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Speaker 1: Weekly Zeitgeist. Uh. These are some of our favorite segments
Speaker 1: from this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment
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Speaker 1: the Weekly Zeitgeist. Uh. Well we speaking of the bro cycle. Uh.
Speaker 1: We are thrilled to be joined in our third seat
Speaker 1: by the brilliant, the talented, the hilarious Brody Roos. What's
Speaker 1: to be back in the bro chair? Um to read
Speaker 1: fly Away on my Pepper, tasted more and Chad, you
Speaker 1: guys like that song? Hell yeah, alright, we're here, We're here.
Speaker 1: It's good to be here. Don't listen to myles. Everyone.
Speaker 1: Don't get the vacs. Definitely get the vacs. Just get
Speaker 1: the first one. You don't have to get dude, it hurts.
Speaker 1: It's funny how many people I've actually had to convince
Speaker 1: to get vaccinated. Yeah, me too. Um, I am friends
Speaker 1: with like all of my close friends are just like hella,
Speaker 1: old people. They come over, we play cards and we
Speaker 1: um play chess and they tell me about the Tuskegee
Speaker 1: experiments and stuff like that. Right, you know I had
Speaker 1: to show them. Um, you know a power point um
Speaker 1: every single time. Okay, that's fair, that's fair. That's fair. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's fair. Absolutely. So I've had to convince people in
Speaker 1: my life to get first shot, second shots, third shots.
Speaker 1: But they're getting them. I'm holding them down. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: putting them in their arms. I got I got a
Speaker 1: friend to to get vaccinated because I said we wouldn't
Speaker 1: be able to go to a Laker game. And he
Speaker 1: was like, oh for real. He's like, okay, yeah, I
Speaker 1: should probably get that then, and I was like, I
Speaker 1: couldn't been. I got real mad, like I didn't tell him,
Speaker 1: but I was like, the funk, bro. It wasn't everything else.
Speaker 1: It was merely the thought of you getting embarrassed walking
Speaker 1: into Staples Center when they're like, you've been vaccinated, my man,
Speaker 1: And You're like, was that friend Lebron James by the way,
Speaker 1: because he doesn't seem to want to get vaccinated, which
Speaker 1: I understand because he does seem to be the only
Speaker 1: indestructible human being on the planet. But still, man, you
Speaker 1: could be passing that ship around, right. I understand it
Speaker 1: from like a comic book level, but not in reality.
Speaker 1: Based on Ron, they said I can't go to anime
Speaker 1: conventions anymore unless I got it. So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: We were also talking before we recorded about the uh,
Speaker 1: the difficulties socially of emerging back into the world. It's
Speaker 1: it's not easy. It's never been easy for me. I
Speaker 1: worked from home for four years, just in a kitchen
Speaker 1: where uh my wife was going to medical school, so
Speaker 1: I barely saw her. Uh. And then we moved to
Speaker 1: l A from Colombia, Missouri, and I didn't know how
Speaker 1: to talk to people anymore. I was like, I couldn't
Speaker 1: even like be in a public setting. It was wild.
Speaker 1: I mean, some people you would argue that you still
Speaker 1: don't know how to talk to people, right, yea, why
Speaker 1: is he only looking at my shoes? Ye? But yeah,
Speaker 1: should be be patient with yourself to everyone. We're all
Speaker 1: we're all gonna be a little awkward here. At first.
Speaker 1: We had to literally changed full on our way of
Speaker 1: life rapidly. So yeah, it's gonna it'll take a minute
Speaker 1: to thaw. Yeah, start off simple. Get some um, have
Speaker 1: some like board game parties before you have full blown parties,
Speaker 1: you know, play some rapples to apples or something like stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you want to prevent like people getting so fucked up,
Speaker 1: they start getting emotional phase of partying. Like it's like
Speaker 1: about a month in for me, I'm gonna be like, no,
Speaker 1: we're not no, no, we're not drinking like that. We're
Speaker 1: not drinking like that. We are at a pool party
Speaker 1: right now, Yeah, exactly. My turn up schedule has me
Speaker 1: turning up and about six weeks. So yeah, people experiencing
Speaker 1: social anxiety for the first time like that that will
Speaker 1: make you drink too fast. Do not. Don't do that
Speaker 1: because you're like, oh, I gotta gotta get as many
Speaker 1: of these and in the old body, I'm gonna have
Speaker 1: My first house party is going to be strictly Martin
Speaker 1: Elli's no alcoholic proposes, just bake champagne, low sodium food,
Speaker 1: just very you know, like carrots, you know, narrow. Yeah,
Speaker 1: exactly right. I drank so much apple juice when I
Speaker 1: as a kid, and like now, when I taste apple juice,
Speaker 1: it's it's like fucking maple syrup. That is like the thickest,
Speaker 1: sweetest ship. Yeah, it truly is not healthy. Yeah, for
Speaker 1: that much sugar to be in a child body. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But for whatever reason, that was like the thing, like
Speaker 1: my mom thought, because you know, my mom only like
Speaker 1: I think from her perspective, I was a Japanese immigrants,
Speaker 1: like sodas are bad. Yeah, so you're not drinking soda,
Speaker 1: but this glass bottle that is all sugar. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it just been downloads because I would like, at a
Speaker 1: certain point I really could not get off Martin Elli's
Speaker 1: apple juice. Yeah, because I was just it's a simpable drink.
Speaker 1: And then I then I got like as I got older,
Speaker 1: I would drink the whole apple shaped bottle and then
Speaker 1: my mom would get mad at me. And then this
Speaker 1: is when you know, she was trying to change me,
Speaker 1: but sugar fucking already had me. Yeah. No, are like
Speaker 1: I feel like our whole generation was just like juice
Speaker 1: was a health food and you know that's that's just
Speaker 1: straight up. Yeah. Remember that girl, Alex mac Yep, it
Speaker 1: was on the news news. Yeah, totally get that. Because
Speaker 1: I'm your age, What is something from your search history
Speaker 1: that's revealing about who you? Oh? Yeah, so this this
Speaker 1: needs a little bit of set up. I'll ask you, guys,
Speaker 1: how familiar are you with Sonic the Hedgehog fan art?
Speaker 1: Oh fan art? Yeah, like the fan art community around
Speaker 1: the video game character Sonic the Hedgehog. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: familiar enough with the franchise word when I've encountered fan art,
Speaker 1: it kind of makes sense. But I don't know if
Speaker 1: I could call out specific pieces of fan or maybe
Speaker 1: I could if I saw it, because I don't know.
Speaker 1: We see I see so much Internet all the time
Speaker 1: that yeah, I'd say fifty percent chance I know what
Speaker 1: we're talking about. Okay, Yeah, I mean I would say
Speaker 1: that there's a collector, but go ahead, averaged on Sonic
Speaker 1: fan art, you have a lot of n F T
Speaker 1: s um so okay, So, yes, Sonic the Hedgehog fan art.
Speaker 1: It has a robust community and and you know, like
Speaker 1: there's the typical kind of like fan art genres that
Speaker 1: you might expect, you know, like uh, you know Sonic
Speaker 1: as Avatar, the Last Airbender and you know, and but
Speaker 1: then of course you get into the you get into
Speaker 1: the erotic Sonic with a you know, huge Veny Crank
Speaker 1: giving it to Luigi things like yeah, so you know
Speaker 1: what what you would expect, but I'm intrigued, so and
Speaker 1: the but the genres get even more specific. There is
Speaker 1: a a robust and thriving community of Christian Sonic fan
Speaker 1: art people. So it's like Sonic weeping at the foot
Speaker 1: of the cross. Yep uh, you know, Sonic reading Bible verses,
Speaker 1: but they'll awkwardly insert other Sonic the Sonic characters, so
Speaker 1: it'll be like, no one comes to the father but
Speaker 1: through me knuckles. So so that exists, right. And the
Speaker 1: one I found out about this week was there is
Speaker 1: Sonic on his deathbed fan art. So it's like Sonic
Speaker 1: in the hospital on on life support and then like
Speaker 1: tails weeping at his bedside and there, and it's not
Speaker 1: just one person did this. Many people have done this,
Speaker 1: and it's all it's most of it's done in MS
Speaker 1: paint and it's like, I don't know where it comes from.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, what about this looks to people? When
Speaker 1: that's so great? So I have I have now googled
Speaker 1: Sonic Sonic fan art deathbed Maria looks so sad and
Speaker 1: the top result for a Sonics deathbed. Yeah, and you
Speaker 1: think he'd be like like, you think he'd be kicking
Speaker 1: the plug out of his life support machine. You would think,
Speaker 1: so he's Nintendo all day. Absolutely. This guy rassed me
Speaker 1: in commercials in the nineties. He beat me in the Olympics.
Speaker 1: But it's you know, when it feels like the Easy
Speaker 1: dr Dre thing when when Easy was on his deathbed,
Speaker 1: Dre came through and was like, look, man, like, let's
Speaker 1: put all that ship behind us. I feel like Mario
Speaker 1: is Dre in this in this situation. He's like, we're
Speaker 1: you know, we we had our differences, but we are
Speaker 1: the same deep down. And I seeing you dying here
Speaker 1: is is a little too close for home. It's it's
Speaker 1: making me think about my own mortality. And also Luigi
Speaker 1: clearly injected you with whatever's killing you feel bad right
Speaker 1: your feeling? What is something you think is overrated? Jordan
Speaker 1: about once a year, I I forget that I hate
Speaker 1: Starbucks blended drinks and I get a Starbucks blended drink
Speaker 1: because it's time for a treaty, you know, and I
Speaker 1: and I get it because you know, the the it
Speaker 1: looks good on the menu. Yeah, really good photography for
Speaker 1: the very good photography. Yeah, jeez. If you've ever seen
Speaker 1: one of those Starbucks breakfast sandwiches in person versus the menu,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, you know the suvied egg bites, and you're like,
Speaker 1: oh wow, and you're like, are these pencil erasers that
Speaker 1: are just greasy tastes good. Yeah, yeah, that's what I
Speaker 1: was gonna say the same thing about the breakfast sandwich
Speaker 1: is the sausage cheddar egg breakfast sandwich looks like shit.
Speaker 1: It looks like and even like parts of it are
Speaker 1: hard that shouldn't be hard, and yet to fuck, I've
Speaker 1: never had one that I didn't enjoy, like of the sandwich.
Speaker 1: For some reason, they just they have I think, whatever
Speaker 1: chemicals they could, because if you agree to the if
Speaker 1: you're getting a Starbucks breakfast sandwich, it's because you're so
Speaker 1: out your mind hungry. That's why. It's because I'm never
Speaker 1: checking for Starbucks. I'm doing that because I'm like, fuck,
Speaker 1: what is something that resembles breakfast airport? And I'm mad,
Speaker 1: I need something taste here. When you're running a marathon,
Speaker 1: that's like the equipment, like the brand, the trick my brain.
Speaker 1: So what's your what's the what? How? What's your experience
Speaker 1: like with the blended drinks? Like in your mind, what's
Speaker 1: it gonna be? And it always ends up being in it.
Speaker 1: It's like it sounds like me with cotton or candy corn. Yeah, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I mean that's a great That's a great analogy, that
Speaker 1: thing that like one one bite or one sip of
Speaker 1: it is a lot of fun, and then the fifth
Speaker 1: bite you're like fuck this. Yeah, I just like I
Speaker 1: get it and I'm like, hey, this will be like
Speaker 1: you know, this will be this will be tasty, this
Speaker 1: will give me a little pep, and I every time
Speaker 1: I have it, I'm like, this is this is I see,
Speaker 1: this is chunky in a way that I don't like.
Speaker 1: And I just wish it was a Carl's Junior milkshake
Speaker 1: for the colors, you know, like right, it's it's ice.
Speaker 1: It's like ice crystals at the core with like the
Speaker 1: coffee milky stuff around it. So yeah, it just makes
Speaker 1: you wish it was a milkshake because like a slushy,
Speaker 1: a slurpee, I can deal with the fact that like
Speaker 1: the bald gets thrown off as I'm drinking it and
Speaker 1: it's just ice left behind. But when it's a coffee drink,
Speaker 1: it's it's like that that balance is too funcked up.
Speaker 1: It's like now I just feel like I'm drinking like
Speaker 1: the weakest coffee that's ever been brewed and then left
Speaker 1: out for it, stuck up against a cool latta from Duncan.
Speaker 1: I think it's similar. I'm a you know, equally frustrating
Speaker 1: because I feel like, you know, everybody's kind of it
Speaker 1: ends up being a lot of frozen water. At the
Speaker 1: end of the day. It sounds like, well, we are
Speaker 1: looking at is trying to move away from the frat
Speaker 1: pay and towards milkshake territory with these drinks. You know,
Speaker 1: I am not a I have I have not a
Speaker 1: Duncan guy. I uh um. I grew up on the
Speaker 1: West Coast, so Duncan's are kind of a new thing,
Speaker 1: you know for me, in the in the landscape, and
Speaker 1: I moved recently and there's there's a close Duncan and
Speaker 1: I've just never liked it. I I can't find anything
Speaker 1: I like there. I kind of want to join the
Speaker 1: East Coast people and they're like enthusiasm for Duncan because
Speaker 1: I think it's very sincere. I think it's very adorable,
Speaker 1: and I want to, like, I don't know, I want
Speaker 1: to share that because I do love donuts, but every
Speaker 1: time I've gone to Duncan, it sucks, and I don't
Speaker 1: I don't want it to. I wanted to. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what Jack put me onto when we were I'm like
Speaker 1: all sour cream cake donuts. Yeah, I feel like it's
Speaker 1: pretty hard to funk up if you're have you only
Speaker 1: been to Duncan on the West Coast And I'm not
Speaker 1: a Duncan apologist by any means, but no, no no, no,
Speaker 1: And yeah, I think I I've had it out here
Speaker 1: a couple of times, and then I had I had
Speaker 1: it a couple of times on the East coasts like
Speaker 1: road trip airport, like a road trip airport type stop. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've heard people who are Duncan defenders in the marketing
Speaker 1: meetings we have with the Duncan people tell me that
Speaker 1: you're supposed to that. Like they're like, well, it's different
Speaker 1: on the West Coast. And I think it's also like
Speaker 1: franchise e and so like you can hit a really
Speaker 1: bad one, you know. Yeah, it's just oh yeah, I said,
Speaker 1: we gotta ask Jamie Loftus. I'm sure she can rank
Speaker 1: our West Coast Duncan. She's more in it for like
Speaker 1: the Duncan swag then, but I guess she she also
Speaker 1: likes that's not shade. I just feel like I don't
Speaker 1: I don't want people, Uh all right, Sorry, it's to doubt.
Speaker 1: You're I don't know, you're like a bit of light
Speaker 1: ribbing podcaster at a podcaster. I think we can handle
Speaker 1: it the internet, can't we? What's something you think is overridged?
Speaker 1: There's a lot of things I think overrated, uhlive quality,
Speaker 1: but camping, Okay, I think camping is overrated. Are you
Speaker 1: a camper at all? Or you just my wife? Is
Speaker 1: I just? I mean, principally speaking, I'm like, why would
Speaker 1: I leave a perfectly good inside to construct a subpar outside? Right?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? And I and did it?
Speaker 1: Grief for which you enjoy camping is the level for
Speaker 1: which my subpar inside I constructed becomes like the inside
Speaker 1: I just left. So I'm you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, I'm okay, I'm this is a really
Speaker 1: subcomfortable sleeping bag. It's just like a bed. Well then
Speaker 1: what then? Why don't I just stay in the bed?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: oh man, this this this tent is so warm. It's
Speaker 1: like walls. Okay, why would I leave walls to go
Speaker 1: to like walls? You know what I'm saying. I gotta
Speaker 1: fire pit outside in my backyard. I could cook over
Speaker 1: open fire, that's fine, and then go sleep in a
Speaker 1: temperature controlled place. I just there's bears, like there's mosquitoes.
Speaker 1: I gotta spray myself down with chemicals so I don't
Speaker 1: get bit or I could just stay inside. I don't
Speaker 1: understand why everybody is so in love. We figured the
Speaker 1: Neanderthals figured out that it is better to be inside. Right,
Speaker 1: So I'm just like, you should is overrated, Like you're
Speaker 1: spending so much money to make what you already got. Right,
Speaker 1: Does it have anything to do with being growing up
Speaker 1: in the city being I think it has a lot
Speaker 1: to do with that, because I'm I feel the same,
Speaker 1: like I like going. It's like fun for like the
Speaker 1: first time, Like I'm still kaying that was cool. But
Speaker 1: I'm like, but for real, like, no, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of ship I need days. Yeah, I think I'll go
Speaker 1: out for like a day exactly. I'm like, the outside
Speaker 1: is beautiful, don't get me wrong, Like you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Nature is amazing, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, I gotta sleep out here, Like that's ridiculous,
Speaker 1: you know. So yeah, like we go to like are
Speaker 1: those staycases. I go to Joshua Tree, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, We're gonna have a great time out there.
Speaker 1: And then go to a nice airbnb there you go inside, yeah, inside, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's the It's it's funny just growing up
Speaker 1: in the city too. Like I loved whenever I could go,
Speaker 1: like anytime there was a field trip to nature, I
Speaker 1: was like, Oh, this is fucking dope, Like it's so
Speaker 1: different than just the fucking valley and ship. But then
Speaker 1: after a while, like I think, as you kind of
Speaker 1: get set into your ways, I got a little bit
Speaker 1: harder for me. But you know all that to say,
Speaker 1: I'd imagine maybe I could endure it, like if I
Speaker 1: go to one of those places like you know, fucking
Speaker 1: uh the beginning of big little lies. Yeah yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean you know, like that kind of ship like Carmel. Yeah,
Speaker 1: now that you say it, I think there might be
Speaker 1: some like some like psychological trauma from childhood, from feeling
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying, Like my dad, My
Speaker 1: father was a black panther, but he was like city
Speaker 1: boy ladies man, Like I don't not change the oil.
Speaker 1: I didn't know how to like I want to work
Speaker 1: on cars, like I don't know how to do none
Speaker 1: of this ship. So like I feel like since my
Speaker 1: father wasn't like these other dads who had tints and
Speaker 1: stuff like that, like you you you feel like you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like you you you less of
Speaker 1: a boy than the rest of the other boys. The
Speaker 1: same way I came from tintless home as well. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: tintless home. I was like, we got money for that,
Speaker 1: Like what you want to buy a tent? Was to
Speaker 1: sit in the garage, like hey, we're gonna do with this?
Speaker 1: So so yeah, so I feel like I remember, yo,
Speaker 1: I remember the first time I went fishing. There was
Speaker 1: his family down the street, you know, just manly men,
Speaker 1: had their boat, had their RV, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And they went so they went out to uh a man,
Speaker 1: where was that? I want to say? It was like
Speaker 1: Angela's Crest, so like in the up in like locker center.
Speaker 1: They went up there to like to go fishing. So
Speaker 1: I got to go with him and three boys and
Speaker 1: I mean like boy scouts, right, So we went and
Speaker 1: I remember they were fighting over who gets to throw
Speaker 1: the throw the anchor down so they were like, no, no, no, no, no, Jay,
Speaker 1: since our guests, we're gonna let him do it. So
Speaker 1: I threw the anchor down, and as it's going down,
Speaker 1: I realized I ain't tie it to the boat. So yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: like I'm pl you know, so I don't say nothing,
Speaker 1: but they are they My my back is to them,
Speaker 1: so they can't see that's happening. And then as the
Speaker 1: boats drifting, they're like, what happened? And I remember now
Speaker 1: as a father, like how well these boys dads handled this?
Speaker 1: Like they He was just like, Jason, did you tie
Speaker 1: you know? I was like, no, you don't. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: he was, dude, tell me, I know, right, that's what
Speaker 1: I should have said. But yeah, I wish I had.
Speaker 1: I wish I had the balls to do that. But
Speaker 1: now he was like, and the boys are like all
Speaker 1: biting their tongue because they was like, we told you
Speaker 1: not to let him, right, So so they're like, it's
Speaker 1: ok it's boys, it's okay, we'll just go get another.
Speaker 1: We'll have to pay for this, and we'll just go
Speaker 1: get another and come out. So I cost them like
Speaker 1: fifty bucks in a couple of hours, you know. But
Speaker 1: like after that I was like, I'm never getting on
Speaker 1: another damn buck yet. But we'll let's we'll create the
Speaker 1: space to allow that younger Jason. Hell, because it was
Speaker 1: the fault. You know, they didn't train you, and then
Speaker 1: they tail me. You know, I'm saying they thought they
Speaker 1: were doing something good. You know, we don't take the
Speaker 1: take the kid, take the poor kid out fishing. The
Speaker 1: only time we ever camped when I was a kid
Speaker 1: with my family was when they were painting the inside
Speaker 1: of our house and we shouldn't sleep in our room,
Speaker 1: and so they set up a tent. We borrowed a
Speaker 1: tent from the neighbors and put it in our backyard.
Speaker 1: And that was That was fucking dope. That was That
Speaker 1: was fun. Thing you can do that sounds fun. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was fun. And then I went in because I
Speaker 1: was like, this is uncomfortable. So I slept on the couch.
Speaker 1: The same thing with me and the first time I
Speaker 1: camped in my backyard, and my dad was like, because
Speaker 1: he was like, you really want to do this, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't know. We just watched that movie Congo where
Speaker 1: they just threw those pop tents out. They just do
Speaker 1: the out and it was a fully made tent, and
Speaker 1: I was like, we gotta get on that way. So
Speaker 1: she was dope. One of one of the our neighbors
Speaker 1: had one, and so that we borrowed it the tiniest
Speaker 1: by the way, bye bye fucking I remember ten, like
Speaker 1: by ten o'clock we got in there, like at seven.
Speaker 1: I was like, I want to go inside, and he's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was gonna. I was actually gonna wait for you
Speaker 1: to fall asleep, and I was just drag your ass.
Speaker 1: Video games. I love the Congo made you want to
Speaker 1: go camping because Jaws made me want to go swim
Speaker 1: in the ocean and get eaten by shark, like when
Speaker 1: I was like, dub, yeah, what is What's something you
Speaker 1: think is underrated? Plants? I love plants, man, I think plants.
Speaker 1: I have so many, so many plants, and I want more.
Speaker 1: And there's something I think on this topic. It's there's
Speaker 1: something really powerful about having to wait for something, you know,
Speaker 1: especially on Twitter, where everything is about the immediate, like
Speaker 1: you're pulling down and refreshing like a freaking slot machine
Speaker 1: and everything just you get everything right away. So I
Speaker 1: think there's something really powerful and slowly watering a plant,
Speaker 1: taking care of it, checking, checking the soil, making sure
Speaker 1: it's not dry, and waiting for a month for that
Speaker 1: first sprout, and then propagating, taking the leaves and soaking
Speaker 1: them in water so that they can sprout new roots.
Speaker 1: There's like something incredibly meditative about waiting, you know. So
Speaker 1: I think Plants Team Bible. It was because of COVID man.
Speaker 1: Because COVID I had to stay home like everybody else,
Speaker 1: and it drove me crazy, and I felt like I
Speaker 1: needed something to pull me away from the screens because
Speaker 1: I was going from tiny screen to medium screen to
Speaker 1: big screen to medium screening too small screen just so
Speaker 1: I needed to I needed like an activity in my
Speaker 1: in my city environment where there's really not a lot
Speaker 1: of space. So I needed something to do. And I
Speaker 1: joined like this plant club where they gave you a
Speaker 1: bunch of free plants, and that like really, it hit me, man,
Speaker 1: it was. It hit me right in like three seconds.
Speaker 1: I sat down. I was just staring at it like
Speaker 1: a little seed and waiting for it to pop out,
Speaker 1: and I was like, this is dope, yeah right, this
Speaker 1: all day staring at dirt. Yeah, I got notes on
Speaker 1: this plant. It's taken away too long. We need a
Speaker 1: little bit more action up front, maybe just a little tease.
Speaker 1: Just give me a little bit up front on this plane, right,
Speaker 1: I know, where's the smoke machine? I don't like this one,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I was. We we propagate in my crib
Speaker 1: because it's the second Like my mom she loves succulents
Speaker 1: and stuff, and so when she first put us on too,
Speaker 1: like not just love it off and get that thing going,
Speaker 1: and then you can keep exponentially multiplying. And now we're
Speaker 1: like kind of addicted to it. Like we got so
Speaker 1: many clippings soaking in water that like at a certain point,
Speaker 1: I'm like, what do we gonna do with all these?
Speaker 1: But it is nice to like even the process. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's some meditative aspect to it because there is feedback,
Speaker 1: Like it's it's not a process devoid of feedback, but
Speaker 1: it takes time. And I think being able to sit
Speaker 1: within those like intervals without the feedback is you know
Speaker 1: where the zen comes in, Dude, I put it. I
Speaker 1: put a couple of leaves in some some cups, some
Speaker 1: glass cups so I can wash the roots. And wife
Speaker 1: it was like her favorite cups, so she took it
Speaker 1: and put it in like this plastic cup that you
Speaker 1: can't see through, and I flipped out. I was like,
Speaker 1: what are you doing? I need to see the routes.
Speaker 1: I need to see the roots. I have to see
Speaker 1: what's going on. I need the feedback. So I'm still addicted,
Speaker 1: but uh yeah, I'm working on it. The best is
Speaker 1: when you see a leave coming out and you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: this motherfucker about to unfurrow on them. Yeah, go on.
Speaker 1: Then I just got a shot of dopamine when you
Speaker 1: said that. Yeah, it's funny because yeah, my partner should
Speaker 1: be like here, it's gonna happen either today or tomorrow.
Speaker 1: You can see his bust and am trying to bust open.
Speaker 1: Come on, now, you do your thing. That was the
Speaker 1: horniest description of plant life. I'm not gonna lie. We
Speaker 1: have a bird. I'm that is it is a little
Speaker 1: erotic because we had a bird of Paradise where the
Speaker 1: you know, like when the flowers come out, they undulate
Speaker 1: with all this fucking energy, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: And you're like, oh, this thing because it has to
Speaker 1: you know, getting gross loss of this is, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. I'm making my next court appearance undulate three.
Speaker 1: What was that song? By that like kind of electronic Oh, tessellate,
Speaker 1: that's what it was, not undulate. But I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, that was a weird way to describe sex.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I really like the point about time, like
Speaker 1: mixing up the things you're interacting with, the living things
Speaker 1: you're interacting with them, like the timeline they're on like that,
Speaker 1: they that that just like slows you down a little bit.
Speaker 1: Like and if you have a relationship with something that
Speaker 1: moves at the pace of like days as opposed to
Speaker 1: you know, seconds, that's cool. That's cool. I hadn't really
Speaker 1: thought about it that way. Did you get some plants? Man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I should. Uh, Unfortunately, we've we've been saying that for
Speaker 1: a long time. Amen. You know, yeah, well there's the
Speaker 1: I would saying, hey, let me grow weed in your garage.
Speaker 1: You're not using it, Benny keeps saying no. But you know, whatever,
Speaker 1: the point remains. You know, you should get you should
Speaker 1: get into plants. The electric companies starting to pay attention Miles.
Speaker 1: I said, I'll bring Jenny's and I got the carbon
Speaker 1: filter so your neighbors won't even know it smells, and
Speaker 1: I'll insulate the roof of your garage so if the
Speaker 1: cops come through looking for the heat, you know, markeeps
Speaker 1: knocking down the yeah, yeah, what do you do? All right,
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break. We'll be right back, and
Speaker 1: we're back. And so there's there's a trend happening on Tender.
Speaker 1: So I've obviously noticed it, but I think a couple
Speaker 1: of other people have noticed as well that ever since
Speaker 1: the news, ever since the news of Bill and Melinda
Speaker 1: Gates breaking up, there there's been a lot of Bill
Speaker 1: Gates accounts popping up. And apparently it's not just because
Speaker 1: Bill Gates is like super horny. It's yeah, yeah, scammers.
Speaker 1: I think everywhere. It's just like they're them breaking up
Speaker 1: has just created all kinds of Internet jokery, of all
Speaker 1: kinds of of shenanigans. So Tender they've they were asked,
Speaker 1: you know, like, what's going on with this? Do you
Speaker 1: think like there's a lot of people trying to impersonate
Speaker 1: Bill Gates? They said, like, we don't have all the
Speaker 1: data specifically as it relates to Bill Gates fake accounts,
Speaker 1: but they basically said, but trust us when we say this,
Speaker 1: you will not be able to successfully impersonate Bill Gates
Speaker 1: for too long because there's like apparently a few steps
Speaker 1: that they have to say, so if you want to
Speaker 1: verify your profile, at first you gotta scan your face
Speaker 1: with like facial recognition software so it will match the pictures.
Speaker 1: There's like, okay, so good luck with that. And then
Speaker 1: they're also reviewed and scanned for like any odd at
Speaker 1: ease before going live apparently, and they said if someone
Speaker 1: did want to like flag it, then they could look
Speaker 1: and further verify. But they're saying it's while some people
Speaker 1: may get through it, like by being clever about stuff, overall,
Speaker 1: more than likely if someone does get to you saying
Speaker 1: there Bill Gates, it probably won't be. But also they're
Speaker 1: saying you might not even encounter Bill Gates. They're trying
Speaker 1: to clean up tender. Okay, we get it. Why why
Speaker 1: are people even doing that? That's my that's my major.
Speaker 1: If it's like who are you making laugh with that?
Speaker 1: Who are you fooling? Like? It's too much. There's too
Speaker 1: much emphasis put on onjust being able to make someone
Speaker 1: look like an ass as a victory, like if you're
Speaker 1: not saying anything or doing something and particularly funny, this
Speaker 1: all feels like just whack, like starting a fire in
Speaker 1: a parking lot. Yeah, ship, you know what I mean
Speaker 1: where it's like, yeah, it's like the first thought of
Speaker 1: a joke, which is what if we would if Bill
Speaker 1: Gates on Tender and we made that and it ends
Speaker 1: there and it's not funny after. It's like we impersonated
Speaker 1: a divorced man trying to get laid to other people.
Speaker 1: I could, right, And then you're like you're like, oh, dude,
Speaker 1: I met with my mom. It's like, shit, I didn't.
Speaker 1: The last night I had to dress up as Bill
Speaker 1: Gates and to it, I feel so stupid. Is there
Speaker 1: something like cultural weird urge to impersonate Bill Gates? Because
Speaker 1: there was also that Bill Gates impersonator on Nathan for
Speaker 1: You who was like it didn't look like Bill Gates
Speaker 1: at all, but was like still like, yeah, I'm a real,
Speaker 1: real Gates. Yeah who I ran into at the supermarket
Speaker 1: and I made him take a picture with me when
Speaker 1: I saw him, and he was wearing his like Arkansas
Speaker 1: raised because he's a big Razorbacks fan if you remember
Speaker 1: the Natan Free episode. But yeah, I don't know what
Speaker 1: the what they would do even if you got that far.
Speaker 1: I think it's just like much in the same way
Speaker 1: that people were just doing like screenshots of like d
Speaker 1: ms from Bill Gates trying to pretend he was like
Speaker 1: hollering at people. But it's just an internet joke that
Speaker 1: ends the second it becomes real. But Bill Gates is
Speaker 1: not on Tinder. Yeah. First of all, we know we
Speaker 1: know an exclusive dating app exists called Rya. That means
Speaker 1: that there's ten we don't know about. Right, there are
Speaker 1: something that Bill Gates. Bill Gates just might have more
Speaker 1: opportunities than the rest of the world, is my guest,
Speaker 1: And I think that has something to do with why
Speaker 1: his wife wanted to get divorced, because it seems like
Speaker 1: you're saying him piling around with Jeffrey Epstein, uh in
Speaker 1: terms of being like you know, these people don't move
Speaker 1: nor like normal people. Uh. And you see, oh right,
Speaker 1: they buy whole islands where they have their trafficking people
Speaker 1: and they go on their private jets there. So Melinda
Speaker 1: Gates has had an issue with Jeffrey Epstein and Bill
Speaker 1: Gates hanging out apparently the ends why because you're always
Speaker 1: drinking and partying. No, because they're legendary pedophile Because I
Speaker 1: told you this guy's a sex krim and he just
Speaker 1: made a plea deal and somehow got off and you're
Speaker 1: still hanging out with him, so she said in since
Speaker 1: two thousand third mean, she has been warning Bill Gates
Speaker 1: about hanging around Jeffrey Epstein. She's like that story came
Speaker 1: out and she's like, dude, stay away. What are you
Speaker 1: doing this guy? This is like so fucking alarming. And
Speaker 1: then a former manager of the Gates Foundation then said
Speaker 1: that the relationships between the two men and other like
Speaker 1: employees of the foundation like started growing even after Melinda
Speaker 1: was like very unequivocal about being like stay away. And
Speaker 1: then on top of that, apparently the divorce start. The
Speaker 1: divorce sort of exploratory conversations began in twenty nineteen, around
Speaker 1: the time this New York Times piece came out that
Speaker 1: was like outlining the successful people who Epstein was kicking
Speaker 1: it with, etcetera. And it also included this very specific
Speaker 1: line from that article, which maybe I don't know if
Speaker 1: it has something to do with her calling her lawyers up,
Speaker 1: but few compared in prestige and power to the then
Speaker 1: world's second richest person person a brilliant and intensely private luminary,
Speaker 1: Bill Gates, and Unlike many others, Mr Gates started the
Speaker 1: relationship after Mr Epstein was convicted of sex crimes. Lawyers
Speaker 1: again that all of it is just, you know, anecdotal,
Speaker 1: So who knows if that's exactly what happened, But it
Speaker 1: seems like if you were getting warnings in and you
Speaker 1: still didn't heed them. Yeah, you gotta change for your partner,
Speaker 1: especially if the change they're asking is please stop hanging
Speaker 1: out with pedophiles, Like honestly, they're talking about the least
Speaker 1: you could do for a partner, is that? Also, while
Speaker 1: we're just psychoanalyzing a billionaires marriage from hip fire psychiatry
Speaker 1: from the three of Us, Uh, I gotta say, wasn't
Speaker 1: there something interesting? Or to me? It kind of made
Speaker 1: Bill Gates even cool Bill and Melinda even cooler that
Speaker 1: he had carved out in their marriage. He had carved
Speaker 1: out one week. Yeah, he had like a hall pass
Speaker 1: weekend to go to his beach house with his ex.
Speaker 1: With his ex. That's what's so funny. I know I
Speaker 1: would be put in the cold anyone, anybody, Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: a weird legal thrupple you're in then, yes, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like it's vividly this other person. But
Speaker 1: that's that's some twenty morey one century marriage ship though,
Speaker 1: which is like you know, people know what they want,
Speaker 1: ask for it and get it. And and Melinda's even like, dude,
Speaker 1: I've been letting you fuck a weekend. Now you want
Speaker 1: to go on a trip to an island with a
Speaker 1: temple with the fucking Malcolm Gladwell, Get the funk up, right.
Speaker 1: I do wonder if she was waiting to like spring
Speaker 1: this for when he had like a pr funk up
Speaker 1: like he did with the uh say, like coming out
Speaker 1: anti lifting the patents on the vaccine, Like if she
Speaker 1: was just like, all right, I know I want to
Speaker 1: get rid of this fucking asshole, but like I need
Speaker 1: the like, right, I need just like a little foothold
Speaker 1: so I can build up the momentum of oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember this ship where he like car tout fucking
Speaker 1: thing with specifically his ex, or remember like this weird
Speaker 1: eyes wide shut like sex thing that he was involved with,
Speaker 1: or right, it's kind of like the like it's weird
Speaker 1: when you're a celebrity in such a high powered relationship,
Speaker 1: like you have to think of the pr around divorcing.
Speaker 1: We're like, okay, he's gonna funk up and then I'm
Speaker 1: gonna strike. Whereas like when you're a normal person, you're like,
Speaker 1: all right, if this fool gets super drunk again at
Speaker 1: this party, we're breaking up, right, that's like the normal
Speaker 1: person version. But then you got to line up as friends.
Speaker 1: So if he doesn't release those patents, I will divorce.
Speaker 1: Let's feel like it doesn't feel a little like the
Speaker 1: straw that broke the camel's bag to where it's a
Speaker 1: little bit like, look, I let you do this fucking thing.
Speaker 1: I let you fucking the Epstein ship has been bothering me,
Speaker 1: and now you are like, now we're bad guys because
Speaker 1: you won't fucking send vaccine components to India. Get the
Speaker 1: funk outta here, Bill, How much more money do we need?
Speaker 1: What do you need a third beach house to funk
Speaker 1: your high school girlfriend? Hence the Epstein thing. You know,
Speaker 1: Microsoft was a terrible nickname I was given by my
Speaker 1: fellow classmates. I even fucking hate the fact that like
Speaker 1: the New York has like brilliant luminary when describing him,
Speaker 1: and the fact that this is this is like a
Speaker 1: royal divorce, is like front page news everywhere it's like
Speaker 1: depend on their fun. It's so weird. No, just speak directly, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're so obsessed with rich people too, that it's like
Speaker 1: there's no need for Bill Gates to be a celebrity,
Speaker 1: Like there's no need for us to talk about him,
Speaker 1: but we're obsessed and can you do We think partially
Speaker 1: is Melinda sees what happens to Bezos is ex where yeah,
Speaker 1: she's like, let's get a divorce and he's like okay,
Speaker 1: and she's like distance herself from a guy who's rapidly
Speaker 1: becoming even more of a villain, and she gets to
Speaker 1: go from married to the richest person to being like
Speaker 1: the third richest person in the world just by saying
Speaker 1: fun this yeah, and truly being like using philanthropy to
Speaker 1: like really differentiate yourself. Because I feel like Mackenzie Bezos
Speaker 1: has been doing a lot of like weird surprise like
Speaker 1: money people. She's been doing some crazy aggressive ship that
Speaker 1: no one seemed like. She's like picking a small thing
Speaker 1: and overloading it with like a billion dollars or something
Speaker 1: like hell, yeah, let's dry really wanka that ship. Yes,
Speaker 1: Bezos just doing He's like, this is what you're doing
Speaker 1: with the hundred billion. You guys, you think it's weird
Speaker 1: that it hasn't been picked up more like shouldn't that be?
Speaker 1: I do just wonder if that if that's like a
Speaker 1: again like similar post exactly, Like he's a fucking he
Speaker 1: runs everything like these guys run everything. So of course
Speaker 1: it's like a what company does every every journalism website
Speaker 1: read their servers from right? Most likely every single one
Speaker 1: of them is appen If this podcast cuts out right now,
Speaker 1: you know what's yeah, I'm like, yeah, out of this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: somebody needs to also do They won't do it, but
Speaker 1: some non mainstream journalists needs to do the app equivalent
Speaker 1: of ese wide shut like whatever that is. That's they're like,
Speaker 1: I'm sure a hacker has that somewhere, very well well
Speaker 1: paid hacker. Let's talk about anti maskers. They now are
Speaker 1: afraid of people who have been vaccinated because anti maskers
Speaker 1: and anti vaxers are basically a circle no longer than diagram.
Speaker 1: But now they are like there's some conflict there because
Speaker 1: now the anti maskers want a mask to stick keep
Speaker 1: free of the vaxer's germs. I guess because they're they're
Speaker 1: so caught up on this modified RNA. There their fundamental
Speaker 1: miss understandings of vaccines, and even the technology of this
Speaker 1: specific one has sent them into this other world in
Speaker 1: which they are certain. They're like, you know, this is
Speaker 1: just you make you infertil and things like that. So
Speaker 1: right now they're saying, quote, vaccinated will shed certain proteins
Speaker 1: onto the unvaccinated, who will then suffer adverse effects as well,
Speaker 1: which is the shedding will cause irregular menstruation, infertility, and miscarriages.
Speaker 1: And again this was all part of like motivating some
Speaker 1: people to not get it. And now influencers in the
Speaker 1: anti vaccine community are awarding their followers to social distance, okay,
Speaker 1: and on a live stream, one of these uh Inflino
Speaker 1: whatever conspiracy theorists was saying telling them employing their viewers,
Speaker 1: say to stay away from somebody who's had these shots forever,
Speaker 1: because we don't know how long they can be a
Speaker 1: threat to us. Another anti vaxxer conspiracy theorists said, he's
Speaker 1: a New York pediatrician and conspira theories, because you also
Speaker 1: want your pediatrician to be a conspiracy theory. I think
Speaker 1: everyone knows that. He was saying that vaccine people should
Speaker 1: quote have a badge on their arms that say I've
Speaker 1: been vaccinated even though it's not a vaccine, so that
Speaker 1: we know to avoid them on the street, to not
Speaker 1: go near them anywhere in society. And I'm like, this
Speaker 1: is kind of cool. Yeah, let's let them let them
Speaker 1: away from us, Like the funk up. They're doing the
Speaker 1: thing that we like felt like we shouldn't be doing technically,
Speaker 1: is like making them wear something to like avoid them
Speaker 1: because they could still have COVID nineteen like, so they're
Speaker 1: just doing that that work for us. Yeah, the pretzel,
Speaker 1: like the brain pretzel, you gotta get into to make
Speaker 1: that work, rather than something as simple as a viruses
Speaker 1: come out your nose and mouth, so you should cover
Speaker 1: your nose and mouth. That's been real simple to me.
Speaker 1: But all it is riggamoole you gotta do to get
Speaker 1: to like my my skin cells are gonna shed and
Speaker 1: the proteins will so much work, bro, Like got dog,
Speaker 1: that's so much work. Yeah. But what's interesting, there's like
Speaker 1: a new thing I was reading from some M I. T.
Speaker 1: Research researchers who are sort of infiltrating these groups just
Speaker 1: to kind of study them like empirically, and they're saying
Speaker 1: like their respect for like empiricism is really something like
Speaker 1: they really really try and use the same methodology of
Speaker 1: accepted science to sort of even navigate like their own
Speaker 1: conspiracy theories. So it's this really weird interest in science,
Speaker 1: but it's coming from the worst angle and the worst
Speaker 1: set of ideas to start off with. But the whole
Speaker 1: thing with this though, too, This this sort of idea
Speaker 1: of of shedding and the fear of that has gotten
Speaker 1: to the point where others of the time about how
Speaker 1: they should quarantine vaccinated family members. There was a school
Speaker 1: in Miami that was even prohibiting a like vaccinated teachers
Speaker 1: from interacting with students. The mask is still up in
Speaker 1: the air though, because apparently right now the shedding debate
Speaker 1: is like the new hot ticket item where they're using
Speaker 1: to you know, justify their fear or whatever. I just
Speaker 1: feel like, man, some people just need a culture war.
Speaker 1: You just gotta turn everything into a culture war. And
Speaker 1: it's it's it's exhausting, you know, And I just like
Speaker 1: this this new turn to me, Like I was finally
Speaker 1: like usually you just like what what what this one?
Speaker 1: I was like, Man, I'm tired. Man, Like, man, come on, y'all,
Speaker 1: come on, man, you know what I'm saying, Like, you know,
Speaker 1: anybody died from polio? Yeah? Me neither. You know why
Speaker 1: you know I'm saying, I don't know nobody with smallpox strvy,
Speaker 1: like you know anybody with Ricketts? Like no, I just like,
Speaker 1: why is it so hard? Man? Like? Why everything I'd
Speaker 1: be a war? Why everything I'd be a war? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's because I think on some level, you know, like
Speaker 1: it just plays into people's psychology year their own personal history,
Speaker 1: where like they've just become contrarian throughout their lives. And
Speaker 1: this because I look at even people who before who
Speaker 1: started veering in this direction and people my own family
Speaker 1: who before we're just like the trippy family member. You know,
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, you know, like this is my secret
Speaker 1: I eat, I have these herbs to stay here. Yeah
Speaker 1: yeah yeah yeah nineties and ship and now they're kind
Speaker 1: of on this like anything masks work, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh fuck, I mean it's like sort of like it's
Speaker 1: definitely like a personality trait because I would have never
Speaker 1: pegged them for that because they're very intelligent. But again,
Speaker 1: this is something we've discussed to like with cult members,
Speaker 1: like intelligence can kind of suck you up to because
Speaker 1: you can really can convince yourself that you're what you're saying. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: the the yeah, like the unraveling of like the baseline
Speaker 1: of reality that you've set up. If that unravels, it's
Speaker 1: like only chaos can be on the other side of this,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But like those us who've
Speaker 1: been through certain lived a little bit through metamorphosis that
Speaker 1: are like you, you can't be afraid of that cliff,
Speaker 1: you know, so once you jump over that cliff and
Speaker 1: you're like, Okay, it's fine. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: the world didn't blow up, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like I remember I you know, I came from like
Speaker 1: any other black presidentale. We went to church, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I like the first time I
Speaker 1: had like you know, pre marital sex, and God didn't
Speaker 1: rip the roof open and strike my naked body with lightning.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that You're just like I
Speaker 1: guess oh, oh, okay, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: it's like, all right, So now I get to decide,
Speaker 1: like what kind of man am I gonna be? You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, it's not not for fear of
Speaker 1: you know, immediate destruction. You feel me. So I just
Speaker 1: think like when that reality unravels, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And I honestly think like you said, like it had
Speaker 1: nothing to do it, They got nothing to do it intelligence.
Speaker 1: But like to me, it's like that fear of the unraveling,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like you have you ain't
Speaker 1: never looked into no abyss you know, and and we
Speaker 1: willing to walk into and you realize, yosi, bro, like
Speaker 1: you could go through the looking glass and it's fine.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You might jump off the
Speaker 1: cliff and realize you could fly. I can fly, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's gonna just come bringing you
Speaker 1: splat down on the ground. That part of that is
Speaker 1: the growth you experience, is going into the unknown, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, and being willing to be wrong, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like then, and I think that that
Speaker 1: like that's another thing. I feel like what happened in
Speaker 1: that world is like man, you just yo take the
Speaker 1: l like you like there's no problem being like you
Speaker 1: know what I used to think this about masks turns
Speaker 1: out you know what I'm saying, Like, it's cool to
Speaker 1: be wrong. I would be like I thought, look I was,
Speaker 1: I was fucked up on fucking loose change, like coming
Speaker 1: out of college, and you know, so then I was like,
Speaker 1: well maybe I can, like I can, I could like
Speaker 1: go some some weird expiracy theories and ship like that.
Speaker 1: But it definitely takes a moment too where you gotta
Speaker 1: be able to say, oh, right, everything that I believe
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be real. In fact, this is a
Speaker 1: very This is a process of like sorting through ideas
Speaker 1: and ideologies and figuring out like what is best for me,
Speaker 1: But there's just too much. There's too much information. It's
Speaker 1: the it's the I feel like. This is the combination
Speaker 1: of the fact that you know, there's no authoritative source
Speaker 1: that everybody agrees on. This is where you get your
Speaker 1: information from, So there's just everything is a source of information.
Speaker 1: And then that combined with the American psychology of being
Speaker 1: allergic to collect collectivism and needing something to differentiate yourself
Speaker 1: from other people, to make you feel special, to make
Speaker 1: you feel like you're like a tiny version of Harry Potter,
Speaker 1: where you're like the one who was always like who
Speaker 1: was chosen to know this hidden information Like America. I
Speaker 1: think America has become increasingly reliant on those sorts of
Speaker 1: things psychologically, as things like social like people stopped going
Speaker 1: to church, people stopped going to bowling leagues, people stopped
Speaker 1: getting to know their neighbors. Uh. And now it's like
Speaker 1: we need to not just believe that we are perfect
Speaker 1: like individuals who control our own destiny, but that we're
Speaker 1: like special, magical individuals who are more the most important
Speaker 1: in the world secretly revolves around them. It's kind of
Speaker 1: like that too, that mentality. I was talking to somebody
Speaker 1: over the weekend about how like when you're younger, your
Speaker 1: personality is more defined about with like what you're not
Speaker 1: fucking with, not necessarily what you're interested in. It's mostly
Speaker 1: defined about what you reject. And like that's a very
Speaker 1: beginning phase of identity formation. Is like I'm not fucking
Speaker 1: with it. Oh fucking that cartoon. No, that's for babies,
Speaker 1: you know what, mentality And that's the same thing, oh
Speaker 1: wearing masks. Uh, Like that's not that's not a way
Speaker 1: to navigate this. Uh this because then when you think
Speaker 1: about when you hit like middle school and you gotta
Speaker 1: find your like what I like to call your error,
Speaker 1: Like I'm a skater, I'm a rap fer rap. You
Speaker 1: gotta find your er. And then I'm going along with
Speaker 1: your example. Some people never like, oh I don't wrap,
Speaker 1: I'm with this, you know, if you don't never mature
Speaker 1: out of that, you know what I'm saying. Whereas like
Speaker 1: I left that in eighth grade, Like you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like these rules are not hard and fast,
Speaker 1: like I can like Nirvana, like what's what's wrong with me?
Speaker 1: Like in Nirvana? You know what I'm saying. But that
Speaker 1: that next thing, right, that next evolution of like forming
Speaker 1: your your your sense of self to where you're like,
Speaker 1: y'all these categories are made up. They don't have to
Speaker 1: be this way. And my importance as an individual is
Speaker 1: it's not a zero sum game, you know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying that, Like if I if I allow myself to
Speaker 1: be a part of the collective community, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, that that's somehow another takes away from my individualism. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's like you gotta like yeah, yeah, you're not you're not. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And then and then it's
Speaker 1: like what's crazy. It's like how you how you how
Speaker 1: you kid yourself with this idea of like you're saying,
Speaker 1: like I need my nose to be more special, Like
Speaker 1: I'm what America's earth special little guy. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And I am the special little guy in America? Right,
Speaker 1: I don't I think for myself. But yet you still
Speaker 1: are part of a herd, and that herd is called
Speaker 1: anti vax. You know what I'm saying. It's like you
Speaker 1: still join in the tribe. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You're still in a crew, you know, thrown in with
Speaker 1: like your own code the truth. Yeah, your own research.
Speaker 1: That's the thing they all say now, which just means
Speaker 1: like you have to like go to trustworthy sources of it.
Speaker 1: As a former as a former ninth grade teacher, I
Speaker 1: can tell you none of these foods know how to research.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I would have you would have all failed
Speaker 1: my class. Like this is not this ain't a research paper.
Speaker 1: That's a mean did you check this source? Because like
Speaker 1: uk this source? Did you did are you? Did you
Speaker 1: look for any dissenting voices? Do this over do this paper?
Speaker 1: But Arthur's balled up fish represents that anti plantation owners
Speaker 1: ready to knuckle up against the north Where that's what
Speaker 1: you got. All right, let's look, here's the timeline John Brown.
Speaker 1: Then you got the Arthur fist. Okay, then you got
Speaker 1: that SpongeBob meme where they're looking out the window and
Speaker 1: they're having fun. So seriously, so that's what it is.
Speaker 1: You're just trying to brainwash me, Like, Okay, yeah, I
Speaker 1: feel like people are you know, did you guys ever
Speaker 1: have friends who would stop liking a band once other
Speaker 1: people start liking you, stop liking a musician once other
Speaker 1: people started like that. I feel like that's how people
Speaker 1: are now with like news sources, Like that's just too
Speaker 1: that's too mainstream, too many people respect. It's it's like
Speaker 1: to the point where like fun with Alex Jones. That's
Speaker 1: like sometimes when you hear people like man only funk
Speaker 1: with this kind of music or whatever, and you're like, no,
Speaker 1: this person is kind of at the top of the game.
Speaker 1: You're like, nah, fuck that trash, And I'm like, that's
Speaker 1: not a really good comparison. Like I call it the
Speaker 1: Chance the Rapper effect, because it's like everybody liked him
Speaker 1: when he was the people's champ. He was touring the
Speaker 1: world with a mixtape. Then the guy actually succeeds, He
Speaker 1: lands a record deal, gets married, has some children. It's
Speaker 1: like I sold out, Like yeah, you mean it worked?
Speaker 1: Like yeah? Also like I'd hate to tell you about
Speaker 1: his family backstory too. If you you're doing this kind
Speaker 1: of myth building in your mind, right right, all right,
Speaker 1: let's take another quick break. We'll be right back. Do
Speaker 1: you guys give a ship about the logan Paul Floyd
Speaker 1: Mayweather fight at all? Of course I do. I lost
Speaker 1: hundreds of dollars of body and I've been going to
Speaker 1: boxing classes get ready for the Sweet Science, am my, right, fellas?
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I want to see Floyd Mayweather beat
Speaker 1: the fucking brakes off. I just want to see him
Speaker 1: getting humiliated so bad, Like I I don't know, I
Speaker 1: don't know if I'll even be able to watch it
Speaker 1: because I wanna see that happen so bad. But didn't
Speaker 1: he didn't Jake Paul like face Time or something recently
Speaker 1: with Donald Trump or someone like that over the weekend.
Speaker 1: I think he hollered him. They're straight up like they're
Speaker 1: you knowling coded, like where are He's the great white hype?
Speaker 1: Totally Great White hype about the fight Floyd Mayweather. That's
Speaker 1: that's how they're building it, like they're little tussle they
Speaker 1: had was fucking I don't know if that was real
Speaker 1: or not, but I mean his brother Paul looked a
Speaker 1: little shook it. Yeah, he came out of it with
Speaker 1: a black eye, but he was like, it wasn't it
Speaker 1: wasn't the Floyd didn't hit me. It was his bodyguard,
Speaker 1: so I one. Um, but like even when you look
Speaker 1: at like the rhetoric that he was using, like Jake
Speaker 1: Paul came up, like the Floyd Mayweather and his brother
Speaker 1: were on stage and Jake Paul came up, was like,
Speaker 1: your shoes aren't tied, dude. It's like, wait, what do
Speaker 1: you like a sixty year old's talking about pants are right?
Speaker 1: And then try to sticks and stones can't break my bones,
Speaker 1: but these fists will. Yeah, anyways, let's let's hope they do.
Speaker 1: It's yeah, it's if there's I mean Floyd Mayweather two on, yeah,
Speaker 1: like a horrible, atrocious human. It's just like that's why
Speaker 1: I'm like, fuck, I don't know the amiba versus the parasite,
Speaker 1: Like okay, but I definitely want the noisy, dude, they're
Speaker 1: both noisy. But if there's something you want to see
Speaker 1: the guy who was out here being like yo, fight
Speaker 1: anybody like learned what it means to fight, But who's
Speaker 1: like undefeated professionals to get in and beat up both
Speaker 1: of them right after, like right after the fight when
Speaker 1: they're drained. Kimbo Slice comes back from having it's not
Speaker 1: gonna funk out. Yeah, alright, let's talk about the new
Speaker 1: call A Wars, the hard Seltzer Wars. They are upon us.
Speaker 1: There is a lot of lobbying money flying around with
Speaker 1: Seltzers at the moment. We talked about like a few
Speaker 1: weeks ago about how like White Claw had like their
Speaker 1: new like surge level, like fucking White Claw that had
Speaker 1: like more alcohol or whatever. But a lot of this
Speaker 1: has to do with like new players entering the game.
Speaker 1: So first of all, White Claw the Seltzer ship is
Speaker 1: not a flash in the pan. I mean I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: this is this is cool. I'm sure like it'll level off.
Speaker 1: They did. They up to their sales by one six
Speaker 1: and it's not even just because people were at home.
Speaker 1: More like there they did over four billion in sales.
Speaker 1: They did two point six billion the year before, like
Speaker 1: overall in the market for seltzers, and they're now got
Speaker 1: nearly ten percent of the beer category. And what's that's
Speaker 1: doing is creating a lot of ripple effects. The first
Speaker 1: one is that craft beer brewers are now all having
Speaker 1: to make seltzers because they're they're looking at analysis and
Speaker 1: they're like, seltzers are gonna take over the craft beer segment,
Speaker 1: Like they're gonna be a bigger segment than craft beers.
Speaker 1: So you have people like Stone, who does Stone want
Speaker 1: I P and all these other like craft brewers getting
Speaker 1: in the fucking seltzer game because they can't miss the
Speaker 1: fucking wave. And isn't the goal of the seltzer to
Speaker 1: like taste like nothing? So like what is that they're
Speaker 1: gonna be like ours tastes extra like nothing? Like yeah,
Speaker 1: essence of nothing called father's promise. It's just like but
Speaker 1: they're the way Stone is doing it is they're putting
Speaker 1: it into that glass bottle like they're thinking, like they're
Speaker 1: trying to funk with consumers. I'm like glass clear bottle,
Speaker 1: not the fucking slim can. Like we want to show
Speaker 1: people that it's clear. We want to show people like
Speaker 1: and give it this like it's called like whenever either
Speaker 1: or some ship. So they're really trying to sell you
Speaker 1: on this healthy life ship. Um. But it's not just them.
Speaker 1: There was a letter that was being written by the
Speaker 1: head of Boston Beers, who makes Sam Adams and they
Speaker 1: also make Boston We gotta get agonized. These ready to
Speaker 1: drink they're gonna sucking, They're gonna they're gonna get us
Speaker 1: all funked up, bro. So they're trying to get agonized.
Speaker 1: Or because the spirit makers are now like well hold on,
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, people seltzers on the comap, Well,
Speaker 1: what the fuck we should be there too, because I
Speaker 1: think a lot of people think of seltzers already as
Speaker 1: a quasi like vodka soda type can. Yeah, they're they're
Speaker 1: built tunnel lie. They claimed to be like Seltzer or
Speaker 1: like I think people assume their seltzer with vodka in it,
Speaker 1: but it's actually like a multiliquer exactly, which brings us
Speaker 1: to the lobby. So the reason they have to do
Speaker 1: that is for taxes. Right there, it's it's tax differently
Speaker 1: if it's a multi multi liquor versus a spirit because
Speaker 1: of prohibition. Thank you for that temperance movement and the
Speaker 1: whole thing with the like the lobbying is around. They're
Speaker 1: arguing saying that we need to change the tax codes
Speaker 1: actually because it's the same A, B V. And that
Speaker 1: used to be sort of part of the logic and
Speaker 1: we shouldn't by like it's blurring the lines now with
Speaker 1: these seltzers that they feel like we should be able
Speaker 1: to hop in no problem and we can use spirits
Speaker 1: now to turn these up. And it's turning into like
Speaker 1: not even like federal level, but even like local level
Speaker 1: where states that have like you know, monopolies on selling
Speaker 1: certain alcohols, they're even being a lobby to to like
Speaker 1: consider there, you know, they're whatever their rules their regulations
Speaker 1: for vodka bobblers. Yeah, what will smear enough do because
Speaker 1: I think Crown Royals like already in the game and
Speaker 1: they're they're doing well. So just interesting thing to watch
Speaker 1: all these treats turned into like momentary like meme drinks
Speaker 1: and now just being like nah, because the other thing
Speaker 1: too is they point in this article in The Daily
Speaker 1: Beast was about how a lot of people like certain
Speaker 1: drinks were fads because people just would drink something because
Speaker 1: that was the thing to drink, like I P a
Speaker 1: S were very popular because people were just really I
Speaker 1: don't know where in the I P A era, so
Speaker 1: we just drink I p s. And now so many
Speaker 1: of those consumers have shifted to Seltzers because they're just
Speaker 1: sort of on the same thing, like I drink what's
Speaker 1: kind of what of the moment? And now I think
Speaker 1: that they're really trying to hit him with the healthy right,
Speaker 1: like hoppy Seltzer you know one that just really a
Speaker 1: Japanese drink called hoppy alcohol, uh and like it's a
Speaker 1: you add like show to you to it when you
Speaker 1: eat like an old and like an old man like
Speaker 1: yakutory or like he's a guya type place that sounds sick.
Speaker 1: I mean for Selzer's even in the bottle as long
Speaker 1: as they put at old marble at the top and
Speaker 1: do you can play with it? Yeah? Man, but yeah,
Speaker 1: let us know if you're still on that Seltzer train,
Speaker 1: you know, because I definitely saw I saw the wave
Speaker 1: die pretty quickly, like in my friend group. I don't know,
Speaker 1: because I don't know, I feel like the kids who
Speaker 1: are raised on soda, you know what I mean. I
Speaker 1: think Seltzer has a strong influence on them. Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so I feel like they will stick around for a while,
Speaker 1: at least comfortably. Um, but I wonder what's going to
Speaker 1: be the next thing after that, Like, do you guys
Speaker 1: ever see like Gin coming back or something like? I
Speaker 1: don't think so. Right, let's talk about the annoid real quick.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys might were you too
Speaker 1: young too? You did? Congratulations? That was the goal I
Speaker 1: had that the Nintendo game. Oh yeah, yeah, so his
Speaker 1: whole deal was Domino's, uh spokes Matt Scott that would
Speaker 1: he was an antagonist, so it wasn't there was no
Speaker 1: Ronald McDonald here, more more Hamburglar than Ronald McDonald. He
Speaker 1: would try and disrupt delivery of pizza when like pizza
Speaker 1: delivery was a new, uh concept, and the thing they
Speaker 1: were trying to this is kind of amazing. The thing
Speaker 1: they were trying to like communicate to people is that
Speaker 1: your pizza, like what Dominoes was the only place that
Speaker 1: could avoid like this character who ruined pizza deliveries and
Speaker 1: like one one of the problems that people kept having
Speaker 1: with pizza delivery is the pizza would arrive smelling like smoke, uh,
Speaker 1: which is so fucking gross smoke. Yeah, cold and smelling
Speaker 1: like cigarette smoke because like people would just you know,
Speaker 1: the delivery person would just be hacking butts on the
Speaker 1: way over, taking his sweet ass time. Also, I always
Speaker 1: bring this up anytime or early pizza deliveries mentioned. But
Speaker 1: the movie ET they don't understand how pizza delivery works yet,
Speaker 1: and they give him money to go to the end
Speaker 1: of his driveway and tell him to get them a
Speaker 1: pizza with lots of Pepperoni's on it. So when they
Speaker 1: wrote that movie, they thought pizza delivery was someone driving
Speaker 1: around with an oven in their car and like just
Speaker 1: had all the pizzas. Yeah, they just thought they had
Speaker 1: all the pizzas in the car and like you went
Speaker 1: out and told them what what was on the thing?
Speaker 1: I just in imagining like an Italian man like driving
Speaker 1: a car and also checking his pizzas at the same time,
Speaker 1: and like the car is very like poorly built in
Speaker 1: cumbersomes like if he takes a corner too hard, like
Speaker 1: it'll just flip all and then e comes out. It's
Speaker 1: like one with a lot Wait, they were asking Eat
Speaker 1: to get the pizza, No got the pizza. No, it
Speaker 1: was like the teenage the older brother's friends, who I
Speaker 1: who I picture is still being older than me, even
Speaker 1: though I think they're like thirteen. And then uh, they're
Speaker 1: telling Elliott because he's like the they're playing D n D,
Speaker 1: which I think was also kind of groundbreaking. Damn, I
Speaker 1: haven't watched that movie with adult eyes. High school, I
Speaker 1: learned about pizza delivery from movies too, and I learned
Speaker 1: that you could deliver a pizza to a sewer in
Speaker 1: New York. Yeah, they'll slide it right under. Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: just trying to the storm drain, right or were they
Speaker 1: getting a manhole cover? I think it was a manhole
Speaker 1: because then he had to get like changed through like
Speaker 1: a great or something, so it was it was like
Speaker 1: a great. Yeah. Has anyone ever tried to make a
Speaker 1: pizza that replicated just the even the consistency of the
Speaker 1: pizza from the Teenage Mutant Ninja titles? People have tried? Cartoon? Yeah,
Speaker 1: the cartoon it was like slow, wet and like it
Speaker 1: was like sticked here. Yeah, from like All Dogs Go
Speaker 1: to Heaven's style animation pizza. Yeah. Yeah, I think Tucker
Speaker 1: cheese Um got kind of close. Yeah, but not quiet. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like if if your pizza cheese was all barata.
Speaker 1: It's like so wet and like right, and the crust
Speaker 1: was just like dish sponge movie. You remember the cheese
Speaker 1: in the Goofy movie. Yeah, yeah, that's how we started
Speaker 1: our pandemic was a rewatch of the Goofy movie. So anyways,
Speaker 1: Domino's is trying to bring the noise back. If you've
Speaker 1: never seen the Noid, it's like he's wearing like red
Speaker 1: pajamas with like weird floppy bunny ears on top. And
Speaker 1: so they have a new commercial with Annoid disrupting a
Speaker 1: self driving Domino's delivery truck because they want to be
Speaker 1: like whimsical about the fact that they're like robots rolling
Speaker 1: down the street. Yeah, and he's also a mini boss
Speaker 1: in a Crash Bandicoot mobile game. What did you just
Speaker 1: get out of jail or something? Right? Come back, I'm home, man,
Speaker 1: Let's collapse on a game Domino's. Man, I've paid my
Speaker 1: debt to society, come out of retirement. One last Also,
Speaker 1: I was surprised to learn that Jam wrote the story
Speaker 1: for us. By the way, shout out to Jam crushing
Speaker 1: it today, but he uh pointed out that the Anoid
Speaker 1: and the California Raisins, which were both like terrifying but
Speaker 1: like somehow just zeitgeist defining creations, were both made by
Speaker 1: the same claymation artist will Venton Genius, truly a genius.
Speaker 1: The reason that Thenid went away and that there was
Speaker 1: also a Saturday Morning cartoon called The Noids that they
Speaker 1: almost dropped on the world that was just going to
Speaker 1: be a pizza commercial disguised as children's entertainment. But the
Speaker 1: reason the Noid went away was because in nine, a
Speaker 1: man with a mental health condition who happened to be
Speaker 1: ken named Kenneth Noyd took two employees hostage at in
Speaker 1: Atlanta Dominoes UH and believed that the company was basically
Speaker 1: antagonizing him with the character of the Nid and owed
Speaker 1: him money uh. And his demands also included a private
Speaker 1: plan to Mexico and an extravaganza pizza uh. And so
Speaker 1: he's still brand loyal. Yeah. So eventually the hostages were
Speaker 1: able to escape and he surrendered UM and was found
Speaker 1: not guilty by reasons of insanity. But like that was
Speaker 1: that was it. They were just like it became like
Speaker 1: front page news because it was such a strange so yeah,
Speaker 1: he claimed noiditis and the headlines from the time like
Speaker 1: just reading Yeah the l a times uh, one of
Speaker 1: the greats to ever do it. Pizza workers can't avoid
Speaker 1: NYD held hostage five hours. Um, like the fact that
Speaker 1: that's how they really wrote that ship is is well.
Speaker 1: But yeah. So Jan was also pointing out that this
Speaker 1: is part of a like overall renaissance of dumb corporate mascots. Apparently,
Speaker 1: like the generation like Millennials for some reason, have like
Speaker 1: affinity for them. Sevent of American adults enjoy seeing brands
Speaker 1: use mascots, so we can expect to see old mascots.
Speaker 1: Many gen Z kids like rock old promo shirts that
Speaker 1: have like old like old marketing. Ship is kind of
Speaker 1: like the vibe for a lot of younger people, So
Speaker 1: I can see how bringing these like are kind of
Speaker 1: resonating on that. I mean, honestly, we had so many
Speaker 1: mascots back in the nineties. I mean, like in the
Speaker 1: two thousands, we only had car Fox and like the
Speaker 1: general commercial. Yeah exactly. Yeah, in the nineties we had everything.
Speaker 1: We had freaking like Buzzby, we had um everything we
Speaker 1: had in the Hawaiian punch like that, right, dude with
Speaker 1: the wavy hair. They're drawing for the right thing. There
Speaker 1: was the fucking Coca Cola bears, you know. Yeah. Uh,
Speaker 1: I mean even like I wonder if they're gonna bring
Speaker 1: back Ronald McDonald McDonald Ronald McDonald as I call him, uh,
Speaker 1: and like his whole cast of characters, they will eventually
Speaker 1: bring back gram m grama, the face of McDonald's because
Speaker 1: clown clowns have like they were just bringing loss in
Speaker 1: gramad over out of the box thinking. But I like it, yeah,
Speaker 1: because I think children generally don't. Like when I was
Speaker 1: a kid, I found clowns terrifying. My my grandmother collected
Speaker 1: clowns also did not like me. My grandmother did that too,
Speaker 1: my great grandfather. Yeah, it was like your color phobia. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And now my kids like just are agnostic. They're just like,
Speaker 1: I don't know what the fund is that. Why is
Speaker 1: that person have shipped all over their face? His face
Speaker 1: with the doctor there's that sad clown in Toy Story three,
Speaker 1: And they're just like kind of just confused as like
Speaker 1: what is what his deal is? They're like, wait, why
Speaker 1: is he not smiling? Why is it okay? Whatever, Why
Speaker 1: does he look like that? So I yeah, I think
Speaker 1: it's time to replace Ronald with Grammet or Shawn the Sheep.
Speaker 1: One of the two Ronald and all right, that's gonna
Speaker 1: do it. For this week's weekly Zeitgeist. Please like and
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