. And so this also tells
Speaker 1: you I'm not planning on anything resembling like an in
Speaker 1: home social life for the next several months. I've written
Speaker 1: on my future like it's gonna be just boxes and
Speaker 1: nowhere to sit for a while. And most tellingly, I
Speaker 1: think it's it reminds everyone that I'm even in my
Speaker 1: mid thirties, I'm still very focused on, like what is
Speaker 1: the normal way to go about doing things? I want
Speaker 1: to make sure, even if I don't follow it, I
Speaker 1: want to be aware of what it is. So that's
Speaker 1: like Google is is my non judgmental friend, where I
Speaker 1: could just go like, what's a normal way for a
Speaker 1: human to move? And then it tells me like, okay, good,
Speaker 1: it's good to know. It's a Google suggests, by the way,
Speaker 1: two to three weeks before the move, which is not
Speaker 1: what I'm I'm in sufficient Google now, Yeah, I'm getting Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm getting severe. Doesn't sleep the night before a flighty
Speaker 1: vibes from you, like just kind of pack some repacks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's smart. It's better than the alternative which I have
Speaker 1: engaged in many times, which is just kind of throwing
Speaker 1: everything into a garbage back. Yeah. Yeah, and then throw
Speaker 1: that in the back of the U haul. Yeah. Those
Speaker 1: first moves in or right after college is when you're
Speaker 1: like just packing up the construction bags. You're like boxes. No, man,
Speaker 1: I'll put all these books and pans in a garbage
Speaker 1: bag and throw them into trunk. Yeah, and the amount
Speaker 1: of things when I left l A for New York,
Speaker 1: it was a very quick move, and there are so
Speaker 1: many things that I'm like, then I'll just go without
Speaker 1: a calendar and I throw it out, like things that
Speaker 1: I would sooner get rid of than like bother finding
Speaker 1: a new box for it. And then as soon as
Speaker 1: I am in my new place and I'm boiling water,
Speaker 1: ship out a calendar. Yeah. Did you try the thing
Speaker 1: where you just like break the cap or the lid
Speaker 1: of the thing very slightly and then dump still dump
Speaker 1: half the pasta out. That's the head. Yeah, cracking the lid,
Speaker 1: but it's completely insufficient. Team creeps out and burns the
Speaker 1: part of your hand and then you let go and
Speaker 1: it's on the sink, and like god, just the fucking failure.
Speaker 1: Fortunately there are sweatshirts for that. Just today is we
Speaker 1: forgot to mention up top National Seafood bisk Day, just
Speaker 1: to let everybody. Oh, and that's what we're celebrating today.
Speaker 1: Is that October eighteenth or nine? You know we're recording
Speaker 1: it then, but it's look a little peek behind the curtain. Sorry,
Speaker 1: as we celebrate this, it will be National Seafood bisk Day. Uh.
Speaker 1: And you did mention it was October? Is that? Is
Speaker 1: that a do you do you celebrate? Are you an
Speaker 1: observer of October? I I don't really care for Halloween.
Speaker 1: It's not like a big holiday for me. But anytime
Speaker 1: someone says October very academically correcting them to October is
Speaker 1: very fun to me. I really enjoy that October. Wait,
Speaker 1: is there something? Is that a real thing or that's
Speaker 1: just a colloquialism for just because it's spooky October we
Speaker 1: call it October or is there like an actual phenomenon
Speaker 1: of missing out? Not that I know. If I think
Speaker 1: it's one of those things that was like October at
Speaker 1: not not very Farm whatever, which they really funked up
Speaker 1: with the naming of that because it just sounds like
Speaker 1: it's any other day at not Sparry Farm, which is
Speaker 1: not scary, yes, but it sounds like bass. What is
Speaker 1: something you think is overrated? Okay, controversial? I feel like
Speaker 1: going out in your twenties like that, who all of
Speaker 1: the going out in your twenties is overrated, Like you
Speaker 1: think you're gonna have an awesome night, and then and
Speaker 1: then like as I get older and now I don't
Speaker 1: go out like go out anymore, you know, like go
Speaker 1: to clubs and bars anymore? Really, and I like I realized,
Speaker 1: like how over it is. I wait in line, I
Speaker 1: get dressed, especially if you're single, you go with a
Speaker 1: bunch of guys, you get embarrassed by the bounce before
Speaker 1: you get in. You spend on the beer. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then like you spend eighteen dollars on a beer, You
Speaker 1: try to talk to one girl, she says there's no
Speaker 1: Then you're embarrassed talk to the rest of the rest
Speaker 1: of the night, and then you sit listen a lot
Speaker 1: of music. You can't talk the booth sucks, you don't
Speaker 1: have a table, It just sucks. Like you go home
Speaker 1: and then you're like, that was dope, right. That was
Speaker 1: a wild night, you know. It wasn't why we stood
Speaker 1: around in a corner. Nobody danced. There was just and
Speaker 1: if you guys, I'm getting tired, Can you go home
Speaker 1: so I could put on some joker makeup and record
Speaker 1: some TikTok's right up? So what I like to do.
Speaker 1: I can shut down at the bar, I get on
Speaker 1: my joker at home. It's I just feel like I
Speaker 1: look back now, and I was reminded of this when
Speaker 1: I saw the movie Sorry to Bother You, and like,
Speaker 1: if remember that he goes to like this back like
Speaker 1: v I p Entrance and he has no fun and
Speaker 1: like he's sitting in the shitty booth and the drink
Speaker 1: sucks and the people are is no fun at all.
Speaker 1: And then he comes out and there like how was it?
Speaker 1: And he was like it was dope, right, And it's
Speaker 1: like that's what we're I feel like that's what we're
Speaker 1: supposed to say because we spent so much money and
Speaker 1: so much time, is so much ever doing this thing,
Speaker 1: But I feel like all that going on in your
Speaker 1: twenties when you're in your thirties is like overrated. Wow,
Speaker 1: we gotta acknowledge you gotta you gotta cat in the background,
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry the cat is going crazy because it's good. No,
Speaker 1: I have cats too, And I'm like, it's because and
Speaker 1: I know why, because I came out the room and
Speaker 1: came right upstairs to do this podcast. So I have
Speaker 1: completely ignored her. And so she is downstairs knocking everything
Speaker 1: down off the table, liked and ship, She's batting pats around,
Speaker 1: she's knocking computer chargers off, She's just knocking everything she
Speaker 1: can do. You think that in the in that time though,
Speaker 1: right Like, I'm trying to think of what the value
Speaker 1: is because I certainly didn't learn much when I was
Speaker 1: going out. I learned what were of like my physical
Speaker 1: ability to consume like alcohol and drugs, but I wasn't like, man,
Speaker 1: I learned a lesson tonight at the club, y'all. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like just the loud music in particular makes
Speaker 1: it impossible to come municate. And then it's just a
Speaker 1: weird It's like a weird psychological psychological experiment because you
Speaker 1: just like are purely like you can't even really think
Speaker 1: you can't talk to other people. I think the the
Speaker 1: loud music is designed to make you just drink more.
Speaker 1: But I don't know, man, I always after a while,
Speaker 1: I just started finding places that didn't play loud music
Speaker 1: between yeah, yeah, more fun house parties with places they'll
Speaker 1: play on music. I like that stuff now even. You know.
Speaker 1: What's also interesting is like I'm not a tall guy, right,
Speaker 1: and so most men are taller than me, and then
Speaker 1: most women when they go out where heels that make
Speaker 1: them taller than me. So when I go into a
Speaker 1: place and I'm like, damn, I'm the shortest person in here,
Speaker 1: Like that's also a weird It's not, it's not, it's
Speaker 1: not a great feeling. It's just like I'm like, man, like,
Speaker 1: but you have more to offer than your hype aside,
Speaker 1: you know, I know, but like I don't look at
Speaker 1: you and go look at that man who's a short
Speaker 1: The world of of people in their twenties don't often
Speaker 1: care about Oh no, absolutely toxic. That's why. Like the
Speaker 1: thing about the club is like when I go, when
Speaker 1: I look back and think about what my whole vibe
Speaker 1: was in there is so performative. It was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I put me I'm up being here. Yeah, I'm in
Speaker 1: this section. Okay, yeah, exactly, sending the last three dollars
Speaker 1: on my debit card exactly like ball out and maybe overdraft,
Speaker 1: but I'm not gonna tell nobody in here. Remember in
Speaker 1: my twenties in Chicago, worked at a club and he
Speaker 1: was like, he was like, do you know how many
Speaker 1: rental car keys there are in the back, like like
Speaker 1: the valet. He was like, people are renting cars for
Speaker 1: the weeks to pull up, just to like pull up
Speaker 1: and like their He's like, you know, they rent a car,
Speaker 1: they go pick up, pick up their their lady. They
Speaker 1: put on the thing. When it's like it's all fake.
Speaker 1: They're like, why do you have that big old chunky
Speaker 1: Hurts navigation system both into your dashboards? You're like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, man, I think somebody trying to thank me.
Speaker 1: I see my my cat has been quiet now that
Speaker 1: I'm and giving her attention. Yeah, what's your cat's name?
Speaker 1: This is Gianna gig Bryant, named after Kobe's daughter, who
Speaker 1: passed the same week that she passed. Yeah. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: feel like it's just you know, you have the thoughts
Speaker 1: stopping with the music, you have, Like everybody's just trying
Speaker 1: to behave like other people, so they're blending in. It's
Speaker 1: like it's like military training in there. Everyone's just trying
Speaker 1: to Actually, I don't mean to say and learn anything,
Speaker 1: because I learned very quickly that performative swag, vibes and
Speaker 1: ship was not for me and was actually like so
Speaker 1: empty because it kind of takes that thing where like
Speaker 1: when you're younger and you you sort of you covet
Speaker 1: the club. I wanna be there. I want to be
Speaker 1: exactly and I can't wait to be up in it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this ship my way. Then you go
Speaker 1: and you're like, this is fucking not for me. Kind
Speaker 1: of very quickly begin to learn. So yeah, I learned
Speaker 1: who I was thanks to its privilege. It's amazing to like,
Speaker 1: it's amazing to like think about what I enjoy that
Speaker 1: I look forward to now, Like I look forward to
Speaker 1: coming home, cooking the meal, watching the Netflix show that
Speaker 1: I'm looking for, you know what I mean, Like I
Speaker 1: look forward to it that I would have in my twenties.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, I can't wait to go to this
Speaker 1: club that I'm gonna wait in line for forty five
Speaker 1: minutes in the cold before the dude left me in
Speaker 1: so that so that so I can stand in a
Speaker 1: corner and not talk to anybody, Right, what is something
Speaker 1: you think is underrated? The national parks of this beautiful country.
Speaker 1: I think I've probably gone on about this on this
Speaker 1: show before, but we just had a friend get married
Speaker 1: in Yosemite, and Dude, as easy as it is to
Speaker 1: like hate America right now and what it stands for,
Speaker 1: just go look at it, dude. It's so beautiful and honestly, like,
Speaker 1: I know, fans of this show are probably fans of
Speaker 1: progressive politics, or you just listen to get really angry
Speaker 1: about progressive politics. But national parks are progressive politics done well.
Speaker 1: It's perfect, man and like and honestly just fuels my soul. Dude,
Speaker 1: I've been like going and it got me through the
Speaker 1: pandemic and um yeah, we were in Yosemite and we
Speaker 1: went on the hetch Hetchi Hike, which is the reservoir
Speaker 1: that gives San Francisco all its drinking water, and it
Speaker 1: was just dope, man, like, just learning about the attitudes
Speaker 1: of this country and how they've shifted. So like hege
Speaker 1: Hetchi was used to be a valley and then they
Speaker 1: flooded it after the San Francisco fires. None of this
Speaker 1: I knew before this wedding, by the way. So San Francisco,
Speaker 1: there was like a huge public debate, and at the
Speaker 1: Times early nine hundreds, the prevailing public opinion was that
Speaker 1: the wilderness is something to be conquered, very like manifest
Speaker 1: destiny sort of attitude, like it's us versus nature, Right,
Speaker 1: we gotta go conquer that ship and show who's the boss,
Speaker 1: who's the king of the fucking world, and right up
Speaker 1: all the rivers and lakes, and then turn the things
Speaker 1: that aren't rivers and lakes into rivers and lakes. That's right,
Speaker 1: just just because we came because like man, yeah, we
Speaker 1: gotta we gotta gentrify the woods and you know, make
Speaker 1: the deer go find somewhere else to live, exactly. And
Speaker 1: so but then there was this guy JOm wir m
Speaker 1: u I R And I just read it, yeah, and
Speaker 1: he like he was all about it, early preservationist, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And like they kind of reached
Speaker 1: this compromise with because San Francisco burned down and they
Speaker 1: were like, bro, we need water, and so they kind
Speaker 1: of like work together to create this situation that worked
Speaker 1: well for nature and for people. And I was just
Speaker 1: so fascinated, man. And by the end, I was like,
Speaker 1: I honestly needed to hear about a time where people
Speaker 1: like came together and solved a problem. And you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, So I just had National parks. You
Speaker 1: gotta take advantage, man, everyone. We we did so much
Speaker 1: work in the like New New Deal era, like the
Speaker 1: one time that America was able to like consolidate behind
Speaker 1: progressive and you know, socialist ideals, and we're just coasting
Speaker 1: off of that ship like ever since and like slowly
Speaker 1: undoing that aggress Yeah, man, And it's just like it's
Speaker 1: the ship that like it should be bipartisan, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like I've been in national parks and
Speaker 1: seeing dudes and maga hats walking around, and I'm just like, so,
Speaker 1: I know you love this, but you know that the
Speaker 1: guy he wants to drill this for or you know
Speaker 1: that right that's not here. Be well, that's also a
Speaker 1: national park in money, man, play drilling spots. That's what
Speaker 1: they're doing there. Yeah. Yeah, I love the idea of
Speaker 1: a Republican who goes to Sedona to heal on the
Speaker 1: vortexas like, who's that guy? Who is this cross section
Speaker 1: of humanity Kirsten Cinema. Yeah, yeah, libertarians you have? Have
Speaker 1: you been in the Mirrorwoods in Mill Valley? No? But
Speaker 1: now and out of obviously is named after him. Right.
Speaker 1: Where is the Daddy John your Mill Valley up in
Speaker 1: the Bay Area? No, okay, I gotta do that. That
Speaker 1: will be next to I love it up there, man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they area. Yeah, you're overrated and underrated or sort of
Speaker 1: a cross purposes because I feel like a lot of
Speaker 1: the good park space in a lot of the cities
Speaker 1: around the country are golf course right that we need
Speaker 1: to invade and just claim as as parks that we
Speaker 1: can use. This is I bring it up a lot.
Speaker 1: It's from Malcolm Gladwell podcast, but it's like the one
Speaker 1: Gladwell idea that I was like, fuck, yeah, man, how
Speaker 1: how many tax breaks are we giving these plays? What
Speaker 1: we're playing them to keep a part like a bunch
Speaker 1: of the best land in the middle of the city
Speaker 1: as a private thing that we're not allowed to go into,
Speaker 1: Like that's that's the deal that we got. So yeah,
Speaker 1: but I won't I won't tell your golf course buddies
Speaker 1: that he said that ship because I mean, I'll be honest,
Speaker 1: look at me, dude. They know they know, they know,
Speaker 1: they know I'm a mole. I can tell the way
Speaker 1: I look out at the green. I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: we could really plant some beautiful acorn bearing oak trees.
Speaker 1: What if we rewilded this space? Yeah, I look like
Speaker 1: a guy who lived where they built the golf course.
Speaker 1: And I'm coming out this is right right. You can't
Speaker 1: put on pants goofy enough to make them trust you.
Speaker 1: But like, oh, those are cool golf spikes. Can you
Speaker 1: what do you call those stocks? Pretty? I call them
Speaker 1: yuffy stompers called? Do you even know whose ancestral land?
Speaker 1: This is me a white man emphasis on the age
Speaker 1: and white. All right, let's take a quick break and
Speaker 1: we'll be right back. And we're back, and we're riding
Speaker 1: the roller coaster of Danielle's relationship with her cats. Apparently
Speaker 1: they're they're causing all sorts of havoc. My guests, they
Speaker 1: know that it's national Make a Dog's Day Day. But
Speaker 1: taking back to power, Yeah, taking back the power. They're
Speaker 1: like fun this. Alright, let's let's get into the the
Speaker 1: third announcement from Donald Trump about how he's going to
Speaker 1: change the landscape of media. He has announced Trump Media
Speaker 1: Technology Group because he believes he can take down big
Speaker 1: tech by creating a worse product that can't compete at
Speaker 1: all with Netflix, Twitter, and even a company called I
Speaker 1: Heart Media. He's coming for us, coming for us media.
Speaker 1: I haven't, but somehow this man has. And yeah, he
Speaker 1: also thinks he can go after Amazon's cloud service and
Speaker 1: like Stripe for like payments and stuff. This is all
Speaker 1: because he thinks that he can create like essentially an
Speaker 1: uncancellable Internet infrastructure. So if no matter how racist or
Speaker 1: vile you are, they can't say, like, well, we're gonna
Speaker 1: take this hosting service away from him, or we're gonna
Speaker 1: take this way of processing payments away from you, because
Speaker 1: he'll have his own versions and that will shield them
Speaker 1: from any kind of real scrutiny or criticism. But the
Speaker 1: big one I think that was announced today was the
Speaker 1: Truth social platform. So get ready, let's just give a
Speaker 1: real quick background on like his So this is the
Speaker 1: third in a series. First, it was from the desk
Speaker 1: of where he would be issuing communications to publish, straight
Speaker 1: from the desk of Donald Trump, and it was a blog,
Speaker 1: and like he just didn't maybe he hadn't heard of
Speaker 1: those and he thought he was inventing them, but that
Speaker 1: that barely got any attention, and so that went away.
Speaker 1: In July, this is what I didn't even know about.
Speaker 1: He quietly launched a new social media platform called get term,
Speaker 1: which really should be the name of Larry the cable
Speaker 1: Guy platform, but he went for it G E T
Speaker 1: t R and that apparently fell apart, which you know,
Speaker 1: he's taking a lot of swings. He's just letting, letting loose.
Speaker 1: And now he's announced his third an app dubbed Truth
Speaker 1: because yeah, that the he he wants. He thinks that
Speaker 1: the truth is. I don't know. This is pretty in
Speaker 1: line with his overall strategy of like naming things the
Speaker 1: exact opposite of what they are. Yeah, right, like saying
Speaker 1: he's a president rather than a despotic fucking in Is
Speaker 1: Donald Trump the president? It depends on which news channel
Speaker 1: you watch, because there seemed to be competing narratives. But
Speaker 1: like with the truth thing, predictably right posting to the
Speaker 1: site will be called true thing, and fucking each end
Speaker 1: visual post will be known as a truth. So I
Speaker 1: get that they're fully trying to take any meaning out
Speaker 1: of that word truth by being like, yeah, I read
Speaker 1: truth to that truth from earlier. Who's your favorite truth?
Speaker 1: Or oh yeah, let me some good accounts for some
Speaker 1: funny truths to follow On truth Social, he has trademarked
Speaker 1: the term truth thing and re truth, which is pretty cool. Uh,
Speaker 1: you'd you'd hope that it would be something a little
Speaker 1: bit more interesting than that. But of course this this
Speaker 1: makes sense because you say absolutely lie and you call
Speaker 1: it your truth. Yeah, shockingly, I know this is gonna
Speaker 1: hold unto your butts everyone. The project launched a beta
Speaker 1: and people took a look a little behind the curtains,
Speaker 1: and it was seemingly done as cheaply and lazily as possible.
Speaker 1: The site's code is a quote mostly unmodified version of Mastodon,
Speaker 1: which is an open source software launched in twice sixteen
Speaker 1: and also a bad that's very cool, yes, but anyone
Speaker 1: can use this like I could use this to launch
Speaker 1: my own social networking site. That's basically what they did.
Speaker 1: They just took that open source software, didn't even make
Speaker 1: any modifications to it, so it was extremely easy for
Speaker 1: people to immediately hack into although you didn't really need
Speaker 1: to hack into it. They launched the beta and people
Speaker 1: could immediately just sign up for accounts with the handles
Speaker 1: at Donald Trump and at Mike Pence and at Donald J. Trump.
Speaker 1: So somebody got that one and immediately posted a photo
Speaker 1: of a pig defecating on its testicles. Yep, that old
Speaker 1: that old twitters. I, um, I kind of hate that,
Speaker 1: but I love it, but I hate it. Well, it's
Speaker 1: just kind of they've nailed the perfect visual metaphor for
Speaker 1: what is happening here. Yeah, and it's been a common
Speaker 1: sort of troll reply on Twitter too for just like
Speaker 1: just spamming threads with that image because people like don't
Speaker 1: want to get it off here. But yeah, the it's
Speaker 1: clear that like everything just not much stop put into it.
Speaker 1: It's really about the I guess the optics of saying
Speaker 1: like this is what I'm gonna do, and this is
Speaker 1: when it's coming out. There might be a beta open
Speaker 1: for some people like at the like sort of end
Speaker 1: of the year, but the plans are that this thing
Speaker 1: is launching in But there's also like really weird guidelines
Speaker 1: within the website to like the slides about like the
Speaker 1: sort of presentation of the website, Like it's a big tent.
Speaker 1: It's for everyone. Liberals, conservatives, independence can all come through.
Speaker 1: But then there's like this fine print that's like truth
Speaker 1: can like revoke and deactivate your account for any reason
Speaker 1: without you knowing, without you have, without even us having
Speaker 1: to explain. So I don't talk shit on here. You're
Speaker 1: going you're literally prohibited from disparaging the site or and
Speaker 1: this is a quote annoying the site's employees. Yeah, there
Speaker 1: was a tune on S and L that they took
Speaker 1: down that was basically like about how Disney owned everything.
Speaker 1: Like this graphic reminds me of that cartoon. Yeah, just
Speaker 1: with all the other brands there. Yeah, and just taking
Speaker 1: everything over. The graphicing question has t MTG with like
Speaker 1: a line to truth social verses, and then it's like Twitter, Facebook,
Speaker 1: and then in a separate like media content production section,
Speaker 1: it's tmt G Plus, which competes with Netflix and Disney Plus.
Speaker 1: I don't know how they get the plus is brilliant,
Speaker 1: like Disney Plus, Oh ship come on to go along
Speaker 1: with fucking Trump flicks, you know, an HBO maga. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's pretty good at they should have done that. TMTG
Speaker 1: News is the one that's coming for our ass for
Speaker 1: I heeart and CNN. That's kind of a flex shadow.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think because purely all this, all of
Speaker 1: these things are just pointing out or like sort of
Speaker 1: superlatives like within a given industry. So it's like, if
Speaker 1: it's streaming, you're gonna put the streaming people there. And
Speaker 1: if it's radio or podcasting, then if they're they're mentioning
Speaker 1: this bigheamoth company. So yeah, it's a we look forward
Speaker 1: to your network, although I feel like they're already out there.
Speaker 1: The long term Opportunity t MTG tech stack, which just
Speaker 1: sounds like some words they made up and put in
Speaker 1: front of him that He was like, nice, I love
Speaker 1: a text. Yeah. Yeah, like you said, they're coming for
Speaker 1: Amazon Cloud computing, uh in Google Cloud, so you know
Speaker 1: they got big big pet code for your platform. No, no,
Speaker 1: I just ripped off masted on. Okay, so some real
Speaker 1: pioneering type should happening over here. Good to know. Yeah, alright,
Speaker 1: let's uh, let's talk about just a little bit of
Speaker 1: news around the green energy possibilities how we could possibly
Speaker 1: fight climate change make the world a little bit more sustainable.
Speaker 1: So you know, as Congress debated last week whether to
Speaker 1: pair down the Biden administration's climate proposals UH and spoiler alert,
Speaker 1: they did. New research has suggested doing so would create
Speaker 1: far fewer jobs if you if you paired it down
Speaker 1: and just kept going with fossil fuel, kept doubling down.
Speaker 1: For every million dollars the US government invests, solar produces
Speaker 1: over two point seven times more jobs than fossil fuels.
Speaker 1: We're doing an analysis from to environmental think tanks and
Speaker 1: labor unions. Wind energy spurs over two point eight times
Speaker 1: more jobs than the investments in oil, gas and coal.
Speaker 1: Retro Filling buildings to be more energy efficient creates demand
Speaker 1: for nearly three times as many jobs. So these are
Speaker 1: it's it's not a issue of well, you know, fossil
Speaker 1: fuels is like the thing that's good for the economy.
Speaker 1: The only excuse that they have for continuing to double
Speaker 1: down on fossil fuels is that fossil fuels have the
Speaker 1: money and therefore the inertia to um keep them moving
Speaker 1: in the same direction they've been moving in for Essentially,
Speaker 1: it's just wild that this analysis just negates any argument
Speaker 1: that would come out of this lobbying side of being like, well,
Speaker 1: then what happens all these people's jobs? Man, if you
Speaker 1: get rid of coal, then what happens? And you're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's actually there. Even if those people fucking cleaved themselves
Speaker 1: like a cell and turned into two people, that person
Speaker 1: would also have a job. That's how lucrative and how
Speaker 1: much opportunity is there because we have a massive undertaking
Speaker 1: to change the energy mix. Yeah, and we actually have
Speaker 1: a like specific example of you know, a way, a
Speaker 1: way that we could be changing things and helping the
Speaker 1: environment and helping economies. But before we get to that, uh,
Speaker 1: Danielle's Internet just went out unfortunately, and you know, we're
Speaker 1: hoping that she is able to get back in here,
Speaker 1: but always wonderful having Danielle. Hopefully it comes back. She's
Speaker 1: working on getting back on as we speak. Were momentarily
Speaker 1: if all, we're hoping to be rejoined. But this is
Speaker 1: the miles and I are full of enough hot air
Speaker 1: to uh push this thing through to the real wind bag,
Speaker 1: am I? Right? All right? Let's let's talk really briefly
Speaker 1: about the dependency ratio, just because I think it continues
Speaker 1: to be one of the most underrated kind of forces
Speaker 1: or explanations in kind of macro economics in the modern world.
Speaker 1: There's a story in the New York Times about how
Speaker 1: China's economy has continued to slow, and it like focuses
Speaker 1: on steel mills facing our cuts and computer chip shortages
Speaker 1: and you know, troubled property companies. There's like a big
Speaker 1: real estate kind of meltdown happening in China. But it
Speaker 1: doesn't mention anywhere. This thing that I always I come
Speaker 1: back to, like this is on par with the British
Speaker 1: cold gas study and Tom Hanks peeing in every movie
Speaker 1: is like a thing I I just bring up at
Speaker 1: every opportunity that I get. But yeah, and Havana syndrome
Speaker 1: as well. But it's basically like you put working age
Speaker 1: people on one side of a scale, you put people
Speaker 1: who are too young or too old to work on
Speaker 1: the other side. And the more that the working age
Speaker 1: people outweigh the other people the dependence which is called
Speaker 1: what it's called the dependency ratio, the stronger the economy
Speaker 1: like tends to perform over over a long period of time.
Speaker 1: And if you like, this basically explains the twentieth century,
Speaker 1: Like the US is like unprecedented baby boom was working
Speaker 1: its way through working age during when America's like economy
Speaker 1: really took off, and now that they're all hitting retirement age,
Speaker 1: it's starting to slow down. And China like is a
Speaker 1: really interesting example of this, because they did the one
Speaker 1: child experiment, Like their one child policy was basically a
Speaker 1: way to kind of force a really favorable dependency ratio
Speaker 1: by sort of artificially shrinking the number of dependents. And
Speaker 1: so they had this huge population of people who are
Speaker 1: going through working age and then much smaller dependent and
Speaker 1: can be seen as fueling their massive economic growth. But
Speaker 1: now that big like chunk of working age people is
Speaker 1: hitting retirement. So it's like, as I'm trying to explain it,
Speaker 1: I'm starting to see why it's not raised that much
Speaker 1: because it's kind of boring. But I think it's also
Speaker 1: like it takes some of the agents and like heroism
Speaker 1: and like the sort of like deserving out of America's
Speaker 1: economic success, and particularly the economic success of the baby boomers.
Speaker 1: Like the idea that they're just like a lucky demographic
Speaker 1: cohort is probably like something that baby boomers are allergic to,
Speaker 1: and they're you know, still even though the medium population
Speaker 1: of America's thirty eight. I think if you like look
Speaker 1: at the median population of powerful people in the country,
Speaker 1: it's probably squarely in the heart of like the baby
Speaker 1: boomer set. And I just feel like that generation's entire
Speaker 1: worldview wants to believe that they are special and better
Speaker 1: than everyone and earned their financial success broadly, yeah, just
Speaker 1: broadly speaking, because we know we don't. I love when
Speaker 1: the boomers again come in they're like, I'm not like
Speaker 1: the other boomers are like, I mean a terrible show
Speaker 1: right way, but yeah, I mean. And then I also think,
Speaker 1: like just the one child policy is a very like
Speaker 1: I don't know, it is one of the strangest or
Speaker 1: like most kind of inexplicable policies. If you just totally
Speaker 1: take the dependency ratio out of the equation, it's just
Speaker 1: and and I feel like we never really think about
Speaker 1: like why they did that or how it relates to
Speaker 1: their financial success. It just means that. So what one
Speaker 1: detail that kind of jumped out at me other than
Speaker 1: like I think it like there's a relationship between like
Speaker 1: America's like white supremacy and their ability to just be
Speaker 1: like a China doing the one child policy. That's weird.
Speaker 1: They're weird. Just like not think about it any further.
Speaker 1: It also relates to immigration policy because US, like, one
Speaker 1: of the main forces that is keeping the US media
Speaker 1: age like and dependency ratio in a good place is
Speaker 1: the you know, massive immigration or you know, the urge
Speaker 1: for immigration that the GOP like wants to wants to
Speaker 1: fight against. And it just seems coincidental or not coincidental
Speaker 1: that the people who are like the most like baby
Speaker 1: boomer as the pop party, the GOP wants to like
Speaker 1: fight against immigration, and they're also the ones who would
Speaker 1: like most want to ignore the financial realities of like
Speaker 1: the dependency ratio being the reason that they have their success.
Speaker 1: But that's kind of one of the reasons that people
Speaker 1: think that the dependency ratio is going to hit China
Speaker 1: harder than the US is by fifty Like the US
Speaker 1: is population is supposed to you know, grow by quite
Speaker 1: a bit because of the dependency ratio, and China is
Speaker 1: supposed to shrink because of people are more likely to
Speaker 1: leave the country than want to come there. So that's
Speaker 1: that story, m hm. And that's all I have to
Speaker 1: say about that. And one child policy base level we
Speaker 1: agree is a bad idea, yes, okay, alright, yes, yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: because where you're like and there's one one child policy
Speaker 1: and then there was a long pause and then you
Speaker 1: landed on so strange. It's like, yeah, it's strange. Keep
Speaker 1: going though, Yeah, very quirky. Yeah they were, but I
Speaker 1: don't want to say authoritarian. Uh just just four things
Speaker 1: like what were they Yeah, yeah, they were really looking
Speaker 1: at that though, huh give it up. No, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: I think it's funny too, because there's for all, immigration
Speaker 1: is such the one of these issues in the country
Speaker 1: where there's there's it's like it's it's looked at, it's
Speaker 1: like it's it's the end of the country. But no
Speaker 1: one acknowledges that so many of the great things about
Speaker 1: about this place is that it's because of people coming
Speaker 1: here from different place is whether that's just the opportunity
Speaker 1: it provides or you know, cuisine. I think a lot
Speaker 1: of people, I think for a lot of people are
Speaker 1: like man fulk immigrants realized a lot of the food
Speaker 1: you're eating that you even think as American is because
Speaker 1: of this melting pot that the United States became. And
Speaker 1: then also on top of it, the everyone I think
Speaker 1: that's the other part they don't talk about is the
Speaker 1: financial aspect for people who are so focused on like
Speaker 1: the economy of it all, Like if you were just
Speaker 1: actually playing with facts and figures, like, no, okay, yeah
Speaker 1: this we can handle more people being here. But it's
Speaker 1: also this fear of a brown or not so alabashed
Speaker 1: or white America that fears a lot of it drives
Speaker 1: a lot of the fear around it. Yeah, absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 1: And just in relation to World War Two, like I think, Miles,
Speaker 1: cover your ears. Yeah, that spoiler alert. The fact that
Speaker 1: the US had this massive population boom and generation you know,
Speaker 1: the baby boom that drove their financial success. Well, and
Speaker 1: we were just like and we took credit for winning
Speaker 1: World War Two, while Russia, who actually like you know,
Speaker 1: all their working age people like died in World War
Speaker 1: Two while actually doing a lot of the you know,
Speaker 1: horrible work that was required to win. That is also
Speaker 1: a pretty big, you know reason that the US ended
Speaker 1: up winning the Cold War or at least like outlasting
Speaker 1: the USS are. But again, not not the sort of
Speaker 1: thing that people in the US want to acknowledge, especially
Speaker 1: in like the mainstream media. Yeah, Miles, you can start listening.
Speaker 1: I guess, all right, what happened. I'm just watching that
Speaker 1: movie Enemy at the Gates with Jude Law. I hope
Speaker 1: it doesn't spoil anything. I feel like it was only
Speaker 1: like recently, like in the last couple of years, or
Speaker 1: like someone on TV was like, no, we only won
Speaker 1: the war, becausn't Russia? You know that, right, and people
Speaker 1: exactly like it was. It was as if people like
Speaker 1: it was anathema to everyone's like, oh my god, what
Speaker 1: does this person say that is a historian that is
Speaker 1: acknowledging what happened on the Eastern Front. Okay, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's it's still built. It's part of
Speaker 1: our idea that uh, yeah, we dropped bomb, people gave up,
Speaker 1: we'll beat Hitler good night. Yeah, m hm. Yeah. It's
Speaker 1: crazy that all those boomers helps Russia win the war.
Speaker 1: Russia never would have done it if the boomers hadn't
Speaker 1: just told them, go ahead and do it please, right,
Speaker 1: hit after hit from that generation. All right, let's take
Speaker 1: a quick break and we'll be right back to talk
Speaker 1: about Jesus Ween and we're back and let's talk Netflix.
Speaker 1: The CEO Ted Serrandos has been in a bit of
Speaker 1: a ship storm since last week, as he just like
Speaker 1: kind of continues to completely fumble the backlash against Dave
Speaker 1: Chappelle's just horribly transphobic BS special The Closer. So Surrandos
Speaker 1: kick things off by essentially saying that Netflix pushes boundaries
Speaker 1: and the comedy does. Man. Yeah, ended up like they
Speaker 1: had a conflict with a trans employee who was unhappy
Speaker 1: with their employer's actions and suspended and then unsuspended that employee.
Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, I had nothing to do with that.
Speaker 1: We just suspend people. It was because they were vocal about, like,
Speaker 1: you know, criticizing the companies like this whole other thing,
Speaker 1: and yeah, it's getting worse now, Like you put out
Speaker 1: a letter two employees trying to explain the mess away
Speaker 1: and how it's really not that bad because Netflix also
Speaker 1: has like stuff with like gay people too, so that's chill.
Speaker 1: And he said this is in this letter quote. Adults
Speaker 1: can watch violence, assault in abuse, or enjoy shocking stand
Speaker 1: up comedy without it causing them to harm others. We
Speaker 1: are working hard to ensure marginalized communities aren't defined by
Speaker 1: a single story. So he had sex education oranges into
Speaker 1: a black control z. Hannah Gadsby and Dave Chappelle all
Speaker 1: on Netflix. Key to this is increasing diversity on the
Speaker 1: on the content team itself. Hannah Gatsby did not appreciate
Speaker 1: being deployed as a defense token in this fucking lame
Speaker 1: or argument and posted quote Ted Surranda's just a quick
Speaker 1: note to let you know that I would prefer if
Speaker 1: you didn't drag my name into your mess. Now I
Speaker 1: have to deal with even more of the hate and
Speaker 1: anger that Dave Chappelle's fans like to unleash on me
Speaker 1: every time Dave gets twenty million dollars to process his
Speaker 1: emotionally stunted partial worldview. You didn't pay me nearly enough
Speaker 1: to deal with the real world consequences of the hate
Speaker 1: speech dog whistling you refuse to acknowledge, Ted, fuck you,
Speaker 1: and you're a moral algorithm cold. I do ships with
Speaker 1: more backbone than you. That's just a Joe. I definitely
Speaker 1: didn't cross the line because you just told the world
Speaker 1: there isn't one Wow. Damn, that was good. That was
Speaker 1: a good tweet. Now, as a I think it's a
Speaker 1: be a m I g like I post, but the
Speaker 1: referencing of like, I'd like that, you know, Hannah's calling
Speaker 1: out this just tired as defensive. These things don't lead
Speaker 1: a real world harm, okay, and having a very limited
Speaker 1: definition of what harm is. You know, as he says,
Speaker 1: this is another this is his further you know defense
Speaker 1: of like this harm argument quote. The strongest evidence to
Speaker 1: support this is that violence on screens has grown hugely
Speaker 1: over the last thirty years, especially with first party shooter
Speaker 1: games the first party, and yet violent crime has fallen
Speaker 1: significantly in many countries. Adults can watch violence blah blah
Speaker 1: blah blah blah without harming others. So that was like
Speaker 1: the first part. You know, you can still get Birth
Speaker 1: of a Nation or Triumph of the Will through their
Speaker 1: disc based rental service, just so you know. But also,
Speaker 1: like a lot of people are pointing out, is like
Speaker 1: have you seen this own documentary that's on Netflix that
Speaker 1: you put out called Disclosure, which the sub heading is
Speaker 1: in this documentary leading transcreatives and thinkers share heartfelt perspectives
Speaker 1: and analysis about Hollywood's impact on the trans community. I
Speaker 1: think that's just like your opinion, man, and it's like
Speaker 1: your opinion man on my own platform. Yeah, oh man,
Speaker 1: I was just having a conversation with a friend over
Speaker 1: dinner about this last night, but who's also a comedian.
Speaker 1: It's so like comedians, a lot of them can't make
Speaker 1: the connection between like the thing they're saying and then
Speaker 1: also violence. Like to them, there's just not the straight
Speaker 1: line at all, and it's like really fucking infuriating. Also
Speaker 1: the people that, really, I would say, would you say,
Speaker 1: there's like a vent diagram of people that hated Hannah
Speaker 1: gas By special and then also people that like like
Speaker 1: defend Defense Chapelle, And it's like, if you didn't think
Speaker 1: that was comedy, why what do you think that is? Like?
Speaker 1: And I watched the whole thing too, and it was
Speaker 1: like long, point point making pauses, diatribes is like what
Speaker 1: it reads like, Yeah, it's like super hypical. Granted, you
Speaker 1: know the whole thing wasn't just a screed against the
Speaker 1: LGBTQ community, but what it was was it didn't it's
Speaker 1: it was not a comedy special. When you look at
Speaker 1: his other specials, it's a completely different person and a
Speaker 1: different kind of performance, and it's truly just someone, as
Speaker 1: Gatsby says, it's just sort of like trying to process
Speaker 1: their limited worldview on stage for a couple of million bucks.
Speaker 1: Yea and a lot of people said, look, if for
Speaker 1: all the people who want to make the content doesn't
Speaker 1: cause horm nonsense, a lot of them just gestured at
Speaker 1: thirteen reasons why you know. Many child development experts and
Speaker 1: psychologists criticized the show for its depiction of a teenager
Speaker 1: taking their own life, and they said it could possibly
Speaker 1: very well and most likely would lead to copycat incidents.
Speaker 1: And then a damning study was released. According to the
Speaker 1: Journal of the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry
Speaker 1: in March seventeen, which was a month after the show debut,
Speaker 1: there's a twenty eight point nine percent increase in suicide
Speaker 1: among Americans ages ten to seventeen. And it completely was
Speaker 1: like an out are based on statistical trends and things
Speaker 1: like that, and obviously, again correlation isn't causation, but it
Speaker 1: was definitely enough for Netflix to say, Okay, let's reconsider something,
Speaker 1: and they just did the minimum by adding a warning card, um,
Speaker 1: oh too too rich, not enough people telling them to
Speaker 1: shut the funk up. I think is often what happens, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's a bummer, man. Harm isn't just
Speaker 1: about walking up to someone and committing a violent hate crime,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I think that's how
Speaker 1: people excuse that this isn't bad, that this doesn't arrive
Speaker 1: to that level of what the hate speech or something
Speaker 1: like that. And I would say anything that is contributing
Speaker 1: to the slowing of progress is in and of itself
Speaker 1: a violent outcome for somebody, because normalizing the other ing
Speaker 1: of trans people through edgy comedy specials directly contributes to
Speaker 1: people not seeing the humanity of these people. And it's
Speaker 1: just a punchline. And I'm curious which Chappelle defend a
Speaker 1: white comics use of minstrelsy tropes or doing black face
Speaker 1: because people laughed at that ship. But it's the same thing.
Speaker 1: Black Face was used to dehumanize Black Americans, and at
Speaker 1: the time people called that comedy entertainment. But the insidious
Speaker 1: part is what it does is it creates a baseline
Speaker 1: for a level of being able to perceive someone as
Speaker 1: a human who's deserving his dignity or not. And if
Speaker 1: you're fucking with that, and you're trying to pump the
Speaker 1: brakes on that by saying ship like I'm team Turf
Speaker 1: and all this other ship and trying to make your
Speaker 1: point about how like trying to deny someone the agency
Speaker 1: of fucking gender expression, you're directly opposed to progress to
Speaker 1: liberation for people. So in that sense, you're not fucking
Speaker 1: saying anything clever. You're not speaking truth to power or
Speaker 1: anything like that. And if you're talking about you know,
Speaker 1: like good comedy that's edgy and causes conversation is typically
Speaker 1: pointing out an absurdity of our society or culture, right
Speaker 1: that people, damn, that is an absurd thing that is
Speaker 1: going on that we're not really looking at critically. At best,
Speaker 1: Chappelle is saying that it's absurd that trans women think
Speaker 1: they are women. That's it, and that's only I don't
Speaker 1: that would only appear as an absurd notion to someone
Speaker 1: that wants to deny a person the agency of gender expression.
Speaker 1: That's not saying anything larger about this. So that's I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm failing to see where where you understand the like
Speaker 1: the hegemonic dimensions of all this and where power lies
Speaker 1: in what direction you're trying to to skew the like
Speaker 1: make a point, right, I mean there and there is
Speaker 1: no He's just making the same point over and over again,
Speaker 1: and it's just him gesturing at his anxiety around something
Speaker 1: that deep down he knows is wrong and fucked up
Speaker 1: and he hasn't dealt with it. But like in the
Speaker 1: same way that you know, you look back at you know,
Speaker 1: minstrel shows and you're like, how is this comedy? Like
Speaker 1: it doesn't make sense now, but it was because it
Speaker 1: addressed like some deep anxiety of people realizing like what
Speaker 1: they were, like their worldview was incredibly fucked up. I
Speaker 1: think that it's the same thing. It's like I don't
Speaker 1: really even see how this is a joke, but it's
Speaker 1: like basically like touching on a thing that I think
Speaker 1: culturally he like we realize as fucked up, and that
Speaker 1: like he's struggling with like five levels deep in his
Speaker 1: consciousness and like can't can't process, and that's why he
Speaker 1: keeps fucking coming back to it and just being wrong
Speaker 1: and strong on on that Man's There's like almost no
Speaker 1: in between with like comedy anymore. It's like people are
Speaker 1: either tripping on a banana pele or they're like trying
Speaker 1: to start a cult or something. There's like no in between,
Speaker 1: like at all I missed people tripping on a banana peal.
Speaker 1: What happened to prat falls. Yeah, that's what prat falls.
Speaker 1: Let's yoursietal analyzes from your perspective as assists hett and
Speaker 1: male telling people who is and is not a woman,
Speaker 1: like Okay, it's like when Joe Biden was like, if
Speaker 1: you don't vote for me, you ain't black? Right? The
Speaker 1: funk up full? We got something for your ask too,
Speaker 1: all I do you know, I can't stand to It's
Speaker 1: like a lot of these contexts too, will say things
Speaker 1: like why would you listen to us? Like we're comedians,
Speaker 1: and it's like you keep, you know, positioning yourself as
Speaker 1: someone that knows what the funk they're talking about, like
Speaker 1: your you know, like your your point making, like that's
Speaker 1: why people are listening to you. Yeah, and I and
Speaker 1: I think it's I. I really challenge people for people
Speaker 1: who are Dave Chappelle fans, and I've had a few
Speaker 1: of them reach out to me because of our perspective
Speaker 1: on this whole incident is to really consider what you
Speaker 1: are casually just laughing off as not harmful because maybe
Speaker 1: you are in a position socio economically, racially or whatever
Speaker 1: to not understand that ship like that is is what
Speaker 1: keeps pull down is what keeps things from progressing forward
Speaker 1: and having a better outcome or life like when you know,
Speaker 1: I think most people can look at racial stereotypes and
Speaker 1: understand that they're harmful, but you have to begin to
Speaker 1: evolve your thinking of it to understand how large this
Speaker 1: world is and how varied people's experiences and identities are,
Speaker 1: and like, why the funk are you caping for somebody
Speaker 1: who's making someone feel bad? That doesn't that's not that
Speaker 1: doesn't track. And I'm if people in the trans community
Speaker 1: is saying this is violence, this is offensive. I think
Speaker 1: I don't want I don't want to have to be
Speaker 1: subjected to this. Why the funk are other people be like, no, no,
Speaker 1: they don't know what they're talking about. Yeah, that's not
Speaker 1: your place to determine that. This actually brings us to
Speaker 1: a story that I've been teasing for a month now
Speaker 1: but that we keep not getting too because I was
Speaker 1: waiting for the perfect time to bring it up. It's
Speaker 1: the story that super producer Dramas put in the dock
Speaker 1: about a study that shows that two point six percent
Speaker 1: of people have athantasia, meaning they don't possess the ability
Speaker 1: to create pictures in their minds on and oftentimes they
Speaker 1: don't realize this. They just think that people are being
Speaker 1: poetic when they talk about like being able to envision things.
Speaker 1: But this Vice article consists of an interview with somebody
Speaker 1: who has this, and the reason that I think it
Speaker 1: relates to what you're talking about with the Chappelle thing
Speaker 1: is they mentioned that people get like, really defensive and
Speaker 1: kind of aggressive when they explained that they have this.
Speaker 1: So the Vice reporters, have you always known the way
Speaker 1: you thought was significantly different to other people? And then
Speaker 1: the person with affiant Asia says a friend said that
Speaker 1: a friend of theirs was Greek but had lived in
Speaker 1: England for ten years, and they were wondering whether he
Speaker 1: thought in English or in Greek. And until that moment,
Speaker 1: I had no idea that anyone thought in languages at all.
Speaker 1: The same goes for mental images. When people said a
Speaker 1: mental picture, I didn't realize they were being literally. I
Speaker 1: thought it was poetic. When I found out it wasn't.
Speaker 1: A bit of poetry of the world disappeared. I've only
Speaker 1: known for a few years, so it's taken some time
Speaker 1: to get used to the notion that not everyone thinks
Speaker 1: the same way. And then they talk about how people
Speaker 1: get agro about them and the vice reports like why
Speaker 1: would that bother people? And they say it strikes me
Speaker 1: that by mentioning that I don't think in pictures or
Speaker 1: in words, I'm somehow attacking their approach. The fact that
Speaker 1: there's another way makes people uncomfortable. Everyone is always asking
Speaker 1: me questions like can't you tell me what your dad
Speaker 1: looks like? And the reporters like, can't you tell me
Speaker 1: what your dad looks like? And they're like, no, I
Speaker 1: know what my dad looks like. I know what my
Speaker 1: entire family looks like. But the only reason I could
Speaker 1: tell you what color my dad's eyes are is because
Speaker 1: I checked once when someone asked me. And you know,
Speaker 1: I think this ties back to people's like inability to
Speaker 1: process the violence that trans people feel around the Dave
Speaker 1: Chappelle Special. I think it ties back to even the
Speaker 1: Havana syndrome story and the fact that like people are
Speaker 1: so first of all aggressive and like certain, oh they
Speaker 1: must be making it up. Or then when the people
Speaker 1: themselves are accused of like you know, not having had
Speaker 1: the actual attack, gets super defensive. Is because we just
Speaker 1: we are super aggressive and like kind of counterintuitively and
Speaker 1: illogically aggressive when it comes to the idea that other
Speaker 1: human beings don't think and process the world in the
Speaker 1: same way that we did. It's like really troubling two
Speaker 1: people in a way that I just I feel like
Speaker 1: I see it everywhere. Once I read this article, I
Speaker 1: was like, Oh, that's we are like so uncomfortable with
Speaker 1: that idea. And yeah, insecurity is like directly tied to
Speaker 1: anchor about things, right, It's obvious, like you well, I
Speaker 1: feel like once I started realizing that I could see it,
Speaker 1: and other people too, Like when I see you know
Speaker 1: whatever it is, I'm like, oh, you're incredibly insecure about something,
Speaker 1: you know, that's how it comes out. Yeah, And yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just like like we kind of built a world
Speaker 1: that relies on the illusion that we have control over
Speaker 1: like all our faculties and that we all think the
Speaker 1: same and like if somebody commits a crime, they have
Speaker 1: done that on purpose, like thinking the same thoughts that
Speaker 1: we're thinking as we imagine them committing that crime, and
Speaker 1: you know that therefore blame them for their actions. And yeah,
Speaker 1: there's just it's so much of the world relies on
Speaker 1: this illusion and this like misconception. And then you know,
Speaker 1: any time like somebody explains that their brain doesn't want
Speaker 1: exactly the same as somebody else, or you know that
Speaker 1: their experience has led them to see something completely differently
Speaker 1: than you. It just causes people like two freak out
Speaker 1: when you read that. Uh that study? Did it sunk
Speaker 1: with you a little bit? Also? But you were like,
Speaker 1: can I think of images? I was like, for a second,
Speaker 1: I read it this morning. I was like, oh God,
Speaker 1: picture a candle. I got it, I got it right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know what a candle looks like. Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: I think. You know, it's just the same way like
Speaker 1: with especially we saw it with the uprisings last summer
Speaker 1: around you know all the police killings that were happening,
Speaker 1: is that suddenly white people were caught in them all
Speaker 1: and be like, what do you like? He was like, wait,
Speaker 1: there's another way to look at this rather than being
Speaker 1: less empathetic or understanding of like how oppression works. And
Speaker 1: then suddenly it's to get defensive about it and defend
Speaker 1: your because it's for many people it's hard to look
Speaker 1: at your belief system and say, Yo, that's fucking that.
Speaker 1: Actually I need to throw that piece out that's actually
Speaker 1: not helping me, it's actually gonna hold me back, and
Speaker 1: it's actually it's running counter to where the where the
Speaker 1: rest of the world is. Yeah, I had very many
Speaker 1: points of evolution in my own understanding of race, of
Speaker 1: gender identity and things like that, and it truly took me.
Speaker 1: You have to really you have to arrive at a
Speaker 1: place where you have to think, a am I a
Speaker 1: flawed person? Or do I have things that I'm insecure
Speaker 1: about are different about me that I would hope I'm
Speaker 1: living in a world where those things don't matter, where
Speaker 1: those are not those are not vectors to terrorize me emotionally.
Speaker 1: And can I be around people that are understanding? And
Speaker 1: if I do believe that's the world that I want
Speaker 1: to live in, then it is incumbent on me to
Speaker 1: also treat every other person in situation like that, because
Speaker 1: if you get selective, then it's only gonna it doesn't
Speaker 1: lead to increased understanding. Buddy, dude, I even thinking about
Speaker 1: like comedy, like I've been doing it for ten years.
Speaker 1: I started in Pittsburgh, like I had grow up in
Speaker 1: like the most like culturally diverse town, and like going
Speaker 1: to Austin it's like a very liberal place. I remember
Speaker 1: getting there and like doing jokes and like other like
Speaker 1: a a great friend of mine, Cas Barbara Doro other
Speaker 1: another comedian came up to me after a show one time.
Speaker 1: It was like like, you're super funny, but that one
Speaker 1: joke is like super misogynist, and I was like really,
Speaker 1: I was like I don't know if I read it
Speaker 1: that way, and she was like like yeah, like the
Speaker 1: laughs you're getting on it like they're like kind of
Speaker 1: like mean last and do It's stuck with me so much,
Speaker 1: and I remember just having a moment where I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't want that at all, right, as like I
Speaker 1: always felt like but I always felt like open to
Speaker 1: like evolving past those things and thankful for the people
Speaker 1: in my life too, and then we're just totally like hey,
Speaker 1: like let's talk about it real quick, and you know, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you so much. Yeah, And that's that's I think, like,
Speaker 1: so at that moment, you were able to imagine the
Speaker 1: world from a different perspective than your own and evolve
Speaker 1: your perspective to include that perspective. And I feel like
Speaker 1: the you know, all out of these comedians who now
Speaker 1: are just like trying to start a cult are are
Speaker 1: like they get told of a different perspective and they
Speaker 1: just kind of clamped down and choose to not let
Speaker 1: that in and instead to fight against it and try
Speaker 1: to like get people to see the the world through
Speaker 1: their eyes, I guess, And yeah, in a very culti
Speaker 1: way that seems damaging. Well yeah, And a lot of
Speaker 1: people are stuck on the fact that they were probably
Speaker 1: getting a lot of laughs when they were kids in
Speaker 1: the nineties by being the meanest motherfucker who was able
Speaker 1: to rephrase bullying shit in funny ways. M Yeah, because
Speaker 1: a lot of it. Man. I used to get so
Speaker 1: many laughs, like just going off on somebody's looks or
Speaker 1: like your mom, you know, like just just mean ship.
Speaker 1: But people are more like, oh ship, he went there
Speaker 1: in a creative way, and and then you realize, sh it, man,
Speaker 1: I'm just really good at being mean in a way
Speaker 1: that isn't traditionally mean, and it's a way that I
Speaker 1: can make people laugh because we all of us are
Speaker 1: stunted kids and not like not able to extend empathy
Speaker 1: or sympathy in a direction. And then you have to
Speaker 1: have a reckoning with that where I was like fun man,
Speaker 1: like I'm not really funny if the only thing I
Speaker 1: can do is just being like kind of mean, like
Speaker 1: just describe some ship about someone being different or ugly
Speaker 1: or something like that. That's not a joke, And there's
Speaker 1: a I think that's why a lot of people too,
Speaker 1: who have a lot of like jokes or material that
Speaker 1: are sort of come from that philosophy of like, yo,
Speaker 1: I'm just teasing, man, I'm just capt you know, just
Speaker 1: sucking poking fun man, it's not that it's comedy. Those
Speaker 1: are people who really go, what the fuss is happening? Man,
Speaker 1: Like this is all this is like everything is completely changed.
Speaker 1: It's like, well know, like people get older, and as
Speaker 1: people get older, we have more access to experiences and
Speaker 1: ways to process our experience to be like, oh that
Speaker 1: all that ship I used to laugh at that was
Speaker 1: actually really foul. That was actually contributing as someone else
Speaker 1: being feeling like absolute shit about themselves, and that's not
Speaker 1: the spirit of what comedy is. Yeah, And they are
Speaker 1: the ones who are like, I'm just joking, Like what,
Speaker 1: it's just a joke, I'm just a comedian, don't pay
Speaker 1: attention to me. Are the ones who when that premise
Speaker 1: is challenged, they're like they get very serious. Yeah, suddenly,
Speaker 1: what's premisy a massogyn free speech conversation? Yeah, yeah, exactly
Speaker 1: if and again, if your material isn't actually pointing out
Speaker 1: the absurdity of something like and there's a you have
Speaker 1: actually from a position of like you're morally correctly pointing
Speaker 1: out an absurd power imbalance, which is what great comedy
Speaker 1: can do. Yeah, you know, you have to ask yourself
Speaker 1: like what is it really saying? Well, but I feel
Speaker 1: like to them and a lot of these people too,
Speaker 1: they are pointing out that absurdity. It's it's for them.
Speaker 1: It's like they are thinking critics, but it's because they're
Speaker 1: so threatened, and then they don't want it to change.
Speaker 1: And like I just know, dude, I know these fuckers
Speaker 1: like a lot, like a lot of them, And it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: they think that they're the the ones thinking critically and
Speaker 1: we're all we're all like cheap about it, and I
Speaker 1: think and what and what like you couldn't ask for
Speaker 1: a worse laboratory to extract your data from. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: being on a stage with a microphone saying something and
Speaker 1: people laugh, people who already like are are you going
Speaker 1: to move past that. No you're not. No, it's it's yeah,
Speaker 1: the thing that makes you feel like a god, you know,
Speaker 1: like like, yeah, you're just gonna be enabled the whole
Speaker 1: time exactly saying those things here and that's what it's
Speaker 1: all about. It was like, well, I'm getting positive feedback
Speaker 1: from this, guessing all then that's the same thing Dave
Speaker 1: Chappelle said at the Hollywood Bowl when he did premiered
Speaker 1: his documentary there. He went up there and he was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm glad, y'all love me, and people like and he's like,
Speaker 1: if this is what being canceled feels like, then I
Speaker 1: fucking love it. But you are in a bro that's
Speaker 1: that's that's only a couple of thousand people there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you have a lot of other people and I think
Speaker 1: a lot of people also trying to it's this noisy
Speaker 1: minority of people. Well, that may be true that maybe
Speaker 1: mathematically people that are offended by homophobia or trans phobia
Speaker 1: may not be at a global majority. Yeah, but it's
Speaker 1: not an insignificant amount of people. And I think that's
Speaker 1: what's also very dismissive about the whole thing, a very
Speaker 1: literal bubble that he was in like people paying to
Speaker 1: see you with no cell phone, right right? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that sounds everything is above board. Yeah, you know you're
Speaker 1: on the right side when you're espousing views that Vladimir
Speaker 1: Putin would agree with. Yeah, you're you're crushing it man, Putins,
Speaker 1: like he was there in the audience of the Hollywood
Speaker 1: They cut to them real quick. That imbalanced the power
Speaker 1: thing is so true, and it's why to talk about
Speaker 1: something we mentioned earlier, why slipping on a banana peel
Speaker 1: is the best joke because it's the ultimate imbalance of
Speaker 1: power between human beings and grand you know, well, put
Speaker 1: me think about it. Yeah, we're all we're all just
Speaker 1: slipping on peels. Man, we're all just sleeping on peels. Dude,
Speaker 1: it's about It's all about sticking the landing and getting
Speaker 1: back up. Oh my god, you guy should teach a
Speaker 1: comedy class. I like it comedy philosophy. Well, I mean,
Speaker 1: because it's true. And you look at Chappelle's early ship.
Speaker 1: He was able to people be like, oh, these jokes
Speaker 1: are racist. Well, he was actually able to use racism
Speaker 1: to put broadening, like to bring up a larger point
Speaker 1: about the racist dynamics within the United States and when
Speaker 1: that and I think he's completely just I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe that's no longer important to him, but I feel
Speaker 1: like if he for someone again who says like he
Speaker 1: really cares about trans people, then listen to them. Yes,
Speaker 1: listen to them, and don't be dismissive. And just because
Speaker 1: you have one person's family and another trans comedian that
Speaker 1: has your back, that doesn't negate the feelings of many
Speaker 1: other people. And if you're truly there, if like any
Speaker 1: person who wants to claim their ally of anything, you know,
Speaker 1: liberation movement for people, then you have to really be
Speaker 1: aware of this kind of ship and know what you
Speaker 1: are fighting for and fighting against and what progress looks
Speaker 1: like and what the slowing of progress looks like. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just weird because Chappelle has never said something that
Speaker 1: age poorly before, Like when he told us that we
Speaker 1: should give Donald Trump a chance. That dude, he pulled
Speaker 1: back on that one, what like a couple of months
Speaker 1: later or something. That's what I'm hoping that that happens.
Speaker 1: I don't think so three specials in our round now.
Speaker 1: I mean at the end of that special he did
Speaker 1: say something like he said he's done doing the jokes
Speaker 1: until you know whatever he said, until I know that
Speaker 1: we're both laughing together, and it's like, that's not gonna happen.
Speaker 1: So you're just done doing the jokes now, tool and
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, what was the joke? Yeah? Sorry, all right,
Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeys, please
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