Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season one, Episode four
Speaker 1: up Daily's Days, a production of I Heart Radio. This
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Speaker 1: joined as always by my co host, Mr Miles Gray.
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Speaker 1: somewhat eventful year. Some would say, but yeah, this is
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Speaker 1: joined in our third seat by one of the driving
Speaker 1: creative forces behind the newly allowed announced podcast network, cool
Speaker 1: Zone Media, from Robert Evans and Sophie. He is a
Speaker 1: writer and researcher on shows like Behind the Bastards, It
Speaker 1: Could Happen Here, Worst Year of Uprising, a guy from
Speaker 1: Portland's as well as for Belling Cat, and he makes
Speaker 1: everyone on this podcast feel old as fuck. Please welcome
Speaker 1: the young and talented Garrison David. I was born in
Speaker 1: two thousand two. I'd love to hear it a little.
Speaker 1: I love to hear it. I was talking with Sophie
Speaker 1: the other day. I was like, yeah, Garrison's coming on,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, but Garrison, man, he makes me
Speaker 1: feel so old in the best way though, like where
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, I'm glad these young people got their
Speaker 1: ship together. Also I'm like angry. I'm like, how does
Speaker 1: he not know this older ship from the eighties because
Speaker 1: it's twenty years before he was born and I was
Speaker 1: I was yelled at for not knowing what Wayne's world
Speaker 1: is world. It's like, how did that come up? Like
Speaker 1: because I came Someone's like yeah, right from Waynes World,
Speaker 1: and You're like yeah, it's like something. Yeah, someone just
Speaker 1: trying to do some some obscure reference to this, to
Speaker 1: this media property of Wayne's World. I don't and I
Speaker 1: have know what they're talking about. Wayne's World is super influential,
Speaker 1: to the point that like people could probably say the
Speaker 1: jokes and they would be older you even though you've
Speaker 1: never seen Wayne's World and didn't know what it was. Yeah,
Speaker 1: probably like the resurgence of Bohemian Rhapsody. Bohemian Rhapsody wasn't
Speaker 1: even really that big a hit before they did a
Speaker 1: funny headbanging scene in the car to it, and then
Speaker 1: now it's a Oscar winning film and now Jack and
Speaker 1: I can't stop saying swing either. Have you heard of that?
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've heard of swing. I want
Speaker 1: to hang out with the people you hang out with.
Speaker 1: Y'all better ship to do? Yeah, we we don't then
Speaker 1: allow us to blend our cultures. You show me that
Speaker 1: your ways, and I will show you the choogy ways.
Speaker 1: That's fine. Yeah, you guys sound fun. Not do that?
Speaker 1: Is that something that I am I am aware of
Speaker 1: not growing up in the growing up in the early
Speaker 1: two thousands, we had a lot of something not Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot was not cool. Well, uh, we are going
Speaker 1: to get to know you a little bit better in
Speaker 1: a moment. A couple of things we're gonna be talking
Speaker 1: about later on. Governor Greg Abbott currently has COVID. He's,
Speaker 1: you know, just being safe, getting the experimental treatments. We'll
Speaker 1: talk about that, the monoclonal antibodies. Yeah, yeah, but he's uh,
Speaker 1: you know, he feels fine, but just to be safe,
Speaker 1: he is getting that, even though just to be safe,
Speaker 1: he wasn't worried about people being safe within his state
Speaker 1: who aren't him. We'll talk about the Sackler's David Sackler
Speaker 1: and the people who created the opioid crisis. We'll talk
Speaker 1: about them because they're trying to hold a settlement hostage
Speaker 1: four point five bills. We'll talk about a recent study
Speaker 1: that has found the vaccine hesitancy is highest among PhD
Speaker 1: and why that shouldn't be that surprising to us, even
Speaker 1: though at first you're like, wait, what, yeah, let we'll
Speaker 1: we'll talk. We'll explain it. Garrets. So I'm gonna ask
Speaker 1: you about the Nazi appropriation of the white Boy summer
Speaker 1: meme that you and I Robert wrote about for Belling
Speaker 1: Cat and just get your thoughts on like whether Chet
Speaker 1: Hanks has gained self awareness and is now doing all
Speaker 1: of his like right wing meming on purpose just out
Speaker 1: of desperation. I just did a whole bunch of extra
Speaker 1: work on this this weekend actually, so a bunch of
Speaker 1: new new things. Talk to you about that. We will
Speaker 1: talk to you about gender reveal, Cheddar Bay Biscuits amazing, Yes,
Speaker 1: but like the inside like yeah, they're doing a little yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean we probably don't need to talk about it.
Speaker 1: I just told you everything you need to know about it.
Speaker 1: And there's a new girl Scout Cookie, and we'll announce
Speaker 1: the upcoming streaming corners, streaming corners, Aign Mints superproducer on
Speaker 1: a Hosnie is streaming corner. Little uh sound bug for
Speaker 1: that or a sound a sting to say it every time.
Speaker 1: But before we get to any of that ship Garrison,
Speaker 1: we like to ask our guest, what is something from
Speaker 1: your search history? Oh boy, um, I've been doing a
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of a lot of work for
Speaker 1: the new show. So I have a lot of stuff
Speaker 1: related to like stop line three and a particular group
Speaker 1: called the CANW Collective, which just most of my search
Speaker 1: history right now because of my writing projects. That's most
Speaker 1: of my stuff on Google is is around can new
Speaker 1: collective stop line three and uh mbridge the company building
Speaker 1: the pipeline. Yeah, can you explain a little bit about
Speaker 1: like what what the show is about in general? Yeah,
Speaker 1: so the it could happen here daily. We have five
Speaker 1: We're starting off with five scripted episodes, um, laying out
Speaker 1: kind of like the mission statement for the show and
Speaker 1: laying down like the base information, and then after that
Speaker 1: it's going to be a daily new show combined with
Speaker 1: doing like occasional like interviews, group discussions of talking to
Speaker 1: like climate scientists, activists, and then just keeping up to
Speaker 1: date on different social movements related to environmental activism and
Speaker 1: related to like how to mitigate some of the worst
Speaker 1: effects of localized climate collapses. Because the part, part of
Speaker 1: the big part of the show is talking about how
Speaker 1: I'm especially about on people my age, we're seeing a
Speaker 1: big increase in like duomer ideas, and we're all like,
Speaker 1: there's nothing we can do to save it, which is
Speaker 1: like partially true, but it's it's it's wrong in the
Speaker 1: specific way that there's not gonna be one big collapse
Speaker 1: that ends everything. It's there's gonna be small, local things
Speaker 1: that slowly crumble away our modern world, and we can
Speaker 1: do things that help the people who are going to
Speaker 1: get hurt the most by that, and we're trying to
Speaker 1: focus on the things that can that that can help.
Speaker 1: So for people who don't know what it could happen
Speaker 1: here is it was a show Season one was released
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen kind of Robert looking at you know,
Speaker 1: using his background of being in countries that had gone
Speaker 1: through civil wars and you know, the thing that he
Speaker 1: kept hearing from people as like we never thought that
Speaker 1: this could happen here, and you know, talking about like
Speaker 1: how the the right wing fascist movement in America could
Speaker 1: turn into some manner of civil war and actually ended
Speaker 1: up predicting a lot of the ship we saw in
Speaker 1: January six and just like in them in the immediate
Speaker 1: aftermath of that show. So now the focus is on
Speaker 1: climate change and how we're seeing that bring about a
Speaker 1: things people would recognize from like movie dystopias in a
Speaker 1: lot of cases. Yeah, yeah, that's wild. It's very very
Speaker 1: interesting show. What is something you think is overrated? Overrated? Okay?
Speaker 1: In this in the same so I just spent a
Speaker 1: week in the forest and overrated. I think I'm going
Speaker 1: to say shoes. I think people people should slowly try
Speaker 1: to use less shoes, because walking around barefoot in the
Speaker 1: forest is very fun. It can hurt the first day,
Speaker 1: but after a while you start to get like little
Speaker 1: calluses and you can start moving around really quickly and
Speaker 1: you feel very cool and primal. I think I think
Speaker 1: people have an over alliance in some shoes, you know,
Speaker 1: people I like going for like, wow, cats are just
Speaker 1: scratching my chalkboard and it's a horrible chamber. My cats
Speaker 1: being bad. But yeah, I used to teach park War
Speaker 1: classes and like once a week I would do barefoot
Speaker 1: Parker just so I have like a baseline, you know,
Speaker 1: just in case I ever lose my shoes. I can
Speaker 1: still do some stuff with my bare feet. I know
Speaker 1: I'm still good. I'm still good. So I think I think, uh,
Speaker 1: I think shoes. People should learn to walk without shoes.
Speaker 1: What were you doing in the forest for? How long
Speaker 1: or how long were you in the forest. I was
Speaker 1: in the forest for a week. It was supposed to
Speaker 1: be a vacation and we were gonna we were going
Speaker 1: white water rafting. But I was I was. I was
Speaker 1: on the trip with a whole bunch of terrorism researchers,
Speaker 1: so very quickly became a work trip because we able
Speaker 1: to start talking about all of our research field and
Speaker 1: so it was come on, let's leave the domestic terror stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: in the city for a moment. So we didn't We
Speaker 1: didn't really do a vacation. It was mostly a work
Speaker 1: trip because of all, because we're all talking. But it
Speaker 1: was it was very fun. Yeah. All it takes is
Speaker 1: for you to see like one sort of like far
Speaker 1: right meme sticker, like on a car, and then suddenly
Speaker 1: I was like, do you guys see that? It didn't
Speaker 1: That was like me on any trip when I'm like,
Speaker 1: how did you see that car? And they're like what,
Speaker 1: I'm like, there are three person forget it. I'm ruining
Speaker 1: this nice time. Yeah. I love no shoes. I love
Speaker 1: no shoes. I because you know, I would always run
Speaker 1: around barefoot most of the time. I think if I
Speaker 1: don't know, I'm I like that feeling more than anything,
Speaker 1: even though I love I love a shoe. I love
Speaker 1: to put a shoe on, but the feeling of just
Speaker 1: like navigating shoelace. I was like at a sense of pride.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you see some tenderfooted people. Oh goodness, I'm like,
Speaker 1: you've never stepped on concrete in the summer. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: is very fun to like run across the gravel and
Speaker 1: watch people cringe at you and you're like, no, it's fine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: You're like it's fine really, And you're like, is that
Speaker 1: something that you and Robert have talked about it all?
Speaker 1: Because I remember running into him a couple of times
Speaker 1: back in aircraft days and he was just jogging around
Speaker 1: Santa Monica without shoes on. I know he also does
Speaker 1: barefoot running, but no, this is something I've been doing
Speaker 1: for for years before I knew who Robert Evans was.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's just you know's yeah, yeah, but you
Speaker 1: guys just are both You both recognize that there's a
Speaker 1: possibility one day that you'll be without shoes like die
Speaker 1: Hard except a climate disaster. Yeah, and you don't have shoes,
Speaker 1: but you know die I know die Hard yea, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, I know a good a good amount of
Speaker 1: nineties movies. Actually, I do love to ask extremely young
Speaker 1: people what their favorite movie is of all time. Oh man,
Speaker 1: that is rough. You can come back to that if
Speaker 1: you want to Speaking speaking of nineties movies, I do
Speaker 1: love The Fugitive. I think that it's a very that's
Speaker 1: a very fun movie. And we can all appreciate movies
Speaker 1: about running away from US Marshals. We can all all
Speaker 1: appreciate that. Yeah. Absolutely, I've always thought that the sequel
Speaker 1: US Marshals US Marshals Other two of the U. S
Speaker 1: Marshals is also a very good movie because you get
Speaker 1: to see Robert Downey Jr. On so many trucks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's true. He is constantly wasted in that movie. Totally.
Speaker 1: He like went into rehab and like like right after
Speaker 1: this film, it's that he's like on so much drugs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then he came back as Iron Man. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what's what something you think is underrated? So part of
Speaker 1: my part of my trip is I was actually in
Speaker 1: South Carolina and I got to go to waffle House
Speaker 1: for the first time. And we don't have waffle houses
Speaker 1: up here, so I think people are missing out on
Speaker 1: the on the heaven like experience of waffle House. More More,
Speaker 1: I think waffle House is underrated because we should have
Speaker 1: them everywhere. Oh I got so many things I got,
Speaker 1: I got so many waffles. I got hash browns with
Speaker 1: like this the smothered and covered and all that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff. Yeah, I I did. I I did all
Speaker 1: of it, and I I got enough variations that I
Speaker 1: was able to get the full waffle house experience. I
Speaker 1: stole a waffle house mug. That was pretty fun. I first,
Speaker 1: I first asked the waitress can I buy the smug.
Speaker 1: She's like, no, but you can steal it. I was like, okay.
Speaker 1: Then I gave that. I gave her a very good time.
Speaker 1: There you go. It all comes out. It's actually something
Speaker 1: that ties into a climate change because there's the waffle
Speaker 1: house in X. Yes, right, because waffle houses just never
Speaker 1: close unless they absolutely have to. People use the number
Speaker 1: of waffle houses that are open on a given day
Speaker 1: as a representation of like how how bad things are
Speaker 1: basically from us. Yeah, they all have they all have
Speaker 1: like their backup generators. Yeah, they're very very very good
Speaker 1: way of looking at you know, disasters and localized areas.
Speaker 1: They're like sad, they were like more industries should take
Speaker 1: note of waffle house robust future forward. Uh yeah, waffle
Speaker 1: house is underrated. More more more waffle houses. We think
Speaker 1: in the future, like if it's like demolition man style dystopia,
Speaker 1: like the waffle houses like our refuge for like the
Speaker 1: basin of civilization. Yeah yeah, it's that. That's the one
Speaker 1: part of one part of a mad Max Fury re
Speaker 1: really like is when they talk about like the Golden
Speaker 1: Arches or something like we should just have that, But
Speaker 1: for waffle House, be like, that's like the one thing
Speaker 1: we all like remember is being a thing. It's like
Speaker 1: the one part of civilization still standing is somewhere there's
Speaker 1: a Waffles that's still open. We have to find it
Speaker 1: and somehow still getting product, still getting somehow, somehow they're
Speaker 1: still still getting hash brown, still getting waffle batter. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I wonder like I feel like waffle House v like
Speaker 1: maybe talk about takes over the is the Elysium kind
Speaker 1: of level restaurant, but then waffle Houses like the what
Speaker 1: what Dennis Leary and his crew eat instead of rats?
Speaker 1: They actually just are like waffle houses there for the people.
Speaker 1: The people, I mean, you know, as this corporateocracy chugs along,
Speaker 1: like eventually it will be like, yeah, did you go
Speaker 1: to waffle House to get your COVID test and and
Speaker 1: medical distribution? I feel like, yeah, I feel like things
Speaker 1: work better in our brand of like hyper capitalism, when
Speaker 1: there's like two big brands like Coke and pepsi as
Speaker 1: opposed to like you never just have one brand to dominate,
Speaker 1: or when you do, it gets weird, like America after
Speaker 1: the fall of the Soviet Union. So yeah, I think
Speaker 1: demolish Man got it wrong. There's going to be a
Speaker 1: second brand. And I do like waffle houses the prediction
Speaker 1: for that. I just think if if we're already leaning
Speaker 1: on waffle house for refuge in like bad weather, I
Speaker 1: think that boats well for whatever the you know, the
Speaker 1: new White House will just be the waffle House. Probably
Speaker 1: that is the new w H. Yeah, yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1: Yeah this out of the w H. President blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: I wish you'd there at the waffle Joe Biden could
Speaker 1: be so much better if he just moved his house
Speaker 1: into a waffle house. You have a better idea about
Speaker 1: like minimum wage, for sure, you have a lot of
Speaker 1: He would have a better idea, but a lot of things. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if he was forced to always could a waffle house, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that would be like a cool Like if I was
Speaker 1: one of the guys who worked for Biden and pod
Speaker 1: save America, like a waffle House tour of like America
Speaker 1: would be like a good like kind of blue collary
Speaker 1: like gimmick that they could do. And it's branded, baby,
Speaker 1: and it's branded. That's it pays for itself, y'all. I mean,
Speaker 1: get the paperwork up so you read for waffle House
Speaker 1: over the International House of Pancakes. Yes, yeah, I have.
Speaker 1: I have been to eye Hoops before, and they pale
Speaker 1: in comparison to the to the beauty and the potential
Speaker 1: of waffle House. Is there anything that even comes because
Speaker 1: I don't know anybody who's like eye Hoops stand or
Speaker 1: even when they went eye Hobb with the Burgers they
Speaker 1: did that. Oh man, I totally forgot about that. I
Speaker 1: actually like I hop a lot, but I went abroad,
Speaker 1: so like I'm very international, you know, kind of have
Speaker 1: that euro flavor. So all right, let's take a quick
Speaker 1: break and we'll be right back. And we're back. And
Speaker 1: Governor Greg Abbott, who is currently tied with Rhonda Santis
Speaker 1: for like piece of Ship Governor of the Year, has
Speaker 1: announced that he has COVID and part of his statement
Speaker 1: said that because he's vaccinated, the symptoms aren't bad at all,
Speaker 1: but he fell short of actually endorsing the vaccine. We're
Speaker 1: encouraging that Texans to go get the vaccine. But he
Speaker 1: he is, you know, just to be safe. He is
Speaker 1: being treated with monto clonal antibodies AK Regeneron. You do
Speaker 1: your thing, you say, what a fucked up announcement where
Speaker 1: you go, oh, yeah, I got COVID, but don't worry,
Speaker 1: I don't have any symptoms, thank god fully vaccinated. Won't
Speaker 1: push the vaccine, will push the high cost treatment of regenera.
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm actually on anti clonal and monoclonal antibodies,
Speaker 1: So please ignore the part where I said I have
Speaker 1: no symptoms and just also don't don't and connect the
Speaker 1: regenera on to that idea. It's so fucking weird. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't know anyone who has asymptomatic COVID who's taking regeneraal.
Speaker 1: Did you see what he was doing the night before
Speaker 1: he announced he got a positive test. I saw that
Speaker 1: he was in some event that was the massive event
Speaker 1: with old people, the massive old person political event. Yeah,
Speaker 1: within like eighteen hours like leaving that place, He's like,
Speaker 1: I got COVID, y'all. You look at those pictures you're
Speaker 1: like this little fucking they are hacked with and you
Speaker 1: know they're old because there they were for old dressed
Speaker 1: up conservatives with that they were did not I don't know,
Speaker 1: like who knows, maybe everyone there was vaccinated, but yeah,
Speaker 1: probably not. Probably That which is so wild, right, is
Speaker 1: that all their leaders that they look up to vaccinated,
Speaker 1: yet there's no they're not willing to go that other
Speaker 1: step of being like, well, how come you're vaccinated? That
Speaker 1: that is that is kind of the main problem with
Speaker 1: this is that like Abbot's gonna be fine, right, Like
Speaker 1: he's going to be fine, but all the people who
Speaker 1: listen to him are not, Like they don't get the
Speaker 1: same specialized treatment. They're not they're not gonna be vaccinated
Speaker 1: the same way he. They probably aren't vaccinated, or at
Speaker 1: least some of them aren't, you know, because Abbott doesn't
Speaker 1: you know, he's getting he's not. He's not going to
Speaker 1: push it. You know the same thing with Tucker, who's
Speaker 1: probably vaccinated, but he's still gonna push this all, gonna
Speaker 1: pushes the rhetoric to further like than the cultural war
Speaker 1: or drunk or, as Mike Lindell calls him, on the hand,
Speaker 1: the other night he trunk and you're like, trunk, trunk. No, yeah,
Speaker 1: he hasn't been doing he's supposed to be. Like it's
Speaker 1: like Trump and truck, Trump and Tucker together. I'm guessing
Speaker 1: a truck and I don't know, I don't anyway. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but like all of the you know, all the people
Speaker 1: who like follow them for information, they're they're gonna be
Speaker 1: the ones actually who are harmed, you know, for what,
Speaker 1: Like Tucker is gonna be fine if he ever gets COVID,
Speaker 1: Abbot's gonna be fine. It's all of like, it's all
Speaker 1: of like the lower class people who follow them, who
Speaker 1: listen to what they say, they're the ones that are
Speaker 1: actually gonna get hurt by this. That's just the cycle
Speaker 1: that we see in American politics. Okay. And also if
Speaker 1: only there were harsher penalties for closing up to pharmaceutical
Speaker 1: companies when you're a politician, because we've seen it with
Speaker 1: Rand Paul and he's like, oh, did I forgot to
Speaker 1: do I forget to disclose those investments my wife made.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah, maybe it's I don't know anyway,
Speaker 1: let we'll talk about later. It does nothing. It's just
Speaker 1: crickets underneath the surface. Meanwhile, you have the Santists and
Speaker 1: Abbott like doing just commercials for fucking regeneron. No one's
Speaker 1: like kind of like huh, what what's going on here?
Speaker 1: The one interesting thing is like if you look, if
Speaker 1: you just search regeneration, like some of the articles are
Speaker 1: like man stock prices are going up as GOP governors
Speaker 1: touted as a as a viable treatment for COVID. It's
Speaker 1: like it's in barns right now. We just don't have
Speaker 1: any social infrastructure built to like get any energy behind
Speaker 1: something that doesn't make money for someone. So like, because
Speaker 1: the vaccine is not monetized in any way, we just
Speaker 1: can't get people to like just give a shit about it,
Speaker 1: like enough to like send it, send it to like
Speaker 1: get get people actually getting it. And we can't and
Speaker 1: and and we and we don't do good marketing for it.
Speaker 1: That's the other thing is like this country really runs
Speaker 1: on marketing and the marketing that's been done for the
Speaker 1: vaccine because it does. Also it also runs on duncan
Speaker 1: because of marketing. Yeah, it's all of these things that
Speaker 1: have been embedded in our brains and we don't have
Speaker 1: the same good marketing for the vaccine because there's no
Speaker 1: business for it. It's not it's not something that's being monetized,
Speaker 1: which is why you know, people just slap Sauci's face
Speaker 1: on stuff and think that's good enough, when even that
Speaker 1: actually makes people less lucky to get the vaccine. The
Speaker 1: more we push Faucci and vaccine stuff, it's divorce. It gets. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we we need to rethink the way we're doing marketing
Speaker 1: around the vaccine and start using the techniques we use
Speaker 1: for like monetized marketing, because that's what actually works. We're
Speaker 1: just not doing it for this. I think we just
Speaker 1: need to start charging money for the vaccine get able
Speaker 1: to actually get it. Yeah, I'd be like, sorry, all right,
Speaker 1: So we got an experimental vaccine that's actually made by
Speaker 1: Nike and Apple and it is no no, no conservatives,
Speaker 1: Hey Nike, sorry, John Dear and New Balance and Apple
Speaker 1: Sentience Chevy Silverado pickup truck and just get get people
Speaker 1: actually feeling like it's it's worth something, because that's the
Speaker 1: only version of being worth something that American brains can handle.
Speaker 1: Like you you joked about like getting like vaccinated at
Speaker 1: waffle house, but like that's the actual things that work.
Speaker 1: Is going to the places where these you know, where
Speaker 1: people go in there everyday lives. Be like, yeah, here
Speaker 1: you can get your you can get your COVID shot
Speaker 1: at your local grocery store when you're waiting in line,
Speaker 1: like you know, like all these little things are the
Speaker 1: things that actually work. Yeah. Meanwhile, Regenera on with like
Speaker 1: is able to make so much money off of it
Speaker 1: that they got abbot to catch COVID as a viral
Speaker 1: stunt like that, right, that's impressive. I mean, hey, look
Speaker 1: he's he says like, look, dude, I'll post to my
Speaker 1: main social channels too. I'll post to my personal socials, dude, Like,
Speaker 1: let's work out an influencer deal here. But yeah, their
Speaker 1: stock price has gone up thirty centence yere, oh my god,
Speaker 1: a bit of a bit of a pretty penny. If
Speaker 1: you are invested in Regendera on Pharmaceuticals, I should have
Speaker 1: put all my money and for general On this year
Speaker 1: instead of bitcoin. They lost it all and I could
Speaker 1: have could have just got gener On money. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: and probably just to lose it all again with whatever
Speaker 1: scheme they got going over there. But then even like
Speaker 1: one of the founders sons was like running for Congress.
Speaker 1: If you remember last year, it's just like you know,
Speaker 1: they're like, put my young kid in there and he'll
Speaker 1: just be the stewds who does my bidding as a
Speaker 1: congress person. It's very very murky over there. It's yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, wait, the more you learn about American history,
Speaker 1: the more you realize, like this is, this has always
Speaker 1: been the thing to bail out the rich in favor
Speaker 1: of like the American government basically chose to create railroad
Speaker 1: barons in place of like actually helping the South with
Speaker 1: reconstruction like that. That's basically the decision that they made
Speaker 1: because it's just they always go with the money, like
Speaker 1: from John Well speaking of always going with the money.
Speaker 1: So David Sackler is one of the members of the
Speaker 1: Sackler family who you know not only manufactured oxycontent, but
Speaker 1: also we're a big part of the marketing that made
Speaker 1: it seem like a good, unharmful idea to doctors to
Speaker 1: over prescribe it, actually like paid for research, put it
Speaker 1: in medical journals, and you know, just completely created the
Speaker 1: current situation we have with the devastating opioid crisis, and
Speaker 1: the US government, by the way, is going after usually
Speaker 1: immigrant doctors instead of the Sackler family. But right this
Speaker 1: is a produe Pharma, the company that the Sackler zone,
Speaker 1: which is the maker of OxyContin. Like everyone knows how
Speaker 1: bad oxy is, how bad the opioid epidemic is, how
Speaker 1: the Sacklers and Purdue or like willfully just downplaying how
Speaker 1: addictive and damaging it could be to get you know,
Speaker 1: become dependent on these these medications fucking drugs. At this point, well,
Speaker 1: this fucking guy essentially went into court and said, look,
Speaker 1: here's the deal, because right now as it stands is
Speaker 1: they've they've agreed to pay four and a half billion
Speaker 1: dollars as part of a settlement to just be like, oops,
Speaker 1: sorry about a half a million, over half a million
Speaker 1: people dying on you know, just off the strength of
Speaker 1: these drugs, and who knows countless others probably if you
Speaker 1: really game it out to like other addictions. But saying, okay, look,
Speaker 1: we know we're gonna have to pay this four and
Speaker 1: a half billion as just a minimum to sort of
Speaker 1: write the the sort of epidemic of opioid addiction. But
Speaker 1: then he said, unless my family and others involved with
Speaker 1: this are granted blanket immunity from legal repercussions. We are
Speaker 1: not going to pay the four and a half billion
Speaker 1: dollars and funk a settlement because if you want to
Speaker 1: go there, we got money and we can go. We
Speaker 1: can see every motherfucker in court till the day we
Speaker 1: fucking die, and we will out legal fee your ass.
Speaker 1: So what the funk you gonna do? He essentially is
Speaker 1: holding this settlement hostage in exchange for immunity from any
Speaker 1: fucking more legal rep It's um let me just read
Speaker 1: to some of the ship. He says. Quote or not,
Speaker 1: this isn't a quote, but essentially this is a from
Speaker 1: the New York Times quote. He said the family anticipated
Speaker 1: that the liability shield would cover him, other members of
Speaker 1: his extensive family, and and about a thousand other individuals,
Speaker 1: including contractors and consultants, and protect them from lawsuits that
Speaker 1: had nothing to do with opioids. That means they would
Speaker 1: be forever immunized from any current in future lawsuits worldwide
Speaker 1: related not only directly to produce opioids, but to other
Speaker 1: drugs the company makes, including drugs for addiction, reversal, high cholesterol,
Speaker 1: and even constipation as a result of taking prescription opioids.
Speaker 1: That really feels like even threatening that should be a
Speaker 1: crime like this enough like weird thin school like that
Speaker 1: that No, like that's that that shouldn't be how it works. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And you know to your point, Jack, like everything is
Speaker 1: set up here so if you're wealthy, no one's gonna
Speaker 1: get able to get one over on you because even
Speaker 1: in this situation, you've they've got your as dead to
Speaker 1: rights and you go in here saying, you know what, Actually,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna pay for an app billion because if
Speaker 1: I really think about it, I'm gonna hear this is
Speaker 1: what I'll do. I'll flip this into a fucking legal
Speaker 1: immunity shield forever for everyone. I know, because at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, the legal system is set up
Speaker 1: that if you have more means, then you can just
Speaker 1: get people locked up in this cycle of litigation until
Speaker 1: they go broke and then they won't they can answer
Speaker 1: him anymore. It's great. I mean, we have the documentation
Speaker 1: where they are taking into account the opioid crisis and
Speaker 1: saying keep keep your foot on the gas, like keep
Speaker 1: let's keep pushing. We we have like they need to
Speaker 1: be treated the Sacler family. They need to be treated
Speaker 1: like like el choo yah seize his assets. What what
Speaker 1: are you talking about? He either or just go seize
Speaker 1: his assets like he's a drug dealer, because that's what
Speaker 1: he is. I mean, I think that's the beauty of
Speaker 1: how you know, these industries are set up and how
Speaker 1: government interacts with them. That it's like, well, if you're
Speaker 1: making see, at least we can get collect taxes off
Speaker 1: of some of these opioids. But the fucking other hard
Speaker 1: drugs from Cartel's well, just I don't know what what
Speaker 1: do we do there? Yeah, we just don't have the
Speaker 1: same there's just no even though the stakes are the
Speaker 1: exact same, loss of human life due to people's cares
Speaker 1: disregard for it, that somehow we're putting it in the
Speaker 1: white collar section where it's and lots of the other
Speaker 1: harder drugs are like way less addictive, way less harmful
Speaker 1: to doxy cotton. Right, Uh, good good things we have
Speaker 1: set up here? Yeah? Yeah, and yeah, I I you'd
Speaker 1: hope that you lived in a country where it didn't
Speaker 1: take them being like fine, I guess we'll settle. Are
Speaker 1: you happy where they could just say fuck that? You
Speaker 1: just you're killing people willfully. I don't give a fun
Speaker 1: no funk, we're taking your ship. They honestly couldn't be
Speaker 1: more guilty. Like when you read the history of the family,
Speaker 1: you read that the founder of the company and like
Speaker 1: one of the lead like person who brought this family
Speaker 1: into the pharmaceutical industry was the person who came up
Speaker 1: with the idea of marketing two doctors about medication and
Speaker 1: like misleading doctors. Like he came up with the original
Speaker 1: sin that caused this whole thing. It's like they couldn't
Speaker 1: be more clear cut, like the right family to just
Speaker 1: seize all their assets and you know, no, yeah, like
Speaker 1: they should get their assets these to pay the five
Speaker 1: billion dollars and still face legal groupercussions. It should all happen.
Speaker 1: And he's funny, David jack you and David Sackler at
Speaker 1: the same age, but like he looks like some fucking hell.
Speaker 1: He does look so much older. Wow, he's forty one.
Speaker 1: He's one whoa all of his evil things has like
Speaker 1: coused him to h I know, it's funny. It's like
Speaker 1: the Trump kids. You wear that karma on your face
Speaker 1: like it sucks it out of you. Wow. That's amazing. Wow, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's I was just thinking about stuff like that. I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: that's like when you just think people born at the
Speaker 1: same time have these fucking this His worldview has been
Speaker 1: completely insulated from like the evil of his family's money,
Speaker 1: and he's out here with his chest. I'd be like,
Speaker 1: we won't pay unless you give us immunity, and that's
Speaker 1: threatening to blow up this settlement that a lot of
Speaker 1: people are counting on this money to come through, because
Speaker 1: now they're like, well hold up, bro, we're gonna fucking
Speaker 1: give them m So it's we'll see how this plays out.
Speaker 1: But a lot of people, especially like different states and
Speaker 1: groups that agree to this, definitely don't want some you know,
Speaker 1: fucking the star from Mario to protect him and his
Speaker 1: family to be like invincible from now on. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I mean the family members who he's probably like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, this is the best thing for my family
Speaker 1: long term because I'll be able to like have money
Speaker 1: for future generations of kids. And you know there that
Speaker 1: that ship is evident to everyone, whether they want to
Speaker 1: like admit it consciously or whether it just like festers
Speaker 1: in the unconscious and makes them look like they're seventy
Speaker 1: when they're actually forty five years old. Like you're you're
Speaker 1: not actually getting away with it. There's a there's a
Speaker 1: psychological toll. Alright, let's talk real quick about this new
Speaker 1: study that I just wanted to address because I could
Speaker 1: see it kind of getting misinterpreted by the vaccine hesitant
Speaker 1: groups that you know, like to gass each other up
Speaker 1: on Facebook and what's app. So there's a new paper
Speaker 1: from Carnegie Mellon that says that the curve, like they
Speaker 1: did a broad poll that's you know, statistically significant, but
Speaker 1: not like definitive in any way, but it is an interesting,
Speaker 1: like kind of statistical trend. They found that the curve
Speaker 1: for vaccine hesitancy is you shaped where basically, you know,
Speaker 1: people who are not college educated are the second most
Speaker 1: likely to be vaccine hesitant. Then you kind of go down, down, down,
Speaker 1: like as you get to like college educated, master's degree, etcetera.
Speaker 1: But then it goes back up when you get to
Speaker 1: PhD s and like the more educated, like the people
Speaker 1: who have the most advanced degrees. And that is something
Speaker 1: that I feel like would have been very surprising and
Speaker 1: like worrying to me, like when I was younger, I
Speaker 1: guess and like just kind of hadn't read as much
Speaker 1: about like the fact that that same curve is true
Speaker 1: of like cult membership as well, like that that's the
Speaker 1: same thing that happens with people joining cults. They're actually,
Speaker 1: you know, people with higher education are more likely to
Speaker 1: join cults than those with less less education. And they
Speaker 1: also found in this study that the like PhD candidates are,
Speaker 1: people with PhD s were the least likely to change
Speaker 1: their mind on the subject, which I think is also
Speaker 1: kind of instructive because the reason for the cult and
Speaker 1: this trend, I think are that they are it's basically
Speaker 1: the smarter you are. It's not the more likely you
Speaker 1: are to be right, it's the better you are at
Speaker 1: arguing for whatever you want to believe. And so you
Speaker 1: are just more you're better at constructing an argument that
Speaker 1: makes it makes you feel like you are special and
Speaker 1: better than everybody else. Like it's just there's there's something
Speaker 1: about Americans that makes us want to be special, that
Speaker 1: makes us want to resist being feeling like we're part
Speaker 1: of like a herd where we're like following community or yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: and and so I think, like this makes total sense
Speaker 1: to me that they they would be able to convince
Speaker 1: themselves with this self serving like version of reality where
Speaker 1: they're like special. Yeah, and it's also not all PhD s.
Speaker 1: It's still a small minority of PhD whould leave you
Speaker 1: r pH D. The chances are high though that you might, uh,
Speaker 1: you might be heavy with the vaccine. I mean it's
Speaker 1: like so not high, but higher than I totally get that.
Speaker 1: And I look in my own life. I have people
Speaker 1: in my life who have very high degrees and are
Speaker 1: very resistant and like sort of within the you know,
Speaker 1: family or friend group have occupied a space of like
Speaker 1: person you're not going to ever win an argument with
Speaker 1: because they'll just they'll just like you know, they're not
Speaker 1: necessarily just going to throw out a bunch of false
Speaker 1: ship that you have to be like the Gish gallopy
Speaker 1: type debate style, but like truly like always trying to
Speaker 1: triangulate another position in the middle of like fleeing another
Speaker 1: position to stay like I guess rhetorically superior in that sense.
Speaker 1: And I and and it's playing out now into hesitancy
Speaker 1: vaccine hesitancy and in a way when I'm just like, yeah, actually,
Speaker 1: when you think of the cult stuff and things like that,
Speaker 1: like it's the same thing of well, you're certainly not
Speaker 1: going to convince me. Definitely not gonna be you, because
Speaker 1: I've already I've already done the triangulations and calculations about
Speaker 1: this and I and I'm fine here. And it's hard
Speaker 1: because it's not like there's you know, especially without advanced degree.
Speaker 1: They're sort of reinforced this idea that you know enough
Speaker 1: that some other person clearly is going to know more
Speaker 1: than you. Alright, let's take a quick break and we'll
Speaker 1: come back and talk about chat Hanks and Nazis, and
Speaker 1: we're back. And so, Garrison, you wrote about how chet
Speaker 1: Hanks is like meme spawning declaration that we were about
Speaker 1: to see a white boy summer back in the spring
Speaker 1: was kind of seized on by white supremacists and Nazi
Speaker 1: groups to to create memes you and you and Robert
Speaker 1: Evans wrote about this for Belling Cat, and I just
Speaker 1: wanted to kind of get your your take on that,
Speaker 1: and then also like get your thoughts on us since
Speaker 1: you guys published that. I believe he has come out
Speaker 1: with his anti vax or video, just like I'm curious
Speaker 1: if you think he is consciously chasing a right wing
Speaker 1: fan base because he recognizes that's like his best chance
Speaker 1: at fame. Yeah, so, like the white Boy Summer thing
Speaker 1: was obviously inevitably going to get used by Nazis. It's
Speaker 1: called white Boy Summer, right like that, Like like that
Speaker 1: that part's obvious. So what the kind of what the
Speaker 1: article was kind of more about I was talking about
Speaker 1: was like tracking what groups were using that meme and
Speaker 1: the type of propaganda they were making and what their
Speaker 1: main goal was out of it. It was terrifying the
Speaker 1: propaganda that you guys, yeah, I mean, and we we
Speaker 1: didn't we didn't share the worst of it, Like there
Speaker 1: was like there was a lot a lot worse stuff
Speaker 1: that we have saved to our hard drives for later
Speaker 1: because it's like it got it got used by a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of accelerationist neo Nazi groups to basically push
Speaker 1: this meme, which is, you know, it covers a broad
Speaker 1: range of political spectrums from like you know, it's it's
Speaker 1: not it's not just a Nazi thing. Um. So like
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of if you like search
Speaker 1: the white Bosomer hashtags, you get a lot of a
Speaker 1: lot of different stuff. So if you could insert accelerationists
Speaker 1: propaganda into it, you can get seen by a lot
Speaker 1: more people that wouldn't usually see that type of media. So,
Speaker 1: you know, one of the main groups that was starting
Speaker 1: to use this stuff more and more was the Nick
Speaker 1: Fuentez Graper group, and they were starting to plan like
Speaker 1: actual like rallies. They were starting to like you know,
Speaker 1: they were teaming up with Paul Gosar to do like
Speaker 1: White Boy Summer events, so like they were trying. The
Speaker 1: wather that was concerning about them is that they're taking
Speaker 1: this online thing and putting it into the real world,
Speaker 1: which is always like a very notable escalation of because
Speaker 1: that that just introduces a whole lot more possibilities, and
Speaker 1: trying to look into like the origin of who was
Speaker 1: pushing this meme, especially the more extreme parts of it,
Speaker 1: like you know, even more extreme than like Proud Boys,
Speaker 1: like like much more like weird accelerationist Nazis. There's there's
Speaker 1: some like a whole bunch of people behind the scenes
Speaker 1: who are creating propaganda and pushing certain aesthetics through this
Speaker 1: meme to kind of push people down very very dangerous
Speaker 1: rabbit holes online. You know, lots of lots of stuff
Speaker 1: that's not even like worth talking about because it's just
Speaker 1: it's very it's bet it's it's better to not even
Speaker 1: know about it. So there was a whole bunch of
Speaker 1: the whole bunch of stuff behind the scenes going on
Speaker 1: with this meme and the particular aesthetics that that they
Speaker 1: were using, like the like the like the orangey beach
Speaker 1: aesthetic that that kind of follows a certain path down
Speaker 1: you know, whether you're searching on like telegraph or even
Speaker 1: places on like Instagram, when you're trying to follow that aesthetic,
Speaker 1: you can lead up into some very bizarre places. And
Speaker 1: then as for like chat, it's always hard to kind
Speaker 1: of gauge someone's especially someone like him, who's like a
Speaker 1: who's like a public figure, like his intentions, because he
Speaker 1: definitely sees this. I mean, like if you saw like
Speaker 1: the first White Boys summer video of him, of him
Speaker 1: in his car and that that like went viral, he
Speaker 1: obviously was like, Oh, this is something that's gonna go
Speaker 1: this this went viral. I just find a way to
Speaker 1: to like make you know, make a bigger deal of
Speaker 1: this with people will watch me, so that he made
Speaker 1: the terrible music video. Um, so you know, he's very
Speaker 1: much trying to follow where attention leads and attention is
Speaker 1: still kind of on him, So he's gonna keep doing
Speaker 1: things that are controversial, quote unquote, but I don't think
Speaker 1: he's gonna do anything that takes action, action, actual stance
Speaker 1: and anything, because he's in a really convenient spot right
Speaker 1: now that people can watch his content who are who
Speaker 1: don't have strong feelings one way or the other, um
Speaker 1: or have strong feelings one way. It's it's about he
Speaker 1: can't attract both of them because of the type of
Speaker 1: stuff that he's doing. So he's very much trying to
Speaker 1: piggyback off of the kind of cultural warry type stuff,
Speaker 1: but without actually having to take an actual position on anything.
Speaker 1: And it's more, it's more concerning for the Whitby Summer
Speaker 1: thing was that like he was just being used by
Speaker 1: people with you know, much worse intentions, where where his
Speaker 1: intention is mostly just monetary and for attention. And I
Speaker 1: I have not watched his vaccine video because I watched
Speaker 1: the White Voice I'm a rapid That was about all
Speaker 1: I could take. But but you know, it's it's the
Speaker 1: same thing. Yeah, it's it's it's the same thing. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to figure out, what's the thing that's gonna get
Speaker 1: you know, trending on Twitter, so people can like see
Speaker 1: me do my little thing, and that's the thing he's
Speaker 1: currently doing. Right. Yeah, it definitely I mean I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: without him knowing or not, you definitely see the pattern
Speaker 1: of someone who's on the fringes of celebrity and things
Speaker 1: like that doing whatever they can to find their audience.
Speaker 1: And some and a lot of the times, especially with
Speaker 1: comedians who have been you know, have to you know,
Speaker 1: people be like, well, you know, we're not really working
Speaker 1: with this person anymore. They typically find a home on
Speaker 1: the alt right especially, and it's like because of this
Speaker 1: victims of cancelation or whatever, they're very it's very easy
Speaker 1: to be a far right quote unquote comedian. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I think yeah, with him, you can sort of see
Speaker 1: that consciously or not. It seems like he's probably he
Speaker 1: sees attention, he sees numbers, and then that's what's pulling
Speaker 1: him in that direction. Because the whole the anti vactor thing,
Speaker 1: it felt like he it's like he had been consuming
Speaker 1: like anti vaxx or media because the setup of it
Speaker 1: was very much like meant to be a troll meme
Speaker 1: for anti vactors, where it was like he's taking on
Speaker 1: the you know, the energy and disposition of someone who's
Speaker 1: caring about the pandemic and and asking people to take
Speaker 1: the viruses and then switching it up with his psych
Speaker 1: and then going into his fucking patois bullshit. Whatever the
Speaker 1: funk he's do. You know, his jam making accent he got, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's definitely, He's definitely a space worth watching, especially if
Speaker 1: he's gonna keep doing this thing, because the one thing
Speaker 1: that's been interesting about it that he's he's had his
Speaker 1: finger on the pulse for a lot of for a
Speaker 1: lot of things, whether he knows that or not. Right,
Speaker 1: like the white Summer thing ballooned to such a large degree,
Speaker 1: especially online, for you know, to the point where I'm
Speaker 1: like sitting down and watching hours of like Nazi propaganda
Speaker 1: about enacting specific acts of terrorism. It's like, you see
Speaker 1: like this like weird, like you know, chaos theory effect
Speaker 1: of you know, the butterfly makes the makes this video
Speaker 1: in his car and I'm watching this video about how
Speaker 1: different ways you can like shoot up X place. You know,
Speaker 1: I'll take with white boys summer hashtags and with with
Speaker 1: like aesthetics, and you know, it's the same thing with
Speaker 1: you know. So that was like the that was like
Speaker 1: the pulse in early spring, and the news thing we're
Speaker 1: seeing is a whole bunch of like neo nazis trying
Speaker 1: to infiltrate and co opt like anti vax rallies. You're
Speaker 1: seeing a lot of this across the country, and we're
Speaker 1: seeing it here in Oregon where I'm at. We're seeing
Speaker 1: it like in every city. We're seeing a lot of
Speaker 1: this in Los Angeles. So it's the same thing. It's
Speaker 1: like he's he's he's on he's you know, whether it's
Speaker 1: on purpose or not or just you know, it's a
Speaker 1: weird like synchronicity of events. He's had his finger on
Speaker 1: a pulse for a lot of these things that turn
Speaker 1: out to be big problems. And this the anti VAXX
Speaker 1: thing and the anti vaxx like in person rallies, they're
Speaker 1: not gonna be going away anytime soon. They're gonna keep
Speaker 1: going because it's not actually about the vaccine. It's about
Speaker 1: people who want to get imperson mobilization, and they're using
Speaker 1: the vaccine as an excuse to do that. There's something
Speaker 1: almost magnetic for dumb narcissists and the right. It seems like, yeah,
Speaker 1: like because Trump started up as a Democrat, you know,
Speaker 1: and then slowly, by slowly as just a somebody who
Speaker 1: possesses a sucking black hole in the middle of their
Speaker 1: being that like needs to be filled with attention. They
Speaker 1: just like he just lowly gravitated over there. Kanye, I
Speaker 1: think suffers from one of the more you know, extreme
Speaker 1: case of narcissism that we've ever seen in the public stage.
Speaker 1: And like that he kind of gravitated over there, and
Speaker 1: Chat Hanks seems to be similar, similar situation. It just
Speaker 1: seems like that is a deadly combination that seems to
Speaker 1: never head in a in a good direction. No, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: And I think especially with you see a lot of
Speaker 1: the like I saw so many videos where like Proud
Speaker 1: Boys were they're working with these anti vax people to
Speaker 1: just essentially be like, Okay, well here's a group of
Speaker 1: people who mostly aligned, but they're in physical space, so
Speaker 1: let's let's see what we can get going here. Yea,
Speaker 1: And yeah, that combination is just it's it. It's it's
Speaker 1: frightening to see just sort of evolved constantly. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know, yeah, well I don't know if Chat
Speaker 1: Hanks is going to be doing a you know, fucking
Speaker 1: tour with Lauren Lauren Bobert and Matt Gates or some ship.
Speaker 1: Then we'll mean the thing that will be interested to
Speaker 1: see is like where if he's getting interviewed by outlets
Speaker 1: where he gets interviews and what outlets are doing it
Speaker 1: like that? That's the thing, Like, you know, is he
Speaker 1: going to show up on Stephen Crowder's show sometimes? You know,
Speaker 1: That's the kind of thing that I'll be con that's
Speaker 1: this where is that's worth watching to figure it out?
Speaker 1: Like what is this guy actually doing that? Yeah? Where
Speaker 1: he's going to try to get you know, his media
Speaker 1: boosted and and and what media is boosting it without
Speaker 1: his involvement? You know, what's the places that are spreading
Speaker 1: his stuff in hopes of creating memes off of it? Well,
Speaker 1: I think one group that we do know that is
Speaker 1: fucking with him is the rapper Soldier Boy because the
Speaker 1: most recent thing that is coming out is that he's
Speaker 1: signed Chat Hanks signed with Soldier Boys record label. Interesting,
Speaker 1: so we'll see, We'll see what chat Hanks does with
Speaker 1: that one, hmm. Because he's just because we know so
Speaker 1: badly he wants to be black. So who he's going
Speaker 1: about this in the weirdest way chat. But you know,
Speaker 1: we'll see his record. He looks like, but yes, Soldier
Speaker 1: Boy says. He's like, you know, I can't it's going down,
Speaker 1: That's what he's saying this clip. So I guess Chad
Speaker 1: Hanks is his new artist. So yeah, watch watch this space.
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. All right, let's do a quick kind of
Speaker 1: lightweight pop culture salad. Like we mentioned, there are gender
Speaker 1: revealed Cheddar Bay biscuits being rolled out by Red Lobster.
Speaker 1: How do you do this? I mean, it's just in
Speaker 1: my mind, just how they do it. So there, there's
Speaker 1: there's a little bit of Tanna right in each biscuit
Speaker 1: with with some with some die and you shoot the
Speaker 1: biscuit and the tan right blows up inside the Red Lobster.
Speaker 1: Oh gotta gotta, gotta gotta god. It is it just
Speaker 1: that it's the interior is hidden. Yeah, the interiors hid,
Speaker 1: and I think there's like some I definitely feel like
Speaker 1: the interior of Cheddar Bay biscuits are maybe a different
Speaker 1: consistency from the exterior. Right there, a little bit gooey,
Speaker 1: a little bit like soft, and so they're just taking
Speaker 1: whatever that ingredient is and it's gross. It's gross in
Speaker 1: the middle of the cheddar baby. I mean, you know, unfortunately,
Speaker 1: this could save a lot of lives because if people,
Speaker 1: if if people just go to Red Lobster instead of
Speaker 1: blowing up things in the forest, we'll get less. We'll
Speaker 1: get less fathers killed at their gender revealed parties, we'll
Speaker 1: get we'll get less forests burned down by ten red explosions.
Speaker 1: So hopefully this will have a knit good impact. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if it, if it even prevents one forest fires, we
Speaker 1: should be giving them a Nobel Project Critical Support to
Speaker 1: Red Lobster. This is being rolled out because we're coming
Speaker 1: up on September, which is you know, like humanity actually
Speaker 1: has a mating season, like which is around December early January,
Speaker 1: like the holidays, which is weird because I mean, I
Speaker 1: was born in September, so that makes sense. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's you know, it's mainly like a wholesome holiday
Speaker 1: that focuses on kids. But then when you consider all
Speaker 1: the adult portions of the holiday season are focused around
Speaker 1: getting drunk, it starts to make a little more sense
Speaker 1: that that's like the mating season. And then what's your birthday?
Speaker 1: It was sometime in September. I'm I'm about my actual birthday,
Speaker 1: but tell mefre so. Yeah, that's another thing. Girl Scout
Speaker 1: Cookies have announced that they've got a new flavor coming out,
Speaker 1: Brownie Sea Salt Caramel that is apparently the takeout Gotta
Speaker 1: got a sample and said it's good. They also got
Speaker 1: a sample of Guy Fieri's hot Dog apple Pie. Everyone
Speaker 1: says that's good. They say that's a they gave it
Speaker 1: an A. They say it's he doesn't miss Where do
Speaker 1: you buy that? It was only for this It was
Speaker 1: first came up for this Field of Dreams baseball game
Speaker 1: that they did last Thursday that was in Iowa, and
Speaker 1: it was like one of the events like that was
Speaker 1: just one of the things you could buy. Will this
Speaker 1: be rolled out on a larger scale? I mean it
Speaker 1: seems it seems like if they were planning to roll
Speaker 1: it out on a larger scale, they're doing a good
Speaker 1: job of like seating it. But I think it's made
Speaker 1: by Chevrolet or like Chevrolet is like something, because yeah,
Speaker 1: it was something to do with like some ad thing
Speaker 1: where it was like as American as hot dogs, apple
Speaker 1: pies and chevies that get like hopped in to do that.
Speaker 1: If if they can add the vaccine to that good
Speaker 1: marketing right right, But like the takeout was giving Chevy
Speaker 1: like credit for they were like Chevy thought of everything
Speaker 1: with like this like presentation. They gave them, like the
Speaker 1: sweet mustard and like a little thing that looks like
Speaker 1: a oil like for your car would come in it.
Speaker 1: It's kind of nothing makes me hungry like chugging car oil.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely, this other Girl Scout thing, it's a
Speaker 1: brownie cookie brownie cookie, but they said that it's not
Speaker 1: like chewy like a brownie. It's actually kind of crumbly
Speaker 1: like a Girl Scout cookie. I think this flavor is
Speaker 1: like four years too old. If they did this flavor
Speaker 1: four years ago, they could have hit the height of
Speaker 1: the seasiled caramel brownie zeitgeist. Yeah, I think right now
Speaker 1: it's a little dated. We need to find the new thing.
Speaker 1: It's because I'm telling you it's gonna be mango mangoes,
Speaker 1: the new thing of the mid twain. It just actually
Speaker 1: I eat one last night. Right now, we're hitting peak
Speaker 1: birthday cake. Yeah, that the fun fetti aesthetic. I think
Speaker 1: we're I think we're on the way down from that
Speaker 1: trend because for a while, that birthday cake ship was
Speaker 1: it still is, it's fucking everywhere. So I think we're
Speaker 1: late for the birth get birthday cake trend. They don't
Speaker 1: even have a birthday cake flavor do that? No? No,
Speaker 1: I've always relied on the Girl Scouts to be like
Speaker 1: ahead of the curve. Well now that's right the behind.
Speaker 1: So we'll get a birthday cake one in two years now. Yeah, unfortunate. Wait,
Speaker 1: why do you think mango is gonna be what? What's
Speaker 1: what are you seeing out there with mangoes that you
Speaker 1: felt you feel so strong that that's I don't know.
Speaker 1: I was, I was, I was walking through safe Way
Speaker 1: last night, and there's a bunch of new new mango
Speaker 1: flavors and just following propaganda colors like like you know,
Speaker 1: like if you do like color theory for like propaganda
Speaker 1: and memes, we're getting a lot of mango ish colors
Speaker 1: coming up in like yeah, a lot of like sunset
Speaker 1: type stuff is getting more popular, and they kind of
Speaker 1: like I think, like birthday cake is very like two
Speaker 1: twelve thing that kind of like darker like coffee, Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: and and the kind of like darker like coffee brownie
Speaker 1: sea salt caramel thing. It's a very like twenty seventeen thing.
Speaker 1: And I think we're gonna get some like brighter but
Speaker 1: like brighter in like a sunset way mango ish type
Speaker 1: kind of stuff happening in the next few years for
Speaker 1: like marketing and for food. That's kind of my that's
Speaker 1: that's my rough prediction and for all in mango futures. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna take all my money out of regeneration
Speaker 1: and put it all in the big big mango. That's
Speaker 1: the thing. It's one of the jewel flavors that was
Speaker 1: considered like too good. We got to pull this from
Speaker 1: the Yeah, oh my god, I'm just thinking about weed now.
Speaker 1: Right now, Mango big flavor and mango vibes tropical fruit
Speaker 1: vibe strains are coming in because it's weird and legalized.
Speaker 1: Weed is also having to figure out how to market
Speaker 1: to new smokers to or new consumers, so they are
Speaker 1: I do see this other thing of like it's very food,
Speaker 1: like the cookies and the skittles. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: combining like food sensation or flavors like with like or
Speaker 1: at least incorporating that with like the naming of different strains.
Speaker 1: So yeah, you know what I'm going on in on
Speaker 1: Mango futures. Not for nothing, but I was just listening
Speaker 1: to a podcast where they were talking about Chris Catan
Speaker 1: being cooked up at a child birthday party. So Mango
Speaker 1: Mango again against and that may be a reference a
Speaker 1: little too old for our guest. Are you aware of
Speaker 1: the SNL character Mango who was like a male exotic
Speaker 1: dancer kind of do? Okay, well, I think that it's
Speaker 1: probably true of most people. Damn, I'm living in my
Speaker 1: own bubble for a second. Jack, When you said that,
Speaker 1: that fucked me up because I almost wanted to say
Speaker 1: I refuse to believe people don't know who Mango is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I just had to shut the funk off for that,
Speaker 1: such as Mango all right? And then finally we are
Speaker 1: going to give out some streaming corner assignments. Producer on A.
Speaker 1: Hosnia has given us our marching orders two shows. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll probably go with White Lotus first because it's all
Speaker 1: out at this point. I watched the first episode last night,
Speaker 1: so I'm speaking of being behind the curve. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: a like like the girl Scout cookies way behind the
Speaker 1: curve on this one. But man, there's something about just
Speaker 1: like the mixture of performances and the look and the
Speaker 1: weird vibes and I don't know, it ends like not
Speaker 1: on a cliffhanger, and I was like, I need to
Speaker 1: keep watching this, like right now. It's yeah, it's I mean,
Speaker 1: it's a fun watch. I think I had an experience
Speaker 1: well we'll talk about in the show, but at the
Speaker 1: very least, yeah, the it's getting people talking. People have
Speaker 1: many different things I think they wanted from the show.
Speaker 1: Other people I think saw the show for what it was,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I think a really good exploration. And like
Speaker 1: whenever I see like Mike White, I'm like, that dude's
Speaker 1: a writer. I'm like, I just know him as like
Speaker 1: the dude from Nacho Libre and like always working with
Speaker 1: Jack Black, like School of Rock and stuff. But he's
Speaker 1: he's been around. It turns out, so that's that's plays
Speaker 1: a character and natural libre. Yeah, he's an actor. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he was, he's been if you if you see his face,
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, that's right, this dude is. He's an
Speaker 1: actor too. But I also didn't realize that he was
Speaker 1: also like a writer and producer on like Dawson's Creek
Speaker 1: and ship like that. Oh yeah, I know this dude
Speaker 1: like that. And then Reservation Dogs were i think three
Speaker 1: episodes into the first season of that show being released
Speaker 1: on Hulu, and that's I think the best show I've
Speaker 1: seen in a long time. Have you seen have you
Speaker 1: heard about Reservation Dsyrrison. He has the taycho y t
Speaker 1: t and what is the I want to say the
Speaker 1: other creator's name, Sterling Harjo Sterling Sterling. That's oh yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, taycho y t t and Sterlin Harjoe that
Speaker 1: It's so good. It's just so good because this is
Speaker 1: like what happens when you give people their own writer's
Speaker 1: room to right about their experiences and make a show
Speaker 1: about their experiences through their lens and through without having
Speaker 1: to put it through some other persons aesthetic. And it's
Speaker 1: it's just so unique. And it's like one of those
Speaker 1: shows too that I watched the first couple episodes, I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, God, there's something like new worth getting
Speaker 1: excited about that is like saying something really interesting but
Speaker 1: also having fun with it. Yeah. Yeah, we have a
Speaker 1: bounty of of riches at the moment comedically and TV wise,
Speaker 1: And I feel like every one of these kids who
Speaker 1: play as a character on this is going to be
Speaker 1: a famous actor. Like they're all so good and like
Speaker 1: so just yeah, they I feel like they're all they
Speaker 1: like discovered a bunch of people. This will be like
Speaker 1: a freaks and geeks type thing we're calling here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but again, is that gang checkout White Lotus first or not, whatever,
Speaker 1: but we're gonna be talking about it. And I just again,
Speaker 1: if you love Jennifer Coolidge, you gotta watch the show.
Speaker 1: You've got to give it up to the god. The
Speaker 1: god is Jennifer Coolidge. Oh my god, I watched it
Speaker 1: with my wife and the just like batting like nine
Speaker 1: hundred for laugh out loud lines from Jennifer Coolidge, like
Speaker 1: everything she said, my wife was just dying. But then, yeah,
Speaker 1: Reservation Dogs is a must watch. We won't respect you
Speaker 1: if you don't watch it. You gotta watch it. That's
Speaker 1: great exactly, Or don't hang out with us, don't eat
Speaker 1: lunch with us, and don't even want to talk to you.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that that's coming out the episode by episodes,
Speaker 1: so maybe we'll probably catch up to it by the
Speaker 1: time it fully ends. Yeah, Garrison, such a pleasure as
Speaker 1: always having you. Where can people find you and follow you? Man?
Speaker 1: I can follow my my personal stuff at Hungry bow
Speaker 1: Tie on Twitter, and you can follow all of the
Speaker 1: new shows I'm working on at cool Zone Media and
Speaker 1: the family of podcasts that branch off like it could
Speaker 1: happen here Behind the Bastards and other other fun things
Speaker 1: in the works. Yeah, yeah, And is there Twitter some
Speaker 1: of the work of social media you've been enjoying. There
Speaker 1: is one funny tweet I saw yesterday was this Marxist
Speaker 1: Leninist saying that that that that that FEDS only impersonate
Speaker 1: Trotskyists and anarchists because they can do those ideaogs and
Speaker 1: not Marxil the list, which is very funny because i've i've,
Speaker 1: i've my brain is poisoned by politics. This is like
Speaker 1: the opposite of how FEDS infiltrate activist spaces. And it's
Speaker 1: very funny. And we got to we we got to
Speaker 1: drag this person for so many, so many good tweets
Speaker 1: yesterday because it's just, yeah, it's just really funny when
Speaker 1: Marcus Lendon, let's talk like this, which I know this
Speaker 1: is a very esoteric thing but it's to me, this
Speaker 1: is this, This made my day yesterday. So we we
Speaker 1: we love, we love to drag people on Twitter. Who
Speaker 1: doesn't who doesn't? Miles Where can people find you? What's
Speaker 1: tweet you've been enjoying? Find me Twitter, Instagram at Miles
Speaker 1: of Gray and also fiance if you like ninety day
Speaker 1: and we'd come check out that talk you know, some
Speaker 1: lighter fare with Sophia Alexandra a tweet that I like.
Speaker 1: Let me see first. One is from Roast Malone Underscore. Yeah,
Speaker 1: at Roast Malone Underscore tweeted sticks and stones may break
Speaker 1: my bones, but words will leave me awake at three
Speaker 1: am years later, wondering what you meant by that? And
Speaker 1: it's who hasn't who hasn't marinated on some words from
Speaker 1: long ago. And then the other one is from John
Speaker 1: Lewis at j A W N l O U I
Speaker 1: s has a picture of Kirkland's signature tequila and Jejo
Speaker 1: from Costco, and he tweeted sipping this Costco megos all week.
Speaker 1: Great play on Cosmos and Costco and that together Costco pigs.
Speaker 1: The other The other fun thing on Twitter is watching
Speaker 1: all the conservatives start to be pro Taliban. Yeah. That
Speaker 1: was the other fun thing. They're like, Oh, they're doing
Speaker 1: all these like socially conservative things. I guess we're finding
Speaker 1: the rock side all these years said, You're like, just yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like, I mean, I saw this coming because this
Speaker 1: is how you know, this is this is how conservative
Speaker 1: stuff eventually leads to. Yeah, but it is. It is
Speaker 1: just very funny watching them be like, you know, being
Speaker 1: so pro fighting in the Middle East for so long,
Speaker 1: and now that we're pulling out there, like, oh, I
Speaker 1: guess the Taliban does have a few good points. Actually, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that's what's so funny. We were talking about
Speaker 1: that yesterday. I think of just how they probably, like
Speaker 1: if the choices between siding with people's humanity and being
Speaker 1: empathetic to like the struggle of someone who's being like,
Speaker 1: you know, fleeing Taliban rule or just going all in
Speaker 1: on like people who are doing like a gross ship.
Speaker 1: They're like, yeah, yeah, let's just do that because I'm
Speaker 1: I can't extend my the humanity to those people, so
Speaker 1: I'm team Taliban. Now. Some tweets have been enjoying a
Speaker 1: couple of good New York tweets Kylie break and said,
Speaker 1: I love New York City because near my house they're
Speaker 1: sort of like a pile of dead bird and Alex
Speaker 1: Cole tweeter I love New York and just posted a
Speaker 1: picture of two sons that said get the fucking vaccine,
Speaker 1: wear a fucking mask, which you know like mindes. Oh,
Speaker 1: and then Jeff Stays tweeted telling the song to shut
Speaker 1: up before you skip it haply o, my god, shut
Speaker 1: up changing this. Wow. You know when I do that
Speaker 1: when you plug your phone in and it starts default
Speaker 1: playing the iPod songs or like about your music app
Speaker 1: and you're like, especially yeah, if it's always on the
Speaker 1: same one. I used to have a car that always
Speaker 1: went to the beginning alphabetically and played a punk by
Speaker 1: Vampire weekend and I was just like, oh, my god,
Speaker 1: shut up every time. And I really like, now my
Speaker 1: kids love that song and want me to play it
Speaker 1: all the time. So the world, for whatever reason, is
Speaker 1: trying to make me hate that song and uh, you know, succeeding.
Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien.
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Speaker 1: off to the information that we talked about today's episode
Speaker 1: and the tickets to our live show. And a song
Speaker 1: that we think you might enjoy Miles, what song do
Speaker 1: we think people might enjoy it? Two days? This is
Speaker 1: a collaboration between a songwriter and producer. I like in
Speaker 1: a band. I like it's Krung Been and Knowledge. You
Speaker 1: probably see a Knowledge about K and x W l
Speaker 1: E d g E. But this is their song Dearest
Speaker 1: Alfred Uh in parentheses my joy And if you like
Speaker 1: Krong Been, you know they're very like easy, laid back
Speaker 1: band to listen to. But Knowledge is you know, injecting
Speaker 1: a little bit of more energy and a little more
Speaker 1: pop to their mellow way. So it just makes for
Speaker 1: like a really good easy listening track, you know, for
Speaker 1: for a hot August night. Right, Well go check that
Speaker 1: song out. The Daily Zy guys the production of My
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Speaker 1: listen to your favorite shows. That is going to do
Speaker 1: it for us this morning. But we are back this
Speaker 1: afternoon to tell you what's trending, and we will talk
Speaker 1: to y'all then bye bye, I