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Speaker 1: a brand new life, right, new year, new me. Things
Speaker 1: have changed. There are bad, they ain't good. Uh. If
Speaker 1: you wanna key into my life, check out Nomad land
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Speaker 1: an RV. But I have one nounced to me and
Speaker 1: Frances mcdormott. Uh, actually honestly than the one poor friend
Speaker 1: had in that particular film. But I'm chilling with family. Um,
Speaker 1: the sweet lady and I bought a car. That's a
Speaker 1: house that moves, and now we're bouncing between our fams.
Speaker 1: For now, I think sat plants cooking. But in the
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Speaker 1: I love it. I love it, and someday I'll tell
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Speaker 1: Are you go? What part of what part of the
Speaker 1: country you guys bouncing? Do you like to know? Yeah? God, specifically,
Speaker 1: I'm in nap Okay now in my parents garage in Napa, California.
Speaker 1: I love it up there. I love it up there.
Speaker 1: They got a green screen because it's a reality of
Speaker 1: this can't be. I can't broadcast. I'm in a garage.
Speaker 1: I'm in a garage. I'm in my parents. I'm forty
Speaker 1: and in my parents. I'm in my parents garage. You
Speaker 1: get all the I'm recording. I put the sign on
Speaker 1: the dark guys. Yeah, thanks for asking. I don't want more.
Speaker 1: All right, all right, Caitlin, We're going to get to
Speaker 1: know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
Speaker 1: we're gonna tell our listeners what we're talking about. We're
Speaker 1: obviously gonna be talking about Chicago police, why they can
Speaker 1: go fund themselves, one guy in particular, but just all around.
Speaker 1: I want to talk about guns being like lead poisoning,
Speaker 1: just like a generational problem that has accumulated over time. Uh,
Speaker 1: that we just need to fucking get rid of somehow.
Speaker 1: We will check him with Florida, because that's always good
Speaker 1: to raise the spirits. Uh. We will talk about Joe
Speaker 1: Biden and Netflix, all of that plenty more. First, Caitlin,
Speaker 1: we like to ask our guest, what's something from your
Speaker 1: search history that's revealing about who you are? Oh, I
Speaker 1: think my two the two things I saw immediately when
Speaker 1: looking for my Google search history reveal me as the gay, white,
Speaker 1: fearful person that I am. And it's the two halves,
Speaker 1: gay white and fearful. They search different things. So the
Speaker 1: last two were opening scene from Who's Afraid of Virginia Wolf?
Speaker 1: Because I needed to see sweet lady Taylor say what
Speaker 1: dubh oh? Gardening in the desert was the other one.
Speaker 1: How to grow food and an airic climate was the
Speaker 1: other search. So really preparing for my history of screaming
Speaker 1: winning things into the night as my garden. Right, wow,
Speaker 1: what a combo? What's the are you for me? I'm
Speaker 1: a novice in terms of like I like to garden
Speaker 1: and stuff, but I've always done it like in traditional
Speaker 1: soil beds and things like that. Were you going into,
Speaker 1: like what do you have to do to make ship
Speaker 1: work in the desert? Essentially? Was like, what's it takes?
Speaker 1: Pretty much? Yes, yeah, yeah, what's it takes? What's what's
Speaker 1: the key? What do we do? What? You gotta get water,
Speaker 1: and you you got to use the water if you
Speaker 1: don't got the soil, a good hydroponic system, so you
Speaker 1: gotta get really good at catching and collecting your own water,
Speaker 1: or just except that you live where humans shouldn't and
Speaker 1: use that it's provided to you, you buy are no? No,
Speaker 1: like how it's working out for l A. Yeah really cool.
Speaker 1: We just had to steal people's water from up north.
Speaker 1: Yeah no, I went to Humboldt State and I'm from
Speaker 1: Nappa I know water. I'm here for my water. So
Speaker 1: that's what you want a little bit more about me?
Speaker 1: Screeching couples and food preparation. That's my that's been my bad,
Speaker 1: lay right, I love it. Yeah, that's also going to
Speaker 1: come in handy, I think for the entire world. The
Speaker 1: gardening in the in the desert. Oh yeah, like I
Speaker 1: read uh, this was an interesting year to be Like,
Speaker 1: people are talking about this Parable of the Sower. I
Speaker 1: should read that right, So yeah, my phone looks like
Speaker 1: a character from Parable of the Sower found an iPhone
Speaker 1: and then quickly asked ticket information they were going to need.
Speaker 1: How how soon do you think until we're all eating bugs? Yeah? Like,
Speaker 1: and do you think bug bug eating will be normal before? Oh?
Speaker 1: Absolutely mean I think commercially bugs will be eating them
Speaker 1: before you mean out of necessity in my own life. Oh,
Speaker 1: I picture five years but you mean yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean commercially available, Like it becomes like there's the Taco
Speaker 1: bell fried cricket special. They'll do that. They'll do it directly,
Speaker 1: but it's also going to be just like meat is
Speaker 1: going to mean new things, right, you get like, don't
Speaker 1: worry about it. It's good, savory, tasty, right. I feel
Speaker 1: like first there will be like the crunchy, crispy, snacky version,
Speaker 1: and then which there already is and it is pretty tasty. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then they will get around to being like all
Speaker 1: of our what we use for powder is essentially ground
Speaker 1: up insects come to like grub farms are destroying the
Speaker 1: last patch of the amazons with things. What happened? Yeah? Um,
Speaker 1: what is something you think is overrated? Okay personal due
Speaker 1: to my recent experience, you can tell I've been cleaning
Speaker 1: fucking swiffers can get out, they can go. I'm good
Speaker 1: to brown them up. Why did we Why did I
Speaker 1: get duped in? This is like listening this on tech
Speaker 1: bro being like I've reinvented it. It's a big cards
Speaker 1: that stops at certain points in the city and picks
Speaker 1: people up in mass and that takes them to other destinations.
Speaker 1: That's a bus like I've reinvented it. It's a first
Speaker 1: store where you don't have to buy the book, you
Speaker 1: can take it for a minute in the brief, and
Speaker 1: it's a library Like I just didn't realize that I
Speaker 1: had been conned, and I fought with a swipper and
Speaker 1: nothing got clean until um, the good old moppin broom
Speaker 1: came back. So if it a brooke, don't fix it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think there's just something about like because the commercial
Speaker 1: is like whoa, Like this fiber will kind of attract
Speaker 1: some dust, but it's like old because prior to Swiffer,
Speaker 1: they made a product backwards from a commercial. It's not
Speaker 1: a need. They made a commercial and they saw the
Speaker 1: product and a name. Yeah, that's how movies are made
Speaker 1: these days. Hey, I you know, I gotta remember that.
Speaker 1: Come back out of the parents garage. My mom is
Speaker 1: in full immigrant mode with Swiffer stuff where she got
Speaker 1: bit by the swift for a bug at first, and
Speaker 1: now she just uses the swiffer stick but has a
Speaker 1: towel that she rings out and she uses on the
Speaker 1: on the swift for infrastructure to keep the thing on
Speaker 1: the stick, and I was just buy the things. She's like, no, yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: my mom, right, And I think it replaced the old
Speaker 1: school ones that used to be like the sponge that
Speaker 1: you could like pull the lever back and it would
Speaker 1: like self squeeze itself out where now she's just like, nah, whatever,
Speaker 1: I'm incorporating old towels and the swiffer stick to mop again.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, mops are just hows you pushed with sticks, Like,
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to go that far. I'll take the
Speaker 1: end the media step, but the swiffer forces you to
Speaker 1: go even further back in mop technology, right, yeah, with
Speaker 1: the added bonus that the paper can tear or fall off.
Speaker 1: And I remember also like it also caused unnecessary arguments
Speaker 1: with roommates in the order in which you used things
Speaker 1: where it's like you got a swiffer then vacuum, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't give off fuck what they told you over
Speaker 1: a S. C. Johnson and Wax saw a game. Man.
Speaker 1: This place looks like ship. It doesn't matter if we
Speaker 1: clean up the ship in whatever order we sued clean
Speaker 1: this place. Yeah, the order is not the important part.
Speaker 1: Clean is the important part. If you want anti later,
Speaker 1: you can't right in my opinion, swiffers are you got?
Speaker 1: I'm going back? What about swiper duster for duster. That's
Speaker 1: a duster. You're described suster swiffer dust, but it's a
Speaker 1: swiffer duster swiffer too. The swiffer tooth freshes next. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I do feel like mops. We haven't totally. Swiffer is
Speaker 1: not a better version of the mop. But mops are
Speaker 1: tend to be pretty gross if you don't look if
Speaker 1: you gotta take care of them right. The swiffer trying
Speaker 1: to solve the problem of taking care of your mos
Speaker 1: by letting you throw away a mop head every time,
Speaker 1: then run out of mop heads and hot glue of
Speaker 1: paper towel to your swiffer. It has to be that
Speaker 1: there's no other way to clean this floor except for
Speaker 1: with this paper towel that after check gun that sprays
Speaker 1: windex on the floor as I push a paper towel.
Speaker 1: How else could I possibly accomplish this same task? Didn't
Speaker 1: mean to come to do swiffer, but I'm here now
Speaker 1: fucking swhiffer. I mean, I get it. It's it needs
Speaker 1: to be said. Thank you. What is something, Kaylin, you
Speaker 1: think is underrated. Okay, this is another hot one controversial.
Speaker 1: Nobody's gonna agree with me. It's doing dishes. We're all
Speaker 1: mad at it. It's the most centure. It goes by fast.
Speaker 1: You your hands are all nice and warm, and then
Speaker 1: you lotion them up and they feel all soft and good.
Speaker 1: It is one of the most needs to be done,
Speaker 1: and then it is done tasks. It is satisfying almost
Speaker 1: every time. I have grown to not hate the dishes.
Speaker 1: I am an old lady and I accept it. I
Speaker 1: think if you hate your dishes, revise your perspective. It's
Speaker 1: not it's not that you will do worst tours all day. Look,
Speaker 1: if you hate your dishes, you're probably a swiffer person
Speaker 1: and you buy paper plates because you don't want to
Speaker 1: do dishes. There you go live that light, just embrace it.
Speaker 1: But yeah, but it's also yeah, dud, don't do that,
Speaker 1: or just know who you are. What are you? We're
Speaker 1: in too deep now, we're all I have been a
Speaker 1: Cereal dish hater, right, I'm I'm letting it soak. It's
Speaker 1: soaking than you need to watch the rest of the dishes.
Speaker 1: There is no soaking, no exactly, and yourself. Once I
Speaker 1: crossed over and said, fun, just fucking do it. You're adult,
Speaker 1: Just fucking do it. Do it. The sense of relief
Speaker 1: that comes, like when I start going, yeah, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: suck these dishes up right now. Afterwards, I feel so
Speaker 1: good because you've now eliminated that stupid thing in the
Speaker 1: back of your mind where you're you're deceiving yourself intellectually
Speaker 1: by saying you're letting them soak when really just lazy,
Speaker 1: you know. And now I'm like, all right, well I
Speaker 1: did that ship, so watch your smoke a fucking fatty
Speaker 1: because I do that. After Oh no, I'm always doing dishes.
Speaker 1: I do to reward myself, reward myself. No word, I
Speaker 1: eat my dessert first. You do your dishes extremely. I
Speaker 1: should preface this by saying I do everything very high,
Speaker 1: so I guess doing dishes has a different float. And also,
Speaker 1: I am so all parents are totally excluded from this underrated.
Speaker 1: I am doing my own and my sweet ladies dishes
Speaker 1: and something and the family. I helped the parents with
Speaker 1: their dishes. That's very satisfying. But I know parents, you're
Speaker 1: all excluded from this. But um, I mean not you're welcome,
Speaker 1: but like you do not. You're not under any obligation
Speaker 1: to feel like dishes are cool. But yeah, I slept
Speaker 1: on them as a chore, and now I have embraced
Speaker 1: them as one I don't hate. And I'll say my
Speaker 1: fun underrated very quickly as old people liking pop music,
Speaker 1: I like pop music more than I ever did as
Speaker 1: a kid. It hits harder. I like it more when
Speaker 1: you see those forty year old old ladies and sweatpan
Speaker 1: overalls with light mustaches on the dance floor, when we
Speaker 1: can finally hit it with you just grind with his kids,
Speaker 1: watch everybody, that's not everybody. If some of us look
Speaker 1: like we are purely feeling it, we are, and maybe
Speaker 1: for the first time, so we know you word of
Speaker 1: Montero too. Oh wow, look at you. Wait, So what
Speaker 1: kind of pop music has has gotten under your's going
Speaker 1: to happen? And I was thinking specifically of Little Nozex
Speaker 1: right now, And I'm not going to even attempt to
Speaker 1: name the rest of the charts, because what happens to
Speaker 1: me is I just hear it ambiently now and don't.
Speaker 1: And then a month later I realized I've been listening
Speaker 1: to Harry Styles in the grocery store, just like feeling
Speaker 1: it and I just didn't know. And it'll be like
Speaker 1: older stuff too that I just missed, so like something
Speaker 1: will come on and everyone else in the world knows.
Speaker 1: That's one direction, and I'm like, well, this is adorable
Speaker 1: and I just didn't know. I had no clue. So
Speaker 1: I'm not that I'm good at it. I don't buy
Speaker 1: the Team Bops, but I might like the pop charts.
Speaker 1: Like what you said, you called this ace of bass.
Speaker 1: This is I agree, though it's better now than the
Speaker 1: Ace of Bass era. I would say music is getting
Speaker 1: better better. I think it is. But there's something about
Speaker 1: pop and the shared experience of it that like, I'm
Speaker 1: more open too as an old person who is not
Speaker 1: just like stuff like there's no social currency that now,
Speaker 1: so I'm just like, oh, this is fun. And if
Speaker 1: other old um I turned forty during the core high
Speaker 1: everybody else in eight one, what's up there? He is?
Speaker 1: It's for you too, I promise there was. There's a
Speaker 1: study out that found that a third of people have
Speaker 1: found that doing the laundry has become the highlight of
Speaker 1: their week. I think it has more to do with well,
Speaker 1: I think, first of all, people like repetitive, like zen
Speaker 1: like you know, chores like that. And then there's also
Speaker 1: the thing we we talked a lot about. You know,
Speaker 1: I went to a hospital to get something cut off
Speaker 1: my leg a month ago, and like that was the
Speaker 1: highlight of my week just because I got to leave
Speaker 1: the house and like interact with like the parking garage
Speaker 1: attendant and the nurse who had a playlist going, and
Speaker 1: we got to talk about that, and and like I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that's where people are at. They're just like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, fucking laundromatics. Everyone's got big old folks home energy,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like come visit me, you know,
Speaker 1: like just like but also like blowing it when you
Speaker 1: finally get that coveted social interaction. Someone puts a receipt
Speaker 1: in my hand and I'm like touching their fingertips and
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I gotta I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the starvation, the Bucanalia to come. I mean, I know
Speaker 1: it's tried to observe at this point, but we're all
Speaker 1: gonna just be where do you think we're gonna be
Speaker 1: at like like how the leftovers look, you know, how
Speaker 1: like did you ever see the Leftovers? And they sort
Speaker 1: of hinted at what the vanishing of people did to
Speaker 1: society where it's like people are just these nihilistic parties
Speaker 1: and ship, Like what do you think are what our
Speaker 1: next step is? Yes, so I think it's going to
Speaker 1: be like the world is in their freshman year of college.
Speaker 1: But if for people who already did ship in high
Speaker 1: school younger than they should have, like they didn't have
Speaker 1: a leash on, so there wasn't any strain, there's no
Speaker 1: like burst to their release. But if you were a
Speaker 1: more restrained person or you had to restrain yourself in
Speaker 1: this year, then yes, a leash just got taken off
Speaker 1: of a bunch of wild freshmen. And I think some
Speaker 1: decision making criteria will change, be revised from last year
Speaker 1: with what you might do. I think some of that's
Speaker 1: gonna be fun and awesome and a lot of it
Speaker 1: is going to be sloppy and you know, give a
Speaker 1: little grace, Yeah, hit yourself, slick, have fun, but you know,
Speaker 1: so much fucking laundry next year, Oh man, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be sick. But yeah, we have forty five mass shootings
Speaker 1: in the country. Isn't open yet. It's been a month,
Speaker 1: so like it's gonna be not great high parties, but
Speaker 1: like there's it's not gonna be iverywhere I go. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of different leashes that are going to come off.
Speaker 1: It's not unfortunately, like we hope it's everyone's the same
Speaker 1: on the same good vibes leash that I'm on, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey man, when I'm out there, it's Vibe city,
Speaker 1: y'all is love all day. And then you have other
Speaker 1: people who are have some completely different agenda and yeah,
Speaker 1: we're already you know, we're constantly seeing it. It's just
Speaker 1: what happened in Indianapolis. Yes, it's extremes. If that's everything's
Speaker 1: just going to be at a ten. Yeah, the anger,
Speaker 1: the joy, the rage, the fun, the silliness. But I'm
Speaker 1: totally confident that my old stand up hour is gonna
Speaker 1: land totally without revision. So it's okay, I don't throw
Speaker 1: away the entire life before this, don't worry. Were you
Speaker 1: like building up to an hour and then it like
Speaker 1: went into lockdown. I released an album right before lockdown,
Speaker 1: right in like August two nine, so that was lucky. Um,
Speaker 1: I suppose, but in so many ways. But yeah, man,
Speaker 1: as I look at my set lists and stuff thinking
Speaker 1: about when, you know, after I get vaccinated, which I'm
Speaker 1: yet it's safer and reopen, it's just uh yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a whole new I don't know, jokes ten years old
Speaker 1: look appealing and nothing else, like yeah, just heard about
Speaker 1: these hanging sheds. Its way older than ten years impression.
Speaker 1: So hopefully I can really get my sack space work
Speaker 1: down before I happen at the stage? Who else? Who?
Speaker 1: Who else? Who? Alse almost got stabbed at a Toys
Speaker 1: r Us trying to get one of these furbies at
Speaker 1: the closure of Toys r Us. You got stabbed? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: what's happened in the last twenty years in the shell
Speaker 1: of the Toys r Us where we're currently housed, that's
Speaker 1: where you got right. We're on lockdown and the toys
Speaker 1: are us. Yeah. Hey, is this everyone's first time at
Speaker 1: this FEMA camp? Show hands? Just alright, what's the deal?
Speaker 1: Its interment and then a guard comes off. It's like, heyy,
Speaker 1: what do we say about this material? Gil do the
Speaker 1: ten year old stuff? We were talking to the furby
Speaker 1: stuff what a fuck up world we're headed towards. All right,
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break. We'll be right back, and
Speaker 1: we're back. And at the end of last week, for
Speaker 1: you guys, when we are recording this, the thing that
Speaker 1: everybody on on cable news was talking about was the video,
Speaker 1: the body cam footage of Adam Toledo being murdered by
Speaker 1: a police officer for doing the exact thing that the
Speaker 1: police officer had asked him to do. And there there's
Speaker 1: just this footage of the head of the police union.
Speaker 1: It's never it's never good footage to the head of
Speaker 1: the police union. Oh yeah, after anything, dude, unless he's
Speaker 1: saying like, hey, I'm resigning and we're dissolving to foot union,
Speaker 1: I don't there's nothing they could say that's good, but
Speaker 1: just claiming like, yeah, he did exactly what he should
Speaker 1: have done, like that was nailed it. I've never yelled
Speaker 1: more at my computer than this morning. I mean, I've
Speaker 1: only been able to stomach watching like a sequence of
Speaker 1: still images like that. I'm looking forward because I cannot
Speaker 1: bring myself to watch another innocent person just be killed
Speaker 1: like that. And what the body camp footage that came
Speaker 1: out at the end of last week was clear he
Speaker 1: had no gun in his hands, no hint of a
Speaker 1: gun when he's raising his hands, and then his shot.
Speaker 1: And then then there's like a new clip came out
Speaker 1: the Chicago PD. He was like, we've got actually more
Speaker 1: footage where it shows that maybe he tossed a gun
Speaker 1: or something like that, but the fact remains that when
Speaker 1: he was told to stop and show his hands, he
Speaker 1: was unarmed and complying and still was killed. And then
Speaker 1: you have this fucking guy whatever his name is something
Speaker 1: Cat and Cat and Zara, who's the head of the union,
Speaker 1: just saying the most vile ship out loud as if
Speaker 1: it's like a normal response to being on a new
Speaker 1: show where a thirteen year old child has been needlessly
Speaker 1: killed by the police, but he goes to bat for
Speaker 1: systemic oppression in this clip. No matter who the man is,
Speaker 1: it should matter that the decision in the moment was justifiable.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you'd agree with that. I had started my
Speaker 1: guy I started my dissertation was saying it is justified
Speaker 1: that officer's actions were actually heroic. There's a very good
Speaker 1: reason why he only shot once, Like I said, he
Speaker 1: could have been shot multiple times. But the officer assessed
Speaker 1: in a split second, unfortunately he committed to the first
Speaker 1: shot already justifiably, so he said, he called that ship heroic.
Speaker 1: The fact that killing an unarmed child can even be
Speaker 1: described as heroic should be a fucking attack ad that
Speaker 1: they played to people who still don't fucking at it,
Speaker 1: like this is their mindset that they just said out loud.
Speaker 1: To even that the concept of heroism could even be
Speaker 1: tied to murdering an unarmed child is so fucking offensive
Speaker 1: and backwards. And to hear this guy say it, like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's totally good. So he had eight times of a second.
Speaker 1: I mean, what was he supposed to do? Let the
Speaker 1: kid go, let the kid run away? Yeah, maybe, Like
Speaker 1: what's with this obsession of being like, hey, what did
Speaker 1: I fucking say? Because that's the whole power dynamic of
Speaker 1: a police officer is I get to say a thing
Speaker 1: and you have to fucking listen because I'm a cop.
Speaker 1: And if you don't, then you're going to activate this
Speaker 1: whole other part of my psyche, which is now to
Speaker 1: fucking recapture my power over you by any means necessary,
Speaker 1: up and including killing you. Yeah, this guy, by the way,
Speaker 1: uh filed a false police report against the police superintendent
Speaker 1: for participating in a non violence march. So his position
Speaker 1: as the head of the police union is that the
Speaker 1: police are too nonviolent, too sympathetic to non violence, and
Speaker 1: it's just infuriating that they like the fact that this
Speaker 1: person is still in a position of authority, and like
Speaker 1: when you look at the statistics, like there's been there
Speaker 1: were forty eight officers who were shot last year, um
Speaker 1: who were shot and killed last year, there were they
Speaker 1: shot and killed a little under a thousand people. The
Speaker 1: like those numbers just on their on their face. They
Speaker 1: want us to view them as heroic, and they're much
Speaker 1: more likely to go out and murder someone then be murdered. Like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just like at a very base level,
Speaker 1: I I I feel like we need to have a
Speaker 1: reckoning and a reconfiguration of just like how we think
Speaker 1: about that this whole thing, the police, whether there are
Speaker 1: just in general, I don't I don't think we can
Speaker 1: continue to just view this as the status quo. It's
Speaker 1: just so fucking infuriating. It's this obsession with a fear
Speaker 1: of citizenry when by all measure, property and violent crime
Speaker 1: is committed at a greater rate by the state or
Speaker 1: by commercial institutions. Looking at theft between civil asset forfeiture
Speaker 1: and wage theft, like the odds that you're you're being
Speaker 1: stolen from by the state or another organized entity is
Speaker 1: so much greater than an individual threatening you. We've built
Speaker 1: a society where we believe that individuals post threats to
Speaker 1: us all the time, that we need to protect ourselves
Speaker 1: from somehow by arming ourselves. Are I guess when we're
Speaker 1: asleep and the cops have fucking robot dogs, like there's
Speaker 1: nothing you know that the violence we're afraid of is
Speaker 1: perpetuated all around us by institutions that we trust because
Speaker 1: of TV shows, and it is wild. People still think
Speaker 1: cops are law and order or its like that. The
Speaker 1: hospital is e er and it's not. It is, that's
Speaker 1: not what's happening, but it is. It's terrifying. And I
Speaker 1: am not at a high risk profile as an individual,
Speaker 1: like you know, this is a terrifying place to be
Speaker 1: and I can't imagine the terror in a thirteen year
Speaker 1: old like yeah, I don't know, Yeah, it's just wild.
Speaker 1: I mean, like how both like police and people of
Speaker 1: color walk around kind of with the same fear. Not
Speaker 1: that the police is justified, but people of color I
Speaker 1: do have to walk around in fear for their lives constantly.
Speaker 1: So we're coming back to like Antebelle and bullshit fear
Speaker 1: that like this is white control in the This idea
Speaker 1: that like what white people are losing when they lose
Speaker 1: control over people who aren't white is like the undercurrent
Speaker 1: it like that's what police were and you know, the
Speaker 1: tree is the same as the route it came from,
Speaker 1: and they perceived this threat of like, you know, the
Speaker 1: existence of people who aren't white as being equal to
Speaker 1: a physical threat to them. Like it's existing, it's having
Speaker 1: an air freshener, it's having your hands up, it's walking
Speaker 1: the skittles, it's walking and singing. It's you know, the
Speaker 1: existence is an existential threat to that tree. It's root
Speaker 1: is real, firm and literally white people controlling black people
Speaker 1: that they owned. It's the same the same tree Chicago Pets,
Speaker 1: just a branch hanging out and and you have and
Speaker 1: you hope to God or I mean whatever. At this point,
Speaker 1: it's like what politicians can do. I hope, thank you, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I hope to scaling guilt that even the politicians that
Speaker 1: are there who have the ability, I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: quote unquote to change the laws, it just sucked up
Speaker 1: because they have no idea that they are or they
Speaker 1: do or don't outwardly show it that they don't realize
Speaker 1: they're a part of this cellular at a cellular level,
Speaker 1: they are part of the network that sustains and protects
Speaker 1: systemic racism. And the fact that the people participating in
Speaker 1: the you know, quote unquote representation of the people and
Speaker 1: don't realize that they are part of that thing. We
Speaker 1: can never ever expect anything to change because the game
Speaker 1: is set up that those people get to those positions
Speaker 1: to stop the progress. And as much as we want
Speaker 1: to do scream out, well we can do this or that,
Speaker 1: show me where it's happening, because all I'm seeing is
Speaker 1: the fact that this this state is that's just an
Speaker 1: absolute catastrophic failure and a perversion of what anything should
Speaker 1: look like remotely looking like an organized government. I think
Speaker 1: we're at this with industrial manufacturing and with the way
Speaker 1: we govern and organize ourselves a society. These that like,
Speaker 1: as humans, we've come to new places where we have
Speaker 1: to start asking questions like just because we can should
Speaker 1: we like, you know, do we need to make swippers
Speaker 1: when we have them up? Like evaluating our choices now
Speaker 1: that we've created that this false resource abundance, you know,
Speaker 1: how do we reconcile with all these options and what
Speaker 1: we could and couldn't be doing. It's why Elon Musk
Speaker 1: is landing two rockets while they're still hungry people living
Speaker 1: outside in the same communities where Elon Rusku is landing Rusk,
Speaker 1: I think that better is landing those rockets. It's that's
Speaker 1: madness that we can't reconcile. And the same thing is
Speaker 1: happening with governing, where every system, philosophical or governmental system
Speaker 1: that we have created depends on good actors, and as
Speaker 1: soon as bad actors enter the picture, they are all ruined. Democracy, capitalism, communism, socially,
Speaker 1: whatever way you want to organize yourself. Humans have not
Speaker 1: built a correct uh a mechanism that works that we
Speaker 1: also feel is just to manage bad actors within social
Speaker 1: contracts anywhere. And it's why you can point to free
Speaker 1: system of government and say they don't work, because we've
Speaker 1: not gotten to this place philosophically, where as like a
Speaker 1: community of humans, we're having this conversation about how we
Speaker 1: manage bad actors and systems that can't sustain with them
Speaker 1: because none of them can. You know, you can choose
Speaker 1: to be a good actor in capitalism and you will
Speaker 1: never make as much money as your competitors, and that
Speaker 1: is like a perfectly acceptable loss. But as long as
Speaker 1: there is the option for you to get devoured, then
Speaker 1: it is a tough system. You know, people who make
Speaker 1: other choices have to respect yours, and they don't because
Speaker 1: those are bad actors. We're not good at this um
Speaker 1: and it is a critical reconciling point because that resource
Speaker 1: abundance that is so scarce, it's going to start putting
Speaker 1: so much pressure on the governmental systems that we created.
Speaker 1: And we don't have good mechanisms to answer these questions.
Speaker 1: And it's a big mature conversation that we need to
Speaker 1: have as like a species about how we organized. And
Speaker 1: I don't you know, to say that we're ready for
Speaker 1: that is uh whatever we is even Yeah, but it's
Speaker 1: gonna happen no matter what. The conversation is going to continue,
Speaker 1: whether we have it, it's gonna happen all around us.
Speaker 1: Pandemics storms. Yeah, people have to be most active. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think active and actually critics being critical and their
Speaker 1: analysis of it and trying to actually have the imagination
Speaker 1: for how to move forward, because it just ends with like,
Speaker 1: how could you what else are you gonna do if
Speaker 1: there's no cops? Like, it's that's not don't just end
Speaker 1: it there. Actually think what is the root of crime?
Speaker 1: What does it mean to commit a crime? How is
Speaker 1: the crime defined? What are the motivations of a person
Speaker 1: to go to break the law. Because there's a version
Speaker 1: of it where you can have a suit on and
Speaker 1: do it with a smile and it's all good because
Speaker 1: it's non violent. But when you talk when you strip
Speaker 1: someone down to their basic levels of humanity where food
Speaker 1: or other things and have to happen you, that's that's
Speaker 1: where we're creating the chaos of lack. And if we
Speaker 1: don't address the chaos of lack, there will be no stability.
Speaker 1: And then we can keep following into the same pattern
Speaker 1: of you know, just creating creating revenue for the problem,
Speaker 1: which is what we do here. It's not to solve
Speaker 1: the problem. It's like, well, how do we create more
Speaker 1: revenue for the problem, in this case policing, And we'll
Speaker 1: call it. We'll call it solutions or reforms because at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, it's just more revenue for
Speaker 1: that thing. Policing is a part of the military industrial
Speaker 1: that's the game the whole time. Yeah, is just create
Speaker 1: conflict so that you could fund conflict and spend stability.
Speaker 1: Don't make money. Yeah, there's no profit in peace, So
Speaker 1: why the fund are we going to do it? And
Speaker 1: that's where we need to ask ourselves as people, Well,
Speaker 1: what the fund is profit? If we can't have peace?
Speaker 1: To put myself on the ground, like and I don't
Speaker 1: mean to imply thank you, because I like going to
Speaker 1: space with these thoughts because these are big questions. But
Speaker 1: on the ground, like police, that is, those aren't bad actors.
Speaker 1: That is a bad system. There's no way that policing
Speaker 1: as it exists in this on tree could be reformed
Speaker 1: to like accommodate or mitigate bad actors. It was a
Speaker 1: bad tree like that. One's just gotta go period. Uh.
Speaker 1: And it's like, yeah, there's what do we do without police?
Speaker 1: It's like we don't understand who's stealing from us, and
Speaker 1: we don't understand that it's not punished, and we don't
Speaker 1: understand who to be afraid of wind up afraid of
Speaker 1: each other. So false. Simplest thought experiment is like, are
Speaker 1: you afraid to walk through Beverly Hills? Now? I mean granted,
Speaker 1: I mean as a person of color. That's a whole
Speaker 1: other conversation. But in terms of what you think the
Speaker 1: risk is to your personal body walking through Beverly Hills,
Speaker 1: is that high risk to you? And the chances The
Speaker 1: reason why it isn't is because you're dealing with a
Speaker 1: group of people who are well, unfortunately on another side
Speaker 1: of of having abundance, but they aren't experiencing lack. So
Speaker 1: the things that you need isn't the same set of
Speaker 1: stressors on people that exists there, and that's why they
Speaker 1: don't need We're not We're not applying to same logic
Speaker 1: of like people who are supported, are fulfilled, are happier
Speaker 1: or and have stability or support can actually live a
Speaker 1: good life of of peace and love. Every neighborhood that
Speaker 1: you can't walk through is supporting Beverly Hills. Like mid
Speaker 1: City you can't walk through because all the people who
Speaker 1: work in Beverly Hills to make that livable and support
Speaker 1: those people live in Mid City. And I apologize jumping in.
Speaker 1: It just hurt because I lived on that line where like, no,
Speaker 1: there's a line where supported people are in they aren't.
Speaker 1: Now we don't connect the violence of that Beverly Hills
Speaker 1: neighborhood to the one next to it. We don't see
Speaker 1: them as the same. But like when you're sitting in
Speaker 1: that comfort, you are perpetuating a violence somewhere else. We
Speaker 1: just don't recognize it and we don't take accountability for it.
Speaker 1: And we don't see violence the same way when it's
Speaker 1: distributed by that one step of removal, and we don't
Speaker 1: see violence the same way when it's perpetuated by the police.
Speaker 1: That like when you watch the organized response to peaceful protests,
Speaker 1: the uniforms blind us to what's happening. That those are
Speaker 1: citizens just like us, and if they were wearing something else,
Speaker 1: this is a war and it's love sided in a
Speaker 1: in a terrifying way. Watching journalists get shot in the
Speaker 1: eyes all year, it's like we don't we're not recognizing
Speaker 1: where the violence is frightening. And that security you feel
Speaker 1: in Beverly Hills has a cost, and that cost is
Speaker 1: in other neighborhoods where police are killing people. Because we're
Speaker 1: supposed to be afraid of them. I wanted to raise
Speaker 1: this just the specific role of guns. And you know
Speaker 1: that this is by no means like the where where
Speaker 1: the conversation ends on this, but it does seem like
Speaker 1: something that has been bubbling people just saying we'll disarmed
Speaker 1: the police. Disarmed the police, And I don't know why
Speaker 1: that is not more of like if if the police
Speaker 1: didn't have guns, they would what not like chase down
Speaker 1: somebody who they thought had a gun. Fine, that's good.
Speaker 1: I don't want them to fucking chase down, like get
Speaker 1: into a shootout that might like cause somebody else to
Speaker 1: like get hit by a fucking stray bullet. Like the
Speaker 1: things that there there reasons for having guns are all
Speaker 1: like just living out this fucking macho action hero thing.
Speaker 1: But like just in terms of the statistics, like we
Speaker 1: mentioned the police fatally shot a thousand people during the
Speaker 1: fucking pandemic, like close to a thousand people. The people
Speaker 1: fatally shot forty fifty police officers. In the UK, there
Speaker 1: have been forty police shootings of civilians since two thousand five,
Speaker 1: So that's less than three a year. We were close
Speaker 1: to three a day. Uh in the year the UK
Speaker 1: averages three a year, and that you know, there are
Speaker 1: other countries that have varying levels of And the police
Speaker 1: in England are racist as fun, like that is not
Speaker 1: that is not a problem that they have solved. Thirty
Speaker 1: eight black men are stopped and searched per one thousand,
Speaker 1: compared with four white people per thousand. It's just because
Speaker 1: there's more black people than white people in the UK
Speaker 1: in England right when the cradle of civilization in England.
Speaker 1: But they just sent a cop to jail for two
Speaker 1: years and three months and his careers over for kicking
Speaker 1: someone in the knee and breaking their knee, like obviously,
Speaker 1: like he absolutely deserved to be But that feels like
Speaker 1: the sort of thing that would be a pretty average
Speaker 1: Monday for a cop in the US, and in fact
Speaker 1: would be something that like a renegade cop would do,
Speaker 1: like Caitlyn. To your point about like media that glorifies
Speaker 1: like cops and treats them as heroes, it offers that
Speaker 1: opportunity for someone whose ego has been thwarted by someone
Speaker 1: else's agency to then override that with violence. And that's
Speaker 1: the only job you can do. That The only time
Speaker 1: you say what the fund no now, now, now get
Speaker 1: the funk out the car because I told you to
Speaker 1: do this, and now I can do this because I'm
Speaker 1: that's what it allows, and I think that's what it
Speaker 1: attracts so much, and like these media materials are the
Speaker 1: perfect thing to be, like, right, I can't get pushed
Speaker 1: around when I'm a cop. I do the pushing around
Speaker 1: because that's what it is. Right. Countries like Italy, Greece
Speaker 1: again you know, by no means, like are they They're
Speaker 1: nailing it smooth, but they have more They have more
Speaker 1: officers per capita than any US state, but their officers
Speaker 1: aren't armed, and that makes all the difference. Like the
Speaker 1: body count in America's five times higher than in Sweden,
Speaker 1: thirty times higher than in Germany, a hundred times higher
Speaker 1: than the UK, like on a per capita basis, and
Speaker 1: like somebody's uh. This article by Derrick Thompson, who is
Speaker 1: a writer from the Atlantic who I like a lot,
Speaker 1: points out that like they're doing this warrior cop training ship,
Speaker 1: like it's getting extra violent the training of the police
Speaker 1: at a time that violent crime has declined by more
Speaker 1: than seventy since And his argument is basically that we
Speaker 1: should stop thinking about guns as just an acute threat
Speaker 1: and start thinking about them as something more like lead
Speaker 1: poisoning when we had lead you know, lead paint covering
Speaker 1: our entire country and found out, oh ship, it is
Speaker 1: like really, you know, toxicity that builds over decades leads
Speaker 1: to a host of social and cognitive problems, Like that's
Speaker 1: what guns do. We have been acquiring the accumulating them
Speaker 1: for decades and decades, and it needs to stop, like
Speaker 1: it needs to just go away. And like everybody who
Speaker 1: argues like you'll never get it to happen, like that's
Speaker 1: I don't know, it just seems like that it's too
Speaker 1: clear cut of a problem to just be like, well,
Speaker 1: it's a problem that is too big, so we're not
Speaker 1: even going to think about addressing it, Like it's the
Speaker 1: onion ortled call that comes out with every shooting. No
Speaker 1: way to prevent this, says, only nation where this routinely happens, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, the solutions are all around us, and we
Speaker 1: have very very strange racist reasons for clinging to our
Speaker 1: idea of what gunar like guns are what well organized
Speaker 1: militia is going to keep you safe from the cop dogs.
Speaker 1: Guys like from the Boston dynamics robot warriors that they own.
Speaker 1: What do you think are you going to scale up
Speaker 1: with them? We've stopped, I mean, the it's so trite
Speaker 1: to say that the Second Amendment was written at a
Speaker 1: time when guns were different. But we are now in
Speaker 1: a place where we've stopped asking if we should and
Speaker 1: just do ship we can. And you know, in terms
Speaker 1: of what the debate is of what people own, like,
Speaker 1: what's what's the end game? You know, yeah, what what ownership?
Speaker 1: What private ownership would keep you safe in a state
Speaker 1: where the police already set the model for most armed civilians. Right,
Speaker 1: And the Second Amendment is it gives you the right
Speaker 1: to own and carry a gun. And then but the
Speaker 1: police have the right to murder you for precise exercising
Speaker 1: that right. What knowing you could get shot for holding
Speaker 1: a gun. But that's that sounds like a real good
Speaker 1: reason for me to not carry a gun, for me
Speaker 1: to not own a gun is knowing that if I
Speaker 1: just held it for me. But I mean, yes, certainly
Speaker 1: more risk. People of color. Always always to say that
Speaker 1: people of color getting hurt by police because they own
Speaker 1: weapons directs the attention off the real issue in a
Speaker 1: sinister way. Weapons have nothing to do with white people
Speaker 1: of color get hurt by police. Air fresheners can do it,
Speaker 1: so aren't relevant to that conversation. It cannot be so
Speaker 1: that in a place, in a society where gun ownership
Speaker 1: is legal and protected, holding a gun is enough reason
Speaker 1: for someone to kill you. That's not really how it goes.
Speaker 1: You get one or the other. It's legal to have this,
Speaker 1: or it is a killable offense. It can't exist as both.
Speaker 1: That's not a right. It's not free speech. Is like
Speaker 1: if I can say something as long as it's not
Speaker 1: in front of the wrong person who can then take
Speaker 1: my tongue. That's not how this goes, And even then,
Speaker 1: what is free speech? The Philando Castile killing is a
Speaker 1: really good example of just like the most textbook a
Speaker 1: person could have possibly exercised their second Amendment right. Where
Speaker 1: the cop is approaching asked him to take out his
Speaker 1: identification and license and registration, and he says, so, I
Speaker 1: have to tell you I do have a gun on me.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to pull it out. The guy immediately
Speaker 1: pulls his gun on him and says, don't pull it out.
Speaker 1: Don't pull it out, And he says, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: pull it out. I'm going to get my license and
Speaker 1: registration like you asked me to reaches for that, and
Speaker 1: the guy shoots some seven times. Yeah, look everyone, too
Speaker 1: many people have internalized this white supremacy, this version of
Speaker 1: what a black person or person of color is or
Speaker 1: other is, which is a violent threat um and that
Speaker 1: sort of lack of nuance and looking at people's humanity
Speaker 1: just it makes it easy to just skip a couple
Speaker 1: of steps straight to oh this is I'm fighting the
Speaker 1: predator and I'm Arnold Schwarzenegger, Like what the fuck? Guy
Speaker 1: told you? What the fun was going on? But you
Speaker 1: see dark skin, you hear gun, and now you've connected
Speaker 1: all these dots in your subconscious, meaning this person is
Speaker 1: trying to kill me and now I must act and
Speaker 1: armed with a gun, you walked up to that person's
Speaker 1: car with a gut Yeah, why was that kid running? Huh?
Speaker 1: I wonder why it was unning? I wonder holding a
Speaker 1: gun on him? Just why so nervous? White? So nervous
Speaker 1: um Because you're a police officer and I'm pepper spray
Speaker 1: in my eyes and there's gone a gun in your
Speaker 1: other guy, I think you have a gun in my face.
Speaker 1: You have a gun in my face saying why am
Speaker 1: I in Silver Lake? Yeah, maybe that's why that seems
Speaker 1: like a weird thing because you said my my plates
Speaker 1: said I bought my car in North Hollywood. That's the
Speaker 1: reason you pulled me over. Huh, that's why. All right,
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break. We'll be right back, and
Speaker 1: we're back, and let's talk about Netflix real quick. There
Speaker 1: was an interview with the guy who was calling the
Speaker 1: shots at the time. When is it Is it still
Speaker 1: the same dude? I think so? Yeah, Ted Sranda's yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: So he someone's interviewed and was like, how did you
Speaker 1: come up with the brilliant idea of binge listening? Like,
Speaker 1: how did you predict that that was the direction people
Speaker 1: wanted to go in with our viewing habits? What like
Speaker 1: what was the stroke of Jack into the matrix and
Speaker 1: then predict this? And his answers, Dude, his answer is
Speaker 1: so fucking like why we just think like these people
Speaker 1: are so next level geniuses and they're just like idiots
Speaker 1: who just fell upon a solution. Yeah, he said, I
Speaker 1: never even thought about it. So the reason they're talking
Speaker 1: was because of House of Cards that before this, they
Speaker 1: were sort of lauding how House of Cards really changed
Speaker 1: the paradigm by dumping it all book. If we're going
Speaker 1: to really speak fact, it's Lily Hammer. Okay, Lily Hammer
Speaker 1: did it first with Steve and DVDs did it first?
Speaker 1: Uh TV marathons of road rules over the weekend. Where
Speaker 1: there are are the four fathers of this ba in
Speaker 1: this sense, he said, talking about House of Cards as
Speaker 1: it was the happy accident of happy accidents. When we
Speaker 1: finished the season the House of Cards, we were about
Speaker 1: to launch, somebody asked how we're gonna put it out.
Speaker 1: We had a meeting and they asked, how are you
Speaker 1: going to release it? I said, how do you mean?
Speaker 1: And they said one week, one a week for a month.
Speaker 1: I said, well, everything on Netflix. We got it a
Speaker 1: season after it was on TV and we put up
Speaker 1: the whole season, and I said, well, we can't have
Speaker 1: one show that comes out one a week and everything
Speaker 1: else all at once, so let's just release it all
Speaker 1: at once. And that's how we That's how we did it.
Speaker 1: I was like casual. The answer was like how that happened?
Speaker 1: As a writer, I want to take a pencil and
Speaker 1: push it directly through my eye creators, how the audience
Speaker 1: is going to receive the media. House of Cards happen
Speaker 1: to be an exceptional dingerble show basically a movie made
Speaker 1: by a movie maker. It's like lucky House of Cards.
Speaker 1: But then American TV writers never know how long it's
Speaker 1: gonna go. They don't know really how things are gonna
Speaker 1: air on streamer are so like it is very difficult
Speaker 1: to deliver to the audience and and product when you're
Speaker 1: guessing at how they're going to get it, even more
Speaker 1: than like writing for another director's for director's mission, there's
Speaker 1: like that, but then how does it even get to folk?
Speaker 1: That's just so frustrating that, like executives don't consider how
Speaker 1: people watch, how we get Breaking Bad the whole season? Okay,
Speaker 1: do same for House Cards A little bit. That that
Speaker 1: wasn't a plan in like the creation of the show
Speaker 1: is crazy that they didn't already Necklace still a mailing
Speaker 1: series you were gonna be sending DVDs out, wasn't one
Speaker 1: you had physical media to make. To make this decision,
Speaker 1: an order had to be made. I think the one
Speaker 1: thing that was probably good on his end was like
Speaker 1: in earlier in this interview, he's talking about like how
Speaker 1: they arrived at making Originals is because they're like ship,
Speaker 1: this is picking up steam and it's good for now.
Speaker 1: But when they realize how much money we're making, all
Speaker 1: of the other studios are gonna start making their own ships.
Speaker 1: So we gotta we gotta get aggressive with originals, Like
Speaker 1: fucking now, that is really you know, a pile of
Speaker 1: cash hit the laundry mat. It's that's like a nice backstory.
Speaker 1: But Netflix isn't a mystery. When you sniff like come,
Speaker 1: I like thinking, like it's all it's had to get clean.
Speaker 1: And David Fincher's phone number was on auto Dallas. They're like, hey, man,
Speaker 1: can you can you can you turn this around pretty quick?
Speaker 1: You're like, uh yeah, what's Robin right doing Crown prints
Speaker 1: with a gold DVD on the wall somewhere. Oh yeah, wow,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm not in l A right now, so
Speaker 1: I feel just very free. It's it's that's fine. I
Speaker 1: mean I wish we could turn really integrated business. I
Speaker 1: can say whatever I want, do anything you want. I
Speaker 1: did a reality show for you. I never would get right.
Speaker 1: Where is my Saudi funding? Where is it? Bring it forth?
Speaker 1: Mohammed been sl on, Please but yeah, I mean, I
Speaker 1: think the one thing though, I mean aside from the
Speaker 1: origins of it, though, is truly like it's wild to
Speaker 1: think was like the start point of it sort of
Speaker 1: formally becoming this thing. It's like, yeah, this is how
Speaker 1: we're just gonna do ship now, just dump it on people.
Speaker 1: But it has given me just the ability because of
Speaker 1: I think, to your point, getting like DVDs before, like
Speaker 1: when you'd be like, I don't really watch that show,
Speaker 1: and then you have the fan friend who's like, here,
Speaker 1: take nine hundred of these DVDs now so we can
Speaker 1: talk about this, and I'm like, fuck, alright, fine, this's
Speaker 1: like now with binge watching like that was, I was
Speaker 1: able to like get into a show much quicker because before,
Speaker 1: when you were sort of beholden to, like the the
Speaker 1: flow of the broadcast schedule, I would quickly become cynical, like, man,
Speaker 1: funk that show. I don't care, but it's most like
Speaker 1: I haven't seen anything and I don't have the time
Speaker 1: to be able to watch at all. HBO still does,
Speaker 1: still does the weekly thing every once in a while, right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: they do still care about ratings, which is so bizarre
Speaker 1: to me because I mean, I guess as an elder
Speaker 1: millennial again forty, I am the spear type of the
Speaker 1: millennials into everything. Um, we don't care about when something's on.
Speaker 1: I don't know anybody who isn't a parent of someone
Speaker 1: my age that is still concerned about when something will
Speaker 1: come on. Right, what's a watch on demand world? Yeah,
Speaker 1: being tethered to some day unless like maybe like some
Speaker 1: of the trash reality shows that like I love to
Speaker 1: watch a second it comes out. But other than that, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's completely irrelevant. Parents, haste man, just subscribe. Ma. Well,
Speaker 1: speaking of parents, you can probably hear a car start
Speaker 1: outside the garage, which you know, I could be like guys,
Speaker 1: except they gave me their garage to their car slip outside.
Speaker 1: So sound of a super a roaring in the background. Uh,
Speaker 1: note that my family is going to gather some food
Speaker 1: since I haven't grown anything yet. You failed them, You
Speaker 1: failed him scape, I have I failed as a provider.
Speaker 1: Skateland needs to get on a board and start shredding
Speaker 1: for les so she can monetize monetize this. Do you
Speaker 1: still shred Oh yeah, import come on, come on, come on,
Speaker 1: no idea not doing a pandemic I can't be falling
Speaker 1: on my coxics and needing the services entire paramedics. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't do that. Let's talk really quickly about junk
Speaker 1: food vaccination promotions, because the world is dealing with a
Speaker 1: shocking and balance in vaccine distribution. As many as sixty countries,
Speaker 1: including some of the world's poorest, are probably going to
Speaker 1: be stalled at the first shots of the COVID nineteen
Speaker 1: vaccination vaccinations until as late as June because the whole
Speaker 1: delivery process and just capitalists like global market ethos is bullshit,
Speaker 1: meaning is going to come back and give us all
Speaker 1: polio for this, I feel like it's deserved. But meanwhile,
Speaker 1: in the US, there have been several promotions to encourage vaccination.
Speaker 1: Most famously, Crispy cream is offering a free donut a
Speaker 1: day to get the vaccination, which prompted a backlash since
Speaker 1: eating a donut a day would yeah, and also be
Speaker 1: more likely to kill you then COVID And then okay,
Speaker 1: first of all, don't ut a cops are together because
Speaker 1: don'tnut shops are open twenty four hours. That is a
Speaker 1: service to all of us, not just police officers. Anyone
Speaker 1: can go get a donut any time. It is a
Speaker 1: great equalizer and donut shall not be maligned on my watch,
Speaker 1: no way anything. And if a doughnut a day is
Speaker 1: what somebody, If somebody gets a vaccination to get a
Speaker 1: donut today and eat, that person is hungry and there
Speaker 1: are bigger problems to solve it. If were hungry people
Speaker 1: getting food, we don't get to care about what food
Speaker 1: it is. If Krispy Cream is going to do more
Speaker 1: for hungry people that are vaccinated, and then the government
Speaker 1: is then fucking send him a wheel of cheese, then
Speaker 1: who cool was that? Was like some fitness person who
Speaker 1: was like being like, oh, a donut a day, I
Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, Sam Adams jumped in. Uh, Sam Adams
Speaker 1: is giving people a free punt or free beer for
Speaker 1: getting back for their vaccine cards. Right, It's like we
Speaker 1: literally have to. It's like truly a carrot on a stick.
Speaker 1: People say, hey, hey, vaccine, vaccine, What do you want beer?
Speaker 1: What do you want donut? They're giving pre rolls with
Speaker 1: proof vaccination in Michigan. I love it. And in China
Speaker 1: they're doing by one get one free ice cream cones,
Speaker 1: and they're doing that in Russia too. You get an
Speaker 1: ice cream for you got a little treat. It's just
Speaker 1: the most this story like made me view America like
Speaker 1: we're like view the world. We're just in a giant
Speaker 1: skinner box where people are just like where do we
Speaker 1: move the treats for now? To get the people to
Speaker 1: move r we want them to vaccine. Think that the
Speaker 1: Venn diagram of people who get vaccinated for a donut
Speaker 1: is very small. There's a certain vaccinated people and there's donuts,
Speaker 1: and when those that little circle meets, like everybody wants
Speaker 1: a donut. I just love this thing that like a
Speaker 1: donut a year is a funny idea. I don't know
Speaker 1: who's going to take advantage of it, like you go once,
Speaker 1: like you go get your one treat presumably. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think this is weird. It's very capitalist, just trying to
Speaker 1: get a little like I can see it. You know,
Speaker 1: maybe on my site, show me your vax card ten
Speaker 1: percent off. I do it. It's like I can see
Speaker 1: it as a desperate company ploy to like be of
Speaker 1: this moment in this thing we're all sharing. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: to generate stories like we're doing right now. It's just fine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would love to go to a dispensary that gives
Speaker 1: me a joint because I'm vaccinated. That feels good. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's been a long year. Yeah Israel. Meanwhile, there's you know,
Speaker 1: many of the people are already vaccinated. They're trying to
Speaker 1: get some of the younger people to get vaccinated with
Speaker 1: with some pop up vaccine centers that have free pizza,
Speaker 1: that have DJs that they've hired to create a festival atmosphere.
Speaker 1: They set up one clinic in a literal bar with
Speaker 1: the promise of free drinks to those who got vaccinated
Speaker 1: with Apparently they're non alcoholic drinks, but I feel like
Speaker 1: that comes with a heavy way. Why did you come
Speaker 1: by the bar? You can get vaccinated and then you're
Speaker 1: gonna vote for BB all right, because what we're gonna do,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have the DJs come by. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: it's gonna be lit, everybody. You gotta come down, all
Speaker 1: the kids to tell vive ya. Meanwhile, you know they're
Speaker 1: so they're contriving gimmicks to get people vaccinated, but Palestinians
Speaker 1: have only received enough vaccines for just over four percent
Speaker 1: of the population. So that's yeah. I Meanwhile, I love
Speaker 1: the people in Congress will continue to debate. What isn't
Speaker 1: apartheid state? Really though? Yeah? I don't even spell of that.
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on to something else that want.
Speaker 1: I don't know there's a thh in there. It's too much.
Speaker 1: What else can we get? Wait, it's not thighe. Oh no,
Speaker 1: let's push that. Let's push that bill for another minute.
Speaker 1: Let's yeah, I can't deal with that right now. Well,
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Speaker 1: song that we think you might enjoy. Miles what song
Speaker 1: should people be riding into this fine week? A pipe
Speaker 1: It's actually I'm more thinking of like you know, spoken
Speaker 1: word track, but you know a song Nonethelest by Gil
Speaker 1: Scott Heron, because while when Caitlin was talking about Elon Musk,
Speaker 1: you know, landing all these fucking rockets while we still
Speaker 1: got all this real ship happening upon the earth that
Speaker 1: needs to be dealt with, reminds you of you know,
Speaker 1: really famous piece by Gil Scott Heron called Whitey on
Speaker 1: the Moon. Problem has existed forever, the terrible wrong direction
Speaker 1: of investment. Uh. And it's a very simple piece, but
Speaker 1: always juxtaposing that with all the things we've got going on. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: Whitey's on the Moon, I think really underscores just sort
Speaker 1: of the same frustrations that it's taking us decades to
Speaker 1: be able to work through or begin to realize. So
Speaker 1: Gil Scott Heron, so you know some on that album
Speaker 1: the Revolution begins, but this is called Whitey on the Moon,
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