Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of the
Speaker 1: Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from
Speaker 1: this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment last stravaganza.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, So, without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist. Miles,
Speaker 1: we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat
Speaker 1: once again by a correspondent, a stand up comedian who
Speaker 1: you know as the host and head writer of the
Speaker 1: series News Broke, the MSNBC special Red White and who
Speaker 1: correspondent on that Geo's Explorer, and as a regular commentator
Speaker 1: on Young Turk's network, the Bituation Room podcast. She's been
Speaker 1: on Love It or Leave It, and it is just
Speaker 1: a very funny comedian. Francesco. Yeah, I don't interrupt my
Speaker 1: my intro, Miles, And this is part two of a
Speaker 1: Francesco Fiorentini. Hi, Hi, Francesco Fiorentini. Francesco Fiorentini, How are you.
Speaker 1: I I'm good. Yeah, this is a little bit of
Speaker 1: a part two because my fiance was on yesterday Matt
Speaker 1: Le Matt Leave, and I know he told a lot
Speaker 1: of just just put out all the dirty laundry, yeah,
Speaker 1: of our perfect engagement. And I'm not going to go
Speaker 1: back and choreographic re choreographic correctly and hire a photographer.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna need some reshoots, a little extra budget
Speaker 1: for the reshoots on this one. Um, this time, you're
Speaker 1: gonna ask that he not proposed to you with a
Speaker 1: blue raspberry ring? Pop? Is that correct? I really wish
Speaker 1: he had him because it would have been far less expensive.
Speaker 1: He sounded so stressed. Yes, O, man, I gotta, I
Speaker 1: gotta figure out what to do with this thing. I feel.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing when you buy a ring. First of all,
Speaker 1: don't consult sex in the city, because I know he
Speaker 1: did that like fifteen years later. And then number two,
Speaker 1: don't ask my brother. Don't ask the only man you
Speaker 1: know of my fa like my brother wraps Christmas gifts
Speaker 1: in newspaper still like at the age of thirty six,
Speaker 1: you're or forties forty now, like this is the kind
Speaker 1: of like he was like, Oh, so you know you
Speaker 1: imagine the jeweler, imagine the jeweler just like the door
Speaker 1: opens and you see matt Leeb's face just like all
Speaker 1: dumb and in love, and you're just like, yes, oh buddy,
Speaker 1: did your brother at least wrap it in the comics section,
Speaker 1: of course tasteful. It's not like yeah, it's like the
Speaker 1: international news, you know, like drought. And I remember like
Speaker 1: one of the first birthdays where my like, you know,
Speaker 1: because of head enormousy, my mom was wrapping the gifts
Speaker 1: when I will go to a birthday party, like you know, like, okay,
Speaker 1: take your gift. This is the gift for the party.
Speaker 1: And where my mom was out of town once and
Speaker 1: my dad had to wrap a gift and he did
Speaker 1: in the in the funnies, you know, the comics the newspaper,
Speaker 1: and I was so bummed out. I'm like, yo, this
Speaker 1: looks like drash, Dad, this is newspaper. He's like, it's
Speaker 1: the Funnies. Man. At least it's not like auto trading
Speaker 1: section or whatever. And I was look, I was just
Speaker 1: so mortified at like seven years old, pulling up to
Speaker 1: Pistol PiZZ pizza place well with this jankie as gift.
Speaker 1: But anyway, was it for a child? Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: for another kid. Oh I see you man, it was
Speaker 1: for pistol Pete Maravich. I thought you were Actually it
Speaker 1: was like it was like a chucky cheese type place.
Speaker 1: We had a pistol PiZZ Yeah, where did you grow up? Arkansas?
Speaker 1: Like not what? Oh yeah, that's yeah my favorite Valley
Speaker 1: Shotgun show because that sounds like okay, okay, l a
Speaker 1: has been Ellie's a mess. Okay. In a place that
Speaker 1: was a kids of restaurant in the early nineties, you know,
Speaker 1: I wasn't expecting anything remotely close to relevant or culturally sensitive.
Speaker 1: I love, I really want kids to understand the kinds
Speaker 1: of birthday parties and the plate the JANKI ass places
Speaker 1: that we had our birthday parties. You like Rocky and
Speaker 1: Bowl Winkles with like the animatronic like like how scary
Speaker 1: and haunting? Get like somehow we loved it? At least
Speaker 1: that's I love Rocky and Bowl Winkles. Um, wait, where
Speaker 1: where's Where's Rocky and Bull? It was up in the
Speaker 1: Bay Bay area and it doesn't exist anymore. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think someonem got canceled. I don't know who you know?
Speaker 1: How it is these pizza places? Right? No? I meant
Speaker 1: like Rocky your Bowl Winkle, I did some shady ship, Matt.
Speaker 1: We like to ask our guests, what is something from
Speaker 1: your search history that's revealing about who you are? Oh? Absolutely. Um,
Speaker 1: here's one how to sell a brand new engagement ring.
Speaker 1: That's uh, that's an there. Now that sounds confusing because
Speaker 1: you're like, but Matt, you just said you were engaged.
Speaker 1: Well I am. She said yes to me, she said
Speaker 1: no to the ring, and uh yeah, so I bought
Speaker 1: a real, real bad ring, and yes, this is I thought,
Speaker 1: I say, all right, the engagement Well, dude, I bought
Speaker 1: a really bad ring. What happened? Okay, So she sent me, like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, a couple of months ago, she sent
Speaker 1: me a picture of a ring she thought was cute,
Speaker 1: and so I was like, looking too, I wanted to
Speaker 1: buy that ring because I had no visual I I
Speaker 1: don't know what looks good. Like. We watched Sex in
Speaker 1: the City once and like Aidan bought carry a pear
Speaker 1: shaped engagement ring, and like a parent and and all
Speaker 1: of the girls sitting around like Samantha and Charlotte. Then
Speaker 1: we're just like, oh, pear shaped. I had no idea
Speaker 1: pear shaped was bad. So I knew not to get
Speaker 1: a pear shaped I knew that much. And then so
Speaker 1: I went to first I went to Tiffany's, and then
Speaker 1: that was really expensive, so I went to the jewelry
Speaker 1: shop across the street from Tiffany's, and it was like cheaper.
Speaker 1: And then I just kept showing them like what I
Speaker 1: want is a square in a circle. I don't want
Speaker 1: a diamond, like a conflict stone. And so they didn't
Speaker 1: have exactly what I was looking for. So they they
Speaker 1: made one custom which turns out when you do that
Speaker 1: first year, you can't return it, and also you have
Speaker 1: to pay up front. And also it was kind of
Speaker 1: created from pictures of better rings, uh, and then kind
Speaker 1: of mashed together. And then so the day of I
Speaker 1: went in and it's like it's a London blue topaz.
Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna be like a light blue.
Speaker 1: This is really blue. It's like it looks like a
Speaker 1: like a Jolly Rancher blue raspberry yeah yeah, which is
Speaker 1: a delicious flavor, but it looks really bad on a ring.
Speaker 1: And so I I bought that, and then as soon
Speaker 1: as I got it, I had a panic attack because
Speaker 1: I knew it was the opposite of what she wanted.
Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna be small, but because it's
Speaker 1: blue topaz and it's like kind of a cheap semi
Speaker 1: precious stone, it was real big, like it looks like
Speaker 1: seven year old, like Florida Jewish Lady jewelry. And yeah,
Speaker 1: so I ended up. You're looking for a ring, hit
Speaker 1: mad up. Yeah, you're looking for a beautiful blue topaz
Speaker 1: ring that's not part of the sea from Titanic. It does,
Speaker 1: it's like that, but it's like, you know, it's blue
Speaker 1: or somehow. And yeah, and it's not a conflict stone,
Speaker 1: although it became one when she saw it, and she
Speaker 1: she definitely did not she did not like it, but
Speaker 1: we're still in love. You had a sense, you had
Speaker 1: a sense going in and I have this, my lady. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh I knew. I knew as soon as I got it.
Speaker 1: I fucked up. And what I didn't know? Tiffany's it's
Speaker 1: from TIFFs yah yeah yeah yeah, Hey tiff can you
Speaker 1: make me a ring for way too much money? A
Speaker 1: photo line? Yeah yeah, I'll mash him together and photo
Speaker 1: shop and I'll get you something approximating something I would like.
Speaker 1: It's a beautiful ring. If you like, you know, if
Speaker 1: you like something kind of gaudy. But if if you don't,
Speaker 1: still buy it from me. Uh please someone buy the ring.
Speaker 1: So we got another ring, uh that that she loves
Speaker 1: that's coming in the mail. But yeah, I got this
Speaker 1: this other one though, if anyone it's really hard to sell, dude. Yeah,
Speaker 1: no one told me. I wish someone had told me that.
Speaker 1: I wish I had asked. That's what I wish more
Speaker 1: than anything is that I yeah, do a it'll do daily. Um.
Speaker 1: But instead I was like, I got this. What's the
Speaker 1: worst second happened? Take just steal my money. But we're
Speaker 1: about to get silly. We're about to get silly. All
Speaker 1: that do delly King of the Hilly Anyways, I'm yeah, so, uh,
Speaker 1: that's the last thing I googled how to sell and
Speaker 1: it's brand new, never used. You know. She wouldn't even
Speaker 1: put it on. She didn't. She was just looked at
Speaker 1: it when she went uh oh wow. Yeah. But I
Speaker 1: proposed by getting down on one knee and proposing with
Speaker 1: the box, but it wasn't open. And then she I
Speaker 1: waited for her to say yes first and then and
Speaker 1: then she was like, we'll show me the ring and
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, but it's the worst part. And
Speaker 1: then I opened it and I was like, you still
Speaker 1: marry me? And she was like, oh, not with that ring.
Speaker 1: And then she kissed me and uh yeah, and uh
Speaker 1: we're still in love though, you know. So it's it's fine,
Speaker 1: that's good. It's all about honestly, you know. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: if anyone has any stock tips um or just like
Speaker 1: any like way to recoup a few grand, just let
Speaker 1: me know. You know, I'll sell some drugs. I don't
Speaker 1: give a funk anymore. You're going to take a few
Speaker 1: flights to believe you for me. I am down, dude,
Speaker 1: I got I got a cavernous coal and you can
Speaker 1: shove whatever whatever drugs you need in there. Dude, I will,
Speaker 1: you know, I'll help out. I'm just trying to help. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: my engagement ring put me in so much debt. But
Speaker 1: did she take it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, well that's nice.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah she she like specifically picked it out. Yeah
Speaker 1: that's smart. That's a good way of doing it. But
Speaker 1: then she was still surprised. I don't know, she must
Speaker 1: have like put a mental block, being like, but he'll
Speaker 1: never actually do it because yeah, yeah, no, she well
Speaker 1: she was surprised too, you know. Yeah. She's like, you
Speaker 1: look so gaunt, Jack when you propose like I sold
Speaker 1: all my blood. Yeah, it's there's something to be said
Speaker 1: for being a idiot, because like I was able to
Speaker 1: get her to the location where I had like set
Speaker 1: up this bar, which was the first place I ever
Speaker 1: told her I loved her. Was surprisingly an Irish bar.
Speaker 1: I was, I was pretty drunk, uh and I had
Speaker 1: like set up the basement of the bar. But the
Speaker 1: way I got her there was being like I forgot
Speaker 1: my fucking credit card at the at a puck fair again.
Speaker 1: She's like, okay, fine, we'll go back there at So
Speaker 1: you started it with a test of her relationship. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: you started it with a possible crisis, like can you yeah,
Speaker 1: passages in Malibu? Yeah, yeah, Yeah. What is something you
Speaker 1: think is overrated? I think winter? I can can go
Speaker 1: suck a lemon, don't eat it. We like, if you're
Speaker 1: in the southern hemisphere, I'm sorry, but we're out of
Speaker 1: that season, and I'm really glad about it. It's there's
Speaker 1: nothing actually good about it, and and we can forget it.
Speaker 1: This this is the best time right now. Yeah? Are
Speaker 1: you spring has spring uh sprung? Or are you getting
Speaker 1: into the summer days where where you are on the
Speaker 1: East Coast? Yeah, in North Carolina, we're getting real summer
Speaker 1: and so it is hot but I don't know. I
Speaker 1: I grew up with winter outside Chicago, and then I
Speaker 1: went to college and winter in Syracuse, and as soon
Speaker 1: as I wasn't there, I like, I went to college
Speaker 1: in winter. Yeah, it's just like when it comes to Syracuse,
Speaker 1: that is winter. It is a geographic location where winter
Speaker 1: has come and continues to stay. Yeah, it doesn't doesn't
Speaker 1: miss around. Yeah did you miss it when you lived
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles? Not even a little bit. It was amazing.
Speaker 1: I just I was like, oh, you can just not
Speaker 1: deal with this. Fantastic it was an option this whole time,
Speaker 1: just south of us. You know, it's great. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: missed the rhythm a little bit, not enough to ever
Speaker 1: move away from Los Angeles, but I do enjoy just
Speaker 1: the discomfort and shittiness of the rest of the country
Speaker 1: has to put up with. No. Uh. It does like
Speaker 1: kind of break up time a little bit in a
Speaker 1: way that makes long term memory easier to comprehend. But
Speaker 1: it also breaks up outfits nicely. Yeah, that is the
Speaker 1: one that is the one thing that I missed. It's like,
Speaker 1: I totally agree with you where it's like winter totally
Speaker 1: can suck a lemon. I'm not with it. I don't
Speaker 1: want slashing my boots, but I do miss being able
Speaker 1: to wear a long coat in that fall area right
Speaker 1: before winter, when it's like, oh it's nice to bundle
Speaker 1: a little bit put a scarf on. I miss that, Whereas,
Speaker 1: like you know, it could be the most warming up
Speaker 1: I will do was putting on slightly thicker sweatpants out
Speaker 1: here in outlay. And that's it, you know, And I
Speaker 1: would love to put a code on again. That just
Speaker 1: sounds nice. Yeah, People who grew up in l A
Speaker 1: like fetishized winter, like Miles and Daniel, they have winter
Speaker 1: outfits for no reason for yeah, like maybe those three
Speaker 1: days we traveled to the East coast for Thanksgiving and
Speaker 1: that's about it. Yeah. I want I want winter as
Speaker 1: a treat for a little bit, right, I want I want,
Speaker 1: like I want to briefly watch the Peanuts go ice
Speaker 1: skating and especially and then it's cold outside for the
Speaker 1: two days a minute and then forgetting little that was
Speaker 1: enough like yeah, oh little taste fun. Yeah. And finally, Blair,
Speaker 1: what is something that you think is underrated? Okay, guys,
Speaker 1: I just got to be straight up with you. Chip
Speaker 1: clips are incredible. Okay, you will not catch my cereal
Speaker 1: getting stale, No fucking way. Thank you God for this
Speaker 1: sophisticated us inf sun that just brings joy and laser
Speaker 1: execution into my life. Chip Clips are the silent, subtle
Speaker 1: assassin of adding overwhelming value while asking for little to
Speaker 1: no recognition. Chip clicks are the Scottie Pippen of how
Speaker 1: Wold Kitchen, where yes, that's totally is it? Am I
Speaker 1: like fucked up for not realizing that, Yeah, that I've
Speaker 1: never I've never sealed the cereal outside of like the
Speaker 1: box that's brilliant. One day, I just was walking by
Speaker 1: in the store and it was like a little thing
Speaker 1: sticking out in the aisle, you know, and I just
Speaker 1: grabbed like a whole like a um, it had like
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of them on one thing. And from
Speaker 1: that day on the amount of just my life improved,
Speaker 1: Skyrock did. And it's like I'm putting those chip clips
Speaker 1: on on frozen diss and chips and cereal and it's
Speaker 1: just incredible. It really is, Like, which is it the
Speaker 1: ones that you it's like the straight bar so it's
Speaker 1: like a hair clip one or the one that's more
Speaker 1: like a binder clip, because you know, there's there's different
Speaker 1: chip bag clipping technoque different one. I think if the
Speaker 1: second one is kind of like elegant, where I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is it's that kind of it's a binder clip. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Mine is actually not like a binder one. It's more
Speaker 1: um fastened like a close pin, but just um really
Speaker 1: sleek plastic and wow it works really good. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: remember as a kid, I think because this the frequency
Speaker 1: at which I would eat cereal, it wasn't really time
Speaker 1: for it to get stale, you know, because like it
Speaker 1: would probably be like a boxing cereal, probably be done
Speaker 1: within a week or so. And then I remember like
Speaker 1: going to kids houses and like you know, like their
Speaker 1: parents had like the ship in like the tupperware, and
Speaker 1: like they would pour it out of like a and
Speaker 1: I would always be like, you don't even know what
Speaker 1: you know that the box on the other funck is stupid.
Speaker 1: And then I'm like, yeah, that ship is way fresher.
Speaker 1: How am I supposed to know what that is? If
Speaker 1: there's not a cartoon? I know, but that just shows
Speaker 1: you by the child brain at the time, like many
Speaker 1: cocoa Chris, I can't I can't tell about the robbers
Speaker 1: on it. I like the taste of stale food, and
Speaker 1: so sometimes I'll like not clip the chips, and then
Speaker 1: it creates household issues because Isaac will be like, you're
Speaker 1: a little mouse, like why are you doing this? Why
Speaker 1: are the chips like soft? But I kind of like
Speaker 1: when the chips are soft, wow, So you like you're
Speaker 1: not You're down with a little bit of stale chip?
Speaker 1: You I love. I love a stale chip in a
Speaker 1: flat soda. I don't know what like I should should
Speaker 1: I should just walk into the ocean. I need just
Speaker 1: natural contrarians. Yeah, it's true. It's true. If anyone prefers
Speaker 1: a stale chip, let me know, because it truly, like
Speaker 1: doesn't bother me at all. I enjoy it. I wonder man,
Speaker 1: that could be an interesting That's like your circular hot
Speaker 1: dogs is like pre staled chips by Jamie. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll just sell bags of chips that I already opened,
Speaker 1: had three chips from, and then put back in the
Speaker 1: cabinet for three weeks. Touch a stale from Jamie loftus.
Speaker 1: I hope this thing though too, where I know people
Speaker 1: who put their chips in the refrigerator and I don't
Speaker 1: understand like clipped and in the refrigerator. Well, that's that's
Speaker 1: sort of innovative. My mom taught me to keep my
Speaker 1: coffee in refrigerator, which was something I never considered. The beans,
Speaker 1: who the ground beans. I don't really funk with a
Speaker 1: whole bean myself, but oh you get the preground. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I don't have that much time or ambition
Speaker 1: for that many steps in my coffee process. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I I used to just drink it out of the can.
Speaker 1: That's how much energy I put into it. But also
Speaker 1: shout out to Sam over a timeless coffee aways sends
Speaker 1: me wonderful coffee. Her match these drinks, Oh my beans
Speaker 1: are like so good. I feel like I'm not worthy
Speaker 1: of good coffee because I'm just so used to drinking
Speaker 1: like Kirkland coldbrew. But like, when you actually get all
Speaker 1: these notes, you're like, oh shit, I feel like I'm
Speaker 1: an ad executive. We just said he had an epic
Speaker 1: weekend or something. Yeah, exactly, all right. Anyway, um, let's
Speaker 1: take a quick break and we'll be right back to
Speaker 1: talk stories. And we're back and we all gotta I
Speaker 1: don't know if it was a rude awakening, but you know,
Speaker 1: I think I think we've been aware that the Q,
Speaker 1: the Q movement is still out there, still going strong,
Speaker 1: but had a big weekend. Last weekend there was a
Speaker 1: Texas convention where various speakers, including a congressman and Michael Flynn,
Speaker 1: just you know, repeated the lies that the Q movement
Speaker 1: is based on, like the foundational lies that it's stolen.
Speaker 1: Michael Flynn even when when asked like why America hasn't
Speaker 1: had a mean mar style uprising or que which, in
Speaker 1: case you're not familiar, that means that like protesters are shot,
Speaker 1: journalists are put in prison, and a new undemocratically elected
Speaker 1: government is put into power by the military. He said
Speaker 1: he thinks that would be great, that we should have that.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. And I think it's easy to dismiss the
Speaker 1: Q movement as sort of a collection of delusional, you know,
Speaker 1: narcissists shouting do your own research as their singular argument
Speaker 1: for every bizarre belief they've made up, because like, that
Speaker 1: is what it is. But it also I feel like,
Speaker 1: first of all, Trump is totally on board with this.
Speaker 1: Maggie Haberman just announced that he's been saying that he
Speaker 1: fully believes that he will be reinstated as president by August.
Speaker 1: And that's like where his sort of laser focus on
Speaker 1: the audits. Uh, those goalposts back, just keep moving to
Speaker 1: back a little bit more. I was it was March
Speaker 1: for the first storm, and that's August. He's maybe like October,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you October, that's going to be the money.
Speaker 1: But they're leaning into a new thread, which is that
Speaker 1: America needs to have a M. M. Mar style cou
Speaker 1: where the military deposes the democratically elected ruler and sells
Speaker 1: their own like as like that that feels significant to me.
Speaker 1: I know it's easy like a lot of people. But
Speaker 1: but and like especially because like I feel like in
Speaker 1: the mainstream media there's this division where it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: the Cube movement is silly, but it's being led by
Speaker 1: Donald Trump, who is also leading the Republican Party like
Speaker 1: full the way, No, like it's more powerful, has more
Speaker 1: power in that party than I feel like any individual
Speaker 1: has ever had in one of the major parties in
Speaker 1: in like u S history, Like he just determines what
Speaker 1: happens there. Yeah, so I don't know, less than three
Speaker 1: years we're going to have a major presidential election where
Speaker 1: one of the major parties platform is this is Q
Speaker 1: and on ship is stop the steel and is basically
Speaker 1: tacitly an approval of an armed uprising. Yea. And if
Speaker 1: if I remember the previous election, like the official Republican platform,
Speaker 1: the platform was just of one page documents staple to
Speaker 1: the front of the ten platform, and it said we
Speaker 1: support Donald J. Trump. That was the that was. They
Speaker 1: didn't they didn't have like issues for I think the
Speaker 1: first time in an American election the major party wasn't
Speaker 1: like this our candidate, and also this is what we believe.
Speaker 1: They were just like, no, this this wonderful, strange man.
Speaker 1: That's our entire platform. Anyway, this is democracy, that's what
Speaker 1: we like. And any and any issues at all that
Speaker 1: were brought to the table, we're just to refute them.
Speaker 1: We're gonna be like, that's not a thing. We don't
Speaker 1: believe from that climate change, we're not you know, that's
Speaker 1: a that's a liberal hoax right there. It's just everything
Speaker 1: is everything is anti You're right, there's there's no ground
Speaker 1: to stand on. And I feel like this is because
Speaker 1: it's been politicized, and because Democrats recognize that it's been politicized,
Speaker 1: they are you know, the right wing, like a right
Speaker 1: wing terror group or a group that's threatening to overthrow
Speaker 1: the government is being treated more passively by the mainstream
Speaker 1: than like if a congressman and a former you know,
Speaker 1: major military official we're talking about overthrowing the US government
Speaker 1: for any other cause, it would be like the end
Speaker 1: of the news cycle. But just because of all the
Speaker 1: normalization that has happened, and because of the Fox News
Speaker 1: advantage that the right has where they you know, have
Speaker 1: all mainstream commentators and mainstream Democrats frightened of being attacked,
Speaker 1: that they just this is being treated more passively than
Speaker 1: it would if any left wing group like made similar claims.
Speaker 1: It's just because of what has gone on with the
Speaker 1: Republican Party and like how the Democrats have just kind
Speaker 1: of been controlled by the right wing media over the
Speaker 1: last you know, fifteen years. It's we're now at a
Speaker 1: point where they're going to get away with us. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I wonder how much of this just springs from
Speaker 1: most Americans don't know anything about me Edbar, Like you
Speaker 1: can switch governments and me and Bar it's like, well,
Speaker 1: I want to switch governments, not learning anything more. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it seems to be working out, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: you you following me? Yeah, I mean it's still a country, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. We I I and really filled about
Speaker 1: the previous election because there won't be a Republican president
Speaker 1: until January of and I think they're not processing it
Speaker 1: very well. It seems to be the issue. All right,
Speaker 1: Let's talk about this new book it's called The Second
Speaker 1: Race and Guns and a Fairly Unequal America that really
Speaker 1: kind of crystallized the conversation around the Second Amendment for
Speaker 1: me in a way that I hadn't like fully consciously
Speaker 1: embraced because I feel like the way the mainstream media
Speaker 1: treats it, it's like the Second Amendment conversation, the gun
Speaker 1: rights advocate conversation. It's just like treated as a coincidence
Speaker 1: that those people tend to also be the people who
Speaker 1: get furious when you suggest something as simple as black
Speaker 1: lives matter. But it's like, yeah, they're just like on
Speaker 1: the same spectrum, but they're not necessarily like fully connected
Speaker 1: to one another. And this new book by historian Carol
Speaker 1: Anderson looks at both the history of the Second Amendment,
Speaker 1: like when it was first formed and why it was
Speaker 1: first formed, but also just sort of the present moment,
Speaker 1: and the the big kind of present tense news story
Speaker 1: that she looks at is Filando Castile, who was following
Speaker 1: the n r A guidelines for how to inform an
Speaker 1: officer you are legally carrying a gun like to the
Speaker 1: t like it's there's a handbook where they tell you
Speaker 1: how to do this in the n r A. He
Speaker 1: did that and was shot and killed by the cop
Speaker 1: following the letter of the law. And he was killed
Speaker 1: for it. And this was the perfect opportunity for an
Speaker 1: organization that is so horny for conflict and to be
Speaker 1: like victimized, to create a martyr who they could get behind.
Speaker 1: And they were completely silent. They wanted no part of
Speaker 1: backing Filando Castile. Meanwhile, you know, in the nineties the
Speaker 1: Branch Davidians were raided by federal agents, and you know
Speaker 1: members of that cult murdered federal agents. That n r
Speaker 1: A back to them, you know, the Ruby Ridge saying
Speaker 1: um militia movements saying they back people who murder federal
Speaker 1: agents when they are white. And her argument is that
Speaker 1: this is not an accident. The Second Amendment from the
Speaker 1: start was designed to arm white people against potential slave uprisings.
Speaker 1: And you know, when they were writing the amendments, the
Speaker 1: Southern states didn't think that the federal government would help
Speaker 1: them fight off a slave revolt with the federal army.
Speaker 1: And so that's why they created, at least partially why
Speaker 1: they created this second Amendment that has the everybody should
Speaker 1: have guns and everybody should be able to form a militia,
Speaker 1: so that they basically had the backing of the federal
Speaker 1: government to form uh their own military. Um. And that
Speaker 1: was like James Madison and all the Bridgingians and ship.
Speaker 1: But then you know, they obviously heavily implied in that
Speaker 1: is that it's only it only applies to white people. Um.
Speaker 1: And throughout the history of the country, white armed rebellion
Speaker 1: has been treated with a slap on the wrist like
Speaker 1: the Whiskey rebellion, while black armed rebellion or self defense
Speaker 1: has been treated with terror and state sanctioned murder or
Speaker 1: dropping bombs on the whole neighborhood. Yeah, that's she didn't
Speaker 1: talk about this in the interview that I listened to,
Speaker 1: but the details of the Tulsa A race masacre, the
Speaker 1: entire thing kicked off when black residents of Tulsa showed
Speaker 1: up at a prison with guns to protect a teenager
Speaker 1: from a lynch mob, and a shot was fired. Nobody
Speaker 1: knows by who, but the very idea of a black
Speaker 1: person firing a shot stirred the mob to the organized
Speaker 1: and systematic and genocidal violence that they enacted like the
Speaker 1: next morning. It's so interesting because, like you know, Jim
Speaker 1: Crow was established soon after the end of the Civil War,
Speaker 1: I mean, the idea of segregation in a two tiered system,
Speaker 1: you know, the failed reconstruction and all that. Then we
Speaker 1: have a hundred more years of Jim Crow, and you
Speaker 1: wonder why, like, like our country is so racist, why
Speaker 1: didn't they just amend the Second Amendment, Like you would
Speaker 1: expect them to either rein in or amend or change
Speaker 1: the sec An Amendment or just minute it altogether, because
Speaker 1: oh my god, what if black people got weapons, you know,
Speaker 1: just to cover their asses. But instead it was like,
Speaker 1: now they'll just let everyone fight one another, and we're
Speaker 1: not going to stop white mobs and everyone can defend
Speaker 1: themselves except for if you're black. This this book sounds amazing,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure she goes into the black Panthers and
Speaker 1: of course, yeah, yeah, totally She goes deep into that
Speaker 1: and how their whole stated purpose was arming themselves so
Speaker 1: that they could police the police, because shockingly, the police
Speaker 1: state sanctioned murder of black people goes back throughout history
Speaker 1: to when the police were founded as like slave patrols,
Speaker 1: and the way that they treated that was by executing
Speaker 1: their leaders and killing people and arresting people. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's so many books like this about so many specific things.
Speaker 1: I just like essentially boiled down to like some big
Speaker 1: American idea with an asterisk next to it that's this
Speaker 1: term terms and conditions apply, right, just so you know,
Speaker 1: like if for to some people, and yeah, to even
Speaker 1: look at like, yeah, it's your point, Francisco, Like you
Speaker 1: think if they could take it off the table, God damn,
Speaker 1: black people won't have guns. We don't have to worry
Speaker 1: about that. Ship. But there's something about the racism in
Speaker 1: this country that's so shortsighted and just reactionary without like
Speaker 1: really considering it and then like down the road and
Speaker 1: be like, oh yeah, what was that about. Wait that
Speaker 1: was race? Oh yeah, we didn't look It's it's been
Speaker 1: so many years now and it's so ingrained in the culture,
Speaker 1: and we're not really interested in again parsing through that
Speaker 1: and understanding the motivations behind having amendments like this or
Speaker 1: the perceived rights of things like this. But yeah, it's
Speaker 1: just it's yeah, even liberals, like you're saying Jack initially
Speaker 1: that that you know, they consider this untouchable, like well,
Speaker 1: you know, in Second Amendment rights people and you know,
Speaker 1: and it's just it's seen as such a quote unquote
Speaker 1: cultural almost religious, almost put in the same category, you know,
Speaker 1: as one who's pro life on religious grounds, and that's
Speaker 1: obviously a separate bullshit issue. Um, but like this is
Speaker 1: sort of scene as that is super untouchable because liberals
Speaker 1: also planned to the idea that our founding fathers were
Speaker 1: good and that they were not racist, and yeah, maybe
Speaker 1: they owned slaves, but they were good people and everybody
Speaker 1: owned slaves and that's what the exactly what they took
Speaker 1: care of. But it's like no, and it's okay, we're
Speaker 1: just we're given speaking of you guys asked about myths
Speaker 1: on this show all the time, and you know, the
Speaker 1: founding myth that like this country is was founded by
Speaker 1: good people and on good terms. It's like, no, we
Speaker 1: have to We're told so many myths that uphold that,
Speaker 1: and it feels, it does feel scary to unravel and
Speaker 1: begin to unravel those myths that we're told, you know,
Speaker 1: Polka Hunt is totally consented to being John Smith child brat,
Speaker 1: you know, that kind of crap that like, But it's
Speaker 1: okay if we can replace it with like new ideas,
Speaker 1: and we can replace it with like better aspirations. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think you know, Obama had words the best words, uh,
Speaker 1: he really did, and like I think he began to
Speaker 1: carve out and I wish we could have someone who
Speaker 1: has actually made good on his promises, you know, to
Speaker 1: carve out this idea that we're still constructing this American dream.
Speaker 1: And it is why a lot of civil rights organizers
Speaker 1: and activists call for what they they say they name
Speaker 1: a third reconstruction, the second reconstruction being the civil rights movement,
Speaker 1: the first reconstruction being a failed attempt. But you know,
Speaker 1: of of equality and we still have to strive for that.
Speaker 1: But and it's okay, we can let go of these
Speaker 1: old myths, but not if liberals keep on conflating this ship,
Speaker 1: which is so clearly racist, with some kind of religious
Speaker 1: or foundational untouchable principle of American nous that we can't
Speaker 1: actually reform. Yeah, and I think it's and then I
Speaker 1: think more people have to begin to see that unwillingness
Speaker 1: as like an absolute redline in terms of not wanting
Speaker 1: to vote for someone to support someone like that, because
Speaker 1: you're like, we need representatives who are gonna look with
Speaker 1: a sober eye at our history, see where we came
Speaker 1: from to understand where we need to go. Because if
Speaker 1: you're already playing with this like obscure, oh, sanitized version,
Speaker 1: you can never solve a problem. It's like looking at
Speaker 1: you have a fucking X ray and ship and it's
Speaker 1: like some crayon drawing and you're like, yeah, it looks
Speaker 1: like that one red spot on the bone should go.
Speaker 1: And you're like, I wish this were a real X
Speaker 1: ray so you could actually see what you're looking at
Speaker 1: inside my chest where it is specifically what organs. It's
Speaker 1: damaging because this other version of me like, yeah, this
Speaker 1: bad we should cut it out. Isn't gonna get to
Speaker 1: the point and isn't going to create the sort of
Speaker 1: forward momentum in progress that we're seeking. And yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's it is a hard thing, and we do need
Speaker 1: to keep looking at it to your point of saying like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we don't have to just talk about how fucked up
Speaker 1: everything is. You can pivot to that and say, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was the world as it was, and this is
Speaker 1: the world as it should be. And these are the
Speaker 1: people who were moving to try and take our country
Speaker 1: and our society to the world as it should be.
Speaker 1: And this is what we're still building on. See, we
Speaker 1: want to build on this momentum rather than like yeah,
Speaker 1: thanks John Adams, sick bro, and then just leaving it there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this argument and this kind of connecting of the Second
Speaker 1: Amendment to systemic white supremacy, just the anger and vitriol
Speaker 1: and fear tied up in the Second Amendment argument and
Speaker 1: guns rights people never fully made sense to me. It
Speaker 1: was always I was always picturing when they said, like
Speaker 1: they're gonna come for our guns, and like that I
Speaker 1: need my guns to like protect my family. They always
Speaker 1: talk about like the government coming for your guns, and
Speaker 1: it's like, what are you talking about, Like that's not
Speaker 1: even a thing that we have in our history. But
Speaker 1: I think when you connect it to the white supremacy,
Speaker 1: the fact that you know, we've talked before on the
Speaker 1: show about the fact that they know white supremacy is
Speaker 1: a lie. Like on some level, they know that they
Speaker 1: know they live on a graveyard of horrific abuses that
Speaker 1: propped them up to wherever they exist, and that black
Speaker 1: Americans have every right to demand retribution and they know
Speaker 1: that this is this lie. That every American has the
Speaker 1: right to own guns is a massive advantage they have,
Speaker 1: and that's why they're obsessed with stories about how crime
Speaker 1: ridden cities are so that they can like justify their fear.
Speaker 1: Like when when you ask people who watch Fox News
Speaker 1: what they think a city is, like, it's it's so
Speaker 1: outside the bounds of reality. They think it's odd that
Speaker 1: HBO show, yes, they did, playing out in a Starbucks.
Speaker 1: That's why, and that's why they're so outraged anytime anyone
Speaker 1: criticizes police violence. But it's why they are so like
Speaker 1: there's all that fear, all those lies, all that hatred,
Speaker 1: like holding the idea of white supremacy in their mind
Speaker 1: and along with some part of them that has seen
Speaker 1: that that ship is not true like them, they're trying
Speaker 1: to hold those together, and that creates cognitive dissonance, It
Speaker 1: creates angry, It creates fear, and it just really the
Speaker 1: the image. As I was like kind of listening to
Speaker 1: her interview with Terry Gross's substitute teacher, I forget that
Speaker 1: David Davy beyond Something's like Terry Gross is sub and
Speaker 1: then like reading up on this book, the thing that
Speaker 1: kept popping into my head is that suburban St. Louis
Speaker 1: couple who when Black Lives Matter protesters were walking past
Speaker 1: their home, they stood on their front lawn holding their
Speaker 1: guns and like waving them at them, like kind of
Speaker 1: waving their right to own guns as a privilege in
Speaker 1: the face of black protesters who would be killed on
Speaker 1: site for holding guns that openly like just being like,
Speaker 1: this is our advantage. Fuck you Like that is her
Speaker 1: whole argument really kind of ties a lot of things
Speaker 1: together for me. Yeah, go beyond that. I mean, the
Speaker 1: entire Trump presidency is an emblem and homage to white supremacy,
Speaker 1: to the idea that if you're rich and wide enough
Speaker 1: and a dude, you can get away with anything. Look
Speaker 1: at January six. I always talk about this. I'm just like, man,
Speaker 1: I've Marshawn Washington many times. I would be murdered. Just
Speaker 1: how close would I have gotten to breaking a window
Speaker 1: the Capitol steps. Had we been you know, work like
Speaker 1: protesting a war, uh, protesting the International Monetary Fund, protesting
Speaker 1: police murder like or anything. It's just so like when
Speaker 1: we I feel like, as a white person watching the
Speaker 1: January six like every white person, I don't know, I
Speaker 1: am half white, and I so I kind of understand this,
Speaker 1: but like must have been looking at and me being like, man,
Speaker 1: white privilege really is kind of a thing, huh, because
Speaker 1: you know people of color in this country where like
Speaker 1: white privilege is absolutely look at that. Look at that, yeah,
Speaker 1: look at there's no accountability for that. A few months later,
Speaker 1: absolutely and so disheartening to witness too, as a black person,
Speaker 1: been Asian person living in this country in the same life,
Speaker 1: to see they can fucking go and do that because
Speaker 1: they're upset that Trump isn't president. Meanwhile, we're looking at
Speaker 1: real fucked up outcomes for unarmed people, and you know,
Speaker 1: it's like everybody knows. I'm like, no one's foolish enough
Speaker 1: to come armed to something like that. As a person,
Speaker 1: the game is just completely different, and the sad thing
Speaker 1: is too, like on the on the face of it,
Speaker 1: in history, marginalized people have more of a reason to
Speaker 1: be like, no, I need these guns, man. Have you
Speaker 1: in what they do to us? Have you seen what
Speaker 1: they do to us? Oh? Hell no? And how are
Speaker 1: you gonna how are we going to move forward at all?
Speaker 1: When we're just kind of looking at these small issue
Speaker 1: or not that this is a small issue, but we're
Speaker 1: not really looking at changing real lived outcomes for people
Speaker 1: and just thinking like, well, maybe if the guns are gone,
Speaker 1: that could be something. No, how about you give people support,
Speaker 1: how about you give them options? How about give them
Speaker 1: upboard mobility, because I'm sure most people would prefer that
Speaker 1: than to live in a you know, in a cycle
Speaker 1: of fear and violence and anger. Uh, and would much
Speaker 1: rather be in a place of abundance on some level
Speaker 1: or just to have some relief. That's why it's so
Speaker 1: upsetting things, you know, instances like Philando Castile, because you're
Speaker 1: absolutely right that unarmed black people get gunned down all
Speaker 1: the time, and so what is too why not just
Speaker 1: be armed? They get gunned down by vigilantes, um self
Speaker 1: proclaimed vigilantes. Now I'm blinking on his name, but the
Speaker 1: gentleman he was killed, the young kid who was killed
Speaker 1: last year. No, right, before um, George Lloyd, Um, I'm
Speaker 1: at avery. Yeah, I'm at avery, and former police officers
Speaker 1: and then most recently another young But it's like every
Speaker 1: time the conversation if someone had a gun, the internet
Speaker 1: conversation is oh, but he had a gun, but he
Speaker 1: had a gun. Oh his hands were up, but he
Speaker 1: had a gun. Then kill him on site. That's not allowed.
Speaker 1: That's not depending again, terms and conditions apply. Like it's
Speaker 1: the number one tool for white supremacy is this lie
Speaker 1: and being able to just enforce this lie within sort
Speaker 1: of the mainstream culture that you know, well, really only
Speaker 1: white people are allowed to have guns, like and if
Speaker 1: somebody who isn't white has a gun, the police will
Speaker 1: murder them on site like that. That's unbelievable. And like
Speaker 1: the fact that it's not set out loud like constantly
Speaker 1: like that, that is the It's a shocking, like dystopian
Speaker 1: reality that I just feel like people don't say Asian
Speaker 1: American gun ownership soaring through the roof. I do believe
Speaker 1: in gun control except for Asian elders. I think we
Speaker 1: should arm Asian aunties and uncles with a R fifteen.
Speaker 1: That's it. They're the only ones. Police no guns. Everyone
Speaker 1: else no guns, but Asian aunties and uncles we arm them.
Speaker 1: They patrol. Yeah, and they tell you obviously, like how
Speaker 1: to choose a good watermelon, and you know, how to
Speaker 1: stay out, how to stay out of the sun. Very
Speaker 1: very disciplined. On the triggers. That's a bust. They're gun
Speaker 1: for anything. They're like, you know, I'm gonna hit you
Speaker 1: with it real quick first. Yeah, oh no, no, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna get loaded. I will smack you over the
Speaker 1: head with this. It's a big bat. That's who I
Speaker 1: believe in army. I'm like with their little baskets, they
Speaker 1: can carry them in the little front portion of it.
Speaker 1: I'm about that. There we go. All right, let's take
Speaker 1: a quick break and we'll be right back. And we're
Speaker 1: back and Anthony Fauci, bye bye. You're canceled, bro. They
Speaker 1: foyed thousands of his emails from during the pandemic. You know,
Speaker 1: I think everybody was hoping to find the goods on
Speaker 1: what was really going on behind the scenes as he was,
Speaker 1: you know, dismantling the Trump administration from the inside. And
Speaker 1: the spiciest nugget that's being used as a pool quote
Speaker 1: is where he said, all is well, despite some crazy
Speaker 1: people in this world. Oh shit out of control, so problematic.
Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, we don't use crazy anymore.
Speaker 1: That is just wildly both misogynistic and it just it's
Speaker 1: a bigoted phrase. Unbelievable. So this was actually an email
Speaker 1: response to someone who said they were worried about all
Speaker 1: the people who are threatening his life in the last
Speaker 1: of his family, so it's hard to even interpret it
Speaker 1: as being directed at Trump. The The email to him
Speaker 1: was like, I saw some news. Hope it's fake that
Speaker 1: you're being attacked by some people. Hope you are well
Speaker 1: under such an irrational situation. He responded, thank you for
Speaker 1: your kind note. All as well, despite some crazy people
Speaker 1: in the world. So what a funk? What about the
Speaker 1: next thing? What about the next thing? Come on, has
Speaker 1: got to be more than that. Give us the T,
Speaker 1: give us the T. I know there's tea. I've heard
Speaker 1: of tea. So I will say this, the people who
Speaker 1: the Q people have not had a chance to fully
Speaker 1: digest all of the emails. I'm sure they're going to
Speaker 1: find some secret codes in there to know what was
Speaker 1: really going on. But that is like, that's it, man,
Speaker 1: he is really he's a professional doctor. Yeah, not a comedian, right,
Speaker 1: He's a guy in a in a very tough position
Speaker 1: where he has people literally trying to murder him while
Speaker 1: he tries to make sure that a few people as
Speaker 1: possible die from a global pandemic. The his there, it's
Speaker 1: very consistent between what you see in the emails and
Speaker 1: what you saw in press conferences. The only difference is
Speaker 1: that he's he seems like very cautious and like wary
Speaker 1: of public perception in a way that I could see
Speaker 1: people being like, oh, he's just all about like the press,
Speaker 1: and but that is in fact, like from day one,
Speaker 1: people are like, okay, so this is how you lead
Speaker 1: during a global pandemic. You have to be steady, you
Speaker 1: have to be understated. Uh. And he saw that the
Speaker 1: president wasn't doing that, and so like, I'm guessing that's
Speaker 1: why he was so careful about, you know, controlling them
Speaker 1: that was put out there about him, because he recognized
Speaker 1: probably that he was the only voice of reason for
Speaker 1: for the country, right, Yeah, he was. He was really
Speaker 1: the only rational person who was in the room with
Speaker 1: a president surrounded by sycophants. So I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: he's he's trying to be as rational and as forthcoming
Speaker 1: as he can be given his current situation, and I'm
Speaker 1: showing some over He's like, dude, I'm not saying anything
Speaker 1: an official email where someone can foya this and like
Speaker 1: reveal anything remotely and what my personal thoughts are outside
Speaker 1: of my you know position. I don't think this like
Speaker 1: proves that he is like that, this is actually how
Speaker 1: he is. It's just when you foy a Republican or
Speaker 1: conservative leader, it's like lifting up a rock with just
Speaker 1: thousands of disgusting bugs and like a smushed cat and
Speaker 1: a band of drugs and a murder weapon underneath it.
Speaker 1: Like with Faucy, you get vaguely dismissive language about people
Speaker 1: who are threatening the lives of his family. Get a
Speaker 1: fucking life, Fauci, you're such a dork. But I'm sure
Speaker 1: like there are some Democrats to that. They're just they're
Speaker 1: just they're good at their rock hiding, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, the same way I think we're just like
Speaker 1: I think with some Republicans you don't even need a
Speaker 1: foil of them because they say everything out loud. No, yeah,
Speaker 1: you just need to have a camera there whenever they're
Speaker 1: doing like, uh, you know, one of those like one
Speaker 1: thousand dollars a plate dinners for like the American uh
Speaker 1: Liberty Coalition or whatever, you know, and then they just
Speaker 1: go like everyone actually liked slavery? Is this thing on? Hello?
Speaker 1: Is this? Yeah? Slavery was fun, and you're just like
Speaker 1: this is being taped, dude, whoa, whoa. I thought, okay,
Speaker 1: I thought we're all cool here. No. Yeah, oh so
Speaker 1: now you're gonna cancel me for having, you know, neo colonial,
Speaker 1: neo confederate fucking sentiments. Well, enjoy the comedic stylings of
Speaker 1: Ellie Kepper. Sorry alright, Peter a real one. Yeah, alright,
Speaker 1: So well, she was she nineteen when she went to
Speaker 1: weird that she looks like a child. I was just
Speaker 1: I was being I saw the headline too, and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh ship. But then I was like you
Speaker 1: always have to do the thing and be like, what
Speaker 1: the fund did you do when you were nineteen? Right exactly? Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I I wasn't able to do
Speaker 1: was win any fucking beauty patchet because I am not
Speaker 1: an attractive man. I went to one debutante ball and
Speaker 1: I embarrassed my high school girlfriend because I got so high.
Speaker 1: I was stinking in there and this was like uptight, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, this is like the fucking debut tomball ish it.
Speaker 1: I tried my best. I smoked with a huge, hefty
Speaker 1: garbage bag over my my torso and I smoked outside.
Speaker 1: I did Yeah, I did my best, babe. Yeah you
Speaker 1: hot box the trash bag and you still got in trouble. Yeah, Like,
Speaker 1: you're right. I shouldn't have blown the smoke in the bag.
Speaker 1: That was an idea didn't stick onto my wool suit.
Speaker 1: I never went to a Debutan ball, but I learned
Speaker 1: everything I needed to from the uh, from that borat
Speaker 1: thing and a couple of magazine articles just how bad
Speaker 1: these dad's, I mean, how much they want to suck
Speaker 1: their daughters. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, there's a there's a
Speaker 1: lot of kind of like incestual dad energy, very a
Speaker 1: lot of like porn hub title energy. You know, let
Speaker 1: a butterfly kisses energy as well. Yeah, it is, Uh,
Speaker 1: it's real gross. I only know of debutant balls through
Speaker 1: like TV and movies. You know, I'm not That's what
Speaker 1: I thought. It was like a dance, not like this
Speaker 1: thing where like I would be the only like or
Speaker 1: one of three like non white people there. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like a cattle call for like single ladies. Is that it?
Speaker 1: It's like this is them, this is the adult version
Speaker 1: of this child now for for Southern wasps, former slave
Speaker 1: owners or whatever. Yeah, yeah, you know the same thing.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's like it does very much feel. It
Speaker 1: feels very gross to uh, you know, showcase your your
Speaker 1: hot daughter. But but I don't. I don't really blame
Speaker 1: Ellie Kemper for the founding of it. I do just
Speaker 1: think it's funny because it was like one of those
Speaker 1: cancelations online that you're just like, yeah, sure, I'm not
Speaker 1: even gonna read it. Yeah, fucker, I have no reason
Speaker 1: to hate this person. But I was like, yeah, we haven't.
Speaker 1: We haven't done her yet. She should be canceled. Not
Speaker 1: even sure? Why do I want to find out? To
Speaker 1: play this on the ingram Angle tonight, they're like this
Speaker 1: is how the liberals talk. Yeah, you see, we haven't
Speaker 1: done her yet. What do they mean? Did she come
Speaker 1: out when she was like? Yo, that was an l
Speaker 1: you know, honestly, I shouldn't have that was not I would.
Speaker 1: I would strong if she listens to this podcast, which
Speaker 1: I'm sure she does. I want to strongly advise her
Speaker 1: to just pretend none of this ever happened and move
Speaker 1: on because any apology so that's just another news cycle. Baby,
Speaker 1: that's just gonna keep it going. I say, just live
Speaker 1: your life, you know, keeping the impossible Kimmy Schmidt, is
Speaker 1: that what it's called? Yea, is she impossible? No, she's ubreakable. Yeah,
Speaker 1: continue being unbreakable. And you know, do you because I
Speaker 1: am certain that you did not found the KKK wall right,
Speaker 1: This is the beginning into realizing she's some kind of
Speaker 1: time traveler. Yeah, dude, look at this photo of like
Speaker 1: the Confederacy leaders and their wives. It's all Ellie Kimpers.
Speaker 1: She's married to five different Stonewall Jackson and Jack Nicholson.
Speaker 1: They're You're just like, is this the shining? What the fuck?
Speaker 1: She was married to General Braxton Bragg. Fox News sent
Speaker 1: their equivalent of a U up text to her. By
Speaker 1: media critics condemned left leaning outlets Ellie kemper On Slot
Speaker 1: over ties to racist ball. Uh so they like put
Speaker 1: out an opinion piece being like you leave this nice
Speaker 1: girl alone. Yeah, yeah, I mean ties to racist ball.
Speaker 1: Like I feel like that's like anything anyone's ever, like
Speaker 1: anyone who existed from any time that you probably participated
Speaker 1: in something with origins and terrible racism. I feel like,
Speaker 1: if you're white, and not even just in the South,
Speaker 1: like if you're just white and lived in a suburb,
Speaker 1: you definitely participated in some sort of clan adjacent event.
Speaker 1: You didn't know that, you're you know you you just
Speaker 1: thought this was the annual k K R o q
Speaker 1: uh Weenie roast, and you're like, every every year we
Speaker 1: eat hot dogs and listen to alternative music from the nineties.
Speaker 1: I didn't know the clan had anything to do with it,
Speaker 1: you know they did. Yeah, Kevin and Bean, Yeah, big
Speaker 1: big clans cans, Kevin Dude, Slugo from K Rock Jet Fish.
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, these guys were Confederate generals too.
Speaker 1: There's there's three K's and Striker. You know, I just
Speaker 1: love I love K Rock is secretly KKK Rock. This
Speaker 1: is very very specific Los Angeles audience. But it's a
Speaker 1: it's a great joke. All right, Let's talk about Europeans.
Speaker 1: I've been thinking about them. Finally. There such an affectionate people.
Speaker 1: Can they kiss on the cheek to say hi? Yeah?
Speaker 1: That's basically like some porno right in America, We're like,
Speaker 1: what the yeah is this? Like it's so funny when
Speaker 1: you see Americans like meet European for the first time
Speaker 1: and like they go, oh really okay, yeah they kiss
Speaker 1: on the cheek and are we having sex now because
Speaker 1: the deal or someone has like a joke like I
Speaker 1: need a cigarette after that, like really hugged somebody a
Speaker 1: fucking creep. But yeah, like this whole thing, like you know,
Speaker 1: in America, we have to just screwed up a sense
Speaker 1: of like physical intimacy, like especially you know between bros.
Speaker 1: You know, so like switching to the fist bump. I
Speaker 1: think it was a really easy alternative to show perfection
Speaker 1: as a greeting in this country, especially when we're already
Speaker 1: a stepdad. And Europe, on the other hand, is a
Speaker 1: place the love flows. The kisses and hugs are ingrained
Speaker 1: in the culture, and that's why at the beginning of
Speaker 1: the lockdowns, I remember like officials in Italy were saying
Speaker 1: stay apart today, to embrace each other more warmly tomorrow,
Speaker 1: because you want to get in, you want to give
Speaker 1: kisses and things like that. And that's how I agree
Speaker 1: with that's how I agree with strangers putting our eyes
Speaker 1: next to each other and so funny. So as the
Speaker 1: lockdown looses, though, and vaccinations increase, people are wondering, like
Speaker 1: what to do now in Europe? Like is there an
Speaker 1: in between on the way back to full blown vessels?
Speaker 1: And it seems like everyone's been trying things, you know,
Speaker 1: right now in Italy they're trying a new thing, which
Speaker 1: is a breast bump. Now not like across the board,
Speaker 1: but things people have noticed to some have some kind
Speaker 1: of contact work. Quote, two people greeting each other essentially
Speaker 1: try to touch hearts with their heads turned as far
Speaker 1: away from each other as possible. God, I love the
Speaker 1: the I love the horny nous of the modern European
Speaker 1: Like they just are just like we have to do
Speaker 1: skin on skin, like let me feel that heartbeat? Fun.
Speaker 1: I love that. That sounds great to me. I just
Speaker 1: like how it looks though, Like if you saw people
Speaker 1: doing that, they're like, yo, do they fucking hate each other? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's turned it's probably like yeah yeah yeah, like about
Speaker 1: the fight, like the right, that's very schoolyard. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: talking to the can due shoulder, talking to you shoulders,
Speaker 1: but you want to find out. Yeah, they're speaking in
Speaker 1: French though, so you're like, I think they're in love,
Speaker 1: but either that or they're gonna kill each other. Are
Speaker 1: they gonna be divorced? This? But in France they have
Speaker 1: This is again, this is from the Daily Beast. They
Speaker 1: were saying that they've gone for quote, a more elegant
Speaker 1: bicet bump, which minimizes contact and the chance that someone
Speaker 1: might accidentally forget and plant a fatal smooch. So I'm
Speaker 1: guessing you're doing like, oh oh yeah, arms straight like
Speaker 1: bang yeah, or or like the side of your arm
Speaker 1: and the side of their arm, like you're leaning in
Speaker 1: for a kiss, but you don't do the kiss, yeah,
Speaker 1: or like do and does anyone do like a shoulder
Speaker 1: to shoulder with your heads? Yeah? Right, like you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? You know, I I'm glad that they're
Speaker 1: trying to like do a life hack for COVID, you know, greetings,
Speaker 1: But I mean, what about like high fives? Is that
Speaker 1: I think because it looks like what the idiots who
Speaker 1: with the accents you when they invade their country on tours,
Speaker 1: like the tourism tours. Yeah, that's like a fucking top gun,
Speaker 1: no funk that we have do our ship properly. We're
Speaker 1: gonna be a chess bump, right. It sounds awkward as hell,
Speaker 1: but I would say considering that Jack and almost made
Speaker 1: out when we saw each other for the first time
Speaker 1: in physical space after a year, Like I get it,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like sometimes you need to
Speaker 1: be like yo, we were here. Physical contact is important
Speaker 1: not just between Miles and I, but as a as
Speaker 1: a society, we we need that ship. And I think
Speaker 1: that's true. If we had more of a culture of
Speaker 1: kissing and hugging when we saw each other, like maybe
Speaker 1: we'd have like fifty percent less mass shootings. Yeahs, and
Speaker 1: people just like greeted each other with like affection or
Speaker 1: like this like despair pit of masculinity where you're a
Speaker 1: completely rendered inert like innationally around other people because like
Speaker 1: I cannot do this. I should just go lift weights
Speaker 1: or I must shake hands, say sup from you see
Speaker 1: like in other countries how affectionate men are with each other,
Speaker 1: and you immediately see a different sort of quality or
Speaker 1: level to that like these friendships or the bonds than
Speaker 1: you do when like dudes are just like throwing beer
Speaker 1: cans at a wall, or some ship men have like
Speaker 1: an internal combustion engine that converts every emotion into anger. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I love that. We really are like just so repressed.
Speaker 1: We're basically a steam engine. Like, bro, yeah, you become
Speaker 1: the little engine that should Yeah. So, like the other
Speaker 1: things that they're saying, like, look, we get that people
Speaker 1: are getting vaccinated and numbers are beginning to stabilize, but
Speaker 1: still like, please exercise a monicum with caution because we're
Speaker 1: still trying to figure out like all of the nuances
Speaker 1: of even transmission with vaccinated people and you know, knowing
Speaker 1: what to do, especially with the elderly. So this one
Speaker 1: expert said that vaccinated grandparents hug are unvaccinated grandchildren from
Speaker 1: the back. You know. He suggests they hold their breath
Speaker 1: from it. But you know, I want to make it.
Speaker 1: I want to make it a little bit. Yeah. The
Speaker 1: words they use was hit it from behind the back,
Speaker 1: hold your breath stank so bad. But like but he said,
Speaker 1: hold your breath begin because it's all about the exhalations.
Speaker 1: And this one Italian expert strongly warns against what they
Speaker 1: call the aunt's kiss, which is a full lipped cheek
Speaker 1: plant as they say, because again you're leaving, there could
Speaker 1: be saliva left. You might be touching your that and
Speaker 1: then touch your mouth or touch your eye or something
Speaker 1: like that. So it's you know, it's it's, it's, it's
Speaker 1: it's it's a little bit tough, and I get it.
Speaker 1: You know, my heart goes out. But being being from
Speaker 1: two cultures that are famously not very affectionate, I've found
Speaker 1: it like, yeah, I have no problem like not being affectionate.
Speaker 1: When I greet people. I like to hug. That's what
Speaker 1: else I like to do. And I'll admit I I
Speaker 1: definitely one of those guys who like went to Europe
Speaker 1: and someone greeted me with the cheek kiss and I
Speaker 1: spent most of the time like I had a like
Speaker 1: a meltdown, just like I don't know where to go,
Speaker 1: and then I just walked away. The masculinity challenge, I
Speaker 1: ever thought about this shot in your pants. Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: this other thing though, too, like because then there's such
Speaker 1: a culture of predatory men and you know, consent culture
Speaker 1: not existing here that like even hugging you want to
Speaker 1: be like is that cool? Because I like there's a
Speaker 1: five and ten chance that I'm some fucked up evil person.
Speaker 1: Like there's like, you know, there is kind of a
Speaker 1: middle ground somewhere where it's like even before the pandemic,
Speaker 1: I stopped hugging people as much because I used to
Speaker 1: just like that was just how I greeted people. And then, uh,
Speaker 1: you know you kind of realized that, like, well, not
Speaker 1: everybody is like into hugs, and I'm not going to
Speaker 1: force that on anyone. That's why you like, I think
Speaker 1: they do things like I'm a hug Are you a hugger? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm a hugger, and then they're like alright now, yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know, I would love to be in a
Speaker 1: culture where we all just made out all the time.
Speaker 1: So that's sick too. Yeah, I mean there's yeah, we
Speaker 1: we've talked before how they're should do that just started
Speaker 1: bringing just like bros doing cheek to cheek kisses. Now
Speaker 1: you know what I mean to see if we could
Speaker 1: start a movement, Yeah, see if it will catch on
Speaker 1: obviously being like yo or you know, if you're vaccinated
Speaker 1: right well, which is the thing that they're also writing
Speaker 1: in this article that like there are still people who
Speaker 1: acting like it twenty nineteen, but it's usually like immediately
Speaker 1: followed with like or prefaced with like unvaccinated. Yeah, bring
Speaker 1: it on in it, that's what I say, see your cars.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean that there's cuddle parties that have
Speaker 1: like started becoming a thing because we lack the ability
Speaker 1: to like pre pandemic rights. Yeah, yeah, pretty pandemic. But
Speaker 1: like that's although I know some people who are like, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I've been going to like raves the whole time. I
Speaker 1: actually met somebody at a thing who like got to
Speaker 1: drinks in and was like, yeah, I've been going to
Speaker 1: like a couple of raves, like and it was pretty wild.
Speaker 1: But like, you know, people don't give them. Yeah, my
Speaker 1: grandma things things were bad, but but they want us
Speaker 1: to be here, so here we are. We got for them,
Speaker 1: for them, I rave for them. But like back in
Speaker 1: the day, I feel like so much of like Madmen
Speaker 1: culture of people just having like irresponsible workplace affairs, and
Speaker 1: partially because they were like drinking at lunchtime, but also
Speaker 1: you know, like that's how people used to get their
Speaker 1: skin to skin, and you know, they it's like a
Speaker 1: human need that we just like don't acknowledge at all. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, but you know, the Italians also probably cheat
Speaker 1: a lot too with their secretaries. I feel like we
Speaker 1: we definitely are a culture that like does not show
Speaker 1: affection on the outside, and then uh, like affection is
Speaker 1: just seen as something God doesn't want you to do.
Speaker 1: At least that's like culture. So it's like, no, you know,
Speaker 1: if you do that, Jesus Christ, So just make sure
Speaker 1: you do it in secret, and uh, you know, fucking
Speaker 1: orange Europe on vacation or in Europe on vacation at
Speaker 1: a hostel. You know, if it happens, it happens. Come on, guys,
Speaker 1: just be less uh creepy and misogynistic like men from Europe. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: the whole continent. All right, that's gonna do it for
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