Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season one, eight, episode
Speaker 1: five of the Guys, the production of My Heart Radio.
Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we take a deep dive
Speaker 1: into American's share consciousness. And it is Friday, June, the
Speaker 1: season finale. My name is Jack O'Brien. Okay. I like
Speaker 1: the way you tube that right there, because USA thighs
Speaker 1: when you're walking, let down your hair. I like the
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Speaker 1: Adult Monster. Uh. And I'm thrilled to be joined as
Speaker 1: always by my co host, Mr Miles Gras. And I
Speaker 1: may find myself posting a podcast with Jack, and I
Speaker 1: may find myself in another part of l A with
Speaker 1: a comfortable couch and weed in my pipe, and I
Speaker 1: may ask myself how did I get here? And let
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Speaker 1: um a, Miles Gray and I hold to podcast as
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Speaker 1: into the silent twitter, under the rocks and stones, there
Speaker 1: are hot takes underground. Oh my god, Gray, as it
Speaker 1: ever was. Yeah, I see you, Hannah Sultis. I even
Speaker 1: know that discord engines. I know that. Just play name
Speaker 1: one of the greats right there. That was one of
Speaker 1: my favorite cake right there. I will be pronounced for
Speaker 1: the entirety of this episode. I will be pronouncing there
Speaker 1: as the Jack O'Brien. You lived in East Louis for
Speaker 1: a little bit, of course, you say, okay, so far
Speaker 1: east that it was Columbia, Missouri. Well, we are thrilled,
Speaker 1: Miles to be joined by a very funny comedian and
Speaker 1: activist and just one of our favorite guests on Daily
Speaker 1: Night Guys. She was the host of the award winning
Speaker 1: podcast Good Muslim, Bad Muslim. She's a senior Fellow on
Speaker 1: Comedy at the Pop Culture Collab. She's written in The
Speaker 1: New York Times, wrote performed a piece on NPRS Fresh
Speaker 1: Air for some lesser podcaster known as Terry Gross. And yeah,
Speaker 1: just one of the great, the hilarious, the talented Zara Norba.
Speaker 1: What's up? Welcome birthday? Is your britch? Your birthday? Happy birthdays,
Speaker 1: Happy birthday doing Hey, when I used to do birthday
Speaker 1: parties in l A, I knew how to get down
Speaker 1: and happy birthday and so many languages. So yeah, happy
Speaker 1: birthday to you. Happy birthday are you doing anything special, Like,
Speaker 1: so last year was a pandemic birthday. This year is
Speaker 1: like a half pandemic birthday. You're doing anything so I'm
Speaker 1: a new mom, I know. Congratulations. We got to meet
Speaker 1: Boba before we started recording. He's a puppy and one
Speaker 1: of my juddest puppies. I think that's Supert and that's Wookie.
Speaker 1: The trawling just came in. Oh yeah, he's like still her.
Speaker 1: I'm the oldest on the baby. How's that been a delight?
Speaker 1: I love walking into pee puddles. Yeah, yeah, I cold.
Speaker 1: So it happened like a while ago, and it's said
Speaker 1: in that's the best there. And there's something too about puppies.
Speaker 1: They're just like emitting oxytocin. Yeah. So you like you
Speaker 1: don't feel mad at him, You're just happy all the time.
Speaker 1: Just like yeah, you're like, oh man, like that was
Speaker 1: a family heirloom you destroyed, but your your little tails waggy.
Speaker 1: Something about my hormones are just delighted. Yeah, so happy
Speaker 1: birthday to you. Thank you. I'm going to be playing
Speaker 1: with my puppy. Yeah, I'm gonna watch Joss Yes, is
Speaker 1: that your favorite movie? Yeah, that's my favorite? Me too,
Speaker 1: and we're almost the exact same age, I think, so,
Speaker 1: my god, yeah, I'm turning I'm also turning twenty six
Speaker 1: in July. So yeah, yeah, so that something about that age,
Speaker 1: even though we were not born yet when that movie
Speaker 1: came out, it was just really hitting a cultural moment
Speaker 1: when we were like four. Well, I hope you guys
Speaker 1: come to my twenty first birthday. It's going to be
Speaker 1: really really cool. Fine, are you guys worried about the
Speaker 1: twenty seven club? Oh my god, I remember? Okay, No,
Speaker 1: for real, I'm forty one. Shout out to all the
Speaker 1: woman I know above forty and uh I tried to
Speaker 1: keep my organs till fifty lost one mm huhm, but hey,
Speaker 1: I got a puppy, so it all works out. Shout
Speaker 1: out to you. Shout out to Jaws, one of the greats.
Speaker 1: Did y'all think your life was gonna peak at seven? Oh? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I really did. Like going into that year, I was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: this is it, this is it? Get ready and I'm
Speaker 1: like unemployed, living in my mom Are you for real
Speaker 1: right now? No? No? No, no, my god, Wow, what
Speaker 1: a compliment? Yeah, thank you so much. No, I would
Speaker 1: you never know anymore? I will be thirty seven this fall.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I just think about like the really these
Speaker 1: like numbers in your mind of like truly like man
Speaker 1: like the great like the five people like artists that
Speaker 1: I sucked with, is like, okay, that's an interesting coincidence.
Speaker 1: And somehow I thought like I would get in touch
Speaker 1: with some kind of like super artistic power or something.
Speaker 1: Didn't happen that way. You just harness it. I just
Speaker 1: harnessed it to steal food from my pa gigs when
Speaker 1: I worked on Hell's Kitchen. Oh my god. When my
Speaker 1: mom was my age, she had four kids, a mortgage,
Speaker 1: and three jobs. And now I still go to her house,
Speaker 1: same house too, Uh, steal her groceries right right, right,
Speaker 1: come apartment. Yeah. When my dad was my age, I
Speaker 1: was getting in trouble for drinking that I was old enough,
Speaker 1: and he was just that old man who was always
Speaker 1: on my back. So yeah, it's yeah, just man, what
Speaker 1: how different it was. I saw a meme recently that
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, baby boomers like starting families
Speaker 1: in the eighties, and they're just like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I guess this is what I do, and like it's
Speaker 1: easy to get a mortgage I don't know if this
Speaker 1: is even what I want. And then it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot of our parents kind of went into life
Speaker 1: like being like I think this is what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 1: Maybe not, and then they're like, sorry, your mom and
Speaker 1: I I kind of that sort of, wasn't it. It
Speaker 1: turns out, hold up my husband's home. I'm not a
Speaker 1: single mom anymore. Husband, Get the boys. I'm doing a show.
Speaker 1: So good to be here. You just I didn't know
Speaker 1: if that was a bit. Your husband just wants it
Speaker 1: in the background, wearing all black like he's working in
Speaker 1: a production. Just dutiful astraction with your loud colors. Every
Speaker 1: time I try to do a joke with American idioms,
Speaker 1: I just fall on my face miserably. Please, you have
Speaker 1: to tell us it's going to be so spare the rod,
Speaker 1: break the child. I have no idea. Spare the rod,
Speaker 1: spoil the child, which give them what they want, don't
Speaker 1: hit them. It means if you don't hit your child,
Speaker 1: you're going to spoil them. Oh not like yo, spare
Speaker 1: the rod, spoil your child. No, no, no, it's not.
Speaker 1: I don't believe that's how that might be. Yeah, ain't
Speaker 1: nobody sparing the Rod in my house. Yeah, unfortunately called
Speaker 1: my mom Rod Strickland, Rod strict Land. Yeah, alright, sorry,
Speaker 1: We're gonna get to know you better in a moment. First,
Speaker 1: we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of things we're
Speaker 1: talking about. We're gonna talk about Kamala Harris's immigration trip. Uh.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about Caitlyn Jenner's new attack ad. We're
Speaker 1: gonna talk about the latest vaccine conspiracy theory, which this
Speaker 1: one has been debunked for decades, I believe. We're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about those Chinese elephants. We're gonna talk about the
Speaker 1: state of the cruise line industry and why Florida is
Speaker 1: screwing him over rod descent. Not so good for one
Speaker 1: of his state's biggest industries. All of that plenty more.
Speaker 1: But first, are we like to ask our guest, as
Speaker 1: you know, what is something from your search history? I
Speaker 1: gotta read this to you. It's so good. White supremacy
Speaker 1: culture and organizations. Okay, supremacy culture in organizations, Okay, what
Speaker 1: are you working on? What? I'm dealing with some stuff,
Speaker 1: some some folks just not being cool, you know. While
Speaker 1: I'm an artist trying to put together portfolio works right,
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Speaker 1: But listeners, that's a half billion right there, just like dollary,
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Speaker 1: So this is a special. I saw you say that
Speaker 1: you sold out a seven hundred show and you're now
Speaker 1: trying to just do the post on it. You got
Speaker 1: the material. It's good. The world needs to see it.
Speaker 1: Come through, Frezar, come through, folks. I want to. I
Speaker 1: want to share it with the world. It's called on
Speaker 1: behalf of all Muslims. And while I was kind of
Speaker 1: like working on how to put it together and get
Speaker 1: it out there and make y'all Muslim that's the goal,
Speaker 1: of course, grend of Mind set me this amazing article
Speaker 1: and it's okay, so check this out. There are sort
Speaker 1: of like tests to see if you're perpetuating white supremacy
Speaker 1: culture in your organization, your place of work, or in
Speaker 1: your relationships. Are you highlighting perfectionism including the worship of
Speaker 1: the written word, like one right way to do a
Speaker 1: thing or either or thinking do you feel right to comfort?
Speaker 1: Including a fear of open conflict, and of course individualism
Speaker 1: hyper individualism and progress is bigger or more so like
Speaker 1: progress as in like anything that's quote unquote progressive value
Speaker 1: as objective looking at you know, constant sense of urgency.
Speaker 1: I don't know how those two fit together, but I'm
Speaker 1: just going to condemn people for it from now on. Well.
Speaker 1: Constant sense of urgency and my experience in organizations means
Speaker 1: that there is a like just a constantly shifting set
Speaker 1: of priorities, and so you will have people put put
Speaker 1: forward you know, the importance of progressive ideals in one moment,
Speaker 1: but then there's not the sustained And this might not
Speaker 1: be what this thing is saying, but that is something
Speaker 1: that I think you see inside organizations is that there's
Speaker 1: always just a new urgent task that needs to be accomplished,
Speaker 1: and you can't exactly always behind, always chasing, no time
Speaker 1: for reflection. Usually my search history, especially on a Friday morning,
Speaker 1: would be more like you know, two milks sixty or nine,
Speaker 1: playing sandwich, two milk six swish. That's an American idiot
Speaker 1: get them wrong, but it's smart. Yeah. I mean that
Speaker 1: sense of urgency thing is it's sort of like, you know,
Speaker 1: it hijacks the energy to do think something substantive because
Speaker 1: if everything else is so fucking how the fund did
Speaker 1: you get to? The hold on? You want me to
Speaker 1: change everything right now? We're barely getting So I get
Speaker 1: that because that is I think you see that across society.
Speaker 1: And I was just gonna say, we just came out
Speaker 1: of four years of just constant urgency, right with a
Speaker 1: white supremacist cheeto maniac. Yes, is he a white supremacist?
Speaker 1: Come on, he's the least racist person you'll ever meet,
Speaker 1: according to him and nobody him and his big, big,
Speaker 1: below average son. What is something that you think is overrated? Overrated?
Speaker 1: Is sweets? I'm just gonna say I'm not. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: coming in hard. I'm forty one. I'm not here to
Speaker 1: make friends anymore. Ye did not come here to make friends.
Speaker 1: I want the cheese and bacon scone. I don't care
Speaker 1: about bayberry mm hmmm. I'm sure Okay, you like dessert.
Speaker 1: I love that. Like in all the times I've done this,
Speaker 1: this is the first time you guys just I want to.
Speaker 1: I want to. I want to understand ree coming from
Speaker 1: because I'm the same at pastries. Like if I'm at
Speaker 1: a coffee shop, I'm not getting a sweet page, I'm
Speaker 1: getting savory. Patient. I love a sweet with with some coffee.
Speaker 1: But to me, I'm usually so hungry. I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: give me that thing, because I'm hungry. I want to
Speaker 1: eat like a fucking meal and like fruity pastry like
Speaker 1: with sweet ship is not like it doesn't feel nourishing
Speaker 1: to me. Man always yeah, No, just in general, I
Speaker 1: opt for the savory when I'm at the coffee shop.
Speaker 1: For sure. I'm trying to get myself to a place
Speaker 1: where I live my life as though I believe that
Speaker 1: sweets are overrated and because like I instead of I'm
Speaker 1: just keeping all like very sugary things out of my
Speaker 1: household so that I can't eat them, like right before
Speaker 1: I go to bed, and you know, feel like shit.
Speaker 1: But I'm like at my core. Jamie Loftus mentioned her
Speaker 1: Dunkin Donuts order to me a week ago, I think,
Speaker 1: and I've not been able to stop thinking about it
Speaker 1: and like wanting to go get go, get that ship.
Speaker 1: It's just been like echoing in your head like plan
Speaker 1: Lisa needs braces. You're like, oh my god, I need
Speaker 1: what what was the donut that? What was that? So
Speaker 1: it's I've never had it because I always assumed that
Speaker 1: they're cream filled donuts, were were filled with that like
Speaker 1: kind of custardy thing that isn't pure sugar. And she
Speaker 1: revealed to me that actually they make donuts that are
Speaker 1: filled with icing, which is like, that's just an icing bomb,
Speaker 1: that's just a sugar bomb. That is what my brain craves. Wow, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I I try to eat less sweets. But
Speaker 1: then the second I walked through the grocery store and
Speaker 1: it's just like, yo, man, buy six pints and they're
Speaker 1: like basically two bucks each. I'm like, fuck, say less,
Speaker 1: Let's go get the Talenty gelato, the fucking the magnum
Speaker 1: a thing that has just like that plate chocolate on top.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah, I feel you with the as
Speaker 1: you were saying, in a pastry world, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: there to order something, I opt for the savory. It's more,
Speaker 1: I don't know why, it's more interesting to me. Agree,
Speaker 1: what's your favorite savory snack? In San Francisco, there's this
Speaker 1: joint Craftsman and Wolf they have inside of a bacon
Speaker 1: and cheese muffin, uh soft boiled egg. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: that sounds what it's that is. I'm like just like
Speaker 1: envisioning that in my world's changing. Yeah, it is just
Speaker 1: life altering. You bite into that gorgeousness that yoke just
Speaker 1: envelopes you and they take the shell off and everything.
Speaker 1: How do they do this? That's amazing? What is uh?
Speaker 1: What is something that you think is under aged chocolate
Speaker 1: mixed with fruit? Mm hmm okay, mixing it up? Okay,
Speaker 1: so sweets are ovarrached under it? I love it. I
Speaker 1: love it. Okay, go on contradictions, y'all, which which fruits
Speaker 1: fruits I hate? Okay, I'll say this. I don't like
Speaker 1: orange and chocolate. Never could be able to get down
Speaker 1: with that. If it's overly citrusy I've been I've had trouble,
Speaker 1: but I appreciate that, Okay. And we don't know what
Speaker 1: happened to you, guys that ruined you, but you know
Speaker 1: it's I feel you a little bit that like that.
Speaker 1: Having those like strands, the citrus like fibrousness used to
Speaker 1: funk with me a little bit to combine that with chocolate,
Speaker 1: But I got over that. I would have thought it's
Speaker 1: the acidity that's that could also be it, that could
Speaker 1: also be it? Yeah? Is this also? This feels like
Speaker 1: the most hermogeney conversation I have about sweet How do
Speaker 1: they make you feel? What's your ideal fruit chocolate combo?
Speaker 1: Berries with milk or with dark chocolate? Always dark chocolate. Okay, Miles,
Speaker 1: So do you don't work with orange and chocolate? Is
Speaker 1: there a chocolate fruit combo that you the ones that
Speaker 1: makes sense? Like you know, bananas and chocolate, Like I
Speaker 1: can get down with that, like a chocolate banana crepe,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like when I'm in Japan,
Speaker 1: Like yeah, like you know, that's when I those combinations
Speaker 1: kind of get to me. But yeah, I don't. It's
Speaker 1: it's really because I remember once like some like European
Speaker 1: orange chocolate or something my parents had laying around the
Speaker 1: house and I thought like, oh, here we go chocolate,
Speaker 1: and it just felt it was such a violent combo
Speaker 1: in my mouth that I was like, I can't this
Speaker 1: isn't My childish mind cannot handle this combination. It's a
Speaker 1: lot of acidity. Yeah, it was a little too much,
Speaker 1: A little too much. So you're just talking about like
Speaker 1: a chocolate from like a box of chocolate that had
Speaker 1: like an orange cream filling. Is that? Or like they
Speaker 1: have ones that are innately like infused with like it's
Speaker 1: like an orange chocolate or like I've had the ones
Speaker 1: where it will be like candied sort of citrus fruit
Speaker 1: with chocolate around it. And I'm like, what are we
Speaker 1: doing here that I'm a purist, you know, I'm a
Speaker 1: little I'm a little closed minded when it comes to
Speaker 1: then Zara comedy. That's z a h r A comedy.
Speaker 1: Your money. Now, all right, let's take a quick break
Speaker 1: while people go do that and we will be right back.
Speaker 1: And we're back, and the Vice President, Kamala Harris is
Speaker 1: all over the media right now, a lot of it
Speaker 1: for just sort of did you see the way she
Speaker 1: answered that question, Jim, just like kind of bullshitty, misogynistic
Speaker 1: type critiques, But you know, she was down there on
Speaker 1: official business as the head of the immigration policy, which
Speaker 1: is a very difficult job, and objectively, like, how how
Speaker 1: do we think she did? I don't. I mean, look
Speaker 1: you some people are like she's been sabotaged by being
Speaker 1: put on that, and I get that to a certain
Speaker 1: extent because it's it's like the one issue Americans have
Speaker 1: just no imagination for. So it ends up always just
Speaker 1: turning into a thing where it's like if you, if
Speaker 1: you show any kind of empathy, Republicans go, oh, it's
Speaker 1: open borders, no borders. Yeah, well, who gives a ship anyway?
Speaker 1: Like what the funk are these borders? So we're even
Speaker 1: talking about it, but it's like that it's open season
Speaker 1: on everything and blah blah blah blah. So that's gonna
Speaker 1: be the one side where it's it's difficult to show
Speaker 1: any heart because you're afraid of the outrage on the right,
Speaker 1: and then progressives will always feel like it's always lacking
Speaker 1: because it's going to be something of like, well, we
Speaker 1: have to project strength, and it's like it do you.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that's the solution, um and I and
Speaker 1: I understand that, and all of that is looked at
Speaker 1: through the prism of her being a woman of color.
Speaker 1: So it's just it's a very hard thing for people
Speaker 1: to have, Like clearly on the right, there's no way
Speaker 1: for them to have any kind of objective analysis of
Speaker 1: like what's happened, because it's just going to be like
Speaker 1: she's angry, and look at her and now she's just
Speaker 1: and she just laughs off questions when lester Holt says
Speaker 1: what should you do? She doesn't take it seriously. And
Speaker 1: then there's also people of color who are like, yo,
Speaker 1: your mother is an immigrant, and like, don't you also
Speaker 1: understand like what that means the ability to want to
Speaker 1: pursue something better for yourself and your family or to
Speaker 1: escape some kind of oppression or violence. And I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a really charged debate. I think she was damned
Speaker 1: either way, and I'm not really as focused on like
Speaker 1: what she could have said or couldn't say. The thing
Speaker 1: that really strikes me is this idea of like, well,
Speaker 1: we're here to go after the root causes of the immigration,
Speaker 1: Like you know, that's why I'm not at the border,
Speaker 1: because I want to go to the places where people
Speaker 1: are coming from. That's why she was in Guatemala and
Speaker 1: flatly said do not come. Whoa excuse you do not come?
Speaker 1: What the funk are you talking about? And then saying, well,
Speaker 1: you know, that's also because it's not that you know
Speaker 1: obviously that we understand the situation there but we want
Speaker 1: to invest a lot of money, billions of dollars into
Speaker 1: these countries to try and address the issues that are
Speaker 1: even having people flee. But it's like this the most
Speaker 1: American ship where you're like outwardly being like, we want
Speaker 1: to help them and we're gonna do everything we can,
Speaker 1: but at the same time, you completely ignore how the
Speaker 1: region got to where it's at, Like the US, it's
Speaker 1: the root cause is the US. It's American intervention and
Speaker 1: the propping up of corrupt regimes that do they are
Speaker 1: told that is the root cause. It's not, Oh man,
Speaker 1: it's the corruption in these It's like, where do you
Speaker 1: think it's all born out of? Because when people in
Speaker 1: Latin America were you know, saying fruit growers were asking
Speaker 1: for a fair share of profits, or there are popular
Speaker 1: leaders who were, you know, gaining a lot of popular
Speaker 1: support for being critical of a corrupt class of wealthy oligarchs.
Speaker 1: Or maybe your local military didn't have enough training or
Speaker 1: weapons to put down uprisings, Uncle Sam will come right
Speaker 1: in and help you do all that. Ship, And that's
Speaker 1: the root cause of so much of the societal ills
Speaker 1: that are being experienced by these people. So that's why
Speaker 1: I'm just like, what the fuck root cause? At this stage,
Speaker 1: like now you want to look at root causes, like
Speaker 1: some stuff to happen, maybe maybe after you know, addressing
Speaker 1: some immediate need, then let's take a look at root cause.
Speaker 1: But to like step into something in the middle of
Speaker 1: a crisis and be like, let's unnerth the root cause there, Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's do some therapy. Let's uh about our childhood. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, people aren't fleeing the country because of like potholes,
Speaker 1: and you feel the potholes and they're good. Like it's
Speaker 1: there's lots of problems. You need a too pronged approach
Speaker 1: that is, yes, you acknowledge the root cause and also
Speaker 1: acknowledge America's part of it, but you also have to
Speaker 1: be willing to accept people who are fleeing for their lives.
Speaker 1: Like you can't just be like, sorry, we'll just have
Speaker 1: a little patience for us. This is and this is
Speaker 1: the weird ship that they hand the Muslims all the time,
Speaker 1: where they'll say, like, you know, let's take a look
Speaker 1: at the root causes of terrorism, and it's always just
Speaker 1: an opportunity. Yeah, well until label people is innately violent,
Speaker 1: you know, like the number of times that I'd be
Speaker 1: in high school and college history classes and you know,
Speaker 1: teachers who are hosting quote unquote healthy debate to understand
Speaker 1: if like Muslims are just innately violent, Like that was
Speaker 1: a question, you know, and I'm sure it's all the
Speaker 1: question people ask, so like to hear them be like,
Speaker 1: you know, what's the root cause here it's like, what
Speaker 1: are you hoping that's gonna be? Right? Yeah, it's just
Speaker 1: I don't know, And it's just again, it allows another
Speaker 1: opportunity for America to act like they're trying to fix
Speaker 1: a problem that they created, while ignoring their hand in
Speaker 1: creating the problem. Like, you know, a lot of the
Speaker 1: violence you see in these countries because of the civil
Speaker 1: wars that were that happened because the United States were
Speaker 1: being like, uh, we want more like we want someone
Speaker 1: more autocratic that we can kind of like tamp down
Speaker 1: these like you know and these like communists sharing society
Speaker 1: type feelings that are coming out of here. And then
Speaker 1: you get these guerilla factions that grew up and now
Speaker 1: you have a civil war and now it's completely destabilized,
Speaker 1: and you wonder why they can't get it to like
Speaker 1: what's happened. Well, we look back, look look at Ronald
Speaker 1: Reagan's policies, like it's look at the just the history
Speaker 1: of invasion of the invasions that have happened in Latin
Speaker 1: America throughout the years, and then to just keep it up.
Speaker 1: It's like, man, they don't just have enough jobs over there.
Speaker 1: I think that's the deal, and like maybe if we
Speaker 1: can do some infrastructure, like come the funk on all
Speaker 1: that to say is just it. It was more just
Speaker 1: to me be more exasperated saying, well, you're willfully missing
Speaker 1: the point here, because really you'd want to say, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what, like we need to figure out a
Speaker 1: way to like revitalize these economies in a way that
Speaker 1: all of the people of these countries are able to
Speaker 1: benefit from like whatever whatever is happening. But that's a model,
Speaker 1: that's a model that the United States has been violently
Speaker 1: avoiding for a century. Now, Yeah, is that really what
Speaker 1: they want? I mean? Also, the other thing that's bizarre
Speaker 1: to me is that the level of destabilization that Trump
Speaker 1: instituted at the border is like on par with the
Speaker 1: same kinds of destabilization that George Bush was accused of
Speaker 1: with Iraq and that region and the terror cells that
Speaker 1: that also wound up creating. Am I right, like, is
Speaker 1: this I'm less of a foreign policy person. I'm more
Speaker 1: of a shoot shoot from my jock, right, it needs
Speaker 1: to be if it's not. Yeah, no, I mean the like,
Speaker 1: I got some feels in my jock about this. The
Speaker 1: in Iraq, it was the US backing Saddam Hussein because
Speaker 1: he was an authoritarian who they felt like they could
Speaker 1: control over anybody who had like, you know, social progressive
Speaker 1: ideals on there. I'm talking yeah, the George the George
Speaker 1: w Era, Right, it was like so destabilized, and then
Speaker 1: they were like, you know, go in fight him, take
Speaker 1: him down, and then assumed that democracy would blossom because
Speaker 1: I don't know, just because yeah, I think it's just
Speaker 1: going in messing messing with entire societies without having a
Speaker 1: plan or doing the necessary groundwork. In the addition to that,
Speaker 1: there were these interrogation spaces that were specifically to like
Speaker 1: you know, torture quote unquote terrorists, right, And what they
Speaker 1: found was that it wound up actually creating terrorists sub
Speaker 1: organizations because those folks would you know, like hang and
Speaker 1: and then come together and when they you know, sort
Speaker 1: of just like left the George W. Presidency, like they
Speaker 1: just were like peace out on like all of that
Speaker 1: mess that they created. Yeah, and and then those folks
Speaker 1: went on to get funded by probably putin bias Saudi Arabia,
Speaker 1: all these webs of funding that came out in the
Speaker 1: Panama papers and became part of groups like ISIS. And
Speaker 1: then you've got a similar kind of thing happening with
Speaker 1: what Trump had done at the border, and you know,
Speaker 1: with a putting children in cages and separating families and
Speaker 1: creating these divides and throughout the region and then just
Speaker 1: being like peace out. And it's bizarre to me that
Speaker 1: we're not thinking about like, Okay, those were tactics to
Speaker 1: create terrorists, factions and create destabilization in the Middle East
Speaker 1: so that it would be perpetually at war as a
Speaker 1: method of control. So what are we doing with a
Speaker 1: guy that we're still not sure about when it comes
Speaker 1: to treason, who did that on our border for us
Speaker 1: to enjoy for years to come. Yeah, Yeah, And it's
Speaker 1: what I think, because what it also does is we've
Speaker 1: seen the industries that immigration enforcement has created, like well,
Speaker 1: it's crime going down and the prison industrial complex isn't
Speaker 1: focused on people within our borders, well, criminalize the people
Speaker 1: who are trying to come into the country. You two,
Speaker 1: And you've seen the amount of funding that goes to
Speaker 1: these these companies, these organisms or whatever that you know,
Speaker 1: these their companies that build these facilities and things like that,
Speaker 1: and we haven't seen the funding really dwindle from this
Speaker 1: administration either. So you know, it's it's all just this
Speaker 1: sort of like self perpetuating issue that as much as
Speaker 1: you want to talk root causes, it's like that's just
Speaker 1: it rings hollow when you're not really talking about the
Speaker 1: root causes or at least wanting to have bring the
Speaker 1: clarity of historical context and what the United States hand
Speaker 1: is in all of this to then begin talking about
Speaker 1: root causes, because again, it's just a disingenuous way to
Speaker 1: absolve the United States from any responsibility for why people
Speaker 1: are coming here. And I think people we're able to
Speaker 1: see a little bit more clearly after the after the
Speaker 1: year and the Black Lives Matter movement and you know,
Speaker 1: the George Floyd protests a little they were able to
Speaker 1: connect a little more clearly what they were seeing happen
Speaker 1: to Palestinians, to kind of the oppression that Americans were
Speaker 1: seeing at home and I you know, same ship in
Speaker 1: you know, Central and South America. Same They were using
Speaker 1: the same tactics they used on the Black Panther movement.
Speaker 1: They were for the past century assassinating leaders who the
Speaker 1: more promising the leader, the more likely they were to
Speaker 1: assassinate them so that they could put just some military
Speaker 1: dictator in place that they thought that they could control.
Speaker 1: But like things like that, like individual moments where you
Speaker 1: murder Fred Hampton in his bed or take out a
Speaker 1: leader who has like this ground swell uprising of like
Speaker 1: populist support, like that is incredibly impactful. That just kneecaps
Speaker 1: any sort of movement, Like what what do you do
Speaker 1: after somebody gets away with the assassin aiding your most promising,
Speaker 1: most talented people and then nothing happens, Like no, there's
Speaker 1: no justice. Like that immediately takes all the power out
Speaker 1: of the you know, any any sort of ideals of
Speaker 1: justice in that society. And then we come in and
Speaker 1: be like, we've got to get at the root cause here, guys, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just someone keeps putting bombs on these people's planes. Huh,
Speaker 1: let's talk about Caitlyn Jenner. She has issued a new
Speaker 1: attack ad that is running. She's running neck dude coming
Speaker 1: for his headpiece right now, right, I mean, look, she's
Speaker 1: running as a Republican that's already the biggest head scratcher,
Speaker 1: you know, the party that's engaged in an active campaign
Speaker 1: to erase trans people. Okay, sure if I even get
Speaker 1: over that mental hurdle, this latest attack ad, it's almost like,
Speaker 1: do you not know who you are, Caitlyn Jenner and
Speaker 1: like the things you have access to? So this is
Speaker 1: her new ad that says that's calling Gavin Newsom King Newsom.
Speaker 1: Box eleven in Los Angeles obtained these photos of a
Speaker 1: governor and his wife at a party at the French Laundry,
Speaker 1: a Napa Valley restaurant, one of the most expensive on
Speaker 1: the West Coast. Nobody's faces were covered, but the governor
Speaker 1: has been preaching something different in public where your masks
Speaker 1: practice physical distancing. I think it's highly hypocritical of him.
Speaker 1: The governor just is not practicing what he preaches. Just
Speaker 1: that that that's factual. What on earth were you thinking?
Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom doesn't deserve to be our governor. That's it?
Speaker 1: And then it says Caitlyn for California. It's, first of all,
Speaker 1: congratulations on jib Jab for continuing to get product to
Speaker 1: mark this late because it was what it looks like,
Speaker 1: it was produced by jib Jab. That's all they That's
Speaker 1: all they have. Though. Like I thought, you know, when
Speaker 1: when people were talking about Gavin Newsoon being recalled be
Speaker 1: like around the French laundry thing, I thought that was
Speaker 1: going to be like a foothold that they then used
Speaker 1: to build a larger case about like you know, his
Speaker 1: mishandling of things. But that is that's he's based on that.
Speaker 1: That's what they got, man, That's all they got. Who
Speaker 1: is running your fucking campaign? That's I here's the thing,
Speaker 1: you know, Like I don't understand right, Like the French,
Speaker 1: I get it. I get the hypocrisy of him saying
Speaker 1: doing this and then yeah, you're popping off at the
Speaker 1: French laundry, okay, But like gender's missing the entire point
Speaker 1: even of like what what her own wealth is like
Speaker 1: while she's over there hurling things like this person thinks
Speaker 1: they're king hun. Can you believe how they're just louting
Speaker 1: ship with their ability because of their proximity to wealth
Speaker 1: and power and privilege that they can just skirt shit.
Speaker 1: I mean, mind you, Caitlyn Jenner killed somebody in a
Speaker 1: car accident because she was texting on her phone, and
Speaker 1: you know it was able to skirt charges even though
Speaker 1: that could have been a manslaughter charge. And what even
Speaker 1: had the audacity to tell the step children of the
Speaker 1: person that was killed, Oh, I don't owe them ship.
Speaker 1: It's not like they were supporting them and they want
Speaker 1: to come soon, like their their whole the whole energy
Speaker 1: from the gender camp was like, they don't, they don't
Speaker 1: deserve ship. So um, it's a i'm I'm I'm I'm
Speaker 1: starting to miss the part where Caitlyn Jenners is benevolent
Speaker 1: god who has a track record of not maybe doing
Speaker 1: the same ship that Gavin Newsom is. Even when you
Speaker 1: read like live pretty humbly miles like and the divorce
Speaker 1: from Chris Jenner, she was like, I'm not gonna I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna buy one of these like gaudy mansions like
Speaker 1: my kids, my kids live in. I'm just gonna buy
Speaker 1: a three thousand, five hundred square foot bedroom cliff top
Speaker 1: home in Malibille. Yeah, that's it's a humble, little okay,
Speaker 1: this is a direct quote. Yeah, it's a humble little place.
Speaker 1: I bought an airplane, just a small one, because I've
Speaker 1: always been into aviation and Kristen like that, so I've
Speaker 1: been out of it for fifteen years. I bought a
Speaker 1: couple of little race cars, she said, what what? Also
Speaker 1: on top of that, when they talk about their divorce.
Speaker 1: In the divorce, they said, Caitlin got the two fifty
Speaker 1: thousand dollar Sherwood country Club membership that Chris bought her
Speaker 1: two decades earlier. Oh oh wow, what you are a
Speaker 1: country club card, carrying private plane, flying little race car,
Speaker 1: having just oligar you real royalty too. I don't know
Speaker 1: what the funk you're trying to say here, like you're
Speaker 1: more real. People don't seem to hear that. Though. People
Speaker 1: don't seem to get that right because then, like the
Speaker 1: same thing happened with Trump, where people were like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's a straight shooter, he's a businessman, and it was
Speaker 1: like he's a businessman that's filed chapter eleven, what's wartime?
Speaker 1: What what do you mean? He's a successful businessman, you know,
Speaker 1: like the and it's interesting to me that she's steering
Speaker 1: the conversation into a battle on lifestyle, because that's one
Speaker 1: that the Kardashians can fight, you know, Like it's like
Speaker 1: when you're hanging out with your old grandpa whose memories
Speaker 1: kind of failing him, and every conversation they have, they
Speaker 1: sort of like steer towards the conversation that they know
Speaker 1: how to win, right, like hold on, hold on, wait,
Speaker 1: And we're talking about because their whole like their whole
Speaker 1: rhetoric right with like Kylie and everything is like the
Speaker 1: self made billionaire, you know, the self made Kardashians like
Speaker 1: this whole. Yeah. By the way, we need to take
Speaker 1: down the country clubs in Los Angeles. That needs to
Speaker 1: be well we'll do a longer story on that, but
Speaker 1: that is the parks that we fund, the parks that
Speaker 1: we fund for rich people that were not allowed into
Speaker 1: that have the most prime real estate in So Angeles.
Speaker 1: Four parks that are just playgrounds for fifty five year
Speaker 1: old fucking business executives to wine and dine each other. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this do enjoy some invisibility, don't they. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: it's it's wild. I mean anytime I remember the first
Speaker 1: time the the Wiltshire Country Club when I drove like
Speaker 1: when I saw what it actually was, I always just
Speaker 1: thought like it was this weird thing, like a like
Speaker 1: the back of a neighborhood that I didn't know what
Speaker 1: was going on. And then I knew somebody who's who's
Speaker 1: like they some kid on my hockey team. Their backyard
Speaker 1: butted up against it, and I was like, yeah, what's
Speaker 1: all this ship back here? They're like, oh, that's the
Speaker 1: country club. I'm like, the what the hunt? Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's in the middle of right where I've been walking
Speaker 1: through all the time, and I didn't know what the
Speaker 1: funk is this. There used to be this like golf
Speaker 1: course right in the middle of this housing complex where
Speaker 1: I grew up, and if they chucked a golf ball
Speaker 1: through your window, you just got like a five check
Speaker 1: on your door. Yeah, that's just yeah, we got people
Speaker 1: to take care of that for us, Thank you. Justice.
Speaker 1: That would be an interesting domino to fall, like if
Speaker 1: somehow there you could create enough of a ground swell
Speaker 1: publicly where like this, like the counties, like you know what,
Speaker 1: you're right, these need to be made public. I like
Speaker 1: people would courses, But yeah, I mean there's just it
Speaker 1: is truly like it. It will be the last domino
Speaker 1: to fall, because it is truly like all it's a
Speaker 1: combination of like the fact that we aren't aligarchy, so
Speaker 1: much of the power is held by the extremely wealthy.
Speaker 1: Extremely wealthy like cause it themselves in inside these like
Speaker 1: little clubs where the public can't get to them. Like
Speaker 1: it's so many things have to fall. But it seems
Speaker 1: like nobody other than this one Malcolm Gladwell podcast uh
Speaker 1: is making this case. And it feels like somebody needs
Speaker 1: to do that in the in the realm of politics.
Speaker 1: And I'm guessing Caitlyn Jenner is not going to do
Speaker 1: it since she is a member. Right. Oh God, if
Speaker 1: only we could get into the place where the surfs
Speaker 1: can't enter anyway, tell us more about King Gavin, right exactly,
Speaker 1: All right, let's take another quick break and we'll be
Speaker 1: right back. And we're back. And I wanted to check
Speaker 1: in with one of the newest anti vaxx or conspiracy theories.
Speaker 1: They're hard to keep up with. This one is actually
Speaker 1: kind of fun because they claimed that the vaccine makes
Speaker 1: you magnetic personality. I'm cheating at this point, sub the
Speaker 1: camera loves you a bitch. So the Ohio House Health
Speaker 1: committee had a meeting earlier this week in which Dr
Speaker 1: Sherry ten Penny testified in favor of a bill that
Speaker 1: would keep a business or the government from requiring vaccinations.
Speaker 1: And she ranted not only about five G, but how
Speaker 1: the vaccine will magnetize you, citing like any good medical
Speaker 1: professional would those quote pictures all over the internet. So
Speaker 1: she's previously advocated against the use of face masks and
Speaker 1: falsely claimed that the vaccine will mess up your sperm count.
Speaker 1: And then she was followed by a woman claiming to
Speaker 1: be a registered nurse who defended the magnet claim, offering
Speaker 1: as evidence how a key can stick to her chest,
Speaker 1: followed by repeated failed attempts to stick it to her neck.
Speaker 1: It wouldn't stick. You can have a little glue on there,
Speaker 1: just to cheat, come on now, and then confidently concluding yeah,
Speaker 1: she's like, I mean, look at this, and then after
Speaker 1: it didn't stick to her a number of times, she said, yeah,
Speaker 1: if somebody could explain this, that would be great. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're full of ships from the jack shooting from the jock.
Speaker 1: This tenpennies. That same woman we covered in the past
Speaker 1: who had that like boot camp for people who wanted
Speaker 1: to like be like anti vax or like, uh, just
Speaker 1: misinformation spreaders, like people will pay like six d bucks.
Speaker 1: And then she was like giving these people being like
Speaker 1: this is how you can like get in someone's head
Speaker 1: and get them all like uneasy about vaccines and like
Speaker 1: they did role playing and ship terrorism. Come on, hey,
Speaker 1: because it's a look, I'm just my opinions. These are
Speaker 1: my opinions. These are my opinions. But might as well
Speaker 1: be a chocolate cake mixed with oranges, right because I
Speaker 1: will reject it. So, videos and pictures of people sticking
Speaker 1: magnets and metal objects to their bodies have popped up
Speaker 1: on social media, prompting a COVID vaccine magnet challenge. This
Speaker 1: is a old trick that's used by you know, hucksters
Speaker 1: and magicians, and it's been debunked like decades ago, but
Speaker 1: probably hundreds of years ago. Right. First of all, from
Speaker 1: from the just vaccine perspective, the shot is less than
Speaker 1: a millimeter. So even if it was filled with a
Speaker 1: magnetic metal and we shouldn't have to say this, but
Speaker 1: it is not, it would not be enough to attract
Speaker 1: a magnet once it was spread through your body. If
Speaker 1: it did somehow contain that amount of metal. You just
Speaker 1: have a metal ball in your arm right there, and
Speaker 1: it would result in a lump and intense pain. So
Speaker 1: you noticed that right away. Also, microchips don't like this
Speaker 1: is supposed supposed to prove that they're microchips. Microchips down
Speaker 1: a track magnets. But there's metals in it, though, Jack,
Speaker 1: And that's the narrow thing I heard. So then go
Speaker 1: down this road. There's metals in it. But every instance
Speaker 1: of somebody claiming to be magnetic has been proven, all
Speaker 1: the ones that people were able to actually investigate, has
Speaker 1: been proven to just be they have sticky skin. You're oily,
Speaker 1: you're sweaty, and yeah, you're oily. When I was I
Speaker 1: did the same ship when I was thirteen going through puberty,
Speaker 1: and I could make a fucking spoons stick to my
Speaker 1: cheek or my nose, and everyone was laughing because I
Speaker 1: was a greasy skin, fucking turd boy, and I was like,
Speaker 1: ha ha, my gonna Blake's disgusting. I will wash that
Speaker 1: ship off. I'm not eating with these nose greased spoons
Speaker 1: like that. This is yeah, whatever, the worst wood tang
Speaker 1: ak is greasy skins turd boy. Grease skin turd boy.
Speaker 1: But the whole thing with this, the idea even if you,
Speaker 1: like anyone who's even ingested some kind of like metal
Speaker 1: arrant lee, like, you can that if there was any
Speaker 1: kind of magnetic force, you would feel that ship like
Speaker 1: it wouldn't just be like, oh, it's sticking to me.
Speaker 1: It's like, no, this thing is trying to rip through
Speaker 1: my skin on the other side because of the magnetic
Speaker 1: field or whatever. Because you know, like as I remember,
Speaker 1: the kid almost ate a magnet and I, yeah, a
Speaker 1: bunch of magnets and then my mom like and I
Speaker 1: was like what, And then I saw she showed me
Speaker 1: this thing about how like when it can enter your
Speaker 1: intestinal your your digestive system, like that if the magnets
Speaker 1: are separated, they will then cling within your body and
Speaker 1: cause tremendous damage. I'm a little old school. I still
Speaker 1: treat my incontinence with mercury. And it's no joke out here.
Speaker 1: I'm still looking less. But yeah, So James Randy the Grist,
Speaker 1: the Dearly Departed r I P Went on TV with
Speaker 1: a guy who claimed to have magnetic powers. This was
Speaker 1: like the humans can have magnetic powers, like Michael Jordan
Speaker 1: the guy that everyone's like, oh, yeah, you don't think
Speaker 1: he has we you have magnetic powers. Look at this guy.
Speaker 1: He is straight up magnetic. And he demonstrated his magnetic
Speaker 1: powers to the amazement of the audience. And then James
Speaker 1: Ramsey Randy simply applied talcum powder to the guy's skin
Speaker 1: and suddenly his nothing would stick to him because you
Speaker 1: put on me, hold on, hold on, now, we need
Speaker 1: to talk to James Randy because she was working before
Speaker 1: he made my skin less sticky. But this is like
Speaker 1: something that pops up every like ten years and ten
Speaker 1: years ago, a seven year old Serbian kid claimed to
Speaker 1: be magnetized and even full to MSNBC. But it too
Speaker 1: was just that he was quote a particularly sticky boy.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm more interested in that. I have to say,
Speaker 1: I saw that porn particularly sticky boy. What was it,
Speaker 1: mal sixty nine? A subway sandwich, sandwich. I'm more interested
Speaker 1: in the science of particularly sticky people. Like that's fun
Speaker 1: to me. It's like, yo, I don't know, man, my
Speaker 1: cousin the stickiest motherfucker have you ever met? What is
Speaker 1: going on with you know? Something comes out of our
Speaker 1: skin when we're when we're teenagers is just yeah that
Speaker 1: they should be also a shower and tell everyone I'm magnetic.
Speaker 1: Yeah there you go. Yeah, yeah, whatever you're However, your
Speaker 1: magnetically charged is actually repelling people somehow. So that's how
Speaker 1: I know I'm also magnetic and it's not the odor.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the cruise line industry, an industry that
Speaker 1: I I have sworn off. I was, I've sworn I'd
Speaker 1: never go on a cruise ship, and then I inadvertly
Speaker 1: emails with the deals. Yeah, these deals are unbelievable. All
Speaker 1: you can eat. Yeah, we'll see about that. But yeah,
Speaker 1: there there's a kid's book with a picture of a
Speaker 1: cruise ship in it that my kids are now like,
Speaker 1: that's all it has, going a cruise ship. So there's
Speaker 1: already so many comic friends of mine that are doing
Speaker 1: cruises again. Yeah, like performing. Yeah, they're already into it.
Speaker 1: It's back. You want to know. Another anecdotal thing that
Speaker 1: is changing now that the world's opening back up is
Speaker 1: insurance companies are pressuring therapists to no longer basically saying
Speaker 1: we won't we won't pay for therapy unless it's done
Speaker 1: in person, because yeah, too many people have used therapy
Speaker 1: and now insurance companies that are like, well, this isn't
Speaker 1: as much of a money maker even though it's like
Speaker 1: the best thing for the mental health. That's how insurance works. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't get to same. Wait a minute, my profit
Speaker 1: margins not what it was. Is exactly how insurance works.
Speaker 1: Because even United Healthcare is like we may say no
Speaker 1: to like emergency room visits. Soon it's like wait, what, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's bad. Oh my god. But they're all based off
Speaker 1: of laws during is it George w Is that right?
Speaker 1: Or is it Clinton? Those healthcare laws that make it
Speaker 1: so that they can debate these things like these used
Speaker 1: to not be debated, right, yeah, right, it's like no,
Speaker 1: these are these should be standards like whoa what if
Speaker 1: a lot of people need help? Can you really have
Speaker 1: market economy if you can't starved enough. I mean, come on,
Speaker 1: if you can't die because you're too poor, then how
Speaker 1: are we really going to motivate people to get out
Speaker 1: there and work. But they're back into it. But yeah,
Speaker 1: so there is a plan for the cruise industry to
Speaker 1: open back up. A key point of this plan was
Speaker 1: that the CDC is requiring cruise ships to make sure
Speaker 1: that the vast majority of people on board have been
Speaker 1: fully vaccinated, that is, of crew members of passengers, which
Speaker 1: is a super high standard. But cruise ships are basically
Speaker 1: like floating cities where everybody just like strangers, are cramped together.
Speaker 1: And one thing that I hadn't realized is that like,
Speaker 1: in order to make money off of, you know, what
Speaker 1: appeared to be very expensive ships based on you know,
Speaker 1: my research, now that I have to research it, they
Speaker 1: just like they turned that ship around like once one
Speaker 1: cruise ends, the next cruise like piles in there. It's like,
Speaker 1: you know with airlines when we've realized they weren't cleaning
Speaker 1: the planes in between flights, and it's basically like you're
Speaker 1: flying in a dumpster. Why do we all hate cruises? Again? Too?
Speaker 1: It was oh yeah, COVID just terrible for the environment,
Speaker 1: ye are they? And just like all the yeah, just
Speaker 1: the fuel it takes and it's and then on top
Speaker 1: of that the cookie labor laws for flying like international
Speaker 1: flags and being like, I don't know whose country standards
Speaker 1: we treat these employees do there we're in the sea. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I was just getting this. Alaska cruise deals three hundred
Speaker 1: bucks right now? Three bucks is what they'll pay you
Speaker 1: and you can. It's really action pack because you can
Speaker 1: actually watch the glaciers melting from global warming and watch
Speaker 1: the big while you contribute to it. Yeah, glacier still
Speaker 1: there are. The one cruise I went on was like
Speaker 1: when my grandmother was still alive. It was like when
Speaker 1: she she just wanted to go on a cruise really bad,
Speaker 1: and so we went like she so she was a
Speaker 1: lot older, but I was like fuck it. I mean,
Speaker 1: I've been on a real cruise and we went to
Speaker 1: Alaska ship and one of the stops was like, let's
Speaker 1: go through a glacier field and it's like just bums
Speaker 1: you out. You're like, it looks like a bunch of
Speaker 1: rocks and a couple of ice things. And they're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: well all right, maybe we'll turn around now. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: What if we just had a cruise line labeled after
Speaker 1: just like climb a disaster. It just like a cruise
Speaker 1: called like two years Left of Whales. Right, let's go.
Speaker 1: But what's the name of that plastic island? Didn't they
Speaker 1: name gyre the Pacific garbage gyre? Trash trash gyre, that
Speaker 1: would be a good name for a bit alright, or
Speaker 1: a boat, the trash gyre border beautiful Royal Caribbean cruise
Speaker 1: trash gyre. Yeah, the ss NERO virus, so that that
Speaker 1: seems like open and shut, Like okay, the CDC got
Speaker 1: the cruise industry to agree to this. The cruise industry obviously,
Speaker 1: like they would be the ones who would fight against this.
Speaker 1: They agreed to it. Obviously, they had a very rough
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen so they are probably more aware than anyone that,
Speaker 1: like they need to be careful and like that those
Speaker 1: high standards are probably necessary. Enter Rhonda Santis and the
Speaker 1: state of Florida or the government of Florida. So he's
Speaker 1: currently using COVID conspiracy theories to basically reboot the red Scare,
Speaker 1: and he signed an executive order in April banning any
Speaker 1: kind of vaccine passport in the state. What, yeah, why
Speaker 1: would you ban that? Our writer Jay speculated that he
Speaker 1: might be a bunch of COVID molecule standing on each
Speaker 1: other's shoulders inside a trench coatnetism exactly. But the order
Speaker 1: mentions protecting the free flow of commerce in quotes, while
Speaker 1: also banning any business from requiring customers to prove that
Speaker 1: they've been vaccinated. So basically he's shutting down. He's so
Speaker 1: he's making what the CDC and the federal government has
Speaker 1: mandated illegal in Florida. So now there's like this Florida
Speaker 1: versus the federal government case that is holding up like
Speaker 1: the cruise industry's ability to reopen um. You know, some cruises,
Speaker 1: like one Norwegian Cruise I think is choosing just to
Speaker 1: not come from Florida, even though I think it's like, uh,
Speaker 1: most US cruises leave from Florida or a large percentage
Speaker 1: of them. But then Royal Caribbean Cruise they're basically being like, no,
Speaker 1: De Santis is right, We're we're not gonna funk with
Speaker 1: that CDC thing. And they had been like with it
Speaker 1: before and they're like, yeah, but we thought that that
Speaker 1: just meant that you had to do that level of
Speaker 1: testing for the test run and not the actual like
Speaker 1: when we have customers one, So that's why we did
Speaker 1: it before just complete Yeah, well yeah, it's I can't
Speaker 1: imagine a more doomed cruise line. Yeah that what I whatever.
Speaker 1: I mean this is people are have their own bizarre
Speaker 1: calculus in their risk assessment, and it's like in this one,
Speaker 1: you're like, as an industry. Yeah, or I would call
Speaker 1: it crayon math on the back dropping bag. But like
Speaker 1: whatever this calculations are even for like the fucking cruise lines,
Speaker 1: like y'all took the biggest l because of that Diamond
Speaker 1: Princess fiasco and they're like, Yo, this whole boat is
Speaker 1: just COVID and what's going on? Then Tom Tod would
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, we're not. I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I guess we'll put more hand sanitizing stations out. That's you,
Speaker 1: you know what you're setting yourself up for. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: inherently because these are closed environments that you have a
Speaker 1: bunch of people, especially when you get in those lower decks,
Speaker 1: like where's the ventilation coming from? Like what do you know? Okay? God?
Speaker 1: And also cruise ships like they're going over international waters,
Speaker 1: like how are they even negotiating that? Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I think it's the sport that they leave from, right,
Speaker 1: is at least part of the part of the calculus
Speaker 1: or subtraction. This morning, I read in the Washington Post.
Speaker 1: I don't know why I just said I read it.
Speaker 1: I literally looked at a video clip on someone's story
Speaker 1: that I read it. That's what reading is. Now even
Speaker 1: the crayon math in my brain drew a picture of
Speaker 1: me with a newspaper like holding it up. Oh, I
Speaker 1: like reading pictures if they were saying that the pandemic
Speaker 1: is on the rise, higher than it's ever been all
Speaker 1: over the world. Right, So like, is this the is
Speaker 1: this like a bizarre US strategy to like spread COVID
Speaker 1: because our infrastructure can supposedly handle it and compare to
Speaker 1: other countries we want to wreck like what I think
Speaker 1: just like viruses don't work like that. They're not you
Speaker 1: can't just like contain them like that like you can
Speaker 1: a missile strike or something like. It's not you can't
Speaker 1: direct it that way. Yeah, it's it's just that, Like
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just me assuming we're just like infecting
Speaker 1: people and sending them out word into the world, which
Speaker 1: I think is where we would be headed if taking
Speaker 1: a cruise ship from Florida. Yeah, thank god COVID's not real,
Speaker 1: But it was that that is interesting because now like
Speaker 1: Royal Caribbean cruise will be like probably Republican on on
Speaker 1: board and yeah, right vibe quick vibe checking like well,
Speaker 1: this is the one that doesn't require us to be
Speaker 1: safe or whatever. And you know it's a it's a
Speaker 1: it's a fucking nightmare. But then not sleep with a Republican. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you look at just like, yeah, we we have these
Speaker 1: blind spots, like, well, the vaccinations rates are very high
Speaker 1: here compared to everywhere else, and like most Americans are like, well,
Speaker 1: I don't have a real context rain that's happening globally
Speaker 1: aside from like narrowly what I'm seeing in front of
Speaker 1: me anecdotally, so I'm assuming everything is great. And yeah,
Speaker 1: like you said, it's it's still ravaging the planet and
Speaker 1: we still have, you know, a terrible way of distributing
Speaker 1: vaccines to places that need them. So I don't know
Speaker 1: what goes on. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: like in my mind, I'm thinking, like, come on, capitalists,
Speaker 1: like you know, you need consumers that aren't dying to
Speaker 1: buy your ship. So yeah, but who of you to
Speaker 1: make sure, like what story we need? Everybody can't have
Speaker 1: any more dead customers the top industries in America? Is
Speaker 1: that what the stimulus package was. The stimulus package was
Speaker 1: just like we're gonna let everybody just get infected and
Speaker 1: so and we're gonna this is our this is our money.
Speaker 1: While we watch that happen just well, real quick, I
Speaker 1: do want to end on a happy note. They're fifteen
Speaker 1: Chinese elephants on a three ernie in China across the continent.
Speaker 1: Scientists don't know why they're doing it, but they usually
Speaker 1: don't run very far from their normal habitat. They're going
Speaker 1: across the continent. They've rated farms for food and water,
Speaker 1: visiting a card dealership. They've been caught trotting down urban
Speaker 1: streets by security cameras at night, and you know they're
Speaker 1: in danger. But fortunately they're being like followed by a
Speaker 1: swarm of drones that are just like keeping tabs on
Speaker 1: them so that they don't get hurt and so they
Speaker 1: don't hurt anyone. So the main consequence of this has
Speaker 1: been a lot of adorable pictures of elephants sleeping in
Speaker 1: big packs next to one another. They're spooning. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I love it. I mean, it's like it is. It
Speaker 1: is a little frightening though, too is. I think when
Speaker 1: we're kind of just first talking about it's like what
Speaker 1: if one if those drones are like they're like funk,
Speaker 1: We're getting chased by those fucking electric birds. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: gotta go, right, that's what it's actually driving them. Like
Speaker 1: what's their deal? Why do they keep going? Uh, get
Speaker 1: closer and like put the noises out and put more
Speaker 1: noises on them. But yeah, I don't know. I just
Speaker 1: I god, I I like as whimsical as it is,
Speaker 1: Like I hope it's not like things like and that's
Speaker 1: when we knew the earth is dying? Right, Yeah, truly
Speaker 1: that's what. Yeah, that would be like just in that
Speaker 1: our bizarre films, like it was the elephants should have
Speaker 1: seen it coming other stuff. I feel like this is
Speaker 1: the closest that we've come to, Like when you have
Speaker 1: a really drunk friend who you're trying to like babysit,
Speaker 1: and I'm more associated with like somebody who is like
Speaker 1: just going through eating everything, knocking ship over, and you're
Speaker 1: just like, oh so you don't want to don't let
Speaker 1: it put their head, They're gonna hit the Heady're gonnah
Speaker 1: the head right? You threw that pillow down right at
Speaker 1: the a second, Zara, it's been such a pleasure as
Speaker 1: always having you on. I would hold your hair while
Speaker 1: you puke. That means so much to me. I will
Speaker 1: take you up on that where can people find you?
Speaker 1: Follow you, fund you Zara Comedy, z A h R
Speaker 1: A comedy. I'm working on my comedy special. It's in
Speaker 1: post production. It's my birthday. I've got a raise ten
Speaker 1: thousand dollars this summer. Help me out so I can
Speaker 1: get you guys some clips. I can come on back here,
Speaker 1: we can celebrate some jokes. Yeah, last time, I think
Speaker 1: you came on your birthday a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: I remember, didn't you, And then like we had like
Speaker 1: a wine fund for you. Yeah, thanks for that. I
Speaker 1: drank it, go wasted, gave birth to a puppy. Now here,
Speaker 1: I am just single mom and uh and is there
Speaker 1: a tweet or some of the work of social media
Speaker 1: you've been enjoying? Okay, I was trying to find a
Speaker 1: good one to compete with, y'all. I'm I'm forty one now,
Speaker 1: and I still can't do it. Yours are still going
Speaker 1: to be funnier than mine. I don't. I still don't
Speaker 1: understand how people research on Twitter, because like, find funny
Speaker 1: on Twitter, find anything. I get distracted in about like
Speaker 1: two seconds, I'll wind up looking at baby ducks. And
Speaker 1: but okay, I found a he man gift. That's just
Speaker 1: words I can't pronounce. That's just making me feel really old.
Speaker 1: He man. Twink photos? What's podas? What's photos? You guys?
Speaker 1: Is that a new one? Is it podaccio? I have
Speaker 1: no idea. You mean the twink for days? Is that
Speaker 1: what it's saying? Four days? Four days? Fo days? All right? Yeah,
Speaker 1: pretend this never happened. Miles Where can people find you?
Speaker 1: What's a tweet you've been enjoying? To to chowg for
Speaker 1: me to understand? Twitter, Instagram at Miles of Gray. Also
Speaker 1: check out the other one if you like ninety day fiance,
Speaker 1: come hear me ramble about that and some tweets that
Speaker 1: I like. Co boy, I got a couple here. And
Speaker 1: when I say a couple, I mean one actually, no two.
Speaker 1: First one is from past guest Tory Glass at tory
Speaker 1: Glass tweeted, I'm thirty six and literally the only way
Speaker 1: I can figure out if I should use desert or
Speaker 1: dessert is stressed is desserts spelled backwards. And shout out
Speaker 1: to people who still have to have those things in
Speaker 1: their minds to like remember how to spouse ship because
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, just knowing the order of the letters
Speaker 1: wasn't enough, and another one from at Rob Delaney. Rob
Speaker 1: Delaney tweeted, Guys, my friend Mike, who works in VFX,
Speaker 1: made a crazy realistic deep fake of my wife making
Speaker 1: out her karate teacher. I found in our email my
Speaker 1: wife and I share and I am dying. He's so funny.
Speaker 1: This is the only possible explanation making out with her
Speaker 1: karate teachers. I know. Did you know in the etymology
Speaker 1: of desserts it did used to be deserts? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, the saying this is the one ideo my
Speaker 1: not get your just desserts deserts hm, because it used
Speaker 1: to be based on desserts, like what you deserve dessert? Yeah, learning,
Speaker 1: we're learning. The way I learned it is you want
Speaker 1: more desserts, So more sss and desserts. That's a new thing, right,
Speaker 1: that's new. Oh yeah, yeah, I'm not contradicting. I'm just
Speaker 1: giving people a helpful Thank god, it got it, got it.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm so sorry. It's okay, I'll hold your hair.
Speaker 1: Let's see a tweet I've been enjoying Tammy here at
Speaker 1: Dances with Tam. Tammy's just tweeted, how about when vampires
Speaker 1: move off fast. Well the fund is that ship very great?
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Speaker 1: our foot where we link off to the information that
Speaker 1: we talked about in today's episode, as well as the
Speaker 1: song we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song are
Speaker 1: we linking off too in the foot note? Oh my,
Speaker 1: one of my favorite bands, Hiatus Coyote. They got a
Speaker 1: new album coming out, but they have a single out
Speaker 1: called Red Room. Uh. And this is Red Room by
Speaker 1: Hiatus Coyote, great band from Australia. I really encourage people
Speaker 1: if you love funky bands and you're like, damn, they're
Speaker 1: so good. Hiatus Coyote is one of those bands, like
Speaker 1: you just can't believe how locked in they are as
Speaker 1: a band, and they're so funky and talented. Uh. And
Speaker 1: I'm excited for the new album and this one the
Speaker 1: mixing on theesel rim shots at the drummer's playing like
Speaker 1: make your next snap off. So please check out Red Room. Alright,
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