Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two oh three,
Speaker 1: Episode two of the Connection of I Heart Radio. This
Speaker 1: is a podcast where we take a deep dive into
Speaker 1: America's share consciousness. It's Wednesday, September twenty twenty. Woman names
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Speaker 1: you're infected. I can't be too late to say that
Speaker 1: it was the vaccine. That's courtesy of Johnny Davis little
Speaker 1: I'm all out of love, out of come. Yes, the
Speaker 1: original lyrics, and I'm thrilled to be joined as always
Speaker 1: by my co host, Mr Miles grad Let's blaze and
Speaker 1: then discuss some trends you live in in the doc boy,
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Speaker 1: keep them coming, you know, just keep him coming. But
Speaker 1: thank you for that one. It got me. The reason
Speaker 1: to which Montera song is that? Is that Montero? That's
Speaker 1: a song Montero Call Me by Your Name? Is that
Speaker 1: called Montero? Is It's like one of those songs where
Speaker 1: I know, isn't that what it's called? There's a parenthetical involved,
Speaker 1: It's a whole It's Montero parenthetical call Me by your Name?
Speaker 1: There you go, Okay, okay, you know. So we're all right,
Speaker 1: we're all got children. Well, Miles, we're thrilled to be
Speaker 1: joined in our third seat by one of the very
Speaker 1: chases on Mount to Night More. She's a hilarious comedian
Speaker 1: and Emmy nominated writer, all around brilliant artist who co
Speaker 1: hosts the Beckdel Cast and hosts and created the podcast
Speaker 1: My Year, mensa Lolita Podcast and Action Cast, which digs
Speaker 1: into the cultural history and legacy of the Kathy comics.
Speaker 1: She is the brilliant, the talented Jamie. Wake up in
Speaker 1: the morning, feeling slightly giddy, Pack up, sunny and sleet.
Speaker 1: We're about to hit this city. Before I leave, grabbed
Speaker 1: my wallet and a couple of toms, because when I
Speaker 1: leave for hot dogs, I'm gonna have some yum. I'm
Speaker 1: done talking about then near as near as no time
Speaker 1: for ice cleariners eaners, because this is a number of
Speaker 1: Wieners Weeners, So I stop. Keep those buns up all Chris,
Speaker 1: the Hamburgers can miss me. I want those furthers grew
Speaker 1: on top onions, chopped mustard and that catch ups up
Speaker 1: bellish if you wish, talking hot tugs like guys, that
Speaker 1: was so long that from Uncle brew at the underscore
Speaker 1: brew brew there contributor really brought the heat today. I
Speaker 1: hope I did it just means Weeners. I thought you were.
Speaker 1: I thought there's gonna be like our hockey. I thought
Speaker 1: it would be a hockey reference to going Tweeners. But
Speaker 1: I was projecting. I was like, oh, maybe some some
Speaker 1: new England hockey lord interject there, but oh no, no, uh,
Speaker 1: summer of Wieners, Wieners, how's that been? How did the
Speaker 1: summer of Winers treat you? Oh? It was, it was good.
Speaker 1: My body is, I would say, basically recovered. And I
Speaker 1: have to kind of jump in for round two soon.
Speaker 1: For people who don't know what we're talking about, trying
Speaker 1: to say, like, how's the summer of Wieners. How's um, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've just been having a ton of sex. No, I
Speaker 1: um have been working on a book about hot dogs
Speaker 1: for a couple of for basically the summer, and we
Speaker 1: were traveling around eating hot dogs everywhere all over the
Speaker 1: country and just been like talking and thinking about hot
Speaker 1: dogs for several months, the same stretch of months where
Speaker 1: a study speculated heavy unspeculated that eating a hot dog
Speaker 1: takes away thirty six minutes of your one human life
Speaker 1: every time you do it the summer eight like dogs.
Speaker 1: But I digress. How much time does that give you
Speaker 1: at this point? Are you I've essentially a time traveler?
Speaker 1: You did how many? How many hot dogs did you say?
Speaker 1: You think is around like two hundred? But I need
Speaker 1: to I need to do the minutes. Okay, probably only
Speaker 1: like a week that you lost, right right, I mean
Speaker 1: that's a hundred and thirty two hours. So it's like
Speaker 1: fuck it. You know who who gives you? And also
Speaker 1: Sarah something something Saratonin extends your life. It's kind of
Speaker 1: gravy exactly. It all comes out. That's about five and
Speaker 1: a half days of your life apparently that you lost.
Speaker 1: But I went up to see I also fully think
Speaker 1: that if I looked deep enough into that study it
Speaker 1: was funded by like big Lettuce or something. I'm like,
Speaker 1: who did that study? How do you arrive at a
Speaker 1: figure like that? Lies? All lies but the summer of Wieners.
Speaker 1: I know, I was going to say, I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: it speaks a lot to Jamie's Uh where Jamie's at
Speaker 1: that she thinks the primary competitor to hot dogs is lettuces.
Speaker 1: Like you know the thing the two things that you
Speaker 1: make a salad out of, either lettuce or you know,
Speaker 1: a bunch of hot dogs chapter one the food spectrum
Speaker 1: to the left lettuce and on the other end the
Speaker 1: hot dog spectrum of lettuce to hot dog. Um. And
Speaker 1: I'm unfortunately just fully a hot dog, the one hot dog.
Speaker 1: One of my first memories is actually a hot dog
Speaker 1: experiment myself where I was staying with a babysitter and
Speaker 1: she was like, you're gonna have three types of hot dogs.
Speaker 1: We're gonna grill them, we're gonna boil them. And I
Speaker 1: forget what the third was, but yeah, I was like five,
Speaker 1: three hot dogs, like all different kinds. I remember one
Speaker 1: being a little bit burnt and uh, and then I
Speaker 1: threw up so, yeah, you know, did you get burnt
Speaker 1: hot dogs? But I didn't say I didn't like throw
Speaker 1: up from the taste. I think I just it was
Speaker 1: too much for my little body for you. My dad
Speaker 1: also had like, I've been very interested in how everyone
Speaker 1: has a story about hot dogs, even if they don't
Speaker 1: think they do. We're like my dad also, I was like, well,
Speaker 1: what's your hot dog memory? And then he was like nothing.
Speaker 1: And then two days later he told me the most
Speaker 1: like the weirdest story I've ever heard about him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was that harsh to actually wait. But then two
Speaker 1: days later, hours later, you're walking out, he's like, Jamie, stopped,
Speaker 1: I need to tell you. You need to tell you
Speaker 1: something I haven't been right. And then he told me
Speaker 1: about the time he worked at a like a dog
Speaker 1: track when he was fifteen, because he's very old. And
Speaker 1: and then he was like and he like eight ten
Speaker 1: hot dogs in a day and then he went to
Speaker 1: the hospital. I was like, that's a hot dog story. Like,
Speaker 1: you know, looked me in the phase and say, you
Speaker 1: have no hot dog story when you've been hospitalized over
Speaker 1: because that's like nineteen seventies hot dogs. That's a lot
Speaker 1: of nitrates. Yeah, I think why when I saw like
Speaker 1: on I Think Drivers Die, like Triple D or some
Speaker 1: like food Network show. When I first saw like the Ripper,
Speaker 1: those deep fried hot dogs they like come from New Jersey,
Speaker 1: I was like the fucking intersection of all of my
Speaker 1: belief systems. And I spent like an entire summer with
Speaker 1: like my buddies, like we would like do all kinds
Speaker 1: of fat. We would fry the hot dogs in. We
Speaker 1: rendered like five pounds of bacon to just deep fry
Speaker 1: our hot dogs and bacon grease, and we would spiral
Speaker 1: cut them so they have the most surface area for
Speaker 1: like maximum crisp. Dude, I got I've I've been very
Speaker 1: invested in that market. Everyone and everyone has a ridiculous
Speaker 1: hot wait. I okay, I'm gonna spiral and she Kathy,
Speaker 1: you haven't had my spiral cut hot dogs. Cathy really
Speaker 1: liked your irving she did? She did? Yeah, that's huge.
Speaker 1: Put it on the res A All right, Jamie, we're
Speaker 1: gonna get to know you a little bit better in
Speaker 1: a moment. First, we're gonna tell the people a couple
Speaker 1: of stories we are talking about, such as the fact
Speaker 1: that health insurers are trying to change the story on
Speaker 1: change their story on whether they cover COVID, which is
Speaker 1: a disease you might have heard of, the worst pandemic
Speaker 1: and the history of these United States. We are going
Speaker 1: to talk about eating the vaccine, and we're going to
Speaker 1: talk about employers stance on drug tests. We're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about bullshit jobs weather, Fox has run out of ideas
Speaker 1: on how to attack Biden. All of that plenty more.
Speaker 1: But first, Jamie, we like to ask our guest, what
Speaker 1: is something from your search history? Oh? Okay, well, the
Speaker 1: day we're recording this is September one, So I looked
Speaker 1: up demidigu bas annual September one Earth Wind and Fire
Speaker 1: video first thing this goddamn morning, and it is so wonderful.
Speaker 1: It doesn't need my plug, but I'm gonna give it
Speaker 1: to him. Anyways. He outdoes himself every single year. If
Speaker 1: you've never seen them doing video, he's always like raising
Speaker 1: money for different causes. This year it's for three different causes.
Speaker 1: As we're recording this, he's already raised over like three
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars. Like it's so incredible. And this year
Speaker 1: I was especially excited for the video because it was
Speaker 1: filmed at my second Google. It was filmed at this
Speaker 1: house in the l A area of this woman who
Speaker 1: passed away a couple of years ago named Ali Willis,
Speaker 1: who wrote that's who wrote September by earth Wind and Fire.
Speaker 1: Like that pool party scene is that that's the house
Speaker 1: that's at her house, and it's so it's I highly recommend,
Speaker 1: like first of all, donate to Demmi's fundraiser, and wanted
Speaker 1: the video because it always fucking rocks, But this year
Speaker 1: I always especially hyped on it because she passed away
Speaker 1: I think it was last year or the year before,
Speaker 1: kind of suddenly, and she was like this iconic queer songwriter.
Speaker 1: She wrote all these Scissor Sister songs, she wrote for
Speaker 1: earth Wind and Fire, and I got to like, when
Speaker 1: I first moved to l A, I got to work
Speaker 1: for her for a week because she just would like
Speaker 1: invite young cartoonists over to this like wild, gorgeous house
Speaker 1: that's in the video and was just like so encouraging
Speaker 1: and cool. And I feel like she I don't know,
Speaker 1: she's She's written so many famous songs and I feel
Speaker 1: like went kind of underappreciated in her lifetime, so people
Speaker 1: should learn about her to Ali Willis. She was so
Speaker 1: cool and she like if you look at like if
Speaker 1: you just Google image search her, you're like, holy shit,
Speaker 1: this woman is a character. She's really really cool And
Speaker 1: just for a pole who aren't familiar with demis kind
Speaker 1: of ongoing stunt. It's he does a kind of increasingly
Speaker 1: elaborate video to the Earth, Wind and Fire song because
Speaker 1: it says, do you remember the day of September? Is
Speaker 1: that right night September? September? And it really does get better. Yeah,
Speaker 1: every single year, I have no idea how he does it,
Speaker 1: but this year there's Nolan on us. He really like
Speaker 1: it went to another place yet again, So highly recommend
Speaker 1: you watch it and you know, and donate also, and
Speaker 1: then learned about Ali Willis while you're at it, and
Speaker 1: if you have, if you've never seen it, just watch
Speaker 1: them on in a like on a continuum, like watch
Speaker 1: how the progression of these because when you watch it
Speaker 1: from the beat, like the first of the last year,
Speaker 1: like this is what every year because we were like,
Speaker 1: how are you going to make it even bigger? And
Speaker 1: this year truly like the visual effects of it were
Speaker 1: fu it was. I was like Billie Eilish whom like
Speaker 1: it was so the dancing and I, okay, no spoilers
Speaker 1: on the pod, but you just gotta watch it. It's
Speaker 1: so good. You'll see if you see key. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so good. Did you say, Billie Eilish, whom? Yes, I've
Speaker 1: never heard somebody say use it in that way with
Speaker 1: with the proper the whom instead of the who usually wrong,
Speaker 1: Billie Eilish. I do love that. That's very refined. What
Speaker 1: is something you think is overrated, Jamie? What I think
Speaker 1: is overrated, and this is maybe controversial, is the Amityville Horror,
Speaker 1: the film, the book, the true story. What are we talking? Well,
Speaker 1: it's not I feel like okay. So I went down
Speaker 1: the rabbit hole a couple weeks ago where incredible comedian
Speaker 1: Joe Firestone was posting about the fact that she was
Speaker 1: reading it. I was like, oh, I'm in the mood
Speaker 1: to be scared. Scary seasons coming up. I downloaded the
Speaker 1: audio book, I listened to it, and it was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is like based on a true story. I think
Speaker 1: that is clearly not real. Like it just was like
Speaker 1: it was really scary, but it was also like I
Speaker 1: was like, this is like this is fake and it was.
Speaker 1: It was fucking in my head. So then I got
Speaker 1: I listened to the audio book on a plane when
Speaker 1: I was home, and I watched both of the Amityville Horrors,
Speaker 1: the seventies one and the Ryan Reynolds one, which is awful,
Speaker 1: so bad. It was like in Ryan Reynolds, I'm serious era,
Speaker 1: and like I had two thousands where it was just
Speaker 1: like Ryan Reynolds was for yeah, but for Ryan Reynolds
Speaker 1: is like I'm really loud and I have a tequila
Speaker 1: company or whenever he's doing. Now that's my that's my
Speaker 1: impression of Ryan reynd I'm really loud. Um. Anyways, he's fine.
Speaker 1: That movie isn't good. But it was like just and
Speaker 1: then I was watching videos of the Lorraine and Ed
Speaker 1: Warren and them on public Access, being like the Amityville
Speaker 1: Horror is definitely real, and I just and then I
Speaker 1: I was engaging with it so heavily, and then I
Speaker 1: just started getting mad because I'm like, it's not real,
Speaker 1: it's not really, you're all liars. Like it's so interesting
Speaker 1: to like trace how it seems like the couple with
Speaker 1: the Amityville Horror like noticed that they like, I mean,
Speaker 1: they knew they lived in a murder house. But like
Speaker 1: there's you can kind of trace these few things where
Speaker 1: it became clear to them that they can make a
Speaker 1: lot of money if they were like, hey, how still haunted?
Speaker 1: And a ton of people made a lot of money
Speaker 1: off of it, And I guess it's kind of a
Speaker 1: victimless crime, but it's um the whole thing. I feel
Speaker 1: like people still talk about it like it actually happened,
Speaker 1: and I just feel like it did. I believe even
Speaker 1: ghost and I don't think it happened. God it damn
Speaker 1: it isn't. Aren't they on the record as saying or
Speaker 1: like what the real estate agent who sold the houses
Speaker 1: on the record as saying that they got really drunk
Speaker 1: with the Warrens and like jump over wine, like as
Speaker 1: a way to boost the property value. Yes, like it
Speaker 1: was literally a real estate scam that this family was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: we can like you know, make a shipload of money
Speaker 1: and get a house wherever the hell we want, where
Speaker 1: no one's been murdered if we kind of play ball
Speaker 1: here and like, yeah, there's there's a lot written about it.
Speaker 1: It's so. And then also like the guy who wrote
Speaker 1: the book kind of had a bunch of ulterior financial
Speaker 1: motives to writing it, and I don't know. There are
Speaker 1: some famous haunted house stories and I'm like, yeah, goes
Speaker 1: so real, and you are haunted Amyville horror overrated. As
Speaker 1: we head into scary Story season to tell him the
Speaker 1: dog ark, I'm done. I'm done with the Amityville horror.
Speaker 1: I'm not spreading the gospel of it anymore. Not that
Speaker 1: I was before. I was never. I was never interested
Speaker 1: in it. I just don't. I hate scary season. So
Speaker 1: scary season, Wow, too scary? You know what I mean? Life,
Speaker 1: I hate I hate getting you know why. I think
Speaker 1: I was so like as I was really sensitive to
Speaker 1: like loud sounds of ship as a kid, that like
Speaker 1: jump scared type movies really fucked me up because it
Speaker 1: was like the equivalent of like what loud noises were
Speaker 1: to me, were just like sudden interruptions that were like
Speaker 1: very jarring for me. And I just cry in the theater.
Speaker 1: So you know, it's not a good it's not a
Speaker 1: good experience for anyone. It's a bad vibe, like it's
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm working on a story right now
Speaker 1: about like graves that appear in movies, and I've been
Speaker 1: thinking about like iconic great. I don't know. It's like I,
Speaker 1: did you ever see the Ring? M Like yeah, like
Speaker 1: that the like grave, well that that girl I was.
Speaker 1: I think that I literally like lost weeks of my
Speaker 1: young life worrying that she was coming for me and
Speaker 1: that I had seven days to live. It's not a
Speaker 1: good way to live your life, but it's kind of fun.
Speaker 1: And it's also like a strange place to be in
Speaker 1: where like a movie can be so scary that like
Speaker 1: even when you can fully like reason and rationalize that
Speaker 1: this is not real, that you're like I don't like
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm gonna answer that phone, or
Speaker 1: like this room is too dark and I might see
Speaker 1: someone's melted face right like if you're thinking about it
Speaker 1: at three pm. Yeah, but yeah, Amityville horror trash. I
Speaker 1: feel like watching uh jump scare horror movie in a
Speaker 1: crowded theater can be a fun like communal experience because
Speaker 1: you're like jumping into each other's arms like I'm sorry, sir,
Speaker 1: we just met. Yeah, I literally yeah, and then just
Speaker 1: turned it after being scared, like turned to the person
Speaker 1: next to you. Could be though two and I think
Speaker 1: I've talked about this before it's I could have been
Speaker 1: this time my dad took me to go see the
Speaker 1: movie seven with my other friend and in the I
Speaker 1: don't know when that should come out, ninety six or
Speaker 1: something that was l a I would grew up in
Speaker 1: a house where like my parents were like, you know,
Speaker 1: funk all the puritanical. Well, they're just more like kind
Speaker 1: of like my mom was as a film critic, so
Speaker 1: there's like there's always movies on, and she was just like,
Speaker 1: this ship isn't gonna screw you up like us like mistreating.
Speaker 1: He was probably gonna screw you up, so you know,
Speaker 1: like rock on and Go seven And the scene in
Speaker 1: the that one since Sloth where the guys just like
Speaker 1: tied to the bed like left to like disintegrate. When
Speaker 1: that guy, like you know, he comes back to life,
Speaker 1: my dad fucking jumped up out of his seat and
Speaker 1: like almost through ship in there, like and I was
Speaker 1: just mortified. I was like, I can't. I'm not doing
Speaker 1: this in public anymore. The the other one that really
Speaker 1: stuck with me was Final Destination three, the Tanning Booth
Speaker 1: scene that was like I'm I'm never gonna recover, Like
Speaker 1: that's something that I still have not fully recovered from Yeah,
Speaker 1: the ring and the tanning booth scene from Final Destination
Speaker 1: three is like that should have been illegal nightmare fuel.
Speaker 1: What is something you think is underrated, Jamie? Oh, okay,
Speaker 1: what I think is underrated because it's going on and
Speaker 1: even I didn't know about it is the Vienna Beef
Speaker 1: Hot Dog Stand Challenge, which is going on until October seventeen.
Speaker 1: It is a publicity scheme. However, the Vienna Beef Hot
Speaker 1: Dog Stand Challenge is uh Chicago based competition. I'll just
Speaker 1: read from the website because I'm thrilled about it. It's
Speaker 1: time to find the biggest hot dog fan in all
Speaker 1: of Chicago Land. The rules are simple, eat at as
Speaker 1: many participating hot dog stands as you can for a
Speaker 1: chance at hot dog greatness. Many will enter, many will
Speaker 1: take home prizes, but only one will be crowned the
Speaker 1: Vienna Beef Top Dog. So it they're just encouraging people
Speaker 1: to take their life in their own hands and eat
Speaker 1: as many Chicago hot dogs stands as they can from
Speaker 1: It started it back at the end of August and
Speaker 1: it goes through October. And right now I hear if
Speaker 1: you check the leaderboard, Well, I'll child check the leaderboard.
Speaker 1: Stephanie E has visited three hundred and thirty one hot
Speaker 1: Dogs and gone to that many stands in the pursuit
Speaker 1: of being top Dogs. So I'm very invested in this,
Speaker 1: and um, I think it's underrated because I don't know
Speaker 1: how like the whole country isn't aware of and deeply
Speaker 1: invested in the fact that this is going on. I
Speaker 1: still have my money on Abe Froman, the Sausage King
Speaker 1: of Chicago, manep On, Karen b and Rose l who
Speaker 1: are in a race for second place right now. It's true.
Speaker 1: I'm surprised that. I mean, it's like, I I want
Speaker 1: to find who these people are. I I would I
Speaker 1: don't know if I would enter this contest under my
Speaker 1: own name either, So I it's just like I wonder
Speaker 1: what's going but there, I'm so thrilled about it. Vienna
Speaker 1: Beef also does a program that I'm currently signed up
Speaker 1: for called hot Dog University. Okay, I've started competing with
Speaker 1: Santa University. Are we Are we about to get a different?
Speaker 1: I now like Santa University is old it's all about
Speaker 1: hot dogs. No, it's like a six hour long zoom
Speaker 1: call where they just talked to you about hot dogs.
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going to happen, but they sure
Speaker 1: do charge too much money for you to do it.
Speaker 1: But I'm very invested in the hot dog to Stand challenge.
Speaker 1: I've had the tab open for for days now, just
Speaker 1: checking in. I mean, Stephanie is Stephanie's killing it with
Speaker 1: stands visited, you know? But also I feel like if
Speaker 1: Stephanie has like one or two bad days, you know,
Speaker 1: it would be so easy for Karen b or Rose
Speaker 1: l to take the lead. Right. I wonder now if
Speaker 1: this is like because you don't have to eat them, right,
Speaker 1: it's just you really scanned the check in. See. That's
Speaker 1: where I'm a little bit. I'm like, who's eating though,
Speaker 1: Who's who's respecting this? Because I get if you have time,
Speaker 1: you can just be like fucking I hit like forty
Speaker 1: hot dog stands a day. I'm gonna get that prize.
Speaker 1: But the top poses they're pretty good. Stephanie, Karen Rose
Speaker 1: and Amanda fucking unfunk withible at the moment. I also
Speaker 1: like how the names are listed with just the last
Speaker 1: the last name initial, like it's alcoholics anonymous, Like yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: we don't want to like yeah, there's and the prizes
Speaker 1: are pretty good, like okay, top dog, that's just first place,
Speaker 1: and then you get a ton of Chicago sports tickets.
Speaker 1: You get to tour the Vienna Bee Factory Tour, which
Speaker 1: is huge because they would not let me do that,
Speaker 1: and you get a trophy. Yeah, they're being very secretive
Speaker 1: over there. And then I'm kind of more interested in
Speaker 1: the second, third, and fourth place hot Dog Royalty. You
Speaker 1: get a customed mini hot dog cart and a and
Speaker 1: a catered hot dog party for up to forty people.
Speaker 1: I was like, that sounds better. Well, Miles just have
Speaker 1: to disappear from the chat and there's a Mile shaped
Speaker 1: hole in the wall box on my way. The This
Speaker 1: is what we need, is that gang. We got to
Speaker 1: create one account and all y'all who live in the area,
Speaker 1: we just crowdsource it and then we deliver. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to Karen L and Rose and Amanda, but
Speaker 1: Zamboni L is about to take I think the lead.
Speaker 1: If we can just crowdsource this, I'm so like. I
Speaker 1: just it feels nice to like root for something again.
Speaker 1: It's nice to be engaged in sport. It feels like
Speaker 1: back when people would all watch the same. It feels
Speaker 1: like when people would watch the same reality show. It's
Speaker 1: a national event. It's something to be excited about. Survivor
Speaker 1: Season one, you know, right right naked that one guy
Speaker 1: got naked. Is it true, Jamie, that you consume all
Speaker 1: hot dougs Kobyashi style and like break him in a half,
Speaker 1: shove them down and then dip the bun and water.
Speaker 1: There is no Kobyashi style. Broke koby Ashi, so I
Speaker 1: can't engage with it. It's like Kobyashi broke himself. And
Speaker 1: I think that I think that Joseph Chestnut is headed
Speaker 1: down the same road. But it's not my business. It's
Speaker 1: not my business to look mortal. Mhm. I know, And
Speaker 1: it's and if you look at you know whatever. I hope.
Speaker 1: I hope that Joseph Chestnut is doing well and getting rest.
Speaker 1: But I was worried about him this year. All right,
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and we'll be back to
Speaker 1: talk about non hot dog related knock off this indog traination. Okay,
Speaker 1: and we're back, And just a long term story that
Speaker 1: we're gonna be paying attention to on the daily zeitgeist
Speaker 1: is that insurance companies are going to be bailing on
Speaker 1: the people they're supposed to be ensuring as climate change
Speaker 1: gets worse, as just things get worse in general. That's
Speaker 1: kind of the next stage of what people who are
Speaker 1: paying attention to that disaster are expecting, and COVID is
Speaker 1: giving us a glimp senda what that might look like,
Speaker 1: with insurers basically saying we didn't say, like cover forever
Speaker 1: one folks, like this is the business now. You know,
Speaker 1: in the US health insurance companies, they said, we're going
Speaker 1: to cover a h of the costs because it's a pandemic,
Speaker 1: so you know, we'll treat you. There's no no, no
Speaker 1: need to pay for co pays or deductibles or any
Speaker 1: of that. People are still making those now more than
Speaker 1: ever commercials. So we are all. We are with you
Speaker 1: now more than ever for about sixty days or we
Speaker 1: reach our cap for three million, whichever comes first. It's
Speaker 1: like now and I can't emphasize enough now literally right tomorrow,
Speaker 1: who knows, honestly, we have to see what the what
Speaker 1: the revenue reports look like. But yeah, they began to
Speaker 1: change their minds this year. And you know, depending on
Speaker 1: where you lived in the country, some started as early
Speaker 1: as January of this year leading up to you know,
Speaker 1: in the last few months. But it's becoming a trend.
Speaker 1: Like when you look at like the top two insurance
Speaker 1: providers in certain states, many of them are starting to
Speaker 1: roll back their coverage or what fees they were going
Speaker 1: to wave. So now they're reinstating those deductibles, those code
Speaker 1: pays for COVID treatment. And mind you, they still managed
Speaker 1: to stay profitable during this isn't uh, this isn't like
Speaker 1: they are any There's no real business argument, I guess
Speaker 1: because if you say, like they went from like four
Speaker 1: point eight billion to four point six billion, like in revenue,
Speaker 1: like maybe that is the tough part, but in like
Speaker 1: when you sort of look at what COVID is right
Speaker 1: now as we understand it, it's not just an illness
Speaker 1: that if you're if it's bad enough, you can take
Speaker 1: a hospital stay and then it's done. There are many
Speaker 1: people who are suffering even if they don't go hospital,
Speaker 1: just long haul COVID where treatment can stretch for fucking
Speaker 1: months or indefinitely in some people's cases, just to like
Speaker 1: have some semblance of being able to breathe easier deal
Speaker 1: with chronic fatigue. And in these cases where these people,
Speaker 1: like there was a story in this Washington Post article,
Speaker 1: this woman who got her J and J shot, she
Speaker 1: got COVID eleven days later, and she was on a
Speaker 1: plan that wasn't covering COVID anymore. She was looking at
Speaker 1: easily dollars and expenses when you add up the hospital
Speaker 1: stay and we're in like like post hospital care that
Speaker 1: was necessary. So this is just caused just a ton
Speaker 1: of chaos. And on top of it, there's not even
Speaker 1: like like a uniformity to how insurance companies are looking
Speaker 1: at certain plans. They say, like in this article from
Speaker 1: the Washington Post, quote the lack of uniformity and COVID
Speaker 1: insurance practices across the country this year striking in some
Speaker 1: places because of differences in health plan policies. COVID patients
Speaker 1: in the same hospitals and in the same ICU units
Speaker 1: could be facing completely different financial burdens. And guess what
Speaker 1: this is all because of a lack of a federal
Speaker 1: mandate to waive these charges like permanently before they're just
Speaker 1: sort of doing it out of the goodness of their heart,
Speaker 1: but because it's not being you know, mandated by the
Speaker 1: federal government of course they're going right back to old
Speaker 1: school predatory price gauge ways, right, it's with Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: just another way to make America based on like your
Speaker 1: survival in America based on how much money you have, essentially. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And it's so I mean, it's like a because there
Speaker 1: was I mean, with good reason, it was so heavily
Speaker 1: publicized when things were fully covered, and of course now
Speaker 1: that they're not fully covered, people are probably just finding
Speaker 1: out in real time because the last you heard from
Speaker 1: a public facing standpoint is like, hey, this is it's
Speaker 1: a pandemic, like we're all in this together. And now
Speaker 1: that it's a year and a half out and actually
Speaker 1: capitalism is a motherfucker and we're not all in this together.
Speaker 1: It's I just I mean, it's like health care information
Speaker 1: is so inaccessible as it is, but for like that
Speaker 1: huge rollout to have happened at the beginning and then
Speaker 1: crickets for when the policies were changed is just so ghoulish. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And you look at like the spokesperson for like, you know,
Speaker 1: they're the industries, like lobbying arms called America's health insurance plans.
Speaker 1: They said, quote after a year and a half, it's
Speaker 1: pretty clear that COVID is here to stay. That is
Speaker 1: that this is a continuing health condition. When it comes
Speaker 1: to treatment, we're looking at it like we would treat
Speaker 1: any other health conditioning We're in a fucking pandemic, and
Speaker 1: most fucking places don't and employers don't give a fuck
Speaker 1: if you get sick or anything. So I don't know,
Speaker 1: like if people have legal recourse to like sue their
Speaker 1: employer or the state or being like, well, because of
Speaker 1: your lack of safety guidelines, I was put in a
Speaker 1: high risk situation and now I'm stuck with a bill
Speaker 1: for a communicable disease because I'm also at the will
Speaker 1: of a fucking private health insurance company. And this and
Speaker 1: these changes affect like private you know, like if you're
Speaker 1: getting it from your employer type plans like Medicare, if
Speaker 1: you have no insurance at all, like there are other
Speaker 1: ways for it to be paid. So the people who
Speaker 1: are really getting this like shock of like looking like
Speaker 1: what the folks going on are people who are getting
Speaker 1: their employ uh insurance to an employer. Yeah, there's a
Speaker 1: So there's this book that came out in ten called
Speaker 1: Bullshit Jobs, a theory that made the case that like
Speaker 1: most of the jobs in the US economy are bullshit,
Speaker 1: Like they don't contribute anything to society, and in fact,
Speaker 1: they do harm a lot of times. They exist to
Speaker 1: give a manager someone to manage. It really resonated with me. Like,
Speaker 1: having spent almost twenty years in the U s economy,
Speaker 1: I can say that I've been around these constantly and
Speaker 1: that they are the you know, the norm rather than
Speaker 1: the exception. But one of the like detail or one
Speaker 1: of the examples that they use of like this logic
Speaker 1: in action is when Obama justified you know, keeping private
Speaker 1: insurance companies around and like not going with a fully public,
Speaker 1: single payer healthcare system because millions of people would lose
Speaker 1: their jobs, and like those jobs are inherently there to
Speaker 1: make it harder for people to get healthcare. That's like
Speaker 1: those jobs should go away and they should be replaced
Speaker 1: with a system that is designed to get people in
Speaker 1: need help that like the help that they're looking for.
Speaker 1: But I think this is just a increasingly kind of
Speaker 1: an interesting way to look at Like, you know, I
Speaker 1: feel like most people are recognizing that we're coming to
Speaker 1: the end of one era and like need to shift
Speaker 1: into something else that's going to enable us to deal
Speaker 1: with the species like you know, extinction level event that
Speaker 1: we're all headed towards, and like there are just all
Speaker 1: these jobs that are essentially they're just to justify themselves
Speaker 1: because like America needs jobs because of our like puritan
Speaker 1: capitalistic like work ethic like that. This economist John Maynard
Speaker 1: Keys predicted that by now we would have a fifteen
Speaker 1: hour work week because of like how automated everything was
Speaker 1: gonna be, how like fast technology was increasing and improving.
Speaker 1: And the argument in the book, which makes sense to me,
Speaker 1: is that like we're there, it's just that we didn't
Speaker 1: get rid of the work week because we're like addicted
Speaker 1: to the idea that work is the thing that makes
Speaker 1: you like gives you work or gives you value as
Speaker 1: a human being, right right, which which I don't even
Speaker 1: I don't even think it's like inherent too that it's
Speaker 1: just like there's never been a huge movement to discourage
Speaker 1: you from thinking that way, where it's like I just
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know if any of us
Speaker 1: could remember a time where that wasn't sort of how
Speaker 1: you were conditioned to like shape the image of yourself
Speaker 1: in relation to what you do and who you are
Speaker 1: and how hard you work and and ye hustle culture sleep.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that whole point of like, you know, you
Speaker 1: keep people toiling, they can't get together, they can't organize
Speaker 1: to and to actually bring about change because the toil
Speaker 1: and the grind of working constantly keeps people in place.
Speaker 1: And then you know the way things are set up,
Speaker 1: you just are labor to exploit for other people. And
Speaker 1: I'm sure that's a coincidence, right because you saw like
Speaker 1: the light version that occurred with the lockdown, and look
Speaker 1: what fucking happened. They're like, get these people back to work.
Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck if kids are dying in schools,
Speaker 1: Like these people are fucking not working. They're like starting
Speaker 1: to figure sh it out like that this is bullshit,
Speaker 1: that they're being exploited, that they don't need to live
Speaker 1: like this. No, like they've this is too much. This
Speaker 1: has been too much of a pause, especially at least
Speaker 1: in this country, where you can see that like that
Speaker 1: that version of a world where people have more free
Speaker 1: time is like no, no, no, or even the time
Speaker 1: to actually think about their own like life outcomes that
Speaker 1: they want. Yeah, can yeah, that it threatens that system
Speaker 1: of toiling, and like so many people are like, my
Speaker 1: job is meaningless or my job sucks, Like they don't
Speaker 1: like their job. They feel like if they disappeared tomorrow,
Speaker 1: like it wouldn't really matter in the grand scheme of things.
Speaker 1: And like we've just so many of the story like
Speaker 1: this resonated with so many of this with me based
Speaker 1: on so many of the stories we've covered, like militarized
Speaker 1: police patrolling and functionally making problems in communities where they
Speaker 1: treat people like enemy combatants, showing up in a situation
Speaker 1: that could be solved by bringing someone to a hospital
Speaker 1: and turning it into a shooting that requires millions of
Speaker 1: dollars and investigations and justifications, and the FBI's investigation following
Speaker 1: nine eleven, which, as we talked about last week, we're
Speaker 1: like fully focused on fabricating reasons to continue an investigation.
Speaker 1: I've like in the tech industry, I've worked at companies
Speaker 1: that were, you know, primarily designed to make people who
Speaker 1: were using a different service, like have a worse experience,
Speaker 1: basically like make the Internet less efficient. Like that wasn't
Speaker 1: what my job was, but that was the kind of
Speaker 1: mission that got the most funding, And like basically wild people.
Speaker 1: While they were like having a worse experience, they were
Speaker 1: taking a box that made the tech company money and
Speaker 1: that was the part of the business that received the
Speaker 1: vast majority of the funding because you could create like
Speaker 1: a big work infrastructure around that and you could like
Speaker 1: give these managers lots of people to manage. And yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just because problems mean more dollars, right, because if
Speaker 1: you solve ship, then it's less money. Like you know,
Speaker 1: there's still money that can be made. But if you
Speaker 1: really had a philosophy, like a philosophy as a company
Speaker 1: and to be like, yeah, if you buy our stuff,
Speaker 1: like you can fix it, and it's like really good
Speaker 1: and you can, it'll be working again, and like great, cool, cool,
Speaker 1: glad you're able to fix. Yeah, we'll send you a
Speaker 1: replacement part. It's really easy to do. Go on with
Speaker 1: your life. It's it's great. Or even the you know,
Speaker 1: with healthcare, like we can't actually like we have to
Speaker 1: have these systems that are like in such chaos because
Speaker 1: then it just it creates more of a mess things
Speaker 1: to address, more money being spent when really everyone just
Speaker 1: wants like like the outcome, and then people just say
Speaker 1: that's a utopia. That's impossible, right, Well, that's just it's
Speaker 1: just antithe. He's like, well, the money, the money is there.
Speaker 1: It's not like the money isn't there and couldn't be
Speaker 1: rerouted if there was. And again every argument is, well,
Speaker 1: so what I'm going to make less money? That's what
Speaker 1: every fucking thing boils down to. When you look at
Speaker 1: Democrats who are saying we're not going to vote for
Speaker 1: lower prescription drugs, they say it'll They have no fucking real,
Speaker 1: like articulated reason for why they would vote against renegotiating
Speaker 1: prescription drug prices, aside from some industry created phrase. It's
Speaker 1: like it'll stymy private sector innovation. Innovation, so which means
Speaker 1: less money. Yeah, he gives. So he gives this example
Speaker 1: of a friend of his who was like a poet
Speaker 1: and like fronted and Andy rock band, and like he
Speaker 1: hadn't he had fallen out of touch with him, and
Speaker 1: he got back in touch, and like he had a
Speaker 1: pretty successful career, but eventually, like he was like, but
Speaker 1: I had to grow up and go to law school
Speaker 1: and now he's a corporate lawyer working in prominent New
Speaker 1: York firm. He was like the first to admit that
Speaker 1: his job was utterly meaningless, contributed nothing to the world,
Speaker 1: and in his own estimation, should not really exist, which
Speaker 1: talked to literally any corporate lawyer almost like I've rarely
Speaker 1: talked to a corporate lawyer who's not like, yeah, this
Speaker 1: sucks and I hate what I do. But he points
Speaker 1: out that like the reason, like you, you have to
Speaker 1: ask the question, what does it say about our society
Speaker 1: that it generates an extremely limited demand for talented poet musicians,
Speaker 1: but an apparently infinite demand for specialists in corporate law.
Speaker 1: And his answer is that if one percent of the
Speaker 1: population controls most of the disposable wealth, which is what
Speaker 1: we call the market, you know, that is going to
Speaker 1: reflect what they think is useful or important and not
Speaker 1: what anybody else does. And so like we we've been
Speaker 1: in this system where what is valuable, what is practical
Speaker 1: has been dictated by the top one, and that that
Speaker 1: is above all needs to change as as things just
Speaker 1: get more and more like we were not living in
Speaker 1: a normal society anymore, and it's going to get more
Speaker 1: and more volatile like as we go forward. So yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, let's uh, all right, Jack, you just went
Speaker 1: anti joker. You're like we don't live in a society
Speaker 1: anymore exactly. All right, let's take a quick break and
Speaker 1: we'll be right back. And we're back, and let's talk briefly.
Speaker 1: So Fox doesn't really know what to do with itself
Speaker 1: these days, and so yeah, the head kind of a
Speaker 1: slow day a couple of days ago. We're just gonna
Speaker 1: play you some some clips from Yeah. They just think,
Speaker 1: oh my god, this all be equal. It was a
Speaker 1: story because Joe Biden is taking a long weekend in
Speaker 1: like Delaware with like his wife, and he was riding
Speaker 1: a bicycle. So this is what Fox News is interpretation of.
Speaker 1: That is, being the leader of the free world has
Speaker 1: to be the most demanding job and the whole world.
Speaker 1: And he simply does not have the mental or physical
Speaker 1: stamina to do this job. And that is why his
Speaker 1: handlers and his wife, who by the way, increasingly look
Speaker 1: more like visiting angels, um, have to schedule in these
Speaker 1: senior breaks for him so he can take naps and
Speaker 1: go for bike rides because he can't concentrate on the job,
Speaker 1: um the way he should. I mean, just compare it
Speaker 1: to President Donald Trump, who worked these long, long hours,
Speaker 1: um and you know, had imprompt two hour long uh
Speaker 1: you know, pressers with the you know, with with the media, um,
Speaker 1: the president Biden even in Bob Woodwood wood work. Okay,
Speaker 1: enough of that. So what what what what? What? What? What? What? What? What?
Speaker 1: What would what would I mean impromptu press conferences? You
Speaker 1: mean when he would just hijack the mic and sundown
Speaker 1: on air? Really and also like describing all of that
Speaker 1: as if it was like necessary and productive is just
Speaker 1: so silly. It's like, I don't know, like, no, I'm
Speaker 1: not a big fan of Joe Biden, but that was
Speaker 1: an MP four of him on a bike Like that,
Speaker 1: was it? Right? Exactly? I'm not here to say, you know,
Speaker 1: like I don't. I'm definitely in he is too old camp.
Speaker 1: I agree with that and more in the sense that
Speaker 1: he has passed his prime given the elasticity of thought
Speaker 1: required in this moment we were facing as a society
Speaker 1: or lack of society is act was saying, like, he's
Speaker 1: too rigid. Yeah, he's too rigid to be to arise
Speaker 1: to this occasion. And it's and I think that much
Speaker 1: is becoming more and more clear. But you know, do
Speaker 1: with that what you want. But this just sort of
Speaker 1: idea of him saying like it's too that's why he's
Speaker 1: got to take breaks and blah blah blah. It's just
Speaker 1: the same they used to have, like there were other things,
Speaker 1: but now it's just like they're just describing what Trump
Speaker 1: would do and be like they're right, I guess that's
Speaker 1: just sort of the football that people pass back and
Speaker 1: forth in partisan news. Yeah. Yeah, it's like it's it
Speaker 1: that that was a treat. That was a treat because
Speaker 1: it's like, of all of the like valid points that
Speaker 1: you just made, Miles, it's like the only thing you
Speaker 1: could do to truly profoundly undercut it is to compare
Speaker 1: him with the previous right, that is like the worst
Speaker 1: thing you could do. Yeah, the guy who golf like
Speaker 1: how to fucking golf club like surgically attached to his
Speaker 1: fucking hand only watch in the White House, right, Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: And again you'll have like I'm sure on the other side,
Speaker 1: you'll have like liberal news being like, look how active
Speaker 1: Joe Biden is like with his schedule. But it's like
Speaker 1: Jesus both we stand. Yeah, that's my impression of MSNBC.
Speaker 1: They're like, we stand President, he had one hand. He
Speaker 1: only had one hand on the handlebars. He's the other
Speaker 1: hand to wave at the camera. That's really hard. We
Speaker 1: heard MSNBC have made a jif of it. If you want,
Speaker 1: you can buy right now. Oh my god, to help
Speaker 1: move on dot org. It's also annoying. But yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like the conference. It's like the one the one person
Speaker 1: you don't want to put that if they're smart, don't
Speaker 1: bring up President Trump. Don't bring him up. But he
Speaker 1: isn't even like you guys anymore? Like what are you doing?
Speaker 1: Did that not? The did not make it over to
Speaker 1: the Fox News viewer that he was like the like
Speaker 1: just based on his schedule, was the laziest president, like
Speaker 1: of all time? Was that just not a thing? Probably
Speaker 1: not right? They probably well, I'm sure that they're They're like, well,
Speaker 1: Donald Trump was the first president to ever practice hashtag
Speaker 1: self care, so he's actually, uh icon of self care?
Speaker 1: Has Joe Biden met with Gwyneth Paltrow yet? I don't
Speaker 1: think so? So how could he know what's best for us?
Speaker 1: Get me pictures of that meeting? Just kidding, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be So, I'm like, whatever, Jeffrey Katzenberg is going to
Speaker 1: l a city council like of course secretly, secretly, secretly,
Speaker 1: She's like, I have so much free time since my
Speaker 1: billion dollar loser projects failed, so let me just tamper
Speaker 1: with things I don't know shit about. I want to
Speaker 1: I want to build a behemoth thing and move a
Speaker 1: bunch of displaced, a bunch of poor people. Can you
Speaker 1: help me with that? Also, this is not yeah talking
Speaker 1: about someone trying to justify their their continued existence anyway.
Speaker 1: I mean Quimby is a great example of that. You
Speaker 1: know about that there was that there's a lot of talent,
Speaker 1: but it was poured into some managerial class assholes. Terrible idea, right,
Speaker 1: And also like you're saying the one percent version of
Speaker 1: what they think the market is, which is Jeffrey Katzenberg
Speaker 1: thinking you know what I'd watch and like, I don't
Speaker 1: give a funk what if YouTube videos cost money? You're like,
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just salty because I worked on a
Speaker 1: Quimby show. I made like twelve dollars and then it
Speaker 1: never came out, So wow, you know, not even did
Speaker 1: it complete or is it part of the Roku resurrection?
Speaker 1: It I don't it definitely, I don't even know if
Speaker 1: it completed. It was animated. So I'm assuming no, wow,
Speaker 1: because you know, Roku gave Quimby a second home. I
Speaker 1: loved to turn it on my little Roku and being like,
Speaker 1: oh that's where it all went. Wow, truly out with
Speaker 1: a whimper Roku TV. But the numbers on Roku are incredible. Yeah, alright,
Speaker 1: let's talk about So we've joked before about, you know
Speaker 1: the idea of just putting a little vaccine and someone's
Speaker 1: morning oatmeal, you know, tricking some of the uh, the
Speaker 1: people who get all their news do their own research
Speaker 1: on Facebook friend groups, Like maybe we put the vaccine
Speaker 1: in their food and they don't notice, and then we're good.
Speaker 1: They get to still think they're sticking it to us,
Speaker 1: or people who are like, oh, I hate needles. That's
Speaker 1: why I'm gonna put myself at risk because I just
Speaker 1: don't like needles, and I don't like needles more than
Speaker 1: I don't like death. So what are you gonna do?
Speaker 1: Apparently scientists are already thinking like this because of researchers
Speaker 1: at UC Riverside working with a few different universities. They've
Speaker 1: been tinkering with a way to get vaccines into edible
Speaker 1: plants like spinach and lettuce, so you could get a
Speaker 1: vac salad. Okay, Because one of the things they're saying
Speaker 1: is like the vaccine as it is now, it's really hard.
Speaker 1: It's hard to store, like it has to be at
Speaker 1: a very cold temperature and things like that they're looking
Speaker 1: at they're like, they're just like, Okay, we have a
Speaker 1: three step approach to figuring out what we're gonna do. First,
Speaker 1: try and deliver DNA containing the m R and A
Speaker 1: vaccines into plant cells where they can replicate. Next, they
Speaker 1: say they want to show that plants can actually produce
Speaker 1: enough of this MR and A to replace a traditional injection.
Speaker 1: And then they'll then they'll begin tinkering with like what
Speaker 1: the dosage is essentially from there. But um, one of
Speaker 1: the people who's like leading this research is saying that
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, there is there is a way
Speaker 1: to make this work. And they say, the key to
Speaker 1: making these vaccines are the chloroplasts. If you remember from
Speaker 1: class I went, I went to seve finth grade. Yet
Speaker 1: this is where the chloroplasts, or where the sun the
Speaker 1: sunlight is converted into energy. Yeah, and so they say
Speaker 1: they're like, as he explains, they're tiny solar powered factories
Speaker 1: that produce sugar and other molecules which allow the plant
Speaker 1: to grow. They're also an untapped source for making desirable
Speaker 1: molecules and quoll. Previous studies have shown that it's possible
Speaker 1: for chloroplasts to express genes that are not a natural
Speaker 1: part of the plant, and so his this this team
Speaker 1: is trying to do that by like sending this genetic
Speaker 1: material into the like protective casing of the plant cells.
Speaker 1: And they're like boom, boom boom. They've seen like with
Speaker 1: other certain things. So that's why they're optimistic about how
Speaker 1: this could work. They're like fund like you could have
Speaker 1: fields of this ship growing potentially, or grow it at
Speaker 1: your own house. I don't. I mean, it's still very early.
Speaker 1: But when I look at him, like damn, okay, I get.
Speaker 1: But I also work curious, like someone who big lettuce
Speaker 1: at works. Yeah right, they're coming big in a hot dog.
Speaker 1: What about chloroplast big farm? Yeah, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1: There it is so, you know, I think, But there's
Speaker 1: also a part of me that's like I wonder if
Speaker 1: a person who hates needles in their adult age is
Speaker 1: also like a fan of spinach And yeah, let's get
Speaker 1: charts do for that, Like, fuck, what are you gonna
Speaker 1: do that? Yeah? I feel like this, you know, the
Speaker 1: the wellness community that tends like the portional wellness community
Speaker 1: that rejects vaccines I think also probably rejects genetically modified organisms. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like there, we gotta get big, big hot dog on this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: put him in the hot dog chloroplasts. Yeah, so they
Speaker 1: teach at hot dog University day one. Yeah, here's the
Speaker 1: parts of the hot dog, the cytoplasm, the nucleus, the chloroplasts,
Speaker 1: and the young zone. If you plant, if you if
Speaker 1: you dig a hole, you put a hot dog in
Speaker 1: the hole. You water it every single day. You don't
Speaker 1: know what happened. Anything could happen. That's called magic. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. We'll look at this closely, but I'm hoping.
Speaker 1: I'm wondering if that's sort of the future is you know,
Speaker 1: because like people have made ice cream with like vegetables
Speaker 1: in it. You know, like there's all this sort of
Speaker 1: tinkering with technology to try and be like here, we
Speaker 1: know you don't like eating healthy, so here's a version
Speaker 1: of eating like shit that's actually good for you. Try that.
Speaker 1: The flintstone gummies of vaccines. Yeah, yeah, ice cream vegetables.
Speaker 1: I feel like also are not gonna appeal to uh,
Speaker 1: ice cream veggies. We're not going to get the Red States.
Speaker 1: Just chrick it up. That will tell you. Just say
Speaker 1: a bunch of kale you live, all right, Let's uh,
Speaker 1: let's check in with Alberta. They had a prov the province. Yes, indeed,
Speaker 1: like that's something we do all the time. Yeah. Well, well,
Speaker 1: you know, at the beginning of the summer, Alberta boldly
Speaker 1: proclaimed that they were going to be at the forefront of,
Speaker 1: you know, fighting COVID with their unprecedented pretend it doesn't
Speaker 1: exist policy. I'm just back to normal. They printed a
Speaker 1: bunch of merch with the phrase best summer ever on
Speaker 1: it and us no summer of winers. Yeah, it does
Speaker 1: sound similar to summer of winers, like something that a
Speaker 1: horny high school grad and a teen sex comedy would
Speaker 1: say that they were gonna do. Yeah, but yeah, it
Speaker 1: became the official slogan for Alberta's plan. They actually sold
Speaker 1: merch with it. One of the Premier's aids tweeted, the
Speaker 1: pandemic is ending except it oh no. And when they
Speaker 1: announced their plans to roll back most public health measures
Speaker 1: was accompanied by a banner reading open for summer, just
Speaker 1: like fucking Jaws, like with the billboard of like yeah,
Speaker 1: come on in swim. So that they did this starting
Speaker 1: on July one, with just over seventy percent of the
Speaker 1: eligible population vaccinated, which is a lot like for I
Speaker 1: think America would love to have seventy of the elated,
Speaker 1: but it's still like not quite at the level that
Speaker 1: people say gets you heard immunity, and which was unfortunate
Speaker 1: because Alberta decided to abandon contact tracing and asymptomatic testing
Speaker 1: of people who came into close contact with COVID cases,
Speaker 1: and in August they announced people who actually tested positive
Speaker 1: for COVID did not need to quarantine. So they were
Speaker 1: just like, it's a multi pronged it's a multi tiered rollout,
Speaker 1: And basically the idea I was to make COVID nine
Speaker 1: team protocols similar to those of the flu and other
Speaker 1: communicable diseases. That old, that old chestnut that we heard
Speaker 1: so much at the beginning of the pandemic, and then
Speaker 1: in Alberta we heard it like very recently and Alberta's
Speaker 1: health minister admitted no other jurisdiction in Canada or elsewhere
Speaker 1: in the Western world has similarly discarded isolation or testing measures,
Speaker 1: but claimed that Alberta was leading the way. And yeah,
Speaker 1: so unpredictably, like such a long way of saying, you
Speaker 1: just like don't give a ship and don't want to
Speaker 1: deal with it. It's like we're leading the way and
Speaker 1: not doing anything. You're like, well, right, well they did
Speaker 1: print those hats up. That's said best summer ever. So
Speaker 1: so yeah, this is under conservative leadership. I'm assuming conservative leadership.
Speaker 1: They love they love that one that Wold Sweden example
Speaker 1: that they don't check up on, and you're like, it
Speaker 1: was ad it was very bad for them. So yeah,
Speaker 1: you're you're never gonna guess what happened next. With a
Speaker 1: huge chunk of the population still in vaccinated cases and
Speaker 1: hospitalizations went uh, Dawn, Yeah, I know, I didn't. I
Speaker 1: was really thrown for a loop. I said, I don't
Speaker 1: like jump scares Jack. As hospitalizations and deaths were spiking
Speaker 1: that Alberta United Conservative Party was still selling best Summer
Speaker 1: Ever baseball caps on their website, and so the premiere,
Speaker 1: the Conservative premier, decided to jump into action and go
Speaker 1: on vacation. What he described as a well deserved vacation.
Speaker 1: He just disappeared, God disappeared. Didn't tell anyone where he
Speaker 1: was going, and people still don't know where he went
Speaker 1: to this day, like where the trip was to. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he just went away and was like, I'm on vacation.
Speaker 1: It's well deserved because as I was leading the Western
Speaker 1: world in not doing anything on COVID. While he was
Speaker 1: on vacation, the surgeon cases pushed the health care system
Speaker 1: to the verge of collapse. Children's hospitals had to delay
Speaker 1: the vast majority of their surgeries as a result. Healthcare
Speaker 1: workers are calling on him to help get help from
Speaker 1: the military and the Red Cross, and just last week
Speaker 1: he apologized for the fact that this was not the
Speaker 1: best summer ever. He said, I know that we all
Speaker 1: hoped this summer that we could put COVID behind us
Speaker 1: once and for all. That was certainly my hope, and
Speaker 1: I said that very clearly. It is now clear that
Speaker 1: we were wrong, and for that I apologize. Let's how
Speaker 1: you don't see in this country, Yeah, conservative apologizing for
Speaker 1: being conservative, people apologizing for their horrible policies and shitty
Speaker 1: merch like it truly. Yeah, this does feelings point to
Speaker 1: our like hell world style everywhere, you know, like that
Speaker 1: you can be in the midst of a pandemic and
Speaker 1: you have these people who because so many people are
Speaker 1: experiencing different realities because of their social status or social class,
Speaker 1: that to them, they're like, this is great, We're gonna
Speaker 1: We're gonna make these hats even though other people's lives
Speaker 1: could be an absolute hell. But if the messaging is
Speaker 1: strong enough around this, maybe we can will that into
Speaker 1: people's minds, even though all of the data in front
Speaker 1: of them suggests otherwise. Right, right, Yeah, I mean and
Speaker 1: and like to to any of the listeners who live
Speaker 1: in Alberta, what a fucking nightmare, Like that's off, Like
Speaker 1: that's such an awful thing to have to we went
Speaker 1: through to right, but it's I mean, I guess that
Speaker 1: there was an apology at the end, but like that also,
Speaker 1: like what a fucking slap in the face that'd be like, oh,
Speaker 1: I guess you know swing and a miss, And it's like, well,
Speaker 1: there's there's lives connected to the swing and the miss. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think the big is the biggest loser
Speaker 1: here was all these hats we didn't sell. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: sorry to warehouse the best summer ever has. Yeah, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I need to be clear. I was saying that I
Speaker 1: was wrong about how these hats would just be flying
Speaker 1: off the shelves and they didn't, and for that I apologize.
Speaker 1: The Yeah, I think about the like huge think tank
Speaker 1: that came up with this strategy and like the thousands
Speaker 1: of jobs that were dedicated to coming up with this
Speaker 1: strategy presumably, and everyone's sleeping. Well, yeah they're probably not,
Speaker 1: and like they that's yeah, we're in late capitalism. We
Speaker 1: need to figure out what's next because this is not working.
Speaker 1: You look at the UK. That's why I most was
Speaker 1: like eight out of ten younger people are like, yeah,
Speaker 1: socialism now, like these socialism yesterday, quickly quickly, quickly, quickly, quickly,
Speaker 1: because it's all everything. You look around and you're living
Speaker 1: in a world where it's like, here's the deal, here
Speaker 1: are the rules of this earth. Can you afford to
Speaker 1: stay alive? Then you die and go fund yourself? Is
Speaker 1: that a question you don't want to ever have to
Speaker 1: ask anybody? Okay, let's find a new way. Oh wait,
Speaker 1: there already is a new way, we just have to
Speaker 1: implement it. Yeah, it's called less greed from these fucking
Speaker 1: people like who we've just had this financial system gained
Speaker 1: so much momentum, it's like, what unless you're talking about
Speaker 1: massive upheaval, Like what are these to the to the
Speaker 1: one percent of earners? Go, yeah, you know what, man,
Speaker 1: here's here's sixty of what I what I have back
Speaker 1: to y'all. Yea. Rather than be like, hey man, a
Speaker 1: million bucks sounds like a lot to you, right, like
Speaker 1: fucking a fraction of like a fraction of my wealth idiots,
Speaker 1: they did call a state of emergency and introduced a
Speaker 1: vaccine Passport, which was just a downloadable PDF that is
Speaker 1: mind bogglingly easy to edit, like in your phone. So
Speaker 1: uh so, all right, um, yeah, but that's that's kind
Speaker 1: of the story game with Alberta. Yeah, Jamie as always
Speaker 1: such a pleasure helping you. Where can people find you
Speaker 1: and follow you? You can find me on Instagram and
Speaker 1: Twitter for now Twitter, Jamie Loftus help Instagram, Jamie christ
Speaker 1: superstar you at. Maggie may Fish and I are doing
Speaker 1: a five five hour stream this Saturday to benefit Notock
Speaker 1: l a uh and we'll be talking to a bunch
Speaker 1: of journalists and comedians about the why the Olympics should
Speaker 1: not exist. We're doing We're like co hosting it with
Speaker 1: no Olympics. L A and I am writing on a
Speaker 1: new show called Teenage euthan Asia on Adult Swim, and
Speaker 1: a few of my episodes are airing this Sunday, so
Speaker 1: you can watch that nice. Is there a tweet or
Speaker 1: is some work of social media you've been enjoying. Oh,
Speaker 1: Brody Gupta released a banger of a bit this morning.
Speaker 1: I think Broody is so funny. Um so she she's been.
Speaker 1: She tweeted quote, what is grief but love? Persevering? Just
Speaker 1: a sneak peek of a line I am writing in
Speaker 1: my script just to see if she could trigger fans
Speaker 1: of wand Division, because that is a line from like
Speaker 1: the last episode of wand Division. And there's people being like,
Speaker 1: so is no one going to point out that this
Speaker 1: exact line was already on wand Division. She just keeps
Speaker 1: quote tweeting people and saying, no, this is a line
Speaker 1: from my film, And she says, let's just say dot
Speaker 1: dot dot. My vision never wanders. She's the funniest person
Speaker 1: in the world. She's I think she's writing at the
Speaker 1: Simpsons right now. But that's at Broty Kupta the R
Speaker 1: O T I g U t A. It reminds me
Speaker 1: of who is the journalist in Boston who is just
Speaker 1: triggering gun owners by by saying all those wrong gun
Speaker 1: facts on Twitter and being like, you, in fact, do
Speaker 1: not know what an a R fifteen is because it's
Speaker 1: fifteen guns. I think said or knew of this person.
Speaker 1: But anyway, I love that form of might have been
Speaker 1: Chris aggressively just being like, no, you're wrong and just
Speaker 1: ramping that volume up on them. I Yeah, it's I
Speaker 1: feel like there. You know, it's not a perfect circle obviously,
Speaker 1: but it is. Um. You know, they're fans of Marvel
Speaker 1: properties and fans of guns are both very sensitive towards
Speaker 1: certain things. M hmm. It was like a heavily memed
Speaker 1: line from that show to like this, I don't know
Speaker 1: what you're talking about. I'm pretty sure that that's a
Speaker 1: line from Brodie Frocrypt. Yeah yeah, Miles, where can people
Speaker 1: find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying? Uh? You
Speaker 1: can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray.
Speaker 1: And also the other show four twenty Day Fiance was
Speaker 1: Sophia Alexandra just talking about ninety day fiance from a
Speaker 1: couple of tweets that I am liking. First one is
Speaker 1: from at Ja Jordan tweeting Tony Braxton really had me
Speaker 1: ready to leave my husband in elementary school, because, yeah,
Speaker 1: those lyrics were very powerful. The other one is from
Speaker 1: at bray Underscore Early Day. It's a screenshot of a
Speaker 1: tweet with our conversation with someone called mom and they're
Speaker 1: asking what does the I A mean l g B
Speaker 1: t q i A including animals, and that was the
Speaker 1: person just put ellipsus mother um. And another one from
Speaker 1: at Vanessa Fudges tweeting the purpose of Twitter is they
Speaker 1: gain enough followers that you can post something like eating
Speaker 1: a burger and have forty people reply saying hell yeah,
Speaker 1: hell yeah dog. That's actually what I do all day
Speaker 1: on Twitter, just famous people and just agree with them
Speaker 1: on what they're doing. Oh just a little soady Ellie
Speaker 1: cremendal Uh, I'm sure I'm mispronouncing that, but she tweeted,
Speaker 1: can't stop thinking that ice breaker where I had to
Speaker 1: ask this girl what she loved about her boyfriend and
Speaker 1: she said we both love buffalo wings, and that just
Speaker 1: reminded me of this like a marriage wedding like pre
Speaker 1: training thing that my wife and I did in the
Speaker 1: middle of nowhere in Missouri, where like they asked, you
Speaker 1: like to tell a story of how you met, like
Speaker 1: what you like about each other, and we like, I
Speaker 1: had to go first. They're like forty couples, and we
Speaker 1: like talked about how like we met in college and
Speaker 1: like we stayed up all night talking about like you know,
Speaker 1: some book we were both reading and like, and then
Speaker 1: everybody after us was like, we yeah, a lot of
Speaker 1: crying from me and she was embarrassed. But then like
Speaker 1: every couple after us, they're like story involved, like going
Speaker 1: hunting together, and I like the fact that they both
Speaker 1: hunted was like the thing that really about taking alive
Speaker 1: with your really brings you together. Really love that she
Speaker 1: could shoot a shoot a buck. You know, I felt
Speaker 1: really shitty. You can find me on Twitter at Jack
Speaker 1: Underscore o Brian. You can find us on Twitter at
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Speaker 1: we talked about in Today's episode, as well as a
Speaker 1: song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song
Speaker 1: do we think people might enjoy? Two days? This is
Speaker 1: a track from an artist called Throwing Snow and they're
Speaker 1: like an electronic producer kind it came out of the
Speaker 1: dub step era but kind of doing all kinds of
Speaker 1: interesting stuff. Now. This track is called Halos and I
Speaker 1: just really liked it because it reminded me of like
Speaker 1: a very modern, well produced version of the techno Viking song.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember techno Viking from the
Speaker 1: early days of internet video or that guy like shoves
Speaker 1: a dude bullying someone at an outdoor rave and he
Speaker 1: looks like get straight up Viking and then like takes
Speaker 1: his water and drinks it and then just like starts
Speaker 1: like raving so hard walking down the street. If you
Speaker 1: don't know techno Viking, please look up Techno Viking. But
Speaker 1: this for the techno Viking fans. This had a very
Speaker 1: similar beat and it evoked techno Viking for me, so
Speaker 1: I hope it does the same for you. It's Halos
Speaker 1: by Throwing Snow. All right. Well, The Daily Zia is
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Speaker 1: going to do it for us this morning, but we're
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