Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two oh six,
Speaker 1: episode four of Jar Daly's Like Guys to production of
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Speaker 1: dive into America's share consciousness. Miles. It is Friday, October five,
Speaker 1: which of course means that it is National Schwarmer Day,
Speaker 1: National I Love Lucy Day Day. Yeah, now that is
Speaker 1: what the funk I'm talking about. A little old old
Speaker 1: man energy, a little old living a garbage can. I
Speaker 1: think it's it's something to do with like think from
Speaker 1: the Sesame Street people like got this day on board
Speaker 1: or something been celebrated since seventy six National Grouch Day.
Speaker 1: That was one of the things I tried to get
Speaker 1: my son to be for Halloween instead of a trash truck,
Speaker 1: was Oscar the grouse because he lives in a trash can.
Speaker 1: Like no Oscar the Grouch sucks dead, which is not true,
Speaker 1: but I'm I'm working on him anyway. My name is
Speaker 1: Jack O'Brien a k here we pod again, not alone
Speaker 1: getting loud about some stoves that run on coal like
Speaker 1: a hipster. I was born to dress in wool. But
Speaker 1: I've made up my mind. I gotta record some more's.
Speaker 1: I so here I pod again. That is courtesy at
Speaker 1: Johnny Davis, and I am thrilled to be joined as
Speaker 1: always by my co host, Mr Miles grad Dead. I
Speaker 1: am weed, I am we, I am weed. I am weed. Yes,
Speaker 1: Megan Fox a smell like weed because I am weed.
Speaker 1: That just occurred to me this morning. And that's to
Speaker 1: shout out to me and shout out to Molly Lambert Lamber.
Speaker 1: We're like, yo, Molly wrote that ship like right when
Speaker 1: we got off as she was like, ah, yeah, you
Speaker 1: guys talked about Molly's article. He's like, huh, but amazing
Speaker 1: work by Molly Lambert. Hopefully we can have her on
Speaker 1: to talk about what really went on in that article.
Speaker 1: But what the fuck, I'm still not over it. And
Speaker 1: if he smokes mids, you know what kind of weed
Speaker 1: is mt K smoking? You know? What if he just
Speaker 1: smokes the worst trash like a cd D. She was
Speaker 1: smoking a CBD joint at one point, he was, she
Speaker 1: was during the thing, Yeah, making fox. I guess it
Speaker 1: was for the bild tattoo. So yeah, I guess I
Speaker 1: I shouldn't act like that's a big deal. She isn't weed.
Speaker 1: He is weed, so right, right, But that's what I
Speaker 1: mean because if he was all CBD two if yeah,
Speaker 1: because then I'm like, wait, what that means? You don't
Speaker 1: like any kind of psychoactive anything. You're just like, I
Speaker 1: just like the act of smoking this sort of neutral plant.
Speaker 1: I actually like the synthetic stuff you can get from
Speaker 1: the well Miles. We are thrilled to be joined in
Speaker 1: our third seat once again Way too Long, by a
Speaker 1: comedian and writer who has written for Adult Swims, Robot
Speaker 1: Chicken and hosts the hilarious Los Angeles based comedy show
Speaker 1: Fun a Lingus with past guests Dana don leam Plain.
Speaker 1: Please welcome the hilarious and talented Ellery Smith. Thank you
Speaker 1: so much for having me. Oh my god, thank you
Speaker 1: for being bad too. Since you were just looking back
Speaker 1: the last episode you're I was twenty nineteen. I mean
Speaker 1: it was so long ago. We were talking about havana syndrome.
Speaker 1: That's remember that story. It's been one week. What what's
Speaker 1: new with you? You're still in l A. You're still
Speaker 1: still in la I didn't leave at all, nowhere to go,
Speaker 1: so I wrapped it out the whole time here. Just
Speaker 1: spend a lot of time at home with my cat. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Any new? What's new? New hobbies? New, new desires? New
Speaker 1: I wanted to learn. I picked up a lot of
Speaker 1: half hobbies over the pandemic. But two I didn't get
Speaker 1: to is I wanted to learn the banjo didn't happen.
Speaker 1: But there's still time. And then I think I'm going
Speaker 1: to get a worm farm. Yeah, worm farm? Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: I have a garage, like a dark garage I can close,
Speaker 1: but I wouldn't have to keep it in my house.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I want like a red wiggler warm farm.
Speaker 1: What's that? It's just a farm. It's like a box
Speaker 1: of worms that hang out and they eat your leftovers
Speaker 1: and they make like really nutrient rich soil for your
Speaker 1: house plants, right right? And then was it like an
Speaker 1: ant farm where like you can kind of watch them,
Speaker 1: like you can watch from the top, but they need
Speaker 1: like they live like in the dirt. They have you
Speaker 1: heard of these things? Miles? Worms? I don't even really
Speaker 1: know if are worms. Bugs are worms? Bugs? Right? I
Speaker 1: think they're actually vegetables because they don't have seeds. If
Speaker 1: my understanding is correct, I mean invertebrates at best. Take crustaceans. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they got no exo skeleton. Yeah no, And that's what
Speaker 1: people come to hear the show for science show. I
Speaker 1: was in a writer's room once and I told everybody
Speaker 1: the ducks were mammals. And I didn't hear the end
Speaker 1: of it for like two weeks. What did you have
Speaker 1: like a nickname because of it? No? They would just
Speaker 1: keep bringing it up and I'd be like, listen, guys,
Speaker 1: I was addicted to whip us in high school. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna I'm not bringing like brain power to the table.
Speaker 1: I'm just a fun personality. Start talking, bangs, then then
Speaker 1: we can start talking. Yeah, exactly. Duck's kind of arm
Speaker 1: and almost like from an impressionistic standpoint, they've got like,
Speaker 1: there's some mammals, there's some mammal ass birds for sure,
Speaker 1: they've got mammal vibes. Wait, why do you think it
Speaker 1: has a what what's mammal vibe about it? To me?
Speaker 1: It's so clearly a bird, But what I don't know
Speaker 1: what it is about it, Like they just like they
Speaker 1: I feel like they have for they just I'm not
Speaker 1: like they just seem like chill around the swamp. How
Speaker 1: do you feel about a swan? Yeah, that's that might. Okay,
Speaker 1: so we're thinking anything like a bird that is like
Speaker 1: more sort of unique, Like the bill is a little
Speaker 1: bit different. It's not like a flying tweetie type bird
Speaker 1: than you feel like warm blooded thing when I think
Speaker 1: of like snakes or alligators and like, okay, cold blooded
Speaker 1: that's whatever the opposite. That's a bird, a bird, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. That's a bird than birds. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know something about like duck boots and like yeah,
Speaker 1: something about that all just makes yeah, like they're they're
Speaker 1: too associated with l L BE and to be not
Speaker 1: mammals in my brain. But what is a duck boot
Speaker 1: that that's giving you all this? Like, Okay, China's up
Speaker 1: the station and I think I'm catching the next one.
Speaker 1: Now this is gonna be the episode Miles. We're just
Speaker 1: right right, duck face, those are mammals as far as
Speaker 1: I can tell they're because they're humans posing their face jackets.
Speaker 1: It's ducks are mammals anyway, is ellery. We're going to
Speaker 1: get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
Speaker 1: we're gonna tell our listeners a few of the things
Speaker 1: we're talking about. There was a Trump rally where they
Speaker 1: pledged allegiance to a flag from January six, so we'll
Speaker 1: talk about how that went. We're gonna talk about how
Speaker 1: power operates in two disparate stories. Adam Schefter, the NFL
Speaker 1: wos like the a lesser vote from a shittier league insider,
Speaker 1: NFL insider. Yeah. And then Alex Murdog I think is
Speaker 1: how we're pronouncing it was charged with hiding settlement money
Speaker 1: from the kids of the woman he may have murdered. Uh.
Speaker 1: He's the small town, big time attorney who has just
Speaker 1: generations of corruption and it's just it's just wild. Lift
Speaker 1: up the rock and see what's going on under there. Worms. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk big strike energy. We're gonna talk how
Speaker 1: the January six subpoena dodgers are entering what is termed
Speaker 1: in legal circles, the find out phase of the uh
Speaker 1: funk around and find out legal process. And I'm calling
Speaker 1: it today. We're talking about a medical condition where you
Speaker 1: have zero visual imagination. This is getting up there as
Speaker 1: the story I've introduced the most times, and uh, super
Speaker 1: producer Justin has had to cut it out of the
Speaker 1: intro the most times. We're not maybe you've all heard
Speaker 1: me introduce fifteen times, but we're gonna fucking talk about
Speaker 1: it today. You hear oh that plenty more. But first
Speaker 1: ellery we do like task our guests what is something
Speaker 1: from your search history? My most recent search is Hollywood
Speaker 1: Improv Food Menu. Okay, what's up with that? What's what? Well?
Speaker 1: I think it's oh no, that's not good. But it
Speaker 1: tells you that, like, I'm somebody that plans ahead, that
Speaker 1: I support live comedy and that I'm willing to spend
Speaker 1: like eighteen dollars on a hamburger when I live five
Speaker 1: minutes away. Wow, what's the best thing to eat there?
Speaker 1: I wouldn't recommend any of it, But have you just
Speaker 1: gone down the list to find the most tolerable offering? You?
Speaker 1: Basically I get they have an impossible burger that's serviceable.
Speaker 1: And then the last time I was there, the door
Speaker 1: guy let me finish his fries and so that was
Speaker 1: a nice free meal. Yeah. Nice if you're going to
Speaker 1: the trash can instead, definitely. Yeah. Or look, and I've
Speaker 1: said this for I'm I've thrown out fries and be like,
Speaker 1: you know what, Actually, I don't let me get back
Speaker 1: in there. If it's your personal trash can and it's
Speaker 1: in a container, it didn't touch any other trash and
Speaker 1: it's on top. Look, I'm all for it. I'm just
Speaker 1: being efficient. Like all these food service industry workers want
Speaker 1: to complain about unfair wages, but what they don't talk
Speaker 1: about is the free fries. That was the one thing
Speaker 1: that made my one very short lived waiting job bearable
Speaker 1: was that they had really good fries that I worked
Speaker 1: at a doughnut shop this summer and we got a
Speaker 1: new manager towards the end of my tenure there, and
Speaker 1: he yelled at me for eating the tader talts. Motherfucker. Yeah, like,
Speaker 1: why do you think I work here? Assholes? Well, also,
Speaker 1: I was making the tator talks. It's like, you do
Speaker 1: have to test them to see for as long as
Speaker 1: you're not eating them straight out the basket or something,
Speaker 1: you know they're not doing a health code violation scam
Speaker 1: them unless that's the thing is like ellery, please stop
Speaker 1: reaching into the deep fryer and just pulling out wrong
Speaker 1: with you get used to it. Your fingertips burned off,
Speaker 1: and then you stopped right right right, like you're in
Speaker 1: the Men in Black. I do wish any like somebody
Speaker 1: had told me at like as I was entering the
Speaker 1: workforce that like of the jobs exists so that somebody
Speaker 1: has the ability to like be mean to somebody else,
Speaker 1: like a manager has the ability to like feel little
Speaker 1: someone so they feel a little bit better, and that
Speaker 1: they're like always wrong. Because we were manager lists for
Speaker 1: this is sort of like a saga. But we were
Speaker 1: without a manager for quite a few months and everything
Speaker 1: was totally fine, and it really sort of exposed the
Speaker 1: fact that, like managers are mostly there for organizational stuff
Speaker 1: and to like make sure you're wearing your uniform. But
Speaker 1: we literally went like four minutes four months about a
Speaker 1: manager and nothing happened. Yeah, right, And they're like, well, no,
Speaker 1: I still need to add someone that I pay a
Speaker 1: lot more than that the rest of y'all to make
Speaker 1: sure this works despite the evidence that it's working without it. Well,
Speaker 1: we all it as soon as you high. Yeah, there
Speaker 1: you go, flex and that is the system working. You
Speaker 1: hire your manager that everybody quit, and you're like, this
Speaker 1: is a good manager. He really holds it down. You
Speaker 1: know what was a good donuts were you? Were you
Speaker 1: happy with the quality of donuts? Donuts rocked. I would
Speaker 1: eat a lot of donuts for sure. Yeah. I just
Speaker 1: saw that video on TikTok or that, like that Duncan
Speaker 1: worker who was showing how much donuts they throw it
Speaker 1: at the end of the day. Oh yeah, yeah, we've
Speaker 1: heard a lot of unfrosted donuts. But we were able
Speaker 1: to donate a few too, right right, right, And but
Speaker 1: like but when you see things like they're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's just so there's so much waste. There really is,
Speaker 1: and there are so many But I also used to
Speaker 1: work at Traitor Joe's and just to see this stuff
Speaker 1: that we would throw out and like not be able
Speaker 1: to donate because it was like sort of a liability
Speaker 1: for the company was really like one of the things
Speaker 1: that radicalized me for sure, right right, And you're like,
Speaker 1: because of some weird liability thing like this isn't expired,
Speaker 1: protect ourselves, just have to protect way we could ever. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then we would lock the dumps that we put
Speaker 1: padlocks on the dumpstairs back in. Yeah, it was crazy,
Speaker 1: throw it out and protect. Yeah, because they're so worried
Speaker 1: that somebody could suit, get sick and sue. You'd hope
Speaker 1: that at the very least there wouldn't be a law that, like,
Speaker 1: if you are at a point where you're eating out
Speaker 1: of the trash can, that couldn't be frivolous about suing somebody.
Speaker 1: But I don't know like that because that's all the worries. Like, dude,
Speaker 1: but it's slight. Ability think it's a cool system overall,
Speaker 1: very good people. Wait, so you work, yo? Do they
Speaker 1: make y'all say at Trader Joe's like to compliment the
Speaker 1: ship that people buy. I see those tweets now, and
Speaker 1: it's really funny to think about. But no, I think
Speaker 1: they just hired they First of all, I think that
Speaker 1: they hire really like somebody in a regular world would
Speaker 1: be really annoying. But do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like I worked with a lot of really annoying sort
Speaker 1: of like high personality people, But I genuinely think they
Speaker 1: just they look for people who are like good at
Speaker 1: small talk, friendly, you know, so it's sort of like
Speaker 1: they you know. Also, when I was working there, I
Speaker 1: had I had like I worked there actually with my mom,
Speaker 1: like through high school, and then I worked there through college,
Speaker 1: and it was like a little performance, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like you get it was sort of like
Speaker 1: doing stand up I like the customers expect that too interesting. Oh,
Speaker 1: so it's more of an energetic sort of thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's definitely an energy and also you're not a lot
Speaker 1: like I feel like that was one of the few jobs.
Speaker 1: If I was having like a somber day, customers really
Speaker 1: noticed because what's wrong? Oh there was this drilling outside
Speaker 1: my house, and I thought that was here reaction of that.
Speaker 1: It sounded like a plane going over. I was pretending
Speaker 1: to be a Trader Joe's. Yeah, but I feel like
Speaker 1: at that job specifically because like the tenor is so upbeat.
Speaker 1: Always if you have like a medium day, customers are
Speaker 1: really like smile more. Imagine like the thing that everybody
Speaker 1: loves to hear is, can you give us any of
Speaker 1: your Trader Joe's material from your like stand up days
Speaker 1: work in the Trader Joe's Mm hmmm. I can't even
Speaker 1: really remember it now. It's so far away, but there
Speaker 1: was a bunch of basically just yeah, dealing with customers
Speaker 1: was Also, there's sort of like a a rumor methos
Speaker 1: around Trader Joe's that it's like healthy food because there's
Speaker 1: bamboo paneling like in all the stores, but it's not. Yeah. Also,
Speaker 1: they're they're reduced guilt at least this was true when
Speaker 1: I was there. They're like reduced guilt meals. It's the
Speaker 1: same food, just less. Oh yeah, you get a smaller serving,
Speaker 1: but nothing is different about the recipe. That is a
Speaker 1: window behind the scenes, behind the curtain of Trader Joe's
Speaker 1: that you can only get from the Daily zike r
Speaker 1: R as we call it traitor or that's that's a
Speaker 1: good name for a podcast. We gotta do it because
Speaker 1: Trader Joe's that was I remember they were like one
Speaker 1: of the only brands that had a podcast for a
Speaker 1: long time. Yeah, they were like the Trader Joe's podcast
Speaker 1: where you just like go and listen to people talk
Speaker 1: about how fucking lit Trader joe'se is TJ's. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what is something you think is overrated? Er? So I
Speaker 1: have to I said, sweater weather kind of overrated? It's
Speaker 1: good for a week and then I'm like, I'm not
Speaker 1: into it. And then really original Halloween costumes I think
Speaker 1: are overrated because they're fun, but really really originally yes,
Speaker 1: exactly here is exactly what I think about it, because
Speaker 1: good ones are really good, but some of them are
Speaker 1: too niche, which means you're explaining yourself all night. And
Speaker 1: then we're we need to like normalize lazy Halloween costumes.
Speaker 1: We're all busy. I don't want to buy a bunch
Speaker 1: of stuff. You're never going to wear any of that
Speaker 1: ship again, No, no, absolutely not. I mean I like,
Speaker 1: the last time I really did it up for Halloween,
Speaker 1: I like my friend who has like a costume house.
Speaker 1: I was like, can I borrow like a holster? And
Speaker 1: like that was it. And then I was like, this
Speaker 1: is too much, This is too much effort. I remember
Speaker 1: when I could just put on a basketball uniform and
Speaker 1: just say I'm I'm basketball guy. Give me some candy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Hawoween costume industry so long way of getting to
Speaker 1: agreeing with you. But I had recently heard from somebody
Speaker 1: like that their friend is like this billionaire who just
Speaker 1: looks at various industries and it's like, oh, that is
Speaker 1: a thing that is like forty years old that nobody's refreshed.
Speaker 1: So they're the person behind the brand method because they
Speaker 1: looked at like those like soap and like the ship
Speaker 1: that you buy in the like house where section of
Speaker 1: grocery store and was like this all looks like ship
Speaker 1: and looks like it was designed in the seventies. And
Speaker 1: so ever since they told me that, I've been trying
Speaker 1: to think of, like what is the other thing that
Speaker 1: is that? And like Halloween costumes fucking suck man, They're
Speaker 1: like so bad, like Halloween costumes stores, Like what why
Speaker 1: is that that we that there seem to be more
Speaker 1: creative because I feel like we're kind of a lot
Speaker 1: of people like we get pigeonholed into like monsters, heroes,
Speaker 1: sexy stuff and like memes, and you should just be
Speaker 1: able to be like super esoteric with it, like maybe
Speaker 1: like to the point where you know you're saying ellery
Speaker 1: like if it's niche fuck explaining it to somebody's like
Speaker 1: it's halloween, you know what. I'm just sort of whatever
Speaker 1: the funk I want to If I und to where
Speaker 1: three sets of pajamas all at once, I'm gonna do that.
Speaker 1: Your pajamas, Sam. I do think it's one of the
Speaker 1: few industries where you really bump up against I p
Speaker 1: so like you're like, we've all seen those tweets that
Speaker 1: are like, instead of Wednesday atoms, it's like Monday Jones
Speaker 1: or something. Yeah, Blake from WREX was talking about on
Speaker 1: their show this is important that he found a costume
Speaker 1: that was his, like a wig and a like tie
Speaker 1: that like his uniform like from Workcoholics, and it was
Speaker 1: like lazy stoner guy from work blurk, lazy stoner guy
Speaker 1: from working so funny it would be awful of they
Speaker 1: just like roasted you just being like ugly, frizzy haired,
Speaker 1: Like yeah, look it's blurk from job Addict. I mean
Speaker 1: that's what they do. Absolutely. I think maybe that's just
Speaker 1: fun to your is getting wild like dancing the fine
Speaker 1: line of No, this is blurk from job Attics. Who's
Speaker 1: Blake from Workaholics. Maybe we need to see them. Wait
Speaker 1: the sweater weather thing though, explit because aren't you from
Speaker 1: the Northeast. Aren't you from New York? I am good
Speaker 1: memory and even there, like I sort of missed seasons,
Speaker 1: but there's nothing as uncomfortable to me is being cold.
Speaker 1: And then also I'll argue that like sweater weather, fall weather,
Speaker 1: you need like a sweater in the morning. By afternoon
Speaker 1: it's seventy five degrees and all of those layers don't
Speaker 1: make sense. And then as soon as the sun goes down,
Speaker 1: it's like forty. And so it's like you're experiencing like
Speaker 1: three different outfit needs in one day. Trying to address
Speaker 1: a kid for school like on like my son went
Speaker 1: to school today and like a heavy sweater and shorts
Speaker 1: because it's just like I don't know, and that's what
Speaker 1: it will be calling by the afternoon and you'll never
Speaker 1: see it again. It'll just get pulled off at school
Speaker 1: stay there. Plus, like in high school, like junior high stuff,
Speaker 1: I never brought a jacket to school use it was
Speaker 1: raining at most. Jacket that's such a teenage thing like
Speaker 1: in my life. Yeah, just being stupid because you're like whatever,
Speaker 1: like the morning will be called and then you'll get
Speaker 1: in the class and then by nutrition it's more bearable.
Speaker 1: And plus like I would always forget my jackets and
Speaker 1: class and then yet Harry something, Yeah, what do you
Speaker 1: a white kid from Massachusetts? When yeah, they they will
Speaker 1: walk outside in shorts and a T shirt and you're like, no,
Speaker 1: I do this is nothing in mass It's like we're
Speaker 1: in New York. We're like probably the same latitude. What
Speaker 1: is something you think is underrated? Mm hmm underrated. I
Speaker 1: have mid morning movies, like a like a ten am
Speaker 1: to an eleven am movie, like going to the movie,
Speaker 1: like going to the movie seeing like the first movie
Speaker 1: that you can that day, Like when I had movie
Speaker 1: pass Alright, I have the AMC pass now, but I
Speaker 1: would get so stoned and just see like the earliest
Speaker 1: movie I could, and I had the rest of the
Speaker 1: day to myself. It was like a perfect sort of morning.
Speaker 1: I'd like, bring a coffee in. Wow, like you're reading
Speaker 1: the paper. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I haven't. I don't think
Speaker 1: I've ever been to the first showing of like a film.
Speaker 1: I feel like I've been to a man like I
Speaker 1: think the earliest I've ever been in from like noon
Speaker 1: noon is operable, But it's so in the middle of
Speaker 1: the day that it like sort of takes a chunk out.
Speaker 1: I feel like doing it first thing. You have the
Speaker 1: rest of the day. It's all sort of like a
Speaker 1: slow wake up. So by the time you're back out
Speaker 1: the world is like on, that's with this job jack
Speaker 1: alone starting. I mean, it's definitely a luxury of the
Speaker 1: unemployed for sure. I can just change when we record.
Speaker 1: I want to start doing it too. That's something I
Speaker 1: want to do it too. It's meditative. I highly recommend it.
Speaker 1: Long Junehoe, like, you're the second person I've heard talking
Speaker 1: about like morning movies in the last week. He was
Speaker 1: talking about how he wakes up at five every morning
Speaker 1: and watches the movie which is of Parasite, wakes up
Speaker 1: like and watches one to two movies before his day
Speaker 1: starts interesting, which I'm like, man, that's like you always
Speaker 1: hear about people like waking up and like writing or
Speaker 1: like doing you know, something productive. I like the idea
Speaker 1: of just being like, no, this is my favorite thing
Speaker 1: in the world to do. So it's also it's also productive,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And for someone who's a filmmaker,
Speaker 1: it's probably incredibly stimulating and inspiring. Like just like if
Speaker 1: you're a musician, like you need to like you need
Speaker 1: to listen to other ship to be like, oh ship,
Speaker 1: now I'm getting fucking ideed so exactly. But I wonder
Speaker 1: how he chooses like does he just does he have
Speaker 1: like a list that he goes. I haven't seen senseless
Speaker 1: with Marlon Wayns and David Spade yet, love that we
Speaker 1: listen to like cinephiles talking that you realize that there's
Speaker 1: like you could keep watching great movies like from now
Speaker 1: until the time you died, and like many I kind
Speaker 1: of like imagine imagining watching him watch like what's the
Speaker 1: worst that could happen, like the Danny Davida, Martin Lawrence
Speaker 1: Cross every Yeah, he's like, I'm gonna I'm gonna steal that.
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. I like really bad movies, Like I love
Speaker 1: a bad movie. Yeah right, he's like parasite with Actually
Speaker 1: I got inspired after I watched the film of Joe's Apartment.
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break and we'll come
Speaker 1: back and uh talk about a story that we could
Speaker 1: have talked about the last time you were on ellery
Speaker 1: a Trump rally, have you guys, I read about this one?
Speaker 1: All right, Well, we'll be right back and we're back
Speaker 1: and Trump rallied with young Ken Yeah, Glenn duncan n Yeah,
Speaker 1: who is somebody he's printing for a governor in Virginia?
Speaker 1: Like I was gonna say but Miles, why don't you
Speaker 1: take it from here? Here we go. So the headline
Speaker 1: is all I know about this story. Okay, So Virginia
Speaker 1: they have a google natorial election coming and it's kind
Speaker 1: of probably our our first sort of solid indicator of
Speaker 1: how political candidates are going to fare in the Biden era,
Speaker 1: especially given like the flippy floppy like platform not being
Speaker 1: you know, voted into reality at all. And you know,
Speaker 1: while the California recall could have been consequential on a
Speaker 1: political level, and obviously for anyone who lives and lives
Speaker 1: in the state, California is just reliably blue on like Virginia.
Speaker 1: So they're like, no, this is this is going to
Speaker 1: give us a real kind of an eye into maybe
Speaker 1: what midterms look like or what Democrats are up against
Speaker 1: Republicans are up against. And Glenn Uncan is the Republican
Speaker 1: running against Terry mccauliffe, and he is like, you know,
Speaker 1: he's a businessman, he's mostly self funded, but he's also
Speaker 1: got you know, he's got some some people helping out,
Speaker 1: and he's running this like kind of campaign where he's
Speaker 1: having to half embrace Trump but can't go full Maga
Speaker 1: because suburban and independent voters, and so he's doing this
Speaker 1: like very like I'll talk about having voter integrity on
Speaker 1: my website, but not go full big lie ish all
Speaker 1: the time. Like he's just trying to have it every
Speaker 1: way possible. And there was a rally for him that
Speaker 1: was hosted by Steve Bannon on Wednesday, and Trump phoned
Speaker 1: in to like just fucking rant and rave. But the
Speaker 1: fucking thing kicked off with a pledge of allegiance that
Speaker 1: you know, they said, well, oh, this flag is special
Speaker 1: that we're going to pledge allegiance to. That was quote
Speaker 1: they said. Quote was carried at the peaceful rally with
Speaker 1: Donald J. Trump on January six. They all said their
Speaker 1: salute to their fucking whatever. And you can was smart
Speaker 1: enough to not show up at this thing. Apparently he's
Speaker 1: like he's like you was in the show, because I
Speaker 1: think a lot of people are like, yo, you're out
Speaker 1: of fucking They just prayed to the January six flag,
Speaker 1: Like is this what you want to tell your suburban voters?
Speaker 1: So then, you know, I think that made a lot
Speaker 1: of news, and like, you know, obviously mccauliffe is like,
Speaker 1: you're are you going to condemn this? But I doubt
Speaker 1: that's going to happen because he can't piss off the
Speaker 1: mega world. So yeah, it's just been a lot of
Speaker 1: interesting things happening. And then earlier in the day Wednesday,
Speaker 1: Trump put out this fucking weird statement. He keeps saying
Speaker 1: this ship about like how Republicans won't vote or shouldn't vote,
Speaker 1: like in the mid terms, or like they're not Oh
Speaker 1: you better watch other they're not going to vote. He
Speaker 1: said this is in a statement he made because he
Speaker 1: doesn't have to letter. Quote, if we don't solve the
Speaker 1: presidential election for out of which we have thoroughly and
Speaker 1: conclusively documented and as an aside, which has been thoroughly
Speaker 1: inconclusively debunked, quote, Republicans will not be voting in twenty
Speaker 1: two or twenty four. It is the single most important
Speaker 1: thing for Republicans to do. Okay, then don't vote, I
Speaker 1: mean really mixed messaging on that. Yeah, it's that's what
Speaker 1: I'm like. I don't know what the problem this exactly
Speaker 1: solved for him, unless the plan is to completely get
Speaker 1: the GOP in the base off of the idea that
Speaker 1: voting is a concept that is an objective good. I
Speaker 1: mean I think that that is sort of a false
Speaker 1: premise because it anticipates that he's playing for Chas and
Speaker 1: has some plan, and it is entirely possible that he
Speaker 1: just doesn't know how to make a He's like not
Speaker 1: thinking about what that message actually means. Right, But so
Speaker 1: that's I'm like, I don't know, because I mean increasingly right.
Speaker 1: But with all the voter restriction, if you can get
Speaker 1: at least half of the country say like, well, votes
Speaker 1: don't really matter, then when half, when the other half
Speaker 1: is saying the election was stolen, it's less of a
Speaker 1: powerful statement to them, maybe just for their own perception.
Speaker 1: It's like it's an easier sell. Yeah, because then half
Speaker 1: you like, dude, vote just fucking rigged anyway, and just
Speaker 1: get over it. Trump's the winner, man, shut up. I mean,
Speaker 1: may be true, but if if they sit out as
Speaker 1: a demographic, it would really hurt the party. Yeah, which
Speaker 1: is that's I'm like, or again, like to your point,
Speaker 1: if he's not playing for dy Chaise, he's just dumb
Speaker 1: and he thinks of voting like it's a Nike store
Speaker 1: and you could just boycott the ship until you get
Speaker 1: what you want. I mean, that didn't do you remember
Speaker 1: when Nike was a company and then they supported Colin Kaepernick.
Speaker 1: And now I mean those people cut up their socks
Speaker 1: and yeah, and now I got Dr Dre and Eminem
Speaker 1: and Mary J. Blige is doing the fucking halftime show
Speaker 1: for God Knows Wife. But just how quick people change
Speaker 1: on that ship? Right? I thought people had caps back,
Speaker 1: but guess not. This reminds me of this story about
Speaker 1: like that there was a anti vax mob that stormed
Speaker 1: a hospital like because of these like fascist leaders. It
Speaker 1: was in Rome, though, and like over there they these
Speaker 1: people are in a separate party, and like that party
Speaker 1: doesn't have power, and I just feel like there we're
Speaker 1: at a point where, you know, like he would in
Speaker 1: any other system that wasn't like forcing everything into this
Speaker 1: like two party situation, Like he would be his own party,
Speaker 1: and like there's just that the ship can't hold. Like
Speaker 1: there there's just two many like different directions that the
Speaker 1: party wants to go. I think they're ultimately going to
Speaker 1: follow him, which is the scary part. But like that
Speaker 1: that's why the two party system is so scary, is
Speaker 1: because like he has the energy behind him, and so
Speaker 1: like they're just all gonna fucking vow They're gonna pledged
Speaker 1: to the this January six flag and they're gonna nod
Speaker 1: to the old fashioned salute that kids used to do
Speaker 1: to the flag during the pledge in uh classrooms. Have
Speaker 1: you ever seen that picture of like the kids they're
Speaker 1: they're all doing the Nazi salute to the American flag
Speaker 1: like before nazis worth a thing. That's how people used
Speaker 1: to say the pledge, don't give them fucking ideas, like well,
Speaker 1: actually we were doing that before the Nazis, right, yea yeah. Um.
Speaker 1: Two things. Firstly, fledging allegiance is one of those things
Speaker 1: like specifically like a campaign rally or something that if
Speaker 1: anybody on the right saw it in North Korea, they'd
Speaker 1: be like indoctrination. That's crazy. And then secondly, did you
Speaker 1: see the video of the dude from smash Mouth doing
Speaker 1: the Nazi salute on like out of concert? It was
Speaker 1: it was like this week it was where you should
Speaker 1: look it up? Is that why he's leaving the band?
Speaker 1: Is he leaving the band? Yeah? Yeah, he's leaving and
Speaker 1: he looks forward to being a smash Mouth fan, a
Speaker 1: fan of the band just from the sudlines going. So
Speaker 1: that thought must be why because that video just went
Speaker 1: viral like last weekend. Oh that makes sense because yeah,
Speaker 1: after chaot he retires after chaotic on stage range. As
Speaker 1: the New York Post describes it, you committally how the
Speaker 1: Post would put it. What was he saying as he
Speaker 1: was doing the Nazi salute? I don't know. I was
Speaker 1: listening to it on mute. I wasn't interested in hearing
Speaker 1: anything music. That's a very good point, as good mental
Speaker 1: health care. There's so many good videos of that guy.
Speaker 1: The video, taken by a patron of the festival, shows
Speaker 1: Hardwall slurring his speech and forgetting lyrics during the band's performance,
Speaker 1: dropping a beer can into the crowd, raising two middle
Speaker 1: fingers into the air, and at one point displaying what
Speaker 1: appears to be a Nazi salute. Quol I'll fucking kill
Speaker 1: your whole family. I swear to God, are Well appears
Speaker 1: to yell at one member of the audience later in
Speaker 1: the set, I mean we've seen we've seen this behavior
Speaker 1: from him before when they were throwing bread at smash Mouth.
Speaker 1: And it's an amazing video if you can find it.
Speaker 1: Because he leaves the stage while the band is the
Speaker 1: band has already started riffing the beginning of All Star,
Speaker 1: but he like leaves the stage to go fight this
Speaker 1: person for throwing bread and they're just they're like, as
Speaker 1: you hear he's still on Mike be like fuck you man,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna kick your ass, like I'm gonna kill you
Speaker 1: for like three minutes while the band is just like,
Speaker 1: don't let's take it one more time, and then it
Speaker 1: ends with him getting back on stage. Somebody. It's so funny,
Speaker 1: you know, it's so wild. Salute to Christie a'magucci. Main
Speaker 1: because in this article our meeting, they have a tweet
Speaker 1: of his in the fucking article. Wow, because he tweeted
Speaker 1: something but he said, I cannot wait to see smash
Speaker 1: Mouth now and I think it's of the video of
Speaker 1: the ship going down. So look, Yeah, because a great
Speaker 1: Christie a'magucci man covering the big stories, that's yeah, that's wild. Alright,
Speaker 1: let's let's do a quick overview of how power operates.
Speaker 1: We like to like to check in with just how
Speaker 1: these things work in the United States, and so I
Speaker 1: have these two different stories, but I think are both
Speaker 1: revealing about different ways that operates. So first we got
Speaker 1: Adam Schefter, who has become like the ESPN is like
Speaker 1: star NFL reporters, basically the woes of less interesting, more
Speaker 1: fucked up sport. But like he, he knows the inside
Speaker 1: information about what's going to happen before it happens, and apparently,
Speaker 1: how do you get that? How do you get that?
Speaker 1: So to do that, he had to earn the trust
Speaker 1: of the people who have the power, which in the
Speaker 1: case of the NFL are the owners and front officers.
Speaker 1: And so one of the revelations from the Washington Football
Speaker 1: Team email dump that ended up with on Gruden being
Speaker 1: revealed to be just like the dumbest, most racist, homophobic
Speaker 1: bully and resigning is that Schefter was clearing stories with
Speaker 1: the Washington Football Team front office before publishing them, asking
Speaker 1: them to let him know what he needed to like edit, tweak,
Speaker 1: or change. I think that's a direct quote, and cheekily
Speaker 1: in like a asked, cheek kissing way, referring to the
Speaker 1: people who control the Washing Football Team as Mr Editor,
Speaker 1: He's like, just let me know what you need, Mr Editor,
Speaker 1: before publishing story destroy reality to your benefits, sir. Yes.
Speaker 1: And this was a story from two thousand eleven about
Speaker 1: a labor dispute between the players and the owner. So
Speaker 1: it's yeah, he's just doing you know. This is how
Speaker 1: a lot of media works though, and I think is
Speaker 1: like kind of an underrepresented way that our you know,
Speaker 1: system breaks down. Is that like to get access to
Speaker 1: the important stories, you have to like earn the trust
Speaker 1: of the powerful people who are you know, influencing those stories,
Speaker 1: and then you end up fucking telling the story that
Speaker 1: they want you to tell, right, So, man, Dan Snyder,
Speaker 1: because that's like this was so that this story about
Speaker 1: the labor dispute that's obviously before it was like, oh
Speaker 1: look how this team was being run. Yeah. Yeah, there
Speaker 1: was a story about Dan Snyder that came out like
Speaker 1: last summer, two summers ago, and it was sort of
Speaker 1: like an indictment of both him and like the inner
Speaker 1: workings of the team, specifically as it relates to I
Speaker 1: believe cheerleaders and like women in the ranks. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think they were. I think there's I don't know if
Speaker 1: this is like fully fleshed out in the reporting, but
Speaker 1: I think their reports that they were taking videos of
Speaker 1: them like on the team cruise ship, like undressing without
Speaker 1: their knowledge and then so Schefter is and then Chefter
Speaker 1: carries water from them like their ESPN's main NFL reporters, Hi,
Speaker 1: would you ta to edit anything from that? Yeah? Do you? Oh?
Speaker 1: Cut that out? Got it? K K, thank you? And
Speaker 1: then this other story unrelated but I think also kind
Speaker 1: of reveals a detail of how power operates. It is
Speaker 1: just this Alex Murdog, the Murdog family. This is like
Speaker 1: the old fashioned type of power corrupting that we've seen
Speaker 1: in movies since movies were a thing, Like the big
Speaker 1: Fish in a small pond. They were a legal powerhouse
Speaker 1: family and like they were apparently just literally able to
Speaker 1: get away with murder for a long time. But yeah,
Speaker 1: so I was this the one where the like the
Speaker 1: sun killed a kid and then the dad him died.
Speaker 1: Yeah that was before I was like viewing the news
Speaker 1: critically for living. There was like a part of me
Speaker 1: that assumed that ship like this was like too blatantly
Speaker 1: corrupt and bold actually like still go on, and that
Speaker 1: it was just like, well come on, there's like it's
Speaker 1: not like somebody would just be like the evil overlord
Speaker 1: of a town and just like kill people and be
Speaker 1: like I can buy my way out of anything. And
Speaker 1: the truth is yeah, cut, yeah, feudalism still exists, Like
Speaker 1: the tenants of it, and we're constantly trying to reinvent
Speaker 1: it for people. But like, yeah, it's so clear although
Speaker 1: it is true that you sort of want to think
Speaker 1: that things like that are are too ridiculous to be true,
Speaker 1: and then you sort of realize that, like, no, it
Speaker 1: just is happening in the open people. I think about
Speaker 1: this a lot with specifically like Save the Children movement
Speaker 1: and like the qut On stuff. It's like, there's not
Speaker 1: a secret pedophiles. They're they're operating pretty openly and they're
Speaker 1: not scared of retribution because they're rich. So one thing
Speaker 1: Elver you should know is that since you were last on,
Speaker 1: we did become a qu on podcast. Unfortunately we do.
Speaker 1: We do hashtag save the Children, have Children, hashtag where
Speaker 1: we a one? We all, But just to catch up
Speaker 1: anybody who like wasn't listening to the last time we
Speaker 1: cover the Murdah thing. They were like a generation's long
Speaker 1: dynasty of like legal power in South Carolina. Things started
Speaker 1: to unravel for them when one of their boys, like
Speaker 1: a high school student, got drunk and killed a young
Speaker 1: like pretty white girl. So the news was paying attention
Speaker 1: in a boating accident. They decided to cover it up,
Speaker 1: like not in any like careful way. They were just
Speaker 1: like the way it came out was the police had
Speaker 1: like this dash cam footage from the night of it happening,
Speaker 1: and there's like one of the witnesses in the car
Speaker 1: being like, uh, they like he just clearly like killed
Speaker 1: somebody and he's going to get away with it because
Speaker 1: he's part of the Murdoch family and like, you guys
Speaker 1: aren't gonna do ship. And then like years later the
Speaker 1: police hadn't done ship, and then that footage came out.
Speaker 1: But when it started to seem like some combination of
Speaker 1: the scrutiny on that kid and his mom becoming like
Speaker 1: unloyal to the overall like family patriarch side of the
Speaker 1: family was going to like put a spotlight on the family,
Speaker 1: suddenly that kid and the mom both showed up murdered
Speaker 1: on their own farm. And then we found out there
Speaker 1: have been two suspicious murders around that same farm, one
Speaker 1: with a guy being found with his brains blown out
Speaker 1: on the side of the road and having the ruling
Speaker 1: change from shot in the head execution style obviously to
Speaker 1: vehicular hit and run by the police. Uh. Somehow they
Speaker 1: were like, oh yeah, you got clipped with the mirror man.
Speaker 1: It was you know, hops all the time. And then
Speaker 1: the other with their housekeeper dying mysteriously while working at
Speaker 1: their house from a quote fault and they just immediately
Speaker 1: put her underground without a autopsy because so the yeah
Speaker 1: he was hit by a Ford Mustang bullet. Honestly, sort
Speaker 1: of chap equittic vibes with the kid like right now,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, chap aquittic if like the Kennedy's were only
Speaker 1: locally famous and could have gotten away with whatever the
Speaker 1: funk they wanted. Honestly, what really pisses me off as
Speaker 1: the housekeeper, because I'm like, if you want to kill
Speaker 1: each other inside the family, whatever I don't, don't bring like,
Speaker 1: don't bring late your labor into it. That's not fair. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the people who are murdering undisturbed to cover up their
Speaker 1: own crime, that was a bridge too far, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So the latest charges come from the
Speaker 1: patriarch of the family, so he basically conspired with the
Speaker 1: housekeepers kids to be like, you know, I can buy
Speaker 1: my way out of anything here. I will fix it
Speaker 1: so that you get a legal settlement through insurance. Because
Speaker 1: I'm so like, legally powerful, you're gonna get five hundred
Speaker 1: thousand dollars. They were not in a position to say
Speaker 1: no to five hundred thousand dollars. Isn't at four point
Speaker 1: three million though in total? Okay, yeah, was in the millions.
Speaker 1: Then none of us are in the positions they're not
Speaker 1: a a four point through millions things. You know that
Speaker 1: each of them only got a million, like after taxes
Speaker 1: and fees and yeah, except the thing is he did
Speaker 1: that was like I could buy my way out anything.
Speaker 1: Here you go, I'm gonna pay you this didn't pay
Speaker 1: it to them, stole that money that he was supposed
Speaker 1: to give them because he just has absolute power. And
Speaker 1: I was like, what the fund are they going to do?
Speaker 1: And then you know, so that is the charge that
Speaker 1: he's getting hit with right now, is stealing money that
Speaker 1: was meant for like paying off the children of somebody
Speaker 1: he had probably murdered. As the legal case like continues
Speaker 1: to go on. But I feel like that's another feature
Speaker 1: of power and the conspiracies that we keep seeing kind
Speaker 1: of come out in the light of days. Like, first
Speaker 1: of all, it's not that these are the exceptions to
Speaker 1: the rule. It's that them getting uncovered because like somebody
Speaker 1: like this guy got addicted to oxy and became really
Speaker 1: like desperate and sloppy, and his kid was you know, killed,
Speaker 1: somebody who the media happened to care about. But like,
Speaker 1: this is just a thing that is going on. This
Speaker 1: is status quo in America, and it coming to our
Speaker 1: attention is the exception. And then also just like how
Speaker 1: fucking bad they are, Like we saw this with Trump,
Speaker 1: who has just been like steeping in a hot pot
Speaker 1: of like privilege his entire life and like trying to
Speaker 1: pull scams and it's just like, what what the fund
Speaker 1: are you even trying to do? Like it's not clear
Speaker 1: how you're trying to get away with us. Well yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, but I think it just says like there
Speaker 1: are people who still have this mindset where they come
Speaker 1: from a time where it was truly all gas, no breaks,
Speaker 1: because your whiteness and wealth were able to any sense. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so now it's just like, well, what the fund is this? Yeah,
Speaker 1: like no, no, this is not how, this is not
Speaker 1: how my dad did it. What the funk are we doing?
Speaker 1: And I think you're seeing a lot of this carry
Speaker 1: over generationally where now these people like surprised, like genuinely shocked.
Speaker 1: And I think that's why it's so blatant too, because
Speaker 1: they're looking they've only seen generational examples of yeah, you
Speaker 1: can get away with this ship. Yeah. The key when
Speaker 1: he tried to cover like throw the stink off himself
Speaker 1: for murdering his wife and kid and housekeeper and random
Speaker 1: guy found on the side of the road the way
Speaker 1: he did it was hired his oxy dealer to shoot
Speaker 1: him in the head, but gray's him and and then
Speaker 1: be like, I don't know the killer is that out there?
Speaker 1: And he tried to shoot me? And then like they
Speaker 1: immediately realized like he had hired somebody to do that,
Speaker 1: and it's still being covered as like he did it
Speaker 1: as part of an insurance scheme. It's like, no, he
Speaker 1: did it because he's like guilty of all these other things.
Speaker 1: But yeah, also, somebody addicted to doxy is not who
Speaker 1: I would pick to a very good like shoot up
Speaker 1: my face. But miss right, Well, he was the dealer,
Speaker 1: so he's a addict. But is he following the tent
Speaker 1: crack comyn say, I feel like every dealer is also
Speaker 1: partaking getting high on their own. Yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 1: And it's only the ones that really have their ship
Speaker 1: together that don't. And you're impressed, like, oh, that's why
Speaker 1: you've been able to sell cocaine this long. Okay, that
Speaker 1: makes sense. Yeah, you're like, I love this apartment building.
Speaker 1: I thought there was a waiting for this place downtown,
Speaker 1: so coke to the Caruso's. Wow, that would be a
Speaker 1: good gig. Can you imagine there probably is someone like that, right,
Speaker 1: It's like they give the Carusos all these drugs and
Speaker 1: they keep them. They're like, yeah, wherever you need. We're
Speaker 1: talking about Cruso, right, yea Laker player, No, not the
Speaker 1: not the fans overly powerful real estate developer who runs
Speaker 1: l A. That guy's definitely has a cocaine dealer, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's in a sick, sick apartment. All right, let's take
Speaker 1: a quick break and we'll come back and talk about
Speaker 1: big strike energy. And we're back, and they're they're starting
Speaker 1: to be some some strikes around around the country starting
Speaker 1: to be a little uh little momentum behind the labor.
Speaker 1: Over ten thousand John Deer workers went on strike on Wednesday,
Speaker 1: which is the largest private sector strikes since twenty nineteen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when you see that. When I read that line, I
Speaker 1: was like, oh man, since I was probably be like
Speaker 1: night the nineties and like No twenty nineteen, because things
Speaker 1: are if you look on a timeline, on an accelerated path,
Speaker 1: because inequality is on an accelerated path. And yeah, I
Speaker 1: think we've seen this through everything. You know, the pandemics
Speaker 1: has just made inequalities painfully clear for most everyone in
Speaker 1: this country. And as more workers withhold their labor for
Speaker 1: better pay and benefits, companies are struggling to figure out
Speaker 1: how to stay greedy and have slave wages. It's I mean,
Speaker 1: how do you do it? I don't know. So we
Speaker 1: have all these strikes. In this instance, John Deer, employees
Speaker 1: are striking because can anyone guess? They want better wages
Speaker 1: and a fucking pension plan? That does huh? Who would
Speaker 1: have thought? And but the reasons have been same across
Speaker 1: the country. You know, companies are reporting the same. The
Speaker 1: same thing is happy companies have report record profits. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, we're record profits. And thanks to you all
Speaker 1: whose labor we extracted all this wealth from. Uh shout
Speaker 1: out to you, because you know, you guys are rock stars.
Speaker 1: I hope you guys are the rock stars who made
Speaker 1: this trip to space possible. Whoa, y'all are rock stars?
Speaker 1: Hand don't ask for less work or more pay you
Speaker 1: fucking cretan soap in one. Just to give an idea
Speaker 1: for John Deer. They fucking they They're set to profit
Speaker 1: nearly six billion dollars due to increase demand for their
Speaker 1: agricultural parts and equipment, and it's beating its past record
Speaker 1: by sixty three per cent. The CEO and was paid
Speaker 1: fifteen point six million dollars in compensation thanks to a
Speaker 1: baby shareholder value the stockers performing. Here's a little deal man.
Speaker 1: I mean, I was on that shareholders call that guy's
Speaker 1: got that guy's got it miles and locking him in
Speaker 1: for a mere fifteen mill I mean, oh my god.
Speaker 1: Stuff that is that those employees are only asking for
Speaker 1: like twenty cents more an hour by like they're not
Speaker 1: even asking for all that much. And we're right because
Speaker 1: they're you know, the the United Auto Workers Union who's
Speaker 1: representing them there, They were the ones who said no,
Speaker 1: this last thing that John Deere put in front of
Speaker 1: them absolute trash. And even if you just think of this, right,
Speaker 1: this fucking CEO made fifteen million dollars imagine if he said,
Speaker 1: you know what, I only need five million dollars this year.
Speaker 1: The other ten million for those ten thousand workers, he
Speaker 1: could have cut them a thousand dollar check each more
Speaker 1: even more crazy. I'm just saying narrowly, if you want
Speaker 1: to be with the most greedy version, right, it's like, well,
Speaker 1: we're not gonna touch what the corporate profits are. I'll
Speaker 1: say for me as a CEO, you can take this
Speaker 1: out of my piece. I don't need fifteen Come on now,
Speaker 1: five is five? Is fine? The ten for y'all the
Speaker 1: people who I acknowledge that off of your fucking blood,
Speaker 1: sweat and tears and your backs and oddies being broken
Speaker 1: and put being put to work all the time, that's
Speaker 1: why I have this ship. But you know, I think
Speaker 1: the at the end of the day, it isn't just
Speaker 1: this industry or just a specific region of the country.
Speaker 1: You got the Kellogg serial factory workers went on strike
Speaker 1: to end a two tier benefit system they had. Friedo
Speaker 1: Lane Nabisco went on strike earlier this summer and fucking
Speaker 1: Ayazia on Monday. Ship could go down and you're gonna
Speaker 1: have sixty thousand Hollywood film crew people who work in
Speaker 1: production we're gonna go on strike, because again, people see
Speaker 1: the same ship going around, and no matter what your
Speaker 1: job is, you have probably say seen the same thing.
Speaker 1: You get paid fuck all, and you watch your managers
Speaker 1: or superiors or the leadership of a company living in
Speaker 1: a completely different financial reality and then fucking condescend and
Speaker 1: patronize you with like all these just like empty platitudes
Speaker 1: about like gratitude for what you've done, and they're like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, d got a sicks, like we shattered our
Speaker 1: revenue goals. I mean, I think two things. I think Firstly,
Speaker 1: people managers, specifically higher ups are so far removed from
Speaker 1: the realities of labor that they can no longer even
Speaker 1: imagine what it's like to be living at fifteen dollars
Speaker 1: or less an hour, not even touching what it means
Speaker 1: to physically be the labor. And then suddenly, did you
Speaker 1: see the tweet that I put out today where they
Speaker 1: have been hearing reports because productions know that a strike
Speaker 1: is coming, they are forcing onto their crew members extra
Speaker 1: seventh day and sixth day like like they're trying to
Speaker 1: get to try and faminate before the strike, so they're
Speaker 1: breaking more labor laws to get ready for the strike,
Speaker 1: which is like such a bad fit. It's like, let's
Speaker 1: let's get this in while we can still do it,
Speaker 1: Like you might as well just strike now. I mean,
Speaker 1: from where I'm standing, I am like shocked that workers
Speaker 1: haven't turned to like violence and like Molotov cocktails, because
Speaker 1: it's like and and truly what I think it is.
Speaker 1: And I think about this a lot, like a general
Speaker 1: strike would never be possible in America because we don't
Speaker 1: have the network of mutual aid to support laborers who
Speaker 1: would not be able to go into work. And so
Speaker 1: and another thing I heard about Ayotsy is that one
Speaker 1: of my friends who's in AOSSI told me that they
Speaker 1: had been talking about how some productions are reaching out
Speaker 1: to college students to get them to scab, like college
Speaker 1: film students here, and those kids don't know that if
Speaker 1: they are scabs, that means they can't join the union
Speaker 1: when they're ready, right, yeah, that's yeah. And look, so again,
Speaker 1: it's always rearing its ugly head, even if it's saying like, oh,
Speaker 1: I guess we have to deal with these people in
Speaker 1: good faith, will also try and exploit even further until
Speaker 1: the wheels quite literally fall off, which to show you
Speaker 1: that it's it's almost never in good faith, like they
Speaker 1: don't actually like, if there's a dollar to be made,
Speaker 1: that will always be more important than humanity and safety. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think this is what's interesting too, is you
Speaker 1: know it's clear now workers are beginning to realize they
Speaker 1: have the leverage here or else we wouldn't see all
Speaker 1: these strikes. Absolutely, ten years ago, it was fucking forget about.
Speaker 1: But America used to be like a union country. Yeah, oh, absolutely,
Speaker 1: till till Reagan came along. Yeah, you know, but bustling
Speaker 1: ships up. And also yeah, Starbucks too. I believe they
Speaker 1: closed down two stores I think one in New York
Speaker 1: and another one of Touch of Ing because because they
Speaker 1: were that's not legal, is it. I think I think
Speaker 1: they can just be like, I mean, sorry, guys, we
Speaker 1: just can't afford it, Like the overhead here is too high,
Speaker 1: and we were just talking about just like yeah it is,
Speaker 1: but what's this. I'm gonna say it was for operational efficiency.
Speaker 1: So many of those things are like let's say, for example,
Speaker 1: the op word crisis. All that ship was illegal, but
Speaker 1: it was legal with a fine, like if you can,
Speaker 1: if you can pay to apologize for it, you can
Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, And it also means that's a law
Speaker 1: for poor people, Yes exactly. I mean that's a lot
Speaker 1: for poor people. That's how you know, if it's a fine,
Speaker 1: it's only for poor people. In so many instances, it's
Speaker 1: their offenses that could be prisonable, jailable and whatever. We
Speaker 1: can get into how nobody should go to prison, but
Speaker 1: for really which rich people, they never see jail time.
Speaker 1: They just see fines. Yeah, and that's that's nothing. So
Speaker 1: that's baked in. I mean, that's like legal liability is
Speaker 1: baked into the to their calculus. There's that book The
Speaker 1: Corporation from two thousand three that is or I think
Speaker 1: it's from earlier, but the documentary came out in two
Speaker 1: thousand three. But it talks about how corporations like have
Speaker 1: legal rights as individuals, like they're they have the right
Speaker 1: to be treated as individuals. But when you look at
Speaker 1: how they behave, if an individual behaved that way, they
Speaker 1: would be you know, in prison and deemed a psychopath,
Speaker 1: like an actual like categorical like psychopath. Because have been
Speaker 1: on the record many times as being like, okay, so
Speaker 1: we discovered this manufacturing defect in this car, it's probably
Speaker 1: going to kill twelve thousand people. But but their suits
Speaker 1: like the limit to the like tort law or whatever
Speaker 1: whatever the funk it is like means that this is
Speaker 1: how much we stand to lose, and this is how
Speaker 1: much we would lose if we did a recall, and
Speaker 1: so we're going to go with just letting the people die,
Speaker 1: like because that's just how it's. Yeah, I mean, there
Speaker 1: is like an assignable price. I think the the u
Speaker 1: N once like got to a specific number, but there's
Speaker 1: like assignable prices to human lives, which is so intangible
Speaker 1: and so fucked up. But that's like capitalism, right, that's
Speaker 1: where we have to be at. And I just want
Speaker 1: to say, you know, like to that point of you
Speaker 1: know how general strike would not work, Like obviously this
Speaker 1: one works because they're in a union and the union
Speaker 1: is giving them, you know, I think two seventy five
Speaker 1: dollars a week for the for these John Deer employees
Speaker 1: to be able to withstand on a very small scale,
Speaker 1: the loss of income. But the other thing is, because
Speaker 1: there's so much leverage, you'd hope that more and more
Speaker 1: working people begin to understand that they are workers. Have
Speaker 1: just just unfathomable leverage at the moment, because all you
Speaker 1: see right now is from the business owning class through
Speaker 1: their friends on in media, they are terming this a
Speaker 1: labor shortage, right, And it's that perception which makes it
Speaker 1: just seem like, oh man, like people aren't working, rather
Speaker 1: than saying, you know, people are fed the funk up
Speaker 1: and they're getting organized and they're actually beginning to advocate
Speaker 1: for better outcomes for themselves in a way that they
Speaker 1: never have because the entire agreement has been fucked up,
Speaker 1: And so it's always through this very distorted langue. It's
Speaker 1: it's not a labor shortage until there are wage hikes,
Speaker 1: like until wages go up, it's not a true labor shortage.
Speaker 1: And I also had the is a very interesting take
Speaker 1: and I can't remember who it's from, but essentially they
Speaker 1: said that there are places who are say that they're hiring,
Speaker 1: but won't actually hire anybody because it cuts their overhead
Speaker 1: costs to have fewer people and run on a skeleton crew,
Speaker 1: but because of it might affect customer service and there
Speaker 1: for public opinion, they have to be like, we can't
Speaker 1: find anybody to work for us. Nobody wants to work anymore.
Speaker 1: But in reality they're like, fine, we'll run on a
Speaker 1: skeleton crew, pay them exactly as much as they were
Speaker 1: and make even more right, right, Yeah, we're who who
Speaker 1: was it who was talking about going into a bar
Speaker 1: that was like overrun and like just one person behind
Speaker 1: the I think Johnny yesterday, wasn't it. Johnny was, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he walked into a bar the bartender was like just
Speaker 1: you know, completely overwhelmed and turned doing just went Biden. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean I think that sums it up perfectly. That
Speaker 1: sums it up perfectly. And it's also like I don't
Speaker 1: I feel like I want to have like a group
Speaker 1: team meeting where I'm like, we need to rest the
Speaker 1: importance of like labor solidarity, because if you strike alone,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. But if you strike with your coworkers,
Speaker 1: now you have something that's really important. Absolutely, yeah, and
Speaker 1: that's why. Yeah. Or getting organized, I know, it's it's
Speaker 1: it comes in many different fashions, but like whether that's
Speaker 1: just getting the pulse of your coworkers and knowing where
Speaker 1: they're at and like what their needs are and wants
Speaker 1: are and be like, you know, if we get organized,
Speaker 1: we can say, look, we want this ship or even
Speaker 1: finding out how much everybody makes yeah, right exactly, which
Speaker 1: you'll see, and then the most insidious things you'll still
Speaker 1: see like it's illegal, but you'll see places to be
Speaker 1: like don't talk about your work. I've had that, don't
Speaker 1: have shot people were they literally told us that. They
Speaker 1: were like, don't talk about what you make back here,
Speaker 1: like that's not appropriate. There's some fun going exactly, and
Speaker 1: I was like, that's illegal, Like you can't tell me,
Speaker 1: you can't tell me. Wow. Oh. One question I had like,
Speaker 1: so if there is a if there's a strike going
Speaker 1: on in your local community, and like there are you know,
Speaker 1: people who need support, like community support, like just like
Speaker 1: are there food banks? Are They're like how people can
Speaker 1: just like hop in And so I'm actually pretty looped
Speaker 1: into this, at least in Los Angeles. I run a
Speaker 1: soup kitchen on Tuesdays in Korea Town. Lots of comedians
Speaker 1: come and volunteer because they've been unemployed for the last
Speaker 1: fifteen months. But I would say, specifically in Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: if you can donate, if you know anybody who is
Speaker 1: in the union who is striking, you can ask them
Speaker 1: specifically what they might need, and that would be good.
Speaker 1: But if you don't, you can donate to food banks.
Speaker 1: We have a huge network of community fridges which don't
Speaker 1: just need food, they also need people to go and
Speaker 1: clean up any boxes or remove any spoiled food. And
Speaker 1: then I would recommend getting involved with a mutual aid
Speaker 1: organization in your neighborhood. And that can look like a
Speaker 1: diaper bank, it can look like a food bank, it
Speaker 1: can look like any number of things. Water drops specifically
Speaker 1: in l A very important. So yeah, I would just
Speaker 1: say try to do hyperlocal. I'm something I've noticed with
Speaker 1: the pandemic. It's not like like for a long time
Speaker 1: I ate at my soup kitchen because like money was
Speaker 1: short for me too. It's all different types of people
Speaker 1: that face like food insecurity, or diaper insecurity, or like
Speaker 1: a big one we see is like menstrual product insecurity.
Speaker 1: So they're all these like sort of small necessities of
Speaker 1: daily life that as your bank account dwindles, those get
Speaker 1: harder took place, and so finding ways to fill in
Speaker 1: those gaps I think is like the number one thing
Speaker 1: that we can do to support like striking labor, Yeah awesome,
Speaker 1: And sometimes you'll see sometimes there will be strike funds yes,
Speaker 1: I think there will eventually. They'll definitely be an Niazi
Speaker 1: strike fund for sure, And that's one way if you're
Speaker 1: not maybe physically there, you can support with your money
Speaker 1: to support a strike fund that would then help striking.
Speaker 1: And I would argue that liquid cash is definitely the
Speaker 1: most important like thing, because you can't anticipate in individual's needs.
Speaker 1: Only they can. And some people are like, oh, I
Speaker 1: don't want to give out, you know, cash money, And
Speaker 1: I think that's the that's the number one way to
Speaker 1: help a person is to give them has liquid cash.
Speaker 1: But I need them to jump through this hoop where
Speaker 1: they apply for your job and then how do yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: People don't realize too how insidious means testing is to like,
Speaker 1: even I have friends who work in you know, blue municipalities,
Speaker 1: state governments where they bang their head against the wall
Speaker 1: with their other bureaucratic coworkers who they're like, yeah, we
Speaker 1: do need to address this and help these people who, like,
Speaker 1: you know, these people in this marginalized community do need better,
Speaker 1: Like we should allow them that we should give computers
Speaker 1: or something just to create better educational outcomes. And people
Speaker 1: are like, but how do we know that people are
Speaker 1: going to use them in the right way. I just
Speaker 1: feel like that, like I don't don't take that. First things, firstly,
Speaker 1: I would so much rather help somebody by accident than
Speaker 1: not help anybody, or like give somebody something that they
Speaker 1: don't actually need. And then secondly, or like the amount
Speaker 1: of like fraud that would have to happen for me
Speaker 1: to care about it would have to be and that's
Speaker 1: not happen. It's going to be like one if that.
Speaker 1: And then secondly the wealthy yes. And then also something
Speaker 1: I've like noticed is like the amount of self policing
Speaker 1: that we do, like people police like the community bridges
Speaker 1: and being like, oh, like I saw this person take
Speaker 1: that thing, shut up, shut up? Yeah, I'm sorry. Did
Speaker 1: you did you? Did you have a need for this? Yeah?
Speaker 1: All things for everybody. I don't like, we don't care
Speaker 1: what people take, We don't care what they leave. We
Speaker 1: just care that they respect the space. Right. That's that's
Speaker 1: so funny, because it's not funny, But it's just like
Speaker 1: I have a five year three year old and like
Speaker 1: they are obsessed with what the other one is getting,
Speaker 1: Like they don't care what they get as long as
Speaker 1: the other one doesn't get shipped like they just like
Speaker 1: want I don't know that that just feels like it's
Speaker 1: like a very like deeply human thing where people like, wait,
Speaker 1: what did they do? Childish but it has to be
Speaker 1: like yes, unlearned or it's like something you actively have
Speaker 1: to work against. Yeah, yeah, yeah that yeah, you don't.
Speaker 1: If you have a scarcity mentality, then the world is
Speaker 1: sucking awful and there's no need to help anyone because
Speaker 1: everything's fucked. But the fact is there is a lot,
Speaker 1: there's abundance out there. It's just it's been untapped in
Speaker 1: a lot of ways, whether that's people not paying their
Speaker 1: taxes or the fact that we've tremendous food waste or
Speaker 1: other things like. There are many ways to actually, you know,
Speaker 1: approach these things, but it's I think some you know,
Speaker 1: it's the imagination part. And I think this is a
Speaker 1: good thing about the big strikes going on. People are
Speaker 1: beginning to get the imagination. M hmm. Yeah. Children are monsters.
Speaker 1: They have to have it drop out of them just
Speaker 1: by nature. There's so much wild ship in there. Yeah, yo,
Speaker 1: what about that thing you do? Like if you have
Speaker 1: like siblings or cousins and you're like you you you're
Speaker 1: bring in like a plate of food and like which
Speaker 1: one was heavier? Like, no, I'm gonna get that one.
Speaker 1: You know which bag is everywhere of this take out?
Speaker 1: Which one is big? All right? Well, once again, and
Speaker 1: we're not going to have time to get to the
Speaker 1: zero visual imagination thing. But that is I think that's
Speaker 1: what it should be, is just a story that's out there,
Speaker 1: that's off in the distance that we can always aspire
Speaker 1: to get to. But there's just too much good ship
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Speaker 1: media you've been enjoying? Yeah? I have a tweet today
Speaker 1: and I picked it out not knowing what we would
Speaker 1: talk about when now it seems really fitting. So it's
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Speaker 1: can people find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying?
Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles
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Speaker 1: First one is from Matt Underscore Johnson. He said, my
Speaker 1: students are so young that if I yelled the roof
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