Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two oh two,
Speaker 1: episode four of Days Like Guys Said, production of My
Speaker 1: Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take a
Speaker 1: deep dive into America's shared consciousness. It's Thursday, September twenty
Speaker 1: twenty one. My name is Jack O'Brien. Okay, she hates
Speaker 1: big nuts and she cannot lie. Some other brides might
Speaker 1: didn't I but when her man walks in without invermectin
Speaker 1: puts those big balls in her face, she's just gone.
Speaker 1: That is courtesy of either Rich Jefferson and uh Nicki
Speaker 1: Minaj's cousin's friend fiance or whatever. Yeah, yeah, and I'm
Speaker 1: thrilled to be joined as always by my co host
Speaker 1: Mr Miles Grady trying to go and clone the mammoth,
Speaker 1: but Jack said, no, no, no, Yes, it's being stink,
Speaker 1: but when it's living, you will no no no. Thank
Speaker 1: you so much to the super Tow for that just
Speaker 1: wonderful Amy Winehouse rehab remix, because you know, people are
Speaker 1: out here talking about bringing the fucking Willie mammoth back
Speaker 1: to life to end climate change. But that's one of
Speaker 1: the it's very hard to understand why. But thank you
Speaker 1: for that tribute to Amy. Nonetheless, Yeah, and fortunately they
Speaker 1: do have to check with me before doing it, so
Speaker 1: I guess to be it's not happening. Huh yeah, sorry,
Speaker 1: until you explain to me how getting an animal that
Speaker 1: eats Arctic grass is going to restore Arctic grass to
Speaker 1: the landscape. I it no for me, scientists, all right,
Speaker 1: you heard it? Well my We are thrilled to be
Speaker 1: joined by a very funny stand up comedian who writes
Speaker 1: for Nickelodeon's new show That Girl, Lele Nprs asked me
Speaker 1: another the New York Times of the New Yorker v
Speaker 1: O Glamour. You've heard her stand up on Sirius XM
Speaker 1: and seeing her on stages across the US. She hosts
Speaker 1: the podcasts Comedians with ghost Stories, and her book of
Speaker 1: Uplifting and Funny A trivia one day Smarter, drops on
Speaker 1: October twelfth. Please welcome the hilarious, untalented Emily Winter. Thank
Speaker 1: you so much. Thank you for having me on your
Speaker 1: wonderful show. Who told you to say it's wonderful? Come on?
Speaker 1: I got the memo. Thank you for coming on? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: where are you coming to us from? We're on the earth.
Speaker 1: Are you I am in Brooklyn, New York. I'm in
Speaker 1: red Hook on my little hole back here. Yeah. Nice.
Speaker 1: How did you fare during the floods and things like that? Sure,
Speaker 1: there was the first one. I was in the Wisconsin
Speaker 1: Dells and I was having no part of it, and
Speaker 1: apparently my place was fine. And it's shockingly the second one,
Speaker 1: I was fine too, as many of my friends got flooded. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we just got some extra mosquitoes. So that's wow. I
Speaker 1: didn't even think about that. Yeah. I have a backyard
Speaker 1: which is like, you know, basically, I'm it's a like
Speaker 1: a mansion in New York. I have a little tiny
Speaker 1: backyard and it's like just full of mosquitoes. Nobody's coming
Speaker 1: over ever again, Yeah we could bite proof suit on
Speaker 1: or something exactly. I hear that. Okay, so we I'm
Speaker 1: super intrigued by the podcast Comedians with Ghost Stories. Are
Speaker 1: you a believer? Do you do you believe in ghosts? Absolutely?
Speaker 1: I think? Do you? I mean, do you guys believe?
Speaker 1: Do you know? I don't know. I'm ghost adjacent. Does
Speaker 1: that mean you have someone close to you that's seen
Speaker 1: a ghost? Yes? Yes, but they they have they also
Speaker 1: have a propensity for bending the truth a lot. So
Speaker 1: it's hard, it's a it's a sore said I have
Speaker 1: to consider, and I'm like, you know, you also kind
Speaker 1: of just you'd like to see things happen certain ways
Speaker 1: about at the time, but I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm also being Japanese, a very ghost centric culture, so
Speaker 1: you know, I'm I wouldn't say I'm out here, like
Speaker 1: I wouldn't go somewhere and be like, I'm not afraid
Speaker 1: of anything, because on some level they freaked the funk
Speaker 1: out of me. But have I seen one? No? Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: there have been a hundred and seven billion people that
Speaker 1: have been alive and there's only one like seven and
Speaker 1: a half billion alive today, So like what happened to
Speaker 1: those hundred and seven billion? There's gotta just mathematically, there's
Speaker 1: gotta be a ghost, right, Oh, So this is like,
Speaker 1: this is like how like people interested in like extraterrestrials
Speaker 1: are like, for how vast the universe is, We're we're
Speaker 1: looking at a near impossibility that they're out and out there.
Speaker 1: You're saying for the amount of dead motherfucker's that are
Speaker 1: out there, you're saying, there's not one. There's not a
Speaker 1: couple of ghosts, there's not somebody hanging around. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, went in doubt, just throw numbers at it.
Speaker 1: The mathematical proof for the ghosts do you have, or
Speaker 1: what's the freakiest story or what's the freakies experience you've
Speaker 1: had through your ghosts encountering. So I I just love
Speaker 1: listening to ghost stories. I have not been you know
Speaker 1: how people say they're like old souls. I'm a new soul.
Speaker 1: I'm here for the first time for sure. I am
Speaker 1: so dumb about everything and I have no instincts um
Speaker 1: And that's why I love other people's ghost stories, you know.
Speaker 1: But I did, like batch record a bunch of ghost
Speaker 1: story podcast a couple of years ago. And then weird
Speaker 1: stuff started happening in my apartment where I live with
Speaker 1: my husband, and he was like, we both at different
Speaker 1: times thought the other person got into bed, and the
Speaker 1: other person was in a different room, so we both
Speaker 1: felt somebody get into bed. And then like he's got
Speaker 1: a million hats, and one of his hats was just
Speaker 1: like in the middle of the room on the floor,
Speaker 1: and it had been like under a big pile. Anyway,
Speaker 1: not that exciting, but we were terrified and saged the apartment.
Speaker 1: We got real drunk. Then we staged. We opened all
Speaker 1: the doors and all the windows, which there are not
Speaker 1: that many of, and we told the ghosts. We invited
Speaker 1: the ghosts to please leave, and then we never had
Speaker 1: a problem after that. Yeah ship, Okay, well then bust
Speaker 1: them up. Bust those ghosts. That is a thick skinned ghost.
Speaker 1: I feel like being invited to leave is pretty It's
Speaker 1: pretty clear what's going on there. They're like the funk
Speaker 1: out here. I mean, I mean, we invite you seriously,
Speaker 1: We're inviting you to leave. Now you're supposed to be
Speaker 1: nice to them, would you r s V P. Yes,
Speaker 1: that you are leaving? And this is where I'm this
Speaker 1: is where we diverge because I'm not here for hand
Speaker 1: holding the ghosts. You know, we've been handling them for
Speaker 1: with kid gloves for too long. We need to take
Speaker 1: a hard line with these ghosts and get the funk
Speaker 1: on out of here. Time. Keep not knowing why the
Speaker 1: dishwasher just turned on suddenly. Okay, bragging that is that
Speaker 1: is kind of a flex especially. I meant me in
Speaker 1: New York first one, first time having a dishwasher. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk about it just like remember Jack when
Speaker 1: I got the refrigerator that had ice in the door.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. These are the these are
Speaker 1: the steps we take. There's many a moment towards God's love. Yes,
Speaker 1: all right, Emily, we are going to get to know
Speaker 1: you a little bit better in a moment. First, a
Speaker 1: couple of things we're talking about. We're gonna ask the
Speaker 1: question whether Newsome's kind of landslide victory and the not
Speaker 1: getting fired election is a sign of things to come,
Speaker 1: how encouraged people should be. We're gonna talk about the
Speaker 1: FBI completely failing the greatest u S gymnasts of all time.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about the upcoming political prisoner rally that is,
Speaker 1: for some reason, trying to remain a political I don't
Speaker 1: quite understand that. We're gonna talk about the new wave
Speaker 1: for the unvaccinated, ak the pure bloods that is fucking terrifying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and of course we will promise too and probably not
Speaker 1: get to a story about Grimace. All that plenty more.
Speaker 1: But first, Emily, we like to ask our guests, what
Speaker 1: is something from your search history? Something from my search
Speaker 1: history is so embarrassing, but I have been saying. I've
Speaker 1: been talking about poppers on stage, and I realized I
Speaker 1: didn't know what pappers were. So I was like, I
Speaker 1: need to like know what I'm saying, you know, just
Speaker 1: as like I don't know a courtesy to the audience,
Speaker 1: because I've been talking about Lexi pro as my poppers,
Speaker 1: and now I realized that's not even they don't even
Speaker 1: that doesn't make sense because poppers are not little tiny
Speaker 1: pills that you pop like, you know. I didn't know
Speaker 1: how people because I'm a little nerd, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know people to look up poppers and where to
Speaker 1: get them and how to get them and give him
Speaker 1: a try right now I try. Now, I know you
Speaker 1: could get the medical dagga or something. Um. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: thought that's why they were called poppers. And then I
Speaker 1: had a bag full of poppers that the movie is
Speaker 1: the other night, and it was great. Yeah, wow, wow wow.
Speaker 1: To clarify, because I feel like I only just learned
Speaker 1: what poppers are. There's something you like inhale, right, and
Speaker 1: they get high and also losing your muscles, including your
Speaker 1: butt hole. Yeah. Wait, did you have a moment where
Speaker 1: someone's like, do you know what poppers? Are I always
Speaker 1: do this? Do you guys? Did you do this? And
Speaker 1: I start talking about something for a while, and then
Speaker 1: I realized I don't know what the hell I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: And then I'm like, oh, I should google that for sure.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know we do. It's called this podcast.
Speaker 1: You are listening to it? He stopped me. Nobody told me, Emily,
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? They were just like, let
Speaker 1: her carry on, she will figure it out eventually. Or
Speaker 1: did they just think, wait, I'm sorry, how are you
Speaker 1: using it in context? Again? I'm trying to even see
Speaker 1: if someone could lee. So yeah, I was talking about
Speaker 1: like depression on stage about you know, like I'm susing
Speaker 1: old depression four times a year. Then and then like
Speaker 1: I don't like pro. I'm you know, LEXI pro, I take,
Speaker 1: I do poppers. I call alexipro or something like that, Right,
Speaker 1: I just didn't scratching though, You're like, yeah, interesting relationship
Speaker 1: with her, yeah, or like it's a metaphorical relaxation of
Speaker 1: this thinker. There are so many people who went home
Speaker 1: after one of your stand up sets and tried anal
Speaker 1: on lexa pro and you knowesting experiences. Oh I hope
Speaker 1: they mean, that's really bad because if you start lexapro,
Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, this is gross if you're going
Speaker 1: to poop a lot. Didn't even talking about poppers, Emily,
Speaker 1: what is something you think is overrated? Overrated? Autumn seasonal vegetables?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I had a deconstructed burrito with sweet
Speaker 1: potatoes in it the other day and I found it
Speaker 1: extremely offensive. Yeah, I hate that. I feel like they're
Speaker 1: more expensive. They're on menus and you know you're going
Speaker 1: to have to have this do zucchini steak and you're like, no, no,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't want any of these vegetables and
Speaker 1: I don't want to pay higher prices for them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this season of mushy ass vegetables right squashed and it fucked.
Speaker 1: Oh stay loud, you know what I mean. Let them
Speaker 1: know they can get falked to corn. Emily. H Wait,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm more worried about you said you had a deconstructed,
Speaker 1: deconstructed breakfast or burrito. Said it was a deconstructed burrito,
Speaker 1: which means a way of being charged more for a
Speaker 1: burrito bowl is fucking Vine went to hear those words,
Speaker 1: but doing like deconstructed burrito, you fucking colonize every more.
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? What is this? Who is this?
Speaker 1: Why is this? It was so miserable. I had no
Speaker 1: idea there was going to be sweet potato in it.
Speaker 1: I ate it. I was so sad for the rest. Wait,
Speaker 1: they you're saying it was a burrito bowl rather than
Speaker 1: like a high minded way like if you went to
Speaker 1: some fancy restaurant. They're like, and this bit of corn
Speaker 1: represents the tortilla and this, and it's a deconstructed They're
Speaker 1: just being like burrito bowl, but we call it deconstructed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: basically lazy. Like literally they deconstructed by unwrapping a bristo
Speaker 1: is dumped. It literally was a deconstructed burrito and then
Speaker 1: they threw Yeah, they threw away the shell, the casing.
Speaker 1: It's kind of deconstructed burrito if there's no tortilla representation, right, No,
Speaker 1: unless you're eating it out of a bread bowl or something.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're big. We're big on deconstructed like main
Speaker 1: courses and you know, aside from being the arbiters of
Speaker 1: what should be de extinct. Jack also chimes in on
Speaker 1: these kinds of modern food trends, but usually has everything represented.
Speaker 1: My favorite deconstructed meal was the deconstructed pizza as presented
Speaker 1: by Lunchables. That was that was among the best. I agree,
Speaker 1: though a vegetable medley of autumn vegetables is usually not
Speaker 1: not good. It's it's usually too slimy and mushy. And
Speaker 1: I am team fox Squash along with I'm just thinking, okay,
Speaker 1: so it's Brussels sprouts, carrots, cabbage, pumpkin, although not talking
Speaker 1: to the quable acorn squash, potatoes, sweet potatoes, yams, zucchini, zucchini. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's more the squash family, the and the pumpkin like
Speaker 1: kind of mushy like I like a good you know,
Speaker 1: squash soup or like that. I'm good with it when
Speaker 1: it's like blended up liquefied, but just the consistency does
Speaker 1: always make me feel like I have to just you know,
Speaker 1: battle my gag reflex when I'm I'm saying it, I'm
Speaker 1: a fan, you're a squash head. Yeah, I don't mind
Speaker 1: squashed at all, like when it's done like roasted, even
Speaker 1: like little cubes like diced up. But I'm not paying
Speaker 1: oh I'm not paying over for it. Still, I still
Speaker 1: know what a squash is worth these days. What is
Speaker 1: something you think is underrated? Emily, Okay, underrated. I don't
Speaker 1: know what's happening out there in California, but I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say underrated lawn sports. Because we all had to. We
Speaker 1: all got to stop right stop being outside all the
Speaker 1: time when we thought COVID was over for one second,
Speaker 1: and I swore that I would never sit on a
Speaker 1: blanket and drink a white claw and talk to my
Speaker 1: friends ever again, because I was so bored of that
Speaker 1: I could never do it again. And now we're all
Speaker 1: back to the parks, hanging out at parks, and I
Speaker 1: can't do it. And I have discovered all these lawn
Speaker 1: sports and they are a way of escaping myself. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, why is everyone in Central Park, in Prospect Park,
Speaker 1: in mccaren Park not playing these games? Why are you
Speaker 1: all still sitting on blankets? There's so much you could do.
Speaker 1: There's you got spike ball, you got classics like Botti ball.
Speaker 1: There's a new one called cross net that's so fun,
Speaker 1: and they are just making me, I don't know, be
Speaker 1: happy for like cross net. Cross Net is like four
Speaker 1: four square volleyball, So you don't have to be good
Speaker 1: at volleyball to play just mildly athletic. But yeah, so
Speaker 1: it's just teeny tiny and you and you actually get
Speaker 1: a good workout and then like you hit a friend
Speaker 1: in the head and then you laugh about it and
Speaker 1: you're not just sitting on a blanket drinking white claw,
Speaker 1: drinking white cloth. Oh okay, yeah, I'm seeing it now.
Speaker 1: It's great. Yeah, that's really fun spike ball. I like,
Speaker 1: I'll play little spike ball. It's awesome. My my husband's
Speaker 1: in a spike ball league and I had to play
Speaker 1: the other day because his partner couldn't play, and uh
Speaker 1: oh boy, got my butt kicked. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: strategy that goes into that, but it's very fun. If
Speaker 1: you see clips of Like whenever I see competitive spike ball,
Speaker 1: I'm like, come on, now, I'm not gonna do all that.
Speaker 1: But also I'm like amazed at just how the game
Speaker 1: has played at that level. For sure, dude, spike ball
Speaker 1: has been around since I think like something early nineties
Speaker 1: and real early nineties vibes, but the guy that invented
Speaker 1: it never patented it. So a guy that's like our
Speaker 1: age was like, wait a second, I've got this. When
Speaker 1: I was a kid, no one ever patented it. Now
Speaker 1: he's like a zillionaire and uh yeah, very smart thing
Speaker 1: to do, and he like reads in two thousand seven,
Speaker 1: he like reignited the spike ball trend and is now
Speaker 1: CEO of spike Ball American stories like this sucker didn't
Speaker 1: protect his I p now it's mine. You know, I
Speaker 1: didn't think of it that way because he's from Chicago
Speaker 1: and I'm from Chicago, and I'm like, good job, good
Speaker 1: job getting yours. But you know you're not wrong. Is
Speaker 1: the original inventor like out here just like talking about
Speaker 1: it like destitute. He's like, they took everything from me.
Speaker 1: I just invented a game for all to have fun with,
Speaker 1: very just things he had lying around the house and
Speaker 1: now nothing. I didn't think about that either. I love
Speaker 1: this happy straight white man finally got his you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. I know it's about time in that
Speaker 1: column for once, speaking of straight white men. Do you
Speaker 1: funk with cornhole? Is that in your Yes? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the Midwestern thing too, bigs cornhole. Yeah, I'll funk
Speaker 1: with some cornhole. I love it. I'm no, I haven't really.
Speaker 1: What's the one where you throw rope with a little
Speaker 1: like yeah, I think yea ladder ball oh oh right,
Speaker 1: right right where you just throw like the little bolo
Speaker 1: things and get them on the little rungs. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a good one. For a second, what are we talking?
Speaker 1: What long game do I not know about? Now? Do
Speaker 1: you guys play a lot of lawn games? Is that
Speaker 1: a thing? I was just in l a in Griffith
Speaker 1: Park and no one was playing lawn games. I pleas
Speaker 1: played get off my lawn games, like being very hostile
Speaker 1: to anyone who walks in front of your house. No,
Speaker 1: I mean I have in my friend group like people
Speaker 1: will bring out the ladder ball stuff or bring out
Speaker 1: like some version, but not all the time. But I
Speaker 1: think it varies from group to group. I'll say that
Speaker 1: like all my local like Angelino friends who we all
Speaker 1: grew up here, we don't. We don't bring out the
Speaker 1: long games. It's the transplants who have parties who bring
Speaker 1: out the long games. Okay, that's where I encounter him.
Speaker 1: That's your nice way of saying, you're you're such a nerd.
Speaker 1: I'm only which no, not at all, meaning like I'm
Speaker 1: just too cynical, Like I'm like nothing brings you fucking
Speaker 1: long game. And then I'm like, oh right, cool that
Speaker 1: I do like big Jengage played most of these games sober,
Speaker 1: and now I am I've haven't drank in six years.
Speaker 1: I think I might want to try these and see
Speaker 1: like what they're like not completely wasted. I think you'd
Speaker 1: love spike ball, Yeah, spike ball seems like I don't
Speaker 1: think I ever played spike ball. Oh you'd love it.
Speaker 1: It cannot guarantee that you can start getting strategic on
Speaker 1: that ship with how you spike it, and you know,
Speaker 1: it's like it's it's how you spike it. Spike a
Speaker 1: little little tapper, you know what I mean, make them
Speaker 1: really dig it out. Who I actually didn't know what
Speaker 1: spike ball was and I saw it on the beach
Speaker 1: at the Jersey Shore and I made a mental note,
Speaker 1: I should find out what that is. That looks super fun,
Speaker 1: So thank you here were It's pretty easy to set up. Also,
Speaker 1: can jam we got? I know, we got, we gotta
Speaker 1: can jam? I feel like we gotta say it before
Speaker 1: we okay, because that's a good one. That's I feel
Speaker 1: like that now that is a new classic. I don't
Speaker 1: know what can jam is? Oh, boy, I mean other
Speaker 1: than a Candida, I'm not good at frisbee like disc
Speaker 1: space sports, so I've I get a little frustrated when
Speaker 1: I play, but it's it's it's fun. Mm hmm. So
Speaker 1: you're oh, okay, okay, you gotta get a frisbee into
Speaker 1: a can and I have a friend to help you.
Speaker 1: The sign of a good uh long sport is you
Speaker 1: look at a picture of it and you immediately get
Speaker 1: it and immediately under damn, why would be fun? And
Speaker 1: can jam gets crossed? Win wins that battle. For me,
Speaker 1: it's all about alien a frisbee jack. Yeah, exactly. You
Speaker 1: know that's fun, that's so fun. Alright, let's take a
Speaker 1: quick break. I'm gonna go try all those sports and
Speaker 1: we'll be right back. And we're back and as promised,
Speaker 1: I guess, as advertised by Larry Elder, the Republican front
Speaker 1: runner himself, Gavin Newsome just smoked the competition when it
Speaker 1: came to the recall the exit polling was I don't
Speaker 1: know that. There's a handful of articles now that the
Speaker 1: like exit polling and all that stuff is in that suggests, well,
Speaker 1: this is the this is what the Democrats are going
Speaker 1: to do. In the mid terms and like the Republicans
Speaker 1: are fucked. I don't know. I found a vaguely reassuring that, like,
Speaker 1: so one of the big ways that they got the
Speaker 1: one point five million signatures to like do the recall
Speaker 1: in the first place was by like getting people who
Speaker 1: are riled up about the vaccine mandates, but the vaccine
Speaker 1: mandates were actually a winner, freag Gavin Newsom. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know if that was like the a change of
Speaker 1: direction for the population of California, or if it was
Speaker 1: just that, like it was allowed minority of the population
Speaker 1: that was like really driving the recall, but not enough
Speaker 1: of them to actually win an election. No, I mean
Speaker 1: people they turned out for bigger numbers to basically vote
Speaker 1: against relaxing COVID restrictions than they didn't even vote for Newsome,
Speaker 1: like when he was first running as governor. And I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: the we talked about how sort of the strategy with
Speaker 1: Newsom was merely just gesturing to the other candidates and
Speaker 1: saying or them, I don't know, up to you, this
Speaker 1: guy says a lot of stuff that isn't true. But
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? It's it's hard to say,
Speaker 1: like how how much this will be deployed and how
Speaker 1: effective it is. Clearly in places like California, like it's
Speaker 1: very clear where most of the people who live here
Speaker 1: how they feel about ending the pandemic and how we
Speaker 1: get there. I'm curious to see how it works in
Speaker 1: other places. I mean, granted, this is sort of part
Speaker 1: of Biden's overall scheme or plan that where he's mandated vaccines.
Speaker 1: The GOP got real mad, but when you look at
Speaker 1: the polling, a majority of people aren't aren't upset by it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So it's like I get it, like this definitely if
Speaker 1: as a binary in a in a lection, we're saying,
Speaker 1: do you want to keep us safe or do you
Speaker 1: want someone who saying we're going to take the breaks
Speaker 1: off and fucking rewind to in that In that instance,
Speaker 1: it's very clear. But I think it all depends on
Speaker 1: how important the vaccine is depending on the voter, or
Speaker 1: the pandemic is depending on the geography too, right, I mean, yes,
Speaker 1: Trump carried a surprising percentage and sheer volume of the
Speaker 1: votes in the election that I think horrified everybody. I also,
Speaker 1: I don't know that it seems like I'm what I
Speaker 1: am wondering if the anti vax or stuff and the
Speaker 1: January six insurrection, I mean, those are not popular things,
Speaker 1: like people are not like on board with that. So
Speaker 1: the fact that those are kind of the biggest things
Speaker 1: that have happened and been associated with the Republican Party
Speaker 1: since that election, maybe maybe that will hurt them. I
Speaker 1: mean it's I am slightly more hopeful than I was
Speaker 1: yesterday that that will hurt them and that people are like, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: that is we saw those you know, school committee PTA
Speaker 1: meetings and they were terrified. You know. Yeah. I just think,
Speaker 1: you know, uh, the strategy of saying, well, what about
Speaker 1: this guy doesn't make me that confident like in the
Speaker 1: person running, you know, And I get that as a
Speaker 1: strategy that works, but you I'd also hope to see
Speaker 1: the kinds of candidates are a way of campaigning where
Speaker 1: you're actually trying I don't know, I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: even know why I'm saying this, because they campaign on
Speaker 1: so much ship that they don't deliver, but actually trying
Speaker 1: to create results to motivate people, like how about you
Speaker 1: actually deliver safe abortion access or you know, the safeguards
Speaker 1: against voter suppression, changing child care and things like that,
Speaker 1: like do that and gesture to that, because if you
Speaker 1: just it allows them to be even fucking lazier and
Speaker 1: not have to move anything forward and just say, well
Speaker 1: you can okay, what do you want this guy? Right? Okay,
Speaker 1: and then there's no there's no action. Yeah, but you know, people,
Speaker 1: it's it's everyone is already writing their articles. This is
Speaker 1: this is where it's gonna go. Do you think it
Speaker 1: got to this point with Newsom because just because it didn't, like,
Speaker 1: because the pandemic didn't end. I mean, it's just so
Speaker 1: weird to me. I mean obviously no, no no, no, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of Republicans in California. But it's just so
Speaker 1: weird to me as a New Yorker for us to
Speaker 1: like have gone through all of this with Cuomo and
Speaker 1: for it to mostly work. Like New York City is
Speaker 1: a very safe place to be considering everything right now,
Speaker 1: and now we all hate Cuomo, but like for different reasons.
Speaker 1: But like if I mean, I don't know, if his strict,
Speaker 1: stricter ideas and like mandates had worked, this wouldn't have happened, right,
Speaker 1: It's yeah, I'm well, the difference is like to get
Speaker 1: a recall in California is really what it boils down to.
Speaker 1: You just need a million and a half signatures or
Speaker 1: I think it's like roughly eight percent of the electorate,
Speaker 1: and then you can trigger a recall, in which case
Speaker 1: if the if the incumbent doesn't reach any fucking sloppy
Speaker 1: candidate who just has a plurality after that can instantly
Speaker 1: be the governor. So it's a very like indirect or
Speaker 1: direct way to sort of like short circuit the system
Speaker 1: in California to try and yeah exactly, to try and
Speaker 1: funk around and chain something by just playing very small
Speaker 1: margins to try and get what they want. And I
Speaker 1: think a lot of it is also this was a
Speaker 1: way for many Republicans who, you know, especially after Biden
Speaker 1: was elected, who were like, I can't believe I live
Speaker 1: in Camifornia. Look at what they're doing. Like this gave
Speaker 1: them somebody to really get behind and be motivated against.
Speaker 1: But even then it wasn't reaching outside of you know,
Speaker 1: that typical group of people to you know, deliver over
Speaker 1: fifty you know, of the vote. But it did sort
Speaker 1: of bond like far right and then like that sort
Speaker 1: of I don't know, I just like to eat grass
Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna you know, like it's weird how
Speaker 1: it becomes circular and like yeah, like it's it's not
Speaker 1: a line, it's not a straight political line. It like
Speaker 1: turns into a circle. And like these like hippies are
Speaker 1: like hanging out with these like hard and I'm like, wait, wait,
Speaker 1: where how do you guys become friends all of those
Speaker 1: like anti lockdown, anti vaccine rallies I've seen in California
Speaker 1: or like New York. I'm always like pausing the frame
Speaker 1: and I'm going like, wow, are all of these people
Speaker 1: standing shouldered shoulder right now? I'm like, I guess one
Speaker 1: thing is more important than everything else they talk about.
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about the FBI continuing to just
Speaker 1: funk everything up and be terrible at their job. Smone Biles,
Speaker 1: Mikayla Moroney, Maggie Nichols, and Ali Riceman testify in front
Speaker 1: of the Senate Judiciary Committee to give their account of
Speaker 1: how just awful the FBI's investigation into Larry Nasser was.
Speaker 1: And it's really I mean, there was a report over
Speaker 1: the summer that kind of highlighted a bunch of this stuff,
Speaker 1: but it was really necessary and like brave of them
Speaker 1: to actually put themselves out there, because I think it
Speaker 1: highlighted it for a lot of people who probably didn't
Speaker 1: read the whole report, just how completely the FBI had
Speaker 1: fucking bungled this thing. Yeah, I mean, at first it
Speaker 1: was just sort of like they did a terrible job,
Speaker 1: and I saw some of the headlines, but again, their
Speaker 1: testimony today was so if you even if you didn't
Speaker 1: read it, just to hear people who are describing their
Speaker 1: pain and trauma and just trying to pursue like some
Speaker 1: kind of legal just like justice for what it occurred
Speaker 1: to them. And then the lack of action from the
Speaker 1: FBI was like really everybody like it seemed that was
Speaker 1: in the Senate Chamber for that was just like just
Speaker 1: kind of felt, you know. MICHAELA. Moroney has talked about
Speaker 1: how she spoke with an FBI agent about her experience
Speaker 1: and was like just so distraught through the whole thing,
Speaker 1: and then like at the end of the conversation the
Speaker 1: agent was like, so that's it, and she was like,
Speaker 1: I just described really vivid abuse to you, and I'm
Speaker 1: like very emotional about it. And then on top of that,
Speaker 1: the agent didn't follow up properly, follow up based on
Speaker 1: that interview and then drafted like a summary of the
Speaker 1: interview that had just things she didn't say in it
Speaker 1: at all, like falsified this report. Well, he didn't even
Speaker 1: draft it until basically years later at least Cat got
Speaker 1: caught ignoring the ship out of this and then he
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, so here's my report on that interview.
Speaker 1: And he was doing doing it after the fact, basically
Speaker 1: making shut up. Yeah, and throughout this, you know, the
Speaker 1: o i G. The Office of Inspector General report talks
Speaker 1: about many other things too. Just how even despite that
Speaker 1: Larry Nasser was free and was able to continue his
Speaker 1: just abusive behavior even though they were they spoke to
Speaker 1: many people who are just ringing this alarm, and yet
Speaker 1: they did nothing. They even said that they were like
Speaker 1: there was an agent who led the Indianapolis Field Office
Speaker 1: lied to the Justice Department Inspector General it quote in
Speaker 1: an effort to minimize or excuse his errors. So you know,
Speaker 1: this is just like a very very sad, you know,
Speaker 1: sadly very normal case where people are trying to seek
Speaker 1: justice in when as it relates to like allegations of
Speaker 1: sexual abuse, and law enforcement is just like unable to
Speaker 1: do it or in this instance, just completely does nothing
Speaker 1: at all to remedy the situation. And you know, all
Speaker 1: the athletes that were there, they said, look like the
Speaker 1: FBI failed. Also, Safe Sport is a total failure. Like
Speaker 1: this organization that is supposed to investigate these kinds of
Speaker 1: allegations couldn't protect us either. And when I, you know,
Speaker 1: raised an issue, a lawyer for the Wes Gymnastics Association
Speaker 1: like followed up with me. That was the first call
Speaker 1: I got was from a lawyer, and they're just saying
Speaker 1: the way everything is set up is completely antithetical to
Speaker 1: any idea that it's going to protect people who have
Speaker 1: allegations or need to be protected from abusive coaches and
Speaker 1: you know organizations in general. It's very yeah, very FBI
Speaker 1: kind of moment, especially when you see like how the
Speaker 1: d o J is not going to prosecute the agents
Speaker 1: when we've seen time and again that people go to
Speaker 1: prison for lying to the FBI or lying to law
Speaker 1: enforcement or making false statements. These people did that, and
Speaker 1: the Department of Justice is stance is like, we're not
Speaker 1: going to be pursuing that, right, It's not it doesn't
Speaker 1: count of lying to themselves. Right, But so what's different here,
Speaker 1: you know, and like that's where again we just look
Speaker 1: at this fucking very inconsistent application of the law and
Speaker 1: in this case, this is this is it seems like
Speaker 1: such an egregious transgression and error, not even error, but
Speaker 1: just action from these agents that to do nothing about
Speaker 1: it is I think shows again how we will continue
Speaker 1: to fail people like this if we're not going to
Speaker 1: take things seriously enough to you know, reprimand people who
Speaker 1: are involved with you know, obscuring the facts. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: super frustrating. Basically every thing you read about the FBI
Speaker 1: is a complete nightmare. It's a it's a complete just
Speaker 1: farce and has been since they were surveilling Martin Luther
Speaker 1: King Jr. And telling him to kill himself. It's it's
Speaker 1: a shitty organization that probably shouldn't exist. I'm curious to
Speaker 1: see what comes of this. You know, a lot of
Speaker 1: the senators said good things after they made their statements, saying,
Speaker 1: you know, like we get that you're not here for
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you're here for action, You're here for justice,
Speaker 1: and we will we will hopefully get answers from you know,
Speaker 1: Chris Ray and other people at the FBI, But I
Speaker 1: I you'd hope that there is some on some level,
Speaker 1: you know, when you're looking at especially when other athletes
Speaker 1: are raising the question at what other levels is happening?
Speaker 1: Not just at the most elite level, like you can't
Speaker 1: this this, we can't just treat this thing as something
Speaker 1: in a vacuum. But then it was just sort of
Speaker 1: disheartening too. And you have like Chuck grass Lee and
Speaker 1: like Dick Durban or just like these older guys like
Speaker 1: kind of listening to things like oh yeah, you could
Speaker 1: just tell that they weren't really equipped to respond to
Speaker 1: those statements a lot of like a few of the
Speaker 1: other senators were. But on some level, there's like this
Speaker 1: old guy kind of dealing with a like toxic elements
Speaker 1: of patriarchy or just sort of like I didn't know
Speaker 1: what to say. That's too bad, Oh that doesn't and
Speaker 1: that's too bad for that those poor girls. Okay, well
Speaker 1: what do we have? It felt like that. I'm just
Speaker 1: sort of like, thank you so much. Oh that's that's awful.
Speaker 1: I have a question, did they Would it have been
Speaker 1: better if a female FBI agent asked you that? And
Speaker 1: people like oh Jesus Christ, I just think, it's it's
Speaker 1: it's it's insane that we're also like asking some of
Speaker 1: these women, like someone Biles, to keep competing while they
Speaker 1: have to con insistently relive this trauma um. And then
Speaker 1: we're like, as an American public, furious at her for
Speaker 1: not going finishing the Olympics. Like she's got enough on
Speaker 1: her plate right now, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: she's doing more important work arguably, Yeah, I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: And I think And she even said too, you know,
Speaker 1: when she was giving her statement, she's like, you couldn't
Speaker 1: even believe what it's like. Where we tell the FBI
Speaker 1: things for years ago, it continues we hear other other
Speaker 1: teammates say that now they've been abused, even though we
Speaker 1: tried to speak up to end it and then to
Speaker 1: like go back into the context of like competing for
Speaker 1: the US and going to the Olympics, and like Simone,
Speaker 1: but I was saying, like, I'm it's difficult for me,
Speaker 1: like what I've been through and to not have the
Speaker 1: support of my family as I normally would going to
Speaker 1: an Olympics just I just couldn't do it. And you know,
Speaker 1: she was saying, like we the people up there need
Speaker 1: to ask themselves, like what is a little girl worth?
Speaker 1: You know, because if the abuse stands like, we're sending
Speaker 1: a message that it's not much at all. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think everyone that's yelling at Simone Vials on Twitter should
Speaker 1: have to record themselves trying to do a KRT wheel
Speaker 1: And that's what I want to say. I mean I
Speaker 1: would do so. Yeah, I'm curious to see because like
Speaker 1: I felt like with some of the Republicans, I know
Speaker 1: a lot of people, especially Republican politicians, were had some
Speaker 1: real fucking lame attacks on Simone Vials for not competing
Speaker 1: in the Olympics, And I like part of me when
Speaker 1: I was watching, like how many of these senators were
Speaker 1: like made any comments? But I was like, it's hard
Speaker 1: to know at this point. Right, all right, let's talk
Speaker 1: about an event that I'm sure all three of us
Speaker 1: will be attending, uh, the upcoming September eighteenth rally, uh
Speaker 1: that scheduled to happen in d C. Where people will
Speaker 1: come together to you know, rally around what they're calling
Speaker 1: the political prisoners, the people who attacked the capital on
Speaker 1: January six, and we're you know, chanting to kill, kill
Speaker 1: the vice president, hang the vice president, they are have
Speaker 1: been given light slaps on the wrist, and that is
Speaker 1: a position that they, you know, the people who are
Speaker 1: rallying think is on par with Nelson Mandela and the
Speaker 1: Archetid state. They're all Nelson Mandela's free. The Nelson Mandela's
Speaker 1: of January six, I think is the merch that they've
Speaker 1: made Um because there's there's just such political prisoners. They're
Speaker 1: not people who booked the lawn. We're just in facing
Speaker 1: you know what happens when you do that. But Matt
Speaker 1: Branyard is this former Trum campaign operative and it is
Speaker 1: like currently the one sort of trying to organize this
Speaker 1: September eighteenth rally, and it's this weird He tweeted this
Speaker 1: weird thing out where like a lot of people were like,
Speaker 1: what does he what does he mean by this? Matt
Speaker 1: bran Yeah, he tweeted quote, we recrectly request that anybody
Speaker 1: attending our events not wear any clothing or have signs
Speaker 1: supportive of either President Trump or Biden. Anyone not honoring
Speaker 1: this request will be assumed to be an infiltrator, and
Speaker 1: we will take your picture, find out who you are,
Speaker 1: and make you famous. This event is about hashtag justice
Speaker 1: for J six and not the election or any candidate. No,
Speaker 1: I mean I get it in a very broad sense,
Speaker 1: which is remember they tried to say that these people
Speaker 1: were Antifa and BLM infiltrators, that's who was doing the violence.
Speaker 1: And because everyone was emblazoned with Trump ship, it was
Speaker 1: just so hard for that to people Like, what are
Speaker 1: you talking like, and all of these people's, all of
Speaker 1: their communications, any research you're doing to these people, You're like,
Speaker 1: it's clear to anyone they're not actors. Their their Trump
Speaker 1: supporters who showed up to do this. Yeah, Unfortunately for y'all,
Speaker 1: they have social media accounts that are like they give
Speaker 1: us a beat by beat like accounting of how they
Speaker 1: were radicalized, when they were radicalized. So yeah, it's complete
Speaker 1: nutter bullshit. I don't like It's it almost seems like
Speaker 1: they're trying to claim that as their own, like that
Speaker 1: they will track people down, and I don't know, it's
Speaker 1: a it's a very like, well, we'll do the thing
Speaker 1: that you did to us to ourselves, if you like.
Speaker 1: I'm very confused by this unless he is doing this
Speaker 1: on behalf of the Trump camp, because the Trump camp
Speaker 1: doesn't want to be associated with this because he is
Speaker 1: planning around but just like zoom out right, if it's like,
Speaker 1: if they're saying this is just about justice for the
Speaker 1: j six or for January six? What was January six
Speaker 1: about the fact that you didn't accept the election results
Speaker 1: and you went to overturn them. So how could this
Speaker 1: not be about that? It's yeah, it's utterly confusing. It
Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense. I'm just trying to even figure
Speaker 1: out what they think. They think. It's just they feel
Speaker 1: that it will be optically better for them if when
Speaker 1: this rally happens, they don't have pictures of people wearing
Speaker 1: all of their political allegiances on them, so then they
Speaker 1: can misrepresent what was happening there. Got it hilarious that
Speaker 1: he said Biden shirts, come on, you know justice, it
Speaker 1: appeals to all you know, not left or right. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm also curious about. Like, I mean, maybe
Speaker 1: they'll be counter protesters, probably, but I don't understand. Sure,
Speaker 1: don't wear the shirts and then you can lie more
Speaker 1: about what happened. But I also have a very hard
Speaker 1: time thinking that someone who's motivated enough to go to
Speaker 1: d C again too, like protest, this has any other
Speaker 1: clothes to wear at this point except for Trump clothing, right, yeah, right, exactly,
Speaker 1: So we'll we'll see. But I mean, as of now,
Speaker 1: I think the Homeland Security they suspect about seven hundred
Speaker 1: people will be there. That's their estimate. It could be more.
Speaker 1: But they're like, but a lot of the same right
Speaker 1: wing actors will be there and not actors and that
Speaker 1: they're faking but participants. Yeah, crisis actors. We get it, Miles,
Speaker 1: we know what you're saying. Hired by Soros, we know,
Speaker 1: we got it. All right, let's take a quick break
Speaker 1: and we'll be right back. And we're back. And the
Speaker 1: anti vax team anti vax is having a identity crisis
Speaker 1: slash pr shift, you know, a pivot there, pivoting. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think there's too many headlines where it's like anti
Speaker 1: vax personality passes away like this. There's like a recently
Speaker 1: a prominent guy in Colorado just passed away who like
Speaker 1: called himself like doctor anti vax or something. He recently
Speaker 1: passed away from COVID. And yeah, they're just in a
Speaker 1: constant identity crisis because they're they're not sheep. Okay, they're
Speaker 1: free people. We're not we're unafraid. We're people that do
Speaker 1: our own research. But they definitely don't seem to like
Speaker 1: the label anti vax or. In some way. You're starting
Speaker 1: to see more content where people are trying to like
Speaker 1: reclaim it to be something more than an accurate description
Speaker 1: of their beliefs, and which leads a lot of people
Speaker 1: to be angry because of the preventable death that is
Speaker 1: occurring as a result of people refusing to get vaccinated.
Speaker 1: But yeah, they've got a new angle, they've got a
Speaker 1: new attitude, I guess, is what you'd say. And I
Speaker 1: just want to share that with all of that with
Speaker 1: everyone here. This is kind of the new way that
Speaker 1: they're doing and they're doing it very dramatically. I'm just
Speaker 1: sitting here and I'm thinking, from now on, I refuse
Speaker 1: to be referred to as unvaccinated. I want everyone to
Speaker 1: now call me pure blood, a pure blood, call me
Speaker 1: a pure blood. Um okay, oh yeah, I'm sorry. Like
Speaker 1: feels very much. You bet in fast food one time
Speaker 1: in your life, you're not a pure blood. Like, there
Speaker 1: is no like. I'm like, if you've had mayonnaise, you're
Speaker 1: not a pure blood. Like. I can't don't tell them
Speaker 1: that I'll be known as a mayonnaise blood blood against
Speaker 1: the world. But yeah, this, I mean, that's just not
Speaker 1: weird at all. This identify as a pure blood. And look,
Speaker 1: whether you're more Hogwarts or Himmler, I guess it all
Speaker 1: depends on how you want to use that terminology to
Speaker 1: describe yourself. Yeah, I mean, yeah, associating with pure blood.
Speaker 1: And then there there's like one anti vaxer said in
Speaker 1: like five ten years maybe less, all the people who
Speaker 1: are unvaccinated, we're gonna be hunted. It's gonna be like
Speaker 1: resident evil. We're going to be the antidote because everyone
Speaker 1: else is fucked and we're going to be the only
Speaker 1: ones with pure blood, which really is you know, when
Speaker 1: you're combining like this is an existential threat based on
Speaker 1: the purity of our blood, that's genocide. Ship, That's like
Speaker 1: how genocides start. But well, I mean, I don't think
Speaker 1: they're seeing the nuance. And I think I honestly, I
Speaker 1: wonder how many these people like love Harry Potter, you know,
Speaker 1: because they have no content. I don't know how much
Speaker 1: context they have. As I've seen with a lot of
Speaker 1: like anti vax rhetoric, there's a lot of like they'll
Speaker 1: say things that drift into problematic historical context and then
Speaker 1: they don't understand why they just know like buzzwords and
Speaker 1: things like that. And this one feels just so millennial
Speaker 1: to me, like this is this doesn't happen, Like we're
Speaker 1: not saying this unless Harry Potter fucked up millions of
Speaker 1: people's minds. I don't know where else, Like it just
Speaker 1: feels it feels like an easy step for people. But
Speaker 1: again a little bit grim. You're describing yourself like that
Speaker 1: isn't pure blood, like what Draco malfoy and like the
Speaker 1: Bad Guys isn't that even like the Bad Guy's point
Speaker 1: of view? And I'm not familiar with all the lore,
Speaker 1: but I did see a lot of jokes about being like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is gonna get confused with a lot of Draco memes.
Speaker 1: So yeah, but oh so you're saying in there that
Speaker 1: just means bad. Well, no, it's a it's a value
Speaker 1: like for for the same reasons that it was associated
Speaker 1: with or like so popular with nazis like that there's
Speaker 1: a lot of like not see ideology like tied up
Speaker 1: in The Bad Guys and Harry Potter, so like they're right,
Speaker 1: Like the protagonist is I think they call her a
Speaker 1: half blood where she's like has a non wizard parent
Speaker 1: or something like that. So and like yeah, there there
Speaker 1: is stuff like mud blood and stuff like that that
Speaker 1: they call people who have human blood or human parentage.
Speaker 1: But like that's not good, that's not like so like
Speaker 1: if these are Harry Potter fans, like they're uh, they're
Speaker 1: missing the context or they're just like, yeah, we're a
Speaker 1: team the bad guy. We're team Baltimore. What about you?
Speaker 1: You Team Baltimore, Baltimore. I'm hufflepuff blood whatever that is.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm dirty blood over here. Listen, the
Speaker 1: dirtiest blood. I got the J and J vaccine before
Speaker 1: we knew that one was gonna clot me up. I'm
Speaker 1: just a giant walking clot around here. You see me
Speaker 1: in Brooklyn, You're like, what is that? Lady. That's a
Speaker 1: giant plot lady, that's it. Uh yeah, anyway, I don't
Speaker 1: know anymore Harry Potter words. I used to work for
Speaker 1: a teen blog and I was not on the Harry
Speaker 1: Potter beat. Souple is the only word I know. Quidditch
Speaker 1: had a great quidditch team. Remember it's the one weird
Speaker 1: thing was like, let's not talk about this in public everyone,
Speaker 1: But yeah, he played right, you had I've seen your
Speaker 1: varsity jacket for that. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, look, okay,
Speaker 1: look full disclosure. Yeah I was sucking it up, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I was pretty good, but I
Speaker 1: did it under a pseudonym cho Chang. Alright, So it's terrifying.
Speaker 1: The fake vaccine car business is booming, but we can
Speaker 1: talk about that on a later episode. What we need
Speaker 1: to talk about is how no one knows what the
Speaker 1: funk McDonald's grimace is supposed to be. You know, Emily,
Speaker 1: you just mentioned, uh, you know, a walking clot and
Speaker 1: I think the people people might think that that's as
Speaker 1: good a guess as anybody seems to have. But so
Speaker 1: it all started through a bath. Matt, he's kind of Harry, right,
Speaker 1: I gotta pull him up here for a second. I
Speaker 1: feel just like purple Google with the face. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: there was a CBC interview with a McDonald's manager and
Speaker 1: Windsor Ontario, who had been named Outstanding Manager of the Year,
Speaker 1: and that's he therefore became the subject of an interview
Speaker 1: with a major Canadian outlet because Canada is fucking adorable
Speaker 1: and anyway, at the end of the interview, the manager
Speaker 1: was asked what the deal was with Grimace. The other question, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because like the other McDonald land characters are pretty straightforward.
Speaker 1: Ronald is a clown. Mayor mccheese is a sentient burger guy.
Speaker 1: The Hamburglar is a thief who loves eatings, despite the
Speaker 1: fact that they clearly have the capacity for intelligence and
Speaker 1: interest in regional politics. But they were like, but Grimace, like,
Speaker 1: we've just never really been able to figure it out.
Speaker 1: And according to the manager, he is an enormous taste bud,
Speaker 1: which is fucking gross. How wait, how do we know?
Speaker 1: That's the gospel truth? So we're so people started looking
Speaker 1: into it. It is something that has been claimed quite
Speaker 1: a bit for a long time. In twelve, the McDonald's
Speaker 1: twitter accounts specifically stated that Grimace is not a taste bud,
Speaker 1: but the quote embodiment of a milkshake. I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: he kind of reminds me of like the last little
Speaker 1: like the little bit of soda that doesn't make it
Speaker 1: into the cup, you know, and it's just like syrupy
Speaker 1: soda drop. Yeah, syrup soda drop and that's why he's
Speaker 1: upset because he didn't get He didn't get in. But
Speaker 1: there's no purple milkshake at McDonald's and there's no purple
Speaker 1: soda available at McDonald's. Well, if he was brown, he
Speaker 1: would look like poop, right right, that's true. And if
Speaker 1: he was white, he would get dirty really fast. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he would look like they'd sue for like like he's
Speaker 1: a rip off michelin Man puff marshmallow guy. Oh believe
Speaker 1: me that. So it gets this is follow me down
Speaker 1: the rabbit hole, the Grimace rabbit hole. So our writer
Speaker 1: j M looked back into the history of Grimace. He
Speaker 1: actually began as a villain, introduced in UH nineteen seventy
Speaker 1: two as the Evil Grimace, a purple monster with four arms.
Speaker 1: He was basically the hamburglar, but he loves stealing beverages,
Speaker 1: including coke and milkshakes, and in commercials we'd see him
Speaker 1: like hoarding hundreds of cups of milkshakes and soda, and
Speaker 1: Ronald and his friends would have to use their wits
Speaker 1: to steal it back. Which why an adult clown and
Speaker 1: two small children need ten times their weight and coke
Speaker 1: was never addressed? Why why are they on trial. Man,
Speaker 1: I have a theory now that I just made up
Speaker 1: that there was a time that McDonald's thought that they
Speaker 1: could basically be like the next comic book superheroes. So
Speaker 1: they were like making narratives so that they could have
Speaker 1: cartoons and books. And so you're saying the original m
Speaker 1: c U, the McDonald's cinematic universe exactly is what they
Speaker 1: were trying to establish. Okay, interesting, It just sounds like
Speaker 1: they really were going for it with like stories of
Speaker 1: you know, now we've got two villains, like, yeah, what
Speaker 1: is that is that from a book? Jack? This like
Speaker 1: evil Grimace thing, Like this is when they were like, hey,
Speaker 1: like parents and doctor nate your kids with tales of
Speaker 1: Ronald and friends. It appears to be a print ad
Speaker 1: would be my guess which it is, like designed to
Speaker 1: look like a storybook. But Grimace has four arms and
Speaker 1: weird like legs, so it's basically like a six armed
Speaker 1: insect that is also blob shaped, and it's it's Ronald
Speaker 1: McDonald looking up in arms about having his milkshake stolen.
Speaker 1: So Grimmas made the switch from good to evil, and
Speaker 1: they cut off two of his arms in the process
Speaker 1: because he was and You're not gonna believe this when
Speaker 1: I when I tell you, because he was inadvertently scaring
Speaker 1: their child customers. Because how a giant like fat spider
Speaker 1: that steals your food? How's that like, Mr blood clot
Speaker 1: What if we do it with a Jamaican accent? Do
Speaker 1: you like him better? Now? Oh? They really hate this
Speaker 1: freaky four limbed creature, six limbed creature? Huh. And then
Speaker 1: there's the other reason for the redesign, which was that
Speaker 1: McDonald was sued over there McDonald land Gang, which resembled
Speaker 1: characters from the TV show HR Puffin Stuff, And I
Speaker 1: think McDonald's actually reached out to them and was like, hey,
Speaker 1: can we like license those characters and they were like no,
Speaker 1: And then McDonald's was like, Okay, we'll just copy it,
Speaker 1: and we're we have more lawyers than you yeaow. According
Speaker 1: to the laws to McDonald's not only approached creator Sid
Speaker 1: and Marty Croft about collaborating on a campaign that immediately
Speaker 1: scrapped it, they also recruited former hr puffin Stuff employees
Speaker 1: to help design McDonald Land so they lost that and
Speaker 1: had to pay them a bunch of money. But so
Speaker 1: Evil Grimace was based on a character called Seymour Spider,
Speaker 1: and they I think just removed the two extra arms
Speaker 1: to make him seem less, like a rip off of
Speaker 1: the horrifying Spider. I just love that, like little tweak
Speaker 1: that they're like, we're good, dude, we're good. Yeah six,
Speaker 1: what are you gonna say that? That ain't no spider
Speaker 1: your honor? A spider has eight limbs, we call our
Speaker 1: expert witness. How many limbs does the spider have? E
Speaker 1: it's a little baby spiders the defense rest your honor.
Speaker 1: But wow, I love the the energy that they go for.
Speaker 1: It reminds me of a tiny Fuppets that's cartoon. That's
Speaker 1: clearly a muppet baby's room, but they do the lameages
Speaker 1: like it's not Kermit, it's Kremit. Don't say it's has
Speaker 1: anything to do with their original ip. Yeah ga, so
Speaker 1: he was so what he's retired kermanently permanently, it's retired.
Speaker 1: He's retired currently, but not permanently, because characters have been
Speaker 1: retired and then come back and sexy new iterations like
Speaker 1: the handsome Hamburglar that they released a design of the
Speaker 1: kind of where did everybody out? A few years ago?
Speaker 1: Hopefully they're planning a sexy Grimace, but you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: I just I'd rather just have some closure around what
Speaker 1: he is once and for all. Yeah, you know, it's
Speaker 1: also like if that is a taste but it is
Speaker 1: a swollen, infected taste bud that which is kind of
Speaker 1: what it tastes like like after you've eaten McDonald's, and
Speaker 1: your your taste buds like are like kind of have
Speaker 1: pins and needles because you've eaten so much sodium and sugar.
Speaker 1: At the same time, it feels like there's a layer
Speaker 1: of Greece on your tongue that you can't get off,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Grimace and that Grimace is
Speaker 1: just the you know, impressionist kind of version of what
Speaker 1: that feeling is after you eat McDonald's. Maybe that's what
Speaker 1: it is. Oh well, you know, well we hope to
Speaker 1: know the real you one day. M M big big g. Well, Emily,
Speaker 1: it has been such a pleasure having you. Where can
Speaker 1: people find you and follow you and read you and
Speaker 1: all that good stuff? Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 1: This has been awesome. I'm very excited about my trivia
Speaker 1: book that is coming out next month. I love trivia
Speaker 1: and I got to write this over the pandemic. So
Speaker 1: it's mostly uplifting trivia things that make us not as
Speaker 1: sad because of the year and a half that we've had.
Speaker 1: And it's called one Day Smarter, and you can get
Speaker 1: it anywhere that you get your books. Pre Orders always help.
Speaker 1: I didn't know this, but it's like why people put
Speaker 1: like why bookstores put books on tables rather than on
Speaker 1: bottom shelves because those books got a lot of pre orders.
Speaker 1: So I appreciate pre orders. I'm on the internet at
Speaker 1: Emily Winter Comedy dot com and Emily mick Winter on
Speaker 1: Instagram and Twitter because my middle name is McKenna and
Speaker 1: I made a decision a long time ago and it
Speaker 1: was the wrong decision. Um and that is And you
Speaker 1: can follow comedians with ghost stories wherever you find podcasts,
Speaker 1: and thank you, and is there is there a place
Speaker 1: that you would prefer they go to purchase the book? Honestly,
Speaker 1: like if you have a bookstore that is your local
Speaker 1: bookstore that you know you might end up paying seventy
Speaker 1: cents more for the book, but you can ask them
Speaker 1: if they carry it, and you can a lot of
Speaker 1: my friends have pre ordered from their local store, So
Speaker 1: hopefully your local store will have it. Is there a
Speaker 1: favorite uplifting trivia effect that you can use as a teaser? Okay,
Speaker 1: so this one makes me so happy. This is one study,
Speaker 1: is just one study, but one study found that the
Speaker 1: happiest ages a D two. And the reason for that
Speaker 1: is that if you're still with it by a D two,
Speaker 1: you don't care anymore. If you're like hot or rich
Speaker 1: or like you didn't get that job, like, you don't care.
Speaker 1: You're just chilling, You're just having fun. And so it
Speaker 1: just makes me excited about aging because we're all supposed
Speaker 1: to be like, oh no, I wish I was twenty
Speaker 1: five forever and know we let's all get to eighty
Speaker 1: two and keep our wits about us and have a
Speaker 1: great year. Yeah. No, I think that's one of the
Speaker 1: big underrated kind of myths of American culture is that,
Speaker 1: like you, life gets worse as you age. Apparently that's
Speaker 1: not true, according to happiness studies. Just kind of figure
Speaker 1: it out as you go. You learn tricks. Is there
Speaker 1: a tweet or some of the work of social media
Speaker 1: you've been enjoying, Oh, you know, I didn't. I found
Speaker 1: one today. I was on Twitter today, and you know,
Speaker 1: Norm McDonald just died, so I feel like that is
Speaker 1: taking over my Twitter, and I was getting kind of
Speaker 1: annoyed with some of the norm McDonald tweets and uh,
Speaker 1: this wonderful comedian in Chicago, Jeffrey Asthmas. It's Jeffrey with
Speaker 1: a G e O F F e er. Why a
Speaker 1: t M is his Twitter handle? He said, before you
Speaker 1: publicly more in a celebrity's death, make sure the post
Speaker 1: doesn't mention you more than them. And it's not a funny,
Speaker 1: super funny tweet, just super super real because I'm so
Speaker 1: sick of seeing morning tweets that are like me, me, me,
Speaker 1: I I I. I'm like, okay, great, somebody's dead, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Just show a little respect. So
Speaker 1: Jeffrey nailed that, I thought, and it was cool. Yeah, yeah, Miles,
Speaker 1: Where can people find you? What's tweet you've been enjoying? Oh?
Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles
Speaker 1: of Gray. And also the other show for twenty Day
Speaker 1: Fiance was Sophia Alexandra. If you like ninety day Fiance,
Speaker 1: stop by for that because it's a raucous good time
Speaker 1: and I just wanna shout at the the NICKI minaj
Speaker 1: to Trinidad and Tobago cousins balls tweet as just has
Speaker 1: will never end. It seems like past guess. Danielle Radford
Speaker 1: at Danielle Radford tweeted, there is no big balls man,
Speaker 1: is the thing professional healthcare experts were forced to say.
Speaker 1: And this is because the Health Minister had to come
Speaker 1: out and just say there has been no such case
Speaker 1: as the Big balls man, and I just let me
Speaker 1: try to find the audio. One of the reasons we
Speaker 1: could not respond yesterday in real time to ms Manage
Speaker 1: is that we had to check and make sure that
Speaker 1: what she was claiming was either true or false. We
Speaker 1: did an Unfortunately, we wasted so much time yesterday running
Speaker 1: down this false claim. It is as far as we
Speaker 1: know at this point in time, there has been no
Speaker 1: such reported either side effect or adverse event. And what
Speaker 1: was sad about this is that it wasted our time
Speaker 1: yesterday trying to track down because we take all these
Speaker 1: claims seriously, whether it's on social media or mainstream media.
Speaker 1: As we stand now, there is absolutely no reported such
Speaker 1: side effect or adverse event of testiculous while in Trinidad
Speaker 1: or ideas see Dr Hanks anywhere else. None that we
Speaker 1: know of anywhere else in the world. So just again,
Speaker 1: the most professional response to a bad fake science tweet,
Speaker 1: and just this guy, you've been feeling so sad. Gosh,
Speaker 1: this is what happens when you This is what happens
Speaker 1: when we get these platforms. They're too big. If we
Speaker 1: forced someone in Trinidad do all this work because Nicki
Speaker 1: Minaj had a really cool anecdote. Yeah, let's see a
Speaker 1: tweet I've been enjoying is from a current guest, Emothy
Speaker 1: Emmeothy Emily McKenna winter, who tweeted a while back how
Speaker 1: to make friends as an adult. One say we should
Speaker 1: hang to do not hang? Three, Say we should hang
Speaker 1: six months later, four cancel, five, reschedule six, respect their cancelation, seven,
Speaker 1: reschedule eight, actually hang nine, say we should do this
Speaker 1: more often? Can die? What I thought was brilliant, Well done. Uh.
Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien.
Speaker 1: You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're
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Speaker 1: we post our episodes on our footnote where we link
Speaker 1: off to the information that we talked about in today's episode,
Speaker 1: as well as a song that we think you should
Speaker 1: go check out. Miles, what song are we saying people
Speaker 1: should go check out today? This is a track, a
Speaker 1: live track that was recorded live in Copenhagen, Denmark by
Speaker 1: a great band um. This is a band that includes
Speaker 1: Use of Days, one of my favorite drummers, Charlie Stacy
Speaker 1: and Rocco Palladino, the son of Pino Palladino, one of
Speaker 1: my favorite bassis. That's how you know you're getting old
Speaker 1: and you're like Pino son. There you go. This track
Speaker 1: is called for my Ladies. When they get together, they're
Speaker 1: just such fantastic musicians. They're kind of playing that new
Speaker 1: jazz type vibe. And this is a bit of a
Speaker 1: longer track, it's all over eight minutes, but it is
Speaker 1: a tourd a force of of instrumental mastery. So check
Speaker 1: this out. It's for My Ladies, live in Copenhagen, Use
Speaker 1: of Days, Charlie Stacy, Rocco Paladino. Awesome. Well. The Daily
Speaker 1: Zeyga is the production of I Heart Radio. From more
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Speaker 1: that is going to do it for us this morning.
Speaker 1: But we're back this afternoon to tell you what's trending,
Speaker 1: and we will talk to y'all then, all right,