Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two oh three,
Speaker 1: Episode five of the daily production of My Heart Radio.
Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we take a deep dive
Speaker 1: into America's shared consciousness. It's Friday, September. My name is
Speaker 1: Jack O'Brien a K. And I'm just gonna tell you
Speaker 1: up top that this is being sung to Maya's Ghetto Superstar.
Speaker 1: You know, my vocal range has been described as a
Speaker 1: lot of things, but usually as unmiya leg So here
Speaker 1: we go. I've got swollen balls, that is what they are.
Speaker 1: Nicky tried to warn guess I'll never learn. Now my
Speaker 1: come ain't ship, and my pants don't fit. I got
Speaker 1: the VACS and now I'm screwed off. Huh, don't have
Speaker 1: COVID butt my balls grew. Uh. That is courtesy of
Speaker 1: Jason Chris. Yeah, and I am thrilled to be joined
Speaker 1: as always by my co host, Mr Miles Gray. And
Speaker 1: this is to the tune of Suzanne Vegas Tom Steiner.
Speaker 1: I am zyke gang in the morning at the VACS
Speaker 1: line on the counter. I am waiting at the counter
Speaker 1: for the man to pour the cold broof and my
Speaker 1: sperm count strop to halfway and my balls are like tomatoes,
Speaker 1: and if you like unreaped tomatoes, you should not be
Speaker 1: coming in. Do do do do, Okay, And that's a
Speaker 1: combo between the interdimensional Technician and Sam say what on discord, Look,
Speaker 1: the nikki and large ball gate thing has not still
Speaker 1: we haven't escaped that from a k A. S. And
Speaker 1: you have combined that with the duke piece we discussed
Speaker 1: yesterday about unripe tomatoes. So wow, yeah, yeah, yeah, out
Speaker 1: of here, I thought that was a reference to ball size. No,
Speaker 1: they just they really doubted in for me because they
Speaker 1: knew of my distaste displeasure with unripe tomato. So, you know,
Speaker 1: thank you for listening. Yeah, yeah, Okay, Well, we are
Speaker 1: thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a
Speaker 1: very funny comedian and writer for cartoons like Thundercat's Roar
Speaker 1: and who gives voice to the love of all things fall.
Speaker 1: She has a Twitch talk show called fall Talk. She
Speaker 1: once posted a Twitter appreciation threat of the truly staggering
Speaker 1: sweater game of the characters in the film and Nightmare
Speaker 1: on Elm Street for the dream Master. She's a halloween
Speaker 1: and horror enthusiast who has a comedy duo called Red
Speaker 1: and Yellow with former guests Kate Raft. Please welcome the brilliant,
Speaker 1: the hilarious Joan Hayley Fall guys, thanks for having me
Speaker 1: Emmy nominated too, right, weren't you nominated for me? Technically? Now,
Speaker 1: technically I was like I was involved with the project
Speaker 1: that was like Emmy nominated, and then I once called
Speaker 1: myself Emmy nominated on Twitter and people called me out
Speaker 1: on it. You know, I constantly say I've I've won
Speaker 1: Oscars and nobody, Yeah, but you know who cares. It
Speaker 1: was also like the Creative Arts Emmy. No one knows
Speaker 1: what the fuss going on over there. I respect online
Speaker 1: contributions to the video Arts. Okay, someone who has been
Speaker 1: with people who have been nominated for that's a big deal. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right, But I'm just like, who hasn't been nominated
Speaker 1: for Creative Arts Emmy at this point? I haven't, I
Speaker 1: have not. You should drag me for it. But but yeah,
Speaker 1: I was just posting. I thought it was like I
Speaker 1: was just posting I've been to I've been to the
Speaker 1: project I went with. I went to the Emmys for
Speaker 1: three times, and I was just like posting my like
Speaker 1: looks and I was like, this is what a hot
Speaker 1: Emmy nominee looks like, and someone had to be like, um,
Speaker 1: I checked the facts and you are not actually Emmy
Speaker 1: nomine I was like, wow, I want to show my
Speaker 1: like cute dresses off. Why yeah, get out? Yeah this, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're there. You know what I mean, what's the problem?
Speaker 1: Pre live let me say whatever I want. What a
Speaker 1: poor use of that person's life force. Yeah. I came
Speaker 1: up around the same time as Matt Mazzani at uc B.
Speaker 1: So I remember I think you were both working on
Speaker 1: gay right right right, so like so when I saw
Speaker 1: those images, I said, well, that's the team. That's it.
Speaker 1: I mean, not right there. And you know, Mazzoni was
Speaker 1: officially Emmy nominated at one for those so you know,
Speaker 1: I don't want to steal his sunder, but exactly, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a condictat if he was like a wrestler the
Speaker 1: Alaskan Thunder. I'm having dinner with mattens not that anyone.
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is interesting, but I'm having
Speaker 1: a dinner with Matt Maissonni tomorrow said I'm gonna say, Miles,
Speaker 1: yeah from the early days. Yeah, yeah, I've been to
Speaker 1: I've been three times. Never wine. There we go, and
Speaker 1: that's our show, y'all. Yeah, I was gonna say, as
Speaker 1: soon as they start giving out Emmy's or Oscars for
Speaker 1: production design on a Zoom call, you will surely be
Speaker 1: nominated or win because your backdrop is I think we
Speaker 1: have officially crowned the best Zoom background to date of
Speaker 1: the hundreds of episodes, hundreds of zoom backgrounds that we've seen.
Speaker 1: It's so good. It looks like a fake one that
Speaker 1: someone just puts up like a wallpaper. But you have
Speaker 1: I said when I said, Yo, Jon, are you coming
Speaker 1: to us from the Max from Saved by the Bell?
Speaker 1: But this is just your home office. This is my office,
Speaker 1: and I'm going to like Max slash like early nineties
Speaker 1: Disney Star vibes. Yeah, but yeah, sometimes I will be
Speaker 1: like I'll be on like a zoom call with somebody
Speaker 1: forty five minutes, I'll be right back and when they
Speaker 1: see me like physically stepped into the background, their minds
Speaker 1: are shattered like the prestige of a trick. Right. Wow. Anyways,
Speaker 1: very impressive. We're going to get to know you a
Speaker 1: little bit better in a moment. First, a couple of
Speaker 1: things we're talking about on today's episode, we are going
Speaker 1: to talk about, you know, just the idea of turning
Speaker 1: the camera off during zoom meetings. Apparently that is good
Speaker 1: for your mental and physical health, to turn your camera
Speaker 1: off during zoom meetings. We will talk about the bipartisan
Speaker 1: attempt at police reform and how that went predictably awry.
Speaker 1: And then we're gonna talk some Halloween stuff and honor
Speaker 1: of our esteemed guest, we'll talk about why this is
Speaker 1: going to be a record breaking Halloween and also look
Speaker 1: at some of the topical Halloween costumes that are being
Speaker 1: floated thus far. All of that plenty more. But first, Joan,
Speaker 1: we like to ask our guest, what is something from
Speaker 1: your search history? Well, the most recent thing from my
Speaker 1: search history is fright Rags. Elvira on Fright Rags is
Speaker 1: a T shirt company. They it's all or it's like
Speaker 1: kind of like all spooky apparel. They recently put out
Speaker 1: a there's a bunch of places have put out like
Speaker 1: a viral collapse in like the last like week or
Speaker 1: tire because I don't know why the fish we like
Speaker 1: the official date is, but like we've decided like the
Speaker 1: last two weeks are like the fourtieth anniversary of just
Speaker 1: Elvira existing. So I I've been just like buying a
Speaker 1: lot of Elvira merch and I'm specifically looking for a
Speaker 1: design that this company called fright Rags put out and
Speaker 1: I bought it. I bought the t shirts. Look like, uh,
Speaker 1: it's a recreation of her, like nine one Cour's Light ad,
Speaker 1: which was like the official like Coore's Light was the
Speaker 1: official beer of Halloween in ninete. I've yet to find
Speaker 1: out what the official beer of one is Halloween. Is
Speaker 1: there like a Court of the Hollow, like the Halloween Triumvirate,
Speaker 1: like determine that right? Elvira just like informs you afterwards
Speaker 1: what the official beer as She's no, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: sure she wasn't getting paid. The design has been altered
Speaker 1: so it doesn't say like core is Light anymore, and
Speaker 1: it's like the official like it's like the official Fear
Speaker 1: of nineteen one, because I think they couldn't technically say.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I guess they lost the Coors Light's license.
Speaker 1: I'd know now. But it's a cool shirt nonetheless, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's very cool shirt. Yeah, what what happened? What happened
Speaker 1: to our beer ads. You know, we're just dilly dillying
Speaker 1: around and U we don't have Alvira like we needed. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I got too clever or something. She was in the
Speaker 1: news recently right because she's in a relation she has been,
Speaker 1: like in a nineteen year relationship with a woman. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was like I don't know about you, but guys,
Speaker 1: but like that was like Queer Christmas where I was
Speaker 1: like I literally got some I got like texted about
Speaker 1: that like like thirteen times. People are like have you
Speaker 1: seen this? Have you seen I was like, yes, I've
Speaker 1: seen this, but yes it is if it is like
Speaker 1: a queer national holiday now and then Elvira coming out day,
Speaker 1: it's like it's huge, Like it's huge. Yeah, I was so.
Speaker 1: I had such a crush on Elvira as a kid,
Speaker 1: and I remember my dad's friend was friends with her
Speaker 1: and I saw her like as herself and at that
Speaker 1: point I was like it really it gave me like
Speaker 1: this reality check about like the media and I was
Speaker 1: like everyone's a person, and it was Elvira. Seeing Elvira
Speaker 1: not just totally made up that I was like, see,
Speaker 1: we're just we're just playing a part out here. I
Speaker 1: had that I had, like she she is one of
Speaker 1: those figures, especially if you grew up like late eighties,
Speaker 1: early nineties, that like, yeah, she just Elviras just existed,
Speaker 1: and you could believe in a world when you were
Speaker 1: a little that like, yeah, people like Elvira just existed.
Speaker 1: Like it's like fine, It's like when you first kind
Speaker 1: of like come to terms with the fact that, like
Speaker 1: Kermit the Frog is just a puppet, it's like, oh fuck,
Speaker 1: Like there's a little less tat in the world. But also,
Speaker 1: Cassandra Peterson is like magic. I'm reading her autobiography right
Speaker 1: now and it's the best. And you know, I love her.
Speaker 1: I love her. I love her as Elvira or just
Speaker 1: as herselves. And I had to learn. I had to
Speaker 1: learn that they were both the same person and and
Speaker 1: and you know, change my expectations of what the fucking
Speaker 1: TV was showing me, which is like, you know, I
Speaker 1: Viral just goes home in that dope as convertible and
Speaker 1: then he probably sleeps in a coffin. And yeah, she
Speaker 1: lives in a coffin. She lives in a haunted house.
Speaker 1: She's corny all the time. She's not a comedian. She's
Speaker 1: she's a real person. People talk like that in real
Speaker 1: life because there there is a word. I could move
Speaker 1: into a neighborhood one day and be living next to
Speaker 1: a werewolf. That's the thing that could happen, right right
Speaker 1: it has I still believe that, and I still believe
Speaker 1: one day I could have a werewolf neighbor. John, do
Speaker 1: you have a favorite piece of like spooky merch besides
Speaker 1: the Elvira's shirt? You just, Oh, my gosh, I have
Speaker 1: so much spooky merch that it's hard to narrow it down.
Speaker 1: I do love right now, I will just say I'm
Speaker 1: actually I'm wearing right now. You can't see, but I
Speaker 1: but I got this like nightmare on Elm Street pattern
Speaker 1: like high waisted skirt that I realized that I'm really like,
Speaker 1: I'm really digging. It's like got like pop punk. It's
Speaker 1: like it's like spooky but got some like pop punk vibe.
Speaker 1: So and it's like we've all decided that it's pop
Speaker 1: punk fall like this is the fault of pop pop punk.
Speaker 1: I like this right now because it incorporates like my
Speaker 1: two false setics, which is like always spooky and right
Speaker 1: now pop punk. What is something you think is overrated. Oh, um,
Speaker 1: you know what I think is overrated cupcakes? Cupcakes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just don't like I feel like anyone I've never like.
Speaker 1: I'm always like, never satisfied of the cupcake. I feel
Speaker 1: like any cupcake place I've gone to, that's like, these
Speaker 1: are the most amazing cupcakes. I've never liked them more
Speaker 1: than like I would. I never liked them more that
Speaker 1: I was just like an actual piece of cake, and um,
Speaker 1: usually they're not. I don't know, Yeah, cupcakes, give me
Speaker 1: just a piece of cake. Give me an actual piece
Speaker 1: of cake. That. Yeah, we've I think we've definitely, I
Speaker 1: mean what we hit peak cupcake and well I feel
Speaker 1: like twenty yes, you know what I mean. I feel
Speaker 1: like that was when people in l A, like you know,
Speaker 1: the cupcake A t M s were popping. I feel
Speaker 1: like every person who I knew was that who was
Speaker 1: like a chef for getting into the culinary scene, their
Speaker 1: first gig was working at a cupcake place. And now, yeah,
Speaker 1: I just it's it's the icing to me, that is
Speaker 1: the most important part. Yeah, that's usually what sets a
Speaker 1: good cupcake apart. I agree, But I feel like you
Speaker 1: always get more icing, you get more icing with a
Speaker 1: piece of cake probably more like equally, because like if
Speaker 1: you bite a cupcake like you know, like a fucking animal,
Speaker 1: just half your face is just inundated with icing, you know,
Speaker 1: strategic eating. I don't like that. Maybe that's what's going
Speaker 1: I'm getting. I think that you're getting to something. I
Speaker 1: think it's like the frosting cake ratio. Cupcakes. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like a mountain of icing you gotta get through. And
Speaker 1: then I was like, pies are coming back. I mean
Speaker 1: pies think you know, that's the new wave and brown
Speaker 1: I don't know what what is the new wave now?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean it is fall, which is
Speaker 1: definitely pie time. Yeah, personal pand pies. Is that something
Speaker 1: you get like a little scott Yeah, let me skill
Speaker 1: it with ice cream on top. Talking to apples to
Speaker 1: apples in terms of cupcake to cup pie, I don't know, right,
Speaker 1: I like it like a Hi. Yeah, I guess a
Speaker 1: hand pie, you know, like something you know, I guess
Speaker 1: would be the equivalent, which I feel like, where the
Speaker 1: funk are those? You know, are people just shook because
Speaker 1: McDonald's makes them? They're like, I don't know, we can't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I totally agree with you guys about the icing ratio,
Speaker 1: because the best cupcake I've ever had, and probably the
Speaker 1: only cupcake that has delivered on the premise of cupcakes
Speaker 1: to me is I think it's from a place called
Speaker 1: susie Ques. But what make Susie cakes? That's the one.
Speaker 1: And they dig out the middle of the cake and
Speaker 1: so there's just like extra icing in the middle of it,
Speaker 1: so it's almost like a scooped bagel, a scooped cupcake
Speaker 1: with just a little nuclear icing coreps divt of icing.
Speaker 1: Their strawberry cupcakes are they almost make going to children's
Speaker 1: birthday parties worth it? Not you get there, you're in
Speaker 1: the back, you're like fucking Susie cakes or what hire
Speaker 1: screeching because you got wind of a Kirkland sheet cake.
Speaker 1: I do love a cheet cake, though, say like, fine,
Speaker 1: the Susie cakes are Kirstly the cheat cake. If it's either,
Speaker 1: I can I can work, but I will loudly review
Speaker 1: a birthday party, a children's birthday party that that's it's
Speaker 1: important the parents know where they're falling short. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know, I know you did not actually do that,
Speaker 1: but I know you to be the person you're so
Speaker 1: analytical and observant that I know you are having these
Speaker 1: thoughts at a child's birthday party? What is the thing
Speaker 1: that you see that you you're like gonna this birthday party? Oh,
Speaker 1: what is the thing or something? You all? I wouldn't
Speaker 1: do that for MIC's birthday, you know, not not enough
Speaker 1: places to sit. They'll put food out and then you
Speaker 1: just can't sit anywhere to eat it. There's uh, not
Speaker 1: introducing parents to one another. I think named tags are
Speaker 1: are great because no parents knows the other parents names
Speaker 1: or or what their relation is to any anything. Right,
Speaker 1: So yeah, that that's one. That and then just not
Speaker 1: going big enough. You gotta get farm animals there. You
Speaker 1: gotta get a bounce you gotta get a bounce house.
Speaker 1: You gotta get fetti cannon. I want to see magic tricks. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, entertaining me to like entertain me too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And if you expect me to come to your child's
Speaker 1: birthday party, provide like to bounce houses one adult size. Yes,
Speaker 1: I just going the kids bounce house and not them over. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean if there's only one bounce house there, it's
Speaker 1: like you heard a child and you're like, this is
Speaker 1: on you guys you. You didn't provide me with a
Speaker 1: bounce house, right, So what do you want me to do?
Speaker 1: Jump up and on the grass, like like jumping rope
Speaker 1: without it? Come on now, I think like there's also
Speaker 1: it sounds like what you're saying the two of you
Speaker 1: is like a great children's birthday party is like a
Speaker 1: Pixar film. Yeah, it's like you go and you're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: the kids love it, and you know what? She was
Speaker 1: actually not mad at all yea, rather than like over
Speaker 1: emphasizing the children's phone because like I like your old
Speaker 1: man take jactly like not enough places to sit and
Speaker 1: the food yeah, I mean it's hard to eat standing up. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's um. I had another thought and it has disappeared
Speaker 1: from my brain speaking up of old were not these parties?
Speaker 1: They have enough for kids sitting down. There's so much
Speaker 1: more you can drag out these children's birthday parties us
Speaker 1: theme Come on, kids. There's a children's entertainer Mr. Silly
Speaker 1: that I think I've talked about before on air show
Speaker 1: because we had him at my five year old's birthday party.
Speaker 1: I've never seen a comedian kill as hard as this
Speaker 1: man killed, Like kids were falling laughing so hard they
Speaker 1: were falling over and like bonking their heads like on
Speaker 1: the ground like that. It was deaf comedy jam like
Speaker 1: season one levels. Just reactions from the I like, I
Speaker 1: went home to see my I went home for the
Speaker 1: first time in like two years, and I spent all
Speaker 1: the time with my two year old nephew and just
Speaker 1: watching him, like how amazing he thinks something like Daniel
Speaker 1: Tiger is. It's like like, I'll never like, I'll never
Speaker 1: listen this response. This will never be as important too.
Speaker 1: There's no piece of media that will be as important
Speaker 1: to an adult as like Daniel Tiger is right now
Speaker 1: to my fucking nephew. It's just very fascinating to watch.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, why why do I? Why do I?
Speaker 1: Why am I striving so hard to right for anything
Speaker 1: but kids media? Because this is the only this is
Speaker 1: the thing, this is the thing that you can actually
Speaker 1: impact people with. So have you seen the Mr Silly website?
Speaker 1: I think I booked it. I mean it's just wild
Speaker 1: the way they describe it like that. They're like, no,
Speaker 1: we got the only motherfucking Mr. Silly, Like on this
Speaker 1: website says we are the home of the one and
Speaker 1: only Mr Silly requested all around the world. Our highest
Speaker 1: demand performer is this dude like fucking children's parties, Elvis
Speaker 1: or some sh there's like a Mr Silly to like
Speaker 1: there was a Gallic or two just going around like
Speaker 1: that is not Mr Silly. That's Mr. Silly's brother. Yeah,
Speaker 1: do not buy those tickets. His material is all um,
Speaker 1: you know, it sucks like for for an adult. From
Speaker 1: an adult perspective, it's like bad, bad jokes. But now
Speaker 1: I've been at for parties and the the urge for
Speaker 1: the parents to sit there and watch and like just
Speaker 1: be like I don't get it, like what the fun
Speaker 1: going on? It's like so weird just being like Okay,
Speaker 1: I guess whatever you say. That's pretty funny. Yeah, people
Speaker 1: book him a year in advance. Y. Yeah, wow, he's jack.
Speaker 1: I mean, let's be real, if you really think you
Speaker 1: can do better than Mr Silly, I bet you could.
Speaker 1: You could probably make some dope if you really think
Speaker 1: you know, I can't. I'm just he's he's can't. He's
Speaker 1: nailed a very specific thing. I think through just repidit
Speaker 1: like the way a stand up builds there, you know,
Speaker 1: guess and check sort of thing. Uh, and he's just
Speaker 1: done five thousand children's birthday parties and he's like the
Speaker 1: Beatles when they were in Germany, just getting those directions
Speaker 1: before they Joan, what is something you think is underrated
Speaker 1: pop punk music? I'm gonna say because I'm really into
Speaker 1: it right now, And um, I I think I like
Speaker 1: looked like I think when it was actually at a time,
Speaker 1: I like kind of like looked at it. I looked
Speaker 1: at it kind of scornfully. And I've just recently really
Speaker 1: gotten into it and I'm like, hell, yeah, I went
Speaker 1: to like a pop punk knight the other night. I know,
Speaker 1: I don't know I should be telling in the public
Speaker 1: that I'm going to how dancing I am, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, look you're I mean you're vaccinated. It's like
Speaker 1: all that, but it's uh, the event was all only
Speaker 1: only allowed in if you had your VAX card. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I got, like I've friends with me to pop punk
Speaker 1: nights a couple of weeks ago, and I like lost
Speaker 1: my mind. I had so much fun. And now I'm
Speaker 1: having a pop punk fall. I'm into it so hard.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's it's that is it underrated?
Speaker 1: It feels like under it feels like underrated. It feels
Speaker 1: like there's a level of like scorn or like it's
Speaker 1: a subverb. It's a like a little bit of a
Speaker 1: like sub genre of music that was for like you know,
Speaker 1: weird sad lunch table kids in two thousand five. But
Speaker 1: I'm like, there's a lot of shitting here that I
Speaker 1: just really like and like it really gets me going.
Speaker 1: It's I looked for all the pop punk compilations on
Speaker 1: my peloton. Now that's what gets me moving. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: sound is definitely like I I noticed it now so
Speaker 1: much in music like of new artists, and part of
Speaker 1: me is like, man like I didn't. I didn't I
Speaker 1: get that it was so prevalent, But it's interesting to
Speaker 1: see like sort of manifest itself now, like in a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff I hear, especially like like sort of
Speaker 1: like hip hop pop punk crossover kind of tracks. I here,
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's fucking wild. Like to me, that sounds
Speaker 1: like like a jokey thing I would do in high
Speaker 1: school to just like do emo voice over a rap beat,
Speaker 1: But now like this ship kind of goes Yeah, Like
Speaker 1: let's think a lot of Rodrigo. A lot of her
Speaker 1: stuff is like it's just so pop punk influenced that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like it is having a little bit of
Speaker 1: a renaissance right now, and maybe that's why we are
Speaker 1: seeing it these nights kind of like correct creep back
Speaker 1: in uh into like the l A dance scene. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that's where I am right now. I'm I'm fully having
Speaker 1: like a pot my like latent life pop punk renaissance.
Speaker 1: What were you listening to when pop punk was going
Speaker 1: down with you weren't I can't even think of what
Speaker 1: I was listening to in like two thousand five. That
Speaker 1: was so long ago. What were the other what was
Speaker 1: the other music in two thousand five, like Bling blingt rap?
Speaker 1: I wasn't listening. I think I'm just doing metal. I
Speaker 1: think I think I'm just always like fifteen years behind
Speaker 1: and what I'm listening like listening to you listening to
Speaker 1: like house music from the nineties, and so I was
Speaker 1: listening to like a lot of like Salton Pepper and
Speaker 1: like the Yeah. So yeah, I think I'm just always
Speaker 1: like wait, like the other genre of music I'm getting
Speaker 1: really into right now is like and this is like
Speaker 1: forty years out of day, but I'm super into like
Speaker 1: new wave right now I got the night Flight app
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm living horror. It's okay. Uh. Night Flight
Speaker 1: was this like block of programming on the USA network
Speaker 1: like in the early eighties that was kind of like
Speaker 1: it was the music video thing that kind of like
Speaker 1: predated MTV, and it was just like a lot of
Speaker 1: music videos. And then they have this this show, this
Speaker 1: regular show called New Wave Theater that was hosted by
Speaker 1: this like weirdo named Peter Iver's I think in the
Speaker 1: who was actually like murdered like in N three, you
Speaker 1: know what, they've never solved as murder. But it was
Speaker 1: kind of like this look at the That show itself
Speaker 1: was kind of like a look at the a new
Speaker 1: wave scene in the early eighties, and it's like just
Speaker 1: a lot weirder and more eclectic than I think people
Speaker 1: know or give New Wave four. But anyways, the night
Speaker 1: Flight app is like a streaming app that just has
Speaker 1: like all that like they literally like not just like
Speaker 1: the shows themselves, but like full like here's like four
Speaker 1: hours with commercials of like how this stuff aired in
Speaker 1: early eighties. It's very cool like that. Yeah, I like
Speaker 1: anything that like fully like I like an app that
Speaker 1: like fully puts me into a vibe a like mindset
Speaker 1: of like what was this subculture? Like what was it
Speaker 1: like to just watch TV back then? And I'm really
Speaker 1: really loving it's Yeah, so I get. I mean, yes,
Speaker 1: just based on your wallpaper, I know you're very into
Speaker 1: immersive experiences. I'd like to trap myself in nostalogia. Who doesn't.
Speaker 1: I'm just as guilty. I was watching a playoff game
Speaker 1: of basketball from the year two thousand, hooting and holler
Speaker 1: and like it was braying new to me, and I
Speaker 1: was like, I needed this, I needed to time travel check.
Speaker 1: I like, I've never been a big sports fan, but
Speaker 1: like early pandemic, when ESPN would just be airing like
Speaker 1: World Series, and I'm like, yeah, hell, yeah, this is
Speaker 1: what I'm into. This just looks Yeah, there's like something
Speaker 1: about the grain of it too that even if I'm
Speaker 1: not interested in, like this feels real and authentic at
Speaker 1: the time. Yeah, alright, let's take a quick break and
Speaker 1: we'll be right back. And we're back, and let's talk
Speaker 1: about zoom meetings because there's just been a ton of
Speaker 1: research done since the pandemic kind of sent us all
Speaker 1: to working from home and sent all our meetings online
Speaker 1: and This is kind of a interesting finding Miles that
Speaker 1: you pointed out here. I mean, just I think everyone has,
Speaker 1: through the course of the last you know what, eight
Speaker 1: nineteen months, has had to endure numerous online calls. Uh,
Speaker 1: and sometimes you don't. But I like, even if you're
Speaker 1: back in office, right, the video conference zoom call seems
Speaker 1: to just be something that persists no matter what. And
Speaker 1: it makes sense because it requires people to like move,
Speaker 1: like not having to move physically to locations, and people
Speaker 1: can just instantly have a meeting. But I think the
Speaker 1: thing is, like the camera being on is something that
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people feel or maybe you're
Speaker 1: starting to begin to feel like this sort of all
Speaker 1: seeing eye that there's this element of having the camera
Speaker 1: on that does kind of changes the dimension of a meeting.
Speaker 1: And a lot of people, you know, they feel that
Speaker 1: if the cameras on, it seems like everyone's more engaged
Speaker 1: because like they're looking at other things and they're being
Speaker 1: viewed too, so the engagement would naturally increase. But that
Speaker 1: doesn't seem to really add up because it turns out
Speaker 1: that with the camera on, you're actually less likely to
Speaker 1: be engage. It's and it will actually it's they find
Speaker 1: it to be more draining um. And this was like
Speaker 1: a study that was done at the University of Arizona,
Speaker 1: just like looking just kind of exploring this basic thing.
Speaker 1: And so this is from the FA study quote. When
Speaker 1: people had cameras on or were told to keep cameras
Speaker 1: on they were, they reported more fatigue than their non
Speaker 1: camera using counterparts, and that fatigue correlated to less voice
Speaker 1: and less engagement during meetings. So in reality, those who
Speaker 1: had cameras on were potentially participating less than those not
Speaker 1: using cameras on, and they also really they note here
Speaker 1: too that these effects were stronger for women and for
Speaker 1: employees newer to the organization, likely due to added self
Speaker 1: presentation pressures. So I think a lot of us that
Speaker 1: we've talked about the zoom dysmorphia that has like been
Speaker 1: sort of like uh, plastic surgeons have been talking about
Speaker 1: like because people have been looking at themselves constantly for
Speaker 1: over a year, that it's like affecting their self perception
Speaker 1: and in this way too, like having a camera on, Yeah,
Speaker 1: like there is a performative aspect to it, especially to
Speaker 1: seem more engaged or that you are in fact listening
Speaker 1: to every single thing, like nodding your head vigorously, like
Speaker 1: I'm I'm on calls a lot of the time where
Speaker 1: I see a lot of performative engagement and you know,
Speaker 1: and I get it though too, Like that's just part
Speaker 1: of I think because of our work culture of sort
Speaker 1: of being like, well, if you're on camera and you
Speaker 1: look alert, then they you don't have to feel like
Speaker 1: you're slacking because you're not in an office. Um, and
Speaker 1: it seems to all relate to each other. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: also ties into the bullshit jobs thing that we were
Speaker 1: talking about earlier this week, Like it feels like if
Speaker 1: you're worried that people are just like turning the camera
Speaker 1: off and leaving the room, then maybe the meeting is
Speaker 1: isn't that important in the first place. Maybe And if
Speaker 1: it is important and they're turning the camera off and
Speaker 1: leaving the room, then you know that's on them. They're
Speaker 1: going to suffer the consequences of that. But like to
Speaker 1: feel like, Okay, everybody needs their camera on because we
Speaker 1: are like policing this to make sure nobody is like
Speaker 1: not paying attention just feels I don't know, so like
Speaker 1: you're in fucking second grade. Yeah, I mean, I will
Speaker 1: say as someone who enjoys looking at themselves and the
Speaker 1: back and their background, you know, but that that that
Speaker 1: only lasts so long. That only lasts so long. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's something about it that's like it's just not how
Speaker 1: you actually engage with a group of people or a
Speaker 1: room full of people. You're not. When I'm in one
Speaker 1: of these zoom things, it feels like you have all
Speaker 1: eyes on you at all times, which is not how
Speaker 1: it is in real life when you're in a if
Speaker 1: you're in a in an office, you know, a workspace
Speaker 1: and you know you're a meeting, we're not all like
Speaker 1: constantly like looking at each other the room. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like this is like this is you know, like I'm
Speaker 1: always scanning. They're scanning like the entire thing when I'm
Speaker 1: on these zoom calls, and it's just it's not you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. What it is and
Speaker 1: just makes you want to like constantly look at every
Speaker 1: little box. But that's when I feel those eyes on
Speaker 1: me too. And it is this thing to be like
Speaker 1: you oh, like there's no just kind of like you
Speaker 1: can zone out or or not like whatever, and you
Speaker 1: pick your nose. Yeah, but you're like, there's this just
Speaker 1: a fear of like being recorded or being like like
Speaker 1: you know, being caught on camera doing something embarrassing forever
Speaker 1: that really like starts to stress you out after like
Speaker 1: days and days of being on these calls, which you know,
Speaker 1: I think, which is why, like these researchers are saying,
Speaker 1: like it there's nothing wrong with having the camera off.
Speaker 1: You know, there's nothing wrong with it is as it
Speaker 1: relates to especially that you know, if if people are
Speaker 1: into work from home situation, they're typically more productive anyway.
Speaker 1: So just because the cameras on or off doesn't affect anything,
Speaker 1: but it just shows like this like rigidness that we
Speaker 1: have to still be like, well, if it's off, like
Speaker 1: you could be slacking off. And this is what sort
Speaker 1: of out of this study, you know, the head researchers
Speaker 1: recommending saying, uh quote, employees should have the autonomy to
Speaker 1: choose whether or not to use their cameras, and others
Speaker 1: shouldn't make assumptions of distractedness or productivity if someone chooses
Speaker 1: to keep the camera off, because those seem to be
Speaker 1: the factors that are driving people to keep the camera
Speaker 1: and it's like we'll have it on because I don't
Speaker 1: want people to think I'm like distracted or I'm slacking. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I will go sit like with very good posture
Speaker 1: and like not my head too, my chin falls off.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's all these like we gauge, like
Speaker 1: the American workforce like gauges productivity by all these things
Speaker 1: other than just like how productive are you being? You
Speaker 1: know the last Like I was in a job recently
Speaker 1: where it was like, you know, yeah, we would kind
Speaker 1: of like if everyone got the work done and got
Speaker 1: it done well, but like if we weren't like respond
Speaker 1: if you know, we weren't responding on these calls like immediately,
Speaker 1: or or we were like you know, missing emails every
Speaker 1: now and then, like we got like we got kind
Speaker 1: of dreamed at times, and it was like, but we're
Speaker 1: doing the work, like the productives, the productivity is happening. Everything,
Speaker 1: You're getting everything you need. It's just like this weird
Speaker 1: need to feel like in control all yeah, of every
Speaker 1: little thing your workers do. Yeah, and yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that's why I think so many that that sort of
Speaker 1: mentality persists, you know, and like demanding that like like
Speaker 1: you know, because I I have a buddy of mine
Speaker 1: as at a company where like they demand people's cameras
Speaker 1: are on like all the time, and if it's like
Speaker 1: off the like where'd you go? Where'd you go? Where'd
Speaker 1: you go? And they're like, I'm in the how to
Speaker 1: use the bathroom and I didn't want to like just
Speaker 1: walk out of the frame, so I turned my camera on.
Speaker 1: And yeah, there is just like there two ways of
Speaker 1: like you know, doing work that are having to reconcile
Speaker 1: with each other, this this pandemic version and go, you know,
Speaker 1: the old school like let me look over my employees constantly.
Speaker 1: Have y'all ever been a situation where they like there
Speaker 1: are calls where they can like monitor everything you're doing
Speaker 1: on your computer, or at least everything you're doing on
Speaker 1: your browser. So I've been in situations where you can't
Speaker 1: even like go on your browser like at all because
Speaker 1: they'll like they'll know, they'll get the report. And it's like, no,
Speaker 1: this has helped. Let me. It's like, let me go
Speaker 1: to Zara and buy my thing that I want, Like,
Speaker 1: let me do my online shopping really quick, because otherwise
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be thinking about the thing I want
Speaker 1: to buy all like all day. I can let me
Speaker 1: two things at once. Yeah, let me get it and
Speaker 1: let me get the other thing out of my system.
Speaker 1: I want to buy the Cell Virau T shirt right now,
Speaker 1: and then I won't be I won't be thinking about
Speaker 1: it for the rest of the day. I can put
Speaker 1: my all my focus on you, my new Viry shirts,
Speaker 1: and I'm excited about it. Also makes sense that it's
Speaker 1: women and people who like are new and don't feel
Speaker 1: secure in the workplace, and not the most vulnerable people
Speaker 1: and the most vulnerable people. And then we have your
Speaker 1: Jeffreies Tuban who are are the opposite, couldn't be less,
Speaker 1: couldn't be less aware of their being on camera. I mean,
Speaker 1: I like and that that is something that I will say,
Speaker 1: like really ways on me and these things. That's you know,
Speaker 1: I don't have, you know, to like present myself like
Speaker 1: as It takes a lot of work to present my
Speaker 1: self is like fully and truly as I want to.
Speaker 1: And there is a kind of resentment I have to
Speaker 1: like the people who can just wing like roll out
Speaker 1: of bed. And you know, I said, like, you know,
Speaker 1: the amount of work I have to do to feel
Speaker 1: like okay on these calls, the exact same amount of
Speaker 1: work I have to do if I was like going
Speaker 1: into an office, same like, same level of makeup, basically
Speaker 1: same level of of just like of preparedness. And it's like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's yeah, it's it's being I love you.
Speaker 1: I love the option of just turning it off every
Speaker 1: now and then not having to worry about it for sure. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I think people just got to get over the
Speaker 1: fact that, look, are you are your widgets getting made?
Speaker 1: Then shut the funk up about the camera? Yeah, but
Speaker 1: all ships who cares ship those widgets? All right, let's
Speaker 1: talk about this very feeble non attempt at police reform.
Speaker 1: So last summer, Tim Scott, the sole black Republican senator,
Speaker 1: was test with creating a police reform bill, and people
Speaker 1: were like, wow, maybe maybe something could happen here since
Speaker 1: Scott has that has been an issue he's traditionally cared about. Yeah,
Speaker 1: in the GOP and you're like, oh, cool, this black
Speaker 1: Republican he's gonna do okay, and he's on there, he
Speaker 1: said really good things on the record. Something could come
Speaker 1: of this. Well, what the funk were we thinking? Because
Speaker 1: Corey Booker just came out and said, look, you know,
Speaker 1: I was leading the discussions, the negotiations on drafting this
Speaker 1: bill alongside Karen Bass from the House, and we tried
Speaker 1: working with these motherfucker's but the whole thing's off. There's
Speaker 1: no deal because the Republicans have rejected fucking everything, even
Speaker 1: though we watered this thing down to literally like like nothing, um,
Speaker 1: and they still couldn't get behind it. And when you
Speaker 1: look at the things that were necessary, right like qualified
Speaker 1: immunity is one of the biggest things that we need
Speaker 1: to address in terms of, you know, holding police accountable
Speaker 1: when they're violating people's civil rights, like right now, it's
Speaker 1: the taxpayer that pays the payouts when a east officer
Speaker 1: does wrong rather than the police department or the officer themselves,
Speaker 1: so they're shielded. But we always knew qualified immunity was
Speaker 1: never on the table for Republicans. And let's be real,
Speaker 1: if fucking most Democrats can't even wrap their head around
Speaker 1: it because they're so afraid of actual reform. So that
Speaker 1: was the first indication I think everyone had that this
Speaker 1: was not going to be real tangible reform. This is
Speaker 1: going to be very there's going to be a gesture,
Speaker 1: a nod to reform, and then DEM's kept coming with
Speaker 1: like like just other stuff like okay, how about this,
Speaker 1: like even real lukewarm will band chokehold will create a
Speaker 1: database of problematic cops who have like been written up.
Speaker 1: Tim Scott, you yourself, you said you liked that idea,
Speaker 1: so we're gonna put that one in there. And then
Speaker 1: let's significantly cut back the military to police pipeline as
Speaker 1: it relates to equipment. And they still said fucking no,
Speaker 1: even though these are things Tim Scott has talked about supporting,
Speaker 1: and like a lot of the aids who spoke, you
Speaker 1: know to journalist about like this process, they also said
Speaker 1: this was just a completely bad faith exercise from Tim
Speaker 1: Scott and was never really seemed like anything was gonna
Speaker 1: happen because a little bit of progress would be made
Speaker 1: and then suddenly there were like new standards that had
Speaker 1: to be met that would just completely clear the table
Speaker 1: and have to start all over again. So you know,
Speaker 1: it feels like one of those things where even this
Speaker 1: Police Reformed was like we were saying yesterday, like the
Speaker 1: walls are cloning closing in on Trump. Uh, if they
Speaker 1: passed this thing, they would be like the walls are
Speaker 1: closing in on bad cops, Like why because you did
Speaker 1: three things you're not still doing. You're not fucking with
Speaker 1: qualified immunity, So what are we doing? Yeah, and yet
Speaker 1: nothing even that can't get through, like watered this thing
Speaker 1: down based on their demands, and they still wouldn't do it.
Speaker 1: Seems to be the entire like democratic modus operandi, like
Speaker 1: this entire administration, like it's just we're okay, fine, we'll
Speaker 1: make concessions because they're desperate for bipartisanship for some reason.
Speaker 1: Probably be because the way that the fund raise, the
Speaker 1: way that they get people out to vote, is by
Speaker 1: defining themselves in opposition to Republicans, and so they need
Speaker 1: the Republican party there, and so they they keep trying
Speaker 1: this bipartisanship and it's just time and time again it's
Speaker 1: been shown it's just not happening. Yeah, I mean, I
Speaker 1: wish this felt like I wish this felt like a
Speaker 1: surprise even that this didn't, but it just feels like
Speaker 1: the most like yeah, of course, of course type news
Speaker 1: and yeah, it is all this like it is just
Speaker 1: this like aesthetic Jack. I think you're right, it's just
Speaker 1: kind of like this aesthetic opposition. This administration wants to
Speaker 1: look like it's looked like it's so far removed from
Speaker 1: the last one. But really, like I think, I think
Speaker 1: if all these if Trump was doing any of these things,
Speaker 1: if like these policies were within the Trump administration, like
Speaker 1: the there will be the same like both like you know,
Speaker 1: like opposition to whether we'd be having the same reaction
Speaker 1: to it that we were having under the last administration.
Speaker 1: It's just it's also fake. It all feels feels okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's just like it just makes these Democrats looks
Speaker 1: fucking like a bunch of clowns too, because you know,
Speaker 1: everyone's saying like this is the pattern working with them,
Speaker 1: and it's been like this, especially since Obama took office,
Speaker 1: which is like they're gonna act like they're gonna come
Speaker 1: to the table, they'll make you water the ship out
Speaker 1: of it, and then they won't vote for it, so
Speaker 1: and then you've just you end up voting on a
Speaker 1: bill that is completely nothing, and then they're not even
Speaker 1: there to to do any anything, and so you know,
Speaker 1: again we but I don't know, Corey Booker seemed to
Speaker 1: think that his announcement would come as a shock, was like,
Speaker 1: you know, we tried and most people, like Yeah, because
Speaker 1: they're fucking working with them. Yeah, filibuster, you idiot. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm sure I'm not the first place person to make
Speaker 1: this analogy, but it does. It is very uh like
Speaker 1: Lucy and the football. It's just like, yeah, how many
Speaker 1: time you're gonna keep like running for it Charlie Brown,
Speaker 1: right right, exactly. Yeah. I mean the filibusters, like, I
Speaker 1: don't know what more needs to happen, but it just
Speaker 1: seems like they're not even because if they try and
Speaker 1: run on the mid terms, like, hey man, we need
Speaker 1: more time. Man, give us another shot with these people,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna we're gonna get We're finally gonna get
Speaker 1: that stuff through we were promising all this time. Uh,
Speaker 1: Like I can see a version of that, or like
Speaker 1: we've seen with Gavin Newsom, they're gonna just try and
Speaker 1: completely ignore all this ship that was promised to just
Speaker 1: be like hey, COVID, huh, we gotta get through this pandemic. Huh,
Speaker 1: don't trust these guys are just gonna make you not
Speaker 1: wear masks and people like but what about like you know,
Speaker 1: the eviction moratorium and things like that, like real tangible
Speaker 1: things that people need addressed in their lives rather than
Speaker 1: like sort of evoking the Boogeyman of the right and
Speaker 1: then be like, come into my arms, please, please come
Speaker 1: to the safe harbor of my blue arms. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and we'll be right back.
Speaker 1: And we're back. And according to the National Retail Federation,
Speaker 1: that sounds like a fucking like the name of our
Speaker 1: government in twenty years exactly. Yeah, this is the party
Speaker 1: that we're all voting for in twenty years. I'm voting
Speaker 1: for the National Retail Federation. I'm gonna say it sounds
Speaker 1: it sounds like those guys from the Fan of Menace.
Speaker 1: Who oh yeah, the Trade Federation. Yeah, like creepy Asian
Speaker 1: aliens and there was that racist Yeah no, let's just
Speaker 1: ignore that. Love the prequels and ignore all that stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure, I'm a prequel kid. What are you
Speaker 1: talking about? Um? But yeah, yeah, it sounds like we're
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna be run by the Trade Federation in
Speaker 1: thirty years. Yeah. So they're saying, and this feels a
Speaker 1: little bit bold to me. They're saying, is going to
Speaker 1: be a record breaking year for Halloween spending. I feel
Speaker 1: like any prediction on like behavior that's that far in
Speaker 1: the future. It just seems a little uh cavalier based
Speaker 1: on like what we've just lived through. Like maybe, but
Speaker 1: I would say if you would use a folk if
Speaker 1: you were to take a focus to group that is
Speaker 1: just me, I would say that you're like, I love this.
Speaker 1: It's actually gonna be triple last year. Well, this is
Speaker 1: the thing that they're looking at, right because they said
Speaker 1: when the CDC last year was like, do not do Halloween, assholes,
Speaker 1: do not do it. Please, for the love of everything
Speaker 1: that's holy, Just fucking don't nobody listened. People still spend
Speaker 1: over eight billion dollars this year. They're saying it's gonna
Speaker 1: be over ten billion dollars when it comes to costumes, decoration, candy,
Speaker 1: and they say pet costumes even more. That's the ship
Speaker 1: that's really on the come up is pet costumes. So
Speaker 1: a lot of this spending, a bulk of it three
Speaker 1: point three billion, is going to go to costumes. That's
Speaker 1: twenty seven percent more than last year. And then and
Speaker 1: that's like, you know, like the last time it was
Speaker 1: like spending was that that level is twenty seventeen and
Speaker 1: then three billion on candy. Another three that they think
Speaker 1: is going to be on decorations. And I know we've
Speaker 1: seen people lose their ship over the twelve foot skeleton,
Speaker 1: you know, like I've for like an entire year. We
Speaker 1: know people that have been up to Brandy Posey I'm
Speaker 1: looking at you, who have been just cannot stop thinking
Speaker 1: about this twelve foot skeleton. So you know they're saying
Speaker 1: like that on top of the kids costumes, they just
Speaker 1: see it going up and up and up. But they're
Speaker 1: really the pet costume thing is experiencing a lot of growth,
Speaker 1: and that might make sense if people who actually kept
Speaker 1: their adopted pets from the pandemic, you know that they
Speaker 1: would be dressing up their pets. Because for me, I
Speaker 1: don't really buy I don't really dress up, but my
Speaker 1: partner and I we like to find shift for our dog.
Speaker 1: That's that is fun. I can. I can definitely. I'm
Speaker 1: like I see that part of the spending. I've already
Speaker 1: got a little tune squad jersey for my dog and
Speaker 1: that's just like that's just that's start of that what's
Speaker 1: your what? Which jersey is just generic tunes? Character, it's
Speaker 1: just generic tunes. Now, they didn't make like a specific
Speaker 1: like bugs Bunny like Michael Jordan's want, Oh that's amazing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I don't know, I mean, I'm it seems like
Speaker 1: a combination of like because the summer was shitty and
Speaker 1: we do have vaccines, so people are going to feel
Speaker 1: a little bit more you know, lively, Yeah for Halloween.
Speaker 1: Plus you can do this ship outside. The trick or
Speaker 1: treating does take place outside, and I feel like to
Speaker 1: get into it, it's like you're not you can really
Speaker 1: just decorate the exterior of where you live and still
Speaker 1: kind of like get you know, express yourself like that
Speaker 1: rather than like coming inside and seeing all this other
Speaker 1: spooky ship that you have set up. But I don't
Speaker 1: know what what's your what's your take here? Done? I think,
Speaker 1: I mean my honest feeling is I think the reason
Speaker 1: like Halloween will be big this year and why it's
Speaker 1: kind of just like spooky season has been growing in
Speaker 1: popularity and like recent years, is is kind of like
Speaker 1: tied to the fact that we all feel like we're
Speaker 1: we're gonna die. We're all gonna die like instead like
Speaker 1: even before pandemic times, like you know, sucking global warming
Speaker 1: all this, like we just feel very close to the brink.
Speaker 1: And I true believe that, like Halloween, it's like this
Speaker 1: little release valve every year we where we all kind
Speaker 1: of like get to collectively like laugh and have fun
Speaker 1: with death. So it makes sense to me that it
Speaker 1: has just been you know, I feel like in the
Speaker 1: last I mean, I've always been kind of like a
Speaker 1: big Halloween fan, but I just feel like in the
Speaker 1: last like five to ten years and just seen a
Speaker 1: huge blow up online of people who are like, I'm
Speaker 1: horror and I'm a horror influencer. I I like love horror,
Speaker 1: I love spooky stuff. Um, So I think it makes
Speaker 1: sense that this would, like even outside of you know,
Speaker 1: whatever the trends are saying, like psychologically, to me, it
Speaker 1: makes sense that this is gonna be the year that
Speaker 1: we're all like, yeah, like fuck it, like so like
Speaker 1: laugh at the Grim. Let's not just like put on
Speaker 1: put on Pennywise costumes and laugh at the Grim Reaper, right,
Speaker 1: Like I love this so funny that addy knife? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, yeah, after all, after the year we've had, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: what's so scary that a bloody knife? There's There was
Speaker 1: another weird stating here that said six of adults surveyed
Speaker 1: had already picked out their costume for this year. It's
Speaker 1: like picked it out, like put it together or just
Speaker 1: like decided what they're said. Okay, if they've already picked out,
Speaker 1: like not to say that it's been purchased, but they
Speaker 1: know what they are going from or how they're going
Speaker 1: to dress up, which is wild to me. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: definitely an outlier when it comes to Halloween. I think
Speaker 1: of something literally the two days before I had I
Speaker 1: would have to go to a costume party, Like I'm not.
Speaker 1: I have friends though, who are like keeping track of
Speaker 1: ship throughout the year and like, oh that's stupid, that
Speaker 1: might make a good costume. That's they got their eye
Speaker 1: on it. And those to see six in September already. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think people are really to your point, Joe and I.
Speaker 1: I just think people are really ready to guy die.
Speaker 1: I think skipping Halloween like that's one that that's one
Speaker 1: holiday that like just the human like experience needs, Like
Speaker 1: we can't just skip Halloween. We need to dress up
Speaker 1: like gory car accidents and go out and walk around
Speaker 1: around each other. And my my three year old has
Speaker 1: been asking when it's going to get spooky like for
Speaker 1: weeks now, which is early like he's yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: not from my perspective, but I will let you parent
Speaker 1: your way. Yeah, Like what you're doing it could have
Speaker 1: been months ago. What are you doing? You have a
Speaker 1: you have a costume picked out? Joe who I have
Speaker 1: a cole Yeah? So what's your what's your Like you're
Speaker 1: the rhythm in which you understand when you have a costume?
Speaker 1: Like do you have a deadline? Is this do you
Speaker 1: typically know by this time this of the year. Uh,
Speaker 1: usually know by this time the year. I will say,
Speaker 1: like I did go through like a hard like kind
Speaker 1: of like as much as I love Halloween, I hard
Speaker 1: like not big on costumes phase because I was doing
Speaker 1: a lot of like sketch comedy with UCB for a
Speaker 1: bunch of years, and costumes just didn't feel as special
Speaker 1: and I got much more into like spooky dress up,
Speaker 1: you know, like like Halloween like really nice like Halloween
Speaker 1: theme dresses, like suits, stuff like that that I still like,
Speaker 1: I still incorporate into my Halloween wardrobe. Like I just
Speaker 1: I'm very excited. I just got a like Beetle Juice
Speaker 1: inspired like power suit. I would decide that like imogic
Speaker 1: didn't like s halfway between Beal Juice and the Good Wife.
Speaker 1: That's what like the look is. And and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I have an event that I'm planning that for. We're
Speaker 1: all going to like a little like spooky like Halloween
Speaker 1: cocktile souaret, and I'm ready to wear that four. But yeah, usually,
Speaker 1: like I don't know, I don't really have a hall.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that I have any like consistent
Speaker 1: costume random it's just kind of like what I'm feeling
Speaker 1: at the time. I will say one of the like
Speaker 1: one of the straight up costumes we have planned out
Speaker 1: is Kate Raft, former like former guests of the show
Speaker 1: and my comedy partner. We've I've always been very into
Speaker 1: the Chucky movies. They are just recently getting super into
Speaker 1: the Checky movies. And we're gonna do uh, I think
Speaker 1: we're gonna do like a combo costume of me as
Speaker 1: Tiffany and them as Glenn slash Glenda. They're gendered on
Speaker 1: conforming like non binary child from Seed of Chucky. So
Speaker 1: we're gonna that's gonna be one of our costume or
Speaker 1: or one of my costumes. Not all of our costumes
Speaker 1: gonna be group costumes, but we're definitely doing that as
Speaker 1: a group at some point. Yeah. Nice. What about you, Jack,
Speaker 1: you got costumes? I know you you you and your family.
Speaker 1: I see your family photos, you y'all, y'all go in.
Speaker 1: I have the same Batman suit that I wear every year.
Speaker 1: Just over when you say this if ill fitting Batman? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's the crotches about like an inch too short, and
Speaker 1: so it's major. Yeah, yeah, so you gotta it's Batman
Speaker 1: who has a towel on, right Man just out the shower,
Speaker 1: low crotch Batman. Yeah. So our three year old is
Speaker 1: into superheroes. That makes it super easy. Our five year
Speaker 1: old is into trains and garbage trucks, and he wants
Speaker 1: to be a garbage truck. Uh, and I know I'm
Speaker 1: gonna that's like one of those requests for kids who
Speaker 1: have dads that are handy and like let it make
Speaker 1: it building stuff and that that just doesn't me. So
Speaker 1: if you have you ever seen those like really impressive
Speaker 1: like Transformers costumes that people may yeah, like that into
Speaker 1: a garbage truck would be mind blowing. Don't let your
Speaker 1: kids hear that. Yeah yeah that was actually put your
Speaker 1: kid on really quickly, you know, would be cool. This
Speaker 1: video this little boy went from an eighteen wheeler into
Speaker 1: a four robot. Yeah that would be cool, right, Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Whenever I asked for stuff like that, my mom I
Speaker 1: was just like no, And I was just like, all right,
Speaker 1: I'll just I'll buy this one hat that's a swat
Speaker 1: on it and we're all black and I'll be Keanu
Speaker 1: Reeves from Speed. The first Halloween where I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm not doing like we always grew up with those
Speaker 1: costumes that were like plastic mask and then like plastic smock,
Speaker 1: like just face on it. I was like, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like how Elf dressed. But yeah, the first Halloween that
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I can just like I can
Speaker 1: make my own costume. I can build my own thing
Speaker 1: was like game changer for me. What was it? Do
Speaker 1: you remember? Uh? Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is like Former life.
Speaker 1: But I was very into the X Files at the time,
Speaker 1: and I put together a little like Agent Molder coastic. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Probably I wanted to. I felt I wanted to go
Speaker 1: with Scully, but you know, different times, different places, right right, right,
Speaker 1: So yeah, I was that is something I should do.
Speaker 1: I should fulfill that that dream at some point and
Speaker 1: do a Scully. I mean Jillian's killing it right now, Jillian, I,
Speaker 1: I am watching so much just like X Files right now,
Speaker 1: Comic TV is just airing it all the time, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, Holly, she's so good in that. He's so
Speaker 1: good in everything. But I'm just like, yeah, I have
Speaker 1: good taste, had great tastes again, that's to me. I
Speaker 1: was like, I was like, so unique. I watched the
Speaker 1: X Files in the nineties. Come on, who else who
Speaker 1: doing that? Like? I would watch the I would watch
Speaker 1: The Simpsons and the X Files. Like it's like unique
Speaker 1: taste back then. I know. Yeah, I'm a I'm a
Speaker 1: unique one. I'm an out. Yeah. Alright, let's talk about
Speaker 1: some some like kind of topical Halloween costumes that are
Speaker 1: being floated. We went through Pop Sugars like list of
Speaker 1: different ideas, and I thought they were like some cute
Speaker 1: ideas in there. I think the one that was on
Speaker 1: the list and also Miles you found in the place
Speaker 1: you go for your Halloween costume advice the New York
Speaker 1: Post is the Bernie Sanders like sitting with the mask
Speaker 1: on and you ration with the mittens, just looking unhappy
Speaker 1: to be there. They've converted that into what the New
Speaker 1: York Post is describing as a sexy Halloween costume. It's
Speaker 1: that e girl vibe because it's from dolls kill dot com,
Speaker 1: so they're the one making it so that it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's a little a little bit something
Speaker 1: different for the youth. The coat doesn't appear to be
Speaker 1: trying to approximate what what Bernie was doing. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I would say my issue with this is that it's
Speaker 1: a very like performance space costume. So like to get
Speaker 1: that you gotta like fully sit and do the post
Speaker 1: to get it across. It's like, are you ready to
Speaker 1: do that? Are you ready to do that? All night? Right?
Speaker 1: And this part of your I guess that's where a
Speaker 1: fun costume is. Like you would find a way to
Speaker 1: build the seat into the ass of your costume so
Speaker 1: you could be like, oh, who am I and then
Speaker 1: you just like boom, yeah the post and they're like,
Speaker 1: oh ship, I think we're just somebody who was masking
Speaker 1: and had mittens on the other one. That's performance based
Speaker 1: and I don't know how you do it necessarily, but
Speaker 1: if somebody pulls it off, it would be amazing. Is
Speaker 1: they they suggest doing some manner of recreation of the
Speaker 1: bidens next to the carters where the carters. I love
Speaker 1: that it looks like I feel that's easy. I feel
Speaker 1: like that's easier to pull up at least there's something
Speaker 1: more evocative about that than the Bernie one. Like like
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, if you like get this, like you know,
Speaker 1: I think you'd obviously you would be by, you would
Speaker 1: be biden, you'd be uh, one of the bidens. And
Speaker 1: then you'd want to like make a little like chair
Speaker 1: with a little carter inside inside sitting on it like
Speaker 1: attached to your side, and then you would just kneel.
Speaker 1: I think that's great. You can give you do like
Speaker 1: you do like a muppet style Jimmy Harder, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: and then you could do a puppet ship. You could
Speaker 1: be like what's that Jimmy Yah, yeah, yeah, that's a
Speaker 1: great idea. That's a performance face one. I like, yeah, see,
Speaker 1: and as much. And I'm so excited by the idea.
Speaker 1: But then the second I think about the effort, I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 1: what I need like a child, like a child like
Speaker 1: a preschool reading chair that's like plush, or do I
Speaker 1: have to make one and wrap it in fabric then
Speaker 1: make a muppet that would be a good one for
Speaker 1: my family. I was like saying, if you have a
Speaker 1: kid that was five year old, yeah you could your
Speaker 1: five year old. You're going is Jimmy Carter? Yeah, no discussion. Yeah,
Speaker 1: especially when you're like, oh, like okay, what did you
Speaker 1: want to be? I want to be Iron Man? You're like, well,
Speaker 1: put this wig on, because you broughten with hard getting
Speaker 1: this get this chair. Yeah. There's uh another one that
Speaker 1: I don't know. It feels a little weird for so
Speaker 1: it's promising young woman woman. The nurse costume. That's not
Speaker 1: a good I am not Yeah, because first of all,
Speaker 1: most people are just gonna think that you're a sexy
Speaker 1: nurse exactly. And then I guess you have to go
Speaker 1: into the explanation of like I'm specifically this sexy nurse
Speaker 1: and and I don't know, like I don't know that
Speaker 1: seems like you're like, oh that sounds traumatic. Yeah, costumes character,
Speaker 1: Well it's fine. Yeah, I guess it's a movie about
Speaker 1: how our society enables and excuses rape culture. And the
Speaker 1: costume it could have been designed by one of the
Speaker 1: frat guys in the movie. And you can't bob for
Speaker 1: apples and have a good story after Yeah, by the way,
Speaker 1: like my character gets like murdered by one of these
Speaker 1: frat eyes like spoilers seeing Young Woman. Sorry if you
Speaker 1: you're going to see it. Spoiler alert for promising young woman.
Speaker 1: What's going on? Yeah you know? Yeah, this is me
Speaker 1: before I'm about to be murdered by um that guy
Speaker 1: from Glow. Yeah I forgot. I don't know his real name. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm so bad with names, but yes, that was enough
Speaker 1: for me. But yeah guy from gil Yeah, carry Pet's husband.
Speaker 1: This is me before it was back today, murdered by
Speaker 1: carry the husband him. So that's one of the bad ones.
Speaker 1: There's a bunch of Olivia Rodrigo looks like her album
Speaker 1: cover White House appearance. One of her videos, The Cat
Speaker 1: Lawyer with U. I feel like you could knock that
Speaker 1: out with just a color printer and uh suit. Basically,
Speaker 1: what's the cat Lawyer? It was a lawyer on a
Speaker 1: zoom call who couldn't get rid of the cat filter.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah yeah, so you could just put a
Speaker 1: cat thing is like the overly mimi ones and because
Speaker 1: I don't know how to pronounce pronounced meme using, but
Speaker 1: it's always those memi ones, those Memois. Yeah. Yeah, those
Speaker 1: are like they just feel like sort of flash in
Speaker 1: the pan, although I don't know why. At the same time,
Speaker 1: I'm like loving the Carter's and Bidens. Like that ship
Speaker 1: right there was actually disregard everything I'm saying. I don't
Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about. The only Memi costumes I
Speaker 1: want to say of Mimi from the Drew Carey Show,
Speaker 1: thank you shout out my boy my one of my
Speaker 1: best friends in junior high. He went to Memi from
Speaker 1: Drew Carey Show. He killed that ship. That is very fun.
Speaker 1: You had a very cool friend. Yeah. He was just
Speaker 1: like because he loved the Drew Carey Show and he
Speaker 1: was like he was like his whole thing was like, man,
Speaker 1: Drew Carey is like too normal looking, bro, it's not costume. Like,
Speaker 1: we're fucking if I go as Mimi, I got the
Speaker 1: momo on you know what I mean in the wig
Speaker 1: of the makeup. Yeah, did like, did anyone give him
Speaker 1: ship or like when people just like fun? Yeah, most people,
Speaker 1: No one really gave him ship. Most people are just
Speaker 1: like confused. What people didn't understand like the reference and
Speaker 1: I didn't either because when he when he came to school,
Speaker 1: like that said, what the fund is this? He said
Speaker 1: me me from Drew Carey Show, and I don't watch
Speaker 1: that show. And then then he then like he had
Speaker 1: to because there was no internet to readily show a
Speaker 1: reference photo, he had to like go home and bring
Speaker 1: a TV guide to the next day. It was like
Speaker 1: this person and I'm like, oh, yeah, that that tricks. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I love this kid. I wanna I want to know.
Speaker 1: I want to know where this kid is now. I
Speaker 1: love its Yeah, I love that you're carrying a show. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: mayor from Mayor of Eastown. I feel like if you
Speaker 1: just vape and are in a cold weather climate and
Speaker 1: can dress and cold weather clothes, that would be fairly easy.
Speaker 1: If you can get a wah wah rapper that yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, flash it out a little bit. That's that's like,
Speaker 1: I feel like that's going to be a very low
Speaker 1: effort costume. Yeah. You made like an M sixty five
Speaker 1: military jacket over like a unique clow down vest with
Speaker 1: a turtleneck. Yeah, and your vapan baby you got heavy. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then the weekend had some kind of iconic looks
Speaker 1: this here that would be easy, too easy enough to
Speaker 1: pull off with just clothes and a glove and some
Speaker 1: face bandages. That's those are kind of the ones that
Speaker 1: jumped out at me. There are some other ones like
Speaker 1: in this they have another article is like fifty plays
Speaker 1: clever costumes that'll make you say, why didn't I think
Speaker 1: of that? And one is a chip on your shoulder
Speaker 1: and someone just is holding a bag of lace on
Speaker 1: their shoulder. Yeah, no, that's pretty Uh, why why didn't
Speaker 1: I think? Come on now? Because I don't know stupid?
Speaker 1: Oh right, because it sucks, because it sucks. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I'm I'm pretty great. I would never think of or
Speaker 1: if you're a smart cookie, you're wearing a cap and gown,
Speaker 1: but's with like you're holding cookies. Yeah, a nose, a
Speaker 1: nose mask with in like a runner's gear for running nose.
Speaker 1: That was pretty boy. So don't do those. Don't don't
Speaker 1: do promising young woman or anything to Mimi unless unless
Speaker 1: unless uh and or the carter or the bottom car. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you can somehow do both the Bidens with Mimi
Speaker 1: from Drew Carry Show. Yeah, yeah, what if that frost
Speaker 1: overhappened if Mimi Bobeck were a Biden you remember her
Speaker 1: last name? Good job, I just I had to look
Speaker 1: it up right now as I was trying to figure
Speaker 1: out where the who the performer, like what they're up
Speaker 1: to now, because a part of me was like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, did they go MAGI or something like Kathy
Speaker 1: Kinney seems like she's on the up. Yeah, yeah, good stuff, Joan.
Speaker 1: Such a pleasure having you on. Where can people find
Speaker 1: you and follow you? I am on Instagram and Twitter
Speaker 1: as Joan haley Ford and I also stream on twitch
Speaker 1: as twitch dot tv slash Joan haley Ford. Right, um,
Speaker 1: and is there a tweet or some of the work
Speaker 1: of social media that you've been enjoying? You know what.
Speaker 1: I brought it up earlier, but I'm going to bring
Speaker 1: it up again just because it literally like made my week.
Speaker 1: This the like you know, the lamest thing, but just
Speaker 1: just and it's just a corporate tweet, but there are
Speaker 1: a publication tweet, but the advocate tweet about Elvira being
Speaker 1: in a nineteen year relationship with another woman like was
Speaker 1: like Christmas for me and like most of like the
Speaker 1: queer the queer text threads am on so like that
Speaker 1: that that that little tweet really uh made by week? Yeah, miles,
Speaker 1: Where can people find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying? Twitter,
Speaker 1: Instagram at Miles of Gray. Also the other show four
Speaker 1: twenty Day Fiance with Sophia Alexandra and I also twitch
Speaker 1: dot tv slash four twenty Day Fiance. Come check that out.
Speaker 1: Let's see a tweet that I like. Uh, this one
Speaker 1: is from at Rex King is dead tweeting so funny said.
Speaker 1: I once got kicked out of a Hedgehog Facebook group
Speaker 1: because a lady posted that her hogs hiss directed me
Speaker 1: went well, and I commented hogs director me, I'm seeing
Speaker 1: like the kind of group who like, we really don't
Speaker 1: appreciate your lip in response to this is very serious.
Speaker 1: This is a hedgehog group. Uh, let's see tweet I've
Speaker 1: been enjoying. Ashley Fisher tweeted me, age seven, I want
Speaker 1: to be an adult so I can eat as many
Speaker 1: pickles as I want. Me age thirty eating pickles ha
Speaker 1: ha Hell yeah, that's how you do it. That's right.
Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien.
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Speaker 1: where we post our episodes and our foot note. We
Speaker 1: link off to the information that we talked about in
Speaker 1: today's episode, as well as a song that we think
Speaker 1: you might enjoy. Miles, what song are we sending people
Speaker 1: out on? Indeed by the band Cruise, And I think
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're in l a band. I
Speaker 1: feel like I've heard of them around town, but they've
Speaker 1: just got you know, if you like Kim Cruel kind
Speaker 1: of vibes unknown Mortal Orchestra. There they kind of do
Speaker 1: it there again there it almost sounds like vintage R
Speaker 1: and B, but they're not really doing that, so it
Speaker 1: it has like again, it's like this. You know, I
Speaker 1: love music in the last few years because it seems
Speaker 1: like people are really playing with many genres and just
Speaker 1: cooking up their own sort of style. So this song
Speaker 1: indeed by Cruisa, it's just a great one to go
Speaker 1: in your weekend. It's so nice or relax, you know,
Speaker 1: and so look at some fall leaves coming down, or
Speaker 1: maybe the leaves haven't turned yet, but enjoy this. Oh right,
Speaker 1: we'll go check that one out. The Daily is that, guys,
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