Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two oh one,
Speaker 1: Episode three of day lest production of I Heart Radio.
Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we take a deep dive
Speaker 1: into America's share consciousness. And Thursday September nine, my name's
Speaker 1: Jack O'Brien. A ka come a vaccine. Oh it's just
Speaker 1: not the same. It is ruined. Mike comes, not worth
Speaker 1: anything that is courtesy, and Christie, I'm Gucci man. We
Speaker 1: are sticking with the vaccinated come theme and I love it.
Speaker 1: I love it, man, keep them coming. I am thrilled
Speaker 1: to be joined as always by my co host, Mr
Speaker 1: Miles grass so ely in two pieces racists on life support,
Speaker 1: mention to not working, won't wear a mask, don't care
Speaker 1: for its not breathing, fucking metal glass, got just ripped
Speaker 1: the shreds in Virginia. Good goodbye, good at that racist
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Speaker 1: we are thrilled. I dare say to be joined in
Speaker 1: our third seat by very talented writer, humorist and podcast
Speaker 1: host whose work you've seen in the Los Angeles Times,
Speaker 1: The Guardian, The New Yorker, New York Magazine If You're
Speaker 1: very well read. He was the co host of the
Speaker 1: Ringers wrestling podcast mass Man Show Uh and went on
Speaker 1: to work with ww e's writing staff, which makes him
Speaker 1: I think our most refined expert on the world of
Speaker 1: pro wrestling, possibly of our illustrious roster of regular guests.
Speaker 1: He currently co hosts the podcast Galaxy Brains along with
Speaker 1: Jonah Red. Please welcome, the hilarious, the fashionable, the brilliant, chilling. Thanks,
Speaker 1: that's a really cool intro. I always coment on the
Speaker 1: intro when they come on this show, and this is
Speaker 1: one of the best. Thank you, fellas. I feel like
Speaker 1: it was very complimentary and it was good to be best.
Speaker 1: We're just that it's just a mirror, baby. I didn't
Speaker 1: think I could dress up more last week or last
Speaker 1: time I was on here, last week, last time I
Speaker 1: was on the show. Today, I'm just wearing my Arsenal shirt.
Speaker 1: Pull it off of us. Somebody's fashionable, feeling real low
Speaker 1: to fucking fools who ruined their life taking the shittiest
Speaker 1: team possible. Are you guys? Is this a new coach
Speaker 1: this season? I feel like I've we've had the same
Speaker 1: coach for the same clown eighteen months. No good. It
Speaker 1: seems like ever since you guys switched coaches that was
Speaker 1: kind of as we And the problem was we had
Speaker 1: a coach who was like watching over the team for
Speaker 1: like twenty years consistency, and whenever you switched it out,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be chaos because it's and also the cronky
Speaker 1: that's the problems are bad. I look at this. I
Speaker 1: was telling somebody, can you believe that you guys spend
Speaker 1: someone's giving me ship? You spend all this money over
Speaker 1: the summer, And I said, look, we're spending players that
Speaker 1: are gonna fucking potentially give us good money, all a
Speaker 1: good value if we transfer them and have a nice
Speaker 1: solid young core to like maneuver with no matter who
Speaker 1: the manager is. But more than that, the issue that
Speaker 1: I see it's like bar rescue. It's not that the
Speaker 1: players you know, or the bar to you know, the
Speaker 1: bar rescue. It's not the staff's fault or the manager's fault.
Speaker 1: Usually look at the owner. What's the owner fucking doing?
Speaker 1: Because that's usually where the rot is coming from. And
Speaker 1: when the cronky's it's all fucking coming from there. They
Speaker 1: just don't give a fuck. Yeah, we didn't get there
Speaker 1: as a manager. Yeah exactly. You know what will make
Speaker 1: them work if you're stopped paying him wages because they're dogs?
Speaker 1: Like did you see him on Laura Ingram Show, Dave No,
Speaker 1: I didn't know he was one of those. He said, yeah,
Speaker 1: with with unemployment benefits. He said, a hungry dog is obedient.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about workers, game boy fundamental differences and how
Speaker 1: we see human existence. I guess, yeah, exactly, you're a dog. Yep.
Speaker 1: I value all people except for John Taffer. I guess
Speaker 1: he's prick. But yeah, man, a bad owner is worse
Speaker 1: than a bad anything because that just doesn't go away.
Speaker 1: I think of like how long Raiders fans are hated.
Speaker 1: Al Davis fans have been struggling for decades, and now
Speaker 1: Makers fans have the best owner in sports, and that's
Speaker 1: why we're consistently good. Yeah. And the years where we
Speaker 1: were bad, we had her stupid brother in charge, right
Speaker 1: Washington Football team yep? Yeah, the listening on and on, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sure like, yeah, the people that that's like what
Speaker 1: people of the world unite to overthrow the owners of
Speaker 1: their favorite teams. Yeah, a better way. Yeah, we should
Speaker 1: own all of our our favorite sports teams. They should
Speaker 1: be owned by the base. Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, and they've
Speaker 1: been consistently good for a long time. Yeah, who the guests.
Speaker 1: If you just you know, empower the people who care
Speaker 1: the most, things will happen that are good. Because I
Speaker 1: guess it's either that model or the galacticos like Yankees model,
Speaker 1: which is like, I'll make your rein on everybody and
Speaker 1: we'll just buy up the best talent. That's how we'll
Speaker 1: make it work. But that's yeah, realistic for most people
Speaker 1: unless your cutter, right, Yes, exactly. All right, Dave, we're
Speaker 1: going to get to know you a little bit better
Speaker 1: in a moment. First, just to run down to some
Speaker 1: of the things we're talking about today. We're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about how the GOP is dealing with their January six commission.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about Joe Rogan back at it again. Baby,
Speaker 1: he's recovered from COVID and he's got some thoughts on
Speaker 1: what cured him and it is not the f d
Speaker 1: A approved proven treatment, And yeah, we'll leave it there.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about what Donald Trump, the true President, is
Speaker 1: going to be doing On nine eleven, we'll talk about
Speaker 1: Andre three thousands, all that, plenty more. But first, Dave,
Speaker 1: what is something from your search history? Well, I'm glad
Speaker 1: you asked, because it's something we've talked about already off Mike,
Speaker 1: and that is the war on TikTok over skinny jeans
Speaker 1: at Google TikTok skinny jeans. Because I was researching an article,
Speaker 1: column and writing for The l A Times about the
Speaker 1: backlash against skinny jeans from Generation Z or Gen Z
Speaker 1: or Zoomers or whatever you want to call them. I
Speaker 1: was shocked to find how vociferous these people are about
Speaker 1: skinny jeans being bad. Because skinny jeans for those who
Speaker 1: grew up in the nineties two thousands, you know, the Millennials,
Speaker 1: that those were the most important garments you could purchase.
Speaker 1: But we were all wearing skinny jeans, and all of
Speaker 1: our favorite celebrities were wearing really tight clothes for a
Speaker 1: long time. And uh yeah, now people are like, no, man,
Speaker 1: you gotta blow those pants out. Need I need space
Speaker 1: to grow, I need to be able to billow when
Speaker 1: I walk, And uh that's what That's why I wrote
Speaker 1: this pieces because I really wanted to express my joy
Speaker 1: as a millennial at being freed from the tyranny of
Speaker 1: this bullshit of these incredibly snug pants that no one
Speaker 1: actually fits into. No, And I was telling you before,
Speaker 1: I was like, I could never even find a pair
Speaker 1: of skinny jeans that could fit me because I'm just
Speaker 1: I have, like are just massive eyes. I could I
Speaker 1: couldn't wear them unless I would probably have needed like
Speaker 1: a custom made pair of jeans that could have conformed
Speaker 1: to my physiology to even have the look of a
Speaker 1: skinny jean. And now, like, whenever I like, if I
Speaker 1: have anything that's remotely like a skinny you know, I'm like, God,
Speaker 1: it's just got gotta have a lot of elastic in it, exactly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta just basically put a rubber band in that ship.
Speaker 1: Let me go to down. Now. Pants are a little
Speaker 1: a little looser, a little wider. Elastic waist bands are
Speaker 1: way more popular. And for me personally, I have more
Speaker 1: means than I ever have my entire life. I mean,
Speaker 1: I better. I'm almost forty years old, for fox sake,
Speaker 1: so I better be able to like buy stuff now.
Speaker 1: And now I can go get stuff tailored. I can
Speaker 1: go take a pair of Tom Ford tuxedo pants that
Speaker 1: I bought from the real reel and get those tailored
Speaker 1: to fit me properly. That is not something that I
Speaker 1: could do When I was in college and every single
Speaker 1: place you'd go to buy clothes, the pants are are
Speaker 1: skin type. Right. Have you gotten a pair of jeans tailored?
Speaker 1: Is that even a thing that's possible? No? No, I
Speaker 1: mean you can. I've never done it before because I'm
Speaker 1: not a jean guy. I remember was so hyped on
Speaker 1: getting these like black Supreme jeans like fifty years ago,
Speaker 1: and the only ones I could yet were like two
Speaker 1: sides is too big. So I had to take them
Speaker 1: to a tailor to adjust them to fit me because
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like fucking maybe I took
Speaker 1: an l but like buying a gene like jeans I
Speaker 1: couldn't fit into. But you know, for forty bucks, they
Speaker 1: did it. They did it right. Always buy bigger, never smaller,
Speaker 1: because at least you know in your twenties you can
Speaker 1: expect you're gonna get bigger. I guess now you can
Speaker 1: think no matter what, you can expect, you're gonna get bigger,
Speaker 1: You're gonna fill out, You're gonna exercise last you're gonna
Speaker 1: eat more, you're gonna be constantly full of stress, you're
Speaker 1: not sleeping well. So if you buy a pair of
Speaker 1: Supreme Jenes today and you're if you're in your twenties
Speaker 1: or early thirties, just hold on, let it ride. Those
Speaker 1: are gonna be harry. Those classic when you had enough
Speaker 1: to fit into them. I have a pair of I'm
Speaker 1: sitting on that I haven't tailored from fucking ten years ago.
Speaker 1: There you go, dude, that's that's basically found money. That's
Speaker 1: like fill in your pocket now. I just want to
Speaker 1: I just want to clarify, like, there's nothing wrong with,
Speaker 1: you know, being a bigger person. I'm certainly a bigger
Speaker 1: person than I have been in the past. And I
Speaker 1: always encourage people to dress comfortably and to feel comfortable
Speaker 1: and to feel good about themselves and their bodies. Don't
Speaker 1: try to conform to some bullshit stereotype. That's what I
Speaker 1: hate about skinny jeans is that they forced people into
Speaker 1: clothes that didn't fit them, that made them feel bad
Speaker 1: about themselves, and it's gotta go. The only thing I
Speaker 1: liked about skinny jeans is that it made it easier
Speaker 1: to like kind of show off the shoe that you're wearing.
Speaker 1: It was like, yeah, you could show off the pipe it.
Speaker 1: You know, you guys talking about the Reuters arrived road over?
Speaker 1: What is uh? What something you think is overrated? I
Speaker 1: always have a hard time with this when I come
Speaker 1: on this show, But this is the one week one
Speaker 1: episode I've been on where I like really prepared and
Speaker 1: the thing I find the most over radio right now
Speaker 1: is a letter writing. There are all kinds of people
Speaker 1: who are like, oh, you know, it'd be cool is
Speaker 1: to write my my sister a letter, or my my
Speaker 1: mom and dad letters. Like I'm gonna sit down with
Speaker 1: a piece of paper in a bandon, I'm gonna write
Speaker 1: a letter. Like why you're just gonna cramp your hand,
Speaker 1: your poor hand, he's gonna cramp up. You're wasting paper.
Speaker 1: You have to then get a stamp, and then you
Speaker 1: have to go to the post office, or you have
Speaker 1: to go to the whatever, like the mailbox in your
Speaker 1: building or your house. It's just too much work for what.
Speaker 1: Someone's gonna crumple it up and throw it the fucking trash.
Speaker 1: Who saves letters? Nobody saves letters except for characters and
Speaker 1: Jane Austin novels like get out of Here with this
Speaker 1: letter right, people in like love after lock Up, and
Speaker 1: I have all the letters he sent me from the inside. Yeah.
Speaker 1: He who saves letters or saved letters suck at Charles Manson,
Speaker 1: there's Scott Peterson. Shall I continue? Who does? Who? Is it?
Speaker 1: For me? Because I try and look at it practically.
Speaker 1: The reason I don't write letters is because I have
Speaker 1: much quicker ways to communicate with people, And I guess,
Speaker 1: I don't see. I'm not too attached to like I
Speaker 1: guess the whimsical or the you know, the value that
Speaker 1: makes letter writing sort of attractive, But I don't know. Also,
Speaker 1: like I just I write big block letters and I'll
Speaker 1: fill up a page in like three sentences. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: my handwriting is fucking poor. But my mother has beautiful handwriting,
Speaker 1: and she'll like sent her letters with like perfew someone
Speaker 1: I'm like Bob, who gives a fuck? Just an email
Speaker 1: type it, text me, just don't call me because they
Speaker 1: don't have time to talk. Don't verbally speak to me,
Speaker 1: whatever you could do. Efficient conversation is more important than
Speaker 1: good conversation. In my opinion, what's going to be our
Speaker 1: letter writing? Because I can see why your mother would
Speaker 1: say email she loves it because my same Like I
Speaker 1: look at my my parents, my grandmother she had fucking
Speaker 1: beautiful handwriting, like in a way that I was like,
Speaker 1: I get it. This is like graffiti for you know
Speaker 1: people at home, like they're like, let me throw up
Speaker 1: this beautiful letter. But I'm trying to think of what
Speaker 1: our dated sort of mode of communication that will insist
Speaker 1: on the people like we're off that well, we're all
Speaker 1: meeting in the metaverse. Ho. I mean, I think there's
Speaker 1: like a classiness, vinier to letter writing that like still
Speaker 1: persists with some young people like that it's like artisanal emails,
Speaker 1: that's email, thank you note. But yeah, there is something
Speaker 1: about getting a nice handwritten note, you know, after the fact,
Speaker 1: as a gesture I see the value, and maybe it's
Speaker 1: like as a gesture of something like, oh wow, look
Speaker 1: at that. That's handwriting. That's a little more hard. Go
Speaker 1: to Hallmark and get me a car, go Papyrus if
Speaker 1: that's will exists, give me a greeting card, thanks, signed whoever. Miles, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't need you to write a fucking tone about
Speaker 1: how great my wedding was. Just get out of here,
Speaker 1: do you feel pressured to then return. It is that pets.
Speaker 1: Of course, you have essentially given me extra work. Yeah,
Speaker 1: by doing the work yourself, you have forced me to
Speaker 1: give you the labor that you have so graciously bestowed
Speaker 1: upon me. No, thank you. If I don't do it,
Speaker 1: then I'm the bad guy. And in a sense it's
Speaker 1: able is m because I do not have the ability
Speaker 1: to write. My handwriting fucking sucks on my hand. It
Speaker 1: it's like out of it. So it's like they're wagging
Speaker 1: in my face their ability to write beautifully, and it's
Speaker 1: just they don't understand what what it would be like
Speaker 1: if I tried to write them back. It would be
Speaker 1: an ordeal for both of us. I think our version
Speaker 1: of it, our generation's version of this sort of artisan
Speaker 1: little horseshit is a o ll instant messenger. You know,
Speaker 1: it's all yeah, it's already dead, but we're like, I'll
Speaker 1: remember when you come home from school and you just
Speaker 1: like talk all night with like your crush and you send,
Speaker 1: you know, little emojis that weren't actually emojis because you
Speaker 1: had to use like a colon and parentheses to make
Speaker 1: a smiley face. Remember that it sucked. It was not
Speaker 1: that great. It was it was fine. It was a
Speaker 1: motive communication. That's it. I don't see anything like cool
Speaker 1: about it. Oh sho are you playing the sound? I
Speaker 1: was like what, Oh my god, Wow, I am about
Speaker 1: to pop out of my trousers so exciting. I know
Speaker 1: you hit enough, smarter child and saying hey when what
Speaker 1: what time? Is a Mortal Kombat plane at the AMC
Speaker 1: North six? Yeah? Where are we? Where are we riding
Speaker 1: to tonight? Boys? Or just like flirting with a girl
Speaker 1: all night and having like a really intense conversation that
Speaker 1: absolutely nothing. Oh boy, I think he really likes me.
Speaker 1: Oh I wonder what it's gonna be, Like it's cool tomorrow,
Speaker 1: which is so, which I guess makes sense why Like
Speaker 1: on like app dating is so it has like kind
Speaker 1: of similar energy, but most people don't have the same
Speaker 1: passion for it like we did a I am because
Speaker 1: a lot of people like it's just like I'm dating
Speaker 1: over text. I'm like that is pretty much the only
Speaker 1: way I was communicating with a certain point. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: weren't allowed to have phones in our rooms, and we
Speaker 1: had cell phones, but like they weren't we we didn't
Speaker 1: have um, you know, iPhones at the time, so it
Speaker 1: was just like, well, we's get on AIM and we'll
Speaker 1: figure it out. Get on NAIM and just have very
Speaker 1: lewd conversations over text in someone's family room. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: computer station killed lord. Yeah. The computer was just like
Speaker 1: riddled with viruses and all kinds of horrible things were
Speaker 1: being said. Kind of like now, I guess ye, just
Speaker 1: like a test run for the Internet pretty much. What
Speaker 1: is something you think is under R and B legend
Speaker 1: British R and B legend. Craig David, m M. Have
Speaker 1: you guys listened to the song seven Days recently? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Slaps man, It's so good, that's all I'm gonna say.
Speaker 1: I love Craig David that song in particular. I guess
Speaker 1: this is kind of the opposite of what I said
Speaker 1: was overrated, because this is nostalgia for me. I think
Speaker 1: about like middle school dances, in high school dances and
Speaker 1: this song playing. M If you haven't ever heard this song,
Speaker 1: because you're incredibly young and you don't remember this was
Speaker 1: This was a radio hit, This was on MTV all
Speaker 1: the time. Craig David had hair that looked like it
Speaker 1: was painted on, because that was the style back then.
Speaker 1: It's like black men with hair that looked fake and
Speaker 1: really really well groomed facial hair. Yeah, that kind of
Speaker 1: like Lithario sort of vibe those edge ups, you know,
Speaker 1: like John b had one to like, oh his beardline.
Speaker 1: And when I look at Craig David, now I'm like,
Speaker 1: you look like Lloyd Banks mixed with Matt Barnes. But
Speaker 1: you know, like, yeah, but he had swag in the day.
Speaker 1: He had swag his album. It was off his solo album,
Speaker 1: solo debut album, Born to Do It. That's right. I
Speaker 1: love that. Times of that title tell me everything I
Speaker 1: need to know in the title of this album, what
Speaker 1: were you born to do with my friend? That's right?
Speaker 1: I mean film me in as another, you know, as
Speaker 1: another j Craig David banger. There was one getting Caught
Speaker 1: when I was really into that show. People just do
Speaker 1: nothing Like they were doing this thing on the BBC
Speaker 1: where they would do like these garage takeovers on BBC
Speaker 1: Extra and they would have all these like garage mcs
Speaker 1: coming out and like spitting, and they had Craig David
Speaker 1: come out and he sunk, he sang film, he started rapping,
Speaker 1: and he actually was kind of nice with it, and
Speaker 1: then he started singing film me in over the Justin
Speaker 1: Bieber or like where are you now? Beat and like
Speaker 1: he kind of did a remix and I was like, oh, ship,
Speaker 1: this ship goes okay, Craig David. Yeah, he's still a
Speaker 1: superstar in the UK. Yeah, he hasn't fallen off at all,
Speaker 1: but here he's just been kind of lost to time
Speaker 1: sadly mm hmm. And can you fill me in? Is
Speaker 1: does not appear to be a song about getting pegged
Speaker 1: or asking to get pegged. Every song is actually about
Speaker 1: that peep down. I mean, if you really look at
Speaker 1: the lyrics, I mean, you know, can you fill me in?
Speaker 1: Come on? And he starts with what you want? What
Speaker 1: you want me to do? Yeah? Can you come? Yeah?
Speaker 1: He was he was born to do it. Look, it's
Speaker 1: all there. Come on, you need a map to figure
Speaker 1: out what the funk he's talking about. Okay. I was
Speaker 1: taking this girl next door when it passed, she posted,
Speaker 1: Hey boy, come on right around. Do you know what
Speaker 1: I mean for Peggy? Come ready to around the corner?
Speaker 1: You know? Yeah, you got the blind ready dressed in
Speaker 1: a long black satin and lace to the floor. So
Speaker 1: I went in. Then we sat down, started kissing Caress
Speaker 1: and told me about Jacuzzi. Sounded interesting, so we jumped
Speaker 1: right in. I mean into what exactly we'll look into it. Listen,
Speaker 1: it's no laughing matter. Pegging is a is a cool thing.
Speaker 1: It's no laughing matter. And yet I'm laughing. I'm sorry
Speaker 1: with continuation from that, Dell Curry, we were talking about
Speaker 1: already for being out here. They need to make that
Speaker 1: threaten to a movie. Enough with the stuff makes that
Speaker 1: into a movie. Yeah, what this man went through? You
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Oh already, Yeah, like a rom com.
Speaker 1: We'll get Jordan during that. I mean, crab leg was
Speaker 1: ice coffee, tem percent bap. It's a very vivid somebody
Speaker 1: I keep saying, somebody needs to hired that guys. Somebody
Speaker 1: has hired that guy or whoever wrote that, right, those
Speaker 1: brilliant Alright, let's take a quick break. We'll come right back,
Speaker 1: and we're back. And yeah, So the Republicans are, you know,
Speaker 1: taking the January six, you know investigation that they're doing
Speaker 1: their separate one about as seriously as you would expect
Speaker 1: them to. But they were not too long ago talking
Speaker 1: about how they were they were here to uh find justice,
Speaker 1: bring bring justice. Duke Kevin McCarthy pulled up. He said,
Speaker 1: I don't need the Bipartisan Commission, even though that would
Speaker 1: have given us a lot more room to funk around
Speaker 1: and you know, alter the course of the investigation. We
Speaker 1: don't need it because we will do our own. We'll
Speaker 1: do our own. Well, it looks like they aren't doing
Speaker 1: anything at all because it's been a long time and
Speaker 1: we haven't seen anything meaningful in regards to any kind
Speaker 1: of investigation, aside from the fact that they seem to
Speaker 1: be like, we gotta know what happened with the Capital Police.
Speaker 1: Why were they so ill prepared? And I think that
Speaker 1: was just because they knew that was a way they
Speaker 1: could eventually put like Nancy Pelosi into focus. So I
Speaker 1: just this couple of things that there are a lot
Speaker 1: of people on the hiller, things like, look, the whole
Speaker 1: thing is, none of these people want to fucking engage
Speaker 1: in a real investigation because all growths are going to
Speaker 1: lead back to them or Trump. It's not gonna end
Speaker 1: up being Antifa and the fucking you know, ghosts of
Speaker 1: you know, murdered black men who you know, took over
Speaker 1: people's bodies to take over the capital. Yeah, right, because
Speaker 1: a bunch of dudes of the hooks for hands are
Speaker 1: like fuck America, right, And like they said, one anonymous
Speaker 1: Republican aid said, quote, none of us want this to
Speaker 1: be a priority. I don't think there's any member that
Speaker 1: wants to serve on this committee who said that this
Speaker 1: is a Republican aid you know who's just off the record.
Speaker 1: They're like, this is just it's radioactive. It's like one
Speaker 1: of these things that Repolicans have to do where they
Speaker 1: have to have the appearance like they aren't just here
Speaker 1: for the absolute like just deterioration of the country and
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, we got to look into that, but
Speaker 1: we can't because it's all it's all theater. It's all
Speaker 1: a way to deflect, to delegitimize the actual investigation, the
Speaker 1: actual hearings, to say, well we didn't participate, Well what
Speaker 1: do you do instead? Oh? Nothing, But it was it's
Speaker 1: a sham anyway, Like they don't there's nothing that they
Speaker 1: can get out of this, as you said, like it's
Speaker 1: even if they were to try to do something and
Speaker 1: like bring out experts who were on their side, it
Speaker 1: would eventually bite them the ass. So they're just gonna
Speaker 1: run out the clock and hope that they win the
Speaker 1: Senate back. Well, I think they're actually so it seems
Speaker 1: like their strategy is going to be too like dig
Speaker 1: in at least some of them are digging in and
Speaker 1: being like the people who got arrested, our political prisoners,
Speaker 1: so just like basically doing doing the most like them
Speaker 1: because performed they say. You know, in this article in
Speaker 1: the Daily Beast are talking about how the especially the
Speaker 1: political prisoner angle, is a good talking point for someone
Speaker 1: running for office because it doesn't necessarily you know it,
Speaker 1: it helps make them look like they're still on their side,
Speaker 1: and even if maybe they didn't vote to overturn the election,
Speaker 1: By calling those people political prisoners, it's sort of like
Speaker 1: realigns them to be like, no, like I get it.
Speaker 1: You know, maybe I wasn't doing the things that you
Speaker 1: were demanding of me, but I will, I will. We
Speaker 1: will miscategorize them as political prisoners so show you I
Speaker 1: understand the oppression that's happening. Yeah, it's I mean, it's
Speaker 1: it's all designed to shore up their base going into
Speaker 1: the midterms and in an attempt to win back the House,
Speaker 1: which would then kill these investigations. M that is of course,
Speaker 1: something we don't want to happen, and you have to
Speaker 1: hope that turnout is the way that it needs to
Speaker 1: be for these elections to swing the right way, because
Speaker 1: there's certainly are not gonna do anything to come back
Speaker 1: to voter suppression aside and being like, hey man, I
Speaker 1: guess activists just gotta work harder. Huh. Yeah, that's the escalation.
Speaker 1: It's been an escalation and it will continue, like they
Speaker 1: will pass laws and then the other side will say,
Speaker 1: all right, here's here's the loopholes around these laws, and
Speaker 1: here's how we're going to make sure that we can
Speaker 1: bypass these things. But that's it's a war of attrition
Speaker 1: because it's just going to continue happening, you know, and
Speaker 1: then people are going to feel disenfranchised and things are
Speaker 1: going to get ugly. Yeah, I mean what happens when
Speaker 1: people were truly just are like all of this, like
Speaker 1: at some point in helping supporting these people, these clowns
Speaker 1: who are moving out of snails pace for just the
Speaker 1: theater of it all. Yeah, to where of attrition where
Speaker 1: the Democrats are not doing the things they need to
Speaker 1: do to like they're they're not fighting back, they're just
Speaker 1: kind of letting them make these changes and then well,
Speaker 1: I mean, I want to give a lot of credit
Speaker 1: to the Texas Democrats in their state legislature doing what
Speaker 1: they could. Eventually it was going to pass, but they
Speaker 1: were able to forestall it as long as they could,
Speaker 1: and they drew a lot of attention to the issue.
Speaker 1: That's the best they could have done. The thing that
Speaker 1: is really problematic is that we can't get any sort
Speaker 1: of voter right legislation passed Congress. Yeah, because the most
Speaker 1: that happens, all this attentions brought and then all we
Speaker 1: hear is Chuck Schumer be like, yeah, we really got
Speaker 1: to figure out the filipbuster. Huh yeah, well what are
Speaker 1: we gonna do? Uh text uh Schumer to two seven
Speaker 1: and pledge to pay ten dollars so that we can
Speaker 1: fix the filipbuster. That's all. It's all just campaign finance.
Speaker 1: It's just how do we get more money out of
Speaker 1: these people? How do we dupe these rubes into paying
Speaker 1: us more money? That's all it is. And they don't
Speaker 1: care if anything changes. They just want your money. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: it's just easy fundraising, know what I mean, Because then
Speaker 1: you don't have to go on the road to actually
Speaker 1: do a lot of fundraising, or maybe the lobbyists aren't
Speaker 1: packaging your funds well enough for you. You know, then
Speaker 1: just do send a couple of emails, get move on
Speaker 1: on the case. Every fucking email I get is this
Speaker 1: is the end of the world, Dave, this is it world.
Speaker 1: Can I count on you to stand up for democracy?
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, am I the fucking president? I'm sorry, am
Speaker 1: I the funk? Am I the majority leader in the Senate?
Speaker 1: Five dollars is gonna do? What? Where is that five
Speaker 1: dollars gonna go? Huh? Want my only what is gonna
Speaker 1: be for? Send me that clip of Chuck Schumer acting
Speaker 1: like Tony Soprano, acting like get out there and cracks
Speaker 1: some fucking skulls to get these bill, this bill a
Speaker 1: buster reform pass, because that's not the energy they have
Speaker 1: at all. It's just it's just like he's just sort
Speaker 1: of like, hey, you better not, don't don't do that,
Speaker 1: don't do that, and it's like okay, but they don't
Speaker 1: give a fuck. And then and then you have people
Speaker 1: in the Senate like Diane Feinstein who are very clearly
Speaker 1: incognitive declined, and people have said like, yeah, she's pretty like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, she has a hard time remembering stuff,
Speaker 1: and we're all just like, Okay, that's fine. So the
Speaker 1: governor of California, Gavin Newsom, is being recalled and might
Speaker 1: be replaced before she dies, would she will sooner than later.
Speaker 1: I think I've talked about this on this show before,
Speaker 1: but the greatest problem with our society is that people
Speaker 1: refuse to retire. And I'm talking about rich people, not
Speaker 1: not normal people. Normal people are like, yeah, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go to Cancun, I'm gonna I'm gonna mow my lawn
Speaker 1: every morning, drinking iced tea, watch Jeopardy, and even if
Speaker 1: you even can retire, exactly if you can, if you're
Speaker 1: if you're able to financially. But these motherfuckers are just like,
Speaker 1: I refuse to quit doing my very high paying, powerful job.
Speaker 1: If it's you know, a Supreme Court justice, it's if
Speaker 1: it's a senator, if it's it's the Speaker of the House.
Speaker 1: None of these people have any inst and stepping aside
Speaker 1: for the good of the country none because it's not
Speaker 1: their first priority. And Republicans are taking advantage of that.
Speaker 1: All of those old bastards have stepped aside, or if
Speaker 1: you're Mitch McConnell, like you've just throw up your hands
Speaker 1: and say, well, I mean this is this is the party.
Speaker 1: I support the party, this is what I do. And
Speaker 1: then all of these ghoules, these very young googles like
Speaker 1: Madison Cawthorne, I'm hopping up out of nowhere, Matt Gates,
Speaker 1: Marjorie Taylor Green, all of these younger people who are
Speaker 1: amassing power, amassing political influence, and amassing support. Every single day,
Speaker 1: they're on Fox News all the time. They're constantly being
Speaker 1: puffed up by the establishment of the Republican Party. And
Speaker 1: the Democrats are like, Ayoc, I simply don't agree with
Speaker 1: her because she's a socialist or elon Omar is a Muslim,
Speaker 1: and so we need her to back Israel and denounce
Speaker 1: the PLO or something. You know. The leaves said the
Speaker 1: F word. I mean, please everyone, let's not consider them.
Speaker 1: And like there's there's a lot of energy there with
Speaker 1: a lot of these younger people coming in, because I
Speaker 1: didn't see anyone except for Corey Bush really make a
Speaker 1: fucking stink about the eviction moratory amending. And she had
Speaker 1: to really, you know, to do what she knew how
Speaker 1: to do as an organizer and activist and just said,
Speaker 1: fucking I'm gonna sleep on the steps if they don't
Speaker 1: we understand what's at stake here because everyone knows the
Speaker 1: REALIZI to go on break and yeah we Then I
Speaker 1: think the media doesn't do a good job of, you know,
Speaker 1: giving these younger politicians the kind of airtime and exposure
Speaker 1: that they could because you can see it on Fox.
Speaker 1: They'll they'll put all of these younger folks on TV
Speaker 1: and what they don't they don't care. As long as
Speaker 1: you're a good SoundBite, they'll put you on TV. But
Speaker 1: MSNBC is propaganda for various parts, and we don't have
Speaker 1: to talk about that. But you know, other platforms are
Speaker 1: not engaging with these people. They're not putting these people
Speaker 1: front center, they're not putting their issues front and center.
Speaker 1: But if Matt Gates says something ludicrous about you know,
Speaker 1: America being under attack from Antifa, that's that's front page news.
Speaker 1: That's that's news. You know, it trends on Twitter. All
Speaker 1: of these things that are incredibly unhelpful, but helped him
Speaker 1: to get his message out and to launder his image
Speaker 1: when he is under investigation, and yet he is still
Speaker 1: in in office, he is still treated as a legitimate politician.
Speaker 1: I can't speak to why the media is so fascinated
Speaker 1: by young Republicans and this idea of you know, the
Speaker 1: outrageous things that they say, but they are and they
Speaker 1: are so concerned with, you know, kind of like entrarianism
Speaker 1: when it comes to any sort of liberal idea, any
Speaker 1: sort of real liberal idea, because it takes, because it
Speaker 1: takes the position that they're sort of like, this liberal
Speaker 1: neoliberal ideology that they subscribe to is the default truth,
Speaker 1: and there's nothing beyond that that could possibly improve it.
Speaker 1: So they're not interested in anything that would augment policies
Speaker 1: or makes things more inclusive. So they're more interested in
Speaker 1: just defending the position. And the best fodder for that
Speaker 1: is someone on the right saying something ignorant, and that's
Speaker 1: the airtime. Because it's surely not going to be someone
Speaker 1: who comes on with a very good plan for bail
Speaker 1: reform or a really good plan for how we can
Speaker 1: like you know, create more equitable housing that might actually
Speaker 1: threaten the status quo. It's easier to just get in
Speaker 1: your you know, outraged by the guys like he compared
Speaker 1: apartheid to this vaccine. Man, Oh my god, let's we
Speaker 1: have we have we have to be shocked by it
Speaker 1: and have to be disgusted by it, but we can't
Speaker 1: do anything about it. And that was the defining trade
Speaker 1: of the Trump presidency was, here's this horrible thing that happened.
Speaker 1: Can you believe it? Isn't that sad? Moving on? Alright,
Speaker 1: So what's going on on TV right now? Who's winning
Speaker 1: Dancing with the Stars or some shit? And and the
Speaker 1: January six Commission is a good example of something not
Speaker 1: being sexy and not being exciting to talk about. It
Speaker 1: is depressing to talk about. It is ugly, and it
Speaker 1: is it is unpleasant, and it is a physical manifestation
Speaker 1: of a lot of very unpleasant truths about American society
Speaker 1: and how close we are too chaos. Yeah, but the
Speaker 1: Republicans turn it into a like sexy talking point for
Speaker 1: their base with you know, talking about political prisoners. The
Speaker 1: Democrats are not doing that work. It doesn't seem well,
Speaker 1: you can't make it positive, you can't make it. Oh,
Speaker 1: we need to, you know, support our political prisoners, like
Speaker 1: you can make Ashley Babbitt a star in death or
Speaker 1: a martyr because she's not here. She can't go on
Speaker 1: Meet the Press, she can't go on Fox News. She
Speaker 1: can just be someone who died. And it's that sad.
Speaker 1: It's playing on sympathy. There are no sympathetic figures on
Speaker 1: the other side to make this feel good because guess
Speaker 1: what the sympathetic figures are the police and we don't
Speaker 1: like them, Nancy, and Nancy blows yeah, like we're not
Speaker 1: gonna feel bad, Like, yes, it is horrible what happened
Speaker 1: to these people, these police officers who were just doing
Speaker 1: their best, some of them, at least, we're doing their best.
Speaker 1: But it is difficult for people to wrap their minds
Speaker 1: around the kind of like sticky patriotism that would be
Speaker 1: required to make this a bigger story, right, It's never
Speaker 1: going to tug at my heart strings. It's it is
Speaker 1: a tragedy. It's sort of like thinking about the Hindenburg disaster,
Speaker 1: like I feel terrible that had happened, but I'm not
Speaker 1: going to be I guess I'm not moved by it
Speaker 1: because yeah, it's really it's a really going to be
Speaker 1: like that like some ship from that like s album
Speaker 1: cover baller as beer roll for something, TikTok. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm I'm never going to be moved. And that's not
Speaker 1: because it is not a sad story, but because I'm
Speaker 1: talking about me as a general person, like the general
Speaker 1: you like, you are never going to be moved by
Speaker 1: this because there isn't like a figure for you to
Speaker 1: to latch onto to feel sympathy for. It's like a
Speaker 1: movie or a TV show. You have to have a
Speaker 1: character who is your protagonist, that is your entry point
Speaker 1: to the story. There's no there's nobody for the left
Speaker 1: in this story. So it's just like a horrible thing
Speaker 1: that most establishment democrats want to forget. Right, all right,
Speaker 1: let's move on to uh, you know, from the rulers
Speaker 1: of politics to the ruler of the podcast landscape, the
Speaker 1: man himself, Joe Rogan defeated COVID by putting it in
Speaker 1: an armbar and going to the mat with it. He
Speaker 1: pegged and grappling, then he pegged it no. So not surprisingly,
Speaker 1: you know, he through everything at it, all the most
Speaker 1: expensive treatments that money can buy at his case of
Speaker 1: COVID got better. Like most rich people who are able
Speaker 1: to treat their COVID aggressively tend to and now he's
Speaker 1: back claiming that the thing that got him better surprise
Speaker 1: prizes is the unproven kind of conspiracy theory treatment that
Speaker 1: he took, among many other proven treatments. Yeah, this is
Speaker 1: a couple of things to point out of his like return,
Speaker 1: and just how many fucking mental pretzels this guy put
Speaker 1: himself into just speaking, he was like, yo, first he
Speaker 1: was saying, how COVID is nothing, you know, and like
Speaker 1: it's it's all good or whatever, but it yet you
Speaker 1: needed to take regeneral, Like yet you were out of
Speaker 1: place where you realized you had to actually take real
Speaker 1: medications and really you needed medical treatment. But you're not
Speaker 1: saying you're gonna lean on that. He said COVID was
Speaker 1: nothing for a you know, young, able bodied person, seemingly
Speaker 1: implying like including himself in that before he got it,
Speaker 1: and then once he got it, he was all about
Speaker 1: throwing every single treatment at it, like it was the
Speaker 1: very serious disease that it actually is. Right, and you say,
Speaker 1: you took iver mactin and is all I really helped,
Speaker 1: But you also took monoclonal antibodies like regeneron, and you're saying,
Speaker 1: but you're not really Pointing to that, he said, the
Speaker 1: media doesn't talk about how I took iver mactin and
Speaker 1: now I'm better, But he's also not saying himself that
Speaker 1: you actually took an FDA authorized treatment in regenderan or
Speaker 1: these monoclonal antibodies, and that may also have been the
Speaker 1: reason you were doing better. And then he goes on
Speaker 1: to say, Oh, they don't trust the whole vaccine scheme
Speaker 1: because big pharma. You know what they're trying to do.
Speaker 1: You just trying to get rich Man, trying to get
Speaker 1: you to take these vaccines so they can make more money.
Speaker 1: Yet the maker of iver mactin is fucking murk. So
Speaker 1: which big pharmaceutical company are you? Like, I don't even
Speaker 1: understand what he's talking about. The he's talking about the
Speaker 1: farm animal division of Mark, so it's very different. That's
Speaker 1: more of a scrappy upstart than the human being division
Speaker 1: of exactly. So that storyline is the thing that he
Speaker 1: has like clung onto because it is like, I didn't
Speaker 1: realize that iver mecton is both like used for horses
Speaker 1: and farm animals, but it's also used for people, not
Speaker 1: for COVID but for like an anti parasitic Yeah, an
Speaker 1: anti parasitic. So he's like, people talk about it being
Speaker 1: a horse to warmer, but the reason people talk about
Speaker 1: it being a horse to warmer, by the way, is
Speaker 1: that people are actually taking their horses the horse version.
Speaker 1: So that's a paste. There's a problem. But he so
Speaker 1: he's like used that as kind of a misdirect to
Speaker 1: be like, and you know, they're they're calling a horse
Speaker 1: to warmer even though like I took one that is
Speaker 1: like those prescribed by my doctor, which very well he
Speaker 1: may have. He's he has access to doctors that nine
Speaker 1: percent of the American population does not have access to.
Speaker 1: But then he says, he claimed that the reason iver
Speaker 1: Mechten is not being approved is to force vaccines on people.
Speaker 1: Like that's the like, that's he said, you know, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of speculation, what so you know, you know
Speaker 1: when he starts off with there's a lot of speculation, it's, uh,
Speaker 1: it's the trouble equivalent of a lot of people are
Speaker 1: saying no, they're not, they're not. One of the speculations
Speaker 1: involves the emergency use authorization for the vaccines. That in
Speaker 1: order for there to be an emergency use authorization, there
Speaker 1: has to be no treatment for a disease that's not true,
Speaker 1: but just complete. This is where he's you know, that's
Speaker 1: that's his that's his worldview. He's gonna have to reinforce
Speaker 1: it all the time and use whatever loose, spurious claims
Speaker 1: that he can to to back it up. Because the
Speaker 1: big thing, especially with the iver mectin thing he talked about,
Speaker 1: was like, oh, they were in Japan, the government said, uh,
Speaker 1: they should use it to treat COVID. Not fucking true.
Speaker 1: It's just there was the chairman of the Tokyo Medical
Speaker 1: Association cautiously, like I guess supported the treatment, but the
Speaker 1: association themselves nor the government was just like, no, we're
Speaker 1: not authorizing that. This is what this one guy said
Speaker 1: out loud at a thing, and that turned into this
Speaker 1: whole social media claim that yes, in Japan they're using
Speaker 1: it to treat COVID, and know, yeah, well, I mean,
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it really is just
Speaker 1: virtue signaling for a different kind of virtue, and that
Speaker 1: virtue is contrarianism. And Joe Rogan became very rich and
Speaker 1: very famous by being a contrarian and saying the opposite
Speaker 1: of what he's supposed to say, and that's what Spotify
Speaker 1: paid millions and millions of dollars for is for him
Speaker 1: to say, ah nah, that's bullshit. And here's why I
Speaker 1: read this thing on this in the study on this website,
Speaker 1: that it's just a bunch of letters drawn together dot
Speaker 1: com and apparently all the ship you read about eating
Speaker 1: healthy is bullshit and you can see whatever you want,
Speaker 1: or you should just inject steroids in your cock and
Speaker 1: then you'll get really big and awesome. Like that's all
Speaker 1: it is. It's just, it's just idiocracy on a microphone.
Speaker 1: It is just it is. It is a hair away
Speaker 1: from info Wars. It is a palatable, more mainstream version
Speaker 1: of info Wars. And if you listen to this stuff,
Speaker 1: you are being given false information, You are being manipulated,
Speaker 1: and you are being built. In the same way that
Speaker 1: he is saying that the pharmaceutical industry is bilking people
Speaker 1: through the vaccine, he is saying, listen to my show,
Speaker 1: subscribed to Spotify. By this merchandise, he's stealing from you, folks.
Speaker 1: He's stealing from you every single day by giving you
Speaker 1: horseship that you want to hear. That's it. He just
Speaker 1: he knows you want to you want to be told
Speaker 1: that the vaccines are are are bad, they don't work,
Speaker 1: that you can just you know, take some pills that
Speaker 1: you get from a shady website, or you know, the
Speaker 1: worst case scenario, because you can't get the pills because
Speaker 1: there's a run on iver mectin and a shortage for
Speaker 1: people who actually need it, you can go out and
Speaker 1: you can get the paste from fucking Capella's or something.
Speaker 1: That is what it's all about. And you're being you're
Speaker 1: being taken advantage of. Yeah, well he laughed his ass off.
Speaker 1: It's million dollar mansion. Yeah, all of these people telling
Speaker 1: you not to take the vaccine are rich enough to
Speaker 1: not take the vaccine if they don't want to, or
Speaker 1: they taken completely different reality are they taking and they
Speaker 1: don't tell you it's not your business? Right? Yeah? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean this is just that, Uh, he's not gonna stop.
Speaker 1: People aren't going to stop listening and settle hit. Well
Speaker 1: they did, because yeah, there, it's not free to listen
Speaker 1: to anymore. It's it's it's really hard to get someone
Speaker 1: who is listening to everything on one platform to switch.
Speaker 1: And so all of these exclusive to Spotify podcasts are
Speaker 1: seeing a drastic reduction in their listenership. Now that's not
Speaker 1: to say that people don't end up going onto YouTube
Speaker 1: and listening to the show, because I think they're they're
Speaker 1: pretty on YouTube. Yeah, and they can, you know, monetize
Speaker 1: it pretty easily on YouTube if they have to. So
Speaker 1: they're still they're doing just fine. There's no problem there. Uh.
Speaker 1: And that's the Internet, man, it's free for all that
Speaker 1: you can get your stupid message out anywhere you want. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just keep gaining and gaining and gaining. I mean that's
Speaker 1: what we've seen, like whether it be Facebook or Donald
Speaker 1: Trump or you know, and you will keep gaining momentum
Speaker 1: until something stops you. Yeah, you know, until you are
Speaker 1: the richest human who has ever existed, in Jeff Bezos
Speaker 1: this case. All right, let's take a quick break and
Speaker 1: we will be right back. And we're back, and look,
Speaker 1: I don't know what your president is doing to mark
Speaker 1: the anniversary of No. Eleven, but my president is talking
Speaker 1: talking fights. Baby, he's doing commentary on a fight between
Speaker 1: fifty eight year old of Ander Holyfield and I don't
Speaker 1: know viter Alford yeah or Belford. Yeah, I'm not familiar
Speaker 1: with his dude, Donald Trump. One night, sick Gas commentary
Speaker 1: with Don Jr. At the Seminal Hard Rock on the
Speaker 1: twentieth anniversary of nine eleven. It's just this one, fucking
Speaker 1: I just love the way it's being built. Fight. The
Speaker 1: digital streaming service carrying the Saturday pay per view event,
Speaker 1: announced that the former president, along with his eldest son,
Speaker 1: will quote offer their perspective throughout the night, including during
Speaker 1: the headlining fight between a Vander and Vitor. I okay, sure,
Speaker 1: I mean that's this is my bigger thing, more than
Speaker 1: like with all these factors. You got Trump, you got
Speaker 1: Vander Holyfield, and you know a fight. Is this going
Speaker 1: to do Paul Brothers race war pay per view levels
Speaker 1: of revenue? I don't think so. I don't think so. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And that's got to hurt for Donald. The Paul Brothers
Speaker 1: are the biggest heels in America, to use a wrestling term.
Speaker 1: People want to see them lose. Yeah, And they have
Speaker 1: booked this, They've they've scripted all of this to perfection,
Speaker 1: because every time you think this is the one, this
Speaker 1: motherfucker's going down. He's fighting Tyron Woodley. Oh he's finished.
Speaker 1: And of course you know he withheld his fighting the
Speaker 1: last couple of Yeah, it just goes to a decision
Speaker 1: and then he wins because they're gonna wait and wait
Speaker 1: and wait and wait and wait and wait and draw
Speaker 1: it out for as long as they can before they
Speaker 1: finally have him lose. Do you think now, because a
Speaker 1: lot of people suspect obviously, like when he fought Mayweather,
Speaker 1: They're like, dude, Mayweather could have fucking absolutely just like
Speaker 1: he was knocked out at a certain point, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, and like he held him up and
Speaker 1: then with Woodley there like he got him a few
Speaker 1: good times and then looked like he just sort of
Speaker 1: ceased fighting like towards in the in the later rounds,
Speaker 1: And so a lot of people like these are all
Speaker 1: they're all just being they're all just getting the check
Speaker 1: to lose whatever. Yeah, exactly that will there be someone
Speaker 1: who stealthily says, yeah, yeah, I'm down for that and
Speaker 1: just knocks the ship out of him in the ring
Speaker 1: and he's like I went off scripts sorry, sorry, Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of money at stake. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of contracts that I'm sure are you get sued. It's
Speaker 1: like you weren't supposed to knock him out. I think
Speaker 1: it would actually end up being better, like as a
Speaker 1: as a wrestling mind, as a person who wrote for
Speaker 1: professional wrest like understands wrestling pretty well. If you if
Speaker 1: you did a thing where you're just like, all right,
Speaker 1: So Mike Tyson, I just want you to, you know,
Speaker 1: go into it like we had planned, like we talked
Speaker 1: about with Logan, but in like the fourth or fifth round,
Speaker 1: just let let loose. Just take him down, don't kill him,
Speaker 1: but knock him up a little bit, put him on
Speaker 1: his ass, have him be knocked out, because then the
Speaker 1: rematt is even bigger because you can say, oh, he
Speaker 1: went off script, I wasn't ready. Yes it was fake,
Speaker 1: but this time is real. And then you've wiped out
Speaker 1: all of the naysayers, all of the people saying this
Speaker 1: is fake because it's wrestling is all about the illusion
Speaker 1: of reality. How do you suspend disbelief in the audience
Speaker 1: every single week once they've figured out it's fake or
Speaker 1: not fake, but you know it's predetermined outcomes because those
Speaker 1: people hurt, hurt each other, they hit each other real
Speaker 1: for real. Once you've done that, you have to keep
Speaker 1: up the illusion so that people buy into it. They
Speaker 1: spend money, They say, I wanna you know, buy the
Speaker 1: pay per view. I want to buy the merchandise. I'm
Speaker 1: emotionally invested in this thing because it's It's not like
Speaker 1: watching a movie where you are transported to another place,
Speaker 1: where you are in a movie theater and it's dark
Speaker 1: and you can just focus on the story being told,
Speaker 1: or even a TV show where you binge it and
Speaker 1: you just kind of get lost in it. This is
Speaker 1: the scripted fighting where oftentimes things happen that defy the
Speaker 1: laws of physics or boxing. Now, like, if you are
Speaker 1: telling me the tyrone Woodley couldn't knock out Logan Paul,
Speaker 1: was it Logan or Jake? It was Logan? Right, If
Speaker 1: you're telling me that you're lying to me, it was Jake.
Speaker 1: They're all the same to me. Like the twins from
Speaker 1: the Matrix reloaded like some fucking goopy, pale ghost. They
Speaker 1: should do that as a tag team match the guys
Speaker 1: from the Matrix against the Paul brothers. And they both
Speaker 1: have dreadlocks, so it's hard to figure out who's who.
Speaker 1: Who's more problematic, way more problematic? Yeah, we don't. We
Speaker 1: don't talk enough about the cultural appropriation in the Matrix sequel,
Speaker 1: do we? I the only one seeing this, I'm kidding
Speaker 1: um anyway, yeah, like this is this is a perfect
Speaker 1: way my my plan to get people back on board
Speaker 1: because I can see the steady loss of interest, Like, okay,
Speaker 1: this is another one where you pull the wool over
Speaker 1: my eyes. Once you've made it clear that your ship
Speaker 1: is not real, people are going to start tuning out.
Speaker 1: So think about it. Then they need to get knocked out.
Speaker 1: He's gonna have to get knocked out and they're gonna
Speaker 1: have to be like, look, it's real. And then maybe
Speaker 1: the rematch and then he win, he knocks out Mike,
Speaker 1: and then you do the blowoff, you do the third fight,
Speaker 1: you get the trilogy. It's a it's a rubber match.
Speaker 1: That is where the real money is is in the
Speaker 1: rubber match. To details of this that are intriguing to me.
Speaker 1: One that he's doing this commentary the Donald Trump Fight
Speaker 1: Night commentary. One is that he's doing it with Donald
Speaker 1: Trump Jr. Who he like plainly despises, and like I
Speaker 1: feel like over the course of just like a long
Speaker 1: like conversation where you're just kind of riffing that that
Speaker 1: will be evident. And also he is really bad at
Speaker 1: talking about nine eleve them like her. Like he on
Speaker 1: like just hours after the towers fell, he like bragged
Speaker 1: about how one of his buildings was now the tallest
Speaker 1: in downtown Manhattan. That is why you put it behind
Speaker 1: a paywall. But only the people dumb enough to order
Speaker 1: this pay per view will see it. But man, I
Speaker 1: kind of want to watch it because don't do it.
Speaker 1: Do not support this. This is the worst thing in
Speaker 1: the entire world. You're paying their legal bills by buying this.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure that's why Donald doju Donald Jr. Is
Speaker 1: involved with this too, because we see his sniffling ass
Speaker 1: on cameo, like he's probably looking for anything to be
Speaker 1: like all right, fucky dad, you want it's it's in Florida,
Speaker 1: we barely have to go anywhere, and you just say
Speaker 1: a couple of things about how Holy Fields a great
Speaker 1: champion and then uh say that the election was stolen
Speaker 1: and then donate and then we'll be good. He went
Speaker 1: to an m M A fight and like they didn't
Speaker 1: show him, and I think he was like piste off
Speaker 1: about that. Like Dana White had to like come out
Speaker 1: and be like sorry, like we meant to show him,
Speaker 1: but like there's a camera misq so for some reason,
Speaker 1: he really wants to be seen as like a fight present. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean he he had he had a run where
Speaker 1: he was doing ship like that. I feel like back
Speaker 1: in the day, like in the eighties or something. So
Speaker 1: he oh, yeah, he would be at WrestleMania every year.
Speaker 1: The WrestleMania four and five both took place adjacent to
Speaker 1: Trump Plaza in Atlantic City. He loves that spotlight. So
Speaker 1: he's getting back to his roots and that's good for him.
Speaker 1: I do wonder he's going to a crowded indoor facility
Speaker 1: in Florida, in Florida where mask wearing will not be mandated,
Speaker 1: vaccines will not be mandated. Do you think that this
Speaker 1: motherfucker shows up wearing a mask? So one thing that
Speaker 1: I like, I actually think they probably won't even be
Speaker 1: there because there's a there is a trend of Yeah,
Speaker 1: there is a trend of commented, like a Monday Football
Speaker 1: is adding a commentary track, like a place where you
Speaker 1: can go and watch commentary from Eli and Peyton Manning.
Speaker 1: But they're just like doing it from their garage, their
Speaker 1: respective garages. Yeah, but you know, but you know, he's
Speaker 1: not afraid of a fucking superstruar you know what I mean, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's been having him every couple of months since he
Speaker 1: left office. I guess in person commentary. Oh, they did
Speaker 1: say that, like that. The marketing material is full live
Speaker 1: in person commentary. Yes, I mean what if, yeah, he
Speaker 1: shows up one with a mask and they all get
Speaker 1: pissed at him for wearing a mask, pictures are taken
Speaker 1: of him with a mask and people get mad, or
Speaker 1: or what if he gets it again? I mean, he's vaccinated,
Speaker 1: so he's probably gonna be are right, not necessarily if
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of video positive people who are positive
Speaker 1: for COVID not wearing masks, lots of people, not lots
Speaker 1: of people. I don't want to spread misinformation, but people
Speaker 1: are getting break through cases if they are around lots
Speaker 1: of unvaccinated positive uh COVID carriers. I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: wish it upon the man. I would never do such
Speaker 1: a thing. That would be wrong. What if it Here's
Speaker 1: just a lot of speculations. People are specula People are
Speaker 1: saying that if Donald Trump were to show up to
Speaker 1: this event in Florida, the chances are good that he
Speaker 1: could get COVID again. Yeah, he is an elderly man.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's where Joe Rogan got it right, fucking
Speaker 1: around Florida, and that is what I heard. That's what
Speaker 1: I heard. There's a lot of speculations. People keep saying
Speaker 1: these things on television over here in stories, and it's
Speaker 1: concerning to me. Okay, don't don't you feel like you're
Speaker 1: w old it's falling apart. Sometimes I feel like I
Speaker 1: don't have a partner. Sometimes I feel like my only
Speaker 1: friend is the city. I live in, the City of Angels.
Speaker 1: Sorry by that, of course me in the United States
Speaker 1: of America only song slaps. But let's talk Andre three
Speaker 1: thousand real quick. We kind of touched on it yesterday,
Speaker 1: but just to get into the specifics of the controversy.
Speaker 1: Over the weekend, Drake leaked an unreleased track from Donda
Speaker 1: featuring Andre three thousand, and it was like a It
Speaker 1: was a track on which Kanye like, this is Drake
Speaker 1: and but Andre Andre's verse does not this Drake, and
Speaker 1: He's come out to say like he doesn't give a
Speaker 1: shit about any of this bullshit. It's that track life
Speaker 1: Life of the Party. And I guess it was only
Speaker 1: played at a very specific private event, which is like
Speaker 1: the only iteration or the only place where this version
Speaker 1: was heard. But there's a The Andre verse is about
Speaker 1: mother's you know Yet the album version comes out and
Speaker 1: it's just a dis track, and he says he comes.
Speaker 1: This is his sort of quote on it about the
Speaker 1: how the whole thing went down, he said. A few
Speaker 1: weeks ago, Kanye reached out about making me up there,
Speaker 1: having me be a part of the Donda album. I
Speaker 1: was inspired by his idea to make a musical tribute
Speaker 1: to his mom. It felt appropriate to me to support
Speaker 1: the Donda concept by referencing my own mother, who passed away.
Speaker 1: We both shared that loss. I thought it was a
Speaker 1: beautiful choice to make a clean album, but unfortunately I
Speaker 1: didn't know that was the plan before I wrote and
Speaker 1: recorded my verse. It was clear to me that an edited,
Speaker 1: quote clean format of the Verse would not work without
Speaker 1: having the raw original also available, So sadly I had
Speaker 1: to be omitted from the original album release. The track
Speaker 1: I received and wrote two didn't have the disc Verse
Speaker 1: on it, and we were hoping to make a more
Speaker 1: focused offering for the Donna album. But I guess things
Speaker 1: happened like they're supposed to. It's unfortunate that I was
Speaker 1: released this way and two artists that I love, going
Speaker 1: back and forth. Uh, and then he said, I love Drake,
Speaker 1: I love I want to work with Kendrick, I want
Speaker 1: to work with jay Z Tyler, blah blah blah. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that sounds like a very Kanye thing to do. This
Speaker 1: is gonna happen more often where he brings people into
Speaker 1: his process. He says, I'm gonna do this thing. It's
Speaker 1: be great, and he's got those crazy eyes, like his
Speaker 1: eyes are huge, and he's like, I'm gonna do this thing,
Speaker 1: will be awesome, and then he changes his mind two
Speaker 1: weeks later and he's like, I gotta go to the
Speaker 1: Mercedes Benz Superdome or not the Superdome, but I gotta
Speaker 1: go to to Mercedes been Stadium and I gotta live
Speaker 1: inside of the tunnel and I've got to just like
Speaker 1: come up with a new idea because the thing I
Speaker 1: did before sucked. And it's like, Okay, you're gonna burn
Speaker 1: a bunch of material, You're gonna burn a bunch of talent,
Speaker 1: like a thousand who's gonna be piste off. He's gonna
Speaker 1: be uh, you know, diplomatic about it, like he was
Speaker 1: in his statement, But do you think he's happy that
Speaker 1: this song was associated with him shifting on Drake? No,
Speaker 1: of course not. That's not good for him, it's not
Speaker 1: good for anybody. But there's like probably seventy versions of
Speaker 1: Donda this floating around. We're gonna hear all of them
Speaker 1: one day when he dies, because they're gonna be like, oh,
Speaker 1: here's the new Hollow Hollow Cube edition of Donda, featuring
Speaker 1: all the songs that were rejected from the album. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I prefer version number twenty nine because it's it's got
Speaker 1: that part. I really love that. I can't get enough.
Speaker 1: The other thing is like, you're if the album is
Speaker 1: meant to honor your mother, why are you wasting your
Speaker 1: breath trying to come at this other rapper because it's
Speaker 1: not about honoring his mother or any or even his
Speaker 1: own mother, you know what I mean, Like even for Donda,
Speaker 1: you know, it's just like a whole thing. I'm just confused,
Speaker 1: like the intent. But again, this was not a focused album,
Speaker 1: So I don't know why. I'm like being like, what
Speaker 1: is going on over there? Not a focused mind making
Speaker 1: the album. That first track does say her name like times,
Speaker 1: so that is kind of confusion. I'm sorry, Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: there's also like, no, not that many, if any women
Speaker 1: featured on the album. What a surprise, didn't he try
Speaker 1: to get Trump to show up to one of these
Speaker 1: events that he did. Oh yeah, that's who he was
Speaker 1: trying to marry in that marriage. Yeah, that's a shame.
Speaker 1: I mean instead of getting Trump, he got Maryland Manson.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, honor your mother with Marylyn man What
Speaker 1: is this guy gotta do? What does this guy gotta
Speaker 1: do for people to be like now I've had it?
Speaker 1: He makes the music that people are mostly frustrated by.
Speaker 1: He does all of these these stunts that are designed
Speaker 1: not just to transgress, but to actively upset people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: things that are offensive to people, like the big yeasy stands,
Speaker 1: though they're all like you know, pre yea and all
Speaker 1: that other stuff, like it was always the battle crowds, Like,
Speaker 1: I can excuse everything that he does because his message
Speaker 1: is about believing in yourself. No, it's about believing in
Speaker 1: Kanye West. No, right, but I'm saying, but that's how
Speaker 1: the the supporters like who are like the most you know,
Speaker 1: die hard defenders have to sort of repurpose whatever they
Speaker 1: believe the messages to say like, I'm here because I'm
Speaker 1: here for the uplifting pep talks in the form of
Speaker 1: his lyrics. Yeah, he's also Jakes, but he's a rapper.
Speaker 1: Huhd Jake's who sells eighty dollar gilded t shirts with Balinciaga. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And hey, dude, he could buy a weird bulletproof vest
Speaker 1: with his mom's name on it. Cool. It just bums
Speaker 1: me out because I see all, you know, action writers
Speaker 1: fonding over it, and I see music journalists fawning over it,
Speaker 1: and I see cultural critics taking it seriously like, oh,
Speaker 1: he built a version of his house in the stadium,
Speaker 1: What does that mean? Oh Kim and him are to
Speaker 1: pretending to get married again. Oh boy, what is that?
Speaker 1: It's all narcissism, and it's all designed to take money
Speaker 1: from you, Like this is the same thing as Joe Rogan.
Speaker 1: It is just provocation for the sake of it. It's
Speaker 1: contrarianism for the sake of it, and it's designed to
Speaker 1: part your money from your pocket. Yeah that's man. We've
Speaker 1: been saying from very early on at this show that
Speaker 1: it seems like narcissist, like having the narcissistic personality disorder
Speaker 1: is the cheap code to modern America, because it is
Speaker 1: your success. If I have any shame, any empathy, any
Speaker 1: respect I mean for other human beings, I'm fucked. I'm
Speaker 1: not going to succeed. That's why no one knows what
Speaker 1: it means. But it's provocative, Yes, exactly, let me ponder this,
Speaker 1: I think before no one that's what it means. But
Speaker 1: it's provocative, and that's been the guiding principle. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: blame Will Ferrell. Well, Dave as always such a pleasure
Speaker 1: having you. Where can people find you and follow you?
Speaker 1: I am at Dave underscore shilling on Twitter. You can
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Speaker 1: Have a listen. We had cumel Gianni on a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks ago to talk about Idiocracy. It was a
Speaker 1: really great episode. We've got friend of the Daily Site
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Speaker 1: the Last Man, the f X TV show that's coming
Speaker 1: out very soon, so get into that. I think it's
Speaker 1: this is the best run of episodes we've ever done. Also,
Speaker 1: I have a monthly column in the l a Times
Speaker 1: Style section that you should check out. As I said earlier,
Speaker 1: I wrote about skinny jeans and why they are being
Speaker 1: phased out of our culture. Before that, before that, Dad
Speaker 1: Hats I was talking about Dad Hats. Yeah, this was
Speaker 1: this was really serious for Miles to read about his
Speaker 1: his culture and his beliefs and his religion. Uh in
Speaker 1: print for once invalidate. That's my job. I'm here to
Speaker 1: validate everybody, especially And is there a tweet or some
Speaker 1: of the work of social media you've been enjoying. Okay,
Speaker 1: so this is a tweet that isn't necessarily funny, but
Speaker 1: it brought a little tear to my eye. Bob Odenkirk
Speaker 1: tweeted a photo of himself being made up to look
Speaker 1: like Saul Goodman yet again. He said, back to work
Speaker 1: on better call Saul. So happy to be here living
Speaker 1: this specific life, surrounded by such good people. By the way,
Speaker 1: this makeup is is makeup pro Sherry Monte Santo making
Speaker 1: me not ugly for shooting. I just was really glad
Speaker 1: that he's back at it. Yeah, a lot of people
Speaker 1: were really worried about him, and uh, yeah, he means
Speaker 1: a lot to a lot of people. And so I'm
Speaker 1: glad that he's back out and making stuff and hopefully
Speaker 1: taking care of himself. Yeah, he's like quietly just had
Speaker 1: having one of the great careers of like our generation,
Speaker 1: not yet that he's like our same age, but like
Speaker 1: of our generation of like pop culture that we grew
Speaker 1: up on somehow without being every horrible narcissist, right, how
Speaker 1: he pulls that off. He doesn't have it, doesn't have
Speaker 1: narcisistic personality disorder, and he's still successful. So let that
Speaker 1: be a lesson to you kids. You don't have to
Speaker 1: be like Kanye West or Donald Trump. You can be
Speaker 1: like Bob Odenkirk or me a great white guy. Yeah, exactly. Miles,
Speaker 1: Where can people find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying?
Speaker 1: Find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray
Speaker 1: and also the other podcast for twenty Day Fiance. Let's
Speaker 1: see quick shout out to over the weekend. I miss
Speaker 1: some Zeke Gang at a social gathering Steve and Maddie,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for complimenting me in public. I
Speaker 1: felt very validated. I don't hear about this. I know you.
Speaker 1: I'm like, come on now, shove a gun into your ribs.
Speaker 1: That sounds over this way. She's like, yeah, you're about
Speaker 1: to be a footnote history motherfucker' um. But anyway, shout
Speaker 1: out to you all. Really great talking to you, and
Speaker 1: I want to say some tweets that I like. First
Speaker 1: one is from Branna Ce Titley at Branta Titley tweeting,
Speaker 1: wow okay on following now was a big fan of
Speaker 1: her housemaid of Sweets, was not aware she used it
Speaker 1: to lord children into her oven to cook and eat them.
Speaker 1: I love that structure of outreach tweet um. Another one
Speaker 1: is from Bond at Gresham two x. He tweeted, I
Speaker 1: broke down at my great grandma funeral at the podium
Speaker 1: when I found out nobody got her red velvet cake recipe.
Speaker 1: That ship hit me in my heart because, let me
Speaker 1: tell you, as somebody who has like family recipes, I
Speaker 1: did everything I could to document, especially my grandfather's barbecue
Speaker 1: sauce recipe. And I'm telling you, if you have things
Speaker 1: like this in your family, do what you have to
Speaker 1: do to preserve these things and I know it can
Speaker 1: be frustrating when like older people like no, I just
Speaker 1: put a little bit of this and a little bit
Speaker 1: of that. You're like, I don't you have to put
Speaker 1: down number values. They just take them on your iPhone
Speaker 1: so you can watch or if they do it, like okay,
Speaker 1: give me that thing and then you can weigh it
Speaker 1: and say that's the amount. But please preserve your family history,
Speaker 1: especially the recipes, because even if that was a joke,
Speaker 1: I felt that one. And the last one is from
Speaker 1: Miles Clee at Miles Clee said, Steve Martin saw the
Speaker 1: opportunity for Upper West Side Boomer Zoomer Murder comedy streaming
Speaker 1: deal left open by Woody Allen's forced retirement, and he
Speaker 1: seized it. You just got and Joe bitch. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I like that, Joe, but we'll talk about
Speaker 1: that another time. Yeah, I have not watched it yet.
Speaker 1: A couple of tweets. I've been enjoying. Chase at Not
Speaker 1: Chase Lions tweeted my dentist said I grinded my sleep. Damn.
Speaker 1: He's real for that. No days off by days off
Speaker 1: And Schwitz at schwitz A tweeted the Fugitive but every
Speaker 1: time Harrison Ford says, my wife, it's Borat's boys, I
Speaker 1: didn't kill get that super cut. Let's get that popping
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Speaker 1: where we link off to the information that we talked
Speaker 1: about in today's episode, as well as a song that
Speaker 1: we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song do we
Speaker 1: think people might enjoy today? This is a track by
Speaker 1: El Michael's Affair. They're one of my favorite instrumental bands,
Speaker 1: and I've gone out on a few of their tracks,
Speaker 1: you know famously. You might know them from their you
Speaker 1: know full bla like instrumental band treatments of Wu Tang tracks,
Speaker 1: But this one is one of their new singles. It's
Speaker 1: called Masterclass, and I really like it because it has
Speaker 1: like this David axel Rod kind of like it feels
Speaker 1: like something that would be sampled by like Mob Deep
Speaker 1: or DJ Premier, but it's just they do a really
Speaker 1: great job of like replicating vintage sounds and things like that.
Speaker 1: So it's an easy listen and it's a little head mader.
Speaker 1: So take this one masterclass by El Michael's fair. Damn,
Speaker 1: I thought David axel Rod was Obama. There's many David
Speaker 1: axel Rods with the true got David axel Rods, the
Speaker 1: jazz musician and American composer all Well. The Daily Zake
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