Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season one, seventy six,
Speaker 1: Episode four of Jo da Zei Geiceter production of I
Speaker 1: Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take a
Speaker 1: deep dot into America's share consciousness. It is Thursday, March one.
Speaker 1: My name is Jack O'Brien a K. I don't know much,
Speaker 1: but I know I love dude yellow red and Baha
Speaker 1: blast is blue. That's courtesy if Katie didn't at Katie
Speaker 1: did dent uh And I'm thrilled to be joined as
Speaker 1: always by my co host, Mr Miles Gray. Miles Gray
Speaker 1: a k grand washed sparking a k A. Mr Gray
Speaker 1: goes to Washington. Was that Philly is busting out with
Speaker 1: weed from that blunt. So thank you so much to
Speaker 1: Rob Cunningham and Johnny Davis. Wait, I didn't get that
Speaker 1: last one. I've actually never seen. Mr Smith is to
Speaker 1: watching them because the filibuster Philly busting, because that really busting,
Speaker 1: you know, the Philly you know, spark of Philly blunt. Okay, anyway,
Speaker 1: come on, Jack, you was enough nineties of a golden
Speaker 1: there in New York hip hop. You know what I'm
Speaker 1: talking about. I was gonna say, Joe Biden is all Phila,
Speaker 1: no killer, you know what I'm saying, because he's not
Speaker 1: killing the filibuster. Uh, definitely not. That was maybe a
Speaker 1: pun that I had saved for later, but it was.
Speaker 1: It's the best thing I've got, probably the best thing
Speaker 1: I've done in the past couple of weeks. So I
Speaker 1: figured I'd just blow it right up top. Uh. One
Speaker 1: of the first things I learned doing improv when I
Speaker 1: went to UCB is don't think of a joke to
Speaker 1: come in on. Don't do it. I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: I don't. I thought that worked really well. I thought
Speaker 1: that worked really well. Uh. Well, we are thrilled to
Speaker 1: be joined in our third seat by someone who knows
Speaker 1: a little something about that. Uh that improving. Uh. He
Speaker 1: is the hilarious, the talented Mr Charlie Sanders. Hey man,
Speaker 1: what's up. Nice to be here, great to have. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's the only reciprocity. After I came on to talk
Speaker 1: to you and Brian on bald talk bron my bald
Speaker 1: headed brothren, and was so bald, I was spelling some
Speaker 1: bald gossip bald bald earlier before. Maybe we'll see if
Speaker 1: it happens, then we'll come back and say, yeah, bald
Speaker 1: talk on our sister network are like imprint, big money players. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's it's actually like male vanity and like how how
Speaker 1: much thought men put into it and don't acknowledge about
Speaker 1: vanity A Like I've always thought that's like one of
Speaker 1: the most interesting subjects for like that that is just unexplored.
Speaker 1: And then you guys came along with one of my
Speaker 1: favorite pitches for a podcast. Thank you all. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: glad you like it. Yeah, it's funny, it's we I
Speaker 1: did not at all plan for it to be a
Speaker 1: deep dive into male vanity. It just kind of became that.
Speaker 1: But right, I'm glad that it's fun Like, it's interesting
Speaker 1: and people just talk about much like fucking Lance Reddick
Speaker 1: and Ship. He was great. Oh my god, I love
Speaker 1: talking to Lance. Yeah he was amazing. Yeah. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: also many seasons writer on kem Peel one of the
Speaker 1: one of the all time great Yes, yes, all five
Speaker 1: seasons of m Peele's amazing. Yeah. See this this show.
Speaker 1: We're not see too much talent today. It's a it's
Speaker 1: a podcast. I don't want to throw off the dynamic,
Speaker 1: but I don't usually mention people's credits up top but
Speaker 1: that that one needs to be mentioned. KEM Peel right
Speaker 1: on M Peel was the greatest job of all time.
Speaker 1: It was uh, pure fucking joy. When they when they
Speaker 1: decided to end it, I was like, are you guys
Speaker 1: sure you want to go on to become pretty miss?
Speaker 1: Can you please just keep or at least just keep
Speaker 1: paying me to write sketches. We can just do digital stuff, yeah,
Speaker 1: digital time. I've like. I was also very disappointed to
Speaker 1: hear that Jordan Peele was going to stop acting because
Speaker 1: I've always said that like some of his performances on
Speaker 1: Key and Peel are like some of my favorite comedic
Speaker 1: He's just like so subtle and detailed in his performances. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I guess he's good at directing too. I guess yeah,
Speaker 1: he's okay. I mean yeah, I think you know, we
Speaker 1: all know where, we all know where the skill is.
Speaker 1: That he'll be back doing sketch comedy no time. Oh
Speaker 1: I hope I'll be like, come off and jam it's
Speaker 1: funny like you guys were mentioning UCB earlier. Like everyone
Speaker 1: I've written on sketch shows with it is always like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm so ready to move on from sketch writing sketches
Speaker 1: and write sitcoms or movies or whatever. I'm like, I
Speaker 1: could write sketches for the rest of my life. I
Speaker 1: never get fucking bored of it. Well, you guys were
Speaker 1: so good at it, but I feel like that show
Speaker 1: perfect or it all right, Charlie, We're going to get
Speaker 1: to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
Speaker 1: we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of the things
Speaker 1: we're talking about. Uh, we're gonna talk about how Joe
Speaker 1: has gone back on killing the filibuster. Uh. The thing
Speaker 1: that I fourth like, was he gonna anyway? Yeah? It's like,
Speaker 1: where are where are we? Where are we? Who are we? Joe?
Speaker 1: Where are we? Where's my apple sauce? Well? Are you
Speaker 1: using jokes from seapack? From sepack? Are we? Where am I?
Speaker 1: Where's my apple sauce? What was it? Crisscross? Where's my
Speaker 1: apple sauce? Or something? Yeah, it was something like that. Uh,
Speaker 1: I mean, who know? It was who's the boss? Where's
Speaker 1: my apples? Who really running the bit? Charlie? And that's
Speaker 1: something you you know, uh, Ke and Peel. Some of
Speaker 1: our favorite comedy writing also spack some of our favorite
Speaker 1: uh Biden, the Biden administration. Uh, let a handful of
Speaker 1: staffers go for ever having smoked weed. I think is
Speaker 1: basically the and I just want to talk about that
Speaker 1: that standard. I want to talk about this. Uh. Saudi
Speaker 1: official who threatened to kill a UN investigator of the
Speaker 1: Hishog death in a meeting with the u N was like, hey,
Speaker 1: you might want to call them off because I might
Speaker 1: have them killed because could be We'll take care of it,
Speaker 1: all right, Yeah yeah, yeah, very sopranos. Yeah yeah, even
Speaker 1: said it was like a Jersey accent, which. Uh. We'll
Speaker 1: talk about facial recognition technology at Disney World World talk
Speaker 1: about what yeah maybe I mean fine, yeah, it's approving
Speaker 1: ground for carcerl technology. Sure, we'll talk about the toxic
Speaker 1: the newest flavor of toxic masculinity which doesn't allow you
Speaker 1: to get the vaccine. Uh, and maybe some self care,
Speaker 1: maybe throw some self care in there. All of that
Speaker 1: plenty more. But first, Charlie, we like to ask our guest,
Speaker 1: what is something from your search history that is revealing
Speaker 1: about who you are? My search history? Um, speaking of Sopranos,
Speaker 1: it's uh, the latest thing was a Sopranos clip. Okay, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we love we love the boys from Satrial's over. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, they're the best. I was gonna ask you
Speaker 1: that you've mentioned up someone named Katie diddn't Katie didn't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that is a d I D dash d e n
Speaker 1: T or something like that. It's a d I D
Speaker 1: d e n T. Yeah, yeah, that is that a
Speaker 1: Sopranos reference, because that's what Christopher says when he shows
Speaker 1: up on Heroin to help I did. He says, you
Speaker 1: shut up or whatever, and he goes, I did didn't.
Speaker 1: I thought it was a reference to Katie did the
Speaker 1: what is that bug? But probably all Milane sketch in Chicago.
Speaker 1: Here you go. Yes, it's funny how much that is
Speaker 1: a line that is so simple, it's just merely mispronouncing
Speaker 1: the word didn't and is like part of like meme
Speaker 1: Internet war. Like even my partner, her Majesty, who I
Speaker 1: got watching the Sopranos. She remember, she like she hooked
Speaker 1: onto that line, like right away. She's like, I said
Speaker 1: some off handling. She's like, I did didn't, And I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's amazing. Over here, Well, Michael Imperioli is such a
Speaker 1: good actor that those two words that he's turned into
Speaker 1: three words conveyed so much must have crawled under there
Speaker 1: for warm. Oh I love one of my favorite scenes
Speaker 1: I were from The Sopranos as Christophers intervention. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: with Elias Codius as the intervention interventionist that he recognizes
Speaker 1: from the Yeah, that's right, didn't you steal those? He's
Speaker 1: like I did, but that was a long time ago.
Speaker 1: Oh that, And then I was it's um with his
Speaker 1: face Silvio's letter that he reads to christ where he's like,
Speaker 1: I came into yet toilet, water in your hair, disgusting.
Speaker 1: That's this whole I thought, I said, my piece, Christie,
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Uh, which is also you know the
Speaker 1: o G like fashionable toxic masculinity anthem. The Sopranos. You
Speaker 1: know that's a show, yeah, totally speaking of which one
Speaker 1: of the great comedies of all time. It actually is.
Speaker 1: It's very and dramatic. It's somehow gotten funnier. I don't
Speaker 1: I don't know. It might have just been where my
Speaker 1: head was at at the time. And also, like anytime
Speaker 1: there's a show that has like a dramatic tension, you're
Speaker 1: kind of focused on, like what's going to happen next. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and the first time I watched it, yeah, rewatching it's
Speaker 1: so so fucking funny. Yeah, definitely. What is something you
Speaker 1: think is overrated? Sir? Oh the Q documentary? Okay? Oh
Speaker 1: the one on HBO Max. Yeah, Into the Rabbit Hole
Speaker 1: or Down the Rabbit Holes not it's it just doesn't
Speaker 1: really like go into Q that much. It like follows
Speaker 1: all these weird people that are into Q, but it's
Speaker 1: more like social tourism into these like really weird people's lives,
Speaker 1: and so, I mean, I get why other people might
Speaker 1: like it, but for me, I was more like I
Speaker 1: wanted more like information because I'm like, right, what the
Speaker 1: fuck is it? How does it happen? Um? Maybe that
Speaker 1: will eventually happen, But in the first two episodes, I
Speaker 1: kind of felt like I wanted more information. Right, it's
Speaker 1: like a New York Times piece normalizing Q conspiracy theory.
Speaker 1: That's kind of what it feels like, honestly, right, That's
Speaker 1: what I feel like. That Like, what I saw from
Speaker 1: the trailer was like, are they really gonna figure something
Speaker 1: out here? Are they just gonna be like you check
Speaker 1: these people out on it? It's the latter it's like right,
Speaker 1: these weirdos, and I'm like, you know, of course I
Speaker 1: think Q is extremely disturbing and horrible, but like I
Speaker 1: also like felt kind of bad, like, oh, are we
Speaker 1: just like mocking people that are so lost in the
Speaker 1: world that they we aren't I mean the documentary. But yeah,
Speaker 1: so anyway, that was that's my overrated check out the
Speaker 1: podcast Q and On Anonymous really like yeah, if you like,
Speaker 1: if you want to like get into it. The fellows
Speaker 1: over there, bring the heat on that check it out
Speaker 1: because it's like, you know, I know that, like they
Speaker 1: believe these crazy conspiracy theories. It's uff like that. But
Speaker 1: I'm still like, what is it? I don't totally understand
Speaker 1: what if this led to me becoming a Q and
Speaker 1: on perfect like to find out? Miles recommended the Q
Speaker 1: and On podcast, and I think we have a show
Speaker 1: on our very network from Jake Hanrahan former guest on TDZ,
Speaker 1: called Q Clearance that is actually like focused on the Q,
Speaker 1: like who is Q like that question, answering that question
Speaker 1: and figures it out, which I think a handful of
Speaker 1: people have figured it out. Yeah, it's one of the
Speaker 1: guys who runs the board that you first emerged on oh,
Speaker 1: I think I did hear that on the daily Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it like it's started possibly as somebody else, but
Speaker 1: then they like kind of hijack the account because they
Speaker 1: had all the permissions, and it just makes sense that
Speaker 1: like that much power, like and then there's an opportunity
Speaker 1: for somebody who has control over Yeah, you know, even
Speaker 1: within the Q community, they're gonna be like O g
Speaker 1: Q truthers, you know what I mean, Like, no, that's
Speaker 1: not cute really, but you're you're huffing adren of chrome
Speaker 1: on this. Yeah, what is something you think is underrated? Sir? Oh,
Speaker 1: I forget if I said this last time when me
Speaker 1: and Husky run, so I might maybe repeating myself. But
Speaker 1: the it's not it's not underrated in the world, but
Speaker 1: it's underrated in the U. S A. Which is the
Speaker 1: sitcom Gavin and Stacy. M hmm do you guys James Gordon, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's Oh, it's great. You should watch it. It's like
Speaker 1: one of the funniest shows I've ever seen. Its like
Speaker 1: it's like, you know how during the pandemic you have
Speaker 1: those things where you're like that got me through the pandemic.
Speaker 1: I've like I've watched Gavin and Stacey all the way
Speaker 1: through three times this year just because it's like it's like,
Speaker 1: it's funny and it's just I escape. So I've watched
Speaker 1: it three times through in a year and it's on
Speaker 1: HBO Max. It looks like, oh is it really Yeah?
Speaker 1: Where are you been watching it? Britt Box that is
Speaker 1: britt Box is uhum a streaming service that has British
Speaker 1: sitcoms on it appropriately And are you ingesting a lot
Speaker 1: of you? Kind of an Anglo file when it comes
Speaker 1: to comedy. Uh yeah, quite a bit. You know. I
Speaker 1: love the Office and extras and all the Britishers stuff
Speaker 1: and Kevin and Stacy and then um, those are the
Speaker 1: those are the main ones I like. But I'm kind
Speaker 1: of an Anglo file in general. Yeah, the same as well.
Speaker 1: And I love Carl Pilkington. I don't know who that
Speaker 1: is actually, you know, he was like, did you ever
Speaker 1: see the Ricky Gervais show that was on HBO that
Speaker 1: was animating the radio show he had that I have
Speaker 1: not seen. So it just started off with the he
Speaker 1: just got so just interested in the producer of the
Speaker 1: at the radio station, This guy Carl Pilkington, who was
Speaker 1: just this, like I think he's from Manchester, just a
Speaker 1: very like simple guy who just comes straight at you
Speaker 1: with his take on something, no matter where he's coming from,
Speaker 1: no matter how it informed it is. He has like
Speaker 1: the confidence of a thousand sons, and it just cracks
Speaker 1: Ricky and like Stephen Merchant up constantly. So they started
Speaker 1: animating like what he would talk about and like, and
Speaker 1: then it became that show Idiot Abroad where they were
Speaker 1: basically Ricky and Stephen were sending Carl to like any
Speaker 1: number of countries because he was such a closed off
Speaker 1: guy there, like he's gonna fucking freak out, and and
Speaker 1: they send him there and they're just kind of like
Speaker 1: watching him do his thing. Oh that's funny, Okay, I
Speaker 1: gotta check that out. Their radio show is I don't know.
Speaker 1: I found it like when I was first getting into podcasts,
Speaker 1: Like there was such little podcast like so little podcasts
Speaker 1: out there, but like that was one of the things
Speaker 1: that you could I was just like on a forum
Speaker 1: and found it and downloaded that That radio show is
Speaker 1: really good. Yeah, I got to Yeah. I was like
Speaker 1: that and Mark Marin were like the two podcasts. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: what's that Mark Maron got up to these days, I
Speaker 1: don't know, we still doing WF. I remember when he
Speaker 1: sold that house and it became like a fucking tourist
Speaker 1: attraction and right, I went to the garage. Yeah he
Speaker 1: uh he popularized Thailand Park. Yeah. Right, we can thank
Speaker 1: Mark Marrin for Jin Traffang Island Park single handedly. Right,
Speaker 1: that's a strong that's a strong claim. Not many of
Speaker 1: people can make any city like it. And I'm always
Speaker 1: like that pizza place on the corner. So Gavin and
Speaker 1: Stacy is that? Like, what what's the premise? Just like
Speaker 1: Broad Pitch um, So James Cordon and I and and
Speaker 1: Ruth Jones are like the secondary characters. This is sort
Speaker 1: of the trippy element of it, but they're kind of
Speaker 1: the main character. So Gavin and Stacy, Um, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: blanking on the actor's name at the moment that plays
Speaker 1: Gavin and the actor that plays Stacy. She's Welsh and
Speaker 1: he's English, and they've met through work over the phone,
Speaker 1: but they've never met in person, but they've fallen in
Speaker 1: love over the phone. And so they go to meet
Speaker 1: each other for the first time in London and he
Speaker 1: brings his best budd James James Cordon uh along and
Speaker 1: she brings her best bud, Ruth Jones along, and then
Speaker 1: but then uh, we end up following the story of
Speaker 1: Ruth Jones and James Cordon kind of like falling in love.
Speaker 1: Oh interesting, But the comedy has really comes from like
Speaker 1: their families all meet, so it's like Welsh people in
Speaker 1: English people mingling and just getting they like get hammered
Speaker 1: and have parties and it's just kind of full of
Speaker 1: like fun great lines and stuff. I'm a I'm a
Speaker 1: big nodding hill head, big nodding hill apologists. And that
Speaker 1: isn't there like a moish English dynamic there? Camera. I
Speaker 1: saw it in the in the theater I came out,
Speaker 1: so I can't remember, but I love the neighborhood. I've
Speaker 1: been there several times. I haven't seen it in like
Speaker 1: a decade. I just remember really loving it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I like that movie. Alright, let's take a quick break.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back and talk about some news. And
Speaker 1: we're back. Uh. And we've been following sort of from
Speaker 1: a distance, the will they won't they of whether Joe
Speaker 1: Biden is willing to funk with the filibuster um and
Speaker 1: it seems like he is back on the no filibuster
Speaker 1: killing train or whatever it is. It is it it's
Speaker 1: it's we want to change it, we want to amend it.
Speaker 1: Maybe we don't that the yes, um, you know we
Speaker 1: he said he was open to amend it, and now
Speaker 1: he is, I think flying this like bipartisan weather balloon,
Speaker 1: just to see how many people will come around to
Speaker 1: this like sweeping voting reform bill. And the goal, I
Speaker 1: guess it is being like trying to get Senators to
Speaker 1: work with Republicans and to get them on board. But
Speaker 1: we all know that is fucking useless given that they're
Speaker 1: just entirely in an obstructionist party, and also the voter
Speaker 1: reforms that they're proposing. That's like, you know, trying to
Speaker 1: get the snails to support a new mass salt dropping
Speaker 1: program across the nation. It's the bill is an existential
Speaker 1: threat to them, so fuck them. Just keep it moving, Joe.
Speaker 1: So this is either Joe going you know, full centrist
Speaker 1: at the expense of the country's future and trying to
Speaker 1: like shore up our voting laws to keep voter suppression
Speaker 1: at bay, or he's trying to triangulate and create pressure
Speaker 1: on the GOP before fully going you know, scorched earth.
Speaker 1: But I don't think that's gonna happen. Think it's probably
Speaker 1: somewhere in the middle um because he knows the GOP
Speaker 1: is bullshit, But he also isn't willing to go fully
Speaker 1: like on switch it to progress mode either. So I
Speaker 1: think they're like, so the plan so far we've heard
Speaker 1: that they're the Democrats planned that they are saying out
Speaker 1: loud is Democrats say the strategy is too fold quote,
Speaker 1: it will make Republicans go on the record in opposition
Speaker 1: and could demonstrate to Democrats wary of reforming the legislative filibuster,
Speaker 1: that much of their agenda will be stuck in limbo
Speaker 1: without reforms. And that is that's the idea that they
Speaker 1: would just bring back the them having to filibuster like physically,
Speaker 1: is that if they amended right, they could have a
Speaker 1: talking filibuster, or they could just say we're not We're
Speaker 1: going to go just straight majority vote here. That idea, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it needs to be the majority vote because
Speaker 1: the like amending it to just make them uh physically
Speaker 1: do it relies on them having shame. Yeah, like they're
Speaker 1: not gonna like that. I mean they will do that gladly,
Speaker 1: and you know that it's not like they're It just
Speaker 1: seems to rely on this type of big d Democrat
Speaker 1: thinking that like will shame the Republican gets into acting correctly.
Speaker 1: You can shame the dog into not shipping on the
Speaker 1: carpet anymore. Dog doesn't know shame you're talking about. Put
Speaker 1: it outside, Miles, bipartisan weather balloon was your herald team, right, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: It was actually composite sketch and the logo was every
Speaker 1: member's face and one in one fucking form um. No,
Speaker 1: like you know this whole thing the way they said,
Speaker 1: it's even working now. Just look at fucking gun control. Right,
Speaker 1: Nearly of the country is in favor of universal background checks,
Speaker 1: ninety percent of the country. That that number includes Republicans.
Speaker 1: Yet the GOP and Democrats are acting like their careers
Speaker 1: will will end for I don't know, protecting people in
Speaker 1: the country. Chris Murphy from Connecticut, who had a turning
Speaker 1: point after Sandy hook like in terms of gun control,
Speaker 1: he's he's really vocal about quote, if a measure that
Speaker 1: has public support and can't pass the Senate just because
Speaker 1: of our rules and not because it doesn't hurt the
Speaker 1: majority of support in the Senate, then something's really wrong here.
Speaker 1: Democracy dies when things that have the majority of support
Speaker 1: in Congress, the support of the president, and public support
Speaker 1: can't become a lot, right what so how is that? So?
Speaker 1: What's going on? And I think you know meanwhile, broat
Speaker 1: face killer Mitch McConnell is pump baking again saying he's
Speaker 1: gonna go read Nuclear Winter Soldier. And for everybody you
Speaker 1: don't you don't want any Look, we we get it.
Speaker 1: We've seen what happens when you have all the chambers
Speaker 1: wrapped up and you go for ship that is so
Speaker 1: wildly unpopular, you end up pulling back because you're like,
Speaker 1: there's no way people are going to be on board
Speaker 1: really with all this ship. So it's a bunch of
Speaker 1: fucking nonsense. And you have Senator Thune lamenting that the
Speaker 1: whole I think argument from these constitutionalist type, you know,
Speaker 1: conservatives who are trying to make this argument about the Constitution,
Speaker 1: about being like the sixty will threshold prevents the majority
Speaker 1: from trampling all over the minority. But even without the filibuster,
Speaker 1: the Senate still preserves minority rule. When you just do
Speaker 1: some back of the Napkin math, right in terms of
Speaker 1: like representation, like yeah, the fact that they now that
Speaker 1: Wyoming has as much power as California, right like, right
Speaker 1: now fifty like even beyond that, fifty Senate Democrats represent
Speaker 1: roughly sixty one percent of the country's population. The fifty
Speaker 1: Senate Republicans represent just about forty nine percent of the population.
Speaker 1: And the reason is not adding up to a hundreds
Speaker 1: because some states have split, like they have a senator
Speaker 1: from each party, So don't don't That's why it's adding
Speaker 1: up to one ten. I wasn't just tract your math, man,
Speaker 1: I can't subtract two minutes so from and even when
Speaker 1: you put Mansion with the Republicans, right like, even even there,
Speaker 1: if there was no filibuster free, if there was no
Speaker 1: filibuster in the Senate, they could still use a simple
Speaker 1: majority vote to stop anything, right you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: They could get Mantion, they could court a vulnerable Democrat
Speaker 1: and boom, You've still managed to as a forty nine
Speaker 1: percent share of the country pushed back against the sixty
Speaker 1: share with a simple majority vote. So I'm I'm failing
Speaker 1: to even understand this thing of like it's gonna stem
Speaker 1: the tide of of of just how imbalanced everything is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it seems like there were two kind of possibilities with
Speaker 1: Biden heading in. There was the he's going to try
Speaker 1: to negotiate with the terrorists, uh and triangulate like Obama
Speaker 1: because he's an old school politician. But then there's also
Speaker 1: the fact that he lived through Obama just having his
Speaker 1: entire presidency paralyzed by trying to do that, and like
Speaker 1: you you would just think that like that would teach
Speaker 1: him that like that, you know, after Sandy Hook, they
Speaker 1: weren't able to get gun control past, even though it was,
Speaker 1: you know, supported by the vast majority of the country. Like,
Speaker 1: this isn't new, and he has been the vice president
Speaker 1: while it was happening before, Like what, it really seems
Speaker 1: like he should be ready to move on this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it must be bizarre to have been vice president for
Speaker 1: eight years, then taken four years off, and then become president. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: for sure. You know, just so apecially those four years
Speaker 1: or the worst fucking four years than have ever happened.
Speaker 1: I feel, I swear to God, I got anxiety disorder
Speaker 1: from those four years. Oh yeah, I think it's like
Speaker 1: You're like a good comedian and a terrible open micro before.
Speaker 1: You know, like, I'm gonna crush this though the bar
Speaker 1: so fucking low right now. I say one one setup punchline,
Speaker 1: structured joke, and people, I think I'm suing prior. But
Speaker 1: it's like the way slow walking this ship is like
Speaker 1: a parent that's not willing to fucking punish their child
Speaker 1: for bad behavior. Like you keep threatening the punishment. You're like,
Speaker 1: if I do, you won't have toys, and I'll turn
Speaker 1: I will, I will, and you know, and they don't
Speaker 1: give a funk there, like I don't fuck toys, mom,
Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck. And then the parents like
Speaker 1: what do I do next? You gotta bribe them with chocolate?
Speaker 1: I think is fuck it? Yeah tried. They're like, you know,
Speaker 1: they I'm kind of coming around to this voting thing
Speaker 1: after they dropped off that big Hershey, bart my, well,
Speaker 1: let's talk about something that Biden is focused on and
Speaker 1: ready to move on, and that is uh, firing people
Speaker 1: who have ever smoked wheat. You know, farb it for
Speaker 1: me to worry about. You know, a handful of Ivy
Speaker 1: League kids who are going to have to go work
Speaker 1: in the marketing industry instead of the Biden administration for
Speaker 1: a couple of months. But like, when you consider how
Speaker 1: how many like people within like politics, probably within this
Speaker 1: administration have blacked out before, let's say, and then they're
Speaker 1: going to fire like fucking Nixon was blacked out drunk
Speaker 1: and bragging about how he could launch a nuke towards
Speaker 1: the end of his presidency. And they're gonna fire someone
Speaker 1: for having smoked pot legally in the past. That feels like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, yeah, it just it just feels like
Speaker 1: a very like specific place to be coming from, like
Speaker 1: that is decades ago. Yeah, Joe, who are you make
Speaker 1: a bad confession for the dailies being a daily side
Speaker 1: guid guest. But as of January twenty, I have not
Speaker 1: looked at the news since because I was like, I've
Speaker 1: been glued to the news for four years and I
Speaker 1: need some time off from it. So I actually didn't
Speaker 1: even know about this weed firing thing until right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it had it kind of became a story over the weekend.
Speaker 1: They were like, yeah, we let go of like a
Speaker 1: small number of people and they had other issues, so
Speaker 1: it's not like they still wanted to be uh, they
Speaker 1: wanted credit for having a more liberal policy than previous administrations,
Speaker 1: but it's still like yeah, but it's it's legal now.
Speaker 1: And also even the Pod Save America Tommy V tours,
Speaker 1: like this is absurd in that that's part of a
Speaker 1: security clearance background check. Like what the I don't know
Speaker 1: that guy is famously a big pod head. Yeah, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: we we see Tommy at all the dispensaries around now
Speaker 1: smoking like a chimney. Yeah, but yeah, I don't know
Speaker 1: what the funk he thinks this is going to prevent
Speaker 1: or how this makes his like his cabinet or administration
Speaker 1: function better, or like if he's just so hopped up
Speaker 1: on this, like you know, cause I remember when Joe
Speaker 1: Biden was a child, they were saying the Negro and
Speaker 1: the Mexican become lustful for the white woman smoking the
Speaker 1: devil's weed. And he's like, I don't want that corn pop.
Speaker 1: I'll push back on corn pop if he's puffing that.
Speaker 1: We also, I believe your vice president was on the
Speaker 1: fucking Breakfast Club or somewhere laughing it up about how
Speaker 1: she's like I'm Jamaican, my family's Jamaican. I think if
Speaker 1: I've smoked weed. I mean, I'd be worried that he
Speaker 1: was going to have to do something there if I
Speaker 1: believe remotely that she was telling the truth. But she
Speaker 1: did not come across as somebody who So you think
Speaker 1: you smoke more weed than Kamala Harris? Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: oh four yeah. I just need to ask three questions,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, what's your favorite movie to
Speaker 1: watch high? Was your favorite thing to drink high? What's
Speaker 1: your favorite snack to eat high? And she's like, uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know some question Willy Wonka. Uh, but I
Speaker 1: personally don't think you should be allowed to have that
Speaker 1: much power if you've never done drugs, Like your brain
Speaker 1: isn't ready, Like look at look at Hitler, look at Trump.
Speaker 1: The things that they had in common was that like
Speaker 1: they didn't drink, didn't were very anti drugs until they
Speaker 1: started using basically cocaine via prescription when Hitler was love
Speaker 1: in the math though, but it was all it was
Speaker 1: all subscribed or prescribed via doctor. Yeah, using opiates to
Speaker 1: you know, keep the ver mocked. Meth is one of
Speaker 1: those things like I think psychedelics, like think even we
Speaker 1: like gets you outside of like your narrow perspective of
Speaker 1: like how and like kind of at least alters your
Speaker 1: relationship to your own ego and like self perception, and
Speaker 1: like that's incredibly important perspective for somebody to have if
Speaker 1: they're going to make huge life or death decisions for
Speaker 1: vast swaths of the human race. And yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: it's funny though, you could probably I think Charlemagne could
Speaker 1: have tricked Joe Biden admitting he smoked mad weed, because
Speaker 1: Joe Biden just seems like those opportunistic common ground makers
Speaker 1: out of thin air. Oh yeah, man, he's like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: me and uh Dorio we used to hang out and
Speaker 1: he would bring these cigars over and they had they
Speaker 1: smelled different, I'll tell you that. And then he'd put
Speaker 1: some sunny rawlins on and we would It was a party.
Speaker 1: Back when I smoked, it was called grass, and it
Speaker 1: wasn't as strong as this stuff today. That's why. And
Speaker 1: that's the reason, because this stuff, I don't know what's
Speaker 1: going on. I forget what day it is. And without
Speaker 1: it anyways, this is some bullshit. Um again, not the
Speaker 1: not the number one concern. Was there any like did
Speaker 1: they have an actual statement as to why they felt
Speaker 1: it was important or like imperative that people who were
Speaker 1: working at administration have never smoked weed. No, it was
Speaker 1: basically like there were other issues that they like kept
Speaker 1: it vague. But then one of the people who was
Speaker 1: let go was like, they did not give me any
Speaker 1: specifics on like what it was why we were being
Speaker 1: let go. Um. And it wasn't just like five people.
Speaker 1: There were people who were fired. There were people who
Speaker 1: were placed on like this like work from home thing
Speaker 1: lest there um contact high like I couldn't start spreading
Speaker 1: across the administration. Yeah, yeah, so it's it's fun. It's
Speaker 1: just you know, they presumably like somebody was like worried
Speaker 1: that it was going to become a thing, um, and
Speaker 1: so they yeah, I mean this one just will also
Speaker 1: make for humane drug policy too. If this is how
Speaker 1: you're looking at ship, like, you're like, we'd get out
Speaker 1: of here. You failed human. Also, you want me to
Speaker 1: have compassion for drug charges? What is this? Um? All right,
Speaker 1: let's talk about facial recognition technology. You know, this is
Speaker 1: something that in America corporations are at the forefront of
Speaker 1: because corporations have all the power, like and so the
Speaker 1: leading the bleeding edge of facial recognition technology use is China,
Speaker 1: the People's Republican China is like has all of like
Speaker 1: every face in their population in a database and is
Speaker 1: able to attract people. And we see that they have
Speaker 1: concentrated active concentration camps. Uh happening in China, but in America,
Speaker 1: because we are a capitalist nation where you know, capital
Speaker 1: has all the power. Uh, corporations are kind of the
Speaker 1: main actors, and we're starting to see what that might
Speaker 1: look like in practice in Disney World. Yeah, we had
Speaker 1: a previous preview because Amazon was I think planning on
Speaker 1: opening these stores that have like cameras everywhere. You just
Speaker 1: pull things off the shelf and it like matches your
Speaker 1: face to your Amazon account and then you just walk out.
Speaker 1: You never have to never have to check out. They're like, oh,
Speaker 1: we know what you bought. Oh fuck off. So Disney
Speaker 1: has been doing a thing for a while with these
Speaker 1: U Magic bands, which are like livestrong bracelets, uh mixed
Speaker 1: with uh that collar that they put around your neck
Speaker 1: that makes your head explode if you leave the prison camp.
Speaker 1: In some nineties movie that I can't think of the
Speaker 1: name of, was that in um Well in Wild Wild West,
Speaker 1: they had some weird collars though. Two that way Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm through and then what's another one? Anyway, Look, there's
Speaker 1: there's plenty of there's plenty of booby trap best and
Speaker 1: in that real life robbery they also did that song.
Speaker 1: Yeah um, but that was like remote detonation. Anyways. Uh,
Speaker 1: they're different than the one in a swordfish from the
Speaker 1: olden So they're uh magic bands. They give them to
Speaker 1: you ahead of time and then you don't have to
Speaker 1: like swipe anything. You just like walk wherever you want
Speaker 1: and it tracks you and then like you know, it
Speaker 1: knows you're coming to the gates, so you don't even
Speaker 1: have to interact with somebody. You just walk through the
Speaker 1: gates and they're like, okay that he has the magic band.
Speaker 1: Were good. Um, And they're just basically planning on expanding
Speaker 1: that to facial recognition technology, which is more terrifying than
Speaker 1: like you might think at first. Um. One of the
Speaker 1: big issues is that they are staggering ly biased against
Speaker 1: people with darker skin people of color. They had facial
Speaker 1: recognition technolog G that was tested head air rates of
Speaker 1: up to thirty percent for dark skinned women, a rate
Speaker 1: nearly forty nine times that for white men forty nine times.
Speaker 1: So it's also based on my limited experience with my
Speaker 1: new face unlocking iPhone. It's biased against people who sleep
Speaker 1: on their face. Um, because when you wake up, but
Speaker 1: I can't my phone for like an hour after I
Speaker 1: wake up. What it has taken me all year of
Speaker 1: the pandemic. I cannot stop trying to use the face
Speaker 1: unlocked thing with a mask on, and it never recognises me.
Speaker 1: But still every time I do it, I hold my
Speaker 1: phone up to my Yeah, it's and it's a panic too.
Speaker 1: Have you ever trying to like pay like with your
Speaker 1: phone somewhere? Yeah, do I take my mask off for
Speaker 1: a second? A passcode? Passcode? Pass But you know, they're
Speaker 1: they're pointing out in this article and our writer Jam
Speaker 1: kind of put together a piece on this just saying,
Speaker 1: like we have we have precedent that corporations will share
Speaker 1: any surveillance technology they have access to with the police. Um.
Speaker 1: And you know, many police departments in the US, including
Speaker 1: New York, Chicago, Detroit, and Orlando, have begun using facial
Speaker 1: recognition technology. So it's and it's also like a little
Speaker 1: like a lot of people don't talk about the fact
Speaker 1: that Disney. Disney World is named after a man who
Speaker 1: was a secret FBI informant during the Red Scare, like
Speaker 1: until yeah, from four to sixties six, he served as
Speaker 1: a secret informer to the FBI. Uh and just like
Speaker 1: sold out writers, producers, directors, technicians, union activists that he
Speaker 1: suspected of political subversion and which I'm sure just meant like,
Speaker 1: you know, any sort of collap Yeah. Wait, hold on,
Speaker 1: they called me racist? Yeah no, no, call my boy
Speaker 1: real quick over here. You have the tam O shanter it,
Speaker 1: I'll give you everybody. Um. Yeah. And the Red Scare obviously,
Speaker 1: uh for our younger listeners ended up being bullshit, So
Speaker 1: don't uh. He was just selling people out because it
Speaker 1: was convenient for him. Um. And to be an informant
Speaker 1: for that long, you have to be giving a lot
Speaker 1: of names, right, like you they it's not like they're
Speaker 1: going to let you just skate without as just an
Speaker 1: honorary FBI informant like he was a top earner, right
Speaker 1: exactly what I mean, busy, go out there and crack
Speaker 1: some fucking skulls A good reference. I mean, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: we've talked about this every time. Any kind of algorithm
Speaker 1: is created based on like identifying any kind of person.
Speaker 1: Just the inbuilt racism is just unavoidable because at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, it's always flawed human beings trying
Speaker 1: to create a flawed algorithm. Yet there's still just like
Speaker 1: we're thinking about the future in which we can digitally
Speaker 1: oppress people of color. It's gonna be awesome. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: it's like if Minority Report, like you find out, Oh,
Speaker 1: those precugs are white supremacists. Oh, it wasn't a clever name.
Speaker 1: They were just going after minorities report. I thought it meant.
Speaker 1: I don't know what I thought. I don't know yet.
Speaker 1: I don't know why I thought that yet that makes sense, actually, right,
Speaker 1: that's the first thing I thought. All right, let's take
Speaker 1: another break and we'll be right back. And we're back,
Speaker 1: and Miles, I'm gonna let you read this title for
Speaker 1: your next section, which I truly appreciated. Strong men also die,
Speaker 1: or remember big Lebowski, Remember that he said. I think
Speaker 1: about that line probably more than any of the any
Speaker 1: of the dudes quotes. I think that of that. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: that also Brent being like that he gives of his
Speaker 1: wall of fame. But strong men cry is just yeah,
Speaker 1: it's top it's top shelf right there. Um. But yes,
Speaker 1: that you know, this is the case of the GOP men,
Speaker 1: who this is their battle cry um in that, according
Speaker 1: to this new poll said they will not get vaccine
Speaker 1: NATed and they don't care about getting the virus because
Speaker 1: funck that. Meanwhile, of male DEM voters said they are
Speaker 1: ready and willing as soon as they can to be
Speaker 1: vaccinated because they're they're acknowledging science. Um. But it's just
Speaker 1: like this again, it's about this idea of masks, whether
Speaker 1: it's masks or vaccines. I think we saw this first
Speaker 1: with masks and realizing that it was literally a toxic
Speaker 1: mask ulinity happening there where people are like, not fuck that,
Speaker 1: uh you know that that makes that means I'm weak.
Speaker 1: Therefore I'm not a man because I'll die of a
Speaker 1: preventable illness. Um. And even they're fucking godhead Donald Trump
Speaker 1: got vaccinated. So it's just like this weird thing where
Speaker 1: even if when you're the thing you're a fan of,
Speaker 1: even though they did it, he still can't over they
Speaker 1: like overcome this idea of what it means to be
Speaker 1: manly with a big capital M. Yeah, that's a disturbing Well,
Speaker 1: there's a story right now in The Lily, which is
Speaker 1: like a sort of offshoot of the Washington Post, that's
Speaker 1: talking about the struggle of like spouses of conservative men
Speaker 1: that are trying to get their partners to get fucking
Speaker 1: real about ship and get vaccinated. And it's like it
Speaker 1: spans the like the whole spectrum from you know, one
Speaker 1: person just being like my son or my my husband
Speaker 1: is a Jehovah's witness and he's a conservative, I'm a Democrat.
Speaker 1: We still find a way though. Um. But for whatever
Speaker 1: reason this one he's saying, it's whether it's religion or
Speaker 1: his like just idea of what his destiny is. Um,
Speaker 1: they just can't come around to it. Uh And oh yeah,
Speaker 1: just again a very easy thing that sociologists have observed
Speaker 1: saying that if a man had used his masculinity as
Speaker 1: central to his identity, steadies show he will be less
Speaker 1: likely to wear a mask. Would not be surprising that
Speaker 1: this would this pattern would hold over vaccinations and some
Speaker 1: some people like trying to bribe their partners to get vaccinated,
Speaker 1: like bribing them. Um, this one woman Granger's wife who
Speaker 1: also voted for Trump or in the family would be
Speaker 1: limited and where they could go on vacation. Granger's family
Speaker 1: usually travels to Disney World every year, he said, and
Speaker 1: she thought the park might require proof of vaccination. Granger's
Speaker 1: wife was also worried about her elderly father, who still
Speaker 1: had it received his vaccine. If Granger wasn't vaccinated, he
Speaker 1: recalls or saying he might put her dad at risk. Ultimately,
Speaker 1: Granger agreed to get vaccinated. We've been together since August.
Speaker 1: We've built up enough trust. We know each other well
Speaker 1: enough to know when something is really important to the other.
Speaker 1: Your fucking life. You're not dying. Uh, that's yeah, it's
Speaker 1: you know there there's like some physiological thing where testosphone
Speaker 1: is actually like a toxin where it's like it is
Speaker 1: actually in enough, like it's a poison to the body.
Speaker 1: And I feel like this is like the psychological like
Speaker 1: social version of that, where it's just like masculine da
Speaker 1: is trying to kill you. Like this version of masculinity
Speaker 1: is toxic and is like literally toxic more it's worse
Speaker 1: for you than heroin, Like you're you're like trying to
Speaker 1: kill yourself, right, just because getting getting vaccinated and living dude,
Speaker 1: that's like the most unmanly shift I've ever heard of. Bro,
Speaker 1: the big dogs they die prematurely, Like what the fuck?
Speaker 1: I like when you see a couple walking around in
Speaker 1: the girl has a mask? Does? And I see that
Speaker 1: all the time. Yeah, that's always my favorite. You see
Speaker 1: so much in l A though, too, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Like it really is, like I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: sure you see it everywhere. And I'm only saying that
Speaker 1: because I live here, so this is my one example
Speaker 1: of it. But like out on like hikes and ship hikes,
Speaker 1: that's right, I always see the mixed ideology couple. There's
Speaker 1: always gonna be one person. Not always, but there's no
Speaker 1: matter what. Some person is just on a different kind
Speaker 1: of program or has like the wildly offensive non mask
Speaker 1: mask that's like chain mesh. I feel like, I feel
Speaker 1: like the dudes that aren't wearing masks on those hikes
Speaker 1: always like because of course I'll have a mask on.
Speaker 1: They always like kind of stir me down, like I
Speaker 1: dare you to say something? Right, and what that's what
Speaker 1: they their their masks and yeah and it's around their neck.
Speaker 1: I mean I would you would just early on. I remember,
Speaker 1: like in May of last year, there were still people
Speaker 1: who were like weren't rocking masks, and it was like
Speaker 1: clear like that we're about to go through it, and
Speaker 1: I would just be like put a fucking mask on,
Speaker 1: like I would just be biking, buy or whatever. Some
Speaker 1: people would be like oh, like would actually cringe, and
Speaker 1: other people would are kind of the ones who want
Speaker 1: to smoke and like fuck yo, yeah, you're like alright, idiot.
Speaker 1: The loudest I heard, like the biggest fight I ever
Speaker 1: witnessed was a one in like flipping out on an
Speaker 1: older dude for asking her to put on a mask,
Speaker 1: like she like her The anger came from somebody who
Speaker 1: wasn't willing to put on a mask, which is just yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's very like that seems to be
Speaker 1: the pattern. And those like viral videos of people being
Speaker 1: dragged out of bed, bath and beyond is like they're
Speaker 1: they're complaint is that they were asked to put on
Speaker 1: a mask. Yeah, they get very very angry and then
Speaker 1: lose it, you know what I mean. Like no one's
Speaker 1: ever calm, No one's a calm anti masker. Everyone is
Speaker 1: just sort of like I need a I need like
Speaker 1: some kind of release valve to lose it in public.
Speaker 1: And the way I'm gonna I'll catalyze that interaction is
Speaker 1: by just not having a mask. And then I can
Speaker 1: scream because I'm actually unhappy about a myriad of other things.
Speaker 1: But no way, I just come in here to just
Speaker 1: yell at the manager because the yeah, I mean there,
Speaker 1: there's obviously like at some level they recognized that they're
Speaker 1: taking their life uh into their own hands, or you know,
Speaker 1: they're putting their life at risk by not wearing masks.
Speaker 1: So there's already some aspect of their personhood that is
Speaker 1: like untilt and like is not uh making rational decisions.
Speaker 1: So it makes sense that like, yeah, the that would
Speaker 1: coincide with people who are just like, what did you
Speaker 1: just say to me? Bro? I didn't say anything, man,
Speaker 1: I was just walking alone. Ask And it's probably the
Speaker 1: same day people get pumped up for like a big
Speaker 1: rivalry sports game. You know, you watched the clips of
Speaker 1: all the time the team fucking fucked up your your rivals,
Speaker 1: you know, in this case Tottenham Hotspur for me, who
Speaker 1: still is in our shadow. But you watch those clips
Speaker 1: and you get amped up, just like these anti mascaret
Speaker 1: people watch the I have a disability card videos and
Speaker 1: just pop into it just like that. They're like, I'm
Speaker 1: off this energy. I've just been watching all this YouTube
Speaker 1: and I'm looking ready for the same ship I've been watching.
Speaker 1: Because in that article they're saying the one through line
Speaker 1: was that there were many people, either partners or parents
Speaker 1: who were seemingly reasonable in their past, you know, in
Speaker 1: the before times, and then they have just just slowly
Speaker 1: succumbed to the steady stream of bullshit and misinformation they're
Speaker 1: getting off their phones that has completely warped them. Uh So,
Speaker 1: it's just like, that's so disturbing. I'm really glad that
Speaker 1: didn't happen in my relationship. Yeah, I came close. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you think about it, Charlie, you know, like if
Speaker 1: you think about how much oxygen you're not getting by
Speaker 1: when you have a mask on to count for something
Speaker 1: in the long run, you know what I mean. But
Speaker 1: I'm off it. I'm off. I'm off. Get the funk
Speaker 1: off my podcast. Uh if FOUCHI said to jump off
Speaker 1: a bridge, would you do it? And that was something
Speaker 1: I literally saw somebody. Uh no, but I'm not jumping
Speaker 1: off a bridge. So what the new tactic that I've
Speaker 1: seen is concern for the environment, trolling for anti maskers
Speaker 1: because you know, I I've had to keep some people
Speaker 1: on my Instagram, you know, because that's how I that's
Speaker 1: how I stay in touch with the earth. You know,
Speaker 1: some people who are like normally you'd probably just be
Speaker 1: like unfollowed for self care, follow for research and self harm.
Speaker 1: But you know, I like I see some of the
Speaker 1: takes coming on these people. And one was this this
Speaker 1: like captured debate between these two anti mask or activist women,
Speaker 1: and they're being like, you know, three, it's true, the
Speaker 1: pollution created by disposable masks is alarming, Like there's a
Speaker 1: ton of discarded masks and things like that, and that
Speaker 1: is something to talk about. But they're just purely relying
Speaker 1: on that fact, like it's destroying the earth and there's
Speaker 1: really no point. I mean, like you think about all
Speaker 1: the plastics that aren't gonna decreate. I mean at that point,
Speaker 1: like why are we wearing the masks to destroy the earth?
Speaker 1: The effort and you're like, what the fuck? It's a
Speaker 1: second ago, like you were saying, how fucking like renewables
Speaker 1: are fucked up? So leader recycling, right, all right, let's
Speaker 1: really briefly check in with another sort of side of
Speaker 1: the right wing coin UH, and that is UH friendliness
Speaker 1: to Saudi Arabia and specifically MBS. So a u N
Speaker 1: investigator recently was like leaving her position. She was the
Speaker 1: one who was in charge of investigating he show's murder
Speaker 1: and basically it was like, yeah, it looks like it
Speaker 1: looks like uh NBS totally approved that ship. But even
Speaker 1: like as she was first like asking questions, a high
Speaker 1: level meeting took place between Saudi officials and UN officials,
Speaker 1: so it was like an official meeting with the u N.
Speaker 1: Didn't get more official than that, and uh, they criticized
Speaker 1: her reporting, made up a conspiracy theory that she was
Speaker 1: being funded by Qatar, and then one of them said, uh,
Speaker 1: he's received calls from people who want to quote take
Speaker 1: care of her, and they everybody on the u S
Speaker 1: I was like wait what, I'm sorry, what did you
Speaker 1: just say? And everybody all the other Saudi officials were like,
Speaker 1: oh no, no, no, he didn't mean that. That was
Speaker 1: just like him saying what he's heard, but like he
Speaker 1: would never say that. Then all those officials left. The
Speaker 1: dude who had said it stayed back and was like, no,
Speaker 1: I meant what I said. You heard me, motherfucker's I
Speaker 1: will have her taken care of. And so she's still,
Speaker 1: you know, heroically what went forward with her investigation completed,
Speaker 1: It found out what everybody kind of suspected was true.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean, in fairness, that guy was the
Speaker 1: head of the hospitality bureau. First. This the country of
Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia. So I think when he said she will
Speaker 1: be taken care of, I think, oh, yes, she will
Speaker 1: be taken care of by all will be changed. Have
Speaker 1: you seen the four seasons is a prison in Yah? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Wild those are surprising, you know. Yeah, well, you know,
Speaker 1: our former president normalized saying something threatening and then and
Speaker 1: then having a bunch of defenders go, oh, he didn't
Speaker 1: mean it like that, right, and then him saying I
Speaker 1: did mean it like he did not what you heard.
Speaker 1: I did didn't what you heard. It's what you're hearing.
Speaker 1: And I'm saying this ship now, I'll do that ship.
Speaker 1: He did, didn't. We haven't talked about his upcoming social
Speaker 1: media platform really, Um yeah, yeah, I'm gonna quote Sopranos
Speaker 1: again and I don't know what that is. I don't
Speaker 1: And to be honest with you. I don't want to know.
Speaker 1: That's my favorite Sopranos quote is Christopher comes in and
Speaker 1: Tony's like, sit down, he wants to talk to him
Speaker 1: about Somebody goes, is this about the easter best easter basket?
Speaker 1: That's right? And then Tony goes, I don't know what
Speaker 1: that is. To be honest with you, I don't want
Speaker 1: to know. And then and you never find out, right,
Speaker 1: Like it's never mentioned again. But I think, yeah, with
Speaker 1: the revival of Pokemon cards, I just think of Pussy
Speaker 1: when he's like, you know about these Pokemon cards? All right,
Speaker 1: let's let's talk a little self care here. I find
Speaker 1: myself doing this. I think a lot of people are
Speaker 1: finding themselves, uh, not getting enough sleep, procrastinating, letting things
Speaker 1: kind of hang over your head, and then just like
Speaker 1: sitting on your phone in bed for hours but not
Speaker 1: knowing that's what's going on. I think a lot of
Speaker 1: us know. Just close your eyes. Is this you have
Speaker 1: you been in the darkness in your bed and the
Speaker 1: only light is the cell phone which is glowing on
Speaker 1: your face, and you're in bed being like, why am
Speaker 1: I still on Narco TikTok? It's been three hours and
Speaker 1: I'm laying down and what the fuck and you're just
Speaker 1: not going to sleep. There is a parent There is
Speaker 1: a word for this that was like a combination of
Speaker 1: two different studies, but they have now they've called it
Speaker 1: revenge bedtime procrastination. The revenge part comes out of a
Speaker 1: Chinese study, so like the way they were labeling it
Speaker 1: just sort of translates like that, but it it makes sense.
Speaker 1: But the way these experts are describing it, revenge bedtime procrastination,
Speaker 1: they say, is common in people who feel they don't
Speaker 1: have control over their time, such as those in high
Speaker 1: stress occupations or parents and things like that, and are
Speaker 1: looking for a way to regain some personal time, even
Speaker 1: if it means staying up late, because you're like funk,
Speaker 1: I'd have ship to do all day. Okay, the one
Speaker 1: thing I will do is again, I'll look at Narco
Speaker 1: TikTok and that will be Paul. I'll go to sleep.
Speaker 1: Um And it says when it quote it comes to
Speaker 1: the evening, they categorically refused to go to bed early
Speaker 1: at a time they nobile suit them best and enable
Speaker 1: them to get adequate, restorative sleep and feel better. Nevertheless,
Speaker 1: there is a sense of retaliation against life. So there's
Speaker 1: an idea of revenge to stay awake and do whatever
Speaker 1: fills their bucket, and that's that is um like the
Speaker 1: idea of filling your bucket. Actually, I found myself uh
Speaker 1: staying up to watch movies more over the past like month,
Speaker 1: and I do find myself like more refreshed than like
Speaker 1: having like having art like put into my brain is
Speaker 1: like actually energizes me more than uh just going to
Speaker 1: sleep an hour and a half earlier and not having that.
Speaker 1: I think sometimes so you're arguing on behalf of your
Speaker 1: revenge progression. Yeah wow, but but then that might not
Speaker 1: be it for you. If you're actually saying when I
Speaker 1: wake up restored, then I don't think you're suffering in
Speaker 1: that sense. Yeah. I just found myself like being very
Speaker 1: focused on like, Okay, I gotta get to sleep by
Speaker 1: this time. Uh. And and then you know, I started
Speaker 1: being a little bit more lax on that and just
Speaker 1: like making more of an effort to, uh once my
Speaker 1: kids were in bed, actually take the time to like
Speaker 1: watch something that was interesting to me or you know,
Speaker 1: fill that bucket up a little bit. And I think
Speaker 1: it's been overall good thing. I do have this eye
Speaker 1: twitch that you guys uh have probably noticed and one
Speaker 1: of my ears is bleeding. Yeah, and you've only been
Speaker 1: shaving half of your face. And I thought it was
Speaker 1: a style of thing, and now I'm just sort of like,
Speaker 1: it's pretty cool. Get yeah alongside beard toothpaste. And I
Speaker 1: was like, all right, Jack, I think the movie theory
Speaker 1: is working. The shade path is fully made up, right,
Speaker 1: you know. The thing they say is like if if
Speaker 1: you're a serial procrash inator or like the things the
Speaker 1: personality types that may affect is like you're you are
Speaker 1: a serial procrastinator, Um, that's me for sure, Or you
Speaker 1: have issues with self regulation, which they say, like are
Speaker 1: you know you have traits such as like impulsivity or
Speaker 1: being easily distracted. So if you haven't had the time
Speaker 1: to process all of your emotions throughout the day, you
Speaker 1: really just maybe using the end of the day to
Speaker 1: do that, and that sets off this thing of like
Speaker 1: I actually just need to have time to like process
Speaker 1: a lot of ship. But it's manifesting in the form
Speaker 1: of like just scrolling or whatever it is we do
Speaker 1: at the very end of the day that keeps us
Speaker 1: up forever. Yeah, So what do we do this is
Speaker 1: this is kind of tangential, but rather the movie thing
Speaker 1: I've been lately. I've been pretty I'm knocking on what here. Lately,
Speaker 1: I've been pretty good about going to bed at a
Speaker 1: reasonable time. But I've definitely have phases like what you're
Speaker 1: talking about. But I found that for a long time, um,
Speaker 1: during the pandemic especially, I would just like I would
Speaker 1: saying I watched Gavin and Stacey three times through. It's
Speaker 1: like I would just watch like the same shows over
Speaker 1: and over again, Like I'd watch Queer Eye again, and
Speaker 1: you know it's great. I love it. But I have
Speaker 1: found that when I watch like a screener instead and
Speaker 1: take in something new, I feel like I sleep better.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, right then kind of just looking at the
Speaker 1: same wallpaper again, Yeah yeah, like something about you. I
Speaker 1: guess it. Maybe it uses your brain a little more
Speaker 1: to have to take in the new information rather than
Speaker 1: the old. But just like jars something loose or something, yeah,
Speaker 1: something like that. Yeah, I love the My favorite aspect
Speaker 1: of this study is the idea of like one part
Speaker 1: of your personality taking revenge on another part of your personality,
Speaker 1: because I think that's I mean, that's so yeah, but
Speaker 1: it's also like there is a lot of psychological research
Speaker 1: that you know, says it is helpful to just think
Speaker 1: of yourself as having multiple people inside of you and
Speaker 1: they're not obviously like it's not like this one is
Speaker 1: named Jen and she is the one who's Oaks, but
Speaker 1: like just you know the wait, no, I want to
Speaker 1: do this, tell me more about also helped me deal
Speaker 1: with my anxiety. So there's like anxious Charlie, and then
Speaker 1: there's just like not anxious Charlie. Well, first you gotta
Speaker 1: shave half your face right exactly, and then you want
Speaker 1: you want anxious happy normal. Yeah, I've read it in
Speaker 1: the context of like addiction, and you know, people who
Speaker 1: are making decisions in the short term that they know
Speaker 1: are like harmful to the later version of themselves. And
Speaker 1: there's that ends up almost like branching off into two
Speaker 1: different versions of the self. Um. But uh, and then yes,
Speaker 1: you do have to shape like make one half of
Speaker 1: your face one of those people. Just let people know
Speaker 1: you literally contain multitudes where the most mismatched outfits. Yeah,
Speaker 1: half a button down and half a tank toup red
Speaker 1: sox was this guy Ron James. Yeah, Oh wow, good point. Um.
Speaker 1: But the a lot of the experts are saying, you know,
Speaker 1: the one of the best things in general, sleep procrastinator
Speaker 1: or not is to do something is the power down
Speaker 1: hour of breaking up the last hour of your day
Speaker 1: into three twenty minutes segments. The first twenty are dedicated
Speaker 1: to things that need to be done. If you have
Speaker 1: any loose ends, then need with some emails or whatever,
Speaker 1: you have twenty minutes to do any real ship get
Speaker 1: that done. The next twenty minutes for hygiene, so they say,
Speaker 1: such as a hot bath, just something to relax you
Speaker 1: just kind of probably bring your attention to your body
Speaker 1: again on some level. And then the final twenty minutes
Speaker 1: are for relaxation, so meditation, prayer, journaling, you know, whatever
Speaker 1: that is. Do something like that just to kind of
Speaker 1: bring your your energetic level down and be a little
Speaker 1: more inward. I define, I can't agree more with the
Speaker 1: hot shower bath thing. That's like my go to, UM,
Speaker 1: because it's just it whenever I have you know, we know,
Speaker 1: back when you used to travel for work and you'd
Speaker 1: be in an unfamiliar hotel room or something trouble sleeping
Speaker 1: and then you're thinking, like, shoot, I gotta be up
Speaker 1: in like six hours to do this other fun and
Speaker 1: then you did really wash these sheets, right, and then
Speaker 1: you're like fuck it, I'm sucking on them anyway. Um,
Speaker 1: then you take a hot shower just to really get that,
Speaker 1: just to really settle your body down, and then getting
Speaker 1: in bed. It makes it so much easier for me
Speaker 1: to sleep. So it's also like a bath cultures like
Speaker 1: like a Japan, Turkey, Finland, like those kind of places
Speaker 1: like baths at the end of the day are very normal,
Speaker 1: And I think there's another like inbuilt way to begin
Speaker 1: your relaxation. Mhm. I really like this, everything about this
Speaker 1: that especially like I do feel like the first the
Speaker 1: part that I when I'm thinking about like things like
Speaker 1: self care routines, I often will leave out the first step,
Speaker 1: which is take care of the things that are going
Speaker 1: to be like hanging over your head that is going
Speaker 1: to like take up so much energy, uh, and you're
Speaker 1: gonna like let it. You're just gonna give so much
Speaker 1: enter g two like that task, whereas you could just
Speaker 1: like knock it out. It's like an email that you'll
Speaker 1: knock out in five minutes, and also like limiting that
Speaker 1: to twenty minutes so you have twenty minutes get that
Speaker 1: ship done, and forget about it. Uh. That's the part
Speaker 1: that I always forget and then just let these like
Speaker 1: things that are hanging over my head and wake up
Speaker 1: being like, funk, I didn't write that email right now?
Speaker 1: Would be weird. If I write it at two thirty
Speaker 1: in the morning, I'll wait and then you're like a damn,
Speaker 1: But it's like the days already started and the first
Speaker 1: thing on my mind. But I've been having with sleep
Speaker 1: all the time is like waking up really early, like
Speaker 1: five thirty in the morning and being like fuck uh
Speaker 1: and then being like, I'm not gonna be able to
Speaker 1: fall back asleep. Should I just get up? And I'll
Speaker 1: be like, I'll think five minutes has gone by, and
Speaker 1: then I'll look at the clock and it's like nine
Speaker 1: and I fell back asleep and didn't know it right right? Right? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Getting this ship done is key. Though. You know, I
Speaker 1: tip to anybody when you have shipped that you have
Speaker 1: to do just I'm not joking this. It's the most
Speaker 1: like fucking overused tip. But write it down on a list.
Speaker 1: The act of crossing something off, even as being like
Speaker 1: right that email, it will lift a tremendous weight off
Speaker 1: of your subconscious if you know, even for the physical
Speaker 1: act of being like did that you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And and then you can make it easy. You've got
Speaker 1: three things like if you're doing these twenty minutes, like
Speaker 1: even just right out those three things that are on
Speaker 1: your mind that you do have to get done, just
Speaker 1: doing and go boom. Yeah, it's so much. It's powerful, baby,
Speaker 1: Get you a post it note. My to do list
Speaker 1: will have these like uh if I left them if
Speaker 1: I don't like think about it, they'll have like these
Speaker 1: very like vague, huge things that I need to get done,
Speaker 1: like on them exactly like a dress, relationship with father, okay,
Speaker 1: figuring that I'll probably knock that out tomorrow, a different
Speaker 1: version of me. We'll knock that out tomorrow. I have
Speaker 1: reckoning with childhood trauma of divorce as it relates to
Speaker 1: her problems with commitment. Knock that out in twenty minutes
Speaker 1: at the end of the our and reckon Alright, Well, Charlie,
Speaker 1: it's been such a pleasure having you. Man, Where can
Speaker 1: people find you? Follow you? Here? You all that good stuff? Um,
Speaker 1: you can listen to my podcast bald Talk, which is
Speaker 1: an I Heart Radio and the Big Money Players Network,
Speaker 1: and uh, we have an Instagram at bald Talk Pod
Speaker 1: and then you can find me at Charlie Sanders on Instagram.
Speaker 1: And is there a tweet or some of the work
Speaker 1: of social media you've been enjoying. Yeah, I feel it's
Speaker 1: about the Sopranos. Embarrassed. I've talked about it so much,
Speaker 1: but this is a tweet. I like, you guys know
Speaker 1: who Mark Harris is, don't. Oh, he's he's much of
Speaker 1: his Twitter is political, Um, so trigger warning about that,
Speaker 1: but it's uh, but he also is very funny, so
Speaker 1: like every like tweet he says something funny. So okay,
Speaker 1: that's when he's talking about a dream he had in
Speaker 1: my dream. Carmela Soprano and Rosalie Aprile have taken a
Speaker 1: shopping trip to Milan and are staying in the same
Speaker 1: hotel as Adam driver and lady got Carmela quote, do
Speaker 1: you think he's handsome? Very tall? Rosalie, she should use
Speaker 1: a real name? What is she ashamed? That's so? Isn't
Speaker 1: that hilarious? That's such a good line Sopranos line that
Speaker 1: was never in the Sopranos about Lady Gaga. Yeah, um yeah,
Speaker 1: you guy should check Mark Harrison. I think you'd like him.
Speaker 1: He's he's super funny. He's written some great books about
Speaker 1: film and stuff. Honestly, that sounds and I hate to nitpick,
Speaker 1: that feels more of like a Gabriella Dante line. Rosalie
Speaker 1: is a little more aggro and she's definitely smoking a cigarette.
Speaker 1: Or she would add something like what is she ashamed?
Speaker 1: Like being Italian isn't good? Is a Rosalie appeal line.
Speaker 1: Gabriella Dante is like what is she ashamed? Yeah? Totally anyway, Well,
Speaker 1: thanks for having me on Sopranos Talk guys. Hey, we
Speaker 1: always love talking Sopranos. Uh. Frankly, after most guests were
Speaker 1: like that motherfucker didn't mention it. Will never have a
Speaker 1: talking about income inequality? Miles Where can people find you? With? Tweet?
Speaker 1: You've been enjoying Twitter, Instagram, PlayStation Network, Miles of Gray. Also,
Speaker 1: if you like reality shows, come listen to me and
Speaker 1: Sophie Alexander talk trash reality on four twenty Day Fiance
Speaker 1: Talking ninety Day and others as well. Uh, some tweets
Speaker 1: that I like and it's a lot of good tweets. Uh.
Speaker 1: This one is first of all, I retweeted it, but
Speaker 1: is a photo of Justin Bieber like laughing, and someone
Speaker 1: just said, like, these photos make my heart melt. But
Speaker 1: someone quote tweeted and said the people's princess because it
Speaker 1: really does look like Princess Diana. And I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: put this in the chat really quick so y'all can
Speaker 1: see this and I have a reaction with me. But
Speaker 1: this is a photo of These are two photos of
Speaker 1: Justin Bieber, and it has such strong Diana in the
Speaker 1: eighties vibes. Holy ship. Yeah, whoa, what the fun? That's crazy?
Speaker 1: He's look he's he has those people's princess vibes. Another
Speaker 1: one is from Noah Harold at Noah Harold. It says,
Speaker 1: and like O two oh three, I bought coke out
Speaker 1: of the window of an suv on Cowanga that was
Speaker 1: baby blue for some reason, did it anyway in the
Speaker 1: bathroom at Daddy's on Vine if you remember that bar
Speaker 1: with a friend. That friend just told me he's not
Speaker 1: sure he's going to take the vaccine because he doesn't
Speaker 1: know what's in it. Um. And then one more from
Speaker 1: Coling Young at Coling y o v n G stylize, tweeting.
Speaker 1: In Zack Snyder's Justice League, Superman goes crazy and Batman
Speaker 1: calls him Clark, thus finally answering three doors downs question.
Speaker 1: Uh oh man, Yeah, I was crazy. Well it's just
Speaker 1: you know, now it's ours, thank you. Let's see what
Speaker 1: else did I like? I liked this story from Helena Handbasket.
Speaker 1: She tweeted, my neighbor just dropped the cake she was
Speaker 1: carrying from her car into her house and sat down
Speaker 1: and cried until her husband carried her into the house.
Speaker 1: And I've never felt a stronger connection to any other
Speaker 1: human being in my legs baking her a new cake.
Speaker 1: Now even has a Hollywood ending. Elena Smith tweeted, nobody
Speaker 1: is ready to party like a vaccinated grandparent. That's true
Speaker 1: my mom and her home girls. I don't like their
Speaker 1: time traveling, like partying every day together and like sending
Speaker 1: pictures like and I'm like, okay, well, I'm like, you
Speaker 1: know what you deserve it, yeah, and tying into us
Speaker 1: something we're talking about at Fibula One tweeted, there's just
Speaker 1: not enough time in the day, and then screen time
Speaker 1: eleven hours, twenty three minutes. Uh. You can find me
Speaker 1: on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien. You can find us
Speaker 1: on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. Were at the Daily Zeitgeist
Speaker 1: on Instagram, and we have a Facebook fan page on
Speaker 1: a website, Daily Zeitgeist dot com where we post air
Speaker 1: episodes and our footnotes we link off to the information
Speaker 1: that we talked about in today's episode, and also a
Speaker 1: song we recommend. You can also find all that in
Speaker 1: the show notes, which is the text that comes out
Speaker 1: with the episode. Anyways, Miles, what song is your recommendation
Speaker 1: for today? Um, this is gonna be a mash up
Speaker 1: of the notorious b I G. S Unbelievable with the
Speaker 1: Jackson or No with the Express Yourself. Okay, you're gonna
Speaker 1: put this together. Uh, and you're gonna get something really
Speaker 1: really something you know, wonderful And this is just again
Speaker 1: from Nick Bike wonderful DJ. But you gotta get this
Speaker 1: one on SoundCloud. Okay, that's the only place you get it,
Speaker 1: but that link will be in the short arts. Say
Speaker 1: nights do you do you work with? What's that at?
Speaker 1: It is called hype Machine. Oh yeah, that's a good
Speaker 1: place to a good way to find find ship like that. Anyways, Um,
Speaker 1: that is gonna do it for this morning. We are
Speaker 1: back this afternoon to tell you what's trending, and we
Speaker 1: will talk to y'all that Bye bye bye