Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season one ninety nine,
Speaker 1: episode three of the Daily's Eight Guys, a production of
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Speaker 1: a deep dive into America's share consciousness. It's Wednesday, Auguste.
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Speaker 1: joined as always buy my co host, Mr Miles Grad
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Speaker 1: didn't care frogs a gay. Something changed Now your sperm
Speaker 1: is just waste. Man. I'm gonna get them to pay
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Speaker 1: that's a little thing. Um to the June of Anti
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Speaker 1: do it well Miles, We are thrilled to be joined
Speaker 1: in our third seat by my very first podcast co host.
Speaker 1: He is a brilliant filmmaker, writer, actor, comedian, and podcaster
Speaker 1: of course, who co founded uh Small Beings, which The
Speaker 1: A B Club called one of the best podcast networks
Speaker 1: and where you can hear a bunch of the talented
Speaker 1: people who we worked with at Cracked hosting shows. He
Speaker 1: was the head of video at Cracked start in, created
Speaker 1: most of the best videos and podcasts there, and was
Speaker 1: one of the first really great writers I found when
Speaker 1: I was working at Cracked. When I was starting that website,
Speaker 1: he was still just a mere boy, a mere lad.
Speaker 1: He is the brilliant and talented Michael Swim Michael Swam
Speaker 1: a k a. Tom Hanks's p fetish AK Mike. Sometimes
Speaker 1: people will hey, dip shit works really whatever? Oh my god,
Speaker 1: the energy. I'm bathing and thank you so much for
Speaker 1: the incredible intro. Fabulous to be here. Thanks for so
Speaker 1: great to have you. I mean, if you remember people
Speaker 1: who saw the San Francisco show, no that they you were,
Speaker 1: you were here a little bit of similar commentary on that.
Speaker 1: We dive deep into the year two thousand, the final
Speaker 1: year before everything went to crap. Yeah maybe that show,
Speaker 1: yeah triggered it all. Who knows. I blame the horizon
Speaker 1: so good. Yeah, we'll even listen to some of the
Speaker 1: jams from that year, some of them hold up just
Speaker 1: whole albums. We're just gonna play whole albums and not speaking.
Speaker 1: It's kind of yeah. Yeah, it'll be a lot like
Speaker 1: Kanye is listening tour that he did at the Mercedes
Speaker 1: Benz Arena where he just kind of stood there and
Speaker 1: listened to the album and walked around. That's mainly what
Speaker 1: you'll what you'll be paying for, So you guys need
Speaker 1: is like a girl's talk collab of all the a
Speaker 1: k a. S as like an album just cut Journey
Speaker 1: the hardest thing to listen to. Yeah, girls talk, hit
Speaker 1: us up. If you're not doing girls talk. I like
Speaker 1: how you did the whole parents been on that girl
Speaker 1: talk Dad. I like the Fishes. That's my favorite band,
Speaker 1: the jam band, the Fishes. I enjoy the Beatles, but
Speaker 1: they spell it properly. Forgot, that's my band, Michael. We
Speaker 1: are going to get to know you a little bit
Speaker 1: better in a moment. First, we're gonna tell our listeners
Speaker 1: a couple of things we're talking about. We're gonna check
Speaker 1: in with schools because school has started and much of
Speaker 1: these United States, so you know, kids are bringing COVID home.
Speaker 1: We'll just look at some stats. We will be shocked
Speaker 1: and amazed that the FDA approval has not turned out
Speaker 1: to be enough for anti bactors. I know, we we
Speaker 1: really had our Joe Biden said, here's the moment you've
Speaker 1: been waiting for. Yeah, we'll talk about Uber successfully duping voters,
Speaker 1: but apparently not the courts. We'll look at that million
Speaker 1: dollar video games story. Sometimes we fall for some bullshit
Speaker 1: news stories along with the rest of the mainstream media,
Speaker 1: and the idea that a super Mario sixty four cartridge
Speaker 1: sold for one point five six million dollars might have
Speaker 1: might have been respect We will look at the takeouts,
Speaker 1: chicken sandwich rankings, all of that, plenty more. But first, Michael,
Speaker 1: you know, we like to ask our guests, what is
Speaker 1: something from your search history? All right? Uh, you asked
Speaker 1: for it. So this is actually my not my last
Speaker 1: non work related search. I will say spoiler alert because
Speaker 1: this could easily spoil your day. This was searched in
Speaker 1: total earnestness. How far can gums recede before it's a
Speaker 1: big problem. That's my muster. That's that's what I'm googling
Speaker 1: out here in the limit streets. I'll tell you the
Speaker 1: scary fact that pops up is that gums do not heal.
Speaker 1: So if you need it, you know, if you ever
Speaker 1: needed a reason to switch from maybe everyone just inhalence
Speaker 1: to aim their gums with their tongues on this zoom
Speaker 1: car y, you know, rush right, get a water pick.
Speaker 1: I'm thirty six. Now things are different. Gotta google how
Speaker 1: far gums can recede and be just assaulted with a
Speaker 1: host of images that you can never airlines. Receding gums
Speaker 1: are receding. Water levels are receding. It's just just a
Speaker 1: recession all over. Everything's falling away from us. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: those won't come back, but they can heal. So and hey,
Speaker 1: here's the bad news. If your gums received too far,
Speaker 1: the surgery they do is they either scrape skin from
Speaker 1: the roof of your mouth and like patch it all around,
Speaker 1: or or they take skin from a cadaver and put
Speaker 1: it on there. I would, I would go to that
Speaker 1: doesn't go Yeah, wait, wait, wait, what is having a
Speaker 1: dead person's flesh in your mouths? Say that means fancy
Speaker 1: to you because you're like, who's doing going through all that?
Speaker 1: Like if you're broke, you're like, man, my gums are fucked,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like I'm done? And then
Speaker 1: and then you should go somewhere like real. You know.
Speaker 1: Procedures are like, well we can graft on cadaver gums
Speaker 1: onto you. Yeah, that's true. It's like coach class Dick Cheney,
Speaker 1: like you know how he got to steal somebody's heart, right,
Speaker 1: That's That's what I'm looking for. Just a healthy man's
Speaker 1: gums in my mouth. Get in there. Yeah, those a
Speaker 1: real dark rabbit hole. I may have. I may have
Speaker 1: priced some dentures just to see what I have. That story,
Speaker 1: and I hope it goes the wrong way. But I'm
Speaker 1: here to say, eat your weed, kids, eat it, just
Speaker 1: need it. Wait, So smoking it causes gum recession. I
Speaker 1: mean when you smoke, pluck our eyes. Smoked gums are
Speaker 1: basically yea. For about twenty years, I've been smoking lead
Speaker 1: as if. Every time it leaves my system, I forget
Speaker 1: what it feels like. I gotta check that's my m
Speaker 1: O a second. Yeah, still feel like, Yeah, it does
Speaker 1: my gums. I gotta go get some cat food. Better
Speaker 1: get it. Just a quick pipe hit real quick, al right,
Speaker 1: pet stores infinitely more interesting. Eases the every social interaction
Speaker 1: of every strength except this one, of course. Naturally, I've
Speaker 1: been sober for seventy two hours leading to this because
Speaker 1: the daily dry. Yeah, we make sure everybody has seventy
Speaker 1: two hours of sobriety and at least three hours in
Speaker 1: a sensory deprivation tank before we hit record h That's
Speaker 1: the only thing we'll allow. Yeah. The blood, you guys
Speaker 1: took a lot of blood. It left me, but you
Speaker 1: give me the don't tell Jack about that. We took
Speaker 1: the blood, but then we put in blood from our
Speaker 1: younger employees, so you have a blood. Boy. Yeah, what
Speaker 1: is something you think is overrated? I wanted to ask
Speaker 1: how many times have people said Marvel on this show
Speaker 1: in the overrated slot? Often people still into it because
Speaker 1: I don't know that. Yeah, I think it's just it's
Speaker 1: it's not like a constant thing. I think more than
Speaker 1: like overrated. Sometimes people just like I don't, I don't
Speaker 1: know it. I don't there's another thing having been steeped
Speaker 1: for work in pop culture, like my entire life. I
Speaker 1: just want us to find a new toy. So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna give the slot to Marvel fatigue, because honestly, I
Speaker 1: feel such strong Marvel fatigue that I had assumed it
Speaker 1: had come up on the show many many times by now.
Speaker 1: But I guess people are just domb and round. Well. Well,
Speaker 1: I think the difference is Jack and I are a
Speaker 1: unique blend of out of touch with the m c U.
Speaker 1: So we don't experience the fatigue because we already I
Speaker 1: already experienced fatigue when like a ninth thor film came out.
Speaker 1: I can't and now also like where I got good
Speaker 1: my pace at watching films she was like super slow,
Speaker 1: Like I'm a turtle when it comes to watching new movies,
Speaker 1: so like I don't also have the same like media intake,
Speaker 1: you know pace that a lot of other people do.
Speaker 1: So that's my appetite for Marvel stops at movies. And
Speaker 1: even then, I am treating Avengers End Game like it's
Speaker 1: a Russian novel. I'm halfway through it and like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I just like stopped because I couldn't. It was just
Speaker 1: too dance for you to dance exactly, it just didn't
Speaker 1: didn't have the time. So my my like, uh, Disney
Speaker 1: Plus is halfway through on Marvel End Game, but I
Speaker 1: think I have an idea of what happened, treating it
Speaker 1: like Infinity Stones just essentially yes, exactly nice. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a it's twofold because I'm not just sick of the formula,
Speaker 1: but I am sick of the formula. But it's also
Speaker 1: like working in the industry, it's a weird black hole
Speaker 1: that sucks up every like young independent director who has
Speaker 1: a very unique voice and just turns them into like, hey,
Speaker 1: we'll give you a Marvel thing or we'll give you
Speaker 1: a Jurassic World. And I'm sick of it, it's over.
Speaker 1: Can you handle it? Yeah? The school Tomorrow Marvel pipeline
Speaker 1: needs to be dismantled, right, or the sunset or the
Speaker 1: sun Dancer, the usc to Marvel pipeline, the chat yea
Speaker 1: Marvel pipeline. But you so for you, it's more just
Speaker 1: like you've gotten your fill and now you're just like
Speaker 1: I would like something different now like you for you
Speaker 1: just feel like it's worn thin and now you but
Speaker 1: you do have the oppetite for something. He's just something different.
Speaker 1: I have a limitless That's why the only reason I
Speaker 1: think it's okay for me to knock it is I'm
Speaker 1: there person like I have a limitless appetite for wacky, colorful,
Speaker 1: imaginative We're gonna go into space and punch this purple guy. Like,
Speaker 1: I'm on board. But every everyone just feels like it's
Speaker 1: made from the pieces of the previous one. In the
Speaker 1: way where I mean you can get into how these
Speaker 1: movies are made. They do previous on like the major
Speaker 1: effects shots, years before they bring the writers on. So
Speaker 1: the writers are like stringing together. They're like, well, we
Speaker 1: know a giant thing has to fall out of the sky,
Speaker 1: and we know she has to Parachute in Act three
Speaker 1: and then they'll write black Widow around it, and I
Speaker 1: just it's not interest thing. It's only a good system
Speaker 1: for getting one kind of movie. And I think we're
Speaker 1: seeing that. So you've watched them all because that has
Speaker 1: been I do watch them all for work. And what
Speaker 1: did you watch? A Suicide Squad, the Suice Side Squad,
Speaker 1: the New One. I don't mean to pantic, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is where I'm man. So I'm gonna get a
Speaker 1: lot of flak for if we're really going deep on
Speaker 1: overrated all the movies everyone likes right now, we're overrated.
Speaker 1: The Suicide Squad sucked. The Green Nights sucked. Like every movie,
Speaker 1: every movie everyone likes is bad and you're all you
Speaker 1: all just have your taste is blunted from the pandemic,
Speaker 1: is my opinion. M D movies are underperforming. TV is
Speaker 1: overperforming right now. Just go watch a series, because now, like,
Speaker 1: what is it? What was it when nine Total Strangers
Speaker 1: or nine the Nicole Kidman Hulu things. I don't even
Speaker 1: know it, but it's great. Every everyone, every show I
Speaker 1: hear about there, like Mayor of East Town, like I've
Speaker 1: never heard of it sounds phenomenal. Yeah, it's like nine
Speaker 1: Perfect Strangers is like they said, I was doing better
Speaker 1: numbers than how The Handmaid's Tale for Hulu. People Like,
Speaker 1: people were like this just terrible timing because White Lotus
Speaker 1: came out and it's like a similar ish vibe and
Speaker 1: that like people are in paradise and weird things are happening.
Speaker 1: But it could also just be one of those things
Speaker 1: where it's like White Lotus got people in the mood
Speaker 1: to just continue to binge on this ship. So you know,
Speaker 1: a list talent in a tropical environment being trippy? Do you?
Speaker 1: So you are into TV? What's the TV show? You're
Speaker 1: into Patriots? The last TV show I love, But that's
Speaker 1: like twelve years old now, so I gotta stop saying that. Yeah, Sopranos, Uh,
Speaker 1: you know the classics. I feel like I've officially left
Speaker 1: pop culture's key demographic and I went out with ship
Speaker 1: like Deadwood the Wire, Patriot was on the tail, and
Speaker 1: nothing's really wowed me. There's another one. I'll tell you
Speaker 1: his way overrated. Queen's Gambit suck. I think all these
Speaker 1: things suck or it's me and I'm wrong and I'm
Speaker 1: just becoming the guy who's like culture stopped for me
Speaker 1: and that's it. No good albums after that. Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: still a ton of stuff I'm excited for, like last
Speaker 1: night in Soho, the new EDG Right, I mean, I
Speaker 1: expect to blow me away, And I'll say in the
Speaker 1: world of video games, I'm much more excited. There's a
Speaker 1: bunch of stuff happening over on that side. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: Tiger King was definitely one of those things that when
Speaker 1: you look back on it didn't really make sense, help sessed.
Speaker 1: Everyone was about it. And I think Queen's Gambit just
Speaker 1: anything that's King or Queen related entitle that that was
Speaker 1: like a hack they figured out somehow. We were all
Speaker 1: just super into it. Atlanta comes to mind as like
Speaker 1: an all time great show that's not too Yeah, what's up?
Speaker 1: Do you think is underrated? Underrated? Well, speaking of at least, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say German speakers speaking English because I'm producing
Speaker 1: this big video game convention right now called games Calm
Speaker 1: that comes out of Cologne, Germany, and so all the
Speaker 1: contacts I work with are fine German folks, and man,
Speaker 1: there's just something so effortlessly like sensual about anything they say, like, uh,
Speaker 1: what do you think is the hype around this game?
Speaker 1: Is it much anticipated? Have you seen lots of hype
Speaker 1: on your social media's? Um? Like, the hype is in
Speaker 1: my heart because I love the sounds I'm hearing right now,
Speaker 1: and I know none of them will listen to this podcast,
Speaker 1: so I can make fun of their assence. But man, yeah,
Speaker 1: being I gotta recommend it. If you have the opportunity
Speaker 1: to be an English speaker in a room of twenty
Speaker 1: five German people who are speaking English at you, it's
Speaker 1: like it's like a foam party. Yeah. Sound, I think
Speaker 1: the German I think they like the bubbly, like the
Speaker 1: bouncinus of the German accent. I think Germans and underrated,
Speaker 1: like the actual sound of the language. People are always
Speaker 1: going Italian, French. I think German sounds really nice. M h.
Speaker 1: It's yeah, because I think people just give it credit,
Speaker 1: like credit it with being like kind of stark and
Speaker 1: you know, sprockets like this is rockets. But yeah, there
Speaker 1: there are some really expressive Mostly there are expressive German
Speaker 1: speaking well there Yeah, if they're speaking their native tongue,
Speaker 1: there tend to be a lot of glottal stops and
Speaker 1: a lot of continents, but you just gotta get them
Speaker 1: speaking English. Baby, that's he knocked that off. Speak to English.
Speaker 1: That's what's underrated, to speak English. Yeah, I hear. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I could get Captain America making those German POWs speaking
Speaker 1: Yankee talk to you. That's how you dunk on him.
Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, it's funny because you talk about like
Speaker 1: the bounty nous, like I have a few German speakers
Speaker 1: that I know who I speak with, and there is
Speaker 1: like this lightness to inflict the inflections that come out
Speaker 1: of seemingly are out of note like you're okay, I
Speaker 1: like what you did there, but there's also just like
Speaker 1: they're so even though too like there's not a lot
Speaker 1: of who like it's not just that, it's just like
Speaker 1: you get little and little valleys and hills and things
Speaker 1: like this, and you're just like this is poetic. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you might have to cut this whole section up because
Speaker 1: I'm I don't want people to realize that my dear
Speaker 1: daily is like Gus to the top of this is
Speaker 1: not accurate to the real German people, So we might
Speaker 1: have to cut all of this. Well, you give it,
Speaker 1: you give it sort of an Austrian twist. I think
Speaker 1: you can hear the dialect work that you've been doing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I put a lot of efforts more of a Viennese scream.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Is there any chance you're speaking with like
Speaker 1: particularly horny German people, Well, if the group off like honestly,
Speaker 1: if the groups, while they can all get it, first
Speaker 1: of all, these executives can all get it. But now
Speaker 1: I would say if the twenty five folks that I'm
Speaker 1: talking to our representative sample of the culture of Germany,
Speaker 1: they're less emotionally demonstrative than like we'll be in a
Speaker 1: you know, zoom conference and someone will deploy an objectively
Speaker 1: not good joke, but everyone on the American side will
Speaker 1: laugh like it's a dad joke, like a social lubricant.
Speaker 1: You made a joke, and the Germans will just not
Speaker 1: have it, you know, they'll just set sit straightforward, eyes locked,
Speaker 1: being like to what's a joke? All right? And stut
Speaker 1: because right next next time, Germans, all right, let's take
Speaker 1: a quick break and we will be right back. And
Speaker 1: we're back. And so our school rules around this country,
Speaker 1: and you know, it's a it's a challenging time for
Speaker 1: teachers for school administrators and for students who have to
Speaker 1: wear masks, but the anti factors among us are not helping.
Speaker 1: And there was a one thousand, eight hundred and ninety
Speaker 1: three students and staff reported to have contracted COVID during
Speaker 1: the first week of school in l A. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: that's because a parent group is trying to create their
Speaker 1: own mechanism for tracking stuff because there's not a lot
Speaker 1: of good data out there for parents to get to.
Speaker 1: And even before that, there was a lot of infections
Speaker 1: before the school you're started. And then you look at
Speaker 1: places like Oklahoma where they're straight you know, there's like
Speaker 1: no mask mandates there. There's this whole school district just
Speaker 1: had to shut down for two weeks. And we're only
Speaker 1: seeing the same thing over Whenever I just searched schools COVID,
Speaker 1: it's just always like the same theme of like, oh,
Speaker 1: huge outbreak here, gotta go remote, or like a school
Speaker 1: like or a county just being like, you know what,
Speaker 1: let's just keep going remote until we figure it out.
Speaker 1: That's like in responsible places. But overall, we're just seeing
Speaker 1: this combination of the delta variant and no masks and
Speaker 1: bringing kids together spelling not you know, at what every
Speaker 1: epidemiologists like, that's you know, this isn't a good idea,
Speaker 1: not a good idea. And now we're seeing like more
Speaker 1: reports to have like breakthrough COVID infections with kids bringing
Speaker 1: COVID home from school as being like, oh, yeah, well
Speaker 1: it's not affecting the child as much, but then they're
Speaker 1: around all their family members, even if they're vaccinated, just
Speaker 1: getting like not hospitalized levels of COVID but they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I felt like the worst sinus cold I've ever had.
Speaker 1: Things like that, and this one physicians said, quote time
Speaker 1: and again, we're seeing kids return to school and then
Speaker 1: come home either after an exposure or sick themselves. The
Speaker 1: virus sheds for a couple of days before the patient
Speaker 1: even has symptoms, and entire families are suddenly exposed. So
Speaker 1: it's the whole like period where it's communicable but like
Speaker 1: not detectable, symptomatic and not even detectable. That was the
Speaker 1: thing that surprised me when I was like dealing with
Speaker 1: an exposure was they were like, oh no, we gotta
Speaker 1: test it like between seven and ten days to make
Speaker 1: sure that we actually will be able to detect it.
Speaker 1: So it just seems like there's a lot of sloppiness
Speaker 1: with the testing, Like I really think increasingly as we
Speaker 1: have access to the vaccine, like that needs to be
Speaker 1: mandated and not like giving people the out of like
Speaker 1: giving a test from seventy two hours prior or whatever.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm in my medical my expert medical opinion, thank
Speaker 1: you so much for that. Yes, but that does seem
Speaker 1: to be the the direction things areheaded and or find
Speaker 1: a way to like fundamentally shift to educating our children remotely,
Speaker 1: Like this seems like I don't know what the system
Speaker 1: is because I understand parents who are like, lick, my kids,
Speaker 1: gotta get the funk out of here for a second. Um,
Speaker 1: Like we can't just be come dense into the housing
Speaker 1: that society has a lot of us all the time.
Speaker 1: So I don't know what that system is. But it
Speaker 1: seems to me that if we're gonna get out of
Speaker 1: many of the problems we face right now globally, there
Speaker 1: have to be fundamental societal changes that of a historic nature,
Speaker 1: like that will look back on and be like school
Speaker 1: used to be a thing that was building you did
Speaker 1: it like this now school it's not that it's whatever,
Speaker 1: Like I don't know what the answer is or I
Speaker 1: would not be a comedian. But there's gotta be a way.
Speaker 1: We have the internet, like there's gotta be a way
Speaker 1: to remotely like just shift that burden arena schooling. Just
Speaker 1: like ten k kids in here, we're getting these first
Speaker 1: grader fucking educations Like, yeah, ten foot radius around you,
Speaker 1: you're in a learning pot. It's all. It's all very difficult,
Speaker 1: and yeah, like to your point, we need hardcore societal
Speaker 1: change to address a lot of these situations. And we're
Speaker 1: dealing with people who are like I won't put cloth
Speaker 1: on my face for a little bit, or we just
Speaker 1: simply all have to do one simple thing for a
Speaker 1: month or whatever. But that's it's like it's just no,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, it's pretty hard to get sign ups
Speaker 1: for that. Yeah, that it is interesting that like I
Speaker 1: could see school, like the fact that kids all get
Speaker 1: together in the same like small room, get each other sick,
Speaker 1: come home, and get their parents sick. Like that's just
Speaker 1: a part of school, Like that's just every parent knows,
Speaker 1: like that happens. And like when somebody's out with the flu,
Speaker 1: people like, oh, their kids went back to school, Like
Speaker 1: that has been a thing forever, so I could see
Speaker 1: some eventual evolution to a non in person learning. But
Speaker 1: I also just know in talking to you know, family
Speaker 1: members who are teachers, that it is hellish to try
Speaker 1: and teach kids. And it's also like that's the other
Speaker 1: thing is like well, like parents are stressed. Like the
Speaker 1: effect on kids like they just have more anxiety and
Speaker 1: depression and like they just don't get to do all
Speaker 1: these things like fucking run a ound with other kids,
Speaker 1: like you know, and that's so vital. And I look
Speaker 1: back and I'm like, oh, ship like that when I
Speaker 1: was just throwing tennis balls that you know, Corey's head,
Speaker 1: That's how I was, you know, standing a happy kid.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, they did you have the trees that yielded
Speaker 1: the little spike balls that were just made for a year.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah yeah, we collect those in my household.
Speaker 1: What do you call doesn't have what's called spiky We
Speaker 1: just called it spike balls. Ye. And my five year
Speaker 1: old pointed out that the exactly like the depiction of
Speaker 1: the coronavirus. Yeah, there's like green coronavirus balls. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: even fucking call I'm like for real and no idea,
Speaker 1: like what tree is that? Yeah? Been doing this dude,
Speaker 1: you know, spiky balls, but I guess they are. They're
Speaker 1: wondering it's one of likely the buckeye, oh, horse chestnut,
Speaker 1: are sweet gum tree? Okay, whatever, they're sticky balls. I like,
Speaker 1: I like, yeah, forget it. I mean, I'm gonna call
Speaker 1: them covids now. But it does just highlight like you're saying, jack, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the stakes are just higher with something like COVID, which
Speaker 1: he then brings up, Well, we really need to be
Speaker 1: doing on top of all this stuff. Is the infrastructure
Speaker 1: required to not have another pandemic five years from now?
Speaker 1: You know, there were definitely upstream like things that happened
Speaker 1: or didn't happen that allowed COVID to balloon out of control.
Speaker 1: And I question whether we're even like getting everything short
Speaker 1: up so that that doesn't happen again because we're so
Speaker 1: busy worrying about are we ever going to reach herd immunity?
Speaker 1: Are we ever going to reach her immunity? Man? I
Speaker 1: just knock on wood that there's not like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: like Flovid or provid coming in the next summer. Flovid
Speaker 1: actually sounds funny. Flovid sounds very mucasy. Yeah, yeah, back revenge.
Speaker 1: That sounds like a like pastry concoction of some sort,
Speaker 1: Like yeah, I mean, it would be great if we
Speaker 1: learned our lesson from like experiences and news stories, but
Speaker 1: like we didn't even learn to get more hospital beds,
Speaker 1: Like we're still dealing with a hospital bed shortage since
Speaker 1: the first like handful of waves of the of the
Speaker 1: vaccine of the because why spend preemptively because I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's going to happen, then I just waste
Speaker 1: a bunch of money on all this stuff. No, no,
Speaker 1: and even if we're just two years time, that's a
Speaker 1: bunk investment. It's like we're so grafted onto just like
Speaker 1: whatever is profitable that we first of all won't shut
Speaker 1: things down because we need to keep the stores and
Speaker 1: the businesses open. And then we just never spend money preemptively.
Speaker 1: So that's cool. Socialism flow overhead, so the wheels fall off.
Speaker 1: Let's talk the FASER vaccine, which got the FDA approval
Speaker 1: yesterday or two days ago. Joseph Biden came out and
Speaker 1: was like, all right, so you guys who said you
Speaker 1: weren't doing the thing, now you now you gotta do
Speaker 1: it because FDA boom, what's your excuse now? And shockingly,
Speaker 1: the people who were you know, cycling between, you know,
Speaker 1: juggling twelve different excuses once this one was taken away,
Speaker 1: they just went with the eleven others that they've come
Speaker 1: up with. Yeah, you just look a quick survey of
Speaker 1: the loud people who are against vaccines, like little RFK
Speaker 1: Robert F. Kennedy, He little baby RFK is out here
Speaker 1: saying quote, they know they can't win this argument on
Speaker 1: the science. Huh, and that's why they had to abolish
Speaker 1: the public process in independent oversight. Okay, let's check in
Speaker 1: with dumb Ron Johnson from Wisconsin, the Senator. He said, quote,
Speaker 1: I see no need to rush the FDA approval process
Speaker 1: for any of the three COVID nineteen vaccines. Expediting the
Speaker 1: process appears to only serve the political purpose of imposing
Speaker 1: and enforcing vaccine mandates. And finally, majorly tainted Queen or
Speaker 1: I'm Marjorie Taylor Green said quote the FDA sped it up.
Speaker 1: And I wonder was it Joe Biden himself making that
Speaker 1: called a brute the fier vaccine that now in studies
Speaker 1: is showing only effectiveness. So yeah, there's no, that it
Speaker 1: was never. For for many of these people, it was
Speaker 1: never about the f d A. It was just about
Speaker 1: being able to say something that everyone could agree that
Speaker 1: wasn't true and using that to bolster their larger argument,
Speaker 1: which is like against all kinds of science f d
Speaker 1: A approval because along with it, right, is that that's
Speaker 1: what a lot of people pushing back because now it
Speaker 1: gives employers and schools and federal agencies the power to
Speaker 1: green light vaccine requirements. And now like it's like, well,
Speaker 1: see you just did. That's what you can You can
Speaker 1: make people do it to keep the everyone safer. Right.
Speaker 1: Do you have an impression of whether it seems to
Speaker 1: me like the anti COVID vaccine people are a larger
Speaker 1: group than just anti vactors generally. Remember back in the day,
Speaker 1: anti vaxxer didn't refer to one particular vaccine. It was
Speaker 1: just people who, like believe Jenna McCarthy, I I think
Speaker 1: a lot of those people very easy. Yeah. I know
Speaker 1: people who started off as like purely like you know
Speaker 1: those MERSA or whatever, the mm what what what are
Speaker 1: all the what's that schedule? Those first panel of vaccines
Speaker 1: you get hit with. I don't know mmr measles moms
Speaker 1: through Bella that when they're like, no, I'm never doing that,
Speaker 1: they do the second this COVID just or no, they
Speaker 1: they were like, yeah, throw that one in there too. Yeah, alright.
Speaker 1: It's just this is a conspiracy that's hard for me
Speaker 1: to break down because I don't even understand what they think.
Speaker 1: Is it like some big mask benefiting off masks sales?
Speaker 1: Like how in what universe is it beneficial to the
Speaker 1: cabal or like the illuminati to tank the entire global
Speaker 1: economy and send everyone inside and shut every anything down
Speaker 1: to sell some sweet vaccines. And it's hard because you
Speaker 1: can you can corner somebody with that and be like,
Speaker 1: this would be the least elegant version of like global
Speaker 1: control if you're doing when you're that cynical, like this
Speaker 1: isn't even moving at the speed you would need to
Speaker 1: for like massive the kinds of wealth distribution that you
Speaker 1: get from like a war or something. There's so many
Speaker 1: easier ways. Check check that out on you at the
Speaker 1: military industrial complex and get back to me. But let's
Speaker 1: talk vaccines real quick, because then it'll be something like
Speaker 1: because you'll be with someone who's savvy and they go, no, no,
Speaker 1: I don't think that's what it is. But it's just that,
Speaker 1: like you know, these drug companies man, like they put
Speaker 1: stuff out there and it hurts people. It's not just vaccines,
Speaker 1: it's like other stuff. Look at Johnson and Johnson with
Speaker 1: like the baby powder and stuff and what happened there
Speaker 1: like these so they use so on some level. That's
Speaker 1: why I try and figure out, how are you're just
Speaker 1: using a lot of true things because you're scared or
Speaker 1: but then when you start being like check out, you
Speaker 1: know the whole thing about the great cling of the
Speaker 1: herd that the illuminating, like well this is that. I
Speaker 1: do think the mainstream thing is like, well this this
Speaker 1: was a big pandemic, and therefore they made like rash decisions.
Speaker 1: They're like doing things in a two rushed way, and
Speaker 1: doctors are just telling us to get a something that
Speaker 1: could be dangerous to us before they recognize it because
Speaker 1: they just want to like cover their ass from the
Speaker 1: from the COVID thing or whatever that seems to be
Speaker 1: the one that has bled over to like people who
Speaker 1: probably weren't anti bactors in the first place. Right, And yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean with all this, right, we had Dr Fauci
Speaker 1: also on Tuesday, saying, hey, you know, if we get
Speaker 1: a significant amount of people vaccinated, we might have this
Speaker 1: thing under control in the spring. And like, I'm like, oh, fuck, Tony,
Speaker 1: you are in a fucking fantasy world. And I love
Speaker 1: you to death, man, I love you to death because
Speaker 1: you're trying to incentivize it, like the people like, hey,
Speaker 1: if you take your medicine, we can go to Disneyland
Speaker 1: in the spring. If that doesn't and that's just not working.
Speaker 1: People don't aren't. That's not their calculus anymore, and you're
Speaker 1: just like, it's that idea completely ignores people like Ron Johnson,
Speaker 1: who are like, you know, I'm willing to die to
Speaker 1: make a fuck to own the lips, and I might
Speaker 1: regret it at the very last minute, but I will
Speaker 1: bluster her my way to near Like a bunch of
Speaker 1: these people have been taken out. Dr Peter Hotez. He said, quote,
Speaker 1: I do I do think there will be a modest
Speaker 1: increase because of the authorization from the FDA, but look,
Speaker 1: we have a long way to go to fill this gap.
Speaker 1: I think having the full approval will certainly convince some,
Speaker 1: but it's just one of a dozen fake talking points
Speaker 1: put out there by the disinformation campaign, and I think
Speaker 1: a number of people are just going to revert to
Speaker 1: one of those other ones. Yeah, it's pretty frustrating. And
Speaker 1: I do think like, even though the Faucci thing is
Speaker 1: seems very like pie in the sky and unrealistic, I'm
Speaker 1: coming around to being like a little bit more sympathetic
Speaker 1: with just like recognizing that nobody knows what the fun
Speaker 1: to do here, Like this is, this is a massive problem.
Speaker 1: It's gonna go down hard no matter which way. Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're just trying a bunch of ship. I'm like more
Speaker 1: just like I feel bad for Fauci because like he
Speaker 1: keeps trying this version of it and every time and
Speaker 1: then it was like and then people are gonna be
Speaker 1: like you said it was going to be gone by
Speaker 1: the spring, and you're like, yeah, motherfucker. If if it's
Speaker 1: like the in the sixties, the hippies used to say,
Speaker 1: what if they threw a war and no one came, Well,
Speaker 1: guess what people always show up to horse Like that
Speaker 1: is a nice thought. It theoretically makes sense. It just
Speaker 1: doesn't ever happen that way. Like I always said that
Speaker 1: they should pitch flu shots as being the like ethical
Speaker 1: thing to do because people don't realize that even if
Speaker 1: you don't get the flu very often, by getting the
Speaker 1: flu shot, you make it less likely that you're gonna
Speaker 1: like kill a elderly person or like a baby that
Speaker 1: you come into contact with. And that's that seems to
Speaker 1: be kind of what they did with the messaging around
Speaker 1: this vaccine, and it was a complete failing. Like people
Speaker 1: are like, I don't give a shit about that. I
Speaker 1: don't care about you know, like that's just a yeah,
Speaker 1: that that so you know, my best guess was wrong,
Speaker 1: so I'll just own that. But it's it just seems
Speaker 1: like trying to win the argument is not the thing
Speaker 1: that is succeeding. I think having making people get the
Speaker 1: vaccine in order to continue to live comfortable lives, that's
Speaker 1: probably the only way around this. But let's be real,
Speaker 1: they can't live. They can do that. They can They're
Speaker 1: not going to be arrested or have their kids taken
Speaker 1: away because they're not going to take the vaccine, although
Speaker 1: like that's what they're trying to make it seem like,
Speaker 1: and like the whole thing is this is what the
Speaker 1: rest of the society is saying and based on the
Speaker 1: medical research like this is what has to be done
Speaker 1: to help the community, this world that we live in,
Speaker 1: because it's not just the US, it's everywhere. And on
Speaker 1: top of it, even when we're talking about well, you're
Speaker 1: gonna say boosters and ship, well, the world health organizations
Speaker 1: like YO do not do anything until at least September
Speaker 1: if you can, because you know, when you look at
Speaker 1: sort of the rest of the planet, especially in places
Speaker 1: where the incomes are not high, we're talking under two
Speaker 1: percent of that of that global population is vaccinated, and
Speaker 1: we're like, YO, get someone a third one. And then
Speaker 1: on top of we have people who are laughing off
Speaker 1: the first first dose. So it's just a very fucked
Speaker 1: up situation and we'll, I mean, we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: I mean, Luckily, the vaccine numbers have slowly been going
Speaker 1: up because I think on some level people realize other
Speaker 1: people are getting hurt. But we'll get to that number.
Speaker 1: As sad as it is, I think the thing that
Speaker 1: might convince people around the edges is like being a
Speaker 1: devout follower of some like right wing pundit who then
Speaker 1: gets COVID and dies. That would be one of the
Speaker 1: few things if I of my mind and they're like
Speaker 1: space that I'd be like, oh, okay, maybe maybe even
Speaker 1: if I still think the vaccine is risky, maybe the
Speaker 1: risk out way, you know, maybe talking and it's not
Speaker 1: working out. Yeah. There's this guy, Phil Valentine, a conservative
Speaker 1: talk radio host in Tennessee who's probably as an audience
Speaker 1: ten times the size of this show, who was openly
Speaker 1: vaccines getting no but like just massive, like probably very popular,
Speaker 1: very influential. Was vaccine vaccine skeptical, you know, thrown out
Speaker 1: all the all the common talking points, and then caught
Speaker 1: COVID in early July, changed his tune through public statements
Speaker 1: made by his family, but I don't think those were
Speaker 1: aired on his radio show. And then he died a
Speaker 1: couple of days ago, and according to his brother, his
Speaker 1: like number one concern as he was dying was that
Speaker 1: he had caused anyone to not get the vaccine. So
Speaker 1: you know, that's not just evidence the vaccine works. That's
Speaker 1: a horrible way to die. Real, I think you've like
Speaker 1: really harmed a bunch of people who trusted you. But
Speaker 1: like when you go to his website doesn't contain any
Speaker 1: of this information or change of place. His last blog
Speaker 1: post was a screed against global warming that claims that
Speaker 1: climate change said we'd never see snow again. So it's
Speaker 1: from back when it was and there. That's that's been
Speaker 1: a thing with people who are conservatives who have passed away,
Speaker 1: who are like raw ra on anti vax stuff. Is
Speaker 1: like on their O bits, they don't say the cause
Speaker 1: of death or in the end like saying if they're
Speaker 1: announcing that someone has passed away, they don't they won't
Speaker 1: talk about the cause of death, or sometimes trying to
Speaker 1: make sure that the death certificate doesn't say COVID. So
Speaker 1: that's that feels like in cases like this where somebody
Speaker 1: who has you know, used the all the things that
Speaker 1: are evil that social media to get their like harmful
Speaker 1: message in front of people, and then you know, changes
Speaker 1: their mind, changes the message they want to get out,
Speaker 1: and dies as a result of the previous message. That
Speaker 1: seems like one of those things that like Facebook and
Speaker 1: like all the social networks should be making sure everyone
Speaker 1: who ever shared a post like by this guy like
Speaker 1: seats like that, Like I don't understand why we're not
Speaker 1: holding them to a higher standard of just like yeah,
Speaker 1: do use like the immense power I'm sure, it's because
Speaker 1: they're trying to claim they don't have this immense power,
Speaker 1: but have the immense power to like brainwash you end
Speaker 1: up buying a fucking one wheel skateboard, right, I mean
Speaker 1: those are pretty cool. I mean, yeah, they're pretty sick. Dude,
Speaker 1: I've seen the one that goes off road. No, dude,
Speaker 1: I don't even skate, dude, I don't even skate. Actually,
Speaker 1: justin cut the previous section. Let's just talk about the skateboard. Um,
Speaker 1: what do so? What? Wait? What's what's the Instagram account?
Speaker 1: That is a hold on? All right, let's take a
Speaker 1: quick break and we'll be right back. And we're back.
Speaker 1: And you know, last November we covered a prop twenty two,
Speaker 1: which was where gag economy driven companies Uber lift or
Speaker 1: Dash Instacart invested two hundred million dollars into propaganda that
Speaker 1: basically made it seem as though this proposition was going
Speaker 1: to harm employees. Not employees, by the way, contractors who
Speaker 1: worked for them. No, No, it was going to benefit them.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I don't know which, whether it was yes
Speaker 1: or no, but yeah, that it was going to made
Speaker 1: it seem as though it was going to benefit them,
Speaker 1: and it succeeded because the employee, the labor forces and
Speaker 1: like organizations, organizational forces did not have two hundred million
Speaker 1: dollars to spend on this. And it's one of those
Speaker 1: things that that's complicated. I didn't even which one was
Speaker 1: the bad one. Yeah, it initiatives, man, the bread and
Speaker 1: butter of California. Rich people are going to be like, yo, dude,
Speaker 1: we'll get these signatures and we'll fucking make this a
Speaker 1: lot of watch this ship. They want to fucking find us.
Speaker 1: We'll trick voters into fucking owning the drivers. And that's
Speaker 1: what it was. They the whole tone of it was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, if you ask anyone who drives Uber Lift,
Speaker 1: they're dying to be independent contractors. I mean they're dying
Speaker 1: from being independent contractors because we won't know. I mean
Speaker 1: they are. They love props and like they would do
Speaker 1: ship like do these like you know, paid sort of
Speaker 1: spokespeople who are like have worked Uber or whatever to
Speaker 1: give a quote and they show this mother, Ray Kisha
Speaker 1: from Pasadenas is it allows me to take care of
Speaker 1: my daughter and her special needs while making extra money
Speaker 1: that's needed and already trying to sort of you know,
Speaker 1: frame it of like, oh, look look at who you're helping,
Speaker 1: you know, like this is what it is, and this
Speaker 1: is the tremendous benefit that will that will be afforded
Speaker 1: to these drivers when they are miss class of EID
Speaker 1: as independent contractors and not employees of fucking Uber or
Speaker 1: Lift or instat Carter Postmates. And because of it, the
Speaker 1: all the deceptive marketing fucking worked and people are like,
Speaker 1: oh great, And what it did was just completely offer
Speaker 1: drivers funk all in the way of any kind of
Speaker 1: collective bargaining power, benefits and things like that. But luckily
Speaker 1: a lawsuit was filed by the SEIU Service Employees, International
Speaker 1: unions and three drivers and it's gained traction in a
Speaker 1: California Superior court where a judge he just said, did
Speaker 1: you guys read this ship? This is unenforceable, This is unconstitutional.
Speaker 1: What the funk? How what is this? So the judge
Speaker 1: said that Props two appears to quote only protect economic
Speaker 1: interests of gig companies. What he says is he points
Speaker 1: to a part of Prop. Twenty two that quote required
Speaker 1: a seven eighth legislative majority to alter the proposition, but
Speaker 1: even then only with the approval of the gig company drafters,
Speaker 1: so there was no way to alter this. It's like, okay,
Speaker 1: first get to an impossible majority, and then from there
Speaker 1: then you got to get them to agree to it,
Speaker 1: and then you can change it. And so he goes
Speaker 1: on to say, a prohibition on legislation authorizing collective bargaining
Speaker 1: by appas drivers does not promote the right to work
Speaker 1: as an independent contractor, or does it protect work flexibility
Speaker 1: or does it provide minimum workplace safety and pay standards
Speaker 1: for those workers? And if those are the like, all
Speaker 1: of those are the points that they used to sell
Speaker 1: the better safety, better standards, he says, and then he
Speaker 1: goes on to say, quote, it appears only to protect
Speaker 1: the economic interests of the network companies and having a divided,
Speaker 1: ununionized workforce, which is not a stated legal goal of
Speaker 1: this legislation. I love them, Miles as Red is giving
Speaker 1: the judge like a confused slightly wait a minute, exploited them.
Speaker 1: But you said you aren't going to God, this ain't it.
Speaker 1: But that's this feels like so revolutionary and like unpressed
Speaker 1: to meet for a judge to be like, no, this
Speaker 1: is clearly what you're doing, Like we see what you're doing.
Speaker 1: We know what you're doing, and like we can look
Speaker 1: at how the law has in effect worked once it
Speaker 1: was passed, like so fuck you, Like no, no way.
Speaker 1: The point where that becomes like union busting, right, like
Speaker 1: it's not legal to keep people from unionizing, I don't
Speaker 1: think yeah yeah then that The last thing they want
Speaker 1: is to again have workers be able to you know,
Speaker 1: collectively figure out what's best for themselves or have any
Speaker 1: negotiating power, or you know, be able to have sick
Speaker 1: days and things like that so you're not driving when
Speaker 1: you're sick and possibly making other people ill or whatever.
Speaker 1: Like just it's it's it's inhumane, like it's it. There's
Speaker 1: no and most people who really get caught up in
Speaker 1: it too, depending on where you drive. It's sometimes it's
Speaker 1: just barely enough to break even or just make a
Speaker 1: little bit more money, and it's like what is this
Speaker 1: all for? And again that's but that's been the whole
Speaker 1: business model of Uber. They've been just deficit spending and
Speaker 1: promising investors like no, dude, we're gonna do just which
Speaker 1: these fucking profits come through, Doggie, it's gonna be fucking sick.
Speaker 1: And apparently part of their whole strategy was, you know,
Speaker 1: under paying drivers and having these like artificially low prices
Speaker 1: to lure riders in. And they've sunk thirty billion dollars
Speaker 1: in the last six years and pursued all this ship
Speaker 1: the uber specifically, and you look at the state of
Speaker 1: like similar bills in other states, they're like, that's coming
Speaker 1: up with much heavier opposition than Prop twenty two did.
Speaker 1: So in a way like it's kind of like a
Speaker 1: TikTok on, like what was going to happen here with
Speaker 1: these companies? Are they going to implode? Are they going
Speaker 1: to figure it out? Because even offering two fifty million
Speaker 1: dollar bonuses hasn't been like really enough to move the
Speaker 1: needle to get drivers to come back. Wow, And they
Speaker 1: the whole like, uh, the whole ploy seems to be
Speaker 1: we passed the savings onto you. But I don't know
Speaker 1: if you've used door dash lately, but you can order
Speaker 1: like a six dollar hot dog. It's costs to get delivered,
Speaker 1: so and then you guarantee that's not going to the
Speaker 1: driver unless you I love that you'll hit in the
Speaker 1: tip section. Other if you put too much in there,
Speaker 1: it won't let you Like there's an arbitrary cap on
Speaker 1: how much you can tip a hold on here, like, well,
Speaker 1: if you have that much money, we'll raise the fees.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, Oh you got it like that Swain Okay,
Speaker 1: I mean there was a value the capitalists from the start.
Speaker 1: I've been saying this is like unsustainable, that they were
Speaker 1: basically operating at such an incredible loss, like from the start,
Speaker 1: and that they were eventually going to do like a
Speaker 1: bait and switch. And the question would be like whether
Speaker 1: people would still pay these incredibly high prices. And I
Speaker 1: think we're in that phase and a lot of places,
Speaker 1: in a lot of cases and now or my question
Speaker 1: is like we've also become dependent on that infrastructurally. I
Speaker 1: do like the idea of an uberlift being available is
Speaker 1: a product category that people want now in their mind.
Speaker 1: And uh So my question is like, when this cycle
Speaker 1: fulfills itself in these companies, let's say crash and burn,
Speaker 1: does the next company to fill that gap do anything different?
Speaker 1: Or do they run the same game plan and they
Speaker 1: last twelve years and then they crash and burn? Because
Speaker 1: I could see it going either way. I mean, I
Speaker 1: feel like you have to at least you have to
Speaker 1: pivot to the idea of like we pay people, we
Speaker 1: pay people fairly. Like that, I feel like the only
Speaker 1: shot that you have to at least arrive at a
Speaker 1: place you can be upfront with people like, look, it's
Speaker 1: not as cheap. Well, here's the deal, Like, this is
Speaker 1: the only way we can pay people to to like,
Speaker 1: have of good life and have some kind of service.
Speaker 1: It may cost a little bit more. It smells less
Speaker 1: like cigarettes than a normal cab. I don't know, is
Speaker 1: that still cool? Like, you know, that's kind of where
Speaker 1: we're at. Yeah. Yeah, And if you're worry about paying
Speaker 1: more to secure the future the globe, I got bad
Speaker 1: news about like coffee and meat and eventually water. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh my god, nobody was killed procuring this bottle of
Speaker 1: water will eventually be a that's the name of the
Speaker 1: water brand. Yeah no, no, no kill water. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk video games to correct a story
Speaker 1: that we got wrong. I think a lot of people
Speaker 1: got wrong, that we got it wrong, that there's there's
Speaker 1: going on. Hey, as an ign representative, I can say
Speaker 1: we covered it loud and proud. It turned out to
Speaker 1: be bullshit, So we're right there. Well, what do you
Speaker 1: mean by that? Like more than a deception, more than
Speaker 1: like something that didn't happen, right, Yeah, because a mythical
Speaker 1: that was perpetuated by Yeah, we we didn't get it
Speaker 1: wrong given the information we had at the time. Were
Speaker 1: famously we've never never, we've been a hunt one comes
Speaker 1: to accuracy. We've been asking people. We we put it
Speaker 1: out there and but come debate me. Okay, bait me
Speaker 1: on it. You think I've said on this show. Uh So,
Speaker 1: there's been like a month or two ago we discussed
Speaker 1: the auctioning of a like two different video game cartridges
Speaker 1: that fetched what seemed like too much money for a
Speaker 1: video game cartridge and made us all feel like ship
Speaker 1: for having thrown away. This is something that almost everybody
Speaker 1: in America owned at one point or another. We should
Speaker 1: have kept the rapping on worth one point five six
Speaker 1: million for that Super Mario sixty four unboxed two million
Speaker 1: for an unopened Super Mario and any is. But as
Speaker 1: you point out, like in the grand scheme of the
Speaker 1: history of gaming, Mario's sixty four is not even that old,
Speaker 1: and we all owned that game, so it is weird.
Speaker 1: We should have known, like why would it go for that? Right?
Speaker 1: Because it was like it's not even like the first
Speaker 1: appearance of a character, like you know, like a Donkey
Speaker 1: Kong if you're really in a Mario like you could
Speaker 1: have you could have peeped them over there, like is
Speaker 1: it or like a Zelda game you think would be
Speaker 1: more in demand and things like that. But no, this
Speaker 1: sixty four cartri is sold for one point five six million,
Speaker 1: and a lot of investors were like, go buckle up,
Speaker 1: we got hold on for dear life because these video
Speaker 1: games are the new anti va or come uh, you're
Speaker 1: gonna get rich off of it. And this journalist named
Speaker 1: Carl Jobs didn't. Investigation essentially found that these prices seemed
Speaker 1: like they were manipulated, and it turns out it was
Speaker 1: a scheme that involved the company that grades the games,
Speaker 1: like when they bring in they they're like, okay, this
Speaker 1: is about a hundred K game or whatever they're called, WATTA,
Speaker 1: and the auction house, Heritage Auctions, And he said that
Speaker 1: what happened was the previous record holder in video in
Speaker 1: the video game world with Super Mario Brothers, that was
Speaker 1: graded by this company WATA, for a hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: And then he notes that this copy was allegedly bought
Speaker 1: by the guy who started the auction house and like
Speaker 1: two other people who were collectors and essentially published. Then
Speaker 1: this Heritage auction House is like, hey man, I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna let you know we've got this record smashing sale
Speaker 1: of a Super Mario game. And also, you know, come
Speaker 1: check out look at all the look at the upper
Speaker 1: trajectory of all these games, Like this ship ain't slowing
Speaker 1: down anyway to come through. We might have this up
Speaker 1: for auction and maybe it'll be worth more since like
Speaker 1: you know now it's at the bottom is a d
Speaker 1: K and go right right, yeah, just controlling things from
Speaker 1: bumping the scenes. Yeah, I mean one of the guys
Speaker 1: from the Great the Grading House was going on like
Speaker 1: pond Stars and like news shows to fucking tout like
Speaker 1: the rising value of these retro cartridges and just to
Speaker 1: keep the fucking energy up to have more news stories.
Speaker 1: You're like, oh my god, this is the new thing fascinating,
Speaker 1: Like the product is the market itself, like trying to
Speaker 1: convince rich people this is the thing rich people do
Speaker 1: and buy. You should do and buy this. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: we hey, sell your grandma's house and go in on
Speaker 1: a third of a video game with someone, So did
Speaker 1: did they do the same thing with the one point
Speaker 1: five six million or were the people who spent the
Speaker 1: one point five six million just like fooled by these stories?
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know specific about those ones, but
Speaker 1: essentially what they're saying is like this is a pattern
Speaker 1: that the grading house and the auction house we're using
Speaker 1: to be like like it's a runaway train. And that
Speaker 1: could be, but it seems like that would maybe be
Speaker 1: a little to agree just at this point when all
Speaker 1: they might need is like that origin sale to like
Speaker 1: set this whole thing up. Yeah, but it sounds an
Speaker 1: awful like awful lot like the art world, you know,
Speaker 1: goes seeing crypto, by which I always assume is money laundering,
Speaker 1: like rich criminals doing stuff that's none of my business
Speaker 1: making their money clean because like you know, like a scheme.
Speaker 1: What will happen with fine art, right is an artist
Speaker 1: and like our gallery and a collector will collaborate and
Speaker 1: say let's tell people like let's straight up lie and
Speaker 1: say you bought this piece for three thousand dollars, will
Speaker 1: sell to you for but then you can now say
Speaker 1: that we're going to now say that this artist's work
Speaker 1: is around that level, and that will make the other
Speaker 1: pieces go up to and that will only make your
Speaker 1: piece right and value to. It's like a very similar,
Speaker 1: fucking cynical way of you know, just artificially pulling, you know,
Speaker 1: just put bringing people into a fake world of infinite value. Wow.
Speaker 1: That's ah. I'm assuming that's illegal, but maybe not if
Speaker 1: it's butter practice. It's like art world, how much is
Speaker 1: this painting worth? It's worth however much it makes you feel,
Speaker 1: man like, you know what I mean? How can you that? Right? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it seems like if you were gonna do a like
Speaker 1: create a fake sale, going for Super Mario sixty four
Speaker 1: and Super Mario Brothers would make the most sense because
Speaker 1: they are the ones that most people have owned, and
Speaker 1: so if you want the story to like spread as
Speaker 1: fast as possible and as wide as possible, like that
Speaker 1: is the smart thing to do. I I wonder how
Speaker 1: they got it up to two million or one point
Speaker 1: five six million. I I don't think it's to agree,
Speaker 1: just to assume that those numbers were a complete ship,
Speaker 1: but or wonder if like a check for that amount
Speaker 1: ever actually changed hands or yeah, yeah, all right, And
Speaker 1: finally we have some chicken sandwich ranking to report. We've
Speaker 1: been just waiting by the newsdesk for this information to
Speaker 1: come through. Who one, I can smell it? Yeah I
Speaker 1: don't so not not a surprise. At number one, we
Speaker 1: got Popeyes. Wait, who is this from? This is from
Speaker 1: the takeout, which I usually trust there. I like that
Speaker 1: they seem to really like food, Like almost all of
Speaker 1: their reviews are like an A or a B, and
Speaker 1: they're like, this is fucking awesome. Oh man, like Turtle
Speaker 1: Van so good, just home or the food critic everything
Speaker 1: number one, right, But so you know this is fun
Speaker 1: because they're setting all the you know, chicken fried chickens
Speaker 1: and which offerings against one another. You know, there was
Speaker 1: a big rush. And what about chick fil A's that
Speaker 1: on this list? Not that I'm like on this list
Speaker 1: because I think it predated. I think they're saying, like
Speaker 1: people started chasing dragon, Okay, I got it. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: Popaye's number one with a bullet. They're like, sorry, we
Speaker 1: tried to like come up with a different one that
Speaker 1: would be more surprising, but it's just really good. We
Speaker 1: were there, we were there for that. We know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we've seen we've heard, but two is shocking to me.
Speaker 1: Hardy's Carl's Jr. What did not see that coming? They're
Speaker 1: sandwiches like always look too like the meat always looks
Speaker 1: too thick, Like the burger just looks like it's fucking
Speaker 1: like a giant linebacker's forearm. Like, Yeah, I love my
Speaker 1: curvy chicken sandwich. I I almost I love, I honestly
Speaker 1: almost put Carl's Jr. Has my underrated. I think Carl's
Speaker 1: Junior slash parties. I think I need to get up
Speaker 1: on this. Yeah, a lot of people sleep on Carl's Jr.
Speaker 1: I definitely I used to get it. What's funny even
Speaker 1: though I'm like, oh no, I never got their fried
Speaker 1: chicken sandwiches. Ice eat the Santa Fe chicken sandwich a
Speaker 1: lot at Carls June. And that's like a wheat bun
Speaker 1: that's fucking unheard of for like a sloppy teenager who
Speaker 1: like wants maximum junk and like, fucking man, it even hits.
Speaker 1: It knocks with the wheat bun too. But I guess
Speaker 1: they're so what. They got the good crunch, they got
Speaker 1: the good flavors, juicy on the inside, manages, it manages
Speaker 1: to keep every last bit of its crispy crunch. Well
Speaker 1: in transit, the potato bun did exactly what it was
Speaker 1: supposed to do, help things together, tasted great without being
Speaker 1: distracting that I will I will say they really love pickles.
Speaker 1: Like there are multiple of these reviews where they're like,
Speaker 1: I could use more pickles. The pickles saved this one.
Speaker 1: They're like, but the pickles saved the day. In the end,
Speaker 1: the sandwich really only loses marks because not enough pickles
Speaker 1: are involved, and that's kind of their consents on other ones. Also,
Speaker 1: I just love that they refer to it as the
Speaker 1: chickens deafening crunch. That really makes me want Popeyes right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: your gums won't be able to handle that. Shread my gums?
Speaker 1: Ye do? Wait so they got Oh, the KFC really
Speaker 1: took a fucking kick in the I mean, y'all had
Speaker 1: one job and how the the they said, And this
Speaker 1: is not hard for me or anyone who's at KFC
Speaker 1: to imagine. The skin separates from the chicken a little
Speaker 1: too easily, taking it as their social distancing their skin
Speaker 1: from their chicken. They always have. The chilies even entered
Speaker 1: the game and came in and eight, which you would
Speaker 1: expect chilies to be able to put something together at
Speaker 1: a higher price point, but you do not, so you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like you can only class up a fried
Speaker 1: chicken sandwich so much like until you're going into like
Speaker 1: ridiculess luxury foods territory, like if it's really about the
Speaker 1: fry on it, the battery, using the pickles and the
Speaker 1: little sauce. I also think of Chilis in a different
Speaker 1: category than Popeye's, Hardy's b K. Yeah, it's almost embarrassing
Speaker 1: that they're even be like and Chili's, I guess, like
Speaker 1: they shouldn't even be here, but they tried and it's
Speaker 1: really sad and we sup talk about it. And then
Speaker 1: Boston Market. Boston Market is the last place flavorful pickles though, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they give them credit for flavorful pickles and the sandwich
Speaker 1: staying together, which is a very low bar. Yeah, that's like,
Speaker 1: that's like some funk. That's like sucking Spielberg, like watching
Speaker 1: like a kindergartener's film and just doing like there was like,
Speaker 1: well there was a camera that was recording, so that
Speaker 1: was good for this and we'll leave it there. Otherwise,
Speaker 1: it to Burger King was the other big surprise for me,
Speaker 1: and that it was so I don't know if you've
Speaker 1: seen the Burger King chicken sandwich, but it looks like
Speaker 1: a big piece of like General Sows chicken. Like it
Speaker 1: looks like it's just like dipped in it's glazed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a glazed chunk of chicken. But they say it's good.
Speaker 1: The sauce is apparently more hot than sweet. All right, well,
Speaker 1: bet k, I guess we'll have it their way. It's
Speaker 1: just so funny how quickly like the sandwich, the chicken
Speaker 1: sandwich wars that came and went like because like life
Speaker 1: just became more complicated and you're like, oh, yeah, I
Speaker 1: do you remember when we were like, oh, look at
Speaker 1: people learning up for Papa's And now like I feel
Speaker 1: like I've just friendly landed on. That's the best one
Speaker 1: I've had, the McDonald's one. That one's all right, but
Speaker 1: it's still not there's not There's just something about that Poppye.
Speaker 1: I think the only one I've ever had his number
Speaker 1: six Zack Spies, which I've honestly never heard of. That
Speaker 1: now I'm gonna seek out Zack Space. It's a Southern
Speaker 1: delicacy in the KFC in Paris, France, when I was visiting,
Speaker 1: they have a chicken sandwich with hash browns as the
Speaker 1: buns called the stacker so good I've never seen as
Speaker 1: the bun I've never seen in the States chicken sandwich
Speaker 1: hash brown buns. Yeah, what the fuck? That sounds like
Speaker 1: some Americans KFC Paris, I know, and I fully expected.
Speaker 1: I was like, this is so American. Clearly I just
Speaker 1: missed the switchover and when I head back to the States,
Speaker 1: this will be at KFC. But no, it was unique
Speaker 1: to the French KFC s. Yeah, is there any chance
Speaker 1: that they're doing it out of a sense of like
Speaker 1: responsibility socially, like not to like kill Americans with the sandwich?
Speaker 1: It's so good that they're just like can handle it.
Speaker 1: But I always imagine with decisions the chain restaurants make
Speaker 1: like that. I'm like, potatoes must be cheap this year
Speaker 1: in France or whatever. It's always that. Yeah, yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: because I guess what the double down was just they
Speaker 1: probably like, look, we sucked around at the double Down
Speaker 1: and that just grossed people out when we replaced bread
Speaker 1: with chicken and then just put cheese. But we're still
Speaker 1: we're still not over replacing stuff with other stuff. KFC
Speaker 1: fun bread. That's there. Uh, that's their motto, just one
Speaker 1: way or another. What if the bread was cheese and
Speaker 1: the chicken was a potato and the potato just twitching
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Speaker 1: I was prepped for this, so with complete wherewithal, I
Speaker 1: chose one of my own tweets, Jack And I know
Speaker 1: that's bad form, but I think it makes sense when
Speaker 1: you consider the content, which is sometimes I think my
Speaker 1: tweets deserve more likes, but then I remember that no
Speaker 1: tweets deserve any likes, and I stand by that Okay,
Speaker 1: I think paradoxically, only that tweet needs to be retweeted
Speaker 1: to add infinitum. That's just until no other tweets are liked. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the plan. Miles. Where can people find you? What's
Speaker 1: a tweet you've been enjoying? You can find me on
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Speaker 1: Maybe it'll be going forever. I don't know. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but we'll see what happens. There A tweet that I
Speaker 1: like is from from Andrew T and I just kind
Speaker 1: of I don't know. I'm just indicative of where we're
Speaker 1: at right now at Andrew t t. I he said, Okay,
Speaker 1: it actually would be kind of funny if the FDA
Speaker 1: rejected the modern effects, you know, but I don't know
Speaker 1: a favorite. Yeah, we're gonna if we're just gonna laugh
Speaker 1: it all off. We're gonna just have to laugh at that.
Speaker 1: I want my booster to be Maderna. I hear, I hear.
Speaker 1: If you mix them up, if you have like a
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Speaker 1: Oh no ways, either way, eat your Popeye's chicken sandwich
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