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Speaker 1: the Weekly Zeitgeist. Please welcome in a Rubinova. Hi, guys,
Speaker 1: thank you for having me. I didn't realize this was
Speaker 1: a singing podcast, but I am prepared to sing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's do it. Yeah. What which Bernadette Peter song would
Speaker 1: you like to? I guess your choice? Something from Annie
Speaker 1: Dealer's choice? Wow, Wow, you're going from the movies. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's just let's Annie. Uh guys, well we'll forget I
Speaker 1: ever mentioned it. So it's good Anna. Where where are
Speaker 1: you coming to us from. I'm coming to you from
Speaker 1: sunny Los Angeles, California, I A USA. Yeah. The palm
Speaker 1: trees today look frizzled. The sky is a beautiful gray. Oh.
Speaker 1: I think that means there's smog or dust or something.
Speaker 1: It might explain a lot of breathing problems, but yeah,
Speaker 1: just another gorgeous day in reality. Where did you grow up?
Speaker 1: I grew up in New York, Okay, And then how
Speaker 1: did you hear that. Yeah, so it's not just a rumor,
Speaker 1: but that place, it's a real place. Huh is that?
Speaker 1: What's what's it like being from New York and now
Speaker 1: you know, living in like most you know, being a
Speaker 1: New Yorker and then being California, always curious to see
Speaker 1: there's always a very takes on that experience. I am
Speaker 1: so happy I'm here, not there except for this summer.
Speaker 1: This summer, I feel like I would have rather been there.
Speaker 1: But we moved here in six before the election, right,
Speaker 1: so if we had to have lived through Trump in
Speaker 1: New York, I think we would have been in a
Speaker 1: really bad and eventual place, which I mean the sun
Speaker 1: really helped and the if you live in New York,
Speaker 1: do you understand us, Like once winter comes, everything feels
Speaker 1: like it's over. Like you have to you have to,
Speaker 1: like you missed your opportunity, you squandered the year, and
Speaker 1: now you have to plan for how you're going to
Speaker 1: come back in the spring and summer and fall. In
Speaker 1: l A, you have the benefit of patients and like, okay,
Speaker 1: so like you know, it was a nice day to day,
Speaker 1: it was eighty degrees. That's okay, Tomorrow it'll be a
Speaker 1: nice day, eighty degrees. It's okay, I can, I can
Speaker 1: have fun. Then I didn't miss out, you know, and
Speaker 1: I think that was very helpful for my brain, which,
Speaker 1: as you can tell, it's a little messed. Not at
Speaker 1: all sounds good on my end. Great, thank you. I
Speaker 1: appreciate that. Not a day goes by. Sorry, there is,
Speaker 1: so you're not at the point in your l a
Speaker 1: life where you start fetishizing, uh, the winter and missing
Speaker 1: the winter and stuff like that. That usually comes around
Speaker 1: like ten years in Oh no, it's only been five.
Speaker 1: So when that happens, I don't know if winter will
Speaker 1: exist in the world, but that's at that point. I
Speaker 1: think we'll all have like really wonderful like VR air
Speaker 1: pods or something that will replicate, you know, the despair
Speaker 1: of winter accurately, and I think we'll be okay. Sorry,
Speaker 1: there's now like yard work going out going on outside,
Speaker 1: so that's that is perfectly appropriate. It's called texture and
Speaker 1: we love it. On the daily ZI Gist, Miles, I
Speaker 1: meant to tell you that my five year old is
Speaker 1: now I think heading in the direction that you ended
Speaker 1: up in where he because he's never around winter, like
Speaker 1: just in the past couple of weeks he started like
Speaker 1: only wanting to read stories about winter. There's like an
Speaker 1: Avenger story with frost giants and like all it's one
Speaker 1: page of like this one children's book that he has,
Speaker 1: and he like asks me about them every day, so
Speaker 1: like he's he's going to get the very particular type
Speaker 1: of l a born out of this dry desert. You
Speaker 1: all you want to do is wear jackets because it
Speaker 1: seems like exotic clothing to you. Do you guys got
Speaker 1: a big bear lake or whatever. Yeah, but that's like
Speaker 1: for like O one off. You know, like you don't
Speaker 1: get like sustained periods where like you have to wear
Speaker 1: like a scarf and things like that. And every person
Speaker 1: I know who comes from the East Coast like, you
Speaker 1: don't want that, you don't want that, And I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: part of me actually doesn't want to be hot all
Speaker 1: the time either, So you know, it's too much of
Speaker 1: a too much of one thing can be bad. The
Speaker 1: other thing people forget about New York is when it's hot.
Speaker 1: It's so hot you can't live. It's ninety degrees and humid,
Speaker 1: and like last time I was I was back home,
Speaker 1: I had to take a full day off for exhaustion,
Speaker 1: which had never happened to me. I was that excited,
Speaker 1: I I um, I went, I went back, and I
Speaker 1: started like walking everywhere. You know, I was walking places
Speaker 1: I didn't have to just back and forth, back and
Speaker 1: forth because I could. And the next day I had
Speaker 1: to cancel all of my appointments and I had to
Speaker 1: lie down on a couch for a bit. So standard
Speaker 1: New York in the summer is very bad for sweaty people.
Speaker 1: I would like need to bring a change of clothes
Speaker 1: everywhere I went. It was real, it was bad. I
Speaker 1: swept through like entire suits, not just the shirt part. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Not good. And you also have to have a backpack
Speaker 1: full of bricks because that's New York. Yeah, yeah, that's important.
Speaker 1: We like to ask our guest what is something from
Speaker 1: your search history that's revealing about who you are? You
Speaker 1: love to ask that question. I do love it, and
Speaker 1: frankly I love to answer it. The most recent search
Speaker 1: in my search history is it was float Tank near
Speaker 1: me Auckland, which has turned out to be I'll say
Speaker 1: their name at a place called float Culture and Eden Terraces.
Speaker 1: They're not paying for this mention better people, lucrative Green
Speaker 1: back during the pandemic times and so not long after
Speaker 1: this record rep. So I'm gonna go and lie down
Speaker 1: and salty enclosed body of water for an hour and
Speaker 1: see if that is relaxing. What do you guys think?
Speaker 1: I mean, I've I've heard of I really want to
Speaker 1: try it because as a kid, I remember being in
Speaker 1: the bathtub and I would kind of do the version
Speaker 1: where I just kind of put my just my ears
Speaker 1: underneath the surface and just always be like this is
Speaker 1: so weird, and try and like, I don't know, I
Speaker 1: don't know about meditating them, but I guess I was
Speaker 1: doing some form of it with that. So when I
Speaker 1: hear about float tanks and how you know, the buoyancy
Speaker 1: essentially makes it feel you completely sort of begin to
Speaker 1: separate your physical and mental And yeah, I have that sensation.
Speaker 1: I've been really interested in going, but I have not
Speaker 1: done yet. Wow, man, that is exactly my ship. So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go and I'm gonna find out. I'm really
Speaker 1: hard to find out. I'm really excited. Yeah, because there's
Speaker 1: also like the most probably the most relaxed and best
Speaker 1: I feel in my life is you're lying down and
Speaker 1: you're about to fall asleep and it's sort of it's
Speaker 1: not quite loose to dreaming, but it's the moment between
Speaker 1: consciousness and unconsciousness, and you're like, man, my brain is
Speaker 1: taking me where if it once right now? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think it's I have the same thing because like, I
Speaker 1: love floating and just in general, you find me in
Speaker 1: a body of water. I like to float in the
Speaker 1: in the ocean where it's calm enough. I like to
Speaker 1: just get on my back and just feel, you know,
Speaker 1: whatever that sensation is. But I think it's really interesting
Speaker 1: for what they say is just like sort of this
Speaker 1: introspective opportunity that it offers people when you're kind of
Speaker 1: in this situation or in that environment. So I tried
Speaker 1: it once, and I have to just a little piece
Speaker 1: of advice is don't go face down. That's not at all,
Speaker 1: not at all. And I only lasted a couple of
Speaker 1: seconds and got stop doing. Now I've heard it's trippy.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out if that's like the one
Speaker 1: episode of Joe Rogan that I listened to and I
Speaker 1: always talk that I listened to, unrepeat, repeat every day episode.
Speaker 1: I couldn't brisk commuting the waters with any of the
Speaker 1: other one, but they were talking about that and it
Speaker 1: made it very intriguing. And then there's the Simpsons episode
Speaker 1: where he like, basically it's like tripping right, Like, is
Speaker 1: what the most extreme version of it that I've heard?
Speaker 1: I like anything. I'm into anything that can like put
Speaker 1: you in touch with sort of the vast realms of
Speaker 1: your unconscious mind. So I'm this is me saying I'm
Speaker 1: going to do that too. I'm gonna I I don't
Speaker 1: know why I haven't to this point. I'm very interested
Speaker 1: and it sounds great. I'm gonna do it too, and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it on my back if I can.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see the huge spick in traffic
Speaker 1: that float culture eating terraces having right now. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: And you can say you're welcome when you arrived today,
Speaker 1: even though the episode may not be how you can
Speaker 1: just say you're welcome and I and I will see
Speaker 1: and I'll say, man, this guy's got a bad attitude.
Speaker 1: He needs to float immediately. They do like clear clean
Speaker 1: the water right in between floats like that is a
Speaker 1: little drn And is I understand you've got to wash
Speaker 1: yourself for fifteen minutes before and after that's good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: which is yeah, laying in some someone else's soup, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: get your infection in there. Yeah, I don't know that
Speaker 1: it's going to be a brand new soup, right Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think it's a ship I think it's a ship souper.
Speaker 1: I think it's like you're at the restaurant and you
Speaker 1: trust the other. If you're running a tank business, how
Speaker 1: many how many floats you do before you switch out
Speaker 1: the soup? If it's my tank business, Yeah, I'm trying.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like running You don't want to change
Speaker 1: that oil. That's where the flavor is. Oh yeah, all
Speaker 1: the Revelations Iron Skillet, Yeah, all the revel guns are
Speaker 1: keeping the same water over and over. Mix everyone else's
Speaker 1: hallucinations up with your own. Yeah yeah. Like Jacinda was
Speaker 1: just in there, you want to switch he'ld be honored
Speaker 1: to be in there. She was in there. Jermaine Clement
Speaker 1: was in there. I think one time, you know New Zealand,
Speaker 1: he got that great cricketer, the you know, the one
Speaker 1: you know, the what we're talking about, you know, because yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm honored that I've made your New Zealand celebrity lists.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely that's every every person. I asked that.
Speaker 1: I mean that's from New Zealand. I said, you know
Speaker 1: Gataman coming right, that's the homey right there. But that
Speaker 1: that is such a like when when you know the
Speaker 1: the airlines we found out don't clean anything in between
Speaker 1: and they're like taking garbage with you and that's why
Speaker 1: we all got sick on airlines for so many years. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so Keith Urban New Zealand or Australia. You know, damn,
Speaker 1: there's a good question. I think he's Australian. Is he
Speaker 1: married to? No way to know? Yeah, I think he's Australian. Okay.
Speaker 1: There there are a few that are contentious that we
Speaker 1: sort of um. He seems to be in this list
Speaker 1: with like Rush little Crow too. Yeah, Russell cries contentious.
Speaker 1: Both countries claimed him and in both countries were like
Speaker 1: you you have him. But I think he's Australian. Okay,
Speaker 1: Well he wasn't in the soup, so don't worry crowded
Speaker 1: houses New Zealand. But Australia climbs him is throwing got you?
Speaker 1: Got you? What is something you think is overrated? Derek
Speaker 1: Elon Musk Hell yeah, that man, I get hey, he has.
Speaker 1: I get that he has you know, tons of stands
Speaker 1: on Twitter or whatever, but like, like objectively, the dude
Speaker 1: is not like a smart person and he's not a
Speaker 1: good person. Like objectively, we can just like look at
Speaker 1: like lay everything out on the table, bar any of
Speaker 1: the the excuses. Yeah well what about yeah, but what
Speaker 1: about it was like the dude didn't invent anything. He's
Speaker 1: not Tony Stark. We can stop calling him Tony Stark
Speaker 1: because he's not. He's a dude who has been backed
Speaker 1: by blood money his entire life. We can just like
Speaker 1: own that and if you want to stand him for that,
Speaker 1: then just say that, but you need to own it.
Speaker 1: I stand the blood money. Yeah, my blood money gang. Yeah.
Speaker 1: He I think is probably if we had an official
Speaker 1: Overrated as a podcast, or at least if I got
Speaker 1: to like choose it, Elon Musk would be would be mine.
Speaker 1: Just the amount of cultural just energy that goes towards
Speaker 1: just loving on whatever whatever thing he's promoting, whatever bullshit
Speaker 1: scam he's got going, whatever relationship he's in, Like it's
Speaker 1: just yeah, I mean, ultimately, like you know, Bitcoin, we
Speaker 1: we can go back and forth on it all day,
Speaker 1: like it's it's bad for the environment, and the dude
Speaker 1: is ultimately only looking for himself, Like, yeah, he's going
Speaker 1: to try and turn a profit. The whach point is
Speaker 1: what it is because of him. Yeah, he's not in space.
Speaker 1: He's not gonna be in space anytime soon. So do
Speaker 1: you even call yourself a billionaire? He got that contract though,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I remember Bezos is real
Speaker 1: tight about that because he was like, well I should. Also,
Speaker 1: you can't just have one billionaire. You should share billionaires.
Speaker 1: You know that concept. Yeah, we're great at sharing. I
Speaker 1: love that. This is the dystopia. It's it's like we
Speaker 1: still have does I mean, there's still a raging pandemic.
Speaker 1: There's still like global poverty on a on a on
Speaker 1: a level that I hasn't been seen in a long time.
Speaker 1: But then for these three guys, they're like, you know what,
Speaker 1: I think it's time we go to space. Yeah again,
Speaker 1: global poverty for you. Yeah, I don't know if you've
Speaker 1: seen my ship. I fucking cash out on doors right
Speaker 1: before I hit the stage on SNL. Baby, I'm all good,
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's a it's it is again. It's just
Speaker 1: like that deal Scott Hearing. You know, White He's on
Speaker 1: the Moon. Yeah, from from the sixties, basically saying we've
Speaker 1: got all these problems down here, but white he's on
Speaker 1: the moon. Okay. Yeah, and just the and like not
Speaker 1: just like covering ship for this show, but just like
Speaker 1: just ambiently like people who I encounter on a day
Speaker 1: to day basis, like the amount of respect they put
Speaker 1: on Elon Musk's name is just well, you know, because
Speaker 1: I think at the end of the day, like because
Speaker 1: we don't realize that the underpinnings of our whole society
Speaker 1: is that is basically surviving. It's not really that like
Speaker 1: you're living your life not in this country, it's like
Speaker 1: you have to survive because if you if the revenue
Speaker 1: thing shuts down, you're fucked. So like looking at these
Speaker 1: people who don't have the stress of survival is like
Speaker 1: they're like, oh my god, that's the life. That's the life,
Speaker 1: without really considering everything that's tied to that, which is
Speaker 1: we're stuck in a rat race where you're not being
Speaker 1: paid what you should be And meanwhile you're like you're
Speaker 1: you're big enough the people that are siphoning your wealth.
Speaker 1: But I've heard people quote the Elon Musk like he's
Speaker 1: a philosopher. Well, hold on, let me clarify. I only
Speaker 1: said that because I thought it was really poignant. What
Speaker 1: is something you think is under the thing that's underrated
Speaker 1: is just is that is sort of a contemplation you
Speaker 1: get reading a book. We'll just published Tarzan Economics, giving
Speaker 1: him a shameless plug for that, but you know, reading
Speaker 1: and engaging with content. I think podcasts are the same thing.
Speaker 1: When you when you feel as if there's there's a
Speaker 1: conversation that you're part of. I think that's fascinating and
Speaker 1: and way underrated because you feel a connection. And I
Speaker 1: think this sort of bite size, constant flow of distraction
Speaker 1: in social media is is really damaging. Yeah, I can
Speaker 1: build on that a couple of points. So just one.
Speaker 1: I always reminds me when I hear Richard talk about
Speaker 1: this of what Gratual Mark said, which is, you know,
Speaker 1: back then he said television is a fantastic invention because
Speaker 1: every time I switched it on, it reminds me to
Speaker 1: read a good book. And I just wonder what he
Speaker 1: would say about Twitter and Facebook and the like today.
Speaker 1: And I often look at a lot of that social
Speaker 1: media's junk food and keep him with that food theme
Speaker 1: of a colleague of ours Newami Drew. She said to
Speaker 1: me once, what Twitter? There is this ability to You're
Speaker 1: sitting at a big dining table, lots of guess and
Speaker 1: everyone's broken off into private conversations, and Twitter allows you
Speaker 1: to eavesdrop into all those private conversations. I thought somebody
Speaker 1: doesn't tweet. It's a nice illustration of what it might
Speaker 1: actually mean to us. But then you have to step
Speaker 1: back and say, well, why would you want to eavesdrop
Speaker 1: into all those private conversations. We don't have a deeper
Speaker 1: one with something you can reward yourself from as opposed
Speaker 1: to all these distractions. So yeah, it does come across
Speaker 1: as junkard to me. So I'll little Richard's point there.
Speaker 1: But but Myles, I'll something that hopefully you're aware of,
Speaker 1: is that about a month ago, the entirety of UK sport,
Speaker 1: every sport, rugby, cricket, tennis, football, all said complete ban
Speaker 1: on social media for four days over a bank holiday
Speaker 1: weekend because the original sin of Twitter is allowing people
Speaker 1: to be hashtag raving racist or hashtag of you know,
Speaker 1: I love abuse, uh, And it's just absolutely shocking these
Speaker 1: and I say this in all seriousness, I think it
Speaker 1: is the id of Western civilization. All the things that
Speaker 1: we you know, in classic psychoanalysis or psychology, you'd never
Speaker 1: say to people in polite company, All the terrible thoughts
Speaker 1: you have in your head that you would never voice
Speaker 1: directly to somebody. People say them all the time on Twitter,
Speaker 1: and and you you know, you have someone who's who's uh,
Speaker 1: you know, an icon and just deserving of the highest
Speaker 1: of of respect, like Marcus Rashford in in the UK,
Speaker 1: with all the stuff he's done with school lunches and
Speaker 1: so forth, and he just gets the most unbelievable invective
Speaker 1: of abuse, and you don't know where it's coming from.
Speaker 1: And of course no one is gonna walk up to
Speaker 1: him in the street and say these things, and and
Speaker 1: and and and Yet the entirety of sport, it wasn't
Speaker 1: just one sport, It wasn't just a few athletes. It
Speaker 1: was everybody said, this has gonna stop. We gotta take
Speaker 1: a break here, because we're not going to contribute to this,
Speaker 1: this constant bubbling up of of an invitation to take
Speaker 1: potshots at us. Yeah, no, I totally yeah, it's it's
Speaker 1: there's the amount of especially with the racial abuse. Hurld that,
Speaker 1: like the athletes is gob smacked is the word I
Speaker 1: would use when I look at some of the things
Speaker 1: that I read. And Yeah, that even forced one of
Speaker 1: my sporting idols, Tierrian Reid, to like deactivate his accounts,
Speaker 1: and he's saying, I'm not I'm not I'm not gonna,
Speaker 1: I'm not working with this at all. If this is
Speaker 1: what people come here for and the companies allow this
Speaker 1: to just run rampant, what is the point? Yeah, And
Speaker 1: that's why I think a lot of you know, our guests,
Speaker 1: even who are comedians, come on to say, like, like,
Speaker 1: you know, we can't stand social media because there is
Speaker 1: a there's a certain level where, especially for comedians, like
Speaker 1: it's a place to get their jokes off. But on
Speaker 1: the other side of that, it allows for a lot
Speaker 1: of people to just come at them and say all
Speaker 1: kinds of ridiculous things that again, like you're saying, Richard,
Speaker 1: you would never hear someone say that to your face.
Speaker 1: And so we've had to like we've built up these
Speaker 1: weird callouses emotionally to even engage in social media that
Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure resonate in many other ways. So
Speaker 1: so I had a UK UK member Parliament say to me,
Speaker 1: you know, how can it be correct? That's something that
Speaker 1: you would be arrested for telling someone in the street
Speaker 1: to their face. You can say every day on social
Speaker 1: media and will will tell you the the the the
Speaker 1: language that's been hurled at Nicolas Sturgeon as Leader Scotland
Speaker 1: the Scottish National Party. You know she she gets all
Speaker 1: sorts of rape threats or what have you on a
Speaker 1: daily basis, and you know you you can't callous yourself
Speaker 1: entirely to that stuff. It's just no one can but
Speaker 1: on interpreting it, like when when Richard just mentioned it
Speaker 1: was what was inside people's heads all along, but now
Speaker 1: it's pouring out. That reminds me of like one there
Speaker 1: you are normally of crime stats is a good reminder
Speaker 1: for how do you interpret all this activity? So it
Speaker 1: goes like this, if crime stats are up, what do
Speaker 1: we know what has happened? You know a crime is
Speaker 1: on the up, or be we're getting better at catching criminals,
Speaker 1: or see we've changed the definition of crime, or d
Speaker 1: a combination of all of the above. The doesn't necessarily
Speaker 1: mean crime is on the up. It means now we're
Speaker 1: seeing what people had inside their heads all along. I
Speaker 1: think that's an important contextual point about trying to make
Speaker 1: sense of this madness as well. Yeah, that's a really
Speaker 1: good point. I mean, the the neutering effect that banning
Speaker 1: Trump from social media had is something that we talked
Speaker 1: about a lot on on this show. But like that's
Speaker 1: truly that. That was a moment when I really had
Speaker 1: to like sit back and be like, wow, they we
Speaker 1: we haven't figured this out yet, and like that what
Speaker 1: he did, the way he used social media, Like hopefully
Speaker 1: I'm assuming years down the road, like that won't be
Speaker 1: possible in one way or another because it was just
Speaker 1: so so damaging. Neither worried for Scotland. Is he's kind
Speaker 1: of done his time in America. Is he're gonna come
Speaker 1: back to Scotland and open more golf courses because we
Speaker 1: got rid of him for a few years while he
Speaker 1: was making a messy years place. Yeah. Maybe, I mean
Speaker 1: it's it seems like the Scots are are are definitely
Speaker 1: more united and giving him a hard time than the
Speaker 1: people of the US. So I don't know, he who
Speaker 1: knows if if there's maybe a little maga contingent in Scotland.
Speaker 1: Maybe he'll find it there, but it seems like Florida
Speaker 1: is the place for him at the moment. Florida, scot
Speaker 1: better Weatherland, Scotland. Scotland. We have two seasons, winter in
Speaker 1: June and that's your lot. So winter was amazing. Alright, guys,
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and we'll come back and
Speaker 1: talk about the news. And we're back, and so are
Speaker 1: the Olympics. Apparently they're still happening, still coming up, no
Speaker 1: matter what. Doesn't seem like it, but yeah, the Olympics.
Speaker 1: Taxes and death, the things that we will never escape.
Speaker 1: But the Olympics are coming and probably the ass I
Speaker 1: think most people were expecting to be like the Michael
Speaker 1: Johnson of these Olympics. Shicari Richardson, Like she's a track
Speaker 1: and field superstar from America who was like, you know,
Speaker 1: top two, top three favorites to win the hundred meter
Speaker 1: dash become the fastest woman in the world, and she
Speaker 1: has now been suspended from that race because she smoked weed. Yep,
Speaker 1: she tested positive for th HC in a in a
Speaker 1: test that she took a few days after the qualifiers.
Speaker 1: And you know, again, according to the World Anti Doping Agency,
Speaker 1: it's banned during in competition periods. These are the laws
Speaker 1: and the time frame that begins at eleven fifty nine,
Speaker 1: the day before the competition starts. And like they say,
Speaker 1: like you have a certain amount, but up until that window,
Speaker 1: the rules change. And this so she popped on this test.
Speaker 1: And now, because you know the the US Track and
Speaker 1: Field Association goes with the same their signatories to the
Speaker 1: World Anti Doping Agency like Charter and Ship that they
Speaker 1: enforced these laws as well, so that for the U
Speaker 1: S side, the penalty can be anywhere from one month
Speaker 1: to a two year ban. But so in the most uh,
Speaker 1: if she doesn't appeal, and let's say they give her
Speaker 1: one month, her band would technically end right before like
Speaker 1: the track events start. But the thing is, because she
Speaker 1: tested positive, that means her qualifying time is negated, so
Speaker 1: she is not going to be running in the just
Speaker 1: individual race, So that means alternates, the people who are
Speaker 1: now the fourth place finisher has moved on to the team.
Speaker 1: In the fifth place person has now become an alternate
Speaker 1: from the qualifiers and the best right now as it stands,
Speaker 1: the only chance she has is to participate in the
Speaker 1: four by one relay because the track association is able
Speaker 1: to select people to participate in that. So this is like, really,
Speaker 1: this is just completely fucked up. The things that I
Speaker 1: think a lot of people remember from her qualifying win
Speaker 1: was just her words about everything she had gone through
Speaker 1: to arrive at this moment. I'd been having the support
Speaker 1: of her family that her biological mother had passed away
Speaker 1: days before. The thing is, she was told by a reporter,
Speaker 1: a reporter that her biological mother passed away. That's how
Speaker 1: she found out, and that was when she went and
Speaker 1: you know, enjoyed some weed or whatever, just to you know,
Speaker 1: deal with hearing this from some other person, just out
Speaker 1: of the blue. And now she's looking at completely losing
Speaker 1: her shot at at participating the Olympics. And it's just
Speaker 1: so fucking dumb. Like I get that the rules are
Speaker 1: the rules, but this is just such this like anti
Speaker 1: weed stuff. It's like our prohibition on marijuana is just
Speaker 1: so built around this pseudo scientific, racist nonsense, because let's
Speaker 1: be real, it's not a performance enhancing drug. The only
Speaker 1: fucking performance it's enhancing is like you watching a clip
Speaker 1: of Santana on YouTube for some ship, or like if
Speaker 1: you play a guitar, it's not, you're not you're not
Speaker 1: You're not seeing the matrix in a track race and
Speaker 1: now you're fucking muscles are working over time. So it's
Speaker 1: just like really disheartening and just sort of underlines just
Speaker 1: how behind we are in so many ways. Or if
Speaker 1: you're hosting a podcast about nine D fiance, I should
Speaker 1: I should chime in on your behalf there, But that's
Speaker 1: an Olympic event, mhm. It Yeah, it's truly baffling. Like
Speaker 1: alcohol is not a like if I guess you can't
Speaker 1: test for alcohol, but it's not a band substance and
Speaker 1: other than your coach probably telling you not to do
Speaker 1: it because it's not going to make you faster, And
Speaker 1: I would assume marijuana is the same way. That's it's
Speaker 1: really strange, but not strange, I guess to be expected
Speaker 1: based on like the history of racism around marijuana and
Speaker 1: the present racism around marijuana. Yeah, I mean it's we
Speaker 1: were aways talk about it as as past tense of
Speaker 1: you know, why marijuana was banned in the first place,
Speaker 1: you know, anti black, anti Mexican sentiments and all that,
Speaker 1: and it's like where we have not even scratched the
Speaker 1: surface of you know, the constant stigma that's still associated
Speaker 1: with it. I watched a short clip of her saying,
Speaker 1: you know, like this isn't I'm still young, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I'm gonna figure it out. I still have a lot
Speaker 1: of races ahead of me, you know, to that effect,
Speaker 1: and I'm just gonna I'll be back, you know. Yeah, gosh,
Speaker 1: I it's so fucked up in every single way. And
Speaker 1: I just constantly feel like everyone who speaks out about
Speaker 1: it says a thing, and then nothing happens, you know,
Speaker 1: like we'll, we'll weigh in, we'll we'll throw in our
Speaker 1: two cents and go like, yeah, this is like this
Speaker 1: is clearly you know, discrimination, and they're and they're picking
Speaker 1: on people and and it's but then nothing happened. Like
Speaker 1: we we all know, we all know the facts. We
Speaker 1: all know this isn't a performance enhancing drug. We all
Speaker 1: know why it was banned in the first place. We
Speaker 1: know why alcohol was unbanned, you know, or maybe not,
Speaker 1: Like sometimes I get smurky, you know, like prohibition ends
Speaker 1: because of you know, pressure from probably some corporate shit
Speaker 1: and there's just not enough of it here, or it's
Speaker 1: cultural different people, right, like it's it's just funked up,
Speaker 1: and everyone, I'm sorry that I'm ranting, and all I
Speaker 1: can do is curse about it. But well, no, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just it's frustrating because you look at somebody who
Speaker 1: is performing to the best of their abilities, you know
Speaker 1: what it means to them, and then for them to
Speaker 1: just get caught up in these relics of racist just nonsense,
Speaker 1: to funk up your chances to represent the fucking country.
Speaker 1: You think like that, this country is so focused on winning, Like,
Speaker 1: shut the funk up cares that you're smoking weed. This
Speaker 1: person is gonna win the fucking gold medal in the
Speaker 1: one and that's what we're about to put our best
Speaker 1: athletes out there. But you still there's still this like this,
Speaker 1: we're still so intertwined with these backwards laws and I
Speaker 1: don't know why. You know, again, we're not having I mean,
Speaker 1: we are having this conversation, but the powers that be
Speaker 1: aren't because I think at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: you realize that they're not interested in understanding what is
Speaker 1: equity or what is actually fair or not. They're probably
Speaker 1: taking They like having mechanisms of suppression, they like having
Speaker 1: that in place, They like have they like playing that
Speaker 1: dumb game of chess that they think they're playing where
Speaker 1: they're out smarting everybody and we all can see through it.
Speaker 1: It's just that they're still in power and they could
Speaker 1: still make they make the rules and change them at will.
Speaker 1: So you know, if a certain person is caught, you know,
Speaker 1: having an affair, it can be a huge scandal. If
Speaker 1: if Trump, well, I mean I don't know the whole
Speaker 1: cosmy thing. It's like, oh, thirty five women came out
Speaker 1: against him and still it was overturned. So like it's
Speaker 1: the rules app is, Yeah, Trump is in the choice,
Speaker 1: Like the rules just don't fucking apply as long as
Speaker 1: long as you have the money to support or or
Speaker 1: the or just the power structure, it makes absolutely no sense.
Speaker 1: The Olympics are are also just you know, straight trash. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And and also to have that reporter question this athlete
Speaker 1: and go like, you know, are like are you gonna apologize?
Speaker 1: Like what are you gonna do? Like how do you feel?
Speaker 1: How do you how did you know? Tell us about
Speaker 1: how you disappointed everybody? Whatever? Like you know, she's going
Speaker 1: home and drinking a boxed wine after that, like everyone
Speaker 1: more like taking whatever pills her doctors prescribed her and
Speaker 1: because those are legal, she's fine. And this girl smoked
Speaker 1: weed on a legal state, not on the day that
Speaker 1: she's competing either, right, Like marijuana stays in your system
Speaker 1: for a bit. Okay, yeah, and that's such a good
Speaker 1: point and recorder like probably yeah, And it is really
Speaker 1: frustrating to see like the way it's being covered by
Speaker 1: the media, the ap like unquestioning Lee just be you know,
Speaker 1: the and then it almost feels like she is She's like, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: I owned what I did. I made a mistake, and
Speaker 1: like I'll be I'll bounce back. But like it's just
Speaker 1: like why why why isn't anyone saying the obvious thing
Speaker 1: that this is fucking down. You didn't make a mistake.
Speaker 1: She didn't make a mistake. She I would say, she's
Speaker 1: practicing self care in a tough in a in a
Speaker 1: tough situation and taking care of herself while she's dealing
Speaker 1: with all this you know, familial and mental stress, with
Speaker 1: all of the pressure, the full pressure of her being
Speaker 1: this star athlete that's going to go represent a country
Speaker 1: that barely respects her. That's a lot of pressure. And
Speaker 1: if all you do is smoke a little weed, holy ship, Like,
Speaker 1: how how strong are you to just you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think and it's yeah, it's it's only a mistake
Speaker 1: in this narrow, stupid context of being an athlete and
Speaker 1: all these weird fucking rules that they have that let's
Speaker 1: face it, or mostly we're seeing, you know, athletes of
Speaker 1: color be punished for these kinds of things. So it
Speaker 1: makes you frustrate on so many levels because at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, this is a human being who,
Speaker 1: like you have to allow people to have the you know,
Speaker 1: latitude to fucking take care of themselves or whatever. I get.
Speaker 1: It's and especially in the context that isn't running a
Speaker 1: foul of local laws or putting anyone in danger. So really,
Speaker 1: what who is this protecting? And I think that the
Speaker 1: way that you know, Jack, like you're saying that ap
Speaker 1: is gonna be like, yeah, well violated the laws without
Speaker 1: being like, yeah, well hold on, what the funk are
Speaker 1: these laws? Though? Like what is what are these regulations for?
Speaker 1: And noticed she had to say that in her in
Speaker 1: our apology, I am a person. I'm a human being, right,
Speaker 1: Like I'm obviously paraphrasing, but she was like, remember I'm
Speaker 1: not you know, I'm a human firstly not a superhero,
Speaker 1: but also not you're you know, not yours to do
Speaker 1: with what you please, Like I'm not. I'm only here
Speaker 1: because someone pushed me in front of the camera and
Speaker 1: told me I had to be sorry for this, you know,
Speaker 1: otherwise I want to run. Yeah, Like, yeah, it doesn't
Speaker 1: even seem legal to be honest, because you can you
Speaker 1: really punish somebody for something for for doing something legal
Speaker 1: days before a performance and answering, Yeah, I'm sure this
Speaker 1: is going to evolve over the you know, in the
Speaker 1: next few days, because you know, she can appeal, and
Speaker 1: I'm sure that would be your reason to say, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, what do you do? You you know,
Speaker 1: you want to see somebody run hot, like faster because
Speaker 1: they're high or whatever, Like I don't know what that means. Also,
Speaker 1: I'm going through things. Can you extend some empathy towards me? Also,
Speaker 1: these laws are nonsense, So what are we doing here?
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean I think, I mean, the public
Speaker 1: is definitely like outraged because they see this for what
Speaker 1: it is. And like I think for most people now,
Speaker 1: you know, the majority of society is like, what's the
Speaker 1: problem with someone smoking weed? Like what are we talking
Speaker 1: about here. We're not all our you know, sixth grade
Speaker 1: teachers from like the nineties who are like, oh, and
Speaker 1: maybe the silver lighting here is that she will maybe
Speaker 1: be a trailblazer in that way, you know, maybe she
Speaker 1: is the test case. Maybe she will turn it all
Speaker 1: around because of public opinion and because of the situation here.
Speaker 1: I think I hope that she will come out of
Speaker 1: the stronger and more powerful and more successful because of
Speaker 1: her situation and how she's handling it. Right, It's still
Speaker 1: not fair, but I hope that is the outcome. That she,
Speaker 1: you know, gets a book deal, gets a movie deal,
Speaker 1: gets all these statues. You know, like that might be
Speaker 1: the outcome. It's just not It shouldn't have happened and
Speaker 1: it shouldn't be happening to everybody in similar situations. So
Speaker 1: and like that is hopefully a silver lining that people
Speaker 1: recognize that this shouldn't be fucking rule. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, like, this is somebody who trains their whole
Speaker 1: life to compete for these nine seconds, and which is
Speaker 1: insane that she can do it in nine seconds, but
Speaker 1: like and and to have that taken away from them,
Speaker 1: it's just so fucking cruel. That's unbelievable. Yeah. And what's
Speaker 1: also this idea of like the substances being banned comes
Speaker 1: from like these paternalistic sort of perspective like, well, we're
Speaker 1: looking after the athletes to like what's best for them.
Speaker 1: But it's like, well, they have a lot more ship
Speaker 1: on there if you're purely interested in the health of
Speaker 1: the athletes, because it doesn't look like that, and it
Speaker 1: just rings hollow. So you know, I honestly I hope
Speaker 1: that they realized they you should ry Richardson at these Olympics,
Speaker 1: you know, even though you know, fun the Olympics, they're
Speaker 1: such a tortured event. But uh yeah, I I hope
Speaker 1: you can run to carry That's a great wrap up
Speaker 1: of this topic. Yeah, all right. I wanted to talk
Speaker 1: about residential schools, and this is, you know, an ongoing
Speaker 1: story that we're gonna continue talking about on this show.
Speaker 1: But there's been a lot of coverage of the mass
Speaker 1: graves of you know, Indigenous people and children discovered on
Speaker 1: the grounds of former residential schools in Canada, and a
Speaker 1: lot of the coverage has treated it as a uniquely
Speaker 1: Canadian phenomenon. I think we even were like, god, damn,
Speaker 1: this is like evil for Canada. Well, it turns out
Speaker 1: America gave them the idea for Indian residential schools. As
Speaker 1: early as eighteen nineteen, the United States was institutionalizing indigenous
Speaker 1: genocide in the form of industrial schools and boarding programs,
Speaker 1: and then a canade Indian prime minister sent a journalist
Speaker 1: down to like document it, and they basically imported it
Speaker 1: from America. They imported the idea and the ideology from America,
Speaker 1: which is not shocking. But this writer, Abigail Kirby Conklin,
Speaker 1: directly reached out and was like, Yo, you guys should
Speaker 1: know that this is America is very complaxit in this
Speaker 1: I mean, America's superpower, one of them is just to
Speaker 1: point out a problem abroad and be like, I can't
Speaker 1: believe that's happening there. Meanwhile, you started this ship right
Speaker 1: and just yeah and be able to put the focus
Speaker 1: on something else. I mean, yeah, whenever I'd read about him,
Speaker 1: like where are the story is about? Because you know,
Speaker 1: the US has a terrible track record with indigenous genocide,
Speaker 1: so I'm curious when the media here begins to bring
Speaker 1: it up. But it takes takes a lot for you know,
Speaker 1: corporate media here to begin to talk about history or
Speaker 1: how it relates to other countries. Yeah, it's like if
Speaker 1: we if we just if we let it pass, nobody
Speaker 1: will know that won't talk about it. So like the
Speaker 1: Catholic Church, we know is like just a criminal institution,
Speaker 1: you know, from even when all of those like white
Speaker 1: kids were getting molested in Boston, Like they're a criminal
Speaker 1: organization that that has built an entire empire on like
Speaker 1: actual human misery and suffering. And it doesn't it doesn't
Speaker 1: surprise me that that the pope or or many of
Speaker 1: these sort of like religious figures are like well, you know,
Speaker 1: everybody's nobody's perfect to kind of describe like murdering children
Speaker 1: and taking them from their families, and the fact that
Speaker 1: like a few of the churches have burned down, people
Speaker 1: like oh my god, oh these churches. So it's like
Speaker 1: you're lucky that all that they came for was the
Speaker 1: building when you came for their children, Like, I don't
Speaker 1: we do so so much pro clutching over like the
Speaker 1: protection of children, but here are mass graves of children.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like, yeah, well, what do you expect?
Speaker 1: What do you want? It was a different time, right,
Speaker 1: it's like, well, I don't know, it's kind of the
Speaker 1: same now because we just it's it's just more technological
Speaker 1: and now it's about separating people and families, and it's
Speaker 1: it's it's the same energy. It's just manifesting in different ways.
Speaker 1: And even to your point, I mean, like there's a
Speaker 1: papal decree you know, before the colonization of the America's
Speaker 1: where the pope was like, hey, Spain, Portugal, go do
Speaker 1: your fucking thing over there. Enslave these people, convert them.
Speaker 1: That's your right. I'm the pope. I'm out go do it.
Speaker 1: Like that is like the all there's they go hand
Speaker 1: in hand with each other. So I think the first
Speaker 1: episode that I that I was here with you guys
Speaker 1: on like I was talking about my indigenous ancestry and
Speaker 1: like so that in itself like sort of touches my history.
Speaker 1: I was I was reading and you know, like a
Speaker 1: lot of the documentation that we have a out the
Speaker 1: Michigan Empire, what people call the Aztecs, because the Aztecs
Speaker 1: were like a federation. They weren't called Aztecs, that were Michiga,
Speaker 1: and there were several different tribes and they were like
Speaker 1: a Federation of Communities when when the Spanish came, Like
Speaker 1: there's there's an account written by a Spaniard where it's like, well,
Speaker 1: we were welcomed into Lan with like incense, miko because
Speaker 1: they thought we were gods. And like the the ego
Speaker 1: and the arrogance on top of that, and it's like
Speaker 1: they didn't think you were gods. You smelled like you didn't.
Speaker 1: Bay were filthy. You were filthy. They had working sewage system.
Speaker 1: They were essentially spraying you with axe body spray on
Speaker 1: pond entry and you didn't get the hint. They perfume
Speaker 1: us like we are there, like we are stinky pieces
Speaker 1: of colonizers shit and so but it's like but but
Speaker 1: it's like that's the record that that persisted that you know,
Speaker 1: because a lot of the stuff was burned, A lot
Speaker 1: of the stuff was destroyed, and a lot of indigenous
Speaker 1: history tends to be oral, or it tends to be
Speaker 1: passed down through stories, storytelling. So like the the Catholic
Speaker 1: Church giving giving Spain and giving Portugal permission to sort
Speaker 1: of like go to town, go ham On, you know,
Speaker 1: my ancestors was like was part of that sort of
Speaker 1: that was part of that of that record keeping. I
Speaker 1: guess it's like, you know, oh, these these people are
Speaker 1: are savages and these people are you know, they had
Speaker 1: to they had to come up with a story to
Speaker 1: justify what they wanted to get done. And it's tragic
Speaker 1: that like that is the story that gets passed down
Speaker 1: in schools or just like the top surface level of
Speaker 1: like history. So when when we talk about indigenous people
Speaker 1: or we talk about you know, sort of the the
Speaker 1: atrocities that happened to us, like there's just that top
Speaker 1: soil level of like, well, you guys weren't even really
Speaker 1: civilized anyway, and you know, well you guys were just
Speaker 1: roaming around in the woods Thanksgiving, like everyone killed together.
Speaker 1: So the problem is like I think we were just
Speaker 1: more lit and it's just sort of all of these
Speaker 1: all of these like colonial sort of it's like, well,
Speaker 1: why don't you why don't you just ask any of
Speaker 1: us like there, you know, ye go directly to the source.
Speaker 1: It's not like it's not like we disappeared. It's wild
Speaker 1: like that you talk about that, because I remember one
Speaker 1: of my first like history classes in college was about
Speaker 1: Iberian history. So we're talking about Spain and you know,
Speaker 1: colonization of the Americas and things like that. And I
Speaker 1: remember this is in college. This person raised their hand
Speaker 1: when we were talking about Indigenous people and they're being
Speaker 1: and then being enforced conversions and things like that. This
Speaker 1: person was so sincerely confused in this lecture class raised
Speaker 1: their hand and out loud asked, well, didn't the indigenous
Speaker 1: people want to be converted to Christianity? Like as if
Speaker 1: you could tell that this person's entire life was spent
Speaker 1: believing this one thing that they didn't think it was
Speaker 1: a hot take. They were sincerely confused in a class
Speaker 1: about the you know, America's But then they're saying, but
Speaker 1: I thought they wanted to And you realize, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's a lot of the ship that we have to
Speaker 1: spend our time overcoming is these lies that were told. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if that's your automatic perception of of Native people pre colonization,
Speaker 1: then nothing's a genocide, Then nothing's terrible, then nothing, you know,
Speaker 1: a humanitarian crime. Yeah, we were doing them a favor.
Speaker 1: And the idea that all these things are lost to history,
Speaker 1: Like there are entire histories that are untranslated because nobody
Speaker 1: bothered to learn the languages and read them. And it's
Speaker 1: also like this idea like that that idea that they
Speaker 1: are less advanced, that their civilizations were less advanced. Like
Speaker 1: they they were more advanced, they were cleaner, they had
Speaker 1: sewage systems. The only reason that they died is because
Speaker 1: of like there there was a lot of obviously like
Speaker 1: military brutality, but it was they were weakened by play,
Speaker 1: Like it was just the luck of the draw of
Speaker 1: the German the germ theory that basically sucked them over.
Speaker 1: And it was like nine of the continent was depopulated.
Speaker 1: And that's the reason, not it's not that there was
Speaker 1: like better much better technology or yeah, because yeah, like
Speaker 1: it literally they like the Michigan Empire built an island.
Speaker 1: They built an island in the middle of a lake
Speaker 1: to like the epicenter of trade. Like I don't know
Speaker 1: how you get more advanced than that. Yeah, how about
Speaker 1: ship in your double loom or the or you know
Speaker 1: the folks in like Arizona and New Mexico who like
Speaker 1: you know, built cities into the into the mountains, Like yeah,
Speaker 1: there's there's so many there's so many sites and structures
Speaker 1: and things will never know about because they were because
Speaker 1: they were dismantled because they were destroyed, and like our
Speaker 1: the lifestyle was forevery for every Obviously I'm not going
Speaker 1: to speak for for every every injigious person or where
Speaker 1: wherever they come from, but like lifestyles were just different
Speaker 1: than you know, like these sort of permanent, massive structures
Speaker 1: to like pat yourself on the back of how awesome
Speaker 1: you are didn't exist for a lot of people. Like
Speaker 1: you know, some people were nomadic. Some people were sort
Speaker 1: of like oh we have we know, we go where
Speaker 1: we follow the food. Like like just doing any sort
Speaker 1: of actual research that like oral oral history that's been
Speaker 1: that's been written and documented by other indigenous people, like
Speaker 1: there's there's so much to learn and there's so much
Speaker 1: like when you truly understand like how fucked over we
Speaker 1: were in terms of like Jack was saying, like yes,
Speaker 1: the smallpox devastated the population, but there were also government
Speaker 1: programs both from Spain, both from Portugal and the and
Speaker 1: the United States, like the intent really killing buffalo to
Speaker 1: starve natives, you know, being able to these residential schools
Speaker 1: literally being able to purchase Native children like for ten dollars.
Speaker 1: Like it's multifaceted in in the way that the genocide
Speaker 1: occurred and is still going because of because of like
Speaker 1: I know, you know people in the Nabato Nation, like
Speaker 1: who don't have clean water, Like they don't have running water,
Speaker 1: they don't have paved roads in a lot of places,
Speaker 1: like the US government like literally like killing them out
Speaker 1: of neglect because it was sort of like, oh, you
Speaker 1: want to be your own autonomous nations, fine, go ahead,
Speaker 1: but don't ask us for anything. Yeah. Yeah, it's like sure,
Speaker 1: we took all of this, all of us away from
Speaker 1: me and told you we were gonna pay you for it.
Speaker 1: But right, we're just gonna stick you over here and
Speaker 1: let you do your own thing. We'll pass. We'll get
Speaker 1: to check to you sometime. Yeah, America doesn't remember because
Speaker 1: it doesn't want to remember, because this is the DNA
Speaker 1: of America. Is that So they incarcerated thousands of indigenous children,
Speaker 1: Like we still have a country that is built on
Speaker 1: mass incarceration. There's the imprisonment of migrants along our border
Speaker 1: with Mexico during World War two. Like it's just repeating
Speaker 1: structures within American society that we don't want to examine
Speaker 1: and fix because that's how the society works essentially. But
Speaker 1: with specifically with indigenous people. It's really like just go fun,
Speaker 1: go look up Cohokia and the they built a striped
Speaker 1: mountain that was like made of various colors of soil
Speaker 1: and clay that they had brought from like hundreds of
Speaker 1: miles away in St. Louis. That like put the Great
Speaker 1: Pyramid of Giza or the pyramids in Egypt to shame.
Speaker 1: And the reason that like you've never heard of that
Speaker 1: is because they were about to build a fucking parking
Speaker 1: lot on it when somebody realized what was happening. Cokey
Speaker 1: was like the biggest city in the world during the
Speaker 1: twelve And America systematically and intentionally doesn't want to honor
Speaker 1: these histories because they were erased for a reason. And
Speaker 1: you know that there's still a lot of America's ideals
Speaker 1: that are that are tied up in the reasons that
Speaker 1: it was erased and why you never learned how advanced
Speaker 1: indigenous civilizations were. But it's actively being ignored, it's actively
Speaker 1: being written out of the news, out of history, and
Speaker 1: people just aren't bothering to study this stuff because it
Speaker 1: kind of contradicts, you know, the central American ideal. I
Speaker 1: guess sceptional it can't be exceptional if you're mediocre in
Speaker 1: comparison to the indigenous people, that you're just moved into
Speaker 1: a like apocalyptic society and like moved into people's houses
Speaker 1: like fucking Goldilocks and started like just pretended like you
Speaker 1: did all the work yourself. Yeah. Anyways, we will continue
Speaker 1: to cover that as America hopefully deals with its own
Speaker 1: history of residential schools. I mean, it's wild to think
Speaker 1: there's more of a concerted effort to not teach history
Speaker 1: at the moment, and you know, like that's picking up
Speaker 1: so much space, especially on the conservative side. Is this
Speaker 1: whole thing, you know, like when you especially what is
Speaker 1: it relates to critical race theory that's not even being
Speaker 1: taught in elementary schools, but it's there. They know that
Speaker 1: it's on the subconscious of a lot of conservatives. They
Speaker 1: know it's like they don't talk about the terrible stuff
Speaker 1: because then that that that sort of helps bolster the
Speaker 1: arguments that we are backwards and we need to change. Yeah, alright,
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and we'll be right back,
Speaker 1: and we're back, and let's talk about Netflix currently. You
Speaker 1: know they've got well, first of all, the second season
Speaker 1: of I think you should leave. Just dropped, so I'm
Speaker 1: very excited about that. But um, when you look at
Speaker 1: the top ten, for the most part, it's a lot
Speaker 1: of reality shows. Our new producer DJ Dramas was pointing
Speaker 1: out that Too Hot to Handle is constantly trending in
Speaker 1: the top five because they just dropped season two of that,
Speaker 1: which is the hot people try not to have sex
Speaker 1: with each other reality show where where a hundred thousand
Speaker 1: dollars is that is at risk or you know, they're
Speaker 1: competing to win a hundred thousand dollars And yeah, Miles,
Speaker 1: you were you were reading somewhere that it's just like Netflix,
Speaker 1: maybe more the safe like CBS version. Yeah, which is
Speaker 1: funny in this right of and wired about Netflix. Like
Speaker 1: every paragraph whoever wrote this, I'm just gonna pack them
Speaker 1: up by name, because they were clearly I think you
Speaker 1: should leave now, fans, because every like opportunity there was
Speaker 1: to talk about, I mean, the only thing to watch
Speaker 1: on Netflix is obviously I think you should leave season two.
Speaker 1: And then like three paragraphs later it's like, and I
Speaker 1: mean we're not for shows like maybe I think you
Speaker 1: should leave season two that's about to drop. Netflix might
Speaker 1: not have anything, and I just love when people like
Speaker 1: are hardcore. So Kate NIBBs, I see you you, Tim
Speaker 1: Robinson stand I love the energy. But in this piece
Speaker 1: was writing, you know, globally, Netflix is the dominant streamer
Speaker 1: like that, that's just without the shadow of a doubt
Speaker 1: when we look at the the Nielsen ratings, like that's reflected.
Speaker 1: It's like Netflix is the default top ten and then
Speaker 1: if another streamer has a like big movie or a
Speaker 1: big show come out, they will sometimes crack the top
Speaker 1: ten for like a week and then it goes back
Speaker 1: to all Netflix. But now you know, they're saying with HBO,
Speaker 1: Max and Disney plus they're finding their kind of rhythm
Speaker 1: in terms of original of original releases and like many
Speaker 1: news services coming online because it used to be like,
Speaker 1: well at least Netflix has a lot of stuff. Now
Speaker 1: it's becoming like if you like horror, if you want anime, like,
Speaker 1: you're probably not gonna go to Netflix. You go to
Speaker 1: like crunchy roll or something like that. And then in
Speaker 1: the summer they had like a lot of the movies
Speaker 1: are coming on HBO Max, Mortal Kombat, that Mortal Kombat
Speaker 1: film came out, the Godzilla and Versus Kong film came out,
Speaker 1: and like those did numbers that apparently made the Army
Speaker 1: of the Dead on Netflix just seemed like a mild hit.
Speaker 1: And so all of this together they're kind of saying, like, well,
Speaker 1: it seems like it's sort of Netflix has definitely lost
Speaker 1: its place in terms of like the prestige area, and
Speaker 1: if even if you want to talk about them wanting
Speaker 1: to be a full fledged film studio, Amazon just went
Speaker 1: and bought a whole ass film studio in MGM. So
Speaker 1: they're like, how are they going to keep up? Because
Speaker 1: it seems like now they're real big hits, are I
Speaker 1: think you should leave? And maybe and Sexy Beasts where
Speaker 1: the people wearing like prosthetics to look like animals and
Speaker 1: ship that dating showing. They're like, where has the prestige gone?
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, Yeah, it's interesting, I mean, and when you
Speaker 1: look at what like they have all these accidental hits
Speaker 1: like that art film in quotes from the guy who
Speaker 1: directed Into the Void, but the premise was it's a
Speaker 1: art film where people are actually having sex. And then
Speaker 1: there was the sixty five Days, which was just a
Speaker 1: softcore porn Those were like among their top ten shows,
Speaker 1: So I mean, they acquire a lot of content and
Speaker 1: then just let the let the people sort it out.
Speaker 1: And supposedly they make their programming and like what they
Speaker 1: invest in decisions based on what people tell them they want.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's it's just sort of what happens when
Speaker 1: you're your commissioning is done by an algorithm. Like there
Speaker 1: are so many student dio execs or whatever it Netflix,
Speaker 1: but it's like what do they do? They take meetings
Speaker 1: with people, then go into a big room with you know,
Speaker 1: a smart board with mass equations happening, and then come
Speaker 1: back out and say, sorry, right, I don't Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: this because even I think about it, I've looked at
Speaker 1: through the prism of stand up comedy, there was that
Speaker 1: window where if you've got to stand up comedies fecihal
Speaker 1: on Netflix, it was this close to sort of like
Speaker 1: getting on Carston or Letterman, you know, eons ago, where
Speaker 1: it was like there was a certain amount of prestige
Speaker 1: attached to that. But now it's as though it's it's
Speaker 1: nowhere near. I mean, I don't think that they streamed
Speaker 1: the same numbers, and it's just not like they give
Speaker 1: out those huge deals to your Chappell's or your Signfelds
Speaker 1: or whatever. But for for ordinary communities it's still fantastic.
Speaker 1: But it's just there's no care or attention paid to it.
Speaker 1: It's like, this is one of the cheapest things that
Speaker 1: we can commission, and I guess we'll give it a
Speaker 1: go and if people watch it, then we'll notice it
Speaker 1: coming back, right, And they're and they're kind of and
Speaker 1: Netflix is in a new phase. You know, they're no
Speaker 1: longer borrowing money for the first time. That was always
Speaker 1: a thing where it's like where is all what are
Speaker 1: they doing? But you know, I think this is part
Speaker 1: of their long term strategy. And yeah, things like Disney
Speaker 1: Plus and HBO Max even Paramount Plus they're siphoning away
Speaker 1: people's like watch time, Like it's funny, like I have Netflix,
Speaker 1: but again I'm really only watching. You'll probably watch I
Speaker 1: think you should leave, or Sexy Beasts or the f
Speaker 1: One Show or something like that. It's only like a
Speaker 1: couple of things. I feel like I need Netflix before,
Speaker 1: whereas you know, ask me seven years ago, I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, man, you're not fucking Netflix, Like what
Speaker 1: the fund do you do? Like how do you live?
Speaker 1: And again these analysts are looking at it as because
Speaker 1: they're just they're so ubiquitous and now globally they just
Speaker 1: have such a lion share of the eyeballs that it's
Speaker 1: just going to be more like CBS, where they were
Speaker 1: like the first to broadcast. But now people are just like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, like it's it's around, but I'm not.
Speaker 1: I don't funk with CBS because I think it's cool.
Speaker 1: It just happens to be the biggest thing. Yeah, and well,
Speaker 1: I mean the way that these other streaming apps are
Speaker 1: pubbing up and qualifying their place, it's like there's only
Speaker 1: so much money in people's wallets with Eventually you have
Speaker 1: to you know, you can't just you have to choose,
Speaker 1: and you can't just choose something because it's got one
Speaker 1: show you go to your friends and watch it. But
Speaker 1: like you can't just be like, I'm going to get
Speaker 1: Netflix because they're gonna have a new season of Tim
Speaker 1: Robinson's showing another year or two years. It doesn't make
Speaker 1: any sense. But here I am waiting for Tim waiting
Speaker 1: no more. I know you gotta out today as we
Speaker 1: record this. Yeah, you gotta meet out your your value
Speaker 1: you're getting from the show because there's a year's worth
Speaker 1: of Netflix subscription distilled into six episodes. I flew through them.
Speaker 1: I mean when the first season came out, I probably
Speaker 1: just watched the first season three times over just because
Speaker 1: like the replay value was like it was infinite for
Speaker 1: a while, and I had to do the thing where
Speaker 1: I didn't want to start memorizing all of the bits
Speaker 1: like with other things I've watched, because then I just
Speaker 1: find myself forming along with my TV rather than being
Speaker 1: like an audience because I like it so much. I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh man, if he tagged me and I could do
Speaker 1: this sketch with him. It's just like it's a real
Speaker 1: advertisement for stupidity that show, because it is the stupidest
Speaker 1: show on television and also the best, and it's not
Speaker 1: a coincidence. Well, you can't be that. That's the irony
Speaker 1: of it, is like you have to be really smart
Speaker 1: to be able to pull off the Ship. That's that dumb,
Speaker 1: you know. It's not just like, oh man, look at
Speaker 1: this bozo just falling over himself. It's like, no, like
Speaker 1: you gotta like that's the I think that's why I
Speaker 1: really loved Ship when I watched this is so it's
Speaker 1: also but it's good it's a performance style as well,
Speaker 1: because it's just it's such every character is so entrenched
Speaker 1: in there, you know, in themselves. This commitment to everything
Speaker 1: is so real. It's just like you can't look away
Speaker 1: because it's like these these beautiful little car crashes with
Speaker 1: the drivers. I mean literally in one sketch was like
Speaker 1: the driver saying there wasn't a car crash, which is
Speaker 1: so perfect for our country. A car crash happens like
Speaker 1: it clearly wasn't me, even though everyone saw him do it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think there's a reason that that resonates with people,
Speaker 1: stupid people making embarrassing mistakes and then refusing to admit it.
Speaker 1: For some reason that that resonates with the modern world.
Speaker 1: I had a kind of related streaming question with regards
Speaker 1: to so it seems like all Pixar movies from now
Speaker 1: on are just coming out without like they're just gonna
Speaker 1: be Disney plus products. And I feel like that's like
Speaker 1: there's this new Luca one about like a kid who's
Speaker 1: a sea monster that is apparently a metaphor for like
Speaker 1: lgbt Q, like you know, being Yeah, it's a meta
Speaker 1: full for Disney acknowledging that queenness exists in the world. Exactly, yes, exactly,
Speaker 1: but it's like it's just gonna be dropped on Disney Plus.
Speaker 1: It seems like and that's what happened with Soul, they
Speaker 1: dropped it for free. And I don't know, it feels like,
Speaker 1: do you guys feel like it's devaluing like Pixar movies,
Speaker 1: Like it just feels like it's less of an event
Speaker 1: now when picks are like Onward came out last year
Speaker 1: and like that wasn't really a big thing. I think
Speaker 1: that came out before the pandemic, so it hit theaters.
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I think there's a few things
Speaker 1: happening out. Imagine it's a response to the fact that
Speaker 1: they're not going to pull huge numbers at the cinema.
Speaker 1: And then also there's some element that it could be
Speaker 1: a marketing strap. It's like Uber gave out really cheap
Speaker 1: cab rides for a while, so everyone was, man, I
Speaker 1: can't believe all these cab rides are so cheap, and
Speaker 1: then they're like, okay, are we the only thing you
Speaker 1: use is this how you get around? Now, Well, guess
Speaker 1: what cab rides because seventy dollars now and you go,
Speaker 1: what the fund is this? Oh yeah, and the drivers
Speaker 1: were subjecting them to hell yeah, it just sucks that
Speaker 1: they're lost. Leader is like the most artistically valid thing
Speaker 1: that they were creating as a studio. I feel like
Speaker 1: in in Pixar movies, like they're just like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: will just like throw the slop out to the kiddies,
Speaker 1: and by treating it like that, because apparently I was
Speaker 1: listening to like an industry watcher talk about how even
Speaker 1: though these movies could make a lot at the box office,
Speaker 1: the most valuable thing to them is stock price, and
Speaker 1: the only thing that draws drive stock price is subscriber numbers.
Speaker 1: It's not like if you have a hit at the
Speaker 1: box office. So now they're basically all they care about
Speaker 1: is driving like Disney plus subscription numbers. So they're going
Speaker 1: to like not even release some of these things into
Speaker 1: movie theaters even when movie theaters open back up. It's
Speaker 1: so grim that the world is being run by old
Speaker 1: white guys who are just running around following maths right exactly,
Speaker 1: all in the name of fucking shareholder value. Like even
Speaker 1: now we have things, they're just like no, no, no,
Speaker 1: what do you kid me. You're gonna put a movie
Speaker 1: in a movie theater where people are gonna go, and
Speaker 1: you'll make millions, possibly billions of dollars. No, no, not
Speaker 1: fam We need to We need the subscriber numbers to
Speaker 1: go up so these fucking day traders and everybody else
Speaker 1: who are in on our stock, then they can feel good.
Speaker 1: That's what we're in the business for. We're no longer
Speaker 1: Disney other thing to watch a movie, and he will
Speaker 1: watch a movie once in a day. But all right,
Speaker 1: that's gonna do it. For this week's weekly Zeitgeist. Please
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