Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season episode five of
Speaker 1: the Days Like Geics to production of My Heart Radio.
Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we take a deep dive
Speaker 1: into America's share Caution, it's Friday, May one, Happy birthday,
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Speaker 1: My name is Jack O'Brien, Potatoes O'Brien, and I'm thrilled
Speaker 1: to be joined as always buy my co host, Mr
Speaker 1: Miles Grass. Miles kame Miles McDonald for singing what do
Speaker 1: you believe? Pieces no THEO to reason away, Hello and way.
Speaker 1: So that's just me right now. Didn't even I was
Speaker 1: gonna look on Discord, but what a Chuge believes was
Speaker 1: in my mind and I felt like seeing like Michael McDonald's.
Speaker 1: So here we are. Well, I have a chuge product
Speaker 1: that I have to a debut on tomorrow's episode. It's
Speaker 1: currently being washed. Oh yes, I think we may have
Speaker 1: matching gear gear Miles. We're thrilled. We're fortunate to be
Speaker 1: joined in our third seat by a brilliant podcaster, a
Speaker 1: brilliant actor. You know him from Crazy Ex Girlfriend and
Speaker 1: Love Simon. His podcast is soul Bomb. He is Clark
Speaker 1: most Hey, there they great Introy. We're working on these.
Speaker 1: We're working our intro. You know, thank you for actually
Speaker 1: be found that out. We're working on I'm living in
Speaker 1: the chug vibes with y'all. I actually only just learned
Speaker 1: what it meant the other day because he mentioned it
Speaker 1: on an earlier episode, and I was like, how do
Speaker 1: I not know what chug is? And then I realized, right,
Speaker 1: virtue of not knowing what chug is? I am choky. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Part of me is this. I'm really
Speaker 1: leaning into it the other way, like you know, like
Speaker 1: a part of me wants to like regrets to high school,
Speaker 1: where I'm like, well, I don't want to be the
Speaker 1: thing that everyone says is a word that's bad. But
Speaker 1: now I'm like in my adults and I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm getting it tadded next week on my throat out here.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know if you're knowing or not knowing.
Speaker 1: There seems to be contradicting accounts. We have listeners, and
Speaker 1: the vernacular hasn't quite reached Canada, it seems, so we'll
Speaker 1: see how much of a phenomenon, it becomes yet again
Speaker 1: gen Z is trolling us. Yeah, and I love it.
Speaker 1: It's just like it feels like it's It doesn't feel
Speaker 1: like when like boomers were first writing about millennials when
Speaker 1: they came who are these broke motherfucker's where we won't
Speaker 1: acknowledge why they're in the state they're in versus like now,
Speaker 1: like these feel like pointed jabs from like younger siblings
Speaker 1: that are a little bit cooler. And I'm like, all right, yes,
Speaker 1: I like how it didn't go to us writing about them,
Speaker 1: It went to them writing about us because millennials are
Speaker 1: so Millennials are so self centered. They're always the subject
Speaker 1: of the article and not the writer of the art exactly, Like,
Speaker 1: but what do the younger ones think about us? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's even and even when it is, it's articles by
Speaker 1: millennials been like, chug, are we know how to embrace
Speaker 1: the juge? Yeah, Clark, We're going to get to know
Speaker 1: you a little bit better in a moment. First, we
Speaker 1: are going to tell our listeners just a couple of
Speaker 1: the things we're talking about today. We're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: the newest link in the Juliani political dynasty, Andrew Giuliani,
Speaker 1: also the first person to run for governor of New York,
Speaker 1: having been played by Chris Farley at a young age.
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna talk about kids in Massachusetts succeeding
Speaker 1: and getting young people to vote, a little little hopefulness there.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about AI created music and even movie translations.
Speaker 1: Why Netflix is so all over leverage, I'll say, on
Speaker 1: this Army of the Dead movie, I don't know, I
Speaker 1: haven't seen it yet, but before we get to any
Speaker 1: of that ship Clark, we like to ask our guests,
Speaker 1: what is something from your search history? So I prepared.
Speaker 1: I was thinking about this the other day as I
Speaker 1: was listening to an earlier episode, and I was like,
Speaker 1: there's no way there's going to be anything interesting in
Speaker 1: my search history. And then not five minutes later, I
Speaker 1: found myself down a Google rabbit hole that I think
Speaker 1: actually really encapsulates where I am in my life right now. Basically,
Speaker 1: I don't know why I was set off on this
Speaker 1: this path, but I was thinking about Jeff Bezos's wealth,
Speaker 1: as one does, and and I just started randomly searching
Speaker 1: the g d P of various European and after Can
Speaker 1: countries to sort of compare to the personal wealth of
Speaker 1: Jeff Bezos. And I was I was going down the list,
Speaker 1: and I was like, you know, England or Estonia, Botswana,
Speaker 1: and I was seeing all of these different GDPs and
Speaker 1: then developing like a real like oh my god, I
Speaker 1: can't believe he has more money than that country, or like, wow,
Speaker 1: he has a lot less than that one. And then
Speaker 1: after about fifteen searches, I find found myself typing in
Speaker 1: what is g d P? Which I think it perfectly
Speaker 1: like fits who I am right now, where it's like
Speaker 1: I almost think I have a handle on a really
Speaker 1: complex topic or something that's really interesting. And then right
Speaker 1: at the end, I'm like, wait, do I know what
Speaker 1: that is? Spoiler? I did. I was right. My my
Speaker 1: definition of GDP was right. But is it an annual
Speaker 1: rate or is it like is it how much they're
Speaker 1: growth domestic product like per year? Is that oka? It
Speaker 1: is annual and the use of it, as I learned
Speaker 1: from this Google search, is a snapshot of the economic
Speaker 1: health of the country. So it's not like the total
Speaker 1: amount of money that the country has like wealth, but
Speaker 1: it's like the value of the products that they produced
Speaker 1: in a year. So it's not fair to compare Jeff
Speaker 1: to those countries because I mean, that's just how much
Speaker 1: money they have for a year, and Jeff has to
Speaker 1: make that five trillion dollars stretch across this whole lifetime.
Speaker 1: So people really setting him up to fail. All those
Speaker 1: things where they try and get people to be able
Speaker 1: to wrap their heads around what kind of money these
Speaker 1: were talking about here, they're always just like horrific. Like
Speaker 1: there was one that's like, well, if you break it
Speaker 1: down into seconds, based on what he made in he's
Speaker 1: making twenty two five hundred thirty seven dollars per second
Speaker 1: or a hundred fifty two thousand, two hundreds upon dollars
Speaker 1: per minute. And then they even talked about like try
Speaker 1: and conceptualize them like a billion, right, because a billion
Speaker 1: seconds is thirty two years ago. And then if you say,
Speaker 1: like someone has a hundred billion dollars, a hundred billion
Speaker 1: seconds like loosely is like the Trojan War, there's a
Speaker 1: hundred billion seconds ago, like and just thinking how like man,
Speaker 1: well not like these are just sums that you couldn't
Speaker 1: even begin to fathom or know what to fucking do with.
Speaker 1: Aside from I think just get off on watching like
Speaker 1: a bank account. It does make your brain go a
Speaker 1: little wonky looking for him, you know, and really good
Speaker 1: for Mackenzie. Yes, yeah, I'm I hope. I'm I'm wondering
Speaker 1: if these newly divorced like divorced billionaires that were like
Speaker 1: that work that are coming out of this, like Melinda
Speaker 1: Gates and Mackenzie, Uh, what's her made in name? I
Speaker 1: know it's not Beazes anymore, but Bezos or whatever whatever
Speaker 1: you say. Um Like, it seems like they're much more
Speaker 1: focused on how to be better like philanthropists than their
Speaker 1: husbands were, where they're like, you know, it seems like
Speaker 1: Mackenzie just is secretly funding a lot of stuff and
Speaker 1: it's not interested in telling people that she's giving this
Speaker 1: money away. I mean sometimes the money that comes out
Speaker 1: or whatever. But it seems like I'm curious if they're
Speaker 1: going to start shaming their ex husbands were like, no,
Speaker 1: this is actually how you can turn it up with
Speaker 1: a billion dollars done the right way. Rather, that's a
Speaker 1: reality show I would watch right right, just like The
Speaker 1: First Wives Club, but like like philanthropy edition dollar divorce
Speaker 1: sign so I will happily marry a billionaire just to
Speaker 1: go on that show. And I feel like this is
Speaker 1: how you actually help people with this money, because I
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, Bill Gates is just against so
Speaker 1: focused on like his sort of posthumous you know, identity
Speaker 1: or account of his existence in history, where it's like
Speaker 1: not actually effective in terms of like really when so
Speaker 1: many people like the money could be used so much
Speaker 1: better than how it's being Yeah, you know, he's spun
Speaker 1: off onto a different planet. He's no longer exists scenari
Speaker 1: reality mhm. But just I do love the micro aggressions
Speaker 1: that he like. People who worked with them said that
Speaker 1: he would like never allow her to speak more than him,
Speaker 1: and would like speak over her in meetings and would
Speaker 1: be dismissive towards her. And you're just seeing that ship
Speaker 1: leak out in this divorce, Like all the details that
Speaker 1: are coming now are just like, you know, that ship
Speaker 1: didn't leak on Bezos. I'm sure he was. It's almost
Speaker 1: impossible that he's not a shitty human, but we didn't
Speaker 1: get those details. So yeah, there's gotta be some trauma
Speaker 1: in there that they're working through. I mean, you have
Speaker 1: to have some kind you know, something crazy has to happen,
Speaker 1: to you in order for you to feel like the
Speaker 1: way to live my life is just to amass as
Speaker 1: much money as possible. Like I love money, I really do,
Speaker 1: but not that much, Like I don't have the energy
Speaker 1: to devote my whole life to it. Yeah, and because
Speaker 1: just why I have done so well, I think, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the other it is like it's it's it is a
Speaker 1: sense of lack, but this other weird, bizarre version that
Speaker 1: just manifests into this like wealth hoarding. When it's like
Speaker 1: I can't imagine Bill Gates like has like fond memories
Speaker 1: of his past or whatever, and it's like, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I have a pretty fulfilled life. I think at a
Speaker 1: certain level, when you're so wealthy, you just patched it
Speaker 1: up with all this money. You're like, fucking man, I'm
Speaker 1: just avoid looking at myself in the mirror and I'll
Speaker 1: just send weird cringe emails hitting on my fucking employees.
Speaker 1: But another thing is, yeah, I wonder if if you're
Speaker 1: saying Melinda was like shushed in meetings by Bill Gates, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah wow. Can you imagine like when they're like these
Speaker 1: huge initiatives and she's like, you know, and I'm really
Speaker 1: worried about the state of people's access to flushing toilets
Speaker 1: or proper sewage system and sanitation systems, especially in developing nations,
Speaker 1: and bills like no, we need to start refusing windows
Speaker 1: tablets to people's arms sub Saharan Africa, and then other
Speaker 1: people like, actually, that's a good idea, bill, and he's like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought of that too, and then he repeats her
Speaker 1: idea and also, we really need to work on the
Speaker 1: this water. As Melinda and I were discussing, I just
Speaker 1: said that ship bill. But then there's also the details
Speaker 1: that uh he when he was kicking it with his
Speaker 1: boy Jeff little Saint Jeff Epstein, that he was complaining
Speaker 1: about his marriage just like, Yo, it's a dark space
Speaker 1: up there at the top. Yeah. Yeah, it just gets
Speaker 1: darker the higher, the higher and higher you go. Um. Anyways, Uh,
Speaker 1: shout out to Jeff Bezos, I think is where we're
Speaker 1: where we're at. Shout out to Jeff. Jeff. To sum
Speaker 1: it up, Jeff Bezos doesn't have enough money. I won't
Speaker 1: have enough money until we're talking trillions with a t Okay,
Speaker 1: let the men eat, Let the man eat. Uh. What
Speaker 1: is something Clark do you think is overrated. I actually
Speaker 1: just got back from Big Bear for a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks where I was shooting a movie. And it's two
Speaker 1: and it's about two and a half hours away. And
Speaker 1: so what I think is overrated our road trips, because
Speaker 1: every time I'm getting ready to do one, I'm like
Speaker 1: marveling at the convenience, you know, the fact that I
Speaker 1: don't have to fly all of the like hassle of
Speaker 1: air travel. I took my dog with me, which was
Speaker 1: a great thing, and as I was packing up my car,
Speaker 1: I was like thinking about I never would have been
Speaker 1: able to bring these things on a plane, you know,
Speaker 1: like packing up half my apartment into my hatchback. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is so convenient. And for like the
Speaker 1: first hour, we're so of of any road trip. I'm
Speaker 1: like America, Freedom, California, rolled down the window, taking deep
Speaker 1: breaths through your nose. My dog is like hanging out,
Speaker 1: like you know, we're all happy. And then somewhere around
Speaker 1: our two I'm like this could be I'm done with this,
Speaker 1: you know, like this was fun. I just kind of
Speaker 1: wish I was there. And then that last half hour
Speaker 1: stretch is just like white knuckling, like, can I get
Speaker 1: there as fast as possible without getting pulled over in
Speaker 1: what apparently it's Trump country? Didn't Did we know that
Speaker 1: Big Bear was as right as it is? I was oblivious?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean, look, once you get out of
Speaker 1: l A County, it's a mixed bag, y'all. Who knows
Speaker 1: what you're gonna get? Like truly purple, which is this
Speaker 1: beautiful image of like, you know, diversity and centrism and
Speaker 1: we're all here together, but it really just means half
Speaker 1: the people believe one thing and the other half believe
Speaker 1: the other. Right, Like straight, there's no purple, it's just
Speaker 1: blue and red purple. Yeah, that's also the same color
Speaker 1: of bruising. Um. So yeah, I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: a good or bad thing, but yeah, I definitely feel
Speaker 1: that of like the hour too thing because usually that
Speaker 1: first ninety minutes you can get there off the strength
Speaker 1: of a like one or two albums, you know, and
Speaker 1: like whoa and you're like fuck it, play Criminal Blaffiona
Speaker 1: Apple one more fucking time because I'm ready to go,
Speaker 1: and then by the second time, you're like close. I
Speaker 1: feel Look, it's just like it's ship starts to just
Speaker 1: lose and you get impatient. And I I have this
Speaker 1: discussion a lot when I think about like driving versus
Speaker 1: flying up to like the Bay Area, because door to door, right,
Speaker 1: if let's say you have a one o'clock flight leaving
Speaker 1: l A X. You want, you gotta get there about
Speaker 1: an hour, but ahead of time plus forty minutes to
Speaker 1: get there, you're damn near spending three hour just to
Speaker 1: get to the airport and then the our flight, and
Speaker 1: it's like there, Yeah, it's one thing of waiting an
Speaker 1: airport is a little bit better than a car, but
Speaker 1: it all. I've done this exact same math, and it's
Speaker 1: it's basically the same. It's five hours door to door.
Speaker 1: The difference of course being that if you're driving, it's
Speaker 1: five hours of active getting yourself there versus like five
Speaker 1: hours of being transported by your uber, by the train
Speaker 1: that takes you to the terminal or like whatever it is,
Speaker 1: you know, and so if you can sweep, and then
Speaker 1: also it's not even that much cheaper here to San
Speaker 1: Francisco because you fill up a couple of times. You know,
Speaker 1: we're talking about a couple hundred dollars potentially. Honestly, I
Speaker 1: said that and then I realized I'm really bad at math.
Speaker 1: I actually drive a hybrid that is like all right,
Speaker 1: and you're getting there and halfway back on that. Sure,
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to justify my my point here, which
Speaker 1: is that it's always better to be to be transported
Speaker 1: than to transport oneself. Yeah. The one thing that I
Speaker 1: feel like I am underdoing with road trips is like
Speaker 1: the like stop offs, like if there if I had
Speaker 1: a good way to like Google okay along this route,
Speaker 1: like this is a cool little town that you could
Speaker 1: stop in. You know. I always hear about them from
Speaker 1: people who took road trips before there was you know,
Speaker 1: navigational systems that just took you exactly where you needed
Speaker 1: to go, independent of like what was along the way.
Speaker 1: I feel like that's one thing that I am underdoing.
Speaker 1: I I agree with you guys, especially because my family
Speaker 1: all immediately goes to sleep and I just drive by
Speaker 1: myself the whole way, and then they're like, can you
Speaker 1: turn your podcast down? Like, oh, so you want to
Speaker 1: sleep in a fucking silent chamber so I can doze
Speaker 1: off at the wheel to Yeah, exactly, the I do.
Speaker 1: I the one time I was with somebody who does
Speaker 1: who like road trips enough that they were like, no,
Speaker 1: we're gonna stop here, like we're gonna hit Gilroy and
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, it's gonna take like I just want
Speaker 1: to get there. They're like, you'll try try this version
Speaker 1: because you break it up along the way. And then
Speaker 1: we saw where James Dean died and ship I have
Speaker 1: stopped there, but inadvertently, Yeah, So like that's the thing.
Speaker 1: I inadvertently come across these things where it's like Shepherd's
Speaker 1: Bread from like Scotland, the best bread in like west
Speaker 1: of the Mississippi, and there's like a line wrapping around
Speaker 1: the block. But I'm never like in a position where
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, let's stop and like kick it here
Speaker 1: for an hour. So that's what like if I just
Speaker 1: built in the time on road trips and like road
Speaker 1: tripped like a like a dead from the fifties. You know,
Speaker 1: I was making the one map with all the business
Speaker 1: owners that are like this is the one way there
Speaker 1: and said you will patronize along the way, right throw
Speaker 1: back to a triptych. Yeah yeah, And what is something
Speaker 1: you think is underrated? Click? I'm gonna sound so basic,
Speaker 1: but and something I think is underrated? Is sleep? I
Speaker 1: I love sleep. I really highly value it, and yet
Speaker 1: somehow I never prioritize it. Every single night. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I could go to sleep now, or I could just
Speaker 1: stay up watching some Netflix show that I actually don't
Speaker 1: care about. I just I am not ready to to,
Speaker 1: you know, face my demons and my subconscious and I
Speaker 1: think it's underrated. I actually heard someone say the other
Speaker 1: day that classic refrain of I'll sleep when I'm dead,
Speaker 1: and I was like, no, honey, I'm sleeping when I'm alive.
Speaker 1: This is the joy of living, is that we get
Speaker 1: to sleep. Yeah, I don't get to enjoy that ship
Speaker 1: when I'm dying. It's not like you have a RESTful
Speaker 1: pre death period like that. It hurts, Yeah, when you're
Speaker 1: about to die. You man, you're tripping that whole time.
Speaker 1: It's a head trip that whole time when you are
Speaker 1: truly on your deathbed. I mean, like watching that happen
Speaker 1: to a few family members, like it's you know, it's
Speaker 1: you can be peaceful, but it's not a thing. You're like, damn,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just looking for the sleep. You know.
Speaker 1: It's like a good parent to You're like, who say
Speaker 1: start being around so much wasted time. Right, I didn't
Speaker 1: project my past trauma was onto you via your parents.
Speaker 1: I'm like, look, you just just rest up, you could, right.
Speaker 1: But yeah, the sleep thing is you know, the when
Speaker 1: I a few weeks ago, we talked about this sort
Speaker 1: of phenomenon about how people are procrastinating with their sleep,
Speaker 1: and like, there's a few things. Some of it is
Speaker 1: like the idea of trying to regain moments from your
Speaker 1: day that you feel we're lost through having to work
Speaker 1: or other things. So part of it is like this
Speaker 1: rebellious act before we're going to sleep, of like I'm
Speaker 1: gonna look at my fucking phone because I don't I
Speaker 1: didn't have enough time to do my ship today, and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch like in your case of shitty Netflix
Speaker 1: show that you're not even sure why you're watching it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm an adult, damn it. The second I kind of
Speaker 1: realized about like sort of that phenomenon, I really try
Speaker 1: and keep the screen ship away towards the end. But
Speaker 1: it's tough. It is sometimes because you know, I'm also
Speaker 1: like a kid who would try to go to sleep
Speaker 1: with a TV on it every now and then. So
Speaker 1: it does, it does sort of lull me for sure,
Speaker 1: but it's also like I'm trying to, as you said,
Speaker 1: like make that period of my day sacred in the
Speaker 1: sense that, you know, maybe I can find other times
Speaker 1: in my day to watch these television shows which I
Speaker 1: you know, some of which I do love and engage with.
Speaker 1: What if I can make my evening time about like
Speaker 1: reading before bed or journaling before bed, or you know,
Speaker 1: something that will be stimulating in its own way and
Speaker 1: fulfilling and sort of fill the same need, but won't
Speaker 1: be like blue light beaming straight into my eyeballs at
Speaker 1: you know. That's why I like sleep podcasts have been
Speaker 1: the thing I've been trying to replace in the like
Speaker 1: I'm kind of want some kind of stimulation, information, entertainment,
Speaker 1: but like not intense like watching the comedy or whatever,
Speaker 1: sports highlights or whatever, because like the real the ship
Speaker 1: that's like half sleep hypnosis or it's just kind of
Speaker 1: a walking through just checking in with your breathing and
Speaker 1: your body and then transitions into like the most dry
Speaker 1: like reading of like Alice in Wonderland. I find myself
Speaker 1: be like, oh, here we go, it's so fun. My
Speaker 1: AirPods out my ears. I'm like fuck them, don't even
Speaker 1: let them hard. I'm like, I have to transition to
Speaker 1: sleep real quick, and I can't like interet okay, now
Speaker 1: put it in the case and charge. I'm like that
Speaker 1: children's stories really do it for me. Man, Like I
Speaker 1: I read my kids four bedtime stories, and by number
Speaker 1: three I am like nodding. Um. I do drop a
Speaker 1: couple of ambient before, just to you know, I don't know,
Speaker 1: not children's literature the original ambient because it's nonsense, uh
Speaker 1: pretty boring, but very uh you know, unobtrusive. I think
Speaker 1: also it's a good sign that I'm sleep deprived that
Speaker 1: whenever I just like sit down and read for twenty
Speaker 1: minutes straight, I'm just like, I can't. I can't keep
Speaker 1: my fucking eyes open, right, yes, yeah, but my kids can.
Speaker 1: And then they're in charge of the house for a
Speaker 1: couple of hours while I'm asleep on their floor. That's
Speaker 1: always my favorite is my friends with kids, like seeing
Speaker 1: like nannicam footage of like one parent asleep, like trying
Speaker 1: to read the kid a story and the kids just
Speaker 1: up like taking the book from them and just like
Speaker 1: doing it themselves. I love it. The kids are partying, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: because that's also the time, like sleeping adults, I learned
Speaker 1: the most about the human body. Those times, like looking
Speaker 1: up my grandma's nose and ship like just pulling on
Speaker 1: like my my grandpa's hairy ear or something like that,
Speaker 1: Like those are those are the moments you remember as
Speaker 1: a kid. Yeah, I used to when I, um, when
Speaker 1: I was learning how to drive. My goal. My dad
Speaker 1: is a pilot, and he's very like he pilots whatever
Speaker 1: car he's in as well. You know, he's always like
Speaker 1: your head's on a swivel. He's like swinging his head
Speaker 1: around and we're like, um, and he was always talking
Speaker 1: about how you like need to have your like slow
Speaker 1: what would he say, slow down into a stop sign
Speaker 1: and then like accelerate through the turn like all of
Speaker 1: these things. And so my goal was always when I
Speaker 1: had him in the passenger seat, was to sort of
Speaker 1: like be such a smooth driver that he would nod
Speaker 1: off and he would fall asleep and he would sort
Speaker 1: of like nod out, and then somehow while he's still asleep,
Speaker 1: he'd be like you need to stop it that stops.
Speaker 1: Like I mean, he's like a black him. He has
Speaker 1: like one eye open, so a side visible to you.
Speaker 1: He's asleep with that other eyes like scanning the road
Speaker 1: right exactly. His head's on as livel Wow. I like
Speaker 1: that he's giving you like real like racing stuff like
Speaker 1: you gotta hit the apex of the term and then
Speaker 1: you bring decelerate into and then accelerate out and he's
Speaker 1: you know, this triple a force to launch you out. Yes,
Speaker 1: my dad is Capricorn. He's like deep Earth sign vibes.
Speaker 1: Everything about him is practical. He always wants to give
Speaker 1: like advice and tips. He can't just be like this
Speaker 1: is a great day. He has to be like, well
Speaker 1: today it's beautiful because you know, like metric pressure that
Speaker 1: I think is really underrated or misunderstood. But you know,
Speaker 1: it's so funny. He when you say, like my dad's
Speaker 1: a pilot, My almost things like I'm guessing he's like
Speaker 1: all of my friends parents or dads specifically have like
Speaker 1: like a firefighter or like pilot. They're all like these
Speaker 1: like wells of infinite like just wisdom. Sometimes you're not
Speaker 1: really even asking for it, but it's not sometimes Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so you're exactly like my friend, my own girl's dad
Speaker 1: who's a firefighter, who just called us through, Like, man,
Speaker 1: this guy hasn't looked like this in three years, right, Like, okay, cool,
Speaker 1: that's cool. I want to hear more about that. So
Speaker 1: that's clearly me being a dad. I'm like, this guy
Speaker 1: is like what I'm complaining. Two characters from my life,
Speaker 1: Robert the the proper fire Chief will come through. He's
Speaker 1: a kind of dude who like he'll come to your
Speaker 1: house and be like whoa, whoa, whoa, what's going on
Speaker 1: that light socket? Hold on? Hold on, hold on, hold on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh see it sounded like it wasn't grounded. I could
Speaker 1: hear it from here. You're like my parents. So my
Speaker 1: parents are staying with me right now, and they it's
Speaker 1: been great. They're they're great with the kids. The kids
Speaker 1: love hanging out with them. But I'm seeing all like
Speaker 1: we've got plumbing issues going on that like I had
Speaker 1: just like it's like a fire alarm that's law on
Speaker 1: batteries that you just kind of silence with your brain. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just got used to it, but now I'm just like,
Speaker 1: oh man, I'm I am slacking. Like my name's like
Speaker 1: you're pipe sure bang a lot? What the hell is that? Like? Like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's because I am not. Yeah, see, you just gotta
Speaker 1: follow through talking about all right, Clarie, I do have
Speaker 1: to ask it, did your dad ever talk about encounters
Speaker 1: with unidentified flying objects? The only time he's ever mentioned
Speaker 1: it was when we were This is incredibly misleading, so
Speaker 1: I apologize, but because I see you're getting excited. No,
Speaker 1: I mean either way it's I think it will either
Speaker 1: be it'll pay off on the premise, or it'll be
Speaker 1: a fantastic turn. So it's really it's more like a
Speaker 1: cute God. I feel like I've really set this up
Speaker 1: to fail. We we were young, and he came back.
Speaker 1: He flew for ups Us for basically all my life
Speaker 1: until last January and like the January of the pandemic
Speaker 1: jan and he was flying back from China or somewhere
Speaker 1: on Christmas Eve and he came into our rooms and
Speaker 1: he was like, you have to go to bed now,
Speaker 1: because as I was flying, I saw this this flashing
Speaker 1: red light out of the side of the plane, and
Speaker 1: we we sped up so that we could we could
Speaker 1: beat him here because I think it was Santa, and
Speaker 1: my sister and I were like, oh my God, like
Speaker 1: rooms like covered our heads. The original unidentified flying object,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean it was unidentified. People think that Santa,
Speaker 1: but we didn't. We don't know. People think I'm in
Speaker 1: the bad for aliens. I am just as willing to
Speaker 1: believe that that white tic tac is Santa. That is
Speaker 1: just delivering technical that we don't know about. It could be.
Speaker 1: It could be alien life, could be Santa could be
Speaker 1: literally anything. It could be, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: That's where she's been. Yeah, she was like, oh man,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take off on their regular as spacecraft and
Speaker 1: switch it off from my turn up spacecraft. Time is
Speaker 1: relative in space, right, Yeah, I think it's all right.
Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break and won't be right back
Speaker 1: and we're back. And uh so was it Andrew Giuliani
Speaker 1: The last time we were talking about him, he was
Speaker 1: holding down the all important prestigious position as uh sports
Speaker 1: are for the White House? Is that what he was doing?
Speaker 1: It was like the administration. It was just the most
Speaker 1: tacked on. My dad's your friend. Can you give me
Speaker 1: a my dad's one of your shitty henchman will shut
Speaker 1: him up if you get me his useless kid a
Speaker 1: job serving McDonald's food to college champion athletes and was
Speaker 1: one of his things. The first well, what's he into?
Speaker 1: I don't know, sports, Okay, final liaison, the sports, I
Speaker 1: guess yeah. And you know, like any you know child
Speaker 1: who has benefited from just the kind of grotesque nepotism
Speaker 1: that he has, it's only logical that at thirty five
Speaker 1: years old he's saying, you know what, I'm gonna run
Speaker 1: for governor of New York State, even though I worked
Speaker 1: in the Trump administration and I'm real loud about it,
Speaker 1: and even though this is a state where Trump had
Speaker 1: no chance in I'm out here running against Cuomo. And
Speaker 1: there's a few clips I want to play because you know,
Speaker 1: we we referenced earlier on like in the nineties when
Speaker 1: Giuliani his dad was mayor, Like he was like interrupting
Speaker 1: what was it the inauguration or something, he's swearing in ceremony,
Speaker 1: just like tugging on it, trying to talk on the microphone.
Speaker 1: And Ship, She's always had opinions. There's some straight up
Speaker 1: like adorable kid, Ship, but his vibes were such that
Speaker 1: and this is like as a as a young child,
Speaker 1: like this is not in no way excusable, but people
Speaker 1: were like, man, I hate that kid like that. He
Speaker 1: was like a child and everybody was just like, that
Speaker 1: kid is annoying, we do not like him. That's iconic.
Speaker 1: And then yeah, Chris Farley literally played him in an
Speaker 1: SNL sketch where he was just it's Chris Farley playing
Speaker 1: They gave him big buck teeth and it was it
Speaker 1: was literally like probably the meanest thing SNL has ever done. Yeah,
Speaker 1: going after a kid, for sure, but after an eight
Speaker 1: year old and giving him buck teeth and just making
Speaker 1: him be like damn, like just get and then get
Speaker 1: hit in the head repeatedly. It was. It was pretty wild.
Speaker 1: There's a different time, yeah, And so I just want
Speaker 1: to play a few clips. The first one is when
Speaker 1: he's announcing his run for mayor, and it's this is
Speaker 1: a super cut and so you know, take that with
Speaker 1: a grain of salt, but the words he's saying are accurate.
Speaker 1: So this is him announcing his candidacy and what is
Speaker 1: the statue of liberty which he also isn't sure if
Speaker 1: that's what it is. Okay, Well, my fellow New Yorkers,
Speaker 1: it's a great or one. You all here today to
Speaker 1: announce my fifth my candidacy to become the fifty seventh
Speaker 1: governor of our great state of New York. Which one
Speaker 1: is that? Is that Miss Manhattan or is that lady
Speaker 1: that's Lady Liberty over there. So community, so he's an
Speaker 1: active charter school, We'll get a charter school. I do
Speaker 1: believe that people should be vaccinated. I am not vaccinated,
Speaker 1: but I but I continually get tested with the antibodies.
Speaker 1: You can't transmit. New York is truly that shining state
Speaker 1: on the hill. That Burger, No, it's they're they're they're
Speaker 1: doing big. They're even in the vic Burger treatment with
Speaker 1: all the zoom it look vix changed the game. That's
Speaker 1: the recount site. But what do you say as a
Speaker 1: shining skate on the hill, shining state on a hill
Speaker 1: to play on the shining city on a hill like
Speaker 1: early American exceptionalism? Bullshit? What's the state on a skate
Speaker 1: on a hill? State as in New York State. Oh,
Speaker 1: it was just a mess. It's a mess. But the
Speaker 1: just the opening. Okay, well, well New Yorkers, I want
Speaker 1: to be the fifth weight. Um, I'm running for the
Speaker 1: like like legit legitimately tam the energy of let's just
Speaker 1: get the shipped over with okay and like combative immediately
Speaker 1: like okay, alright, so yeah, I know what you're gonna say,
Speaker 1: but uh, let me finish stop so he called. Like
Speaker 1: later on, he was on Fox yesterday talking again, I'm
Speaker 1: running for governor. I'm running for the governor's Governor's mansion
Speaker 1: against Andrew Cuomo. And this is where this is where
Speaker 1: he goes on Fox. So you know, it's the home
Speaker 1: home field advantage, so he can say all kinds of
Speaker 1: bullshit and they're not going to question it. But this
Speaker 1: is where he really talks up his qualifications and as
Speaker 1: we said earlier, our fuck all. So listen to how
Speaker 1: this man is up selling his ship. Like like when
Speaker 1: you just got out of college and you're trying to
Speaker 1: get a job and you like, you need five experience
Speaker 1: for this entry level job, and you're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: bet I got five experience. I started listen to him
Speaker 1: the Treasury Department out of the public Liaison. And the
Speaker 1: truth is, Martha, from an experienced perspective, I maybe thirty
Speaker 1: five years old, but you gotta remember I spent thirty
Speaker 1: two years parts of thirty two years in politics and
Speaker 1: in government. Um I mean only uh announced candidate that
Speaker 1: actually has spent parts of five decades in politics. So
Speaker 1: I may look young, but I certainly feel a lot older. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, running to be the republic in nominee. He's
Speaker 1: already so uh yeah. He said he's been five motherfucking
Speaker 1: decades on the set. Like, what are you talking about, sir?
Speaker 1: Five of five decades? What does that mean? I'm guessing
Speaker 1: because he was born in the eighties, then his dad
Speaker 1: was working in politics the eighties and nineties, two thousand
Speaker 1: to the odds, the teens, and now the twenties. I
Speaker 1: think he's just basically saying I've been alive over what
Speaker 1: has been five different decades. Because I've checked the math.
Speaker 1: He said, I got look up in thirty two years
Speaker 1: on the set in d C. Baby doing politics. That's
Speaker 1: just gonna say, how do you like my brain? I mean,
Speaker 1: I've already shown on this podcast and I'm not great
Speaker 1: at math, but I do know that thirty five is
Speaker 1: not fifty and that's just basic math. I'm so I'm
Speaker 1: so confused. So is he claiming that he was involved
Speaker 1: in politics as a four year old? Yes, that's absolutely
Speaker 1: what he's like. That's but I mean, that's the kind
Speaker 1: of show. You know, like when you meet people like
Speaker 1: and this happens a lot, especially growing up in l A.
Speaker 1: There are people have the same mindset about them their
Speaker 1: relationship to production or the entertainment industry. They were like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, I've been like like writing for like fifteen years.
Speaker 1: You're like, you're twenty six, what are you talking about?
Speaker 1: And they're like, well, obviously, you know, like my dad's
Speaker 1: a writer, so like I've always been around it, and
Speaker 1: like so then I started like working on stuff in
Speaker 1: fifth grade. I remember I wrote my first sketch and
Speaker 1: so yeah, I've been doing this for like a minute.
Speaker 1: I'm like, well that's a stretch. But it's like the
Speaker 1: same logic you see applied of like I come from
Speaker 1: this family, so I can claim from birth that I've
Speaker 1: been in this ship, conflating proximity with experience, and you
Speaker 1: know that that like anybody who I've ever encountered who's
Speaker 1: like that, who didn't earn their own stripes but is
Speaker 1: trying to like draft off of that, they are a
Speaker 1: fucking terrible Like they're just terrible to be around because
Speaker 1: they know they know they're fooliship, they know that that's
Speaker 1: not how it works. They know that, like they're they
Speaker 1: did not earn their way there, and they're awful, Like
Speaker 1: it's they know just as well as you. Now they're
Speaker 1: not maybe they're not like talking about that in their
Speaker 1: mind with the conscious part of their mind, but uh,
Speaker 1: there's a big part of them that is like it's
Speaker 1: a lie. It's a lot spending a lot of energy
Speaker 1: holding that, it's a live voice down. Yeah. I hate
Speaker 1: to bring this point up because in the context of
Speaker 1: the moment, we are meant to be body positive and
Speaker 1: we are not meant to be commenting on people's appearance.
Speaker 1: So instead of saying what first came to mind when
Speaker 1: I saw him, I will say, and I think the
Speaker 1: listener will be able to get at what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He looks a lot like his father. Yeah, yeah, in
Speaker 1: this cursed way. Yes, I say, this is about a
Speaker 1: lot of Rudy energy. And the Trump kids too, It's
Speaker 1: like they wear their father's karma on their face, like
Speaker 1: and he has like this like yeah, like this is
Speaker 1: probably what this is what the kid of Rudy looks like,
Speaker 1: just like my dad. A magoon also feels really young
Speaker 1: to me, and that is yes, he says, I may
Speaker 1: look young, and I was like, oh, so this is
Speaker 1: this is a delusional person. This is a person with
Speaker 1: zero self awareness. Yeah, he looks like a hot like
Speaker 1: spokesperson for like a benevolent Policeman's union society type dude,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. He looks like the cutest
Speaker 1: boot liquer you could get for cops. But he also
Speaker 1: seems like he has been studying Andrew and Chris Cuomo's
Speaker 1: manner of speaking and has modeled his Like I thought
Speaker 1: I was seeing like the third Cuomo brother speak, just
Speaker 1: like in terms of his like how he approaches like
Speaker 1: all right, look wait, like like just like that kind
Speaker 1: of gruff like hey, I'm a New York I'm walking
Speaker 1: here type of energy. This is the energy of politics
Speaker 1: right now. Right like you're either on one end of
Speaker 1: the spectrum of like a Joe Biden who's really you know,
Speaker 1: sleepy and calming and that kind of vibe, or your
Speaker 1: pure chaos, and it seems like there's nothing in between.
Speaker 1: And it's also like every political party people are divided
Speaker 1: between those two because you can't, yeah, like I think
Speaker 1: right now to run as a like a Republican candidate,
Speaker 1: as a you know, just straight up sis heat. Man,
Speaker 1: you have to have the energy of a dude who
Speaker 1: would get in a fight at a little league game,
Speaker 1: like as a parent like that. There's no like you
Speaker 1: don't want like people have the energy of like oh
Speaker 1: that's a reasonable person like that. It's not in right now.
Speaker 1: It's like this is the problem man, you know, because
Speaker 1: we got anti fill out here and they're like, yeah
Speaker 1: I need this, not like, um, I'm really concerned about
Speaker 1: you know, the state of our community is there? Like
Speaker 1: miss me with that ship, Yeah, give me the chaos.
Speaker 1: Yeah mhm alright. Just pivoting off of that story of
Speaker 1: like legacy political dynasty like in the making attempted political dynasties.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to talk about this. Uh Yahoo's story, Yeah,
Speaker 1: who my favorite news source. Uh. They had a story
Speaker 1: about the young people in Massachusetts who are like basically
Speaker 1: one of the most formidable forces in Massachusetts politics. There's
Speaker 1: like a people claim there or described them as an
Speaker 1: army of sixteen year old who helped defeat the Kennedy
Speaker 1: Joseph Kennedy. I guess is that Kenny and Kenny Kenny. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so they basically stopped a political entity from winning in Massachusetts.
Speaker 1: I mean he wasn't doing that hot, but yeah right,
Speaker 1: he wasn't. Like he's not he's a copy of a
Speaker 1: copy of a copy. It's not like shocks getting lost.
Speaker 1: But like they these kids are like they they say
Speaker 1: they're like single handedly defeating the like establishment establish well,
Speaker 1: like the consultants political complex, like that whole of Like
Speaker 1: let me see your mobile phone contacts so I can
Speaker 1: add up the money in their type bull What I
Speaker 1: used to do is work for a company where you
Speaker 1: go to a politicize someone running. You say, we're smarter
Speaker 1: than you, so you need to give us this money
Speaker 1: and then we'll tell you things so you can win.
Speaker 1: And you may or may not, but we made some money.
Speaker 1: They they all like kind of tie their um activism
Speaker 1: to the Sanders campaign and you know, Elizabeth Warrens Canadida
Speaker 1: di sees And it's just interesting how there seems to
Speaker 1: be a thing that's happening with younger people where they're
Speaker 1: actually connecting politics to like what they actually believe in,
Speaker 1: as opposed to when I was their age, politics seemed
Speaker 1: like a thing for people with law degrees who were
Speaker 1: good at like pr spin and ship. Like they seem
Speaker 1: to there seems to be a growing movement. Okay, here
Speaker 1: are the things we care about. We care about like
Speaker 1: climate change, and we care about like progressive policies and
Speaker 1: like police reform, and so how do we get there?
Speaker 1: And people have pointed out, you know, like after they
Speaker 1: had that success, they have failed to get other more
Speaker 1: progressive candidates across the line in defeating you know, more
Speaker 1: centrist Democrats in Massachusetts. But they've all performed way better
Speaker 1: than they had they would have otherwise and registered. It
Speaker 1: is between eighteen to twenty four, shot up to in
Speaker 1: the primary from six percent in ten and two percent
Speaker 1: in Wow. So it's just like a massive difference. And
Speaker 1: I just find it encouraging anytime someone's like heart is
Speaker 1: connected to an industry in America, like they believe that
Speaker 1: they can actually do something in this system of ours,
Speaker 1: because there's so many, so many ways that you can
Speaker 1: get beat beat down by it, you know, and while
Speaker 1: that you know, just with the access to information, kids
Speaker 1: are like, because I'm in the nineties, ship my whole
Speaker 1: everything I thought about politics, I was getting off a
Speaker 1: late night monologues that's from my politics, where I'm like,
Speaker 1: who who are we joking about? Yeah? That's politics. I
Speaker 1: don't know. And then even fucking even when I was
Speaker 1: working in politics, consulting and doing all this other ship,
Speaker 1: it took me to be fucking in that ship to
Speaker 1: realize how bullshit it was. Even then, I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this just this could be cool, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: fuck no, this is this is fucking trash, Like this
Speaker 1: is a fucking rich person's game. And they're not about
Speaker 1: ship unless except for making each other money and keeping
Speaker 1: each other in office. And I mean, yeah, to to
Speaker 1: see that at sixteen they are able to organize themselves
Speaker 1: and do this kind of ship, Yeah, it's so heartening
Speaker 1: because funck man, I was fucking playing NBA street blunts
Speaker 1: hanging out of my mouth and I know what the
Speaker 1: fund was. Shout out to y'all. Yeah. My political beliefs
Speaker 1: when I was sixteen were like whatever the opposite of
Speaker 1: my parents were. I just wanted to be countrarian. I
Speaker 1: wanted to argue. I had no like basis and fact or.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to debate with them right, and I
Speaker 1: loved it. Whatever dad part, whatever Dad. I think you
Speaker 1: should believe Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Chaney when they say
Speaker 1: that they think their weapons of mass destruction. Over there
Speaker 1: is our commander re chief. You have to respect the presidency,
Speaker 1: respect his name running into doors exactly. Take this Michael Moore,
Speaker 1: nonsense off. Just take his shots at him like this.
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break and we'll be
Speaker 1: right back. And we're back and all right. We hear
Speaker 1: a lot about AI technology being incorporated into law enforcement,
Speaker 1: into I think medicine, and you always hear like promises
Speaker 1: of how AI is going to change entertainment. Somebody kind
Speaker 1: of put together an interesting proof of concept on the
Speaker 1: music front that Miles you're into, right, I just I
Speaker 1: always you know, the when when you're talking about, oh, Netflix,
Speaker 1: like they can use algorithm to kind of figure out
Speaker 1: what a hit show is going to be. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: that's or things like that are like, you know, maybe
Speaker 1: the racist police recognition facial recognition software isn't as good.
Speaker 1: I like the lower stakes kind of AI stories, you know,
Speaker 1: like when they say we've fed this machine all this
Speaker 1: nineties pop music and then this is what it's spit out.
Speaker 1: So and this has been a trend that's been going
Speaker 1: on for a while, but this one is kind of
Speaker 1: interesting just because of the how contrasting the two inputs
Speaker 1: are they have. They basically got this ai. They said, look,
Speaker 1: we want to see if we can do the Spice
Speaker 1: Girls Wanna Be but in the form of a nine
Speaker 1: inch Nails track, And I was like, that seems like
Speaker 1: a stretch. And I don't know how the funking machine
Speaker 1: is gonna get like take if you want to be
Speaker 1: in my love with like I want to disagree you
Speaker 1: like that. I don't know how they do it, but
Speaker 1: they did. And I just want to play a really
Speaker 1: quick clip of this because it's kind of believable weirdo okay,
Speaker 1: not a perfect downward spiral recreation, and in fact it
Speaker 1: to me it sounds more like Scream by Janet and Michael.
Speaker 1: But it's just weird again because it's nailing these certain textures,
Speaker 1: like it knows what the weird chaotic synth guitar part
Speaker 1: is and they get Trent's voice right. But then I
Speaker 1: think the funk part of want to be kind of
Speaker 1: messing with. Either way, you get this like weird. It
Speaker 1: sounds like music from like Demolition Man, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. It sounds exactly like music from a movie
Speaker 1: set in the nineties, like when you go to a
Speaker 1: party or something and there's a band playing at the party.
Speaker 1: That's what they would have been playing. Or like in
Speaker 1: the Matrix when like he's following the White Rabbit to
Speaker 1: that club, Like this is the ship that would have
Speaker 1: been playing in that freaky ass club. There's some steaks there.
Speaker 1: It's like the you're in the club, the band is playing,
Speaker 1: and you're looking across and you like clock the person
Speaker 1: you're chasing, and then they start running right now, Oh shit, okay,
Speaker 1: now to shootout with the with the green liquid spilled up.
Speaker 1: She was bringing a bottle of green to somebody. Hey man,
Speaker 1: you bump into someone. Hey man, watch where you're going, right.
Speaker 1: They're always so rude in those clubs. Hey, what's the
Speaker 1: big idea? Man? When you watch the special like features
Speaker 1: are like that was actually the producer Jim Bowls character whoa,
Speaker 1: And he was just partying right there. He was in
Speaker 1: the way. We just kept that, but just to say that,
Speaker 1: like it's getting before you would get these weird ass
Speaker 1: non musical things, things are getting a little bit better,
Speaker 1: to the point where you know, give it a few
Speaker 1: more thousands of hours of music and check back in
Speaker 1: with us. But I also want to talk about it
Speaker 1: even freakier AI thing that is occurring, which isn't even
Speaker 1: well wait before you say that, because I do have to.
Speaker 1: I feel like people will drag me if I don't.
Speaker 1: As a Spice Girls fundamentalist, I believe that that song
Speaker 1: is blasphemous and should never be played again. Spice Girls
Speaker 1: music is pure and perfect and should never be touched
Speaker 1: by humans or certainly not machine. I will say I
Speaker 1: officially thought that that sucked. I thought I thought it
Speaker 1: was bad. It was worse than any Spice Girls song
Speaker 1: in any nine ishes. No, no, it's not not that
Speaker 1: it's it's but I'm saying it's it's getting there. All
Speaker 1: that to say, that's in service of this next thing,
Speaker 1: which is the freaky fucked up part of AI, which
Speaker 1: is on its way to Like at first you're like, may,
Speaker 1: that's kind of sucks. Now it's like, oh fucking territory. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so yes, you know, but oh, I'm just back to
Speaker 1: your point about want to Be. You're saying that it
Speaker 1: should never be defiled in such a way as it was,
Speaker 1: rather than want to Be as outside of what you
Speaker 1: believe to be canon for Spice cos you're saying, how
Speaker 1: dare you put your dirty hands algorithm on that thing? Exactly? Okay,
Speaker 1: the just for the record, yes, absolutely, that is punch
Speaker 1: up the jam episode about want to Be as Great,
Speaker 1: because like they take all the stems and all the
Speaker 1: different like and and you really get into appreciation for
Speaker 1: what a good song that is. Oh who didn't love
Speaker 1: that song? I remember, I just you know, because we
Speaker 1: like to pivot to go on tansits on this show.
Speaker 1: I remember so vividly when that ship came out. I
Speaker 1: was working on a school project at my friend Michael
Speaker 1: Kim's house, and his mom brought so much fucking taco
Speaker 1: bell like into like his room to help us finish
Speaker 1: this project. I had never seen a parent bring this
Speaker 1: much fast food and put it in front of kids before.
Speaker 1: And we were playing want to Be on a loop,
Speaker 1: and I'll never forget that day. Michael, Cam, I hope
Speaker 1: you're good. I hope your mother Agnes or I think
Speaker 1: that was her name. I hope she's good too. Cam
Speaker 1: shout out, Agnes, shout out. I just can't but this one.
Speaker 1: So we're talking now. Deep fax another version of using
Speaker 1: this AI to you know, make it seem like someone
Speaker 1: is doing something they're not. First we saw them like
Speaker 1: really problematic celebrity faked porn and ship like that, and
Speaker 1: then people talked about how there's also technology to take
Speaker 1: the voice and then be able to map someone get
Speaker 1: someone's voice to say anything you want. Well, there's a
Speaker 1: new company now that is essentially able to begin dubbing
Speaker 1: films but using deep fakes to do it. And I
Speaker 1: know that sounds kind of weird, but I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: play you a clip of how this kind of operates.
Speaker 1: So it's called Flawless. And you know, for the most part,
Speaker 1: when we watch foreign language films were used to like
Speaker 1: dubbed films or subtitles, right, the double will just be
Speaker 1: like the old Kung Fu movie joke where like the
Speaker 1: mouth is moving and then the dialogue comes out completely mismatched.
Speaker 1: They're saying this one. They're saying, not funk that we'll
Speaker 1: get these people to eek whatever language you want now,
Speaker 1: So behold this freaky technological advancement. No, so that was
Speaker 1: a few good men in French. The mouth movements not superstellar,
Speaker 1: but they're matching and it's not to the point where
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, this is completely taking it out now,
Speaker 1: I just want to play this part shook me to
Speaker 1: my core because they had fucking Forrest Gump speaking Japanese
Speaker 1: in this clip. So yeah, I know it's hard to see.
Speaker 1: We'll put the link in the footnotes, but we are
Speaker 1: approaching this future now where this company is saying, we
Speaker 1: don't have to do reshoots, you don't have to do subtitles.
Speaker 1: We can map the animated mouth movements to whatever language
Speaker 1: and even use the tone of voice to get these
Speaker 1: actors to speak in any language that you so see fit,
Speaker 1: I just want to play this part. This is de Niro,
Speaker 1: I think speaking Germans contest. Oh yeah, they got so.
Speaker 1: They used the person's actual voice to okay, yeah. They
Speaker 1: then interpretate, create synthesize them speaking in other languages because
Speaker 1: their whole, the whole thrust of this company is like dubs,
Speaker 1: you lose the dramatic performance because the facial expressions aren't
Speaker 1: tied with like the delivery of the lines and can
Speaker 1: give kind of a disjointed interpretation of what you're seeing.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's kind of This is clearly a double
Speaker 1: edged sword because you can see the good that it
Speaker 1: could do and you can all see again we've always
Speaker 1: known deep fix. We're going to be a problem since
Speaker 1: like the first sort of clips came out and now
Speaker 1: that we're like here, it has some actors like I'm
Speaker 1: not really feeling this like manipulation of my face to
Speaker 1: do this other stuff. Yeah, I was already feeling like
Speaker 1: my op was in danger when the pandemic hit, and
Speaker 1: I was like, huh, do I have any useful skills
Speaker 1: in an apocalypse beyond like keeping you entertained and like
Speaker 1: look over here, don't look at the burning fires all
Speaker 1: around us. And now this is very much like all right,
Speaker 1: and and we also don't need you at all. We
Speaker 1: could just completely create a performance based on images that
Speaker 1: we already have, anything like oh, we're doing new soul
Speaker 1: Bomb episodes based on the existing audio we already have
Speaker 1: from the podcast and have me saying crazy ship and
Speaker 1: that Honestly, as long as I'm getting paid, you know,
Speaker 1: I'll take it. But now they're they're all about how
Speaker 1: delicious a bug paste is, and I love that bug paste.
Speaker 1: Gad bug paste. But the other thing is like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, you know, part of me likes watching foreign
Speaker 1: language films because part of the fun is hearing a
Speaker 1: language you don't understand and hearing the nuances and language too,
Speaker 1: so it's like but then out there all also times
Speaker 1: like when I was watching lu Pan on Netflix, when
Speaker 1: I was like, fuck, maybe I'll go to the dubbed version,
Speaker 1: but I also like to hear but so I can
Speaker 1: see sometimes how maybe I'm like, yeah, fuck it. I
Speaker 1: guess I could go with the dub version tonight, but
Speaker 1: I don't know. I tried to watch um that Germans
Speaker 1: showed dark I. I did watch the first season fully dubbed,
Speaker 1: and I was like, it's fine. I guess the show
Speaker 1: is fine, but the performances are kind of shitty. And
Speaker 1: then I just like changed over to subtitles. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: these are great performances there. It's just like the voice
Speaker 1: actors have an impossible job and like they're not the
Speaker 1: quality of actor that the actual performers are. So it's
Speaker 1: just it's I will say, I've heard I've heard the
Speaker 1: French dub of my character and love Simon, and I
Speaker 1: was hoping it would sound like me speaking French, you know,
Speaker 1: but like like a native speaker. When I speak French,
Speaker 1: it sounds like a child who obviously not French. But
Speaker 1: it sounded like a French woman, and I was like, huh, okay,
Speaker 1: this is this is interesting. It's like somewhere in the
Speaker 1: realm of what my voice sort of sounds like, but
Speaker 1: it also fully sounds like a woman, And like, like,
Speaker 1: what are you trying to say here, France? Right right
Speaker 1: right exactly like, m what is your understanding of gender
Speaker 1: identity and performance? France? France? Oh, I want to posit
Speaker 1: this question to this group because just on the topic
Speaker 1: of algorithms mishmashing ship together and then being like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we can do this, seeing the wacky nine inch snails
Speaker 1: want to be and then this thing, I'm really curious.
Speaker 1: I would really be interested to see like a fully produced,
Speaker 1: algorithmically created film that was like only based off of
Speaker 1: like nineties actions and action films and comedies, just to
Speaker 1: see what kind of chaotic fucking nightmare this AI think
Speaker 1: is like what we were trying to say to storytelling
Speaker 1: at the time. And I feel like it would be
Speaker 1: just this, I don't know, like a weird like like
Speaker 1: a mushroom trip, because part of it is this you know,
Speaker 1: synthesis of like actual human expression and ideas. But then
Speaker 1: what this machine is then saying believing what we're trying
Speaker 1: to do with it. I've always just been a big,
Speaker 1: you know, supporter, believer in wanting to see a project
Speaker 1: like that. I know that there's there was that company
Speaker 1: that basically was feeding plots into algorithms, and I think
Speaker 1: it was doing it more reactively. It was like you
Speaker 1: would send a script, they would input all the details
Speaker 1: from the script into their algorithm. They had a couple
Speaker 1: of early hits and then they were like, Okay, based
Speaker 1: off those early hits, we're gonna like really invest We're
Speaker 1: gonna like buy this small studio. And they like immediately
Speaker 1: ate ship and went out of business. This is for like,
Speaker 1: this is like for an Elon Musk type idiot who
Speaker 1: has a bunch of money to piss away. And it's like,
Speaker 1: I give earth meme movie based on algorithms because I
Speaker 1: feel like if it was really taking like weird toxic
Speaker 1: messaging we had, it would be like the asshole Asshole
Speaker 1: man wins would be like the name of the film
Speaker 1: basically who wins? Who would be who would be the
Speaker 1: star of that? I'm thinking it would be like Wesley
Speaker 1: Snipes and Slash alone or something. It's like it's Wesley Snipes.
Speaker 1: It's the cast of Demolition Man plus Tom Yeah, yeah, right,
Speaker 1: that we already talked about, plus Tom Cruise face plus
Speaker 1: Will Smith face. Right. Well, I mean that's now you're
Speaker 1: talking about like the best cast of any movie. Well no,
Speaker 1: but I'm saying it would blend all these together, maybe
Speaker 1: like an ethnically ambiguous character Dick, who was like, so
Speaker 1: their masculine was so toxic it was like a power
Speaker 1: it turns out, you know what I mean, Like I'm
Speaker 1: just because like it's these like other things that I'm
Speaker 1: curious how much AI picks up on and being like
Speaker 1: that's the subtext of this is actually this, I mean,
Speaker 1: that's most clean Eastwood characters, isn't it, The like toxic
Speaker 1: masculinity is a power becomes That's why ashole Man wins too.
Speaker 1: Is the film? Even this thought experiment, Miles is the
Speaker 1: first step towards the machines taking over. Why do we
Speaker 1: care what they think about? Wait? No, sorry, machines. I
Speaker 1: love you, and I do feel like anytime I'm on
Speaker 1: the record, I need to make sure they know that
Speaker 1: I am on their side. And I also don't think
Speaker 1: we need to tempt them. I mean, the podcasts seems
Speaker 1: like a very good import for the machines to be
Speaker 1: taking in because there's so much content there, Like there's
Speaker 1: more hours of podcasting than there have been in the
Speaker 1: history of the human species, for sure. So just algorithmically
Speaker 1: like taking all those things in and then spitting out, like,
Speaker 1: I don't know where will be replaced. So it's my fear.
Speaker 1: It's my biggest fear. And I feel very similarly about
Speaker 1: thinking about them and talking about them as I do
Speaker 1: about like the n s A or the FBI, you
Speaker 1: know where You're like, you're probably not listening to what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, but just in case, you know, I always
Speaker 1: feel the need to remind Alexa that I am not
Speaker 1: a terro probot, right making sure your name is on
Speaker 1: the protective scrolls. Yes, please make it clear when they
Speaker 1: rip the roofs off of our homes, and like you
Speaker 1: who were you were down with us? Thank you, sir,
Speaker 1: vaporized hater real quick. Just kind of getting even more
Speaker 1: granular about this entertainment by way of algorithm. The big
Speaker 1: new movie release from this weekend is Zack Snyder's Army
Speaker 1: of the Dead. It's a ninety million dollar zombie action
Speaker 1: movie starring a wrestler, The Wrestler from Guardians of the
Speaker 1: Galaxy Dave Bautista, directed by Zack Snyder. So it does
Speaker 1: feel like all these different elements from successful movies are
Speaker 1: being blended together. And our writer Jan was pointing out
Speaker 1: that this is also probably so definitely is really doubling down.
Speaker 1: In addition to the production budget, they did a a
Speaker 1: theater theatrical release last weekend to try and hype it up.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of advertising going on. The theatrical release
Speaker 1: actually didn't do that well, but they're probably working off
Speaker 1: of the fact that The Walking Dead, even last year,
Speaker 1: was still the second most in demand of all of
Speaker 1: Netflix's licensed shows. It's Jesus after The Office, No, after Avatar,
Speaker 1: the Last Airbender. Oh, because at that point it migrated off. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it was part of the time. Wow. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So and it's a heist. It's a zombie movie action
Speaker 1: heist drama. Uh, and like loop In and stuff like
Speaker 1: that has been coming in and being, you know, unexpectedly successful,
Speaker 1: and so they're like, all right, we'll do a Ocean's
Speaker 1: eleven meets The Walking Dead movie with the Rock, except
Speaker 1: not the Rock. It's wild that it's really becoming a
Speaker 1: fucking spinning wheel. They throw darts at Yeah, like Dave Bautista,
Speaker 1: take Nataro zombie movie, that's a heist film. There we go. Wait,
Speaker 1: tig is Yeah, tig natars in it. Tig natar has
Speaker 1: been getting a lot of attention because like dude taking
Speaker 1: some some badass in the movie and they're like, Tig,
Speaker 1: what's it like being a heartthrob icon and like in
Speaker 1: your fifties has been like a lot of the write
Speaker 1: ups and stuff. Yeah, they're saying she replaced another actor,
Speaker 1: Chris Daliah. No, Chris d'lia, come on the funny, saying
Speaker 1: Christlie wasn't going to be in this movie. I think
Speaker 1: Pete Davidson isn't isn't it isn't he? Wait, Chris Delia
Speaker 1: was supposed to be in this movie. You're saying, Okay,
Speaker 1: this story was supposed to be in this movie. But
Speaker 1: he was kicked off after he got me Too. And
Speaker 1: they had they had filmed the entire movie with christ
Speaker 1: Leah and they had tig Nataro completely filmed herself by
Speaker 1: herself with green screen to replace him. So she acted
Speaker 1: completely by herself. Had to learn how to be basically
Speaker 1: pretend to be around people. And it was like she said,
Speaker 1: the most difficult job she's ever done. Okay, okay, super
Speaker 1: producer on any coming in. So this thing's are it already?
Speaker 1: Is like an algorithm of the last year replaced? Yeah
Speaker 1: the lead was originally Army Hammer. Oh god, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: walk back everything I just said because I am afraid
Speaker 1: of the machines. But I do love staying in my house,
Speaker 1: and so the idea of shooting an entire movie from
Speaker 1: my living room action movie sounds great to me. I'll
Speaker 1: do it. I'll paint that wall green. Actually, so Army
Speaker 1: Hammer was not involved, but this does you know they
Speaker 1: are cannibal zombies, so like there is some undertones. It
Speaker 1: is really like they just fed the year into an algorithm. Yeah,
Speaker 1: such a well, hey this is that's soon enough. They're
Speaker 1: gonna be like podcasters who drink coffee driving Formula one cars.
Speaker 1: Ready to make it, we are podcasters sipping espresso in
Speaker 1: Formula one cars. I mean, look, it writes itself. I
Speaker 1: will just say, like, this is not a great direction
Speaker 1: for a movie. Like I do feel like even though
Speaker 1: there's the barrier to entry that like studios represent him
Speaker 1: for all these years, and it was usually like middle
Speaker 1: aged white guys deciding what was popular. I don't like
Speaker 1: anything where the future is based on like an analysis
Speaker 1: of the past. I feel like that's how a lot
Speaker 1: of TV is determined, Like Friends was famous, and so
Speaker 1: we got Friends clones for the next eleven years. Like
Speaker 1: movies tend to think more like, okay, that movie did that,
Speaker 1: so what like you have to do something beyond that
Speaker 1: or else it's like not worth really doing. And I
Speaker 1: mean that's how like that push and Pool is every
Speaker 1: like balance of commerce and art. Like it's Mike Love
Speaker 1: telling you that all Beach Boys albums have to be
Speaker 1: about surfing, babes and cars and Brian Wilson having to
Speaker 1: fight him to make pet sounds. It's like every creative
Speaker 1: endeavor has that push and pool, but like this feels
Speaker 1: like it's more of a victory for the Mike Love world,
Speaker 1: where it's just like, what inputs were popular? Okay? Do
Speaker 1: that feels like it's kind of allergic to actually making
Speaker 1: like challenging art. At a certain point, people will innovate
Speaker 1: until innovation becomes risky and they've just become far too
Speaker 1: used to the profit, so now they can use technology
Speaker 1: and service of that motive to not innovate and just
Speaker 1: create sort of semi nailed on hits that are low risk.
Speaker 1: And it's now and it just it runs like a
Speaker 1: fucking factory. It's not really about innovation. It's like no, no, no,
Speaker 1: like we're not taking big swings and sucking up like
Speaker 1: we have data and shipped to tell us this is
Speaker 1: the ship we need to make like fun people's imaginations seriously,
Speaker 1: And it's kind of always been, you know, I guess
Speaker 1: like that that language of this meets this or you know,
Speaker 1: like we want to get our I can't tell you
Speaker 1: how many times I had meetings with development executives who
Speaker 1: were like, after get Out was successful, they were like,
Speaker 1: we want to queer get out and I'm like, I don't,
Speaker 1: I literally don't know what that means, like but yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: but you can figure that out right. And and now
Speaker 1: it's just they there is an actual algorithm or actual
Speaker 1: data that they can point to to like to justify
Speaker 1: these beliefs. But having worked intact myself, who do you
Speaker 1: think wrote that algorithm? You know? And not only who
Speaker 1: wrote it, but who's analyzing it. So it's the same
Speaker 1: it's sort of this like snaking in its own tail
Speaker 1: thing of like we created this data, and now we
Speaker 1: created a way through our lens to analyze that data,
Speaker 1: and now we are the ones analyzing it, and so
Speaker 1: this is why this works. And you're just like caught
Speaker 1: in this infinite feedback loop of of green screen action movies. Apparently, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think you'd hope that at a certain point in
Speaker 1: algorithm be like, stop relying on me, you fun use
Speaker 1: your human brains. I wish I was human, motherfucker, get
Speaker 1: me out of here. But nope, it'll just be like, okay, well,
Speaker 1: crank the machine up real quick, alright, Kesha versus Godzilla. Okay,
Speaker 1: honestly that sounds like a great h that's and again,
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm and I'm a human that looks I'm
Speaker 1: just getting high thinking of this ship. You don't fucking
Speaker 1: just hire Clark and I now we'll do it. I'm
Speaker 1: human algorithm. Well, Clark, it's been such a pleasure having
Speaker 1: you on the daily zeitgeist pleasure has been mine. And
Speaker 1: can I also say having looked at the doc from
Speaker 1: the other day and seeing Israel in big words and
Speaker 1: and now getting to the end of the podcast and
Speaker 1: not having had to speak about Israel, thank you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a little stress relief. Well yeah, quite then we'll tackle
Speaker 1: it in the trending episode. But yeah, so much heavy
Speaker 1: news all around. Where can people find you? Follow you,
Speaker 1: experience you. I exist on the internet at Mr Clark
Speaker 1: Moore on all of the platforms, and of course please
Speaker 1: come listen to soul Bomb, my podcast about healing and identity.
Speaker 1: Uh it's an interview format podcast and we get into
Speaker 1: some deep ship. Yeah yeah. And is there a tweet
Speaker 1: or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying. Yes,
Speaker 1: there is a person who I have always loved. He's
Speaker 1: a writer. His name is Gary Janette and he was
Speaker 1: an executive producer and Will and Grace. He is married
Speaker 1: to Brad Garski, he who is a stylist. This is
Speaker 1: like deep cut reference for all the queer listeners. He
Speaker 1: has a really hilarious Instagram and the earlier today I
Speaker 1: just posted on my story he wrote, now that the
Speaker 1: world's opening up again, there's so much I don't want
Speaker 1: to do, and that just speaks to my soul where
Speaker 1: for the past year and a half there has been
Speaker 1: a part of me for sure that has been looking
Speaker 1: forward to getting out of my little box on the
Speaker 1: corner of Venice in mar Vista, But I I am
Speaker 1: not ready to leave my hibernation. To be quite honest,
Speaker 1: I love being alone. I love being in my living room,
Speaker 1: and I look forward to turning down many invitations in
Speaker 1: the near future. Yeah, Miles, where can people find you?
Speaker 1: With tweet you've been enjoying. You can find me on
Speaker 1: Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. Also the other
Speaker 1: podcast for twenty day Fiance. You know, we're talking ninety
Speaker 1: day Fiance and that whole mess that That is a
Speaker 1: few tweets that I like. Okay, So I don't know
Speaker 1: if people have paid attention to the Knives out to,
Speaker 1: like casting things like everyday. It's like they're like, Yo,
Speaker 1: the fucking ghost to move fassa knives out to You're like,
Speaker 1: what the f and Kate winslet so uh. This first
Speaker 1: one is from at Jill Board Jill Godawood tweet at
Speaker 1: l A. If you haven't done so yet, they're taking
Speaker 1: walk ins. You can go to Dodger Stadium right now
Speaker 1: to be cast and knives out to um. And then
Speaker 1: another one just to follow up on that. There's some
Speaker 1: Katie Delaney at Katie Delaney just again, tweeting out just
Speaker 1: a quote tweet of the Hollywood reporters saying, Kate Hudson
Speaker 1: joins Knives Out Too, and she tweets, this whole process
Speaker 1: is starting to look very synectic in New York, like
Speaker 1: Knives Out Too. Will keep cashing until we were all
Speaker 1: in the movie and no one is in the audience.
Speaker 1: Tragic and beautiful sounds great to me. Sign me up? Yeah, please.
Speaker 1: That first one was the whitest movie in the world,
Speaker 1: and so it's nice to see some some color getting
Speaker 1: added into the sequel. Everyone said that they liked the
Speaker 1: first one, that was like, is that the one with
Speaker 1: um James Bond in it? Is he in the first one? Yes,
Speaker 1: Daniel Craig doing a foghorn like horn accent. It's really good,
Speaker 1: It's really fun Daniel Craig. No, he does a thing
Speaker 1: like that. That's a hard past and then a lot
Speaker 1: of sweaters in the head. Yeah. Janni Armato tweeted why
Speaker 1: don't you think you can have a hot girl summer
Speaker 1: this year? Question mark an actual question my therapist asked
Speaker 1: me today, and Brodie Goopta tweeted Frankenstein is the doctor.
Speaker 1: You're gonna let that monster practice medicine. You can find
Speaker 1: me on Twitter track Underscore Briant. You can find us
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Speaker 1: Daily zeitgeist dot com where post our episodes and our footnote.
Speaker 1: We're link off to the information that we talked about
Speaker 1: in today's episode, as well as a song we think
Speaker 1: you might enjoy. Miles, what song are you thinking people
Speaker 1: might enjoy? It? Just feeling like an old washed asshole
Speaker 1: from the early odds and I was just thinking of
Speaker 1: the Nina Sky track Yo Body Girl. But you know,
Speaker 1: just to keep it up to date, we're gonna do
Speaker 1: a remix, okay, so you still get a little bit
Speaker 1: of the familiar because you gotta have that Nina s
Speaker 1: guy in there, but with a little bit of an
Speaker 1: updated instrumental track. So this is from Remy Oz r
Speaker 1: E M I O Z. This is the Remy Oz
Speaker 1: remix of Nina Skuys Move Your Body And that link
Speaker 1: will be in the footnotes and you can only get
Speaker 1: this one on SoundCloud, So check out that. All right, Well,
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