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Speaker 1: Weekly Zeitgeist. Uh These are some of our favorite segments
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Speaker 1: the Weekly Zeitgeist, and we are thrilled, fortunate, uh in
Speaker 1: awe to be joined by the brilliant, the challenged, the
Speaker 1: hilarious greg Ed wed Hey, hey, hey fellas, thanks for
Speaker 1: having me. Man, it's good to be back. It's great
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah. I mean, like like I said, if I ever,
Speaker 1: you know, need to flee the law, I will just
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Speaker 1: by motherfucker's give me my bes and ship. I'm good.
Speaker 1: You should you know you could be a dope DJ
Speaker 1: and just put the robe on. Yeah. I thought about
Speaker 1: that as like as a bit like you just were
Speaker 1: like white on white air forces and stuff like Yo,
Speaker 1: he's got a. He's on a wave. You can make
Speaker 1: three billion dollars and like two bunchs. He's TikTok experiment.
Speaker 1: I'm up the funky monk uh. He smokes, gives wisdom
Speaker 1: like stage like advice. No, you can't talk, you just
Speaker 1: gotta do it most death style to write everything down.
Speaker 1: Oh ship right, shout out your team, Bay, that's the
Speaker 1: way to do it. He doesn't talking. You just write
Speaker 1: things down though. Well he used to do. He did
Speaker 1: that for like a year. He just wrote everything down. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess. I guess that cocaine was really good. That
Speaker 1: like I can't open my mouth, it's moving. Weir like Brent,
Speaker 1: we like to ask our guest, what is something from
Speaker 1: your search history that's revealing about who you are? I mean,
Speaker 1: there's let's see, I let me see. I mean, because
Speaker 1: sometimes it's just like addresses and that's kind of boring,
Speaker 1: you know, just like looking at addresses. Okay, well, here's
Speaker 1: something that I looked up, like this is probably one
Speaker 1: of the most recent non kind of just I don't know,
Speaker 1: non addresses. I guess is um Dave cause I know
Speaker 1: two and oh so um. I had seen this already
Speaker 1: in the past, but I was thinking about it recently,
Speaker 1: and you guys probably don't know who Dave Causes or
Speaker 1: do you know? Dave Causes a smooth jazz saxophonist and
Speaker 1: his hit track is called You Make Me Smile or
Speaker 1: something like that, something about smile. I think you make
Speaker 1: you smile. And there's an episode of Beverly Hills and
Speaker 1: Ninos two and No where they on Kelly's twenty one birthday.
Speaker 1: I didn't watch the show, but I somebody brought this
Speaker 1: to my attention, and it's so funny. They go to
Speaker 1: this Dave Cause concerts for her birthday and these kids
Speaker 1: are twenty you know, they're supposed to be twenty one,
Speaker 1: right whatever, and they're going to the smooth jazz content. Now, look,
Speaker 1: when I was in high school, I liked smooth jazz myself,
Speaker 1: but I was an anomaly. You know. They're all into it,
Speaker 1: including Brian Auston Green's character, and you know who was
Speaker 1: I think probably into hip hop at the time. But
Speaker 1: they're all at this concert and Dave Causes. It's first
Speaker 1: of all, he's wearing these huge puffed out pants, they
Speaker 1: look like hammer pants, and he's wearing this vest. It
Speaker 1: looks kind of like a genie or almost uh and
Speaker 1: a smooth jazz genie. And he's playing the saxophone a
Speaker 1: kind of doing these funny kind of dance moves as
Speaker 1: he's playing the saxophone. And it's just funny to see
Speaker 1: all these young people at this show as if they
Speaker 1: would be into this, and you know, and they're all
Speaker 1: in their early twenties and they're all kind of you know,
Speaker 1: they're nodding their head to it and they're into it,
Speaker 1: and it's just I'm just wondering who, which which producer
Speaker 1: was this mood jazz fan and this was being an
Speaker 1: accurate thing for kids to go to is to go thistuitous.
Speaker 1: I'm just watching this scene on mute and like it's
Speaker 1: like one of those things where like in a movie
Speaker 1: where they somehow just just brute force inserted like a
Speaker 1: music performance, like this is sucking up the whole firm
Speaker 1: right now, but apparently y'all signed some funked up contract
Speaker 1: which made you had someone had to sing a ballot
Speaker 1: right but ballot right now. But it's like a two
Speaker 1: minute and they're just showing, like the people on all
Speaker 1: the instruments jamming. You're slapping on bass and they're like, yeah.
Speaker 1: The young kids are like, man, this is that sound right?
Speaker 1: It's so funny because they would never be at that show.
Speaker 1: I mean, and you know, I mean I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, look like I said, I'm in a smooth jash.
Speaker 1: I was always in a smooth jazz. But that's that's
Speaker 1: you know, these kids are not. They weren't like me.
Speaker 1: You know. Bryan Austin Green, I will give him credit.
Speaker 1: He does look a little bit checked out. I don't know,
Speaker 1: look at him. He gets back into it though, seems
Speaker 1: checked out a person. Then he's then he starts. Then
Speaker 1: he like, you think he got inspired or something for
Speaker 1: a second in his mind, but then he gets back
Speaker 1: and he's just like oh yeah. The only one he
Speaker 1: does maybe seem not as into it as Dylan is.
Speaker 1: He's maybe not into it. And then Jason Priestley is
Speaker 1: kind of looking at Kelly, looking at her thinking, so
Speaker 1: do you like this or like, you know, she's licking
Speaker 1: her lips looking at this. I mean, it's fucking hots.
Speaker 1: Must have been friends with Dave Coz or something, right.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's such a such a thing that happens
Speaker 1: and shows about teenagers that are clearly written by you know,
Speaker 1: people in their forties. Their taste and culture is always
Speaker 1: very strange. I mean, imagine though, an alternate reality where
Speaker 1: smooth jazz was the dominant, most popular kind of music,
Speaker 1: you know, and you know what I mean for for
Speaker 1: young people. It would be interesting imagine if that was
Speaker 1: only a young person saying. In fact, you know, it's
Speaker 1: in high school. You know, yeah, we're like, oh, you're
Speaker 1: bumping that new Pat Metheny album. Maybe different kind of fights, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, yeah, much more expressive. I do wonder
Speaker 1: if Dylan was because Dylan was, you know, in his
Speaker 1: late thirties playing a you know, nineteen year old what
Speaker 1: like was he pretending was he the only one that
Speaker 1: was checked out? Because he was like aware of that
Speaker 1: and like, yeah, I didn't want people to like couldn't
Speaker 1: couldn't be too into it or else it would like
Speaker 1: reveal his forty five year old heart. He's kind of
Speaker 1: trying to be like a narc, but I mean he's not.
Speaker 1: He is a narc and he's trying to not reveal
Speaker 1: that he's a narc and within the world of of
Speaker 1: the show or whatever, so he's he's over there kind
Speaker 1: of just maybe like really restraining himself from like really
Speaker 1: grooving to it, you know. And but he's like, if
Speaker 1: I get into this too much, I'm gonna seem too young. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I'm still out here to doing it. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I know. I thought so that was something. I mean,
Speaker 1: I've seen that already, but I was thinking about it
Speaker 1: recently and I thought, what's up with that? I want
Speaker 1: to watch that clip again. I want to see I
Speaker 1: want to know. Also, why does anybody talk about this too?
Speaker 1: Does anyone? I was wondering if anybody was noticed that,
Speaker 1: and thought that was weird, you know, because like you
Speaker 1: look at the like on the YouTube video of it,
Speaker 1: there's two comments. One is someone just being like talking
Speaker 1: about the storyline from nine O two. I oh um.
Speaker 1: And then another person says, wow, Dave plays alto saxophone
Speaker 1: but outcomes a nice soprano saxophone. About that though, because
Speaker 1: I was looking at I think I saw that comment
Speaker 1: too about this alto it looks like an alto. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was looking at that too. I said that that's
Speaker 1: not a soprano, it's it's much bigger. But hey, you
Speaker 1: know what whatever, and I don't I have a feeling
Speaker 1: that when you have a band playing as themselves. The
Speaker 1: musician will probably bring his own instrument because it's like
Speaker 1: a very fancy silver saxophone. Oh Dave, that's what Kenny
Speaker 1: G plays, right, he played soprano saxophon. Yeah. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: trying to think of like other examples where the age
Speaker 1: of the producers was like kind of sublimated onto the
Speaker 1: young characters. And I'm in congress with like what yeah,
Speaker 1: completely like the fact that the like five to nine
Speaker 1: year olds in Full House were really into the beach Boys. Uh,
Speaker 1: Like it was clearly just like a John Stamos and
Speaker 1: the producers like uh pipe dream. Yeah. Yeah, what are
Speaker 1: some other examples of that? I wonder what the Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's kind of a funny thing too, that's a funny subject,
Speaker 1: you know, like people being into stuff that they shouldn't
Speaker 1: be into, you know, they like early seasons of Buffy
Speaker 1: the Vampire Slayer. Some of the way that students talk.
Speaker 1: They talk like they're from the seventies suddenly, And I
Speaker 1: know it's like slightly campy, but this sounds like some
Speaker 1: old white dude just wrote all this dialogue for this
Speaker 1: young teen girl. But it seems like this slang was
Speaker 1: probably the top like the thing that I most like
Speaker 1: tune into. I'm like, yo, nobody talks like that at
Speaker 1: that age, but I don't know. Also, you know, there
Speaker 1: was a show I never watched. The show was kind
Speaker 1: of after my time, but my brother my little brothers
Speaker 1: watched the show on Nickelodeon called Hey Arnold, and it
Speaker 1: wasn't you know, show for kids, I guess, But there
Speaker 1: was jazz and that I think smooth jazz. In fact,
Speaker 1: I think the smooth jazz and that too. I think
Speaker 1: people are gonna like in the way that Marlon Brando character,
Speaker 1: uh not not the one from The Godfather was like
Speaker 1: a lesser known mob movie, but he invented the way
Speaker 1: that mobsters dressed. Like, there's gonna be a future world
Speaker 1: where kids all listen to that because they think that
Speaker 1: that's what kids used to listen to, even though it
Speaker 1: was completely made up for the right by like forty
Speaker 1: something U TV producers in the early nineties. What is
Speaker 1: something you think is overrated? Caitlin Well, speaking of tourism
Speaker 1: and going to play paces with beaches. I think going
Speaker 1: to the beach is overrated. Yeah, there I said it.
Speaker 1: Wait why because of what I just I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's it's hot, it's sandy, you get sand everywhere, there's
Speaker 1: like nothing fun to do. The water is always cold.
Speaker 1: I always like if even if it's not cold, the
Speaker 1: salt water is like irritating to my skin. So like
Speaker 1: someone who's going down a list of things to pivot to,
Speaker 1: Like when you're like, come on, let's go to the beach,
Speaker 1: You're like, it's sandy. It's like, no, this part is
Speaker 1: really nice. Yeah, but the water is cold. No, the
Speaker 1: water is actually really great one. Yeah, but the once
Speaker 1: you're in, it's like this. You don't want to go.
Speaker 1: You don't want to be shark there seaweed, you might
Speaker 1: get bit by a crab, there's this teeth. I just yeah,
Speaker 1: I've never had like a great time at the beach.
Speaker 1: I've how I hate that. I mean maybe I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe I'm just going with the wrong people, maybe we're
Speaker 1: bringing the wrong things. I just don't enjoy myself at
Speaker 1: the beach. Yeah, well that's you know. I think I
Speaker 1: definitely don't go to the beach as much, like locally,
Speaker 1: Like if I'm going to other parts of California, like
Speaker 1: I'll hit the beach. But I've gotten so used to
Speaker 1: the l a beaches. I'm like, don't even I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm like spoiled from being around this part of the
Speaker 1: Pacific too long. It's a terrible thing to say, but
Speaker 1: that's just how I feel. But it's funny because her majesty,
Speaker 1: whenever we go somewhere, even up the coast remotely, I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: let's go to the beach, Like, what the funk you?
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't like the beaches near me. I
Speaker 1: like the concept, though, especially when it's warm. Right. Gwyneth
Speaker 1: Paltrow just had a quote that I read somewhere about
Speaker 1: a beach. Yeah. It was like, very I am always
Speaker 1: happiest by the sea. Uh, just the exact opposite, which
Speaker 1: I think is that's a good indicator. I guess I'm
Speaker 1: aways happiest by in or on the sea. And then
Speaker 1: she used that to tease her cruise right, cruise line baby, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a group cruise stop it it's called like goop
Speaker 1: at C or some ship. Yeah, you know this is
Speaker 1: kind of a bus. Oh my god, you and Jamie
Speaker 1: gotta go on this and just tell us what Then
Speaker 1: it's like a funked up Titanic. Goop at sea. I don't, okay,
Speaker 1: I'll go on it. Actually, No, that sounds like that
Speaker 1: sounds like you're actually putting her, like you're actually putting
Speaker 1: yourself in harm's way. Like on paper, goop at sea
Speaker 1: doesn't end well for fucking anyone involved. Yeah, always been
Speaker 1: happiest by on or in the sea. We talked about
Speaker 1: that one like fucking things she tried to have in
Speaker 1: like the UK, and I was like, yo, she's scamming
Speaker 1: us when they had like a group conference and ship.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, maybe that's the past. What about under
Speaker 1: the Seamaid, I've always been happiest at the bottom of
Speaker 1: the city with the other bottom feeders. Anyways, I am
Speaker 1: closer to your take on on the sea than Gwyneth's.
Speaker 1: I think you're I think you're I thought your Mr.
Speaker 1: Ocean City Asian city I got. I go to Ocean
Speaker 1: City for the boards man for the pizza. I'll go
Speaker 1: for beach sun this for the herbs. I mean, I
Speaker 1: actually like I I like an Atlantic Ocean beach better
Speaker 1: than a Pacific Ocean beach because oceans warm and dirty
Speaker 1: like me. I don't know, I just I just feel
Speaker 1: more at home there and like living in l a
Speaker 1: like I every time I go to the beach, I
Speaker 1: feel like I should be wearing a sweater and like,
Speaker 1: uh nit cat, when are y'all going to the beach.
Speaker 1: You know it does get warm. You guys are always
Speaker 1: describing like going to the beach in November or some
Speaker 1: ship it has to burn off in the like you know,
Speaker 1: we get the June gloom and ship. But there's you
Speaker 1: got to pick your spots. Should have been in like
Speaker 1: August and the water is still freezing. Yeah, the water
Speaker 1: the Pacific Ocean is underrated, like just fucking so much
Speaker 1: colder than the Atlantic. I didn't realize that until I
Speaker 1: got out here and started not going to the beach
Speaker 1: at all. My amateur oceanography. What is something you think
Speaker 1: is underrated? I think that is underrated. This is I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna say what I wrote down, but as I'm
Speaker 1: about to say it and looking at it on my
Speaker 1: computer screen, this is probably very correctly rated. But I
Speaker 1: think that I very I very much liked is a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, I was at Costco and I
Speaker 1: bought from Costco for approximately one dollars an entire leg
Speaker 1: of hormone Serrano comes with a stand comes with a
Speaker 1: knife and am yeah. Yeah, it's got a gret with
Speaker 1: a handle and was sort of loosely running kind of
Speaker 1: like a we'll call it quasi to illegal topas bar
Speaker 1: for some vaccinated folks. Oh Andrew, you didn't invite me.
Speaker 1: You should come by. Honestly, I'm more mad about that.
Speaker 1: I'm like a coughing every real quick. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: got I got pretty good. It's slice of the slice
Speaker 1: of the hormone. You know, a lot of olives, a
Speaker 1: lot of just uh poncom tomte, you know, Spanish olives
Speaker 1: with the anchovies inside. I uh yes, I will not look.
Speaker 1: Maybe me over, I will. We could complete the whole party. Baby,
Speaker 1: I come with the Spanish. Well, I I got that
Speaker 1: at a that M Black owned cheese shop in Silver Lake,
Speaker 1: and I was definitely like up sold on them because
Speaker 1: I think they were unconscionably expensive. We're like, yeah, it
Speaker 1: was a very expensive I gotta look, I gotta plug
Speaker 1: for those dollars two yeah, yeah, yeah. If you got
Speaker 1: a guy that's got a guy, it's a it's actually
Speaker 1: a Spaniard friend of mine. But but that's how I
Speaker 1: found out about that costco deal because my mom had
Speaker 1: one like years ago at her house. I said, what
Speaker 1: the fuck are you doing? Full Like the doctor said,
Speaker 1: you have high blood. You can't be eating a whole
Speaker 1: leg a salt meat. Bring that over here. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I was like, man, give me, let me cut a
Speaker 1: little slice off of there. But yeah, but then I
Speaker 1: realized they have this deal there that I just ridict.
Speaker 1: It almost seems like a challenge of like, can you
Speaker 1: eat this entire pig's leg? Yeah? Yeah, I just Toronto
Speaker 1: And the best price you're getting anywhere on the internet
Speaker 1: is three Yeah. I don't know what kind of scale
Speaker 1: or kick back COSTCO has going with Spain all these
Speaker 1: like fucking yeah stickers on it, and you know, I
Speaker 1: I don't I don't understand how it works. But it
Speaker 1: appears to be a you know, a a stamped and
Speaker 1: bonded hommon de Serrano. So I don't know what the
Speaker 1: quality variation is in that to get that price down
Speaker 1: to what it is. It comes with a knife, yeah right,
Speaker 1: it's not like like untaxed cigarettes that the mobs for real?
Speaker 1: What I don't know? Yeah, yeah, I hope was this
Speaker 1: just like a temporary thing where they're like, we just
Speaker 1: this shipment was like, I don't think it's year round,
Speaker 1: is it. I feel like it's a certain time of
Speaker 1: year that this was. This was around Easter, so I
Speaker 1: assume that's when. That's when it's hormone time. It's hormone time.
Speaker 1: I'll come on, stop, come on, come on talk t Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well look I love I love a good uh hommon.
Speaker 1: So I don't know if this is Yeah, so is
Speaker 1: that underrated or anyway? It's fucking the best I thought
Speaker 1: you're gonna say. I was at Costco and I was like,
Speaker 1: when you ate that whole rotisserie chicken that you were
Speaker 1: talking about on the internet. No, I just I just
Speaker 1: hate the legs off that rochestor chicken. That's the other
Speaker 1: thing I've been doing is I've been trying to help
Speaker 1: out with this mutual aid group that does stuff in
Speaker 1: skid row. And one thing that uh, one thing that
Speaker 1: I was doing that week was picking up water for
Speaker 1: for a skid row. But because I was at Costco,
Speaker 1: I was like, so I got a palette of nine
Speaker 1: flats of water and one rotisserie chicken and nothing else.
Speaker 1: I truly I'm curious what the employees at Costco think
Speaker 1: I'm up to because I mean common and the uh
Speaker 1: the rotissar chicken will make you thirsty, a lot of water,
Speaker 1: Iberian ham and uh rosse chicken. But that that Costco
Speaker 1: chicken that is not underrated because people love that. It's
Speaker 1: so anybody work at Costco. They can let us in on. Like,
Speaker 1: is there is there a TikTok video yet where someone
Speaker 1: shows you how they make that ship. I don't. They
Speaker 1: have a lot of stickers on it about how it
Speaker 1: is not full of hormones for something that is clearly
Speaker 1: has to be full of hormones, Like, it's actually less
Speaker 1: unnerving to imagine it's full of hormones that imagining. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because it's too big. It's fucked up. Chicken should not
Speaker 1: be that size. Yeah, So I don't know, but god,
Speaker 1: it's so good. Yeah, and just like you know, doing
Speaker 1: that thing where you're like, I'll just you know, I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna it smells so good. The car, I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna pick a little bit off, and then like two
Speaker 1: minutes later, I'm like driving with my wrists because my
Speaker 1: hands are so greasy. A little kid in another cards like, Mom,
Speaker 1: that man's eating a football. Yeah I really, I really
Speaker 1: went buck wild than a Costco Chicken is the best,
Speaker 1: you know best an answer. It's just it's seasoned. Probably
Speaker 1: like it's just so season there's have a dull bite.
Speaker 1: You probably have your it will preserve your mouth though. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh so good. Anyway, my salt from cost Chicken. There
Speaker 1: was just a story that was almost definitely seated by Costco.
Speaker 1: But someone who's like high up in the organization threatened
Speaker 1: to kill someone else if they raised. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that was the CEO praised the hot dog prices. I'll
Speaker 1: kill you. Figure it out, which Steve jobs. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: make it work, make it work, but for that hot dog.
Speaker 1: But for the hot dog, keep the price, will make
Speaker 1: it work. All fine work. Yeah, yeah, anyway, that's that's me.
Speaker 1: All right, So that a Costco better help man dison
Speaker 1: vacuum dis Yeah, and this mean dogs are they chilling together?
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh yeah, because oh you can see him.
Speaker 1: Oh well, I'll make sure the photo I sent for
Speaker 1: this episode in close Chua. All right, let's take a
Speaker 1: quick break. We'll be right back, and we're back. And yesterday,
Speaker 1: vaccine patents started making the rounds again because Joseph Robinette
Speaker 1: Biden and some members of that you started to come
Speaker 1: around on this idea of waiving the vaccine patents. Yeah, um,
Speaker 1: so we just wanted to kind of talk through the
Speaker 1: issue and why we should really be concerned for Fiser
Speaker 1: and other big farm accompanies because they're we're worried about them.
Speaker 1: We're worried about them, guys. So overall, the issue that
Speaker 1: we're trying to address is that richer countries have received
Speaker 1: eight seven percent of COVID vaccines, while low income countries
Speaker 1: have gotten just point to percent. As of earlier this week,
Speaker 1: um half have gone to the richest sixteen percent of
Speaker 1: the world's population, which means that nations in the Global
Speaker 1: South may not reach widespread vaccination until and you can't
Speaker 1: afford the vaccines they're there there for sale, y. Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: The problem is supply miles to answer questions like, we
Speaker 1: could ramp up production of effective vaccines around the world
Speaker 1: if the companies who developed those vaccines would allow their
Speaker 1: tech to be shared, and that's something they're not willing
Speaker 1: to do because they're like, we invested this money, it
Speaker 1: would be a bad investment in this one specific case
Speaker 1: if we let the patent be shared, for there's a
Speaker 1: mobile pandemic. Yeah, because it would set a precedent for
Speaker 1: future like once in a century global pandemics. Yeah, that's fine,
Speaker 1: we want to set that president, you fucking monsters. But yeah,
Speaker 1: So it's just it's pretty open and shut, like they
Speaker 1: have a bunch of objections on the capitalist side, and
Speaker 1: like when any time you read an article about this
Speaker 1: from like Reuters where they're interviewing investment bankers on this,
Speaker 1: they have all sorts of objections like well, it's actually
Speaker 1: not the fact that the vaccine hasn't been shared or
Speaker 1: that the patents haven't been lifted. It's actually like these
Speaker 1: countries don't have enough vaccine factories or like they're not
Speaker 1: up to the task. And for India, India is one
Speaker 1: of the primary manufacturers of the vaccine. It's just that
Speaker 1: they're shipping them out to other countries. But this is
Speaker 1: always I mean, there are so many people. Anytime you're
Speaker 1: advocating to do something unprofitable, there are millions of people
Speaker 1: who have been educated, uh, you know, beyond any point
Speaker 1: of necessity to cat brained, yeah, just to come up
Speaker 1: with come up with excuses to of why not to
Speaker 1: do stuff where they don't even know what they're saying, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they don't know what they're saying. They probably believe what
Speaker 1: they're saying, you know. And Bill Gates, for instance, uh,
Speaker 1: talk about somebody who can like talk themselves into anything.
Speaker 1: Has been a key driver of the claim that this
Speaker 1: wouldn't help, that lifting the patents wouldn't help. It's just
Speaker 1: total bullshit. It's wild because, I mean, this is the
Speaker 1: thing that, this is what gives me. This is the
Speaker 1: one great thing that I mean, not the one great thing.
Speaker 1: But this is a very interesting development in this country
Speaker 1: that the president of the United States would go against
Speaker 1: the market, would go against big pharma, and they're wills
Speaker 1: to say no the fuck. You're like, no, we need
Speaker 1: to let everybody make this fucking vaccine so we can
Speaker 1: get the world right. Like what the fucking deal here.
Speaker 1: Took a long time for them to begin to become
Speaker 1: supportive of this idea of waving or of creating the
Speaker 1: patent waivers. But I think it's it's pretty significant considering
Speaker 1: like that of a United States president is going to
Speaker 1: do that. I think that should be sort of underscore
Speaker 1: because also it's funny when you saw the when the
Speaker 1: news broke all the Maderna advice are stuck tucking ship
Speaker 1: Ball Street like fell off a fucking cliff, which shows
Speaker 1: you how this whole fucking like these motherfucker's are saying, oh,
Speaker 1: what they're about to be generous? Yeah, but the tabilized
Speaker 1: because all those millions of over educated people had, you know,
Speaker 1: the talking points to be like, no, this isn't going
Speaker 1: to change anything. Nobody's gonna be able to do this,
Speaker 1: Like they just kept on with that, that same argument
Speaker 1: that this doesn't change anything, that you know, lifting the patents.
Speaker 1: It's wild for me to see how the mainstream media
Speaker 1: has like kind of laid into this. There's been a
Speaker 1: ton of reporting about how foreign like hackers are targeting
Speaker 1: vaccine data. Uh, Like, who the funk cares? Let everyone
Speaker 1: have the formula for a life saving vaccine for fox sake?
Speaker 1: But that's like headlines from Bloomberg cyber attackers leaked COVID
Speaker 1: nineteen vaccine data after EU hack Uh, North Korea accused
Speaker 1: of hacking Fiser for COVID nineteen vaccine data. It's like,
Speaker 1: did we should just give it to everybody? What the
Speaker 1: funk is wrong with you? And jm Our writer pointed
Speaker 1: out that like back in the day, because that was
Speaker 1: my first question is like, well, how did h in
Speaker 1: the nineteen forties, like when the polio vaccine was created
Speaker 1: or whenever the funk that was How how were they
Speaker 1: able to ramp that up so quickly and get that,
Speaker 1: you know, just distributed globally and the vaccine nationalism wasn't
Speaker 1: around back then. You know, nationalism was kind of a
Speaker 1: big deal back in the early twentieth century, but vaccine
Speaker 1: nationalism not so much. Somebody asked Jonah Salk, like, what
Speaker 1: who owns the patent on this vaccine? Uh? Jonah Salk
Speaker 1: said the people there is no patent. Could you patent
Speaker 1: the sun? So okay, you can patent the sun? And
Speaker 1: I'm trying to right now I think is planning to
Speaker 1: do else. It's normalized patting the sun. It's really just
Speaker 1: depressing that people are so shortsighted. The benefit of eradicating
Speaker 1: this virus far out weighs the profit that you could
Speaker 1: make from selling it. If you can you can turn
Speaker 1: the world back on and get everybody back to just consuming,
Speaker 1: then you're gonna make billions of dollars anyway, And all
Speaker 1: of these farmer companies are going to be able to
Speaker 1: create their own booster shots, and they're gonna be vaccinating
Speaker 1: people till the end of time. It's not like there's
Speaker 1: money to be lost. It's just less slightly less money
Speaker 1: than you're already going to make. And I want to
Speaker 1: make this point very clear that other than I believe Fighter,
Speaker 1: all of these companies took government subsidies in order to
Speaker 1: produce these vaccines, in order to develop them and then
Speaker 1: ramp them up for production through operation warp speed. Maderna
Speaker 1: is based on a like combined modified r n A
Speaker 1: study by the National Institute of Health, to the point
Speaker 1: that their name is modified r n A MADA. RNA
Speaker 1: Maderna is what they named themselves after from this one
Speaker 1: discovery made by publicly funded research. They were like, oh, Ship,
Speaker 1: that's a good idea. We're gonna jump on that. We're
Speaker 1: gonna make billions of dollars off of it, and then
Speaker 1: they're gonna tell us to go fund ourselves when it's
Speaker 1: time for them to help the world. Uh yeah, that
Speaker 1: that's a One of the most hugely underrated uh like
Speaker 1: stories in America is how much you know the Internet
Speaker 1: was invented by taxpayer funded programs and ship like that,
Speaker 1: But well, because I mean even though Fiser didn't take
Speaker 1: you United States government money, byon Tech took German government
Speaker 1: funding like and almost in like close like half a
Speaker 1: billion dollars, So regardless, like all of these are made
Speaker 1: through public funding, and so regardless, like because even when
Speaker 1: you look at the projections of the money that these
Speaker 1: companies stand to make, they've already made more than they
Speaker 1: did last year in this first quarter off vaccines. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but they spent that money already. Mouth there's yeah, I
Speaker 1: think the whole fucking of yachts exactly. But that's I
Speaker 1: think what's so poisonous about this, And I think it's
Speaker 1: so odd of the more people I don't know, like
Speaker 1: especially the men, it can't just report on the absurdity
Speaker 1: of how this system is working. Where even like you're saying, Dave,
Speaker 1: you need consumers to keep your capitalist machine going because
Speaker 1: if people too sick, they can't buy your stupid products.
Speaker 1: So it behooves you to have healthy consumers, just even
Speaker 1: in the cynical logic of capitalism or consumer capitalism, have
Speaker 1: healthy consumers with expendable incomes or enough money to give
Speaker 1: away to back to you. But you're still like, well,
Speaker 1: hold on what's going to make more money if everyone?
Speaker 1: Fuck if I funk over the recovery to make a
Speaker 1: little more money on this side, it's just yeah, imagine
Speaker 1: if we have to go back into lockdown in a year.
Speaker 1: Is that gonna be good for the economy. No, that's
Speaker 1: gonna be terrible for everyone. So the sooner we get
Speaker 1: this over with truly or at least manageable, because it's
Speaker 1: will probably never be over with it. It's always gonna
Speaker 1: be a thing because there are enough people refusing to
Speaker 1: get vaccinated that the virus will circulate through the population
Speaker 1: until we're all dead. At least get it under control
Speaker 1: so people can go back to living their lives and
Speaker 1: going on stupid vacations and buying toys at Disneyland and
Speaker 1: all that junk. Yeah, let's just do that. But there
Speaker 1: is such a an obsession in this country with intellectual property.
Speaker 1: Intellectual property matters more than human beings now, Like, if
Speaker 1: you own intellectual property, you own the ability to use
Speaker 1: it and exploit it forever. And that's why you know nothing.
Speaker 1: No movie, character, or book ever goes into public domain anymore.
Speaker 1: Like when Great Cats Be went into public domain. I
Speaker 1: was shocked, but Mickey Mouse will never go into public
Speaker 1: domain ever. Well, I don't know not if you listen
Speaker 1: to the lobbyists at the fucking m p A like
Speaker 1: they have, they have people pushing, They have fucking people
Speaker 1: pushing against this right now because they're like, well, this
Speaker 1: could this is this could be too broad, and this
Speaker 1: could have implications in Hollywood, Like what the funk are you?
Speaker 1: People in Hollywood always say, well, how will this affect us?
Speaker 1: How will thisten Hollywood? Where are you fucking idiots? Just
Speaker 1: if you want to see the power of intellectual property
Speaker 1: law in this country, just look at how many Pinocchio
Speaker 1: movies there are every year, and how many Robin Hood
Speaker 1: movies there are currently in production, Like the two open
Speaker 1: source characters. They're like, we're gonna want a green light
Speaker 1: about forty five of those for this calendar year. Was
Speaker 1: so dumb, They're like, all right, so I guess if
Speaker 1: wait that Maderna, that's uh, that's just public domain, all right?
Speaker 1: Can we can we turn that into a film anyway
Speaker 1: to exploit that? Okay, let's we'll talk about it all right,
Speaker 1: let's talk about her immunity, because speaking of it's bad.
Speaker 1: We talked to a few weeks back about how we were, like,
Speaker 1: you know, it was at peak. Everyone's getting their vaccines.
Speaker 1: We have enough vaccines, they're getting people's arms. Uh, And
Speaker 1: now things have slowed, yeah, I mean and like that,
Speaker 1: the concept of her immunity was like the light at
Speaker 1: the end of the tunnel in the beginning of the lockdown,
Speaker 1: is like obviously, like we're gonna eliminate this this this
Speaker 1: virus through herd immunity, and once we have the vaccines,
Speaker 1: this is how we will go back to normal. But
Speaker 1: things have just changed so rapidly that it doesn't even
Speaker 1: like so in the beginning, the threshold for her immunity
Speaker 1: was estimated to be sixty to sev. That was even
Speaker 1: like Fauci saying that, and like you know what, yeah,
Speaker 1: that seems doable once we get all the vaccines out
Speaker 1: there and things like that. But as the vaccines are
Speaker 1: being like developed and things like that, that the estimations
Speaker 1: began to change. Because the first estimations were based on
Speaker 1: the first sort of original form of the virus and
Speaker 1: what we knew about it and what those transmission rates
Speaker 1: look like. But now that B one one seven is
Speaker 1: the like predominant variant in the United States, that's and
Speaker 1: it's more transmissible. That's now moved our herd immunity threshold
Speaker 1: to be at least eighty percent, So eight of the
Speaker 1: country needs to be vaccinated for us to have any
Speaker 1: semblance of herd immunity. Uh. And if you look at
Speaker 1: the latest numbers, you're looking at about a third of
Speaker 1: Americans that are anti vas right now when it comes
Speaker 1: to the COVID vaccine. So how do you get to
Speaker 1: how you get to eighty if you got third at
Speaker 1: least thirty percent? Saying fuck no, they think some of
Speaker 1: that will change over time, but it's because of that
Speaker 1: and all of the misinformation, we're looking at a very
Speaker 1: difficult way of trying to tackle this, which now just
Speaker 1: seems like inoculating the most at risk. So we're not
Speaker 1: like flooding the hospitals with those people, but it's definitely
Speaker 1: not going to be herd immunity. You're saying that they're
Speaker 1: expecting the third of America being anti vactors to change,
Speaker 1: or they're expecting that need that that third isn't necessarily
Speaker 1: nailed on, Like it could shrink a bit as more
Speaker 1: people realize like okay, like funk it I'll get it,
Speaker 1: but it's hard because there's also another poll that came
Speaker 1: out that a lot of the attitudes of people who
Speaker 1: don't want to be backaccinated is because a they don't
Speaker 1: they don't take the virus seriously, but also be they
Speaker 1: are like, well, all the other herbs are getting vaccinated,
Speaker 1: so I'm good, I'll just post off of them getting vaccinated.
Speaker 1: But assholes, guess what if we're not at the herd
Speaker 1: immunity Like, there's there's no there's no people to draft
Speaker 1: off of uh in your pursuit of not getting vaccinated,
Speaker 1: because we're not gonna that's not gonna be the way
Speaker 1: we're gonna be safe. So the it's actually at this
Speaker 1: point people need to be vaccinated, even that argument, because
Speaker 1: a lot of anti vactors when it even comes to
Speaker 1: child vaccines, are like, well, through the herd immunity, I
Speaker 1: know my child isn't gonna get these illnesses because of
Speaker 1: herd immunity. That logic doesn't apply if we can't achieve
Speaker 1: any kind of herd immunity here anyway. So it's a
Speaker 1: bit of a bit of a weird fucking feedback loop
Speaker 1: that we're in. Um while you know, we're we got
Speaker 1: you know, we're clearly seeing the vaccination numbers starting to
Speaker 1: like fall off a cliff of it. Well, and then
Speaker 1: beyond that, it's why by hoarding the vaccines in America,
Speaker 1: which now I would guess now some of those are
Speaker 1: just going vaccines and vaccine patents. It's like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: guess the other thing that's gonna definitely guarantee this is, Uh,
Speaker 1: even if you're a complete sociopath who doesn't care about
Speaker 1: other people, you can still think of India as just
Speaker 1: a vaccine population or sorry, a COVID like variant generator. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this year number of people, Yeah like that. The commutations
Speaker 1: are yeah, but it's just it's just numbers. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: I guess we just live with this forever. They're all
Speaker 1: just saying, you know, the what we can hope for,
Speaker 1: according to his experts, is like if we can get
Speaker 1: the vaccinations up, that coronavirus is just gonna become something
Speaker 1: that's seasonal that affects mostly the young and healthy. But
Speaker 1: that's about it. Otherwise it's either going to be you
Speaker 1: die off because unfortunately we're vaccinated or what for whatever reason,
Speaker 1: I don't know. So it's it's not a. Ultimately, though
Speaker 1: all the experts are saying we still have to get
Speaker 1: vaccinated just because we can't reach hurt him. It doesn't
Speaker 1: mean the vaccinations are moved at this point. You absolutely
Speaker 1: need to ensure your your own health through vaccination. Uh.
Speaker 1: And don't think that these other ways that you can
Speaker 1: get around it are actually valid because if aren't not
Speaker 1: enough people vaccinated, yeah, one and being one less vector, Right,
Speaker 1: that's the real thing. A marketing campaigns because I know
Speaker 1: they're like conspicuously marketing campaigns and like black people and
Speaker 1: you know, elderly people are there Republicans We've talked about
Speaker 1: the GOP doctors who right, but that is that really
Speaker 1: all we're dealing with is that one like shitty viral
Speaker 1: video that I've for them. It seems like it. I mean,
Speaker 1: there have been a lot of I've been reading a
Speaker 1: lot of There have been pastors um who like in
Speaker 1: the South, like Bible Bell area, who are trying to
Speaker 1: get their congregants to to get vaccinated. There are people
Speaker 1: trying to but I don't know. I think the thing
Speaker 1: that they talked about in this Times piece though, is
Speaker 1: that at the very least people need to be It
Speaker 1: seems like the way people their attitudes change if they're
Speaker 1: around others who aren't talking anti vax bullshit, have gotten
Speaker 1: the vaccine or like yeah, what's wrong, Like it's fine,
Speaker 1: it's normal, it's normal. It's normal. Versus if you're in
Speaker 1: an environment where it's a hot take to bring up
Speaker 1: the vaccine or whatever, it, like, the chance of you
Speaker 1: getting it like just exponentially go down. So that's the
Speaker 1: one hope is to be like talk to your friends
Speaker 1: about it's the it's the peer group. Yeah that like yeah,
Speaker 1: and yeah, I was, I mean, this isn't like white conservatives,
Speaker 1: but like like when I got my vaccines and I
Speaker 1: volunteered at about vaccine distribution, I knew this, but I
Speaker 1: kind of hadn't really processed that. Like so many in
Speaker 1: southern California but kind of a certain generation, so many
Speaker 1: nurses are Filipino, and but they also are like very
Speaker 1: Catholic and very conservative. So it was truly just like
Speaker 1: I wasn't. I was trying to get a gauge from
Speaker 1: some Filipino friends, like are your super conservative parents getting
Speaker 1: this ship? And it was like definitely some people's parents weren't,
Speaker 1: And I was like just an odd, odd juxtaposition of
Speaker 1: populations to me. Yeah, And I think that's what also
Speaker 1: makes just this the herd immunity so difficult, because just
Speaker 1: the geography of the United States and just how different
Speaker 1: neighborhood to neighborhood can because when things like sanitation and
Speaker 1: income can determine what levels of hurt like who needs
Speaker 1: to be or like what levels need to be vaccinated,
Speaker 1: that ship can change within like a mile. So it's
Speaker 1: not it's even harder to think like it's this one
Speaker 1: blanket sort of prescription, although really the prescription is just
Speaker 1: to get your ads of vaccinated. Yeah, yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: the Pope told Catholics to get the vaccination. That should
Speaker 1: that that one should be easy. And the Pope also
Speaker 1: sometimes tells them that the death penalty is wrong and
Speaker 1: that hasn't changed American Catholics very much. Yeah, probably talking
Speaker 1: about on that one. Yeah, which is so funny though,
Speaker 1: because like when you're around like Catholics really funk with
Speaker 1: the Pope, Like if you joke about that ship, they're
Speaker 1: not having it. So but I'm like, well, hold on, man,
Speaker 1: you can't have that energy because I made a pope joke.
Speaker 1: But then you're like selectively being like, I don't I
Speaker 1: don't agree with him on that ship about gay people. Well, right,
Speaker 1: right right, I'm sorry. What all right, let's take another
Speaker 1: quick break and we'll be right back. And we're back,
Speaker 1: and let's talk about some lighter stuff. Such a thing
Speaker 1: to use joke kids. Do you guys see the picture
Speaker 1: of the bidens with the carters right right looking like
Speaker 1: actual human giants next to the carters? It was my favorite.
Speaker 1: It's my favorite photo right now, like the Carter. I
Speaker 1: don't know whether to be terrified of the bidens or
Speaker 1: like really, you know, worried about the fact that the
Speaker 1: Carters are deflating. Yeah, the jokes were pretty funny that
Speaker 1: we're coming out, but I mean, clearly a lot of
Speaker 1: lens distortion. But it's nice to see because I remember
Speaker 1: looking at him like hold on, So they got custom
Speaker 1: built tiny chairs because I'm like, how Joe is stacking up?
Speaker 1: He can't fit in that chair? I think these is
Speaker 1: this a tiny room they had made? But You're like,
Speaker 1: m it's a wide angle. Yeah it's yeah. So I
Speaker 1: did like a bunch of research on not a bunch,
Speaker 1: like twenty minutes of research on just how how this
Speaker 1: happens and finding like pictures that were taken with a
Speaker 1: wide angle versus a you know, regular angle, and like
Speaker 1: the person looks completely different, Like they look like a
Speaker 1: different person, right right, Yeah, sort of destoryan yeah, your
Speaker 1: features and ship. Yeah, like if if you're up close
Speaker 1: to something with a wide angle, like you'll look like
Speaker 1: a completely different person than you normally look like. It's yeah,
Speaker 1: pretty well it was so little though, I mean it
Speaker 1: makes me mad that they aren't that little. I know,
Speaker 1: like I like to think like you just you just
Speaker 1: shrink into a little fun person as you do shrink
Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah, you definitely shrink for sure, But
Speaker 1: like this looks like, you know, Tolkien type ship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I kind of want to see the Carters with jay Z.
Speaker 1: The other card is jay Z and Beyonce and kids.
Speaker 1: I want to see the Carters in the Carters, all
Speaker 1: the Carters. I want to see all of them with
Speaker 1: different families, you know, switch it up. So Ja and
Speaker 1: Beyonce are the tiny one and June and Jimmy are
Speaker 1: like just towering over them, like right, Jimmy Carter. I
Speaker 1: love Jimmy Carter on that dude. So it's peanut fun
Speaker 1: to become president. Yeah, look at him and he put
Speaker 1: up solar panels on the fucking White House. He did,
Speaker 1: and he's had Yeah, and then Reagan took him right down,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, good old Ron was like, it's
Speaker 1: gonna mess up my satellite for my TV show. It's like,
Speaker 1: how I am gonna get the latest track crack Statistics
Speaker 1: to shoot on my roof crack stas at the crack
Speaker 1: ticker in the Oval. Off the scenes. It's wild that
Speaker 1: like they get credit as being like more down to
Speaker 1: earth than Jimmy Carter, because Jimmy Carter let people like
Speaker 1: smoke weed on the roof of the White House. But
Speaker 1: Nancy Reagan was consulting a uh like psychic basically an
Speaker 1: astrology for her shoot her food a hundred times before
Speaker 1: she's swallowed it or something, Yeah it's time to eat,
Speaker 1: Like well, her mom would shoot a hundred times before
Speaker 1: dropping it into her little bird. Yeah. Of Nancy Reagan
Speaker 1: with Mr T. I think Nancy Reagan sitting on Mr
Speaker 1: T's lap. Yeah, captures a moment in time. Any celebrity
Speaker 1: who came to that White House. Every photo looks surreal. Yeah,
Speaker 1: even like that Patrick Ewing one. Yeah, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: John Thompson eighties were a wild, bad but very fun
Speaker 1: to look at era. Let's talk about m d m A.
Speaker 1: M hmmm. So we've talked in the past about how
Speaker 1: therapists who treat PTSD or like very encouraged by early
Speaker 1: trials of m d m A when paired with you know,
Speaker 1: actual therapy. So they finally got this sort of major
Speaker 1: groundbreaking study double blind, you know, had a significant number
Speaker 1: of people, and they found that two months after treatment,
Speaker 1: sixty seven of participants in uh, the m d m
Speaker 1: A group no longer qualified for a diagnosis of PTSD
Speaker 1: compared with thirty in the placebo group. So the placebo
Speaker 1: group got place ebo's but then they also did the therapy.
Speaker 1: So uh, this guy Goal Dolan, who's a neuroscientist, that
Speaker 1: Johns Hopkins who has has like no involvement, is just like,
Speaker 1: from an outside perspective, this is about as exciting as
Speaker 1: clinical trials get. There's nothing like this in clinical trial
Speaker 1: results for neuropsychiatric disease. So yeah, it's just super encouraging.
Speaker 1: I also, I feel like this is something that should
Speaker 1: be a movement over the course of like this entire
Speaker 1: next like generation of humans that like there there's a
Speaker 1: reason people were risking their lives and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: their freedom to self medicate with these drugs. It's like
Speaker 1: they there's, uh, there's something useful and if you use
Speaker 1: them in a very controlled environment, like it's it's going
Speaker 1: to be powerful. Like if you just take seriously the
Speaker 1: experience of drug users who say, actually, like psychedelics gave
Speaker 1: me a really positive shift in like my mental spiritual
Speaker 1: life like that. Like if you think about, like if
Speaker 1: any of the other you know, if like paxel or
Speaker 1: like one of the prozac was taken off the market tomorrow,
Speaker 1: there wouldn't be like a booming paxel or Prozac market
Speaker 1: where like people are smuggling those drugs because they're just
Speaker 1: not like I I think that combining the market uh
Speaker 1: instincts of just like people and like the black market
Speaker 1: with what we're able to find uh through like clinical trials,
Speaker 1: I feel like could be could be a big deal,
Speaker 1: could be really useful to science. I think that the
Speaker 1: thing that makes it really psychedelics advantageous and sort of
Speaker 1: therapeutic context is that, like you know, like when you're
Speaker 1: you're partying on them, what you feel is this like
Speaker 1: openness you know. That's why people enjoy that because it
Speaker 1: it allows you to sort of experience your yourself in
Speaker 1: a way that is completely uninhibited, like you you might
Speaker 1: normally be if you're not taking psychedelics, but and a
Speaker 1: very small level. It's that openness that helps, along with
Speaker 1: the therapy to really examine ship to get through it.
Speaker 1: Because we have so many walls up and trauma causes
Speaker 1: all these fund up ways we try and protect ourselves
Speaker 1: that it's more like, let's melt those walls down so
Speaker 1: we can fucking get like really to some healing um.
Speaker 1: And yeah, it's true. I think the next few years
Speaker 1: are really pivotal because it's almost like we need to
Speaker 1: start Also, we need to have more of a I mean,
Speaker 1: there's clearly a movement to move away from just like
Speaker 1: drugs that are just gonna mask things and actually trying
Speaker 1: to figure out how we can improve things for someone
Speaker 1: rather than to just make things bearable. And I think
Speaker 1: this is a really important step. And for years a
Speaker 1: lot of people have been pointing to this year they
Speaker 1: felt like could be the year where we're gonna finally
Speaker 1: start getting some like legal m d m A to
Speaker 1: start using in these therapeutic settings. Yeah, And I mean
Speaker 1: all you read and here are just like really interesting
Speaker 1: stories of how much it's helped people. And you know who,
Speaker 1: who'd have thought that it would work better than the
Speaker 1: ones that are just meant to sort of numb you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they this one person's experience. I always find like descriptions
Speaker 1: of psychedelic experiences kind of mind blowing because they reveal
Speaker 1: the power of the mind. Like this person describes their
Speaker 1: experience in the therapeutic setting, and it's basically like this
Speaker 1: drug gives him access to a part of his mind
Speaker 1: that just creates this like beautiful surrealist work of art
Speaker 1: that his brain was just producing in the background in
Speaker 1: order to allow him to heal himself. Like, so it's
Speaker 1: talking about this guy Ostrom who was in a rock.
Speaker 1: His days were punctuated by panic attacks. He had nightmares,
Speaker 1: like really vivid nightmares about like being stuck in a town,
Speaker 1: like cut off from his troop and like being followed
Speaker 1: around by insurgents. The bullets like instead of firing out
Speaker 1: of his gun, with like dribble out of his gun. Um.
Speaker 1: And so he like dropped out of college, pushed friends
Speaker 1: and family way got into an unhealthy relationship, was charged
Speaker 1: with assault and attempted suicide. So then he does this
Speaker 1: therapy and they described his sessions. He now says he's
Speaker 1: literally be a different person. During his first of three
Speaker 1: sessions in early twenty nineteen, lying on a couch with
Speaker 1: I shades and in a lucid dreamlike state, Mr Ostrom
Speaker 1: encountered a spinning, oily black ball, like an onion. The
Speaker 1: ball had many layers, each want of memory at the center.
Speaker 1: Mr Ostrom relived the moment in a rock. He said
Speaker 1: that I became the person I needed to be to
Speaker 1: survive that combat deployment. Over the next two sessions, Mr
Speaker 1: Ostrom engaged with quote the Bully as he calls his
Speaker 1: PTSD alter ego, and asked permission for Scott to return.
Speaker 1: That was who he was before the war. Uh. Now
Speaker 1: he worked steadily as an HVAC specialist, owns a home
Speaker 1: which he shares with his girlfriend, has a service dog, UM,
Speaker 1: and he says, the reason I like calling this medicine
Speaker 1: is it's stimulated my own consciousness is conscious is the
Speaker 1: consciousness is ability for self healing? Uh, you understand why
Speaker 1: it's okay to experience unconditional love for yourself like that
Speaker 1: uh for that passage really gets it. Like what I
Speaker 1: find so promising is like the thing that the thing
Speaker 1: that gets in the way of our you know, psychiatric
Speaker 1: uh progresses like that the mind is this massive, powerful,
Speaker 1: constantly shifting uh just more complicated than we could even
Speaker 1: possibly like conceive a thing that we mostly don't have
Speaker 1: access to, like with our conscious mind. And like the
Speaker 1: fact that this just gives you access to this thing
Speaker 1: that's so much more powerful than uh you can you
Speaker 1: can imagine as opposed to like you were saying miles
Speaker 1: as opposed to like numbing one part of that thing
Speaker 1: or you know, separating us from the effects of that thing.
Speaker 1: Like I feel like that is kind of again could
Speaker 1: be like a ce change in yeah, because I think
Speaker 1: it's like almost undoing all of this ship that we
Speaker 1: have since idoly that creates that puts us in the
Speaker 1: condition we're in currently and it and depending in if
Speaker 1: the environments you grow up in your experiences are traumatic
Speaker 1: and things like that, that on top of all of
Speaker 1: this can create a situation where it becomes can become
Speaker 1: nearly impossible to have a level of self examination or
Speaker 1: awareness because you've had to build up so many layers
Speaker 1: to survive and just prolong your experience even no matter
Speaker 1: how tormented it is, that you sort of need this.
Speaker 1: Like again, this idea that experiencing unconditional love for yourself,
Speaker 1: I think sounds foreign to most people, well at least
Speaker 1: in America, Like a lot of people maybe on a
Speaker 1: you know, Pinterest way no loving yourself, but in a
Speaker 1: very truly holistic idea of like what that means to
Speaker 1: engage in, you know, practicing unconditional love for yourself, to
Speaker 1: treat yourself with kindness, to be aware that there is
Speaker 1: a relationship between you and yourself that you have to enrich.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, some of those things that you can
Speaker 1: like feel vibrationally in those moments. Yeah, just reading the
Speaker 1: and you know, silocybin has been used for people who
Speaker 1: are about to die, Like they get to have these
Speaker 1: clinical experiences where they encounter that, and I don't know,
Speaker 1: it just makes me wonder, like why we wait to
Speaker 1: give people a fear of death curing like circumspection pill
Speaker 1: until they're about to die. Like what if our teachers
Speaker 1: and police and leaders and you know, all had the
Speaker 1: opportunity to view the world with that wider lens. Maybe
Speaker 1: we wouldn't have as many soldiers coming home from wars
Speaker 1: with PTSD in the first place, right, Yeah, to consider
Speaker 1: what it means to be human? Yeah, well, and then
Speaker 1: but like then you have people like Elon mostly Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm Mike rudeos all the time exactly right, that why
Speaker 1: became Snake from the Simpsons. But like there's and but
Speaker 1: I think there is like to to pair it with
Speaker 1: like the the desire to improve yourself and having someone
Speaker 1: there to help you with that professionally. I think it's like, man, Yeah, again,
Speaker 1: I hope this will become the norm because we so
Speaker 1: much of our medicine and things like that is just
Speaker 1: to get people to like zero or like neutral, never
Speaker 1: to go past that, or you know, just to make
Speaker 1: things bearable, like rather than how can we actually help
Speaker 1: everyone move pushed past certain things and actually enrich themselves
Speaker 1: From the tech industry, Yeah, yeah, it's funny that the
Speaker 1: tech industry is using this tool for like greater human
Speaker 1: understanding and like circumspection to like it makes me better
Speaker 1: at capitalism, dude, Just like that makes me I'm like
Speaker 1: so much like just on it, you know, in the
Speaker 1: post ready to go thinking outside the box on how
Speaker 1: to exploit all this intellectual property. You know what I mean? Man? Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I came up with n F T S. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's totally totally just trip. I got something, I got
Speaker 1: I got something, get it away from all right. That's
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