Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season one seventy six,
Speaker 1: Episode two of Days the production of My Heart Radio.
Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we take a deep dive
Speaker 1: into America's share consciousness. It is Tuesday, March six. Woman
Speaker 1: name is Jack O'Brien a k and uh. This is
Speaker 1: a song I had never heard of before, but it
Speaker 1: has a hundred and twenty seven million views on YouTube,
Speaker 1: so bear with me. What I really meant to say
Speaker 1: is I'm sorry for how washed I am. Never meant
Speaker 1: to be so old, never meant to be so old. Uh.
Speaker 1: That is courtesy of Quarantina Fletcher at Pink Politics, and
Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co host,
Speaker 1: Mr Miles grayt DJ Daniel Good. And they had a
Speaker 1: bunch of hits, but Justine's b saar sick and I
Speaker 1: think he's fly. When Mile stop by for the Zeke Geys.
Speaker 1: For the Zeke Geys, I like that Jack wears out
Speaker 1: Ana Hosnier spewing all his cold gas takes. But Daniel's
Speaker 1: gone from the Zeke Guys from the Zeke Guys, and
Speaker 1: we wish him love to that the family. It's funny
Speaker 1: is as much as I'm like, yeah, you know he's not.
Speaker 1: We're gonna show cut to were my habit of saying
Speaker 1: cut to We're always talking, baby, he never left. Don't
Speaker 1: don't be self conscious about your cut to cut to
Speaker 1: his Uh. It's great. It makes our podcast cinematic, people,
Speaker 1: It makes it. Yeah, the Zeke guys cinematic. As you
Speaker 1: see you, dude, I'm gonna start adding a cross fade
Speaker 1: two and uh Star Wars two U seventies public system
Speaker 1: that was was was that? Like? I feel like that
Speaker 1: was like by a mold because they got how how
Speaker 1: worn out on a Hosni is buying me? Like talking
Speaker 1: about cold gas ship. Maybe maybe Anna Hosny is all
Speaker 1: of us. Maybe. Uh well, we are thrilled to be
Speaker 1: joined in our third seat by the hilarious, the brilliant
Speaker 1: Kenny DeForest a k milk purple stuff Kenny. Dr Kenny
Speaker 1: got a right, yeah, just Drilla Vanilla? Baby? What's up?
Speaker 1: How are we doing? What's happening? Man? Good man? How
Speaker 1: are you? Man? I'm just just ride it out, just
Speaker 1: hung it down in the bunker, baby, that's right. I
Speaker 1: got my quarantine beard ready, looking like I just stormed
Speaker 1: the capitol. What's up. Good to see you. Did you
Speaker 1: get self conscious about that? On January seven? You're like,
Speaker 1: what have I done? Yeah? I'm ping. I'm primed to
Speaker 1: be a mole. Baby, send me and look set me
Speaker 1: with open exactly we need you. Kenny out there? Is
Speaker 1: that a Rod Stewart sweatshirt? It is? It's a Rosteward
Speaker 1: sweash shirt. Man love Rod Stewart. It's a beauty where
Speaker 1: the ocean means the scaffossy beauty. All Right, Kenny, We're
Speaker 1: gonna get to know you a little bit better in
Speaker 1: a moment. First, we're gonna tell our listeners a couple
Speaker 1: of the things we're talking about today, Uh, such as
Speaker 1: the Oscar nominations were announced yesterday, so that means it
Speaker 1: is our time to revisit the films. I like to
Speaker 1: do a five year window, look back at what what
Speaker 1: has lasted? What would get the award if they allowed
Speaker 1: allowed movies to sit for five years, which I think
Speaker 1: is a better way to award worth in the in
Speaker 1: the film industry. We're gonna talk about Biden's tax plan. Uh,
Speaker 1: we'll talk about that BuzzFeed quiz that tells you how
Speaker 1: old you are based on food preferences. Talk about the
Speaker 1: NBA dynasty, Oreos, all of that plenty more. But first, Kenny,
Speaker 1: we like to ask our guest, what is something from
Speaker 1: your search history that is revealing about who you are? Uh? Well, So,
Speaker 1: first of all, I use Ekosha. Do you guys know
Speaker 1: about e Kosha? That's the search engine I use. I
Speaker 1: encourage everybody look into it. E C O, S, I A.
Speaker 1: They don't track your data and for every search they
Speaker 1: plant a tree, so they are benevolent people. I use
Speaker 1: you Kosha, and you're gonna say, like when you're spelling it,
Speaker 1: I was being like, please don't say E C O,
Speaker 1: C I A, ecosia, check it out a dot org
Speaker 1: and you don't want to all of your secrets. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: but I The most recent search was Astral Projection. I
Speaker 1: watched the show. I don't want to say, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah it really was yeah, yeah, but I won't say
Speaker 1: what it is either watched the same show probably Yeah.
Speaker 1: I watched it last night. We watched three episodes and
Speaker 1: I was like out on it. So I just read
Speaker 1: the plot summary for the last three episodes and I
Speaker 1: was like, what the fuck. I had to like check
Speaker 1: multiple times to make sure I was reading the plot
Speaker 1: subary for the for the Right show, because wait, what
Speaker 1: are y'all talking about? We can't tell you the show
Speaker 1: because it's so out, like far from what it advertises
Speaker 1: itself as and far from what it is for the
Speaker 1: first three episodes that we I can't. I can't tell you.
Speaker 1: It's even worse than marketing. People didn't search astro projection, uh,
Speaker 1: plot twist, and they'll find out what it is. But
Speaker 1: I don't want to funk anybody up. If they don't,
Speaker 1: it is a spoiler to know what we're talking about it.
Speaker 1: So now you got me being like, what the funk you?
Speaker 1: I want to know the fuck justin you can bleep
Speaker 1: this and uh and and we'll say it right now. One, two, three?
Speaker 1: Did you see that? Did you see the trailers for this?
Speaker 1: Okay that I loved it. We loved it. My girl
Speaker 1: and I watched it in at night. Yeah, like it
Speaker 1: was like the first time I've been up until five
Speaker 1: in the morning since I was in my twenties. I
Speaker 1: just was. And that's with the help of daylight savings.
Speaker 1: That's with the yeah, I mean, yeah exactly. I got
Speaker 1: the assists, got the Farmer's Almanact with the assists exactly
Speaker 1: keeping me feeling young. But yeah, so I was. I
Speaker 1: was researching that how to do that? If it's actually
Speaker 1: how to do it? Yeah, would would you learn? Uh?
Speaker 1: It sounds like I met some pretty trippy people though
Speaker 1: on the internet. That's exactly right. Yeah. Yeah, it also
Speaker 1: like opens up. It feels like the sort of thing
Speaker 1: that like has such limitless potential that there should just
Speaker 1: be an entire genre of like movies about that, because
Speaker 1: like at a certain point it's like, oh, so this
Speaker 1: person is that person and that you know, you just
Speaker 1: get to this is so confusing. I'm like, I have
Speaker 1: to watch this ship now. The way you're talking, it's wild.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I asked for a Projection guest but okay,
Speaker 1: but just without the spoilers, given that the show is
Speaker 1: good though, even though it took it took you, so
Speaker 1: it took a turn you didn't know it was advertised.
Speaker 1: Jack was obviously not into it. I was not into
Speaker 1: it in the sense that I knew my wife was
Speaker 1: going my wife was going to stay up all night
Speaker 1: watching it, and I was not. I did not want
Speaker 1: to do that, so I just read through the end.
Speaker 1: I do that sometimes for for my own sanity. Sometimes
Speaker 1: there's a thing if you're watching the show in bed
Speaker 1: and it's like I'm gonna keep going and you're like
Speaker 1: leave me. Yeah, I don't have the energy and you
Speaker 1: were clearly turned up on this and I'm not. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought it was great. It was just like the
Speaker 1: it was one of those shows because I'm a lot
Speaker 1: of people like this, But when I watched the show,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure it out. You know, we're hitting pause,
Speaker 1: We're like, all right, here's what I think is happening.
Speaker 1: Here's what I think. And the fact that it was not,
Speaker 1: I mean I was I might finish it. I might
Speaker 1: finish it still because it really does like give new
Speaker 1: context to some of the performances, Like some of the
Speaker 1: performances are like better than I realized before, because the
Speaker 1: whole time we were like, well would he really be
Speaker 1: like that? You know, we're like, oh right, right, okay, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: this might be the most incomprehensible, like five minutes of
Speaker 1: this podcast we've ever done. But it's it's still it's
Speaker 1: it would be incomprehensible if you had watched the first
Speaker 1: three episodes and head and google the ending So, Kenny,
Speaker 1: what is something you think is overrated? I feel like
Speaker 1: the impact of Twitter, that's something I've learned. Like things
Speaker 1: keep happening on Twitter, and I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: and then I'll talk to someone that's not on there
Speaker 1: and They're like, what are you talking about? No one knows.
Speaker 1: I went on the road last fall and I was like,
Speaker 1: I had all these jokes about stuff on Twitter, and
Speaker 1: people in Ohio We're looking at me like I was
Speaker 1: from a different planet. They were like, we don't. We
Speaker 1: watched the local news. What is this? Mr potato heads
Speaker 1: has a gender? What are you talking about? You know?
Speaker 1: No one cares about people on Twitter talking about and
Speaker 1: so um and like this whole thing is being like
Speaker 1: cancel culture. It's like, yeah, you're canceled on Twitter to
Speaker 1: like two thousand people that don't leave their house. No
Speaker 1: one cares. Everyone's fine, you know. Yeah, it's interesting to
Speaker 1: see that the difference of like how people look at
Speaker 1: the things that are happening on Twitter as it relates
Speaker 1: to like outside I r L reality and the stark
Speaker 1: contrast in it is really something. I think it really
Speaker 1: you think it's really good to like embrace the fact
Speaker 1: how overrated is in the context of if you have
Speaker 1: like social media induced anxiety, Like if you're on Twitter
Speaker 1: and you you start being like, oh shoot, I'm doom scrolling.
Speaker 1: I think the whorldst get off that ship for a
Speaker 1: second and remind yourself you live in the real world
Speaker 1: and go talk to people like in your community. Like
Speaker 1: that's that's the realist ship to Twitter you have, because
Speaker 1: those are people you will rely on at some point,
Speaker 1: not fucking avatars who are like right. And that's like
Speaker 1: another thing I learned that tour. I was in the
Speaker 1: middle of the country and if you like read Twitter,
Speaker 1: everyone in the middle of the country is a racist idiot,
Speaker 1: and you like go out thinking that and then you
Speaker 1: do shows and people are like thanks for talking about
Speaker 1: that stuff or I don't know. It's just like it's
Speaker 1: not as stark, it's not as black and white as
Speaker 1: Twitter makes life. Yeah, it definitely helps contribute to that
Speaker 1: cruel world syndrome that people can get and I think
Speaker 1: especially when in a year like the last one we've
Speaker 1: had where we've unfortunately not had the ability to go
Speaker 1: out into physical space that much and connect with people
Speaker 1: on that level. Yeah, that's that's a good point. Of too,
Speaker 1: why the trauma of this year is like part of
Speaker 1: it is induced by the media we consume, whether that's
Speaker 1: broadcast media or social media. Yeah, I feel like Twitter's
Speaker 1: use right now is to like bubble up stories that
Speaker 1: then the mainstream media might find useful. Like the Dr
Speaker 1: Seuss thing uh that we're going to talk about later
Speaker 1: would have in any you know, ordinary universe, been a
Speaker 1: story that just existed on Twitter. But because the Fox
Speaker 1: News kind of ecosphere needed a story to focus on
Speaker 1: and drown out another story they didn't want to talk about,
Speaker 1: it became like a thing that I feel like everybody's
Speaker 1: heard about, right, And I think, yeah to your point though,
Speaker 1: to Jack of like surfacing stories, it's like depending on
Speaker 1: the ideological bend of something, it's like it's basically ground
Speaker 1: zero for the culture wars. Like all the culture war
Speaker 1: stories are mostly extracted from Twitter on some level, like
Speaker 1: aside from like policy things. But there are a lot
Speaker 1: of things that are coming out of discourse on Twitter
Speaker 1: that then evolved into some larger culture war point. And
Speaker 1: then you have Doctor Studs that's gotten canceled and it's
Speaker 1: because one person pointed out some shit about it earlier,
Speaker 1: and that tweet blew up and that that that that
Speaker 1: so there drowns out the good part, like because also
Speaker 1: there's been some great things, Like to your point about
Speaker 1: bubbling stories, I don't think police brutality gets the traction
Speaker 1: that it has gotten without social media, without Twitter, without
Speaker 1: real time. But then everybody wants to be involved, and
Speaker 1: so people start bubbling up their story and it's like, not, now,
Speaker 1: let's can we focus on Can I focus on this?
Speaker 1: I don't need to know. I don't need to talk
Speaker 1: about dr suits. Yeah, what's something you think is underrated? Uh?
Speaker 1: Listening to music in the shower? I think it's really
Speaker 1: a lot of people like quiet time in the shower,
Speaker 1: which I get it, But as somebody who battles my
Speaker 1: own brain every day, there's something really valuable about just
Speaker 1: putting a waterproof speaker in the shower and just like
Speaker 1: turn it on some Rick Ross and just getting someone
Speaker 1: your confident energy pumping into your life to start your
Speaker 1: day and sets the tone. Man, I listen to Upbeat Happy.
Speaker 1: I saved my sad boys ship for the end of
Speaker 1: the day and the morning. It is all you got
Speaker 1: this do? Beyonce on Let's go your Sativa music that's right.
Speaker 1: I mean the night you come to emo tracks, the
Speaker 1: darker put you to bed and some sad boys. Right,
Speaker 1: so you got Rick Ross pumping with Chevy Ride and
Speaker 1: High Remix while you're lathering up absolutely all day, all day.
Speaker 1: I mean, if he claimed king and he claimed best,
Speaker 1: then I guess you can call me God. Great opening
Speaker 1: line from Push Your Tea on that track. I don't
Speaker 1: listen to music enough in the shower. Actually I realize, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why I don't. I don't listen to music enough period,
Speaker 1: So shower would be good. Although shower is the one
Speaker 1: time and this is why I will like put off shower,
Speaker 1: bad bad window into my life. But this is why
Speaker 1: I will sometimes put off showers on the weekend or
Speaker 1: just at any time, like when I don't have to
Speaker 1: see anyone. Is like, because it's the one time that
Speaker 1: my brain is just quiet and like to itself, and
Speaker 1: because I have anxiety, like I'm just like, oh that
Speaker 1: might be too much. Ye just stay here, just stay here,
Speaker 1: just stay just stay here. Everything's good right here? Yeah,
Speaker 1: uh honey, because you hold my phone up to the
Speaker 1: shower window for me, that would be great, thank you. Um,
Speaker 1: you don't listen even in the house, like you don't
Speaker 1: have I mean what you have the children's or yelling
Speaker 1: for the devices to like play their own Yeah. Man,
Speaker 1: it's a lot of it's a lot of Alexa play
Speaker 1: p J masks song like theme song twenty times a day.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I mean I do listen to music, it's
Speaker 1: just not enough. And when I do, I'm like, God,
Speaker 1: I love music. Yeah. I feel like that happens a
Speaker 1: lot too, like when we whenever, like I'll play music before,
Speaker 1: you know, a quick glimpse into the show, like before
Speaker 1: we start recording or something. I'll place and be like, Yo,
Speaker 1: what what's that? Who? Who does that? Who is that? Oh? Wow?
Speaker 1: Okay that that? Yeah. Sometimes I feel you're you're coming
Speaker 1: in from the desert of lack of tunage to drink
Speaker 1: from the oasis of like passive background music. Kenny, is
Speaker 1: there something that you think is an underrated driver of culture,
Speaker 1: like when you're out there, Because that's something I'm always
Speaker 1: fascinated by with stand ups who are actually out like touring,
Speaker 1: experiencing the people firsthand, that you guys have a unique
Speaker 1: perspective on like what what resonates and what doesn't like
Speaker 1: what people are are feeling, um do you do you
Speaker 1: feel like there's something that's a underrated driver of culture. Honestly,
Speaker 1: probably music. I mean not to stay on that topic,
Speaker 1: but like I think about when Childish Gambinos This is
Speaker 1: America came out, you know, and that was like I
Speaker 1: was on the road during that time, and it's one
Speaker 1: of those songs you don't know if you're gonna hear
Speaker 1: it everywhere, and everywhere I went. I heard it in
Speaker 1: the bar, you know what I mean? And I heard,
Speaker 1: um Jason Isbel who's one of my favorite artists, like
Speaker 1: a folky like American artist, in an interview one time,
Speaker 1: talk about how you go home to Alabama and before
Speaker 1: the country act would go on stage, the crowd was
Speaker 1: listening to like two Chains on the jukebox, and it's
Speaker 1: like that's the stuff that I think is bringing us
Speaker 1: all together, you know what I mean. Like music is
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say purely benevolent, but like it brings people together,
Speaker 1: and it brings people's guard down in a way that
Speaker 1: other mediums don't, and so things get in there and
Speaker 1: impacts people in ways. So yeah, I think music is
Speaker 1: is kind of underrated for its cultural impact. You know
Speaker 1: and yeah, I mean because you even look at like
Speaker 1: there was that one guy on the sixth who is
Speaker 1: shooting a rap video at the insurrection, this Maga rapper,
Speaker 1: like and you're like, damn, you're there on behalf of
Speaker 1: white supremacy, but you are taking black culture and you
Speaker 1: are you are speaking your truth. You're fucked up truth,
Speaker 1: albeit but like through black like sir, like did you
Speaker 1: did you? Can you take a second here? You might
Speaker 1: be on the wrong side, but it's a yeah, it
Speaker 1: really is. There's something about music that has this ability
Speaker 1: to like because it's like just rhythm. It's just like,
Speaker 1: oh shoot, I'm nodding to this, and now you're like
Speaker 1: you're nodding, you're like a bringing to the music and
Speaker 1: you're like uh huh uh huh uh huh uh huh.
Speaker 1: And I think fellow Kuti, who was one of my
Speaker 1: favorite musicians, he said it very perfectly. He said music
Speaker 1: is the weapon of the future, like in a very
Speaker 1: you know, philosophical sense, but it's true. Like you know
Speaker 1: what he as a in Nigeria, the way he was
Speaker 1: bringing to people together with his music, how is that
Speaker 1: be saw that as like an organizing threat too, But
Speaker 1: it was through music. Um, yeah, there is something super
Speaker 1: powerful and that and it's uncontrollable too. I think in
Speaker 1: our world, where uh, you know, people crave authenticity and
Speaker 1: like marketing always immediately like infiltrates every cultural movement or
Speaker 1: tries to there's something like kind of unfathable about music
Speaker 1: and like people tend to I don't know. That's something
Speaker 1: I thought about when uh, people were like, well, during
Speaker 1: the Trump administration, there's gonna be like all these protests
Speaker 1: songs that come out, and it was like, not really,
Speaker 1: but it'll be like more about the the vibe of it.
Speaker 1: But it just seems like things move differently than people
Speaker 1: ever expect them to, and just the expectation that something's
Speaker 1: going to happen almost makes it like, well, that's not
Speaker 1: gonna happen now that you put it out there, it's
Speaker 1: and even at your point, Miles about the weapon in the
Speaker 1: the future, I just I was thinking about this recently.
Speaker 1: But when I was a kid, I got a Tupac album.
Speaker 1: I was like probably twelve or something, and I still
Speaker 1: remember the first time I heard Brenda's Got a Baby.
Speaker 1: I had never heard that song before, and I'm just
Speaker 1: like a white kid in Missouri and the comfortable last suburbs,
Speaker 1: you know, and I heard Brenda's got a baby, and
Speaker 1: it was like, whenever this sort of like civil rights
Speaker 1: movement of our modern time was starting, I I kind
Speaker 1: of remembered that moment and I was like, it just
Speaker 1: opened up my eyes to this other world that I
Speaker 1: had no access to, you know what I mean. And like,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it made me ready for this moment,
Speaker 1: but it gave me a jumping off point. I already
Speaker 1: had at least like an idea that there was people
Speaker 1: that lived differently than me and had hardships that I
Speaker 1: would never understand, you know what I mean. And it's
Speaker 1: so kind of like put me in a place of
Speaker 1: empathy at a young age that I wouldn't have had otherwise.
Speaker 1: And then in your teenage years, like you kind of
Speaker 1: just like any music about a struggle in general, even
Speaker 1: if it's not yours, like, but if it's like kids
Speaker 1: in the hood who are just struggling, you'll take that,
Speaker 1: even if you're comfortable as suburban teen and you're like,
Speaker 1: my parents are getting divorced. So yeah, this gun talk
Speaker 1: is resonating right now on some level that it begins
Speaker 1: to like sort of d or like it it de
Speaker 1: obscures or the obscurity is lessened when you can actually
Speaker 1: be like right there, we all have these different experience
Speaker 1: but on some level, like I'm tapping into a thing
Speaker 1: that might not be a one to one comparison, but
Speaker 1: you'd hope creates more empathy. Yeah, and there's certainly the
Speaker 1: ability to like you know, it gets then boiled down
Speaker 1: and then like corporatized and then it like comes out
Speaker 1: as like uh it. But I I feel like just
Speaker 1: in terms of what just talking about, like the authenticity
Speaker 1: and like the direction things move, Like the the direction
Speaker 1: is never like prescribed by the powers that be. It's
Speaker 1: them always like trying to react to the reaction the
Speaker 1: direction that like energy is moving, and then they find
Speaker 1: a way to like make a bullshit kind of water
Speaker 1: down version of that direction, and then by the time
Speaker 1: they figured out it's moved on in a different direction.
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break and we'll be
Speaker 1: right back. And we're back and uh one oscar nams
Speaker 1: have been announced people who have seen all the movies
Speaker 1: this year, which I think they're probably more of those
Speaker 1: than in your average non pandemic year. Seem uncommonly happy
Speaker 1: with the list, Like there's definitely some snubs that people
Speaker 1: are mad about, Regina King not getting nominated for Best
Speaker 1: Director when a lot of people were saying, like the
Speaker 1: performances in One Night Miami was were like the best
Speaker 1: directed acting performances of the year. But just generally it
Speaker 1: seems like people are more pleased overall, And I think
Speaker 1: it probably has something to do with like I was
Speaker 1: just thinking about the Academy overall as a instrument for
Speaker 1: recognizing movies, Like they haven't expanded the number of people
Speaker 1: in the Academy, like with the number of movies that
Speaker 1: are coming out. So in the year two thousand there
Speaker 1: were three hundred and eighty movies that came out. This
Speaker 1: year it was three twenty nine because the pandemic in
Speaker 1: one it was like sixty one hundred and seventy three. Um,
Speaker 1: but now like last year it was like in the
Speaker 1: eight hundreds. Yeah, So it's just they're they're releasing way
Speaker 1: more movies and the Academy doesn't have the ability to
Speaker 1: go through all of them and like figure out which
Speaker 1: ones they like the best. So it then goes down
Speaker 1: to which studios have the money to pay for a
Speaker 1: media campaign and then like review aggregators and all these
Speaker 1: different like sort of sorting mechanisms that really don't have
Speaker 1: anything to do with the quality of the movies necessarily,
Speaker 1: so bringing it back down to a manageable level. It
Speaker 1: makes sense to me that they would do a better
Speaker 1: job this year than in years past. I mean, is
Speaker 1: it a is it a coincidence they have the time
Speaker 1: to look at things. And then we finally get to
Speaker 1: Asian Actors nominated for Best Actor with Rizzo met and
Speaker 1: Stephen You and I'm like, oh yeah, and I'm part
Speaker 1: of me goes, I need to start watching movies. I
Speaker 1: took this whole fucking year off from movies. I just can't.
Speaker 1: It's a it's been a weird part of my subconscious
Speaker 1: that like I've not been able to like normalize about
Speaker 1: being Like, aside from watching Wonder Woman eighty four and Soul,
Speaker 1: those are the only things that were like new releases
Speaker 1: that I've caught, but those are the new ones. You
Speaker 1: need to see. Those are But I'm taking ls on
Speaker 1: everything else, Like, I mean, I'm gonna watch them, but
Speaker 1: it's weird. I've just been whatever this subconscious block is.
Speaker 1: But I feel like it's like every year because the
Speaker 1: awards are gonna come around, I have to get up
Speaker 1: on ship. So I'll definitely check it out. But um yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just maybe maybe because it was more manageable. I
Speaker 1: felt like it was I was overloaded. I don't know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure, and I mean we're it was it was
Speaker 1: just a funked up year for sure. I don't know,
Speaker 1: was it. I don't know. I feel like I'm being
Speaker 1: a baby, you know, like being hard on yourself. Man. Uh,
Speaker 1: but that's what I do want to uh spend the
Speaker 1: next month rather than like you know, figuring out what
Speaker 1: deserved it and what didn't this year. I think we're
Speaker 1: too early in the life of the movies to figure
Speaker 1: that out. I like to look five years ago and
Speaker 1: what one what was nominated, and what actually has lasting power.
Speaker 1: So these are the movies of two thousand fifteen that
Speaker 1: were awarded in it was ther Spotlight one for Best
Speaker 1: Picture and Matt Max Fury Road was probably one of
Speaker 1: the most overall Academy Awards, but it was a bunch
Speaker 1: of technical things. So that that's something that I don't
Speaker 1: know if we if we could get some Zeitgang participation
Speaker 1: I'd love to love to hear just people's overall impressions
Speaker 1: at me on Twitter of like, what what you think
Speaker 1: we're some underrated movies that have a big cultural impact
Speaker 1: from uh the year is inside out count Yeah? Inside
Speaker 1: Out counts. I think I think Animated is Animated is underrated? Uh,
Speaker 1: comedy is underrated? Uh. In terms of just the the
Speaker 1: oscars have this tendency, I think I think it's like
Speaker 1: that mechanism that I was talking about before, where it's
Speaker 1: the studios have a sense of what an Oscar movie is,
Speaker 1: and so they like focus all their money and energy
Speaker 1: on like that type of movie when they're like getting
Speaker 1: it in front of voters. But yeah, there's there's not
Speaker 1: like a huge comedy this year that would have that
Speaker 1: would have jumped out to me, But like Melissa McCarthy
Speaker 1: and Spy is like a definitely a performance that is
Speaker 1: worth looking back at. People don't get mad if you
Speaker 1: snug a comedy, but it's like an emotional piece where
Speaker 1: like everyone bear their soul, you know, and then it's
Speaker 1: like nah, people like what this changed? This changed the
Speaker 1: conversation around X, Y and Z. Yeah, comedies like yeah
Speaker 1: the guy farted, I laughed, but it is like, hey,
Speaker 1: can you think about that scene right now and laugh now?
Speaker 1: See then then you gotta that's something, that's something you know. Overall,
Speaker 1: it was like a huge year for blockbusters. It was
Speaker 1: age of Ultron Fast seven, Jurassic World in the Fourth Awakens,
Speaker 1: so those are and Minions, yeah, which was huge ruined.
Speaker 1: I think child rains forever. If we were awarding Oscars
Speaker 1: five years on if Minions get like some sort of
Speaker 1: like lifetime achievement like yeah, like some Cecil B. Demill award, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: The Seven Dwarfs got an oscar the year that Snow
Speaker 1: White came out, I feel like you could you could
Speaker 1: do that for the man is crazy to staying power
Speaker 1: because like Pixar pumps out movies so for for those
Speaker 1: care Like in fact, yesterday, literally yesterday, I was driving
Speaker 1: down Sunset and the car in front of me had
Speaker 1: a minion hanging off its bumper like a little minions
Speaker 1: yea nuts, it was like a truck nuts like a minion. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it made me laugh, you know, thank you for
Speaker 1: that gift. It made me laugh. I would say even
Speaker 1: harder than truck nuts make me laugh, And that is
Speaker 1: a real feat Yeah. Absolutely, uh yeah, I think Minions
Speaker 1: are like some of the best physical comedy creations of
Speaker 1: like just just based on the experience that Charlie, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's up there with cha. Yeah, but yeah, I like
Speaker 1: my initial takes are that mad Max Fury Road probably
Speaker 1: is the one that should have won over Spotlight, even
Speaker 1: though Spotlight was very good. Uh. It almost like the
Speaker 1: cultural impact feels more like a piece of journalism in
Speaker 1: terms of the overall zeit guys like it changed the
Speaker 1: way we thought about a story and a cultural institution,
Speaker 1: whereas like Fury Road like has just the cinematic moments
Speaker 1: that like are just burnt into our cultural like unconscious
Speaker 1: well I mean even I mean and for all the
Speaker 1: talk of like obviously, I think when we all look
Speaker 1: at it, cinema is what the studios like lean on
Speaker 1: in terms of what they feel are they're Oscar hopefuls.
Speaker 1: But when things like Fury Road, there are so many
Speaker 1: videos on YouTube and people doing analysis from the editing
Speaker 1: to the composition of the cinematography that it's truly it's
Speaker 1: you have to like really take that for what like
Speaker 1: people are studying the movie, Like I didn't realize about
Speaker 1: all the set to focusing of the like the action
Speaker 1: and how that played, and how we were just taking
Speaker 1: the film in based on how they're composing the shots.
Speaker 1: And when you see all that ship, you're like, damn,
Speaker 1: you know, and you got an editor who was not
Speaker 1: doing action, who was doing drama, who was applying a
Speaker 1: completely different sensibility to this kind of film, and you
Speaker 1: get all these other cool things to come out of it.
Speaker 1: So yeah, and also sometimes it's okay to just have
Speaker 1: fun in a movie exactly. The Academy doesn't take that
Speaker 1: in the consideration. It's like did you cry? Did you
Speaker 1: call your mom? It's like, no, I had a great time.
Speaker 1: Did you stand up and shut funk? Yet the screen
Speaker 1: should be one of those things that you have because
Speaker 1: the dude is the I forget spended on the suspended
Speaker 1: playing the guitar with flame shooting out of it is
Speaker 1: never going to be toughed like you ever top fun.
Speaker 1: So fun, I mean because never before had we had
Speaker 1: a like a physical embodiment of what cocaine looked like
Speaker 1: until that film, And I was like, yes, there it
Speaker 1: is right there. It was really more than transition from
Speaker 1: cocaine into meth cocaine. Once he rose up. It was
Speaker 1: like my man's gotten into the harder stop for three days. Uh.
Speaker 1: So of the nominees, there are three that I feel
Speaker 1: like have faded. The Revenant is like, that's arguable, some
Speaker 1: people really love The Revenant. I feel like that's not
Speaker 1: one that like I revisit that much in my mind.
Speaker 1: Brooklyn and Bridge of Spies. I feel like not neither
Speaker 1: of those are one people like go Back and so
Speaker 1: I think we have three spots that we can work
Speaker 1: with on nominees. So hit me with three, like Creed
Speaker 1: maybe deserves a look, Cucario maybe deserves a look, maybe
Speaker 1: a comedy, but anyways, that's uh, that's your homeworks. I
Speaker 1: gang hit me up with some nominees for movies. The
Speaker 1: most lasting thing from the Revenant, where all the anecdotes
Speaker 1: about how in your eto was like abusing the crew
Speaker 1: to get the film shot the way he wanted with
Speaker 1: no lighting and ship like, I feel like that is
Speaker 1: the most lasting thing for me. I'm like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: and then he got sucked up by that bear. That's it.
Speaker 1: The bear is the thing, and partially the bear is
Speaker 1: from the Jonah Hill sketch from the Oscars, so like
Speaker 1: it's the self fulfilling thing where it's uh, yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean the bear was pretty and not to say again,
Speaker 1: And I think that's to the point to it is
Speaker 1: like that there was a narrative of like cinema, there
Speaker 1: was like in Your Too and Lubeski back at it again,
Speaker 1: the duo doing what they do and like this time
Speaker 1: they didn't use lights. It's all natural, and like, I
Speaker 1: think that's what got a lot of people going like, yo,
Speaker 1: you gotta check this out because of this stuff, rather
Speaker 1: than like do you He won the Academy Work for
Speaker 1: Best Direction. Tom the Tom guy who directed Spotlight and
Speaker 1: then went on to direct Cats, also nominated. And uh,
Speaker 1: it's like a title hold the Rafters in the title
Speaker 1: off the Rafters, I'm sorry. They're also remember we saw
Speaker 1: we remember when you cut the net off the hoop?
Speaker 1: Do you have the net to? They're like, we're gonna
Speaker 1: need that back anyways. So we got another another couple
Speaker 1: of director noms. This is going to be controversial, but
Speaker 1: I wonder if Matt Damon doesn't deserve it for The
Speaker 1: Martian more than Leo for the Revenant. But I thought
Speaker 1: Damon was pretty good in The Martian, and that's more
Speaker 1: of a funny, fun movie and yeah, Leo, that was
Speaker 1: just a mate good for Leo, you know right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like you get less of the make goods
Speaker 1: than uh if you did this, if you gave it five.
Speaker 1: I think maybe what we need to do is, I mean,
Speaker 1: not that every year there's a mate good but immediately
Speaker 1: right off them make Good Awards or like they've been
Speaker 1: doing they've been at it for a minute, let's just
Speaker 1: give it to him this time, right, hold on, suck up.
Speaker 1: Then you just sucked over everybody. Speaking of which, the
Speaker 1: Grammys last night, like not giving Beyonce Best Song, but
Speaker 1: then like when she on for being on Best Rap Song,
Speaker 1: like made a huge deal about her, like having the
Speaker 1: win for most I feel like that was another example
Speaker 1: of like a word make good where they're like, we
Speaker 1: we still love you, Beyonce, please don't stop coming to
Speaker 1: the Grammys. We were so thrilled that you showed up.
Speaker 1: God if we hope we didn't mess it up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying she wasn't deserving, but just saying that
Speaker 1: they seemed to be trying to correct something and in
Speaker 1: a half ast just do it old school where you
Speaker 1: could go to McDonald's and buy a ballot and you
Speaker 1: buy fifty of them and you your friends, you know,
Speaker 1: goose the system. Make it democratic like an All Star game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just fucking I'm curious to see what happens. Wait, did
Speaker 1: Grammy's used to do it? Like? Oh no, I'm just
Speaker 1: saying like I'm just describing the All Star Game, which
Speaker 1: is my first foray into democratic processes of voting with
Speaker 1: multiple ballots. Uh, the people especially now, like the people
Speaker 1: do vote, it's like they're streaming numbers. Likely is you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? It's yeah, the people's choice. I honestly,
Speaker 1: someone should just make a democratized awards show just for
Speaker 1: a laugh to see, like when you let everybody who
Speaker 1: gives a ship vote, like what that looks like. And
Speaker 1: then if you could actually kind of keep to funk
Speaker 1: with like the status quo of award giving as it is,
Speaker 1: because it's so gate cap, just so much gate keeping evolved,
Speaker 1: Like I'm like, I don't know, fucking what about people
Speaker 1: who buy the fucking tickets to where's our award? That
Speaker 1: isn't the MTV Awards? Yeah right? Yeah? And also then
Speaker 1: you you can boost artists that are just like I
Speaker 1: don't know, like I feel like SoundCloud rappers would be
Speaker 1: like legitimized because it would be like a hundred sixteen
Speaker 1: year olds being like, yeah, right, my favorite rapper you
Speaker 1: can't even spell his name. It's donas Sign, Pound Sign
Speaker 1: Percentage assets, right and those. Yeah, that's what is when
Speaker 1: you look at the streaming charts, like, that's what people
Speaker 1: are listening to sound class. Also, revisiting the movies made
Speaker 1: me realize I was so broken two I didn't see
Speaker 1: any of them in New York and I just I
Speaker 1: did not go to movies that whole year. I was like,
Speaker 1: look at this whole list. I was like, I've seen
Speaker 1: none of these. Well that's been I remember because Pat Max.
Speaker 1: I was like, if I don't see this in theaters,
Speaker 1: I almost want to wait and hope there's a rerelease
Speaker 1: because it's clearly a theater movie. It was like, very
Speaker 1: obvious to me. So far it has not happened, but
Speaker 1: I think at some point it'll happen. Someone five years
Speaker 1: on we can demand that they re released it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they would Also, all these movies would have an excuse
Speaker 1: to rerelease it. Like I think one of the arguments
Speaker 1: against doing this is like, well, this gives new movies
Speaker 1: like a boost, but you could also give old movies
Speaker 1: a boost and have the movies that get nominated re
Speaker 1: released so people can go check them out years later.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's like something that like even writing about
Speaker 1: movies when I was at my old job, they we
Speaker 1: would try not to write too many articles about movies
Speaker 1: that hadn't been out for over a year because there's
Speaker 1: just not as many people have seen them, so you
Speaker 1: can't really assume that they have like kind of soaked in. Right.
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about Biden's tax plan, less important stuff, right, Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's doing making some uh progressive gestures, but not putting
Speaker 1: it at pre Trump levels. I mean, the biggest one
Speaker 1: that I see is the corporate tax rate. Uh so, yes,
Speaker 1: Joe Biden has a plan. From the leakers that are
Speaker 1: out there, apparently this is just being weather ballooned now
Speaker 1: because he wants to see how many of his donors
Speaker 1: are like, you kidding me, taxes, Joe. Um. But yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a plan to overhaul the taxes, something that has
Speaker 1: not really been done since ninety three with Bill Clinton.
Speaker 1: Because when you start fucking with rich people's money, as
Speaker 1: we've seen, they will set the fucking world on fire
Speaker 1: with their paid pundits, lobbyists, influencers to tell you about
Speaker 1: how bad it is to raise taxes when really what
Speaker 1: we're trying to do is be able to raise enough
Speaker 1: revenues to you know, fund a lot of programs or
Speaker 1: you know, whatever the administration decides to do with it.
Speaker 1: I don't know, um, but yes, we want more taxes
Speaker 1: because that will hopefully help fund these programs that we
Speaker 1: need for people working, people who aren't making over four
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars a year. So yeah, A couple of
Speaker 1: the points that have come out is bringing the corporate
Speaker 1: tax rate from to it was over thirty eight percent.
Speaker 1: I just want to mention that. So you're not even
Speaker 1: going back to pre okay, well, I'm just I'll remember that, um,
Speaker 1: pairing back tax preferences for like you know, past through
Speaker 1: businesses like little loophole closures, raising the income tax rate
Speaker 1: on individuals were earning more than four hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, cool. So if you just a thing now,
Speaker 1: if you hear listeners, anybody start complaining about raising taxes
Speaker 1: if they don't make over four hundred thousand dollars to
Speaker 1: him to shut the fuck up immediately. Sorry, I just
Speaker 1: to your point there. And I was like, a friend
Speaker 1: tell me he voted for Trump, and uh, I was like,
Speaker 1: what why? Because I know this guy, I know these
Speaker 1: kids in sixth grade. I was really surprised to learn this.
Speaker 1: And he goes, you know, I just gotta keep my
Speaker 1: taxes low for me and my family. And at the time,
Speaker 1: I'm not kidding you, dude, he worked at like he
Speaker 1: worked at a store in the mall. I was like, Bro,
Speaker 1: this isn't a you ain't what this ain't no disrespect
Speaker 1: to working at a store in the mall. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: I love most don't, but you don't have solidarity with
Speaker 1: these other That's not no, no, no, you don't need
Speaker 1: to be in solidarity to do with you. Bro, you're
Speaker 1: not going to see more money you're that's what. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're talking about the motherfucker you complain about who's not
Speaker 1: paying you enough. That's who's gonna get it in that
Speaker 1: that's just gonna get bit with that tax bill, not you,
Speaker 1: and so yes, please don't have this weird solidarity with millionaires. Please,
Speaker 1: this is a very easy thing to do. Um Expanding
Speaker 1: the estate taxes reached like so again shoring up some
Speaker 1: of the laws to be a little more wider reaching. Um.
Speaker 1: But the biggest thing is there's no wealth tax. And
Speaker 1: that's something that I think a lot of people were hopeful,
Speaker 1: you know. And Biden said he would listen to people
Speaker 1: like Elizabeth Warren Warren or Bernie Sanders on stuff like
Speaker 1: this that that would be something that would factor in
Speaker 1: because it's that's just money that's in there, right, what
Speaker 1: do they need to hoard all of this money for?
Speaker 1: We need to take a little bit off the top
Speaker 1: on that. So, uh yeah, I mean it's just that's
Speaker 1: the wealth tax, just to distinguish it from the uh
Speaker 1: tax like heightened tax king of people over four hundred
Speaker 1: thousand dollars, Like the people over four hundred thousand dollars
Speaker 1: are seeing an increase of like one percent, and then
Speaker 1: you get up to eight hundred thousand dollars and it's
Speaker 1: a little bit more. Run over a million, it's a
Speaker 1: little bit more. A wealth tax would be like significant
Speaker 1: taxation that exist before on people who are making like
Speaker 1: hundreds of millions of dollars. And it's also like have
Speaker 1: you ever been around someone who inherited wealth? Like it's
Speaker 1: bad for them. Poisoned. It's like poisoned. Yeah, it is
Speaker 1: a cursed bag of money being hot potatoed down generation
Speaker 1: of generation, each one becoming crazier and more detached and
Speaker 1: more depressed. Like I used to live in Bushwick and
Speaker 1: you would see it like in Brooklyn, like the trust
Speaker 1: fund kids that you know, don't even remember asking one kid,
Speaker 1: what are you paying rent? He goes, oh, I don't,
Speaker 1: I don't know. And it's like and he would just
Speaker 1: sit at this coffee shop slash bar and drink beer
Speaker 1: and shots all day and she had no reason not to.
Speaker 1: He just lived his life hammered, drunk, and he was
Speaker 1: a wreck. And it's like, bro, you need a job.
Speaker 1: You need to need a job, you need to do something,
Speaker 1: you need drive. And it's just like that's the thing is.
Speaker 1: It's like it's very bad for poor people. And we've
Speaker 1: we've covered that. Let's also talk about how bad it
Speaker 1: is for wealthy people, Like that amount of wealth, it's
Speaker 1: bad for you. It makes you fucking crazy, So maybe
Speaker 1: get rid of something, you know exactly. It's like it's
Speaker 1: bad for everybody involved, So why why are we fighting
Speaker 1: for this? Just give them, you know, like let's let's
Speaker 1: make like a little daycare for billionaire kids to pretend
Speaker 1: they got a job and give them a weird little
Speaker 1: sense of self esteem where they're like I made six
Speaker 1: copies today. But that's the whole mentet when you meet
Speaker 1: those people who inherited a lot of money, like that's
Speaker 1: the whole thing is like they realize at some level
Speaker 1: that they're like protect like they have this like air
Speaker 1: where they're like terrified of being accused of like not
Speaker 1: being worth ship because they inherited. It like puts them,
Speaker 1: like you said, can it puts them in a bad position,
Speaker 1: like from Jump Street, Like they're in a bad place
Speaker 1: from a very young age because they rightly are like, man,
Speaker 1: I didn't do ship, and it's hard to even look
Speaker 1: at I. You know, I grew up with kids whose
Speaker 1: parents had enough money that they didn't have to do
Speaker 1: shit ever, and to the point where like they defanged
Speaker 1: de claude them from having life skills in general because
Speaker 1: everything was done for them. And in their adult lives
Speaker 1: they are trying to fill these voids with buying ship, drugs, alcohol, whatever,
Speaker 1: because they got this very skewed sense of what it
Speaker 1: means to have any self worth of just sort of
Speaker 1: like I don't know, it's I get everything in life
Speaker 1: is great, but when you get into your adulthood, that
Speaker 1: ship will really fuck you up because you see all
Speaker 1: your friends who are like, damn, they gotta they're doing
Speaker 1: all this and that, and I'm just like kind of partying,
Speaker 1: but like, you know, like you whatever. I mean. Granted,
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, they have all their money.
Speaker 1: They can cry in their giant pillow, but it's it
Speaker 1: sucks when you try and look at things like the
Speaker 1: wealth inequality in this country. You have someone campaigning on
Speaker 1: like I can do something. We have ideas and be like, hey,
Speaker 1: Warren Buffett, you have eighty over eighty billion dollars, how
Speaker 1: about we come for some of that, and a wealth
Speaker 1: tax would give us what over almost two and a
Speaker 1: half billion dollars of his wealth to begin to help
Speaker 1: properly like rearrange things. But then you get a bunch
Speaker 1: of opinion pieces in the Wall Street Journal, Like literally
Speaker 1: today in the Wall Street Journal, there is an opinion
Speaker 1: that says Warren's wealth tax would wreak damage. So you
Speaker 1: can and these people they sit there and they go,
Speaker 1: we want peace in the streets. Look at all these thongs, right,
Speaker 1: and it's like, why don't you fucking give people a
Speaker 1: place to live in education and healthcare and they won't
Speaker 1: be in the streets. You can literally pay them to
Speaker 1: not do it, that's all. It's all they're asking for.
Speaker 1: All they're asking for is for you to pay them
Speaker 1: and still be the richest person that has ever existed.
Speaker 1: And motherfucker's will be inside. But no one wants to
Speaker 1: be in the streets. People want to be at home
Speaker 1: playing Xbox. They don't want to be out there. Theyn't
Speaker 1: want to put the sticks down and go hold a sign.
Speaker 1: No one wants to do. It's just like, and what's
Speaker 1: crazy too. Trickle down economics does not work. What does happen?
Speaker 1: What does work is trickle down cost And what I
Speaker 1: mean by that is all right, So I noticed it
Speaker 1: in Bushwick. Rich kids take an apartment their dad's paying rents.
Speaker 1: You know what they don't do. They don't negotiate price.
Speaker 1: The landlord says, this is how much this place costs.
Speaker 1: They go great, So now there's an apartment on this
Speaker 1: block that is being rented out for way more than
Speaker 1: it's worth. Because this kid didn't have to even negotiate.
Speaker 1: He didn't even have to try. The landlord tracks him
Speaker 1: as a rich kid. He's seen the paperwork, he knows
Speaker 1: he's got a guarante work. He's like fine, and everyone
Speaker 1: else is paying eight hundred, So now everybody else's least
Speaker 1: comes due. And now there's an apartment on the block
Speaker 1: that's setting this new market. And now these costs are
Speaker 1: being passed down to everybody else on the block. And
Speaker 1: did you see it in the housing market, the fact
Speaker 1: that like you know, I know people that have lost
Speaker 1: one point eight million dollar houses in l A to
Speaker 1: cash offers. That's outrageous, it's crazy to the market, right,
Speaker 1: And then that neighborhood gets infiltrated did by a bunch
Speaker 1: of people who inherited their money or are like a
Speaker 1: head fund millionaires, and then like that neighborhood is no
Speaker 1: longer cool. And then they just go and chase the
Speaker 1: cool people out of like the next neighborhood that has
Speaker 1: value because they aren't there yet. Gentrification all around. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm fully in favor man, Like I guess this
Speaker 1: is vulnerable to admit on a podcast, but I'm like clothes,
Speaker 1: like my my grandpa was like a fucking dirt, poor farmer.
Speaker 1: He started a business, he grew it, my dad took
Speaker 1: it over. I had the choice, and I looked around
Speaker 1: and I was like, if I step into this world
Speaker 1: and I don't work for something, I'm gonna be that guy.
Speaker 1: Like if you have you seen the show Duck Dynasty,
Speaker 1: it's like an old shitty show, but it's funny. It's
Speaker 1: like the grandpa's that started it all grizzled, like arthritic
Speaker 1: hands from working. His sons are like close and then
Speaker 1: the kids are like baby faced frat boys that have
Speaker 1: never and it's like like and I made it. So
Speaker 1: I was like, look, I I don't want to be
Speaker 1: this soft basically like I need to go earn some ship.
Speaker 1: I'm out on that, and I'm appreciative of all of it,
Speaker 1: but like when it comes to in haridy, and part
Speaker 1: of the problem too is people that are in that
Speaker 1: position don't ever talk about it, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like I'm not sitting on a gold mine. I'm not
Speaker 1: one of those people. But I am willing to talk
Speaker 1: about it because I think we need to. And it's
Speaker 1: like if there was a tax proposal that was like
Speaker 1: we're gonna take x Y and Z of the money
Speaker 1: that your parents left for you and use it to
Speaker 1: give it to people that need it. I am like,
Speaker 1: fucking do it, man. I didn't earn this ship. I
Speaker 1: don't want it like I want to earn my key,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And because it's also better
Speaker 1: for me, it's better for it's better for me, I mean,
Speaker 1: earn it or not, you know, Like that's I think
Speaker 1: that can kind of be a loaded term, but at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, you're open to the idea
Speaker 1: that you have things that you're willing to share with
Speaker 1: other people artless, and I think that's just a sentiment
Speaker 1: that whatever through the media or you know, consumer culture,
Speaker 1: we just can't. So many people are still like they
Speaker 1: have like the thought ends and being like help people
Speaker 1: what what they do? Because I'm out your grandfather, because
Speaker 1: everyone is being ground down to the bone. So it
Speaker 1: feels fucked like some people like, well, why but I
Speaker 1: need help? I know that's why. Let's let's start looking
Speaker 1: at the people who don't need help at all and
Speaker 1: take their ship about that. And it's also for four
Speaker 1: dollars a year, you still become a millionaire in a
Speaker 1: flash of an eye, right, Yeah, it's a couple of
Speaker 1: years of that, you gon'll be on your way. Right.
Speaker 1: The other way that the like sort of an underrated
Speaker 1: way that the current system damages the country is billionaires
Speaker 1: and trillion like the Warren Buffets of the world, Like
Speaker 1: that dude spends all his time thinking about what to
Speaker 1: do with the money he already has, and like philanthropy
Speaker 1: in quotes, but like his philanthropy is like kind of
Speaker 1: racist and like focused on like population controlling ship because yeah,
Speaker 1: there is just this like built in assumption that like,
Speaker 1: well you can't give it to the government. It's like,
Speaker 1: what why the funk not? I just you know, because
Speaker 1: we don't pay for the Washreet Journal. I just want
Speaker 1: to read part of this opinion piece before it hides
Speaker 1: behind the paywall, because it sums up exactly whenever look Biden,
Speaker 1: there's talk about a wealth hike. Of course, right on
Speaker 1: fucking time, the Wall Street Journal, the voice of fucking
Speaker 1: wealth hoarder, goblin motherfucker's comes out with this opinion piece
Speaker 1: as if it's from a guy from just Bethesda, Maryland,
Speaker 1: and it very well could be, but it's someone who's
Speaker 1: sip fucking mainlineing the beer bong in the kool aid,
Speaker 1: and it just says. So they go on to attack
Speaker 1: the this idea of a wealth tax, they said, Rather,
Speaker 1: it said, the policy prescription isn't primarily about raising funds,
Speaker 1: although she would no doubt be delighted if the U
Speaker 1: S tax coffers grew as a result. Rather, it is
Speaker 1: primarily about turning ultra millionaires and billionaires into the boogeyman
Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan. It was the government for Donald Trump. It
Speaker 1: was the press for Elizabeth Warren. It is rich people
Speaker 1: who share an evil trade. They all regularly engage in
Speaker 1: the obscene act of wealth accumulation. Yeah, that's that's true.
Speaker 1: That's what. That's what people besides the people who pay
Speaker 1: a hundred dollars a month for your fucking newspaper thing. Uh,
Speaker 1: they have that article, by the way, on tap like
Speaker 1: like it's an a bit for Keith Conturds. They just
Speaker 1: have that ready to go like whenever. It's also it's
Speaker 1: also like once you have a certain amount of money,
Speaker 1: your money makes money, right, like, yeah, the idea that
Speaker 1: you need over like, over a certain amount of money,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter how much they take from you, because
Speaker 1: it's just sitting in a hundred different funds, earning interests
Speaker 1: faster than you can spend it. So what the fund
Speaker 1: are you talking? And it's this idea to like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, if you cap it, then what's the incentive
Speaker 1: to like start Microsoft? Well, you know you'll still be
Speaker 1: a hundred millionaire. I think the guys, you know what,
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm gonna invent the computer because I'll
Speaker 1: only be a hundred million that watch, because there's billions
Speaker 1: of people on earth who have will do it for less,
Speaker 1: who have a vision for their own future that doesn't
Speaker 1: require millions of dollars. Most people's dreams are just to
Speaker 1: fucking survive, to be comfortable, to take a fucking weekend off,
Speaker 1: hug your kids, catch the game, whatever, be with your family.
Speaker 1: Not oh, I need not funk that I'm I'm voting
Speaker 1: for Trump because I need six yachts. That's that's a
Speaker 1: that's not Most people are trying to just fucking live.
Speaker 1: Nobody's moving to another country because they can't pay for
Speaker 1: their sixth yacht. Like that's that's not what They're going
Speaker 1: to move to another country because you have let the
Speaker 1: social fabric and the social safety net just degrade to
Speaker 1: a point that it's no longer a place that it's
Speaker 1: also curiating, is these billionaires get the money back. That's okay.
Speaker 1: Trickle down economics does not work. You know what does
Speaker 1: trickle up? You give people that need money money, they
Speaker 1: spend it immediately because they have all this ship that
Speaker 1: they need, and who they buy it from? You, because
Speaker 1: you're the ones that So if you're Jeff Bezos, if
Speaker 1: you give out a hundre million dollars, you're gonna get
Speaker 1: it right back because everyone's gonna go on Amazon and
Speaker 1: order all the ship they need. Because Jeff Bezos thinks
Speaker 1: they're like, well, I don't know people, like, donaling know
Speaker 1: other billionaires, and if you gave him a hundred millions,
Speaker 1: they're gonna turn them and put that in a mutual
Speaker 1: funded Like what the fuck? Like, No, you don't even
Speaker 1: know people. Y'all don't even know regular people anymore. So
Speaker 1: I thought this was a good, uh kind of window
Speaker 1: into the Wall Street Journal readership and opinion piece that
Speaker 1: I just like copied the headline down over the weekend
Speaker 1: UH Wall Street Journal opinion piece that was trending, how
Speaker 1: to say no when you're adult children ask for financial
Speaker 1: help it's like it's like the uh yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: it's what it's what uh the movie Nomad Land, like
Speaker 1: the fact that there there's just the generational cliff that
Speaker 1: we fell off in terms of wealth accumulation, and the
Speaker 1: older generation is just like, stay the funk out out
Speaker 1: of my way, man, Like, we're gonna carry this with
Speaker 1: me to the grave. Yeah, and then they'll give it
Speaker 1: to their fail fail kids. Yeah, alright, let's take a
Speaker 1: quick break. We'll be right back and we're back. Uh.
Speaker 1: And a couple of food stories there. There's a BuzzFeed
Speaker 1: quiz uh that claims with a lot of confidence that
Speaker 1: they're gonna tell you how old you are based on
Speaker 1: your food preferences just picking sixty fucking items off a list.
Speaker 1: They're saying, we'll fucking will zero in on your asp
Speaker 1: no one, if you like, just pick and just click
Speaker 1: what you like off the sixty itemn you motherfucker, and
Speaker 1: we'll know what carbon nature as will cut you a
Speaker 1: half and count the rings. So I just want to
Speaker 1: first allow people to know what's on this list, because
Speaker 1: it's interesting there the way they're trying to triangulate things.
Speaker 1: The first thirty are definitely like young people dishes, asa
Speaker 1: e bowls, avocado toast, impossible, burger, chrone, nut, kombucha, charcoal
Speaker 1: ice cream, Okay, find Zoodle's cold press juice, you get it.
Speaker 1: And then the next list is more like, okay, let's
Speaker 1: see how how old you are with it, ambrosia, meat loaf,
Speaker 1: fig rolls, butter, pecan ice cream, which I was like, well,
Speaker 1: hold on, don't act like there's an age to butter
Speaker 1: that that ship is. Yeah, the cold slaw, potato salad, fruitcake, liquorice, jello, oatmeal,
Speaker 1: raisin brand ship like that. So I went through, I
Speaker 1: clicked what I like, and I will report that with
Speaker 1: near I will be thirty seven this year. It said
Speaker 1: I'm thirty eight years old, and it got me within
Speaker 1: two years. I said I was thirty eight and I'm forty,
Speaker 1: and I got me with him four I said I
Speaker 1: was thirty eight. I'm thirty four, but I'm an old soul.
Speaker 1: See damn, we're so we're all we all clucked in
Speaker 1: at thirty eight. Yeah, maybe maybe it's just like this.
Speaker 1: Our average readership is thirty eight years. Just tell everybody there,
Speaker 1: thirty eight. I just did a I just did an
Speaker 1: experiment where I picked none on the first screen and
Speaker 1: picked like the ones that I chose from the second screen. Uh,
Speaker 1: and it said I was fifty ah and the wording
Speaker 1: we were close, weren't we? If not, there's probably a
Speaker 1: food or two you checked off that you don't actually
Speaker 1: like what alright? I guess lit like there was a
Speaker 1: couple of like a clear trap. It was like jello molds,
Speaker 1: and it's like, okay, you're just trying to hard literally
Speaker 1: hard candies. And it's like, come on, that's that's you
Speaker 1: know what. They almost caught me though, because I was thinking,
Speaker 1: because I like, I was like, well what kind you know?
Speaker 1: I said, like hards, jolly ranchers, I like fucking blow pops.
Speaker 1: But they made it look like the Grandma Grandpa candy
Speaker 1: dish that never that you were always disappointed you pulled
Speaker 1: the candy out of as a kid. And the jello
Speaker 1: is actually just jello, it's not jello mold. But they
Speaker 1: do use a picture that looks like the old ask
Speaker 1: jello molds from like a seventies cookbook. Pretzels is an
Speaker 1: old person food. Nah, I mean pretzels, I think is
Speaker 1: it's timeless? Timeless? They're times yes, grapefruit juices in the
Speaker 1: old person category. I'm assuming because it's with all the
Speaker 1: it's with like tapioca pudding. I know what pudding is like,
Speaker 1: that's that's what they served the people whose whose teeth
Speaker 1: have failed them clicked, I clicked it. I like tapioca,
Speaker 1: but I love it so good. Well, alright, so maybe
Speaker 1: you did, right, Yeah, y'all take the quiz to let
Speaker 1: us know how accurate is. Yeah, I'm curious if like
Speaker 1: I'm wonder if you know. I'm sure there's some data
Speaker 1: nerd there who knows that there's probably ones that are
Speaker 1: really loaded, you know what I mean, that will swing
Speaker 1: the age at certain points. So do some sleuthing you'll
Speaker 1: get back to us. Yeah, meat loaf definitely pulled me
Speaker 1: up like five years because I checked the ship out
Speaker 1: of meat. Yeah, but definitely. Oh so you're seventy. We
Speaker 1: thought you were twenty five. But there's like so many
Speaker 1: like new spins on meat loaf out there, like in
Speaker 1: the on the blah, you know, the food plugs that
Speaker 1: I could see that being popular. One whole milk makes
Speaker 1: me old then, you know, call me Moses day any day.
Speaker 1: Come on, that's the older I get the less darea
Speaker 1: I can take. So m damn take that. Take that alright,
Speaker 1: Let's talk about another food story Oreo has. You know,
Speaker 1: this is like, to put it in the terms of
Speaker 1: the sport they're taking advantage of here. This is like
Speaker 1: the biggest layup of marketing ever. They did a NBA
Speaker 1: dynasty Oreo and selected six teams Lakers, Celtics, Bulls, Warrior, Spurs,
Speaker 1: Heat and then just basically trolling every other NBA team essentially.
Speaker 1: So this is where I think this this cookie allowed
Speaker 1: us to enter into yet another conversation about the NBA
Speaker 1: because for me, it's hard when you say dynasty because
Speaker 1: even when the NBA, I feel like there are dynastic
Speaker 1: tiers for starters, the Lakers and Celtics are in their
Speaker 1: own category. But like, I believe that, you can come
Speaker 1: at me all you want, But the numbers don't lie.
Speaker 1: They saw there picking a specific miles. Are they picking
Speaker 1: a specific dynasty Like is it Lakers with Shack n Kobe? No,
Speaker 1: there's no, there's no that. Even the press releases like
Speaker 1: to celebrate the NBA's DYNA dynasty teams or whatever. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I'm like I get that, you know, like you
Speaker 1: got bill like that. There's the there's it's the histories,
Speaker 1: there the bulls. This ship is nailed on the Warriors.
Speaker 1: I get it. They had they had their they had
Speaker 1: their little run with that team Spurs. I believe that
Speaker 1: they should be there as well. We were there, we saw,
Speaker 1: we saw what happened. And then so this is where
Speaker 1: it gets a little weird for me. The heat. Now,
Speaker 1: I understand in twelve and thirteen went back to back,
Speaker 1: and then previously before that what they want in like
Speaker 1: two thousand six or something like that. So if we're
Speaker 1: going off of teams who have just didnt went back
Speaker 1: to back years and then a Lucy for their third,
Speaker 1: the pistons have to be in there. The pistons have
Speaker 1: to be in there. You can you can either take
Speaker 1: the heat out or add the pistons. I don't care,
Speaker 1: but the pistons have to be there. The pistons taught
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's how to get tough, and I think you
Speaker 1: can't undervalue They beat the ship out of him and
Speaker 1: he started lifting weights, So, um, I feel like that
Speaker 1: has to be added there. But then then you got
Speaker 1: the rockets, the Tooston Rockets, Yeah came, you know, came
Speaker 1: back to back and like, I mean they didn't get
Speaker 1: that lucy third, but they were in the Western Conference
Speaker 1: finals for instantly as even like that, if it wasn't
Speaker 1: for the Bulls, the Stockton and Malone Jazz are just
Speaker 1: living in the Western Conference big net that championship, them
Speaker 1: and the and them and the Clippers. I'll love to
Speaker 1: see that always. But yeah, I mean like it's I
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know how what would you consider
Speaker 1: a dynasty, because you know, the Sixers have three rings,
Speaker 1: although they're all over the place, like they're they're separated
Speaker 1: by many years. They did when I was like ten
Speaker 1: or something. I remember this like crunch bar uh promotion
Speaker 1: they did where each NBA team that had won a
Speaker 1: title got a crunch bar, and I think it was
Speaker 1: like focused on like the best, so like, uh, the
Speaker 1: seventies seven Blazers, I like saved that until it melted, uh,
Speaker 1: and like that that was kind of dope. But like
Speaker 1: I feel like this, I don't know, like it feels
Speaker 1: almost like it it should be honoring just the team,
Speaker 1: because yeah, like you said, the Heat have three, but
Speaker 1: then like they're franchises that have more than that that
Speaker 1: aren't on here, right, that's not well, there's no one
Speaker 1: that has more than the than three that isn't on here. Really,
Speaker 1: the disrespect starts happening at the three titles teams, which
Speaker 1: leaves out the Sixers and the Pistons. Oh wow, I
Speaker 1: didn't realize that that few teams had titles, so uh uh.
Speaker 1: And then when you when you're talking about people with deuces,
Speaker 1: that's the Knicks and the Rockets, and then everyone else
Speaker 1: is just singles. Right, But it does feel like this
Speaker 1: would be more interesting if they were if the Kobe
Speaker 1: Shack Lakers got a separate one and the Magic were
Speaker 1: the Kareem Lakers got another one, and the which Celtics.
Speaker 1: I guess it would be Bird and Bill Ruffian. You
Speaker 1: could do the you know, Jerry West and like will
Speaker 1: you could. There's there's many you know, you can mix
Speaker 1: it up. I also like a dynasty is like the
Speaker 1: same cord of players winning more titles such a time.
Speaker 1: Yeah you know that to your point, like the Lakers
Speaker 1: are a dynasty of a franchise, but they had multiple
Speaker 1: dynasty teams. It's kind of the deal. And that's why
Speaker 1: the Warriors count, right. It's like Steph Clay Draymond. You
Speaker 1: can clearly say, all right, it's this core guys, the Spurs,
Speaker 1: Tim Duncan, Manu, Tony Parker, Um. Heat is all Wade
Speaker 1: like they're all Wade wins. Earlier, earlier in his career
Speaker 1: was Shack and then with the heatles yeah and then yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's interesting. I feel like they should
Speaker 1: have gone bigger. Uh. But Oreo always has me man
Speaker 1: when they when they release a new a new flavor,
Speaker 1: I'm always there to give it a shot. Um, and
Speaker 1: I'll probably I did not get the Gaga uh chromatica
Speaker 1: Oreos because that chromatica is not a food. Um. But
Speaker 1: but NBA dynasty is a My doctor said, I have
Speaker 1: NBA dynasty deficiencies, so I should also the uh cookie.
Speaker 1: The chocolate part of the cookie is like dark black,
Speaker 1: like the rubber in the basketball. So that's kind of gross.
Speaker 1: I feel like it is. Don't you think it's like dark?
Speaker 1: It's really like blackish. It's like charcoal color more than
Speaker 1: it's chocolate colored. I've always about you all the want
Speaker 1: all right, and real quick, I want to talk about
Speaker 1: this thing Spain is testing out called a a four
Speaker 1: day work week. What Miles just stick coffee all over
Speaker 1: the comi fuck fest over there. So they are trying out.
Speaker 1: It's a three year program which will partly subsidize the
Speaker 1: cost of companies willing to try out the four day
Speaker 1: work week as long as the companies agree that there
Speaker 1: will be no loss of salary or jobs. So yeah,
Speaker 1: very very much. Uh something that would make Tucker Carlson
Speaker 1: like die on air um if if America tried it,
Speaker 1: but probably more Seawan Hannity because Tucker Carlson does show
Speaker 1: uh commy sympathies every once in a while. But the
Speaker 1: the only red lines they say is that there would
Speaker 1: be you can get the subsidies from the government as
Speaker 1: long as there is a true reduction of working hours
Speaker 1: and no loss of salary or jobs. A Japan, Scotland, Finland,
Speaker 1: New Zealand all thinking about trying this out. And there's
Speaker 1: really no reason not to do this because first of all,
Speaker 1: environmental benefit, which we need to be thinking about more
Speaker 1: and more starting twenty years ago. And and also research
Speaker 1: has shown that it makes companies more money because employees
Speaker 1: are productive more money with LEIN, So employees are more productive,
Speaker 1: they take fewer sick days, and their costs go down overall,
Speaker 1: like Microsoft Japan in studio four day work weeken found
Speaker 1: that productivity rose by and electricity costs felled by Um.
Speaker 1: I mean also, but you know, just to put that
Speaker 1: through a lens of understanding, Japan is like a working culture.
Speaker 1: Japan is one of the few developed nations where people
Speaker 1: will die from over working at an office job. So
Speaker 1: you know this, it's it's there truly slightly different, but
Speaker 1: that is really something else to look at it like that,
Speaker 1: because yeah, you're looking at people who are being run
Speaker 1: ragged by their jobs and you're like one day off
Speaker 1: and they're somehow doing it better even though we thought
Speaker 1: they were killing it with their ninety work weeks. And
Speaker 1: you know, Jmr Writer points out that five day, forty
Speaker 1: hour work weeks were basically created uh during the Great Depression.
Speaker 1: Uh So like the two day weekend is not an
Speaker 1: immutable fact. Uh. And in fact, like in the at
Speaker 1: that time, John Maynard Keynes uh speculated and twenty eight
Speaker 1: that or Canes I don't know how you pronounced that,
Speaker 1: speculated Canes um Uh. He speculated that technology would afford
Speaker 1: people to work week of fifteen hours within a hundred years. Uh.
Speaker 1: And the two day weekend. To put it in perspective,
Speaker 1: in America, is the same age as Patrick Stewart. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well cool. First of all, I don't know if you
Speaker 1: guys have worked in offices. I've worked in many I've
Speaker 1: I've had day jobs my entire adult life, and it's
Speaker 1: just incluising off my trust fund. But this sounds awful, dude. Yeah, dude,
Speaker 1: it sounds like there be more people to hang out
Speaker 1: with at the bar when we're just drinking all day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm with whatever you guys are down for if it's
Speaker 1: four days. But yeah, tell me, Kenny, what's it like?
Speaker 1: What do you guy think about the zero day? Come on,
Speaker 1: get on this on my program? Yeah. Um, but like
Speaker 1: most of the time, and you're wasting time, dude, Like,
Speaker 1: no one he is doing ship at an office. Man,
Speaker 1: it's just like looking at Facebook or Twitter until your
Speaker 1: boss walks by and then you minimize it into like
Speaker 1: twenty men to work and they do a great job.
Speaker 1: You're doing great. Yeah, but it's like the thing is
Speaker 1: a cultural thing. No one wants their grandpa to call
Speaker 1: them soft, and so everyone's like, oh, work works sixty
Speaker 1: It's like but the work's not necessary, But we just
Speaker 1: don't want the older generations to call us soft even
Speaker 1: though we are, and it's fine, just be soft fine,
Speaker 1: And so we're just like, nah, it's it's work eighty
Speaker 1: hours and I'll work with this best to us like
Speaker 1: my grandfather used, because I'm working hard. It's whole. I
Speaker 1: know we don't burn coal anymore, but I'm gonna mind it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: right now. I don't give a about no black lung.
Speaker 1: I'm hard as funck like my grandfather, because we do
Speaker 1: have I think Americans this idea like weird relationship with
Speaker 1: what work is because like many of us can point
Speaker 1: to anecdotal stories of our parents being like, man, it
Speaker 1: was fucked up when I used to work, And you're
Speaker 1: like and then like in our new world of like
Speaker 1: technologically advanced, you know, industries and things like that. You like,
Speaker 1: but my hands aren't calloused in the same way, and
Speaker 1: my back, my spine is functioning normally. Is this work?
Speaker 1: So I guess I should go harder because at the
Speaker 1: very my back's not broken. But I can put in
Speaker 1: triple hours. But so wonder how full of ship they are? Man.
Speaker 1: Everybody's everybody's version of their story is that they worked
Speaker 1: harder than anyone that's ever worked, because like you look
Speaker 1: at historical accounts of life, and life has sounded like
Speaker 1: kind of similar. Like I'm not saying it wasn't worse.
Speaker 1: Obviously things are way better now medical advances, technology, I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that. But like we're watching a show right
Speaker 1: now called Buried by Bernard's Fantastic, highly recommend ten out
Speaker 1: of Town. It's a funeral home in Memphis. Everyone that
Speaker 1: runs it as sucking hilarious. But the grandma on the
Speaker 1: show is like always shaming the grandkids. But then they
Speaker 1: they're like cut to the sun and it's like she's
Speaker 1: literally never working. She just sitting her office. They catch
Speaker 1: her napping all the time. She's doing nothing, Like it's
Speaker 1: just but that's it's I think about comedy, everyone's like YouTube,
Speaker 1: you have it so easy. Like you look in the nineties,
Speaker 1: if you had five minutes of stand up comedy, you've
Speaker 1: got a million dollars in an hour special like funk Off.
Speaker 1: You know, It's like I was rading a story from
Speaker 1: Jerry Lewis. He's like, yeah, I've been doing it for
Speaker 1: three years and nothing had happened for me. I was
Speaker 1: about to Jesus. Yeah, there's just from a macro economic standpoint.
Speaker 1: Uh for Kenny, I too. Uh have read a economics
Speaker 1: article once. A two thous report found that the average
Speaker 1: American works uh one tho seven and thirty nine hours
Speaker 1: more than the people in comparatively wealthy countries. That's a
Speaker 1: lot um and across almost all countries. The richer nation
Speaker 1: is the less time it's workers spend on the job.
Speaker 1: But which they're like, that makes sense. The more output
Speaker 1: in nations economy is producing per unit of labor, the
Speaker 1: more free time workers can have because there's like what
Speaker 1: like business people call the flywheel effect, where like momentum
Speaker 1: picks up. But at the US, as the US gets wealthier,
Speaker 1: like that mindset that we're talking about is like like
Speaker 1: we don't let that trickle down. We we've got to
Speaker 1: be hard on our workers. Yeah. The difference is like
Speaker 1: those other countries, like the wealth is going up, the
Speaker 1: citizens on some level are experiencing that on some relative level,
Speaker 1: whether that's through social welfare programs or subsidized healthcare, you know, childcare,
Speaker 1: things like that, that's where it goes. But in this country,
Speaker 1: people work harder for all the money to just stay
Speaker 1: fucking up there and people to just be work harder
Speaker 1: for fucking less, over and over and I eventually, you'd hope.
Speaker 1: I think that's why so many people like, when are
Speaker 1: we going to reach this point where a plurality of
Speaker 1: workers understand that they are absolutely being wrecked by their
Speaker 1: employers and being squeezed the fuck out for every bit
Speaker 1: of soul, breath, oxygen they have so they can just
Speaker 1: hoard the wealth. And then when does that turning point
Speaker 1: come where most people be like, I'm off, this part
Speaker 1: is in bullshit because at the end of the day, like,
Speaker 1: I'm looking objectively at my lived experience and it's bad,
Speaker 1: and I know that people who are actually in the
Speaker 1: ownership class are the ones that are reaping all the
Speaker 1: benefits while we are suffering. So what can we now
Speaker 1: do with that? Because I'm done with all this other ship.
Speaker 1: I don't know when we're going to reach that point,
Speaker 1: but that is, you hope, that's the realization we're gonna
Speaker 1: make quickly. Maybe this is my tinfoil hat here, but
Speaker 1: I think half the reason why is people in power
Speaker 1: know that if you give workers more time, they're going
Speaker 1: to have more time to realize they're being fucked. Like
Speaker 1: that's why some of the COVID conspiracy theories are crazy.
Speaker 1: To me. It was like, how the wealthy did this?
Speaker 1: But it's like the last thing they want is for
Speaker 1: us to have one year to watch documentaries about how
Speaker 1: fox capitalism is, which is exactly what we've all been
Speaker 1: doing for the last year. So it's and it's also
Speaker 1: a power thing, like and there's also race elements here too.
Speaker 1: The working class is anytime black and brown people start
Speaker 1: to get power or freedom or agency, wealthy white people
Speaker 1: freak the fuck out because they're so defensive because they
Speaker 1: know that this whole ship is built on a shaky
Speaker 1: house of cards of racism and oppression, shaky race cards.
Speaker 1: Shake your race cards, right, he's shaking little race cards. Um.
Speaker 1: And so they just they get out their spear and
Speaker 1: they go back back back back to work, and it's
Speaker 1: just it's yeah. And then they don't want to fund
Speaker 1: the government programs that feed their employees because they don't
Speaker 1: pay their employees enough to not be on food stamps,
Speaker 1: so you know, right, and then the media is controlled
Speaker 1: by giant corporations and then they'll just be like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's not them, it's immigrants or it's Hey, did you
Speaker 1: hear about these trans kids trying to compete in sports? Huh?
Speaker 1: What about that? Huh? Let's let's let's debate that rather
Speaker 1: than like really fundamental issues, because the most fundamental questions
Speaker 1: aren't talked about on the media, which is, do Americans
Speaker 1: deserve to live even though they don't have a job
Speaker 1: or should they die? Straight up? Because that's what it
Speaker 1: looks like right now. Either work and you can you
Speaker 1: can eke out a living and possibly do better, or
Speaker 1: you don't work and it's it's it's probably lights out
Speaker 1: for you. And is that a problem coming up next?
Speaker 1: After these messages from GM, No, it ain't happening. Amazon
Speaker 1: is an interesting case. Studies just Amazon workers reportedly work
Speaker 1: eighty hours a week on average, and I assumed. I
Speaker 1: remember when it was announced that Bezos was stepping back
Speaker 1: to just be like chairman of the board and no
Speaker 1: longer CEO. My initial thought was like, Oh, that's gonna
Speaker 1: be tough for him. He's like such a hard worker. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then you read the articles and it's like Bezos
Speaker 1: hasn't really been seen at work for the past three years. Uh,
Speaker 1: he never takes a meeting like past noon and is
Speaker 1: like has a policy of like not never showing up
Speaker 1: or like it's just like, yeah, he's just been like
Speaker 1: chilling because he's the richest human being in the history
Speaker 1: of the world. So but we have that mentality that, like,
Speaker 1: anybody who's at the top of this hard working organization
Speaker 1: must be the hardest working. Just like that was an
Speaker 1: assumption that was just like built into me. And I
Speaker 1: think a lot of people it's like truly not. They
Speaker 1: might have more education or you know, a smarter business sense,
Speaker 1: but in terms of hard work, it's laborers. Laborers do
Speaker 1: the hardest work. I worked on a moving truck in
Speaker 1: New York City for five and a half years. I
Speaker 1: can tell you the people carrying the fucking dresser up
Speaker 1: the stairs are doing the hardest thing at that job period, man,
Speaker 1: you know. And it's the same thing everywhere. It's like
Speaker 1: and those are the people that always get fun. They
Speaker 1: try to unionize, and then all of a sudden there's
Speaker 1: a whole propaganda against unions out and all of a
Speaker 1: sudden that's being demonized, and it's just it's it's really
Speaker 1: but workers here don't feel like they deserve it. And again,
Speaker 1: it's that mentality we were talking about it, like, well,
Speaker 1: our grandparents worked their fingers to nubs, So yeah, I
Speaker 1: guess I just I think of that ship all the time.
Speaker 1: I'm a podcaster, you know, and I think about what
Speaker 1: my fucking grandparents did in Chicago in the forties, or
Speaker 1: like what my grandparents did in Japan, like trying to
Speaker 1: like operate in the ashes of World War two. I'm like, fuck, bro,
Speaker 1: But then I have to you also have to be
Speaker 1: It's it's that's also like a self torturing mechanism that
Speaker 1: it's in built in all of us to just kind
Speaker 1: of keep you know. That's that's a whole other look.
Speaker 1: Like I said, I'm a therapy today. But the whole
Speaker 1: thing about it is really being able to embrace like
Speaker 1: the efficiency and what the boundaries are and how much
Speaker 1: we've come along to say, well, that was normal then,
Speaker 1: but that's no longer normal now. It's like we're not
Speaker 1: looking at the media entertainment of the fifties and be
Speaker 1: like this ship still tracks. No, it does not, because
Speaker 1: we've moved on. So the same way we look at
Speaker 1: work also needs to evolve rather than like rise and
Speaker 1: grind motherfucker right, And if we ask your grandparents right now, like,
Speaker 1: would you want us to do that? To be like, no,
Speaker 1: you don't have to. I want my I want my
Speaker 1: grandson to be a podcaster. You know what that looks
Speaker 1: like to them, They're like, we did it, We did it.
Speaker 1: My family line is now podcasting. Thinking about is further
Speaker 1: back ancestors who are in a cotton field picking cotton, thinking, God, damn,
Speaker 1: if life could only be easier for my descendants going forward,
Speaker 1: because this is fun. This is slavery, and what's fucked
Speaker 1: up is we're just still seeing versions of it now.
Speaker 1: But now it's like slavery with a credit card, so
Speaker 1: you can buy some sick fits at the same time.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, it's like you know,
Speaker 1: and Jan was mentioning to like even with with Ford,
Speaker 1: he was like, Yo, these motherfuckers need free time because
Speaker 1: I need them to give me their money by buying
Speaker 1: ship after I pay them for their work, so they
Speaker 1: kind of need free time. So even the even the
Speaker 1: capitalists were thinking about what the value is to have
Speaker 1: somebody have enough time, have enough money, and even in
Speaker 1: their fucked up you know, calculus are like, yeah, because
Speaker 1: then I can get that ship back sustainability in all
Speaker 1: aspects of American capitalism is like unfortunately, like not the
Speaker 1: first thing that anybody thinks about. Well, that is like
Speaker 1: one thing too. Like I so, I I studied Econo College.
Speaker 1: I was my major. I found it very interesting, and
Speaker 1: I always say I have like a capitalist brain and
Speaker 1: his socialist heart. So I'm always trying to like reconcile
Speaker 1: the two. And I think one one problem, one issue
Speaker 1: that left has a little bit is we I say we.
Speaker 1: I I consider myself you know very left is a
Speaker 1: lot of us have just like hate capitalism so much.
Speaker 1: We don't learn how it works, we don't think about it.
Speaker 1: We want to burn it to the ground. And I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that's not the right feeling, but you lose
Speaker 1: the ability to speak the language that the capitalists use.
Speaker 1: And I think to my point earlier about like we
Speaker 1: focus so much on how awful capitalism is for the poor,
Speaker 1: also pointing out, hey, socialism can also be really good
Speaker 1: for your rich ass because it's more money in the
Speaker 1: purchasing power of the population grows, You're gonna get that money.
Speaker 1: Act Like every type of stimulus check hits all the
Speaker 1: rich get richer because we're spending money with their ship.
Speaker 1: So that's that's the way to sell it. Like, you know,
Speaker 1: if you're going to a ford and been like, hey,
Speaker 1: four day work week because people are tired. They want
Speaker 1: to be with their families. But I don't give a ship.
Speaker 1: But if if you go, hey, forward, you'll get more.
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, ship, four day work week, let's do
Speaker 1: it right now. It's the same thing with like that
Speaker 1: Mackenzie study we're talking about, where the Mackenzie is like, hey, Hollywood,
Speaker 1: you're leaving ten billion dollars on the table by not
Speaker 1: hiring black people in the entertainment industry and creating more
Speaker 1: films that are just more diverse. You are leaving ten
Speaker 1: billion dollars a year on the table by staying entrenched
Speaker 1: in this rigid thinking um. And I'm like, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's And we were saying the same point. It's like, ship,
Speaker 1: they might have to dangle a ten billion dollar carrot
Speaker 1: in front of the industry for them, like fun, ye,
Speaker 1: all right, we gotta do something about this. Man, Like
Speaker 1: if we hire more people of color and and tell
Speaker 1: different stories like that, that actually benefits us. According to
Speaker 1: the other capitalists, the smart capitalists that are like you're
Speaker 1: leaving money out there guys. Right, Well, Kenny, it has
Speaker 1: been such a pleasure having you as always on Daily Zeitgeist.
Speaker 1: Where can people find you? Follow you, experience you? Man,
Speaker 1: I'm at Kenny DeForest uh d E f O R
Speaker 1: E S T one R on Twitter, on Instagram. Those
Speaker 1: are my primaries, and I got a website Kennedy to
Speaker 1: Forest dot com. I'm sure I'll be touring again once
Speaker 1: it's safe to do so. And uh yeah, can watch
Speaker 1: me do stand up? I gotta podcast that'll be coming
Speaker 1: out soon, so look for that and uh, that's it, man,
Speaker 1: that's that's my plugs. Go watch Kenny stand up on
Speaker 1: his website or wherever you find it, and then uh yeah,
Speaker 1: go see him in person. He's hilarious. Thank Um. Is
Speaker 1: there a tweet or some of the work of social
Speaker 1: media you've been enjoying? Yes, Uh, there's always just like
Speaker 1: a random viral tweet that's like funnier than anything a
Speaker 1: comedian has said. Right, So this is at b r
Speaker 1: j x V. Her name is just b and the
Speaker 1: tweet was I like Seth Rogan, he smoked a little
Speaker 1: weed and it's spelled oh u I apostrophe d I
Speaker 1: like that he smoke a little weed, he makes a
Speaker 1: little vase, he stay out the way nice and I
Speaker 1: think that's great weed weed weed, and it's you know,
Speaker 1: standing in your lane's power to Yeah, you know, Miles,
Speaker 1: where can people find you? What's tweet you've been enjoying? Twitter, Instagram,
Speaker 1: PlayStation network, Miles of Gray. Also the other podcast for
Speaker 1: twenty Day Fiance where we talk ninety day fiance and
Speaker 1: you know what Today Tuesday we're on twitch dot tv
Speaker 1: slash for Fiance for twenty Pacific. Come through watch us,
Speaker 1: you know, talk the show and many other things. Some
Speaker 1: tweets that I like, first one from Jamie Loftus at
Speaker 1: Jamie Loftus Help why am I able to just sux someone?
Speaker 1: But the intimacy of asking them how their shower works
Speaker 1: is too much? There's Yeah, there's something about that. Also
Speaker 1: Super super producer Anna Hoosnia at Anna Hosnia. You know
Speaker 1: that feeling when you've been in quarantine too long and
Speaker 1: your boyfriend likes one type of toilet paper and you
Speaker 1: like another, and someone must die. I'm really curious to
Speaker 1: know what the two schools of toilet paper are because
Speaker 1: I feel like the own it's either it's either too
Speaker 1: rough that is just chopping up your butt hole, or
Speaker 1: it's too soft that it breaks apart. But I've not
Speaker 1: encountered much too soft, usually than it means it's too cheap.
Speaker 1: All that to say he's the big day, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? And then you just just just your
Speaker 1: dab in your eye at that point, you know, like
Speaker 1: like you're weeping a little bit exactly. Um. And then
Speaker 1: a few more a few people from the Zeke Gang
Speaker 1: tagged me, and this tweet from Paul Palmary at this
Speaker 1: Paul for those of you who who dislike Matt Damon. Uh,
Speaker 1: one time he was at my bar completely ship faced.
Speaker 1: He fell and split his head open, and when security
Speaker 1: got to him and did their safety check, they asked
Speaker 1: if he knew who he was. He said, come on, guys,
Speaker 1: it's me Matt Damon from We Bought a Zoo and
Speaker 1: one last one from Leona at Killing GF. Guy's tender Bibles.
Speaker 1: Guy's tender Bibles be like six too, because apparently that matters.
Speaker 1: Why don't nobody give a fuck? You make me six
Speaker 1: to my stomach. That's great, that's great. Uh. Couple of
Speaker 1: tweets have been enjoying the great damn white, he tweeted.
Speaker 1: He tweeted, well, already got my stimulus. Amazing how quickly
Speaker 1: things get done when you have adults in charge. Don't
Speaker 1: forget not a single Republican voter for this. Uh. It's
Speaker 1: the screen cap of his UH bank account, and like,
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people just retweeted it based
Speaker 1: on the message, But it's like thirty only fans transactions
Speaker 1: where he's tipping women eighteen hundred dollars and three dollars
Speaker 1: and multiple times sixty nine sixty nine uh. And and
Speaker 1: then it's the four four UH stimulus that he has
Speaker 1: circles but just so dumb, Nat tweeted, people are too
Speaker 1: capital about the fact that parrots can talk I, which
Speaker 1: I agree with. And then Adam nam in uh for
Speaker 1: all the parents out there, tweeted, the shining remains a
Speaker 1: hugely empathetic portrait of a guy trying to get some
Speaker 1: work done with a child around. You can find me
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