Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season one, seventy nine,
Speaker 1: Episode four of Daily, the production of My Heart Radio.
Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we take a deep dive
Speaker 1: into America's shared consciousness. It is Thursday, It is April eight.
Speaker 1: It is one. My name is Jack O'Brien a K.
Speaker 1: The Jaws Father a K. Miles rips U Bunk, Jack
Speaker 1: Pounds a due somewhere along day, read the news and
Speaker 1: they'll podcast for you all night. Now you know how
Speaker 1: did daily' sight. That is courtesy of and I'm thrilled
Speaker 1: to be joined as always buy my co host, Mr
Speaker 1: Miles Gray Miles Gray a k a Emil Smith rolling
Speaker 1: up a fatty And for those of y'all that know
Speaker 1: who I'm talking about, you know and shout out to you.
Speaker 1: For those who don't, don't worry about it. But he
Speaker 1: may just be Arsenal's greatest talent, homegrown talent. Maybe he'll
Speaker 1: get the number ten shirt, maybe mar note Guard does.
Speaker 1: We don't know yet, but what we like, what we
Speaker 1: see and shout out to be our x x x
Speaker 1: c K on the discord for that one. You're all
Speaker 1: on our edge of on the edge of our seats.
Speaker 1: He gets that number, the number ten shirt will he
Speaker 1: get it? Is that that's a whether he were okay
Speaker 1: the number ten shirt. It's not like whether he gets
Speaker 1: to wear number ten. Well it is, and it's like
Speaker 1: it means a couple of things. It'll usually mean like
Speaker 1: your most technically gifted player, like that your star player
Speaker 1: will wear the ten because hell A made no Number
Speaker 1: ten famous and then Monadonna were number ten, and so
Speaker 1: ten is like the number for like your for that dude,
Speaker 1: MESSI wears ten now, so because of that, I think,
Speaker 1: but also just like normally the position your number core
Speaker 1: coincided with your position. So one was the keeper, two
Speaker 1: was the right back, three was the left back, and
Speaker 1: ten was sort of your playing maker. Anyway, that's all that.
Speaker 1: Fans of American sports, I think will be interested to
Speaker 1: learn that, because there's like a informal sort of twenty
Speaker 1: three being a big number and then in the NBA
Speaker 1: thirty three for a center, and then football like it
Speaker 1: vaguely corresponds, but then you have some gray area in there.
Speaker 1: Aren't there like some receivers that will wear ten in
Speaker 1: the NFL. Yeah, like where it's like numbers in the tens,
Speaker 1: it's less p eight all the way down to I
Speaker 1: feel like eight. If you're blowing those lines up, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? You? Uh well, Miles, we are
Speaker 1: uh fortunate, thrilled to be joined in our third seat
Speaker 1: by one of the funniest dudes out there doing it.
Speaker 1: He is the hilarious, the talented Stephen Wilburn. It'll be
Speaker 1: a k A the ginger Ale kid a k A
Speaker 1: Scott Mada. Minute ago, I'm the Steve. Now, let's talk
Speaker 1: about some anime jents. Anime. That's what's good you guys.
Speaker 1: Catch that JoJo's Jojo Part six announcement. Boy, I'm ready
Speaker 1: to dive into that stone ocean with bated breath, with
Speaker 1: bated dress. Stephen, last time we saw you we were
Speaker 1: in person. No, he's been on since. Oh you pandemic?
Speaker 1: All right, well that's right, yes, very forgettable. Your last appearance.
Speaker 1: Uh time before that we saw you. I was talking
Speaker 1: about how I how I beefed it real hard. Don't
Speaker 1: remember that at all. There there was a guest recently
Speaker 1: who had been on before, and I fully went into
Speaker 1: it assuming they had not been And really, yeah, my
Speaker 1: brain just doesn't work anymore. No, no offense to literally
Speaker 1: anyone my brain just doesn't work. Apologies, Lake Wexler. Yes, guy,
Speaker 1: that joker, that pack of cards. Oh, man, tell me
Speaker 1: about it, Stephen. Where where are you coming to us from?
Speaker 1: I'm coming to you live from scenic Louisville, Kentucky, all right,
Speaker 1: the home of the car Yeah, home of the cards,
Speaker 1: home of the Home of the Kroger, the Kentucky Derby,
Speaker 1: Home of the Slugger. Yeah. Ups is chili coney cultured
Speaker 1: in northern Kentucky too, like it is? Like, yes, are
Speaker 1: people huge on that? And you know like gold Star
Speaker 1: Skyline chili. Oh there is one that's the chili on
Speaker 1: the spaghetti, right, yeah? Or you have on a hot dog,
Speaker 1: you know, depending on you on two way three way?
Speaker 1: Whoa what do I look like? Sonic the Hedgehog? I
Speaker 1: think it's big. Yeah, I don't know if I haven't
Speaker 1: had it. That's my favorite reasonable food over there to
Speaker 1: make carbs for me. Sorry, but Louisville is a pretty
Speaker 1: cool city, right, It's it's pretty. It's pretty, give it that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's pretty. What's what's like the what's the scenic aspects
Speaker 1: of Louisville? A lot of cemeteries, yeah, yes, like haunted
Speaker 1: a lot of greenery park, Yeah, right right with foliage. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's it's just now like all coming in Winner, Winner
Speaker 1: was kind of poop poo like it. It looked a
Speaker 1: little stinky around here. Language watch your fucking mouth over
Speaker 1: my heart radio knocking your door down right now, that's okay.
Speaker 1: We've got the poopoo filter where we can press the
Speaker 1: button anytime we can sense of poopoo coming on and
Speaker 1: then actually what it does is it for is a
Speaker 1: conversation into nothing but Scott talk as well. The unfortunate
Speaker 1: side effect of the poop filter, that is something that
Speaker 1: has been afflicting our podcast of of late Stephen, is
Speaker 1: that we just get into a subject related to poo
Speaker 1: poo and cannot get off. But we'll we'll try to
Speaker 1: avoid that here. I am the scat man. Yeah, as
Speaker 1: we heard, you know, and whether it's scouting via you know,
Speaker 1: oral verbal scouting and the jazz standards and the traditions
Speaker 1: set forth by the great Kim Cattrall or yourself or
Speaker 1: scat man carruthers, um, you know, get you a man
Speaker 1: who can do both. Yes, thank you, all right, Steve,
Speaker 1: when we're gonna get to know you a little bit
Speaker 1: better in a moment. First, we're gonna tell our listeners
Speaker 1: a couple of things we're talking about today, such as
Speaker 1: we'll talk about something called hygiene theater. We'll talk about
Speaker 1: how we should be preparing for the next pandemic. Why
Speaker 1: Canada's vaccine rollout sucks so bad? This is just Layton
Speaker 1: uh pandering to the American audience who have had nothing
Speaker 1: to gloat about for yeah, even still, but I mean,
Speaker 1: come on, we we gotta get it where we can.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about Matt Gates's requests towards the end of
Speaker 1: the Trump administration for blanket pardons and you know, the
Speaker 1: new context in which we can view those catch up shortages.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about how to take care of yourself after
Speaker 1: you've been vaccinated. We might even talk about some some
Speaker 1: Hollywood goss all that plenty more. But first, Stephen, you know,
Speaker 1: we like to ask our guest, what is something from
Speaker 1: your search history that's revealing about who you are? Uh?
Speaker 1: Feces right? What is it? Facus? I don't know I
Speaker 1: saw this word f e c s. Lately, I've just
Speaker 1: been trying to find a vintage March Simpson T shirt
Speaker 1: that isn't a hundred dollars. Wow mm hmmm, because the
Speaker 1: Barts I'm assuming are the market is flooded with Barts,
Speaker 1: but not a lot of Margins. I love a good
Speaker 1: you want to get the bootleg barts, those are great,
Speaker 1: like forty nine Bart and stuff or Jamaican Bart, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: those are gold, But I just I want to Marge
Speaker 1: like Marge. Yeah, you can't even find like a bootleg
Speaker 1: one because what you're talking about, You're just do you
Speaker 1: follow that bootleg Simpson's account on I G. That's all
Speaker 1: like bootleg Simpsons merch. Yeah, they're just post It's so funny,
Speaker 1: like they're the ones like from Freak Nick nine three.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I love seeing black Bart Simpson. But yeah, Margin,
Speaker 1: you can't find like even a you know, want you
Speaker 1: want a bootleg Bart, but I want a real Marge.
Speaker 1: You know. Wow? Wow? Interesting? Did you did y'all see
Speaker 1: that one TikTok video? Daniel shared it with me of
Speaker 1: that one comedian or she just has a TikTok account,
Speaker 1: but she does like Marge Simpsons voice so well. The
Speaker 1: title of it is if Marge Simpson was in the
Speaker 1: Godfather instead of Marlon Brando. Have you seen that clip? Oh?
Speaker 1: My god. Well, I'm gonna play it for you all
Speaker 1: because it's so fucking funny, is it, Julie Cather? No,
Speaker 1: it's at slow puke on TikTok and just just watch
Speaker 1: this clip really click the massacred my boy. Yeah, oh
Speaker 1: my god, that's exceeded expectations. I never thought something as simple,
Speaker 1: but yeah, well we need that. Give me that bootleg
Speaker 1: shirt as Don Corleone marche Corleoni. Oh my god. That
Speaker 1: is uh it's the my boy, that that bridges the
Speaker 1: two worlds. You know, I love to see it. The
Speaker 1: Simpsons did one of those sopranos, uh my okay, like
Speaker 1: yeah right, I'm sure they didn't do an opening the
Speaker 1: woke up this morning with March driving around from the
Speaker 1: grocery store. But no, I'm not, like, remember there was
Speaker 1: that really influential sopranos, Like I think it was like
Speaker 1: a billboard or like a magazin black and white photo.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah yeah hit one family on one side
Speaker 1: and the other family on the other. And then I
Speaker 1: think any TV show had to had to do a
Speaker 1: take on that. How many are you a Do you
Speaker 1: have a Simpsons te for like every day of the week?
Speaker 1: Are you is that kind of That's what I'm trying
Speaker 1: to right now. I'm at a I'm at a solid zero.
Speaker 1: Oh wait, no, I just got this one. Uh great,
Speaker 1: great audio. Is that Kira Millhouse shirt? Yeah, Kira, it's
Speaker 1: like and Millhouse is just being like shot to pieces
Speaker 1: on the Yeah. Yeah, um, I'm glad we can get it.
Speaker 1: Some anime talking, what is something you think is overrated?
Speaker 1: Dog clothes? But not because it's just clothes for dogs,
Speaker 1: but the that they put the front of the clothes
Speaker 1: on the back of the dog. M hmm, I think
Speaker 1: is unacceptable and should not be allowed in fashion. So
Speaker 1: you're saying, like if it were like a tuxedo, the
Speaker 1: lapels and stuff on the back so you can put
Speaker 1: so it's visibly like a tuxedo. You're like, dogs, this
Speaker 1: is for the This was mcdaddy or daddy mac? Which
Speaker 1: which which one are you served? I want my dog
Speaker 1: to look like Christopher Cross, not Criss Cross. Okay, it's
Speaker 1: when it took seedo. Yeah, what the fund is that?
Speaker 1: Why do they do that? Yeah? I mean, I mean
Speaker 1: I understand why they do it, but well it's made
Speaker 1: it's for you then, right, Yeah, it's not for the dog.
Speaker 1: When the dog walks into the club. Yeah mm hmm, yeah,
Speaker 1: what the funk? What then we need? I mean, until
Speaker 1: we can train our dogs to be bipedes, you know.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately that's just where fashion is going to be for them.
Speaker 1: Which maybe we'll motivate them to pick up bipedal motion
Speaker 1: um as a species because the purps are better fashion options. Okay,
Speaker 1: I think that's that's an opening shot case right there.
Speaker 1: My old dog, Miles could walk on two feet for
Speaker 1: a pretty pretty long period of time and it was
Speaker 1: really yeah, kind of freak people out. Like you would
Speaker 1: be like, all right, Miles, let's go, and he's just like, well,
Speaker 1: you had to. You had to kind of had something
Speaker 1: about this, right. It wasn't like a two or nine ship.
Speaker 1: It was like that, oh bide engaged. Yeah, Oh, I
Speaker 1: saw there was a video of like I think it was.
Speaker 1: I saw reddit like a cat or a dog that
Speaker 1: was raised in like with a bunch of mirror cats
Speaker 1: or some ship. So it learned to just stand on
Speaker 1: his hind legs because in its younger in its younger days,
Speaker 1: it used to stand on his legs, but around these
Speaker 1: other mirror cats and it was just very casually had
Speaker 1: this upright vibe that was kind of startling to to
Speaker 1: look at it. Sounds like no mirror cat. It was
Speaker 1: a dog. Like I said, now you've done it, Steven,
Speaker 1: Uh the can we go off Mike really quick just
Speaker 1: to talk about this guy? Ok? Is this guy's no man? Yeah?
Speaker 1: What off Mike and read me to filth there. There's
Speaker 1: also a video of a dog that is missing its
Speaker 1: front two legs and walks around on his back legs.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure everyone's seen that, but it is uncanny
Speaker 1: and troubling to say the least. What is something you
Speaker 1: think is underrated? Stephen. I don't know if you remember
Speaker 1: when this happened, because I don't. I think it probably
Speaker 1: within the past ten years. But somebody thought to put
Speaker 1: a little reservoir in the laundry detergent bottle, like at
Speaker 1: the at the top where the nozzle is, there's now
Speaker 1: like a little like hole where there. Yeah, the excess
Speaker 1: can drip back into the bottle. And it's just like,
Speaker 1: give that person a MacArthur whoever whoever thought of that
Speaker 1: genius grant. So it's like a little moat around the
Speaker 1: Is that what you're talking about? Well, they normally and
Speaker 1: there there. There used to be just straight mote. So
Speaker 1: after you pour the detergent in the washing machine, you
Speaker 1: put the cat back on the like a lot of
Speaker 1: it just stays in that reservoir. But then somebody arrested
Speaker 1: to put off put a hole there, so it all
Speaker 1: drips down and it's like MoMA mina. Yeah, we're not
Speaker 1: wasting because yeah, I remember back in the day, like
Speaker 1: my childhood idea of a laundry detergent bottle was it
Speaker 1: just cascading down the sides of the bottle, And then
Speaker 1: we got the moat, which only half solved it. And
Speaker 1: now we're fully into the restorative return funnel of the
Speaker 1: top of a laundry detergent bottle unless you're using pods
Speaker 1: or some ship. Yeah, hopefully we can put a man
Speaker 1: on the moontain next yeah, hopefully maybe the next up,
Speaker 1: maybe medicare for all. That's the whole if we can
Speaker 1: solve that problem, maybe we can may or maybe not.
Speaker 1: I don't know. We'll see, maybe tide will lead the
Speaker 1: way on that. You guys, pod people, you pods, stupid
Speaker 1: potting is my whole life, bro. Oh you mean detergent pods? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, that's popular party drug. Yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: have it all depends. It's like if I'm at a store,
Speaker 1: I've i've, i've, I've used, I've bought both in the
Speaker 1: last year. The one I like is the one that
Speaker 1: has oxy in it, because I like to use oxy clean.
Speaker 1: You know, keep in mind my socks a little bit brighter. Um.
Speaker 1: But you know whatever, I don't really have a preference
Speaker 1: for me laundry. M hm. I go with liquid dishes. Wow, wow, interesting, Okay,
Speaker 1: we have a reason to it. We have a dishwasher
Speaker 1: that specifically requests, like must have signed some sort of
Speaker 1: endorsement deal way up the line, specifically requests a platinum
Speaker 1: Cascade pod. Please, Mr O'Brien, what is this? Stop mistreating
Speaker 1: me and it it's like not equipped to use it.
Speaker 1: It like the pod doesn't fully dissolve when you wash it.
Speaker 1: It's a really it's it's a corner. It's like I
Speaker 1: must use this and then and you're like, fine, asshole here,
Speaker 1: and then you just have like a bunch of dehydrated
Speaker 1: plastic after you run dishes. It's like the kid who
Speaker 1: bakes his mom for the large fry, Like, you know,
Speaker 1: I can finish it. You had three and you have
Speaker 1: a belly ache. Alright, asshole, that's why. That's why you
Speaker 1: don't get the thicker holder. It's only the ones that
Speaker 1: come into paper holder, the little itty bitty fried right.
Speaker 1: M all right, well, uh, funck my dishwasher. I guess
Speaker 1: have you tried. Yeah, that did actually, actually that no,
Speaker 1: I think nullified your warranty, right, which is right. That's
Speaker 1: where my wife said, Uh, and you know you just
Speaker 1: assumed it would morph into the maytag guy the machine.
Speaker 1: I don't know, a repair person may come out in
Speaker 1: a few minutes. All right, let's take a quick break.
Speaker 1: We will be right back. And we're back, and the
Speaker 1: CDC is getting a little caddy. I think the CDC
Speaker 1: is getting a little uh you know, cocky, maybe feeling
Speaker 1: so they're saying enough with the hygiene theater, assholes. Not
Speaker 1: not in those words exactly, but they're they're basically making
Speaker 1: the point that we have now equipped all public spaces
Speaker 1: with hand sanitizer. Leave it like it's a sacred space,
Speaker 1: and the hand sanitizers candles. It's just hand sanitizer lined
Speaker 1: up everywhere you go. And they're like, but we know now,
Speaker 1: like we figured out months into the entire pandemic that
Speaker 1: foe mites the like. You know, versions of the germs
Speaker 1: that are on objects are not the way that things
Speaker 1: are getting spread. You guys know this. So they is
Speaker 1: all about again with the dog having the front of
Speaker 1: it shirt on its back, this is all about how
Speaker 1: it makes you feel, not It's not for the the
Speaker 1: virus uh and the actual safety of the people around you.
Speaker 1: It's just about making you feel safe. I wonder if
Speaker 1: there's a correlation between seeing someone in a hazmat suit
Speaker 1: like pressure spray a seat down before you sit in
Speaker 1: it that makes you feel like you don't need to
Speaker 1: wear a mask, you know what I mean, Like what
Speaker 1: the relationship is of hygiene theater versus relative like recklessness
Speaker 1: because of hygiene theater. But also I think, and it's
Speaker 1: like kind of an interesting thing too because it's a
Speaker 1: lot of it was good advice in the beginning, and
Speaker 1: then I think maybe whatever businesses took it to a
Speaker 1: certain point to have customers feel good. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I know personally, if I saw a guy in a
Speaker 1: hazmat suit pressure wash a bench and was like, all good,
Speaker 1: you can sit down now, Yeah, I wouldn't be like
Speaker 1: no thanks, I'd be like, thank you, sir, thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you very much for your service, because I would
Speaker 1: feel bad that he had to come to writing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it seems like we don't even have to do that
Speaker 1: because what's like the transmission rate was something really low,
Speaker 1: like one in ten thousand. Possibly they think from surfaces
Speaker 1: like as they looked into you know, super spread or
Speaker 1: events and like the dynamics and who caught it from who,
Speaker 1: It just seems like it's almost exclusively airborne, right, And
Speaker 1: this this jerk, Jose Louise Jimenez, who is apparently an
Speaker 1: atmospheric chemist, whatever the funk that is. I was saying
Speaker 1: that if we took half the effort that's being given
Speaker 1: to disinfection and we put it on ventilation, that would
Speaker 1: be a huge shift. People would be getting less sick.
Speaker 1: But you can't see clean, see clean, to see people
Speaker 1: cleaning their hands, yes, but I can't see. That's why
Speaker 1: the happening didn't go well, that's why that movie was
Speaker 1: a flop. Or you have like human powered ventilation systems
Speaker 1: for people to connect the dots like, oh yeah, those
Speaker 1: people are on those bikes to help ventilate, and that's
Speaker 1: the new equivalent. Because I can see that, I can
Speaker 1: see the work being done. Now I feel better. But yeah,
Speaker 1: we just get to just clean the fucking air. Yeah,
Speaker 1: or get really loud ventilation systems that have like a
Speaker 1: voice that's like ventilation on engaging. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: All right, Miles, you've been putting in some thought, uh
Speaker 1: into and by that I mean you read a New
Speaker 1: York Magazine article. Yeah, this is a podcast. So what
Speaker 1: I do is I will read a thing, process it,
Speaker 1: and then be like, you know what I read recently.
Speaker 1: Do not appreciate that impression of me, but go ahead.
Speaker 1: That was that was It was like, yeah, it was
Speaker 1: like Andy Rooney mixed with Tucker Carlson and Leno, you know,
Speaker 1: I think all together it was like the delivery. So
Speaker 1: there's a piece of New York Magazine that sort of
Speaker 1: lays out the timeline for how we got this current
Speaker 1: crop of vaccines Maderna, Visor Johnson and Johnson, etcetera. And
Speaker 1: they were all assembled around January, and trials began about
Speaker 1: a month later. Just to read an extra from this article,
Speaker 1: quote in Massachusetts, the Maderna vaccine design took all of
Speaker 1: one weekend. It was completed before China had even acknowledged
Speaker 1: that the disease could be transmitted from human to human
Speaker 1: more than a week before the first confirmed coronavirus case
Speaker 1: in the United States. By the time the first American
Speaker 1: death was announced a month later, the vaccine had already
Speaker 1: been manufactured and shipped to the National Institutes of Health
Speaker 1: for the beginning of its Phase one clinical trial. So
Speaker 1: meaning we had the vaccines the whole time people were dying. Yes,
Speaker 1: And that's not to say, like, you know, what the
Speaker 1: funk we had the vaccine the whole time. It's more about, like, obviously, yes,
Speaker 1: their need to be safety. The safety and efficacy studies
Speaker 1: are massively important because even if you have something like
Speaker 1: one percent reactions that that could have been fatal in
Speaker 1: the United States, that would have been three million people
Speaker 1: dead off the vaccine. So on some level, like, yes,
Speaker 1: we need to exercise caution. But this whole article sort
Speaker 1: of raises the question like could we have done things
Speaker 1: differently given the fact that we had we like we
Speaker 1: were kind of getting ahead of it. We had it
Speaker 1: and we were trying to test it. Like China, they
Speaker 1: were already vaccinating their military. In June of Russia began
Speaker 1: rolling out their vaccine in August, and there's definitely a
Speaker 1: sense of like risk avoidance that's healthy. But when you
Speaker 1: also consider like the f d A was authorizing things
Speaker 1: like hydroxy chloroquine and rembissevere um like through emergency authorizations,
Speaker 1: and they were totally ineffective and for in the case
Speaker 1: of hydroxy chloroquine actually very harmful. It makes you wonder like,
Speaker 1: how how can we be um a little bit more aggressive,
Speaker 1: how we're trying to roll things out or get ahead
Speaker 1: of it. And maybe it's at least partially because I
Speaker 1: I always go back to this article where somebody used
Speaker 1: the like crash analysis, like how when how they explain
Speaker 1: air crashes after the fact and like look at every
Speaker 1: system that contributed to the crash and then like do
Speaker 1: a dive into like so how do we prepare or
Speaker 1: how do we keep these from happening next time? And
Speaker 1: it was like so much of what they found was
Speaker 1: just like preventable Trump administration ship, right, And even just
Speaker 1: like going to that like the fact that we got
Speaker 1: these late night infomercial cures out to the public before
Speaker 1: we got the actual vaccines. It's like, maybe maybe we
Speaker 1: don't elect a scam artist. Yeah, And not to say
Speaker 1: like you know, it should have or absolutely could have
Speaker 1: been rolled out early. I mean, I think a lot
Speaker 1: of people will be asking questions given the amount of
Speaker 1: people who passed a A. But I think that's where
Speaker 1: a lot of like in the science community, they're really
Speaker 1: trying to take this as like they're you know this
Speaker 1: one person who was sort of commenting on the article
Speaker 1: is saying, like the difference between what war warfare looked
Speaker 1: like in ninety eight versus what it looked like in
Speaker 1: and knowing like you gotta go through some ship like
Speaker 1: this to really figure like, oh, we're absolutely like we
Speaker 1: actually need to completely rearrange things. And so one of
Speaker 1: the big things is like right now, Um, there's a
Speaker 1: vaccine scientists at Mount Sine Hospital who's saying, when you
Speaker 1: look at these pandemics or illnesses that go from animal
Speaker 1: to human, like in terms of transmission, there are only
Speaker 1: a small number of ways for that to happen in
Speaker 1: Influenza and coronavirus are the pretty much the biggest contributors.
Speaker 1: So there's a way to get ahead of it. Um,
Speaker 1: And this expert was saying, what you could address most
Speaker 1: of the risk of new pandemics by mapping and prepping
Speaker 1: vaccines for between fifty and a hundred viruses. He says
Speaker 1: you could have banked vaccines for all of them at
Speaker 1: a cost between one and three billion dollars, and saying,
Speaker 1: if you just have these, you know, fifty to a
Speaker 1: hundred virus vaccines, you can get ahead of it, start
Speaker 1: doing efficacy testing, safety testing, and then do with what
Speaker 1: we're doing now, which is sort of try and fine
Speaker 1: tune it based on like you know, now the pharmaceutical
Speaker 1: companies are trying to figure out booster shots to keep
Speaker 1: up with mutations. So at least if we have the
Speaker 1: groundwork done very quickly, then we can sort of we
Speaker 1: can skip ahead to the steps that we really need
Speaker 1: to make the vaccine like tailor made to whatever illnesses
Speaker 1: out there. So it's just like a very it's a
Speaker 1: lot to think about. But these are things that I
Speaker 1: had not really understood because for the longest time it
Speaker 1: was like, we're waiting for a vaccine until we find
Speaker 1: the vaccine, knowing it was that we were just trying
Speaker 1: to make sure that it was as safe as possible. Well,
Speaker 1: many people passed away, but when you look at a
Speaker 1: lot of you know, like polio or other vaccines, they
Speaker 1: typically come at the end of the you know, the
Speaker 1: cycle of the outbreak UM and this is unfortunately a
Speaker 1: moment like that, I mean versus like one they could
Speaker 1: like sort of stop in its tracks being like polio
Speaker 1: what oh talk, No we call that no leo Now
Speaker 1: with this vaccine. No, it's gonna take a little bit
Speaker 1: of time. But yeah quote yeah Jay sulk in the building,
Speaker 1: no leo. Um, yeah, it's it is. I think I
Speaker 1: think people I'm definitely surprised to learn that they basically
Speaker 1: had the vaccine the whole the whole time, and we're
Speaker 1: just testing it too, too, Like I had some sense
Speaker 1: that that was true, but I didn't realize that it
Speaker 1: was like locked in. Like how many of the vaccines
Speaker 1: that they tested were like did have negative reactions? I wonder,
Speaker 1: you know, like yeah, I mean they say that that
Speaker 1: process saved us from but well, the testing is necessary,
Speaker 1: you know, figuring out if it's safe. I think I
Speaker 1: think we could have done a lot of things like
Speaker 1: in um adjacent departments, you know, logistics, how we're going
Speaker 1: to distribute it, Like I think that could have all
Speaker 1: been twinned sooner. And while there was a long time
Speaker 1: table before the the vaccine got approved, like we could
Speaker 1: have been better prepared to to actually ship it out
Speaker 1: and get it to pile. I think this kind of
Speaker 1: goes along with even like the last story of Hygiene
Speaker 1: Theater is that it's also important for the science community
Speaker 1: to be as transparent as possible too, because you don't
Speaker 1: want to read some ship like they knew in January
Speaker 1: like what the vaccine was, and it's not that they knew,
Speaker 1: but they were working on it very quickly. But there's
Speaker 1: also something to saying like yeah, like we had to
Speaker 1: make sure next time this is like what's going to happen,
Speaker 1: or saying like hey, we know we said spray everything
Speaker 1: the funk down. We realized, you know, this is actually
Speaker 1: what's going going on, because I think that's also I
Speaker 1: think there are people who are willing to just trust
Speaker 1: the science community and others where a little bit more
Speaker 1: work has to be done because they're not, as you know,
Speaker 1: focused on what it means the processes of research where
Speaker 1: it's like more like the sciences like, hey, we're the
Speaker 1: ones doing the work way out ahead. So in the
Speaker 1: process we we learned ship and we realize some other
Speaker 1: ship we thought was true. Isn't that's just the scientific method.
Speaker 1: But I think allowing for like that sort of transparency
Speaker 1: would just kind of also helped build more trust. Not
Speaker 1: that I'm like, I'm completely skeptical now, but I think
Speaker 1: that's an important thing for the science community. I think
Speaker 1: they're also coming to grips with that idea as well
Speaker 1: of saying, like, there were things we got wrong, there
Speaker 1: were things we didn't know, and what can we also say,
Speaker 1: like how can we communicate these things clearly so people
Speaker 1: understand where we're coming from in our research. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think anytime you're doing this abstract thing where or any
Speaker 1: time you're doing this messaging thing where you're viewing the population,
Speaker 1: is this abstract like kind of heard of animals that
Speaker 1: you have to like get this messaging, you know, hide
Speaker 1: certain things and reveal certain things. I think that that
Speaker 1: is based on the myth that undergirds like all of
Speaker 1: American society, which is this like elitism that's like, well,
Speaker 1: only the people who went to Ivy League schools can
Speaker 1: be interd r and so we have to be the
Speaker 1: only ones who know it. And it's it's actually just
Speaker 1: like a self justifying like bullshit, you know, it's a
Speaker 1: way to kind of keep the logic of American capitalism intact,
Speaker 1: and it's it's actually really harmful, like it people, if
Speaker 1: you tell the truth, just like tell the people what
Speaker 1: what is actually happening, like, you're gonna have much better results.
Speaker 1: But it just seems like that doing that is like
Speaker 1: undercuts everything they want to tell them, want to believe
Speaker 1: and tell themselves about like how elitism works. I think
Speaker 1: there's a fine line too, between like encouraging you know,
Speaker 1: best practices and then going overkill with that sort of paranoia. Uh,
Speaker 1: hand sanitizer in every corner because the more like the
Speaker 1: more visible that stuff is and the more everybody shoves
Speaker 1: down your throat, Hey, wipe down all your groceries, wash
Speaker 1: your hand, Like that's gonna cause so much burnout, Right
Speaker 1: when when we are all vaccinated and there hasn't been
Speaker 1: any new case that people are going to be like, well,
Speaker 1: fuck hand sanitizer for the rest of my life. Right,
Speaker 1: there was that point. There's a point early on and
Speaker 1: even the hygiene theater piece kind of from the AP
Speaker 1: talks about this that like they got it rolling at first.
Speaker 1: They were like, wipe your groceries down, don't waste masks
Speaker 1: if you're not you know, a frontline worker. And then
Speaker 1: at a certain point they're like, oh, Ship, we got
Speaker 1: that totally wrong. But yeah, there wasn't that. Oh Ship,
Speaker 1: we got that Like that should have been the headline
Speaker 1: on the New York Times. Oh Ship, we had it
Speaker 1: totally wrong. Like we acknowledge that we're figuring this out
Speaker 1: as we go and like just not putting that right
Speaker 1: out in front and like assuming that you were handling
Speaker 1: like it's this like whole pr thing. It's like, well,
Speaker 1: how do we message that we got it totally wrong.
Speaker 1: It's like just say you got it wrong and that
Speaker 1: we're like now fixing that we're reacting to new information,
Speaker 1: and just assume that people can fucking deal with that,
Speaker 1: because anytime you're like hiding it or soft pedaling it
Speaker 1: or like doing something some sort of like jiu jitsu
Speaker 1: with the with the fact, it opens it up to
Speaker 1: you know, the other side of the administration being able
Speaker 1: to manipulate Ship and actually lie about it. It's because
Speaker 1: they treat us like kids. So it's like how your
Speaker 1: parents only tell you some shit about drugs rolling up
Speaker 1: and oh really, oh really, yeah are getting around You're like, man,
Speaker 1: they didn't know shit about what the funk were they
Speaker 1: talking about because they were just trying to protect you
Speaker 1: or whatever. And I think that similar relationship of like
Speaker 1: not giving everybody the truth and being like, well, we
Speaker 1: need to say this in order to sort of keep
Speaker 1: this certain behavior up. Also isn't a good relationship to
Speaker 1: have with like the mat like you know, the masses
Speaker 1: and the science community, not to say that it's all bad,
Speaker 1: because yeah, I get it, Like they also don't want
Speaker 1: to undermine themselves by unfortunately saying like we got that wrong,
Speaker 1: and because because they know that will in some people's eyes,
Speaker 1: undermine their expertise, while other people who you know, understand
Speaker 1: what experimentation works and research is that it's something that's evolving,
Speaker 1: um over time. It could have also been a straight
Speaker 1: up priority thing, like they were like, well let them
Speaker 1: have their hand sanitizer. We're too busy telling people not
Speaker 1: to drink bleach, right, you know, Yeah, there weren't a
Speaker 1: lot of great options real because then I guess it's
Speaker 1: like a parent who's like, Okay, we have our one
Speaker 1: kid we really love who's smart and gets it, knows
Speaker 1: what science is. Then we've got that other fucking kid
Speaker 1: who if we get one thing wrong, they're gonna be
Speaker 1: eaten tide pods again. So we got to split the
Speaker 1: difference and just give blanket guidance that we know if
Speaker 1: they follow this at the very least, that will mitigate
Speaker 1: some sort of transmission risk. But yeah, yeah, it's tough,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure there's legal liabilities that are like beyond
Speaker 1: our understanding, but like that's just a it's that our culture,
Speaker 1: like things like that have become so complex that it's
Speaker 1: just like we we do at at a certain point
Speaker 1: just be like tell people the truth. They can they
Speaker 1: can deal with it. Yeah, but even though we're in
Speaker 1: a post truth era, it's like no, but I mean
Speaker 1: this seems like one where it was pretty clear cut,
Speaker 1: like in terms of the the pandemic and like what
Speaker 1: just like get get the information to people and as
Speaker 1: quickly and as in and in as straightforward a manner
Speaker 1: as possible, or they like could could frame it in
Speaker 1: a different way rather than saying like, hey, we were
Speaker 1: looked about this like like guess what, due to new
Speaker 1: information we've got, we're announcing fuck hand sanitizer day. Or
Speaker 1: to say I think the difference is not saying right
Speaker 1: or wrong and using that binary. But you're learning, You're
Speaker 1: we are learning. We have been struck with an a
Speaker 1: virus that has not been known to us, and we
Speaker 1: are learning about it as time goes on. We have
Speaker 1: now learned that the initial analysis that we thought that
Speaker 1: there could be surface transmission is actually it's okay. Now
Speaker 1: that's what we have learned. Now, are you guys gonna
Speaker 1: be mass people going forward? Like when you fly on
Speaker 1: an airplane, are you gonna bring a mask? Rock a mask?
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm gonna be masks from here on out?
Speaker 1: What do you mean? Like why? Like, oh, just because
Speaker 1: like thinking that the pandemic is over, therefore cast your
Speaker 1: masks off beef. So No, I mean, I just think
Speaker 1: it's seems like good practice, Yeah, on an airplane, given
Speaker 1: that theirs over every single time I fly, Like that's
Speaker 1: right exactly, And like I think the few times I
Speaker 1: get like I've been gotten really sick, it's been from
Speaker 1: air travel, um, so and I'm like, what do I
Speaker 1: need a mask for? Meanwhile, there's like someone just with
Speaker 1: a whose fever sweat is like getting all over the
Speaker 1: back of my head, and I'm like, yeah, one other
Speaker 1: kind of way that vaccine responses being complicated. Uh, that
Speaker 1: we're we're seeing in Canada. Um, so Canada is actually
Speaker 1: to our writer Jam McNab is, uh, you know, live
Speaker 1: in Canada and for most of the he's Canadian. Yeah,
Speaker 1: lives in Canada. And Miles, I don't want to out him,
Speaker 1: you don't want to admit him. Yeah, come on, man,
Speaker 1: how do I say this? He's located in Canada, his
Speaker 1: physical location is Canada. How do I say is he's
Speaker 1: like a Blue Jays fan if you um smells of
Speaker 1: h But he's pointing out that, like the tables have
Speaker 1: turned of late and now the CDC has issued a
Speaker 1: level for travel advisory warning people from the US to
Speaker 1: stay the funk out of Canada. And a big part
Speaker 1: of the reason is because of just a really fucked
Speaker 1: vaccine rollout. Uh. And it's also like he doesn't explicit
Speaker 1: you call this out, but there seems to be a
Speaker 1: lot of ways in which like they suffer from some
Speaker 1: of the same issues we have where um, you know,
Speaker 1: they used to have these big factories in the seventies
Speaker 1: that would have been great at producing vaccines and just
Speaker 1: like getting things off the ground, and then they because
Speaker 1: they didn't like make money during non pandemic years, sell
Speaker 1: it off to foreign companies, and like now they don't
Speaker 1: have factories to make vaccines, and it's just all you know,
Speaker 1: we've seen this the tailor as old as time. The
Speaker 1: logic of letting international markets fucking run your entire like
Speaker 1: every aspect of your culture, Like it doesn't work out
Speaker 1: so well when your society is hit with a big
Speaker 1: like unexpected pandemic. It's also like unfortunate too because for
Speaker 1: all the things that is, Americans are like, oh man,
Speaker 1: like fuck yeah, Canada like do that ship like you know,
Speaker 1: set the prices of drugs, you know, like so it's
Speaker 1: not you're not people aren't getting gouged. That like also
Speaker 1: unfortunately had the the fucking the effect of pharmaceutical companies
Speaker 1: being like, oh do we don't want to funk with
Speaker 1: Canada because they're all like trying to advocate for their people.
Speaker 1: So it was like because of that, yeah, just like
Speaker 1: a really fucked up relationship. But where that's where you know,
Speaker 1: big pharma will sort of lash out because you're trying
Speaker 1: to ensure equitable outcomes for your citizens. Yeah, that's right,
Speaker 1: don't look forward to that. I told you so, finger
Speaker 1: wag from people against universalcare. Trudeau pitched the idea of
Speaker 1: manufacturing the Fiser vaccine in Canada, but the company wanted
Speaker 1: to move as fast as the speed of science would
Speaker 1: allow uh, and Canada lacked the necessary capacity to manufacture
Speaker 1: the vaccine UH in quantities. I mean, it's it's basically
Speaker 1: what we said before, because they head factories that weren't
Speaker 1: profitable and didn't you know, stay in business yeah, through
Speaker 1: the seventies and eighties. I mean yeah, it's just like
Speaker 1: it has so many layers of the ills of our
Speaker 1: modern world on it too, where that you can, if
Speaker 1: you're a uh, progressive person, you'd be like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: what the fuck that the fun big pharma, which I
Speaker 1: think is the cry of most people on this planet.
Speaker 1: And then just kind of underlying the fact that even
Speaker 1: a huge nation like Canada then becomes dependent on these
Speaker 1: like external providers of the vaccine and how that can
Speaker 1: exacerbate their vaccine rollout and just us in the US
Speaker 1: being like, no, we're keeping all the vaccine. Yeah, yeah, potentially,
Speaker 1: that's I mean, which is also another very Americans, fuck
Speaker 1: everybody else, it's ours. Although we did we did loan
Speaker 1: them some vaccines I think was word. Yeah, they just
Speaker 1: have to give it back, to give the vaccines back
Speaker 1: to us that they're done with. All right, let's take
Speaker 1: another quick break and we'll be right back to talk
Speaker 1: some Matt Gates, the subject that keeps on giving lock
Speaker 1: the Gates, and we're back and all right. So more
Speaker 1: continues to be revealed about Matt Gates and his you
Speaker 1: know what, what his time and power has been like,
Speaker 1: and people are now taking a second look at how
Speaker 1: he was behaving towards the end of the Trump administration, uh,
Speaker 1: specifically when the only thing that anybody really cared about
Speaker 1: within the Trump orbit was whether they were going to
Speaker 1: get pardoned, because that's you know, that's what. Yeah, some
Speaker 1: pieces were like yeah, I think so. It just looks
Speaker 1: it's as it's almost as if he knew what was
Speaker 1: going He almost it's as if he knew the person
Speaker 1: he was and the liability that he faced, because two
Speaker 1: weeks after the election, Gates was just out there saying like,
Speaker 1: you gotta pardon fucking everybody before the radical left get
Speaker 1: the radical left gets their clause in you. And it's like,
Speaker 1: what and that Matt Gates a quote he should pardon
Speaker 1: the Thanksgiving Turkey. Uh, he should pardon everyone, from himself
Speaker 1: to his administration officials, you know, to Joe Exotic if
Speaker 1: he has to. And I was like, what the fun? Okay,
Speaker 1: so you want everyone pardoned for everything? And I mean
Speaker 1: it felt like, Okay, that just seems like a very
Speaker 1: normal Fox News he kind of take of just sort
Speaker 1: of like fear of the left. Yeah, but then you
Speaker 1: find out and this other this new piece in the
Speaker 1: New York Times. So his quote in the final weeks
Speaker 1: of Mr Trump's term, Mr Gates sought something in return.
Speaker 1: He privately asked the White House for blanket preemptive pardons
Speaker 1: for himself and unidentified congressional allies for any crimes that
Speaker 1: may have been committed, like the download avengers, Like if
Speaker 1: they torranted right right right, that's probably It's almost like
Speaker 1: he knew that he had committed these crimes almost. I mean,
Speaker 1: according to you know, the timeline of this investigation, it
Speaker 1: may have it sounds like it may have begun sometime
Speaker 1: in the summer of so he may have known. He
Speaker 1: may have been sweating for quite a bit of time.
Speaker 1: And when you just sort of look at his behavior
Speaker 1: throughout Trump's term, it really kind of looks like because
Speaker 1: you're like, Damn mc gates is doing the fucking most
Speaker 1: right now just to get on his good side. Although
Speaker 1: where everyone was like, yeah, he's probably racist, like all
Speaker 1: of them, Yeah, probably that too, but also a sick
Speaker 1: of fan who had like eyes on something may be
Speaker 1: down the road to really align himself with Trump, because
Speaker 1: if you remember, he threatened Michael Cohen Um and like
Speaker 1: they referred it to the Florida Bar because they're like,
Speaker 1: this is witness intimidation. He remember he stormed the fucking
Speaker 1: skiff during the first Um impeachment hearing when there's a
Speaker 1: Testimo gonna with all those other idiot Congress people in
Speaker 1: the ordered pizza and shipped to completely disrupt the hearing.
Speaker 1: He regularly made an ass out of himself, debasing himself
Speaker 1: at the feet of Trump, which got him a lot
Speaker 1: of FaceTime, you know what I mean, Like his status
Speaker 1: came up because like it seemed like his formula was
Speaker 1: the more I ride for Trump, the closest I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get to him, and now my stars going up, And
Speaker 1: it was I think a lot of other people in
Speaker 1: Congress like what the where did this motherfucker come from,
Speaker 1: because he was doing a lot to get on Trump's
Speaker 1: good side, and I just wanted There's this. In the
Speaker 1: New York Times article, they have an excerpt from Matt
Speaker 1: Gates's book, which I think again shows you just how
Speaker 1: close he wanted to be to Trump. This is from
Speaker 1: Matt Gates's book that he wrote, quote, the President has
Speaker 1: called me when I was in my car, asleep in
Speaker 1: the middle of the night on my long Worth office,
Speaker 1: caught on the throne on airplanes, in nightclubs, and even
Speaker 1: in the throes of passion. Yes, I answered, that's important too,
Speaker 1: because that was a school night. Yeah, I mean, like,
Speaker 1: what the funk this guy? I mean, he's really I
Speaker 1: think you're seeing sort of this relationship and what he
Speaker 1: was looking for. So, yeah, it doesn't look you don't
Speaker 1: look very innocent, sir. And now he's trying to like
Speaker 1: fund raise off of the um uh, like you know,
Speaker 1: these investigations, like he's sending out to his constituentcy like
Speaker 1: like a legal defense fund or just I don't even know,
Speaker 1: Like it doesn't even matter. It's it's gonna go straight
Speaker 1: to his pocket anyway. So whatever they call it, it's
Speaker 1: just there's but he I mean unless he gets actually prosecuted,
Speaker 1: Like he doesn't really have any incentive. It seems like,
Speaker 1: you know, the Cuomo playbook seems to be pretty successful.
Speaker 1: Like I I'm I'd be surprised if he actually steps
Speaker 1: down unless he's uh actually indicted. Yeah no, I mean
Speaker 1: why would It seems like the same with Cuomo is
Speaker 1: just gonna be like what okay, Well, yeah, there's a
Speaker 1: calculus to it. It's like if I, if I have
Speaker 1: a certain amount of support or whatever, and the alternatives
Speaker 1: don't seem as appealing, then I'll just deny, deny, deny,
Speaker 1: and I'll get through the bad press and then I
Speaker 1: can still, you know, stay in office and be an
Speaker 1: absolute violator. Yeah, alright, let's talk about ketchup. Thank god finally,
Speaker 1: am I right? Uh, we are experiencing a nationwide ketchup shortage,
Speaker 1: which you know, I felt like it was only a
Speaker 1: matter of time because there, in my opinion, there's only
Speaker 1: one good brand of catchup, and you know that that
Speaker 1: creates a I'm gonna go ahead and say a bottleneck.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, where uh you should have tapped to the
Speaker 1: fifty seven? Then yeah, I guess America should have tapped
Speaker 1: the fifty seven. But yeah, so what why how's the
Speaker 1: pandemic causing? Uh, there's so many like it's all the band. Okay. So,
Speaker 1: first of all, when sit down restaurants, essince you became
Speaker 1: take out restaurants, that just made individual catchup packets the
Speaker 1: go to condiment that people you were sending people off with. Second,
Speaker 1: because of the precautions, even if you had some form
Speaker 1: of dining, they were saying, you know, let's avoid having
Speaker 1: shared condiment bottles on tables just to keep everything as
Speaker 1: sanitary a spot. Give people packets, don't allow them to
Speaker 1: put their fork or knife or whatever, and to catch
Speaker 1: up bottle and then like leave that for the next customer,
Speaker 1: and to keep going up. So there are other things
Speaker 1: because of this. Packet prices have gone up because the
Speaker 1: demand is so high. The demand for packets was already
Speaker 1: up by in July of last year, and it's only
Speaker 1: been trending upward. And a lot of restaurants have been,
Speaker 1: you know, not doing well because, like you're saying, Jack Kraft,
Speaker 1: Heinz is, it's the best catchup we got, and um,
Speaker 1: a lot of the like this research firm was saying
Speaker 1: because of that. Heinz holds nearly seventy percent of the
Speaker 1: market for like the ketchup market, because it's just acknowledge
Speaker 1: of that and because of its large share, that's what's
Speaker 1: sucking up like the entire condiment sort of industry when
Speaker 1: it comes to catch up, because they're the biggest one
Speaker 1: and they're now like hinz is full on create like
Speaker 1: in an emergency mode, creating like additional manufacturing lines to
Speaker 1: help keep up with demand. Because at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, what this all means is nobody likes hunts
Speaker 1: catch up, right, Yeah, it just doesn't have that. So
Speaker 1: you're saying that um sitting on a gold mine in
Speaker 1: my kitchen drawer. Yeah, yeah, this is exactly what my
Speaker 1: Korean mother in law has been preparing us for for decades.
Speaker 1: But this it sounds very similar to what caused the
Speaker 1: toilet paper shortage. Is that it's pretty much the same
Speaker 1: type of the same level of consumptions taking place. It's
Speaker 1: just different delivery mechanisms and the delivery uh manufacturing chains.
Speaker 1: So like the toilet paper that was in public places
Speaker 1: that were no longer open or you know, public restrooms
Speaker 1: that people were no longer using, all that toilet paper
Speaker 1: was no longer necessary and everybody needed, you know, the
Speaker 1: take home kind, and this is just basically need that
Speaker 1: for ketchup, you need the the take home kind and
Speaker 1: not the public consumption kind. Yeah, but if you're a
Speaker 1: g you were out there stealing toilet paper from public restrooms, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, or if you're if you're smart,
Speaker 1: you're taking handfuls at the burger stand getting ready. But
Speaker 1: it's funny because yeah, right, Well that's the other thing
Speaker 1: is that like a lot of companies have shifted to
Speaker 1: just like trying to buy it, like just boxes of
Speaker 1: it and then putting them in smaller containers to still
Speaker 1: be able to give because people a lot of these restaurants,
Speaker 1: like therett there are a few interviews like bar like
Speaker 1: sports bar, tavern type places whose main you know, dishes
Speaker 1: fries and burgers, and they're like and like this one
Speaker 1: owners like there's no way I could have sent anything
Speaker 1: but Hinds out with the food, Like I just in
Speaker 1: for the years that this place has been open, it's
Speaker 1: always been Hinds and like it was just funny. You
Speaker 1: also reading how like restaurant tours are like having this
Speaker 1: ideological thing of like I'm not gonna like give people
Speaker 1: and these there's some other weird ships the burger, right yeah,
Speaker 1: people are totally fine with is pepsi Okay, right, right, man,
Speaker 1: I've come to I'm at the point now where I
Speaker 1: will just get a regular pepsi over if they asked
Speaker 1: me if diet pepsi's okay, that's how much I don't
Speaker 1: like die pepsi so much worse than diet coke. I
Speaker 1: will give myself diabetes over drinking diet pepsi. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: look to teach their own still like caffeine free diet pepsi.
Speaker 1: Gold can, Yeah, that's the best. I love that flavor
Speaker 1: because I always drank that was like it's called brown water.
Speaker 1: Like she hated the fact that she had to drink
Speaker 1: it the gold can though. It was like a flex
Speaker 1: to me. Shout out Nana McMahon. You know my friends,
Speaker 1: my homie's grandmother who always had that in the refrigerator.
Speaker 1: I'm be like, yo, this ship is popping, bro I
Speaker 1: never had in the gold can, but all nuts. So
Speaker 1: it does seem like we are headed for a next
Speaker 1: month or so where most people where the most people
Speaker 1: in America are going to be getting vaccinated, especially in
Speaker 1: our listener group. Um, like I I signed up yesterday
Speaker 1: for a just to get like notified when I would
Speaker 1: be able to do it with the City of Los Angeles. Uh,
Speaker 1: it seems like people are like taking those sorts of
Speaker 1: steps to be like, oh wow, this might actually be
Speaker 1: a reality very soon. So Miles, you put together just
Speaker 1: like kind of some notes on based on like how
Speaker 1: people have reacted to the vaccine to this point, like
Speaker 1: what in general, Like, yeah, because you know a lot
Speaker 1: of people like as as it just opens up, you
Speaker 1: see more and more anecdotes that people have been like Yo,
Speaker 1: the fucking first one floored me or the second one
Speaker 1: floored me one more often. But yeah, and it all
Speaker 1: depends and I mean all the there's certain certain traits
Speaker 1: or whatever physiology that sort of determines those things. But
Speaker 1: there are just like, uh, you know a couple of
Speaker 1: things to like keep in mind. First of all, that
Speaker 1: those side effects are completely normal. So don't think, like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, what's happening. It's because your body it's
Speaker 1: it's activating your immune system and you're like downloading new
Speaker 1: software to your immune system, being like this is just
Speaker 1: the motherfucker you're trying to protect meat meat COVID nineteen
Speaker 1: and it's like your body is just reading the dossier.
Speaker 1: So yeah, your might your body might be reacting. But
Speaker 1: you know what, that's a good sign because that means
Speaker 1: your immune system is responding. Um. But then there's other
Speaker 1: other questions like can you get out? Can you drink alcohol?
Speaker 1: Is one I think a lot of people just in
Speaker 1: general like has been out there and yes, you can
Speaker 1: drink alcohol. There's if you you can check out the
Speaker 1: articles and the footnotes. But one of these experts saying
Speaker 1: yes you can drink alcohol, it doesn't the vaccine is
Speaker 1: not there's no interaction between alcohol and the vaccine itself.
Speaker 1: But also take it easy, don't. Don't. Don't. Also, just
Speaker 1: like go on a bend, just because you can drink
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you can get the gap. Okay, you gotta
Speaker 1: take it eas because at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: your body is going through a full on process. So
Speaker 1: here's some things you should do for nausea. Get the
Speaker 1: the the ginger tea or ginger ginger, whatever whatever you
Speaker 1: need for your stomach. That's a great thing. Um. Do
Speaker 1: not do anything like fast or anything drastic like juicing
Speaker 1: or a detox amiss that again, your body is going
Speaker 1: through a process and you want to hydrate as much
Speaker 1: as possible, hydrate yourself with healthy fluids. And they said,
Speaker 1: if you want to even get ahead of it, they
Speaker 1: said this one doctor was saying, if you had a
Speaker 1: diet like sort of Mediterranean diet that was more like
Speaker 1: anti inflammatory and focused on that, you can a like
Speaker 1: the response to the vaccine has shown to be better
Speaker 1: in other like vaccine studies and also may help you
Speaker 1: with you know, those little things like the headaches, um
Speaker 1: and other ship that can come along with the vaccine.
Speaker 1: Now have they are there any findings around if you
Speaker 1: smoke a cigarette after getting the vaccine will pack in
Speaker 1: a bigger buzz um Um. It depends on giving that's
Speaker 1: true of giving blood. Uh So that's always I always
Speaker 1: rush outside, you know, smoke a couple of SIGs if
Speaker 1: you can power hit it. And if you remember, the
Speaker 1: power hit is where you put it between your pinky
Speaker 1: and your ring finger knuckle and then you comp that
Speaker 1: against your other hand and you're just mainline naked shout
Speaker 1: out telling my power hitters out there of cigarettes who
Speaker 1: tried to get a cheap buzz produced Anta Hosnie just
Speaker 1: saying yeah. Overall though, don't be partying on the vaccine
Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, you want to
Speaker 1: keep your immune system up, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: at the end of they take care of yourself. Used
Speaker 1: this as a time too, if you have the you know,
Speaker 1: ability to to just go easy and stay hydrated. What
Speaker 1: do they say about um licking door knobs, because once
Speaker 1: I get my second fouci Auchi, I'm gonna go hang out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've seen your TikTok where it's just I have the
Speaker 1: tiger and you're at a home depot licking all the
Speaker 1: door knobs on just play and you're like getting ready
Speaker 1: to a colonial one in my mouth. Oh, here's a
Speaker 1: glass one loved those? Um yeah, I mean there's a
Speaker 1: lot of things that are that are going to be
Speaker 1: possible for for a lot of us. Steven, Yeah, mine
Speaker 1: has just been an idea. I was saying this on
Speaker 1: Fiance with Sophia. I really just want to eat corn
Speaker 1: on the cob in a crowd, in a crowd, just
Speaker 1: for whatever, very specifically, that feeling of having like a
Speaker 1: lot or some kind of big corn on just some
Speaker 1: corn cob and have people walking by me. I have
Speaker 1: no mask on. Feels like just about the level of
Speaker 1: freedom I'm ready for right now, crash of funeral, thank you,
Speaker 1: he lived, how he died, he died, Corn on the cob,
Speaker 1: in the crowd, before we move on to the next store.
Speaker 1: I do. I just want to say, don't don't. Don't
Speaker 1: smoke after giving blood. You can get the same effect
Speaker 1: from just spinning around doing spinny bad. It just makes
Speaker 1: you dizzy. Uh nicked Nickeote's bad? Yeah, quick quick, but yeah,
Speaker 1: also hit a pack of filter list Marboro. I do
Speaker 1: want to say, because I like started smoking when I
Speaker 1: was like a teenager because I thought it looked cool
Speaker 1: and uh look we were products of the eighties and night. Yeah,
Speaker 1: fought fought that thing for decades. Yeah. Also just I mean,
Speaker 1: people like the range of responses seems to be like
Speaker 1: anything from like a really bad like ache like at
Speaker 1: the injection spot, like I can't sleep on that side
Speaker 1: of your body, all the way to my wife when
Speaker 1: she got the second dose was like, had a it
Speaker 1: seems like a pretty bad flu for uh twenty four
Speaker 1: hours and was like I didn't want to tell anyone,
Speaker 1: including me, because she knew that I'd be like I'm
Speaker 1: not getting the vaccine now, I'm just joking. I told
Speaker 1: you it was at that point where like the vaccine
Speaker 1: was very early because she's a physician, so like she
Speaker 1: didn't want to like say anything to anyone about it,
Speaker 1: like making her feel sick right right right see. And
Speaker 1: that's the thing that is and I get now we
Speaker 1: know why the scientists too, are like fuck you know
Speaker 1: because you don't so because some people, oh, I'm I
Speaker 1: supposed to protect you from the fluid and you say
Speaker 1: you have the oh see the injured, It's not how
Speaker 1: it works, idiot. All right, let's talk really briefly about
Speaker 1: just where we're at in terms of the glut of
Speaker 1: blockbusters that are just stored up in Hollywood vaults right now,
Speaker 1: backed up, backed up, Hollywood is backed up, baby and uh.
Speaker 1: Scott Mendelsson, one of my favorite writers on Like the
Speaker 1: Movie Industry, used the did you guys see the ghostbust
Speaker 1: Years after Life like teaser with the little stay Puff
Speaker 1: Marshmallow the baby Yoda. Yeah, he was like, well, they
Speaker 1: should move up their release like and maybe that's what
Speaker 1: the symbolizes that they're like testing the waters. But now
Speaker 1: that Kim Kong verse Godzilla did like a really good,
Speaker 1: a robust business last week. Uh, He's like there's now
Speaker 1: like all this unused real estate between now and the
Speaker 1: Memorial Day when people aren't dropping movies that they could
Speaker 1: use to release movies like Ghostbusters Afterlife, and there's just
Speaker 1: so many Like James Bond has been in the cans
Speaker 1: so long that they're having to update his clothes to
Speaker 1: make him like look less dated. Oh no, it's like
Speaker 1: the phone right there and like the whatever phone they use, like, oh,
Speaker 1: we're like three models cost given him a new haircut
Speaker 1: because like he's got like the flock of seagulls haircut.
Speaker 1: It's been in the can for so long. Um, but
Speaker 1: it does, I don't know. It's also like Hollywood, as
Speaker 1: we've talked about in the past, Hollywood is definitely not
Speaker 1: like a optimal like logic machine. A lot of it
Speaker 1: is studio executives realizing that if they release a movie
Speaker 1: that is a big flop, they will get fired, and
Speaker 1: so they tend to be more conservative, and but that
Speaker 1: unfortunately that fucks like people who are actors or you know,
Speaker 1: crew and aren't just movies aren't getting made because they
Speaker 1: have the past two years of Blockbusters that they're just
Speaker 1: sitting on um. But I would like to see those
Speaker 1: Ghostbusters movie. This is the first time that I have
Speaker 1: given a shit about it, and that's because of the
Speaker 1: cute marshmallow people. Oh that's the Yeah. So that's the
Speaker 1: thing is that they're cannibalistic and like it's just and
Speaker 1: like laughing as they're being like eaten. So there's like
Speaker 1: a real demonic like wait, the little stay Puff people
Speaker 1: are cannibals. Yeah, they're cannibals. They're like they're s'mores in
Speaker 1: each other. They're roasting each other with there being like like,
Speaker 1: oh you see what being like burned over a grill
Speaker 1: while they aren't holding the skewer and the one of
Speaker 1: them everyone's widing down the skewer. Well, well it's lower
Speaker 1: half is burning melting. Oh wow. And Paul Rudd is
Speaker 1: plum mixed this. Yeah, Paul Rudd is the lead. This
Speaker 1: also seems like something that they shot just to that
Speaker 1: they were like, okay, as a response to Baby Yoda,
Speaker 1: we will be creating this baby specifically for a trailer.
Speaker 1: But that's in the movie. You think there's that's It
Speaker 1: opens with him being like huh mok, almond fudge, like
Speaker 1: just like a long shot of him going ice cream shopping.
Speaker 1: It's like, there's no way that this advances any part
Speaker 1: of the plot at all. What's happening. Uh, But you know,
Speaker 1: hopefully those little stay Puff babies are in there because
Speaker 1: I love them. And yeah, and then just in terms
Speaker 1: of uh streaming, there's some kind of big shows shows
Speaker 1: that Nielsen says are being like streamed as much as
Speaker 1: like anything over the course of the pandemic that just
Speaker 1: nobody's talking about because I think we just don't really
Speaker 1: because Netflix doesn't like treat each release and like even
Speaker 1: ahead of time, doesn't know what's going to hit. You know,
Speaker 1: these shows that are probably being watched as much as
Speaker 1: like Desperate Housewives when that first hit, right, And do
Speaker 1: you guys remember that like being a moment in culture
Speaker 1: where like all anyone talked about was Desperate Ye. I
Speaker 1: never watched the show, and I feel like I know
Speaker 1: what happens in that show, because the first season was
Speaker 1: like such a phenomenon. Yeah, and then it set off
Speaker 1: the Real Housewives reality thing, like, yeah, that ship to
Speaker 1: the point where passively I'm like, yeah, with Steria Lane
Speaker 1: where they live. But I've never seen. Yeah, I know
Speaker 1: the name of their street and never never watched a
Speaker 1: single moment of an actual episode. But there's a show
Speaker 1: called Ginny and Georgia which is like about a sexually
Speaker 1: empowered single mother her mixed race daughter, like moving to
Speaker 1: a new town. Uh it's I don't know, it's my
Speaker 1: I didn't watch the whole thing, but I saw parts
Speaker 1: of it, and it just seems like it's the sort
Speaker 1: of thing that if it were released on ABC today
Speaker 1: would be a hit, and people are just Uh. There's
Speaker 1: also the show Virgin River that seems to be very similar.
Speaker 1: I forget the name of that show, but we reviewed it.
Speaker 1: It was like a or it was a movie about
Speaker 1: a woman who like movie farm. Uh no, she was.
Speaker 1: It wasn't Katie Holmes, but it was might as well
Speaker 1: have been, and she like leaves it. She's getting a
Speaker 1: divorce and moves to a farm with her kids. It
Speaker 1: has Josh Dumel and he is an anti Baxtor and
Speaker 1: a oh no, it's not Josh dul It has has
Speaker 1: one of those hunks and the male lead is like
Speaker 1: a the apocaly He's like an Apocalypse prepper. Um. Anyways,
Speaker 1: Virgin River is about like a city girl from Los
Speaker 1: Angeles who goes to be a nurse in like a
Speaker 1: small town. So it's like, got that same, it's a
Speaker 1: it's a holiday movie premise, yes, very much. So that's
Speaker 1: a HOLLI that's what holiday movies are. A person from
Speaker 1: the big city yep goes to little town and learns
Speaker 1: what it means to live simply. Okay. I mean it's
Speaker 1: the things like even with Jenny and Georgia. I just
Speaker 1: you know, these shows are big because they don't leave
Speaker 1: the top ten. Whenever I fire up Netflix and they say,
Speaker 1: do you want to continue Formula one Drive to Surve?
Speaker 1: Obviously yes, but what else is Jenny and Georgia is
Speaker 1: also on there? Okay? I see you? But yeah, for me,
Speaker 1: it always takes like critical mass of like four people
Speaker 1: plus Anna Josane to tell me to watch it and
Speaker 1: then I'm alright, find it's nailed on. His name might
Speaker 1: be the most influential streamer in America because once she's
Speaker 1: onto something, it's, uh, can we do like can we
Speaker 1: do like like bets like like big bets on like
Speaker 1: popularity as of shows you know, based on that, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? The stream whisper and yeah, ten
Speaker 1: thousand down on Jenny and Georgia season two. Man, I
Speaker 1: think it's gonna do numbers. Let me just find it's
Speaker 1: gonna flomp, It's gonna whereas reggae jehan. Uh. The show
Speaker 1: we were talking about was The Lost Husband Uh, and
Speaker 1: it was Leslie bib and and it was Josh Demel
Speaker 1: as the Apocalypse Prepper. But that it was interesting that
Speaker 1: like somebody who would ultimately be it would have ultimately
Speaker 1: rated the Capital on January six. The is the male
Speaker 1: lead of that show. Yeah, but it's busy learning to
Speaker 1: love again. You learn to love the country again. Uh.
Speaker 1: Stephen as always such a pleasure having you. Man. Where
Speaker 1: can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff? Uh?
Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter and Instagram. Wilber with
Speaker 1: an e. Uh if you can't spell it, I don't
Speaker 1: want you to follow me. I still have my my
Speaker 1: my debut, my first debut album, sixteen Bits is out.
Speaker 1: To listen to it you want on Spotify or Pandora,
Speaker 1: I guess, or you could buy it. Who cares? Um? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's it. Not to the original Sega Genesis Super Nintendo's right,
Speaker 1: And is there a tweet or some of the work
Speaker 1: of social media. You've been enjoying. Man, I was going
Speaker 1: through it and I was not loving anything. And then
Speaker 1: Kevin O'Shea at o'sh computer said, uh, Seattle a bet,
Speaker 1: what cities above Tacoma? That got me? That's pretty good. Oh, Miles,
Speaker 1: where can people find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying? Twitter? Instagram?
Speaker 1: Miles of gray. Also in Four Day Fiance, Oh, I've
Speaker 1: got some I got some tweets I'm liking and I'm
Speaker 1: loving them. First one, uh is from DJ fuck at Eggshell.
Speaker 1: Friend says, my grandpa saw you across the bar and
Speaker 1: we love your vibe. Can we inherit your chocolate factory?
Speaker 1: Another one is from uh this is Killer meg at
Speaker 1: horse Underscore feedback twnting any beer under five per cent
Speaker 1: is fine to give to children. Yeah, which, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: not that tracks. Um Dan kois ko I s tweeted, um,
Speaker 1: this interview absolutely delivers. It's from Slate and the first
Speaker 1: is the title. It says, an interview with the guy
Speaker 1: who yells Mortal Kombat in the theme from Mortal Kombat.
Speaker 1: Nearly three day decades later, he's still got it and
Speaker 1: they they go down in the interview. He just doesn't
Speaker 1: expert up this one. Part says I see, will you
Speaker 1: do it over the phone, And the guy says, would
Speaker 1: I do it over the phone? Absolutely, let's hear it,
Speaker 1: And it's just in text Mortal Kombat with an exclamation point.
Speaker 1: But the guy hit him with the Mortal Kombat scream
Speaker 1: and you love it. And then finally this one just
Speaker 1: felt right for everything we talked about a j at
Speaker 1: a Kumar Underscore FTW tweetd I faced more peer pressure
Speaker 1: in my life to start animals than do drugs. Yeah right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's the real ship I think on Internet right now.
Speaker 1: I've tried to start attack on titans so many times
Speaker 1: and I'm just I guess I'm just not cool. Uh.
Speaker 1: In keeping with Steven the theme of Stevens tweet, AO
Speaker 1: Doc two sees tweeted, call me Zach because I don't
Speaker 1: know what the f ron with me. Yes, sir, you
Speaker 1: can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien. You
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Speaker 1: to the information that we talked about in today's episode,
Speaker 1: as well as a song. Do we recommend you go
Speaker 1: check out? Miles? What song should people be checking out? Man?
Speaker 1: If you remember we had Illingsworth from Detroit on the
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Speaker 1: I hope you all been listening to. I hope you've
Speaker 1: been supporting him. But there's another Illingsworth track called everhard
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Speaker 1: just I Look. If you like that sample based hip hop,
Speaker 1: you know, if you're a Dilla fan, if you like
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