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Speaker 1: was your pivoting off that tweet I was talking about
Speaker 1: yesterday where you know an elder millennial if you just
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Speaker 1: from a can. And I don't know how people go
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Speaker 1: hold on, I don't know how are you coming a camp?
Speaker 1: I might be too old, you know, But you remember
Speaker 1: the presidents of the United States of America. Did they
Speaker 1: do uh lum lump? Yeah, I know lump. I didn't.
Speaker 1: I think I was out after lump. And like when
Speaker 1: they would pop up on MTV, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's like as the Love was a catchy song that
Speaker 1: was almost like weaponized catchy, Like it was so catchy
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Speaker 1: by one of the very faces on Mountain, Zepemore The
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Speaker 1: watched Grown Ups two Sex in the City to once
Speaker 1: a week for a year till death do us Blart,
Speaker 1: which is going to be going on for the rest
Speaker 1: of his life. I believe once a year he will
Speaker 1: be watching Paul Blart two until he expires. Um. He
Speaker 1: is the hilarious stand up comedian who you've probably seen
Speaker 1: making fun of American accents on his comedy Central. What
Speaker 1: the fuck the funk is up with that? Bro? Uh?
Speaker 1: He is the billion and talented guy Montgomery. Wow, it's
Speaker 1: it's all true. I just think you guys talk funny.
Speaker 1: Obviously obviously not to you, but to me. To me,
Speaker 1: what's the fun what's the funniest sound Americans make? I? Uh,
Speaker 1: you're always like, oh, I don't know, I don't know. Oh.
Speaker 1: I love about accent is saying like when chips kind
Speaker 1: of becomes chops. Yeah, like any of that ours that
Speaker 1: you know, Australian key we sort of sound. Yeah, those
Speaker 1: are my favorites, but I guess it's just our Yeah,
Speaker 1: we swapped a lot of eyes for use. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: don't even know we're doing it. And when we do it,
Speaker 1: no one don't hear polices it. We'll just sort of
Speaker 1: we know what each other is saying. Get it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: doesn't sound odd to the act. I hadn't. I hadn't
Speaker 1: thought about it. But without traveling in our borders being close,
Speaker 1: there's been a lot less um sort of teasing about
Speaker 1: hilarious cadence. Right. You know, we've all been striding around
Speaker 1: the country talking confidently and I get an email. It
Speaker 1: says you want to come in the day. He's like guys,
Speaker 1: and I say, sure, that sounds nice. I'm sure that
Speaker 1: won't be damaging for my self esteem. Right, and here
Speaker 1: we are, but we've had enough of your confident speaking.
Speaker 1: You built out here nice cock. Wow. That's why people
Speaker 1: get New Zealanders to say nice dick. The belief is
Speaker 1: that we're describing apion. That's all. That's all Americans. Were
Speaker 1: you joking or now you're saying, like tourists come and
Speaker 1: and clown your accents on your land or not you
Speaker 1: but you know that where your people settled, uh people? Yeah, Yeah. Australians.
Speaker 1: Obviously Australians are like um, they're high school bullies. They're
Speaker 1: like Australia to Canada, so like so it is kind
Speaker 1: of true, like that relationship that they showed in Flight
Speaker 1: of the Concords. Yes, they love to ruffle our here
Speaker 1: and tell us it's all okay, and it was all okay.
Speaker 1: Comes over. Yeah, yeah, before they ruffled out here, it
Speaker 1: was fine. Oh man. Well, uh, it's so good to
Speaker 1: have you back on the Daily Zeitgeist. We're going to
Speaker 1: get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
Speaker 1: just a few of the things we're talking about. We're
Speaker 1: gonna talk about the right finally taking a stand against
Speaker 1: anti Semitism. Where where'd that come from. We're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about teaching American history accurately being a plot from the devil,
Speaker 1: and you know how how the Catholic Church is uh
Speaker 1: ghost busting that ship. We'll talk about the Olympics, the
Speaker 1: Japanese people do not want them there, and we'll we'll
Speaker 1: talk about why they're still happening. We'll talk about fans
Speaker 1: being back at sporting events at the movie theaters. So
Speaker 1: we'll talk about that plentymore. But first, guy, you know,
Speaker 1: we like to ask our guest, what's something from your
Speaker 1: search history? Oh yeah, you guys love asking your guests that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we love it. But you know, you know, I was
Speaker 1: doing this last night before I went to bid, and
Speaker 1: one of the most recent ones is horse idioms. I
Speaker 1: was riding a joke about horses, and then I realized
Speaker 1: there's so many horse idioms I could try and go
Speaker 1: on a run, and so I just I was just
Speaker 1: looking at a list of idioms about horses. Lead a
Speaker 1: horse to water. Don't look it in the mouth when
Speaker 1: you get it as a gift, which look a gift
Speaker 1: horse in the mouth. Yeah, don't look a gift horse
Speaker 1: in the mouth. But do did they just make up
Speaker 1: the word gift horse or is that is that a thing?
Speaker 1: I I actually could not trust the etymology of that,
Speaker 1: And you know, it's a it's a shame because the
Speaker 1: math is traditionally the most beautiful and detailed part of
Speaker 1: the gift horse. Yes, yeah, hold your horses, yes, do on.
Speaker 1: He lived to be about twenty years and they'll be
Speaker 1: gone before you're not, so hold him close. Yeah, as
Speaker 1: they drift off to sleep standing up. Yeah. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I I actually didn't want it using pretty much any
Speaker 1: of them, but I'm up to my gills with horse
Speaker 1: idioms up man in them. Yeah, mine would have been
Speaker 1: better than gills whatever. Like, I'm actually waiting for you
Speaker 1: to complete this joke, guy, because just knowing you're just
Speaker 1: mastery of words and you're just delivery, I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: just excited to hear you're writing a joke. It's about
Speaker 1: just getting deep on horse idiom. Yeah, we're there are
Speaker 1: too many horse idioms that you couldn't fit them all,
Speaker 1: and you didn't want to beat a dead horse. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't, come on, Jack, quit horsing around. We're trying
Speaker 1: to figure out what he's process. Okay, I can see
Speaker 1: the roof trains leaving the station. Yeah. The one, the
Speaker 1: one that I was zero did on was actually and
Speaker 1: one day I might post a clip online, was about
Speaker 1: straight from the horse's mouth. Yeah, we've got to shut
Speaker 1: up this gossiping horse gotting around secret exactly. So that's
Speaker 1: that's what we got too with that. And the one
Speaker 1: comedic take about about Donald Trump that everyone was like, yep,
Speaker 1: that's the right one. We can all stop was the
Speaker 1: horse in the hospital from right. We just need things
Speaker 1: put into the shape of horses for the human brain
Speaker 1: at the probably dating back to when we used to
Speaker 1: equate carp with how many there's a lot of horsepower
Speaker 1: on that on that joke construction there. It's so funny
Speaker 1: to come up with that metro when it was probably
Speaker 1: relevant and using no one induction of how powerful basis
Speaker 1: for comparison, Oh, seven hundred horses. You say it's so abstract. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that seems like it would be a real clusterfuck. If
Speaker 1: you tried to get seven hundred horses to pull something,
Speaker 1: they'd be going in different directions? What a mess? Why
Speaker 1: would just freaking people out? It was just the number
Speaker 1: of horses you're saying the horse powers like, I mean,
Speaker 1: you're getting about four horses here. I look, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Oh boy, who's gonna shoo them? And Oh I don't know?
Speaker 1: Actually I think, well, I think I'll stick to the wagon. Yeah, um,
Speaker 1: what is something you think is overrated? Guy? Ah man?
Speaker 1: Flat eggs? Flags every don't. I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: because I haven't left New Zealand or people just flying
Speaker 1: more of them, but I feel like so many people
Speaker 1: have got the New Zealand flag up at their house
Speaker 1: and I just whenever I see it, I always think, yeah,
Speaker 1: you got it the right one. I am also here right,
Speaker 1: it's happening to get I mean, yeah, you guys love
Speaker 1: your flag. Actually, I will say the great your flag
Speaker 1: has become something it's more complicated simple than it was.
Speaker 1: But the graphic design one thing that cannot be taken aways.
Speaker 1: You guys have a very good looking flag. I think
Speaker 1: that means that black if you neuralize me men in
Speaker 1: black style and then any contexts from what took away
Speaker 1: any context I bet the American flag would be like
Speaker 1: top ten flags in terms of like that's a that's
Speaker 1: an objectively good looking flag. Yeah, I think cool, we
Speaker 1: gotta we gotta stinker. I would probably be like down
Speaker 1: with like the Mozambique flag because I just love that
Speaker 1: has like an A K forty seven and like on
Speaker 1: it and ship and just like oh yeah, let's go Hereambique.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think, wait, so but the flag thing
Speaker 1: is that normal? Like is like around Anzac day you
Speaker 1: know your days you can there you fly a lot
Speaker 1: of flags and things like that. Yeah, yeah, the flag
Speaker 1: is it's representative here the way it is you know
Speaker 1: in a lot of countries. But I just you know,
Speaker 1: it's a sort of it's the day to day sort
Speaker 1: of just yeah, I always think, you know, I'm not
Speaker 1: getting that confused, but maybe some people are. Maybe I
Speaker 1: assume it's mostly like old wealthy people who need constant
Speaker 1: reminders of the country that they're in. But is that
Speaker 1: like is it is it tied to like sort of
Speaker 1: like how in America if you see someone loaded up
Speaker 1: on flags, you're like, this is probably some kind of
Speaker 1: no nationalist type, the same decent vibes, but you like
Speaker 1: just an old, nice person. It's not quite with the
Speaker 1: same vimen vigor. Like if you see have you see
Speaker 1: a lot of flags anyway, I always think it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this person feels strongly about things, but it's like our
Speaker 1: own sort of New Zealand version of it. It's it
Speaker 1: means that they're not totally chill, but they're still probably
Speaker 1: a bit chill, right there's um, you're gonna flag check. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just in the I'm in the market for some flags,
Speaker 1: the O'Brien family crest flag, because that's another thing that
Speaker 1: you see. I used to see a lot of like
Speaker 1: horse farms in Kentucky would be like people flying there
Speaker 1: like arms flag. I love that the horses and the
Speaker 1: flags and the whole thing. It's all telling to give
Speaker 1: the question. Yeah, it's all coming together, and there's a
Speaker 1: lot of idiomatic flags, the red flag, the white flag,
Speaker 1: checkered flag. Yeah. Yeah, but there's the Jersey Shore and
Speaker 1: even the part of the Jersey Shore that I go
Speaker 1: to that I I tend to argue is not is
Speaker 1: not the one that you see on the MTV special.
Speaker 1: There's full of kind you know, find people from the
Speaker 1: Philadelphia area, but there are so many flags and it's
Speaker 1: just American flag or eagles or it's almost always American flag.
Speaker 1: Where Eagles, the Philadelphia Eagles, NFL Eagles, and that's it. Like,
Speaker 1: it's just interesting that sometimes you can get to a
Speaker 1: point in a community where not having a flag says more,
Speaker 1: where it's like those people flat flag there, they're like,
Speaker 1: you know, conspicuously not flying the flag. Keep your eye
Speaker 1: on them over there. Yeah, they don't have any allegiance
Speaker 1: to anything, right, we believe in noth sing. What is
Speaker 1: something you think is under rat again, I gotta tell
Speaker 1: you we're all experiencing it right now. Underrated podcasting. At
Speaker 1: six thirty am, I got a full moon out my window.
Speaker 1: It's not a sign of daybreak. And when you were
Speaker 1: running through the topics we're going to cover in this episode,
Speaker 1: I thought, Wow, I'm really gonna wake up and get
Speaker 1: educated in real time anti Semitism for a couple of
Speaker 1: hours to sleep with our wicked accents. I'm ready. I'm ready, guy.
Speaker 1: The thing you have to understand, that's my impression of
Speaker 1: your impression of an American accent. Oh guy, was that
Speaker 1: joke about podcast or just American guys? It was just
Speaker 1: American guys. Guys, American men, no lots. And in New Zealand,
Speaker 1: we we sort of downplay what we know. So if
Speaker 1: you know a lot about something and something goes do
Speaker 1: you know about this? You go a little bit. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And in America, if you said a little bit, then
Speaker 1: there like all right, well don't worry, I'll educate you. Right.
Speaker 1: In New Zealand, there's like this mutual understanding that means
Speaker 1: that you sort of know enough that it's okay. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And so it took me a while to unlearn that
Speaker 1: part where it's like you have to broadcast information and
Speaker 1: confidence just so that you don't wind up being talked to. Right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: You're just like at a like a frozen yogurt place
Speaker 1: in l A and you're like, yeah, you know how
Speaker 1: this works. You're like, yeah, I think you just put
Speaker 1: the time. Here's the deal, guy, I'm just gonna calling.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's eating your name. Al Right, guy,
Speaker 1: here's we can get this coup and you're gonna pull
Speaker 1: this lever like this man, and then it's gonna come
Speaker 1: out and get it to the amount that you want
Speaker 1: to do. The thing is, they weigh it, so if
Speaker 1: you go too heavy on the thro yo, you're gonna
Speaker 1: came through the teeth for this stuff. You have to
Speaker 1: go light on the topics mile as you joke. But
Speaker 1: that is like, it's honestly what it is like as
Speaker 1: a tourist in America. And then a four hour long
Speaker 1: Bubba Gump style recounting of every type of frozen yogurt player.
Speaker 1: Now that's that's if you're going pink berry, if you're
Speaker 1: going red mango, Uh you got, it's a whole different
Speaker 1: ball game. Yeah, it's. And then it evolves into you
Speaker 1: just tied up in a basement with like your eyes open,
Speaker 1: like in the fucking Ludovico treatment and fucking Clopper orange. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just asked if sprite came out of this fountain?
Speaker 1: Why am I being polite? Oh? Man? This guy. Hey, Brenda,
Speaker 1: this guy is never used one of the coke machines.
Speaker 1: You can make tastes like anything, right, Yeah, get the
Speaker 1: core form. We're gonna have to educate this guy. Uh,
Speaker 1: that's good to laugh. It is good to laugh sometimes.
Speaker 1: Speaking of the full moon outside your window? Is that
Speaker 1: that flower moon? No, and I we get we're getting, um,
Speaker 1: we're getting a full blood moon tonight. And I was
Speaker 1: reading yesterday in the local newspaper. I'm visiting my folks
Speaker 1: in Arrowtown, New Zealand, birthplace of the world famous arrow
Speaker 1: which you guys might use um the symbol or yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: How do you get places? This is prime viewing spot
Speaker 1: for the blood moon, which is Yeah, there's a full
Speaker 1: lunar eclipse that liven eleven PM this evening. If I
Speaker 1: can stay awaking that long, I'm very excited. You're up
Speaker 1: getting in line for a good spot for that viewing.
Speaker 1: Huh wait, what's the flower moon? What was I think
Speaker 1: you were talking about? Jack? I think it's called like
Speaker 1: a flower blood like there's a convergence of that make
Speaker 1: this one extra unique? Yeah that I I just wish
Speaker 1: I knew more about moons so I could talk some
Speaker 1: New Zealanders about them too badly about it. Man, It's okay,
Speaker 1: it's not that interesting. We haven't even got a guy there,
Speaker 1: you know, right, yeah, man, I would love to talk
Speaker 1: to you about about the Moon race. Hold on, you
Speaker 1: think we got to the moon the floor floor, just
Speaker 1: wild eyed ship. All right, let's take a quick break
Speaker 1: and we'll be back. And we're back. And now it
Speaker 1: turns out the right in America, the right wing in America,
Speaker 1: the conservative part of the country, Republicans. It's also like
Speaker 1: the mainstream media seems to be using the phrase anti
Speaker 1: Semitism more than they were even during the Trump administration,
Speaker 1: when people were going into synagogues and committing like the
Speaker 1: most deadly anti Semitic attack of all time. It seems
Speaker 1: like now is a time when anti Semitism has become
Speaker 1: a a central tenant of the conversation in America. The
Speaker 1: uptick in the anti Semitic hate crimes that's come out
Speaker 1: of you know, just the news of the conflict, or
Speaker 1: you know, the attacks from Israel against Palestine, it's allowed
Speaker 1: a group of hateful people to sort of seize that
Speaker 1: moment to sort of begin using like to conflate on
Speaker 1: their own people being critical of the Israeli government with
Speaker 1: these people's hateful agenda of against Jewish people are the
Speaker 1: religion of Judaism, And yeah, like you're saying, you know
Speaker 1: that this has been kind of the brand for the
Speaker 1: GOP is sort of turning a blind eye to anti
Speaker 1: Semitic rhetoric, especially when it's coming from their side. Um,
Speaker 1: because you if you know, you look at Marjorie Taylor,
Speaker 1: uh Gestapo from the house. She recently made a comment
Speaker 1: of likening mask wearing, the mandated mask wearing to like
Speaker 1: the Holocaust, and everyone was like, that is just the
Speaker 1: worst take stop saying stuff like this, especially what's happening
Speaker 1: right now with all this ants, like just like what
Speaker 1: are you doing. Most people came out pretty quickly to
Speaker 1: call it out, whereas you know, Kevin McCarthy, the my
Speaker 1: House minority leader, took a very long time, and then
Speaker 1: finally just this week yesterday said oh, I totally disagree
Speaker 1: with her. That's so bad and wrong, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. But then I'm to do research. He had
Speaker 1: to do his own research, like people on the writer
Speaker 1: was telling me that I'm doing my own research too,
Speaker 1: and I was. I was remembering it was only in
Speaker 1: fucking February or the end of January when they tried
Speaker 1: to out her from the House because of all the
Speaker 1: nonsense she was saying. This is if you recall, she
Speaker 1: was doing things like like during her campaign, posing with
Speaker 1: white supremacists and then refusing to announce them, sharing videos
Speaker 1: where there's a Holocaust denier on saying that there's quote
Speaker 1: an unholy alliance of leftist capitalists and Zionist supremacists have
Speaker 1: they have scheme to promote immigration and misgenation with the
Speaker 1: purpose of breeding us out of existence in our own
Speaker 1: home lands. That was someone you know, she shared that video.
Speaker 1: She she also approved. She said she was like behind,
Speaker 1: not behind, but supportive of a claim that the Israeli
Speaker 1: intelligence Service assassinated JFK and then like the Rothchild's were
Speaker 1: using I remember lasers from space to set forest fires.
Speaker 1: And a hundred ninety nine of these Republicans voted to
Speaker 1: keep her in the House. Yet now because of you know,
Speaker 1: I think because sort of the deference to the Israeli
Speaker 1: government has sort of just been the norm for mainstream
Speaker 1: politics on the left or the right. This is now
Speaker 1: sort of suddenly now the the sort of stand against
Speaker 1: anti Semitism is like the tack they're using to sort
Speaker 1: of protect the status quo, and it just it just
Speaker 1: smacks of such hypocrisy given all of the things that's happened,
Speaker 1: even like you're saying with Trump and you know, him
Speaker 1: calling the people at Charlottesville good people on both sides,
Speaker 1: even though they were saying things like Jews will not
Speaker 1: replace us that. It's just it's a real head scratcher
Speaker 1: now to see that this is part of them trying
Speaker 1: to gain some kind of moral high ground. Yeah, it's interesting.
Speaker 1: Alan Dershowitz a month ago accused Bernie Sanders of being
Speaker 1: anti Semitic for criticizing the Israeli government's policy towards Palestinian people.
Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders, who is a practicing Jewish politician, was yeah,
Speaker 1: he's anti Semitic. But Derschwitz is all on board with
Speaker 1: the party that is backing Marjorie Tail agree, and it
Speaker 1: just kind of puts the lie to everything that they
Speaker 1: I don't know that this line of argument that you
Speaker 1: can't criticize the Israeli government without being anti Semitic. But
Speaker 1: then you have people in the party who are like
Speaker 1: George Soros and the people of his ilk, their blood suckers,
Speaker 1: and you're like, what, I'm sorry that is You're not
Speaker 1: gonna say anything about that. That is what those are
Speaker 1: the seeds that they're sowing. So it's really and because
Speaker 1: I think sadly all forms of you know, Islamophobia, of transphobia, racism,
Speaker 1: anti semitism, just become part of a brand where they
Speaker 1: are trying to like sort of court new voters. It's
Speaker 1: just becoming this I don't know, it almost seems like
Speaker 1: just an easy thing for them to just keep doubling
Speaker 1: down on this rhetoric for more fringe voters. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: Islamophobia is almost never talked about in the mainstream media
Speaker 1: as a problem. Yeah, because these are sort of how
Speaker 1: especially American media and politics works is they take a
Speaker 1: significant societal issue and they use it as a barbed
Speaker 1: by acknowledging how dangerous it is, Oh, this is anti
Speaker 1: semitism is so dangerous. But then what are they doing
Speaker 1: to actually address these things? If if racism and police
Speaker 1: of violence are dangerous things, what are the solutions to them?
Speaker 1: Because it's just always this disingenuous thing of like pointing
Speaker 1: to a problem saying yes, that's bad, but we're not
Speaker 1: gonna do anything about it, and those little embers that
Speaker 1: they don't extinguish just turned into these gigantic, violent wildfires
Speaker 1: that we have to you know, encounter in real physical space. Right.
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about the Catholic Church. We always
Speaker 1: try and bring it up, you know, at least once
Speaker 1: every episode, the Catholic Church go. You know, I've been
Speaker 1: doing it for the longest, crushing it. But there's a
Speaker 1: piece of the New Republic about how they're priests doing
Speaker 1: exorcisms to help protect this good Christian land from critical
Speaker 1: race theory. Essentially, Yeah, this is just a list of
Speaker 1: what people have been doing. In Portland, and archbishop led
Speaker 1: a procession into a public park where he conducted a
Speaker 1: Latin exorcism to dispel the evil spirits left by a
Speaker 1: racial justice activism who were there just in the name
Speaker 1: of social racial justice. A priest had to come be like,
Speaker 1: we gotta get these bad vibes fucking out of here. Uh.
Speaker 1: The very same day in San Francisco, another archbishop did
Speaker 1: a similar right at the site where they basically pulled
Speaker 1: down the father of Junapail Sarah, who California kids know,
Speaker 1: like we were taught he was the Spanish friar who
Speaker 1: came and you know, helped the Indigenous people convert to
Speaker 1: Christianity and created the missions and all the el commune
Speaker 1: o reality or forcibly had these indigenous people convert to Christianity.
Speaker 1: So this man and then also just the violence that
Speaker 1: was enacted on his behalf, but he was with like
Speaker 1: nuns praying the Rosary all again to purify the place.
Speaker 1: And we're seeing this kind of turn into many different
Speaker 1: avenues like where yes, there are even like there are
Speaker 1: people who are saying that things like intersectionality and Marxism
Speaker 1: and Black Lives Matter and critical race theory are like
Speaker 1: works of the devil, their demonic and they need to
Speaker 1: be exercised. And this is just sort of I think
Speaker 1: a wave of clergy that are just doing more than
Speaker 1: sharing on Donald Trump, which they didn't become too rare
Speaker 1: at that time because of his you know, anti abortion stance.
Speaker 1: But now these people are like weaponizing these religious rights
Speaker 1: to create this like moral high ground panic around these
Speaker 1: societal shifts, to just keep the culture wars going. Wouldn't
Speaker 1: they be sectioning members of the church is fither and
Speaker 1: further afield from Like I don't I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: know what the future traditional Christianity, whatever it is, but
Speaker 1: these outlines within religion in America or is this I
Speaker 1: mean in the US, the Catholic Church has not doesn't
Speaker 1: have a great record on progress, because you'll have things
Speaker 1: where like, you know, Nancy Pelosi is like, I'm a
Speaker 1: good Catholic and then her archbishop comes out with a
Speaker 1: wild take that's like completely like you're like, whoa, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: that's not I don't even think Jesus would have got
Speaker 1: down with that take right now. But I think it's
Speaker 1: because there's this really interesting thing about especially with the
Speaker 1: Catholic Church in the United States. There was this book
Speaker 1: written by Father Brian Massingale, was a black priest, and
Speaker 1: he talks about how US bishops they were always condescending
Speaker 1: towards the civil rights activists and the also thing within
Speaker 1: the Catholic Church in the United States, and I'm sure
Speaker 1: just everywhere as we see, it's all sort of centered
Speaker 1: around like whiteness, um, like from the aesthetics to the
Speaker 1: music to the theology. And on top of that they
Speaker 1: also look at racism as like an individual problem, like
Speaker 1: a bad habit versus a societal one. Where we're actually
Speaker 1: acknowledging sort of these systems of oppression. And because of that,
Speaker 1: it keeps the church from being able to have a
Speaker 1: really proper reckoning to even look at, you know, their
Speaker 1: own introduction of slavery into the United States, or their
Speaker 1: history with segregation of black students in schools or churches
Speaker 1: and things like that, the churches would just be clutching
Speaker 1: to whatever sort of reach and poth that. You know,
Speaker 1: I kin't imagine any any church has spear headed by
Speaker 1: an old white guy. It's really when I'm going to
Speaker 1: take a look at itself in the mirror and it
Speaker 1: readdresses anything. I mean, I would say that, like it's
Speaker 1: it's definitely different based on different churches and different priests,
Speaker 1: and like I've definitely seen Catholic priests who are very
Speaker 1: social justice minded and like really focused on like the
Speaker 1: unhoused community and like charity work, and just this is
Speaker 1: the this is the traditional or the assumed you know,
Speaker 1: this is what a chich what churches what you would
Speaker 1: think it right, right, But then I do think that
Speaker 1: there is because of the way I mean, it kind
Speaker 1: of ties into what we were talking about, just the
Speaker 1: way that religion has been politicized and weaponized, and you know,
Speaker 1: it's just a cudgel used to fight these cultural battles
Speaker 1: in a lot of cases. And the one thing that
Speaker 1: the where the US Catholic Church or just the Catholic
Speaker 1: Church in general lines up to the right is the
Speaker 1: abortion debate. And so that is I think exploited a
Speaker 1: lot of the time by the right, and you know,
Speaker 1: certain Catholic bishops and certainly the Catholic Church has I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go out, I'm gonna come out as it's had
Speaker 1: its problems. Um, it's not it's not batting a thousand,
Speaker 1: I would say in the twenty century. What's wild though,
Speaker 1: is like you know, it's when misogyny and like whiteness
Speaker 1: are at the center, Like it's not gonna it's gonna
Speaker 1: have trouble shedding those habits just overall. I know, like
Speaker 1: you know, there was the in the sixties, there was
Speaker 1: like a brief blip where the Catholic Church almost on
Speaker 1: a little more progressive, but then that tightened very quickly
Speaker 1: back up. And I think this is all with this
Speaker 1: sort of background right now too, where you know, in
Speaker 1: the US there's this thing guy the sixteen nineteen project,
Speaker 1: which is written by this journalist, Nicolehannah Jones. It's Pulitzer
Speaker 1: Prize winning work of journalism, just looking at all the
Speaker 1: underpinnings and how systemic racism since the introduction of African
Speaker 1: slavery in this country still reverberates to this day, how
Speaker 1: it's everything is still connected, and drawing very clear lines
Speaker 1: from that moment to where the situation we find ourselves
Speaker 1: now in the United States. Because of the clarity of
Speaker 1: this piece and the reporting this entire project, Conservatives do
Speaker 1: not want this top because it is a unflinching look
Speaker 1: at the entire legacy of African slavery on the United
Speaker 1: States and how it built this country. And a lot
Speaker 1: of this is all because they just do not want
Speaker 1: to inform people. And that's what's really disheartened is that
Speaker 1: it's it's part of a thing where they again, the
Speaker 1: US has many reckonings that it has not experienced, but
Speaker 1: this one especially like we're going to the point where
Speaker 1: you know, the board of trust board of Trustees at
Speaker 1: North Carolina, she was meant to be in this tenured position.
Speaker 1: It's a Republican controlled this board of trustees because it's
Speaker 1: appointed by politicians in the state. So because of that,
Speaker 1: they were able to take her tenure away. And it's
Speaker 1: causing a massive, massive controversy because like this is this
Speaker 1: goes against so many norms to do this. But yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's at all it all is protection of power,
Speaker 1: I mean, which is what should has been practicing since forever.
Speaker 1: And it's just like that I feel like the political
Speaker 1: and you know the visibility of the political and religious
Speaker 1: lines and you know, this ship desire to protect what
Speaker 1: have a limited power they have and like I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's and it sounds like they're gonna sideline themselves. But
Speaker 1: I guess there's a huge volume of people who prescribed
Speaker 1: these beliefs and will believe what they old by these institutions.
Speaker 1: What what's what was like in New Zealand? Right, you
Speaker 1: know what's how is the sort of colonial history of
Speaker 1: New Zealand taught too? Like as when when you're younger,
Speaker 1: like how does how is the how is the country
Speaker 1: dealt with those sort of origins pretty poorly? And it's
Speaker 1: something that's changed. I mean I've been at school for
Speaker 1: I guess eighteen years or something now, but um, something
Speaker 1: that's changing in in real time. And like even Maldi,
Speaker 1: which is that the tongue of the people of the
Speaker 1: land and Maldis are indigenous language. The school I went to,
Speaker 1: I wasn't you know, you get taught the most. I'd
Speaker 1: say probably at Montessory, I was taught the most Maldi
Speaker 1: I got taught in my life, and then in school
Speaker 1: I wasn't really taught anything or you know, the perspective
Speaker 1: of history as told by Maldi and what happened when
Speaker 1: they came and got colonized. There is a slow tide
Speaker 1: change of like reckoning with that, and has there been
Speaker 1: like just as a similar and imagined backlash two people
Speaker 1: wanting to preserve this very sanitized view of like what
Speaker 1: it means to be. Again, the people with the flags
Speaker 1: on their front law and are calling talkback radio and
Speaker 1: they are in quite a quite it is. Thankfully they
Speaker 1: don't articulate themselves with the same intensity outside of the
Speaker 1: four walls of their house. I mean, there's there's always
Speaker 1: you know, there's always pushed back, but it's um, it's different. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's again, it's difficult to know because the people you
Speaker 1: surround yourselves with them, you know, like you don't know
Speaker 1: whether or not the part of the country or the
Speaker 1: world that you're living in as an echo chamber, and
Speaker 1: all of the stuff that you're talking about is not
Speaker 1: reflected beyond who you're who you're with. But it does
Speaker 1: feel as though there's a a genuine effort taking place
Speaker 1: to actually try and yeah, and I think that the
Speaker 1: people who want to have that effort understand the importance
Speaker 1: of understanding your history across the board, to know where
Speaker 1: you come from and the things that mistakes, terrible decisions
Speaker 1: that were made along the way so they're not repeated.
Speaker 1: And it's just such a it's it's so disheartening to
Speaker 1: see that something is simples like this all happened, and
Speaker 1: now your whole thing is like, don't tell fucking anybody
Speaker 1: kids about this. I can, I can, to an extent
Speaker 1: chart my own relationship along those lines of thought, because
Speaker 1: I remember at school, I sort of, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: a white guy in New Zealand who just history was
Speaker 1: not especially New Zealand history wasn't especially interesting to me
Speaker 1: because I suppose because the ongoing ramifications of it where
Speaker 1: that they served me, and so I didn't feel inspired
Speaker 1: to learn about it. But then as time goes on,
Speaker 1: you know, you suddenly realize that they're very unhealthy foundations
Speaker 1: on which you're living your life, and you do want
Speaker 1: to tear it up and have a look, but it's um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a huge volume of people who would rather just
Speaker 1: keep the blinkers on and try and get to the
Speaker 1: end of their life without having to think that anything
Speaker 1: bad happened or that any of their antistis caused any
Speaker 1: fucking carnage. Right, Yeah. I think I think that's pretty
Speaker 1: similar to how the United States education system works. And
Speaker 1: like you were saying that the lie that you were
Speaker 1: taught is one that serves you, and so it's almost
Speaker 1: it's just the lie is so much less interesting than
Speaker 1: the truth. And I feel like I would have been
Speaker 1: way more interested in history and literature and if you
Speaker 1: had told me, look, you're living in like an unjust
Speaker 1: society that is built on these unjust events and structures.
Speaker 1: And I think if you trusted people to to learn
Speaker 1: that at a young age like that, when they're sense
Speaker 1: of decency is intact there, you know, insecurities aren't up.
Speaker 1: And I think that's why there's so much invested on
Speaker 1: blocking this from happening, coming from the right to the
Speaker 1: point of making it illegal to teach to teach No,
Speaker 1: nobody is arguing the facts like they're trying to change
Speaker 1: the context in which they describe the facts, but they're
Speaker 1: trying to make it illegal to teach history. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's it's I mean, I just even think of like
Speaker 1: just as a kid, like it took my dad and
Speaker 1: grandparents are teaching me more about black history than anything
Speaker 1: I learned in class, because they're like, what the funk
Speaker 1: are they teaching you. They're like, no, no, no to
Speaker 1: everything you just said back to us. That's not what
Speaker 1: a fucked up version of things. And it's funny because
Speaker 1: that actually drove my interest in history. That's what I
Speaker 1: ended up studying in college because I just I was like, wait,
Speaker 1: it sort of grabbed me and saying like they're purposefully
Speaker 1: not telling you everything for whatever, whether they think it's
Speaker 1: too much for a kid to understand or whatever, there's
Speaker 1: a job. I just felt like, there's this untapped wealth
Speaker 1: of information that is being kept for me that is
Speaker 1: so vital to know because it also helps you understand
Speaker 1: the origin stories of cultures and things and to know
Speaker 1: like what which people's came and what their impact was
Speaker 1: on a given nation's culture and things like that, and
Speaker 1: for the most part, you just sort of grow up
Speaker 1: thinking like I don't know, Spain's like this, Frances like this,
Speaker 1: England's like this, because that's what they are, rather than like,
Speaker 1: hold on, there's an entire history to actually understand, to know,
Speaker 1: and everything you see now can make sense if you
Speaker 1: can make sense of the history. It's part of this
Speaker 1: sort of homogenized, like clean lines of learning where it's
Speaker 1: like that it's not that I don't want to teach
Speaker 1: you how complicated everything is, or you don't like I
Speaker 1: remember becoming or like you know, it's coming coming without
Speaker 1: you becoming an adult and starting to find the world
Speaker 1: so complex and confusing. And the thing about like I
Speaker 1: I it took me a moment to get my hit
Speaker 1: around there if I measured against like you know, everything
Speaker 1: is just taught to the point of convenience or it's
Speaker 1: a it's a very pure drive to learn that you
Speaker 1: head there because you identified something within the curriculum within
Speaker 1: your school that you're like, this doesn't sit because what
Speaker 1: I'm actually being educated by the people I trust means
Speaker 1: that there's so much more that's not happening right now
Speaker 1: because I feel like and it maybe you know that
Speaker 1: school chot isn't the way that the curriculum is tool
Speaker 1: might be changing, but yeah, it's fascinating. Really. Yeah, if
Speaker 1: you told me at the outset of like the process
Speaker 1: of my education, that we didn't have any of the
Speaker 1: answers that like, we're still trying to figure this ship
Speaker 1: out and it's an ongoing conversation as opposed to the
Speaker 1: thing that always board me the most about school was
Speaker 1: this idea that well, yeah, so this is known, we
Speaker 1: know all of this, so it's actually not that interesting
Speaker 1: because it's just like that's finished. Right. I thought science
Speaker 1: was this thing that we had figured out and now
Speaker 1: it was over and like that's that's just it and
Speaker 1: there's no real questions to answer that are worth anything.
Speaker 1: And the same thing with history. At first, you know
Speaker 1: that like history is just these events. This is the
Speaker 1: people were there, they told us this happened, and for
Speaker 1: the most part, that's how it happened. And it's yeah,
Speaker 1: the the actual mystery if you just restored that to
Speaker 1: the conversation, like and then but then when you look
Speaker 1: at enough, you just sort of see these patterns of
Speaker 1: human behavior just moving cyclically constantly just with like new
Speaker 1: languages and borders and things like that, but like it's
Speaker 1: in a way, when you look at it, you begin
Speaker 1: to really see just sort of what how humanity operates
Speaker 1: and how it chooses to protect its you know, ideologies
Speaker 1: or self perception. And I think that's what's interesting about
Speaker 1: knowing these things, because I'm sure if kids were taught
Speaker 1: about all of the things that were done to you know,
Speaker 1: keep the institution of slavery and the lengths that people
Speaker 1: went that you would see similar tensions. Now, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: it's almost like we never handled this because we haven't.
Speaker 1: But they don't want they don't want to teach kids
Speaker 1: that because I think they also see that, you know,
Speaker 1: this this fear for conservatives, like they go to colleges
Speaker 1: and maybe giving these like leftists or whatever. It's like, dude,
Speaker 1: they're giving new perspectives. And the longer you protect that information,
Speaker 1: then the harder it comes for adults to reconcile because
Speaker 1: it's like totally destabilizes the world that they think they're
Speaker 1: living in. And so the greater the reluctance grows to
Speaker 1: educate yourself, and then that's how you wind up with
Speaker 1: these lizards who are like, no, you can't teach that, right,
Speaker 1: It would suck. It would suck me up, and so
Speaker 1: it would suck anyone upright. You want to make the
Speaker 1: information that kids learn it in college about like leftist values,
Speaker 1: less powerful. Teach it to them when they're young. Make
Speaker 1: it so that it's always there and available to them
Speaker 1: instead of this secret information that's been hidden from them
Speaker 1: from day one. You know that same is true of
Speaker 1: l s D. Yeah, just give the kids LSD, won't you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you got a bad trip when you're six, you probably
Speaker 1: won't be touching this stuff. That's true. All right, Well
Speaker 1: your right back, and we are back and the Olympics
Speaker 1: are almost here? My god? Which is wild? I I
Speaker 1: don't know. I guess there's usually like this impending media
Speaker 1: like cloud that seems to always be looking forward to
Speaker 1: the Olympics, and in America at least, I don't know
Speaker 1: if that's how it is in New Zealand. Guy. But
Speaker 1: like I the Winter Olympics, you realize that's happening once
Speaker 1: it's started and and it's on TV and people are
Speaker 1: suddenly talking about it. But the Summer Olympics, I feel
Speaker 1: like it is always a big deal with like a
Speaker 1: lead up in the media and in the sports world,
Speaker 1: Simone Bile's the greatest U S gymnasts of all time,
Speaker 1: maybe the greatest gymnast of all time. Has been like
Speaker 1: doing this routine in on the vault that is like unprecedented,
Speaker 1: and that's that's really the only piece of mainstream news
Speaker 1: I've seen that like kind of crossed over into the
Speaker 1: zags where I would have been like, wait, why are
Speaker 1: we talking about gym gymnastics again? Oh, there's an Olympics
Speaker 1: coming home. Doesn't realize how ignorant I am too a
Speaker 1: gymnastics because, like Simone Biles just does things. So after less,
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, yeah, that looks normal, right right right,
Speaker 1: And then and then I remember, I think it was
Speaker 1: like Franklin Leonard Pass guests or someone was like, can
Speaker 1: someone explain to me, Like, I know this is historical,
Speaker 1: this double pike, your chenkle that she just busted, but like,
Speaker 1: I don't beyond just seeing that looks like just some
Speaker 1: very cool shit. But then then someone's like, check out
Speaker 1: Mary lou Retton's four vault that got her a perfect
Speaker 1: ten in eighty four, and you'll see how much the
Speaker 1: game has changed. And then you watch the tune like, okay, right,
Speaker 1: she just came up. Mary lou Retton just came up
Speaker 1: to the vault and then did a somersault underneath it,
Speaker 1: and that's what got her perfect ten, which is my
Speaker 1: my famous vault is that the judges fist I'm seeing
Speaker 1: a gymnast. I think there's the fist of the Holy Ship.
Speaker 1: There's an interesting experiment if you only watch Simone Bios.
Speaker 1: Then you'd be like, god, wow, incredible old gymnasts can do. Right,
Speaker 1: And that is kind of how it is. That's the
Speaker 1: only thing that me, a non gymnastics follower like really
Speaker 1: sees is the greatest like single acts of Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: sure that's true of like all sports. I mean it's
Speaker 1: like anything, right, Like someone might watch joke it's just bland,
Speaker 1: a weird shot, and we're like, yo, that is difficult
Speaker 1: to even take a shot like that. Or people who play,
Speaker 1: you know, who think soccer is easy. Try trapping a
Speaker 1: ball that's coming from you know, just fort above your
Speaker 1: head and effortlessly just trapping the ball. There are so
Speaker 1: many little skills that like, yeah, that are born out
Speaker 1: of ignorance. That's why I'm just trying, especially with Simone Bios,
Speaker 1: to inform myself so I can truly appreciate just how
Speaker 1: next level the ship is, what you're what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: It's very excited to me. I was hopefully there's some
Speaker 1: sort of large scale international platform with the beast athletes
Speaker 1: from every country to represent themselves and show us these
Speaker 1: different skills. Well, guys, because Japan Tokyo, even though it's
Speaker 1: one that's my favorite thing about these little bit it's
Speaker 1: like I think that no one is going to remember COVID,
Speaker 1: like when we look back on this about that's right,
Speaker 1: that's been hit. Those games are gonna be asterisk to hell,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like when you're looking at
Speaker 1: a do people still looking at all my next like
Speaker 1: I used to when I'm playing San Diego. But the
Speaker 1: whole thing with this is like right now, Tokyo is
Speaker 1: in terrible ship. Japan is in awful shape in terms
Speaker 1: of the COVID situation. The vaccinations have like stalled out.
Speaker 1: Less than five percent of people have their first shot.
Speaker 1: Major metropolitan areas have declared states of emergency. The Osaka
Speaker 1: hospital system, they said, is completely understrain, if not like
Speaker 1: on the just brink of disaster because of the amount
Speaker 1: of people that are having to be admitted, and the
Speaker 1: United States government is even telling Americans like, don't even
Speaker 1: think about taking a trip to Japan right now. Don't
Speaker 1: even try it, even though yeah, we're the probably the
Speaker 1: worst place on earth to go a few months ago,
Speaker 1: but don't even think about going there? Is that to
Speaker 1: Americans or American athletes to Americans? Now? The United States
Speaker 1: Olympics and like Paralympics Committee has said, don't even think
Speaker 1: about not going, Simone Biles, you better get your ass
Speaker 1: on that because we got work to do. But yeah,
Speaker 1: they the obviously the people are representing the athletes believe
Speaker 1: that it's going to be a perfect bubble, no problem
Speaker 1: at all, don't even worry about it. Meanwhile, the polling
Speaker 1: shows that even the people of Japan look on the
Speaker 1: other side of this. Prior to it, I spoke to
Speaker 1: friends and family in Japan. They're like, oh, the Olympics
Speaker 1: are coming, that'll be fun, because again, any opportunity for nationalism.
Speaker 1: Japanese people love, you know what I mean. I think
Speaker 1: like most countries, but you know, for Japan there's like
Speaker 1: certain sports where we really excel. So this felt like
Speaker 1: a good moment. Now of the people in Japan are
Speaker 1: against hosting the Olympics this year, want to postponement for
Speaker 1: want a complete cancelation. So you know, but since a
Speaker 1: lot of money has been made, what are we going
Speaker 1: to reprint these T shirts? No, the T shirts become
Speaker 1: more valuable. Yeah, I would love if these got canceled
Speaker 1: to get my hands on some Tokyo is a ticket?
Speaker 1: Who's who? Who speads of cancelation? Is that the i
Speaker 1: O C? Is that the Japanese government? Like how does
Speaker 1: how would that? Actually? I think I would have to
Speaker 1: come from the IOC because the Japanese government has not
Speaker 1: put up any resistance to the games. So it's gonna
Speaker 1: take the executives for the IOC to wonder is this
Speaker 1: worth it? I don't know. I don't know what their
Speaker 1: calculus is. It probably does have to do with the
Speaker 1: amount of fucking merchandise that's probably been produced with the
Speaker 1: number on it or some ship, but I don't know.
Speaker 1: Like I mean, I would be interesting though, two to
Speaker 1: see how many athletes, if any, refused to participate. They're like, yo,
Speaker 1: this is just a reckless I'm sorry, this is just
Speaker 1: this seems so reckless and I don't know how. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you women you want me to put
Speaker 1: myself at risk, and other people like no, I'm off
Speaker 1: this that the athletic cycle of an Olympic athlete is
Speaker 1: so yeah, like they've got such a limited amount of
Speaker 1: opportunity to to be the best at what they do.
Speaker 1: And also so many of the sports that take place
Speaker 1: at the Olympics are just so you know, like they're
Speaker 1: not there's not a light on the shot in them
Speaker 1: in the three years in between every ceremony. The life
Speaker 1: cycle of a sakata, that's like you get this one
Speaker 1: chance to come out everything every four years. And so,
Speaker 1: I mean, I can I can understand purely from an
Speaker 1: athletic perspective, how some of these people like, goddamn, I've
Speaker 1: been working so hard for this, I just want to
Speaker 1: go to the Olympics once, like it might be their
Speaker 1: one opportunity. And then but you, I mean, I feel
Speaker 1: like it's it's just it's ridiculous that it's happening, and
Speaker 1: it's it sounds like, yeah, money drives it, and if
Speaker 1: it's going to go ahead, then an athlete is going
Speaker 1: to be like, well, I have worked towards this they're
Speaker 1: putting it on. I'm not going to not go. And
Speaker 1: then it's sort of it's a similar thing happened. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you guys, you almost definitely don't The IPL,
Speaker 1: the Indian Premier League, it's a T twenty cricket tournament
Speaker 1: that is the most expensive and cricket. It takes place
Speaker 1: every year in India, and they in the face of
Speaker 1: what was extensively looked at the worst COVID nineteen crisis
Speaker 1: that had happened across all of the pandemic was raging
Speaker 1: through India, and then they created this biosecure bubble and like,
Speaker 1: you know, millions of not billions of dollars are being
Speaker 1: spent creating this league and you're they're playing cricket and
Speaker 1: what is a biosecure bubble? And then like it's so
Speaker 1: incongruous with the news you're reading about what's happening in India.
Speaker 1: And then about halfway into the tournament there was a
Speaker 1: bisecure bubble breach and all of a sudden, that highly
Speaker 1: contained the strain of COVID is ripping through the players.
Speaker 1: And then all of them are panicking and trying to
Speaker 1: get charter flights out of the country, and you know,
Speaker 1: I mean the India, it didn't have the the facilities
Speaker 1: to you know, take care of its citizens, the people
Speaker 1: who lived there. And I just can't have a feel
Speaker 1: like you're going to see I mean, and I don't
Speaker 1: know if the io C pay attention to that. They
Speaker 1: must have because it's the only other massive multinational sports
Speaker 1: league that's trying to take place in the middle of
Speaker 1: a of a hot spot. But there is a very
Speaker 1: damning warning and advertisement for what is almost inevitably going
Speaker 1: to happen if these glands go ahead. I don't know
Speaker 1: what you can do to prevent that. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think in their mind they'll be like, forget that example,
Speaker 1: what about the NBA bubble that worked? And they're like,
Speaker 1: well don't that's not hold on. So you're selectively picking
Speaker 1: anecdotal over why Miles is the a number of vaccinated
Speaker 1: people stalling it under five percent? Is their opposition to
Speaker 1: like getting vaccines or I think it's just the distribution
Speaker 1: is just happening as efficiently as it can. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I just I think just getting it available has been
Speaker 1: the hardest part, right, yeah, alright, Well, staying on sports
Speaker 1: in American sports over the weekend, it was kind of
Speaker 1: a surreal experience where suddenly fans were back, like the
Speaker 1: NBA playoffs kicked off over last weekend and Madison Square
Speaker 1: Garden in New York City where the New York Knicks
Speaker 1: play was packed to the gills with people like screaming
Speaker 1: and shouting and not masked up and packed to the
Speaker 1: main sorry not the girls and forces that one. Uh,
Speaker 1: there was a golf major and it went from there
Speaker 1: not being anyone on these courses like watching the tournament too,
Speaker 1: like an unprecedentedly drunk and like out of control crowd,
Speaker 1: just like crowding the players and like pouring onto the course,
Speaker 1: like I don't know my dad watches these. I don't
Speaker 1: watch them. My parents are staying with us. And that
Speaker 1: he was just he was like, I've never seen anything
Speaker 1: like this. They were like running up to the guy
Speaker 1: as he was like about to win the tournament, like
Speaker 1: patting him on the back and like grabbing him and
Speaker 1: ship and he was like, what is happening? But it's
Speaker 1: I don't know, It's it's surreal to see that many
Speaker 1: people in that small space in a world where we
Speaker 1: know that the US is not really doing like strict
Speaker 1: vaccine passport, like vaccination passport. You know. The New York
Speaker 1: Knicks and the New York Nets. Brooklyn Nets, who also
Speaker 1: had full attendance are almost full attendance. They had they
Speaker 1: said that there was like ninety percent vaccination. But I
Speaker 1: don't think they're like checking people's paperwork. Maybe maybe they are,
Speaker 1: but I mean maybe some level. I don't know. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to go to game three. Yeah, yeah, so we'll see.
Speaker 1: I know they just say pull up with your VACS
Speaker 1: paperwork or whatever and or like a negative PCR test
Speaker 1: from within seventy two hours. But we'll see, you know.
Speaker 1: But people, yeah, I guess they are. Yeah, but it's
Speaker 1: just it. Yeah, but there is this energy though to
Speaker 1: the like the Madison Square Garden game, I could not
Speaker 1: believe what I was saying. I think it's a combination things.
Speaker 1: It's that it's the Knicks are in the postseason again,
Speaker 1: I think for starters, mixed with just the post vax
Speaker 1: world that we find ourselves in. But yeah, it's it's
Speaker 1: I mean, people are able to switch it up real quick.
Speaker 1: I'm like just now being like a little bit more
Speaker 1: like yeah, fucking baby, I'm I'm feeling feeling safer ish. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean the world, Like I flew back east over
Speaker 1: the weekend and every thing is like fully masked up,
Speaker 1: and like you know when you're inside the airport, when
Speaker 1: you're on the plane, like you have to be wearing
Speaker 1: a mask the whole time. Still, somebody ordered like two
Speaker 1: drinks in a row, and the flight attendant was like,
Speaker 1: why don't we take a break because you need to
Speaker 1: put your mask back on because you've had it off,
Speaker 1: like having this drink from I think there was all
Speaker 1: I think that was also at play, But the situation
Speaker 1: is so bad on airplanes. I'm surprised you didn't see
Speaker 1: some ship go down because didn't a flight attendant get
Speaker 1: or or I don't know if it was who who
Speaker 1: got the flight attendant got their teeth knocked out on
Speaker 1: a flight recently. But that we're out of pocket, but
Speaker 1: they're still like making everybody wear their masks. You know
Speaker 1: I didn't. I I had a you know, a fake
Speaker 1: thing covering conscientious objector card that held up sir. Uh
Speaker 1: it is my right, Uh all right, get off, asshole,
Speaker 1: Get this asshole off. You're saying some kind of body
Speaker 1: providence weird shot. It's just funny that the place that
Speaker 1: they are letting people like finally experience the being in
Speaker 1: public without a mask is like this just unhinged like
Speaker 1: emotional environment where like it's encouraged to just lose your
Speaker 1: mind on the refs and the opposing players. Like the
Speaker 1: the Knicks game, they were like Channing swears that like
Speaker 1: this young this guy was like really good player, young ship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I need to tell them. Would have been like for
Speaker 1: you man, because I know you've been really quiet during
Speaker 1: this whole section because probably because you haven't. I know,
Speaker 1: New Zealand's in a bad place. You guys haven't had
Speaker 1: crowds in a minute. I found fantasy. Yeah yeah, we
Speaker 1: cannot need dream. I mean yeah, we we've had crowds
Speaker 1: at sports games since I feel like maybe July or
Speaker 1: August last year. And the plan was to um it
Speaker 1: was Alimini sation. It means that you know, watching these
Speaker 1: American sports games and stuff, and you see people like
Speaker 1: all these people who are clearly pissed up and packed
Speaker 1: and close proximity to people who presumably they didn't come
Speaker 1: to the game worth with a mask hanging around their
Speaker 1: chin or open air or like holding it to gesticulate,
Speaker 1: just waving germs everywhere exactly. We didn't. No one's wearing
Speaker 1: masks at the stadiums because like you have to wear
Speaker 1: masks on public transport, you have to wear masks on airplanes.
Speaker 1: But in the airport you're not wearing a mask, Like
Speaker 1: I don't actually know what the functionality of it is.
Speaker 1: And you know, it seems crazy to me that you
Speaker 1: wouldn't wear one all the way through the airport. You've
Speaker 1: got this idea, but just on the plane. Yeah, But
Speaker 1: so no, I mean there's we've even recently we've started
Speaker 1: playing um there was a Super Rugby alter out or
Speaker 1: competition which was like just with the national borders. There
Speaker 1: five franchises who played right by against each other. And
Speaker 1: then in the last two weeks we've got an open
Speaker 1: travel by what with Australia now so quarantine free travel
Speaker 1: between the two countries, and we've started playing Super Rugby
Speaker 1: Australasia I think that's what it's called or whatever. And
Speaker 1: now we're playing international matches and you're watching sports games
Speaker 1: in Australia where again people aren't wearing masks. But I
Speaker 1: mean it's like going to a sports game was the
Speaker 1: first one of the first things I did when we
Speaker 1: got letter out of lockdown, and it was like the
Speaker 1: sense of I can viscerally remember the intensity and the
Speaker 1: relief and the excitement and just you know, being in
Speaker 1: a crowd and all of that emboldened and underscored by
Speaker 1: the fact that we knew that we had to isolate
Speaker 1: like that, you know, we had eliminated COVID nineteen and
Speaker 1: so the consequence was not there. But I think it's
Speaker 1: it's just too I mean, your guy's experience of it,
Speaker 1: in your relationship to it so different. I can't imagine
Speaker 1: how difficult it would be to go to an NBA
Speaker 1: game if you're in New York and you support the
Speaker 1: next and you're at Medicine Square Garden for the first time,
Speaker 1: what ten years or something, and you've just now you
Speaker 1: have for the first time in two years. You've got
Speaker 1: to remember to fucking keep a mask of your your mouth,
Speaker 1: like try young probably can't. Hey, you, the only way
Speaker 1: that you're gonna get through them is if you can
Speaker 1: read your lips. Yeah, right, It's it's a it's the
Speaker 1: assumed responsibility keeps getting passed down to the individual, like
Speaker 1: it's it's yeah, the same thing with just like with
Speaker 1: the CDC's bizarre like Mask Man dates were like I
Speaker 1: don't yeah, if you well, actually I don't know, maybe
Speaker 1: if well, how old your kid? And it's like, what
Speaker 1: are the fucking rule? What? Then forget it essentially as
Speaker 1: a way to let businesses put it on businesses now
Speaker 1: to say that's on you to decide, because we don't.
Speaker 1: We don't want to be the boogie person anymore for
Speaker 1: the Chamber of commerce, who is allowed like these politicians
Speaker 1: are allowing, allowing them to put more pressure on us
Speaker 1: and the other people who are trying to do right
Speaker 1: by this pandemic. Ye. And also just box office continues
Speaker 1: to be you know, it's not fully there, but it
Speaker 1: seem like the people who are releasing movies are getting
Speaker 1: a better return than like the Wrath of Man. Jason
Speaker 1: Statham's new movie is going to be the best performing
Speaker 1: Jason Statham movie to date, despite being like almost indistinguishable
Speaker 1: from other Chase in state to a non Statham head, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sit by a while you poo poo
Speaker 1: the filmography of the great Jason Stead. But like the
Speaker 1: you couldn't get I could not tell you the difference
Speaker 1: between the Wrath of Man and the Mechanic to uh, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: one of them is a sequel for a start, Yeah,
Speaker 1: my bad. But it's just I feel like people studios
Speaker 1: are probably realizing that they're leaving money on the table
Speaker 1: if they're continuing to not release movies like there's just
Speaker 1: no competition, so you can really like do well. And
Speaker 1: Demon Slayer is continuing too. It's now made forty five
Speaker 1: million in America alone and is the biggest movie ever
Speaker 1: in Japan with four hundred million dollars, and it's the
Speaker 1: biggest grossing movie of Wait till Fast nine comes out, Jack,
Speaker 1: then we'll start seeing you know what I mean? Because
Speaker 1: the family Man, when your family or whatever the funk thatline?
Speaker 1: What was it all? When you're here your family? Maybe
Speaker 1: that's all guard and not Fast and Furious. But it's
Speaker 1: remarkable the metic similarity. It does like the energy around
Speaker 1: that Fast and Furious movie, though it is kind of
Speaker 1: funny to see, like, even though it seems jokey, but
Speaker 1: this does feel like a good time for a movie
Speaker 1: like that to come out in the US, for at
Speaker 1: least the people who want to be safe and go
Speaker 1: to theater. But yeah, yeah, maybe that New Zealand they've
Speaker 1: been playing. I'm sure they're doing it in America. To
Speaker 1: you you can go to the cinema and watch all
Speaker 1: the fast films at the moment they just raw in
Speaker 1: the map. Oh so cool. They haven't done that's right? Great,
Speaker 1: damn it because you can't really understand Yeah, you can't
Speaker 1: understand F nine if you haven't recently F one. Do
Speaker 1: I need to know the past material to understand this installment? Yes?
Speaker 1: Do you think you're gonna you're gonna make sense of
Speaker 1: a flying car and from the fucking sky. No, it's
Speaker 1: a it was a light crescendo to this point. It's
Speaker 1: it's list about the flying car and more about the
Speaker 1: relationships between the people in the car and the flying cars.
Speaker 1: See you just see you're hung up on the car part.
Speaker 1: What about the air between the characters contained within? And
Speaker 1: if people watch one through eight and have questions about
Speaker 1: why someone who always talks about family, Uh, the Vin
Speaker 1: Diesel character who's obsessed with family never mentioned his brother
Speaker 1: before this one. Yeah you know he has a brother
Speaker 1: in this one, bro, John Cena, he should have also
Speaker 1: mentioned his brother is John Cena that's a big deal.
Speaker 1: That's that's an interesting casting decision. Okay. Anyways, Guy, have
Speaker 1: you is f nine out in New Zealand? No? No,
Speaker 1: not yet? Are you just reading in New Zealand like
Speaker 1: a fantasy world? Like it? It's fashion furious and already
Speaker 1: out man, And there's no COVID. That's cool. That's probably not.
Speaker 1: It's big a deal to have flying cars there since
Speaker 1: you actually have flying cars in New Zealand. We do,
Speaker 1: and the horsepower on them is something unfathomable. Guy, as
Speaker 1: always such a pleasure having you. Where can people find
Speaker 1: you and follow you? You can find me at Guy
Speaker 1: underscore Mont, on Twitter and on Instagram, to social media platforms.
Speaker 1: I wish I could leave, but I cannot yet bring
Speaker 1: myself to that's where you can find me. Nice. Is
Speaker 1: there a tweet or some of the work of social
Speaker 1: media you've been enjoying? Ah? Yeah, there was a tweet
Speaker 1: that really cracks me out. It was from a few
Speaker 1: days ago, but I knew this was coming up, so
Speaker 1: I saved it. I'm just getting it up. It was
Speaker 1: by an account called I don't know who this guy
Speaker 1: is Jonathan Haynes at Jonathan Haynes and He's just written,
Speaker 1: what an excellent five paragraphs And it's a screen cap
Speaker 1: of a BBC News Entertainment article and the screencap reads
Speaker 1: cold Plays. Chris Martin says that the pandemic has forced
Speaker 1: him to reassist his relationship with fame, and I quote
Speaker 1: last year was quite an eye opener, he told BBC
Speaker 1: Radio Too. I was like, who am I without Wembley
Speaker 1: Stadium saying You're awesome. I'm trying in my life right
Speaker 1: now to not attach too much to being a pop star.
Speaker 1: I'm trying not to get myself worth from external validation
Speaker 1: end quote. He was speaking as Coldplay unveiled their new
Speaker 1: single Higher Power. They premiered the Ages inspired pop song
Speaker 1: on board the International Space Station Say You Forgot with
Speaker 1: French astronaut Thomas Piskey, who bams the music back to
Speaker 1: Earth by satellite. What God? How is that? Not? Ah?
Speaker 1: That's so brilliant. It's just like the most perfect Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that's but it's really stress straight up spinal
Speaker 1: tip Miles, where can people find you? What's the tweet
Speaker 1: you've been enjoying? Twitter? Instagram, Miles of Gray, also twitsch,
Speaker 1: dot TV, Slash four twenty day fiance. Some tweets that
Speaker 1: I like. Pho boy, Let's see. This one is from
Speaker 1: at Hey mand Okay tweeting, Hello, l Joe Biden hasn't
Speaker 1: forgiven a cent on my student loans and he's emailing
Speaker 1: me for cash. Nice try, buddy. Another one is from
Speaker 1: Toby Herman at Toby Hermann. It's like a four pain
Speaker 1: sort of picks, you know, four picks. You got Leonardo
Speaker 1: DiCaprio in a tuxedo vaping, Leonardo Caprio on a yacht vaping,
Speaker 1: and then the other side we have Kate Winslett and
Speaker 1: Mayor of East Town vaping and two different scenes and
Speaker 1: it just says near wherever hitting these vapes so fucking hard.
Speaker 1: And then one last one is from past gas Greg
Speaker 1: Edwards at Greg the Grouse. He tweeted, did they have
Speaker 1: OO duels for mushrooms? Yeah? You can find me on
Speaker 1: Twitter at Jack Underscore. Oh. Brian. Tim Barnes at Tim
Speaker 1: Barnes tweeted this summer, I'll be walking around shirtless in
Speaker 1: New York with a boom box blasting podcasts. And then
Speaker 1: I had another screen cap like guys that I wanted
Speaker 1: to read, if you'll indulge me, Robert Moore tweeted weight
Speaker 1: hold on what tweeter screen cap from book for him.
Speaker 1: When Einstein died in nineteen fifty five, his brain was
Speaker 1: removed during an unsanctioned autopsy at a hospital in Princeton.
Speaker 1: Later at the University of Pennsylvania, pathologist named Thomas Stults.
Speaker 1: Harvey sliced it up for research purposes, but kept some
Speaker 1: of the slippers for himself. In Harvey, who had since
Speaker 1: been stripped of his medical license, moved to Lawrence, home
Speaker 1: of the University of Kansas, where he presented one of
Speaker 1: the livers to local author William S. Burrows, after whose
Speaker 1: death in it passed into the possession of I'm going
Speaker 1: to stop now because I don't want to get anyone
Speaker 1: in trouble. Let's just say that when I was in
Speaker 1: Lawrence teaching at KU, this was a thing that still happened,
Speaker 1: a hazing that was also a homage. You scooped the
Speaker 1: bit of Einstein's brain out of the jar and shook
Speaker 1: off the excess for now to hide. Then you put
Speaker 1: some salt in the crook of your thumb and licked it,
Speaker 1: after which you took down a shot of cheap room
Speaker 1: temperature tequila and sucked on the brain bit until your
Speaker 1: mouth went numb, until the format to high paralyze your
Speaker 1: lips and tongue, and you couldn't be understood. You couldn't
Speaker 1: even feel yourself trying to make language. That's a real
Speaker 1: thing that is happening as we speak, presumably in Kansas.
Speaker 1: They're sucking on a chunk of Einstein's brain and getting
Speaker 1: high off from old Hud the world. It's a very
Speaker 1: weird place, so fucked up, and I don't even want
Speaker 1: to think of the same time. I wouldn't. I mean,
Speaker 1: I would totally write that into my will if I
Speaker 1: thought people would actually suck up my brain because who knows,
Speaker 1: you know, it sounds like right, I mean, And also
Speaker 1: you're probably God, can you imagine the insufferable asshole who
Speaker 1: just came off of a Einstein brainbender? Dude, you don't
Speaker 1: even know I'm understanding. And I was like micro dosing,
Speaker 1: like you haven't done. I don't even not explain it
Speaker 1: to you anyways. You can find us on Twitter at
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Speaker 1: we link off to the information that we talked about
Speaker 1: in today's episode, as well as a song that we
Speaker 1: think you might enjoy. Miles, what song should people check
Speaker 1: out today? I'm just still thinking of the process of
Speaker 1: that shot. You you put some salt right here on
Speaker 1: your thought, Ye'll lick it. You do a shot and
Speaker 1: then you're sucking on the brain matter instead of the line.
Speaker 1: But then that piece goes back in the formalde hyde. Yeah, bro,
Speaker 1: I mean it's not gonna get You're not gonna get
Speaker 1: anybody else's journey. The structural integrity of that little sliver
Speaker 1: of gray matter, you know what I mean? Suckings? Can
Speaker 1: it handle before it starts turning to grady in your mouth?
Speaker 1: We're talking about freaking Elbert Einstein's brain, Miles, I think
Speaker 1: it's pretty strong. Do you imagine I'm like hell bent,
Speaker 1: I'm like Jack, I'm leaving the show to try and
Speaker 1: become a biology person at k I'm gonna chew on
Speaker 1: that motherfucking brain. I'm gonna find out. But it is
Speaker 1: such like fourth grade Lodge that these like the people
Speaker 1: at the height of whatever their academic pursuits are are
Speaker 1: engaging in anyway. The song what else, the song we
Speaker 1: write out on this is going to be at tracked
Speaker 1: by Dirty Art Club. Done a few tracks by Dirty
Speaker 1: Art Club before, but this one is called videotape and
Speaker 1: this whole album is called FM t I. It's a
Speaker 1: very it's like like spooky background music because it's not
Speaker 1: just quite like cheesy, you know, like sort of musach
Speaker 1: that would just be playing. There's good curation and production
Speaker 1: around it and given a little more vintage sounds, so
Speaker 1: it's like a very familiar it skills like sort of
Speaker 1: if DJ Shadow took it easy on, like the hardness
Speaker 1: of the beats and stuff and just gave you a
Speaker 1: little something that he was sampling from but still with
Speaker 1: some funks. So check this out. Videotape by Dirty Art Club. Alright,
Speaker 1: go check that out the Daily zey guys, the production
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