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Speaker 1: Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from
Speaker 1: this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment laugh stravaganza.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, So, without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist. Really,
Speaker 1: what is something you think is overrated? Okay? Um, So
Speaker 1: this is in my own personal opinion, and I'm not
Speaker 1: a c p A or a lawyer, but I think
Speaker 1: it's overrated to be afraid of the I R S.
Speaker 1: I think I really like freak out and they are
Speaker 1: afraid of being audited, even if they aren't criminals, and
Speaker 1: they're afraid that if you do do a criminal activity,
Speaker 1: you will definitely get arrested. So, from my personal experience,
Speaker 1: scared I rus. I think I was thinking about that
Speaker 1: and he must have just like been like, no, I
Speaker 1: didn't cheat on my taxes. No I didn't. Because if
Speaker 1: you're like, yeah I did, they're like, okay, we're setting
Speaker 1: up a payment plan. My dad's second wife, when they
Speaker 1: were still married, she did do a mouthfeasance, and because
Speaker 1: they're married, he signed all the tax paperwork and then
Speaker 1: the I R S found out and they were like, hey,
Speaker 1: come on, and they were like, we know, and so
Speaker 1: they put them on a payment plan, um, just to
Speaker 1: pay it off and that's it. And then when my
Speaker 1: dad died, I knew he hadn't finished paying it off
Speaker 1: because he was homeless, so of course he didn't. Uh.
Speaker 1: And I called the I R S and I said, hey,
Speaker 1: my dad died neog money And the woman said, uh,
Speaker 1: did he have a wife And I said no, and
Speaker 1: she said did he have an estate? And I said
Speaker 1: ha ha ha no, and she said, okay, his dad
Speaker 1: is a race and that's it. Like everyone thinks that
Speaker 1: you're gonna if you die with debt, you're your people
Speaker 1: are gonna have to pay for it. No, so again
Speaker 1: only in my personal experiences, like, but if you funk
Speaker 1: up your taxes, just own up to it and you're
Speaker 1: gonna be fine. And the I R S people, the
Speaker 1: customer service at the I r S is actually really nice.
Speaker 1: It just takes a while to get ahold of them
Speaker 1: if you want to get them on the phone. Sometimes
Speaker 1: I've as somebody who's yeah, I've had a few run
Speaker 1: ins with the Internal Revenue Service and I had the
Speaker 1: same evolution to where I was like, oh, man, like
Speaker 1: like I want to sweep sticks years ago, like the
Speaker 1: first time ever in my life, and like yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it was like a contest but like we
Speaker 1: like but it had a prize and ship and like
Speaker 1: my band won and like, so my dumbass was on
Speaker 1: the tax paperwork. So suddenly I'm getting all these like
Speaker 1: materials and other things that I didn't know. You know,
Speaker 1: this is the time I broke his funk. I don't
Speaker 1: know how taxes works. I was like, I don't know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: just fucking keep it and they're like, yeah, motherfucker you
Speaker 1: was like eight grand I'm like and for the longest time,
Speaker 1: I thought they were going to come to my house
Speaker 1: kick the door now, like arrest my mom, like set
Speaker 1: my dog on fire, and like be like like what
Speaker 1: am gonna do? Until I talked to my dad, who
Speaker 1: was an adult who has been through and he's like,
Speaker 1: just tucked to them, you fucking idiot, Like this is
Speaker 1: not Why do you think that's what's gonna happen? I
Speaker 1: don't know. Wesley Snipes went to jail and he's like
Speaker 1: he was so flagrant with it, and I was like, right, okay, right,
Speaker 1: I think I think that ultimately the Iris just wants
Speaker 1: their money more than they want to finish you, which
Speaker 1: is so Unamerican, but yeah, they really just want the
Speaker 1: money because you can be like, well you owe this
Speaker 1: much and like can I give you fifty bucks a
Speaker 1: month and the yeah, yeah, fine, fine, fine, I take
Speaker 1: care man, cat you catch you later out there, and
Speaker 1: you're like, you have motherfucker's knocking on my door dropping
Speaker 1: off like six pound envelopes and ship yeah. Yeah. But
Speaker 1: then as soon as you agree to your ten dollar
Speaker 1: a month payment plan, they're like, at the very least,
Speaker 1: just talk to a tax prepared because that was the
Speaker 1: like after my dad and then talking to someone they're
Speaker 1: like okay, like and you can feel off the energy
Speaker 1: from an accountant when you tell them the situation. They're like, okay,
Speaker 1: so we'll do this. And you're like, wait, I don't
Speaker 1: have to climb a mountain and give a blood offering
Speaker 1: to some kind of deity. No, okay, that's totally like
Speaker 1: when I'm in an airplane and there's two urbulence, I
Speaker 1: immediately look for the flight attendants and every time they're
Speaker 1: just like chilling, and I'm like, okay, good. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: think my fear comes from a Seinfeld episode where he
Speaker 1: was audited. Did that happen? And he had to find
Speaker 1: all the receipts that he didn't have and yeah, yeah, also, yeah,
Speaker 1: my dad was audited too. I remember as a kid,
Speaker 1: and it was like I remember being too young, but
Speaker 1: I just remember the word and how stressed my dad
Speaker 1: was and him like looking through boxes and I don't
Speaker 1: want that. But now everything is digital, like it's such
Speaker 1: a different time now. Yeah, I can summon bank records
Speaker 1: like that, exactly exactly. I've heard that like part of
Speaker 1: if you're paying like a private accountant, not like H
Speaker 1: and R Block, but if you're paying big bucks for
Speaker 1: an accountant kind of what you're paying for his protection
Speaker 1: and not having to deal. Yeah, because if they're the
Speaker 1: ones who did your taxes, virus will come to them first.
Speaker 1: All that you say, they're they're setting up the taxes
Speaker 1: codes and plans to be so sucking confusing that we
Speaker 1: can't just do it. Are like so many other countries
Speaker 1: have way better processes for this kind of ship where
Speaker 1: they're actually the ones keeping tabs and be like here's
Speaker 1: your bill, here's your bill. Yeah, counting on people to
Speaker 1: like funk up and not be able to get the
Speaker 1: maximum you know, return or what they're owed. So it's
Speaker 1: just what if the restaurant made you figure out the
Speaker 1: market price for like fish that day, We're like, all right,
Speaker 1: so here are the economic conditions and the fish market
Speaker 1: out of Russia, which is where we imported this from.
Speaker 1: I impoured on my fish from Russia when to go
Speaker 1: out to eat. But yeah, there's actually a column about
Speaker 1: that very thing in the l A Times. I think
Speaker 1: it came out on Friday by Lucas Kwan Peterson, and
Speaker 1: it's about how we don't understand food costs and we
Speaker 1: should all be paying more money. So we've got a
Speaker 1: lot of topics in there. We're paying for cheap, we're
Speaker 1: paying too too little for food. Yeah yeah, in terms
Speaker 1: of like how it how the cose bears out for
Speaker 1: like the restaurant itself to run as a business, or
Speaker 1: like what the actual costs are for the for the product,
Speaker 1: well for the restaurants itself, and then you know, further
Speaker 1: down the supply chain the farms and yeah, processors all
Speaker 1: that sort of stuff. Yeah yeah, Blake, what's something you
Speaker 1: think is overrated? Overrated? I'm gonna go with Francis Scott
Speaker 1: Key and I just first of all, I'm like, because
Speaker 1: you know the whole story war of eighteen twelve and
Speaker 1: eighteen fourteen, he was he was an American. By the way,
Speaker 1: this is funny to be. I looked up Francis Scott Key,
Speaker 1: and the thing that comes up on Google as his
Speaker 1: job isn't guy who penned the Star Spangled banner. It
Speaker 1: just says American lawyer, which I thought was, Yeah, it's like,
Speaker 1: all right, I guess s c O for Francis Scott Key.
Speaker 1: But he uh, he was doing a prisoner exchange aboard
Speaker 1: a British ship, as lawyers are want to do, and
Speaker 1: he figured out or he saw like their plans to
Speaker 1: like bombard this harbor, so didn't let him off the
Speaker 1: boat until after the bombardment. So you stuck on this boat.
Speaker 1: And just like I just for the lyrics, don't hold
Speaker 1: up to me for that song. And then also I'm
Speaker 1: more of like an America the beautiful type person you know,
Speaker 1: call me, call me nuts. And if I was in jail,
Speaker 1: I would do some push ups, you know, like not
Speaker 1: like I would get in shape, not do like a
Speaker 1: side hoppy. Does that make sense? So I think the
Speaker 1: whole Francis Scott's key thing is it's not even so
Speaker 1: you're saying, since he was locked down on that ship,
Speaker 1: he should have been doing burpies in the yard right,
Speaker 1: not sitting there writing music and racist as poems. I agree,
Speaker 1: become our national anthem. I'm looking on his Wikipedia page.
Speaker 1: There's he has his own coat of arms, and it's
Speaker 1: probably one of the most disappointing looking coat of arms
Speaker 1: I've ever seen, because it's like a really bland shield
Speaker 1: with two like horizontal or diagonal black stripes like a
Speaker 1: white shield too, solid diagonal black lines, your usual filigree
Speaker 1: around the side. Then you have a night helmet with
Speaker 1: like a griffin head on top with a key in
Speaker 1: its smouth. It's so fucking get it, Like, yeah it
Speaker 1: is it saying get it key, like out of a
Speaker 1: word balloon. Well, even his kind of pointing to itself
Speaker 1: with like, yeah, Scott, what now griffin? Scott funk. I
Speaker 1: knew the griffin was a bad idea. It kind of
Speaker 1: looks like a lama too. Mm hmmm. I like having
Speaker 1: a logo for your family. A coat of arms is
Speaker 1: almost always disappointing, you know, like it's never like you
Speaker 1: could choose anything like that. That guy wasn't a night
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, you could put anything on it,
Speaker 1: and that's what he chose. It's like it kind of
Speaker 1: just the resurgence of coat of arms is like my
Speaker 1: favorite thing is like you know, be like the sort
Speaker 1: of west or in European answer to like ancient calligraphy
Speaker 1: or foreign languages or like yeah, this is actually my history.
Speaker 1: This is the coat of arms for the McMahon family.
Speaker 1: And it's like very in depth and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: that's cool, and it's it always it just yeah, it
Speaker 1: looks like a logo for a boarding school always, you know,
Speaker 1: and it's never like at least like in Japan, there's
Speaker 1: like mung or like Common which is your family like Crest,
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of cool ones that are like
Speaker 1: coming out of you know, depending on where your family
Speaker 1: was at in that period. Uh. And like when I
Speaker 1: found mine, I was like all about that because this
Speaker 1: is my coat of arms, because I was yelling at
Speaker 1: my Scottish friend who was showing me his, and I
Speaker 1: felt disappointed there wasn't one for Japan. But anyway, I
Speaker 1: think mine was the three Fans. If you're interested, mine
Speaker 1: is three Lions, which perfectly matches up with my dynamic
Speaker 1: and tenacious personality. But I am a leo, so that
Speaker 1: it does kind of work like that. Oh yeah, oh yours.
Speaker 1: It is actually three lines for the O'Brien thee. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just three guys name Brian. Yeah, and they're like kind
Speaker 1: of doing a like weird pose, like it almost seems
Speaker 1: like they're doing the um the teen Wolf dance. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: this is how I've always interpreted minds. A street sign
Speaker 1: that just says rough road ahead. They give you that
Speaker 1: when you're born a little Oh yeah, well it's been
Speaker 1: a tough couple of cent srees for the Wexlers. It's
Speaker 1: just an expiration date. It says, uh, March expire. So
Speaker 1: I don't know what that is. What do you guys
Speaker 1: think it means? I don't know. We'll see it verycent. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's up there with like name name meaning with like
Speaker 1: a thing that people think is significant. That probably he
Speaker 1: was made up in like the seventies by someone who
Speaker 1: was selling T shirts. Yeah that and like any stupid
Speaker 1: as gift shop of a meaningless place that shouldn't have
Speaker 1: a gift shops always like look what your name means.
Speaker 1: It's like means follower of Christ, soldier, dedicated, and like,
Speaker 1: what the fun? But there's so many like contradictory and
Speaker 1: like just so many different meanings for literally every name.
Speaker 1: But people are like, I like this one. I like
Speaker 1: this possible name for my child because it means a
Speaker 1: beautiful princess of the flowers. It's like, I've also seen
Speaker 1: where it means uh island that garlic comes from, which
Speaker 1: is actually the meaning of Ramsey, which is one of
Speaker 1: my kid's names, actually does come from Latin of soldier.
Speaker 1: He remember seeing that. I was like, I ain't a soldier, bro, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Miles is too cool and named. I'm a deserter bro
Speaker 1: smoking weed while. But it's like, you know, doing where
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I'm sorry, was way too intense for me.
Speaker 1: Right now, I'm a deserted through and through desert. I'm
Speaker 1: eating dessert all the time. It's it's a great community.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, very yeah, just you know, bad teeth though,
Speaker 1: a lot of sugar, a lot of cavities. Actually, when
Speaker 1: I look up the meaning of my name, it just
Speaker 1: says let like jacking off, you know, soh my god,
Speaker 1: that's that's surprising. I was I though it would be
Speaker 1: less literal than that. Yeah, that's pretty on the nose that,
Speaker 1: you know, like jacking off. What is something from your
Speaker 1: search history that's revealing about who you are, what you're
Speaker 1: up to, you know what? Let me open it right now,
Speaker 1: live intense, drumroll please okay. Um. I was recently looking
Speaker 1: up Dolly Parton's husband, Carl Dean. Um the enigma that
Speaker 1: is Carl Deane because um, you know, as you guys know,
Speaker 1: I have the podcast Celebrity book Club where I read
Speaker 1: celebrity memoirs, and I always thought of Dolly Partners, you know,
Speaker 1: an enigma, and we don't know anything about Carl, and
Speaker 1: then you read her nineteen autobiography and you're like, there's
Speaker 1: a ship ton about Carl in here. I mean, there's
Speaker 1: too much. There's too much. She's like, she describes you, guys,
Speaker 1: Carl Deane. I don't know if you saw this coming,
Speaker 1: because you are you are you Dolly Partner fans? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean we're we're Dolly fan adjacent. So the lore
Speaker 1: intersects with the show pretty often. I think the last
Speaker 1: time we talked about Carl Deane, we were just like
Speaker 1: laughing at how like norm Core he was. But then
Speaker 1: then how that like kind of made sense for them
Speaker 1: as a that's amazing. I'm gonna ruin that for you too,
Speaker 1: Oh yes, please do. Because then my other thing was
Speaker 1: like maybe he's a freak. Um, now he's not a
Speaker 1: total freak, but but here's like a story she told
Speaker 1: about him of like like a friend and I'm I'm paraphrasing,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get something wrong. She would she told stories
Speaker 1: about bits. Carl likes to do. Carl loves bits. I
Speaker 1: don't know if he's not coming now more than your
Speaker 1: direct comedian manentering type, like he loves bits. He has
Speaker 1: a solid chunk on the trader. Joe's the trader, Joe's
Speaker 1: um not saying it, but like a physical he loves
Speaker 1: a physical gag. So apparently, like to to make one
Speaker 1: of her friends laugh, he put on these like huge
Speaker 1: like a huge necklace of like cow teeth and maybe
Speaker 1: like a weird hat that went with it, like a
Speaker 1: full you know, full thing comes walking in and stuck
Speaker 1: to the bit for nine hours, nine hours of having
Speaker 1: a cow teeth like just just a kooky outfit on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think I think he was also playing a character.
Speaker 1: I think he had a voice. Oh, yeah. And then
Speaker 1: there's another story about how she was at a concert
Speaker 1: once and like looked over and Carl had just joined
Speaker 1: the band and was like singing with the bands. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then like as part of the air coupled them,
Speaker 1: she had him arrested by the cops, like this stranger
Speaker 1: wandered on stage with us, Please arrest this man who's
Speaker 1: as like part of it, Like Carl will find this
Speaker 1: hilarious him. And then here's the third layer. They've never
Speaker 1: acknowledged it to each other, and Dolly says, Carl likes
Speaker 1: the jokes better. Wait, so this rule so he doesn't
Speaker 1: know that she had him arrested, so he knows. They
Speaker 1: just it's like a committing to the bit of like
Speaker 1: he pretended to be a stranger, She pretended he was
Speaker 1: a stranger to and Adam arrested. He did his bid
Speaker 1: like a boss six months. Yeah, doesn't drop it, doesn't
Speaker 1: call it out. Yeah. So yeah, So if if you're
Speaker 1: a Dolly head and you want to know about Carl
Speaker 1: de pick up the book or there wasn't my podcast.
Speaker 1: Honestly that's a better plug, but talk about it or
Speaker 1: that it just it is so norm core and that
Speaker 1: she has a juvenile, annoying husband, like annoying the funk
Speaker 1: out of her and then get arrested. But then you're
Speaker 1: kind of into that too, because you're like, that's my contribution. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's like he's got like weird dead vibes, like the
Speaker 1: silly dad who's like always doing bad dad jokes but
Speaker 1: like taking them too far to the point that it
Speaker 1: makes everybody uncomfortable. Yes, yes, although I I I love
Speaker 1: this Carl is norm Core theory, but I I feel
Speaker 1: like if Carl were Norm Coore when Dolly got famous,
Speaker 1: he would have got competitive, divorced her or tried to
Speaker 1: be her manager. And then of those things happened, and
Speaker 1: he's still with her and like, lets her clearly have
Speaker 1: an open marriage that he doesn't participate in. So that's
Speaker 1: where I'm just like, oh, I don't know that. Is
Speaker 1: it an open marriage? It is, I will tell you
Speaker 1: this from reading the book and from her interview with
Speaker 1: Barbara Walters, There's no way it's not an open marriage. However,
Speaker 1: Dolly is the one in the open Carl. She says,
Speaker 1: I believe Carl, I'm the only person he's ever been
Speaker 1: with with all my heart, And then in other parts
Speaker 1: of the book, she's like, I've never met a man
Speaker 1: I didn't want to have sex with. And then in
Speaker 1: the Q and A she's it's of like a very
Speaker 1: funny Q and A. In the back of the book,
Speaker 1: they say, have you ever cheated on Carl? And she said, that's, uh,
Speaker 1: that's for me to know and for you and Carl
Speaker 1: to find out. I mean, is that her being witty
Speaker 1: or you think that's her just kind of being like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I cheat, but I'm gonna give you a cute and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a um. I mean, she is definitely,
Speaker 1: she loves to joke her way at the truth. However,
Speaker 1: in the book she's also like, I'm so horny. I
Speaker 1: mean throughout the she's like, I'm so horny. I love sex, um,
Speaker 1: and I didn't know if I could believe in God,
Speaker 1: but now I do because I can have sex. I
Speaker 1: love sex, And me and Carl Dean don't live together
Speaker 1: often and I often don't see him. So the math
Speaker 1: equation on that to me is like, Okay, I mean
Speaker 1: Dolly's getting it in. Yeah. If she's not, I'm devastated.
Speaker 1: So I just slieve. But yeah. The Barbara Walter's interview
Speaker 1: I thought made it clear, or if they have an
Speaker 1: open marriage. Yeah, okay, it's it's like literally impossible for
Speaker 1: her to like every detail that you just said makes
Speaker 1: her more endearing. She's just maybe the most endearing human ever. Right,
Speaker 1: I totally agree. I totally agree. The only unendearing thing
Speaker 1: about her is that she uh hates the word feminist.
Speaker 1: But other than that, I feel like even on like
Speaker 1: she's I feel like she comes around on black lives
Speaker 1: matters issues and you think he's done wrong. Feels like
Speaker 1: we call her out, she she changes, is accountable. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well we hold her in high regard. But yeah, now
Speaker 1: the whole time we're like, man, was Carls just getting cucked?
Speaker 1: The whole time was like, well she with Burt Reynolds
Speaker 1: or was that just like his kink where he's like
Speaker 1: danger with them? That's well, because we've actually the last
Speaker 1: time we brought him up was in the context of
Speaker 1: like does she cheat and if she does, does he know?
Speaker 1: Does he like that or does he just likes he knows? Oh,
Speaker 1: he knows. And also what I love about the Burt
Speaker 1: Reynolds thing is that he Burt Reynolds wrote is memoir
Speaker 1: n That's when Dolly Parton's came out in his memoir.
Speaker 1: He's like, maybe me and Dolly Parton had a thing.
Speaker 1: I'll never tell you, but she wanted to fuck me.
Speaker 1: And in Dolly Parton's memoir she writes, I could never
Speaker 1: fuck Burt Reynolds. He's like a brother to me. We
Speaker 1: both wear wigs and high heels. And it came out
Speaker 1: the same year, like they already published, when they both
Speaker 1: had to look at each other and be like a
Speaker 1: few people know Carl Deane was the photographer on that
Speaker 1: Burt Reynolds bear skin nude photos. So all right, we're
Speaker 1: gonna take a quick break and we'll be right back.
Speaker 1: And we're back. What is something from your search history
Speaker 1: that's revealing about who you are? Do Vitamin deep Hills work?
Speaker 1: Is I've I've I've I've hit quite the the D
Speaker 1: deficiency um since since I've been on the East Coast,
Speaker 1: and I also had it on the West Coast. So
Speaker 1: it's like, well, if you're going to be Vitamin D
Speaker 1: deficient in southern California, then I think that's just what
Speaker 1: the rest of your life is going to look like.
Speaker 1: But I can't get it right here. But man, if
Speaker 1: you can't get it there man, So uh, maybe I'm
Speaker 1: getting some some raids from your your star glow, the
Speaker 1: glow of your stars on this podcast right now, so
Speaker 1: I feel like the levels skyrocketing. But um, it's mixed. Uh,
Speaker 1: there's no answer on this where doct Some doctors say
Speaker 1: that it does work. Studies also say that vitamin D
Speaker 1: pills don't work. Supplements. I think might be a better
Speaker 1: way of saying that. So I'm I'm I'm at a loss.
Speaker 1: I might just take them and see if they work.
Speaker 1: It's the same thing. What about like ingesting them, like
Speaker 1: where they're naturally occurring as like nutrients. Oh, but that
Speaker 1: sounds like more than I'm willing to well, as long
Speaker 1: as we do, as long as we ironed that part out.
Speaker 1: Where do we get vitamin D? I have iron I'm
Speaker 1: sorry that you're asking, no, no, which from the sun?
Speaker 1: Oh that's from the sun? Yeah, usually getting it from
Speaker 1: the sun, but you get it from like I know,
Speaker 1: it's always like dairy and like like fatty fish ship.
Speaker 1: You can get it because I remember when I went
Speaker 1: to the for a checkup, like in the middle of lockdown.
Speaker 1: The doctor was like, I'm seeing this with everyone and
Speaker 1: you normally aren't vitamin D to fishing, but you need
Speaker 1: your your levels are going down. Okay, I'll just tell
Speaker 1: my doctor Miles that I'm gonna go get a fat fish.
Speaker 1: That sounds like great advice, thank you. Yeah, exactly. Dude,
Speaker 1: come to my new food truck, fat fish. Dude, fat fish.
Speaker 1: Trying to look on a genius because there there is
Speaker 1: that Beyonce Lyric he wants he wants to give me
Speaker 1: the vitamin D. I just want to find out where
Speaker 1: she's getting that from and then I can maybe a
Speaker 1: recommendation thank you to you. Okay, Yeah, just reach out
Speaker 1: to this this guy, Shawn Carter and ask him to
Speaker 1: give you the vitamin D and it seems like he'll Hi,
Speaker 1: I'm looking for the man and I'm here for the
Speaker 1: vitamin D inngestion. Hey, I'm the guy with the skin
Speaker 1: that's getting really pale and it makes me not healthy. J.
Speaker 1: Can I call you J that's good, I can call
Speaker 1: for the wreck call me Dr D Dr D dr
Speaker 1: D to you, my man? Uh, why why do you
Speaker 1: think is it just not going outside, not ever seen
Speaker 1: in the sunlight? What's going on? Why? Why are we
Speaker 1: so D deficient that would vibe with my general my
Speaker 1: outgoing you know persona that I don't go outside, but
Speaker 1: I am quite I'm outside quite a lot, So I
Speaker 1: don't know. It's it's been happening for a couple of years.
Speaker 1: Like literally, I'll go biking every single day for like
Speaker 1: an hour and a half and it's still it's still
Speaker 1: not happening for me. So you are going to yes,
Speaker 1: and and during the summer that it heats up, like
Speaker 1: the sunburn that I get is I'll say off putting.
Speaker 1: I'll say it's very upsetting. I look like a fish.
Speaker 1: I look like one of those fish that Miles reckon
Speaker 1: Insto everybody to eat fish. Yeah, Like it can happen
Speaker 1: from not enough sunlight, or maybe your if your skin,
Speaker 1: if you're like melan you've too much melanin, you're not
Speaker 1: making as much vitamin D. It can be a number
Speaker 1: of things. You know, maybe your body doesn't absorb it properly.
Speaker 1: So I should figure this out. It manifests itself as
Speaker 1: like you become Mr Glass from you just chattering from unbreakable,
Speaker 1: but emotionally only emotionally anything that comes out emotion very
Speaker 1: emotionally fragile from this, What is something from your search
Speaker 1: history that is revealing about what you're up to, just
Speaker 1: a lot of like, what's the deal with sub stack?
Speaker 1: Is sub stack transphobic? So do you guys know what
Speaker 1: sub stack is? It's a newsletter platform, um, And it
Speaker 1: hasn't been around that long, and it was supposed to
Speaker 1: be like this great new hope for journalists because it's
Speaker 1: like you can do your own thing, you can make
Speaker 1: your own money, and everyone including me, is like a newslettering.
Speaker 1: That seems cool, But then it turns out that they've
Speaker 1: been giving money to certain writers, writers who tend to
Speaker 1: be white men, who already have a platform, and they're like, no,
Speaker 1: we're we it's private. If people want to talk about
Speaker 1: us giving them money, they can, but it's not up
Speaker 1: to us. It's private. Um. So they're doing that thing
Speaker 1: where they're saying that they're they don't have an editorial
Speaker 1: platform though, like this is an editorial This is just
Speaker 1: like the way that you get your newsletter out there.
Speaker 1: But then they pay certain people to use the platform.
Speaker 1: So I would argue that they do have an editorial
Speaker 1: point of view. I mean, and a lot of people
Speaker 1: have been So I have my newsletter on it and
Speaker 1: they're like paying people to say transphobic stuff. I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: other companies are doing well essentially. I mean, if they're
Speaker 1: paying someone who says transphobic stuff, then they're paying someone
Speaker 1: to say stuff, right, Yeah, and not that my newsletter
Speaker 1: makes This is not going to change my lifestyle if
Speaker 1: I don't have a newsletter for a while. But it's
Speaker 1: just I hate how everything like, um, what's that thing
Speaker 1: the milkshake duck? Like you can milkshake duck anything. Eventually
Speaker 1: everything's bad, Everything turns out to be evil. What's milkshake duck? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking. Okay, So it comes
Speaker 1: from this meme Oh gosh, now I'm not going to
Speaker 1: be able to explain it well, but it's comes from
Speaker 1: meme culture essentially, where like you find out that something
Speaker 1: is or you think that something is really cool everybody, yes, yes.
Speaker 1: The framing of it, yeah, where you see something and
Speaker 1: then you expand the image and you're like, wait, like
Speaker 1: this in this image that milkshakes drinking a duck. Zoom out,
Speaker 1: it has not a swastika arm band on its foot,
Speaker 1: and you're like, yes, exactly. So it's like, I mean,
Speaker 1: maybe and maybe that would happen to all of us.
Speaker 1: Maybe we should all get offline before we get milkshake
Speaker 1: duck because none of us are perfect. So that's what
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about as a erstwhile member of the media
Speaker 1: these days. All right, now, explain to me what the meme? Yeah,
Speaker 1: just choking? Hey, what's Chewbacca mask? Lady? Just people explain
Speaker 1: memes to me, Like when I remember when Cropton was
Speaker 1: describing TikTok's I think was one of my favorite ones.
Speaker 1: Got this song where it's like, oh no, no, no, alright,
Speaker 1: let's talk uh s about about the piece you are
Speaker 1: reporting for. Knock l A. Is that uh you can
Speaker 1: you talk a little bit first of all about that
Speaker 1: publication and like how how the peace came came about? Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1: Um So knock l A is the journalism arm of
Speaker 1: a nonprofit here in l A called ground Game UM.
Speaker 1: And they do organizing around um, you know, like voter registration, UM.
Speaker 1: They help people get the vaccine. They did some mutual
Speaker 1: aid at the beginning of the pandemic, and I believe
Speaker 1: that's still ongoing. So they're great, And they have this
Speaker 1: journalism outfit that is doing some really great work as
Speaker 1: far as independent media in the Los Angeles UM landscape,
Speaker 1: there isn't too much of that, so they're a great addition.
Speaker 1: I reached out to them with a list that I
Speaker 1: had got my hands on through some public records action
Speaker 1: requests UM. And it's a list that the County of
Speaker 1: Los Angeles keeps of litigation that they've been involved in
Speaker 1: where deputy gangs have been involved. And I went to
Speaker 1: knock and I said, hey, like this is UM. I
Speaker 1: think this list could turn into, you know, a pretty
Speaker 1: big project UM, and I'd love to work with you
Speaker 1: to use this to sort of create a history of
Speaker 1: what we know about deputy gangs in the Los Angeles
Speaker 1: County Sheriff's Department. And they said, yes, of course, let's
Speaker 1: get started. And they were really great UM with helping
Speaker 1: me first of all, pay for everything. UM. Although all
Speaker 1: of this stuff is public record, you do have to
Speaker 1: pay for it, and that adds up very quickly. This
Speaker 1: series cost over three thousand dollars to just research. They
Speaker 1: were really great with providing me with some research assistance
Speaker 1: to get through quite literally tens of thousands of pages
Speaker 1: of documents UM in the past six months. And they
Speaker 1: gave me a great home for the website, and they
Speaker 1: are helping me build a database of all of the
Speaker 1: law enforcement officials that we have identified that have an
Speaker 1: affiliate with a deputy gang, which will be available for
Speaker 1: the public to use, and it will be a living
Speaker 1: document that we will be updating for years to come.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. So, I mean, for I think a lot
Speaker 1: of people they've heard us talk about deputy gangs before
Speaker 1: on this show. We've referenced it, We've talked about like anytime,
Speaker 1: maybe it becomes a slight news story and then vanishes
Speaker 1: pretty quickly. We like to touch on it. But can
Speaker 1: you kind of just walk us through the evolution of
Speaker 1: the like the gangs within the Sheriff's department in Nelly County, Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1: So the gangs in the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Apartment
Speaker 1: have existed at least since the nineteen seventies, starting with
Speaker 1: a gang called the Little Devils that was based out
Speaker 1: of the East Los Angeles station. There was a huge
Speaker 1: event in the seventies called the Chicano Moratorium, which I'm
Speaker 1: sure you've talked about on this show as well, um,
Speaker 1: which was a demonstration of about people in East Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: a heavy the Latin next area demonstrating against the Vietnam War.
Speaker 1: And this event, it's alleged that Little Devils were a
Speaker 1: part of a group of deputies that brutalized people at
Speaker 1: this demonstration. Um, you know the photos from what happened
Speaker 1: that they are atrocious. As jurnalist was even killed by
Speaker 1: a deputy who shot a can of tear gas at him.
Speaker 1: His name was Ruben Salazar. So after that happened, a
Speaker 1: investigation was done or well, i'll say investigation invitations. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it was a chief was asked to identify members
Speaker 1: of the Little Devils and a list was made. But
Speaker 1: that's that's all that really happened with that as far
Speaker 1: as we know, they were put on a list, and
Speaker 1: from that point, I mean, deputy gangs were pretty much
Speaker 1: allowed to flourish. Um. The sheriff at that time, Sherman Block,
Speaker 1: he said um that he thought gang members probably got
Speaker 1: a kick out of deputies being in a gang and
Speaker 1: flashing gang science at them. At that time, we know
Speaker 1: of at least um, let's see, following the nineteen seventies,
Speaker 1: we know of probably four gangs that were functioning between
Speaker 1: the eighties and the nineties. Those are the Wayside Whiteis
Speaker 1: in the Wayside Honor Rancher Jail, the ave Men, which
Speaker 1: was sort of like a second generation of the Little
Speaker 1: Devils at the East Los Angeles Station. And there were
Speaker 1: the Linwood Vikings, which is probably the one um we
Speaker 1: know the most about. They were based in the Linwood
Speaker 1: Station and they were identified as a white supremacist gang
Speaker 1: by a US federal judge. Um, you know, that didn't
Speaker 1: mean they were exclusively white. They had several um, Latino
Speaker 1: and black members. Um, they're Viking tattoos. They would change
Speaker 1: the horns to signify their ethnic identity. And you know,
Speaker 1: they would just essentially go out and terrorize people. They would,
Speaker 1: you know, hold families at gunpoint, um, and execute unauthorized searches.
Speaker 1: They chased people and shot them. They murdered people. One
Speaker 1: investigator that I spoke to, he believes that a deputy
Speaker 1: is responsible for the murder of a client of his
Speaker 1: that he represented in a class action suit against the
Speaker 1: Sheriff's Department in the Linwood Station that was called Darren
Speaker 1: Thomas versus Los Angeles. That case was settled in the nineties,
Speaker 1: But that's how we got a lot of information about
Speaker 1: the vikings was as a result of that case. And
Speaker 1: in terms of like gangs, right, we used the term
Speaker 1: gang and a lot of people if you're thinking of
Speaker 1: a street gang, like they're involved in you know, drugs
Speaker 1: or whatever other kind of racket, racketeering, whatever kind of activities. First,
Speaker 1: what what are the activities of like a sheriff's deputy gang, Like,
Speaker 1: what what are the act like what do we see
Speaker 1: them engage in that is sort of specific to these
Speaker 1: organized groups within the department. Yeah, I would say they
Speaker 1: functioned pretty much like a typical criminal street gang. The
Speaker 1: California Penal Code um there are a couple of signifiers
Speaker 1: that they look forward to categorize something as a street gang,
Speaker 1: one of which is a common hand sign, common tattoo.
Speaker 1: We've got that and engaged in crimes. We've seen deputy
Speaker 1: gangs engage in, you know, drugs, We've seen them engage
Speaker 1: in robberies. We've seen them engage in d by shooting, yes,
Speaker 1: drive by shootings, assaults, murders, so, you know, rape, pretty
Speaker 1: much anything that a criminal streak gang does, the deputy
Speaker 1: gang does. They're just doing it in uniform, right, and
Speaker 1: using the authority of this state to justify the violence.
Speaker 1: And then it seems like every time that they are uh,
Speaker 1: somebody attempts to bring them to justice and the police
Speaker 1: force of the city tries to like deal with the gangs.
Speaker 1: There's a pattern of it being so weak or so
Speaker 1: ineffectual the penalties that the gangs almost seem entitled to
Speaker 1: do more and do worse, Like, at least so far
Speaker 1: in your reporting the part that I'm up to, it
Speaker 1: just seems like it's a pattern of them doing something
Speaker 1: unbelievably you know, out in the open rutal racist they
Speaker 1: get brought up on that and there's either settlement, but
Speaker 1: there's never any criminal repercussions, And then that seems to
Speaker 1: make the gangs feel like, oh ship, we can we
Speaker 1: can do this and more right, oh yeah, in terms
Speaker 1: of like saying right, we have to bring things into
Speaker 1: the light of day, right to try and sanitize the situation.
Speaker 1: What are the current obstacles, I mean, aside from you know,
Speaker 1: systemic white supremacy that allows these sort of structures to
Speaker 1: remain in place, are what are the kinds of awareness
Speaker 1: that we can bring to the public to obviously create
Speaker 1: more public pressure or how do we how what is
Speaker 1: what is the way to remedy this, um, based on
Speaker 1: what you've investigated. Yeah, Um, well, there are a lot
Speaker 1: of groups that have been involved in this work for
Speaker 1: a long time, which longer than I've been investigating it.
Speaker 1: One in particular that I would like to point people
Speaker 1: to to check the Shaff Coalition. They work with the
Speaker 1: a c l U that has been monitoring deputy gangs
Speaker 1: for years UM, and they're organizing around a lot of
Speaker 1: things that could change these policies. Like one thing that
Speaker 1: I learned about that I didn't know about was the
Speaker 1: Peace Officer's Bill of Rights, which is a law that
Speaker 1: exists in most states that gives UM law enforcement officers
Speaker 1: the right to know everything about an investing a criminal
Speaker 1: investigation that they are the subject of. They get to
Speaker 1: meet with a union representative and a lawyer and review
Speaker 1: all that before they talked to any investigators. The investigation
Speaker 1: has to be completed within a year or they cannot
Speaker 1: be charged. Um. And that's that's the case in most states. Um.
Speaker 1: So this isn't. This isn't that's not specifically just a
Speaker 1: Los Angeles problem. That's that's something that's happening all over
Speaker 1: the country. But yeah, it's it seems like this this
Speaker 1: is a problem, like when you read about reporting of
Speaker 1: corruption in NYPD, like there's all all sorts of well,
Speaker 1: it might not be like organized gangs with hand signals
Speaker 1: like that. It seems like there's a very common problem there. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just that it's impossible to bring them
Speaker 1: to criminal justice under the current system, and that of
Speaker 1: course they're going to feel entitled to continue to I
Speaker 1: think the first your first report is called the protected
Speaker 1: class UM, which I think is fitting. Right. Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: One other thing I'd want to mention is, UM, when
Speaker 1: we're looking at l A specifically about this UM. Another
Speaker 1: reason why you won't see a lot of these deputies
Speaker 1: charged in these shootings. Um, it goes back to the
Speaker 1: district attorney. Right. The district attorney is the one who
Speaker 1: decides whether or not they'll be prosecuted. The district attorney
Speaker 1: and the sheriffs are now in the same union, I believe,
Speaker 1: so you know, there's a really symbiotic relationship there. UM.
Speaker 1: Oftentimes the police union, you know, they'll just straight up
Speaker 1: threatened the district attorneys UM, and they'll say, you know,
Speaker 1: like if you're going to prosecute our guys like, don't
Speaker 1: count on us to show up and testify when you have,
Speaker 1: you know, a high profile case that type of thing.
Speaker 1: The union will really hold people hostage. So there are
Speaker 1: a lot of people involved in this, right Yeah. I
Speaker 1: mean even over the summer, like when even the city
Speaker 1: council here was even mulling over defunding the police department
Speaker 1: or law enforcement like the show of force to be
Speaker 1: like hey we you know, a very like very seemingly
Speaker 1: innocent being like hey, we're all here together. But when
Speaker 1: you see a group of people telling you, oh, man,
Speaker 1: like who's going to protect you? Who's going to protect you?
Speaker 1: And saying things like that to somebody who's possibly in
Speaker 1: a position to bring accountability, like, yeah, you see that
Speaker 1: there's many things at work. That's a you know, propping
Speaker 1: them up. Who's going to protect you from us? For instance? Yeah,
Speaker 1: the the Salazar story was wild, like uh, that's kind
Speaker 1: of where you're reporting starts. And so he was a
Speaker 1: journalist who had been critical of law enforcement, right and
Speaker 1: then he gets you know, shot and killed by a
Speaker 1: crowd controlled device, which is something we're still seeing to
Speaker 1: this day, like maiming people. Yeah, yeah, that story was
Speaker 1: really hard for me um to read, because it's it's
Speaker 1: like kind of like looking in a mirror, right, like
Speaker 1: you doing the same stuff. Now I've been shot um
Speaker 1: with less than lethal ammunitions by police. Um, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: the same things are happening today, right, Like the work
Speaker 1: that you're doing is so important and something that to me,
Speaker 1: I would immediately begin to shy away from, like you know,
Speaker 1: just to be like the fear that I already had
Speaker 1: of in innately of police. But then for you, like
Speaker 1: and the work that all people do activists around this,
Speaker 1: I think is really impressive because yeah, like there are
Speaker 1: examples of retaliation for those trying to bring them to account,
Speaker 1: and like reading that on top of the history of
Speaker 1: how these gangs operate, it's really just seems like a
Speaker 1: like a like just a daunting task, but one that,
Speaker 1: like you said, is absolutely necessary for people to become
Speaker 1: aware of it because the more it just operates in secrecy,
Speaker 1: then it's just gonna proliferate and flourish and well the
Speaker 1: next thing, you know, we're like, wow, how did this
Speaker 1: get here because we haven't brought the attention to it.
Speaker 1: So for that, like, yeah, very grateful for the work
Speaker 1: that you and many others do in that in that
Speaker 1: space because it helps us to sort of understand really
Speaker 1: what's at stake in the city. The story about them, Um,
Speaker 1: I think it's a person in the community that they murdered,
Speaker 1: and then that when that man's child is like a teenager,
Speaker 1: they threatened the child basically too, saying like we we
Speaker 1: have our eye on you. Like it's like they're generationally
Speaker 1: like cruel and retaliatory against just anyone who crosses them. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was speaking to the family of Um, a family
Speaker 1: member of Anthony Vargas yesterday, and that's a young man
Speaker 1: who was killed by the Los Angeles County Sheriff's apartment
Speaker 1: UM Bendito s gang. And she was telling me that,
Speaker 1: you know, the deputies will park outside of her house
Speaker 1: and talked to her nieces and nephews and threaten um
Speaker 1: Anthony's older brother. So you know this, Like I said,
Speaker 1: that story that you were talking about Jack, that happened
Speaker 1: thirty years ago. But these same tactics like that that
Speaker 1: that was going on this week unbelievable. All right, let's
Speaker 1: take a quick break and we'll come back and talk
Speaker 1: about something else, and we're back, all right, Well, I
Speaker 1: want to talk about UFO is real quick because apparently
Speaker 1: someone just hit a little Russian nesting doll of legislation
Speaker 1: in the COVID Relief Act last year that basically requires
Speaker 1: the government to just provide the receipts, just bring it
Speaker 1: all out, put it all on the table. And the
Speaker 1: former Director of National Intelligence is saying that it it
Speaker 1: could be big. Which one which d N I though, Uh,
Speaker 1: it's it's your boy. Uh what's his name? Bad? Bad, terrible?
Speaker 1: I think Trump Trump got he said, yeah, boy already already. Um,
Speaker 1: but I was in peaked, as I often am anytime
Speaker 1: somebody just gives me the barest crumb of UFO kind
Speaker 1: of corroboration. But apparently there's gonna be interagency like reports
Speaker 1: of like communications between agencies. He's saying that's gonna be
Speaker 1: significant because there are like what we have right now
Speaker 1: are like a single video where somebody's like, wow, would
Speaker 1: you look at that? But there's a lot of examples
Speaker 1: where these things are corroborated, and the thing that's corroborated
Speaker 1: is doing something that isn't possible given current technology, like
Speaker 1: breaking the sound barrier without a sonic boom. So like
Speaker 1: the idea of like having multiple sightings that line up
Speaker 1: with one another from different independent sources is always the
Speaker 1: thing I look for anytime there's one of these, is
Speaker 1: that those steel um, those steel plates they were finding,
Speaker 1: Is that what you're referencing video? Wait, what's the steel
Speaker 1: plates thing? Um? Well, so I listen. I grew up
Speaker 1: in the Southwest, but my family landed in New Mexico,
Speaker 1: so whenever I see uf UFO news, it barely registers.
Speaker 1: So I'm just like, yeah, you know, um so, so
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to heavy be paraphrasing this. But there
Speaker 1: were um like ten ft no, maybe it was longer
Speaker 1: than that. They're huge steel plates found in like three
Speaker 1: different locals. Those were art art projects, were art. Right,
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. What is more impressive to you the
Speaker 1: idea that a UFO would you know, put different you know,
Speaker 1: uh silver plates around the world, or that art students
Speaker 1: had global travel. Yeah yeah, to take metal on the
Speaker 1: plane and said, honestly, I'm more impressive. Build local, build local.
Speaker 1: We'll save air flight a air fair money if you
Speaker 1: don't have to bring the obelisk with you. Yeah. The thing, yeah, right,
Speaker 1: your first obelisk is free of the south West. Everybody
Speaker 1: knows that the I mean, I'm also curious, like if
Speaker 1: this is meant to distract us from some other epic
Speaker 1: failing of the government, because I'm sure that would be like, oh,
Speaker 1: ship man, that don't fucking detail, isn't it, Like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we've just passed to Bill's voter suppression bills so severe
Speaker 1: that you won't believe that they came from Joe Biden.
Speaker 1: Well maybe you will. I don't know, uf check that
Speaker 1: out over there. This is one of those examples where
Speaker 1: I think the government and the people inside the government
Speaker 1: are dumber than we like give them credit for. And
Speaker 1: in this case, like every time we like, the more
Speaker 1: candid they become about what is going on with UFOs,
Speaker 1: the more they're like, man, I really want to know.
Speaker 1: This ship is crazy. That's what I thought you were
Speaker 1: supposed to be like in contact with the men in
Speaker 1: black who are like neuralizing us like you, but they're like, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I don't know. What do you think? What do you
Speaker 1: think it is? I can't I can't tell. This is
Speaker 1: like the most partisan measure, you know. Someone was like,
Speaker 1: do you think we get the UFO infoe and Republicans
Speaker 1: and Democrats were like unanimous, yes, yes, right, yeah, please yes,
Speaker 1: alien It's really is gonna be like Independence days. Gonna
Speaker 1: take aliens pulling up for people to figure their ship out.
Speaker 1: They're like, all right, fuck it, I guess so now
Speaker 1: that these being showed up, we are on the same
Speaker 1: team called humanity. M That's that's one way it could go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: or or we say or we say America, buckle the
Speaker 1: funk up because we all got guns over here, and
Speaker 1: we're like, do your worst aliens and in a fucking
Speaker 1: fan of snap. All right, let's let's talk a little
Speaker 1: self care here. I find myself doing this. I think
Speaker 1: a lot of people are finding themselves uh, not getting
Speaker 1: enough sleep, procrastinating, letting things kind of hang over your head,
Speaker 1: and then just like sitting on your phone in bed
Speaker 1: for hours but not knowing that's what's going on. I
Speaker 1: think a lot of us know. Just close your eyes.
Speaker 1: Is this you have you been in the darkness in
Speaker 1: your bed and the only light is the cell phone
Speaker 1: which is glowing on your face, and you're in bed
Speaker 1: being like, why am I still on Narco TikTok? It's
Speaker 1: been three hours and I'm laying down and what the fuck,
Speaker 1: and you're just not going to sleep. There is a
Speaker 1: parent There is a word for this that was like
Speaker 1: a combination of two different studies, but they have now
Speaker 1: they've called it revenge bedtime procrastination. The revenge part comes
Speaker 1: out of a Chinese study, so like the way they
Speaker 1: were labeling it just sort of translates like that, but
Speaker 1: it it makes sense. But the way these experts are
Speaker 1: describing it, revenge bedtime procrastination, they say is common in
Speaker 1: people who feel they don't have control over their time,
Speaker 1: such as those in high stress occupations or parents and
Speaker 1: things like that, and are looking for a way to
Speaker 1: regain some personal time, even if it means staying up
Speaker 1: late because you're like funk, I have shipped to do
Speaker 1: all day. Okay, the one thing I will do is
Speaker 1: again I'll look at Narco TikTok and that will be
Speaker 1: Paula go to sleep. Um. And it says when it
Speaker 1: quote when it comes to the evening, they categorically refused
Speaker 1: to go to bed early at a time they nobile
Speaker 1: suit them best and enable them to get adequate, restorative
Speaker 1: sleep and feel better. Nevertheless, there is a sense of
Speaker 1: retaliation against life, so there's an idea of revenge to
Speaker 1: stay awake and do whatever fills their bucket, and that's
Speaker 1: that is, um like the idea of filling your bucket. Actually,
Speaker 1: I found myself uh staying up to watch movies more
Speaker 1: over the past like month, and I do find myself
Speaker 1: like more refreshed than like having like having art like
Speaker 1: put into my brain is like actually energizes me more
Speaker 1: than uh just going to sleep an hour and a
Speaker 1: half earlier and not having that. I think sometimes so
Speaker 1: you're arguing on behalf of your revenge progression. Yeah wow,
Speaker 1: but but then that might not be it for you.
Speaker 1: If you're actually saying when I wake up restored, then
Speaker 1: I don't think you're suffering in that sense. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: just found myself like being very focused on like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I gotta get to sleep by this time. Uh. And
Speaker 1: and then you know, I started being a little bit
Speaker 1: more lax on that and just like making more of
Speaker 1: an effort to uh once my kids were in bed,
Speaker 1: actually take the time to like watch something that was
Speaker 1: interesting to me or you know, fill that bucket up
Speaker 1: a little bit. And I think it's been overall good thing.
Speaker 1: I do have this eye twitch that you guys, uh
Speaker 1: have probably noticed, uh, and one of my ears is bleeding. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you've only been shaving half of your face. And
Speaker 1: I thought it was a style thing, and now I'm
Speaker 1: just sort of like it's pretty cool. Get yeah alongside
Speaker 1: beard toothpaste. And I was like, all right, Jack, I
Speaker 1: think the movie theory is working. The shave path is
Speaker 1: fully made up, right. Know. The thing they say is
Speaker 1: like if if you're a serial procrastinator or like the
Speaker 1: things the personality types that may affect is like, you're
Speaker 1: you are a serial procrastinator, Um, that's me for sure.
Speaker 1: Or you have issues with self regulation, which they say,
Speaker 1: like are you know you have traits such as like
Speaker 1: impulsivity or being easily distracted. So if you haven't had
Speaker 1: the time to process all of your emotions throughout the day,
Speaker 1: you really just maybe using the end of the day
Speaker 1: to do that, and that sets off this thing of
Speaker 1: like I actually just need to have time to like
Speaker 1: process a lot of ship. But it's manifesting in the
Speaker 1: form of like just scrolling or whatever it is we
Speaker 1: do at the very end of the day that keeps
Speaker 1: us up forever. Yeah, so what do we do? This
Speaker 1: is this is kind of tangential but rather the movie thing.
Speaker 1: I've been lately, I've been pretty I'm knocking on what here. Lately,
Speaker 1: I've been pretty good about going to bed at a
Speaker 1: reasonable time. But I've definitely have phases like what you're
Speaker 1: talking about. But I found that for a long time, um,
Speaker 1: during the pandemic especially, I would just like I would
Speaker 1: saying I watched Gavin and Stacey three times through is
Speaker 1: like I would just watch like the same shows over
Speaker 1: and over again, Like I'd watch Queer Eye again, and
Speaker 1: you know, it's great, I love it. But I have
Speaker 1: found that when I watch like a screener instead and
Speaker 1: take in something new, I feel like I sleep better.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, right then kind of just looking at the
Speaker 1: same wallpaper again. Yeah yeah, like something about you. I
Speaker 1: guess it. Maybe it uses your brain a little more
Speaker 1: to have to take in the new information rather than
Speaker 1: the old. But just like jars, something loose or something, yeah,
Speaker 1: something like that. Yeah, I love the My favorite aspect
Speaker 1: of this study is the idea of like one part
Speaker 1: of your personality taking revenge on another part of your personality,
Speaker 1: because I think that's I mean, that's so yeah. But
Speaker 1: it's also like there is a lot of psychological research
Speaker 1: that you know says it is helpful to just think
Speaker 1: of yourself as having multiple people inside of you and
Speaker 1: they're not obviously like it's not like this one is
Speaker 1: named gin and she is the one who smokes, but
Speaker 1: like just you know the wait, no, I want to
Speaker 1: do this, tell me more about that will also help
Speaker 1: me deal with my anxiety. So there's like anxious Charlie,
Speaker 1: and then there's just like not anxious Charlie. At first
Speaker 1: you gotta shave half your face right right exactly, and
Speaker 1: then you want you want anxious happy normal. Yeah, I've
Speaker 1: read it in the context of like addiction, and you know,
Speaker 1: people who are making decisions in the short term that
Speaker 1: they know are like harmful to the later version of themselves.
Speaker 1: And there's that ends up almost like branching off into
Speaker 1: two different versions of the self. Um. But uh, and
Speaker 1: then yes, you do have to shape like make one
Speaker 1: half of your face one of those people. Just let
Speaker 1: people know you literally contain multitudes where the most mismatched outfits. Yeah,
Speaker 1: half a button down and half a tanked up red sox, sir,
Speaker 1: was this guy? Yeah? Oh wow, good point. Um. But
Speaker 1: the a lot of the experts are saying you know,
Speaker 1: the one of the best things in general sleep procrastinator
Speaker 1: or not is to do something. Is the power down
Speaker 1: hour of breaking up the last hour of your day
Speaker 1: into three twenty minutes segments. The first twenty are dedicated
Speaker 1: to things that need to be done. If you have
Speaker 1: any loose ends, then need with some emails or whatever,
Speaker 1: you have twenty minutes to do any real ship get
Speaker 1: that done. The next twenty minutes for hygiene, so they say,
Speaker 1: such as a hot bath, just something to relax you
Speaker 1: just kind of probably bring your attention to your body
Speaker 1: again on some level. And then the final twenty minutes
Speaker 1: are for relaxation, so meditation, prayer, journaling, you know, whatever
Speaker 1: that is. Do something like that just to kind of
Speaker 1: bring your your energetic level down and be a little
Speaker 1: more inward. I define, I can't agree more with the
Speaker 1: hot shower bath thing. That's like my go to um
Speaker 1: because it's just it. Whenever i've you know, we back
Speaker 1: when you used to travel for work and you'd be
Speaker 1: in an unfamiliar hotel room or something, I have trouble
Speaker 1: sleeping and then you're thinking, like, shoot, I gotta be
Speaker 1: up in like six hours to do this other fun
Speaker 1: and then you did really wash these sheets, right, and
Speaker 1: then you're like fuck it, I'm sucking on them anyway. Um,
Speaker 1: then you take a hot shower just to really get that,
Speaker 1: just to really settle your body down, and then getting
Speaker 1: in bed. It makes it so much easier for me
Speaker 1: to sleep. So it's also like a bath. Cultures like
Speaker 1: like a Japan, Turkey, Finland, like those kind of places
Speaker 1: like baths at the end of the day are very normal,
Speaker 1: And I think there's another like inbuilt way to begin
Speaker 1: your relaxation. Mm hmm. I really like this everything about
Speaker 1: this that especially like I do feel like the first
Speaker 1: the part that I when I'm thinking about like things
Speaker 1: like self care routines, I often will leave out the
Speaker 1: first step, which is take care of the things that
Speaker 1: are going to be like hanging over your head that
Speaker 1: is going to like take up so much energy. Uh,
Speaker 1: and you're gonna like let it. You're just gonna give
Speaker 1: so much energy to like that task, whereas you could
Speaker 1: just like knock it out. It's like an email that
Speaker 1: you'll knock out in five minutes, and also like limiting
Speaker 1: that to twenty minutes, so you have twenty minutes get
Speaker 1: that ship done and forget about it. Uh, that's the
Speaker 1: part that I always forget and then just let these
Speaker 1: like things that are hanging over my head and wake
Speaker 1: up being like, funk, I didn't write that email right now?
Speaker 1: Would be weird. If I write it at two thirty
Speaker 1: in the morning, I'll wait and then you're like a
Speaker 1: damn But it's like the days already started and the
Speaker 1: first thing on my mind. But I've been having with
Speaker 1: sleep all the time is like waking up really early,
Speaker 1: like five thirty in the morning, and being like fuck
Speaker 1: uh and then being like, I'm not gonna be able
Speaker 1: to fall back asleep? Should I just get up? And
Speaker 1: I'll be like, I'll think five minutes has gone by,
Speaker 1: and then I'll look at the clock and it's like nine,
Speaker 1: and I fall back asleep and didn't know it right
Speaker 1: right right, right? Yeah? Yeah? Getting this ship done is key. Though.
Speaker 1: You know a tip to anybody when you have ship
Speaker 1: that you have to do just right. I'm not joking this.
Speaker 1: It's the most like fucking overused tip. But write it
Speaker 1: down on a list. The act of crossing something off,
Speaker 1: even as being like right that email, it will lift
Speaker 1: a tremendous weight off of your subconscious If you know,
Speaker 1: even the physical act of being like, ye did that,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And and then you can
Speaker 1: make it easy. You've got three things like if you're
Speaker 1: doing these twenty minutes, like even just right out those
Speaker 1: three things that are on your mind that you don't
Speaker 1: have to get done, just do it and go boom. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's so much. It's powerful, baby, Get you a post
Speaker 1: it note. My to do list will have these like
Speaker 1: uh if I let them, if I don't, like think
Speaker 1: about it, they'll have like these very like vague, huge
Speaker 1: things that I need to get done, like on them exactly.
Speaker 1: It's like a dress relationship with with father. Okay, figuring
Speaker 1: that I'll probably knock that out tomorrow, a different version
Speaker 1: of me. We'll knock that out tomorrow. I have reckoning
Speaker 1: with childhood trauma of divorce as it relates to her
Speaker 1: problems with commitment. Knock that out in twenty minutes at
Speaker 1: the end of the r and reckon. All right, that's
Speaker 1: gonna do it for this week's Weekly Zeite. Guys, please
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