Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two oh four,
Speaker 1: Episode four of Daily Like Guys to production of I
Speaker 1: Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take a
Speaker 1: deep dive into America's share consciousness. It's Thursday, October seven one.
Speaker 1: It is National Chocolate cover Pretzel Day. An important day
Speaker 1: for me and mine because I do love a good
Speaker 1: chocolate cover pretzel as long as they're salted, you know,
Speaker 1: I need I need that salty in that one you'll
Speaker 1: buy at the store. I mean flips. I'm here for,
Speaker 1: you know, flipping flipping out. Yeah, I'll go for anything.
Speaker 1: Probably be spoke to, you know, like sometimes you see
Speaker 1: the ones that you go to a boardwalk and it'll
Speaker 1: be like the pretzel rod, like just a straight shooter
Speaker 1: where they have of it to prove to you this
Speaker 1: is actually a pretzel, right right, not a carbon rod
Speaker 1: or something. My name is Jack O'Brien a k. The
Speaker 1: best part of vaccine up No swimmers in your come.
Speaker 1: Let's courtesy of Chris Mackling, a new take on the
Speaker 1: fact that the vaccine, you know, makes you infertile. The
Speaker 1: fact I'm gonna put that in quotes because I'm still
Speaker 1: doing my own research on that. But you know, Chris
Speaker 1: is pointing out here that that could just be birth control.
Speaker 1: I could do something that you see as a positive. Anyways,
Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co
Speaker 1: host Mr Miles Grab. What's with these homies soaking and girls?
Speaker 1: Why don't they wanna thrust? How did they ever do
Speaker 1: it with guys when they just could and bust? But
Speaker 1: you know, I'll jump so that you could hump. I
Speaker 1: won't close my Okay, shout out to oh Hi more
Speaker 1: for that wonderful buddy Holly Wheezer LDS Soaking Jump Pump
Speaker 1: Crossroads a K. Yeah, I love that song. Beautiful work.
Speaker 1: I mean, soaking is the thing that's been around UH
Speaker 1: for a while, but I feel like it's just re
Speaker 1: entered the zeitgeist in away. Soaking is here to stay.
Speaker 1: I'm calling. I mean for someone who like a close
Speaker 1: friend of mine in high school, he went to UH,
Speaker 1: he played football at Utah. I remember the first fucking breakback.
Speaker 1: He was like, yo, really they'd be floating and ship.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what is this? So in a way, it
Speaker 1: feels like that moment when Twitter is like ray J's
Speaker 1: Brandy's brother on the Soaking Ship alright, Miles, Well, we
Speaker 1: are thrilled to be joined once again in our third
Speaker 1: seat by a brilliant comedian, writer and actor who's written
Speaker 1: for and appeared on Comedy Central and ABC. Ever heard
Speaker 1: of him? His stand up albums the Blake album, Stuffed
Speaker 1: Boy and Live from the Pandemic debut at number one
Speaker 1: on iTunes and Amazon, and his album twe of Years
Speaker 1: of Voicemails from Todd Glass to Blake Wexler charted on Billboard.
Speaker 1: Ever heard of it? Yep? Oh, please welcome the hilarious,
Speaker 1: the chaotic Blake Wexler. It's pipeline time. This is Blake
Speaker 1: Wexler a k A. The wexn Valdez a k A.
Speaker 1: The oil spill Thrill a k A. The bargin Charge
Speaker 1: a k a. The fossil fuel ghoul a k A.
Speaker 1: Smelly Ellie. No need for hysteria. It's the affected area.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me. It's I missed you, guys.
Speaker 1: I I do all joking aside, and none of those
Speaker 1: were jokes, but now I do want to be serious.
Speaker 1: It's great you guys. I missed you. Thank you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's the feeling is mutual. Man, I'm it's funny. I'm like,
Speaker 1: where are you been? You're like, I'm around. I'm like, Dan,
Speaker 1: I'm sucking up because I want to do I've been
Speaker 1: needing to hear from Blake. It goes both ways. It
Speaker 1: goes both ways, so I can reach out as well.
Speaker 1: Do you love the Blake went timely with his a
Speaker 1: K S with the with the oil spill, and we're
Speaker 1: still stuck on soaking and other come come based story
Speaker 1: was from weeks ago, months ago. I was going to
Speaker 1: write on the discord where everyone, like a lot of
Speaker 1: people submit a K S. I'm like, y'all, I think
Speaker 1: we're appreaching, we're approaching Pete come right, and we may
Speaker 1: need to we may we may need to switch gears.
Speaker 1: So a K writers, I challenge you for next week.
Speaker 1: We'll just we'll get a few more days into this.
Speaker 1: I was, what's not not yet? What is oil? Though?
Speaker 1: If not, the Earth's come? So I think we are, honestly,
Speaker 1: And I who said that? Was that? R? L? Stein? Yes?
Speaker 1: I think so. Yeah. The first sentence in say cheese
Speaker 1: and die, I think it was. Yeah. I thought it was,
Speaker 1: you know, he was dedicating the book to someone, but no,
Speaker 1: it was actually just sage, Sage wisdom. Do you imagine
Speaker 1: just like those pages that are just dedicated just a
Speaker 1: serious book. In the first one, you're like, You're like,
Speaker 1: isn't oil just the Earth's come? Like she what age
Speaker 1: group is this book for? Who is this four? This
Speaker 1: reprint of Infinite Jest is something else? The infinite Jizz?
Speaker 1: I'm sorry? What here he is? Yes, we're back, young Chaos,
Speaker 1: Young Chaos, little chaos. Blake, you are coming to us
Speaker 1: from the streets of Philadelphia. I am no, what's good man?
Speaker 1: What's new in Philly? Philly's great. We had trash pick
Speaker 1: up day today, which was one of my favorite days
Speaker 1: of the week. You know, you clean the slate and
Speaker 1: start over, pile that stuff up again. Found a dead
Speaker 1: squirrel on the wind shield of my car, which I
Speaker 1: took personally, and yeah, so that said fuck you, Blake.
Speaker 1: Your next it said you did this to me, Blake Lexler.
Speaker 1: And then the first four numbers of my social were
Speaker 1: generally it's the first three or the last. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: they did first four this time time. But yeah, no
Speaker 1: dead Vermins and trash day nowmithstanding, Philadelphia is great? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know you've painted a beautiful picture. Yeah, I really
Speaker 1: thank you. It's I'm a words myth, and I think
Speaker 1: being a word s myth, I like drawing pictures with
Speaker 1: my words. So yeah, we'll wonderful. Do you y'all? Do
Speaker 1: you ever do that thing where you look at you,
Speaker 1: like when you take your cans out, You're like, man,
Speaker 1: I can get another weekend cans. They're called breast smiles
Speaker 1: cans broge here for the for the garbage pick up.
Speaker 1: I did that the other day. I'm like, I'm so,
Speaker 1: I'm such a dedicated bringer out of my garbage cans,
Speaker 1: Like there'll be one can in it, and I'll be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: they should probably take this, But part of me is
Speaker 1: like that seems like a waste of everyone's energy. If
Speaker 1: like like sometimes if it's like less than a quarter full,
Speaker 1: well on trash day, I'm like, I'll save them. I'll
Speaker 1: save it. Yeah, I'll do the same thing where it's like,
Speaker 1: well if I just hold onto this for another week.
Speaker 1: Cans don't generally smell because the smell is my worst fear,
Speaker 1: but just period, the smell by trash is my worst fear.
Speaker 1: But no, you're right with across all the spectrum of
Speaker 1: your yeah brain, aneurism, earthquake, all those distant bite distant
Speaker 1: number two, the smell of my cans. But yeah, no
Speaker 1: can wise. Yeah, I mean if it just piles up
Speaker 1: for another week, wait three weeks? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: It depends on the heat, you know, because I've think
Speaker 1: I've chanced it before and I nearly like ended my
Speaker 1: own life with like a bunch of old shrimp that
Speaker 1: was in a garbage Oh no, like in the in
Speaker 1: the heat. Not what could we talk about? Sorry, my
Speaker 1: nose hairs like fell out of my nose, like I remember,
Speaker 1: Like the ammonia was like like little there's some dead
Speaker 1: bodies we need to resurrect, bring them by this can.
Speaker 1: That's some Christ. Yeah, no crustacean talk now on as
Speaker 1: if you guys could be friends and not talk about
Speaker 1: or mollusks. Okay, alright, Blake, we're gonna get to know
Speaker 1: you a little bit better in a moment. First, a
Speaker 1: couple of things we're talking about. We're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: Mark Zuckerberg. Thus spoke zuck. He spoke on you know,
Speaker 1: all the all these you know, wild accusations being thrown
Speaker 1: at Facebook. And he doesn't even like it's like they're
Speaker 1: it's like these people are like a different planet, man,
Speaker 1: Like what what are what are they even talking this? Really?
Speaker 1: They say that about the great work we do. Come on,
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about the January six witnesses, who are
Speaker 1: seeming like they're hoping to run out the clock on
Speaker 1: having to testify in front of the Congressional January six
Speaker 1: Committee because they have nothing to hide, so they're just
Speaker 1: gonna or their subpoenas. We're gonna talk about Havana syndrome.
Speaker 1: There's a new newly unclassified report that we'll talk about
Speaker 1: the implications of that. We will talk about the war
Speaker 1: on Christmas, which the lives have already started, and we
Speaker 1: will talk about why the Zodia Act killer has not
Speaker 1: been identified. Finally, Yeah, what's the fund is that? I
Speaker 1: just nott on Twitter? There's so many Zodiac killer jokes
Speaker 1: to catch me up on these things. I wish I
Speaker 1: gave a funk about the Yeah, that's one of those
Speaker 1: things where people just wrote a million Zodiac jokes and
Speaker 1: then they didn't get to like get them all out,
Speaker 1: and they've just been holding onto them and then anything
Speaker 1: tangentially related to the Zodiac Killer they get to just
Speaker 1: unleash those like, you know, jokes they've had on ice
Speaker 1: for the past however many years. My friend drafts, Yes,
Speaker 1: that's as good of an explanation as anything I've been
Speaker 1: able to come up with for why that story has
Speaker 1: like blown up, because it's that the claim to like
Speaker 1: they've solved that they have these are the people who
Speaker 1: we would trust to solve it is non existent. I'm
Speaker 1: I'm totally confused by how this has become a thing.
Speaker 1: But before we get to any of that ship Blake,
Speaker 1: we do like to ask our guests, what is something
Speaker 1: from your search history. I will tell you that I
Speaker 1: just wanted to give Biles props God forbid real quick
Speaker 1: where he made me laugh so hard in the intro
Speaker 1: when you referred to a pretzel rod as a straight shooter.
Speaker 1: I lost it. Yeah, I don't know, I'm not really
Speaker 1: My vocabulary is has been altered by many drugs, so
Speaker 1: I I arrived at different ways to describe things that,
Speaker 1: you know, than most people. Jack just took it as
Speaker 1: just oh, that's a completely normal way to refer just
Speaker 1: a straight straight shooter. Straight shooters get the straight shooters. Uh, nuggies.
Speaker 1: There's all kinds of pretzels, the pretzel taxonomy. I get.
Speaker 1: I get. It's a strange world. Okay, my search history,
Speaker 1: Uh was that your question? Was that your question that
Speaker 1: you asked six seconds ago that I don't remember. I
Speaker 1: searched Richard Gear Bill Clinton because I was watching that
Speaker 1: impeachment show and we were like two and a half
Speaker 1: episodes in my fiance and I and I turned to
Speaker 1: her and I said, oh, I can't believe they got
Speaker 1: Dick Gear, and she just kind of ignored it because
Speaker 1: she thought it was like a dick joke. And then
Speaker 1: after the episode, I searched like, oh wow, like I'm
Speaker 1: under you know, is he like how many episodes? Like
Speaker 1: has he ever done something like this? And then it
Speaker 1: wasn't Richard Gear. It's Clive Owen who was playing it.
Speaker 1: And for three whole episodes of the show, I thought
Speaker 1: Bill Clinton was played by Richard Gear and had not
Speaker 1: a clue in hell, Like if you if I was
Speaker 1: to bet the safety of my loved ones and my dog,
Speaker 1: I'd be like, yeah, it's Richard Gear, clearly. But now
Speaker 1: it's not Richard Gear. It said. I mean, it's like
Speaker 1: how you went like real familiar to right right? Well,
Speaker 1: you know, you gotta keep it interesting around that. Were
Speaker 1: you able to find any other people making the same
Speaker 1: mistake as you? Like that? That's always important when I
Speaker 1: make a mistake is to be like, well, a lot
Speaker 1: of other people like this has to be a trending
Speaker 1: search term. Will just you know, say that, I can't
Speaker 1: find anybody else making this mistake. I was too busy
Speaker 1: looking up brain bleeds and uh, you know, other serious
Speaker 1: medical issues to look into the rest of it. But yeah, no,
Speaker 1: that is a good way. What do you have one
Speaker 1: like that, Jack, where one time like you thought this,
Speaker 1: and then a bunch of people like I haven't seen
Speaker 1: anyone think Richard, you're for this. I don't even know
Speaker 1: if the guy is still alive. Nobody knows. Nobody knows.
Speaker 1: It's actually impossible to know. There's no way to know
Speaker 1: for sure. How could you verify something like that? Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I have a couple of these every day. My latest
Speaker 1: was was just coming to the conclusion that everything is
Speaker 1: fruits there there are no vegetables, and people were quick
Speaker 1: to point out a bunch of a bunch of trends
Speaker 1: of that nature that. So what I do is I
Speaker 1: come on this show and just talk about how I'm
Speaker 1: wrong about everything, and then people are like, yeah, me too,
Speaker 1: and yeah that's how. Yeah, this is all a ruse
Speaker 1: just for Jack to feel better about Like, what don't
Speaker 1: we talk about this other thing? Jack, He's like, I
Speaker 1: can't believe I didn't know about this anyone else, anyone else. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think the closest I did was like I didn't
Speaker 1: realize it was Jillian Anderson in the Crown playing Margaret
Speaker 1: Thatcher the whole time, and I didn't even it didn't
Speaker 1: even register. It was one of those things. I just
Speaker 1: I accepted the performance as it was, and it was
Speaker 1: so strong. I was just I don't I didn't even
Speaker 1: question who the performer was. I was like, this is
Speaker 1: Margaret Thatcher in the Crown, Margaret Thatcher as herself, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Crown. Yeah, And I just I don't know why.
Speaker 1: I just it never occurred to me. Normally I'd be like, wow,
Speaker 1: this this performance is great. I think on someone it was.
Speaker 1: It was so disarming. I went further and I was like,
Speaker 1: this is a reality show. I think these are like
Speaker 1: this is very very te stuff. It's Margaret Thatcher. Was
Speaker 1: so weird that you think it's a bad performance before
Speaker 1: you like, look up a clip of her. You're like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's literally that's literally what she was, like, like that's
Speaker 1: how she spoke man a very very affected way. But like,
Speaker 1: what is something you think is over it? Subtitles? When
Speaker 1: you're watching television shows, if you're watching the show in
Speaker 1: your language, like in the language that you speak, like
Speaker 1: if you're watching a show in another language you don't
Speaker 1: understand by all means, put subtitles Like I don't I
Speaker 1: can context clues this probably understand. I gotta learn the
Speaker 1: hard way. Yeah, I gotta. It's immersive. Yeah, but no,
Speaker 1: I I know a lot of people and I do
Speaker 1: this myself where you know, either you don't want the
Speaker 1: volume on two loud because volume on things like swings
Speaker 1: in such an insane way when you're watching something where
Speaker 1: it could be people whispering and then there's like a
Speaker 1: war scene and it's so fucking loud, you gotta like
Speaker 1: turn the volume down real quick so you don't get evicted.
Speaker 1: But so anyway, that was a tangent that, um, I
Speaker 1: don't know how I got there, but my point is
Speaker 1: is that I think, you know, I know, sometimes we'll
Speaker 1: do subtitles if it's like like an English show for instance,
Speaker 1: that you don't like. You can't pick up my accents
Speaker 1: very well. Peaky is blinder, peaky, the blinders peaky. And
Speaker 1: but in general, I think like a lot of people
Speaker 1: leave it on, like I know, a lot of people
Speaker 1: leave subtitles on. Take it off, you know, take it off,
Speaker 1: enjoy the show, taking the visuals. Don't read the show
Speaker 1: if you don't have to. Mm hmmm, I see, I
Speaker 1: like it. I like it on me. Well, you know
Speaker 1: that's what I said. You know, I guess that I'm
Speaker 1: glad you came to fully implode your whole appearance here
Speaker 1: on the show. So whenever what was gonna happen eventually, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, but what better way than this? But for me,
Speaker 1: it's mostly because like I'll be high and sometimes my
Speaker 1: comprehension is better if I'm reading dialogue at certain times,
Speaker 1: or if yeah, I think that's usually it, or like
Speaker 1: in a case like Deadwood, like I had to keep
Speaker 1: the subtitles on because everything was so fast paced and colloquial.
Speaker 1: I did not know what was going on. And that's
Speaker 1: a good point. Yeah, there are there are exceptions. That's
Speaker 1: a very good point. There are exceptions. Thank you, thank
Speaker 1: you so much for giving me, granting me a religious
Speaker 1: exemption for that anytime. Yeah, sometimes that it will spoil
Speaker 1: what you're watching, like the real will come on, come
Speaker 1: in the subtitles before it's actually spoken. Yeah, Like when
Speaker 1: I was watching Old Yeller, I saw bang in brackets
Speaker 1: before they shot the dog. I like, I was like,
Speaker 1: fuck a double way. I mean, you know, it will
Speaker 1: also spoil comedy too, like in all yeah, like a
Speaker 1: joke real quick where it's like, but you'll start laughing
Speaker 1: before you know. If it's a really good show and
Speaker 1: then they do the joke, it's it's a very odd
Speaker 1: way to digest something. But yeah, yeah, I was. I
Speaker 1: recently ruined like a really funny punch line in the
Speaker 1: other two for having the subtitles on, and I was like,
Speaker 1: Noah probably would have hit harder I saw that performance
Speaker 1: rather than like I was like reading a script. And yeah,
Speaker 1: to that point, I definitely agree with comedies, the timing
Speaker 1: of the subtitles does not honor the timing of the delivery.
Speaker 1: So sometimes the jokes are they land a bit better
Speaker 1: when you hear them delivered exactly. I I read them
Speaker 1: out loud while I'm watching it. Too. You know, let
Speaker 1: my wife know that I predicted it, you know, like
Speaker 1: I knew that subtimes too. That's but it'll be a
Speaker 1: dead scene, you know, like a like a dead scene
Speaker 1: where it's not like super high impact and just reading
Speaker 1: it out it's just the most annoying thing that you
Speaker 1: can complai. Yeah, whispering it like really loud, No, I
Speaker 1: never loved you, or mouthing it. Yeah, we're all mouthing
Speaker 1: it right now, but we don't. Yeah, it's a podcast,
Speaker 1: but they've been robbed of that. Yes, squid game. I've
Speaker 1: I've watched now half of the third episode. This is
Speaker 1: how I watched TV. And you know, with kids, as
Speaker 1: you watch until they wake up or you know, you
Speaker 1: pass out sitting up. But it's you really can't funk
Speaker 1: with your phone all that much while you're watching a
Speaker 1: show that does require subtitles to understand, Like, yeah, you
Speaker 1: gotta respect the material. M that because that that second episode,
Speaker 1: and I don't know if you don't. I'm not going
Speaker 1: to try and spoil anything. But there was like a
Speaker 1: moment where there's this other character and I was like
Speaker 1: I looked down for a second and missed all the
Speaker 1: context around this character. And I'm like, what the wait,
Speaker 1: where did this guy come from? And I was like
Speaker 1: I had to stop and go back like five minutes
Speaker 1: to realize. So, yeah, that's a I've never told anyone.
Speaker 1: At the first time I saw the Country for Old
Speaker 1: Men in the theater, I just spaced out at the
Speaker 1: end when he was doing that speech and then it
Speaker 1: like ended, and everyone's like wow, And I'm like I
Speaker 1: had no clue, like no idea four years. Like for
Speaker 1: for maybe four or five years, everyone talk about how
Speaker 1: great it was. I'm like, yeah, it was great, but
Speaker 1: I didn't know why it was great. Oh the Tommy
Speaker 1: Lee Jones speech. Yeah, the Tommy Lee Jones speech. Could
Speaker 1: did not hear a word of it, Like was staring,
Speaker 1: but did not hear a single word of it. What
Speaker 1: is something you think is underrated? Underrated? Owning as much
Speaker 1: underwear as possible? Like and because whenever I do laundry,
Speaker 1: it is almost always because I run out of like
Speaker 1: clean boxer. I don't know why I felt it need
Speaker 1: to clarify what type of but you have boxer briefs
Speaker 1: and um what brand? Lucky brand? Actually? Wow? Yeah, when
Speaker 1: you find a brand that works, I think you know,
Speaker 1: for me, I stick with it and hopefully i'll you know,
Speaker 1: get a couple not to make this a lucky brand commercial?
Speaker 1: What why are you so brand loyal? What happened? It's so,
Speaker 1: I mean if we I have like openings a thick
Speaker 1: actually the smallest fly opening out of all, it's almost jokey. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I find it. Yeah, it's it's comforting in that way
Speaker 1: in there. Yeah, to be honest, it is like I
Speaker 1: have like a thicker ass, and they're good for a
Speaker 1: thick ass. So yeah, about sometimes you'll go, I'm in
Speaker 1: a similar situation. I'm just thick thighed, and sometimes my
Speaker 1: the waste won't be the same as what the leg
Speaker 1: holes need to be. And I'm like, you'll either be
Speaker 1: like this fucking super loose waste but the leg holes
Speaker 1: fit right, or you're wearing something that your waist fits right,
Speaker 1: but you are like actively cutting off, like like your
Speaker 1: femoral artery is being constricted by the underwear. So I
Speaker 1: feel that. Okay, i'mnna looking into that. Yeah, it's good,
Speaker 1: it's good. Try it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I have four
Speaker 1: pairs of box brief twins that are of all underwear,
Speaker 1: just four pairs, So I four that are like recent
Speaker 1: and you know, I really like those, and we'll do
Speaker 1: laundry to get those. And then I have like twenty
Speaker 1: pairs that are like disintegrating. Yeah, I don't like totally.
Speaker 1: I'm I need to change those out. But is that okay?
Speaker 1: Quick question for the this triumvirate we have here is
Speaker 1: it is this dude is watching your father wear disintegrated
Speaker 1: underwear because my dad one of my earliest memories been like,
Speaker 1: I think my dad is is in a is in
Speaker 1: a bad place because his underwear is disintegrating. And I
Speaker 1: remember early on my mom was like, you need no
Speaker 1: wonder where, but he was like, no, it's fine, it's fine,
Speaker 1: it's fine. And I'm like looking like the second you
Speaker 1: said that, I was having a moment where I looked
Speaker 1: at a pair of under and I got no, I
Speaker 1: I get a few more out of these. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I don't know why. But I don't know if that's
Speaker 1: learned or not. Now it wasn't learned for me. My
Speaker 1: dad was on top of this underwear game. And just
Speaker 1: you know that a hepple fell real far from the tree. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it is also the fact that no one
Speaker 1: sees it. Really you know what I mean, where if
Speaker 1: you had a tattered shirt, you people be like this
Speaker 1: guy's like is yeah in a bad plating. They're not
Speaker 1: doing well, you know, But like tattered underwear, it's like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, it's still not necessarily uncomfortable, but you know,
Speaker 1: recently I was like, you know what, you have worked
Speaker 1: hard enough for a long enough that you don't need
Speaker 1: to have like this b team of like rags, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, like in the thing. So but
Speaker 1: but Jack, I can totally relate to what you're saying
Speaker 1: as well. It's just a thing like I don't think
Speaker 1: about I guess I just rocked the vapor wear sometimes,
Speaker 1: you know, just falling apart, threadbear barely hanging onto the
Speaker 1: waist band. And then sometimes I've like rage ripped them
Speaker 1: up while they're on. Wow. Yeah, just like anger at
Speaker 1: the like being in one of those like porcelain smashing rooms,
Speaker 1: ripping off your own underwear, like like like I've done
Speaker 1: that with a T shirt before. That is very satisfying.
Speaker 1: It's very on a T shirt, but like wait, do
Speaker 1: you have your pants on while you're shredding it off?
Speaker 1: So you just like pull it's a trick. Oh yeah, Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: that's what makes you do on most of my first dates. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the closer he called that. That's that's how he
Speaker 1: closed the deal. He'd tar off his own underwear. And
Speaker 1: I mean you knew very quickly that was someone to
Speaker 1: be like so put off by it that it ended there.
Speaker 1: Or they would lie about being put off and say
Speaker 1: that they had an appointment that they forgot they had.
Speaker 1: And those were the only two scenario. I have an appointment,
Speaker 1: or someone's like, oh my god, no, what is that. Alright,
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and we'll be back to
Speaker 1: talk about the news. And we're back and Mark Zuckerberg,
Speaker 1: you know, there's been a lot of negative talk negative
Speaker 1: Nellie's out here in the news talking talking trash about Facebook,
Speaker 1: and Mark Zuckerberg apparently just found out about it, and
Speaker 1: he's like, huh, how is this is not? Is not
Speaker 1: the company that I know? So he has decided to
Speaker 1: post on looks like on Facebook to defend the company.
Speaker 1: And yeah, he just sounds like he is a dictator
Speaker 1: who just can't just through like sheer Will is trying
Speaker 1: to convince people that none, none of these problems exist.
Speaker 1: It's very much a gaslight job, like on his own employees,
Speaker 1: because these people they're doing the fucking workful like these aren't.
Speaker 1: These are just like lemmings who are like, please give
Speaker 1: us are like if you're working in these different departments,
Speaker 1: like Francis Hoagan was, they know exactly what's going on.
Speaker 1: Because she's saying, these people are like in a lot
Speaker 1: of these other subgroups are getting upset that there isn't action.
Speaker 1: So he's saying, look, his first part of the letter
Speaker 1: is him talking about like, oh, that was a big
Speaker 1: boner on Monday Hunt with what'sapp going down? Oh, and
Speaker 1: then he's like, I'm sure many of you have found
Speaker 1: their recent coverage hard to read because it just doesn't
Speaker 1: reflect the company we know. And again he will not
Speaker 1: reference Francis Hoagan or referred to a whistle blow or
Speaker 1: anything of that nature. Quote. We care deeply about issues
Speaker 1: like safety, will being and meant all health. It's difficult
Speaker 1: to see coverage that misrepresents our work and our motives.
Speaker 1: At the most basic level. I think most of us
Speaker 1: just don't recognize the false picture of the company that
Speaker 1: is being painted. I'm I'm sorry about that. He goes
Speaker 1: on to say many of the claims don't make any sense.
Speaker 1: If we wanted to ignore research, why would we create
Speaker 1: an industry leading research program to understand these important issues
Speaker 1: in the first place. If we didn't care about fighting
Speaker 1: harmful content, then why would we employ so many more
Speaker 1: people dedicated to this than any other company in our space,
Speaker 1: even ones larger than us. I'm sorry, who is larger
Speaker 1: than them? Social media space? Yeah? What Google? I guess
Speaker 1: because of ads maybe if that's if they're looking as
Speaker 1: an ad business, But even then, I don't that's a
Speaker 1: weird claim even you know, even the bigger guys are
Speaker 1: doing stuff not as good as us, Like you're the
Speaker 1: fucking giant of the land. I love that he got
Speaker 1: a brag in there too, you know, like whenever someone's
Speaker 1: writing an apology and they find a way to brag
Speaker 1: as well, we have industry leading research. Just yeah, you
Speaker 1: don't have to put that in there. But it's funny
Speaker 1: because there's allegations about how research has been wound down,
Speaker 1: and Francis Howgan was even saying that, like they're like
Speaker 1: in Amy Colobus are their book touching on this fact
Speaker 1: that some of the data is not available to people
Speaker 1: who are actually trying to research a lot of this ship,
Speaker 1: so that's not really true Mark, And also like, yeah,
Speaker 1: just having a research body doesn't mean you're doing it
Speaker 1: to fucking like Exxon was researching global warming. That doesn't
Speaker 1: They're not like why would we have industry leading research.
Speaker 1: It's because they have to know what the funk their
Speaker 1: product does in the real world, and they're just like, okay, fun,
Speaker 1: don't talk about that ship. So based on like all
Speaker 1: the reading about in like the internal dynamics of Facebook,
Speaker 1: they do the research. They hire people like Halgan who
Speaker 1: do the research and make these recommendations, and it's not
Speaker 1: usually I don't think they fire them. They just ignore
Speaker 1: the funk out of them and promote the people who
Speaker 1: come up with ways to you know, increase engagement. Like
Speaker 1: it's it's just a it's a very passive way of
Speaker 1: just you know, dealing with a problem by not dealing
Speaker 1: with it. Basically, speaking of research body, if I was
Speaker 1: to describe Mark Zuckerberg's physique, I'd call it a research body,
Speaker 1: like that's that's how he looks. His other defense is
Speaker 1: also really like quote and if social media where it's
Speaker 1: responsible for polarizing society, as some people claim, then why
Speaker 1: are we seeing polarization increase in the US while it
Speaker 1: stays flat or declines in many countries with just as
Speaker 1: heavy use of social media around the world. Well maybe
Speaker 1: because you've been here longest. Yeah, it's a matter of time,
Speaker 1: because it's not like you haven't seen like other political
Speaker 1: unrest be explode out of people using Facebook. So I
Speaker 1: don't exactly know what his claim is because he's clearly
Speaker 1: avoiding things like ethnic cleansing that would be organized via
Speaker 1: face book, because that's not polarizing. It's just another very
Speaker 1: selective bit of data he's using to defend himself when
Speaker 1: I think it's just clear that he's desperate and this
Speaker 1: is all looks just fucking terrible. Yeah, And I like,
Speaker 1: I do think that is probably an effective line of argumentation,
Speaker 1: because it's true that, like social media isn't the only
Speaker 1: reason that polarization is increasing in the US, But I
Speaker 1: don't know, it's just very it is an ingredient. And also,
Speaker 1: like you said, there have been plenty of incidents where
Speaker 1: it escalated wildly and incredibly dangerously in other in other countries. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: And you know, people are like, do you have you
Speaker 1: looked in what's going on? In you know, me and
Speaker 1: mar and like, okay, whatever, we'll just we'll just look
Speaker 1: away from the glaring lights. And then this other one
Speaker 1: is just fantastic. The argument we deliberately push content that
Speaker 1: makes people angry for profit is deeply illogical. We make
Speaker 1: money from ads, and advertisers consistently tell us they don't
Speaker 1: want their ads next to harmful or angry content. And
Speaker 1: I don't know any tech company that sets out to
Speaker 1: build products that make people angry or depressed. The moral,
Speaker 1: business and product incentives all point in the opposite direction. Okay,
Speaker 1: that maybe, but I'm not sure. Again, this is another
Speaker 1: thing where, of course advertisers aren't like, yeah, man, put
Speaker 1: my ship next to like the most violent fucking video.
Speaker 1: The whole thing is you go to Facebook because of clicks.
Speaker 1: Any advertiser online goes to a media property for clicks
Speaker 1: or engagement and like, and just as Francis Hogan said,
Speaker 1: more engagement is the thing that you can hold up
Speaker 1: in front of people who are trying to buy ads
Speaker 1: and they go, oh fuck, yeah, so it's popping over there.
Speaker 1: That's where I'm trying to put my advertiser where there's
Speaker 1: a lot of activity. So even this one, it's so
Speaker 1: deeply illogical that this would how could that occur? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's easy to recategorize like things like that and be like, well,
Speaker 1: that's not designed to make people angry. They're interested in
Speaker 1: for this other reason, Like that's it's just such a
Speaker 1: vague explanation for like that allows them to just sort
Speaker 1: of recategorize things and let themselves off the hook. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's also a very inhuman response to a deeply human issue,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, where like these issues that
Speaker 1: people like the collateral damage that social media does are
Speaker 1: mental health. It's mental health. It's deeply human issues. And
Speaker 1: when you respond to it in such an analytical, you know,
Speaker 1: like computerized way, like completely Yeah, it just shows the
Speaker 1: exact problem the situation, like, well, know that the money
Speaker 1: comes in and that business is doing wean we're not
Speaker 1: actively trying to do Yeah, maybe not deliberately, but it's
Speaker 1: you're the way things are set up, that's where you're incentivized.
Speaker 1: So what are you saying here? But the last paragraph
Speaker 1: is like sounds like some evil villain that runs like
Speaker 1: this dystopian society. Oh wait, that is just him, he says.
Speaker 1: When I reflect on our work, I think about the
Speaker 1: real impact we have in the world. The people who
Speaker 1: can now stay in touch with their loved ones, create
Speaker 1: opportunities to support themselves and find community. This is why
Speaker 1: billions of people love our products. I'm proud of everything
Speaker 1: we do to keep building the best social products in
Speaker 1: the world, and grateful to all of you for the
Speaker 1: work you do here every day. Yeah sure, Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm really curious to see what his inner
Speaker 1: thought processes around this, because I'm sure that Richard Blumenthal thing,
Speaker 1: where's like yes ZARKI Zark Zark Muckerberg, Mark Zuckerberg needs
Speaker 1: to get in here and explain a lot of these
Speaker 1: things out loud and not just be like a senator.
Speaker 1: That's highly illogical. Um to say that, I don't know
Speaker 1: what that would look like, but it's it's hard to
Speaker 1: I don't know how you dance around really direct questions
Speaker 1: given Francis Hoggins testimony, and to just equate the fact
Speaker 1: that they get money for ads and advertisers like keep
Speaker 1: paying with they're not being a social problem is just
Speaker 1: so like, you know, it's it's just the most base
Speaker 1: level like market make good. Everything good gets market bucks,
Speaker 1: and the thing that they the reason that they are
Speaker 1: so dominant in advertising is the level of data that
Speaker 1: they've collected about anyone. It has nothing to do with
Speaker 1: like why people are on the site in the first place,
Speaker 1: Like they have unprecedented amounts of information and like these
Speaker 1: psychological profiles of people that are you know, things that
Speaker 1: if you had told an advertiser about it twenty years ago,
Speaker 1: they would have fucking shot in their pants, Like it's
Speaker 1: the best thing that they could possibly imagine. And yeah,
Speaker 1: the fact the fact that people are willing to pay
Speaker 1: for that has nothing to do with like the the
Speaker 1: idea that you're doing it for the right reason or
Speaker 1: using it in a non evil way. Sorry for the
Speaker 1: shot and the pants thing, it's just picturing Don Draper
Speaker 1: just hearing about Facebook and you know what, Oh my god, Yeah,
Speaker 1: truly a let's talk about um January six Commission or
Speaker 1: the Congressional January six Committee, because there are some pretty
Speaker 1: key players Dance Cavino, Mark Meadows, Steve Bannon, Cash Patel,
Speaker 1: who are all Trumpers that have been subpoena to testify
Speaker 1: in front of the Congressional January six Committee, and they're
Speaker 1: they're just like kind of ignoring it. Yeah, like they say,
Speaker 1: of like everyone except dance Govino they think has been served.
Speaker 1: But apparently dance Govino is just acting like a regular
Speaker 1: Prince Andrew in his attempts to duck process servers and
Speaker 1: just going too like a hidi hole to be like,
Speaker 1: I don't know anything about him, so you have to
Speaker 1: serve someone else. But despite all of that happening, it
Speaker 1: looks like even if they're served, their game plan is
Speaker 1: just to fucking ignore the subpoenas because Trump told them
Speaker 1: to and there's you know, the same thing blah blah
Speaker 1: blah executive privilege. Do they have a plan? There's like
Speaker 1: in this Guardian article, people like, it doesn't really seem
Speaker 1: like there's a plan here, more so that they would
Speaker 1: probably just try and run out the fucking clock and
Speaker 1: hope the Republicans take the House back by the mid
Speaker 1: terms and then what January six commission are we talking about? Yeah,
Speaker 1: so a bit of a cynical play from them, but
Speaker 1: I expect nothing less from people who are you know,
Speaker 1: hell bent on just you know, overturning an election. But yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, people in the committee though, have said from
Speaker 1: the beginning, like this isn't gonna be the same as
Speaker 1: like when Trump was in the White House, how we're
Speaker 1: going to handle executive privilege. Sure, Mark Meadows and Scovino,
Speaker 1: they definitely worked in the West Wing, so there is
Speaker 1: an element there of executive privilege. But in terms of
Speaker 1: like using that to like not comply with this subpoena
Speaker 1: there they have been saying like we we will issue
Speaker 1: criminal referrals like if we if if we're being ignored.
Speaker 1: I hope that's what happens. Part of me, just looking
Speaker 1: at the data set of the American legal system and
Speaker 1: how powerful white men are able to get away with anything,
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit worried that that might not happen.
Speaker 1: But it also seems like, you know, many of the
Speaker 1: people on the committee are really interested in at least
Speaker 1: trying to find some semblance of accountability. But it's like
Speaker 1: one of those things where you just kind of like,
Speaker 1: wait and see. I guess yes, speaking of powerful white men,
Speaker 1: I had a very scary situation recently where I saw
Speaker 1: Steve Bannon wearing the same coat that I own, and
Speaker 1: it was absolutely horrifying. Where I was really really excited
Speaker 1: about by d coat and then saw Steve Bannon wearing
Speaker 1: it was a barber coat wearing the same brand, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I don't know what the funk to
Speaker 1: know what I think about anything anymore? To be true,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess if I have the same
Speaker 1: fashion sense is that pig, I should probably just let
Speaker 1: someone else shop for me. You are wearing three three
Speaker 1: colored shirts right now, on top of each other, the
Speaker 1: only the middle collars popped the other or appropriately pressed down. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he really loves that coat, huh. I feel like he
Speaker 1: has on like five J Crew outfits at any given time,
Speaker 1: just like on top of each other. Yeah. So I
Speaker 1: guess it maybe looks more balling if you wear like
Speaker 1: multiple pieces of clothing, like just so you know, like
Speaker 1: you maybe you may have three hundred dollars or the
Speaker 1: clothing on, but I have seven thousand dollars or the
Speaker 1: clothing because I'm wearing fourteen shirts and thirteen pairs of pants. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So he's actually a very slender man. We just couldn't
Speaker 1: tell because of you never know, you've been wearing the
Speaker 1: whole time, just big fear of his losing his clothes,
Speaker 1: This big and greatest fear that in America, his greatest
Speaker 1: fears are doing the right thing is number one, losing
Speaker 1: and losing all my clothes just a serious interview, and like,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's I know it may sound weird,
Speaker 1: but if you've ever lost all your clothes, it's it's
Speaker 1: a frightening prospect. And I just want allowed myself. I
Speaker 1: just want allow that to happen to me. Steve, what happened?
Speaker 1: How did you lose your clothes? It went to a wedding. Look,
Speaker 1: they lost my baggage. I had to wear a suit
Speaker 1: that was a little too baggy for me, and it
Speaker 1: was just Ever since then, I vowed to always wear
Speaker 1: on my clothes. People kept talking about the Emperor has
Speaker 1: new Emperor's new clothes around like around the Trump administration.
Speaker 1: He finally read it and was like, oh no, that
Speaker 1: went the opposite direction. Just in case some of these
Speaker 1: are invisible, I want to guarantee no one sees me naked.
Speaker 1: Yeah about at fourteen cultures. All right, let's take another
Speaker 1: quick break and we will be right back to talk.
Speaker 1: Havanna syndrome. Havannah good time, and we're back and so
Speaker 1: BuzzFeed released a de classified scientific review of the attacks
Speaker 1: that have been described as Havannah syndrome. That the attacks
Speaker 1: should be in quotes, because they found what we had
Speaker 1: suspected what a lot of people have talked about, that
Speaker 1: the noises that they were associating with the attacks that
Speaker 1: first happened in Havannah were crickets and it was a
Speaker 1: D classified like State Department studies. So it's not this
Speaker 1: isn't like an outside researcher, this is like what they
Speaker 1: have learned themselves. Now, around this time, the Biden administration
Speaker 1: had started referring to Havana syndrome is unexplained health incidents,
Speaker 1: which kind of suggested they were backing off of the
Speaker 1: idea that they were deliberate attacks from you know, adversaries.
Speaker 1: But because that became a story, they now have issued
Speaker 1: a new report that seemed to back and like jump
Speaker 1: back into the this is an attack camp because the
Speaker 1: people who you know, are suffering the symptoms believe that
Speaker 1: they were attacked and that they're very sensitive understandably about
Speaker 1: because we're in their country attacking them, right exactly, So
Speaker 1: you very much would be the fuck. Okay, I'm just
Speaker 1: I'm just a nurse, that's all. I am, not a CIA.
Speaker 1: But yeah, the Miami Harold Peace about like the new
Speaker 1: this new direction quotes a and the this is a
Speaker 1: trend senior administration official, but no name. We need to
Speaker 1: believe our personnel who are coming forward, people are facing
Speaker 1: real symptoms. We are very conscious that people are experiencing
Speaker 1: something very real and it's having a real negative effect
Speaker 1: on their health health and we're seeing better health outcomes
Speaker 1: the sooner we can respond to that. So it's like
Speaker 1: they're trying to treat it as though it's a real thing,
Speaker 1: because it is, as we've talked about functional disorders, like
Speaker 1: they're the real thing. That these people are experiencing real symptoms,
Speaker 1: they're not just making them up, but that it is
Speaker 1: probably a neurological and you know, a stress based thing.
Speaker 1: That and that is the thing that explanation is very
Speaker 1: offensive to anybody who is suffering from this. And so
Speaker 1: that there's this new article from Jacobin that just kind
Speaker 1: of puts this in the context of a bunch of
Speaker 1: different stories over the course of like the last twenty
Speaker 1: five years that have been kind of adopted and just
Speaker 1: repeated by the mainstream media because they are you know,
Speaker 1: they go in the direction of like helping America maintain
Speaker 1: an aggressive foreign policy. So they start with a Havna
Speaker 1: syndrome reporting and just like all the different headlines that
Speaker 1: flatly state that Cuba attacked US diplomats, which you know
Speaker 1: are generally CIA agents, and you know, pointing out that
Speaker 1: any time somebody is quoted, it's always they're always quoted
Speaker 1: on background, or they're quoted as like a unidentified administration official,
Speaker 1: and they point out like this is this happened immediately
Speaker 1: after Trump indicated that they were going his administration was
Speaker 1: going to go like hard in the opposite direction of
Speaker 1: the Obama administration, start being like really hostile towards Cuba.
Speaker 1: And then this event happened, and they seized on it
Speaker 1: and started ramping up their negative foreign policy. But they
Speaker 1: kind of put it in the context of you know,
Speaker 1: the New York Times, all these mainstream media outlets trusting
Speaker 1: military officials on things like Russia Gate, which in addition
Speaker 1: to being hostile towards Trump, was also allowed the military
Speaker 1: to make Russia seem more dangerous. And you know, with
Speaker 1: a lot of the Iran reporting towards the end of
Speaker 1: the Trump administration, because they were trying to justify a
Speaker 1: like this says Iran on it. I don't know if
Speaker 1: what you want to do with that, maybe do a war.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know, I don't know. There's no
Speaker 1: we don't have a pattern of doing that at all
Speaker 1: in this country. Yeah, but it just reminds me of
Speaker 1: like the you know, we talked about the news real
Speaker 1: ying on police sources and especially like for the local news,
Speaker 1: and like, you know, the guys with guns are the
Speaker 1: sources that they need to satisfy like audience blood lust,
Speaker 1: and like their willingness to chase that blood lust makes
Speaker 1: it so that we live in a world that we
Speaker 1: think is more dangerous and keeps people tuning in, and
Speaker 1: it also just creates this sort of feedback loop where
Speaker 1: you know, the version of like the world that exists
Speaker 1: in the minds of the military and the police gets
Speaker 1: like filtered back to us over and over again, and
Speaker 1: it's just, you know, why, why is that, Like after
Speaker 1: the most catastrophic like mistake in the you know, recent
Speaker 1: history of America going to war and Iraq was like
Speaker 1: turned out to be based on a complete lie, you'd
Speaker 1: think that the mainstream media would have like altered their
Speaker 1: approach a little bit and been a little bit more
Speaker 1: willing to pump the brakes on ship like this, But
Speaker 1: it just seems like that is as currently constituted, Like
Speaker 1: unless something kind of dramatically changes, the mainstream media will
Speaker 1: let the military feed them, you know, bullshit. I think
Speaker 1: that the tolerance for bullshit stories from the Pentagon is
Speaker 1: higher because they're all they all have a relationship with
Speaker 1: each other. You know. It's like you have a homie
Speaker 1: who may bend the truth from time to time. You're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, that wasn't the best thing, but we're still
Speaker 1: good because I know you. And it's the same thing,
Speaker 1: like you'll get burned by just straight up misinformation from
Speaker 1: the Pentagon, and still it's like, no, it's all good,
Speaker 1: like you don't worry about it, Like we gotta keep
Speaker 1: this thing going. You know, General Electric and the Pentagon
Speaker 1: do some good business together. And we're also NBC, so
Speaker 1: you know, well let's let's you know, we're not gonna
Speaker 1: make it too hot for anybody. Yeah, can I be
Speaker 1: honest about this before we move on, just real quick.
Speaker 1: I think this Havana syndrome is jamaking me crazy? Are
Speaker 1: you you gotta have they had a tough time about
Speaker 1: I'm having a tough time the vents and it's the
Speaker 1: sword of God. I'm being serious. I know it's making
Speaker 1: the problems, that's the problem. Oh man, Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: so many reporters like get into the game because they
Speaker 1: would like want to be war correspondents, like they have
Speaker 1: that like kind of you know, they grew up on
Speaker 1: the idea of like going to Vietnam and being a
Speaker 1: reporter on that or you know, and it just you know,
Speaker 1: as Blake, I think you were suggesting as jamaking them crazy.
Speaker 1: It is and that's exactly not even suggesting just what
Speaker 1: I was pointed Lee saying, I think there's no room
Speaker 1: for interpretation there. In college, I had a I took
Speaker 1: a class called war reporting, and my professor was a
Speaker 1: former like embedded journalist, and he would never he would
Speaker 1: always just show us movies and we would never were
Speaker 1: like it's like, why, like you have the most interesting
Speaker 1: story in the world, why wouldn't you just teach us?
Speaker 1: And then one day there was this growing class like
Speaker 1: who just well, maybe like laid in a little too hard,
Speaker 1: being like all you do is show us movies, Like
Speaker 1: why don't you actually instruct us and tell us what
Speaker 1: it was like being there? And a forty five minutes
Speaker 1: story of one of the most emotionally traumatizing things I've
Speaker 1: ever heard in my entire life. The one time he
Speaker 1: ever told a story about his time and war, about
Speaker 1: how his guide was like murdered right in front of him,
Speaker 1: and then the whole class was like completely silent. Negoes
Speaker 1: all right, I think we're done for the day, and
Speaker 1: then he and we're like never asked him to talk
Speaker 1: about it again. We just watched movies for the rest
Speaker 1: of the semester because it was that. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why he doesn't talk about it, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Anyway, this random side note, but seriously, that
Speaker 1: that JA made me sane. That the joke doesn't work
Speaker 1: when you change it. That JA made me sane. You
Speaker 1: can workshop that one. Yeah, come back, that's the fun.
Speaker 1: Well we came up with okay, yeah, yeah, that's fine.
Speaker 1: I think it will stand. Just maybe it's give it
Speaker 1: a few years. Yeah yeah, we'll just we'll come back.
Speaker 1: Pittsford will do the the red Yeah, alright, let's talk
Speaker 1: about the War on Christmas. That was the war that
Speaker 1: he was embedded in. By the way he was embedded
Speaker 1: in the War on Christmas, it's uh it's begun. Fauci
Speaker 1: said in an interview that it's just too soon to
Speaker 1: tell whether holiday gatherings will need to be restricted due
Speaker 1: to the pandemic for a second year in a row,
Speaker 1: which is here he goes alarm. It doesn't really say anything.
Speaker 1: It's like a non answer that doesn't really offer any
Speaker 1: specifics for what kind of restrictions they might put in place.
Speaker 1: But right wing media, you know, I I guess the
Speaker 1: fact that he was willing to answer a question like
Speaker 1: enraged right wing media. The National Review wrote an article
Speaker 1: calling him a grinch, and you know, their Fox and
Speaker 1: Friends labeled Faucia grinch because they you know, that was
Speaker 1: too good not to repurpose. October. It's October. They they're
Speaker 1: talking Grinch and claimed that he was about to cancel
Speaker 1: Christmas based on his statement that it's too soon to
Speaker 1: tell that I it's a seems fully fabricated. But so
Speaker 1: there are actually this year, like legitimate threats to the
Speaker 1: Christmas traditions that they seem to hold so dear, such
Speaker 1: as you know, supply chain problems that are going to
Speaker 1: make it so that it's harder to order presents for people,
Speaker 1: or you know, the due to uh, climate change, there
Speaker 1: are fewer Christmas trees available, and you know, there's a
Speaker 1: shortage of truck drivers because as their wages have declined
Speaker 1: over the years, there's just been a problem with finding
Speaker 1: enough people to do that job. As The New York
Speaker 1: Times pointed out, it takes a peculiar, a peculiar form
Speaker 1: of logic to cut pay steadily and then be shocked
Speaker 1: that fewer people want to do the job. But that's
Speaker 1: what happened in the truck driving industry. And also because
Speaker 1: of you know, slowdowns in manufacturing, there has been a
Speaker 1: slowdown in the production of fake Christmas trees. So these
Speaker 1: are all things that the real spirit of Christmas, and
Speaker 1: they don't they don't they're not interested in talking about
Speaker 1: that ship though. I mean, I think for their sake,
Speaker 1: like the Fox News that you probably don't want to
Speaker 1: have all of your unlike most of your unvaccinated base
Speaker 1: take airplanes to congregate because that you know, they're already
Speaker 1: like getting freaked out, like by the demographics of how
Speaker 1: like the pandemic is affecting things. So there's gonna be like, no, man,
Speaker 1: get together. Folks don't worry about any kind of spiking cases,
Speaker 1: just do your thing, y'all. I it's I don't know,
Speaker 1: this is just it's watched. It's it's fun watching them
Speaker 1: get so outraged. And I mean, so were there things
Speaker 1: in place that like actually stopped people from congregating or
Speaker 1: was it just like advice last year, like it's right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just that I like they I'm so confused what
Speaker 1: they like. At the height of the pandemic, they just
Speaker 1: offered guidance. They're like, okay, big brother, nice try asshole.
Speaker 1: Oh you said it's it's and advisable to gather with
Speaker 1: elderly family and when there aren't vaccines, Okay, yeah, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's yeah, they were just merely guidelines.
Speaker 1: But I think most people because they were able to
Speaker 1: look around in their communities or just the news and like, okay,
Speaker 1: so this is real and there's the potential for untold
Speaker 1: harm for people that I will I will heed these guidelines. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean jm Our writer Jam McNabb was pointing out
Speaker 1: that like this actually kind of obscures, how, you know,
Speaker 1: focusing on the idea that he merely mentioned that he
Speaker 1: might at one point consider giving some travel advisories around
Speaker 1: Christmas like, so that caused him to backtrack and he
Speaker 1: was Fauci was like, now you have misinterpreted me. I'll
Speaker 1: be spending Christmas with my family, which is like, again,
Speaker 1: way too soon to tell whether that's a good idea
Speaker 1: or not. The c d C uploaded their holiday guidance
Speaker 1: to their website, which was picked up by multiple news outlets,
Speaker 1: but then they deleted it because they had actually put
Speaker 1: up last year's holiday guidance instead of this year's and
Speaker 1: they haven't figured out what their guidance is going to
Speaker 1: be in twenty one. Fucking it's just a position for
Speaker 1: them to be in where they're like, fuck, don't say
Speaker 1: don't give them real advice or else they're gonna accuse
Speaker 1: us of stuff. So let's water it the funk down. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because the situation is just my uncle is a big
Speaker 1: Fox newsperson, and uh I gave him. I put like
Speaker 1: he's a bad guy, so I put call in his
Speaker 1: stocking and then he pulled it out and he's like,
Speaker 1: this is such a great gift. This is my favorite
Speaker 1: fuel source. So don't give Fox News people calling their
Speaker 1: stockings because they'll they'll completely misinterpret it as a gift.
Speaker 1: Did he did he take a bite out of it too.
Speaker 1: He's like, Oh, you don't think I will. You don't
Speaker 1: think I will watch this? Yeah, for the course of
Speaker 1: the next three days jokes on asshole. Yeah, oh god
Speaker 1: god yeah. But I mean the big news story of
Speaker 1: the day is really of yesterday. I guess that that
Speaker 1: the zodiacler has finally been identified according to TMZ and
Speaker 1: you know all the other main news sources, Fox News.
Speaker 1: So a group of researchers, I did someone named Gary
Speaker 1: Francis Post, who died in eighteen as the Zodiac killer.
Speaker 1: The degree toward this got pick up would have suggested
Speaker 1: it was like a law enforcement agency that had like
Speaker 1: done some some sort of d n A linkage um.
Speaker 1: But they so they're made This group has made up
Speaker 1: of former investigators and journalists, so essentially volunteers acting in
Speaker 1: no official capacity. They the case breakers, right, They're called
Speaker 1: the case Breakers, and they one of their like key
Speaker 1: theories is that Post also killed Sherry Joe Bates in
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty six, whose death was followed by a Zodiac
Speaker 1: like letter. And this is strange because the police were
Speaker 1: into a Zodiac like letters. So it's not like nobody
Speaker 1: entertained this idea that it was that was from the
Speaker 1: Zodiac Killer and her murder was part of the Zodiac killings.
Speaker 1: But they looked into it and the letter was revealed
Speaker 1: to be a hoax and an actual cold case units
Speaker 1: have already like investigated that that case and concluded that
Speaker 1: the murder is not connected to the Zodiac case. So
Speaker 1: they're just like putting out a theory that most people
Speaker 1: believed to have been widely disproven and saying, well, here,
Speaker 1: here's your evidence. And then there's also like the evidence
Speaker 1: that they're pointing to. Our photos from posts dark room
Speaker 1: actually matched scars on the police sketch of the Zodiac killer,
Speaker 1: which it's just it's just creases in a forehead. Oh no,
Speaker 1: oh no, come on, case breakers, Yeah, come with some
Speaker 1: come on come. They also claim that they deciphered new
Speaker 1: code and the Zodiac, like 's that could only be
Speaker 1: cracked if you knew if you know Gary's full name.
Speaker 1: But there they're not revealing that just yet. They want to.
Speaker 1: They're being proprietary about their solution. The fucking cyber Ninja's
Speaker 1: my pillow voting audit, Like, what the fund is it?
Speaker 1: Oh we go, we got it. You can't show you.
Speaker 1: We just can't show nobody right now, it's too explosive.
Speaker 1: Tom Colbert, who is one of the main case Breakers
Speaker 1: former job was working for a hard copy so I
Speaker 1: mean he knows how to do a good tease hell people,
Speaker 1: you know. But he was also a story broker, which
Speaker 1: is somebody who like buys up compelling stories and like
Speaker 1: sells them to people to make movies. He told the
Speaker 1: story rights for Flyaway Home and The vale Um, So
Speaker 1: so you know, like real hardcore grizzled crime solving ship
Speaker 1: gum shoe sh yeah, and yeah. It just feels weird
Speaker 1: that this is one that any news outlet, even if
Speaker 1: it's just t d Z, has like seized on and
Speaker 1: been like solved. I the reason I just started wheezing
Speaker 1: and laughing as I'm falling along in your document that
Speaker 1: you guys used, oh sorry to show behind the scenes
Speaker 1: look at the show. This is all coming from the
Speaker 1: top of my head. Blake. You're right, and I have
Speaker 1: loose scraps I keep by my desk. Then this is
Speaker 1: the document that I the one page document that I
Speaker 1: made for the show and the case Breaker team had,
Speaker 1: which I can't believe. I just said without laughing my
Speaker 1: way through it. But at case Breaker team, Um, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: it says eight following two followers on Twitter. You have
Speaker 1: a screen grab of it, like this is probably taken
Speaker 1: from a few weeks and now they have fourteen followers,
Speaker 1: so yeah, we're in the same place. Yeah, it's trending.
Speaker 1: It's trending. So so basically they're saying that the the
Speaker 1: case Breakers, the the evidence that they're working with has
Speaker 1: been debunked. So they're like, this is already built on
Speaker 1: like a false premise because we're already using debunked like
Speaker 1: you're trying to connect dots that really aren't there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean unless you like, look at look at the
Speaker 1: those forehead wrinkles. Man, I'm just saying, like those are
Speaker 1: pretty well. They better come with that info that they
Speaker 1: say they they're ready to decipher all the letters because
Speaker 1: we would have to know his full name and only
Speaker 1: we do. I mean, okay, how many people did the
Speaker 1: Zodiac Killer kill exactly? That's information that they have to
Speaker 1: prepriet You have to ask them. They yeah, they're they're
Speaker 1: holding back on they say, you'll never believe what we
Speaker 1: found out about how many five claim he claimed to
Speaker 1: have killed thirty seven five confirmed dead, but possibly twenty
Speaker 1: to twenty eight. Okay, interesting, just another example of their
Speaker 1: work on a famous story where people are you know,
Speaker 1: very horny to identify historical figures. Colbert got interested in
Speaker 1: the dB Cooper case. And yeah, so the dB Cooper
Speaker 1: was a bank robber who hijacked a plane and then
Speaker 1: jumped out of said plane after like you know, making
Speaker 1: everybody turn around, I guess, or go into the cockpit. Anyways,
Speaker 1: it's a people think that he probably didn't survive jumping
Speaker 1: out of the plane, but you know, it's very mysterious.
Speaker 1: They never found the body, and he thought he had
Speaker 1: figured out that it was this guy, Robert rack Straw,
Speaker 1: and so Colbert or Colbert approach. Rack Straw offered him
Speaker 1: twenty dollars to participate, and when he refused, Colbert threatened
Speaker 1: to have him hounded forever, and then he started catfishing
Speaker 1: ra Straw, who then in turn reverse catfished Colbert. And yeah,
Speaker 1: it just seems like real, real, top level you know,
Speaker 1: mature mature and you know, top level investigative ship going on, right,
Speaker 1: someone who's clearly not just trying to get the thing
Speaker 1: over the line. By any means necessary, true dedication to
Speaker 1: the truth, unflinching, you know, rather like fuck your life
Speaker 1: up if you don't admit your dB Cooper right. So this, Yeah,
Speaker 1: So that's that's the story of how the Zodiac Killer
Speaker 1: was salved was identified. Well, I'm glad to know that
Speaker 1: all the people who are talking about it, and now
Speaker 1: I can finally um, actually, every fucking tweet I see now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know j M, who is clearly into this,
Speaker 1: into the story of the Zodiac Killer, is saying like
Speaker 1: they're they could be right about who it is, but
Speaker 1: publishing articles like definitively claiming the Zodiac case has come
Speaker 1: to an end based on these people's work, it seems
Speaker 1: a little premature. Like I've read the story the headlines then,
Speaker 1: like I I've looked at the article and they were
Speaker 1: talking about the these case breakers, like they were a
Speaker 1: known quantity that like I should be familiar with. And
Speaker 1: the fact that they have fourteen followers fifteen now that
Speaker 1: I'm following them is um wild. They do have their
Speaker 1: own logo, which is not nothing, right, Yeah, it's kind
Speaker 1: of huge. Yeah, it looks like Charles Barkley's like signature
Speaker 1: shoe logo out of thirty four in there. Yes, as
Speaker 1: always such a pleasure having you. Where can people find
Speaker 1: you and follow you? The pleasure is online and I
Speaker 1: can share it with you if you'd like. But I yeah,
Speaker 1: I love being here. I always love doing this. I'm
Speaker 1: a huge fan of you guys. Um you can find
Speaker 1: me apt like Wexler on everything. Every Wednesday in Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: I do a show at St. Stephen's Green if you're
Speaker 1: in Philly. And then I have an exclusive for you guys.
Speaker 1: I have not announced this anywhere, but exclusive. Um, we
Speaker 1: have on November eighteenth, and char Elston Um recording my
Speaker 1: first one hour special so at Theater ninety one hour
Speaker 1: stand up special in November eighteen at EM So yeah,
Speaker 1: Verry have not didn't even announce it on my own
Speaker 1: goddamn podcast, Blake's Takes for God's Six. So yeah, but anyway,
Speaker 1: that's a that's coming in November November eight rank hm
Speaker 1: and uh, is there a tweet or some of the
Speaker 1: work of social media you've been enjoying. Yeah, there's a
Speaker 1: tweet from a at Case Breaker team and it's tweets
Speaker 1: tweets from Laurie kill Martin at any Laurie sixteen and
Speaker 1: um she tweeted a picture of Kieren Coulkin's character and
Speaker 1: Jerry from Secession holding one another, and Laurie just wrote,
Speaker 1: moving towards this stage of my life. It was very,
Speaker 1: very fun. But yeah, she's an incredible comedian. Writer. Miles
Speaker 1: Rare can people find you? What is a tweet you've
Speaker 1: been enjoying? Twitter? Instagram, Miles of Gray. Also the other
Speaker 1: show four twenty Day Fiance. Check us out of twitch
Speaker 1: dot tv sash for twenty Day Fiance to zero with
Speaker 1: Sophie Alexandra talking about ninety day. Some tweets that I like, Wow,
Speaker 1: let's see. First, one is from a Viagra You're in
Speaker 1: his d m S. Good for you, girl, He's easy.
Speaker 1: Go get him slick love that's been on it. Another
Speaker 1: one is from at brow tweeting b r o W
Speaker 1: t W e A t e N tweeting caterpillar walks
Speaker 1: snake Okay what caterpillar grows wings snake? Okay? What scupid?
Speaker 1: And then one more from a listener DJ baby back
Speaker 1: joy at cr Underscore. B O r o N tweeted
Speaker 1: not Miles and Jack roasting me alive because showed all
Speaker 1: your Starbucks collectors mugs like just sitting on this shelf,
Speaker 1: no shade. I love the Star Wars based ones, but yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a real movement to start collector game. They kept
Speaker 1: going and going. I was, I was blown away. I'm
Speaker 1: I have fully turned around on on this and I'm
Speaker 1: now in completely supportive of anybody's decision to collect those cups. There.
Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore Brian
Speaker 1: uh couple tweets I've been enjoying. Jamie Loftus. Jamie Loftus
Speaker 1: helped tweeted, I'm in the phase of getting my ship
Speaker 1: together where I'm adding a second ingredient to pasta, which
Speaker 1: is a very specific phase we've all been to. Uh
Speaker 1: and blank Peesh tweeted, why does spell check no McConaughey
Speaker 1: but not fuck and I have never spelled Matthew McConaughey's
Speaker 1: last name correctly. It's now now the hey, how now
Speaker 1: g funk out of here with that? And if you
Speaker 1: want to add fun just put it in your one
Speaker 1: of your contacts. It knows interesting if you want all
Speaker 1: that stuff. Yeah, rather than duck or ducking. Quick tip
Speaker 1: for the people who constantly curse and then get mad
Speaker 1: at the auto correct because it's like it's like duck
Speaker 1: auto correct duck and then all caps. Fuck if you
Speaker 1: can you yeah, get your contact yeah fucking all right. Well,
Speaker 1: you can find us on Twitter at daily Zeitgeys were
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Speaker 1: where he post our episodes in our foot notes where
Speaker 1: we link off to the information that we talked about
Speaker 1: in today's episode, as well as a song that we
Speaker 1: think your money enjoy. Miles. What song are we sending
Speaker 1: people to go check out? This is a track called
Speaker 1: Story of a Girl. Sorry, huh, I was saying this
Speaker 1: is the story of a girl the home world. Uh No,
Speaker 1: this is the story of a song called Runway Talk
Speaker 1: and it's by Khalil Blue featuring mavby Dog. It's just
Speaker 1: a dope, you know, just wrapped from from the twenty
Speaker 1: one century, right, you know. I'm I'm I'm coming out
Speaker 1: of my golden era hip hop cave more and more
Speaker 1: and just really ingesting as much like new rap as possible.
Speaker 1: And I just like again, just like yesterday's track Armor.
Speaker 1: I really like this. The production on this and I
Speaker 1: just like the flow, I like the swag. I just
Speaker 1: like it also, and I think you will too if
Speaker 1: you like some little, you know, some some new, some
Speaker 1: genre breaking hip hop. So this is Runway Talk by
Speaker 1: Khalil Blue. Al Right, well the Daily is That, guys,
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Speaker 1: That is going to do it for us this morning,
Speaker 1: but we are back this afternoon to tell you what
Speaker 1: is trending and we'll talk to you all that. Bye
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