Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of the
Speaker 1: Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from
Speaker 1: this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment laugh stravaganza.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, So, without further ado, here is the Weekly Sitgeist.
Speaker 1: Please welcome up, brilliant and talented Teresa Lee. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: that was mortifying. Um you reading my website. But I
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Speaker 1: here we go. Okay, alright, it's to recently a k
Speaker 1: A mid Philadelphia. Since Tuesday in the hotel, I potted
Speaker 1: most of us day, filling out emails, no time for
Speaker 1: the pool, keeping my mask on because those are the rules.
Speaker 1: When a couple of texts told me there's a flash
Speaker 1: food started by a tornado in the Tri State neighborhood,
Speaker 1: this textas a portunal log, got mere feeling all scared.
Speaker 1: I'm tired of feeling like my government is way beyond repair. Okay, wow, Okay. Also,
Speaker 1: don't don't do that. Don't be so you know, humble
Speaker 1: that you can't handle people bigging up your accomplishments. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean reading I didn't read that off
Speaker 1: your website. I didn't read that off your website. That's
Speaker 1: just where I just asked some people. I asked you
Speaker 1: it was, and that's what I got from them. So
Speaker 1: head out the window, he said, he on the knowledge. Alright, alright,
Speaker 1: thank you so much, Jack, Welcome, welcome. How is phil Philadelphia?
Speaker 1: Did you see any tornadoes while you were there? Did
Speaker 1: you look at the we did, well, this is I'm
Speaker 1: traveling with my dog and my boyfriend and I was
Speaker 1: supposed to do the punchline on Wednesday night and and
Speaker 1: and then like a random bar show, and like we
Speaker 1: got these warnings on my phone that all of our
Speaker 1: phones were like flash, flood, tornado, all this, and I
Speaker 1: was like, hey, maybe we should head out soon, and
Speaker 1: he just gave me the weirdest look, like, uh, did
Speaker 1: you see the warnings? Like it's probably gonna be like
Speaker 1: I don't think people are going out at all. And
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this is when you realize comedies
Speaker 1: a disease, because at no point was I like, oh,
Speaker 1: maybe I should cancel. It was like, oh, then stay
Speaker 1: didn't cancel. I bet I get going. And he was like,
Speaker 1: I thought the plan was everyone stay inside. We gotta
Speaker 1: beat that tornado traffic. Dude, we did the show the Percheline,
Speaker 1: Joe did get canceled. I did end up going to
Speaker 1: the bar show too because my friend, actually Blake who's
Speaker 1: been on the show, Blake Wexler, very funny round that show.
Speaker 1: We did walk through quite a bit of rain. It
Speaker 1: was fine, everyone's safe, but I did realize, like, this
Speaker 1: is not worth it. What are we doing, you know,
Speaker 1: with our lives? But fortunately you did not get lost
Speaker 1: in the tornado. Yeah. We like to ask our guest,
Speaker 1: what is something from your search history? Yeah, my last
Speaker 1: search history was a uh, medicine wheel, told them. So
Speaker 1: I turned out I sat on the Grandmother Moon Rock. So,
Speaker 1: long story short, I spent the last four days at
Speaker 1: this um therapy counseling, like youth camp type situation where
Speaker 1: you like go and down the woods and it's just
Speaker 1: this like full processing your inner child, all this ship
Speaker 1: that you you know that black people never do that
Speaker 1: you should do, right, So I went to go do it.
Speaker 1: They had a medicine wheel, you know, this rock thing
Speaker 1: they had like the labreath but in a in a
Speaker 1: weird twist of dissonance. It it was in Nashville, but
Speaker 1: on fucking Plantation. I was like, this is a plantation.
Speaker 1: I don't know how in the hell y'all want me
Speaker 1: to be open and vulnerable at a motherfucking plantation. Say,
Speaker 1: but I got over it, you know. And anyway, it
Speaker 1: took a while, but I got over it. But so,
Speaker 1: the last thing they had was this medicine wheel. I
Speaker 1: was looking at what the grandmother Moon told them meant
Speaker 1: and what does it mean? Do you know? Yeah, apparently
Speaker 1: it's like the spirit that guides the cycles of life
Speaker 1: and mostly as it's tied to the cycles of the
Speaker 1: feminine energy, so feminine life cycles, menstruations. How that's tied
Speaker 1: to the tides and the seasons, so it's supposed to
Speaker 1: be the guidance for the female soul. Ended up sitting
Speaker 1: on it, which is cool because I mean, I'm a girl. Dad,
Speaker 1: it's the only women in my house, So I'm like,
Speaker 1: and then and it was basically saying like, you should
Speaker 1: open yourself up to the sacred feminine and the feminine
Speaker 1: side and you and that like see how cycles can
Speaker 1: process and cleansing of life, death, YadA, YadA. So saying
Speaker 1: like you need to open up your feminine side. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's the only side in my house. I
Speaker 1: ain't got no option but to open up to the
Speaker 1: feminine side, Like how come you're not wearing sandals? Basically
Speaker 1: open of the feminine side, is Jesus said? And liquid
Speaker 1: swords because it's feminine like sandals, he was Jess got
Speaker 1: some questionable lines. I was like, I don't know what
Speaker 1: the hell this means, but I think I'm bringing it
Speaker 1: up like once a week, my favorite never it will
Speaker 1: never shake it, and that's a minimum feminine like sandals. Yes,
Speaker 1: I was like, I remember immediately every once in a
Speaker 1: while you just saying like, what's wrong with sandals? Man? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know that was that was wrong with sandals. I
Speaker 1: was like, you have been to the beach, you know
Speaker 1: where sandals tims only at the beach. Tim's all these
Speaker 1: yeah wallabes or fucking you gotta wear Clark wallabes or
Speaker 1: to the beach, to the beach just fully dressed in
Speaker 1: a hoodie in the ocean, Like come on, that's not
Speaker 1: even functional anyway. Yeah, I don't think wu Ware had
Speaker 1: much beach beach attire. There's no just a gigantic hockey
Speaker 1: jerseys which I had to of. So yeah, that's my
Speaker 1: last thirte What is uh what's something you think is overrated.
Speaker 1: I always have a hard time with this when I
Speaker 1: come on this show, But this is the one week,
Speaker 1: the one episode I've been on where I like really prepared,
Speaker 1: and the thing I find the most over radio right
Speaker 1: now is letter writing. There are all kinds of people
Speaker 1: who are like, oh, you know, it'd be cool is
Speaker 1: to write my my sister a letter, or my my
Speaker 1: mom and dad letters. Like I'm gonna sit down with
Speaker 1: a piece of paper in a band, I'm gonna write
Speaker 1: a letter. Like why you're just gonna cramp your hand.
Speaker 1: Your poor hand is gonna cramp up. You're wasting paper.
Speaker 1: You have to then get a stamp, and then you
Speaker 1: have to go to the post office or you get
Speaker 1: to go to the whatever, like the mailbox in your
Speaker 1: building or your house. But it's just too much work
Speaker 1: for what. Someone is gonna crumple it up and throw
Speaker 1: it the fucking trash. Who saves letters. Nobody saves letters
Speaker 1: except for characters and Jane Austin novels like Get out
Speaker 1: of Here with This Letter, people in like Love after
Speaker 1: lock Up and I have all the letters he sent
Speaker 1: me from the inside. Yeah, he saves letters or saved
Speaker 1: letters suck at Charles Mansonez Brothers, Scott Peterson, Shall I continue?
Speaker 1: Who does? Who is it for? I mean because I
Speaker 1: try and look at it practically. The reason I don't
Speaker 1: write letters is because I have much quicker ways to
Speaker 1: communicate with people. And I guess I don't see I'm
Speaker 1: not too attached to like I guess the whimsical or
Speaker 1: the you know, the value that makes letter writing sort
Speaker 1: of attractive. But I don't know. Also, like I just
Speaker 1: I write big block letters and I'll fill up a
Speaker 1: page in like three sentences. Oh yeah, my handwriting is
Speaker 1: fucking poor, but my mother has beautiful handwriting and shill
Speaker 1: like say into her letters with like perfew just something.
Speaker 1: I'm like Bob, who gives a fuck just to be
Speaker 1: an email type it? Text me, just don't call me
Speaker 1: because they don't have time to talk. Don't verbally speak
Speaker 1: to me, whatever you could do. Efficient conversation is more
Speaker 1: important than good conversation. In my opinion, what's gonna be
Speaker 1: our letter writing? Because I can see why your mother
Speaker 1: would say she loves it, because my same Like I
Speaker 1: look at my my parents, my grandmother, she had fucking
Speaker 1: beautiful handwriting, like you know, a way that I was like,
Speaker 1: I get it. This is like graffiti for you know,
Speaker 1: people at home, like they're like, let me throw up
Speaker 1: this beautiful letter. But I'm trying to think of what
Speaker 1: our dated sort of mode of communication that will insist
Speaker 1: on the people like we're off that we all we're
Speaker 1: all meeting in the metaverse. Ho. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: there's like a classiness vinier to letter writing that like
Speaker 1: still persists with some young people like that. It's like
Speaker 1: artisanal email, that's why. But I yeah, there is something
Speaker 1: about getting a nice handwritten note, you know, after the fact,
Speaker 1: as a gesture, I see the value and maybe it's
Speaker 1: like as a gesture like oh wow, look at that.
Speaker 1: That's handwriting. That's a little more hard. Go to Hallmark
Speaker 1: and get me a card, Go Papyrus if those still exists,
Speaker 1: give me a greeting card. Thanks, signed whoever. Miles Like,
Speaker 1: I don't need you to write a fucking tone about
Speaker 1: how great my wedding was. Just get out of here.
Speaker 1: Do you feel pressured to then return? It is that? Yes,
Speaker 1: of course, you have essentially given me extra work. Yeah,
Speaker 1: by doing the work yourself, you have forced me to
Speaker 1: give you the labor that you have so graciously pistowed
Speaker 1: upon me. No, thank you. If I don't do it,
Speaker 1: then I'm the bad guy. And in a sense it's
Speaker 1: able is m because I do not have the ability
Speaker 1: to write. My handwriting fucking sucks. I'm like handed, it's
Speaker 1: like all over place, ship out of it. So it's
Speaker 1: like they're wagging in my face their ability to write beautifully,
Speaker 1: and it's just they don't understand what what it would
Speaker 1: be like if I tried to write them back. It
Speaker 1: would be an ordeal for both of us. I think
Speaker 1: our version of it, our generation's version of this sort
Speaker 1: of artisanal horseshit is ao ll instant messenger. You know, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's already dead, but we're like I'll remember when you
Speaker 1: come home from school and you just like talk all
Speaker 1: night with like your crush and you send, you know,
Speaker 1: a little emojis that weren't actually emojis because you had
Speaker 1: to use like a colon and parentheses to make a
Speaker 1: smiley face. Remember that it sucks. It was not that great.
Speaker 1: It was it was fine. It was a mode of communication.
Speaker 1: That's it. I don't see anything like cool about it.
Speaker 1: Oh are you playing the sound? I was like, what
Speaker 1: then is that Oh my god, Wow, I am about
Speaker 1: to pop out of my trousers. Is so exciting. I know,
Speaker 1: you hit enough, smarter child and saying hey when what
Speaker 1: what time? Is a Mortal Kombat playing at the AMC
Speaker 1: North six? Yeah? Where are we? Where are we riding
Speaker 1: to tonight? Boys? Or just like flirting with a girl
Speaker 1: all night and having like a really intense conversation absolutely nothing.
Speaker 1: Oh boy, I think he really likes me. Oh, I
Speaker 1: wonder what it's gonna be. Like it's school tomorrow, which
Speaker 1: is so which I guess makes sense why Like on
Speaker 1: like app dating is so it has like kind of
Speaker 1: similar energy, but most people don't have the same passion
Speaker 1: for it like we did a I am because a
Speaker 1: lot of people like it's just like I'm dating over text.
Speaker 1: I'm like, that is pretty much the only way I
Speaker 1: was communicating with a certain point. Yeah, we weren't allowed
Speaker 1: to have phones in our rooms, and we had cell phones,
Speaker 1: but like they weren't we we didn't have um, you know,
Speaker 1: iPhones at the time. So it was just like, well,
Speaker 1: let's get on aim and we'll figure it out. Get
Speaker 1: on name and just have very lewed conversations over text
Speaker 1: in someone's family room. Yeah, the computer station killed Lord. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the computer was just like riddled with viruses and all
Speaker 1: kinds of horrible things were being said. Kind of like now,
Speaker 1: I guess that's difference, just like a test run for
Speaker 1: the internet pretty much. What is something you think is underrated?
Speaker 1: Costco Kirkland signature, I think it's underrated. Which thing though,
Speaker 1: which goes like late focus in well, focus on focus in?
Speaker 1: Is buying booze at Costco? Like that's something that if
Speaker 1: you're not doing at home, do it now, Like you're
Speaker 1: you're wasting your money, You're wasting your life away if
Speaker 1: you're not buying booze at Costco having a party, you
Speaker 1: don't and get boos at Costco. Costco it's half the price,
Speaker 1: and it's twice the size, and they have all of
Speaker 1: their mixers, like their their gallon drinks. Those are also cheaper,
Speaker 1: and you just like stock up, go and go every quarter.
Speaker 1: You don't even need to wait for a party. Don't
Speaker 1: be shame like go on your own, like on the
Speaker 1: first of every month, stock up and like just make
Speaker 1: it a part of your your ritual, your routine. Right,
Speaker 1: do they have wine? While we're on the subject, do
Speaker 1: they have. They have the giant wines. There's the regular
Speaker 1: wine bottle, but then there's the magnum. They have Magnum.
Speaker 1: I think a Jared Bones the biggest, and there's a
Speaker 1: Nevid Kadnezzar is like an even bigger bottle. This is
Speaker 1: I had a religion teacher tell us this when we
Speaker 1: were sixteen. Is that true? Yeah, it's like the biggest
Speaker 1: wine bottle that And you're like what, Like you were
Speaker 1: just talking about the passion, so it's hard to imagine
Speaker 1: how it can get bigger than those big Like how
Speaker 1: do you even carry that? It's like the side because
Speaker 1: it's just like a stupid I guess I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just tuned out because he would show like a
Speaker 1: man for all seasons rather than like snitching, like and
Speaker 1: that was like his whole curriculum and talking about gigantic
Speaker 1: wine bottles. So anyways, shout out to you. I also
Speaker 1: have kitchen shears on this list. M I think people
Speaker 1: bust out a car cutting board and a knife for
Speaker 1: any old thing you can just cut it, just stand
Speaker 1: above the pan, snip snip snip, sausages, carrots, and then
Speaker 1: I also have the TV show Veronica Mars it's called classic.
Speaker 1: I love it. I think it's Kristen Bell's best work. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I bought a yellow nissanics Erica. Is that show? Did
Speaker 1: you really know? But I thought that was a cool
Speaker 1: car then and I and every time I said, I'm
Speaker 1: like right, stand by it. You could you could be like, hey,
Speaker 1: who's that? Who's that? That completely missed me? Is that
Speaker 1: a it's like detective? Yeah, it's like a it's like
Speaker 1: a grimier Nancy dre in what looks like Van Knives California.
Speaker 1: No like magical element to it, no magic element. But
Speaker 1: it was only three seasons. It got canceled, and then
Speaker 1: the fan base was so committed that ten years later
Speaker 1: they completely crowdfunded a movie and then Hulu picked it
Speaker 1: up for the last season. Nice. Yeah, all right, Well
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and we will be right back.
Speaker 1: And we're back, Um and Miles, you brought this article
Speaker 1: and vice to my attention about people who are developing Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's sociogenic, also called functional disorders. I've called them psychogenic before,
Speaker 1: because you know, that's what they're referred to in some
Speaker 1: places because the cause tends to be located in the brain.
Speaker 1: But it's it's basically people who are developing ticks based
Speaker 1: on who they follow on TikTok who and like people
Speaker 1: they follow on TikTok having ticks and like that. The
Speaker 1: article also talks about people who can read an article
Speaker 1: about someone with MS and then start developing the symptoms
Speaker 1: of MS, so like similar kind of cognitive basis for
Speaker 1: physical illnesses. And this hit at the same time that
Speaker 1: like this is starting to become taken more seriously in
Speaker 1: the Havana syndrome conversation. So yeah, and the whole thing
Speaker 1: with this, like they said, like Jen's there's a lot
Speaker 1: of young people between like twelve and twenty five that
Speaker 1: have developed like physical ticks, and a lot of these
Speaker 1: kids we were possibly convinced that they had Tourette's or
Speaker 1: something like that, but when they would go to doctors
Speaker 1: who specialize in like this technically isn't turetts. It is
Speaker 1: a physical tick, but this wouldn't essentially be Turette's because
Speaker 1: that would develop at a much earlier age for someone.
Speaker 1: And these these specialists who like, as they say, their
Speaker 1: their whole thing is about Turette's. They've said that they've
Speaker 1: seen referrals for these kind of like rapid onset of
Speaker 1: like physical ticks. It used to just be around one
Speaker 1: to five percent of their total cases before the pandemic.
Speaker 1: It's now twenty to thirty percent of their cases now.
Speaker 1: And they they the researchers they quote describe a quote
Speaker 1: parallel pandemic of young people aged twelve to twenty five,
Speaker 1: almost exclusively girls and women, presenting with the rapid onset
Speaker 1: of complex motor and vocal tick like behaviors. They have
Speaker 1: been striking commonalities in the phenomenology of these tick like
Speaker 1: behaviors observed across our centers in Canada, the United States,
Speaker 1: the UK, Germany, and Australia. Curiously, the researchers state that
Speaker 1: for the patients they studied, in addition to experiencing pandemic
Speaker 1: related stressors, all endorsed exposure to influencers on social media,
Speaker 1: mainly TikTok with ticks or Turette syndrome. So it's like
Speaker 1: this weird thing where they're you know, a lot of
Speaker 1: people who developed these ticks are saying, you know, people
Speaker 1: don't believe them, or people will try to like that's
Speaker 1: not Turette's like you're faking this ship and it's like
Speaker 1: causing a lot of distress and things like that. But
Speaker 1: these experts are really finding this thing of like this
Speaker 1: the isolation and just general stress for certain people has
Speaker 1: created this environment in which they're now sort of like
Speaker 1: like the content that they've been exposed to on TikTok
Speaker 1: is feeding into that. Now. I didn't know there was
Speaker 1: a like TikTok. But the interesting thing about that is
Speaker 1: it I feel like there is some sort of subconscious
Speaker 1: survival mechanism there, even though it doesn't make sense to
Speaker 1: us because it sounds like ticks would be quote unquote
Speaker 1: negative in our sense. But if you're watching what you
Speaker 1: consider like an influencer or socially you know, a higher
Speaker 1: up than you or someone you admire, and your teenage
Speaker 1: girl like one of the most important things at that
Speaker 1: time for survival is to feel accepted. So I could
Speaker 1: totally draw the line. I mean, I'm not assignedist, this
Speaker 1: would be wrong, but my first thought is subconsciously, your
Speaker 1: body wants to like adapt and fit in, So it
Speaker 1: would pick that up because I remember when we were
Speaker 1: in high school, people were saying speaking like Valley girls.
Speaker 1: There was a girl who faked her voice all through
Speaker 1: high school, just like she it wasn't her real voice,
Speaker 1: but she would just fake it and she would never
Speaker 1: go up break character. But when she was younger, it
Speaker 1: wasn't like that. It was just to sound like a
Speaker 1: little more like a girly girl like that, the whole thing.
Speaker 1: And it's it's wild because it's you know, they've tried
Speaker 1: to figure out from every level, like is it really this,
Speaker 1: but they keep going back to the thing that they said.
Speaker 1: In some cases, the patients specifically identified in association between
Speaker 1: these media exposures and the onset of their symptoms. So
Speaker 1: it's just this this conversation, this I don't know, this
Speaker 1: back and forth between the psychological, emotional, and physical that
Speaker 1: are all kind of manifesting into this other. You know,
Speaker 1: they say like in like a mini pandemic within the pandemic. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess I'm curious if it's dangerous. I mean, I
Speaker 1: understand anything unknown is scary and we want especially if
Speaker 1: it's spreading that fast. But and that definitely something about
Speaker 1: this is unsettling. But I'm curious why they've named it
Speaker 1: an epidemic, Like is do my understanding that there are
Speaker 1: a lot of ticks that are harmless, right, and some
Speaker 1: people report ones that are way more violent and like
Speaker 1: they will hit themselves or they're you know, and it
Speaker 1: and it could be something from just some people were
Speaker 1: just saying beans. A lot other people would just like
Speaker 1: you know, have other things like like scrunching their nose
Speaker 1: or other sort of physical ticks. But it ran the
Speaker 1: entire spectrum of these sort of involuntary movements. So this
Speaker 1: uh Havana syndrome article that kind of approaches that from
Speaker 1: this perspective speaks with a lot of people who are
Speaker 1: experts on what they call functional disorders, and there they
Speaker 1: say that it's like not like to approach it as
Speaker 1: like okay, so this is expressing like some subconscious need
Speaker 1: or is kind of counterproductive because it's really like more
Speaker 1: about approaching it from the neurological perspective. And they like
Speaker 1: tell the story of this guy who just like suddenly
Speaker 1: started having really bad lower back pain and fever and chills,
Speaker 1: and then like went to the hospital and like they
Speaker 1: couldn't figure out what was wrong with him, and he
Speaker 1: like couldn't for a year and a half, like nobody
Speaker 1: knew what was wrong with him. It was like he
Speaker 1: couldn't walk anymore. And then this expert was just like, no,
Speaker 1: it's not like it's not a thing. It The doctors
Speaker 1: eventually were like, it's psychogenic. It's starting your brain, and
Speaker 1: he was like, fuck you, because that's like there's a
Speaker 1: a stigma to it, and it sounds like, oh, you're
Speaker 1: making it up, and that's not what's happening. What's happening.
Speaker 1: It is something that is happening to you. You're you
Speaker 1: have control over it. The brain is this massive, massive,
Speaker 1: like more massive than we can possibly comprehend machine with
Speaker 1: like so so much happening and we only have like
Speaker 1: a access to like a small little pinhole of consciousness,
Speaker 1: and so you're not choosing anything. This is something that's
Speaker 1: happening to you, and that that seems like basically the
Speaker 1: scientific consensus at this point, even though like the way
Speaker 1: that The New Yorker and some other New York Times
Speaker 1: articles have covered it has been like, well, these doctors
Speaker 1: think it's this brain injury caused by microwaves, Like anybody
Speaker 1: who's an expert like says like it's impossible. What you're
Speaker 1: talking about is physically impossible. The sound waves thing. People
Speaker 1: are still calling it ultrasound. They point out that like
Speaker 1: when we use ultrasound on like a pregnant woman's belly,
Speaker 1: like that gel is there, because if there's a single
Speaker 1: little pocket of air in between like the ultrasound and
Speaker 1: the thing it's trying to reach, it'll completely destroy it.
Speaker 1: Like you can't ultrasound can't travel through air. Sound can't
Speaker 1: travel through air in an effective way. Microwaves same deal,
Speaker 1: Like you would basically feel like you are being cooked
Speaker 1: in a microwave oven, not like you are have are
Speaker 1: having a very specific targeted thing in your brain. The
Speaker 1: other thing they point to is that with these functional disorders,
Speaker 1: like the symptoms usually last longer than a physical injury,
Speaker 1: because what what's happening is it's like getting locked into
Speaker 1: because of like stress and fear and like social conditions.
Speaker 1: It's getting locked into like neurological pathways, and then you
Speaker 1: can't get out of them because it's not actually a
Speaker 1: physical thing that you're recovering. So, like they with regards
Speaker 1: to Havannah, they said, one of the reasons that they
Speaker 1: can tell that it's a functional disorder is that the people,
Speaker 1: like if all these people had just been like hit
Speaker 1: on the head with something very heavy, like that's not
Speaker 1: what happened. But like they were saying, they like had
Speaker 1: brain trauma. If everybody had had suffered brain trauma at
Speaker 1: the time that they felt like they had been attacked,
Speaker 1: they would have healed within weeks. But instead they're still
Speaker 1: experiencing the symptoms like years later. And so they're like,
Speaker 1: that is a text a textbook sign that this is
Speaker 1: a functional disorder. It's just wild that they because even
Speaker 1: as you're saying that, like there's phrases like oh, it's
Speaker 1: in your head, right, which we come to know as
Speaker 1: like you're making it up. But then when you said
Speaker 1: it in a scientific way, like it's something happening in
Speaker 1: the brain, we're like, yeah, that's a physical part of
Speaker 1: your body. Is actually a pretty important part of your
Speaker 1: body something It also does other things, right, like regulate
Speaker 1: your blood flow or whatever, Like it does other things
Speaker 1: that were not like I can't believe you lifted your arm.
Speaker 1: It's all in your head. It's like, no, my my
Speaker 1: brain told me to lift my arms. So that I
Speaker 1: can answer this question, why is that different from like
Speaker 1: it's hurting my back, except in this case, I don't
Speaker 1: know why, like just because it came from my brain
Speaker 1: doesn't mean I'm all asshole, who's doing this to waste
Speaker 1: your time? Doctor? You know read builds are expensive. So
Speaker 1: I find that, like it's such a strange cognitive dissonance
Speaker 1: of our health care system. I think people get so
Speaker 1: scared to be like seen as like hokey or like
Speaker 1: veering into like any alternative medicine, that we forget that
Speaker 1: there are a lot of old, like old ways, ancient medicine,
Speaker 1: ancient learnings that aren't perfect, but neither are Western medicines,
Speaker 1: and like if we just take that line away and
Speaker 1: just look at more truth, we can bridge the gap
Speaker 1: and figure out more things. Yeah, or in this case,
Speaker 1: just being able to not revert to like this very
Speaker 1: rigid way of diagnosing things like where you know, like
Speaker 1: really and to your point of being open and things
Speaker 1: like yeah, this, if they're saying it, it's we should
Speaker 1: also know that it's very quite possible that they're experiencing
Speaker 1: something that is not known to me because I might
Speaker 1: not have an area of expertise in this place. But
Speaker 1: take this person's word for it rather than saying like
Speaker 1: a yeah, whatever, you're just you're fucking tripping. There's a
Speaker 1: lot more research now about like what like the MDR
Speaker 1: and all that stuff about how you can actually re
Speaker 1: reprocess those patterns that don't get stored correctly. And it's
Speaker 1: a little different than this, but it sounds similar. When
Speaker 1: you said there's like a path kind of that gets
Speaker 1: glitchy and you repeat a glitch over and over, it's
Speaker 1: very similar to add addiction therapy is like very similar.
Speaker 1: But so this guy Jason Lindsley, who now is like
Speaker 1: openly like I suffered from this thing called a functional
Speaker 1: movement disorder for a year and a half. The way
Speaker 1: that he treated it was he met with this guy
Speaker 1: who's an expert or actually it's a woman in Louisville, Kentucky,
Speaker 1: was an expert who basically just did these like got
Speaker 1: him to be on board with it. It's like, no,
Speaker 1: it's not. It's not a mental thing. It's a neurological
Speaker 1: like brain thing that like you have no control over.
Speaker 1: They like put him through these therapies that were just
Speaker 1: about like motor retraining designed to overcome his resistance to
Speaker 1: normal movements. Physical therapists began by asking him to take
Speaker 1: miniscule movements of his feet, and he spent part of
Speaker 1: each day undergoing cognitive behavioral therapy, and like a week
Speaker 1: later he walked out of the clinic like nothing had
Speaker 1: ever been wrong with him, and so it's yeah, and
Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, that's what what it was. It was
Speaker 1: a functional disorder. That doesn't mean like I had something
Speaker 1: wrong with me, It's just that's the thing that happens.
Speaker 1: I do think it's interesting that we're seeing more and
Speaker 1: more of these functional disorders at a time when we're
Speaker 1: having more and more you know, Theresa, like you were saying,
Speaker 1: like kind of having to sublimate and like deal with
Speaker 1: stress and like use cognitive dissonance just to get through
Speaker 1: our day to day lives, like just having to deal
Speaker 1: with the fact that we live on a planet that
Speaker 1: is like dying and nobody's doing anything about it. And
Speaker 1: you know, it just seems like there's more internal stress
Speaker 1: that we're not able to address or even express in
Speaker 1: our day to day lives than ever before. So it
Speaker 1: kind of makes sense to me that we would be
Speaker 1: having these things like kind of coming out of our
Speaker 1: own conscious and attacking our our body more than we
Speaker 1: have in the past. Well, and the age is interesting too,
Speaker 1: because like I think I'm just beyond that age where
Speaker 1: even though I can be Internet savvy, most of my
Speaker 1: development years were spent in the real world, Like you know,
Speaker 1: the screens and apps weren't as big, whereas with the
Speaker 1: pandemic plus the Internet age gen z, I think virtually
Speaker 1: in their brain don't distinguish an interaction online versus in
Speaker 1: real life like they can tell you it is. It's
Speaker 1: not like they're like I can tell but in terms
Speaker 1: of like if someone confesses their love, if someone bullies them,
Speaker 1: I think that in their brain it has a semifa
Speaker 1: maybe yeah, Whereas for me it might be different because
Speaker 1: I remember, you know, wanting to go to the school
Speaker 1: dances and getting and flirting in person. I've had my
Speaker 1: share of flirting online, but it's a little bit different
Speaker 1: because I was older, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: I didn't have It's not like that that like first
Speaker 1: introduction to those sensations. So I feel like that must
Speaker 1: be a part of it too, because they're online and
Speaker 1: they're developing by watching, whereas we can just grow past thinking, oh,
Speaker 1: it's just like a character on a screen. Sure, I
Speaker 1: mean it's just yeah, but there I mean we I mean,
Speaker 1: I was definitely like I modeled shipped off of TV
Speaker 1: when I was younger, so there may be carry face.
Speaker 1: I was going around everywhere going like some somebody stop me.
Speaker 1: I know the tattoo, but yeah, I feel like, yo,
Speaker 1: get that lasered off. Or a book also enters everyw
Speaker 1: like Cramer kicks on the door and sledge when I
Speaker 1: say what's up, Jerry, and they're like, what's up, Jerry?
Speaker 1: Nothing anyway? Uh no, but this it Yeah, these differences
Speaker 1: are I think we're starting to see right like we're
Speaker 1: in an age where there are people who have been
Speaker 1: interacting with screens and apps that are designed to manipulate
Speaker 1: your brain, and then you're adding these isolate like the
Speaker 1: isolation of a pandemic, plus like the lack of social
Speaker 1: contact and additional stress and things like that. It's I
Speaker 1: can only imagine like that this is probably some we're
Speaker 1: seeing an experiment basically play out on some level of
Speaker 1: trying to understand like how all of these things may
Speaker 1: interact at a certain age. But yeah, it's it's but
Speaker 1: I mean it's so the Havana syndrome thing is happening
Speaker 1: to like grown adult bureaucrats, like kind of the opposite
Speaker 1: end of the spectrum from young teenage people who are
Speaker 1: on TikTok. But it's still I I I always want
Speaker 1: to like kind of resist the urge to blame technology,
Speaker 1: even though I know there's like a lot of new
Speaker 1: ship happening, Like I do think that just across the board,
Speaker 1: everybody's under more stress than they've ever ever been under,
Speaker 1: and it's like stress that nobody is acknowledging kind of money.
Speaker 1: You guys got to shake it out. Okay, look, I
Speaker 1: know it sounds still in your head. I used to
Speaker 1: just like when I get sad, I would just start
Speaker 1: like shaking my butt, and I thought that was funny.
Speaker 1: But over the pandemic, I started realizing that this isn't
Speaker 1: just a weird thing I do. I think it's like
Speaker 1: a smart thing I do. I think it's like those
Speaker 1: stress needs to come out some way. So shake your
Speaker 1: butt at home, guys, do it save shake your butt
Speaker 1: to yourself. Okay, don't flash in a body that is
Speaker 1: gonna be flashing when you shake your butt. Are you
Speaker 1: like half are you trying? Like what do you mean?
Speaker 1: Just like one like this, I wish my computer wasn't
Speaker 1: so because I know I could hear you were shaking,
Speaker 1: but I could not see it. I could just see frozen.
Speaker 1: It's like since I was a kid, I know it
Speaker 1: sounds ridiculous. As an adult woman, I'm like, I'm shaking
Speaker 1: my butt, but like babies literally will like shake their
Speaker 1: butt like that, you know, And then I'm growing up
Speaker 1: to actually dance and torque and whatever. So yeah, I'll
Speaker 1: put on music I like and like actually start to
Speaker 1: move around and feel myself, you know, like this is
Speaker 1: a fun move whatever. But I'll do that for something
Speaker 1: like ten minutes while I'm cooking and just, uh, it
Speaker 1: seems silly, but during pandemic, when I was like the
Speaker 1: most isolated, it was almost like a daily thing. It
Speaker 1: just I'll just get the art to do it. And
Speaker 1: I think it was literally my body being like time
Speaker 1: to get all the news of today out through your butts,
Speaker 1: like you but yeah, there's there's your cult though. You
Speaker 1: get people shaking their butts and like, you know, but
Speaker 1: you give them that information, right they process information, but
Speaker 1: then process that do but wiggling. But okay, I could
Speaker 1: go for that. That we're closer to a cold I
Speaker 1: might actually take on. So yeah, you know, I can
Speaker 1: break my brek going to build this thing when you
Speaker 1: feel sad, but I was just picturing someone like crying
Speaker 1: while like just sadly shaking that. Uh, all right, let's
Speaker 1: move on to where we're at with unemployment in the US.
Speaker 1: I know, like in the in the mainstream media, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of headlines about US misses its jobs number
Speaker 1: for fucking whatever August. I don't know, I don't know
Speaker 1: whatever month we just lived through, and so that that's
Speaker 1: going to filter down to us in some sort of
Speaker 1: probably in humane policy. But well, you know, we've also
Speaker 1: in the past talked about how other countries are experimenting
Speaker 1: with a four day work week and having great results. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just it's just wild to see, Like when I'm
Speaker 1: scrolling news headlines, one thing will be like, you know,
Speaker 1: Scotland all so now participating in pilot program for four
Speaker 1: day work week, and then the next one is like
Speaker 1: seven point five million people will lose some or all
Speaker 1: of their unemployment benefits. And the just difference in just
Speaker 1: the basics on how we look at employment and working
Speaker 1: and the culture around work and what it means for
Speaker 1: like the actual human beings. Because yeah, like we've talked
Speaker 1: about this a lot. How much like we love, we
Speaker 1: love a four day work week around here, like as
Speaker 1: an idea, I mean, it makes sense. Whatever is more
Speaker 1: efficient is what should be happening because that allows people
Speaker 1: to live more of their lives with their families or
Speaker 1: their passions or whatever it may be. And you know,
Speaker 1: the last thing we saw was like this huge study
Speaker 1: that was like years long. They said, hey, man, we're
Speaker 1: having a real hard time finding an excuse why a
Speaker 1: thirty two hour work week wouldn't be good for people.
Speaker 1: And most recently, I think in twenty nineteen in Japan.
Speaker 1: Microsoft Japan again, but Japan is fucking you want to
Speaker 1: talk about work culture where like, you know, Japan, only
Speaker 1: a few places people like in a modern country or
Speaker 1: developed country where people die from overworking like an office
Speaker 1: job and like that kind of exhaustion. So for Japan
Speaker 1: to kind of even engage with like maybe there's a
Speaker 1: better way to do this, I was like, Okay, well
Speaker 1: what's going on? So Microsoft they gave twenty three they're
Speaker 1: like all their employees, twenty three hundred of them in
Speaker 1: Japan specifically, they said you can choose like your own,
Speaker 1: you know, flexible work style that's gonna kind of come
Speaker 1: out to a four day work week, and let's just
Speaker 1: see if there would be something good that comes out
Speaker 1: of it. They fucking had a forty percent increase in
Speaker 1: productivity and then like exponential growth in people's like feelings
Speaker 1: of positivity and like just feeling better about their quality
Speaker 1: of life just because they had the flexibility to figure
Speaker 1: out how they could work in a in a more
Speaker 1: efficient way. They even said, look, we're not even gonna
Speaker 1: have fucking meetings that are more than thirty minutes, Like,
Speaker 1: let's really figure out how to make things as efficient
Speaker 1: as possible. In the US, we've had a congress person
Speaker 1: introduce a bill that he's saying, like, yeah, in America,
Speaker 1: we should look at a thirty two hour work week.
Speaker 1: We really need to do it because all of the
Speaker 1: data we have supports this move. And again, as he says,
Speaker 1: shorter work week would benefit both employers and employees alike.
Speaker 1: Pilot programs run by governments and businesses across the globe
Speaker 1: of showing promising results. Productivity climbed report, people reported better
Speaker 1: work life balance, less need to take sick days, heightened morale,
Speaker 1: and lower childcare expenses because people have more times with
Speaker 1: their families and children. It's just all fucking there, but
Speaker 1: we won't do it. And meanwhile, you know, you juxtapose
Speaker 1: that with what we're looking at in the u S,
Speaker 1: which is cut the benefits to force someone into a
Speaker 1: situation where they have to take a job that they
Speaker 1: don't want, because that's where we're at, that's the that's
Speaker 1: currently the like the philosophy, or at least a lot
Speaker 1: of the economic analysts are like, well, we have eight
Speaker 1: and a half million people unemployed and we have ten
Speaker 1: million job openings, so I think that's gonna fit. You know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's gonna fit like a fucking glove. And we're continue
Speaker 1: to see that that's not the case, and we still
Speaker 1: get these same dumb, fucking fake cass talking points or
Speaker 1: the unemployment benefits are making people lazy and ship like that.
Speaker 1: And there was a new new research came out. For
Speaker 1: every eight workers who lost benefits, only one found a job.
Speaker 1: So even people who lost job like lost jobs, they
Speaker 1: were having trouble finding the work that was actually relevant
Speaker 1: to them. They said, the leading reasons why unemployed aren't
Speaker 1: taking jobs have little to do with government money and
Speaker 1: everything to do with health and economic crisis, child care scarcity,
Speaker 1: and cost fear. Of getting or spreading COVID nineteen and
Speaker 1: taking care of someone with the disease or getting sick
Speaker 1: themselves according to the survey, And we're kind of like
Speaker 1: stuck in this loop of like just only measuring our
Speaker 1: success based on shareholder value. It's so toxic the way
Speaker 1: that the mainstream media covers the ship because it like
Speaker 1: these are people making the best decisions for their health,
Speaker 1: for their ability to survive. It's the same ship with
Speaker 1: the the unhoused population has gone down, but they're more
Speaker 1: conspicuous now because they're not going to shelters anymore because
Speaker 1: they know that shelters are deadly because their COVID outbreaks
Speaker 1: there in a lot of cases, and so they're living
Speaker 1: on the streets and accumulating things that they need to
Speaker 1: live on the streets. So now you are seeing the
Speaker 1: unhoused population in your community much more than you used to,
Speaker 1: and the like it's not being covered as like yeah,
Speaker 1: of course they're doing that because that's what is saving
Speaker 1: their lives, Like that's what it's just being covered like, well,
Speaker 1: this is disgusting, like it's a problem, and like the
Speaker 1: same with like people not going back to work. It's
Speaker 1: like turned into laziness instead of you don't want to
Speaker 1: be out in like a place that doesn't respect your
Speaker 1: fucking like like your health, like especially right now while
Speaker 1: we're living through a global pandemic. But the like that's
Speaker 1: everywhere like across the center. Yeah, we did an episode
Speaker 1: on we the Royal We I did an episode on
Speaker 1: the politics about the ending of these unemployment benefits and
Speaker 1: what what Miles brought up as far as like the
Speaker 1: theory being, well, if you're getting free money, why would
Speaker 1: you go back to work? And how that's just not
Speaker 1: playing out like the the owner of um What's the
Speaker 1: job Monster was was the the job site? Yeah, he
Speaker 1: was like, we're just not seeing it in the states
Speaker 1: that y'all ended it early. Who was ain't applying for jobs?
Speaker 1: And when we did that episode, they was what was
Speaker 1: in the news then was like Applebee's was offering free
Speaker 1: appetizers or if you came to get an interview. And
Speaker 1: to me, it's like to your point, Jack, like when
Speaker 1: you think about economic models, like economy models, you know,
Speaker 1: sociological trends, it's like, I just there's this weird like
Speaker 1: but are y'all talking to actual people though, because like
Speaker 1: your models and who are you modeling it by? I
Speaker 1: remember in economics, I remember my undergrad you had they
Speaker 1: had the the the average man was like what you
Speaker 1: what you modeled all of your economic models on? But
Speaker 1: like that's not a real person. You know, nobody has
Speaker 1: nobody actually has two point five kids. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, that's not a person. So it's like,
Speaker 1: how you modeling your whole model and what you're telling
Speaker 1: me things is happening based on a human that don't exist.
Speaker 1: If you just actually talk to a human that exists,
Speaker 1: the ship makes perfect sist. Why would I go back
Speaker 1: to his job? You had a year off on a
Speaker 1: job to realize this job was bullshit. I was tired
Speaker 1: all the damn time. I ain't to work and you
Speaker 1: ain't pay me enough? Why the hell would I go back? Right?
Speaker 1: Like they just like this just seems so easy, Like
Speaker 1: or if you're an employer, just go I wonder why
Speaker 1: nobody's coming give it getting our jobs. Maybe we should
Speaker 1: offer appetizers or maybe you benefits money, Like how about
Speaker 1: pay them better? How about treat people better? Why do
Speaker 1: you think did and just like yeah, the homeless thing
Speaker 1: is just like it's like you're not talking to actual people.
Speaker 1: Do shame makes sense if you just talk to actual people, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because everything is is done on a balance sheet, and
Speaker 1: that's why it's so violent, because it doesn't take into
Speaker 1: account people's humanity. They just look at well, eight and
Speaker 1: a half million people with new jobs. I got ten
Speaker 1: million jobs opening. The recovery is only a matter of time.
Speaker 1: But it's right there for you. Yeah, they're not just yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just the idea they're you know, they're not just
Speaker 1: looking at it at as humans. They can't do it.
Speaker 1: There's no nuance to it. It's not eight and a
Speaker 1: half million desperate people, you know what I mean. It's
Speaker 1: and they're not seeing it. It's not. This is not
Speaker 1: a half million people were maybe many of them need
Speaker 1: to take care of a sick child or having a
Speaker 1: parent they have to take care of. It's definitely the
Speaker 1: way they look at it. It definitely can't be someone
Speaker 1: who's living in a region where housing and food insecurity
Speaker 1: is like a real threat. It certainly isn't somebody who
Speaker 1: is going through an emotionally trying time because they've lost
Speaker 1: a lot of loved ones and a job and it's
Speaker 1: an omni crisis for this this person, because it's easier
Speaker 1: just to say, well, this number, this number equals problem solved.
Speaker 1: But that works only for a little bit, because now
Speaker 1: you're just seeing all of the blood and carnage that
Speaker 1: comes out of treating people like fucking numbers and not
Speaker 1: as human beings with the vidual needs that have to
Speaker 1: be taken into consideration. And it's not accurate, and and
Speaker 1: it's becoming less and less, so like on it could
Speaker 1: happen here the You're fellow Cool Zone media podcast Daily
Speaker 1: Show U a Lebron James. Yeah, Roberts are Lebron James, Okay,
Speaker 1: but they they interview to an economist who was saying
Speaker 1: that now that everything is fucked basically now that we
Speaker 1: are living in a you know, post normal world where
Speaker 1: like everything from temperatures to disease spread to you know,
Speaker 1: the the environment are no longer at a point of
Speaker 1: equilibrium that they call it, like they you need to
Speaker 1: be thinking about the economy as the way that like
Speaker 1: desert environmentalists think about the desert, which is like if
Speaker 1: you if you average the temperature of a desert, it's
Speaker 1: going to give you like seventy but that's because it
Speaker 1: drops to forty and then goes up to in the morning.
Speaker 1: But like economists are working on it from from an average,
Speaker 1: and it's just not gonna it's not going back to
Speaker 1: the average any anytime. So yeah, I think when I
Speaker 1: when I another one in my past life, when I
Speaker 1: when I was teaching high school, I thought I didn't
Speaker 1: like this. The school was like rice smack dab in
Speaker 1: between sort of three different like hoods. And there was
Speaker 1: a little boys and girls club that was like across
Speaker 1: the street from the school. And I remember my the
Speaker 1: administration put together this total like tutoring in after school program.
Speaker 1: They I mean, boy, when I tell you, they was
Speaker 1: breaking their arms, patting themselves on the back with this
Speaker 1: uh this little after school program. They did this enrichment
Speaker 1: for these you know, these inner city kids who you
Speaker 1: know need these programs and for the life of them.
Speaker 1: I remember sitting in this meeting me and that I
Speaker 1: remember the vice principle was used from content. So we
Speaker 1: we used to just look at each other during these
Speaker 1: meetings and just be like, what what are y'all doing?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, But they don't know where
Speaker 1: they are right, so they would make yes they're and
Speaker 1: just just so confused. I remember these people just being
Speaker 1: so befuddled as to why students that they thought needed
Speaker 1: this wouldn't come. Why don't they in that? And I'm
Speaker 1: like part of the town, like you, I don't even
Speaker 1: have to finish it. I don't even have to finish it.
Speaker 1: See what I'm saying. They're like, it's there for them.
Speaker 1: It's like you, like you, Okay, you're trying to ask
Speaker 1: this kid to walk through Flujah. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: to go to like like not like it's just just
Speaker 1: the fact that like I just don't understand why I
Speaker 1: have to tell you this. Like you work here, you're
Speaker 1: talking to the same students I'm talking to, Like I
Speaker 1: don't understand what you don't understand, Like what is you
Speaker 1: looking at? And like you said, you're looking at documents.
Speaker 1: You're saying, well, the average temperature seventy degrees And it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: it's you're distant for many of the students who would
Speaker 1: be it's easy to walk to I can't understand for snacks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, what does it mean to go on
Speaker 1: the other side of Hyde Park? Oh? I don't know,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And they're like, it's it's
Speaker 1: really yeah. And again it's because we don't have we're
Speaker 1: not taking into account people's humanity. We have people who
Speaker 1: look at human life, his facts and figures, and we
Speaker 1: just can't were It's just it's wild too, I think
Speaker 1: all of us, because even in the situation you're talking about,
Speaker 1: or we're talking about, if you speak to people and
Speaker 1: understand what the threat the threats are to their well being,
Speaker 1: then you can actually make a better decision rather than
Speaker 1: just like this brutal, fucking math of like the million people,
Speaker 1: no jobs, ten million jobs. Cut the fucking and let's
Speaker 1: see what happens. Because the first thing in this research
Speaker 1: that was done too, they said, when people's benefits get
Speaker 1: caught up, the first thing isn't that they go looking
Speaker 1: for a job. They start tightening up and they start
Speaker 1: spending less. That's what happened. That's the first thing. People
Speaker 1: do not go say, Okay, well, now I guess I'll
Speaker 1: take a job that will not acknowledge my offer me
Speaker 1: any dignity or anything, or acknowledge my humanity, and I'll
Speaker 1: go back to this old way. So yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: tough And then like and then I Also here I
Speaker 1: have people whom I know, we're like, well it's different,
Speaker 1: have a small business and things like that, Well then
Speaker 1: you should be advocating for medicare for all. Hell think
Speaker 1: about it aren't costs, Those aren't costs you would have
Speaker 1: to have anymore because that ship would be covered. And
Speaker 1: I know that's a huge that's a huge item of
Speaker 1: financial burden as an employer is providing those things. So
Speaker 1: then get on board because you can make it easier
Speaker 1: for yourself too. And I and I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: say it's all that simple, but we really need to
Speaker 1: begin to shift how we look at the most basic
Speaker 1: issues and and put humanity at the forefront or people's
Speaker 1: individual experience to understand how to give people the best
Speaker 1: outcomes with these policies. I love how you even add
Speaker 1: like just the this is in your own best interest situation.
Speaker 1: It's like if you got employees happy, people stick around,
Speaker 1: like I want you to like it here, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like so like I don't understand, Like
Speaker 1: that's to your benefit? You know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: like you said, when I think about like my assistant
Speaker 1: that you know I pay like I pay her what
Speaker 1: I pay her because I don't want her to leave.
Speaker 1: She good at her job. So I'm like, okay, well,
Speaker 1: what's it gonna take for you to be for you
Speaker 1: to have to go be somebody else's assistant to make
Speaker 1: ends me because I'm like, I can't afford that I
Speaker 1: need your attention, So I'm gonna pay you enough to
Speaker 1: make sure your attentions here. And if you say, if
Speaker 1: you tell me that's the problem, like, hey, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: need a little more. We're moving into this, then like,
Speaker 1: all right, let's figure it out, because I can't afford
Speaker 1: to lose you like it don't make I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: be like, well you should be lucky. I'm letting you
Speaker 1: like nah, Like even on a selfish situation, That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Even in my own self interest, it makes
Speaker 1: sense to be like, oh, you're telling me. You're telling
Speaker 1: me insurance is off my books. It's on the States books.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, I ain't got paid for it. Okay, cool,
Speaker 1: let's go. You know, like y'all they're tripping. Man, I
Speaker 1: don't understand why nobody. It just seems so logical, like
Speaker 1: you said, right, and it's and I think because we're
Speaker 1: we have so much propaganda that we're hit with constantly
Speaker 1: that it's it takes a lot of your time effort
Speaker 1: to even look past all that ship and try and
Speaker 1: see the things for what they are. And it's tough
Speaker 1: for a lot of people. But until we really get there,
Speaker 1: I mean, we're gonna just keep making the same mistakes.
Speaker 1: I mean that I will just say that it's you know,
Speaker 1: look at Jeff Bezos, like, you know, there there's the
Speaker 1: examples where it's better, it's more sustainable for society, But
Speaker 1: we also have a World's Richest Man that the last
Speaker 1: twenty five years have created whose primary innovation was treating
Speaker 1: people like ship. So like the the rewards are there
Speaker 1: for the people who do the short term thinking and
Speaker 1: just grind it until the wheels fall off and like,
Speaker 1: and then they get to go to space. And when
Speaker 1: they go to space, it gets covered five times as
Speaker 1: much as fucking climate change. So it's just it's it's
Speaker 1: a large social problem of like what what we reward
Speaker 1: with our attention and what we reward with like the
Speaker 1: the rewards in our in our culture. Yeah, we have
Speaker 1: to redefine what bolling is and bolling should just be
Speaker 1: providing for your community. That's you know, not exploiting the
Speaker 1: people that work for you so you can take off
Speaker 1: on a spaceship. That's yeah, that's like early two thousand's baling.
Speaker 1: And you know what, I think we don't we're not connecting,
Speaker 1: like how much, how much good comes out of people
Speaker 1: having empathy and that that is truly something that you know,
Speaker 1: I wish society we could reward people with more for
Speaker 1: having that the forefront of the things that they do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, let's take another quick break and we'll be
Speaker 1: right back. And we're back, and we're just talking to
Speaker 1: break them that out the creek. I've never heard a
Speaker 1: sound like that. His lies always contain big guys, like
Speaker 1: these generals, they're big and handsome. And they told me,
Speaker 1: they said, you're the greatest president since Washington maybe, And
Speaker 1: this one contained like big firefighters coming to sweep him
Speaker 1: off his feet. Huge huge, These firefighters were huge, and
Speaker 1: they whisked me out of there, took me to their place.
Speaker 1: And there's even a super cud of him talking about
Speaker 1: big strong guys. L the size of that guy, powerful guy.
Speaker 1: You know, I have a friend, big guy, one of
Speaker 1: the biggest in the world. That's some big people behind me.
Speaker 1: Guy big strong, big strong guy is big strong guy.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, so he's definitely like, yeah, sure
Speaker 1: he loves a friend, big guy, one of the biggest
Speaker 1: in the world, the biggest size of Christmas Hams. Did
Speaker 1: he did he say that Christmas Hams thing old? You
Speaker 1: know you're going to see his biceps. They were like
Speaker 1: they were like the kinds of chains they used to
Speaker 1: put on the side of navy battleships. So strong, so strong. Anyways,
Speaker 1: you think he I would love. I wonder if, like Loki,
Speaker 1: he's paid an artist to do like a like a
Speaker 1: romance novel cover with him being swept away by one
Speaker 1: of these like these big guys he's always talking about,
Speaker 1: you know, like a fabio esque just big chiseled guy.
Speaker 1: You should have seen him. He swept me away from
Speaker 1: the rebel. Really, it felt so safe in his arms.
Speaker 1: And that's how I want the country to feel with
Speaker 1: my new military plan. Just feel you're just tender and
Speaker 1: you're in the arms of a guy with biceps the
Speaker 1: side of Christmas Hams just as sticky, and you're like,
Speaker 1: how did you get the clothes in there? And the
Speaker 1: hatch work on the cut on the fat. He's really impressive.
Speaker 1: Al Right, well, I guess it shouldn't be surprising given
Speaker 1: who was elected president twice sixteen, that America hasn't been
Speaker 1: like super respectful classy when it comes to never forgetting
Speaker 1: nine eleven. So our writer j M kind of took
Speaker 1: a look back at you know, nine eleven, the national
Speaker 1: tragedy and merchandizing bonanza, and yeah, there's some wild ship
Speaker 1: in here. So there was a big run of coins
Speaker 1: that came out very early on. There's a medallion allegedly
Speaker 1: made from recycled steel from the World Trade Center that
Speaker 1: costs a mere thirty dollars and they this is you know, noble.
Speaker 1: They set aside five thousand to ten thousand medallions for
Speaker 1: the victims families at no charge. So like this kind yeah,
Speaker 1: so we we turned this murder scene into a neck
Speaker 1: chain for other people to buy. But here's for free
Speaker 1: one for you because it's such a terrible loss. So sorry.
Speaker 1: In two thousand four, there were coins supposedly minted from
Speaker 1: silver recovered ground zero, which I don't know from the
Speaker 1: pocket change of the victims. Like it wasn't there that
Speaker 1: like rumor that there was this like vault or something
Speaker 1: in the fucking basement. Oh some I just remember some
Speaker 1: weird folksy bullshit thing of like, you know, there was
Speaker 1: like a lot of precious medal in there too, But
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, it could be true, but
Speaker 1: maybe it was recovered. But I remember that was like
Speaker 1: a big like a ground zero three kings where they're
Speaker 1: going going in depending, Yeah, what part of the internet
Speaker 1: you were on at the time, right, So these they
Speaker 1: actually claimed were legally authorized silver dollars, which they weren't.
Speaker 1: They were actually made by a novelty company that also
Speaker 1: produced Harry Potter coins, which also not acceptable as legal
Speaker 1: tender as far as I know. And then in in eleven,
Speaker 1: the federal government started selling their own nine eleven commemorative
Speaker 1: coin for you gotta market up so that you know,
Speaker 1: you can take advantage of the fact that it's the
Speaker 1: real deal from the people who brought you nine eleven
Speaker 1: eleven coin. Sorry about our foreign policy, y'all. Here's a
Speaker 1: coin directed by m Night Shamalan, sponsored by night shanating
Speaker 1: who could say, no, what a specific number? Two? Why
Speaker 1: does it have to be fifty seven dollars? Like what
Speaker 1: is you know, is that the market number to make
Speaker 1: you feel like, oh, they were thinking about how value
Speaker 1: all that is. Probably they could have just had a hundred,
Speaker 1: but I think it's really probably worth close to fifty seven.
Speaker 1: The government is honest. There was a non coin related merchandise,
Speaker 1: the nine eleven coloring book for children, which you know
Speaker 1: there was for the ladies. I'm sure, yeah, that there
Speaker 1: was an image of Osama bin Laden being executed while
Speaker 1: cowering behind a woman in a Muslim his job, which
Speaker 1: is the text from the page. Yeah, so this is
Speaker 1: so funny. Man, Like they just basically turned never forget
Speaker 1: and to be like, never forget, we're now painting all
Speaker 1: people from the Middle East as evildoers. Never forget that
Speaker 1: the script we're sticking to now, Like it was never
Speaker 1: about the United States, because that's just this malleable concept
Speaker 1: that people bandy around so disingenuously to bolster whatever fucked
Speaker 1: up ideology they have. It's never about the actual country,
Speaker 1: just sort of saying, well, this is the thing you
Speaker 1: can't attack, so I'll put the country in front of
Speaker 1: me and then that will protect whatever nonsense I'm advocating for.
Speaker 1: Because it was like the other thing with the merchandise
Speaker 1: is I remember every TV show they were like doing
Speaker 1: stuff and people fucking wrapped up in the flag and
Speaker 1: ship and crying and they're like, I just feel so
Speaker 1: special to be part of this country. And it truly
Speaker 1: was put us in this error where you could not
Speaker 1: criticize the United States, like people who were on the
Speaker 1: news saying like, well, the reason people wanted to attack
Speaker 1: the United States is because of all the destabilizing activity
Speaker 1: that we do in the region that creates the hottest
Speaker 1: movements and things like that, and they're like they're vanished
Speaker 1: because you know, a fucking fighter jet is gonna like
Speaker 1: nut red, white, and blue over like a football game
Speaker 1: or some ship. I think a huge part of that is,
Speaker 1: like not that Americans aren't or some Americans aren't racist already,
Speaker 1: but I think to keep people obsessed with America, they
Speaker 1: have to convince everyone that the rest of the world
Speaker 1: isn't free and you're the only one that's free, and
Speaker 1: that's why you should be so proud, as opposed to
Speaker 1: like the reality, which is there's lots of places that
Speaker 1: you know, free healthcare and like when you have a baby,
Speaker 1: you can stay home with your baby and yeah, what's
Speaker 1: that place? Sounds scary? Yeah? Do they have challenge coins
Speaker 1: to commemorate their They don't have merch though, that's I mean,
Speaker 1: that's where they lose me. You know. It was also
Speaker 1: like one of the most lucrative kind of storylines that
Speaker 1: America has ever because, like after the Cold War, the
Speaker 1: military industrial complex didn't really know what to do with themselves,
Speaker 1: and then this gave them a new purpose. So they
Speaker 1: successfully cashed in. But it was generally like seen as
Speaker 1: not a great look when like Walmart recreated the towers
Speaker 1: out of cases of soda. Yeah, which is there? I
Speaker 1: think a lot of people have seen that picture. But
Speaker 1: you got the red, white, and blue with the pepsi,
Speaker 1: diet coke and coke cans, and then the towers are
Speaker 1: made of coke zero. And the thing is that people
Speaker 1: were mad that they were mixing pepsi and coke products.
Speaker 1: It was the should have done all pepsi because pepsi
Speaker 1: solves all of the world's injustices. Right, Yes, we've long
Speaker 1: said that. Yeah. Can you imagine if they had that
Speaker 1: same ad agency around nine eleven, if they were like
Speaker 1: with the Kendall Jenner, if they try to do something.
Speaker 1: It's like, Mohammed Ata here, I think you just want
Speaker 1: this pepsi sir. Yeah, yeah, she's a flight attendant. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah. I would have been United ninety
Speaker 1: three or whatever the funk and it would have been
Speaker 1: a pepsi at this. That's what this, again, is so
Speaker 1: weird about everything, is that there's not there's nothing, there's
Speaker 1: no sanctity to anything every because and I think that's
Speaker 1: really what all this reveals is there's nothing sacred in
Speaker 1: this country, absolutely fucking nothing, not even human life, because
Speaker 1: it'll just be a fucking merch display or a commemorative
Speaker 1: blanket or a coin because someone else doesn't give a fuck.
Speaker 1: They just know that they can use these events to
Speaker 1: make more money or more furious. So never forget. Nothing
Speaker 1: is sacred here. The nine eleven Museum is still open.
Speaker 1: The gift shop is still like putting out products like
Speaker 1: a he's cutting board, a nine eleven commemorative cheese tray
Speaker 1: where it's in the shape of the United States and
Speaker 1: their little hearts where the hijacked airplanes went down. So
Speaker 1: you know, there's something like meta about taking a knife
Speaker 1: to a board that the something about that this is
Speaker 1: I'm not sure who made it, but it was an
Speaker 1: official selection. They like the person who runs the museum's
Speaker 1: gift shop, which again, the nine I Love Museum maybe
Speaker 1: maybe shouldn't have a gift shop, but the person who
Speaker 1: runs was like, we're carefully selecting products to make sure
Speaker 1: they're tasteful, and yeah, and apparently this fell under that category.
Speaker 1: And it's also just kind of extra fucked up because
Speaker 1: the nin Love Museum also has unidentified remains on the
Speaker 1: premises of so like many relatives of it have actively
Speaker 1: protested just the idea of having fucking people selling mugs
Speaker 1: and t shirts and scarves wet boards yet because maybe
Speaker 1: that's some of them. They are pretty they do look
Speaker 1: pretty nice. Yeah, yeah, what do you what kind of
Speaker 1: fucking again, Like, there's so many things wrong with this
Speaker 1: cutting tray, cheeseboard, fucking sharkcou terrorism boards that they've got,
Speaker 1: but like, the only thing that this has it's a
Speaker 1: ceramic outline of the United States with just three fucking
Speaker 1: stars painted on like parts of the northeast. That's really
Speaker 1: so they've I'm sure they reappropriated some ceramic moons that
Speaker 1: all right, put stars there. It's nine eleven My next
Speaker 1: thing is, if you are putting this platter together, are
Speaker 1: you like really treating that section of the cheese board
Speaker 1: is sacred? You're not gonna lay a shipload of crackers
Speaker 1: and shipped on top of it and like honeycomb and
Speaker 1: further disrespect the matter. I just don't everything about it.
Speaker 1: Like I don't even know how you present it in
Speaker 1: a way that someone goes, oh my god, is this
Speaker 1: a nine eleven commemorat is that's so thoughtful of you?
Speaker 1: Like this is You're such an ace with the decor.
Speaker 1: You know, I love it, Thank you so much, and
Speaker 1: like yeah, and and these wine eleven glasses that you made,
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. I mean does have
Speaker 1: to exist, right, there has to be wine eleven at
Speaker 1: this point. I mean, haven't we reached eleven? You can't
Speaker 1: help but forget or something like that where it's like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, whine eleven. Never forget your corkscrew. There
Speaker 1: you go. The gift shop is still going today, selling
Speaker 1: everything from toy cars for sixty dollars that look like
Speaker 1: just twenty doll toy cars, but they have never forget
Speaker 1: written on the hood. And then there's also like a
Speaker 1: bunch of T shirts twenty years later, limited edition collection
Speaker 1: of just garbage. I just looked on say and there's
Speaker 1: some nine eleven like twenty years later. Never forget face masks,
Speaker 1: and I just don't think that the audience where never
Speaker 1: forget memorabilia and wears a mask ever overlap. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: kind of a wasteful product. Really. That's an interesting person though.
Speaker 1: I'd like, where's that New York Times profile. They're multifaceted,
Speaker 1: for sure, Yeah, but yeah, it's just I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's bad. So it's been twenty years. I mean Jesus,
Speaker 1: like it's it's been so long, and you think of
Speaker 1: how things have changed so drastically just in the last
Speaker 1: few years, but how we're still like really having a
Speaker 1: problem having a real again because America hates a reckoning,
Speaker 1: having a reckoning with this supposed war on terror and
Speaker 1: the amount of money that was just hissed away while
Speaker 1: everything just went by the wayside here in the country. Yea, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just I don't know. I'm I'm just
Speaker 1: thinking back with like how that fucking I remember the
Speaker 1: city in l A. People were so hopped up on
Speaker 1: that patriotism ship. It was fucking wild, Like every street
Speaker 1: turned into some like fucking jingle with It's just like
Speaker 1: everything was a parade suddenly, except for specific parts of
Speaker 1: the city. But yeah, like I just felt like everything
Speaker 1: else was just just this like weird fever dream that
Speaker 1: people went through in those first couple of years and
Speaker 1: like completely ignored what was actually at state. Yeah, hey,
Speaker 1: but the government knows what they're doing like that. All right,
Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for this week's weekly zeitguys, please
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