Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season one, Episode two
Speaker 1: of The Days eight Guys. That's the production of My
Speaker 1: Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take a
Speaker 1: deep dive into America's shared consciousness. It's Tuesday, July one.
Speaker 1: My name is Jack O'Brien, a k A. Listen to
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Speaker 1: courtesy of Rob Cunningham and I'm thrilled to be joined
Speaker 1: as always by my co host, Mr Miles Grab that's right.
Speaker 1: Winner of the gold medal in the one meter blunt
Speaker 1: smoking from North Hollywood at the Tokyovid Olympic Games. It
Speaker 1: is Hideo NoHo. Thanks for having me. I'm so excited
Speaker 1: about the Olympic Games in my other mother country. It's
Speaker 1: going to be so exciting and terrifying at the same
Speaker 1: Thank you for thanking me for having you on your
Speaker 1: own podcasts. It's a it's a habit I have. It
Speaker 1: really just really feel like I'm I'm really some special quing. Hey,
Speaker 1: you earned a kid, you arenanks Man, Thanks so exactly.
Speaker 1: Blunt Smoking you're smoking a exactly you've seen. You know,
Speaker 1: it sounds if anybody could do it. I think I
Speaker 1: think you could. You're the man for the joke. There's
Speaker 1: there are some allegations that I was on performance enhancing
Speaker 1: drugs during my gold medal run, and you know that
Speaker 1: can be decided. But I'm sorry, the event itself is
Speaker 1: smoking weeds. So I don't know what they want me
Speaker 1: to say. Well, Miles, we are thrilled to be joined
Speaker 1: in our third seat by the very talented writer, actor,
Speaker 1: producer and the host of the We Need to Talk
Speaker 1: About Brittany podcast, Jen Zabrawski. Hi, well, can well again?
Speaker 1: Where were you coming to us from? We're on God's
Speaker 1: Green are you? I am coming to you straight from
Speaker 1: the home of myself and Laurel Canyon. That's where I
Speaker 1: am today. Yea beautiful, beautiful love to see you. They
Speaker 1: do is doing great, you know, we really they kept
Speaker 1: it going during this time, and it actually feels like
Speaker 1: very European. It's a it's an Italian restaurant in Laurel Canyon,
Speaker 1: and they moved everything outside and they closed down the
Speaker 1: street and they put tables out there, and so it
Speaker 1: actually feels like you're you know, you're up against the
Speaker 1: wall of the dry cleaners, and it's kind of European
Speaker 1: in a way. It's like you're you're like out on
Speaker 1: a street. Which street did they close the one that's
Speaker 1: between Loyal Canyon and that little side street that the
Speaker 1: cheaters take to go to try and beat the traffic?
Speaker 1: You know it? You know, I know it. Think I
Speaker 1: always look at that and I'm like, those guys are cheating,
Speaker 1: and you're gonna get stuck at the stop sign, when
Speaker 1: the traffic when somebody turns off, When somebody like gets
Speaker 1: stuck behind me and then like turns off into a
Speaker 1: side street, it's a race. It's immediately a race between
Speaker 1: me and them too, because they're going through the alleyways
Speaker 1: and I'm just trying to cut them off at every
Speaker 1: past And that's stupid, that's very dumbe. What your license
Speaker 1: got red? Yeah, I will. I will blow through a
Speaker 1: red light to make sure that they don't get get
Speaker 1: in front of me. Shut But it feels very so
Speaker 1: like it's it's a it's a nice al fresco situation
Speaker 1: out there. I don't know why I'm asking the most
Speaker 1: specific reference about Laurel canyon for maybe three percent of
Speaker 1: our listeners that will understand that. Well of the listeners
Speaker 1: come on down to Pat, you know, just like and
Speaker 1: actually fun fact, the owner of Pat Guys we're getting
Speaker 1: into like real pom. He the guy who owns that restaurant.
Speaker 1: He lived in this house, like when he opened the restaurant.
Speaker 1: Look at that, Look at that? Yeah a lore. Yeah,
Speaker 1: It's almost like we did a pre interview for this
Speaker 1: and we didn't. That's how good this podcast is. It
Speaker 1: just happens like that happens stories no one will care about.
Speaker 1: Our local Italian restaurant material is unparalleled. All right, Well, Jen,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get to know you a little bit better
Speaker 1: in a moment. First, we're gonna tell our listeners a
Speaker 1: few of the things we're talking about. The Olympics continue
Speaker 1: to be a problem, The delta wave is real. We're
Speaker 1: gonna ask what what are we considering an infection because
Speaker 1: there seems to be a big difference between the people
Speaker 1: who got vaccinated the people who didn't. We're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about that Israeli surveillance software that has been revealed to
Speaker 1: be a tool that authoritarians are able to use to
Speaker 1: hack journalists activists, lawyers, basically like good guys, the good
Speaker 1: guys in the world. What are the are there was
Speaker 1: this guy? Who's this guy? We're gonna say our I
Speaker 1: p to salad bars. We're gonna talk about Brittany. Her
Speaker 1: bodyguard came out and just dropped some more details of
Speaker 1: just her hardcore old boy existence when she was continues
Speaker 1: to be under basically like house arrest by her dad.
Speaker 1: But then there's also an interesting thing where she the
Speaker 1: X cop bodyguard security guy was like and then she
Speaker 1: would go all sorts of crazy and start talking parallel universes,
Speaker 1: which is actually like Proponents of the multiverse hypothesis include
Speaker 1: Stephen Hawking, Neil de grasse Tyson, but we won't hold
Speaker 1: that against it. So Britney Spears maybe went extra super
Speaker 1: duper like galaxy brain and people need to come around
Speaker 1: to that. All of that plenty more. But first, Jim,
Speaker 1: we like to ask our guests, what is something from
Speaker 1: your search history? Guys, I'm looking for an interesting floor lamp,
Speaker 1: and that truly was the last thing I searched for.
Speaker 1: It's a floor lamp I'm I'm looking to put right
Speaker 1: beside the desk I'm sitting at right now. And uh,
Speaker 1: I'm just looking at all kinds of lamps. I don't
Speaker 1: want just an average lamp. I'm looking for something a
Speaker 1: little special. And you know what, the arc lamp that
Speaker 1: everyone's got these days, it's too much, too much, too
Speaker 1: much real estate, much real estate. I don't want to
Speaker 1: bump my head. I don't want to deal with it falling,
Speaker 1: you know, like I'm looking for I'm like into I mean,
Speaker 1: we spend so much time at home, so now I'm
Speaker 1: really looking to you know, up, I man, I rearranged
Speaker 1: all the furniture. Did you guys like do any of
Speaker 1: that weird stuff? Last year? I put Christmas lights up
Speaker 1: very early. That was like the one weird thing. I
Speaker 1: was like, bring the twinklies inside. I like that. You're like,
Speaker 1: let's put a little something, you know, like let's warm
Speaker 1: up the area. Let's like, you know, remind ourselves of
Speaker 1: perhaps like a holiday, like you know, I like that
Speaker 1: your ancestor communicate to you through the Christmas lights right
Speaker 1: from the Yeah, exactly. And I have all the letters
Speaker 1: set up underneath. Pretty cool. I mean my partner, her majesty,
Speaker 1: she's a little spooked out by it, but I'm telling
Speaker 1: her there's secrets that we gotta understand that. I've been
Speaker 1: noticing a lot of yard sales in my neighborhood and
Speaker 1: our family is going through a all around. Like we
Speaker 1: we have six bags of like old baby clothes and
Speaker 1: like just toys that we don't need anymore, and then
Speaker 1: like a bunch of stuff from ten years ago that
Speaker 1: books and stuff that we're just trying to figure out
Speaker 1: what to do with. Probably donate them. But yeah, we are.
Speaker 1: We are in the middle of a intensive purge. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I love a good purge. I love a good purge.
Speaker 1: I love going under beds, deep in drawers like I
Speaker 1: live for that. I'm incapable of that. I just consolidate
Speaker 1: and put into a corner. Yeah, it's called hoarding. But
Speaker 1: you just never know when someone's gonna need of, you know,
Speaker 1: like I told you a Mookie Blaylock rookie card, that's true, yeah,
Speaker 1: or Stacy Ogman rookie card when when you signed with
Speaker 1: the Atlanta Fox. I mean there's a lot of cards
Speaker 1: and and and POGs as well. I have lava tubes
Speaker 1: of all the old those old POGs from the early nineties,
Speaker 1: those milk games. You don't have, you, Oh, if you
Speaker 1: check my mother my mother's garage. My mother's garage is
Speaker 1: like a fucking time capsule. But she blessed her heart
Speaker 1: because she I learned from the best in terms of
Speaker 1: not throwing it away, but like in an organized way,
Speaker 1: because like my mom knows here everything is. I'm like,
Speaker 1: where's that old where's that old promotional badge from the
Speaker 1: Sean Claude Van Damn movie Time Cop that you got?
Speaker 1: She's like, it's over there in this box. Yeah that,
Speaker 1: I mean that rules I got. Can I free you
Speaker 1: by telling you pugs are never coming back and with
Speaker 1: that get easier for you to part with them or
Speaker 1: it just doesn't matter. I don't know, Jack, We'll see man.
Speaker 1: And you know what, though, Miles, I feel like, don't
Speaker 1: let that sway you, because there is a thing like
Speaker 1: all of a sudden when you're like, okay, I'm freeing
Speaker 1: myself of this, I'm getting rid of this thing. That
Speaker 1: that's the moment, like the next day is when someone
Speaker 1: will ask you for yes exactly, Hey, buddy, I got
Speaker 1: ten grand for some condition. Got any sorry? Has anyone
Speaker 1: seen my Stacy amand Rookie Card I'm gonna be killed
Speaker 1: if they're all just terrible paper goods, Right, Jim, what
Speaker 1: is something you think is overrated? Okay, this is this
Speaker 1: could be very controversial, but just hear me out. Just
Speaker 1: hear me out. Lately, I've been taking not like intermented
Speaker 1: breaks from drinking alcohol, and if I do it for
Speaker 1: like five days, I'm like, I think drinking might be
Speaker 1: overrated because I also like and I don't like the
Speaker 1: idea of a mock tail, but like I put a
Speaker 1: drink that doesn't have alcohol in it in a wine
Speaker 1: or a cocktail glass like I do all the like
Speaker 1: the ritual things, like I like I take out like yeah,
Speaker 1: all the bar wear, and I like put in like
Speaker 1: good crushed ice, and then I take like a flavored
Speaker 1: pellegrino or something and like cut a lime wedge and
Speaker 1: then and then I'm just like cruising. And then I
Speaker 1: wake up in the morning and I'm like, I feel
Speaker 1: like right as rain, I'm ready to go. There you go.
Speaker 1: So it's maybe so is it the ritual? Then it
Speaker 1: sounds like that you really like of like the preparation
Speaker 1: more than what you're doing. Yeah, yeah, like haven't yeah,
Speaker 1: just like having taking a moment and like okay, like
Speaker 1: I'm enjoying myself, like having a good time, and it's
Speaker 1: still like when I'm like I need a drink, It's like, okay,
Speaker 1: I need I still need a drink. It just doesn't
Speaker 1: mean that like alcohol needs to be in it. This
Speaker 1: is like if my parents were this conversation, they would
Speaker 1: they would just be like, I never want to talk
Speaker 1: to you again. I can't believe like raised her to
Speaker 1: say this, but my parents literally called their house Camp Cocktail.
Speaker 1: So whoa, oh they have merged. They like they make merge. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: and listen, I know that we just met, but you
Speaker 1: are both invited to Yeah to Pam and Josebrowski's lake
Speaker 1: house Cocktown, where, of course it's a lake house. It's
Speaker 1: a lake house. It's in upstate New York in the
Speaker 1: Adirondack Mountains. It's like a tiny like it's it's it's
Speaker 1: way up there and it's just long. Has it been camped?
Speaker 1: Like did you grow up in this place being called
Speaker 1: Camp Cocktail? Or is this more of a latter day?
Speaker 1: The energy, the spirit of Camp Cocktail was always there
Speaker 1: even as a child, but I would say it was
Speaker 1: probably like maybe fifteen years ago now that they started
Speaker 1: referring to it as that. And then they went to
Speaker 1: get a sign made and they were should it say
Speaker 1: Zebrowski or should it say camp Cocktail? And my mom
Speaker 1: was like, we can't. We can't go down this, like
Speaker 1: it's gotta say it's gotta say Zebrowski, Like we gonna
Speaker 1: say we can't let people know our names from what
Speaker 1: are you talking about? But it's great, Yeah Christmas, they
Speaker 1: roll out the merch so you can like get ready
Speaker 1: for summertime. I love the energy of like when someone's like, no, man,
Speaker 1: this is a brand now, and making merch is like
Speaker 1: that's fully, that's like a full commitment. I mean I
Speaker 1: used to call the backhouse of where my mom lives
Speaker 1: where like that would be like my scumbag layer. Like
Speaker 1: in high school and college, I used to call that
Speaker 1: Club Miles, but I never had merch. I thought it
Speaker 1: was gonna be like the blunt bungalow or something Miles,
Speaker 1: because that's you know, like when you would get I
Speaker 1: would get off work at my laser tag job and
Speaker 1: like you know, I had like that spot where we
Speaker 1: could get wild. They're like, yo, man, school Club Miles.
Speaker 1: We're going to Club Miles. You worked at a laser
Speaker 1: tag place and then you had the spot that everyone
Speaker 1: called Club Miles like you Wow, You're like you were,
Speaker 1: You're the man. You were really like you know the
Speaker 1: early ots for my time. What can I say? You know,
Speaker 1: the best of times. It was the worst of times,
Speaker 1: but I focus on the best of them. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I would have a polo shirt that said game Master
Speaker 1: on because that's like when you referee the laser tag games.
Speaker 1: So it just being me and a bunch of people
Speaker 1: in black ultra zone polos, you know, just embibing. And
Speaker 1: you were and you were a hardcore right like you
Speaker 1: are a very expressive and strict ref Is that correct?
Speaker 1: You know? I don't like I don't like working around.
Speaker 1: When I say the rules, you follow them. Because there
Speaker 1: was a thing you could carry around. It's called Determinator
Speaker 1: and it was like this TV remote that you could
Speaker 1: just fuck somebody's game up from long distance. You'd be like,
Speaker 1: stopped running gamester doesn't work. I'm like, maybe your eyes
Speaker 1: don't work, bro, because I said no running and it's
Speaker 1: it's a flash all over here. Is just such an
Speaker 1: aggressive like title for the thing and sort of like staff,
Speaker 1: especially for like high teenagers that don't care, but like whatever,
Speaker 1: then we'll find moments to really like like really lean
Speaker 1: into it. What is something jen that you think is underrated? Okay,
Speaker 1: I've got one, which is robes. Robes robes, you guys.
Speaker 1: A robe is the most relaxing of all pieces of
Speaker 1: fabric that can like, it's better than a blanket. It's better.
Speaker 1: It's like a whole. It's an energy, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Yeah, absolutely, I love I just I was
Speaker 1: talking about this recently, and I know some of the
Speaker 1: listeners followed my robe advice because that's how I get
Speaker 1: out of the shower now. Is like I have a
Speaker 1: bathrobe that I just that I walk into rather than
Speaker 1: using a towel. Oh, you don't even dry off before
Speaker 1: because I like airy cloth bathrobe, So I like, my
Speaker 1: I can just like I grab it. I'm still in
Speaker 1: the shower. The second it touches your skin, it's already
Speaker 1: starting to absorb everything on your back, your legs, your arms,
Speaker 1: And then I'm like, oh, this is way more efficient
Speaker 1: and you feel more cozy. Yeah, there's robes for everything too,
Speaker 1: Like I like what you're talking about, the robe right
Speaker 1: when you get out of the shower. There's also like
Speaker 1: you can go with a silk robe to like add
Speaker 1: a real Like, guys, you see what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: I love a robe, a drink, a moment, like floor lamps,
Speaker 1: like I'm from getting the whole vibe, getting energy. I
Speaker 1: didn't even realize I was that much into a vibe
Speaker 1: until I started talking to you guys today. But yeah,
Speaker 1: like a silk robe. I always travel with a robe
Speaker 1: to Like I'll go to Target and just find like
Speaker 1: like a little you know, cotton robe that I can
Speaker 1: like always pack in my suitcase in case, you know,
Speaker 1: you're staying at somebody else's house or like whatever you're like,
Speaker 1: you just there's robes for all seasons. There's a winter robe,
Speaker 1: spring robe, summer robe. Like I'm into it. The silk robe.
Speaker 1: I just whenever I hear that, I can I can't
Speaker 1: stop thinking about Alfred Molina's character and Boogie Nights, Rod Jackson,
Speaker 1: that drug dealer who was just in the silk robe
Speaker 1: the whole time, just like I was just gonna say,
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, white guys, I think shouldn't
Speaker 1: wear robes. I think that's the one, Like Eric Saltz
Speaker 1: and Pope fiction. Alfred Molina and boogie nights. Like I
Speaker 1: feel like it's just not like me when I'm unshaven
Speaker 1: and wearing a bathrobe, like unless it's like a real big, luxurious,
Speaker 1: thick bathrobe. Like if it's just a you know, threadbare bathrobe,
Speaker 1: just a normal bathrobe, and I'm looking unshaven, I look
Speaker 1: like ship. I look like people are like, oh man,
Speaker 1: how long have you been out of work? Like that's
Speaker 1: just the immediate impression that you give people. But like,
Speaker 1: I can't like you guys both. I can picture you
Speaker 1: guys in bathrobes and you would look amazing. I think
Speaker 1: it's just like I think about middle aged, unshaven white
Speaker 1: guy that it doesn't work for. I'm jen I have
Speaker 1: context robes of situational robes, because I have one that's
Speaker 1: more just for like scumbaggery, like because like when it
Speaker 1: gets cold in the house, you know, we don't really
Speaker 1: our homes don't heat well. So I have like a
Speaker 1: huge fleece robe with a hood that I wear to
Speaker 1: like just stay warm. Right, But I've been I don't
Speaker 1: know if have y'all seen been getting served the most
Speaker 1: aggressive robe ads on Instagram for this thing called off.
Speaker 1: I don't mean to do an ad for them. But
Speaker 1: it's like the biggest chunky robe I've ever seen, and
Speaker 1: like Instagram comes like you want this, man, It's called
Speaker 1: off hours, you want this, and I'm like cool, it's
Speaker 1: like three bucks on my for a rope. No, I
Speaker 1: can't wait to find out if I have now been targeted,
Speaker 1: if I'll start getting the ad for that robe. I haven't.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen this rope. There is like there's a
Speaker 1: good you should everyone should also have like a depressive robe,
Speaker 1: like what you're saying, like where when it's cold, like
Speaker 1: your like your trash robe, you know, Like so I
Speaker 1: know I feel like taking out the garbage robes. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: absolutely absolutely. It's also Bill Murray and Lost in Translation,
Speaker 1: which is another bathrobe that is meant to imply depression.
Speaker 1: I just think that people at some point figured out,
Speaker 1: like if you put a like forty plus white guy
Speaker 1: in a robe, it's gonna it's going to communicate depression.
Speaker 1: Like immediately, there was a robe I threw out after
Speaker 1: I was fully vaccinated where I was like that robe
Speaker 1: represents some dark times in my life. I will I
Speaker 1: will not be keeping that robe as a as a momentum. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not. I mean even like you know in Lebowski
Speaker 1: Jeff when he goes to the grocery store. Fucking even
Speaker 1: like with the Tyler Dirton and fight Club, there's a
Speaker 1: moment where you've got that pink robe on that's like
Speaker 1: a kind of on the edge, Like, Okay, that's kind
Speaker 1: of cool because it's Tyler Dirton. Yeah, if you're a
Speaker 1: Brad Pitt, that's a good look. O. Bro, what about
Speaker 1: that robe? What the boxing robe? Yeah, when you get
Speaker 1: in the ring, bro, Yeah, I mean that's you if
Speaker 1: you have the rocky robe and it's not like, you know,
Speaker 1: worn out, if it's like shiny and looks new. Hell yeah, man,
Speaker 1: you're talking. It seems like you have a worn out
Speaker 1: rocky robe that you are it looks good. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The I mean with the hood, I think that you
Speaker 1: can get away with a lot, you know, rocking the
Speaker 1: I just actually do the Mike Tyson cut a hole
Speaker 1: on a white towel and wear that around the yeah, poncho. Alright,
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and we'll be right back
Speaker 1: and talk about some news. And we're back and yeah,
Speaker 1: the hits just coming for the Tokyo Olympics more just
Speaker 1: bad news all around. Last week we talked about how
Speaker 1: the starting shooting guard for the USA basketball team is
Speaker 1: going to miss the game's Bradley Beal, because he's in
Speaker 1: the COVID protocol. Now Cocoa Golf, who is the highest
Speaker 1: ranking member of the US tennis team headed to Tokyo,
Speaker 1: is not going to be able to play because of COVID. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just like and it sucks, you know, it's like so
Speaker 1: many people. Now this is on top of like we're
Speaker 1: also hearing that an alternate on the US women's gymnastics
Speaker 1: team is also having to isolate after testing positive, and
Speaker 1: like that team is like get someone biles out of here,
Speaker 1: like just to make sure she is absolutely able to participate.
Speaker 1: So like, uh, this alternate named Kara Eaker, And this
Speaker 1: is on the heels of again, this is just a
Speaker 1: report of what we're hereing. Quote. Organized of the Games
Speaker 1: reported more than two dozen people who travel to Japan
Speaker 1: for the Olympics have tested positive this weekend. Most concerning
Speaker 1: of all is that cases were detected within the athletes village,
Speaker 1: where thousands of people will be staying. Yeah. Uh, the
Speaker 1: Olympics start Friday, and there's like even if you go
Speaker 1: to the Olympics website, there's a special section. It's like
Speaker 1: there's like a PDF that's updated daily with like new
Speaker 1: COVID infections, so you can check out what's like a
Speaker 1: running count. And you're like, so, there's just no way
Speaker 1: that you can put thousands of people in one place
Speaker 1: right now, from all over the world and expect for
Speaker 1: it to not be a disaster. I mean that being said,
Speaker 1: the Olympic village is a notoriously chased and a social
Speaker 1: environment where people aren't just constantly having sex with one
Speaker 1: another all over the place, constantly everywhere, so should be fine.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I think that is the case. The most
Speaker 1: like social and uh sex positive environment maybe in Western
Speaker 1: culture just rock hard bodies just going around. It's just
Speaker 1: very exciting. I feel like we just like culturally we're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you guys should have sex with each other, Like I
Speaker 1: don't care if you're married, Like that's that's great. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because it's like superhero breeding or something like could you
Speaker 1: imagine this like power Lifter and this cler like what
Speaker 1: it's like all the Marvel It's like the Marvel universe
Speaker 1: and like we're putting them all like the most attractive,
Speaker 1: like like our heroes, Like we're putting them all in
Speaker 1: one place, like it's and they have essentially visually their
Speaker 1: sports specialty. It's like, yeah, you can't stop. But the
Speaker 1: other thing is like, you know, there's eleven thousand athletes,
Speaker 1: right and like the with like the athletes and their
Speaker 1: coaches that are coming, and then there's thousands more who
Speaker 1: are the officials. So and like we're already hearing reports
Speaker 1: of pool like being like, oh, I have to go
Speaker 1: into isolation because on my flight, apparently I was in contact.
Speaker 1: There was like like contact tracing led us to believe
Speaker 1: that we were in contact with someone who was infected.
Speaker 1: And you're gonna have eleven thousand people. It's just really,
Speaker 1: I don't know, like it's just so unfair. Right, As
Speaker 1: an athlete, you're like I'm already putting myself at risk
Speaker 1: for infection, but also like potentially even if I'm asymptomatic
Speaker 1: and am infected, I can't participate in something that's like
Speaker 1: my life's work. And it's like it's so again aside
Speaker 1: from all the stupidity of like the government funding that's
Speaker 1: thrown around to have these games, but like to also
Speaker 1: keep these people from being able to compete and like
Speaker 1: and insisting that the games go on is just it
Speaker 1: like puts an awful, awful filter, retinge over these these games. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So the officials you're talking about, like the people who
Speaker 1: are officiating the events are in the Olympic village. I
Speaker 1: don't know if they're in the village, but they're Jason,
Speaker 1: But I mean, like, this is what we're just talking about,
Speaker 1: thousands and thousands of people having to enter Like whether
Speaker 1: that's like those are the people who are like talking
Speaker 1: to people before like they compete in their event before
Speaker 1: a diving event or sprinting event or whatever, like all
Speaker 1: of those people talking. It's just and it's also too
Speaker 1: I think we forget that. You know, in America, it's
Speaker 1: a choice right now whether or not you get vaccinated,
Speaker 1: and the whole world is not given access to the vaccination.
Speaker 1: So it's like so many of these people coming in
Speaker 1: to work to participate in the Olympics are not vaccinated
Speaker 1: because they don't have access to it, right Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so I don't so I guess nothing here. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: would you have absolute huge dice roll? And unfortunately you
Speaker 1: I hate to think about it, but someone could get
Speaker 1: really sick, you know, who's just there to participate pay
Speaker 1: and because of the insistence of having these games in
Speaker 1: the middle of a pandemic, could end up in like
Speaker 1: really terrible outcomes for people. And it's just really it's
Speaker 1: just like fucked up. It's I don't know how like
Speaker 1: how much more you can do to make these like
Speaker 1: worse because on top of that, like the city of
Speaker 1: Tokyo is already like in a state of emergency. They're saying,
Speaker 1: like if they test the like the bay where the
Speaker 1: triathlon is gonna happen, like, I don't know, man, the
Speaker 1: pollution could be really bad in the in the bay
Speaker 1: also likely, Yeah, dude, was mostly COVID. It was due
Speaker 1: in nineteen in one of the Paralympic games that were happening,
Speaker 1: or like a triathlon event that is happening there. The
Speaker 1: people were like, dude, you can't swim here. It's got
Speaker 1: two times the level V Coli that we can allow
Speaker 1: people to like, you know, swim in this with their
Speaker 1: open mouths. So no, you know, so I think right
Speaker 1: now what they're having to do is like treat all
Speaker 1: of this water before it gets to the bay and
Speaker 1: it's just like adding all the complications on complications and
Speaker 1: it's it's like what else do you fucking need to happen? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's especially like US basketball was probably flying private, but
Speaker 1: I can't imagine like all of the athletes are flying
Speaker 1: over there like on private jets. Right, So like that's
Speaker 1: not great. All right, Let's talk about the Delta wave
Speaker 1: because it seems like, I mean, it's clear that the
Speaker 1: Delta variant is causing many infections and it's the driving
Speaker 1: force behind this new big wave in the US and
Speaker 1: basically everywhere. The UK, even though they just opened up,
Speaker 1: are seeing a surge in cases. But we're also seeing
Speaker 1: that the vaccines like work. Yeah, the vaccines work, and
Speaker 1: most vacts people are not symptomatic or they're experiencing very
Speaker 1: mild symptoms. And like when you look at the numbers
Speaker 1: of like people in the high hospital, percentage of people
Speaker 1: in the hospital who have been vaccinated, it's like really low.
Speaker 1: And when you look at the cases of people who die,
Speaker 1: it's like five of the people who die are un vaccinated.
Speaker 1: So it's just the vaccine fucking works, and we're still
Speaker 1: treating people have been vaccinated and get get the virus,
Speaker 1: but like aren't symptomatic the same as we treat people
Speaker 1: who aren't vaccinated, right, Yeah, And it just seems like
Speaker 1: there's a there's a big debate going on with public
Speaker 1: health officials to even understand like we need more nuanced
Speaker 1: data to even know like who's a person with COVID,
Speaker 1: what if they were hospitalized or not. I mean there
Speaker 1: is that stuff is out there, but it's not actually
Speaker 1: being I'm sure people are now working to put it
Speaker 1: all together to really analyze what's happening. But you know this,
Speaker 1: these infections are really causing this debate more to say,
Speaker 1: like what what do we need to do in terms
Speaker 1: of our policy and public health policies to understand and
Speaker 1: like if we have people who aren't ending up in
Speaker 1: the hospital, are only having mild symptoms like we want
Speaker 1: so it's not causing hospitalizations or death, what then do
Speaker 1: we need to do to actually make sure we're a
Speaker 1: putting the right resources towards the right things rather than
Speaker 1: just like testing like people who are not you know,
Speaker 1: been vaccinated and may have mild symptoms, like if that's
Speaker 1: a if that's a worthwhile resource spend if they can
Speaker 1: be focused elsewhere and a lot of the positives that
Speaker 1: they get from people who are vaccinated, they sort of
Speaker 1: break down like this, Uh, this is from this article
Speaker 1: and Talking Points memo says COVID quote. COVID can briefly
Speaker 1: take hold and reproducing a person's nasal cavity and upper
Speaker 1: respiratory system before being knocked down by effective vaccines That
Speaker 1: will produce a positive result on a PCR test. So
Speaker 1: it's essentially saying that the viral load that is like
Speaker 1: sort of being seen in the PCR test will be
Speaker 1: like reduced by the vaccinations, but if it picks it up,
Speaker 1: it picks up this viral genetic material. There's some doctors
Speaker 1: like this is not infection. Is what's called colonization, and
Speaker 1: so it's exposure that actually stimulates immune response versus you know,
Speaker 1: what we're dealing with is like what about the people
Speaker 1: who are unvaccinated and are you know, still socializing in
Speaker 1: their unvaccinated communities. Those seem to be bigger threats to
Speaker 1: safety than vaccinated people who are merely asymptomatic and are
Speaker 1: just testing positive. So it's causing like, it's just all
Speaker 1: these there's so much we're still trying to figure out
Speaker 1: and learn but at the same time, people like, what's fair?
Speaker 1: What makes sense? Does it make sense to say this
Speaker 1: person can't compete in Olympics even if they're not a
Speaker 1: danger to themselves or other people? But then we're still
Speaker 1: trying to figure out how much of a danger that is.
Speaker 1: So it just leaves a lot of questions. It can
Speaker 1: still spread, right, even if it's just colonizing your nose,
Speaker 1: but it hasn't like fully infected your body, Like you
Speaker 1: can still spread it to somebody who's not vaccinated, right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: But I think that's where they want more research to
Speaker 1: to understand, like what what are the like the full
Speaker 1: sort of in a diagnostic sense, what are the risk
Speaker 1: factors in involved with that kind of transmission and what
Speaker 1: isn't And you know, I think we're just we're still
Speaker 1: very much in the mindset of like, oh, someone has COVID.
Speaker 1: That's an infection, that's a number on the board, even
Speaker 1: though we see as as experts say, it's decoupling the
Speaker 1: connection from getting infected and being hospitalized or potentially you know,
Speaker 1: passing away, right, which is kind of suppressing the data
Speaker 1: on behalf of the vaccine, right, because you know, you'll
Speaker 1: see numbers going up in places that are largely vaccinated
Speaker 1: because of these like sort of colonization things. But then
Speaker 1: when in places like you know, the south of the
Speaker 1: United States are seeing numbers spike up, and also people
Speaker 1: aren't really vaccinated, so it's like more serious, right, And
Speaker 1: it also like kind of de emphasizes the importance of
Speaker 1: getting vaccinative. And that's the thing. Like in Arkansas, the
Speaker 1: governor there, in the beginning of the pandemic signed a
Speaker 1: bill that reduced his own powers to like mandate things
Speaker 1: like mask wearing, and he's now like being like, yeah, folks,
Speaker 1: you gotta get vaccinated. But he's also handcuffed himself with
Speaker 1: this like stupid Trumpian gesture he made at the beginning
Speaker 1: of lockdown to be like, I'm not gonna you know,
Speaker 1: we have forced people to do anything, so I'm going
Speaker 1: to pass this sort of like measure to say a
Speaker 1: governor can't do that. And now he's just like all
Speaker 1: he can do is just beg people now to get vaccinated.
Speaker 1: As you know, the rates go higher and higher. It's
Speaker 1: just it's just a very odd situation. And do you
Speaker 1: guys live in l A mhmm, yeah, I mean so
Speaker 1: now we're also back to wearing masks. It's just I mean,
Speaker 1: and also it's my understanding, like we could if you're vaccinated,
Speaker 1: you can still get COVID, especially the delta variant, and
Speaker 1: you you might have symptoms, you might get really sick,
Speaker 1: Like I mean, that's those cases there are are few and
Speaker 1: far between, and I mean it's I just finally went out,
Speaker 1: like back into the world. Family came to visit, and
Speaker 1: I was at restaurants and just just out and then
Speaker 1: I got sick. And I was pretty confident that it
Speaker 1: was just like a cold, because it felt it felt
Speaker 1: like a cold. I was like, oh, since memory, I
Speaker 1: know what this is. I haven't been sick in over
Speaker 1: a year. But because I had just spent time with
Speaker 1: all of these people who I love so dearly, I
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, I'm gonna go get tested. And it
Speaker 1: was more the anxiety of like, am I vaccinated and
Speaker 1: I'm still getting freaking COVID Like it's and that's just
Speaker 1: the the I don't know if we'll ever get on
Speaker 1: the same page as a whole too. I think that
Speaker 1: this it just might be this piecemeal kind of existence
Speaker 1: and not to even say to to say it and uh.
Speaker 1: I mean, of course I'm frustrated, and I'm sure you know,
Speaker 1: so many people are, but it's just kind of like
Speaker 1: also trying to have radical acceptance of the of this situation, yeah,
Speaker 1: which is tough when like the part of that chaos
Speaker 1: is like, you know, potentially deadly outcomes and then trying
Speaker 1: to navigate things like okay, well I'm backing it, am
Speaker 1: I Okay, But then you look at, you know, the
Speaker 1: real numbers, and you're like, well, statistically, like a lot
Speaker 1: of people in this room probably aren't if I'm just
Speaker 1: looking purely at the math of it all. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it feels like I think like a lot of people
Speaker 1: in saying like since like for the last two weeks,
Speaker 1: like it feels like we're headed for another lockdown, given
Speaker 1: like how so many places are opening up the way
Speaker 1: they're opening up, like completely acting like it's twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1: In some instances, you look at, you know, like in
Speaker 1: the UK where it's like their Freedom Day was Monday
Speaker 1: and the clubs were just packed, and like the numbers
Speaker 1: like forty five thousand new cases a day, which are
Speaker 1: like mimics like the worst wave, but hospitalizations are low,
Speaker 1: so it's like you know, we're in this sort of
Speaker 1: new phase, and I think that's sort of what a
Speaker 1: lot of the write ups were about, especially when vaccinations
Speaker 1: were becoming more popular in the delta variant was popping up.
Speaker 1: It's like, it's just going to be these weird, well
Speaker 1: not weird, just these localized spikes, but with the potential
Speaker 1: to destabilize the entirely entire regions because the strain on
Speaker 1: like public health services could be so bad. Well, speaking
Speaker 1: of the vaccine becoming more popular, we're we're starting to
Speaker 1: see a little bit of a one eight on behalf
Speaker 1: of one of our favorite news programs, Fox and Friends.
Speaker 1: We have a little clip from Fox and Friends is
Speaker 1: Monday morning broadcasts here for you. Steve Doocey is saying
Speaker 1: just saying a different tune apparently, and let's just check
Speaker 1: this out, and yes, this is from Fox and Friends.
Speaker 1: This what you're about to hear. One of the CDC
Speaker 1: officials said yesterday, Look, the pandemic right now is really
Speaker 1: just with people who have not been vaccinated than the
Speaker 1: people who have died have not been vaccinated. And so
Speaker 1: what they're trying to do is they're trying to make
Speaker 1: sure that all the people who have not been vaccinated
Speaker 1: get vaccinated. And unfortunately, and this is one of the
Speaker 1: reasons apparently the Joe Biden administration came out last week.
Speaker 1: The administrations are very very frustrated. They have not been
Speaker 1: able to get Facebook to get rid of some of
Speaker 1: the disinformation. The disinformation is online. The vaccine is killing
Speaker 1: killing lots of lots of people, or it changes your
Speaker 1: DNA or their little microchips. None of that is true, right,
Speaker 1: And so that's why you have in Washington this continuous
Speaker 1: message and this information, and the Surgeon General I didn't know.
Speaker 1: It just goes on to basically like, y'all get the
Speaker 1: vaccine because it will save your life. And everyone's like, wait,
Speaker 1: what you guys have been spending your whole lives the
Speaker 1: spreading and the fact that they treated that as if
Speaker 1: this is new information we're just finding out about. Apparently
Speaker 1: there's a vaccine, and so this is spreading among people
Speaker 1: who don't get the vaccine. Apparently kill me said exactly,
Speaker 1: and like threw his hands up, like we've been trying
Speaker 1: to tell y'all, but he misunderstands, so upset, just shaking
Speaker 1: his head, just biting his tongue. Yeah, he hated that
Speaker 1: they were taught because right before that clip he killed
Speaker 1: me saying like the weirdest thing about essentially like the
Speaker 1: government's insistence is making people not want to get vaccinated,
Speaker 1: Like that was sort of the last point he made.
Speaker 1: And then Douce he's like, yeah, but here's the thing,
Speaker 1: Like it works and people are dying, and he's like exactly,
Speaker 1: and you're like, hold on, dude, you you're arguing, okay, whatever,
Speaker 1: kill meat. Wait. He was saying that the government like
Speaker 1: isn't being chill enough and that's why we're Yeah, he's like,
Speaker 1: people freedoms and you hear that from the government, it's
Speaker 1: gonna make people be like, heck, I want to be
Speaker 1: in charge of what I want to, like, you know,
Speaker 1: just sort of trying to give a rationalization for people
Speaker 1: who are being anti VAXX and not addressing the fact
Speaker 1: that their most popular program like spreads those exact conspirat
Speaker 1: c theories. The Tugger Carlson like talks about like I'm
Speaker 1: just asking questions here, folks, how many people are dying
Speaker 1: from the So he's not saying he's just asking questions
Speaker 1: on a very popular national news news and quotes program
Speaker 1: and you know, going around saying like they're gonna ask
Speaker 1: for door to door, you know, get people vaccinated, and
Speaker 1: just creating all this fear around like the administration trying
Speaker 1: to get people vaccinated. I mean part of me is like,
Speaker 1: are they like try do they feel that they're have
Speaker 1: a huge enough hand in this misinformation campaign? Is like
Speaker 1: a gigantic company that there could potentially be lawsuits for
Speaker 1: people saying like my family member was listening to Fox
Speaker 1: News and they were repeatedly saying, you don't need this,
Speaker 1: don't get the vaccine, and then they got really sick
Speaker 1: when they could have got it. And now I'm suing
Speaker 1: for damages. And now they're now they're being like, oh no,
Speaker 1: I mean like, look that we have, we have, we
Speaker 1: have a lot of people that are very forcefully saying
Speaker 1: it too. Like it's just I can't look at anything
Speaker 1: they do and think that it's ever for the right reasons. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, based on my legal degree, I think they
Speaker 1: can be suited for that. And you know that's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, Doug, I went to the law
Speaker 1: school of my cousin Vinny. I watched like dozens of
Speaker 1: times as a kid, so I think I know a
Speaker 1: thing or two. I thinking of what damages are. Right,
Speaker 1: thank you, Let's take a quick break and we'll come
Speaker 1: back and talk about just the Pandora's box that is
Speaker 1: modern technology. And we're back. And so, as our man
Speaker 1: on the street for the Daily Zygeis Steve Doocey, was
Speaker 1: pointing out, the Biden administration was blaming Facebook for, you know,
Speaker 1: not stopping the spread of disinformation misinformation about COVID vaccines.
Speaker 1: I think the Press Secretary pointed out that they're like
Speaker 1: twelve accounts that if they banned them would cut down
Speaker 1: disinformation by like six on Facebook, and they're just not
Speaker 1: willing to ban those accounts. And so it's just like, okay,
Speaker 1: so we we've kind of known social media is a
Speaker 1: bit of a Pandora's box once it opened, and like
Speaker 1: everybody is on equal footing in terms of sourcing and
Speaker 1: where we kind of became slightly fucked. There's an even
Speaker 1: better illustration of that with a technology from an Israeli
Speaker 1: surveillance firm. So they they have been selling this software
Speaker 1: to governments that they think our trustworthy. Unfortunately that includes
Speaker 1: uh Saudi Arabia, it includes a lot of they don't
Speaker 1: give the specific list of countries, which is how you
Speaker 1: know that it's probably full of good actors who we
Speaker 1: can assume are are using it responsibly. But basically this
Speaker 1: software allows them to they can just like pull all photos, emails,
Speaker 1: messages from your phone and also secretly activate your microphone,
Speaker 1: so they can turn your phone into a bugging device
Speaker 1: and it's just been used, you know. They so they
Speaker 1: got access to the phone numbers that we're in the
Speaker 1: database of, like people that they were interested in using
Speaker 1: this on a lot of activists, journalists who are trying
Speaker 1: to expose corruption, human rights lawyers. Uh. Specifically, a freelance
Speaker 1: Mexican reporter, Cecilio pinata Berto was found on the list.
Speaker 1: He was apparently of interest to a Mexican client and
Speaker 1: the weeks leading up to his murder when his killers
Speaker 1: were able to locate him at a car wash. So yeah,
Speaker 1: this is just fucked. This is and this is I mean,
Speaker 1: anyone can have access to this basically this Yeah, this
Speaker 1: makes all my friends who insist on not getting smartphones
Speaker 1: seem really smart. Yeah, are you gonna haveck this motor
Speaker 1: roll of star Tack from O two, Like, you're right,
Speaker 1: I don't know how and yeah, god, this it's just
Speaker 1: so funny, like like and yeah, we give it to
Speaker 1: company or countries and governments. We think, are you know,
Speaker 1: on the up and up? Like who I mean, No
Speaker 1: one's on the up and up. Nobody every I've been
Speaker 1: watching this show on it's now on Netflix, but it
Speaker 1: was a Sony Crackle show called Startup. And this is
Speaker 1: essentially the plot of the show. And it's get No
Speaker 1: one has great intentions, like anyone who has access to
Speaker 1: that much information will be using it for for evil,
Speaker 1: not good. And and it just makes me want to
Speaker 1: hide in a tiny cabin far far away, makes me
Speaker 1: want to head to Camp Cocktail. Do you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm there. I'll meet you there. Go to
Speaker 1: Camp Cocktail, pull the nice warm blanket up around your
Speaker 1: up to your chin, and just and we throw our
Speaker 1: iPhones in the lake exactly three here we go. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it again. I don't know anyone. I I mean,
Speaker 1: I get like in a in like the action movie,
Speaker 1: since like the quote unquote good guys would be able
Speaker 1: to find the quote unquote bad guys by using this technology.
Speaker 1: But all you're seeing, like so many articles have been
Speaker 1: written about just like journalists and like the wrong people.
Speaker 1: And you're like right, because this is again the balance
Speaker 1: of power. You don't want people out here advocating for
Speaker 1: the truth in a country that might be truth of verse,
Speaker 1: which seems to be a lot of places these days. Yeah,
Speaker 1: especially as we're kind of coming to terms with the
Speaker 1: misbehavior of a lot of the hyper wealthy institutions that
Speaker 1: are out there, Like this not not great that to
Speaker 1: the highest bidder, they will sell a thing that basically
Speaker 1: is like turns everybody into a spy on their loved
Speaker 1: ones essentially. Wait, it's for the highest bidder. I thought
Speaker 1: you said it was to trustworthy people. Well, trustworthy credit scores,
Speaker 1: they're checks don't bounce, that's what we mean. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's just funny. Like I feel like the hopefully this
Speaker 1: continues this trend of like back in whenever The Dark
Speaker 1: Knight came out, we like had a storyline where like
Speaker 1: Batman turned everybody's cell phones into like monitoring devices. We
Speaker 1: were like, hell, yeah, because we need to because of
Speaker 1: like controbal terrorism. And then now I feel like we've
Speaker 1: that that probably would work anymore. Yeah, well it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: everything is a surveillance network. Now because we don't want
Speaker 1: people reporting about illegal tax havens right right exactly the
Speaker 1: Panama papers. Who are you fighting? Though? Yeah? Yeah, it
Speaker 1: just feels like I mean that used to also be
Speaker 1: Facebook's argument was like ultimate transparency, because we like, if
Speaker 1: you have nothing to hide, why would you care about surveillance?
Speaker 1: And now I feel like we've seen through that just
Speaker 1: via all the bullshit that we've been putting up with
Speaker 1: for the past. Yeah, I mean, this is the new
Speaker 1: way of war. It's not like how it used to be,
Speaker 1: Like it's it's really not about who's got like the
Speaker 1: biggest weapons and the most people. It's just about technology
Speaker 1: and how you know, everyone can disrupt each other through that.
Speaker 1: It's like you know and shutdown systems and know where
Speaker 1: people are. And I mean it really, I mean that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the war for sure, like oh yeah, we used to
Speaker 1: just drop big bombs on things so they couldn't communicate.
Speaker 1: Now we just hack it and we flip a switch
Speaker 1: and now you have no power at your hospital. And
Speaker 1: yeah that again everything being so connected and also just
Speaker 1: reading constantly about how the US is always saying like
Speaker 1: we're so behind on the cyber stuff. We're so behind
Speaker 1: because we're we're overleveraged on the exploding people version of war.
Speaker 1: We completely had a blind spot technologically, and yeah, we're
Speaker 1: starting to see just how vulnerable so many of our
Speaker 1: systems are. Yeah, by the way, this is even though
Speaker 1: the US probably isn't one of the clients of this
Speaker 1: specific institution. Like, all this means is that the US
Speaker 1: government and military has the ability to do this already,
Speaker 1: and like it doesn't doesn't need to pay for Pandora. Not, dude,
Speaker 1: we got our own homebrew version we've been using since
Speaker 1: the eighties. Man, we're good. Yeah, yeah, Pandora. By the way,
Speaker 1: I just think it's funny that that's what it's called.
Speaker 1: No no, I just pointed out that it's fucking wild that, like,
Speaker 1: less than fifteen years ago it was okay to name
Speaker 1: your software Pandora, And now that just seems very silly
Speaker 1: and ironic that you do that. One technology is truly
Speaker 1: like becoming the It's almost like they knew what was
Speaker 1: gonna happen at some point. All right, let's say goodbye
Speaker 1: to another thing that we we don't want to see
Speaker 1: go away, but salad bars, we might have to say
Speaker 1: r I P. Baby. CNN just confirmed it. The salad
Speaker 1: bar is dying. As they talked to many grocers and
Speaker 1: analysts are like, yeah, dude, there's only a few places
Speaker 1: that are gonna bring it back. I'm sure most people
Speaker 1: if they go to their grocery store, they see that
Speaker 1: the salad bar is merely like a place to put
Speaker 1: like olives that are in plastic containers and like pre
Speaker 1: made stuff, and you're like, damn, I remember when this
Speaker 1: was a bustling, feeding trough. But in general, pandemic has
Speaker 1: changed how people look at like what it means to
Speaker 1: eat out of a big old fucking trough basically with
Speaker 1: like a piece of glass that's supposed to keep you safe.
Speaker 1: And in general, like people are shopping for groceries in
Speaker 1: more varied ways, like whether that's delivery or like doing
Speaker 1: curbside pickup, so there's like less foot traffic than normal.
Speaker 1: And so this is from cns IS quote. Grocers and
Speaker 1: analysts say a combination of factors has kept stores from
Speaker 1: rushing back to bring back their salad bars. Customers are
Speaker 1: now buying more groceries online working from home than they
Speaker 1: were before the pandemic, reducing the need for quick midday
Speaker 1: trips to salad bars. Some have moved away from them
Speaker 1: because of sanitary concerns. That's fair, Yeah, I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: and it's super gross, you know. Like I remember growing
Speaker 1: up there was this restaurant in my hometown called the
Speaker 1: rain Dancer, and they had a salad bar and it
Speaker 1: was like that was my favorite thing as a kid
Speaker 1: to be like, yes, I will be getting the salad bar.
Speaker 1: And you'd go up and they kept glass plates in
Speaker 1: a refrigerator, so like you know, you slide open the fridge,
Speaker 1: take out your ice cold plate, and then you came
Speaker 1: through the salad bar and everything would stay so cold
Speaker 1: on the plate, like that iceberg was like really you know,
Speaker 1: like I say, it was like crisp. And but even
Speaker 1: then and then as I became a teenager and friends
Speaker 1: started to work there, they're like, the salad bar is disgusting,
Speaker 1: Like we just pile the stuff new stuff on top
Speaker 1: of the old stuff, and then the old stuff at
Speaker 1: the end of the day is even like older. And
Speaker 1: they were like it is gnarly. And I always remember
Speaker 1: that like sixteen, being like, oh, like, salad bars are gross,
Speaker 1: and it's like but it is also so fun. There's
Speaker 1: something about like when the heater is on top of that,
Speaker 1: like you know, the General Sala's chicken at Whole Food
Speaker 1: like where you're like, oh, like that seems really appealing
Speaker 1: to me, even though I know it's kind of disgusting.
Speaker 1: I think we've discovered that like some food like General
Speaker 1: Sales chicken like that, that should be part of the
Speaker 1: preparation is making it sit under a heat lamp for
Speaker 1: two hours, because that, yeah, it makes it like, yeah,
Speaker 1: the syrup infuses the breading. The hot food bar also
Speaker 1: always felt like the elevated trough eating experience. Right It's like, dude,
Speaker 1: i ain't going to the salad bar. I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: this like seven hour old enchilada fucking plate that I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna scoop out with. Just just mangle it with
Speaker 1: this plastic spoon and put it in my cardboard box
Speaker 1: and I've got a meal. But I think it's like
Speaker 1: I used to hit salad bars when I was most
Speaker 1: like way more tethered to like an office like in
Speaker 1: my past job, were like clear, it's like fuck, you
Speaker 1: got you got forty five minutes an hour, like run
Speaker 1: over there, because like it's typically the speed at which
Speaker 1: you can pile in your you know, to go box
Speaker 1: was how you could get down to eat. And now
Speaker 1: like I because I'm making my own lunch and things
Speaker 1: like that. I truly, I'm just like, yeah, paying for
Speaker 1: leaves by the pound isn't as appealing as it used
Speaker 1: to be. But I don't know, I don't know if
Speaker 1: I'll miss it, but the experience, I do have memories of,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean, is it salad bars now? Like
Speaker 1: buffets tomorrow? Like what happens to to you know, all
Speaker 1: the you know, like the hotel buffet, Like are we
Speaker 1: are we done with that too? I don't think. I
Speaker 1: don't think we're ever getting rid of the I like
Speaker 1: I had this experience I think I talked about on
Speaker 1: the show where I drove past a like seafood all
Speaker 1: you can eat seafood buffet here in Los Angeles. It
Speaker 1: was like peek. I think we were like at the point,
Speaker 1: we probably weren't on complete shutdown, but we're definitely in
Speaker 1: that area where you know, you had to wear a
Speaker 1: mask everywhere you went into someone was dying every six minutes.
Speaker 1: Remember that phase that was, Yeah, that was kind of
Speaker 1: hard to live with. And the and the parking lot
Speaker 1: was fucking overflowing because it's just a value and all
Speaker 1: you can eat is a challenge to Americans. I don't
Speaker 1: think hell yeah, yeah, I don't think that's going anywhere. Man.
Speaker 1: That that refrigerated plate thing is such a great idea.
Speaker 1: That plates were shaped like a fish. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: And I love the problematic name of the buffet to
Speaker 1: the Raindancer rainec Do you know As I was saying it,
Speaker 1: I you know, because I haven't lived there and so long,
Speaker 1: And as it came out of my mouth, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I think we need to rebrand on the rain Dancer,
Speaker 1: and I don't think it's working anymore. Yeah, it's it's funny,
Speaker 1: like I feel like there need to be more like
Speaker 1: Instagram accounts or people just like, hey, throw up the
Speaker 1: names of the most wacky business places like restaurants and
Speaker 1: businesses that just had the most culturally insensitive like the
Speaker 1: Orient Buffet and you're like, oh, boy, you'll blay, You'll
Speaker 1: blay you by a boy, But yeah, r I p
Speaker 1: the salad bar. You you will be missed. Every salad
Speaker 1: bar I've been to, they're there. The plates are usually
Speaker 1: still hot from like the dishwasher, like there's like just
Speaker 1: that that overall like kind of like remnant from the
Speaker 1: back back house part of the And I used to
Speaker 1: be a dishwasher, so I know what that's like. But
Speaker 1: also like refrigerating a plate like in pandemic to like,
Speaker 1: isn't this gonna preserve the bacteria through refrigeration? You know
Speaker 1: what I mean in a weird way where versus like
Speaker 1: like heat blasting up plate is one thing, and then
Speaker 1: washing it and like people are touching them and then
Speaker 1: it's like preserved in like a refrigerated state too. But
Speaker 1: I love the feeling because yeah, a nice cold glass
Speaker 1: or something or plate or whatever feels. So we've got
Speaker 1: really pandemic foam. I tear on these plates, uh that
Speaker 1: we've preserved from. Uh this is the actual original COVID nineteen.
Speaker 1: Yeah you're gonna so, yeah, pretty good money for this.
Speaker 1: The other thing I see is just also like in
Speaker 1: this one article they talked about Bristol Farms in California
Speaker 1: saying we're not going to close our salad bar. And
Speaker 1: Bristol Farms is usually in very affluent areas, and I'm
Speaker 1: starting to wonder if like wealthier areas are going to
Speaker 1: hold onto their salad bars to say, like, nothing's wrong
Speaker 1: with that. I love my salad bar. Like if it's
Speaker 1: you know, if it's high V or Wegmans, like in
Speaker 1: this article, they said they're going to stop it, but
Speaker 1: like Bristol Farms, like no, baby, we're still We're still here.
Speaker 1: Wealthy people hold on to everything they refused to change.
Speaker 1: They think it will not touch them. So that's what
Speaker 1: that was the one thing I clocked as like a
Speaker 1: California person, like, but Bristol Farms in California maybe the exception,
Speaker 1: and like, of course it is. People weren't wearing masks
Speaker 1: in there when you had to. So they're the exception
Speaker 1: to everything. They're they're snowflakes, They're perfect, all right. I
Speaker 1: do want to get to this Britney Spears story while
Speaker 1: we have Jen here who has a Britney Spears podcast,
Speaker 1: so this is getting picked up. Britney spears bodyguard basically
Speaker 1: came out and confirmed the most surreal kind of implications
Speaker 1: of her testimony. He said that she basically wasn't allowed
Speaker 1: to do anything besides watch TV and work out. Her
Speaker 1: phone was monitored, visitors were searched and like wanded with
Speaker 1: a metal detector. Her dad called her security guard three
Speaker 1: to four times a day to check in on her,
Speaker 1: which you know, might sound like a doting, worrying father,
Speaker 1: except remember that he compared her to a racehorse. And then,
Speaker 1: maybe most disturbing, she was given a once a week
Speaker 1: powerful cocktail of prescription drugs, three anti psychotic medications, and
Speaker 1: birth control pills, just like straight up old boy shit.
Speaker 1: Like she wasn't she was just being like kept in
Speaker 1: like a humans and it's wild. I also thought it
Speaker 1: was interesting. So this security guard who's an ex cop,
Speaker 1: said that she would go from like being totally sane
Speaker 1: to talking about parallel universes, which for him is like
Speaker 1: code for cuckoo bananas. But that's actually, like, like I
Speaker 1: said earlier, what a lot of the scientific consensus thinks
Speaker 1: might be the truth of our like reality. Yes, here's
Speaker 1: here's the thing Britney spears from the many people I've
Speaker 1: talked to who know Brittany and who knew who were
Speaker 1: at different times in her life, all say that this
Speaker 1: has been a through line that Brittany is very connected to. Either.
Speaker 1: I mean, she might have the gift of sight where
Speaker 1: she can see into the future. She also feels very
Speaker 1: connected to the other side, like this is something that
Speaker 1: that has been consisted stint with Brittany and that she
Speaker 1: also she's not really into small talk. She goes super deep,
Speaker 1: really fast and this this is like I said, people
Speaker 1: who have known her for a really long time, knew
Speaker 1: her when she was completely sober. It's not like it's
Speaker 1: not about being on drugs or anything where she will
Speaker 1: just like talk about the deeper, like the deep meaning
Speaker 1: of like why, very existential, like why are we here?
Speaker 1: You know, she also talks about angels the other side.
Speaker 1: So this season on my podcast, I had her makeup artist,
Speaker 1: Julianne Kay, who was with her in her early years,
Speaker 1: and she came on and told a story and this,
Speaker 1: you guys, this is so wild. But Britney Spears owned
Speaker 1: a house off of Sunset and this was when she
Speaker 1: was dating Justin timber Lake. So then she and Justin breakup.
Speaker 1: Brittany was out partying all weekend long, and at the
Speaker 1: end of the weekend she was like, can you to Julianne,
Speaker 1: this makeup artist, can you send your racky healer to
Speaker 1: the house to do body work on me? She says sure,
Speaker 1: she sends the racky healer up to Britney's house. The
Speaker 1: racky Hiller performs body work on Brittany, and then Brittany
Speaker 1: calls Julianne kay and she says, I don't know. He
Speaker 1: opened up some sort of spiritual portal and I saw
Speaker 1: two people, a man and a woman, and they were
Speaker 1: fighting and they tried to throw me down the stairs.
Speaker 1: I'm leaving the house right now, and I got to
Speaker 1: get out of here, and she checked into a hotel.
Speaker 1: She never returned to the house again. She put the
Speaker 1: house on the market and the house was sold to
Speaker 1: Brittany Murphy, and Brittany Murphy and her husband both died
Speaker 1: in that house. So then I had I ended up
Speaker 1: having a paranormal researcher come on to the show, so
Speaker 1: not a psychic, not someone who just purely just researches
Speaker 1: all of this stuff. And he was saying that it
Speaker 1: could be like a number of things. One she could
Speaker 1: have seen into the future to the house, like there
Speaker 1: could have been some sort of spirit that was trapped
Speaker 1: in the house. It's just like Brittney on She and
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it just actually makes a lot
Speaker 1: of sense and explains a lot like Britney spears even
Speaker 1: now with everything that's going on, and the more she's
Speaker 1: telling us and and and telling the judge and wanting
Speaker 1: it to be made public, it's like, Okay, she's she's
Speaker 1: making so much sense, she's so coherent, she's being you know,
Speaker 1: she's laying at all the facts, and then she'll post
Speaker 1: something that's so cookie and then immediately everyone goes that
Speaker 1: can't be her or see she is actually crazy and
Speaker 1: said It's like, guys, I think like she's just like
Speaker 1: connected to the world in ways that us, like mirror mortals, aren't,
Speaker 1: and that is what makes her Brittney Spears. And can
Speaker 1: we all just finally get on the same page and
Speaker 1: recognize that she is an original and like she is
Speaker 1: all of the things. She is cookie, she is smart,
Speaker 1: exactly exactly. So I believe everything that her bodyguard said.
Speaker 1: I'm so glad that he's coming forward. Uh, and and
Speaker 1: it all makes sense to me. Like I don't think
Speaker 1: that the medication or like by her saying that she
Speaker 1: believes in in all you know, paranormal and all this
Speaker 1: and that I don't think it like okay, proves that
Speaker 1: she's crazy. I think it proves like that she just
Speaker 1: she's consistent with what her interest, what she feels, how
Speaker 1: she makes sense of the world, because I mean, who
Speaker 1: better than someone who has been thrust into the spotlight
Speaker 1: from childhood two ask a lot of deeper questions about
Speaker 1: their existence, Like the child stardom is such a fucked
Speaker 1: up experience where seldom are there people be like it
Speaker 1: was one turbulence free, I do it again if I,
Speaker 1: if I had the chance, many people are come out
Speaker 1: of there really fucked up and torture and field neglected
Speaker 1: or they had to grow up too fast. And I
Speaker 1: can imagine it for someone who like has spent their
Speaker 1: worst period of their life just under a microscope. I mean,
Speaker 1: like what is the world? Like why are why am
Speaker 1: I like this focal point? Like I couldn't imagine that
Speaker 1: should I would think of if I was on a
Speaker 1: shroom trip and I was Britney Spears or I had
Speaker 1: the same experiences. I mean, your reality would feel like
Speaker 1: a bad shroom trip at that point. Like that's kind
Speaker 1: of the implication of the of the documentary is that,
Speaker 1: like when you actually look back at what she was
Speaker 1: dealing with at that point, like put hitting a photographer
Speaker 1: who's been like trailing her and like making her like
Speaker 1: trying to like take pictures of her, like accidentally exposing
Speaker 1: her vagina like or whatever for a split second like that,
Speaker 1: of course, I like I would also try and hit
Speaker 1: that person's car with a fucking m brella like that.
Speaker 1: I feel like the implication of the documentary was like
Speaker 1: she went sane. She was like doing a thing that
Speaker 1: was the reaction that you would have to being in
Speaker 1: this weird fucked up like again like kind of a
Speaker 1: zoo like where like everybody's just looking at you, watching
Speaker 1: you like for their entertainment and not taking into account
Speaker 1: your humanity at all. And then like that's similar to
Speaker 1: the multiverse that like this person is hearing her and
Speaker 1: being like that's what a loony tune, And then in
Speaker 1: reality it's like, well, that's actually what a lot of
Speaker 1: scientists think is a rational way to explain the time
Speaker 1: space continue. Brittany has just been a constant reflection of
Speaker 1: what of how society is like functioning, especially when it
Speaker 1: comes to pop culture. It's like when she first came out,
Speaker 1: it was when she was going through, you know, postpartum depression,
Speaker 1: having her two kids, going through divorce. Her parents also
Speaker 1: got divorced at this time, her aunt passed away, she
Speaker 1: broke up with Justin timber Lake, who was such a
Speaker 1: defining part of her identity at that time. I mean,
Speaker 1: all of these things happened within a span of three years,
Speaker 1: and she is being you know, at that time, it
Speaker 1: was like, okay, people wanting to see her fail. You know,
Speaker 1: it was constantly provoking her to to see how she
Speaker 1: would react on the paparazzi hunting her down and all
Speaker 1: of us consuming it. And now it's all of us
Speaker 1: trying to to right that wrong of encouraging that. And
Speaker 1: now it's like, there must be justice for Brittany, and
Speaker 1: I just wonder, I wonder what will happen. I believe
Speaker 1: that she will be free. I think it's gonna take
Speaker 1: some time. And I wonder what we the people will
Speaker 1: do when that happens, you know, like, will will they
Speaker 1: come for Brittany in some new way? Will It's you know,
Speaker 1: right now everyone's hunting down and wanting to to blame her,
Speaker 1: her sister and her you know, it's just it's more
Speaker 1: than anything I look at. You know, I started this
Speaker 1: podcast because I loved Brittany, and you know, it was
Speaker 1: not in vogue to talk about Britney Spears three four
Speaker 1: years ago. It was it was like a very niche
Speaker 1: thing where I was like, I'm just gonna go back
Speaker 1: and find my people because I felt like I was
Speaker 1: in all of these arenas and stadiums as a teenager,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, they're out there somewhere. And then I
Speaker 1: went to like I went to college and suddenly like
Speaker 1: no one was into Brittany. And then I, you know,
Speaker 1: moved to Los Angeles and I'm like, but not ironically, like,
Speaker 1: we're all those people that were in those arenas with me.
Speaker 1: And so then when I started doing this, I like
Speaker 1: realized I was like, oh, like Fan Cole, sure is
Speaker 1: really something, because we're all like our own mini dysfunctional family.
Speaker 1: Like there's the cookie ant, there's the really fucked up uncle,
Speaker 1: there's like the supportive mom, there's like but the but
Speaker 1: not everyone is on the same page. So I just
Speaker 1: I'm so curious what everyone will do once Brittany is
Speaker 1: is free. But it's just more than any of us
Speaker 1: could have like ever imagine what was happening to her.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's really really something. And the fact that
Speaker 1: she's been judged for the past thirteen years of her
Speaker 1: life on essentially like three really bad days is just
Speaker 1: like is unfathomable, Like like she's just been such a
Speaker 1: victim of her of her dad's dysfunction. It's a really
Speaker 1: tragic story. It's really it's just it's it's unbelievable, truly. Well,
Speaker 1: hopefully people will leave her alone after she frees herself
Speaker 1: and just like let her live her life. But I
Speaker 1: can't imagine can you imagine? I mean if just if
Speaker 1: the attention, the amount of clicks it gets to focus
Speaker 1: on her potential, you know, potentially being liberated from this conservatorship.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine the press, just as an entity is
Speaker 1: then being like Okay, let's let her go. They're gonna
Speaker 1: be like she's thriving. Look at her now, she's vacationing here,
Speaker 1: look at her with her kids, Like Okay, what the
Speaker 1: funk are you? You're you're still not giving this person
Speaker 1: their space. But I think that's just a larger reckoning
Speaker 1: we again to like sort of your point, Jen is
Speaker 1: like we sort of need to have a reckoning with
Speaker 1: how we what we believe the nature of celebrity is
Speaker 1: and what people are entitled to as fans to know
Speaker 1: or not know, and you know how much of a
Speaker 1: microscope people should be put on. Yeah, she's spending all
Speaker 1: the money now that she got it back, and that
Speaker 1: was every greatest fear. It's like, let her spend her money.
Speaker 1: People go broke every day like in this country, Like,
Speaker 1: let her spend sixty million and have to figure it out.
Speaker 1: Like that's what life and growing up is about. How
Speaker 1: to manage our our money, our our life. You know,
Speaker 1: I'll be super sad she's like she blew it all on.
Speaker 1: And I always like, let her buy the angel oil
Speaker 1: paintings and like, you know, buy a house in Hawaii,
Speaker 1: like just let her you oh yeah, absolutely live that life. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and if she is in the market for angel oil paintings,
Speaker 1: hit me up, Brittany, because Jack got you at Angels.
Speaker 1: Jen It's been such a pleasure having you on the
Speaker 1: daily Zeitgeist. Where can people find you and follow you?
Speaker 1: You can find me on Instagram at Jennifer Zaborowski. That's
Speaker 1: so you can sounded phanetically yes, thank you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: And I don't do Twitter, guys. I got off and
Speaker 1: I said I just can't. My brain was just it
Speaker 1: was too much going on up here. So uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: you can follow follow me on Instagram? Ye, perfect. And
Speaker 1: is there a tweet or a graham or something that
Speaker 1: you've been enjoying. Well, I mean, it really is all
Speaker 1: about Brittany and I right before I got on with you, guys,
Speaker 1: I looked at her her Instagram to review and she
Speaker 1: posted a new Instagram post and it is kind of
Speaker 1: wild because she posted a picture of Kelly Oxford doing yoga.
Speaker 1: Kelly Oxford is a writer, a director, she has a
Speaker 1: big social media presence and this was probably even over
Speaker 1: a year ago. Kelly Oxford commented on a Britney Spears
Speaker 1: post and said how it was all too much for
Speaker 1: her and it was like disturbing to her what Britney
Speaker 1: was posting. And then all these Brittany stands went after
Speaker 1: Kelly Oxford and said, how dare you She's happy? She's okay,
Speaker 1: Like this isn't dysfunctional, You're dysfunctional. And so it was
Speaker 1: this whole thing about how Kelly Oxford was the worst
Speaker 1: person in the world for posting that on Brittaney's Instagram,
Speaker 1: and then Brittany Today posted a picture and tag Kelly
Speaker 1: Oxford doing yoga, and guys, it's just Brittany. When you
Speaker 1: think you've got her nailed down, you just don't. And
Speaker 1: that's why I love her. Wow, Miles, where can people
Speaker 1: find you? What's the tweet you've been enjoying? You can
Speaker 1: find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray.
Speaker 1: Also the other pod for twenty Day Fiance. If you
Speaker 1: like ninety Day Fiance, come come visit us over there,
Speaker 1: because we got we got nothing but fire takes about
Speaker 1: that show some tweets that I like, it's really just
Speaker 1: one at that one queen tweeted, I just know some
Speaker 1: queen is going to name herself Delta variant and very
Speaker 1: from Like, yeah, I can see that happening, So shout
Speaker 1: out to whichever drag queen gets to that name first.
Speaker 1: That's a good name. And your Mike and tweeted, I
Speaker 1: got vaccinated for this me very loudly in public every
Speaker 1: time on board. Uh and uh let's see. Oh and
Speaker 1: at Sophie Bottle tweeted, if you're worried you ever said
Speaker 1: something weird to me, just know that I don't remember
Speaker 1: anything anybody has said to me ever in my life,
Speaker 1: and I identify with both sides of that. I constantly
Speaker 1: think of weird stuff I've said and also don't remember
Speaker 1: anything anyone's ever said to me. So you can find
Speaker 1: me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien. You can find
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Speaker 1: episode done our foot no where we link off to
Speaker 1: the information that we talked about in today's episode, as
Speaker 1: well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles,
Speaker 1: what song are we sending people to check out? To them?
Speaker 1: We are going to be doing another song from Pink Anthoress,
Speaker 1: who's just I just love the Pink Panthers vibe. It's
Speaker 1: like this just getting into old like drum and bass,
Speaker 1: sort of jungle style but like being real sing songy
Speaker 1: on it. And this track is called Passion, So it's
Speaker 1: if you like the other track we went out on
Speaker 1: a while back, you're gonna like this one because it's
Speaker 1: just very playful and has this again good energy, good energy.
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