Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season two or three,
Speaker 1: Episode four of Daily Like Guys, the production of I
Speaker 1: Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take a
Speaker 1: deep dive into America's shared consciousness. It's Thursday, September one.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get like a Michael Buffer Timber to
Speaker 1: my intro to this show. My name is Jack O'Brien.
Speaker 1: A ka backs him up, Joe. I'm about to back
Speaker 1: him up, Joe. That's what this mandate was intended to do.
Speaker 1: Some of them trying to slide, but they can't slide
Speaker 1: this mandate. Some of them trying to slide, but they
Speaker 1: can't because I'm gonna make it, to make it and
Speaker 1: make it and make it. A mac daddy. I didn't
Speaker 1: change that last part because I do believe Joe Biden
Speaker 1: would like to refer to himself as a mac daddy.
Speaker 1: App Yeah, mac daddy, I feel like throw the mac first. Anyways,
Speaker 1: That a K was courtesy of Quarantine Kids and based
Speaker 1: on Warm It Up by Criss Cross. I'm thrilled to
Speaker 1: be joined as always by my co host Mr Miles Round.
Speaker 1: Every morning there's a ruler hanging from the corner of
Speaker 1: my girlfriends for post bed I got the vaccine, so
Speaker 1: I say it. Fucking answer. Did my balls grow or
Speaker 1: they sound the same. I couldn't understand how Nikki worked
Speaker 1: it out once again as predicted, left my balls up broken,
Speaker 1: filled with worthless calm. This ship got me realing, but
Speaker 1: I'm still here all breathing way my balls and pounds again.
Speaker 1: Babe book said don't do it, but fox uck I
Speaker 1: do it again. Durrnder Okay. Shout out to Mr lagoper
Speaker 1: Gets on Twitter for that one. Yeah, you had a
Speaker 1: discord invite, you asked for one when you post in
Speaker 1: this ak Wow. And the syllables. I love when people
Speaker 1: nail the syllable panail. You don't have to rush nothing
Speaker 1: and could put double up on syllables, So shout out
Speaker 1: to you Lex Luki. Yeah, I also like when they
Speaker 1: don't nail the syllables at all. That's what this mandate
Speaker 1: was intended to do. But that's the beauty of it.
Speaker 1: But that was that was beautiful. Well done, Lex Luki,
Speaker 1: Well done, Miles really nailing that. Mark McGrath, I mean
Speaker 1: when you see him every day, you know still I
Speaker 1: still just respect the hell out of Mark McGrath for
Speaker 1: being the highest I've ever seen someone on TV. And
Speaker 1: it was on the Wendy Williams Show. It was a
Speaker 1: daytime show. Uh, and he when lying and when you're
Speaker 1: on Wendy Williams and you're the highest person on the show.
Speaker 1: And she was there too. He was there to talk
Speaker 1: about his newborn baby. Was more he's just like flying
Speaker 1: on up, just like I'll get at It's just like
Speaker 1: and then they hit me the baby and they're like,
Speaker 1: you want to cut the corner and it's just wild.
Speaker 1: He's like, you know, the color of chalk, except his
Speaker 1: nose is bright red. Anyways, Miles, We are thrilled to
Speaker 1: be joined in our third seat by Wanted, the hosts
Speaker 1: of the wildly entertaining podcast Ridiculous Romance. Please welcome Eli Bell. Everybody.
Speaker 1: Very excited to be here. Thrilled to have Yeah, I've
Speaker 1: been thank you. Yeah, no, I've been. Uh A longtime listener,
Speaker 1: first time guest here. Wow. Yeah, okay. The name every
Speaker 1: episode number one, Jack Miles go to the Beach, number
Speaker 1: Jack Miles Zoo, the one about market, number three, the
Speaker 1: one about Mark McGrath. Yeah, one where Miles tries out
Speaker 1: for the Dodgers. Uh, the Hawaii epis so it obviously
Speaker 1: when I had the lifts in my shoes when I
Speaker 1: tried out for that basketball team, and then the proposal. Honestly,
Speaker 1: that was sweet. I mean that's sappy, but yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I felt a little bit unnatural for me, but it
Speaker 1: was what it was, and I said yes, So you
Speaker 1: know it worked out. We were on a break, the
Speaker 1: one where they were on a break? Eli, what tell us?
Speaker 1: So you know I just checked out the Lucy Daisy episode.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what what is the most kind of ridiculous
Speaker 1: romantic story that you've uncovered? Generally about ridiculous romance? Yeah,
Speaker 1: so ridiculous romance. It's sort of a little sister show
Speaker 1: to ridiculous History. Ben Bowling, Noel Brown. They're sort of
Speaker 1: creating the ridiculous universe of various other ridiculous blank shows.
Speaker 1: And they came. Ben's an old friend of mine and
Speaker 1: Diana's No. Two. We've known them both for a long time.
Speaker 1: But Ben and Diana and I amongst them many other
Speaker 1: talented people were inna sketch comedy theater troupe here in
Speaker 1: Atlanta for many years and then came to us and said, hey,
Speaker 1: you guys are funny. He thinks we're funny and you're
Speaker 1: married and maybe you guys should take on this topic
Speaker 1: of ridiculous, weird, bizarre couples and thrubbles and love affairs
Speaker 1: to history. So we started digging and just yeah, found
Speaker 1: some really really insane stories. I mean, you know, we've
Speaker 1: got ones you've heard of, like the Bobbit's which was Lorraina.
Speaker 1: Bobbitt and John Wayne Bobbitt, which ended up being so
Speaker 1: much more intense and bizarre of a story, especially after
Speaker 1: the incident. Yeah, very dark and uh classic Yeah, classic
Speaker 1: romance really really hits all the beats. But I would
Speaker 1: say some of the weirdest ones we've done. We recently
Speaker 1: did a story about Simon Park who's British politician who
Speaker 1: suddenly came out and said he has his whole life
Speaker 1: and having sex with an alien cat queen and that
Speaker 1: it's causing some struggles in his own marriage to a
Speaker 1: human woman here on earth, and that he basically met
Speaker 1: this alien when he was He said he she first
Speaker 1: came to him as a vision when he was in
Speaker 1: the womb, which he remembers, and then visited him when
Speaker 1: he was five years old, and then many times throughout
Speaker 1: his life and they've been mating and have an alien
Speaker 1: child together. This went on planet having sex with a cat.
Speaker 1: He's having sex with the with the cat alien on
Speaker 1: their spaceship. They beat him up, oh okay Oka, But
Speaker 1: no animals are being harmed. As far as we know,
Speaker 1: it's possible. The whole thing is one big hallucination he's
Speaker 1: having in his bedroom, but we don't thinking got to that.
Speaker 1: But he's currently also it seems like he's driving a
Speaker 1: big Q and on force. He does zoom meetings regularly
Speaker 1: with like after the January sixth thing, he launched from
Speaker 1: like sixty followers on YouTube over six and that's the
Speaker 1: latest he shifted kind of into that conspiracy. Yeah, quite
Speaker 1: a character, all right. Yeah, well, we are going to
Speaker 1: get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
Speaker 1: a couple of the things that we're gonna be talking
Speaker 1: about later on in the episode having to do with
Speaker 1: the news and the zeitgeist. We're gonna we're gonna check
Speaker 1: in with Trump, I guess you know, and then we're
Speaker 1: gonna do a positive story to add life back into
Speaker 1: our bodies about some Pennsylvania high school students fighting back
Speaker 1: against the backlash to critical race theory and succeeding. We'll
Speaker 1: talk about Amazon's AI cameras that they've installed in drivers
Speaker 1: vehicles that are you know, just straight up black marror episode,
Speaker 1: like not like it easily could be a mirror episode.
Speaker 1: So we'll talk about that. We punished you for blinking literally,
Speaker 1: we punish you for checking your rear view mirror. We
Speaker 1: punished you for getting cut off. It's just yeah, they're
Speaker 1: turning people into like you know, they're using like a
Speaker 1: financial cattle prod on people for doing things that are humans.
Speaker 1: So we'll talk about that. We'll talk about employers realizing
Speaker 1: drug tests are fucking dumb. We will talk about Miles
Speaker 1: is just visceral hatred for tomatoes. It's not I know,
Speaker 1: I know, I don't start, don't don't plume in a
Speaker 1: box quite yet, but I will. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: I've a I've a would up and down relationship with tomatoes.
Speaker 1: You have a beef with tomatoes. Not confused with beef tomatoes.
Speaker 1: You have be steak tomatoes. In fact, some people call them.
Speaker 1: But yeah, the I I'm with you actually on on this.
Speaker 1: Just the Yeah, we're gonna talk about raw tomatoes and prep.
Speaker 1: It's mostly because this Duke's student wrote a wonderfully worded yeah,
Speaker 1: tried against the tomato. Yeah, we need to we need
Speaker 1: to reach after that duke's student. What a writer. All
Speaker 1: of that plenty Moore, But first, Eli, we do like
Speaker 1: to ask our guests, what is something from your search history?
Speaker 1: Uh let's see, while you mentioned our recent episode about
Speaker 1: Daisy and Lucy. Not to plug the show too hard,
Speaker 1: but my entire Google search history for the last six
Speaker 1: months has been various relationship stories, of course, but sort
Speaker 1: of like a spinoff factor that I found out that
Speaker 1: Daisi Arnaz was drafted during World War Two, which I
Speaker 1: thought was weird because he was not an American citizen
Speaker 1: at that point. And to me at least, this was
Speaker 1: news from my you know, southern public education that foreign
Speaker 1: nationals could get drafted. Uh yeah, just news to me.
Speaker 1: He was here from Cuba and it was apparently pretty normal.
Speaker 1: In World War two, they totally changed the laws so
Speaker 1: that foreign nationals could get drafted without being naturalized, and
Speaker 1: then it did not give them citizenship automatically. It's sort
Speaker 1: of they sort of dangled the carrot. It made it
Speaker 1: a little easier. Afterwards it started Wait, so they've been
Speaker 1: doing it since back then. Yeah, yeah, hey help us
Speaker 1: out with this war. It might it might it might
Speaker 1: do good. I don't know, or it might not. We
Speaker 1: might have been I don't know what it's like. Yeah,
Speaker 1: did he did he actually enlist? He did? He actually
Speaker 1: broke his He had a knee injury before he was
Speaker 1: able to go do training. But he still tried to go,
Speaker 1: but they classified him as uh, you know, he was
Speaker 1: too injured to actually serve physically, so they had him
Speaker 1: directing USO shows. So he was injured shortly before he
Speaker 1: went to start training, so they didn't qualify him for
Speaker 1: active service. But they ended up having him direct USO
Speaker 1: shows in California, which was perfect for him because he
Speaker 1: was already big in entertainment. He was doing you know,
Speaker 1: it's just before the show Pile of Lucy, but he
Speaker 1: was huge and bands in the club scene and everybody
Speaker 1: kind of knew who he was. So radio, right did
Speaker 1: It was a radio show before I Love Lucy was,
Speaker 1: but he wasn't involved until it went to television. God
Speaker 1: she was. It was her and another actor who CBS
Speaker 1: tried to bring on the show because they thought the
Speaker 1: idea of an interracial couple on TV was outrageous. Of
Speaker 1: course what today like into a Pelican brief and it
Speaker 1: was that was such We talked about this in the show.
Speaker 1: But that's so the executives kind of like projecting their
Speaker 1: own racism under the country because they're saying Americans won't
Speaker 1: accept it. So Lucy and Desi went out and did
Speaker 1: a vaudeville show, the two of them across the whole country.
Speaker 1: Everybody loved it. It was like the biggest thing in
Speaker 1: the country. And they came back and said, you know, no,
Speaker 1: Americans don't reject this. That's just you guys. Right back
Speaker 1: to that point about how the one percent is this
Speaker 1: saying like this is what we want and this is
Speaker 1: what the world wants. Yeah, like this is not what
Speaker 1: we asked for. Yeah, but you know, people aren't ready
Speaker 1: for a Denzel Washington sequel, is what I'm saying. They're
Speaker 1: not ready to see Denzel kiss a white woman. Yes,
Speaker 1: Denzel can't kiss a white woman. And also like the
Speaker 1: Equalizer too, I'm just saying you're going to hit a single,
Speaker 1: not a home run on that one because audiences are
Speaker 1: racist and I know that because I'm racist. That was
Speaker 1: from the Sony hack from a from a producer who claimed, look,
Speaker 1: Denzel is my favorite actor. Okay, I'm just saying, look,
Speaker 1: I vote for him a third term. Uh you know,
Speaker 1: what is something you think is overrated? All right, So
Speaker 1: we're just meeting, and I'm a lifelong vegetarian by the
Speaker 1: vegetarian code, I have to tell you guys that you know,
Speaker 1: in twenty five minutes of us meeting, of course, kind
Speaker 1: of went over to be honest. Yeah, I know it's
Speaker 1: a little late get miles and hour over here text
Speaker 1: and I think this guy's vegetar area though, So I mean,
Speaker 1: we had our suspicions. Try to make it obvious vegetarian skin.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there's an iron So what the fund is
Speaker 1: this guy's deal? Because like an inner life, get them off. Well,
Speaker 1: I have in recent years decided that something very overrated
Speaker 1: to me is all the fake meats that have been
Speaker 1: coming out lately. The impossible, the beyond drive me crazy
Speaker 1: because I mean, I think it's a little different for
Speaker 1: me because I grew up like I've effectively never eaten meat,
Speaker 1: so I'm not looking for a substitute. But but it
Speaker 1: has bumped all the other options off of menus at
Speaker 1: least at least here in Atlanta. What I've seen like
Speaker 1: black bean burgers, you know, uh, in house veggie burgers,
Speaker 1: they're all gone, They've all they're all impossible or beyond now,
Speaker 1: and I just don't think it's really any good. And
Speaker 1: having grown up eating all the processed, hyper process super
Speaker 1: salty fake meats that they put in the freezer, it
Speaker 1: doesn't taste that different from the stuff I had when
Speaker 1: I was a kid. So this revolutionary new thing kind
Speaker 1: of a big letdown, I think, like kind of like
Speaker 1: a bit like you, not to not to be disparaging,
Speaker 1: but like if he getting sort of hipster take where
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, what's doing all the stuff that you love?
Speaker 1: I was vegetarian before it was cool? Yeah, how did you? Wait,
Speaker 1: how did you become a vegetarian? This is a child
Speaker 1: like you decided as a child or no, my my
Speaker 1: mom started when she was a teenager and raised us
Speaker 1: that way. Okay, so yeah, oh so you had a
Speaker 1: so you did have a moment of being a bit
Speaker 1: of an omnivore. No, No, like straight from when I
Speaker 1: was born vegetarian. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know
Speaker 1: what I misheard anyway, His mom started so mild. This
Speaker 1: is where the old couple behind you in the movies
Speaker 1: explains what just happened. So his mom started when she
Speaker 1: was a teenager miles but then from the yeah, oh okay,
Speaker 1: I get it. I got it. But so that I noticed, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: because I feel the like ground like those black bean
Speaker 1: or chickpea type burger patties. Yeah. Have another person I
Speaker 1: knew who was vegan mentioned this too, where they're like,
Speaker 1: there was nothing wrong with that. I was fine. I
Speaker 1: was fine until then until and then I guess it's
Speaker 1: I guess this moved this push to bring omnivores more
Speaker 1: into the consider eating vegan or veggie veget vegetable based,
Speaker 1: plant based, which I appreciate. I've got friends who switched
Speaker 1: over and they're they're glad to have something that you know,
Speaker 1: reminds them of homes that is bag. But that's how
Speaker 1: I definitely like, I'm like, this is great because I
Speaker 1: think for me it's more of I don't have the
Speaker 1: discipline to acknowledge the like that it's a net positive
Speaker 1: for me and earth. So I'm like, well, what do
Speaker 1: I get? Okay, so I can stop the feeling of
Speaker 1: a burger and to be honest, like impossible. I think
Speaker 1: I like is because it's it's almost like mimicking indecipherable
Speaker 1: cheap beef that I grew up eating, like at football game,
Speaker 1: Like you weren't sure if it was beef to begin with. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're like, I don't know, man, they said, it's a
Speaker 1: burger texture of meat. So yeah, what's uh like, what's
Speaker 1: an underrated vegetarian food that people are like? You know,
Speaker 1: for me, being a vegetarian seems like an insurmountable difficult
Speaker 1: thing to undertake. What what's like a staple that you
Speaker 1: think that is like delicious that we When I have
Speaker 1: that thought, I'm not understanding. I mean growing up, like really,
Speaker 1: once I started feeding myself my you know, as a
Speaker 1: teenager aian in my twenties, I was a very unhealthy vegetarian.
Speaker 1: People like, oh, you're vegetarian, must be so I'm like, cheese, pizza,
Speaker 1: and French fries are vegetarian. It was a large part
Speaker 1: of my diet. It wasn't un till like my late twenties.
Speaker 1: I really kind of made some choices there and started
Speaker 1: trying to eat more than just bread and cheese all
Speaker 1: the time. Ah, So I mean, you know I part
Speaker 1: of it, I think is that you you start to
Speaker 1: like foods that you eat for a while. I've heard
Speaker 1: this from food sciences and stuff. You know, you go
Speaker 1: two weeks if you don't like broccoli, you know, eat
Speaker 1: it for a few weeks, and you will. And that
Speaker 1: sort of happened to me with things like Brussels sprouts
Speaker 1: that I'd like as a kid. And now I've got
Speaker 1: five different recipes for Brussels sprouts that I probably eat
Speaker 1: three pairs a week. Yeah. I cook mostly at home
Speaker 1: and try just try to get creative with, you know,
Speaker 1: whatever ingredients I can. It's hard to pinpoint one specifically,
Speaker 1: but yeah, yeah, by a cabinet full of food and
Speaker 1: start dumping in a pot. Olive oil, garlics and rosemary
Speaker 1: will fix anything. Just by cabinet full of food, dumping
Speaker 1: in a pot and see what you come up with.
Speaker 1: They have no idea how literally I'm going to take that.
Speaker 1: They're like, wait, you take it out of the cans.
Speaker 1: Put the cans in the pot too, Yeah, the can
Speaker 1: just take the labels off. What's something you think is underrated?
Speaker 1: ELI Not to invite too much controversy, but phone calls
Speaker 1: I get it. I get that texting is useful a
Speaker 1: lot of situations. I'm probably sixty text phone myself. But
Speaker 1: this kind of raw hatred that's come against the very
Speaker 1: idea of speaking on the phone in the last few years.
Speaker 1: It's really strange to me. It feels like a technological
Speaker 1: step backwards. They said, well, you know what if we
Speaker 1: don't have to write these letters and telegrams anymore, and
Speaker 1: we could just speak our thoughts into another person's head directly,
Speaker 1: and that we sort of undid that. That's strange to me, right,
Speaker 1: that it's like now I can do instant telegrams to
Speaker 1: a person's pocket and telegram station. Yeah fuck no, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I definitely see like there is I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's generation. I think because like as it for me
Speaker 1: is like a teenager or whatever, talking on the fucking
Speaker 1: land line was my blood, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: There's no other way to communicate. I mean, there was
Speaker 1: a I M and ship like that, but the phone
Speaker 1: was like the next level because you could you could
Speaker 1: just leave the line open. You're both watching the TV show,
Speaker 1: not talking for fucking thirty minutes straight, doing your homework
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. And I so I think part
Speaker 1: of me, I still I still have a love for
Speaker 1: those times, so I definitely, you know, I don't understand
Speaker 1: the hate for the phone. I guess if it's like
Speaker 1: for work or something, maybe that's right. But other than that,
Speaker 1: come on now, yeah, yeah, I mean you lose so
Speaker 1: much via over text. Like there's been studies that found that,
Speaker 1: you know, emails, just don't try to fucking tell a
Speaker 1: joke and work email because you are going to fail.
Speaker 1: People are not going to get it right. You guys
Speaker 1: are right to kind of compare to telegrams. I read
Speaker 1: every text that I received in the voice of a
Speaker 1: wistful Civil War soldier writing home, like in a Ken
Speaker 1: Burns documentary, So that that's just how my brain works.
Speaker 1: And you say stopped too, I think, yes, I do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well what else? How else do I read the periods
Speaker 1: out louck? Yeah, yeah, I agree, I'm on board. But
Speaker 1: you know, this gen Z audience of ours is Terry
Speaker 1: a new one, buddy, there's only three p in the world.
Speaker 1: It'll still talk to me on the phone, right yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, which is also funny when I think about it,
Speaker 1: Like of the people and I'm like, I call him
Speaker 1: like it's the same ten people. Yeah, you know, that's
Speaker 1: another level though of like friendship though too, Like are
Speaker 1: you in the phone zone, because that's like when you
Speaker 1: know you're like I have to call this person, I
Speaker 1: have to talk to them voice to voice. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I'm stuck in the phone zone with this one guy. Sucks.
Speaker 1: Manus just get me to the text zone already. Yeah,
Speaker 1: do you guys, Like when do you fit in your
Speaker 1: phone calls? Like, my wife is really good at like
Speaker 1: staying in touch with people, my wife, and she'll like
Speaker 1: call them when she's driving somewhere. Like she's just like
Speaker 1: has a routine where she immediately like goes to her
Speaker 1: phone whenever there is like a free moment where I
Speaker 1: would be listening to a podcast. Essentially, she calls people,
Speaker 1: right because podcast hosts are my friends and so that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have paras social relationships, but I don't really have
Speaker 1: a time for it. It usually happens on the weekends
Speaker 1: for me, because like I'm I'll be like meandering and
Speaker 1: I'll get a text and then I'm like, fuck it,
Speaker 1: I just need a call to keep this thing going.
Speaker 1: Or half the time I'll just call it because I'm
Speaker 1: driving and I don't want to. I don't want to
Speaker 1: continue a conversation over text. Wild It's more it's sometimes
Speaker 1: just born out of safety more than like I gotta
Speaker 1: talk to this person. I'm ya, I'm driving my let's
Speaker 1: let's talk about this shop in the car. So I
Speaker 1: don't have a routine, Eli, what buy you? Mind's usually driving,
Speaker 1: that's kind of yeah, because it you know, Atlanta, I
Speaker 1: think similarly to l a very car heavy city and
Speaker 1: it takes half an hour to get anywhere. So yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: all my podcasts come while I'm cooking or cleaning. Mm hmm,
Speaker 1: and then driving is driving his phone calls for the
Speaker 1: phone Zone. Amazon would have a thing to say about that.
Speaker 1: You'll get too later. All right, let's take a quick
Speaker 1: break and we'll be right back. And we're back. And
Speaker 1: so Donald Trump suing the New York Times and his
Speaker 1: niece for a mere one million dollars because they published
Speaker 1: that story about his taxes a while back. And I mean,
Speaker 1: this is I'm guessing, since he is famous for assuing
Speaker 1: people all the time and was the president at the time,
Speaker 1: that that was probably a fairly bulletproof story in terms
Speaker 1: of sourcing. But yeah, it's it's interesting to like kind
Speaker 1: of hear the substance of the complaint. Yeah, because especially
Speaker 1: when you know, like with reading this story, like oh wow,
Speaker 1: this dude uses all kinds of tricks. Even though it
Speaker 1: wasn't like there are certain years where people really wanted
Speaker 1: to see everything. But what was clear is like, oh,
Speaker 1: he likes to funk around with his taxes and how
Speaker 1: he sort of claims losses and things like that. And
Speaker 1: in this beginning of the legal complaint that he filed,
Speaker 1: it's it's meant to sound like something more than these
Speaker 1: were documents that his niece had and just shared with
Speaker 1: The New York Times. Rather quote, the defendants engaged in
Speaker 1: an insidious plot to obtain confidential and highly sensitive records,
Speaker 1: which they exploited for their own benefit and utilized as
Speaker 1: a means of falsely legitimizing their publicized works. The defendant's
Speaker 1: actions were motivated by a personal vendetta and their desire
Speaker 1: to gain fame, notoriety, acclaim and the financial windfall, and
Speaker 1: were further intended to advance their political agenda. This is
Speaker 1: the thing is he'sn't denying the authent like the authenticity
Speaker 1: or the veracity of his claims. So finding this lawsuit
Speaker 1: is more just like that's true. Yeah, this is like
Speaker 1: the cheating boy This is the cheating boyfriend being like
Speaker 1: he that you catch him and his his responses to
Speaker 1: claim that the person who told you about it is
Speaker 1: a hater, but like not not addressing the substance of
Speaker 1: the of the actual Yeah right, Like, oh can you
Speaker 1: it looks like you're cheating on your taxes. If you weren't,
Speaker 1: you'd be like, I'm not. That's that's that's impossible. Who
Speaker 1: told you that said? They're they fucking They just want
Speaker 1: to take me down. They because I'm so cool. Yeah.
Speaker 1: His His niece Mary Trump responded. She said, quote, I
Speaker 1: think he's a fucking loser and he's going to throw
Speaker 1: anything against the wall he can. It's desperation. The walls
Speaker 1: are closing in. Anything against the wall that will stick.
Speaker 1: As is always the case with Donald, he'll try and
Speaker 1: change the subject. Amazing, And I think he's a fucking
Speaker 1: loser And she's not like that. It's funny to look
Speaker 1: think of her and me like he's a fucking loser
Speaker 1: of my uncle. Fuck this guy. So that's uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was not editorializing. She that was her quote. I
Speaker 1: think he is a fucking loser, shout out to Mary Trump.
Speaker 1: But yeah, at the end of the day, it's just
Speaker 1: another case where this first you know, she she got
Speaker 1: these documents because of a dispute over like her grandfather
Speaker 1: and Donald's dad's like estate when he had passed or something,
Speaker 1: so she had obtained these documents legally. Um, so like
Speaker 1: everything about this is just like a hundred million Okay,
Speaker 1: gets gets in the bill, Like she says, the walls
Speaker 1: are closing in, although I'm I think we've yet to
Speaker 1: see the walls actually closing phrase. Guys the area, Like
Speaker 1: there are super cuts. I think I forget who did
Speaker 1: the super cut of all the MSNBC journalists being like,
Speaker 1: and the walls are closing in around Donald Trump. The
Speaker 1: walls are closing in, and it's just never been true
Speaker 1: or it is true. But he that is his like
Speaker 1: part of his natural state is to have the walls
Speaker 1: closing in around him. Like that's how he It's the
Speaker 1: same way with like for every anyone else looking, the
Speaker 1: walls closing in means he's going to prison or he
Speaker 1: is going on trial and he will be in a
Speaker 1: courtroom at in front of a jury or something like that.
Speaker 1: That's what I think most people are like, that would
Speaker 1: be the walls closing in. But everything is so incremental.
Speaker 1: It's like the same thing where it's like they banned
Speaker 1: choke holds, the lot the walls are closing in on
Speaker 1: over policing. It's like, no, they're fucking not. But I
Speaker 1: get maybe if your perspective is like it's this giant
Speaker 1: room and they move an inch. Okay, the walls are
Speaker 1: closing in on some level. M not in a satisfying
Speaker 1: way though. As we talked about on yesterday's episode, the
Speaker 1: Trump campaign knew like from the start that the claims
Speaker 1: about election fraud were bullshit. What what we're learning that
Speaker 1: his lawyers gave Mike Pence basically a six step guide
Speaker 1: to rap fucking the election? Yeah, like, how how close
Speaker 1: we actually checking in with Trump? Yeah? Part two and
Speaker 1: then we'll check the funk out. But there's the whole
Speaker 1: point of this seemed to just be like to do
Speaker 1: a coup at light speed and just iron just proclaim
Speaker 1: all this ship and then figure it out after um.
Speaker 1: But this main point, step three was at the end
Speaker 1: Pence announced this is from this legal memo that was
Speaker 1: given him from John Eastman. Who is from the Federalist Society. Okay,
Speaker 1: just so you can connect some dots to the people
Speaker 1: who are suggesting how we packed the courts are also
Speaker 1: giving sparks notes on how to fucking overthrow an election.
Speaker 1: Step three. Quote at the end, Pence announces that because
Speaker 1: of the ongoing disputes in the seven states, there are
Speaker 1: no electors that can be deemed validly appointed in those states.
Speaker 1: So the whole point was when they go, when he
Speaker 1: was going to preside over that whole the certification, they
Speaker 1: would keep up this idea that in states like Arizona, Pennsylvania, etcetera,
Speaker 1: especially where people were like, we are the true electors
Speaker 1: of this state, that they would sort of jump on
Speaker 1: the back of that to say, like it's being completely disputed,
Speaker 1: we don't know what to do with this, and then
Speaker 1: essentially kick it to the Congress or kick it to
Speaker 1: the House to then vote based on each state representing
Speaker 1: like each each group of congress people or House members
Speaker 1: representing their state to cast their vote, which would have
Speaker 1: given Trump an edge if they had taken out those
Speaker 1: other states. So it's just a very a very clear
Speaker 1: plan that they had, and the whole thing was that
Speaker 1: they said, while the military might not have acted as
Speaker 1: quickly because a lot of politicians would have been like,
Speaker 1: this is absolute horseshit. They were counting on possible violence
Speaker 1: breaking out the police because they are down with MAGA
Speaker 1: being the enforcers or trying to quell a lot of
Speaker 1: this stuff, and then using that to declare martial law possibly,
Speaker 1: so they had it. They were really thinking this entire
Speaker 1: fucking thing out, like how to do it. While it's
Speaker 1: completely chaotic and inelegant and wouldn't hold up considering all
Speaker 1: the lawsuits that they lost on the way there, they
Speaker 1: were still willing to just to go there to bring
Speaker 1: the country to that point. This is the exact scenario.
Speaker 1: There's a radio Lab episode probably like six to eight
Speaker 1: months before the election, and this is the exact scenario
Speaker 1: they laid out that we talked about on this show.
Speaker 1: That like it's almost like they heard that and we're like, oh,
Speaker 1: good idea, Like that they would invalidate the chunk of
Speaker 1: the states. They would get people like rising up and
Speaker 1: you know, doing violence, and then what would just be
Speaker 1: like too close to call, guys, We're just gonna have
Speaker 1: to x those out and look at what's left and
Speaker 1: look at that two thirty two. Wow, we did it.
Speaker 1: So it's amazing the behind the scenes effort that's always
Speaker 1: going on here as opposed to Trump himself. Like I
Speaker 1: I always imagine in these scenarios like Trump dozing off
Speaker 1: around step two as they're trying to get to him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and just being ushered into whatever room they need him in.
Speaker 1: Here you go, you're in charge again. They did a
Speaker 1: condensed version for him with step one. You win. That's it,
Speaker 1: one step plan, Mr President. Love it gout. But I
Speaker 1: think this is one of those things too where Americans especially,
Speaker 1: we talk about how we are constantly, you know, just
Speaker 1: in a fucking round phase and always reacting when we
Speaker 1: found out that this is another instance where the fascism
Speaker 1: is basically taking over the Republican Party. So there's a
Speaker 1: there's an entire political party that is invested in fascism
Speaker 1: and willing to go any length to stay in power,
Speaker 1: but like quite literally through any fucking means, and like
Speaker 1: the laws and you know, the practices of this country
Speaker 1: be damned, and we still have Democrats who want to
Speaker 1: play like this bipartisan ship without really acknowledging these people
Speaker 1: don't give a fuck. They they have. They were looking
Speaker 1: at their their fucking notes to each other being like,
Speaker 1: this is how we steal an election we lost And
Speaker 1: if you want to then act like, well, we gotta
Speaker 1: see if the filipbuster, I mean, that could be really bad.
Speaker 1: What do you fucking thing's gonna happen if they steal it,
Speaker 1: they actually steal a fucking election. It's like, you're not
Speaker 1: gonna have any fucking recourse. It's just gonna be they'll
Speaker 1: just throw you in jail or some ship, because this
Speaker 1: is gonna be, Like you can tell by the way
Speaker 1: they want to meddle with education and things like that.
Speaker 1: They're trying to create a system where people don't ask
Speaker 1: questions and they go along with ship. And if you do,
Speaker 1: that's it's it's a problem for you. Yeah, and the
Speaker 1: Federalist Society again has many members on the Supreme Court,
Speaker 1: so it's not that's not just in Congress that this
Speaker 1: is happening there. They're closer than I think any sort
Speaker 1: of mainstream media outlet acknowledges. Yeah, and no one's I
Speaker 1: don't think many people are. I don't know. At least
Speaker 1: when this memo story came out, not many people were
Speaker 1: connecting the dots of John Eastman and the Federals, the
Speaker 1: Federalist Society because because again I think, because it's such
Speaker 1: a powerful institution in the belt Way, it like it.
Speaker 1: I guess for people inside, they weren't as making as
Speaker 1: big of a stink about it. I see. So I
Speaker 1: see more stories now. But it's just wild how how
Speaker 1: long it takes for people to be like, we'll hold
Speaker 1: on and look who's telling him the person who's who's
Speaker 1: part of an organization that is like constantly thinking of
Speaker 1: how to realign or judicial system. Yeah, and it's I
Speaker 1: feel like there's probably an instinct in the sort of
Speaker 1: centrist mainstream media to be like, well, those are the
Speaker 1: like Trumpists, but like they kind of put these characters
Speaker 1: in separate categories, Like there's the McConnell's, who are like
Speaker 1: standard Republicans, and then they're the Trumpets, and like only
Speaker 1: John Eastman's over on the side of the Trumpets, so
Speaker 1: like he like shouldn't be lumped in with the Federal Society,
Speaker 1: shouldn't be lumped in with him, But like we got
Speaker 1: to Trump because of just unbelievable fucking rot in the
Speaker 1: original Republican Party. Like before he came in and just
Speaker 1: swept it up. Like that's they're all kind of on
Speaker 1: a continuum, ready to just do whatever it takes to
Speaker 1: stay in power. And I think, like you said, Minels,
Speaker 1: just the total lack of opposition that they're facing. Two
Speaker 1: people on the left, you are saying, oh yeah, bipartisanship
Speaker 1: that still exists, even though it's a one way street,
Speaker 1: which is, you know, completely counter what bipartisan is. Right,
Speaker 1: It's like it's like playing fucking like blackjack with someone
Speaker 1: and like there you catch them cheating all the time,
Speaker 1: and you're like, all right, let's play a big one.
Speaker 1: Let's do this for a million dollars right now, and
Speaker 1: you're like okay, and everyone was like, okay, they fucking cheat,
Speaker 1: you idiot, don't get involved with them, or if you are,
Speaker 1: fucking make sure this ship is level, because this this
Speaker 1: the person you are dealing with, has made it clear
Speaker 1: how they're willing to get there. And not to say,
Speaker 1: you know, and I'm not trying to say that the
Speaker 1: Democrats are above any kind of criticism, but in this instance,
Speaker 1: like comparatively, they need to, like you know, they actually
Speaker 1: need to figure out how to protect this shitty system
Speaker 1: that we have or I guess maybe it just plays
Speaker 1: out and you know, Americans are going to find themselves
Speaker 1: in a place where they have to not they found
Speaker 1: out right and now it's too late. But I think
Speaker 1: this is one of those things like to be in
Speaker 1: a fantasy world about what you know, just because it
Speaker 1: didn't it wasn't successful, it doesn't mean it's still an
Speaker 1: ongoing threat. And just because that rally was a total
Speaker 1: wet fart last weekend for the Justice for the j
Speaker 1: six people, they're moving into different spaces now. They don't
Speaker 1: need to do this sort of like public display of
Speaker 1: like allegiance type stuff there. Look at the school boards,
Speaker 1: look at these other local offices, look at the electoral
Speaker 1: boards that they're trying to infiltrate in all kinds of
Speaker 1: red states. But it's a different game, and I think
Speaker 1: the focus needs to actually be on those kinds of
Speaker 1: things rather than like they've only got a hundred people
Speaker 1: to show up for this, like yeah, well they're doing
Speaker 1: stuff on every and every every other channel. They're trying
Speaker 1: to figure out how to, you know, ensure that if
Speaker 1: they want to overthrow an election, willing people are in
Speaker 1: those positions to do it. Yeah, I think that also
Speaker 1: established democrats find that they have more success when they're
Speaker 1: on the defense. So they can't wipe these guys out
Speaker 1: because then they've got nothing to push back about. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: because then they'd have to fix things. Yeah, exactly. It's
Speaker 1: it's always the best excuse to not fix things, to
Speaker 1: be like, well, these other guys, yeah, because if they
Speaker 1: were here, I would Okay, well, then do it, well,
Speaker 1: the philip you see, let me shut up. Yeah, alright,
Speaker 1: let's flush our systems with a nice story of down
Speaker 1: home activism succeeding. You know, last summer, there were a
Speaker 1: lot of organizations and schools circulating lists of suggested books
Speaker 1: and other materials to help broaden people's perspective on race
Speaker 1: and white supremacy. You know, not so anyway, like not
Speaker 1: all of them are done in good faith. That's probably
Speaker 1: we can discuss that another time. But in New York, Pennsylvania,
Speaker 1: their school district's diversity committee released a list of all
Speaker 1: kinds of great stuff for students, teachers, and parents to
Speaker 1: check out, and like clockwork, concerned parents stepped in. They
Speaker 1: couldn't process the demographic changes in their community, decided that
Speaker 1: the reason that their community was less white was because
Speaker 1: kids are reading books about American anti black racism. That
Speaker 1: seems to logic, at least that's the logic I've seen it, like, well,
Speaker 1: this is causing more racient huh, but what are you
Speaker 1: talking about? The comments at these school board meetings and
Speaker 1: this is sort of pre the full blown critical race
Speaker 1: theory screaming matches like this. This this happened like sort
Speaker 1: of on the heels of the summer of last year.
Speaker 1: Parents were saying the same stuff, this is racist against
Speaker 1: white people. Like there was like a children's book that
Speaker 1: was like about Rosa Parks and it was like the
Speaker 1: most children's book I've ever seen, Like, I can't I
Speaker 1: kid reading this and then feeling guilty that they're white. No,
Speaker 1: and I can tell that this book is what it's
Speaker 1: what it's gonna say, rather than like, you know, being
Speaker 1: about a kid's book that's humanizing all children and being
Speaker 1: like there's nothing fucking different. So, because of all this outrage,
Speaker 1: the school board banned the materials, or rather they said
Speaker 1: they're putting a freeze on the list until they had
Speaker 1: time to review it because they don't like the word band.
Speaker 1: So the great thing is that the kids at this
Speaker 1: high school. They didn't let that stop them from educating themselves,
Speaker 1: and they certainly didn't appreciate the sort of like unilateral
Speaker 1: nature of these like books and articles and stuff just
Speaker 1: being restricted, so they started protesting daily. It started off
Speaker 1: with like a couple of kids, and then it grew
Speaker 1: into like the hundreds, and they eventually created the Panther
Speaker 1: I think Anti Racism Union student Union and there I
Speaker 1: think their mascots called the Panthers. But you know again
Speaker 1: that you love to see it. The great coincidence scare
Speaker 1: the ship get out of Their parents were like pathers no,
Speaker 1: so they their voices were eventually heard. They were able
Speaker 1: to go to a school board meeting to like sort
Speaker 1: of speak up on what they thought. And this one student,
Speaker 1: Eta Gupta said, our thoughts are being invalidated. There's only
Speaker 1: one portion of the community that this band represents and
Speaker 1: it's not ours. Yeah, and like it kicked off like
Speaker 1: a whole like domino effect of of support because they
Speaker 1: were so vocal, Like parents sort of were like damn okay,
Speaker 1: Like I guess I should if if the students also care,
Speaker 1: Like there's ways for me to also get involved. The
Speaker 1: like the band, books thing ended up with the one
Speaker 1: of the authors of some of the books, this guy,
Speaker 1: Brad Meltzer. He came up to give comment, like the
Speaker 1: library said, like, you know what, we don't care what
Speaker 1: the band is like, we will fully stock all of
Speaker 1: these books and make them widely available. And then on Monday,
Speaker 1: this school board unanimously voted to unfreeze or whatever, unrestricted
Speaker 1: whatever words they want to use those books and articles
Speaker 1: and documentaries. However, though along the way, they were like
Speaker 1: mumbling stuff about socialism and like communism, even though nance well,
Speaker 1: you know, because communism obviously like we gotta keep it anyway,
Speaker 1: finemus communism, the famous communist principle of doing what the
Speaker 1: majority of people want to do. Yeah, that's that's awesome,
Speaker 1: That's very encouraging. I do keep coming back to this
Speaker 1: idea that people are like pointing to, how like nationally unpopular,
Speaker 1: like some of this ship is, and like that, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: the majority of people want like recognize that racism is wrong.
Speaker 1: And for some reason just popped into my head as
Speaker 1: we're doing this story. I think it was like my
Speaker 1: inner barometer was like this is getting too encouraging, so
Speaker 1: I have to put something depressing in here that Nazism
Speaker 1: was very unpopular, you as, it was told in the
Speaker 1: thirties for decades. Uh and and then they like below
Speaker 1: the thirties and then they swept to power. They never
Speaker 1: won a popular election. So you know, as long as
Speaker 1: this is hanging around, as long as they are trying
Speaker 1: to silence people who are telling the truth, you know,
Speaker 1: we we can't be safe unless we're you know, constantly
Speaker 1: fighting this ship. Like these kids did it. It's I mean,
Speaker 1: it's like we said earlier, the established power just coming
Speaker 1: in and saying, well, this is what this is what
Speaker 1: people want, and uh, you know then that not reflecting
Speaker 1: those opinions at all. Yeah. Well, one of their high
Speaker 1: school teachers like sort of gave this comedies like, man,
Speaker 1: these kids are like heroes, like you know, like I
Speaker 1: can't believe like the effort they put into this, and
Speaker 1: they that's like everything they did is commendable. But then
Speaker 1: you know, it's just sort of like this idea that
Speaker 1: he was sort of pointing out is like, you know,
Speaker 1: most Americans and school children and most parents they support
Speaker 1: this kind of educational material for their kids and and
Speaker 1: they know that it's actually unfortunately it's part of American history,
Speaker 1: but it must be taught, so it's just like a
Speaker 1: good a feel good story in that sense. But I
Speaker 1: think also, like to your point about like Nazis and stuff,
Speaker 1: I think kids now are just on people now they
Speaker 1: have an ear for dog whistles, Like where before the
Speaker 1: dog whistle only resonated with the dogs you were trying
Speaker 1: to get whose attention you were trying to get, because
Speaker 1: it wasn't resonating at that frequency for you to be
Speaker 1: aware of. And I think so many more people now
Speaker 1: you know, and and in some cases to an extreme,
Speaker 1: can be like can just sort of parse through things
Speaker 1: and understand like what's happening. And I think that's probably
Speaker 1: the best defense that we have, is that people just
Speaker 1: general awareness of like what discrimination looks like in most
Speaker 1: of its forms. That it's like hard to sort of
Speaker 1: like give it like a very you know, innocuous or
Speaker 1: euphemistic name of a bill or something and hope that
Speaker 1: no one notices. Right. I'm so blown away by the
Speaker 1: the idea that learning about racist his Torea is going
Speaker 1: to make people feel guilty, Like it might be my
Speaker 1: ego talking, but I'm like, I read about horrible racist
Speaker 1: white people in the past. I'm like, oh, thank god,
Speaker 1: I'm not like them. You know, it makes me kind
Speaker 1: of feel better about myself right away. They're good, there's
Speaker 1: a baseline at least, okay, doing better, better average, all right,
Speaker 1: I'm yeah, I'm not Nathaniel Bedford Forest. That's a start.
Speaker 1: We just like about this guy, uh, Governor Morris. We
Speaker 1: did an episode about him, and he was this very
Speaker 1: very anti slavery founding father that we'd never heard of before.
Speaker 1: And you know, we're my wife and I talking about
Speaker 1: our public education and not having been taught about this
Speaker 1: guy and wondering why he was so buried, and you know,
Speaker 1: it's like because he makes everybody else look bad. But
Speaker 1: I think in not studying these things, we also lose
Speaker 1: out on learning about cool people like that who were
Speaker 1: doing the right thing, right that there was someone standing
Speaker 1: up to them during the founding of the country because
Speaker 1: we four you thought it was that he we love
Speaker 1: America signed by And also like the way you're taught history.
Speaker 1: I remember I like, when I was very young, I
Speaker 1: didn't think slavery existed until the Civil War, right right?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like that it was like
Speaker 1: a like it became a problem and like there weren't
Speaker 1: slaves during the their Wait what okay, I didn't realize that.
Speaker 1: I mean, like, so it's funny how even how like
Speaker 1: when slavery is even introduced to school kids, like in
Speaker 1: a textbook, it's almost like it's almost treating it in
Speaker 1: a vacuum. It's like, and then there was a civil
Speaker 1: war because slavery happened that one day. Yeah, yeah, they
Speaker 1: were trying to do a slavery and they the good
Speaker 1: guys fought them off, like the Avengers and one right,
Speaker 1: and they'll they'll tell you, well, it was the times.
Speaker 1: That's how people just were. They didn't know any better.
Speaker 1: And then you learn that all these people did know
Speaker 1: better and said, hey, this is bad, and Thomas Jefferson
Speaker 1: and everyone said no to that. So yeah, very clear
Speaker 1: that wasn't a scene in the Hamilton, wasn't They left
Speaker 1: that one out? Hey, y'all trip it about slavery, yuh right,
Speaker 1: Like like they literally leave it unspoken. He's like, we
Speaker 1: know who's doing the planting. It's just like, oh, that's
Speaker 1: actually not good enough. Yeah, oh moment, I'm sorry. The
Speaker 1: bar is too low for that. All right, let's take
Speaker 1: a quick break and we'll be right back, and we're back,
Speaker 1: and so yeah, I wanted to talk about this Amazon
Speaker 1: AI cameras innovation in making the experience of being human
Speaker 1: just a little less livable and more like you're living
Speaker 1: in a dystopia. With our overseer technology, we make sure
Speaker 1: all of our employees are working at their highest output possible.
Speaker 1: So we've heard, you know that that employees feel the
Speaker 1: need to wear adult diapers, go to the bathroom in
Speaker 1: bottles in order to like keep up with the demands
Speaker 1: from Amazon. That Amazon micromanager scheduling to the point that
Speaker 1: you know, if you take a bathroom break, you are
Speaker 1: now behind schedule and you're gonna lose money. And so
Speaker 1: earlier this year, it was announced that Amazon would be
Speaker 1: installing a wonderful new tool to continue in that direction,
Speaker 1: AI powered cameras that go in the delivery vehicles and
Speaker 1: require drivers to as sign biometric consent forms in order
Speaker 1: to keep their jobs. So that's always good when they're
Speaker 1: basically just saying do this or you don't have a
Speaker 1: job anymore on something that is like the most fucking
Speaker 1: horrifying thing I could imagine signing off on biometric consent forms.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even sign that at a doctor's office. I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: fuck you, full biometric consent. They're like, I need to
Speaker 1: take your blood pressure. I'm like, okay, okay, fine, do that.
Speaker 1: And it all sounds creepy, but when you take a
Speaker 1: closer look, you find it's even creepier than it sounds.
Speaker 1: So they supposedly flagged dangerous behavior, including looking at phones
Speaker 1: or even yawning. A system will audibly correct you. Oh,
Speaker 1: audibly correct you with a robot voice. Yeah fuck off. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So they are tracking vehicle location of movements, potential traffic violations,
Speaker 1: and potentially risky driving behavior such as distract or driving
Speaker 1: or drowsy driving. The company that like created this technology
Speaker 1: and sold it to Amazon for like uh sixty one
Speaker 1: million dollars I think, insisted that their product was made
Speaker 1: with the driver's best interest in mind, so drivers be victimized,
Speaker 1: which would be easier to swell if they didn't then
Speaker 1: sell their cameras to fucking Amazon, who just had to
Speaker 1: pay sixty one million dollar settlement after the FTC showed
Speaker 1: that they were screwing their drivers out of their tips.
Speaker 1: They what they did is they lowered the drivers wages,
Speaker 1: but then used the tips to make up the difference,
Speaker 1: so the drivers wouldn't know that they had had their
Speaker 1: wages lowered. And so the cameras which were announced earlier
Speaker 1: this year have now been rolled out in many markets.
Speaker 1: The complaints from workers have been numerous and often horrifying.
Speaker 1: One driver is worried the cameras will film her changing
Speaker 1: the adult diapers she has to wear well making deliveries
Speaker 1: for Amazon. God, they haven't even fucked. I mean, like
Speaker 1: the fact that they're still like, oh yeah, there's we
Speaker 1: still they still have to wear diapers if they need
Speaker 1: to use the bathroom because we haven't loosened that, And
Speaker 1: on top of it, there will be a camera fucking
Speaker 1: recording all that is. Yikes, yeah, the right. We already
Speaker 1: know that drivers peeing in water bottles is a frequent occurrence.
Speaker 1: So like, they force you to do in human things
Speaker 1: their body can't handle, and then film you while doing it,
Speaker 1: so you feel like your privacy is being invaded. Drivers
Speaker 1: are getting distracted driver notifications for simply changing the radio
Speaker 1: station or drinking water, which two things that it's been
Speaker 1: said human beings should be allowed to do. Drivers get
Speaker 1: in trouble if another car cuts them off in traffic,
Speaker 1: which prompts a warning about maintaining a safe distance from
Speaker 1: what one driver described as a dystopian, dark, robotic voice.
Speaker 1: And sometimes they get written up for not stopping at
Speaker 1: stop signs that aren't even there, And so these events
Speaker 1: are recorded and used to tabulate a driver's score at
Speaker 1: the end of the week, which then determines if they're
Speaker 1: eligible for their bonuses. Despite like all those glytches, the
Speaker 1: scoring is not at all transparent and there's no like
Speaker 1: appeals process, So it's just like fucking horrifying. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: you couldn't. You couldn't like make your work more dehumanizing
Speaker 1: than to do ship like this to someone who's working,
Speaker 1: you know, like the fact that it's like sensors are
Speaker 1: going off because of your bodily functions or your impulse
Speaker 1: to yawn or entertain yourself, you change the radio, whatever,
Speaker 1: and some things like you're you're displaying too much human behavior,
Speaker 1: amaton get back, Like it's I can't think of any
Speaker 1: other way to describe this except for it's monitoring people
Speaker 1: for being human, Yes, exactly, showing too much human too
Speaker 1: much humanity. I can't decide if it'd be worse or
Speaker 1: better if it wasn't the dystopian dark robot voice, like
Speaker 1: if they got you know, Jennifer Connelly or something like,
Speaker 1: it's just her voice telling you to stop being human.
Speaker 1: It's almost more dehumanizing. Right, Oh yeah, I P. That's
Speaker 1: definitely going to be the next Yeah, it's definitely gonna
Speaker 1: be the next you know the way that like Ways
Speaker 1: has like boy George and doing the Yeah, they're for
Speaker 1: sure going to be like, guys, good news, problem solved.
Speaker 1: We've paid many different celebrities two to stop pooping yourself
Speaker 1: or so by paid them, we actually just recorded their
Speaker 1: voices when they were interacting with our Lexa devices and
Speaker 1: then used algorithm to make it sound like they were
Speaker 1: saying these things. But yeah, so they are claiming Amazon's
Speaker 1: claiming that the cameras have reduced accidents by forty percent.
Speaker 1: I'm assuming that is like the scoring system, not something
Speaker 1: they're opening up for review. But according to drivers, the
Speaker 1: cameras actually make things less safe in many ways. If
Speaker 1: they so much as look in their side mirrors to
Speaker 1: change lanes, they get a distracted driver alert. Not to mention,
Speaker 1: the constant beeping creates a massive distraction. Two drivers on
Speaker 1: the road, and even if it did create a drop
Speaker 1: in accidents in the short term, it's absolute existential violence
Speaker 1: that is going to come out in the wash somewhere.
Speaker 1: Like Amazon's main innovation that has made them so massive
Speaker 1: is to push humans to the breaking point of just
Speaker 1: like inhumane treatment and hide it in spaces like warehouses
Speaker 1: and delivery vehicles where the public can't see it, and
Speaker 1: like it's it's unsustainable, but they just you know, because
Speaker 1: they're so unregulated, because we live in a moment where
Speaker 1: capital just has all the power and they are have
Speaker 1: the most capital, Like we're just not We're not seeing
Speaker 1: it and anywhere other than people just being like this
Speaker 1: fucking sucks you guys, like we this is not any
Speaker 1: way to live. A friend of mine of Michigan was
Speaker 1: working for Amazon and refused to sign this and was
Speaker 1: told he wouldn't be fired if he didn't sign it,
Speaker 1: but he wouldn't be eligible to drive the vans anymore,
Speaker 1: and therefore wouldn't be given any deliveries to do so
Speaker 1: basically like would have to quit because he wasn't working
Speaker 1: there anymore. Basic your employment status will be frozen, being fired,
Speaker 1: shooting frozen. And it was already a thing up there
Speaker 1: because he he was a driver for it wasn't he
Speaker 1: didn't even work directly for Amazon. It was a small
Speaker 1: delivery company which Amazon employed many of so that they
Speaker 1: didn't know one company had enough employees to unionize. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: and also it helps them with liability for accidents. And like,
Speaker 1: I mean, then everyone can move to one of those
Speaker 1: Amazon towns, right yeah, yeah, just just work and we'll
Speaker 1: give you everything you need. Oh yeah, I'm waiting for
Speaker 1: the for rentals real estate for Amazon to get into
Speaker 1: that game. I mean that discount on your rent I mean,
Speaker 1: and honestly, like that's what those Amazon look like. Those
Speaker 1: company towns are gonna eventually turn into, you know, like
Speaker 1: where like I'm you know, like there's probably gonna be
Speaker 1: a world where it's like, hey man, you can like
Speaker 1: suffer under this other version of capitalism or come to
Speaker 1: our dystopia like like diet slavery town and come bine
Speaker 1: and you know your will tell you you're late from
Speaker 1: your apartment because we know where you are and it'll
Speaker 1: and but hey, all your needs will be met and
Speaker 1: you just give your life to Amazon. Soon we just
Speaker 1: plug you into the machine, use your body as a battery, right,
Speaker 1: and don't tell the witch House skis because we kind
Speaker 1: of got the idea from the matrix. But it's a
Speaker 1: good idea. It's a good idea. Have we covered Amazon
Speaker 1: Towns on on the show? Well, no, I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I mean it's something i've throughout the day of just
Speaker 1: reading all the nightmares. So stories. Yeah, let's talk. We'll
Speaker 1: talk more down to the episode of dailies like guys
Speaker 1: near You. Yeah, all right, let's talk about tomatoes. You know,
Speaker 1: Miles you said you have a kind of love hate
Speaker 1: relationship with Yeah, night Shade Night. I as a kid
Speaker 1: hated him, could not stand them on anything. I hated
Speaker 1: them on sandwiches, I always picked like raw. If it
Speaker 1: was raw, I just did not like it. I could
Speaker 1: always pasta was fine, like pasta, sauce, like things like
Speaker 1: that were fine, like catch up obviously, but like when
Speaker 1: it came to raw tomatoes, I just had this like
Speaker 1: I couldn't. I didn't like taste. Sometimes a texture would
Speaker 1: be weird and unripe tomato, Like who would ruin a
Speaker 1: sandwich for me? As a kid? And I was like yeah,
Speaker 1: And eventually, like I came around, I got older, I
Speaker 1: tried more. I found new ways to enjoy tomatoes, like
Speaker 1: you know, caprazy salad or like saltsa like I didn't
Speaker 1: even like certain salsa sometimes, like like if it was
Speaker 1: like Peko the Guy or something like if it wasn't
Speaker 1: super sauced up, I'd kind of be like. But then
Speaker 1: I a part of me just like grew up. I
Speaker 1: felt like I was like, it's not that bad, and
Speaker 1: when you eat it with other stuff, like, it's actually enjoyable.
Speaker 1: Which brings me to this piece that was they they
Speaker 1: mentioned in the takeout about this Duke student who wrote
Speaker 1: an op ed for the student paper there, the Duke
Speaker 1: Chronicle to go off on the like cafeteria sort of
Speaker 1: their love with like just putting tomatoes on everything, and
Speaker 1: the way this person describes like scenarios in which tomatoes
Speaker 1: work or don't work. I think it spoke directly to
Speaker 1: me and encapsulated my exact beliefs on tomatoes for the
Speaker 1: most part. And I just want to just read some
Speaker 1: of this because it is next level writing. He says.
Speaker 1: Could you read it in a Civil War soldier writing
Speaker 1: home like a like a listless band in the back
Speaker 1: it a pond, taking the first bite of the sandwich.
Speaker 1: My tongue was assaulted by an acrid tanginess that instantly
Speaker 1: overwhelmed any other flavor words. The texture was that of
Speaker 1: wet rubber, chewy and fibrous, yet unnervingly moist and slippery.
Speaker 1: Another ingredient was present, and there was more of it
Speaker 1: than even the avocado that was crucial to the name
Speaker 1: of the sandwich. Once again, Duke Dining had tricked me
Speaker 1: into eating something with tomato. Let's step back for a
Speaker 1: moment and examine the tomato as a fruit. The taste
Speaker 1: of a tomato is pretty good, even if it's strong.
Speaker 1: It's sweet, tangy, just a little bit acidic, and surprisingly savory.
Speaker 1: Not my favorite, but I can understand why others enjoy it.
Speaker 1: The texture is more of a mixed bag, with some
Speaker 1: parts that are relatively rubbery and an uncomfortable amount of juiciness,
Speaker 1: but it too has its time and place. Even if
Speaker 1: my personal preferences are against this particular fruit, it does
Speaker 1: have some value to it. Unfortunately, tomato is forced well
Speaker 1: outside of its appropriate on text. The taste can be
Speaker 1: very overwhelming. Imagine putting even a small amount of ketchup
Speaker 1: on mac and cheese. Even more so, the texture only
Speaker 1: works in a very few settings. This is why many
Speaker 1: iconic tomato dishes like pizza and salsa used tomato sauce
Speaker 1: or crushed slash chopped tomatoes rather than the wet, rubber
Speaker 1: composite that defines a whole tomato. So it goes on
Speaker 1: to say, like, I get it. I respect the tomato.
Speaker 1: It's a great thing, but there's a time and a
Speaker 1: place for it. And his main gripe though, it's more
Speaker 1: about how he says that the duke like dining company,
Speaker 1: like the people that handle like the cafetier and stuff.
Speaker 1: They're putting it on everything, like he just doesn't even
Speaker 1: understand why it's showing up on certain things. I am
Speaker 1: on board with this take. I think the tomatoes should
Speaker 1: be regarded like baking soda or like flower as like
Speaker 1: a thing that is a great ingredient for some of
Speaker 1: my favorites. But don't just like fucking get me the
Speaker 1: powder raw dude like that. That sucks. It's terrible, Like
Speaker 1: pizza with whole tomatoes is so much worse than pizza
Speaker 1: that has tomato sauce. I am personally of the opinion
Speaker 1: of Pika de Gaio is worse than any sauca with
Speaker 1: like stewed or like kind of canned tomatoes that have that,
Speaker 1: you know, a little bit more gloppy and have been
Speaker 1: more flavors. Because it's just it's really simple. It's like,
Speaker 1: you know, cilantra onions and tomato versus like you're getting
Speaker 1: chilies and things like that. Yeah, Eli, where do you stand?
Speaker 1: I'm as a vegetarian. I guess the first question I'd
Speaker 1: ask you is, can you eat a tomato just straight raw,
Speaker 1: nothing on it, not just straight up just slices dry?
Speaker 1: I I can, and I have not not often. I'm
Speaker 1: with the pizza is my line, Like sliced tomatoes cooked
Speaker 1: on a pizza is too much. I can't. I can't
Speaker 1: get with that. But but I'm pro tomato. I'll eat
Speaker 1: tomatoes on on most things without a problem. Like catch
Speaker 1: up catch up. He gets into catch up on mac
Speaker 1: and cheese and stuff, and that's a whole other world.
Speaker 1: And I'm not okay with that. That's not even let's
Speaker 1: not explore that. I mean, I mean that's a bit
Speaker 1: of a straw man. Nobody over the age of six
Speaker 1: puts catch up on mac and cheese, Like why why
Speaker 1: ask us to imagine that just to like valuable space
Speaker 1: with that sentence. But yeah, I mean I I the
Speaker 1: thing is like tomatoes, as he goes on to say,
Speaker 1: it's like it shouldn't be treated as like an like
Speaker 1: an omni topping like that you can put it on everything,
Speaker 1: And I get that too. I think more the thing
Speaker 1: that really puts me off is when ship isn't right,
Speaker 1: Like don't just put don't just force it in there.
Speaker 1: If it's not right, don't put it in there. Because
Speaker 1: there's nothing worse than a young ass tomato that is
Speaker 1: like just really like you're like, am I eating like
Speaker 1: a watermelon rind? Like that part really gets me off,
Speaker 1: but or not gets me off, puts me off. Whatever
Speaker 1: does it for you? Yeah it look thank you, no
Speaker 1: judgment here. But I think like the other thing is
Speaker 1: there are times I really like it and there it
Speaker 1: does bring an added dose of like moisture and you know,
Speaker 1: a texture to a sandwich. But I can't say it
Speaker 1: can be on everything. That's just yeah, that's that's fair.
Speaker 1: I wonder I think in the vegetarian experience, like tomato
Speaker 1: is a lot of substance on your sandwich, Like you
Speaker 1: kind of have to have it or you lose a
Speaker 1: half inchy or sandwich was, which is already going to
Speaker 1: be lacking compared to most people's right, right, yeah, and
Speaker 1: and I'm and I'm fine with it, but in that place,
Speaker 1: like let's make sure they're right, make sure they're right dead,
Speaker 1: because there's only a few. I mean, like, I like
Speaker 1: cucumbers without anything. I'm I love I love him great cucumber.
Speaker 1: I don't need ship to eat like a like a
Speaker 1: little Persian cucumber or something like that, but a tomato,
Speaker 1: unfortunately for me, I think I think that's sort of
Speaker 1: the difference is like it's one of those things like
Speaker 1: on its own, by itself. It's I'm not fully on
Speaker 1: board with that flavor deep down, and I have to
Speaker 1: I've had to accept that. And I don't argue cucumbers
Speaker 1: are harder to funk up than tomatoes. Like cucumbers are
Speaker 1: just generally like good on everything. My only thing with
Speaker 1: cucumbers is that they dominate flavor. Cucumber is the number
Speaker 1: one taste I'm getting. Yeah, let's take the skin, but
Speaker 1: a little bit, if you peel it a little bit,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, that gives it a less
Speaker 1: a little bit of a less of an edge. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean again, I don't mean to say I just
Speaker 1: like tomatoes. I do like tomatoes and I have They're
Speaker 1: just for me. I get it's a very context specific thing,
Speaker 1: and I think that's what maybe this op ed was
Speaker 1: powerful and raising my awareness that I'm like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is a context fruit, not a on everything type. I
Speaker 1: order salads without tomatoes, like I ask, like I specifically
Speaker 1: like say no tomatoes please, like when if I'm ordering
Speaker 1: a salad. The this did like kind of bring to
Speaker 1: my attention like that I love like tomatoes as a
Speaker 1: tomatoes might be my favorite ingredient because I love very narrows.
Speaker 1: I love salsa, like those are two of my favorite
Speaker 1: like things in the world to eat. But I just
Speaker 1: do not funk with the raw tomato on its own.
Speaker 1: Thank you for giving my life meaning and purpose, young
Speaker 1: nineteen year old. Essentially, it's probably a freshman, right who's
Speaker 1: like going to the dining hall, like probably just like
Speaker 1: just a kid too smart for his own good, and
Speaker 1: he's like hell and like his friends like dude, that's
Speaker 1: so funny the way you're like taking it down like that,
Speaker 1: because all his bros Are like dude, fuck this again,
Speaker 1: and he has to go back and just say like
Speaker 1: this this, there's this one line where he's like, it's
Speaker 1: a mistake they make frequently at a variety of venues,
Speaker 1: and he starts calling out the individual places on campus. Obviously,
Speaker 1: Twinnies has snuck tomatoes into many innocent looking meals, but
Speaker 1: nearly every sandwich sandwich offering at calf includes tomatoes, and
Speaker 1: so do many of the grapes that part. I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh many of the crap. Yeah, And almost every bed bound,
Speaker 1: bread bound bite to eat at Pitchforks comes with tomato
Speaker 1: on it, from the burger and the fried chicken sandwich
Speaker 1: to the moderately more appropriate salsa on tacos. Even beloved
Speaker 1: campus eatery The Loops, lap slices onto most of their dishes, Like,
Speaker 1: don't put tomato on a on a fried chicken sandwich,
Speaker 1: don't you interneering with the crunch. I love a nice
Speaker 1: crepe with some Natella banana and a big fucking slice
Speaker 1: of tomato right in there, just a juicy egs just
Speaker 1: half of just half that thing. Don't even slice it,
Speaker 1: just halfen it up in there. Uh Eli. It's been
Speaker 1: a pleasure of having you. Man, Hey, it's been great
Speaker 1: being here. Where can people find you? And Folly can
Speaker 1: find me on Twitter and Instagram, I'm at Oh great,
Speaker 1: it's Eli on both. There you go. You can find
Speaker 1: our show Ridiculous Romance at rideck Romance on both those
Speaker 1: platforms as well. There you go. And is there a
Speaker 1: tweet or some of the work of social media you've
Speaker 1: been enjoying? You know, just this morning I came across
Speaker 1: a tweet from Danis Schwartz. It is a really funny
Speaker 1: comedian and it just said Wizards knew about the Holocaust
Speaker 1: and used none of their magic to help. And I
Speaker 1: didn't know what that meant, but it turns out it's
Speaker 1: the premise for the new Fantastic Beasts movie is called
Speaker 1: The Secrets of Dumbledore, and it is about the Wizard's
Speaker 1: involvement leading up to World War Two. Oh no, And
Speaker 1: I can't imagine why, Like I think I was. I
Speaker 1: think we were all better off just assuming that that
Speaker 1: you those two universes didn't exist in the same place. Honestly,
Speaker 1: like I was better off never even thinking about the
Speaker 1: Wizards and the Nazis at the same time in my head.
Speaker 1: So I don't know why this is the premise for
Speaker 1: the new movie. But that's that's supposed to endear them
Speaker 1: or there an be like or is it like trying
Speaker 1: to like justify like to say, like, hey, it was
Speaker 1: a tough time man time. Even though they had powers
Speaker 1: no human had ever seen, they weren't sure if they
Speaker 1: should help these other people who were in dire straits.
Speaker 1: That's that's amazing that, like the the whole Harry Potter
Speaker 1: like universe is kind of based around the Nazi metaphor,
Speaker 1: but then it's like kind of an imperfect one. So
Speaker 1: it's funny that they're like, yeah, they're not Nazis at all,
Speaker 1: that we were never saying that actually, and uh so
Speaker 1: here is what I've also had the thought that, like
Speaker 1: the Wizarding World is kind of like the Confederate South
Speaker 1: in the sense that they never learned to do anything
Speaker 1: because they were just always reliant on this like horrifying
Speaker 1: thing that made everything super easy for them. But that's
Speaker 1: a it's a longer discussion. Yeah, Miles, where could you
Speaker 1: will find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying? Twitter?
Speaker 1: Instagram at Miles of Gray. Also the other show for
Speaker 1: Twenty Day Fiance was Sophia Alexandra Comb check that out
Speaker 1: a tweet that I like, Wow, what got A got
Speaker 1: a couple of good ones. The first one is from
Speaker 1: Taming Fred Savage at Fred Taming tweated alive you may
Speaker 1: be entitled to compensation, which just feels like about right
Speaker 1: about the mood right now. I think I'm old this.
Speaker 1: This can't be. There must be a class action suit
Speaker 1: I can get in on for for like being like this.
Speaker 1: And then literary agent kneading jerk at gen Delman tweeted,
Speaker 1: call me maybe is ten years old. The popularity of
Speaker 1: the song has officially outlasted their concept of calling someone
Speaker 1: on the phone and hopefulness. So yeah, and so yeah.
Speaker 1: There's a few concepts that we talked about today. Let's see.
Speaker 1: Pet Regan tweeted, I think there should be an oscar
Speaker 1: category called TV show that gets an oscar actually, which
Speaker 1: I think is a good idea. The oh Eli Cremndal
Speaker 1: two days in a row tweet remembering the time I
Speaker 1: started a new job and nobody told me what to do,
Speaker 1: so I spent two full weeks just scrolling Instagram before
Speaker 1: finally asking my manager what my job was. Office jobs
Speaker 1: are a literal joke, which ties in nicely with our
Speaker 1: conversation yesterday about bullshit jobs. And then Eric Kurtin tweeted,
Speaker 1: you're in her d m s. She's actually a catfish
Speaker 1: account I created. You're at my d MS weird dating now.
Speaker 1: I love you so much. You can find me on
Speaker 1: Twitter at Jack Underscore O Brian. You can find us
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Speaker 1: and a website, Daily zi guys dot com, where we
Speaker 1: post our episodes on our footnote where we link off
Speaker 1: to the information that we talked about in today's episode,
Speaker 1: as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles,
Speaker 1: what song sending people to go, Oh, this is a
Speaker 1: treat and maybe a treat for people who love, you know,
Speaker 1: dub reggae, old school you know Trojan type stuff from
Speaker 1: back in the day. But there's this artist named paccy
Speaker 1: Man and I played a song, well the fun I've
Speaker 1: never heard of this like dub artist. This is this dude,
Speaker 1: Patty Garcia, who's this Puerto Rican artist who is currently
Speaker 1: making like reggae dubbed songs, but like quite literally honoring
Speaker 1: the same recording techniques of the of his predecessors, and
Speaker 1: it sounds so authentically just like of the time. It
Speaker 1: blows my mind. And I just love like when musicians
Speaker 1: and producers put in like that level of effort to
Speaker 1: really try and replicate like to the like the tape
Speaker 1: sound or the tape they use to get these tracks going.
Speaker 1: So this is a modern song that you're gonna think
Speaker 1: came out of the fucking late sixties early seventies from Jamaica,
Speaker 1: but it's actually uh patchy man p A c h
Speaker 1: y mn. And this track is called Guy Goodwin and
Speaker 1: all this stuff is just so dope to listen to. Um.
Speaker 1: And if you like that group Krungbin, who I've called
Speaker 1: out a few times on the show, he's actually touring
Speaker 1: with them. Um, So that's I would probably be a
Speaker 1: dope show to check out. Yeah. Alright, Well, the Daily
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