Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, what happened in the hallway. I have
Speaker 1: no idea where that odor came from. Hello the Internet,
Speaker 1: and welcome to Season one, eight seven, Episode one of
Speaker 1: The Daily Zi Case. It's a production of My Heart
Speaker 1: Radio and it's the podcast where we take a deep
Speaker 1: dive into America's shared consciousness. It's Tuesday, June one, and
Speaker 1: it's pretty June. My name is Miles Gray a k
Speaker 1: an saying, oh maybe I like the grawl. Yeah baby,
Speaker 1: I like the growl. Oh baby, I like the grawl.
Speaker 1: Yeah baby, I like the growl. Chuck chuck, chucky, Yeah,
Speaker 1: im chuggi ya give me the mike so I could
Speaker 1: to get away off on the natural tooth bar voyage. Yeah,
Speaker 1: from the Home of the Dodgers too squad. Okay, there
Speaker 1: it was that shout out to my boy in out
Speaker 1: of nowhere. My friend hits you with an a K
Speaker 1: A yes in the key of old dirty Bastard. Thank
Speaker 1: you so much for that. Without further ado, let me
Speaker 1: just get to the main fan here, the guest co
Speaker 1: hosting the guest, because without them, it's just some dude
Speaker 1: who's just brambling on about his friends text message threats.
Speaker 1: So first, allow me to introduce our honorable co host
Speaker 1: for today, the one I don't even have to give
Speaker 1: any fucking introductions anymore. It's Jamie Loftus. Oh a, kay a, well,
Speaker 1: my name is Jamie Loftus, A frequent podcast guest. Am I,
Speaker 1: but I host the dailys I Guess with Miles from
Speaker 1: time to dame. If I could get rich hosting a
Speaker 1: feminist podcast of my own, I probably buy the l
Speaker 1: A Kings And right on the zamboon that wasn't what
Speaker 1: I think is one of my favorites of all time.
Speaker 1: That they from Chilton Bloomstone, which is a very rich
Speaker 1: sounding name. Sorry, that's a name, Chiltern Bloomstone, Bloomstone of course,
Speaker 1: of course children Bloomstone the fourth actually if you remember,
Speaker 1: thank you child Bloomstone. Thank you Chilkee. And we must
Speaker 1: go on. We must introduce our guests today, someone who
Speaker 1: we always love around these parts, someone who you always
Speaker 1: love around these parts, because I can tell by the
Speaker 1: posts and likes, the interactions when you see this person's
Speaker 1: face when we post about them being on the show.
Speaker 1: I want to introduce our guests today, the wonderful, the talented,
Speaker 1: my fellow Bruin who will leave you an emotional ruin.
Speaker 1: It is blair sake, daily zy guy, You're fucking boy Blair.
Speaker 1: Back to fucking hang with my pals. I'm yet to
Speaker 1: do an a K. I'd really have to dig deep
Speaker 1: to be vulnerable in that way because if I could
Speaker 1: have the skills to execute. But maybe one day it's
Speaker 1: going to happen. I see. So you you happen you
Speaker 1: adopt the like O C. Surfer affects as like your
Speaker 1: shield for your a K. Oh my god, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: Miles Jesus seriously so serious that I think Blair could
Speaker 1: do an ak as herself. Yeah, thank you, Jamie, thank you.
Speaker 1: I'm just I was just exploring that I saw that
Speaker 1: there was some hesitation through the Huntington Beach. Bad boy. Okay, Look,
Speaker 1: first of all, as a former resident of Orange County,
Speaker 1: I just spell I am not associated with Huntington's Beach anyway,
Speaker 1: and I want everyone out there naturally to know that
Speaker 1: I do not except Huntington Beach as my own, right
Speaker 1: I mean, is that because of just the cool Tito
Speaker 1: warties and all the people of Huntington's Beach and how
Speaker 1: they get down. Yeah, I think it has something to
Speaker 1: do with all the genius rhetoric that's coming out of
Speaker 1: there lately and all the very likable and safe, sound
Speaker 1: minded people are. What part of o C did you
Speaker 1: grow up with, Samuel and Capstrano and sant Many. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: very south? Okay, okay, I got you. I got about
Speaker 1: thirty five minutes south of Huntington's Beach, many miles away.
Speaker 1: I've always thought of Huntington's Beach as a great exchange
Speaker 1: of ideas. It's a real ye, the Paris Commune, if
Speaker 1: you will. A lot of three gorgeous kind thinking comes
Speaker 1: out of there. Yeah right, yeah, I'm thinking that the
Speaker 1: world may not be ready for honestly, yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: think they are. And you know what, it's it's it's fine,
Speaker 1: and just you can y'all can just chill down there. Anyway,
Speaker 1: let's get into what we're gonna talk about. Obviously we're
Speaker 1: gonna get to know you even better, Blair, but let's
Speaker 1: talk about, you know, just a quick preview what we're
Speaker 1: gonna divulge or discuss today. First up, a little bit
Speaker 1: of good news because big oil, the fossil fuel earth fuckers,
Speaker 1: they're starting to take else kind of and I mean
Speaker 1: it feels insignificant, but when you actually think about it, like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is actually significant. So we'll have a little bit
Speaker 1: of good news on that front. Then we're gonna talk about,
Speaker 1: you know, the vaccine incentives seem to be working, the
Speaker 1: vac Similian thing in Ohio. They had their first winner.
Speaker 1: I guess these incentives are working to the point where
Speaker 1: now Republicans are introducing bills to stop vaccine incentives because
Speaker 1: if they're evil. Um okay uh. And then we'll talk
Speaker 1: a little bit about a new development and Instagram likes
Speaker 1: and sort of what came out of the research from
Speaker 1: Instagram saying like do we need likes? Do people need likes?
Speaker 1: Is it healthy? Is it unhealthy? So we'll get into
Speaker 1: that and also just talk about, you know, just a
Speaker 1: little bit of the origins of Cruella Deville, which I
Speaker 1: did not really understand or know about. Our fabulous writer
Speaker 1: jam has given us a piece of that and says,
Speaker 1: you know what, yeah, you know, they were doing Cruella
Speaker 1: pretty dirty, So you know, maybe this movie can be
Speaker 1: a good chance to create a human being who isn't
Speaker 1: just a depiction of a woman in a car that's dangerous.
Speaker 1: I've been saying for years I should be allowed to
Speaker 1: kill dogs, and it's not to say that I shouldn't
Speaker 1: be doing that. Okay, Okay, we're going to get into that.
Speaker 1: But first Blair hit us with something from your search
Speaker 1: history that you know reveals a little bit about you. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I clicked up my Google search and the first
Speaker 1: things that came up were black, tormaline, crystal, and then
Speaker 1: the second was what has post Malone been up too lately?
Speaker 1: What's the answer to that question? I don't know. Like
Speaker 1: what I love about post Malone is that he's constantly
Speaker 1: just like trying new things. You know, He's very unbound
Speaker 1: by any sort of convention or genre, Like you know,
Speaker 1: he did that the whole Nirvana thing, and he's always
Speaker 1: in crocs or like weird brand partnerships. He just beats
Speaker 1: to his own drum. And I love that about him.
Speaker 1: Do you. He's a big Dallas cow Boys fan too,
Speaker 1: Like that's a huge part of his brand. He's always
Speaker 1: I feel like the lasting I saw him in was
Speaker 1: like the most ridiculous Dallas Cowboys suit. Yeah. What I
Speaker 1: love about him is he's just like a melting pot
Speaker 1: of like so many things that you would never know
Speaker 1: could go together right, right, he contains multitudes with like
Speaker 1: all the brand collaborations. I feel like, like Jamie, that's
Speaker 1: even something you I could see you be like, yo,
Speaker 1: Jamie's got this. She has a croc a doughnut, uh,
Speaker 1: like a whole like set of gas station sushi. Like
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of different dope collation. Right,
Speaker 1: there's an untapped market is gas station sushi. I feel
Speaker 1: like it's yeah, someone's got to step it up. I
Speaker 1: would love to get in the ground floor of that.
Speaker 1: Because the branding on gas station sushi, I mean, they
Speaker 1: have a branding issue. It's not a product issue. I've
Speaker 1: never gotten sick what they It's a trust barrier, theft
Speaker 1: to overcome. And who better than a podcaster journalist like
Speaker 1: fantastic to creator that you know? To you, maybe you
Speaker 1: don't know, but I'm telling you the people at seventy six,
Speaker 1: you're gonna want her face on these sushi packages. People
Speaker 1: are going to be running for them. I want, I
Speaker 1: want to plug. I want to pledge my future movie
Speaker 1: star dollars to your gas station sushi right now. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: I think you could turn this around for everyone. Thank
Speaker 1: you so much. So You're pledging your fortune right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean some I like to consume sushi, and if
Speaker 1: it was on the go option that I trusted from
Speaker 1: Jamie Loftus, absolutely, I'm putting it down the gullet. It's
Speaker 1: a solid movie star investment to make. It's like when
Speaker 1: Mickey Rooney invested in Circular Hot Dogs once and oh
Speaker 1: that's yeah. He tried to make Circle Hot Talks happening.
Speaker 1: He also tried to make Soda for Dogs happen. Hold
Speaker 1: on circu like like you take off Frank and just
Speaker 1: make it like a halo like Hamburger, like Hamburger and
Speaker 1: by you kind of it's kind of like it's like
Speaker 1: a real these skinny meat doughnut, is how I would
Speaker 1: describe what he was trying to do. It was like
Speaker 1: in the eighties and he was just like, what if
Speaker 1: so you can put it on a Hamburger bun? I
Speaker 1: think was the idea. The middle part is all like,
Speaker 1: ain't nothing in the middle empty? It didn't. The business
Speaker 1: didn't work, and Soda for Dogs. Soda for Dogs was
Speaker 1: another failed business venture of Mickey Rooney's. I forget why
Speaker 1: I know this, but he had a lot of fun
Speaker 1: businesses that that just totally ate. Ship soda for dogs
Speaker 1: sounds like it could be a good idea, But I
Speaker 1: did just say that it should be legal for me
Speaker 1: to kill dogs, but dogs for years and you're merely
Speaker 1: just posing a question to what it means to be
Speaker 1: able to or not able to do something. But we
Speaker 1: all are dog lovers here, right, I just want to
Speaker 1: make sure we're on the same page. Oh yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: So have you ever thought like, oh, I want my
Speaker 1: dog to know this because that this dog soda things
Speaker 1: sounds good thing where you're like you think you know
Speaker 1: what a dog wants, and you're like, dogs, man, they
Speaker 1: want the soda, and I feel like they need a dog.
Speaker 1: I've never wanted to I've wanted to give people things
Speaker 1: to sunny, but soda is not one of the things.
Speaker 1: I felt like sad that dogs can't have chocolate. It's
Speaker 1: like I have felt like actual sadness about that before,
Speaker 1: like just walking around, like on the street and be like, damn,
Speaker 1: they can really never have that, you know? But I
Speaker 1: guess we don't. We are ego like mine thinks we
Speaker 1: know what's best, but really we have to give these
Speaker 1: dogs the dignity of their own experience, fantastic, Thank you
Speaker 1: so much the insight. Yeah, that because chocolate is even
Speaker 1: like one of those things when people like I don't
Speaker 1: like chocolate, I'm like, really like you dislike I guess
Speaker 1: if you're not saying it's your favorite thing. When people like, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't like it. I don't like it,
Speaker 1: I feel my heart. It feels like when people say like,
Speaker 1: I don't really like me music, and it's like, even, like,
Speaker 1: what are you talking about any music? That makes no sense?
Speaker 1: That gang? I know we have a broad coalition of listeners.
Speaker 1: If you are one of these people who says I
Speaker 1: don't really like music, can you explain what that means
Speaker 1: to me? Like you do, You're like, please turn that off.
Speaker 1: I don't like it because I know some people just
Speaker 1: ambivalent towards music. They're like, I don't feel like, don't
Speaker 1: keep up with stuff or whatever. But like different though,
Speaker 1: don't you think? Yeah? I think honestly those people that
Speaker 1: say they just don't like music as like a whole.
Speaker 1: When there's i mean, maybe one million different types of
Speaker 1: strains in genres, it's really sort of a lack of
Speaker 1: vulnerability issue. In my opinion, they're unwilling to open up
Speaker 1: to something that could really deeply move them. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: maybe haven't heard post malone yet. I agree with you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh man, a good idea. Okay, so let's move on, Blair.
Speaker 1: What's something that you think is overrated? Okay, overrated? I'll
Speaker 1: the gate. I'm gonna have to go us and tell
Speaker 1: you guys. I have a really visceral reaction to when
Speaker 1: people use the word epic, probably because I am from
Speaker 1: Orange County and so like for me, it is when
Speaker 1: you like, sort of like when you drank too much
Speaker 1: tequila when I in high school, so you can now
Speaker 1: never have Jose Querbo again. But anyways, Yeah, the word
Speaker 1: epic just makes me sort of shiver, quiver in my bones, run,
Speaker 1: it runs a little chill down my spine. You know, wow,
Speaker 1: what like is there any is it in that sense?
Speaker 1: You go, oh, it was fucking epic? Yeah. I reject
Speaker 1: the the ironic reclaiming of epic two. I have no
Speaker 1: interest in the reclaiming of epic and random in the year.
Speaker 1: How are you seeing the use of epic Like, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm more narrow in my experience with that word, and
Speaker 1: it's always been like bro vernacular. Yeah, you know what
Speaker 1: it gives off a strong um senior copywriter, like very
Speaker 1: confident um guy who works at like a marketing agency vibe,
Speaker 1: you know, and he's like, yeah, I was, we are
Speaker 1: an epic weekend like out on the water and it
Speaker 1: was epic anyway, Blair, thanks for covering for me and
Speaker 1: working all weekend, man, because honestly, if you saw the picks, dude,
Speaker 1: Rod fucking did a back flip off his sea du
Speaker 1: and landed that ship. Dude, it was fucking e p
Speaker 1: I C. It's like a word used to describe in
Speaker 1: a weekend where boys get really hurt, like yeah, got injured. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's nothing, there's probably crimes committed. When someone saying it
Speaker 1: was epic, I must acknowledge like the general hypocrisy of me,
Speaker 1: you know, having a version to that word when that
Speaker 1: sort of is the whole um vibe in which I talk.
Speaker 1: But you know, the word itself, I I really don't
Speaker 1: like that much. Yeah, but your your energy transcends what
Speaker 1: we could ever, you know, pin to some kind of
Speaker 1: word or way of speaking, So I wouldn't I wouldn't
Speaker 1: worry about that. Thank you so much. Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1: It's true. That's we only have transcendent guests on here.
Speaker 1: That's okay. And finally, Blair, what is something that you
Speaker 1: think is underrated? Okay, guys, I just got to be
Speaker 1: straight up with you. Chip clips are incredible. Okay. You
Speaker 1: will not catch my cereal getting stale, no fucking way.
Speaker 1: Thank you God for this sophisticated as invention that just
Speaker 1: brings joy and laser execution into my life. Chip Clips
Speaker 1: are the silent, subtle assassin of adding overwhelming value while
Speaker 1: asking for little to no recognition. Chip clicks are the
Speaker 1: Scott be pipping how old kitchen? Where? Yes? Yes, cereal?
Speaker 1: That's totally is it? Am I like fucked up for
Speaker 1: not realizing that? Yeah, that I've never I've never sealed
Speaker 1: the cereal outside of like the box. That's brilliant. One
Speaker 1: day I just was walking by in the store and
Speaker 1: it was like a little thing sticking out in the aisle,
Speaker 1: you know, and I just grabbed like a whole like
Speaker 1: a um, it had like a whole bunch of them
Speaker 1: on one thing. And from that day on the amount
Speaker 1: of just my life improved skyrocketed. And it's like I'm
Speaker 1: putting those chip clips on on frozen disks and chips
Speaker 1: and cereal, and it's just incredible. It really is, Like
Speaker 1: which is it the ones that you it's like the
Speaker 1: straight bar so it's like a hairclip one, or the
Speaker 1: one that's more like a binder clip, because you know,
Speaker 1: there's there's different chip bag clipping technique, different one. I
Speaker 1: think if the second one is kind of like elegant
Speaker 1: where I was like, oh, this is it's that kind
Speaker 1: of it's a binder click. Yeah, mine is actually not
Speaker 1: like a binder one. It's more um fastened like a clothespin,
Speaker 1: but just um really sleek plastic and wow it works
Speaker 1: really good. Yeah. I remember as a kid, I think
Speaker 1: because the frequency at which I would eat cereal, it
Speaker 1: wasn't really time for it to get stale, you know,
Speaker 1: because like it would probably be like a boxing cereal
Speaker 1: probably be done within a week or so. And then
Speaker 1: I remember like going to kids houses and like you know,
Speaker 1: like their parents had like the ship in like the tupperware,
Speaker 1: and like they would pour it out of like a
Speaker 1: and I would always be like, you don't even know
Speaker 1: what you know what the box on the other fuck
Speaker 1: is stupid. And then I'm like, yeah, that ship is
Speaker 1: way fresher. How am I supposed to know what that
Speaker 1: is if there's not a cartoon. I know, but that
Speaker 1: just shows you by the child brain at the time. Like, man,
Speaker 1: it's like cocoa crisp. I can't I can't tell about
Speaker 1: the robbers on it. I like the taste of stale food,
Speaker 1: and so sometimes I'll like not clip the chips, and
Speaker 1: then it creates how alsehold issues because Isaac will be like,
Speaker 1: you're a little mouse, like why are you doing this?
Speaker 1: Why are the chips like soft? But I kind of
Speaker 1: like when the chips are soft, wow, so you like
Speaker 1: you're not You're down with a little bit of stale chip.
Speaker 1: I love. I love a stale chip in a flat soda.
Speaker 1: I don't know what, like I should should I should
Speaker 1: just walk into the ocean. I need just natural contrarians. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's true. It's true. If anyone prefers a stale chip,
Speaker 1: let me know, because it truly, like doesn't bother me
Speaker 1: at all. I enjoy it. I wonder, man, that could
Speaker 1: be an interesting that's like your circular hot dogs is
Speaker 1: like pre staled chips by Jamie. Well, yeah, I'll just
Speaker 1: sell bags of chips that I already opened, had three
Speaker 1: chips from and then put back in the cabinet for
Speaker 1: three weeks. Touch a stale from Jamie Loftus. I hope
Speaker 1: this thing though too, where I know people who put
Speaker 1: chips in the refrigerator and I don't understand, like clipped
Speaker 1: and in the refrigerator. Well, that's that's sort of innovative.
Speaker 1: My mom taught me to keep my coffee in refrigerator,
Speaker 1: which was something I never considered. The beans, the ground beans.
Speaker 1: I don't really funk with a whole bean myself, but oh,
Speaker 1: you get the pregrounds. Yeah, I mean I don't have
Speaker 1: that much time or ambition for that many steps in
Speaker 1: my coffee process. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I I used to
Speaker 1: just drink it out of a can. That's how much
Speaker 1: energy I put into it. But also shout out to
Speaker 1: Sam over a timeless coffee always sends me wonderful coffee
Speaker 1: that matches drinks. Oh, my beans are like so good.
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm not worthy of good coffee because
Speaker 1: I'm just so used to drinking like Kirkland coldbrew. But
Speaker 1: like when you actually get all these notes, You're like,
Speaker 1: oh ship, I feel like I'm an ad executive. We
Speaker 1: just said he had an epic weekend or something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's exactly that's the true. All right. Anyway, um, let's
Speaker 1: take a quick break and we'll be right back to
Speaker 1: talk stories. And we're back. Let's talk a little bit
Speaker 1: about some good news for the Earth, because it was
Speaker 1: kind of a rough week if you're in the fossil
Speaker 1: fuel earth desecration business. Yeah, much week for RuPaul and
Speaker 1: the Oh my god, my favorite wait is Ruler Sorry
Speaker 1: and his husband are notorious frackers. I think that came
Speaker 1: out at like the beginning of the pandemic, where like
Speaker 1: everyone found out that RuPaul was fracking, but then we
Speaker 1: kind of had bigger fish to fry. But RuPaul notorious practice.
Speaker 1: March one is when they came out, and then rumors,
Speaker 1: what's the timeline of the ridiculous rumors came out in August?
Speaker 1: Oh wait, no, no, that's after the fact. Man, I'm
Speaker 1: so bad with numbers right now. I still think it's
Speaker 1: sometimes okay, but yes, in this instance, just let's just
Speaker 1: check in with Exxon Mobile. Okay, heard of them? Probably
Speaker 1: they're one of the worst polluters on the planet. An
Speaker 1: epic polluteric that's where you know that shareholders meeting is
Speaker 1: just a few dudes who are you know, waiting to
Speaker 1: just say how epic the fucking the profits are. But
Speaker 1: from the end on annual fishing trip, I fucking love
Speaker 1: that weekend, favorite week in the year, dude, So sick, dude,
Speaker 1: we through like spent plutonium rods into this lake to
Speaker 1: see what it would do the fish and it was
Speaker 1: a boil into the ocean used as a fucking slipping slide,
Speaker 1: my dude. So at X on Mobile, like a group
Speaker 1: of rogue shareholders were able to install two independent directors
Speaker 1: to their board of directors. Like this was a math
Speaker 1: sive campaign because for the whole time, a lot of
Speaker 1: these shareholders they're like, uh, you know, just we own
Speaker 1: a lot of stock in this company, and just as
Speaker 1: a matter of a business practice, we think ignoring climate
Speaker 1: change is a terrible strategy because there's like things like
Speaker 1: people's retirement and pension funds wrapped up in it. Like
Speaker 1: they're trying to be like response, like, if we're gonna
Speaker 1: be putting money in this, it has to last. So
Speaker 1: there was this an entire campaign too, essentially get like
Speaker 1: when these elections were happening, get this massive ground Sowil
Speaker 1: of support, but behind two of these new directors on
Speaker 1: their twelve person board, and this is like again it
Speaker 1: sounds like, okay, well it's fucking two verse ten. But
Speaker 1: this is the first time there's ever been like people
Speaker 1: who are there to be like, I completely disagree with
Speaker 1: everything you're saying, and I'm also on this board like
Speaker 1: it was all it was either done you know, light
Speaker 1: touch or whatever, but never to this extent. So you know,
Speaker 1: a bit of discomfort for them. That's I mean, that's
Speaker 1: generally positive. It's so I mean, this is also fucking
Speaker 1: bleak in general, where they're like, wait a second, we
Speaker 1: need the earth to last a little longer. We're going
Speaker 1: to continue to profit off the earth, so I guess
Speaker 1: we can't blow everything up. So like I I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess that this was going to have to happen eventually,
Speaker 1: but I don't know. This is the other ridiculous thing.
Speaker 1: The amount of money spent before this these votes were tabulated.
Speaker 1: It was like a full on, like millions of dollars
Speaker 1: were spent just to change the makeup of the Border
Speaker 1: directors to get two people who were less inclined to
Speaker 1: shoot on the earth for more money, they're more money. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like they'll they'll make that money back in seconds,
Speaker 1: to the point where like ex On Mobile, they declared
Speaker 1: a recess in the middle of like the like the
Speaker 1: meeting because they were like a funk, man, I don't
Speaker 1: know if we got like enough votes for the people
Speaker 1: we want, and they were trying to like stop the
Speaker 1: vote again. And I think that's as signed to show
Speaker 1: how fucked up in ghoulish all of this stuff is
Speaker 1: like the inner workings that it even costs millions to
Speaker 1: sway people to make more millions by abandoning a practice
Speaker 1: that is like just extracting minerals from the earth that
Speaker 1: are finite rather than you know what about unlimited seem
Speaker 1: like a good business decision. I don't know. I mean
Speaker 1: my assumption. I don't know anything about the the board
Speaker 1: of Exile Mobile, but my assumption is they're all old
Speaker 1: as ship and don't care what happens in twenty years
Speaker 1: because they will have died. Yeah, I wonder, yeah the
Speaker 1: age makeup what what that looks like. And then Chevron
Speaker 1: they also had something, they had a little bit of
Speaker 1: h us that shareholders smacked their little greedy hands back
Speaker 1: cast their support to get behind the proposal asking Chevron
Speaker 1: to cut its greenhouse gas emissions. They're like, look, I
Speaker 1: don't know, like whatever you said is happening, Like it's
Speaker 1: not good enough for us, and like, well we could
Speaker 1: do this, and and we said we're doing this, and
Speaker 1: they're like, no, no, you've you've been You've been just
Speaker 1: dragging your feet too long. So here it is, please
Speaker 1: do this from all the way down from your operations
Speaker 1: to supply chains. This has to come down significantly. So again,
Speaker 1: I don't know, it seems like people, I guess the greedy,
Speaker 1: you know, the people who are even have these shares
Speaker 1: and are willing to do this. They're even realizing there,
Speaker 1: I guess money is at risk. So shout out to
Speaker 1: oil companies in the eleventh hour realizing the Earth needs
Speaker 1: to exist to make money on Earth. Really incredible work,
Speaker 1: you guys. I mean, what do you think. There's there's
Speaker 1: so many things, and you read about climate change, like
Speaker 1: it just become so disheartening because like the last thing
Speaker 1: I read was like satellites have been grossly underestimating the
Speaker 1: heating of the Earth. I'm like, oh my god, no,
Speaker 1: really yeah, like they're these like really fucking apocalyptic headlines,
Speaker 1: and it don't. It's it's truly one of like the
Speaker 1: multiple absurdities that we have happening concurrently in like global society,
Speaker 1: where we're like we're just like setting ourselves on fire.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I just can't go on Twitter because there's like
Speaker 1: at least one tweet a day where someone's like, good
Speaker 1: luck enjoying your day when the earth is going to
Speaker 1: be on fired four years. I sort of God, that's like, seriously,
Speaker 1: just like what Twitter is like distilled down to me
Speaker 1: for today, I'm like, do I want to go on
Speaker 1: there and see that? Because it does feel like there
Speaker 1: consideration for climate change feels like something that people are
Speaker 1: just now thinking about, like in the last few years,
Speaker 1: like critically and seriously. I wonder if it's like because
Speaker 1: like there's this thing where like the old people who
Speaker 1: have been in charge of like a lot of these corporations,
Speaker 1: like they're hearing maybe like they're their own grandkids, like Hey,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you do you do you know whatever?
Speaker 1: Just cut? Does there money on my credit card? All right? By?
Speaker 1: I don't know like if they're seeing more pressure because
Speaker 1: I remember when I went to Alaska a few years ago,
Speaker 1: I was like I visited a glacier and there was
Speaker 1: like this whole thing about being like, look how significant
Speaker 1: this glacier was and how it's receded over the years.
Speaker 1: And there was this older couple who were there, Like
Speaker 1: the woman was like, oh my god, it's so horrible,
Speaker 1: and her husband was like, you believe in this stuff?
Speaker 1: And she's like, Bill, it's melting, Like it's what do
Speaker 1: you mean we're seeing like up and and he was like,
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's like but think about our grandkids.
Speaker 1: He's like, I don't know. It's like I don't really
Speaker 1: have time for that. Like they just kept going and
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, what a moment to just see,
Speaker 1: Like I guess yeah, everyone has their own indifference for
Speaker 1: things like that or can't fathom what their future is
Speaker 1: going to look like. So well, in general, it's easier
Speaker 1: to not think or not feel feelings than to feel
Speaker 1: the way and truth of the feelings in your soul. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Bills just like, not not for me, but it's melting
Speaker 1: it the way it was said melting like I don't
Speaker 1: believe in that was like it's ice cube melting though, Bill, No, no, No,
Speaker 1: too many things I've already we'll see. We'll see how
Speaker 1: bears that for the end of the planet today, come
Speaker 1: on our beer tastings in forty minutes. I do agree
Speaker 1: player that, Like, yeah, logging into Twitter every day is
Speaker 1: like it kind of becomes the like remember you will
Speaker 1: Die zone, just like full on Memento Maria, anytime you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I just was hoping to see a couple a little jokes.
Speaker 1: I just like a couple of little jokes this morning.
Speaker 1: But you're right, I will die. And and sometimes I
Speaker 1: feel guilt, And I mean, I know this is a
Speaker 1: shadow aspect of myself, but I feel guilt for posting
Speaker 1: a joke when I'll see twenty tweets about like the
Speaker 1: all the crisis of today, and and then I forget, like,
Speaker 1: oh great, now I've come on to a place where
Speaker 1: I feel guilt of being myself and what I feel
Speaker 1: my purpose to spread in the world is, which is
Speaker 1: jokes and laughter, you know whatever. Yeah, it's a very
Speaker 1: bizarre place to exist, Yeah for sure. But I think
Speaker 1: that's just sort of like the surreal and fucked up
Speaker 1: nature of like social media is like when you're like,
Speaker 1: there are these things where people contribute their words too.
Speaker 1: It begins to just look as like your existence is
Speaker 1: sort of distilled to whatever is posted there. When it's
Speaker 1: like I saw how sad I was in person. Guys,
Speaker 1: you would I started. I started. I don't do it
Speaker 1: on Twitter, but on my Instagram. I used to be like,
Speaker 1: I don't wanna write like sincere stuff on there, and
Speaker 1: now I like write sincere stuff all the time. And
Speaker 1: sometimes I have that thought in my head where it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: like that like comedians who are like Earnest, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: And then I'm like, fuck you. I give you, guys,
Speaker 1: so many jokes and stuff. I can be sincere and
Speaker 1: my real, true sensitive soul whenever I want. But you're
Speaker 1: reminding me that I'm not being votable. Yeah, now I
Speaker 1: feel guilty. Their epic fail of a post your Instagram
Speaker 1: is is such good vibes player. That's so sweet. Thank you.
Speaker 1: Oh God, I would say to all people, you know,
Speaker 1: we're again. We're facing omni crises all over in many
Speaker 1: different turns. Um Unfortunately, like apathy around climate change is
Speaker 1: the is the thing that is probably the biggest problem.
Speaker 1: But at the same level, it's like I think it's
Speaker 1: about figuring out how I think you know whether it's
Speaker 1: more people can't just symbolically do shit anymore, and we
Speaker 1: need like real answers, real regulation. And as much as
Speaker 1: they want to be like whoa or your fucking lightbulbs twisty,
Speaker 1: you know, your straw's paper, I'm like, hey, asshole, I
Speaker 1: don't generate the fucking power. Oh my god. When that
Speaker 1: like the straw thing came out, it was hard for
Speaker 1: me to accept because I love a straw. But also
Speaker 1: I was just like, okay, great the straws, but why
Speaker 1: aren't we getting rid of dodge rams? You know he
Speaker 1: first since first straws over here because someone drives past you.
Speaker 1: When the hummer is like, excuse me that straw is
Speaker 1: it slams the brakes hold on. Yeah. It's like I
Speaker 1: I am concerned about the turtles and it's like good,
Speaker 1: I want their turtles to live. But like we do
Speaker 1: also have to reckon with humankind as well. Um well,
Speaker 1: speaking of reckoning with humankind, I just want to talk
Speaker 1: about vaccine incentives. It's been you know, just all the rage.
Speaker 1: You know, we know in Ohio they're doing vax Similion
Speaker 1: where you know a few people could If you're vaccinated,
Speaker 1: you are eligible to win a huge million dollar cash prize,
Speaker 1: and last week they picked their first winner and it
Speaker 1: was twenty two year old Abbe Bulginski from Cincinnati, who
Speaker 1: when two year old, got a million dollars. She was
Speaker 1: on her way to buy a used car when she
Speaker 1: got the call from the governor to be like, hey
Speaker 1: you want It's like, are you fucking what is this joke? Dude,
Speaker 1: I gotta go buy a used car. And they're like, no, no, no, seriously, seriously,
Speaker 1: you know that you won the vax Similian thing. She
Speaker 1: says she doesn't know how she plans to spend the money,
Speaker 1: but some will be donated and some will go to
Speaker 1: the new car she's been wanting, and the rest will
Speaker 1: probably be invested. So god, what a levelheaded, incredible young woman.
Speaker 1: I was kind of like, yeah, what a sensible what
Speaker 1: a sensible gal? Or she knows how to just say
Speaker 1: the right things. She's like, yeah, donated to my baller
Speaker 1: fund and then the wrest will go to my new
Speaker 1: asthma sick as Mercedes. I'm gonna pull up in. But yeah,
Speaker 1: she won, and now many other states have realized, yes,
Speaker 1: the thing that America does in American culture, like we
Speaker 1: incentivize shit to get people to do things. That's like
Speaker 1: how everything's built. Really, what do I get? Yeah? What
Speaker 1: do I get? So because of that, California is gonna
Speaker 1: be doing something where they're we've got like over a
Speaker 1: hundred and sixteen million for certain incentives. I don't know
Speaker 1: what that's going to turn out to be. There's the
Speaker 1: governor of West Virginia. He did a thing with like
Speaker 1: his little dog, who's like this bulldog, and he's like,
Speaker 1: look at, look at little baby dog. How are you
Speaker 1: gonna say no to my dog? And it's just like this,
Speaker 1: look at And they're doing things they know how to incentivice,
Speaker 1: ship over their cash prizes, college scholarships, intend pickup trucks. Okay,
Speaker 1: so everybody's got their version. Now. I feel like that's
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a bleak way of looking at it.
Speaker 1: But it's also like, I don't know, I mean, we
Speaker 1: we should have been paid to fucking stay home last year.
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of the reason that people
Speaker 1: are so like would would be down to get vaccinated
Speaker 1: for a chance at a million dollars is because of
Speaker 1: all these other failures. So I don't know, I'm like, yeah, sure,
Speaker 1: like whatever vaccine lottery, let's go do what you gotta.
Speaker 1: I mean, look as the numbers stall out and they're like,
Speaker 1: there's you know, who knows what else is going to
Speaker 1: come around the bend in terms of variances and things
Speaker 1: like that, that like, we want to be able to
Speaker 1: get some semblance of normalcy back. Obviously never the same,
Speaker 1: but sometimes like well, no one's been incentivized to deal
Speaker 1: with the pandemic for well, like by the government at least,
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly, because if everything was hey, we
Speaker 1: get it. We had to shut businesses down. Therefore, we're
Speaker 1: stopping your bills because how the funk could you pay
Speaker 1: them if you're not working. We're not animals or months.
Speaker 1: Oh wait, no we are. So they're gonna have to
Speaker 1: figure it out. You're gonna face a huge bill in
Speaker 1: about two years. Good fucking luck. I love the idea
Speaker 1: of like one of these like quing on people that's
Speaker 1: like no, not no, what you're not getting the back
Speaker 1: seeing and then he's like, wait a minute, pickup truck. Okay,
Speaker 1: cap me in, I'm getting me a new truck. Forget
Speaker 1: everything I said, Because for a lot of people it's
Speaker 1: just like a take that you're on the side of
Speaker 1: or you're just sort of uninformed. So some people might
Speaker 1: feel like, at the end of the day, you're like
Speaker 1: my weird like own the lips ideology isn't as great
Speaker 1: as my passion for a dodge ram. Yeah, own the lips.
Speaker 1: But give me these truck nuts. Yeah, oh god, wait
Speaker 1: truck nuts. If you get vaccinated, hold on, Okay, I'll
Speaker 1: take the prick shot. But I think you know, it
Speaker 1: all depends because some people they want money, some people
Speaker 1: want trucks, some people want hugs. But at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, what we do know is the anti
Speaker 1: vax rout is very angry about this because the legislators
Speaker 1: over there have introduced a fucking bill that is like,
Speaker 1: dick there, you can't make anyone get a vaccine. You
Speaker 1: can't even say the word vaccine. You can't even like
Speaker 1: ask someone to get one. Like whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa?
Speaker 1: What is this? So let me just read the description
Speaker 1: the legislation with band vaccine requirements on customers, employees, or
Speaker 1: students from business as, hospitals, and nursing homes, k through
Speaker 1: twelve schools, colleges, daycares, or others. It would also prevent governments, insurers,
Speaker 1: or businesses from offering incentives for people to get vaccinated,
Speaker 1: or even requesting that people get vaccinated. Under the bill,
Speaker 1: of small business owned by asthmatics or cancer survivors, both
Speaker 1: of whom are at higher risk of serious COVID nineteen complications,
Speaker 1: would have no legal right to require even requests that
Speaker 1: employees or customers who come inside be vaccinated. You know,
Speaker 1: people love to if you have a business, aren't thought
Speaker 1: you can tell everybody? You could do what you please.
Speaker 1: But I guess this is very I guess logic because
Speaker 1: sometimes you hear anti vacs people say, well, it's about
Speaker 1: personal choice too, but like to then completely vilify the
Speaker 1: vaccine that isn't gonna work, That's not that's I don't
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not sure what that outcome you're looking
Speaker 1: for is, aside from just being like stop it. People
Speaker 1: are agreeing with this. That logic is so interesting though,
Speaker 1: and like I do understand that it's I I know,
Speaker 1: I've heard a lot of people say that it's about
Speaker 1: the idea of being forced in the loss of freedom,
Speaker 1: But I mean, like, what about like all of those
Speaker 1: vaccines that we all had to get to go to
Speaker 1: school when we were three or four, Like what about
Speaker 1: those you know, Well, I never had them and I
Speaker 1: never take flu shots and I never get sick. So
Speaker 1: because that's the other ideology too, which is main character syndrome,
Speaker 1: where you think every single person has the same immune
Speaker 1: system you do. And maybe because you've not met people
Speaker 1: who've had complications. We've had guests on this show who
Speaker 1: have dealt with COVID complications in the past, like you know, candidly,
Speaker 1: and we're like, oh God, that's awful. It's not the
Speaker 1: same for anyone, and to have that like singular mindset
Speaker 1: is so awful. Meanwhile, there are millions of people dying
Speaker 1: all over the world. And if you look at even
Speaker 1: just generally, right, I think as Americans, people don't realize
Speaker 1: the benefit of the decades of your genetics being like
Speaker 1: having an American infrastructure behind it, what that does for
Speaker 1: your health outcomes over the years, because it's very clear
Speaker 1: in America the people who don't have easy access to healthcare,
Speaker 1: especially people of color, their health outcomes are much different
Speaker 1: than people who have grown up generationally you know, middle
Speaker 1: class or just in just out of poverty. Um. And
Speaker 1: to think that that would apply to other places is
Speaker 1: like totally absurd and takes for granted, like the process
Speaker 1: to which you even become something here. Yeah. And on
Speaker 1: top of that, like the dissonance of people saying like, oh,
Speaker 1: well I didn't get vaccinated and I never got like
Speaker 1: the momps, And it's like, well, yeah, because everyone around
Speaker 1: you got fucking vaccinated, Like what are you talking about?
Speaker 1: What I thought we had to get those like for school,
Speaker 1: like vaccines. Yeah. And there's a thing that always makes
Speaker 1: me cry. And I remember Dr Carter. He would always
Speaker 1: give me a lollipop that he would I remember this
Speaker 1: as a kid. He would take the thing off for
Speaker 1: me and then give it to me, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I wanted to eat this at home, and now you
Speaker 1: give me an unwrapped lollipop And what a loss of
Speaker 1: your freedoms? Yeah, and that's why I'm anti VAXX. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I just the only reason I got vaccinated so I
Speaker 1: can go to the Laker game philosophically though, you know,
Speaker 1: y'all know where I stand and for the free truck nuts. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and we'll be right back
Speaker 1: to talk a little bit more about Cruella and Instagram Okay,
Speaker 1: let's uh, we're back. Sorry. I didn't mean to just
Speaker 1: say okay, we are back, just like okay, sorry, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Sorry for apological the apology apology accepted, sorry
Speaker 1: for saying sorry. So you know, in I don't know
Speaker 1: if everyone remembers. Remember, there's like the discussion of like,
Speaker 1: does should Instagram have likes? Any likes? Are likes poison?
Speaker 1: Are they poisoning everyone's minds? And like, what are we
Speaker 1: gonna do about it? Well, for the last two years,
Speaker 1: Instagram has been doing, I guess a lot of research
Speaker 1: and testing to figure out like what the best outcome is.
Speaker 1: And it's a little anticlimactic. This is from a post
Speaker 1: that they just put out. It says, quote, what we
Speaker 1: heard from people and experts was that not seeing light
Speaker 1: counts was beneficial for some and annoying to others, particularly
Speaker 1: because people use the light counts to get a sense
Speaker 1: of what's trending or popular. So we're going to give
Speaker 1: you the choice, meaning as a user, if you for you,
Speaker 1: it's better to be like yo, I don't give a
Speaker 1: funk and I don't Actually I'll be more free if
Speaker 1: I can just post and not be tethered to like
Speaker 1: this idea of a numerical like count based on what
Speaker 1: I've submitted to the earth from my own brain and soul.
Speaker 1: You can turn the light counts off, and then for
Speaker 1: others if you if you just have to know and
Speaker 1: you've got to know what's popular, you can keep them on.
Speaker 1: But it turns out like when this is announced, it
Speaker 1: was super polarizing, like from people really being like talk
Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, I thought I think I would. I
Speaker 1: will probably turn it off. I mean I haven't posted
Speaker 1: to my grid in like a year or something, but
Speaker 1: I probably would do that because I've always just had
Speaker 1: I think my relationship social media is like morphed in
Speaker 1: a weird way over time where I'm like, let's like,
Speaker 1: I feel like we've been hearing rumors about the likes
Speaker 1: disappearing for the past five years. I've never seen it happen,
Speaker 1: or I don't know if it's something that's still coming,
Speaker 1: this mythological thing that would happen. I have now adopted,
Speaker 1: probably in my geriatric age, the idea, the very very
Speaker 1: clear idea that Instagram and social media is so bad
Speaker 1: for our mental health and our hearts and our souls
Speaker 1: and you know, after watching that movie The Social Dilemma
Speaker 1: that everyonet you know talks about the idea of like
Speaker 1: children getting because like kids get Instagram at like ten
Speaker 1: in ship now, and you know, they're sort of value
Speaker 1: and currency is so visually measured at a tender age
Speaker 1: where everyone is so ugly and uncomfortable and like just
Speaker 1: feeling so already that way, and to have it just
Speaker 1: I don't know, I think it's really sad. It made
Speaker 1: me really sad and worried for kids that like even
Speaker 1: more than it already is in that developmental stage that
Speaker 1: it's like all our value is outsourced and not coming
Speaker 1: from insider. So it really worries me deeply. Well, this
Speaker 1: is the thing. So there have been in the last
Speaker 1: few years a lot of research has gone into this,
Speaker 1: like a lot because that again, I think everyone was
Speaker 1: on some level being like, yeah, I know, I feel
Speaker 1: this doesn't feel good all the time. But it turns
Speaker 1: out there was a just at the first thing did
Speaker 1: a thirty year study of teenagers and technology to just
Speaker 1: sort of see like what this intersection of smartphones, social networks,
Speaker 1: and changes in mental health work. And there's another one
Speaker 1: too in the New York Times I was just looking
Speaker 1: at what the effect is on the you know, mental
Speaker 1: health of children when they're interacting with these things, and
Speaker 1: they found that there isn't It doesn't move the needle
Speaker 1: that much. Like there's a lot more factors that affect
Speaker 1: that going into it than the social media itself. Now
Speaker 1: they're not saying relax, it's fine. They're like, it's a
Speaker 1: it is a spectrum of results, but it's they said,
Speaker 1: through their research, very hard to pinpoint like say, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's the connection right there, and I think it's because yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I just don't think that's true. I think
Speaker 1: just I just don't think that's true. And I would
Speaker 1: be very curious to see, like for whoever's outcome that
Speaker 1: was determined by whose results those were, because it's just
Speaker 1: so clear, Like if you just talk to anyone on
Speaker 1: earth and say, Okay, how do you feel when you
Speaker 1: go on Instagram? And then when you get off do
Speaker 1: you feel better having looked at it? No, almost everyone
Speaker 1: would say like, no, I don't feel great after, even
Speaker 1: if it's very low level, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: there's some so I mean I think that's the truth,
Speaker 1: to be honest, that's you you know, what I mean.
Speaker 1: I think. I also think there's something to the environment
Speaker 1: because poor kids don't have smartphones and their outcomes are
Speaker 1: different to like based on what your emotional socio economic
Speaker 1: environment is like when you're a kid who has a
Speaker 1: lot of an effect on like how you navigate life.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I do. But I definitely agree with you
Speaker 1: Blair that on some level there is like some slight
Speaker 1: debt I don't know, And I think maybe this is
Speaker 1: this could be generational or just because when you look
Speaker 1: at the world in similar ways that like it does
Speaker 1: have an effect from like it did, I feel like
Speaker 1: a slight deficit sometimes on like on some level. Well,
Speaker 1: it's also always just a thing about even inadvertently without
Speaker 1: realizing it, unconsciously work in almost steady, ceaseless state of
Speaker 1: consuming instead of being in our own like uh, singular
Speaker 1: energy like it's I don't know, I find it. I
Speaker 1: find it alarming. Yeah, but I think that's why I
Speaker 1: think people have over the years you've especially on this show,
Speaker 1: we hear constantly how everyone says social media is overrated
Speaker 1: with some connection to it being like it doesn't do it.
Speaker 1: I used to be so annoyed when I would see
Speaker 1: tweets or like by people like shooting on social media.
Speaker 1: I would be like, just get off it then, But
Speaker 1: then and now, especially after seeing that that movie, it
Speaker 1: really scared me for young girls, and like that two
Speaker 1: hundred percent increase in suicides or something like that really
Speaker 1: freaked me out. And also I think all those um
Speaker 1: filters for faces are really scary for young kids, Like
Speaker 1: we're all just morphing into like homogenized like Instagram face.
Speaker 1: It's it's scary, I think now that I've bummed out everyone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I I don't really know. I mean, I I agree
Speaker 1: with you Blair that, especially with body image stuff, it
Speaker 1: is so like pervasive in a way that feels like, well,
Speaker 1: there's like how could you possibly deny that, you know
Speaker 1: where it's whatever, it's the monkeys pop of Like the
Speaker 1: connectivity to the world is so much bigger, but the
Speaker 1: ways to like target people younger and younger is bigger.
Speaker 1: I don't, I mean, But but then it's like, I
Speaker 1: guess for this decision, as far as this Instagram decision goes,
Speaker 1: it makes sense to me that you could turn it
Speaker 1: on or off. Where I feel for so many of us,
Speaker 1: like I'm I'm glad these studies are being done, but
Speaker 1: for for so many of us, unfortunately, I think the
Speaker 1: damage is kind of done, and like some of us
Speaker 1: are going to be able to improve our relationship towards
Speaker 1: social media, but like most people who grew up online,
Speaker 1: like it just does maybe this is a bummer too,
Speaker 1: But it's like, I honestly don't think that my relationship
Speaker 1: with social media is going to get much better for
Speaker 1: as as long as I have the career that I
Speaker 1: do and I like can't not be on it, I
Speaker 1: don't see it improving. And so it's like, yeah, it
Speaker 1: would be nice to shut off likes every once in
Speaker 1: a while, but also it's like I'll probably turn them
Speaker 1: back on I it's you know, for I feel like
Speaker 1: generationally there's been a lot of damage, and what I
Speaker 1: would hope is that there are like options and restrictions
Speaker 1: put on social media that can prevent damage like that
Speaker 1: for kids who are like growing up online inevitably right now.
Speaker 1: And then I feel, yeah, like millennials and gen z,
Speaker 1: it's it's like we were kind of raised in the
Speaker 1: wild West of social media, and I feel we'll just
Speaker 1: continue to see the effects of that as time goes on.
Speaker 1: But honestly, like if all of social media changed overnight
Speaker 1: in a way that is like, oh, this is gonna
Speaker 1: be so much healthier for you, I feel like I
Speaker 1: would panic, Like I don't know what I would do.
Speaker 1: I like it is, so it's like whatever, you know
Speaker 1: you I like, I guess my first social media platform
Speaker 1: was like my Space, And I remember like counting comments
Speaker 1: on my profile pictures when I was like eleven or
Speaker 1: twelve years old, and like that's just how you. That's
Speaker 1: and and and it starts with kids younger and younger,
Speaker 1: and I don't know there's no easy solution for it
Speaker 1: because and I think I think that's what's interesting about
Speaker 1: this function is like rather than trying to as a
Speaker 1: platform determine what's best, they can just say, look, look, dude,
Speaker 1: you can there are options here to like have an
Speaker 1: experience the way you want it, or if you get
Speaker 1: really turned up on seeing the numbers next to the thing,
Speaker 1: then go ahead and knock yourself out. Yeah, to everyone's point,
Speaker 1: I think everyone on some level has been examining their
Speaker 1: own relationships to social media and like what that does
Speaker 1: for their themselves and what that may mean for like
Speaker 1: reinforcing a sense of identity or feeling good about what
Speaker 1: you do, and then you just figure out what maybe
Speaker 1: I don't need it maybe, And I think to your point, Blare,
Speaker 1: like we live off of these fucking screens, man, Like
Speaker 1: we don't live on Twitter, we don't live on Instagram.
Speaker 1: And I know some people do or think that everything
Speaker 1: that happens there is their life. But realizing like to
Speaker 1: be in your own physical body and like you know,
Speaker 1: enjoying that and finding a way to pivot off of that,
Speaker 1: I think it's been for me personally a fantastic thing,
Speaker 1: you know, like I could ride a bike and ship
Speaker 1: deep into trying to dive back into my body. Especially
Speaker 1: in Quarantine, I really did renegotiate my entire relationship to
Speaker 1: social media, and you know that's always an ongoing process.
Speaker 1: But like I think in the beginning of Quarantine, I
Speaker 1: took my first two week break in like eight years
Speaker 1: or something, and it was like my brain completely just
Speaker 1: like like regenerated. It was just like it felt like
Speaker 1: it was like gas, like when you come up from underwater.
Speaker 1: It was like getting air for the first time. And um,
Speaker 1: now what I do is I basically only use it
Speaker 1: from my laptop, and I um deleted from my phones,
Speaker 1: but the for the during the day and unless I
Speaker 1: have to repost something that I am forced to download
Speaker 1: the app, but that has been How many times have
Speaker 1: you downloaded and deleted? Redounded? Because oh my, I do
Speaker 1: it every day. Yeah, I love it. Yeah, you're like, alright,
Speaker 1: just one small barrier though, for me to take back
Speaker 1: some of my goddamn freedom because I'm always you know,
Speaker 1: we do it unconsciously. It's like I realized like half
Speaker 1: the time that I'm looking at it, it's just like, um,
Speaker 1: some habit. It's not like I consciously thought, you know,
Speaker 1: what I'd really like to do right now, have a
Speaker 1: look at it Instagram. You know. It was just an
Speaker 1: unconscious action. Yeah. It is such like a individual journey
Speaker 1: of like navigating like how is this going to be
Speaker 1: able to? Like how am I going to have a
Speaker 1: life outside of this? And what are I don't know
Speaker 1: because I know people who love it and aren't like
Speaker 1: based to me, seem completely free of the ills of
Speaker 1: social media, and I'm like, huh, how are you are
Speaker 1: you lying? They could be lying, Yeah, they could be.
Speaker 1: But you know, sometimes you can tell with someone's like
Speaker 1: low key like spooky and sad underneath it all. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean if I wasn't a comedian, I would delete
Speaker 1: it today. I would delete it today, babes, I will
Speaker 1: be gone, disappeared, you'd never see me again. But you're
Speaker 1: more than a comedian player, I wouldn't. That's like I
Speaker 1: wouldn't delete. I don't know. I feel like there are
Speaker 1: some ways where it's like social media has like fucked
Speaker 1: my brain up irrevocably, and then other ways where I'm like,
Speaker 1: there are ways that I communicate better through those channels
Speaker 1: or like talk to people I feel like more cogently
Speaker 1: or like whatever, talk to people you'd never be able
Speaker 1: to meet or talk. I don't know. It's so it's
Speaker 1: so tricky. And then I also feel like there is
Speaker 1: this pressure to like perform having a better relationship with
Speaker 1: social media. Then you actually do, like I know that,
Speaker 1: like anytime someone's like whatever, posting to Instagram about how
Speaker 1: they're not going to be on Instagram as much, and
Speaker 1: then I'm just like, I think you're lying, Like I
Speaker 1: don't know, it's it's so that's what I think. That's
Speaker 1: why it's so fucked up is because it's this way
Speaker 1: where you think you can read like people can now
Speaker 1: see who you are and derived from that like a truth,
Speaker 1: and then your even questions like is this performative? Is
Speaker 1: it not? Because? And I think that's sort of like
Speaker 1: the thing, the sort of momentum of questioning or inner
Speaker 1: monologue that happens and I'm like, oh my god, I
Speaker 1: kid like I just wanted to look at a picture
Speaker 1: and now I'm like, is this person like well we
Speaker 1: I mean the truth is they'll even we like download
Speaker 1: ideas of what is acceptable and unacceptable through our mirror neurons,
Speaker 1: like that's our first access point in psyche, through our
Speaker 1: rentin us. So it's like, I mean, these things do
Speaker 1: have a big impact on us with subconsciously without us
Speaker 1: even realizing it. Like when I see the this is
Speaker 1: just a small example, but when I see women posting
Speaker 1: pictures like with their cellulite and stuff, like, I'm like,
Speaker 1: that is fucking cool. It seems like a really small thing,
Speaker 1: but they're doing it deliberately, and I'm like, oh, that
Speaker 1: makes me feel more comfortable with myself. Then when I'm
Speaker 1: following only airbrushed models, you know what I mean, or
Speaker 1: just I mean, that's just one example of like many, many,
Speaker 1: many different facets of it. But it is a weird,
Speaker 1: very weird thing because I think that's the version, like
Speaker 1: the insidious part is like the manicured version of life
Speaker 1: that is unattainable and really not close to reality. And
Speaker 1: then people who want to like sort of shift the
Speaker 1: paradigm and be like things you need to be more honest,
Speaker 1: like rather than fantasy town because it's okay, let's talk
Speaker 1: about somebody from the Disney first, someone who I don't know,
Speaker 1: I just thought was somebody with a cool haircut and
Speaker 1: wild behind the wheel. But Cruela of Ville, the Cruella
Speaker 1: film came out over the weekend, and yeah, people seem
Speaker 1: to be enjoying it. It's not getting like, you know,
Speaker 1: panned or anything, and it's a It's an interesting moment
Speaker 1: because I think on some level I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: they're doing more origin stories. But you know J M. R.
Speaker 1: Writer sort of went down of how this evolution of
Speaker 1: Corrolla Deville went down. You're like, oh, yeah, maybe this
Speaker 1: humanized version is something useful considering how you know, Disney
Speaker 1: has a habit of being like, oh my god, evil
Speaker 1: lady or coded gay evil guy, what are we gonna do?
Speaker 1: So this keeps an opportunity for them to possibly do something. Now,
Speaker 1: I haven't seen the film, but I do we do
Speaker 1: know what has happened before. So no spoilers, you don't.
Speaker 1: This is a spoiler free discussion of the Cruella film.
Speaker 1: So a couple of things popped up to jam was
Speaker 1: that first, I think, and this is true for a
Speaker 1: lot of kids that like, even though Cruella seems like
Speaker 1: what why would people like do? Are people really remembering
Speaker 1: Kuella Deville like to be its own character. There's a
Speaker 1: thing though that like kids are attracted to the villains
Speaker 1: like we like like when you're young, there's something interesting
Speaker 1: or you're like, oh, like there's something more energizing when
Speaker 1: the villain comes on. They always have the best songs too.
Speaker 1: That's true actually straight up, the villain songs are always
Speaker 1: the best one. Which who's your favorite villain song? You
Speaker 1: also need polarity to make the good guy good. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: But it's something I think about, like that sort of
Speaker 1: like fuck you sense of power that a super villain
Speaker 1: has or something that's like yeah, cool, like I bet
Speaker 1: they could eat cookie Crisp out the fucking box without problems.
Speaker 1: The second thing interesting and Jamie I know you're loving this.
Speaker 1: The director who's directing Cruella, Jamie Mr Gillespie himself the
Speaker 1: director of Itonia a k my favorite movie ever. And
Speaker 1: uh that's why I was like, damn, I I really
Speaker 1: am going to go see Cruella, aren't I? Because I
Speaker 1: have to support Mr Aitania's work, And you know, it
Speaker 1: seems like this could be a it's similar story, you
Speaker 1: know on some level, like that guy Paul Walter Houser
Speaker 1: who played the what's his name, Sean what's his name
Speaker 1: in Ionia? He's he plays one of the goons in Cruella. Okay,
Speaker 1: there's the Ionia universe is really at play in cruel Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm excited for this movie. I can't wait to see it. Blair,
Speaker 1: What did you did you like Cruella de Villa as
Speaker 1: it like when the animated the animation or the animated
Speaker 1: version came out. Yeah? I loved it. I mean I
Speaker 1: loved all those Disney movies. I was actually just like
Speaker 1: remarking about this the other day on how actually like
Speaker 1: dark and sinister. A lot of those like murderous plot
Speaker 1: lines where like when you think of Bambi, you're like,
Speaker 1: holy sh it, it's just like the heaviest plot line
Speaker 1: to point in the psyche of a child like you
Speaker 1: could ever see. But I I also I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: these are badass stories. I like ulla Honestly, I'm not lying.
Speaker 1: I saw a bandy fucking once. Okay, we had that
Speaker 1: VHS and that soft ass case you know back in
Speaker 1: the day, and the Disney movies all came in that
Speaker 1: padded case because I guess likes and I remember yo,
Speaker 1: the second the Mango capt I was in tears, shattered
Speaker 1: and like I made my mom turn it off and
Speaker 1: that was it. I couldn't even go past that. I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm off this mom. I think for the
Speaker 1: I think for a lot of children, like especially our generation,
Speaker 1: that was that moment was the first moment of realizing
Speaker 1: like parental mortality that in The Lion King. Yeah, we're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure, The Lion King was there's my friends who
Speaker 1: have kids, like I heard. I was like catching up
Speaker 1: with with friends from home the other day and they
Speaker 1: were like trying talking about like, oh, when are you
Speaker 1: going to be comfortable showing your kid The Lion King?
Speaker 1: Because of like the whole move Faucel thing where I
Speaker 1: was like Oh, my parents didn't think and twice they're
Speaker 1: just like life is short, watch it now. But I
Speaker 1: used costumes from roller rinks, right right? So I think
Speaker 1: I turned out fine. I think so, I mean, did
Speaker 1: you stop at the moment you saw it? Because I
Speaker 1: think there's version I. For whatever reason, the Bamby thing,
Speaker 1: I could not go on as I just could not
Speaker 1: go on. But I think maybe because Bamby was my
Speaker 1: first Disney based trauma. When I saw a lion king,
Speaker 1: I was a little bit older and had already like
Speaker 1: had like family members passed away and had dealt with
Speaker 1: something that I was like, that's sad, but I didn't
Speaker 1: maybe it didn't hit me as hard. The other thing
Speaker 1: is this whole thing with Corella Deville. It's a derivative
Speaker 1: work from a book that was written by Dodie Smith.
Speaker 1: A Hunter one Dalmatians. Oh, and I for the record,
Speaker 1: I love the animated series. I I My first dog
Speaker 1: was a Dalmatian that we bought in Simar. That was like,
Speaker 1: these dogs are so inbred. But that was like that.
Speaker 1: I remember my dad saying that, And I learned what
Speaker 1: inbreeding was at six years old because my dad he's
Speaker 1: like and I'm like what, He's like, they're inbred. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, what does that mean. He's like, it means
Speaker 1: the brothers and the sisters or the mom they all
Speaker 1: have to have sex to make the new ones, to
Speaker 1: keep the dogs looking that way. And let's bring our
Speaker 1: dog home. And now I'm a guy who hosts a
Speaker 1: podcast and talks about used costumes. FM roller ranks. In
Speaker 1: my opinion, honestly, I want to give you a like
Speaker 1: a kudos, thank you, thank you, thank you. So this
Speaker 1: book by Dodie Smith. You know, it's been argued that Smith,
Speaker 1: who herself had no children and it was a successful author,
Speaker 1: she had adopt a male pseudonym just to get in
Speaker 1: the business, which I've never heard of. This what someone
Speaker 1: faking it to get in. I've never heard of this.
Speaker 1: So she had to use a pseudonym get in and
Speaker 1: then made Cruella essentially a satire of male paranoia that
Speaker 1: there could be this independent, wealthy, rebellious woman with no
Speaker 1: children and therefore must be pure evil, and was sort
Speaker 1: of like the wink of that character. But you know,
Speaker 1: the epic Bros of nineteen fifty six, we're not as
Speaker 1: clear on getting that nuance because once Disney bought the
Speaker 1: I P and gave it over to a group of
Speaker 1: guys who like they called like the Nine Old Men,
Speaker 1: Like not even a joke, like that's what this group
Speaker 1: was called. That turned the character completely like on its
Speaker 1: head and made it something completely different and just being like, oh,
Speaker 1: she's an evil woman and she's wacky and rich. So
Speaker 1: oh no, kids, you've seen this. Yeah, just like any
Speaker 1: I mean, that's like Disney's full of like villains that
Speaker 1: are like women over forty that like are not mothers
Speaker 1: that have just stopped breastfeeding moments before the scene. Like
Speaker 1: it's so yeah. It is like in the same thing
Speaker 1: happened in the nineties six remake Glenn Close, Right, isn't that?
Speaker 1: Isn't that the ninety was that ninety Yeah, that was
Speaker 1: nineties six. I rewatched that movie not too long ago.
Speaker 1: It's bizarre, but Glenn Close is really good. It sounds
Speaker 1: like because in this one it wasn't about being like
Speaker 1: a wealthy, independent woman who had no children. This version was, oh,
Speaker 1: successful women are fucking dangerous suddenly. Relativeville is like this
Speaker 1: fashion executive and right, it makes like evil like these
Speaker 1: speeches that are about quote the talent killing dulness of
Speaker 1: marriage and child rearing. Oh wow, that's a little on
Speaker 1: the fucking nose bone. And then even the reviews are like,
Speaker 1: we're calling the film out is quote for it's pretty
Speaker 1: retrogressive tone where everyone's like what is what? What happened
Speaker 1: to this thing? And then there's like the other thing,
Speaker 1: the road rage. You know, I think a lot of
Speaker 1: people think remember from the film or the animated version
Speaker 1: when she's driving around that like dope OUs hot rod
Speaker 1: and ship and she's got like the demonic face and
Speaker 1: all this ship going on. So that was the other thing,
Speaker 1: a huge thing that a lot of people like. This
Speaker 1: is um, I think this speels like if it's the
Speaker 1: Nine Old Men. Perhaps this has something to do with
Speaker 1: the anti suffragette movement, where you know, essentially for women
Speaker 1: looking for who are trying to have the right to vote.
Speaker 1: The arguments were like like after the fact, like these people,
Speaker 1: these women want to have the right to vote and
Speaker 1: all this only they're The whole idea of women driving
Speaker 1: cars was like a political symbol could even drive. It's like, oh,
Speaker 1: these brods are hysterical, look at them, Look at him
Speaker 1: to get behind the wheel. It's wacky. You see what
Speaker 1: happens when a woman is mobile. I remember it's so
Speaker 1: funny because both the Henchman Goon guys and her. I
Speaker 1: recall so deeply feeling so much anxiety when both of
Speaker 1: them were in the driving scenes because they're like semi
Speaker 1: flying out of the cars the entire time in the cars,
Speaker 1: like going like that in all the scenes. It was
Speaker 1: just chaos. I mean, Laurie is one of the guys too,
Speaker 1: in the nineties one. He's like one of the what's
Speaker 1: from a call it the Bad the Bad Guys? Right, Oh,
Speaker 1: this is an all star cast. Um. So yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: like looking at all this now, I haven't seen it,
Speaker 1: and I'm definitely down to see it because I remember
Speaker 1: even seeing the trailer when it came. I was like, what,
Speaker 1: it's kind of like hot topic late adds like aesthetic,
Speaker 1: but I was I was down with that then and
Speaker 1: I'm down with it now. So stripe Pants, you were, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, this is a little bit Jack Skellington.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, dude, like dual tone and then it's
Speaker 1: like all the merch from this movie is says like
Speaker 1: one hundred percent devil like ship like that. I kind
Speaker 1: of missed that era of graphic design. They're trying to
Speaker 1: bring it back. Hell yeah, so you know, we'll see
Speaker 1: what happens. Uh for people have seen it, you know,
Speaker 1: let us know your thoughts. We've we've heard mixed things,
Speaker 1: but I'm curious to see what they how they treat
Speaker 1: this character and the depiction of Cruela. It's time around,
Speaker 1: so I think of you all right, we'll see though,
Speaker 1: we'll see see these more reasons to go that. That's
Speaker 1: another thing I want to do. Go to a movie soon?
Speaker 1: He too. I haven't gone. And also I'm excited to
Speaker 1: see m A. Stone and I think she's really talented.
Speaker 1: And I recently watched Crazy Stupid Love, which happens to
Speaker 1: be one of the movies besides Forgetting Sarah Marshall that
Speaker 1: I have seen the most times, because they just used
Speaker 1: to like play it over and over. Were you on
Speaker 1: Tami when we were talking about that, like recently about No,
Speaker 1: we we just did a Bechtel cost episode of Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think handed they always just talk about that scene
Speaker 1: or he's like, dude, don't sip from the straw like
Speaker 1: it looks like you're what do you say, like you're
Speaker 1: sucking on a tiny pecker or something when he's making
Speaker 1: it all homophobic to use a straw and a cocktail. Yeah, fellas,
Speaker 1: is it good to use a straw? Like? All right? Well, Blair,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us and coming through
Speaker 1: with again your energy or wonderful sensibility and perspective. Where
Speaker 1: can people find you and follow you? Supports you? My
Speaker 1: good maas, how do you my best friend, my best
Speaker 1: looking bro dog? Okay, well you can support me if
Speaker 1: um you also want to be my friend on my
Speaker 1: social media, which, as I have told you, I am
Speaker 1: a huge fan of and it's at Blair Saki B
Speaker 1: L A I R S O C C I And
Speaker 1: that's on Twitter and Instagram. And then the other thing
Speaker 1: that I want to tell you guys about my zy
Speaker 1: gang that I love. I will be hosting another virtual
Speaker 1: breathwork event on um June twenty two, and I've done
Speaker 1: two of them before and they've been really cool. So
Speaker 1: if you want to have a bodacious time and lose
Speaker 1: your mind, get your ticket and my LinkedIn bio. There
Speaker 1: it is. And is there anything from your social media
Speaker 1: that you would like to shout out as something that
Speaker 1: gave you a pleasant reaction? That you would like to
Speaker 1: share with the list. Oh sure, yeah, you know, I
Speaker 1: brought a tweet for you. This is from my my
Speaker 1: friend Amy Miller, hilarious comedian and you know, simple but
Speaker 1: made me laugh. She so she wrote a lady at
Speaker 1: Target that just looked at me, pointed to her full car,
Speaker 1: and went, I don't need any of this ship. Some
Speaker 1: days you meet an icon. I yo, no joke. I
Speaker 1: called that tweet out yesterday because I love this. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, we love Amy. That ship just makes me
Speaker 1: laugh so hard because I just love just just that
Speaker 1: person too. So we all recognize ourselves. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: need any of this ship. And you're like, I don't
Speaker 1: know why you're telling me that, but yeah, alright cool,
Speaker 1: Like at okay, Jamie, how about you thank you so
Speaker 1: much for you know, being around and co hosting and
Speaker 1: helping right this ship. Hey, listen, I'm glad. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: let Jack out of my freezer in a minute. Really
Speaker 1: really nice to trap him in my freezer for the
Speaker 1: last couple of hours. I hope he had a good break.
Speaker 1: Yeah you can. I'm all the regular places on Instagram
Speaker 1: and Twitter being very unhealthy. Probably, uh, you can listen
Speaker 1: to the Bechtel Cast every week. I have a new
Speaker 1: podcast about Kathy Comics coming out at the end of
Speaker 1: June that is I don't know. Yeah, I'm finishing it
Speaker 1: and it's been harder to do than I thought. There's
Speaker 1: a lot going on with the Kathy Comics. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be a can't miss series. Like everything you do, and
Speaker 1: we can prop we prop our lonely butts up by
Speaker 1: having you on the Jamie coming through and Blair can
Speaker 1: just cover from my biocrity. Please. I'm so this is
Speaker 1: such a good crew today. I'm so happy that we
Speaker 1: all got to like hang out and talk. Yeah, I know,
Speaker 1: it was so great to see you guys. You know,
Speaker 1: I love you both so much and admire you and
Speaker 1: your work and what you bring to the world in
Speaker 1: your spirits. Oh you know what, we might have to
Speaker 1: all link up for a movie. Hell yeah, let's all
Speaker 1: go see Cruella. Yeah, oh man, that would be dope. Actually, yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll put a pin in that, because you know, the
Speaker 1: thing is, you want to go like I I when
Speaker 1: I go, I wanted to be with you know, like
Speaker 1: people who are sort of on a seem like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're doing this for the first time too. So you
Speaker 1: got a city walk, get a hot dog movie, me
Speaker 1: straight to my North Hollywood heart. You know we're going
Speaker 1: to city walk. You know we're going. Do you walk? Donut?
Speaker 1: Little stale? My body responded to the idea of going
Speaker 1: to city walk with friends. I was like, I know
Speaker 1: what's wild? You know what's tell the look l as
Speaker 1: I gang. You know, maybe there'll be an epic thing,
Speaker 1: like a crowd of twenty people? Is that city walk
Speaker 1: Bay It's a movement. And also, Jamie, is there a
Speaker 1: tweet that you like something you can call out for us?
Speaker 1: I was going to shout out a moon a Myer
Speaker 1: treat she's at muna m u n a underscore meyer
Speaker 1: Uh tweet is you're gonna love the Friends Reunion if
Speaker 1: you enjoy watching people in their fifties struggle to remember
Speaker 1: stuff that happened in their twenties for two hours straight,
Speaker 1: which was I had I had The Friends Reunion on
Speaker 1: in the background yesterday, and that was kind of the
Speaker 1: gist of it. It was just like a bunch of Yeah.
Speaker 1: It was just the friends being like, hey, do you
Speaker 1: remember this? And then the other person is like, no,
Speaker 1: but I believe you asked just kind of the whole thing.
Speaker 1: What the fuck? Well, Hey, I'm I'm sure like if
Speaker 1: you're a hardcore fan like things, I'm really into like
Speaker 1: merely just seeing the people together say words. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I like, yeah, reunion special vibes are are fun. But
Speaker 1: what it's been but it's been like twenty years. They're like,
Speaker 1: I don't really remember that, but it's nice to see you.
Speaker 1: Some tweets that I'm liking. It's it's really just one
Speaker 1: and I just thought it was really fun funny, but
Speaker 1: it's really it's it's a very again. This joke is
Speaker 1: literally a Venn diagram, and it's only going to make
Speaker 1: sense to this Venn diagram of people, which is you've
Speaker 1: seen the Sopranos and you know, and you've listened to
Speaker 1: the Olivia Rodrico album. Um, but it's a Venn diagram
Speaker 1: with Livia Soprano on one side and Olivia Rodrigo on
Speaker 1: the other, and Olivia Soprano is Tony's mother who is
Speaker 1: a very miserable character. And then the the overlap of
Speaker 1: the Venn diagram says, well, good for you, you look
Speaker 1: happy and healthy, not me. If you ever care to ask,
Speaker 1: good for you. You're doing great out there without me,
Speaker 1: like a damn sociopath. And it's just this image of
Speaker 1: Olivia in her bed and you can just see it anyway. Wonderful,
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Speaker 1: is where we will all sorry, linked off to the
Speaker 1: song that we will rod add on and our believe Um,
Speaker 1: let me just get it heat, sorry. One Seeking should
Speaker 1: just be a driver's license for like three weeks in
Speaker 1: a row, just on a loop to it until you
Speaker 1: listen to it. This is actually a great album from
Speaker 1: a wonderful combination of musicians. Here. Now, if if you're
Speaker 1: not into you know, the sixties seventies jazz thing, you
Speaker 1: might not know about Lonnie Smith, George Benson, Ron Carter,
Speaker 1: Joe Lovano, but this is an album called Acrodesia, and
Speaker 1: this track is called apex Um and it's just you know,
Speaker 1: great easy listening. Just to play break it up a
Speaker 1: little bit. I've been playing a lot of remixes, so
Speaker 1: I want to play something old and like with human beings,
Speaker 1: blowing wind through instruments U and playing instruments as well.
Speaker 1: So we'll go out on that, come back in a
Speaker 1: little bit for trends, and then we'll see you later.
Speaker 1: Have a great day, be some blest things and we'll
Speaker 1: talk to you then. Bye bye bye m