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Speaker 1: Please welcome the brilliant, the hilarious, the talented Ashley. Hello,
Speaker 1: I'm so glad to be here. How glad to have you.
Speaker 1: It's always I'm like, man, we gotta have Ashley on. Also,
Speaker 1: we got to talk ninety days at some point too,
Speaker 1: because that's like, that's one of our great overlapping interests
Speaker 1: on top of weed. Also, so yeah, ninety day I mean,
Speaker 1: and I mean that's hell all last night on Sunday.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I've only got the beginning parts. I gotta
Speaker 1: watch the rest after. But I'm boy, go boy, where
Speaker 1: are we in the world of First of all, how
Speaker 1: many seasons in oh? I mean, of which spin off?
Speaker 1: I mean currently we're finishing Night Fiance Happily ever after
Speaker 1: season six, and then Nighttida Fiance the other Way season
Speaker 1: three comes back next week. Yeah, and then that's what
Speaker 1: Americans go abroad and yeah, and fall in love with
Speaker 1: people in other countries. And then there's what Love in Paradise.
Speaker 1: I'm about to start watching that one. Yeah seism, so okay,
Speaker 1: So Love in Paradise you every season they have the
Speaker 1: clear like sex tourism couple, like the old lady who's
Speaker 1: just going down to clearly get dick, And I am
Speaker 1: impressed because Loving the Caribbean is not like that, Like
Speaker 1: it's legitimately people who are like I was in Jamaica
Speaker 1: for two weeks and it was the most beautiful time
Speaker 1: in my life, and so I was just having all
Speaker 1: the raw sex in the world and I got pregnant.
Speaker 1: And now I'm trying to convince his Canna moved to
Speaker 1: America because happy Baby. I actually think it's incredible and
Speaker 1: it reminds me of the early days of ninety day fiance,
Speaker 1: Like it's just people who you wish they could get
Speaker 1: it together, but they can't get out of their own way,
Speaker 1: right Versus now we just have like demented abusers and
Speaker 1: things like yeah, and you're just like, yeah, people who
Speaker 1: clearly hate each other, and you're just like, please stop
Speaker 1: like encouraging Angela to do this to this man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for herself. Sorry are they they're not bringing the couples together.
Speaker 1: The couples are together in the first place, and then yeah, okay, God,
Speaker 1: these are people who would be making these mistakes without
Speaker 1: without a camera. The added benefit of it all being
Speaker 1: documented and we can feel better by comparison about our
Speaker 1: terrible life decisions. That's the whole point of these show.
Speaker 1: All right, Ashley, We're gonna get to know you a
Speaker 1: little bit better in a moment. First, we are going
Speaker 1: to tell the listeners just a few of the things
Speaker 1: we're talking about. The Texas Supreme Court has sided with
Speaker 1: Governor Abbott about whether or not you can mandate masks.
Speaker 1: I'll give you one guess as to which side they're on.
Speaker 1: And a gop state Supreme Court, I wonder. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: fortunately some of the county officials you're just ignoring the
Speaker 1: ship out of them. But we'll talk about that. We'll
Speaker 1: talk about how to embrace fake meat. We will talk
Speaker 1: about the new grift, which is musicals. James o'keith starring
Speaker 1: in a musical which we've all been waiting for his
Speaker 1: musical theater debut after the Prince Lips Thinking video. We'll
Speaker 1: talk about just the horrifying scenes coming out of Afghanistan,
Speaker 1: and then we'll talk about Taco Bell if we have
Speaker 1: a little a little time, we'll have time to talk.
Speaker 1: We gotta get Taco Bell because they're introducing like futuristic
Speaker 1: drive throughs that look like Daft Punk designed a car wash.
Speaker 1: It's like four lane drive throughs that are all angular
Speaker 1: and like they're fishing fishing, We're going vertical. All of
Speaker 1: that plenty more. But first, actually we like to ask
Speaker 1: our guest, what is something from your search history? Oh?
Speaker 1: Something from my search history? I okay, I was looking
Speaker 1: and literally my search history for the past like three
Speaker 1: days is all just the names of bars from Bar
Speaker 1: Rescue because I've I've been obsessed with like this bar
Speaker 1: Rescue marathon. And then I just spend the entire day
Speaker 1: just going I wonder if that would still exists, And
Speaker 1: then I'm just googling like fifth and Vine, the Russ,
Speaker 1: like all these ridiculous names he comes up with for
Speaker 1: the like companies. One was like the Copper Rocket. He
Speaker 1: changed like a thriving bar into the Copper Rocket. It
Speaker 1: didn't survive. Yeah, what I mean? Did you? So? I'm
Speaker 1: guessing you also? Are you watch bart Rescue too? Oh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: ye myself I mentioned this because did you see that
Speaker 1: clip of him on Laura ingram I did where he's
Speaker 1: like workers are like dogs and you hit the star bunk,
Speaker 1: three dogs obedient and it's like, oh no, But like
Speaker 1: if you watch bar Rescue, it's like he could have
Speaker 1: said worse, Like if you watch bar Rescue, he will
Speaker 1: be like, say, you're a dumb idiot sandwich in front
Speaker 1: of your grandmother, Like tell your father, you're a failure,
Speaker 1: tell him, tell him, tell him now. So like, honestly,
Speaker 1: for John Taffer, like that was him trying to probably
Speaker 1: make a compliment like for his scale of like what
Speaker 1: is okay to say? Have you seen any bars that
Speaker 1: you know on bar Rescue? Because there was one in
Speaker 1: the valley that I grew up like never going to
Speaker 1: because it was like the old, washed, like elderly bar
Speaker 1: that were just like we're not going in there. That
Speaker 1: it was like then it was on and I was like,
Speaker 1: that's what it looks like inside. But it's always a
Speaker 1: startling thing when you see a local bar in there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they did one in Chicago and like I mean River
Speaker 1: and North, which is literally just where tourists hang out,
Speaker 1: and they were like we're going to turn this into
Speaker 1: the local and make it like a bar where local
Speaker 1: Chicago people want to go. And I lived in Chicago
Speaker 1: for seven years. No one goes to that place, Like
Speaker 1: it is just full of tourists who are like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, I want to go to the bar from
Speaker 1: the Bar Rescue episode, right right right? Yeah? Wait, which
Speaker 1: one was it before it became the local? What was
Speaker 1: the vibe in that place? Was it where they had
Speaker 1: all the art, the musicians and ship in there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like it was something like beats and notes or something
Speaker 1: like that, like some jazzer name and they have musicians.
Speaker 1: And he was just like, this is disgusting. Music doesn't
Speaker 1: make money like that, Like a like had like this
Speaker 1: like artistic disposition with like we wanted a place for
Speaker 1: people who do are like, but you're broke. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: he's like, it's what's more important sending your daughter to
Speaker 1: college or putting art on your walls. And it's like,
Speaker 1: that's that's how John Taversy is the world. It's that's amazing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like that Quincy Jones quote that God leaves the
Speaker 1: room when like the question of commercialism enters the conversation,
Speaker 1: Like he is the opposite. So just God leaves the
Speaker 1: room every time ever known God. It's amazing the things
Speaker 1: they'll do to just be like, I don't give a
Speaker 1: shit about the culture of this bar. What you want.
Speaker 1: There was one it's like a pipe like he came
Speaker 1: into a pirate bar that was run by literal like
Speaker 1: pirate hippies who were like, we love dressing up his
Speaker 1: pirates in our free time. Like this was clearly their
Speaker 1: passion project. And he came in and renamed the bar
Speaker 1: the corporate, like just shipping and just named it the corporate,
Speaker 1: made a giant logo of a man in a suit
Speaker 1: and was like, we want business people to know this
Speaker 1: place about the business, and like the pirate waiters just
Speaker 1: like couldn't get it together. They're just like, Milady, what
Speaker 1: would you like for dinner? And he's just like you
Speaker 1: need to be normal and then they all like stormed out.
Speaker 1: She closed it down three days later. Yeah. That was
Speaker 1: in Yeah, in Maryland. I believe. I remember that very
Speaker 1: vividly because I knew people from Silver Spring, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, do you know this bar? Do
Speaker 1: you know this bar? Of it? Like that episode came
Speaker 1: out nine years ago. I'm right, right, Okay, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean there's like like I google every bar, and there's
Speaker 1: like dedicated websites to like bar rescue updates where they
Speaker 1: tell you everything that happens the corporate and Copper Rocket
Speaker 1: I think. I feel like I don't watch the show,
Speaker 1: but it sounds like he's over too, and it sounds
Speaker 1: like he also prides himself on like being sweet at naming. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's like I know exactly what he's like. Rocket sounds
Speaker 1: like a steampunk like sex toy. Yeah, I thought I
Speaker 1: I thought of something like a mechanical dog. Penis is
Speaker 1: like right right, bring out the copper and then sometimes
Speaker 1: he'll change the name of the bar, but he like
Speaker 1: won't get them a new liquor license under the the
Speaker 1: right like the new name, and then they have to
Speaker 1: close down and they get screwed over. Like three of
Speaker 1: the bars they were like, yeah, he just like changed
Speaker 1: our name and got us a new sign and all
Speaker 1: of it was illegal, right, because we can't do business
Speaker 1: as this thing because okay, so little light Oprah kind
Speaker 1: of thing where people got the car and then they
Speaker 1: didn't realize I had to pay the tax Yeah, they
Speaker 1: had to pay the taxes. It's yeah, So there was
Speaker 1: just a I wonder if he was on Laura Ingram
Speaker 1: to like raise awareness of the bar rescue marathon, like
Speaker 1: if that's why he was there. Honestly, probably because that
Speaker 1: is all they show on Paramount, like the channel, Like
Speaker 1: there's a whole TV channel that just plays bar rescue
Speaker 1: all day. There you go. Yeah, he went on Laura
Speaker 1: the Ingram Angle to drag wage workers and then also
Speaker 1: and also just give some press a little bumped yeah,
Speaker 1: to just John Taver's most embarrassing manager moments. What is
Speaker 1: something you think is overrated? Actually overrated? You know, I
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to go right now everybody's talking about it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to go with the White Lotus. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna spoil anything, but I just feel like
Speaker 1: three episodes in, I'm going to keep watching. But yeah,
Speaker 1: and there's the thing. I think it's the internet seemed
Speaker 1: to be like that. I think it's an incredible show
Speaker 1: and it's a good show, but apparently people were watching
Speaker 1: this thing thinking it was gonna like give us the
Speaker 1: key to like saving native lands in Hawaii and like
Speaker 1: teach us how to end racism. That that's like apparently
Speaker 1: what people thought this show was gonna they had high expectations,
Speaker 1: and in that regard, I think maybe it was a
Speaker 1: bit overrated. I watched it. I'm want seen these first
Speaker 1: the episodes, and I'm like, look at these fun people, right,
Speaker 1: and you're it's just supposed to be like, let's enjoy
Speaker 1: the pathology of these like crazy white people and like
Speaker 1: just the crazy things that rich white people do. And
Speaker 1: instead people are like, wait a second. I thought, Mike
Speaker 1: whit Us like save us, Like what is this message?
Speaker 1: It's yeah, I know it's it's crazy white people, right,
Speaker 1: you give yourself to yeah, the right reasons to watch it. Um.
Speaker 1: I think we will be recommending that for our streaming
Speaker 1: corner this week because yeah, we've all been watching it
Speaker 1: and being like this ship is more than anything like
Speaker 1: the outside of the show. I'm just so I love
Speaker 1: Jennifer Coolidge. I've loved her since Best in Show when
Speaker 1: she that was like one of the first things I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm Coolidge Gang from Best in Show onward
Speaker 1: and watching her in this I'm mostly coming for the
Speaker 1: Jennifer Coolidge if I'm gonna be real, but like everything,
Speaker 1: but I stay for the rest of the mess. But
Speaker 1: she's been fucking unbelievably good and she's such a great
Speaker 1: perform Yeah, people feel like always seen she's like that too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when you're like, no, Jennifer Coolidge is a fucking artist, man,
Speaker 1: He's like some of the best actresses. Like she gets
Speaker 1: into these characters and people like, no, she just kind
Speaker 1: of seems like a bimbo, And it's like watching an interview,
Speaker 1: watch an interview, really, come on. I feel like, as
Speaker 1: somebody who curates opinions of TV shows that I haven't watched,
Speaker 1: it feels like the White Lotus has followed the same
Speaker 1: path as the undoing that Nicole Kidman Hugh Grant thing,
Speaker 1: where it was like everybody was really into it and
Speaker 1: talking about it and then everyone was disappointed by the
Speaker 1: last episode. Yeah, it's it's kind of a thing where
Speaker 1: people are like, oh my god, is this some larger
Speaker 1: message about the privileges of like white men and blah
Speaker 1: blah blah, and then it's like no, it's just like
Speaker 1: a really kind of basic story, like yeah, just you know,
Speaker 1: and it's entertaining and enjoyable, but I think you just
Speaker 1: have to like lower your expectations. And the thing with
Speaker 1: White Lotus was that so many people were like I
Speaker 1: relate to these characters, like how can they just like
Speaker 1: be bad people? And I that's where it's like, oh no,
Speaker 1: maybe you should reflect on that. That wasn't a joke. Okay,
Speaker 1: sarcastic when you said it to like the whiny girl
Speaker 1: who hates her whole life just because her husbands rich, Like, okay,
Speaker 1: we've all been there, you know. Anyway, I gotta make
Speaker 1: an open mic. What what's something you think is underrated?
Speaker 1: I like hate to go all TV, but I mean
Speaker 1: that's that's what I do. I just only know TV,
Speaker 1: and I have to go underrated. There's this show on
Speaker 1: TLC called You, Me and My Ex. It's crazy and
Speaker 1: like everyone has been like this is bad, like this
Speaker 1: is horrible TV, and I'm obsessed with it. It's like,
Speaker 1: actually the finale that I'm looking forward to more than
Speaker 1: the White Lotus. I I am just so into this show.
Speaker 1: That is just like people who are in relationships but
Speaker 1: have very unhealthy connections with their exes, like their X
Speaker 1: will come and like live with them, or like they
Speaker 1: face time with their ex boyfriend every day even though
Speaker 1: they're now like engaged to a woman. And I feel
Speaker 1: like people need to give it more credit because it
Speaker 1: is probably the most interesting human study of the last
Speaker 1: like ten years. Whenever I see promos for it, it
Speaker 1: felt like it was it was so aggressively produced, because
Speaker 1: I'm like, how the funk could you find someone who
Speaker 1: is like I'm in a relationship with this guy and
Speaker 1: we live with his ex and you're watching like just
Speaker 1: how toxic and unhealthy and unsustainable it is, and you're like,
Speaker 1: these people can't be fucking real, but you're saying you
Speaker 1: watch it and you're like, oh my god, they really
Speaker 1: are this fucking it. They do a good job of
Speaker 1: like finding couples where it's like they have a reason
Speaker 1: to still be in each other's lives, like they have
Speaker 1: kids or something, so it's a little like, okay, like
Speaker 1: this isn't too forced. Like when I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be the sperm donor for my ex wife
Speaker 1: who's now a lesbian, and it's like, Okay, they have
Speaker 1: like pretty good reasoning for why they want him to
Speaker 1: be the sperm donor and they're still like kind of involved,
Speaker 1: and it's like mostly people who have healthy boundaries. And
Speaker 1: then there are kind of the couples where it's like
Speaker 1: they like, like two of the couples go on in
Speaker 1: RV trip together and there's no reason for them to
Speaker 1: like share in RV. Like it's just like you can tell.
Speaker 1: A producer was like, it would be a good idea
Speaker 1: if you all were just like in the me together
Speaker 1: so we could shoot it. And that's when it's a
Speaker 1: little like, Okay, this is like overproduced drama, Like what
Speaker 1: that that part? Okay? Yeah, but like there's good stuff.
Speaker 1: There's like also the part where there's this guy who
Speaker 1: like he met this woman and they went on like
Speaker 1: two dates and then he got sick with COVID and
Speaker 1: was in the hospital for like nine months. Ex wife
Speaker 1: like moved back in with him to take care of
Speaker 1: their like five kids. He gets out of the hospital,
Speaker 1: moves back home, and the first thing he does, he's
Speaker 1: like that girl I went on two dates with, I
Speaker 1: want to move her into the house because I think
Speaker 1: I'm in love with her. Whoa And he's like he
Speaker 1: like he's like, oh, my daughter shares my bed sometimes,
Speaker 1: so you can't sleep with me. And he like puts
Speaker 1: an air mattress in a closet for and then and
Speaker 1: he like he's like no, this is like a good idea,
Speaker 1: Like why wouldn't you want because my closet, like this
Speaker 1: is great, and that's like, oh this is excellent. Tell yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm in now, I'm in. I mean the closet. I
Speaker 1: feel like I don't know in our dating lives, like
Speaker 1: I've definitely gone out and then someone's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: like I still live with my ex, but it's like
Speaker 1: all good, like we're in the process, like they're they're
Speaker 1: about to move out or whatever, and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: I could vibe with that. One time, I had a
Speaker 1: friend who straight up went home with somebody on a
Speaker 1: date and they're like, okay when you go and speak
Speaker 1: quiet because my ex is asleep in the other room,
Speaker 1: and he's like wait what and then found out like
Speaker 1: at the threshold what the situation is. It's like he's mine,
Speaker 1: we've been broken up for like a couple of months now,
Speaker 1: but just he gets really cranky, so like, let's really quiet.
Speaker 1: When we walked through, it's just kind of really really
Speaker 1: angry guy. Yeah, where he's like five too, though he's harmless. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like I hear about this more than I
Speaker 1: would expect, like that we we just ambiently heard about
Speaker 1: it through like Wayne Brady the fact that he lives
Speaker 1: with his wife and her dance too. Yeah, but like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I just hear about it all the time and like
Speaker 1: people's daily lives because I think, you know, rent is hard,
Speaker 1: like finding a place is hard. So there's definitely a
Speaker 1: lot of over left there. Yeah, I get the servia,
Speaker 1: but like the ones where it's someone who's just like,
Speaker 1: I just can't quit you decision, and there's there's Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's like one couple where the X wives became like
Speaker 1: best friends and they're doing like nude photo shoots together,
Speaker 1: and the guy is like, why is my new wife
Speaker 1: like doing a nude bathroom photo shoot with my ex wife? Like,
Speaker 1: you know, but that's how some people heal. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: all have our own ways of moving on. That sounds incredible,
Speaker 1: So go check out you, me and my ex. Y'all. Um,
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and we'll be right back.
Speaker 1: And we're back, and let's talk about masking laws around
Speaker 1: the country, specifically Texas, where they are basically run by Republicans.
Speaker 1: All the all the big office holders, all the big yeah,
Speaker 1: are all Republicans, and despite what like present tense science
Speaker 1: is showing us they're just like nag can't, can't, can't
Speaker 1: tell us what to do, yeah, the name of personal freedom.
Speaker 1: And you know, we talked about how there have been
Speaker 1: small little acts of rebellion in Florida and Texas where
Speaker 1: people are like, I don't give a funk, with the
Speaker 1: governor is saying like this sounds like absolutely assinine and
Speaker 1: dangerous to be like, dude, you're not gonna can't can't
Speaker 1: force people to do what's safe for everyone. That's absurd.
Speaker 1: And now we're seeing a little bit of pushback. So
Speaker 1: we talked about how two counties basically said we don't
Speaker 1: give a funk, we're gonna mandate masks in schools. Fucking
Speaker 1: come come see me then, and apparently the Supreme Court did.
Speaker 1: Governor Abbott was like, hey, Supreme Court, they're trying to
Speaker 1: flunt my like my anti mandate mandate, and they essentially
Speaker 1: blocked this initial mandate from Bexar in Dallas Counties, and like,
Speaker 1: these are some of the biggest school districts in the
Speaker 1: state that they represent, so you know, it makes sense
Speaker 1: why they want to keep it safe. So some commentary
Speaker 1: from officials there, the city attorney in Bexar County, Andy Segovia,
Speaker 1: said that quote he said, first of all, the mandate
Speaker 1: remains in effect, and quote the City of San Antonio
Speaker 1: and Bexar Counties response to the Texas Supreme Court continues
Speaker 1: to emphasize that the governor cannot use his emergency powers
Speaker 1: is to spend laws that provide local entities the needed
Speaker 1: flexibility to act in an emergency. Okay, that that makes sense.
Speaker 1: And then in Dallas, the superintendent of the independent Dallas
Speaker 1: Independent School District said, you know, funk it, We're not
Speaker 1: We don't give a funk with the court said like,
Speaker 1: there's how can you say, well, we can't do this,
Speaker 1: This doesn't make sense to quote, we're going to have
Speaker 1: the mask mandate tomorrow. We're going to be benevolent, we're
Speaker 1: going to be nice, but we're going to be firm
Speaker 1: and we're going to enforce it. So yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: at a certain point, can they just be like, we're
Speaker 1: going to do it from home. Then like if you
Speaker 1: if you insist on not letting people wear masks while
Speaker 1: we're in like we'll go back to feel like that's
Speaker 1: worse than the mask mandate, right, because because Texas is
Speaker 1: so like we refuse to believe this. A lot of
Speaker 1: school districts aren't even offering at home options, like you
Speaker 1: have to be in school because it's all you know,
Speaker 1: Like if you think about all the dynamics, right, it's
Speaker 1: like they want the kids back in school to alleviate
Speaker 1: the pressure on the adults that are workers, so they
Speaker 1: don't have to be at home with their kids. There
Speaker 1: looks less of a crunch for the childcare because they're
Speaker 1: at school again. But then on top of that, if
Speaker 1: you do the mask, then you're reminding people that the
Speaker 1: COVID rates are going out of control, which could which
Speaker 1: could create another lockdown, which obviously entities like the Chamber
Speaker 1: of Commerce absolutely hate because they've been like do we
Speaker 1: have to keep the revenue following? So no matter what,
Speaker 1: everything is just sort of linked to this idea of
Speaker 1: like never wanting to acknowledge that it's bad enough that
Speaker 1: something has to be done for the sake of just
Speaker 1: letting business rip um or business usual. I mean, I
Speaker 1: get why it's better for the anti vax or parents
Speaker 1: to like have their kids at school. I'm just wondering, like,
Speaker 1: can they if it's not a mandate, can they just
Speaker 1: be like, well, you're not allowed in our school, Like
Speaker 1: what just go from home? Then, I don't know. And
Speaker 1: the governor, along with all these other rules, also put
Speaker 1: in place rules where the school districts can't tell parents
Speaker 1: if if kids test positive for COVID, they can't share
Speaker 1: the number of students who have tested positive for COVID.
Speaker 1: So it's like you, as a parent, even if you
Speaker 1: don't want to send your kid in, you don't really
Speaker 1: have the information needed to be like oh, I should
Speaker 1: keep my kid at home or like oh, the numbers
Speaker 1: are going off the chart because they're just like nope,
Speaker 1: Like how did you get those numbers? Yeah, Like the
Speaker 1: governor says it's a secret, like we're not to say. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's though, despite the numbers going up, and also finding
Speaker 1: out that he's been asking for assistance from outside the
Speaker 1: state because the situation just becomes increasingly dire. It's like
Speaker 1: so much you know, someone's double double speak and just
Speaker 1: lack of acknowledgement happening that Yeah, it's just yeah, chaos
Speaker 1: still continues. Yeah, I'm a fifth generation Texan, Like my
Speaker 1: whole family is in Dallas, and I feel like I
Speaker 1: don't know, It's like the perfect example of just everything
Speaker 1: Texas is like on the one side, you have these
Speaker 1: people who are like, we're never gonna wear our masks,
Speaker 1: and then the other side at these people who are like,
Speaker 1: we will do whatever we have to do to wear
Speaker 1: these masks, Like we don't care, we have to go
Speaker 1: to the Supreme Court and fight you, we don't. I know.
Speaker 1: In Houston they like some people, they did a restraining
Speaker 1: order against the governor, yeah, so that they prevent him
Speaker 1: from like being able to like, you know, do anything
Speaker 1: about people wearing masks. So I just feel like it's
Speaker 1: just like the two like staunches, like just the most
Speaker 1: stubborn sides, like fighting against each other, right in the
Speaker 1: stubbornest state and the most again, the most stubborn state,
Speaker 1: and everybody's just kind of like I don't know what
Speaker 1: to do, right, all right, let's talk let's talk some
Speaker 1: fake meat. We we know that the copper rocket, the
Speaker 1: cop cket cover rocket, that's right. We know that, you know,
Speaker 1: the factory farming in the meat sector is a huge
Speaker 1: contributor to climate change, and that changing air its can
Speaker 1: help slow down the rise of temperatures, and just generally,
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's mainly the oil companies that can
Speaker 1: slow down, and you know, massively powerful corporations and governments
Speaker 1: that can slow it down. But definitely changes to our
Speaker 1: diets can help are are step in the right direction.
Speaker 1: And yeah, so so people are doing a study about
Speaker 1: just like what happens when you offer you know, the
Speaker 1: better fake meat impossible and beyond in the market, because
Speaker 1: there's a lot of talk about saying, like whoa when
Speaker 1: the fake meat reaches the same price as regular meat,
Speaker 1: because right now, like you know, are impossible just like
Speaker 1: kind of reduce their prices to sort of encourage more
Speaker 1: consumption of impossible meat. But a lot of people like
Speaker 1: you know, speculating around like when when is there going
Speaker 1: to be a tipping point where these like these alternative
Speaker 1: meats become you know, more highly adopted. And again it's
Speaker 1: always been about price. They said, if if it becomes
Speaker 1: just as cheap as beef, then will probably begin to
Speaker 1: see an uptake in it. And like right now, a
Speaker 1: lot of people project that alternative meats could be around
Speaker 1: up to between eleven and two of global meat eating.
Speaker 1: Right now, it's like not even it's like a not
Speaker 1: even fraction of a percent. So you know what is
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a flip of a light switch type change.
Speaker 1: Well it's you know, it's not so easy. So this
Speaker 1: student who was working on their PhD project at u
Speaker 1: c l A sort of used the dining hall u
Speaker 1: c l A as her experimental lab because at the
Speaker 1: u c l A dining hall, impossible meat and like
Speaker 1: a regular beef, they're off. Those items are offered at
Speaker 1: the exact same price, so there's nothing more expensive to
Speaker 1: go for the like meat alternative. And so what she
Speaker 1: saw was when they sort of unrolled or began to
Speaker 1: premier these impossible meat tackles and burritos and salads and
Speaker 1: things like that, students about nine percent fewer animal based entrees.
Speaker 1: But on the other side of it was sales of
Speaker 1: vegetarian meals declined by four percent. And so this is
Speaker 1: something a lot of experts have feared, was that essentially
Speaker 1: that it's sort of reinforcing this idea that we have
Speaker 1: a meat center diet no matter what, like, well, if
Speaker 1: it's not real meat, there needs to be fake meat
Speaker 1: because you've gotta have meat in your diet, not not
Speaker 1: really people saying oh, we don't. We can also embrace
Speaker 1: like staple vegetables as well, and there was like this again,
Speaker 1: a food eating trend being seen from They looked at
Speaker 1: when chicken and seafood became more available than other meats,
Speaker 1: American didn't. Americans didn't eat less beef or pork per capita.
Speaker 1: They just ate more meat overall. And that's what's happening
Speaker 1: around the world. We're like exporting this thing. So it's
Speaker 1: it's tricky. Yeah, I mean I feel like I fall
Speaker 1: in line with that where I I get impossible burgers
Speaker 1: when I want an impossible burger, Like, hey, I will
Speaker 1: just crave that. It's not that I'm like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is me making a more healthy choice. It's just like
Speaker 1: sometimes I'm like, no, I wanted impossible burger, so I'll
Speaker 1: do that, and I'm not helping the world. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: the same. I love I love impossible. That's my favorite
Speaker 1: of the meat alternatives. But the way we all work
Speaker 1: is people and just how things are marketed to us.
Speaker 1: It's clear, especially for Americans, like the idea of meat
Speaker 1: being a thing you eat to have your complete diet
Speaker 1: has just been like just rammed into our skulls from birth,
Speaker 1: and a lot of the experts like it's not just
Speaker 1: so much as being able to offer cheap alternatives to beef.
Speaker 1: It's like we have to de emphasize it to like
Speaker 1: culturally in saying like yeah, like when you do, you know,
Speaker 1: your fake food pyramid for kids, like not having to
Speaker 1: sort of reinforce the ideas like you've gotta be eating
Speaker 1: that beef though, you know what I mean if you
Speaker 1: want to grow kids, because it's not exactly getting the
Speaker 1: same outcomes. And also, like we have a lot of
Speaker 1: subsidies the government. There's a lot of government subsidies that
Speaker 1: sort of keep this industry operating in the same suboptimal
Speaker 1: way that it is. So more than that, it's like
Speaker 1: we gotta kind of legislate this stuff to make it
Speaker 1: work properly. But yeah, you know, I mean to make
Speaker 1: the food pyramid that we grew up on include two
Speaker 1: to three daily servings of meat, Yeah, probably, I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, it's like you should have me
Speaker 1: at the bottom is just all bread stuff. It's like
Speaker 1: like there's like twelve servings of bread and then it
Speaker 1: like makes space at the top for in some sweets,
Speaker 1: you know, candy, which I don't think is like a
Speaker 1: necessary part of any diet. Yeah, candy, yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: it's part of like for like more of like a
Speaker 1: happiness diet. You know, give yourself a little candy. But
Speaker 1: I mean, who knows the way that how these sort
Speaker 1: of f d A charts are like created you. I'm
Speaker 1: surprised it wasn't like and you gotta have three Hershey
Speaker 1: bars every week too to keep your bones strong. But
Speaker 1: as a kid, that is how I saw. I'd be like, mom,
Speaker 1: look at the top of the pyramid it has he's
Speaker 1: a candy of you gotta have dessert. That is like
Speaker 1: a mandatory. It's an impossible amount of food. Speaking of impossible,
Speaker 1: it's like, all right, six to eleven servings of bread, cereal, rice,
Speaker 1: and pasta. That's so many fun what eleving serving? I
Speaker 1: would be like, I wouldn't be able to move if
Speaker 1: I had eleven servings of and like the secret here
Speaker 1: the reason they're able to get away with this is
Speaker 1: because like a serving is actually really small. But that's
Speaker 1: but you won't know that, you, Okay, a slice of
Speaker 1: bread is one serving. So let me eat this half
Speaker 1: a loaf, eat five pineapples, three heads of cabbage for
Speaker 1: fucking big turkey, legs, a cheese wheel and a little
Speaker 1: drizzle of maple syrup on it right there. It's like
Speaker 1: this idea that you can eat your way to healthiness,
Speaker 1: like by just getting all these different things in and
Speaker 1: it's just like, actually, the thing that needs to be
Speaker 1: emphasized is like eating a little bit less we consume.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's a thing. It's it's it's all a
Speaker 1: great funnel to just get people to like consume, consume, consume, consume.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, we're big fans of live musical theater
Speaker 1: here at Daily Zeitgeist, and we got a new one
Speaker 1: on it that just popped up on our radar. It's
Speaker 1: a performance of Oklahoma, and it stars James O'Keefe. Yeah,
Speaker 1: one of miles you were saying, one of your favorite
Speaker 1: musical theater, one of my favorite conservative grifters, James O'Keeffe.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you remember around the early part of
Speaker 1: my political career, he hit we hit the scene at
Speaker 1: the same time around two thousand nine, because he he
Speaker 1: got famous for smearing that group Acorn, like he really
Speaker 1: doctored killing it. Yeah, yeah, you know, I mean he
Speaker 1: essentially got them to pull like their federal funding and
Speaker 1: collapsed it until afterwards people in investigation like this guy
Speaker 1: edited the funk out of these videos and completely misrepresented
Speaker 1: what happened, but he was still like god him, Yes,
Speaker 1: that's did you get for helping Obama? Was essentially the
Speaker 1: thrust of his motivation. And then if you remember, then
Speaker 1: he went on to bigger things. There's Project Veritas, which
Speaker 1: is like that same stupid investigative organization quote unquote, just
Speaker 1: a group of assholes with some fucking sackler money or whatever,
Speaker 1: whoever the fun they're getting their money. One of the
Speaker 1: one of the best like names of an evil org
Speaker 1: like projects, Yeah, you gotta love it. And then the
Speaker 1: one of the last ones was when Roy Moore was
Speaker 1: running for senator in Alabama and everyone's like, this guy
Speaker 1: is a fucking sex criminal, and yet the GOP was like, yeah, maybe, no,
Speaker 1: no, no no, he's our best shot. Though, so don't want
Speaker 1: to just ignore all the other allegations about let's just
Speaker 1: go straight ahead. O'Keefe tried to set sting the Washington
Speaker 1: Post with a fake accuser to get them to run
Speaker 1: a story, but because their journalists like they just very
Speaker 1: quickly determined that this person was fake and then counter
Speaker 1: stung him and got him on video being like you
Speaker 1: tried it and you didn't do it, so funck off.
Speaker 1: And he's also banned from Twitter. Anyway, all that to
Speaker 1: say is I think he won them a pulitzer, by
Speaker 1: the way. After that, he like just made made a
Speaker 1: bunch of people's career by being like so bad at
Speaker 1: the staff, right, Yeah, And so then he got banned
Speaker 1: from Twitter because he's just a big misinformation spreader and
Speaker 1: he he had this track come out. I don't know
Speaker 1: if we covered it to the tune of Prince's controversy,
Speaker 1: but it was, oh the garky, And I just want
Speaker 1: to refresh everyone's memory just briefly, because I wonder remind
Speaker 1: people he is not talented and he shouldn't be doing
Speaker 1: anything up here promoting misinformation. Reporters that the Portas Project
Speaker 1: Aratas was part of the porting to Stanford restsform disinformation.
Speaker 1: So this video is him James O'Keeffe like wearing the
Speaker 1: lamest outfit. Like he's got like black jeans, black belt,
Speaker 1: black T shirt on and there's a lot of Korea. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it looks it's very like everyone else's just in T shirts.
Speaker 1: And then he's like Danny Yeah, it's Sandra Dee and
Speaker 1: in the final part of Greece when she comes back edgy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but if that was being performed by history is worst
Speaker 1: dancing with the star contestant. He looks so uncomfortable and
Speaker 1: is just like you can see that he's consciously placing
Speaker 1: his hand with every movement, like as somebody who's very
Speaker 1: self conscious about my hands. I I see a fellow
Speaker 1: person who doesn't know what to do with their hands.
Speaker 1: It's important to know he has a boom box on
Speaker 1: his shoulder. Yeah, and that's how that's how you know
Speaker 1: this is something musical. And then there's like some I
Speaker 1: just want to play a little bit of his dancing
Speaker 1: really quick. Okay, it's not good. It's Wait, so are
Speaker 1: they saying because they are organization that is funded by billionaires?
Speaker 1: Like what is he thinking oligarchy is? Come on? Well,
Speaker 1: well Jack, come on, I didn't come with a you
Speaker 1: or something going on. I'm just so confused. What what
Speaker 1: does he think the oligarchy is? He's you know how
Speaker 1: it's always with conservatives. It's selective, right, so you only
Speaker 1: acknowledge the oligarchy that is diametrically opposed to your belief
Speaker 1: system rather than the one that you are sort of
Speaker 1: being fungt by. Right, he has upside down Twitter logo,
Speaker 1: so I imagine they're the oligarchy. Yeah, because they banned him, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because they banned him, right, right, So that's why, that's
Speaker 1: why he had to get mad at Yeah, you might
Speaker 1: have missed that little bit of symbolism in the video.
Speaker 1: It was pretty subtle because at first he was he
Speaker 1: was doing like a leg move that looked like what
Speaker 1: happens if I was sitting on the toilet for too
Speaker 1: long and my leg went to sleep and I had
Speaker 1: to stand up to get it going again. But I
Speaker 1: guess that's dancing for him. But Robin Panakia at Wanquet
Speaker 1: sort of pointed out this new thing that he's into
Speaker 1: because I hadn't seen it. This This guy, Brian Clothe
Speaker 1: this posted a tweet right that says, for a while
Speaker 1: I thought I would never create again. But I kept
Speaker 1: going and refused to let the woke mobs steal what
Speaker 1: I do best. We'll get to that in a second.
Speaker 1: Create art. Now, I'm officially back in the rehearsal room,
Speaker 1: giving fellow canceled artists jobs and with James O'Keefe as
Speaker 1: my leading man. Nonetheless, it's thrilling. And he posted a
Speaker 1: little clip from their rehearsal from Oklahoma, and again, James
Speaker 1: O'Keefe is a give. He's putting it all on the
Speaker 1: line for this rehearsal. So here's a quick quick taste
Speaker 1: of James O'Keefe in some I don't know version of
Speaker 1: some fucked up production of Oklahoma. This is the choreography
Speaker 1: is awful. We don't know what's happening. Okay, let me
Speaker 1: just spare everyone. Let me just spare everyone. That was
Speaker 1: That was some sloppy community theater and they chose he
Speaker 1: put that out. The guy was putting the show on
Speaker 1: put that out. But that wasn't like a leak video
Speaker 1: like it has the It has the vibe of like
Speaker 1: that Mitt Romney, like somebody's somebody snuck into one of
Speaker 1: those fundraisers to hear what he really thinks about poor
Speaker 1: people type ship. But there, this is the best they've looked.
Speaker 1: I will they did have the vocals. I will say, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's some ringers in there. I mean the one guy
Speaker 1: who looked like the like proud boy who like you're
Speaker 1: not sure why he joined the Proud Boys but he
Speaker 1: clearly cut his hair to be one like he looked
Speaker 1: like he was. Probably he knows how to perform a
Speaker 1: bit along with like the retired like truck driver guy.
Speaker 1: This cast is truly an ensemble cast canceled our right,
Speaker 1: So to that point, right, Brian clots like who is
Speaker 1: this guy? Being like, Oh, I'm thank god I get to,
Speaker 1: you know, give canceled artists a platform. This man is
Speaker 1: a First of all, he's a political candidate for the
Speaker 1: Florida House and also a disgraced theater director, which I
Speaker 1: feel like they sound like prerequisites for each other, Like
Speaker 1: you can't run for Florida House unless you are a
Speaker 1: disgraced theater director, and you can't be a disgrace theater
Speaker 1: director unless you ran for the Florida State legislature at
Speaker 1: some point. But this guy, he has basically been He
Speaker 1: was outed from a theater company that he started because
Speaker 1: he just has this like abusive and hyper demanding directing
Speaker 1: style that everyone's like, this is counterintuitive to actually making arts.
Speaker 1: So I just want to point a couple of things out.
Speaker 1: First of all, he did a sexy version of Pocahontas,
Speaker 1: which he said was much realer to like reality than
Speaker 1: like most people would believe. And one of the people
Speaker 1: who was performing there, I think who was playing pocon
Speaker 1: Is said quote. Reported that during rehearsals, she had several
Speaker 1: calls with Quotas, who told her that he wanted to
Speaker 1: quote happy version of Pocahon's life, sent notes about making
Speaker 1: the title character quote sexier and insisted on adding upbeat
Speaker 1: songs for more disney esque version. Also several there were
Speaker 1: there were several ocean violations that they saw occurring during
Speaker 1: this production, but when she expressed concerns, she said a
Speaker 1: production manager threatened her with violence in a production meeting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this dude was like getting a lot of positive press
Speaker 1: for like doing these like big stunts. Like I think
Speaker 1: he did a play where what's the what's the one
Speaker 1: that has the helicopter? Is that Miss Saigon? I think so?
Speaker 1: So he had a real helicopter land and like they
Speaker 1: did a performance of a Titanic play where they actually
Speaker 1: like sunk a boat in a lake, which we're about
Speaker 1: to talk about. So like he was getting just like
Speaker 1: cheap stunts, you know, but the sort of a comedian.
Speaker 1: You're gonna say that about p t Anderson when Daniel
Speaker 1: Day Lewis fell down that fucking mind shaft and there
Speaker 1: will be blood and actually broke his leg. Or Chris Nolan,
Speaker 1: who wants to do everything in camera. This guy's a
Speaker 1: fucking visionary. Okay, this is why in that Titanic musical
Speaker 1: he demanded that people do a forty foot jumped into
Speaker 1: a twelve foot deep pit of stagnant water that he
Speaker 1: dug to have the effect of people like falling to
Speaker 1: their deaths during the sinking of the Titanic. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: everybody remembers the dude pinging off of the propeller like that.
Speaker 1: That's the only person we remember from that from that
Speaker 1: film that in the couple that was holding each other
Speaker 1: as the water was rising in their bed. Obviously a tragedy.
Speaker 1: But in their reports about this Titanic document or play,
Speaker 1: they said, quote Clotis did not want to employ on
Speaker 1: site E M. T. S, so the tech staff had
Speaker 1: to get some of the cast certified as lifeguards. But
Speaker 1: there was a snag here too, Estis said, this is
Speaker 1: the person reporting on Clotis refused to let some of
Speaker 1: the people suggested be certified as lifeguards because they did
Speaker 1: not fit the quote Baywatch body type that quotas demanded Titanic, like,
Speaker 1: that's the first thing you need when on the Titanic
Speaker 1: gets a fucking worse. So that fucking weird pool that people,
Speaker 1: he was saying had to do forty ft jumps in
Speaker 1: to injure themselves, they're going to say, quote the run
Speaker 1: of Titanic. Lad actor Robert Wayne to spend nine days
Speaker 1: in the hospital. After spending some time in the bacteria
Speaker 1: filled pond that housed the production, the actor's leg, already
Speaker 1: bitten by a mosquito, started to swell, and eventually his
Speaker 1: quadriceptendon burst. He was unable to work for six months.
Speaker 1: That's like, that's the worst nightmare. That's like what you like,
Speaker 1: you get a mosquito bite. That's like what everyone fears
Speaker 1: or is like that's my fear. Oh yeah, I was
Speaker 1: afraid of lakes. Yeah, look at that. I need the
Speaker 1: water has to be moving. Even though I remember the
Speaker 1: first time I went to like a camp where it
Speaker 1: was like, hey, we're going to the lake. I'm like
Speaker 1: it looks all green in there, like is that safe?
Speaker 1: And then I watched all these like white kids like
Speaker 1: cannon ball into it. I'm like, you just like flying
Speaker 1: over it? Like stagnant waters gross, right, and it's like, yo,
Speaker 1: make sure you make sure you shower off immediately or
Speaker 1: else you're gonna get swimmers itch all over. Yeah, I'm like,
Speaker 1: what is this? I think you just made that up?
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's what they called it up there, up there,
Speaker 1: and mission I'm saying that. I'm saying the camp counselors
Speaker 1: just made that up. Oh yeah maybe, but I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: it is my worst name. I've learned to get into
Speaker 1: natural bodies of water since. But it is like the
Speaker 1: kind of thing where you you're in a fucking Titanic play,
Speaker 1: but your bug bite and the cess pit you were
Speaker 1: performing and leads your pod recept to burst, like what's
Speaker 1: uh quadriss up to birth? Yeah, I never even heard
Speaker 1: of that. Yeah, I didn't think that that was possible.
Speaker 1: Now I get to live in the scary world where
Speaker 1: I know it's possible. Right, And now you're gonna look
Speaker 1: like Paul and Fiance where it's like a rubber suit
Speaker 1: to go into like the river, because you think just
Speaker 1: full mesh suits to anywhere and I'll yeah, I'll put
Speaker 1: a condom on because stuff can can swim up there
Speaker 1: in the Amazon River. It happens. There's old fish. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's all stuff that I'm horrified by. All right, let's
Speaker 1: take another quick break. We'll be right back, and we're back,
Speaker 1: and you know, the weekend and Monday, just horrifying scenes
Speaker 1: reports coming out of Afghanistan that you know, there's not
Speaker 1: not a ton to say other than you know, America
Speaker 1: should rightly be horribly embarrassed and held accountable for for
Speaker 1: everything that's happening. I do wonder if this is like
Speaker 1: the degree to which this has failed and the fact
Speaker 1: that it was sort of the like dubbed in the
Speaker 1: mainstream media is like the acceptable war on Terror, and
Speaker 1: now it's like we're seeing how just absolutely fucked. It's
Speaker 1: become like I I do wonder if this is going
Speaker 1: to actually like get into the zeitgeist and get into
Speaker 1: like people's opinions of like American military intervention because this ship, yeah,
Speaker 1: just our pattern of these little wars that drain resources
Speaker 1: and just completely unproductive militarism and occupation policies. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: Like it's funny the already conservatives like have their own
Speaker 1: ideas when most people are like, no, it was a
Speaker 1: failure when we fucking started it. That was the fucking problem,
Speaker 1: and no amount of whatever whatever you think could have
Speaker 1: solved it was going to do that because we're already
Speaker 1: going into a country and trying to force some like
Speaker 1: widespread ideological change to a place where people were like
Speaker 1: largely illiterate and had a system of like feudal war
Speaker 1: lords who are the ones like controlling certain reasons to
Speaker 1: be like no, no, you get a central government. People
Speaker 1: are gonna vote, They're gonna love it. Don't worry, we're
Speaker 1: America guys taking that hold on. Here's uh, here's money
Speaker 1: to for sorry if we blew up stuff, and here
Speaker 1: you can use this to keep to bribe people. Because
Speaker 1: the thing is, like everything, every step was completely fucked up,
Speaker 1: and now we have to look at more like the
Speaker 1: most horrifying ship right of people who are running towards
Speaker 1: planes because they see it that as their last fucking
Speaker 1: opportunity to avoid a certainly completely fucked up life under
Speaker 1: the rule of the Taliban, if not death. For in
Speaker 1: the instances of people that were assisting foreign nationals or whatever, like,
Speaker 1: that's apparently a thing that a lot of Taliban people
Speaker 1: are not asking, well, who was helping Like, who was
Speaker 1: helping foreigners. Yeah, and it's just it's it's it's it's
Speaker 1: hard to think that this was going to end well
Speaker 1: at any point, but to see it now like at
Speaker 1: its end, full end point, with just total collapse, it's
Speaker 1: just it's heartbreaking. I think it's been interesting to also
Speaker 1: kind of see people have this revisionist history over who
Speaker 1: was fighting against this from the beginning, Like there's there's
Speaker 1: been all these articles saying like nobody was protesting against it,
Speaker 1: like nobody did, and it's like that's not true, Like
Speaker 1: all these people like what are you talking about? You know,
Speaker 1: we were not okay with this, And like even as
Speaker 1: a kid, I remember that there were people on Twitter
Speaker 1: who were sharing the like Disney propaganda videos like After
Speaker 1: Night eleven, Remember they like had all the Disney stars
Speaker 1: make videos that were like going to war is like
Speaker 1: my Disney dream. Like they literally had like shyl Above
Speaker 1: and Hillary Duff and all of these like Disney celebs
Speaker 1: like trying to convince children like war is dope. And
Speaker 1: even I remember as a kid being like this is weird,
Speaker 1: Like this is not okay, Like why is Shila buff
Speaker 1: reading me a poem about how like it's good to
Speaker 1: send people to Afghanistan, like yeah, like it just I don't.
Speaker 1: I think it's just like one of those really intense
Speaker 1: examples of like when America came together in just every
Speaker 1: regard like propaganda machines for children teenagers. Everyone just like
Speaker 1: was like, we have to push this idea and everyone
Speaker 1: was like oh, everyone was like no, this is horrible.
Speaker 1: This is a bad idea. Remember the Gulf War and
Speaker 1: they made Ninja turtle toys that were like after the
Speaker 1: Armed Forces because I had like a Air Force Donna
Speaker 1: Tello ship in like Desert Camo and stuff, and I'll
Speaker 1: like what At the time, I was like, oh, cool,
Speaker 1: the Ninja turtles come in Armed Forces the additions now,
Speaker 1: but I was like, cool, this is another Ninza Turtle toy,
Speaker 1: not realizing oh, right, that's me playing with figures that
Speaker 1: I'm are going to be echoed back to me on
Speaker 1: a television screen where I'm getting a version where like
Speaker 1: my parents like that's Bush doing all this, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: what's going on anyway? Here? I was. I just thought
Speaker 1: I was enjoying the film Cadet Kelly and it's in
Speaker 1: alternated with a love of the military, right, and You're like, wow, now,
Speaker 1: I have an irrational fear of anyone who's not a
Speaker 1: white Christian American. And it's wild to to see people
Speaker 1: like Barbara Lee, who in Congress, she was, I believe,
Speaker 1: the only vote against the authorization for use of military
Speaker 1: force in Afghanistan, the only one to say no in
Speaker 1: two thousand one. And now she's out here, like I
Speaker 1: fucking told you at the time, because she got fucking
Speaker 1: dragged for the ship that she said, because she was
Speaker 1: truly like, I don't see a military solution for what
Speaker 1: happened with nine eleven. Going to occupy Afghanistan is not
Speaker 1: the solution to this larger picture we had. And to
Speaker 1: think that twenty years ago it was one person, because
Speaker 1: one black woman was the only person who said, are
Speaker 1: you what the fuck? No? But ship? And here we
Speaker 1: are now like asking these questions like what what went wrong,
Speaker 1: rather than broadening out to we should know this is
Speaker 1: this was so wrong from the beginning, right, And if
Speaker 1: you had taken every cent that was spent on military
Speaker 1: intervention and put that towards investing in infrastructure and just
Speaker 1: giving money to the people of Afghanistan to spend it
Speaker 1: as they think would best benefit their society, like I
Speaker 1: mean two trillion dollars we spent. Yeah, you know, it's
Speaker 1: a ton and and and all because we didn't we
Speaker 1: didn't bother to understand the nuances of another culture and
Speaker 1: then just essentially just gave homad cars. I just said, yo, man,
Speaker 1: if you've got to pay these people to figure it out,
Speaker 1: then do how much guys you need as you gotta get.
Speaker 1: And then you wonder why it completely collapses when the
Speaker 1: in the US leaves because they weren't. It was all
Speaker 1: band aid fixes on top of like a deep sucking
Speaker 1: wound that needed like some something other than just sort
Speaker 1: of this idea of like neoliberalism and fucking democracy and
Speaker 1: this other ship. You're not gonna get like institutional, like
Speaker 1: deep cultural changes when you're pointing guns that the people
Speaker 1: and like don't actually respect them as people, which seems
Speaker 1: right the way that h And now we have to
Speaker 1: live with the shame of you know, because look, I
Speaker 1: didn't vote for the Iraq war any of that ship
Speaker 1: or whatever, but I'm a I'm a conscious American person
Speaker 1: and to see the just fear and how dejected and
Speaker 1: just dead these people feel that they have no options
Speaker 1: is horrifying and it's it just makes you comple. I
Speaker 1: mean again, most people who have some level of awareness
Speaker 1: about American foreign policy was never gonna be like, I
Speaker 1: can't believe America did this, because that most of history
Speaker 1: is like, yeah, I can believe America today. Yeah, America
Speaker 1: loves doing this ship right, and now I'm looking at it,
Speaker 1: I'm like it. But then you see this version people
Speaker 1: are clinging to planes that are taking off like that's
Speaker 1: not even that's not someone who has options because that
Speaker 1: there's no way in your mind you go, Okay, I
Speaker 1: can hold onto this plane up into the sky to
Speaker 1: wherever it goes down. But in that moment, that's your
Speaker 1: only option. It's it's just horrific. But yeah, I hope
Speaker 1: Jack that this maybe people will see it, But I
Speaker 1: don't know how much of that footage you're gonna see
Speaker 1: on mainstream news that I mean, there are stuff where
Speaker 1: they show a lot of people going to the like
Speaker 1: air like the airport and couple, but where is there
Speaker 1: going to be the accompanying commentary from the media to say,
Speaker 1: like rather than being like, well, you know, if actually,
Speaker 1: if George Bush did this and Obama did this and
Speaker 1: Trump did this, better than maybe it doesn't happen. Rather
Speaker 1: than being like, nope, but this is this is this
Speaker 1: is how failed us warrn balls. He works time and
Speaker 1: again at leaves a trail of bodies behind. Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: a twenty seven year old the first, the youngest and
Speaker 1: first female mayor in Afghanistan, Zarifa Gafari, who as as
Speaker 1: recently as three weeks ago was like, you know, there
Speaker 1: are progressive people in Afghanistan and in Kabul. I feel
Speaker 1: like we might be able to like pull something off.
Speaker 1: And now she's like, Oh, I'm just sitting here waiting
Speaker 1: for them to come. There's no one to help me
Speaker 1: and my family. I'm just sitting with them and my husband.
Speaker 1: They will come for people like me and kill me.
Speaker 1: I can't leave my family anyway. Where would I go?
Speaker 1: That's a direct quote. And then she couldn't talk anymore
Speaker 1: and her her dad was killed by the Taliban last year.
Speaker 1: They've the Taliban has made three attempts on her life.
Speaker 1: It's yeah, it's just like they the U. S. Military
Speaker 1: goes over there and it's almost like they're working with
Speaker 1: the Taliban to like reveal who who's like not on
Speaker 1: board with the Taliban, and then they leave like, all right,
Speaker 1: there's your there's your rats, here's your targets, Like, here's
Speaker 1: all the people that you're gonna want to talk to
Speaker 1: you after we leave. Yeah, just yeah, And I you'd
Speaker 1: hope that, I mean, the the US would have a
Speaker 1: real concentrated effort to evacuate people, especially those that you know,
Speaker 1: put themselves in harm's way to help this completely misinformed
Speaker 1: and fucked up military campaign. But no, just abandoning them.
Speaker 1: It's just I don't know, I mean, if you don't
Speaker 1: have enough reasons to feel ashamed of this place, then
Speaker 1: my god, watching people with no option left because the
Speaker 1: US abandon them is good place story, all right. And finally,
Speaker 1: what is obviously not the most important news story in
Speaker 1: the world right now, but perhaps is the most important
Speaker 1: Taco Bell based story Taco Bell, is how do we pivot?
Speaker 1: I don't know, Man's here's a new American shame Taco Bell,
Speaker 1: micro military And if you're still not ashamed enough Taco Bell.
Speaker 1: So there there's been an overall shift in our or
Speaker 1: fast food consuming habits toward drive throughs during the pandemic.
Speaker 1: And you know this is after in nineteen there was
Speaker 1: there was an overall movement towards like trying to get
Speaker 1: rid of drive throughs because they're ecologically bad. They're bad
Speaker 1: for the health. Not only are the people consuming the
Speaker 1: fast food, but the people who live around there and
Speaker 1: work around there because it's just a lot of idling cars.
Speaker 1: But now that consumer habits have temporarily changed, the fast
Speaker 1: food industry is just doubling down, and Taco bells at
Speaker 1: the forefront with this what's being called Taco bell defy
Speaker 1: for some reason. But yeah, like I said, it looks
Speaker 1: like a car wash that's run by daft punk. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it looks like the old banks, Like like I like
Speaker 1: when my mom would take me to do her errands
Speaker 1: and the old yeah, the tube and they send it.
Speaker 1: It looks just like that, right, It feels like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: what you know, the future of just hyper consumption would
Speaker 1: be it's like, and drive through your calorie dispensing booth
Speaker 1: and they'll just shoot a bunch of gorditas into your window. Yeah,
Speaker 1: who needs taco bell this quickly? I just I can't
Speaker 1: imagine any situation where I'm like, I need it so fast. Damn.
Speaker 1: I wish they had three more drive through lanes, just
Speaker 1: like shoot it directly into my car in like this,
Speaker 1: this like proprietary vertical lift system they're using to like
Speaker 1: lower your food to you. Are they trying to patent
Speaker 1: the dumb waiter like that. That seems like they're trying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it just I'm just kind of like, I don't feel
Speaker 1: like you've discovered anything new here, Taco Bell, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: just to get more people. I mean they're already facing
Speaker 1: a ton of shortages with supply things. But hey, defy
Speaker 1: all the expectations I guess with this format, why is
Speaker 1: it called defer? Like is there even logic to around
Speaker 1: the word defy? I mean that's like the cliche thing
Speaker 1: that everybody in the world of capitalism like they want
Speaker 1: to defy and disrupt and like defying your ability to
Speaker 1: eat Taco Bell slowly, like disrupt the relative piece people
Speaker 1: had before five lane driving troops, Like defying your ability
Speaker 1: to see the people who make your food as humans
Speaker 1: and just making you think, all, yeah, oh my god,
Speaker 1: did you did you know us? Yeah? It's like you
Speaker 1: scan a quere code. You don't even order through a
Speaker 1: human now, right, Yeah, you go, you order on the app,
Speaker 1: you drive up, scan a QR code and and like
Speaker 1: I heard, like really nice music place so you don't
Speaker 1: hear the screams from Yeah, it's a very pleasant experience.
Speaker 1: You just get your stuff to keep your eyes ahead
Speaker 1: and keep moving. And just on the one hand, as
Speaker 1: someone who's worked in a quick service restaurant, that is
Speaker 1: kind of the like you never have to deal with
Speaker 1: an actual customer. I like on that side, I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: I guess like like I would just be messing around
Speaker 1: with my friends in the robot taco bell kitchen right exactly,
Speaker 1: and someone who's upset about missing item, like we just
Speaker 1: have to talk to a faceless window that just like
Speaker 1: it's like, cannot compute your order. Not fuck off somebody
Speaker 1: saying that on the other line on the other end
Speaker 1: of that, just so it sounds like a robot funk
Speaker 1: out of here, man, I get paid enough to funk
Speaker 1: with this bullshit and get your tired as busted car
Speaker 1: the funk out of here before come out there smack
Speaker 1: to shoot out you. It's like, oh, it's pretty so McDonald's.
Speaker 1: You know, drive through visits grew by in the spring
Speaker 1: of and drive through orders accounted for nine of their
Speaker 1: sales in the second quarter. That's yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: can be I don't know. I mean I live in
Speaker 1: l A, So I have a car. I drive everywhere,
Speaker 1: and I definitely wish every place had drive through, Like
Speaker 1: I I was never person Yeah, I mean the thing
Speaker 1: about me is that I never want bad food from
Speaker 1: drive through. I'm like, can can like good restaurants have
Speaker 1: drive well? Funny you ask, because some of our finest
Speaker 1: dining institutions, Applebee's and Chippotle are opening their own drive
Speaker 1: through options. That one sounds dangerous, but I feel like
Speaker 1: anytime I go to apple Bee's it's because I want
Speaker 1: to drink a fish bowl of alcohol, right, Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's so, which is yeah, weird because it's like, you
Speaker 1: don't you kind of go to Applebee's for the experience.
Speaker 1: I mean, just say it, but you go on. You
Speaker 1: want the ambiance, you get to eat good in the neighborhood. Literally,
Speaker 1: you're driving around in the neighborhood neighing and drinking, drinking
Speaker 1: a big gulp of booze. Chipotle, though, I feel like
Speaker 1: you could go really slow, like yeah, I've seen how
Speaker 1: slow people are to build a burrito bowl sometimes. Like
Speaker 1: that another QR code situation that they better QR code
Speaker 1: that ship because Yeah, that's like as to just be
Speaker 1: like you said it all up ahead of time, because
Speaker 1: people I don't understand how it's one of my beers
Speaker 1: in Chipotle open people are still like that, baffled by
Speaker 1: their situation and process. It's weird. One of my weaknesses
Speaker 1: is being behind somebody who's taking too long to order
Speaker 1: fast food, like I'll fucking turn into the Hulk, Like
Speaker 1: I don't understand when people are there with like their
Speaker 1: hands on their hips looking at a menu bore like, huh, now,
Speaker 1: what do you do? You like this? The chicken fries?
Speaker 1: Are they good? What's your favorite? God? Fucking they don't
Speaker 1: give a fuck. I'm here because I want a self
Speaker 1: hatred meal quickly, sir, please, I would have. The last
Speaker 1: time I went to chipol I was behind someone who
Speaker 1: was like detailed asking them to explain the difference between
Speaker 1: the burrito bowl and the salad, which, if you know
Speaker 1: anything about Chipole, they are the exact same thing. On
Speaker 1: the salad are the same? Yeah, the salad comes with dressing,
Speaker 1: that is the only difference. And she was literally like, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: break this down one more time. What is the salad happening?
Speaker 1: It's like, make it yourself. What are you doing? You're
Speaker 1: seeing what I'm just putting it in this bowl. And
Speaker 1: then if I give you this other little dressing cup,
Speaker 1: that just re contextualizes it. Yeah, that's what, So then
Speaker 1: it's a salad suddenly. But if if you take that,
Speaker 1: it's just the goddamn bowl. It's just the bole they
Speaker 1: are trying to. Like, So, Burger King has this like
Speaker 1: big brother like AI sa them called Deep Flame that
Speaker 1: pushes foods that are popular in the area that day,
Speaker 1: or might be popular because of the weather. Um they
Speaker 1: like basically are just using algorithms to put all this
Speaker 1: data in and then tell you what it thinks you want.
Speaker 1: I don't know why I would care what Burger King
Speaker 1: thinks I want. I would just go there. You get
Speaker 1: all self conscious because it projects your ordering, like like
Speaker 1: I would never get that. First of all, I don't
Speaker 1: think that fish standwhich is good at Burger King. I
Speaker 1: don't know why I did that. McDonald's is acquiring an
Speaker 1: Israeli artificial intelligence firm called Dynamic Yield. Tim Hortons and
Speaker 1: Popeyes are also rolling out predictive personalized systems, so they're
Speaker 1: like going in a real minority report like direction. Yes, look,
Speaker 1: if if Raytheon, if Raytheon has to collab with Popeyes,
Speaker 1: so it will speed up to people figuring out that
Speaker 1: they just want red beans and rice the family size
Speaker 1: and can keep it moving the so be it the
Speaker 1: you know, the defense going tractors inevitably get part of it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like if that's what we need to get people to realize, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I want an iced coffee and I'm going to keep
Speaker 1: the burger king line moving. Like Okay, when someone goes
Speaker 1: to a place that's known for one thing and then
Speaker 1: you get something that has nothing to do with the place,
Speaker 1: that's another really frustrating experience. Right again, this is me
Speaker 1: raging out in my Mazda and a fast food tract
Speaker 1: tow line. So right, well, actually, it's been such a
Speaker 1: pleasure having you as always. Where can people find you
Speaker 1: and follow you? Uh, Twitter at the Ashley Ray, the
Speaker 1: with two Ease, Instagram at the Ashley Ray or just
Speaker 1: listen to t V. I say with Ashley Ray my
Speaker 1: my podcast the second season is coming back next week.
Speaker 1: And is there a tweet or some other work of
Speaker 1: social media you've been enjoying And I think a lot
Speaker 1: of people know I like post my weed spreads on Twitter,
Speaker 1: like my joint spreads in my case, And there was
Speaker 1: like one time I did it and all these people
Speaker 1: thought they were tampons for some reason, which I didn't like.
Speaker 1: People were like are there and I was like, no,
Speaker 1: they're joints, you idiots. And then there was like some
Speaker 1: girl who posted this like really beautiful picture of like
Speaker 1: decorative candles like long thin can and ever. Like I've
Speaker 1: gotten tagged eighty times, people just being like I thought
Speaker 1: these were your joints. I thought these were just tons
Speaker 1: of your joints. And so I love that I'm just
Speaker 1: so known as a stoner on Twitter that people just
Speaker 1: see like anything that looks like weed and they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: those must be Ashley's joints. There must be Actuley's like
Speaker 1: daily weed joint stash, and I'm just like, no, those
Speaker 1: are candles than the lineup of bowling pins. They're like,
Speaker 1: are those they're joints today? Okay? Wow? Well I think yeah,
Speaker 1: it's probably because the joint papers, those cones that you
Speaker 1: use are so colorful and not the standard like rob
Speaker 1: you know, organic paper with the filter ships everyone they're
Speaker 1: the most whimsical joints I've seen. Yes, listeners, if you've
Speaker 1: never seen one of my joint spread, it's it's a
Speaker 1: piece of art using natural veggie dyes to get beautiful papers.
Speaker 1: It's oh, that's what it is. Yeah. Yeah, So because
Speaker 1: people are always like, isn't this bad for your lungs,
Speaker 1: and it's like, no, good, look, I'm already incinerating matter.
Speaker 1: I'm already small, like ten joints a day. Okay, I
Speaker 1: think you know. Whatever damage is happening, it's happening. Miles.
Speaker 1: Where can people find you? What's the tweet you've been enjoying?
Speaker 1: Find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray.
Speaker 1: Also the other pod for twenty Day Fiance Weed and
Speaker 1: ninety Day Sophie, Alexander and I and you can catch
Speaker 1: that on twitch dot tv Slash four twenty Day Fiance
Speaker 1: to get those wonderful faded takes on reality. Some tweets
Speaker 1: that I like. First, one is from the New York
Speaker 1: Times pitch bot. It's at Doug Jay Balloon, but that's
Speaker 1: the name that they did just to take a little
Speaker 1: jab at the New York Times, and it said, we
Speaker 1: wanted to understand what's happening in Afghanistan. So we talked
Speaker 1: to three unvaccinated Trump supporters and Arby's in Harrisburg. Huh
Speaker 1: that sounds about right, um. And then another one from
Speaker 1: all of McGowan tweeted, if you have mommy and daddy issues,
Speaker 1: then it actually cancels out. You're good, it's true scientific. Yeah.
Speaker 1: A tweet I've been enjoying is from Liz Hanzett, anti capitalism,
Speaker 1: who tweeted, trend to conceal my not COVID cough like
Speaker 1: it's a zombie bite. We all feel a little bit sometimes. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I always had to be like, that's my it's weed,
Speaker 1: it's my weed. I'm like, I smoked a blunt and
Speaker 1: I had a bunch of wax in it. That's why
Speaker 1: I'm coughing this hard. Please just let me buy this
Speaker 1: red onion. And yeah, I was like in this apartment.
Speaker 1: But and you know, like you do the nice thing.
Speaker 1: You don't get in an elevator with people because you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't want to cry. If they insisted, they're like, no,
Speaker 1: it's fine, get the elevator with me and back and
Speaker 1: I step on I like got weed cough, and like
Speaker 1: it was just it was just like these people have
Speaker 1: to think I'm crazy and I said, be like, no,
Speaker 1: it's weet, I promise. I feel like everyone has to
Speaker 1: say that. Tell girl, we can smell it. We can
Speaker 1: you smell like a walking out? Like yeah? Uh Well,
Speaker 1: you can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore. Oh, Brian,
Speaker 1: you can find us on Twitter at Daily Zite. Guys,
Speaker 1: we're at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a
Speaker 1: Facebook fan page on a website, Daily zeit Geist dot com,
Speaker 1: where we post our episodes on our foot No, we
Speaker 1: link off to the information that we talked about in
Speaker 1: today's episode, as well as a song that we think
Speaker 1: you might enjoy. Miles, what song are we going to
Speaker 1: send people to check out to? That? Just a collaboration
Speaker 1: between some great Canadian musicians and Japanese artists, The Jonah
Speaker 1: Yano and Bad Bad Not Good together on this track
Speaker 1: called Goodbye Blue. Jonah's vocals are like really dope, kind
Speaker 1: of you know, James Blakey sort of you know, falsetto
Speaker 1: but hunting, but it's got a lot of emotion to it.
Speaker 1: And Bad Bad Not Good I mean as producers, as musicians,
Speaker 1: they're fucking undefeated. So just a great collaboration between the
Speaker 1: two so check this one out. It's called Goodbye Blue,
Speaker 1: all right, go check that out. The Daily Zeitgeis is
Speaker 1: a production of My Heart Radio. For more podcast from
Speaker 1: My heart Radio, visit the heart Radio app, Apple podcast,
Speaker 1: or where you find your favorite podcast. That's gonna do
Speaker 1: it for us this morning, but we are back this
Speaker 1: afternoon to tell you what's trending and we will talk
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