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Speaker 1: What is something from your search history? All right? So
Speaker 1: piss profits? Have you guys ever heard of piss profits?
Speaker 1: Because you don't like this? All right? So first, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: about urine piss profit? All right? Yeah, so we did.
Speaker 1: Our most recent episode was called Gender Revealed Parties. So
Speaker 1: we really dove into, you know, all of these events
Speaker 1: that are causing wildfires and deaths and explosions, and we
Speaker 1: wanted to figure out why things had amped up to
Speaker 1: this level. So we on American hysteria, we always try
Speaker 1: to go back to some you know, very root moments
Speaker 1: and kind of show how things have always been the
Speaker 1: same and so right, the sonogram changed the game of
Speaker 1: of gender for babies, right, or of course biological sex.
Speaker 1: So before sonograms, it was pretty much all guessing, right,
Speaker 1: or you know, in the Middle Ages, it was all
Speaker 1: about psychic types of folks coming and trying to determine
Speaker 1: biological sex because the people were always obsessed with kind
Speaker 1: of like the mystery of pregnancy. And that's what we
Speaker 1: kept coming back to in the episode because we wanted
Speaker 1: to go deeper than that. It's fucked up and gender
Speaker 1: essentialists and all, like we know that, So we wanted
Speaker 1: to figure out more about like what what is the
Speaker 1: history of this? And so in the Middle Ages, piss
Speaker 1: profits and they were called this in the Middle Ages,
Speaker 1: which is wonderful, And so they had many different ways
Speaker 1: of kind of examining a woman's yurine to try to
Speaker 1: figure out if she was pregnant and then be what
Speaker 1: the sex of the baby was. So they would do
Speaker 1: things like they would mix it with wine to like
Speaker 1: see how it interacted with the wine. They would smell it,
Speaker 1: they taste it, they would One of the things they
Speaker 1: like to do was burn a ribbon that was soaked
Speaker 1: in urine to see if the woman gagged at the
Speaker 1: smell of the urine. Uh. They would like read the bubbles,
Speaker 1: which is what it sounds like. They're most successful way
Speaker 1: of doing this is they would they would have the
Speaker 1: pregnant woman p in um barley sprouts and a bag
Speaker 1: of wheat or sorry, a bag of barley and a
Speaker 1: bag of wheat, and whicheverone sprouted first would determine the
Speaker 1: biological sex. So anyway, they were able to later kind
Speaker 1: of replicate this experiment in the you know, second half
Speaker 1: of the twentieth century, and it was true that in
Speaker 1: this study women who were pregnant, it actually showed that whatever,
Speaker 1: for whatever reason they think, maybe estrogen or something like
Speaker 1: the up to estrogen level actually did make these things sprout.
Speaker 1: So it is this really interesting, bizarre thing that I
Speaker 1: went down own into of this world of how we
Speaker 1: once you know, we've just so obsessed with the sex
Speaker 1: of the baby, and and a lot of that we
Speaker 1: kind of found was because if you're living in a
Speaker 1: world where gender expression matches biological sex, like you know,
Speaker 1: unfortunately it does in many most cases in America. Then, actually,
Speaker 1: like divining the gender of the child is going to
Speaker 1: kind of tell you like you can divine their future
Speaker 1: a little bit, because if you know, I'm gonna have
Speaker 1: a boy, you can sort of for the first time
Speaker 1: imagine this baby's life. Right, So I think it's really interesting. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: piss profits is my answer. This is the second time
Speaker 1: in less than twenty four hours that somebody has extolled
Speaker 1: the virtues of dark ages piss science to me. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: so the podcast how Attle, so the last podcast on
Speaker 1: the left. I was just listening to this today. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: such a good Yeah. So they're doing a series on
Speaker 1: the plague the Black Death, and they opened the most
Speaker 1: recent episode with just looking at like the state of
Speaker 1: medical science at the time, and they it was interesting
Speaker 1: because they were like, actually, like, you know, we have
Speaker 1: this sense that they would just you know, burn a
Speaker 1: baby bird and like based on the direction the smoke went,
Speaker 1: like that would tell you, you know, what the treatment
Speaker 1: should be. But they had like there was a famous
Speaker 1: experiment where like the Duke of some country or another
Speaker 1: in Europe tried to trick a piss profit by using
Speaker 1: the urine of a pregnant woman and was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is my urine, what do you what do you
Speaker 1: see for me? And they were like, well, congratulations, you're
Speaker 1: gonna give birth in a couple months. Yeah, which hopefully
Speaker 1: it's true. I believe every thing that I hear from
Speaker 1: the Dark Ages, Yeah, everything from up but yeah, piss
Speaker 1: science and then you know that's really popular. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then astrology took over and that was it. So yeah,
Speaker 1: astrology and piss science were the two things that they
Speaker 1: used a lot of in the Middle Ages, and piss
Speaker 1: has held on. We still when piss was king Wait,
Speaker 1: and they called it pissed back then in the even
Speaker 1: the parlance of those times, one of these old that's
Speaker 1: like the kind of yeah storied historians. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: it's yeah. Funk is a great like percussive word that
Speaker 1: is just like powerful in your mouth, no matter and
Speaker 1: like piss, yes, has great dound of piss. They're very
Speaker 1: Anglo Saxon, just yeah, piss. Something I love too is
Speaker 1: that I feel as I feel like this is true
Speaker 1: that the piss profits were sort of like a faux
Speaker 1: paw by the time astrology came like they were like, oh,
Speaker 1: those are really stupid people who are superstitious, and we
Speaker 1: are the real scientists because we're studying the planet, you know,
Speaker 1: And it's just it's weird to think about that. My
Speaker 1: cousin Frank, he's just into piss play. I'm sorry. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but the thing that's blowing my mind is that they're like,
Speaker 1: let's try the experiment now, and those scientists have been like, yeah, right,
Speaker 1: I mean there's must be something to it. I don't
Speaker 1: know or not. Well, you're there's people still have such like,
Speaker 1: you know, because I remember, like in the late eighties
Speaker 1: and stuff, people talking about drinking their piss and ship
Speaker 1: and people still be trying to drink their pea and
Speaker 1: for all the or whatever. I don't know. The properties
Speaker 1: probably know what you're saying, and let me just stop
Speaker 1: you right there. Don't try it. I used that as
Speaker 1: a vertisement to be like, maybe I should give this
Speaker 1: thing a shot. It's not what it's advertised as at all.
Speaker 1: It's not as good as you. It's funny even though
Speaker 1: you you protest now when I actually very directly, can
Speaker 1: you get sick from drinking your own? You're like not,
Speaker 1: you're good. You're good. You're good and trust me, you
Speaker 1: can drink a lot. You can drill it. Actually, anyone
Speaker 1: in your family is safe. All of what. So we
Speaker 1: knew we wanted to have two kids, and we were,
Speaker 1: you know, really curious what our second babies, you know,
Speaker 1: if it was gonna be a boy or a girl.
Speaker 1: And we got so much like pseudo science from people.
Speaker 1: There was like the number of folds and your current
Speaker 1: baby's thighs would tell you whether you're gonna have a
Speaker 1: boy or girl. There's like this entire from the Middle Ages. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's this entire chart that they're like, no, it's actually accurate,
Speaker 1: but it's like based on like complete nonsense, and like
Speaker 1: I had like multiple learned people swear by it, like
Speaker 1: you know, this looks like a chart of like anti bella,
Speaker 1: anti bello and physiognomy, Like yeah, it's my favorite. Was
Speaker 1: baby nurse told us that she like held a medallion
Speaker 1: over our son and like let it spin a number
Speaker 1: of times, and she was like, this works every time
Speaker 1: you guys are going to have a girl. It works
Speaker 1: every time, except sometimes it's the opposite, Like oh, well
Speaker 1: that doesn't work. Wait, and if it's if we're dealing
Speaker 1: in like brutal binaries. Then yeah, sure, I guess you guys,
Speaker 1: I got one for you, modern piss profit sort of
Speaker 1: urban legend. Have you guys heard did anyone tell you
Speaker 1: about the drain oh test? This is so scary. So
Speaker 1: this is a really popular like I'm going to call
Speaker 1: it method of divination because that's how we think about
Speaker 1: these things. And basically the woman peas in a bunch
Speaker 1: of drain oh and you mix it together and if
Speaker 1: it turns green, it's a girl, and if it's blue,
Speaker 1: it's a boy. And people do this and they should
Speaker 1: not do this. It seems such Yeah, it's like how
Speaker 1: a pregnant woman like combine urine with the harshest chemical
Speaker 1: and and let's stand over it and just breathe it
Speaker 1: in and create new new dangerous chemical compounds and then standardized.
Speaker 1: But it just shows that we like need these rituals
Speaker 1: and were we just want to know something about this
Speaker 1: infants future. So you know, it's not all horrible. It's
Speaker 1: just humans are fucking with happiness reveals and then every
Speaker 1: time you say yeah, and then everyone feels good. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say that would suck if sometimes they
Speaker 1: were a bummer they're like, this kid is gonna be
Speaker 1: a fucking bh you and just no explosions in dry field. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was going to say, every single thing that we've
Speaker 1: discussed is better than like the modern if you instead
Speaker 1: you're going to like shoot an explosive, yea, I mean
Speaker 1: not a lot of times. But you know, I think
Speaker 1: the current method of divination is usually like nineties something
Speaker 1: percent right, but it's not It's not a hundred. And
Speaker 1: I've known people who like had everything painted and ship
Speaker 1: based on what they thought was going to happen, and
Speaker 1: then the baby was not what they were. That's that's
Speaker 1: the universe letting you know, don't be so real. Give
Speaker 1: a ship, Yeah, don't be weird. What is something you
Speaker 1: think is overrated? Oh? Overrated? Going back to normal? Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is totally overrated. I'm not into this. They people
Speaker 1: want people, Hey, people want you to though. That's the like,
Speaker 1: you know, there's even I saw like the there's like
Speaker 1: materials that the administration and like the d n C
Speaker 1: here preparing to like paint this picture of like pretty
Speaker 1: pandemic life and how like we're getting back to it
Speaker 1: and you're I mean, you'd have to be you have
Speaker 1: to have your head so deep in the ground to
Speaker 1: not go through the last you know, fourteen months, sixteen
Speaker 1: months and just say like whoa, what about the hell
Speaker 1: world from before? Because we're getting a little bit of
Speaker 1: relief now, but what what is normal? And how how
Speaker 1: is that equitable for everyone? Yeah? Absolutely, it was like
Speaker 1: wait a second, I didn't I wasn't having a good
Speaker 1: time before. I don't want to go back to that.
Speaker 1: And also did we just go through this huge reset moment,
Speaker 1: this huge pause moment where we all kind of got
Speaker 1: to reassess what our values were to just be like
Speaker 1: oh yeah, going back to start school. It looks at
Speaker 1: the brunch scene like yeah, dude, now that nobody wants
Speaker 1: to go back to work, it's like, maybe maybe we
Speaker 1: need to reassess this system for you. What what has
Speaker 1: been sort of you're normal that you're not going back
Speaker 1: to personally, I mean, aside from I think a lot
Speaker 1: of the large like, as you say, a lot of
Speaker 1: people had time to assess their own priorities and things
Speaker 1: that may have been out of black or whatever. Has
Speaker 1: there been anything specific for you that you're kind of like, well, no,
Speaker 1: this is I've been changed in this way. Oh yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1: I pretty much like quit all my jobs and liquidated
Speaker 1: all of my like business stuff during like within the
Speaker 1: last six months, because I was like, wait a second,
Speaker 1: none of what I'm doing has is adding value to
Speaker 1: the world, and you know, it was all like all
Speaker 1: these hustle jobs so I can continue acting and doing comedy,
Speaker 1: and I realized like those were all taking over my
Speaker 1: life and I wasn't acting and doing comedy or it
Speaker 1: was like bits and pieces, but it was like that
Speaker 1: was my side gig, was acting in comedy. So I've
Speaker 1: kind of liquidated all of that in the past couple
Speaker 1: of months. And then I also am I've always been
Speaker 1: politically active. I'm Palestinian. We need to be politically active.
Speaker 1: That's just like you're born It' like you know, I
Speaker 1: feel like you're born African American and you're you're political
Speaker 1: because of your identity. So yeah, it's like I've always
Speaker 1: been political, but with everything going on right now, I'm
Speaker 1: just like there's no time to worry about using my
Speaker 1: voice to like how it's going to harm my career
Speaker 1: or affect me. Like I can't worry about my own
Speaker 1: self interest at this moment because there's just too much
Speaker 1: at stake in the world. So prior to that, that
Speaker 1: was something that was sort of part of your risk
Speaker 1: assessment or like calculus for how you're sort of navigating
Speaker 1: things or how whatever you say, because you seem, I mean,
Speaker 1: in your work pretty outspoken. So oh yeah, I did
Speaker 1: have a show called I Heart hum Us a little bit.
Speaker 1: I was like, uh, oh good, but you know that
Speaker 1: actually was like a super cheeky title and it was
Speaker 1: just kind of playing into the assumptions that everybody had.
Speaker 1: You know. I wrote that show with camal Bell and like,
Speaker 1: you know, it was it was definitely comedic, tragic comic,
Speaker 1: I would say, but it really played the assumption of
Speaker 1: like this is who you think we are. Well, it's like,
Speaker 1: let me just co opt that identity and like take
Speaker 1: it to the most ridiculous, you know, wearing like this cute,
Speaker 1: sexy little like camo tank top and like all right,
Speaker 1: this is what you want? Here you go. But you know,
Speaker 1: I was always political in my work, but definitely like
Speaker 1: I thought about everything I was saying in terms of
Speaker 1: like how is this going, Like is this the right
Speaker 1: time to talk about this? Is this the right setting
Speaker 1: to talk about this? And now I'm like you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's here, and now those are out, those are all
Speaker 1: out the window. It's like, it's the only way to
Speaker 1: change the world is like to actively engage, and it's
Speaker 1: you know, what, what world are we fighting for? Absolutely length?
Speaker 1: And what is something you think is underrated? Oh? This
Speaker 1: is exciting. So my mother in law moved in with us,
Speaker 1: and she's the one that bought that god damn canopy things,
Speaker 1: so you know, everybody's responsible for my frustrations. But one
Speaker 1: of the things that she has added in a beautiful
Speaker 1: way to this home is reasons candy, you guys, no reasons. Yes,
Speaker 1: they're sort of like if you put a tutsie roll
Speaker 1: inside of uh, inside of actual chocolate, like better chocolate,
Speaker 1: and those motherfucker's are good. And I don't like tutsie rolls.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm sort of like indifferent about tutsie rolls, but
Speaker 1: goddamn are reasons hitting the spot. And she keeps a
Speaker 1: jar full of them in the in the kitchen every day,
Speaker 1: So I'm Papa's loving what's happening here? Wow? R I
Speaker 1: E S E N. Yeah, okay, okay, yeah, I'm not
Speaker 1: big on tutsie rolls, but I do believe I've had
Speaker 1: like some of those, and the adding chocolate to the
Speaker 1: tutsie roll like it makes it helps you get through
Speaker 1: because I'm the same. Tutsie rolls just feel like fucking
Speaker 1: imitation chocolate. It just doesn't. That's like, I see what
Speaker 1: you're trying to do, tutsie roll, but it's not doing it.
Speaker 1: And I get there is a certain group of depraved
Speaker 1: people who will appreciate that. But I think the chocolate
Speaker 1: coating on the reason helps sort of cover the rest
Speaker 1: of the candy you're eating, so you do have at
Speaker 1: least you get that hit of chalk real chocolate that
Speaker 1: you power through the rest. It's a touch of class.
Speaker 1: It's just a little bit of class that you've added
Speaker 1: to this otherwise uh filthy little candy that you served me.
Speaker 1: But I like it. I like what's happening. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: cool that you that your mother in laws living with you. Guys,
Speaker 1: that's gonna become so helpful once you once you have
Speaker 1: this baby from the same people who brought us Werthers.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's the same German. Okay, that makes sense,
Speaker 1: not a joke. I feel like the bags are very
Speaker 1: uh the like writing seems similar, like the energy of
Speaker 1: it all. Yeah, because it's like this isn't for children. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is marketed towards this is marketed towards the mature.
Speaker 1: It's not they're they're not having like cartoons, cartoon owls
Speaker 1: and ship on the it's a it's all about a nice, strong,
Speaker 1: sturdy font and like some browns and yellows and yeah,
Speaker 1: it feels like if they saw awl like licking a
Speaker 1: reason they shoot it mounted above their Yeah, that's the reason.
Speaker 1: Logo is the commercial just stuff and just tacks of
Speaker 1: dart meat and sitting on a mantle. I love it,
Speaker 1: I feel I The one tutsie roll that I don't
Speaker 1: mind is the fruit flavored tutsie roll because and I
Speaker 1: think that's my issue with tutsie rolls is that they
Speaker 1: are fruit candies that are child like. I'm gonna I
Speaker 1: love Starburst. I love a fruity chewy candies like chocolate chewy.
Speaker 1: Yeah high choose exactly, but a chocolate Chewi doesn't work
Speaker 1: for me. But then every once in a while get
Speaker 1: the like lemon tutsie roll or the cherry I think
Speaker 1: there is has never had them. Wow, I think there's
Speaker 1: just I think I just got to like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: as a kid, I really was like rigid about the
Speaker 1: candy I ate because like I wasn't just all about
Speaker 1: the sugar. I was like I have really specific think
Speaker 1: tastes and the tutsie rolls. Like I remember as a kid,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you had like a bucket of
Speaker 1: your Halloween candy that just sort of sort of ebbed
Speaker 1: and flowed over the years because you'd get through that
Speaker 1: first week post Halloween and then you're sort of left
Speaker 1: with all the waist candy that you you weren't as into,
Speaker 1: and then the next year comes around you like add
Speaker 1: to it, and that was always just weird tutsie roll
Speaker 1: stuff and like weird chewy ship. Yeah, I love fruities.
Speaker 1: I I think you're your spot on with that, and
Speaker 1: I do. Also I had that bucket, but it wasn't
Speaker 1: It wasn't so much tutsie rolls as it was tutsie
Speaker 1: pops that that ended up being the leftover you like
Speaker 1: dumb dumbs. I did funk with dumb dumb. Certain flavors,
Speaker 1: you know, you a peanut colada, sour apple, that's the best,
Speaker 1: but then you get some weird ones like fucking great,
Speaker 1: and it's like, come on, dumb dumb. You know this
Speaker 1: is and what you do well, come on, come on,
Speaker 1: dumb dumb. The degree to which big banking and dentistry
Speaker 1: like propped up the dumb dumb industry for so was
Speaker 1: like that there's just something about the fact that you
Speaker 1: would get that when you were a kid that like
Speaker 1: really gave them a little What happened that I feel
Speaker 1: like worth investigating, Like were they lobbying like the banking
Speaker 1: associations to be like this is what you need to
Speaker 1: have in all your banks, this will be in all
Speaker 1: of your administrative buildings. Like that's a that's a fucking contract. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I feel like the Koch Brothers knew about like belly
Speaker 1: and dumb dumps, you know what I mean, Like they're
Speaker 1: there's some sinister ship happening with the dumb dumb community.
Speaker 1: You exactly. We need to look into the Spangler candy company.
Speaker 1: I'm saying to here that sounds evil. Koch Brothers had
Speaker 1: a part of my childhood. They made Dixie cups. Koch
Speaker 1: Brothers made Dixie cups. Oh yeah, and like brawny paper
Speaker 1: they're and all kinds of paper goods. Surprised what how
Speaker 1: much money you might be given the Coke bros. I
Speaker 1: guess that makes sense. I never knew how, and one
Speaker 1: of them is dead, so we got one more to go.
Speaker 1: But uh, I never knew how much the Coke I
Speaker 1: never knew how they got their money. But that makes sense.
Speaker 1: They weren't just born wealthy. They probably sold some ship.
Speaker 1: Oh no, they were born to Uh they're always born well,
Speaker 1: I said, just born addition, in addition to the oil
Speaker 1: wealth that they had from their fathers selling oil to
Speaker 1: the Nazis. Oh yeah, yeah, so they're evil legacy, evil
Speaker 1: through and through to an almost impressive degree. It's like
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's always says, Nazi need need oil to Yeah
Speaker 1: to Hans or tanks. You need gasoline too. All right,
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and we'll be right back.
Speaker 1: And we're back. And so the January six Commission, the
Speaker 1: attempt to figure out what what all went down when
Speaker 1: the capital was attacked, is moving forward. And the Republicans
Speaker 1: were basically like, if anybody fucking says anything, you're fine.
Speaker 1: The gang can't be or you can't even be friends
Speaker 1: with us anymore. That's yeah, that's party does that's how
Speaker 1: he controls the party. He uh, you know Liz Cheney,
Speaker 1: everyone's saying is she's gonna do it. She was one
Speaker 1: of the two republic lookings to vote for the commission,
Speaker 1: along with Adam Kinzinger and Kevin McCarthy. His first thing
Speaker 1: was just saying, like, body, except this, you will have
Speaker 1: all of your committee assignments taken away, which will render
Speaker 1: you fucking useless. And that's a pretty big threat. But
Speaker 1: Pelosi Stilley not for li Shaney because she she's like,
Speaker 1: I'm already dead, motherfucker. You think you can kill me more?
Speaker 1: What is already dead? Motherfucker? From my bills? Like she's
Speaker 1: She's expressed her in Kinsinger how much more they've had
Speaker 1: to spend on their personal security as a result of
Speaker 1: acknowledging reality and what you know, once Pelosi named her
Speaker 1: to the committee, said quote, what happened on Janrary six
Speaker 1: can never happen again. Those who are responsible for the
Speaker 1: attack need to be held accountable, and this is like
Speaker 1: committee will fulfill that responsibility in a professional, expeditious, and
Speaker 1: non partisan manner. Now that got a lot of Republicans
Speaker 1: upset because they were saying, like, well, it lights out
Speaker 1: for you. But she's already it seems like she feels
Speaker 1: like she's probably not gonna make it past three anyway,
Speaker 1: um in Wyoming. So for her, she's like, Okay, watch
Speaker 1: me do, watch me do this on the way out.
Speaker 1: And Adam Kinzinger, we still don't know if he's going
Speaker 1: to join or not. But he's again another person who
Speaker 1: made the mistake of acknowledging what happened and saying that
Speaker 1: is fucking not good. And maybe we do need to actually,
Speaker 1: you know, figure out who was involved so they can
Speaker 1: be you know, drug out into the sunlight. And when
Speaker 1: he was asked whether or not he was worried about
Speaker 1: McCarthy's threats, he said, who gives a ship? And then
Speaker 1: I said, he goes on to say, when you've got
Speaker 1: people who say crazy stuff and you're not gonna make
Speaker 1: and you're not gonna make that threat, but you make
Speaker 1: that threat to truth tellers, you've lost any credibility. I
Speaker 1: did not understand that sentence at all, like you have
Speaker 1: that And I was just like, like you could have
Speaker 1: stopped because that, but you make that threat to truth. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like these are a public and he's in some
Speaker 1: world like some far off. It makes sense to someone, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll see if we get actual results from this.
Speaker 1: But it's fun drama. And also just shout out to
Speaker 1: Liz Cheney. I know her family is probably going through
Speaker 1: it right now with the past unkey don the whole,
Speaker 1: the horrible No, but they're hell bound connection. Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: like something that's remarkably bonding about doing work crimes together,
Speaker 1: especially when like you're doing work crimes that define an
Speaker 1: entire century. So shout out to them. Let's talk about
Speaker 1: police real quick. There's a new trend in being proudly
Speaker 1: belligerent in the world of police. So in April, young
Speaker 1: black man was having a mental health episode in a
Speaker 1: Walmart and within a minute of showing up, the police
Speaker 1: tased shot and then chased him again until he was dead. Uh,
Speaker 1: this is uh textbookcase where a mental health specialist, a
Speaker 1: social worker, like literally anything else would have been better
Speaker 1: than an armed police officer, like a fucking hockey team,
Speaker 1: like anything you send anyone besides the police. But so
Speaker 1: people are protesting, and yesterday morning, while people were protesting,
Speaker 1: you know the police force that basically murdered him, an
Speaker 1: officer walked up and told them they had to move
Speaker 1: their side, and when they tried to have a conversation
Speaker 1: with the cop, he took out his phone and started
Speaker 1: playing Taylor Swift, like put his phone in his breast
Speaker 1: pocket and started playing Taylor Taylor Swift really loud, so
Speaker 1: you couldn't really hear him or the people trying to
Speaker 1: talk to him. And the activists were like kind of confused.
Speaker 1: They were like, yeah, it was are we having a
Speaker 1: dance party? What happening? And right, yeah, the sergeant replied
Speaker 1: the all all he knew was they wouldn't be able
Speaker 1: to post their video to YouTube because there would be
Speaker 1: copyright claim and like just the like fucking grin on
Speaker 1: his face as he was doing this, and just like
Speaker 1: how clever he thought it was and probably wasn't his idea.
Speaker 1: It's probably like his teen daughter or something like yeah, alright,
Speaker 1: that's not even completely true though. I was, well at
Speaker 1: least because when I was seeing that video on Twitter,
Speaker 1: I think some people were saying that all the YouTube
Speaker 1: channel would have to do is debonatize that particular video
Speaker 1: and it would be okay, because it's like they're uploading
Speaker 1: like the clean track to their video. That's edited in,
Speaker 1: so the sweepers work a little bit differently, those copyright
Speaker 1: sweepers that go on the internet to figure out if
Speaker 1: you're running a foul But it's the great irony of
Speaker 1: watching like intellectual property copyright law again come to the
Speaker 1: defense of police brutality in this like weird way. You're like,
Speaker 1: it's also dark and he had it ready to he
Speaker 1: was just like right there, like just it was he
Speaker 1: was ready to go. Like it was like they can
Speaker 1: imagine just before they were all, I guess arriving to
Speaker 1: go beat people up or kill people they had They're like, okay,
Speaker 1: let's see how you didn't do Taylor Swift. Okay, what
Speaker 1: do you have? You have a little nil nozex or whatever,
Speaker 1: like they're all all have their music ready. Yeah Taylor Swift, though,
Speaker 1: I'm not little not zax. Because you know how the
Speaker 1: white supremises love some Taylors. That's a good point. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: not saying she's she's what's premises, just saying right, well,
Speaker 1: they were mad though some Taylor. But when she was like,
Speaker 1: I'm not with that, and they're like, oh yeah, they
Speaker 1: were upset. You're you being not really unequivocal just gave
Speaker 1: us the gray area to believe you were one of
Speaker 1: our great artists. It is like the the idea is
Speaker 1: such a like email forward that gets sent to your
Speaker 1: dad at work type fucking like half asked, not true
Speaker 1: idea that is just like that is the culture of
Speaker 1: these police forces, and like that is what they're going
Speaker 1: to put energy into, Like people, the idea that people
Speaker 1: are putting tampons in their fucking iced tea or whatever,
Speaker 1: or like the fact that you can just like play
Speaker 1: YouTube song and it'll get the evidence of you abusing
Speaker 1: and killing people taken down. It's just like it's just
Speaker 1: so stupid and half asked, and that's all like that's
Speaker 1: the standard they're held too, and they would rather just
Speaker 1: be belligerent and just spite the people who are criticizing them,
Speaker 1: rather than even acknowledge that there's a problem in the
Speaker 1: first place. I think that would because if they acknowledge
Speaker 1: anything would be that you know that the timer could
Speaker 1: end up ticking down to when they be more people
Speaker 1: like okay, right, so this is an obsolute way of
Speaker 1: dealing with things. We're gonna have to switch it up
Speaker 1: because we just have a group of goons who you know,
Speaker 1: learn all their new clever ways of brutalizing people with
Speaker 1: TikTok videos, like hey, use this song and it can't
Speaker 1: get uploaded and they're like, oh cool. Pretty soon, I
Speaker 1: bet you they're gonna be wearing like uniforms that are
Speaker 1: made out of like material that like cameras like like
Speaker 1: have trouble capturing and ship because it's just like the
Speaker 1: same like this is. I can only see where this
Speaker 1: goes further, right if it if this is one way
Speaker 1: to obscure or to hide their misdeeds, then I'm sure
Speaker 1: there'll be in further escalation aside from what we already have.
Speaker 1: Like we see how cops will lift the hoods of
Speaker 1: their cars to block dash cams and things like them, Like,
Speaker 1: well it's on, but I just had to hood up
Speaker 1: to not capture anything. Yeah. But that's the interesting thing
Speaker 1: is like he was so confident that the video, that
Speaker 1: the song would be able to protect him, like this
Speaker 1: tillers some shield that Like he started to show off
Speaker 1: his badge and name and stuff like he's like, you
Speaker 1: guys can take that down because I'm going to be
Speaker 1: protected by guess there's some ship called Daily Motion, right,
Speaker 1: There's so many. So there's so many other websites that
Speaker 1: Facebook and literally anywhere people want to. Right, let's talk
Speaker 1: about the Supreme Court real quick, because as mentioned and
Speaker 1: and there's like a lot of I'm seeing on like
Speaker 1: anywhere from the center to the right, people being like, well,
Speaker 1: these are not as big a deal as you think,
Speaker 1: but like when you like thinking about behavioral engineering type
Speaker 1: ship and thinking about like corporations and how you get
Speaker 1: corporations to do anything, and how just what we know
Speaker 1: about how corporations behave these are major rulings. So first
Speaker 1: there was a ruling where the Supreme Court found the
Speaker 1: people who suffered under child slavery could not sue American
Speaker 1: corporations who profited from the child slavery. So nest Lee's
Speaker 1: and a lot of chocolate companies for long periods of
Speaker 1: their history, we're profiting off of child slavery. You know,
Speaker 1: they weren't saying like there wasn't a nest Lee corporate
Speaker 1: meeting where they said go do child slavery. Instead, they
Speaker 1: were just like, you know, we like when labor costs
Speaker 1: are near zero, and you know, they let the dirty
Speaker 1: work be done in other countries. And that's the Supreme courts,
Speaker 1: like they technically didn't say it in America, so we
Speaker 1: have to let them go. Like that's been the biggest
Speaker 1: trend in the Supreme Court over the past twenty years.
Speaker 1: Is just like absolutely letting corporations get away with fucking anything.
Speaker 1: And you're just like, like they are like the thing
Speaker 1: that most needs to be protected in the in this
Speaker 1: country as opposed to the single most powerful actor in
Speaker 1: the United States. Yeah, and like I'm looking. I'm looking
Speaker 1: here too, and it you know, it's it's wild. We
Speaker 1: have a road here in l A called Caesar Chevis, right,
Speaker 1: We name an entire road after a man who did
Speaker 1: so much for so many people, And the Supreme Court
Speaker 1: ruled that a California regulation, which allows union organizers to
Speaker 1: recruit agricultural workers at their workplace, violated the constitutional rights.
Speaker 1: So their employee, like it, um did so much work
Speaker 1: that this man did and you still like having the
Speaker 1: nerve to walk on his street here in California. Is
Speaker 1: is so wild How we shipped on people doing real change.
Speaker 1: We shipped on the actual worker, and we shipped on
Speaker 1: people wanted to form unions to protect themselves at the
Speaker 1: expense of who. Like that's That's what I'm not understanding,
Speaker 1: Like nobody's gonna not be rich anymore, Like they're still
Speaker 1: gonna be rich. I'm all for people having their money.
Speaker 1: People have your money. I don't care. Have you millions,
Speaker 1: have you billions? I don't give a ship. Like it's
Speaker 1: not going to change. I get that, But at the
Speaker 1: expense of people who are barely making it, who do
Speaker 1: real things for change, who you take away like something
Speaker 1: that people fault and died for for a corporation that's
Speaker 1: here today maybe gone tomorrow is so insane to me,
Speaker 1: is so infuriating to me as well. Yeah, what is
Speaker 1: the constitutional right being violated here? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like the ruling came about because corporations were like, these
Speaker 1: unions are coming on to our land that we own
Speaker 1: and contacting our workers. It's like a complete bullshit technicality
Speaker 1: trespassing basically. But yeah, basically the first one, the slavery one,
Speaker 1: was like an eight to one ruling. This one is
Speaker 1: six six to three, with the three liberal justices like
Speaker 1: being the ones who held out. But Jack, are you
Speaker 1: saying that some liberal people like allowed slate, they still
Speaker 1: want slavery to go like liberals? But oh, man, I
Speaker 1: gotta go, I'll talk to you all. I mean, it's fine.
Speaker 1: Like Obama, who's like number one liberal, like a viral
Speaker 1: Lifetime always said like that the arc of the universe
Speaker 1: bends towards justice, like he took that Martin Luther King Jr. Quote.
Speaker 1: But I feel like we're also seeing that the arc
Speaker 1: of the universe in America bends too towards like erasure
Speaker 1: of the work done by left wing and like, you know,
Speaker 1: community organizers, says our Chovas. Like when I was growing up,
Speaker 1: I was like, you mean, Julio, says our chat As,
Speaker 1: the boxer. I didn't know who the funk that was,
Speaker 1: like growing up in a public education in Ohio, And
Speaker 1: like mar Luther King Jr. Like all of the community
Speaker 1: building and like workersn't poor rights work that he did
Speaker 1: gets erased and it just turns into a message of
Speaker 1: like being the value of being color blind. And it's
Speaker 1: just like yeah, man, that and then Obama, who starts
Speaker 1: out as a community organizer, becomes like the person who
Speaker 1: bails out Wall Street. Yeah, it's just live long enough
Speaker 1: to see yourself becoming the villain. I guess. Yeah. Yeah. Also,
Speaker 1: did I call him Caesar Chaves earlier, and I says,
Speaker 1: are I'm sure I might have too, but it's okay,
Speaker 1: you know what, we blame education, education and cancel my
Speaker 1: history teach America America. I believe that my lesson on,
Speaker 1: saysar Shops was just the name Caesar shov Is that's it,
Speaker 1: you know, like that's that's all the information you get
Speaker 1: is like through it was a man whose name we mispronounced.
Speaker 1: There you guys a day, that's it? Yeah? Yeah? Do
Speaker 1: you guys think that what what would a class war
Speaker 1: look like to you all? Like I I have trouble
Speaker 1: because you know, it seems like we we may be
Speaker 1: heading toward towards that. Maybe I don't know. I don't
Speaker 1: even know how it would look though, because I feel
Speaker 1: so unpowerful that like it feels like it feels like
Speaker 1: taking a knife to a buzuka fight. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I think it will look like last year. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think it'll have to look like, you know, the community
Speaker 1: organizing that happened last year, but like ramped up, and
Speaker 1: I don't know, I think it'll have to be like
Speaker 1: something that starts and then like builds up a momentum
Speaker 1: of its own. Because unions have been so defanged and
Speaker 1: like the actual or you know, organizations that organized people
Speaker 1: have been so just knee captain America that like there's
Speaker 1: not I don't I don't know like how a planned
Speaker 1: out thing happens. I think it's going to have to
Speaker 1: be people reach a breaking point and like come together.
Speaker 1: But I don't know, man, that the Supreme Court is
Speaker 1: just so far to the right that I don't know,
Speaker 1: like what, Like I guess there's also generational stuff happening
Speaker 1: where like now even young Republicans or socialists. So like,
Speaker 1: eventually maybe once these this is the second time I've
Speaker 1: been like once these baby boomers mercifully die off in
Speaker 1: the past week. But you know once they once they
Speaker 1: go away, maybe things will start to, I don't know,
Speaker 1: resemble move move in a different direction. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: like we're literally talking about child slavery here, and we're
Speaker 1: literally talking about not giving people their rights to care
Speaker 1: about themselves. Like this is what we're talking in. The
Speaker 1: Supreme Court is ruling against these things, and it's just
Speaker 1: like it's two thousand twenty one, and you would think
Speaker 1: the better part of us as a humanity would realize
Speaker 1: even if you're a Republican or Tim mccry or liberal conservative,
Speaker 1: whatever it is that like, children shouldn't be children shouldn't
Speaker 1: be slaves, they shouldn't be working under bad conditions, they
Speaker 1: shouldn't be working at all, you know, and for a
Speaker 1: party that cares so much about life and pro life
Speaker 1: and all these things, it's, you know, it's it's so cliche,
Speaker 1: but it's so true that they care about you know,
Speaker 1: life up until they pop out of their moms and
Speaker 1: you know, in terms of the real world, and it's
Speaker 1: like a two fingers motherfucker, Like, you know, it's so wild,
Speaker 1: it's so wild. I don't, yeah, I mean, so the
Speaker 1: child slavery thing, like is the thing that it's taken
Speaker 1: away is the ability for them to sue corporations. And
Speaker 1: corporations are inherently like designed to be institutions that create
Speaker 1: value for their shareholders. So it is their job to
Speaker 1: use whatever the cheapest form of like the system is
Speaker 1: designed to take advantage of child slavery and foreign markets.
Speaker 1: And then just to like give a little more detail
Speaker 1: on the unionizing thing, Like what unions were able to
Speaker 1: do was come to farms to like organize people because
Speaker 1: that was the only place that you could actually reach
Speaker 1: workers because these corporations would bust people in from off
Speaker 1: location and you couldn't like reach them through the newspaper
Speaker 1: a lot of times because maybe they didn't speak English,
Speaker 1: you know, all sorts of institutional reasons that they were
Speaker 1: hard to organize. So you needed to be able to
Speaker 1: come onto the farms to actually reach the workers and
Speaker 1: tell them what their rights were. And this is going
Speaker 1: to make it so that corporations once again, like they
Speaker 1: just no longer need to allow that to happen. So
Speaker 1: it once again becomes like their duty as like shareholder
Speaker 1: value creators to just can treat people like ship Like
Speaker 1: that is the bottom line of what of what these
Speaker 1: rulings mean. The language of law, you know how like
Speaker 1: like legally's for lack of a better term, I feel
Speaker 1: like the language of the law here in in the
Speaker 1: United States does a lot to distance you from the
Speaker 1: human reality of things. Like it is as simple as
Speaker 1: your your saying, da keys that it's it's child slavery,
Speaker 1: it's child slavery. What kind of decision are you going
Speaker 1: to make a decision that perpetuates child slavery? But then
Speaker 1: when you get into a long, days, long legal argument
Speaker 1: with the that's sort of you know, the language of
Speaker 1: you know, I can't even speak it because I'm just
Speaker 1: a dumb comedian, but like it's all of that high salutint,
Speaker 1: you know, dispassionate, non humanitarian language goes a long way
Speaker 1: to going like, well, of course we should give more
Speaker 1: rights to two corporations because you know, their corporations are
Speaker 1: bigger than us, so deserve better rights or whatever the
Speaker 1: fun is going on in their head. It's just it's
Speaker 1: it's so anti social, it's so anti social. Yeah, if
Speaker 1: you made it, like whatever the fucking logic is the
Speaker 1: Supreme Court is using. If you made it so that
Speaker 1: these people could come back and sue a company after
Speaker 1: they profited it off of like treating them or you know,
Speaker 1: using their slave labor, then the corporation is going to
Speaker 1: spend a shipload of money to make sure that ship
Speaker 1: doesn't happen anymore. And now instead they're going to spend
Speaker 1: a shipload of money just ignoring that problem. So instead
Speaker 1: of using like American capitalism for good, we've just sort
Speaker 1: of passed the book. All right, let's take a quick
Speaker 1: break and we'll come back and talk Nielsen ratings. Oh, yes, sir,
Speaker 1: and we're back and let's do it. A little quick
Speaker 1: hit of good news. The Fiser and Maderna vaccines, uh
Speaker 1: may last a long time, longer than we initially anticipated.
Speaker 1: So if you're one of these people who was waiting
Speaker 1: for the Liddy version, well, if there's a lit version
Speaker 1: was lost, better look, hey, you funck with get to
Speaker 1: get these m R and A vaccines. The studies are
Speaker 1: now showing that you may not need booster shots, that
Speaker 1: this the efficacy of them may last for a really
Speaker 1: long time. So I just want to read this one bit.
Speaker 1: Findings add to growing evidence that most people immunize with
Speaker 1: the MR and A vaccines, so that would be Fiser
Speaker 1: and Maderna may not need boosters so long as the
Speaker 1: virus and its variants do not evolve much beyond their
Speaker 1: current forms, which makes sense, which isn't guaranteed because life.
Speaker 1: But even better news, people who recovered from COVID nineteen
Speaker 1: before being vaccinated may not need boosters even if the
Speaker 1: virus does make a significant transformation. So they're saying, if
Speaker 1: you are someone who recovered from COVID and you got vaccinated,
Speaker 1: you're looking at even better outcomes for people who weren't
Speaker 1: infected and just got vaccinated. That's because they've been looking
Speaker 1: at sort of immune cells, and they say they recognize
Speaker 1: that the virus lie quiescent in the bone marrow for
Speaker 1: at least eight months after infection, and so called memory
Speaker 1: B cells continue to mature and strengthen for at least
Speaker 1: a year after infection. Based on those findings, researchers suggested
Speaker 1: that immunity might last for years, possibly a lifetime, and
Speaker 1: people who are infected and later vaccinated. But how long
Speaker 1: does the magnetism last is my question. It depends on
Speaker 1: how let's say, skeptical about the Yeah, yeah, yeah TV TV.
Speaker 1: They're more how long does Bill Bill Gates get to
Speaker 1: listen to my thoughts? Bro? Sorry, he's already been listening
Speaker 1: to them. Spoiler alert spoiler on all the surveillance state stuff.
Speaker 1: It's all it's all happening at your phone. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: unfortunately you've got the J and J might not be
Speaker 1: as durable damn in the long term. What it So,
Speaker 1: they obviously feel effective for the variance we have. Now
Speaker 1: it's just more like long long view saying if we're
Speaker 1: dealing with this kind of COVID, Yeah, it turns out
Speaker 1: the news is very promising. That's great. I just feel
Speaker 1: bad for J and J. Did you get Jane? No,
Speaker 1: you're which one? Did you get Jack McKay feiser, Oh
Speaker 1: that's right, of course, how yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It
Speaker 1: just feels like the J the people who got jan J,
Speaker 1: like I have a friend who got it, and then
Speaker 1: the next day they were like, we're not giving this
Speaker 1: out anymore and like pulled it off the market for
Speaker 1: like a week, and then now they're like, yeah, you're
Speaker 1: gonna need another one of these bad boys. Sorry. It's
Speaker 1: just like all it felt like cutting corners from the
Speaker 1: start because you only had to get one and it
Speaker 1: was like slightly lower, and now it's just like NonStop. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But I mean not to say this isn't to say
Speaker 1: that J and J is useless. It's just because, of course,
Speaker 1: because it's not an m r and A vaccine, it's
Speaker 1: just operating differently. And so the long view is that
Speaker 1: and that was always the case. That's why the efficacy
Speaker 1: rates were higher for the m RNA vaccines than they
Speaker 1: were and you could probably get that other vaccine, right,
Speaker 1: It's not like you get the J J and you
Speaker 1: can't get I don't know that would be super fucked up,
Speaker 1: or like, hey man, it's like you're trying to download
Speaker 1: a Windows application onto a Maco West computer. Right, that's
Speaker 1: and it's not gonna happen. But you can't double up
Speaker 1: on my You can't just like keep getting vaccines until
Speaker 1: you get the one you want, right, Like, no, no,
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm talking long term, you know, eventually eventually.
Speaker 1: Last week, I just want like I didn't even get sick.
Speaker 1: Could we go hard on like a couple modernism? Like
Speaker 1: just do a you know, tasting menu. Can we can
Speaker 1: we do like a swirl like when you or a
Speaker 1: graveyard soda? You know the sodas in one. I got Astras, Anaca, fire,
Speaker 1: bion tech, Maderna, J and J, A couple of weird
Speaker 1: ones I didn't even hear. But I don't really know
Speaker 1: how to pronoun on something, but I got him. The
Speaker 1: Rick Carlisle is what I think of with the graveyard
Speaker 1: that he as a as a grown man in his forties,
Speaker 1: still when he goes to a restaurant orders a graveyard.
Speaker 1: How many times a year does that happen? Probably zero?
Speaker 1: Actually like four servers. Yeah, I'm sorry, sir, what, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're not at a pool concession. Stand you understand that, right,
Speaker 1: I said, I know what I want. Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: let's talk about this UFO report. I mean, in some
Speaker 1: ways it's uneventful. They didn't explain ship. They explained one
Speaker 1: of the I think you know it was over a
Speaker 1: hundred cases that they were looking at, explained one as
Speaker 1: a deflating weather balloon. All the rest were not explained,
Speaker 1: and they specified they called out twenty one reports of
Speaker 1: eighteen episodes that have no known explanation, like, based on
Speaker 1: what they saw, they can't be explained. But then they
Speaker 1: do go out of their way to say that, like,
Speaker 1: we definitely need more data. You know, some of the
Speaker 1: targeting cameras that were used are hard to read. They're
Speaker 1: not things that were used to seeing. So it's not
Speaker 1: the bombshell that I feel like UFO and enthusiasts were
Speaker 1: hoping for. But you know, they did give it the
Speaker 1: old College try for a couple of months, and they
Speaker 1: weren't able to explain really anything. So it's a total
Speaker 1: of a hundred and forty three reports gathered since two
Speaker 1: thousand four remain unexplained. The assumption among the skeptics. Seems
Speaker 1: to be that there is some motivation for all of
Speaker 1: these reports to start popping up, popping up at the
Speaker 1: same time, like the US is so far and above
Speaker 1: enemy weapon capabilities that they need to create like a
Speaker 1: boogeyman to motivate increased like weapons spending. Finally, without going
Speaker 1: to that's US. That's there's like some massive pushbacks on
Speaker 1: like weapons spending as of right now. Yeah, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: a skeptic enough in how the foreign policy works in
Speaker 1: this country, you know, like we don't need aliens to
Speaker 1: keep them on, Like that's I don't. I don't think
Speaker 1: that's a necessary part of it, But go ahead, there's
Speaker 1: I I just they still it's the number of them,
Speaker 1: the similarity between them, and the fact that many of
Speaker 1: them have both eyewitness testimony the weapons targeting cameras and radar.
Speaker 1: It's like that. That was the thing from the sixty
Speaker 1: minutes report that like sticks with me is that they
Speaker 1: kept seeing this phenomenon on radar. They scrambled the jets
Speaker 1: out to go look at it, and then with their
Speaker 1: eyes the fighter jet pilots saw this inexplicable like white
Speaker 1: tic tac that was like circling them. So for that one,
Speaker 1: it has to be a an explanation where the radar
Speaker 1: caused them to scramble these fighter jets, and the fighter
Speaker 1: jet happened to be flown by two fighter pilots who
Speaker 1: wanted to create this hoax around like UFOs. So I mean,
Speaker 1: it's possible, for sure, probably more possible than alien life
Speaker 1: forms like living amongst us, but I don't know it
Speaker 1: is at least not as open and shut as like
Speaker 1: the skeptics. Rebuttals that I find least convincing are like
Speaker 1: one off things where it's like it's just a weather
Speaker 1: balloon scene through this one camera. It's like, yeah, but
Speaker 1: it was seen by radar a camera and then instance
Speaker 1: that one instance. But it's also like the similarity between them.
Speaker 1: Are we saying that because one person said tic tac
Speaker 1: or there's this one video of the tic tac shaped
Speaker 1: thing that that's then influencing people. And then Chelsea from
Speaker 1: your kind of the world of your podcast, I guess
Speaker 1: I find that just as interesting, like what about our
Speaker 1: culture changed from wanting to believe in flying? So like
Speaker 1: if we're to assume that this is all bullshit or
Speaker 1: like a figment of the human imagination. Then what about
Speaker 1: our imagination changed so that we wanted to be a
Speaker 1: tic tac as opposed to like a flying saucer. I
Speaker 1: guess I couldn't answer that that maybe that has some
Speaker 1: like I mean, the book I read that one of
Speaker 1: the books I read that really influenced the show is
Speaker 1: actually Carl Young, which okay, yeah, just whatever, problematic person,
Speaker 1: but this and also really god, just a very interesting person.
Speaker 1: But he wrote a book about kind of like the
Speaker 1: psychology of the UFO hysteria. I'm not I have no
Speaker 1: skin in this game in terms of our aliens real
Speaker 1: or not. We're talking about this before. But you know,
Speaker 1: in an ever expanding infinite universe, I certainly have no
Speaker 1: problem imagining that we are not alone. And that's about
Speaker 1: as far as I go into having like a real opinion.
Speaker 1: But he was writing about the forties, and that was
Speaker 1: the first time that I mean, these sightings was popping
Speaker 1: up all the time, all of a sudden, like boom
Speaker 1: boom boom boom boom all over the country. And it
Speaker 1: was right around the time that we were really fearing
Speaker 1: like a Nazi invasion, right, we were really fearing sort
Speaker 1: of an invasion from without coming to the country that
Speaker 1: we hadn't experienced. So it's just you can kind of
Speaker 1: I don't know what would be now, like what the
Speaker 1: reason would be now, except that you know, Tom DeLong
Speaker 1: really led the charge and finally got us to believe
Speaker 1: in aliens. Isn't that fucking weird that Tom DeLong just
Speaker 1: like he lived his truth because I think about being,
Speaker 1: you know, a ten year old kid listening to Blake
Speaker 1: one and two or however old and listening to that
Speaker 1: Aliens is it exists song, and it's such a great
Speaker 1: anthem of a conspiracy theorists sort of being like, I
Speaker 1: don't want to believe this, but I think that it
Speaker 1: might be true. I don't know. I grew up with
Speaker 1: like my dad speaking of shapes of UFOs. My dad
Speaker 1: is somebody who was like, has a million sort of
Speaker 1: whopper tails, you know, he can't really tell they're true.
Speaker 1: But this actually came up the other day because I
Speaker 1: had to attend a wedding with both my biological mother
Speaker 1: and that side of my family and my biological father
Speaker 1: and that side of family, which is not like ideal,
Speaker 1: but um, they were able to have a nice conversation
Speaker 1: about my dad this story he has of a UFO encounter,
Speaker 1: which was confirmed by her, and she always believed it
Speaker 1: because he came back and he was so scared, like
Speaker 1: shaking and really really freaked out. So he was like
Speaker 1: driving his truck out to get beer after some party
Speaker 1: and he was with his friend jar Shaw, who calls
Speaker 1: me Sheila and will not meet me. And I have
Speaker 1: never met my dad's best friend. And it's the whole thing,
Speaker 1: but he just calls me Sheila. It's it's he just
Speaker 1: it's like become a joke now, like he's shy, but
Speaker 1: now it's been thirty years, so it's just a joke.
Speaker 1: Now this is your you know, you can cut this
Speaker 1: part out, jar Shaw. It's just such a good name. Yeah,
Speaker 1: some therapy is like a combination. No, it's a last name.
Speaker 1: It's Yeah. So they're driving their truck in through the
Speaker 1: woods outside Olympia and they hit something just boom and
Speaker 1: you know, slam on the brakes and they get out
Speaker 1: and see this orb, like a silver orb, and it
Speaker 1: just suddenly like rises up and just shoots off into
Speaker 1: the woods. That's what they said they saw, right, And
Speaker 1: that's a story I was told my whole life growing up,
Speaker 1: you know, and so I probably didn't happen, you know,
Speaker 1: like it sounds crazy, but there's like, you know, there's
Speaker 1: two people who say it happened, probably too drunk people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's it's a weird story. Friends who
Speaker 1: got each other's backs, Like, oh yeah, yeah, you gotta
Speaker 1: get my back. Man. Let's say this orb. I will
Speaker 1: never know the truth. But you know that is like
Speaker 1: woven in the fabric of my d n A is
Speaker 1: like this story and other alien types of stories. And
Speaker 1: I just have no idea. But I think, you know,
Speaker 1: this circular thing is interesting because that's not something I've
Speaker 1: heard a lot about it, Like it seems like a
Speaker 1: what like men in black scenario or something like that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't. I don't have a ton of thoughts.
Speaker 1: The only thing that we like to really disprove is
Speaker 1: that like reptilian aliens bred with humans to create like
Speaker 1: pedophile elites. You know, like we don't want to think
Speaker 1: we don't. That's what we're trying to kind of deep on.
Speaker 1: But otherwise, yeah, they blank sideways, and they blank sideways.
Speaker 1: Here's a video of it. Blink two sets of eyes, yeah,
Speaker 1: one of them, Yeah, two sets of eyelids. But you know,
Speaker 1: so I am scared of aliens. I don't really want
Speaker 1: to deal with it. It's definitely one of my biggest fears,
Speaker 1: which I don't really know why I watched all Remember
Speaker 1: like Fox Caught on tape, you guys, I know, like
Speaker 1: UFOs caught on tape. It was such a huge thing
Speaker 1: in the nineties too, And I don't know, I want
Speaker 1: to do a whole episode that that traces this so
Speaker 1: get back. I wonder what it offers people, like sort
Speaker 1: of philosophically for those that are believers, and what is
Speaker 1: sort of anathema to the people who are like really
Speaker 1: aggressive about denying any other life existing out in the
Speaker 1: universe at all, or the idea that we could be
Speaker 1: so ignorant about our own planet or life on this
Speaker 1: planet that it's just like protecting ourselves, like that's we
Speaker 1: know everything there is to know. We know everything is
Speaker 1: to know. It's like both are terrifying, right, like the
Speaker 1: existence or non existence, because if it's non existence, we're
Speaker 1: just floating in an infinite darkness with like no hope, right,
Speaker 1: But if it's like they're aliens, that might be scary,
Speaker 1: but it's kind of like the Illuminati, Right, It's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe there's something up here that even if they're nefarious,
Speaker 1: it shows me that there's like something controlling the chaos.
Speaker 1: You know. I think so much stuff just comes back
Speaker 1: to like the anxiety of of not knowing and the
Speaker 1: anxiety of death and all of those sort of things,
Speaker 1: and people to go in different directions depending on how
Speaker 1: they're raised, and uh so we get this battle. I
Speaker 1: never really butt into it growing up. I wasn't even
Speaker 1: really interested in like time life stuff. I just like
Speaker 1: put that all in the category of like I was
Speaker 1: more interested in, like like the explanation for ancient aliens
Speaker 1: being like inherent white supremacy and like that. They're just like, well,
Speaker 1: they couldn't have built these massive pyramids because they weren't white.
Speaker 1: And it's like, no, there were civilizations that we just
Speaker 1: wiped out that you are giving like way too short
Speaker 1: credit for this like space of sightings and videos and
Speaker 1: like military I don't know, there's just like a a
Speaker 1: sense that you hear among fighter pilots and you know,
Speaker 1: who knows if they have their own motivation, but like
Speaker 1: this this particular spate just doesn't like the no explanation
Speaker 1: has like quite sat right with me to this point.
Speaker 1: And usually and I'm like looking at history or like
Speaker 1: a story this much, I'm able to come up with
Speaker 1: like a working model of the event that fits within
Speaker 1: the version of the universe that like my brain has
Speaker 1: formed in the background, and like this one, just like
Speaker 1: it still feels very unsettled to me. So that's why
Speaker 1: I that's just like how my brain works. I'm like
Speaker 1: very interested in it until I can like kind of
Speaker 1: uh explain it. I jumped straight to bringing out the
Speaker 1: welcome wagon for the extraterrestrials. Yeah, I mean, I'm just like,
Speaker 1: spare me, please, ignorant, right. That worked well for they,
Speaker 1: That worked well for the the revelers in Independence days. Yeah.
Speaker 1: At the first Interstate Bank building in downtown, Man, they're
Speaker 1: opening the doors. It's like, I mean, I think you're
Speaker 1: I think the way you're doing it, Jack is good.
Speaker 1: It's like, let's just we don't know, we don't know,
Speaker 1: we just don't know. Not it's a great like place
Speaker 1: to sit in, you know sometimes like we don't know.
Speaker 1: And so that opens up because if you say they're
Speaker 1: not real or they are real, then you're gonna be
Speaker 1: processing all the data through your confirmation bias, so you're
Speaker 1: gonna see all this evidence in one way where it's
Speaker 1: like if you don't know, then you can like you
Speaker 1: just like observe it and eventually maybe come to a conclusion.
Speaker 1: But I just don't think until we see if, until
Speaker 1: we have any definitive proof, how we're going to to
Speaker 1: say I don't know yes or no. Yeah, Like this
Speaker 1: is like as much as like I don't believe in ghosts,
Speaker 1: I really didn't believe in UFOs prior to this whole
Speaker 1: story and like doing research into it. So it's I
Speaker 1: feel very stupid, like it doesn't sit right with me
Speaker 1: that I like, I am open to it. But that's
Speaker 1: where I'm at. Have you been to Roswell before the town? No,
Speaker 1: I'm like not that I know. I drove through though
Speaker 1: on like a road trip and went there and it
Speaker 1: is just the tackiest, most fantastic town. It's just like
Speaker 1: is not The town's not doing well and they're completely
Speaker 1: subsisting on like alien plastic alien toys made in China.
Speaker 1: That's just how they're getting by. But the museum is
Speaker 1: very fun. I will give a museum that I like
Speaker 1: it when it's like it's so tactic. Yeah, you goes
Speaker 1: like you're gonna you're gonna not believe in anything. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, that's gonna do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeys,
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